td2-build-advice

[hybrid leaf]

Salvo vs normal UA holster...?

[solar sable]

for what?

[hybrid leaf]

in-general

[soft crane]

Salvo gives 5% rate of fire

[hybrid leaf]

Ah

I find it surprising people would rather run salvo + equalizer + 4pc striker

salvo really worth more than an exotic..?

[long dove]

is there any difference between MK46 and m249b? why ppl keep recommending mk46?

[smoky latch]

It has a minimal better stability. But that's it

[primal storm]

hi all ,what do you think prefect strained lmg ?

[weak quail]

Better fire rate is good and more assault rifle damage with 2 UA pieces i guess

[soft crane]

Negev

Assuming you're running it with Striker.

[primal storm]

no ts

[subtle bluff]

It sit in a weird spot. The talent strain on TS in general isn't much of a increase of DPS vs other talents due to over stacking CHD from TS.
The weapon is slow RPM so it's not good on striker so really the only other builds that would well with it is CoCo and ND.

[mint musk]

what talent are most shotgun user often use? say in striker or refactor bu ilds?

[patent fossil]

Brazen is the usual top dps option, pummel when you want to trade a bit of damage for no reload

[mint musk]

thank you, yeah I can see why brazen can be a good choice

[muted ridge]

What % of CHD should I start to think about other stats? When does it hit the DR wall?

[patent fossil]

Diminishing returns starts from 2% and scales linearly as it increases, there isn't really a 'wall'. You just have to compare alternatives and use different stats when they net you a larger overall gain

The builds in the pinned spreadsheet are generally already optimised so that's a good place to start

[muted ridge]

Yeh "wall" wasnt the best word. I was think more like the zone where its just pointless adding more

I know there is no exact figure

[patent fossil]

More damage is never pointless, it's always a trade off between options

[hazy steeple]

Just a small heads up: DR is more commonly used for "damage reduction", so you might get people be a little confused for "diminishing returns" instead.
Okay carry on!

[patent fossil]

Builds that go heavy on chd (eg backfire, tipping scales,, umbra) can easily have >200% chd, but that's more than you'd put on a high end crit build because you have other opportunities in those ones.
Meanwhile a striker build will maybe only have 120-180 (depending on proto)

[muted ridge]

Rightio, thanks very much!

[subtle bluff]

TS just make a LOT of CHD so at 250% CHD at full stacks not including the build it's already hit DR vs other stats.

It's a game a numbers. Just making one number really big isn't gonna make the end amount bigger vs making all the numbers bigger.

[long dove]

thank u

[clever hare]

Between these two what do you guys think would be the better setup, the two piece unit alloys with strikers or would overdogs and equalizer be better

[solar sable]

overdogs

[soft crane]

Overdogs with Equalizer

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs

GEEEZ guys....

[clever hare]

guess overdogs it is then 😭

thanks guys

[subtle bluff]

It's very powerful.

[soft crane]

Calm down sir.

[subtle bluff]

I am calm....

No one saying overdogs is hard to use......

[stone python]

What do you think of this build I saw on the interwebs.

[silent storm]

I feel like Ongoing Directive is a bit weak. I don't like it over my Striker or TS builds

If you want to play it though I love the buff it gives me

[stone python]

Yeah I'm going to try this build once I come back home from work

[patent fossil]

It's decent for most non escalation content, good damage without needing to stack and functionally infinite ammo makes it handy with directives

Just avoiding taking it against marauders or similarly super-tanky enemies

[gray whale]

I need help, I’m kinda new and idk if my build is good or not

[patent fossil]

Eh, not especially. Core strength is mostly a pvp set, in pve most people go for pure damage. There's a spreadsheet linked in the pins with a lot of good build guides.

[solar sable]

also read the Lvl40 Starters Guide

[subtle bluff]

It's we have a very detailed guide in the build hub for it.

[cloud sluice]

Finally got my Birdie's after 11 months on the game, Just wondering what gearset and skills to pair it with? 🤔

[solar sable]

Birdies is used as a hotswap item, not really something to build around it

[cloud sluice]

It's more for escalation tbh

[solar sable]

as I said, a hotswap item

not tied to anything in specific as a DPS can hotswap to it even

[patent fossil]

Usually the healer does in practice though

[solar sable]

tru

[subtle bluff]

It's in some sense group depended.

If you have a decent group that can OC them or you can help OC them with BTSU you can also help debuff a lot.

If you're team isn't great at it well ya you just throw on birdies

[cloud sluice]

Have a utility build already with BTSU gloves so trying to put together my first healer build and team strength on escalations is always hit and miss with randoms tbh

[subtle bluff]

"team strength"???

The difference between a support builds and gameplay can be huge.

[soft crane]

Core strength

[subtle bluff]

oh.....

[hazy steeple]

That's an odd way of saying it.

[subtle bluff]

Gonna leave this here.

[cinder sail]

Finally gathered a full set of striker, is it better to max out each piece with wep damage / critical hit damage / critical hit chance, or should I focus on maxing out the chest for health and armor and keep the rest as mentioned before

[soft crane]

chest for health and armor?

[cinder sail]

Attributes, so I also have a bonus to health and armor

Instead of only focussing on damage output

[subtle bluff]

Slow down.. Bonus to what?

[cinder sail]

Overall health and armor 😅

[subtle bluff]

Armor and Health are different.

But making more of it will hold you back in the end.

[cinder sail]

What I mean is, having the chest piece with core attribute maxed armor, attribute either armor regen or health

[cloud sluice]

Thanks I'll try it out 👍

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages either the starter guide there or Build Hub there are guides in there.

[cinder sail]

So you also have a decent amount of total armor, instead of only focussing on damage only, I’ve seen quit a few people with builds with some blue core gears mixed in

[cinder sail]

Thank you

Yeah I have no clue what’s all shown in that build, just playing this game for a week now

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages. like I said.

[soft crane]

Didnt I give you the level 40 starter guide? If not, here, read it.
Level 40 Starter Guide

[cinder sail]

Yes that’s what I’m focusing on, but I was just asking for a opinion about if having a chest gear with blue cores is more beneficial 😅

[woeful chasm]

No

[cinder sail]

Thanks

[soft crane]

No and theres an explanation for that. In short, kill your enemies first before they kill you.

Billions must run 6 Red Cores now!!!

[cinder sail]

This link explains that pretty good, thx

[heady terrace]

when in doubt: pistol whip em!

wow thats a horrible image lmao

[surreal elk]

is scorpio kinda useless on escalation if i dont wear the setup as a heal?

[flint arch]

the brief CC and damage buffs is still good

[surreal elk]

the damage buff is only on 9th shot though no?

i recently found myself in a scenario where i needed to switch to birdie and scorpio didnt feel so well without the setup

[flint arch]

enemies take a pretty long time to die in escal anyway, and you won't get much aggro if you shoot them compared to the dps players

also if there's a chunga powerwalking towards your group

[heady terrace]

still a wip, but this is what i have currently

no longer have the cute sakura background, white house is so boring now :(

[plush pike]

what builds can be made with the core strength set?

cus it looks like the only use it has is being paired with the ninja bike backpack

the core strength backpack only provides the same buff that ninja does but ninja does it better

[fierce ether]

Guys lexi+measured+salvo or lexi+optimist+overdogs

[subtle bluff]

optimist 👎

overdogs 👍

[fierce ether]

Well and if i want to bring overdogs? Better killer for solo and measured for group?

Maybe equalizer+overdogs is better than equalizer+salvo in overall

[fierce ether]

And where can i see mods and rolls of these items?

And weapons?

[subtle bluff]

weapon is w/e +790 rpm

[fierce ether]

W/e?

[subtle bluff]

everything else is just the standard chc/chd

Like mentioned above there a guide if you really want that all

[fierce ether]

Where, ping message?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages

or scroll up there have been links posted

[plush pike]

whoever it was that said use vigilance for hotshot is just dumb

the damage buff in negligable

[subtle bluff]

oh ya?

It's mainly for you first/cold shot

[plush pike]

yeah it doesnt do much

i still need to kill a red guy for the oneshot

[plush pike]

purples still live

[subtle bluff]

What's your build then?

Also scaling matter... So..

[plush pike]

mask holster knee and gloves hotshot

[subtle bluff]

What weapon you're using and you build matters too.

[plush pike]

backpack is WH&K with vigilance
chest is airaldi with headhunter

my mmr is the white death

[subtle bluff]

To note with that clip it's a bad build but it is showing what having Vig and not.

[plush pike]

yeah you also have proto stuff i dont

[subtle bluff]

You have that mixed up. Chainkiller and Airaldi BP.

That clip is like 2 years old

[plush pike]

havent got either of those at all

[subtle bluff]

No proto.

Wow.. did you not read.....

[plush pike]

i replied to your chainkiller and bp but ok

[subtle bluff]

That the general build you should have.

[plush pike]

yeah ik

[subtle bluff]

You didn't directly reponse so I would I know anyways.

What "purple" scaling content were you shooting at?

[plush pike]

holy english

[subtle bluff]

I haven't slept yet so my english and typing is all over

and on a phone makes it worse. my bad

[plush pike]

a black tusk assault

[subtle bluff]

Retal? Heroic? 4 man?

[plush pike]

heroic stronghold

[subtle bluff]

solo or?

[plush pike]

solo

[gentle lichen]

If you really wanna score the 1st shot on any veterancy except named you can use nemesis for the first shot

[plush pike]

ive been sat in matchmaking for about 30 mins

[subtle bluff]

He doesn't have overdogs too.

[plush pike]

yeah i spent the past 3 days grinding journey quests 1-7n for exotic caches

[subtle bluff]

HH builds do require at least amount of the build correct for it to work.

[plush pike]

didnt get anything

[subtle bluff]

You don't need nemesis.

[gentle lichen]

I'd appreciate an image of the build

[subtle bluff]

This with 4pc hotshot

[plush pike]

and the white death mmr

[gentle lichen]

All hsd rolled with near 15% wd on all? With white death on dtoc? If so then it should easily take out a purple

[plush pike]

can we stop abbrieviating

i do not know half of these

[subtle bluff]

ask. learn now. it's easier for everyone in the end.

WD (weapon dmg)
HSD (Headshot dmg)

[plush pike]

wtf is dtoc?

[subtle bluff]

DTTooC (Dmg to target out of cover)
Thesse are in the guides.

[normal shadow]

"All headshot damage rolled with near 15% weapon damage on all? With White Death on damage to opponent out of cover? --"

[plush pike]

i have 3 items that have maxed weapon damage

i cant put damage out of cover on the white death because i recalibrated the talent

[subtle bluff]

You're missing 10% of your overall dmg without that

Here what the build shows to you should be able to do. Note I am using a lot less dmg weapon.

[plush pike]

i know how its meant to work

i have tasted that power

[subtle bluff]

The correct stats and build help a lot.

[plush pike]

yeah if i can get the drops afterall

[subtle bluff]

You can see I have no exp, proto nor it's full optimize.

It's part of the game. It's not that bad with TL (Targeted Loot)

[patent fossil]

Did some maths on the synesthesia augment out of curiosity, and it doesn't seem great. At max (7 pieces all max level), when hitting 850 rpm (and that's actually hitting enemies throughout the minute, not counting misses or time spent not firing), it can almost half your cooldowns (~51s average cooldown reduction over the minute). Not really worth the investment imo, even on a skill build.

[plush pike]

tried getting chainkiller on the summit couldn't even after 2 hours

[subtle bluff]

You don't have the pass to do Countdown?

[plush pike]

dont think so

i dont even have the NY dlc's

[subtle bluff]

IDK how PS and xbox work, can you play online?

[plush pike]

yeah i can

[subtle bluff]

Countdown.

If you do not know what that is go to Pinned Messages and read the starter guide it's a farming guide too.

[plush pike]

its just PS players arent very cooperative in my experience

[subtle bluff]

To get to the pinned on mobile tap the channel then go to tab for it

Read the guide... It doesn't matter.

[gentle lichen]

You just haven't met the right ps player

[plush pike]

i read the guide

[weak quail]

Challenging countdown is fine never bothered heroic

[plush pike]

a few days ago

i found countdown

lets see if i can get chainkiller

[frosty rivet]

Heroic countdown is mainly for weird freaky people

[gentle lichen]

Woah what's with the tone

[subtle bluff]

I use to use it to check my builds. Just DPS everything.

Hell you can DPS check a your escalation build due to out CD heroic are I mean there not that tanky but enough for you to learn the basics of escalation ads.

[flint arch]

the best way to test a build is to bring it into t10 escalation and see if it works. therefore all builds suck because i die instantly in the first room

/j

[subtle bluff]

I didn't ask you. I'm going to sleep now.

[flint arch]

why so blunt sir

🥹

[plush pike]

yippee i have chainkiller

now i need the backpack
the gloves idont care about rn
ill get those when i get them

[exotic talon]

why is it so hard to find a chc chd badger tuff backpack

im not even hung up on the talent i just want the shotgun damage

[fierce ether]

For mk46 what are the best attachments? Large pouch/c79 scope (3.4x) vertical grip or angled grip and omega 5.56 rifle suppressor?

[gentle lichen]

Wanna roll it to red?

[soft crane]

Depends on your current stats.

[patent fossil]

First minor stat on a gear piece is weighted towards being the same colour as the core, so you'll get more blue stats than red

[fierce ether]

I am bringing it as secondary for now, so it is irrelevant

[exotic talon]

yeah, ideally it would have creeping death to replace the hunter's fury bp (and make ridgeway's pride stronger)
but im fine with anything i just want red chc chd

[gentle lichen]

Creeping death? Ridgeway's??

[exotic talon]

it makes you apply bleed on hit, which gives you armor repair
scales with amount of bleeding enemies in range

and regular creeping death's range is just 2m less than what you get from hf bp and 3m more than default for the disorient on kill
so it would be very funny with shotguns if it works as i expect it to

[summer totem]

Need

[mint axle]

Badge tuff is a factory armor piece so naturally will come with more blue attributes than yellow or red on its RNG.

[exotic talon]

it wasnt an actual question im just whining

[silent storm]

Are you getting that for Refactor?

Because if so you can skip the need for SH/SD and yellow core and just try to find one with CHC and put SD and use it as the red piece in a Capacitor build. Also with proto Refactor you can have 2 red cores now and it is so nice to have higher WD

[sage ferry]

I have a six piece striker set any ideas on what i should change my chess piece and mask with i prefer having six red core primary and six blue core secondary set blue course secondary?

[stark marsh]

so i want to make sure i'm understanding the new sets - has anyone done a quick rundown of how core strength works? has it made its way into any meaningful sets?

[surreal elk]

what recombinant are you guys wearing for striker for escalations? The headshot one?

[vernal wing]

There’s a new magazine one. Those are like the only options. Weapon handing isn’t horrible if you’re using LMG

[shy willow]

The set itself isn't good enough to justify running over other stuff that will get the job done better

[stark marsh]

yea, it didn't seem outright worth replacing anything with, but wanted to make sure I didn't overlook anything

[lament reef]

I guess it’s a pretty good super comfy set for Challenging and below but that’s not where the interesting content is

[north tree]

Hi guys, I saw the pinned build for strikers, I just want to know if its possible to replace the Overdog gloves with anything else since I don't have a habit of aiming for the lowest ranked

[amber mortar]

They are still good even if you don’t actively do that.

[north tree]

I see, thank you!

I'm currently running 4 piece set striker with coyote mask and GS chest, so... should I swtch it out?

[shy willow]

Swap coyote for overdogs

[north tree]

Even if I will not be able to use the passive for Overdogs?

[shy willow]

Even if you only have the talent up half of the time you're still averaging 15 percent amped damage

[north tree]

Hmm... I usually play solo and this is my current build

[onyx cypress]

I wanna try something different can I get assistance with a oxpecker build

[unique bison]

Quick question, how would i go about getting sadist? I heard just run summit, targeted loot for lmg and hope u find it already on the lmg talent

[livid sorrel]

well they fixed the increased shield damage with the assault ge

[livid sorrel]

countdown and retaliations have more drops

[unique bison]

Thank you

[onyx cypress]

Ok fire so what just spec into skill?

[livid sorrel]

I'd go damage. You're already losing damage using oxpecker

[surreal elk]

do yu think you could share?

[onyx cypress]

Your absolutely right and that's why I wanna see how far I can take this build

[livid sorrel]

Just stick it in a HF techtank honestly

[high dagger]

If I'm already hitting 56/120 on crit, should I add grupo or fenris/sokolov would be better?

I'm way pass 120% on crit dmg, but I think it's a good basepoint

what's the soft cap for CHD?

[livid sorrel]

there's none, it's just diminishing returns

[high dagger]

So I should go fenris/sokolov?

[shy willow]

Build looks fine how it is

But in content with softer targets I wouldn't use the striker chest

[high dagger]

oh yeah, this is my most recent escal build. For retal I would swap the chest

[dusk edge]

should i stick with Lex / Stack Broker or is it alright to use Scorpio? i've read that it got nerfed? i've been rocking shotgun so far and it's great... just that the fire rate is pretty inconsistent

[livid sorrel]

scorpio is for support

[vernal wing]

What do you mean? It’s just at the recombination bench

[summer totem]

Hardwired

[shy willow]

It used to be a go to for DPS also but them days are gone

[dusk edge]

ah. not recommended for solo?

[drifting cargo]

why theres backfire on striker build ? that weapon seems chips away my armor slowly , sorry for the noob question

[dusk edge]

that's the weapon's talent

[vernal wing]

If you triple reload it disables the bleed

[livid sorrel]

It bleeds you in exchange for loads of crit damage

[livid sorrel]

nope

[dusk edge]

it scales with HP/armor

[dusk edge]

ah. figures. i'll stick with Stack Broker with back and forth

oh also. since i play solo, would it be better to use the drone instead of the pulse? outside of harder endgame modes ofc

just some more firepower and distraction

[magic pilot]

Personal preference

I run decoy/emp sticky 99% of the time

[dusk edge]

yeah. i'll go with the drone. best guy for clearing out those goddamn turrets

they never changed the way how turrets worked after Mutiny and now for some reason they can still snipe from like, half a football field away

[vernal wing]

@hazy steeple

@pearl atlas

[pearl atlas]

[dusky jetty]

do these do anything for the sweet dreams/lullaby? Assuming not

[ocean wyvern]

I don't think so, but it could be a neat science experiment

[dusky jetty]

yeah I was curious haha

[exotic talon]

no and frankly theyre useless unless you want to do some shenanigans with lady death and bloody knuckles

[lament reef]

Actually, isn’t lullaby capped? Does 100 million and not infinite damage?

[dusky jetty]

ahhh that'd make sense

[exotic talon]

lullaby does the max hp of its target as melee damage if red or purple bar

[ocean wyvern]

Haven't there been occasions where it doesn't 1 shot on like T9-T10?

[exotic talon]

thats where the cap comes in, i havent seen it myself but its probably real

its not an instant kill is what i meant, just does enough damage to become one

[hybrid pelican]

Yeah especially with dmg reduction npcs.. it only does like 1/3 of their health. The cap is around 100 mil yeah

[storm cove]

100 mil is boosted by amps like overdogs and t10 drs make it about 38 million a punch

still a red bar is oneshot through dr

[violet surge]

I missed the last few seasons - ended with a pretty top rolled Tipping Scale Bluescreen build - Hard was pretty easy, Challenging could be a mess at times but nothing not manageable. I like this play style of supress, while stacking dmg on other targets. Any build advise to continue this playstyle but up it up a bit?

[smoky latch]

Show your build and we can suggest improvement

[ocean wyvern]

Honestly ^

[violet surge]

sadly im at work at the moment but wanted to jump back in for this season

[smoky latch]

Then send it after work, this channel is not running away

[violet surge]

Should have thought about that - was hoping for a "yea, check out this build" lol

[smoky latch]

You can get that too if you want

[violet surge]

hell, maybe i need to get out of my own head - if you have some LMG build recommendations, let me have em! I have a lot of gear ive farmed

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1ugLqss8pj3jv-dSE1KUIHI1HGMfkCVBYb0LGpEiLXUY/edit?usp=drivesdk

Kinda meta

[magic pilot]

Yea that's solid

[ocean wyvern]

If the TS playstyle works for you, it's a good enough build to take into endgame

[smoky latch]

Guide for it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gvv20WAX-qDLNqLj8qQCQjBbQxjz4A0OrzBBYL3hRoc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[violet surge]

awesome, ty. I think I was last using 3p TS with Ninja Backpack and 2P Lengmo

and a Bluescreen primary

but yea, this looks great! ty!

[smoky latch]

NBB isn't a good choice in PvE, FYI

[ocean wyvern]

I think writing one of the editorial documents about NBB would be a good resource

[onyx sage]

we also don't want to write too much

[buoyant perch]

Good thing I don't read

[little sun]

I need someone’s help is it possible to make a core strength ravenous build with investor mask and still get some armour regen and good damage?

[buoyant perch]

Investor mask alone is 3% armor regen. Core strength doesn't have good damage for pve though.

[little sun]

So what type of build would have high armour and some good dps and with the decent armour regen?

I can’t find any on YouTube so I came here

[smoky latch]

Ravenous isn't really meant as a main weapon. It comes in handy situationally

[onyx sage]

striker with memento

[violet surge]

NBB is a trap eh? This is why I failed stats

[onyx sage]

backpack talent is a lot stronger than brand set bonuses

[gray radish]

any tips for the escalation build? havent try it yet on escalation mode but it look pretty good for a first time.

[magic pilot]

Looks fine for tier ~5, I'd swap to mk46 for higher tiers because the time to empty is faster

[tepid mantle]

i got a question atm i got this chestpiece would it be better to use a yellow equalizer or stay with this one because of the stats and also is it possible to get a petrov equalizer chest

[lone wadi]

equalizer

[onyx sage]

1. you can use either
2. equalizer is from Unit Alloys brand, so never

[tepid mantle]

okay so equalizer would be better ?

dmg wise

[onyx sage]

also your chest has focus, not obliterate, equalizer is perfect obliterate

[lone wadi]

its gonna be more comfy to use than focus

[formal wharf]

Best skill build ?

[tepid mantle]

yeah i know the skill is shit one mine i just use it because i of the good stats(proto)

and the 10% lmg dmg

[onyx sage]

the talent matters more than the stats

if you know how to use focus then sure but it is really hard to use correctly

[formal wharf]

Anyone know best skill build gear i need ?

[hybrid pelican]

For what skills, what content - gotta be a little more specific

[vernal wing]

Refactor Striker Drone/Assault Turret is kinda the default setup

Capacitor Exotic Assault Rifle
Kinetic Momentum Chest
the Named “Force Multiplier” backpack

[cloud sluice]

Is there a chest piece with perfect empathetic resolve? 🤔

[solar sable]

nope

[cloud sluice]

Ok thanks 👍

[keen plank]

What about perfect reassigned

[solar sable]

same

[onyx sage]

we NEED perfect reassigned

[keen plank]

Hell yeah we do

[onyx sage]

best chest talent ever

[hybrid pelican]

If i get that I will reassign my life to death

[onyx sage]

give the people what they want

[alpine wigeon]

Is the GR9 w/Frenzy BiS DPS for Tipping Scales?

[solar sable]

I would say no due to not emptying the mag fast enough to make Frenzy worth it

[hybrid pelican]

mk46 better

[smoky latch]

When Frenzy is up GR9 > MK46

[weary cliff]

Does Dev know there is a player by the name of Akymp manage to find a bug that allows him to kill agents in no gun zone (safe house , White House …)

[smoky latch]

Probably not if you or anyone for that matter won't report it with video clips via Ubisoft support ticket

Also this channel is for build advice :p

[solar sable]

Division players don't know how to read

[stone python]

Is that a Ceska Backpack there?

[smoky latch]

Si

[stone python]

Gracias

i think i ll farm proto ceska backpack then

[smoky latch]

Good luck finding that one - almost a unicorn since you cannot recalibrate anything

[upper rover]

Is HF shotgun build something? Or did they make any other shotgun build

Or was HF only smgs

[smoky latch]

https://buildstation.app/

If you're not ingame to be able checking yourself you can use this site which is updated regularly

[magic pilot]

GR9 can sync frenzy with time to empty

Mk46 is just faster which is nice for T6 escalation

[upper rover]

I remembered well then

[magic pilot]

HF shotgun is my favorite build

[upper rover]

I never used HF for shotgun only for smgs part ngl

[solar sable]

even with TS mag size?

[magic pilot]

I think you can get it to work, haven't played with frenzy TS

[smoky latch]

TS would add too much I think

[solar sable]

plus gunner

[smoky latch]

Maybe with 5% RoF mag mod and Salvo; just a thought, haven't tried

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

[magic pilot]

Rof attribute is an option as well since you have a ton of crit already

[smoky latch]

I usually have 20% reload speed selected

[upper rover]

That exotic shotgun looks fun

[magic pilot]

It's alright, m870 is much better for headhunting though

[smoky latch]

But I don't use GR9 with TS so I'm just throwing ideas

[magic pilot]

I wish the handling buffed the spread while moving

[magic pilot]

@pearl atlas

[pearl atlas]

[subtle bluff]

Oro??

[lone violet]

Sweet dreams is a open world drop? Would it be better to get it off a retal or countdown?

[subtle bluff]

It is in the general loot pool.
TL will be easier or doing retal for TL and also a chance at a Blueprint.

[lone violet]

Yeah cause I don’t feel like doing count down 😭

[subtle bluff]

It’s just the quicker way of farming and also getting exo at the same time.

Things I need to do make different builds but just can’t be brother with it all.

[alpine wigeon]

Is it still good to run St. Elmo's in T10 Escalation or should I switch it out for something else? If so, what?

[vernal wing]

It’s less damage than a Lexington, but the bigger mag and shock rounds make it passable.

You definitely want at least 1 LMG (preferable a Proto one with Frenzy)
Could run Big Alejandro or Iron Lung as wel

[alpine wigeon]

Alright, I'm just stuck on which LMG to use.

[vernal wing]

High end or Exotic?

[alpine wigeon]

High end

[subtle bluff]

+T8 is pretty stuck to a meta build otherwise you're not gonna contribute enough

[alpine wigeon]

Striker's?

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

[alpine wigeon]

Well I guess I'm already good then.

Is the Lexington really "better" than the St. Elmo's though, or is it just preferrence?

[patent fossil]

With a decent damage talent it has more damage, but misses out on the larger mag and shock rounds

[subtle bluff]

Burst wise and when proto and gets either DTH or DTTooC even more.

[alpine wigeon]

What talent? (For T10)

[subtle bluff]

At that point you’re wanting to burst if you’re using an AR.

[subtle bluff]

All in the striker guide there’s a section.

[alpine wigeon]

Yeah I know, I just wanted to know people's personal preferences.

[subtle bluff]

Again.. it’s more of meta than preference

At T10 there not much wiggle room.

[alpine wigeon]

Well then what is the talent?

The spreadsheet lists multiples.

[subtle bluff]

Ranger, measured or Back n Forth

It lists tho.

[dawn perch]

okay i have really stupid idea that need some testing. is it possible to make striker/TS build but you can compensate for the 1 skill tier you maybe running?

[magic pilot]

Just run technician

[dawn perch]

that not what i mean. I am not trying to get 1 skill tier

[subtle bluff]

Why.. specially when we have the modifier for OC

[dawn perch]

the one skill tier is not for any honest. I trying figure if I can run a dps with one piece of equipment mismatch as that piece maybe providing some utility outside of dps. But for dps it will be a dead piece. dps will be lower but would that be too much

[subtle bluff]

For what content?

[dawn perch]

Heroic - legendary - and maybe up to escalation 5. After that tier I am pretty sure everyone is screwed anyways.

[strong cave]

I mean you can run an extra skill tier if you want but skills don't start actively benefiting from tiers until around tier 3. Even if you ran tech and took an extra skill tier, it's still 2 tiers assuming no other skill cores are on the build. You may as well go full red and run tier 0 skills

They're still just as strong

Trying to be DPS but also try to squeeze utility usage is only going to ruin the build

[subtle bluff]

This is why there are suggests for using Elmo, Iron Lung and Bluescreen it does take dmg off the top but you get some other benefits.

[lunar tiger]

is the mk46 or gr9 best in slot for frenzy striker?

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the content.

On paper it’s GR9, in actually depending on the situation it can be on or another.

[lunar tiger]

just for mid to high tier escalations. i have a gr9 but i've heard people recommend the mk46 and im not sure where to find base stats

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages Gearsheet

[lunar tiger]

i think people prefer mag size on the mk46 cause the gr9 has 200 base and that feels like too much sometimes

oh perfect

[subtle bluff]

The reasoning for +T6 escalation mk46/m249 is because of hotfoot. You don’t get to just sit and shoot so mk46 higher RPM and slightly smaller mag allows for breathing room.

[lunar tiger]

ah i see. i only knew about the smaller mag size and watching people run the mk46 it looks like their frenzy has more uptime since it does time out with my 200 round gr9 sometimes and it's just a little annoying

[sterile chasm]

May be a silly question but what's a good sidearm for a Striker build or in general? I've just been using the one that comes with the specialization currently equipped.

[alpine wigeon]

Why aren't more people running Streamline on their Lexington? Especially for T9-10 Escalation.

[lone wadi]

because they need to use decoy

[strong cave]

Because as soon as any one of your skills goes on cooldown, your talent is inactive

[lone wadi]

streamline is a pretty baity talent

[strong cave]

And if any skill is active it goes inactive. It's a bad talent for escalation

[alpine wigeon]

I feel like you don't really NEED skills using Strikers.

[lone wadi]

yes you do

if youre not using skills youre throwing

[alpine wigeon]

Even the Revive Hive can just be reset using BTSU Gloves.

[strong cave]

Do you need them? Technically no. But does it make it more efficient? Sure

[lone wadi]

90 sec cooldown

plus why are you using a lexington as a primary in t9-10s
half your time is spent reloading

[strong cave]

120 seconds with BTSU actually

[lone wadi]

oh wow so even more

[strong cave]

Yup

[alpine wigeon]

That's just not true when overcharging.

[ocean wyvern]

What would the alternative recommendation be?

[lone wadi]

there is 0 reason not to use decoy to take aggro off you team

[strong cave]

LMGs are the go to because of mag size and sustained DPS. You can use a lex but wouldn't advise it

[lone wadi]

you can use lex as a secondary or a utility weapon there

[strong cave]

So you're telling me there's no 120s cooldown on BTSU? So you're really telling me I can just spam overcharge?

I don't quite think it works that way

[lone wadi]

also you really cant bet on btsu overcharge either

[alpine wigeon]

I'm talking about the Hive cooldown, you're talking about a different thing.

[strong cave]

Hive cooldown with reviver is 180s

[ocean wyvern]

I've been using lex in T5s and I can tell I need something different, I just wasn't sure which way to go on it

[alpine wigeon]

It's not when you overcharge though.

[strong cave]

So every 120s you get overcharge assuming healer, every 180s with no OC proc for reviver. Streamlined is gone for 2 whole minutes. Or 3

[lone wadi]

even putting the hive aside, why would you not want to use decoy so enemies aggro on that instead of you

[strong cave]

Yeah Streamlined isn't it. And you wonder why nobody is using it lmfaoooooo

[alpine wigeon]

Well, yes, obviously if you're getting knocked all the time it loses its value, but I feel like you have other problems if you're getting knocked that much.

[sterile chasm]

Why can't I slot the higher core attribute into my armor? seems I can't for any of them.

[strong cave]

Streamlined really only adds maybe 13% WD (equivalent to barely 1 core of damage). Which is very pitiful

[sudden cloak]

Using streamline over your skills is just bad imo, you get significantly more value from skills than extra what 47% additive dmg?

[strong cave]

You'd be better off taking an LMG, using skills, and taking an entirely different talent

[ocean wyvern]

you've recalibrated it before already it appears, according to the wrenches

[strong cave]

Would make your run a million times smoother

[sterile chasm]

oh... so I can only do once?

[lone wadi]

and to prevent getting knocked you want to use decoy so enemies shoot the decoy instead of you

[sudden cloak]

Yes

[ocean wyvern]

correct, you get 1 recalibration

[tawdry raven]

wooo got my overdogs replacement

[strong cave]

Tier 10 doesn't sound fun with Lexington when you mag dump, reload, mag dump, reload, mag dump, reload and the enemy is only quarter dead. Meanwhile an LMG mag has them half dead

[ocean wyvern]

although you can still optimize the weapon damage, you just need more hyena tactical assessments

[sudden cloak]

Recalibrate once, and optimize as much as you want

[alpine wigeon]

Yeah, I agree, I'm definitely not saying the decoy doesn't have value. I've just ran T10 before and not felt that I NEEDED it for a smooth run.

[ocean wyvern]

I'm not even remotely ready for T10s

[sterile chasm]

AH, that's why the level 40 guide recommends maxed out pieces. So should I just run Countdown until my arms fall off until I get 12% and 6% pieces or how does that work?

[strong cave]

Not needed but if you had them you'd probably clear quicker. Meaning more chances at proto

[alpine wigeon]

Yeah, I won't deny that possibility. Just a different playstyle.

[lone wadi]

by using streamline lex youre also missing a lot of burst and sustain damage compared to frenzy lmg

[pallid spoke]

Past T5 it just becomes a total slog

[strong cave]

I don't knock Streamlined at all. Takes a very specific Playstyle. I used to main it in pvp. Then stopped because skills are too strong and having to refrain felt like a straightjacket to me

[lone wadi]

all the while not being able to use skills

[ocean wyvern]

countdown or retaliations, worry less about specific pieces and moreso for the maxed attributes

[subtle bluff]

more DPS and better mag more dead things quicker.
AR’s with Hollowman with Reds or almost dead things AR is great.

[strong cave]

I personally don't have this problem. I don't play lmfao. Div 2 got uninstalled from my steam deck today. Stays on my PC tho

[subtle bluff]

If it’s a bunch of reds I’ll use my lex to kill them all 75% of the time.

[strong cave]

Beats wasting LMG ammo on squishy people. Makes perfect sense

[subtle bluff]

42 DTH goes WILD!

[sterile chasm]

ah I gotcha, just trying to make a maxed out Striker build. I've been running this one since level 40 now i'm level 60.

[strong cave]

I wouldn't know. The only proto items I have in my possession is an MP7, Tac Mk16, harvest and Handbasket. Yes both have determined on them

[subtle bluff]

I think you mean your SHD 60

[strong cave]

Once you hit level 40, you swap to SHD levels. You're likely at SHD 60

[sterile chasm]

oh yeah, SHD 60 on the watch

[ocean wyvern]

Makes sense, you could farm striker's and try to snag higher rolls while looking for library pieces as well

[subtle bluff]

The guides mentioned to farm striker to build the set then farm up UA or Ceska, a HE pieces due to having talents and 2 minor attributes.

[sudden cloak]

Echo is generally the best roll you want on dps prototype builds right?

[sterile chasm]

Here's what i'm working with currently

[subtle bluff]

I was VERY methodical about how to be being efficient for farming.

[strong cave]

Looks perfect to me

[subtle bluff]

Max out that library.

[strong cave]

Max it out yeah. Other than that build looks fine to me

[subtle bluff]

I should add in farming for talents for weapons.

I’m pretty sure I missed that.

[sterile chasm]

I've been pretty bad with my Library, not been getting them maxed out rolls it seems.

[strong cave]

I personally just crafted my guns and talents when I started a smurf. That's mainly bc I know how to speedrun it

[sudden cloak]

It'll take some time but you'll get it done

[strong cave]

Don't recommend total newbies to do that tho

[subtle bluff]

Max your basic library helps for building in the future. The starter guide is just made to help players not miss anything while level up vs some that only do SHD farming or exp farming when you can get a lot of it done alll together at once

[sterile chasm]

I should library maxed out rolls right?

[subtle bluff]

The important stats

CHC/CHD mainly.

Due that while farming exp out in TL farming

[sterile chasm]

Sorry, TL farming?

oh targeted loot, my bad

I think my move then now is Strikers countdown farming then combing through my loot in my library afterwards > expertise > dismantle

[ocean wyvern]

If you're planning on doing multiple countdown runs, it could be worth alternating striker's and weapon categories for talents and weapon attributes

[sterile chasm]

Wouldn't I want to maximize the armor first then the weapons I wanted for the build or is this to build up my library and not the build in general? I was kinda thinking duel purpose.

[ocean wyvern]

I was approaching from the library, but both will be progress in the direction you're looking for

[sterile chasm]

awesome run so far

so dumb question again, is extraction 1 to 1 or can I now craft 12%'s for all my pieces?

[ocean wyvern]

12% for all masks

[wispy hollow]

Extract from mask, use on all masks, extract from chest, use on all chests etc

[sterile chasm]

so I never need to find another 12% CHD mask for example?

[tepid mantle]

whats better for tipping scales a lmg with frenzy on it or an exotic like big al

[sterile chasm]

or does this go away the next one I craft

[ocean wyvern]

Nope, it stays forever

[ocean wyvern]

Frenzy LMG I believe

[alpine wigeon]

GR9 w/Frenzy or Classic M60 w/Frenzy?

[sterile chasm]

oh that's awesome

[tepid mantle]

yeah atm i got GR9

[ocean wyvern]

I usually see MK46/M249 w/ Frenzy

[tepid mantle]

the problem is i got the perfect gr9 in proto and im not sure if a normal yellow Mk or M249 would be still better

[ocean wyvern]

Keep rocking the GR9 if it's maxed out

[tepid mantle]

with overdogs and equalizer right ?

[ocean wyvern]

Pretty much

Unless you're like me and find overdogs annoying as hell to play around

[vagrant charm]

Ever get any feedback on this?

[tepid mantle]

yeah i hate them atm im playing with tinkerer and a other mg with measured what are you playing ?

[ocean wyvern]

I've got a midrolled proto GR9 with salvo/equalizer

[tepid mantle]

never saw salvo might need to take a look on that

[ocean wyvern]

If you're running Tipping Scales, I wouldn't recommend it, I use it for striker's, on my Tipping Scales I run Contractor's

[tepid mantle]

thats my build atm because i also dont have a good equalizer

[tepid mantle]

yeah i hate striker i wanna stick with ts

[ocean wyvern]

That chest piece is a good spot for gains

[tepid mantle]

so equalizer would be a big diffrence ?

[ocean wyvern]

even a petrov with obliterate would be a big difference

[tepid mantle]

yeah thats the only proto i got sadly

[onyx sage]

you don't need proto

[tepid mantle]

i thought the stats of the proto is better then a good talent

[onyx sage]

i explained earlier lol

[ocean wyvern]

Other way around

[onyx sage]

if you have a useless talent it's worse

[subtle bluff]

There are better choices.

[tepid mantle]

alright gonna change that then thanks

[subtle bluff]

Idk the context.

Oh nvm.

[ocean wyvern]

it's all good

[onyx sage]

if people can do t10 without proto, it's not needed at any level

just make sure you got a good build first before worrying about it

[tepid mantle]

alright thanks guys

equalizer is unit alloys set right or is it better to get a petrov with obliterate because of the 10% lmg dmg

[ocean wyvern]

equalizer is UA yes, I would ultimate go for the equalizer because long term, that's where the build will lead, and it semi-synergizes with TS

[tepid mantle]

alright thanks for the help buddy

[onyx sage]

you have a lot of weapon damage already with prototype, petrov isn't really used unless if you use contractor

[tepid mantle]

alright thanks m8

[foggy heron]

What exotics would u use? I’m running equaliser and memento Tipping scales rn

[ocean wyvern]

memento, tinkerer, or overdogs

[foggy heron]

I’m having the same issue with overdogs and my survivabilty is low

[onyx sage]

use better positioning like using tall cover over short cover, use cover to cover mechanic. in the long run you want to solve your survivability problem with better gameplay

[foggy heron]

That’s not the issue it’s just no armour recovery for multiple targets at once if they decide they want to run at you

[onyx sage]

then that's a damage and positioning issue

if you try to build for more survivability then it makes this problem even worse

[plush cloak]

Not that I saw but I am still very curious. In my own testing, when killer procs, Lex has been better but I kind of suck at keeping stacks up and in general so not a very reliable test

[foggy heron]

I’m used to running 800k armour builds and positioning I’ve played pvp for years at this point. My problem is my only form of recovery being armour kits or my gunner perks. It’s not very efficient for me wanting to play aggressive

[onyx sage]

well in pve you have tactics to use that help you shoot without being shot. i'm just letting you know that it is possible

[fair dragon]

Or use a mortar build

[vagrant charm]

Yeah I am torn also myself and I always love St Elmo's too

[foggy heron]

I know I just like being close. Quick scoping with a hotshot build and bloodsucker is one of my favourite ways to play pve cause sitting a mile back in cover bores me

[onyx sage]

i mean you can also run full red with a regulus if that's more up your alley

[fair dragon]

I dont have an alley

[foggy heron]

I will give it a go. Just returning to the game so trying the new sets out atm tipping scales has made lmgs the most fun than they’ve ever been for me

[onyx sage]

this is the layout. it kept me playing the game forever

[foggy heron]

Nothing has ever beaten hitting a mf for 20 mill damage so I’ll probably enjoy this 🤣

The headshot damage seasonal buff has made it so much worse aswell lmao

[hazy steeple]

Being able to run a determined hotshot setup with basically no HSD rolls is honestly so silly it's amazing.

[foggy heron]

I’ve got it up to 430% HSD with the modifiers on its so fun 🤣

[onyx sage]

the shotgun is honestly the biggest winner in this build. regulus is there for trash mobs but shotgun is the hardest hitter among the 3

[ocean wyvern]

This is a dream idea, but it would be comedic, an exotic sawn-off called the deputy that shoots a slug and has HS damage

Makes me wish the Backup Boomstick was actually good

[hallow arch]

Is there a channel/pinned thing where I can check what target loot is in the escalations?

[silent storm]

Worth keeping?

[ocean wyvern]

in #td2-general-chat pins

[ocean wyvern]

I'm biased, I'd keep it for the meme, but in reality, no

[shy basalt]

If you're solo and you just want to run and gun

Putting on a memento solves your chip issues

It'll give you a bit of burst armor and regen

[foggy heron]

That’s exactly why it’s on my striker and tipping scales builds 🤣

Hard to die on 800k armour when I’m playing 2012 kill confirmed

But thankyou tho

[soft crane]

@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

I saw that post. I very quick to scroll pass a lot of that group.

[soft crane]

Why the hell your chest and holster has blue cores? OD already deal less damage than Striker or Tipping, dont make it worse.

Replace gloves with Overdogs, or mask with Tinkerer. Talent combinations are Sadist and Pressure point if you have those 2 exotics I mentioned.

[solar sable]

I...

I bet that one guy doesn't even know the hierarchy

I BET NO ONE IN FACEBOOK KNOWS SHIT

[soft crane]

A lot of people doesnt seem to know either in the comment section.

[subtle bluff]

I should start posting my showcase there again

[soft crane]

Anyway, the main argument is Overdogs doesnt give 100% uptime and most of the times you cant pick your targets.

[hybrid pelican]

I like having 1 guy run it in the group for T10. Personally I run hollowman so I focus reds then chunga etc. While they can pick off the other rushers etc.

[subtle bluff]

Taking guys off the battlefield quicky at scaling should be priority on top of special buff guys.

[timid fiber]

What third attribute would I want on my MK46?

[soft crane]

crit chance

[timid fiber]

Got one. Assume use the bigger mag from Gunner to squeeze as much as can from the talent and/or adjust modifiers for max magazine size? The reload speed on this thing though is horrendous

[heady terrace]

Can someone show me the ideal healer build with birdie?

[sullen mirage]

is there certain skill attachments that I should be looking for as a newbie? Hard to tell which skill attachments I'll regret throwing out

[subtle bluff]

It's FI just swap out gloves.

You don't swap out till you need to and you can stay on it but mostly Birdies can be used on any build.

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the skil.

[heady terrace]

oooooh i gets it

[subtle bluff]

The Setup and BTSU are very powerful but if you notice your team is going down a lot then yes switch.

But in escalation or general atm with the modifiers OC keep players up just fine.

[sullen mirage]

what about for shield, turret, decoy, and chem launcher? I see those skills around a lot

[subtle bluff]

Health Health Regen Holster, Health and DMG, Ammo and then w/e version it’s for

[frosty rivet]

I mean personally I'd like a little logo on highest/lowest enemies in the encounter, would help keep track of it

[junior lagoon]

Late Ikia said overdogs were good. So i use them. nuff said

[hazy steeple]

RIP iKia I guess, had no clue he died.

[junior lagoon]

some die when they are alive

[hazy steeple]

I read that once on a back tattoo.

[frosty rivet]

Is this satire or is bro actually dead

[stark marsh]

he's dead because he retired

[hazy steeple]

He's alive, martin' just used the wrong word.

[frosty rivet]

Nice

[hazy steeple]

iKia swapped to warframe, etc. Which is really funny if you think about it.

[frosty rivet]

Should enjoy the build crafting there, alot more numbers

[stark marsh]

i don't even know what the cool kid augments are

[frosty rivet]

Definitely that

[hazy steeple]

Basically just Echo on DPS stuff, from what I've seen.

1 Atomise is actually really nice.

[summer totem]

What augments fit skill builds

[frosty rivet]

One day I'll get around to making that grenade build

[hazy steeple]

I have a fondness for the Skill Cooldowns for my LMG strikers.
insta-decoy!

[summer totem]

Specifically striker drone and turrets

[frosty rivet]

Probably the refractor one

[summer totem]

I meant augments from prototypes not gear sets

[hazy steeple]

Yep that's what I was talking about.

[frosty rivet]

Yeah there's one that heals on damage

Just forgot the name of it

[stark marsh]

anomaly

for the skills restore hp based on dmg

[summer totem]

Im probably gonna achieve my end game build in half a year

[frosty rivet]

Turret and drone doesn't need alot of cooldown so those aguments would be overkill

[subtle bluff]

We do?

[frosty rivet]

I dunno, I figured warframe is a little more indepth than division

[summer totem]

My gara and mesa build says yes

[hazy steeple]

It is, it's also a lot dumber with it.

[stark marsh]

Quantum: Provides a small chance to become temporarily immune to damage. The bonus cannot refresh while active.
Echo: Each bullet fired has a chance to deal its damage a second time.
Atomize: Increases grenade radius and damage.
Amalgam: Each bullet hit has a chance to apply a random status effect.
Trapper: Increases the duration of status effects you apply.
Entropy: Increases your Health based on a percentage of your total Armor.
Anomaly: Skills restore a portion of the damage they deal as healing.
Paradox: Provides a chance to refill part of your magazine while firing.
Synesthesia: Bullet hits have a chance to slightly reduce skill cooldowns. 

idk if that's pinned anywhere but

[hazy steeple]

been playing since 2014: warframe's weird
div is very straight forward in comparison.

[unique bison]

😔

[summer totem]

Alot of playstyle diversity mine specifically spamming gara that kills enemies within a certain distance

[frosty rivet]

Is quantum actually useable

[summer totem]

Agreed

[frosty rivet]

I just remembered deflector shield counts as skill damage, would that proc anomaly?

[summer totem]

Man i wanna play pistol builds but the 100% threat is killing me

[stark marsh]

depends on how it scales when leveling? leaning towards a hard no tho. unless you can max it out and stack every slot with it? assuming 10% at max lv that's 90%? maybe?

[frosty rivet]

Wait until the manhunt

[junior lagoon]

it is a metaphor / hyperbolic Epithet

[subtle bluff]

I mean we have HHF..

[frosty rivet]

90 percent seems very unlikely

[summer totem]

What's hhf

[subtle bluff]

Maybe a bit try hard..

[stark marsh]

headhunter's fury no?

[summer totem]

What i mean by pistol build is that headhunter pistol build

[frosty rivet]

Interested in trying the new manhunt revolver with dodge city

[subtle bluff]

The clip above.

[hazy steeple]

"former" is probably better to use there next time.
"late" has some connotations, and he's not dead or missed his period :p

[frosty rivet]

He might have missed it

[dawn perch]

does anyone have a way make it so that sniper build are not just bad at getting run over by everything? (in legendary)

[stark marsh]

This Is How iKia's Late Period Has Shifted The Division 2's Meta !

[subtle bluff]

Doing it wrong

[frosty rivet]

We start using pickles and ice cream for dps

[summer totem]

I feel like airaldi with vigilance is better to use

Switch the gloves to overdogs, what you need to focus on is damage, hotshot passive aint sht if you're dealing half a 100 mil per shot

[subtle bluff]

You are right! We get sooo much HSD more HSD isn’t as much as increase vs WD

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot talent is great! If you’re good at never missing

[stark marsh]

i never got a good airaldi vigilance bag 😔
my build also has a gift

[subtle bluff]

But it’s really worth over ya

[frosty rivet]

I just wish I was better at proccing headhunter

[subtle bluff]

To note HH scales from WD not HSD.

[summer totem]

Aim for the red one first

[soft crane]

Lmao same

[subtle bluff]

Not even if you do overdogs you can go for purples

[summer totem]

That's my go to build for nba farming

Sweet 5 level per 4 minutes including cutscenes

[frosty rivet]

Nah I just suck at aiming with snipers on division

[soft crane]

Curse that Airladi with vigilance backpack

[summer totem]

With exp event ofc

[frosty rivet]

I should definitely try using my snipers more but iam always stuck to support builds

[summer totem]

If you're good at positioning and aiming for rhe head first shot go for it

Its satisfying to 1 shot rogue agents

[frosty rivet]

I am, just something about division snipers feel weird. But I know I definitely need more practice

I'll probably try to run my sniper build the majority of my next time I play

[stark marsh]

also Pardon My Ignorance but is the loss of the headache perk worth the overdogs difference?

[shy willow]

Yes

[stark marsh]

like that much? wack

[shy willow]

Assuming you need the damage, of course

[dawn perch]

it barely made a difference in my build. I always felt bad to use. Unless it just white death that is just terrible.

[shy willow]

A 30 percent amp boosts your first shot considerably

[summer totem]

Did you put all hsd on your build?

[shy willow]

Depending on what you're running potentially enough to one shot an elite

[dawn perch]

yep and i hit maybe 20-33 mil

[shy willow]

Which opens up a lot of options for starting your chain

[summer totem]

At max stacks 1 shot bosses and rogue agents

[summer totem]

Max stack?

[dawn perch]

max stacks

[summer totem]

That's small af

[shy willow]

?

[summer totem]

Are your hsd attributes all at 10%?

[dawn perch]

also the build cannot do rushers

[shy willow]

If you're fighting factions with a lot of helmets and/or plating then it's not worth but everywhere else it's very efficient

[dawn perch]

all the but 3 mods are missing maybe -2% each (8% avg). No i am not farming that

[summer totem]

Lemme clarify, did you only deal 20-33 against enemies you couldn't 1 shot

[summer totem]

I mean thats fine but to maximize the build's potential you need that

[shy willow]

20m is enough to blow away anything in solo scaling

Which is why I mentioned overdogs being good if you need them

[summer totem]

In any case change your gloves to overdogs and get airaldi with vigilance

[dawn perch]

this with overdogs. I do not ahve pack with airaldi anyways

[summer totem]

Farm it

10% MM rifle is massive

What shd level are you that also plays a factor a bit

[subtle bluff]

Not is saw what MMR I was using in that clip?

It's the lowest of all the bolt actions.

[summer totem]

I've yet to get white death with determined

[shy willow]

Hotshot is a build that doesn't really need any min maxing if you're playing solo

If you're playing in groups with larger enemy health pools then it matters

[dawn perch]

oddly it made little impact on my hit damage (now about (33M-35M) but it like the one i just craft and got. does still need ramp up.

[dawn perch]

over 1000 shd so stats should be maxed.

[subtle bluff]

The first shots should be what you're need to know your dmg to the what you're shooting

A full stack HH hotshot should always be above 25 mill

without overdogs or anything else

[normal shadow]

What's acceptable for FI healers? The skill haste is only 73% andrepair 1,4m.

[subtle bluff]

TBH it almost doesn't matter.

It's really up to the player and how they hard with there skills

If you spam then haste if you're mindful repair

[normal shadow]

I guess I'll just bump the haste to 85% and try that.

[warm talon]

Help please. What is the best build for running escalation on higher tiers, I'm only watch level 200 and have done tier 0 twice but got annihilated on tier 2

[livid sorrel]

Don't even think about doing high escalation at that SHD level tbh

[warm talon]

Not even tier 2?

[high dagger]

play carefully with striker set something like 55/110 crit should do well I think

[livid sorrel]

If you can solo heroic reliably you can try, but you want every buff from the watch

[high dagger]

I agree with this. Unless you really want to try bruteforcing escal, which takes a long time

[warm talon]

Thank you

Would you both say half red half blue striker maybe?

[high dagger]

all red

[warm talon]

Or just avoid it completely

[warm talon]

That's what I have with st elmo

[high dagger]

survivability is kinda bad in escal since enemies have increased dmg

play slowly with hologram, evade rushing and play long range

[warm talon]

I've noticed it is very tricky

[livid sorrel]

Survivability doesn't matter in escalation since they deal so much damage that you pop one shot protection either way

[warm talon]

And I'm missing a trick because I still need to unlock the decoy

On this account anyway

[normal shadow]

Do you want the honest truth? Don't worry about escalation yet. Just unlock the skills and get expertise up and so on.

[subtle bluff]

If you're unable to heroics solo without issues aka full reds and not going down you're just gonna have more issues in escalations.

[hazy steeple]

If you really want to practice for proper Escalation and need a buffer, Tier 0 Esca is identical to Heroic, and has no modifiers.

The drops are not great, but the practice is the important part here.

[livid sorrel]

Can't call for backup in t0, but if you do finish it you get some tokens

[stark marsh]

i'm just shy of 300 shd and if solo i just stick to t0/t1. less of a headache.

[warm talon]

Thanks for the advice everyone much appreciated

[exotic talon]

so, the setup or the regular talent in general
would it work with hunter's fury smg

[stone python]

its almost impossible for a perfect proto ceska backpack to drop

[smoky latch]

HSD / WH 😭

[stone python]

lol

crap att

[toxic knoll]

I can hear the pain being experienced from here.

[stone python]

I was at a T5 hotel the mobs seemed very tough for a T5 esc

sometimes we get on their nerves lol

keep or delete?

[solar sable]

proto recalibration someday

[short bone]

whats the ideal repair skills number for healer?

[subtle bluff]

TBH it almost doesn't matter.
It's really up to the player and how they hard with there skills
If you spam then haste if you're mindful repair

This is mostly for FI everything else is more heals

[stone python]

-_-

[hazy steeple]

Hey free proto core!

Quick, someone rob 'em.

[near cipher]

what build is ideal for farming low escalation as a solo

[hazy steeple]

Since Tier 0 Esca is just base Heroic, around that you can use what you'd normally use there.

[steady garnet]

Any thoughts/suggestions?

[solar sable]

I use this

[smoky latch]

For lower tiers this is fine

Equalizer/Overdogs/4pcs Striker's (don't mind the proto/augments)
Everything crit

[subtle bluff]

P. Obli is better than normal Obli.

@smoky latch @solar sable showing builds with proto... bad.

[near cipher]

ah ok, so just strikers essentially good for like tier 1-2

[solar sable]

for any tier

[smoky latch]

Well don't mind proto/augments. I don't have the non-proto stuff anymore

[livid sorrel]

striker for everything

[smoky latch]

Kinda

[subtle bluff]

Striker is good everywhere.

[near cipher]

whhat skills and active modifier would you recommend?

[subtle bluff]

save this then.

[smoky latch]

Aye

[subtle bluff]

I should finish my overview..

[stone python]

Should i keep this mask with echo?

[gentle lichen]

eh

[subtle bluff]

Proto isn't worth keeping if the attributes aren't right.

[hallow arch]

isn't the best way to have super good prototypes is to max out the items' proficiency and then turn them into prototypes?

[subtle bluff]

It would be.

Not many have it exo for it.

[hallow arch]

fair enough

[soft crane]

Prototype can be recalibrated in the future update isnt it?

[smoky latch]

They're looking into it. No info how nor when

[soft crane]

And when you're prototyping a gear, one of its attribute is guaranteed to be maxed out?

The augmentation is random and how can you reroll it?

[exotic talon]

somehow it hasnt occurred to me before that PVGC is providence 2pc

[smoky latch]

One stat is guaranteed to be new max, 5% for two and 1% for all three

[onyx sage]

yes, 1 of them is guaranteed, if it's a named item with a special stat then that special stat gets the guarantee

[smoky latch]

Augment is random and you can re-roll it, yes. Getting expensive really quick man...

[soft crane]

Haha, prototype is all about FOMO anyway.

[smoky latch]

Not FOMO, just gambling

[exotic talon]

named items like hollow man and the mop are worth upgrading

[smoky latch]

I scrapped one earlier

[stone python]

can this be useful in a skill build Hard wired + echo

[buoyant perch]

Not really

But you can reroll the augment

[wicked elm]

new player here o7
bit of a different question: How do you guys decide when to put a weapon on your primary or your secondary weapon slot? does it matter at all?

(got a bit confused cuz the "Stats" tab shows only the stats from the weapon in the primary slot)

[smoky latch]

Cycle through by holding G pressed

[wicked elm]

ahh gotcha, I must be blind then...

appreciate the help

[full cosmos]

Question: what's the max crit damage and crit chance I should have before speccing into armour for escalation beyond T5. I am 650 shade level using striker or tipping scales.

[soft crane]

Crit chance obviously as close to 60% and for CHD, you start to get diminishing returns at around 250% from what peeps said here.

[full cosmos]

So am I speccing for crit dam 200+?

[soft crane]

Pardon?

[full cosmos]

So should I aim for as close to 250 as possible for my damage builds

[subtle bluff]

There isn't a set amount for CHD.

[full cosmos]

I see

Thank you

[soft crane]

Tipping Scales for example gives a lot of CHD so you might want to get somekind of weapon damage bonus like Overdogs and Obliterate talent.

[full cosmos]

I seee. But with strikers cayotes better with crit dam

[soft crane]

yeh its alright

[viral ridge]

what are the best skills if i want to make a skill based build? currently using striker drone

i was tempted to go crusader shield

[soft crane]

The best build for striker drone and assault turret is Refactor iirc.

Was it you who said Refactor outdamage my old skill damage build? @subtle bluff

And it can even heal on top of that.

[subtle bluff]

I say a lot things?

[soft crane]

You live here sir.

Im thinking its either you or Infinity.

[hazy geode]

Is there any point in running a sniper build

[gentle lichen]

There is

[hazy geode]

I really really wanna build a build around the nemesis or shroud but idk if it’ll do anything in like escalation or retaliations

[gentle lichen]

You won't get far in escalation but in open world or retals it's pretty good

[misty walrus]

no offence of a drone turret build without refractor is a complete turn off for me

[soft crane]

Yeah I was just trying to get attention. I think someone said Refactor outdamage that old skill damage build but Im not sure how.

[subtle bluff]

On Skill dmg alone HE build has like 6 more or something.

3pcs Refactor is 25 Skill DMG
3pcs Emp 13 (5+8) 2pc Hana u 8 and Wyn is 8

[still kindle]

Hi everyone
Small question
Can you get the hollwman mask from farming the houndsman bounty

[subtle bluff]

In solo you can do about up to t4 t5 solo but you need to understand how HH works well before doing

[subtle bluff]

I believe so.

[still kindle]

Anyone can share it for me please

I’m looking for one

[subtle bluff]

Wrong channel for that. Go to your LFG for that

[still kindle]

Sorry
New to discord 🫣

[subtle bluff]

You’re good . I’m just blunt.

[exotic talon]

nemesis is still pretty good in escalation i think

shroud probably cant stack headhunter above like t6

[jaunty surge]

In case you didn't know.

[exotic talon]

what

[urban latch]

The first few tiers, but once you get to mid-tier it's going to suddenly become useless.

[summer totem]

Anyone got high end AR builds to share?

Rn im running Salvo Equalizer, 1 pc GS and Ceska with named lengmo backpack

[strong cave]

Go 3 UA and keep Ceska + Grupo. Slap on strega. Apply overdogs to the build as well. You'll hit for stupidly high numbers

[soft crane]

What?

[strong cave]

Expertise 30 I'm bodyshotting almost 2.1m with strega. Even without it you'll easily touch 1.7m

(top end damage. Up front you should be hitting around 800k - 1.1m)

[soft crane]

@summer totem

That build CHC is precisely 60%

[strong cave]

Crithorn 💯

That's another solid build too

Will also see similar numbers to strega but you'll see those mostly on headshots since you have 2 different sources of damage: Crit + Headshot

[summer totem]

What talent should i use on backpack

[soft crane]

Vigi

[jaunty surge]

I have achieved, healing greatness.

[soft crane]

Up to 220% CHD when Killer is active.

[subtle bluff]

By default you should have standard FI on.

[summer totem]

Fr?

[soft crane]

The Gift, yes.

[summer totem]

How bout unstoppable or is that not efficient

[subtle bluff]

Just go back to striker then.

The point of doing HE is you don’t need to stack.

[soft crane]

Isnt that require you to get kills first?

[summer totem]

I dont like striker no mo boss

[jaunty surge]

I genuinly have no idea what you're trying to say, but okay.

[soft crane]

Like 3 kills to reach max stack

[summer totem]

Yeeeee

[subtle bluff]

That

[subtle bluff]

No that’s Prefect version.

[jaunty surge]

I still have no idea what you're trying to say. That's a healer build.

[summer totem]

Okay i use the gift

[subtle bluff]

You’re missing the parts of the build that make it good.

[summer totem]

I just realized that most of the time im behind cover and rarely get hit

[subtle bluff]

You just have FI gearset on that’s.

[jaunty surge]

LMAO. What are you even talking about?

[subtle bluff]

This is not “greatness”

[soft crane]

Thats the entire point of full red cores DPS builds sir. At least with AR its obvious to get in cover while reload, magdump, then take cover again.

[summer totem]

He has a point

[livid sorrel]

BTSU gloves is a massive skill haste boost for your hive, vs birdies that only work when someone is downed

[summer totem]

You're using healer hive, you'd need something like btsu gloves to overload or cooldown, setup ensures you provide damage buffs for your team via opportunistic and scorpion max stack

[subtle bluff]

No build should be just focus on healing we call them support builds because it does more than just heal.

[summer totem]

Btsu gloves gives you like 90% more hive haste

[subtle bluff]

Crazy amount and global OC.

[jaunty surge]

Right. Imma take BTSU gloves instead of Birdie's in T10. Gotcha.

[subtle bluff]

I do it all the time. But you’re still missing other parts of support builds to help the team out.

[summer totem]

Yeah i just realized

[subtle bluff]

A support player vs a good support player make an effective difference in team comp.

It’s why I post a detail guide on all the parts of it and what they can and should do to help a team out.

[livid sorrel]

A pure healer falls off when the team is good enough to avoid damage on their own

[soft crane]

Whats Uzina Getica first bonus?

[subtle bluff]

Total Armor

[summer totem]

Pretty pointless

[jaunty surge]

That we agree on.

But I'm not taking anything but Birdie's in T10 with randoms so whatever you're trying to sell here, it doesn't fly.

[soft crane]

Can I use Alps Summit backpack but with the same Opportunistic talent?

[subtle bluff]

You’re missing Lefty.

[subtle bluff]

Yes but that 5% amp is pretty big in the end and FI by itself can heal well enough.

[soft crane]

Oh ok

[summer totem]

Well for starters unlimited hive heals, overcharge

[livid sorrel]

??? im not selling anything

[summer totem]

But then again at T10 people are likely to get insta killed before the heals register

So i guess i can see why you want birdie

[jaunty surge]

Pretty much, unless you're running with the launcher out.

[subtle bluff]

I get it but to a degree some teams are better than other and at some rate Birdie does nothing for a team.

[summer totem]

Played t10 with various teams and you'd be surprised how much they go down

[subtle bluff]

I’ve done it all.

The funny thing is that anyone can use birdie

[jaunty surge]

Unfortunately true, but for every run you get a team that doesn't need birdie's, you get 20 runs with teams that definitely need it.

[subtle bluff]

I’ll Rez you player as much as support due to being better position to do so.

[summer totem]

Well in any case whatever fits your playstyle

[subtle bluff]

It’s all slop to me at point. Why players do T10 when there not ready nor skilled enough to understand all the small things.

[summer totem]

Imagine they make tier 8 skills lmao

[urban latch]

You ultimately really want both birdies and BTSU, and just hotswap between both. If anyone thinks they are good enough to play T10, then they should be able to hotswap as needed between the two. Both play an important role

[jaunty surge]

You can switch to BTSU when hives go down, reset and switch back.

[urban latch]

Exactly

[summer totem]

Swap when someone goes down then swap back i can agree with that

[subtle bluff]

IMO as someone that was a support main. Starting out should be on The Setup at least to help DPS and help things go down faster.

[summer totem]

Oh btw does btsu drop with skill damage or nah

Genuinely would've loved to use it more if so

[subtle bluff]

It’s fixed to what it is.

[summer totem]

That sucks

Being able to spam stinger hive was fun

[jaunty surge]

I wonder if full Synesthesia would work well...

[subtle bluff]

It’s not worth much.

From other that tested it.

[jaunty surge]

On max % rolls? Shame...

For a healer build, Amalgam would be amazing if there wasn't the 5s cooldown.

[subtle bluff]

It’d be less effective due to not being able to shoot a lot for it to proc.

[patent fossil]

Didn't test it in practice but did the maths on the numbers and by my reckoning, at 7 piece max rolls and hitting enemies at 850 rpm (which seems unlikely in practice) you'd still get less than 50% off your cooldowns on average

[frozen laurel]

Is this striker build still valid? Been quite a while since I last played. Currently have 57.7% CC and 88.7% CD, last time I played I was told to try and get CD up a bit more and try to get more CD rolls on the gear instead of CC.

[subtle bluff]

If you’re need to that much heals and you have BTSU and/or OC from modifiers there’s another issues going on.

[subtle bluff]

This is from a few seasons ago. It still works.
If you go to the Pinned Messages there are Starter Guide that’ll show you the updated one and other stuff.

[frozen laurel]

ty ty 🙂

[summer totem]

Does incoming repair function the same as skill repair

[jaunty surge]

Damn.

That is pretty bad. To be honest, that is really bad.

[patent fossil]

Similarly when you're healing yourself but incoming repair also affects other players skills healing you while skill repair also affects you healing other players

[summer totem]

So if im a selfish prick i should go for that?

[patent fossil]

Prob not tbh, if you're not playing a heal build then there's likely better stat options

[jaunty surge]

Striker is largely up to preference.

Equipping Striker chest is generally worth it only for T10 Escalation.

Other than that, you generally go Equalizer chest plus an item of your choice.

Fox Prayer pads, Coyote mask for team damage amp, Hollow Man for the health damage or Salvo for RPM amp. Contractor's is also there.

Largely depends on the weapons and talents you're running.

I personally am a fan of Fox Prayer because you can slap it on with any weapon/talent and it just works.

[patent fossil]

When overdogs exist?

[jaunty surge]

Ah, forgot about them. There's that option as well.

I honestly LOATH managing my damage so I never use them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal shadow]

Honestly I've taken to playing Birdie's in matchmaking, since a lot of players do not know what they're doing and they are laying down more than I'd like to.

If I'm in a group that can handle itself then I break out BTSU and Setup.

[livid sorrel]

it's still a big enough buff even if you're hitting the right tier half of the time

[jaunty surge]

Yeah, math says it's still better DPS wise even if you're only hitting 50% of the time, but hey, that's just me.

[patent fossil]

Given all rushers, assault and grenadiers automatically always qualify for the buff (also snipers), they're just worth it

[subtle bluff]

Again here’s the thing. You don’t need to have birdies on all the time just swap back to The Setup to help with buff is huge.

15% AMP for 3x players on frenzy is huge.

[normal shadow]

When the people are falling down on such a high rate, you pretty much do.

[patent fossil]

Meanwhile foxes costs you a brand bonus and a minor stat bonus (up to 28% chd in effect if we ignore proto) in exchange for the dtooc, which in a crit starved build like strikers is just not worth it