td2-build-advice

[smoky latch]

BT has NPCs with armor frequently

[silent storm]

And 12% is great boost

[smoky latch]

Overall it'd make sense in a team if you have someone focus on DtH and another one and DtA for instance

[subtle bluff]

there isn't a cut off..

If there are more spawns without targets where DTA is gonan work it's not worth it.

IF there are more targets with DTH then it's worth..

[mint musk]

I take talent Killer is suitable for lexington?

[lone glacier]

for Solo, yeah

[subtle bluff]

Thanks I should add that in because knowledge is really the other part of high escalation builds and gameplay.

[mint musk]

so whats suitable for group and pvp?

[lone glacier]

Measured is what I personally run for group

Probably works in pvp too, but I got no clue about pvp and what works there or doesn't

[smoky latch]

Ya for sure

[silent storm]

Measured or a build buff like Flatline or Sadist

[mint musk]

i see, seems i'm more of a solo player.. just curious about the group and pvp for lexington.. just got a god roll lex tho

[lone glacier]

lex always drop perfectly rolled

[mint musk]

is that so? , its kind of clever by devs tho .. soon or later we may get tired of lexington in the long run😅

[smoky latch]

It used to be a one-time giveaway for veterans back then

So they made it God rolled

As a little gift

That never changed

[mint musk]

i see

[next dawn]

I understand your pain now

It was a t6 carry bro my back hurts for the carrying

[lone glacier]

Man I missed out on not running hotshot

[finite fractal]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/GwdgtMYIwEzWcojgBjGj6uYwLigBwJgDMxcArAJza0524ySrxwj0d3q7hlpRdOQxnBYChghjFFZxkiXhACBICmDUw0AFiIE1HXAvmH5xlLhKQj5qDWtA

It's pretty weird build but I think it might work. It has a LOT of damage(potentially😁 )

What do you think?

[subtle bluff]

I see now the reasoning I should do a just a guide for escalation builds. sigh

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs

[smoky latch]

Told ya it'll become a core part of conversations here

[silent storm]

ZERO Blue Cores

[finite fractal]

Thanks a lot! A lot of letters^)

[narrow iris]

is there a named weapon which heals on dealing damage, i swore its one of the named weapons for this event

[smoky latch]

Nope

There is Refactor that heals by skill damage and there is Bittersweet, headshots basically heal your team

[subtle bluff]

No. The closest is Bittersweet but it's for others

[soft crane]

Err... this season i think.

What does that do?

[silent storm]

Why even bother Vigilance is 25%

[soft crane]

Vigilance does the same thing. Gives 5% higher damage but buff wont active if you get hit. Downtime is 4 seconds.

Tbh I might consider it as well.

[neat axle]

Is there a cap on damage? With the Bullet King and max tipping scales damage I deal 1.3m headshot crits while with the Big Alejendro without the cover stacks deals about 900k per headshot crit and 1.3m with full cover stacks. Should it not be dealing approx. 1.8m per crit?

[subtle bluff]

The cap on dmg is much higher than that.

[smoky latch]

Bruh let me re-roll the fugging core...

RIP (semi) unicorns as proto drops

Useless cuz you can't change anything

[lone glacier]

denied

[smoky latch]

What a joke

[lone glacier]

Swear they better just allow us to recalibrate protos for proto cores or something soon

[smoky latch]

What an oversight, man! How could they not think of that (Unless it's actually wanted). I'll keep this mask as I keep my faith in this game for now

[lone glacier]

Im not even Expertise 30 and Im getting pissed at the proto drops Ive gotten lmao

[uncut yarrow]

Not even an oversight they talked about it before it even released because everyone was up in arms. Im sure they're thinking of the best way to make it a mid ass system lol

I always feel bad because guaranteed the whole soul of game developing in these companies just gets smothered by greed bruh. All those devs that truly try their best, work hard, do their job and yet it all turns into slop in the name of money and management

[mystic quiver]

Alejandro raises weapon damage not amplified or total,

There’s already the 6 red cores, the weapon main stat, presumably whatever your specialization has LMG damage built in so it’s +100% on top of at least like 120% base

Which sounds about right for what you’re seeing

[viscid plaza]

I'm literally saying this in general, not everything that is uber optimal has to be the only thing people are willing to run

Watching now, thanks for mention

[maiden temple]

of course!

Don't mind my accuracy with snipers xD

[neat axle]

Ah ok, thanks

[silent storm]

Is this self promotion?

[maiden temple]

Nah, sort of an impromtu build showcase

I was challenged to use it on legendary difficulty since people didn't believe me xD

[silent storm]

Not allowed to post to your own YT channel

[maiden temple]

how else am I supposed to show this then?

[silent storm]

Upload it here

[maiden temple]

It's over the limit-
It's an hour long video

[silent storm]

Then put it in your bio

[maiden temple]

So, which rule is this breaking, cause I just read em and nothing in there says anything about posting yt links

[subtle bluff]

"self promotion"

Just delete it you're fine

[maiden temple]

It's not self promo, it's a build showcase

[maiden temple]

look back at the original convo and you'll see it's just a showcase

[silent storm]

I got yelled at too so don't take it personal

[uncut yarrow]

Mo Bamba

[maiden temple]

I'm not? I'm just clarifying

[subtle bluff]

here.
Stells long showcase of doing leggo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Med1nz_tI

Delete your or an mod will later

Yup an hour run for Capital.

[maiden temple]

either way, the build was shown, that was my point

[silent storm]

Maybe I was a little to harsh on Thorn earlier, this seems pretty good though right?

[maiden temple]

imma head out now

[subtle bluff]

Never you couldn't do it.

Just it would be really long but nice not a lot players have the focus to do it that long with decent gameplay.

My last duo run was like 15 mins but that's because our knowledge.

[sage leaf]

15min sounds like a insane time for it

[subtle bluff]

I am sometimes a speedrunner

[lone glacier]

I think my best time on leggo capitol is like 23 minutes or something.. tons of time to improve

[silent storm]

Before Proto was getting almost 15 mins on Roosevelt

[subtle bluff]

GE's?

[silent storm]

I think that was TS Big Al

[lone glacier]

Any global events?

[silent storm]

2026 03 10 so what was happening then?

[subtle bluff]

It has to be. WR runs is only like 8-10 mins TBH I can't remember

[lone glacier]

Assault GE was at the time

[silent storm]

Ok yeah that might have been it

I was Refactor

[lone glacier]

Ambush ended on 10th and Assault started on 10th. Guessing it was Assault

[silent storm]

With 3 Big AL

I bet with Proto Legendary can be done way quicker now

But I don't even want to do Legendary as I lose out on gaining Proto lol

[inland hound]

i literally random matchmaked legendary capitol and we speed ran it in 17 mins lmao, no comms just us locked in bum rushing the spawn doors.

[silent storm]

3 TS Big Al on the Capitol Roof lol

[smoky latch]

That was during the assault event

Huge DMG increase from not moving

[inland hound]

yeah literally this but i just banshee pulsed and nuked with Gr9 frenzy

[silent storm]

Was glorious

[smoky latch]

Made the Big Al a beast

[silent storm]

Still a beast

[smoky latch]

It's not bad for sure. But I use a HE LMG with Frenzy instead

[silent storm]

I would put 3 Big Al and a Refactor against any Legendary mission and it will conquer it no problems

[subtle bluff]

Solo Legendary Capitol Building Using Only Quickstep - The Division 2 Assault Global Event 16 min...
https://youtu.be/JF9E1xv00Hk?si=aL_0--wRKN2w5j6j

[smoky latch]

lmao

[silent storm]

Hey man, Quickstep got some DPS to it

You just need the GR

[lone glacier]

Man I need to run IH to get Regulus..

[subtle bluff]

Rowdy did you not read the title?

[autumn totem]

What's better for heartbreaker? Catharsis or momento?

[subtle bluff]

Memento

[smoky latch]

How can you spell Catharsis correct but not Memento? :p

[silent storm]

I did and I am telling you that I shoot enemies with my QS and since I have GR DttooC on it instead of Swap Speed I like it for some quick takedowns of rushing reds

[subtle bluff]

and did it solo?

[silent storm]

Yeah

I have OvD though

[subtle bluff]

He did what you did in the post above in the same time solo without using real weapons.

[silent storm]

So Rushers are 30% amp

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs doesn't matter with GE's.

You're being acutally dumb now....

[autumn totem]

Was just typing quick lol. Do you spell things correctly every single day? :p

[silent storm]

I'm not talking about GE I am just talking everyday use

[smoky latch]

Njes

[subtle bluff]

No you're just changing subjects and trying to clout farm yourself.

Just blocking you for a bit before I start saying rude stuff

[silent storm]

18 in the mag dude 24 I think with TS. Quickstep ain't just a run fast gun, it'll down somebody. Shooting and moving

That's the mods I put on it

[inland hound]

i prototyped my quick step, why? because i keep that Strap on me.

[reef crypt]

anyone here can tell me how to farm name items like the lexington ? if you got extra can i have it for free my rnd is really bad lol

[subtle bluff]

Rowdy just saying random stuff to clout himself...

[silent storm]

23 base 24 with over reload so yea

[onyx sage]

can we all just be friends?

[subtle bluff]

Event Caches.

[inland hound]

through the event Gear caches. Farm keys by killing unique enemies that spawn in the open world too get keys, use those keys on event caches for a chance at lexington.

[reef crypt]

i see thanks ill try that

[lone glacier]

I'm your friend

[onyx sage]

why aren't you doing legendaries with me rn friend

[reef crypt]

does countdown works ? for farming also ?

[silent storm]

Mr. Chow just hates that sometimes I am right for some reason

The worst person you know just made a good point type thing

[inland hound]

the event keys, no. its strictly open world

[lone glacier]

You never asked, friend

[inland hound]

Full details: https://thedivision2.com/tu-y8s1-1-update-notes

[onyx sage]

xD let's play some time this weekend

[silent storm]

This is a decent SG to keep right?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[lone glacier]

Im game. Leggos?

[onyx sage]

yeah, masters and escalations too if you want

[lone glacier]

Down for anything tbh

[idle tendon]

how come I can't lvl my regulus expertise past 24? Do I need to get the Brooklyn DLC?

[smoky latch]

Yeah and you need to sacrifice your first-born

Increase your overall expertise, you're stuck at 24 right now

[minor grove]

This explains why I can go to level 10,000 expertise 🤔

[neat axle]

Show me your best SMG builds I just got this sweet sweet roll for a pp19 and I have a sudden interest in smgs

[solar sable]

have you relog yet?

[neat axle]

Yes, relog and full game restart

[solar sable]

wtf

if it only had DTOC

[neat axle]

What is DTOC?

[onyx sage]

damage to target out of cover

[solar sable]

ugh

[onyx sage]

don't mind me 🛫

[neat axle]

Ah

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

@agile pollen Give this guide a read.

[agile pollen]

ahh striker builds were meta back in the day lol

[soft crane]

Always has been.

[agile pollen]

i pm you

[surreal elk]

Guys do same augments on gear stack ? Like if i have echo on chest and mask ?

[nimble moss]

Yes it does.

[surreal elk]

so if I have 3 augments of echo each for 1%, its gonna be 3% in total?

[nimble moss]

Correct.

[terse scroll]

is my Lexington weaker after prototyping it? it feels weaker, i got Echo on it

[smoky latch]

It's not weaker. If you look at the values you'll see you have increased SWD and regular gear max stats

[nimble moss]

Prototyped items are never weaker. It's just that 2 stats show bar at minimum because it's minimum prototype roll - but it's still at least at maximum "normal" roll.

[terse scroll]

ah okay, maybe i was just trippin then, maybe i wasn't building stacks enough

[grand swan]

Question about Ongoing Directive. Is it not worth it to spec into status effect for the bleed damage? Most builds I see are a crit OD

[smoky latch]

No, it's not worth it

[inland hound]

best attributes for GR9?

[smoky latch]

CHC usually

[silent storm]

I feel like OD with Trapper Augment can be really strong

[inland hound]

i have DTOC and DTA since i have raw CHC already, and it melts. but i want it to melt more 👀

[solar prairie]

Is Killer or Measured the talent to go with on a Lexington before I proto it?

[civic meteor]

Kard 45 gives a skill tier?

[solar prairie]

Yes, when its drawn out.

[civic meteor]

Oh only when it’s drawn

Sad

[flint arch]

i would prefer to put measured since proto is expensive and measured is better for group play or when you can't get kills often (escalation)

means it can be used everywhere

[solar prairie]

Gotta love this game..

[shy willow]

Reroll it

[solar prairie]

Surely!

It gave me Synethesia, I still dont like it but its better than atomize

atomize should be something like 200% damage, 100% radius as its level1 to be even remotely useful.

[misty walrus]

what does snowfall do?

[solar prairie]

Did you mean the Snow Machine Kneepads effect? Its visual effect AFAIK.

[pallid spoke]

yeah, just makes snow quite literally fall around them

[shy willow]

Funnily enough it's a crazy good augment to have on a survivalist/sledge build

[solar prairie]

Yeah, on the right gun its pretty good. I have it on my sledge

1 reroll should be 2 options to choose from XD, including keeping the current one.

[pallid spoke]

actually tempted to try atomize on a vile eclipse build. Not sure if it actually scales with vile.

too bad mats and proto cores are hard to come by atm

[solar prairie]

They have bumped up the core obtain rate but I still feel it is too steep that the rerolls are exponential in cost.

[misty walrus]

snow will fall when they get burned?

[pallid spoke]

yeah, without relying too much on total rng that is proto drops, current bottleneck with upgrading is the cores and exotic components right now.

[runic thicket]

I play a striker build with st Elmo. I got this prototype from a cache. I have ignored prototype until now. My experience overall level is only 16. Does this gun have good stats, and should I consider spending any of my 2 prototype cores to try getting a better augment? I don't find the grenade one that useful

[lone wadi]

no because the third stat is bad

[runic thicket]

I tried the gun out and it seems good, as effective or maybe even more than st Elmo, but noticeable smaller mag

But for someone with no other prototype gear and no real plans to get more, isn't this better that the max stats possible on high end guns?

[lone wadi]

you shouldnt wate protocores on rerolling the augment of a non perfect piece

in the end i cant stop you if you do but i wouldnt do it

[runic thicket]

I don't think I'll have a more perfect piece than this

The only thing that bothers me about this gun is the grenade based augment, I rarely use grenades

[languid wasp]

always find third attributes with DTOCC no matter what guns

well, unless the weapon has DTOCC as their 2nd attributes.
Damage to Armor sounds nice.

[runic thicket]

I understand that would be ideal, but it's easier said than done.

[lone wadi]

you should not spend resources on potentially imporving a subpar weapon

you dont even know if youll get a good augment or not

[languid wasp]

dont worry, I'm using 1886 with max DTOCC but like 9% weapon damage and 8% crit damage

It's trash but 24m damage is 24m damage.

[pallid spoke]

frankly, if this is the best gun you have right now, just use it until you get a better one.

Don't sweat the small stuff until you can actually afford to.

[languid wasp]

^

Save exo/proto cores for future stuffs, you will get good drop eventually.

[fleet gulch]

For swap builds, is swap build speed a desirable stat, and in this context between Swap Chain and Interchange, which is considered better?

[runic thicket]

I don't play the modes that give you drops. But ok I won't spend my cores

But I'll use the gun

[languid wasp]

I mean, as you're grinding the gear cache where it drops Proto weapons

[grand swan]

Is Tinkerer a good enough exotic to build around for escalation or legendary solo?

[runic thicket]

That's where I got it. But I don't know if I can afford any more. I want to do the 80 key donations. And I get like 2 keys in 2 hours

[solar sable]

Heroic yes, Legendary... maybe not but its up to you

[languid wasp]

the arm patch?

[sage leaf]

Im looking for a build to start getting into esclation/legendary solo's, anyone got any suggestions? (I've been memorizing heroic spawns for awhile)

[flint arch]

it's always striker aughhhhh

negotiator is also good but only in legendary

[subtle bluff]

It's better groups/or things that have more HP.

[flint arch]

idk i just see dien use it in his solo leggo runs

[languid wasp]

what about tipping scale?

[flint arch]

imo stack buildup is too slow

[languid wasp]

no I mean, the build name like you just sent

[languid wasp]

sad but true
Well no worries, I will top the damage

[summer totem]

That luck

[shy willow]

HSD

[summer totem]

Still, for a cache drop

[lunar imp]

is it worth using breaking point or hotshot 4+ pieces for a one shot headshot build?

[flint arch]

3pc hotshot w/ overdogs, airaldi backpack w/ vigilance and chainkiller is the best

4pc breaking point is absolutely not worth it, it's only used for its 2pc effect
4pc hotshot is sometimes useful but generally its only used for its 2pc and 3pc effects

[halcyon sentinel]

hb core is always armor?

[onyx sage]

yes

[lunar imp]

thanks

also any tinkerer builds for 1886? how good are they

[exotic talon]

determined rifleman 1886 is broken

[pulsar burrow]

So with the HB Tech Tank build with Lexington. What's better the flatline variant or the killer variant?

[onyx sage]

flatline

[pulsar burrow]

Good to know. I accidentally put together the killer armor variant lol.

[subtle bluff]

both work

[pulsar burrow]

Oh good. Would the Caretaker be better to use cause it's got perfect killer and all that.

[exotic talon]

3pc hotshot with fox's is pretty good too

[onyx sage]

as long as it can put on LLP

[ebon lantern]

For the OD build https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs I noticed no mention of Catalyst? Was curios if anyone has tried it? I heard getting it is a pain so I kinda get it lol

[onyx sage]

it's bad so it's not worth mentioning in there

it only giving you weapon damage and requiring you to be within 25m of a status affected enemy at all times really limits its viability

[ebon lantern]

Yeah super fair honestly and farming it just seems like a bad time

Well I have a decent Tinkerer helmet ready to go so will def try that. I do see it's mentioned to be bugged sometimes? Does it just not work sometimes?

[onyx sage]

aside from it not working with prototypes which was just fixed with the latest patch, i'm not aware of any other bugs

[ebon lantern]

Oh gotcha, perfect

ty

[lilac peak]

can someone explain how to use overdogs?

[foggy oar]

it gives a dmg buff when attacking the lowest tier enemies. so if there's reds, u get a 30% dmg buff to reds, then purples, and then yellows and then named

[lilac peak]

ok i was thinking i was gonna have to memorize the exact type of enemy

but following the color works?

[high dagger]

isn't there also proxies to keep in mind?

like if there're drones, turrets, or BT dogs

[onyx sage]

no, it depends on the tiers, it's on the talent itself, not veterancy

color doesn't matter at all

#td2-build-advice message

[foggy oar]

oh damn, my life is a lie

[high dagger]

that picture simplifies things so much, thx

[onyx sage]

like the tier listing is on the tooltip of the gloves, the only difficulty for new players is knowing how the names map to the actual enemies

but for now the picture helps a lot

[long dove]

is this still good for HB at higher difficulties with group? i saw a HB build running the HB backpack for more armor with ceska kneepads is that more suited for solo play?

[flint arch]

you lose a lot of damage if you run HB backpack

and HB with blues will not work very well once you get into legendary or master

[long dove]

so what works is it all striker?

or u mean change the blue cores on HB to red?

[flint arch]

striker, tipping scales, concentrated company are all good and viable even in those difficulties

negotiator is more situational but can be very useful

[flint arch]

if you change the blue cores to red, just run striker

[long dove]

yeah got you

[long dove]

i have striker but im enjoying more nego with bluescreen actually but i didnt know tipping scales or coco were good i was dismantling/donating them

[flint arch]

they have different playstyles (and different caveats) but they work well

though striker is the strongest and simplest to use out of them

[long dove]

tipping scales i read the effects its acutally copy paste striker except for lmgs right?

[soft crane]

More or less except the time needed to reach max stack for tipping scales is fixed unlike strikers.

Of course, wearing the backpack is a must for both sets. For striker, you'll lose a lot of damage if you dont. For tipping scale, it'll take even more time to reach max stack.

[long dove]

yeah

[soft crane]

Assuming you're already wearing the backpack, it takes 10 seconds to reach max stack. With additional chest piece, 15 seconds.

[long dove]

im seeing coco right now and i dont have the set but i have full FI its still used as support?

[soft crane]

Rarely.

[flint arch]

vigilance backpack is technically stronger than striker backpack and has some other advantages

TS backpack only influences the stat boosts from your stacks. the chest increases stack limit

[soft crane]

interesting, write it down, write it down!

But in what case do you use a brandset with vigilance for striker build?

[long dove]

so tipping scales is easier to achieve but dmg numbers wise striker wins right?

[long dove]

i noticed what everyone meant when i was lvling up " its all strikers "

[soft crane]

Not exactly. I still prefer Striker just because you can reach max stack easier.

[flint arch]

damage wise they're about the same, but TS stacks take forever to build compared to striker, and you lose stacks extremely fast

[long dove]

the issue is the backpack only from DZ / named caches i might've gotten it but didnt know its BiS for many builds

[flint arch]

it's not that worth it, perfect vigilance only makes vigilance refresh 1 second faster

[soft crane]

just use the regular vigilance

[flint arch]

any backpack with the relevant brand set and vigilance will work

[soft crane]

preferably ceska isnt it?

[flint arch]

2pc providence effect is literally just 1pc ceska

[subtle bluff]

You could put PGC/GC + Vig into with almost any gearset and it does well.

[flint arch]

[soft crane]

damn...

[long dove]

ceska it is

i been using it with my oneshot build and i notice if vigilance is not up i cant kill anyone

[subtle bluff]

The guide is really missing a lot.

Vig really is need for the building HH stacks

Afterwards you should be fine.

[long dove]

i saw the docs and Coco is the same im using just need 4pc i can even use bluescreen or elmo since i have them

i wanted to make 1 build each depending on situation but im enjoying more difficult content thats why my striker/nego felt squishy

no raids yet but i did legendary capitol the other day and even with more experienced players i kept dying instantly

[long dove]

yeah im still messing around but in heroic CP there's a time i 1 shot even elite named enemies and sometimes even purple guys i cant so im missing HH stacks right?

[lilac peak]

this is my new build and it does pretty good damage but i just feel like im too squishy

[flint arch]

you counter the squishiness by learning to use tall cover, corner peeking, positioning, and knowledge of enemy behavior and spawns

if you need some help you can use stuff like exodus gloves for more survivability

[flint arch]

at the start of combat you should shoot reds first to get headhunter going

[ocean wyvern]

would heartbreaker not be a better survival option than striker? or is the philosophy of "kill them before they kill you" still alive and well?

[flint arch]

heartbreaker with any number of blue cores means less damage than striker
heartbreaker with no blue cores is just a worse version of striker

also heartbreaker with blues (something like a techtank) will lose its viability once you go beyond heroic

[lilac peak]

so for striker builds it just comes down to game knowledge then

[subtle bluff]

HB has some buffer being able to take some extra hits but in the end you need to do dmg to kill things.

[subtle bluff]

Wellll that's most of the game.

It's a mix balance of; build, gameplay and knowledge.

[ocean wyvern]

my thought was the talent buff covers your damage needs, unless the difference is more significant than I realize

[subtle bluff]

Yes but those stacks from HB is lil harder to do than others.

imo has a very old HB main you need to pre-stack with HB to make it preform very well.

[languid wasp]

Buff TS

[subtle bluff]

TS actually in some sense does more quicker in ways.

but can lose all of the even faster

[ocean wyvern]

do you find the ramp-up on striker is more comfortable than HB?

[subtle bluff]

2 reasons.

• Striker has a 15% RoF
• HB needs the target pulsed to make stacks

[ocean wyvern]

Makes perfect sense to me then

[ocean wyvern]

I forget about the RoF buff, that kinda solidifies it

[subtle bluff]

HB just plays into Tech Tank

[soft crane]

Billions must run 6 Red Cores now!!!

[ocean wyvern]

is tech tank 6 yellow w/ shield? or blue/yellow mix?

[subtle bluff]

red blue mix

It can be done with striker too

Just farming is bit more since you swap a few cores.

[ocean wyvern]

How is it a tech tank that way?

[subtle bluff]

Spec Tech with hive

[ocean wyvern]

ahhh

[subtle bluff]

It's buff and repairs the shield

The idea is making a tough shield

[ocean wyvern]

gotcha, I've seen a couple of techtank builds but wasn't understanding them, makes more sense to me now

[subtle bluff]

Here's a clip of it.
#td2-build-advice message

I want to say I've master it playing at all the different levels

I do want to revisit it just haven't.

[lilac peak]

thx ill look at this

[ocean wyvern]

@subtle bluff just a random question, it seems like a lot of your build showcases are on lincoln memorial, is there a specific reason for that mission?

[subtle bluff]

Quick and simple.

I am lazy... LOL

[ocean wyvern]

fair enough lol, I just wasn't sure if that was considered like a benchmark mission or not

[subtle bluff]

I've meaning figure out another run and I can do with 5-8 mins to showcase. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna change over to the first few section of a leggo mission or master.

It's not a bad benchmark by any means

It has a mix of ads and then heavy you need to be able to deal with.

[warm oxide]

Any advice on a good survivability/ dps build?

This is what I'm currently running

I also have blue core striker set up, but it wasn't doing much dps so figured I'd give this a go

[flint arch]

nvm

you can't really have both

for DPS you need all cores to be red, and also never use NBB, and a bunch of other stuff

[warm oxide]

For normal straight dps I run 4 piece striker, all red, overdog gloves, and that's typically what I mainly run, but figured I'd experiment with the idea of survival & dps

Though I probably shouldn't say dps, more like just good dmg?

[ocean wyvern]

Honestly, I find 4pc striker w/ Equalizer and Salvo does a lot of work on its own

[flint arch]

more survivability = less dps. and the survivability you get will be meager once you go beyond heroic

if you kill things fast, they can't shoot you

[summer totem]

Anyone got ravenous or rifle build?

[warm oxide]

That's definitely a fair point, I've definitely noticed my damage being quite a bit less, but even with my current set up that posted above, when testing in shooting range on a named elite target it hits 9mil on first kill

I do appreciate the advice, it's good to know

[flint arch]

shooting range dps meter is bad and inaccurate

[warm oxide]

Yeah I definitely noticed that, like with nemesis build

[flint arch]

it's better to manually calculate your dps, or just field test it

[warm oxide]

That's definitely a very fair point

Well tested it solo in the legendary tidal basin, can say I definitely do way nicer dmg, but yeah you're absolutely right on survivability being thrown out the window lol, but this build is meant to last me through heroic or stuff like raids and whatnot, kind of "why not build"

I appreciate your advice/ insight on things though

[long dove]

btw what builds are run in group 4 legendary missions etc like 1 dps 1 tank 1 support?

[flint arch]

3 dps 1 support

[long dove]

FI support?

or could it work with nego/bluescreen

[flint arch]

depends. if its more enclosed/very concentrated enemy spawns, eclipse foam will do better

tanks are basically not very useful in legendary. exception is a support tank w/ perfect vanguard and galvanize, but it requires some pretty advanaced knowledge of enemy spawns and such to use effectively and will still be worse than an eclipse foam user/FI healer

[strong cave]

I have one and so does @flint arch (same as mine)

Give me personally an hour to get back to you with a template. Currently in work

Which reminds me, definitely going to need to put that in my guide at some point

[soft crane]

I forgot how fun cc build is.

Mostly because it looked weird how a man burned to death and suddenly the fire spreads to others.

[ocean wyvern]

speaking of CC builds, is scorpio still the go-to weapon for that? or is iron lung better?

[flint arch]

iron lung is a good DPS weapon, not good for just lighting your enemies on fire

[soft crane]

Scorpio because it can give different status effects.

But I've seen people running eclipse protocol with iron lung. I suppose that works pretty well.

[long dove]

im more confused on what gear to farm next lol

[ocean wyvern]

so moreso damage with a CC effect than CC with high damage

[soft crane]

You're not supposed to deal a lot of damage with cc imo. Though randoms being randoms, they often shoots at an enemy that isn't under status effect.

Which happened to me a lot today. There was one enemy that wasn't ensnared by my riot foam and the entire team chose to shoot that guy instead.

[exotic talon]

bluetooth flame

[ocean wyvern]

I've been trying to expand my builds a little bit out of my comfort zone, and CC is my next foray

[subtle bluff]

DOT Status Effect that don't have a way to scale its base number are very weak.

[ocean wyvern]

for rifles, is 2pc BP better than all HE pieces?

[long dove]

guys just to make sure here overdogs one is better than coyotes?

[ocean wyvern]

I'd say for raw damage, overdogs is better if you can adapt to the playstyle change, if you want something simpler or more team-oriented, coyote's

[long dove]

thank you

[ocean wyvern]

I have a hard time with overdog negotiator personally just because it feels counterintuitive to how I use ND

[long dove]

yeah i thought so cuz it makes tracking stuff too much in a fight

[ocean wyvern]

not even that so much as I usually tag the small guys first then grind down the big guys, overdogs kinda requires you to do the opposite for maximum effect

I feel like overdog negotiator's shines like a diamond in escalations though

[long dove]

thats good i got it ready once i get to escalations

[teal ibex]

can someone tell me whats up with the rifle/snipers not landing shots at all?

[ocean wyvern]

how much weapon handling do you have?

[buoyant barn]

How to get overdog gloves

[ocean wyvern]

accuracy + weapon handling are crucial to precision weapons

[subtle bluff]

Using a scope?

[ocean wyvern]

farm targeted gloves, open event caches, do retaliations, they're in the drop pool

[buoyant barn]

I can get it in countdown?

[ocean wyvern]

you should be able to with targeted gloves

it'll be up to RNG on how long it takes, but you should be able to

[teal ibex]

yes and no

u litteral see the bullet fly straight at the npc. but not hit registration

[gritty pivot]

@teal ibex Happened to me while using the Shroud exotic. Sometimes the bullets fly to the head but doesn't hit. And then I understood that the game isn't using the trajectory of the bullet but rather where you put the "scope". So basically you never need to lead your shots. Just aim straight at their head while they re running.

Side note : Make sure that the two little "arrows" on each side of your scope are perfectly still and centered before you take a shot

otherwise you ll have crazy blooming on your first bullet

to counter that I d recommend sitting in cover since it helps "stabilizing" the reticle faster

to put it in otherwords there is bloom on the first bullet you fire if you don't wait before to make you reticle perfectly still and the snipers seems to be "hitscan" instead of projectiles type.

hope this helps

[calm summit]

Hello, guys i have a quick question, im running a striker build, mask, holster, back, knee, overdogs and equilizer, lexi etc. All reds. What are the recommended modifiers for this season. ? Im kinda new and im experiencing.

[boreal widget]

should i get safeguard on this?

since i have opp on the other one

or get basic oppor on alps too

[outer wharf]

Virtuoso set is ass?

[long dove]

i wasted 10 exotic components on bluescreen trying to reroll dmg to armor only to find out CHC is way better cuz DTA doesn't work on chungus or warhounds and so on 🙁

[brazen otter]

OMFG.......

[teal ibex]

i kenw about this. even when accuracy/stab is near max on the gun it still happened.

aka nemesis

its not just snipers. same with rifles even

[teal ibex]

what talents is that 👀

[brazen otter]

I switched it to Flatline

[soft crane]

preservation i think

eh nevermind, thats thunderstrike

[teal ibex]

i got 4 lexingtons with 4 different talents lol. idk what to pick for it xD

which one 🥹

[calm summit]

I have 50+ keep as many as you cam if you upgrade to proto

[brazen otter]

How do u have 1020 RPM ???

[soft crane]

probably Striker

[teal ibex]

idk

[brazen otter]

For my build the best will be first one

HeartBreaker

[teal ibex]

using caretaker atm. is nice too

[robust yarrow]

How do you upgrade a Lexington to a prototype?

[brazen otter]

Guys, what is the best shotgun for stacking ??

[hazy steeple]

An item needs to be Expertise 30 for you to upgrade it to Prototype.
but you can loot a prototype item from an Escalation mission when you are at any Expertise Level.

[smoky latch]

Any ACS 12 archetype

[teal ibex]

im stuck on build basically. i cant make HF really work. or play it so to say.
heartbreaker idk.
the bleed OD build doesnt really punch as i expected as well. so im kinda at a loss rn lol

[hazy steeple]

If you're asking about Striker, give an SMG-9 w/ Unwavering a go. It's a hell of a time.

5 seconds of laser beam.

[brazen otter]

What about HearBreaker

[smoky latch]

Stack Broker if you wanna stack only, ACS-12 if you want to do damage along stacking. Talent: Brazen

[hazy steeple]

Not a fan of the gearset, but same principle, really.
IIRC shotguns are better for that for some reason.

[teal ibex]

what about bulwark sets?

[hazy steeple]

Tanks are....not all that useful in most of div2. The best way to survive is make enemies be dead, basically.

[teal ibex]

well i learned that too. yet without striker i feel like i dont do enough damage to ''kill before u get killed'' idea

[robust yarrow]

Thank you for the information

[calm summit]

guys i have a quick question, im running a striker build, mask, holster, back, knee, overdogs and equilizer, lexi etc. All reds. What are the recommended modifiers for this season. ? Im kinda new and im experiencing. I run this for the moment

[hazy steeple]

Give some of the builds in the 📌 pinned-message > "spreadsheet 2" > builds a go, you can find some good stuff.

@calm summit I found this somewhere

[lost gust]

for the 1886, i see most builds with dttoc and Determined. Would HS and Determined be significantly worse?

[calm summit]

You're awesome. Thanks

[smoky latch]

You'd do noticeably less damage

[hazy steeple]

dtooc is what you want on every gun as the 3rd attribute.
the only time you don't use dtooc is on LMG's, because they already have it. For those you use CHC.
dtooc is really generous in what it considers "out of cover". Unless an enemy is velcro'd to cover, you get a bonus.

[smoky latch]

Not the end of the world but you will notice in group play

[lost gust]

is that only the case if i miss my determined shots, or is damage calculated differently between the two stats?

[smoky latch]

You'll most likely have a bunch of HSD already so adding 10% on top of it won't have any significant effect. DTOC is a different multiplier in the damage calculation that helps you do more damage

[bold wing]

What does one want on their second GR9 for a double GR9 tipping scales with tinkerer as Talent? Frenzy + what else?

[lost gust]

ah, i see, thanks for explaining

[smoky latch]

If you use Fox's Prayer on top those two DTOC sources are additive with each other as well but you'll gain a higher damage benefit over HSD on your rifle

[teal ibex]

wot about hunter killer chest piece? bonus armor increases % in wep dmdg 🤔 good for tanky or regen builds?

[smoky latch]

Rather PvP than PvE

Regular Intimidate on a brand piece with useful intrinsic bonuses are a better choice

[summer totem]

Okay

[summer totem]

Personally frenzy and measured

[bold wing]

Perfect, thanks!

Just need to get the mats to proto my gloves and the GR9

[warm lagoon]

Best build for someone who doesn't pay attention to numbers or talents lol
Im trying to get my girl to do more damage, but she doesnt look at anything she picks up.
Whats a good build build i can set and forget? She's likes skills and the Pestilence. I was thinking CoCo, but when she plays solo im worried because it seems group dependant

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

[summer totem]

4 pc skill Core strength with memento then salvo, can either run 6 skill damage or crit damage and crit chance

Set modifiers to split utility, compress, then nullify

She'll be tanky while doing decent damage, if she enjoys using skills

[soft crane]

I suppose Refactor also works.

[warm lagoon]

Yea was trying different ways with core strength.
I have her in the 3 cs with picaors and ninja backpack. Her seeks are doing 4mil damage in the stat sheet. But the weapon damage with the capacitor is low lol

[summer totem]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=sharing

Like the guy said yee yee ahh strikers

Or tipping scales

[soft crane]

Core Strength in PvE is decent at best. Just go with Strikers or Tipping Scales. All she need to do is pull the trigger.

[warm lagoon]

She has a loadout with TS and blue screen. But she loves her seeker Mines lol

[summer totem]

Use tinkerer get gr9s and slap measured and frenzy on them

[summer totem]

You'll have to sacrifice other stats to achieve her Damage goal

Core strength is pretty much the ultimate hybrid build rn

[warm lagoon]

Yea. I appreciate the help everyone! Im gonna drop her skill damage and put more chc and chd

Should help with the AR damage

[summer totem]

Try out tinkerer with tipping scales

Use measured and frenzy if you have headshot modi, im pretty sure she'll deal 5 or 6 mil easily in data sheet

[warm lagoon]

Thank you! We will try it out

[soft crane]

#lfg-pc

[pallid jewel]

whats a good build for 100th floor summit legendary

(i have only been playing a few days so i dont know a lot of the abbreviations) but im almost lvl 1000

[summer totem]

You'd need a good team and strat for it

[pallid jewel]

so not soloable?

[long dove]

does the setup even drop with skill tier?

[summer totem]

In my experience no idk about the others.

[pallid jewel]

ahh ok thanks

i thought i was just terrible

[summer totem]

Me and a couple boys back did a strat where 3 of us spammed chem launchers and hives before starting

[hoary bay]

It's entirely luck based on what the hunters do, only repeatable way I've done is to rush top right and hope 1 either pushes you or goes down the middle and you can burn them. Gunner grenade will be your only form of CC. Bring a scorpio as back up incase they push up close but otherwise striker/TS with equalizer/OD is the usual way. Guns like pesti or iron lung will also stagger them, I usually use TS + iron lung

[fiery mantle]

High-End DPS Build

Specialization = Gunner

Primary Weapon = Lexington / Killer
Assault Rifle Damage
Health Damage
Damage to Unarmored Targets

Secondary Weapon = Dark Winter / Perfect Killer
Weapon Damage
MP Damage
Damage to Unarmored Targets

Pistol = Quick Step / Sport Mode
Weapon Damage
Pistol Damage
Damage to Unarmored Targets

Mask = Coyote Mask
Backpack = The Gift / Perfect Vigilance
Vest = Grupo Sombra S.A. / Obliterate
Gloves = Fenris Group AB
Holster = Providence Defense
Knee Pads = Providence Defense

(Critical Hit Chance / Critical Hit Damage)

Skills
Resurrector / Crusader Ballistic Shield

57% chance of critical hits
221% damage from critical hits

[fiery mantle]

If anyone else wants an RnG build, feel free to let me know, and I'll share that one too

[soft crane]

Not saying its a bad build but aside from Striker being easy to use, its also easy to build. Making a high-end build obviously takes longer than gearset.

[soft crane]

Whats an RnG build?

[smoky latch]

Nope

[fiery mantle]

You're absolutely right... but after a while, I'm sure some of you will want to really go all out ^^ I wanted to deal direct damage right from the start, three years ago... since someone asked which build I was talking about, I took the time to share it with you guys

[flint arch]

ah yes, going all out by becoming worse

[fiery mantle]

In my case, Run and Gun / Furious Hunter with Lady Death... On Heroic, you can wipe out everything even with just 32 bullets

[fiery mantle]

Interested?

[soft crane]

my dumbass thought its Random Number Generator

[soft crane]

eh maybe some other time

[fiery mantle]

That works for me—I can just go smoke ^^ But I'm doing it anyway—now you've got me hooked xD

[soft crane]

I recently made a similar build. Here you go.

Or if anybody asks about DPS build that doesnt require stacking, I'll just give them this.
The Stackless Strikers

[flint arch]

just use pvgc striker

[fiery mantle]

But the difference really lies in your gear... You're loose a lot of critical damage, and in my opinion, the gloves work better with the LMG because of the enemies' levels.

[soft crane]

whats pvgc striker again?

[ocean wyvern]

perfect vigilance/glass cannon with sacrifice and gift

[soft crane]

Sorry I keep forgetting

[fiery mantle]

But that's the beauty of the game—you can try so many different things, and in the end, everyone has fun

[ocean wyvern]

super high risk high reward unless you're just neo from the matrix

[pliant pelican]

is there any fun builds regarding Virtuoso? just gotten myself 4 set. prototype.

[soft crane]

I dont think its fun carrying people with bad builds they think its good all the time.

[fiery mantle]

With my playstyle, I often take a lot of damage—I don't like being a glass cannon

[ocean wyvern]

I'm in the same boat, I usually run equalizer for chest and the backpack I just run whatever fits the occasion

[fiery mantle]

Haha, then try Eskelation on Tier 5 and higher —haha, you've got everything you need there xD

[flint arch]

fun fact the reward isn't even that good, it will not beat standard striker with partial overdogs uptime

[soft crane]

Been trying to farm Lincoln Memorial with 5 directives today. My teammates running everything but actual pure DPS build.

[strong cave]

Important to note Fenris gloves are useless, as overdogs gives more than Coyotes. Also, going perfect glass would give even more damage than obliterate. In this case I would argue dropping Fenris for Salvo and using Overdogs gloves instead. Keep a Grupo piece

[tepid flume]

Does Wicked proc when u apply pulse? I'm trying to adjust my HB build a bit

[soft crane]

Literal random builds and mostly Core Strength.

[flint arch]

pulse is not a status effect

[smoky latch]

Not the basic pulse as that is not a SE

Banshee and Jammer Pulse do trigger it

[tepid flume]

Damn

[fiery mantle]

But I want to include assault rifle damage... it all adds up—I deal 1.4 million damage from the very first bullet, and sometimes even over 2 million damage. 🤷‍♂️

[misty walrus]

5min nba running set

[soft crane]

is this headshot build?

[fiery mantle]

I only use Overdogs in my LMG build because I'm firing off 260 rounds nonstop anyway with the Blue Screen

[misty walrus]

yes

[strong cave]

Yeah but that's pooling into 1 source. Salvo boosts rate of fire and comes with ROF. On any AR, your crits will be over capped. You can afford to lose 1 crit chance attribute taking salvo. It also boosts your burst DPS too, Fenris AR damage adds very little damage. Plus using Overdogs gives 30% Final amp

[soft crane]

How does it compare to the Hotshot variant?

[strong cave]

So you'd be better off increasing your burst DPS for any gun compared to just solely using an AR

[flint arch]

rifle is more mobile than MMRs

[soft crane]

whats the talent on backpack?

[fiery mantle]

I get what you mean... I've tried everything—really, everything—with raid leaders, and my current build makes me feel like a god... There are lots of options, but my build is the best for me, and nothing will improve it. I don't need fire rate because I can kill 3 enemies—sometimes 4—on Heroic with just one magazine using 3 Directives. 🙏

[strong cave]

If it works for you, it works for you. But difficulty doesn't stop at just Heroic. That specific build falls off after Heroic

Build advice is one of those channels where efficiency is offered as advice. Many advise striker does more because it's correct. And more efficient. High end is awesome, works great. But it's easily surpassed by striker quickly

I use a high end strega build myself. But always find myself dwindling back to striker bc it's more efficient

[fiery mantle]

In Legendary mode, I play my Legendary build with Protection from Elite, and I'm also invincible (at least when it comes to yellow enemies) I cruise through Legendary missions, and in Escalation I play the DPS build with just a decoy and the Grille, and it works even when I’m out of space. 16 builds are complete and 2 are 100% on Prototype—unfortunately, there’s no more room for new stuff, and no more exo resources to experiment with. After 3 years and nearly 8,000 SHD, you’ve reached the end of the game.🤷‍♂️

[grizzled garnet]

no

[strong cave]

I'm 19,700+ SHD myself since we are comparing levels

[inland hound]

my 4pc striker 2 pc unity alloy absolutely Fries in tier 5/6 escalations and legendary content (usually carrying 90% of the time)

[misty walrus]

i use blood sucker for survivability, as usual ppl tend to use vigilence for the 1st shot dmg

[sullen heart]

so how is MK 46 with frenzy vs something like Sleipnir thathas perfefct frenzy?

[soft crane]

ah ok thanks

[dusk obsidian]

Why not both? I have Striker for where enemies are tanky enough to make it worthwhile. Then I also have brand-based AR loadout for all other occasions. 🤷‍♂️

[fiery mantle]

Alright, guys, I just wanted to share my build because someone asked... I think we're all too far into the game to be giving each other tips here. Thanks anyway. I'm gonna go smoke a cigarette, listen to some Viking music, and head into Eskelation.
1love

[long dove]

so i just have to get the other stats then thnx

[grizzled garnet]

unfortunately so

[smoky latch]

Don't forget the mead!

[grizzled garnet]

for future reference the gear spreadsheet in the pins has a section about brandsets showing that their natural core attribute is

[fiery mantle]

Skal

[long dove]

Yea im seeing it rn and setup was yellow thats why

[smoky latch]

It's a semi-unicorn. You need the right attributes so you can roll the core to Utility

[inland hound]

proto setups are dropping at pentagon escalations today 👀 might get lucky

i've gotten 4 so far, all trash of course

[long dove]

The thing is im running technician so i got 6 skill tiers i can leave it as but i cant see wheres my skill repair in stats menu

[smoky latch]

You want Survivalist instead as specialization

[narrow iris]

Is red heartbreaker any good

[languid wasp]

Is there any 1pc bonus backpack that gives headshot or rifle damage

[smoky latch]

Two

Providence and Habsburg for HSD, Zwiadowka for rifle SWD

Check the first pin in this channel to get to a spreadsheet that shows all brand and gear set bonuses amongst many other useful infos

[stray spruce]

My stash is now full of gear sets, exoctics and high end. What do I do? Also it says 350/400 on the stash but won't let me put anything else in.

[long dove]

im following this one and i read both are same except difference is grenades in surv

[inland hound]

extra 50 could be a visual bug, becareful you could possibly "delete" items from existence

[long dove]

i still cant get a decent setup bp dismantled about 20 of them

[stray spruce]

What should I keep?

[inland hound]

run pentagon escalation or just pentagon in general. its dropping The setups as proto and non proto

[smoky latch]

The crossbow is situational but comes in goated.
I'd also suggest SH mods instead of more Repair Skills

[long dove]

i wish i could run escalation but i didnt even see whats that mode is

[inland hound]

exotics/named items. Gear sets are very easy to farm out via target loot (only keep the gear with max stats)

[long dove]

Skill haste?

[inland hound]

you could also just run the mission without escalation

[smoky latch]

Yes Skill Haste. You already heal more than enough with FI

But the cham launcher cooldown is super slow without a bit of SH

[inland hound]

crossbow you get 15% healing and 10% PFE, both very good

[long dove]

im currently at 47.9% sh

[inland hound]

and the "group members get 10% more bonus dmg to targets with status effect" aka scorpio go BRRRR

[long dove]

i still cant see wheres skill repair in stats

[hazy hull]

Is Ridgeway pride good for an OD crit build

[long dove]

this is what i managed so far, also my skills are without good mods

[inland hound]

go to your stat page and look at your skills at the bottom each skill tells you stats you get from haste/healing

it doesnt tell you your raw skill repair %, you kinda just gotta math it out.

[long dove]

is it the repair over time or ally repair? i thought its percentage

[inland hound]

yeah its annoying that it doesnt tell you the skill repairs % like i said, you will have to roughly Math out your %.

[long dove]

how?

[inland hound]

simple addition sadly, adding up all sources of skill repair. Watch/Mods/specilization/etc

basically why theres a guide with exact placements of mods to reach that 210% without question

[livid mica]

For a pretty standard AR strikers build, if I dont want to use overdogs, should I go with coyotoes or salvo consider I'm already using equalizer

[inland hound]

4pc striker 2pc unit alloy (equalizer + salvo)

its what i use for t5/t6 and legendary content. works like a dream.

[inland hound]

if your in a group you could slot coyotes just to buff your team, but its not needed.

[hazy hull]

Asking cause this is my current setup and I don't know if it's good or not

[lone wadi]

consider dropping ridgeways for tinkerer

[inland hound]

^^

[lone wadi]

its range restriction is really bad and you can use gunner banshee pulse or a foam chem to get the first status proc

[calm summit]

Guys you gain more xp in national bond full full party instead of going solo or is the same amount of xp ?

[hazy hull]

Ik

[inland hound]

just run solo, faster clear times. in and out 2-3 mins 5 levels each time.

[lone wadi]

whys it there then lol if yk

[hazy hull]

Meant to put Ok

[lone wadi]

ah

[inland hound]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[long dove]

ah then will follow it

[lone wadi]

also eyeless is a pretty useless talent to you can replace that with something else

[inland hound]

as a FI healer myself, i prefer crossbow due to flame grenades and the healing buffs and damge debuff it provides.

[lone wadi]

idk if they can use killer on rifles but pressure point is always safe

[slim tulip]

Anyone a idea if there is a way to make a good granate build?

[long dove]

i will test both

[inland hound]

throw flame grenades at the spawn doors or helicopters that spawn a new wave of enemy, they all get cc'd then lay waste into them with a scorpio (debuffing and stacking status effects) and boom. watch your dps melt them in seconds (if you have good dps players that is)

[grizzled garnet]

iirc survivalist grenades are best for proccing stuff like opportunistic and also at the same time give the survivalist buff against statused enemies

[lone wadi]

those do not proc opportunistic, you migth be thinking of sledgehammer

[grizzled garnet]

ah ye mb

im half asleep and multitasking 😩

[lone wadi]

:P

[hallow crane]

is 48% good enough crit chance for striker builds or should i be going for more? whats ideal?

[hazy steeple]

The hard cap is 60%, you want to get as close to that as you can without going over.

then pour the rest of the stats into CHD (crit damage).

[grizzled garnet]

"Note: For numbers you’re looking to get to is: with Coyote's 50-54% CHC | Without Coyote's closest to 60% CHC without going over cap of 60% | Then the rest into CHD."

[hazy steeple]

Well, Coyotes does depend on the gun you're using.
The 50-55 is for AR's. Just check the range of the buff you want, and the ideal range for the gun you're using. Easiest way.

[hallow crane]

for my build i chose overdogs but i only have 48% chc. ill just try and strive towards 60 percent then

[hallow crane]

i have the lexington 🙂 the gun everyone is going for

[hazy steeple]

You will get a free 10% CHC from your SHD Watch, you can factor that in to any future builds.

and of course: gun mods should be all CHC, and the +20 size mag for SMG/AR.

[hallow crane]

yeaaah thats what im banking on. once i max it out ill be very close towards that 60% mark

[grizzled garnet]

also if your build isnt minmaxed keep that in mind

[hallow crane]

yep all chc, but i dont have the 20 mag size yet im still tryna get that

[hallow crane]

will do, getting closer everyday

[hazy steeple]

Running Retal's is a great way to get it faster, since it's just CP clearing.

and you get to pick your Targeted Loot!

[hallow crane]

yeah i think they say that you have a chance to get it from clearing level 3 control points

[hallow crane]

so much better than farming for stuff on div 1 man

[hazy steeple]

yeah TL being added to div2 was a good day for sure.
Lvl 3 or 4 CP's both give a single Blueprint upon completion. Lvl 4's just have 1 named enemy each wave so

[hallow crane]

hopefully soon 🤞, thanks for the advice mate i really appreicate it

[violet saddle]

I just found this out yesterday but you can also choose your loot in the middle of retaliations, too

[hazy steeple]

Yep, same for Summit/Countdown.
TL is a wonderful little thing.

[brazen otter]

Is this mean that it doesn't matter on which distance is enemy, dmg will not drop ?

[junior lagoon]

what attributes are usabel on hunter killer?

[lone wadi]

lit shows you the dropoff in the graph below

[flint arch]

this means damage dropoff, not "damage drop is off"

[brazen otter]

Ohhh ok thx

[fiery mantle]

Good question
I’ve been wondering that for six years

[brazen otter]

)))

[fiery mantle]

The distance could be displayed more clearly – sometimes it looks the same for different weapons. A display in metres would be good, haha, but interns don’t think that far ahead, xD

A quick tip
There is, however, a mask that gives you incredible accuracy at long range – with it, you can shoot an SMG just like a sniper rifle

[glad pecan]

Need some advice on my current build

[smoky latch]

Switch Striker's chest with Equalizer

AR talent: Killer if solo, Measured/Back and Forth for group play

Gunner specialization, mostly for 10% AoK

Perhaps a basic ACS-12 with Brazen talent, or a SMG-9/Vector with Unwavering talent

[glad pecan]

If I could get good roll smg would’ve been in the shotgun spot

[glad pecan]

How could I level up my gunner fast

[fallow python]

Anyone have a good pestilence build please?

[flint arch]

pesti guide

[fiery mantle]

The Mask - Visionario with 50% Accurate

[inland hound]

Interesting question, I have 1.6% chance echo on my Lex, but it's not being calculated on this sheet with the rest of my gear. Is the lex echo a separate proc? Or is it added up to 10%+ and just not showing it. 👁️ 👄 👁️

[fiery mantle]

That isn't included in that count
It's a separate category, such as 'Talents'
Only attributes and weapon attachments are visible in the status screen

[inland hound]

so i could get 2 seperate procs of echo while shooting my gun? 👀

[fiery mantle]

Exactly, that’s the damage that ends up being added on top

[inland hound]

The echo augment doesnt even show up on the category with my weapon talent breakdown, so i've just been wondering where that proc is going

that is a very confusing and annoying scenario 👁️ 🫦 👁️

[fiery mantle]

It’s a bonus, not a talent

[lone wadi]

Nah pretty sure it’s just not being added. That happens for me as well. Sometimes the weapon shows up sometimes it doesn’t

also pretty sure you can’t get more than 1 echo procs in the same bullet

[inland hound]

yeah i was just lost thinking about "is it a 10.4% but not showing" or 2 seperate chances at doubles damage "8.8% and 1.6%"

[fiery mantle]

But that doesn’t change anything... How is the game supposed to know how much damage you’re dealing without you firing? That’s why the damage values have been adjusted in the settings to make them clearer; some players even have them displayed in the chat

Seriously, you don’t see any cumulative damage figures from Vigilance in your stats either

[lone wadi]

It’s the 10.4

[fiery mantle]

8.8% I see
As I said, it’s shown to you individually, but it isn’t included in the total... I didn’t express myself clearly

[lone wadi]

? What

[inland hound]

2.4% + 2.4% + 2% + 2% is the 8.8% all my armor, the lex is 1.6% and not shown.

[lone wadi]

the augments all add together. However many you have on gear + what you’re holding in your hand

[fiery mantle]

Just learn the game – what can I say? xD

[lone wadi]

yea idk what you’re on about

[fiery mantle]

All good

[trim matrix]

what are the best passive modifiers to get?

[fiery mantle]

Welcome in td2... That's the real game 😉 mathematic and physical therapy

[inland hound]

math is hard 👁️ 👄 👁️

[fiery mantle]

Mathematics is all there is – see the torus formula

No problem – there are those who just play, and those who want to understand it – but that’s exactly why we’re here to help; you don’t need to dissect the game down to the smallest detail … It’ll just drive you mad, but it’s addictive because you always want to go higher and test the limits🙏

[lusty sapphire]

Hey what’s up group what’s the best place to farm The Gift backpack?

[onyx sage]

dz, named cache, or farm the blueprint from reconstructed caches

[junior lagoon]

why do we want fox's prayer with skill damage?

[onyx sage]

for oxi

[lone wadi]

heres an example of the weapon augment being counted, the game is just weird ig of sometimes not including weapons on that page

[inland hound]

this broke ahh game 🫂

aint no way, i relogged put my lex in stash, took it out and now its adding it up.

[lone wadi]

lol

[inland hound]

👁️ 👄 👁️

lmao hold up

[lusty sapphire]

Ty

[inland hound]

look at that list, tell me whats wrong.

[lone wadi]

yeah i also had that happen before

[inland hound]

😭

[lone wadi]

haha

[inland hound]

double the mask, double the power less gooo

and the backpack lmao i was so stun locked i didnt even see the duped pack

[fiery mantle]

Luckyboy

[lone wadi]

lol i just made it happen

[inland hound]

15 minutes of just looking at the UI we out here finding visual bugs

sign me up as a play tester rite neow

[small junco]

Hey guys, I'm honing in on a Refractor set that I like, but I would like some advice before I start committing more resources to Expertise.

I was using Impestus+ Refractor backpack before this image, but enemies knock out my drone a lot (which ruins Momentum) and the backpack trait just benefits me, so I wanted to swap things around.

Is the One-Piece trait from Hana-U (10% Haste) better than Wyvern (8% damage)

I have Combined Arms on the backpack, is there something better?

Is the Investor a good pick? (I know it has one blue, I'll work on that when I have Exotic components to spare), or is there something better? Another Exotic, or the second piece of Hana-U/Wyvern?

[smoky latch]

I'd go with Impetus and Force Multiplier

Also the Harmony rifle instead of Lex

[fleet gulch]

I personally like the Refactor chest better than Impetus for solo play, you get a significant boost in healing.

[smoky latch]

OverhealZ. Not really needed

[dawn bane]

Is prophet okay as a pistol for a determined headhunter build ?

[grizzled garnet]

not really. youre better off running a harvest or 686 magnum with determined

perfect determined doesnt self procc which can be annoying

[dawn bane]

thanks!

[idle hawk]

worth running an exotic or going full Prototype?

[inland hound]

depends on the build and use of exotic

[idle hawk]

specifically overdog gloves

[inland hound]

you dont need to run it, im running a 4pc striker 2pc unit alloy thats all proto still hit hard af.

but i do have a build that has overdogs with proto striker still just incase i feel like using it. its all preference.

[idle hawk]

yea i flop back in forth myself, i like the 2piece UA

ok thanx

[inland hound]

yeee same, im going full echo with 2 trapper augments. full run-n-gun with banshee pulses

[idle hawk]

i like the sound of that

[idle hawk]

so you go with Equalizer over striker chest for higher tiers?

[inland hound]

other way around, if your doing tier 8+ i'd use the striker chest, below that i still use equalizer.

[idle hawk]

thats what i was thinkins as well, thanx

[inland hound]

at the end i should be like at like 15% for echo 30% duration increase to status effects

cant wait for it, alot of xp to go for gear

[onyx sage]

ngl and i know it sounds completely crazy, i've had better success with GC than striker chest at tier 8+

[inland hound]

i could see that in ways, if you get full agro and just lose stacks for a bit

[onyx sage]

i struggle getting 200 stacks going from gr9 to mk46, maybe it'd be better if i stuck to gr9

[inland hound]

GC would be more consistent dmg wise, and i love the gr9 too much to swap off it

[onyx sage]

yeah

[teal ibex]

whats so good bout the gr9

[flint arch]

gr9 w/ frenzy on striker syncs perfectly, as in frenzy expires as soon as the mag (w/ no mag mods) is emptied

[teal ibex]

aha.
yea im lvling named weapons. 😑 tryed to look at spreadsheet but phone wont let me xD

[fierce ether]

Guys where can i see what is the best third stat for each weapons in pve?

[fair dragon]

General rule, applies to most weapons, is Damage to Targets Out of Cover (DtTOoC)

[small junco]

This build is primarily for group play, I use a Bluescreen Striker build for everything else.

[smoky latch]

You can run it solo as well but the chest is really only needed in edge situations

[fierce ether]

Yes but LMG for example has DMG to target out of covet as secondary stat

[smoky latch]

LMGs CHC

[fierce ether]

So, where can i see the best third stat for all weapons?

[smoky latch]

We just told you:

1. DTOC for anything
2. LMGs CHC (since they come with DTOC)

[fierce ether]

K ty!

[small junco]

Ok. Both chats I asked in both recommend other gear for the backpack and chest slot over the Refractor pieces

[fair dragon]

with ONE exception. You must put Mag size on Bullet King or else it won't work!

[smoky latch]

Impetus chest, Force Multiplier backpack

That nets you the most SD

[small junco]

Force Multiplier being the named Hana U. Ok, I'll use the unnamed one for now until I get it

[smoky latch]

Someone created a template for a "hybrid" version which doesn't work so well IMO. It uses a Ceska chest with GC and Memento backpack. Might as well be a DPS build cuz you don't do much WD and neither SD

[exotic talon]

if i were to make a 3pc core strength 2pc hotshot ninjabike build, would it be more beneficial to go for red or yellow cores to minmax damage and skill stats

[ocean wyvern]

What's the best route for a headhunter rifle build?

[smoky latch]

This is good:

[fair dragon]

Refactor is, in 99% of the cases, hybrid anyway

[smoky latch]

If you mean due to Force Multiplier, that is one way to see it. Might as well take Tech Support as backpack talent and it'll work

[fair dragon]

That and due to my pedantry, anything that requires the use of a weapon in a skill build makes it a hybrid.

[smoky latch]

Lol that is rather subjective

[fair dragon]

gives me the shit when people claim "Refactor is so OP, I carried the team" then in the summary screen it shows their weapon did half the damage.

[smoky latch]

Capacitor and Harmony, ofc. I get what you're saying but it feels odd to me calling it a hybrid

[normal shadow]

Can't fling a build off the top of my head that wouldn't use a gun.

[urban latch]

Its my new least favorite build to see people running because they are always convinced how useful they are being

[fair dragon]

whether you use your weapon or not, it's a choice. so a skill build can become a hybrid and vice versa.

for sure, a skill build can be more effective with the use of weapons, and it's often implied that weapons are to be used in a skill build, but that's where I draw the line. just like hybrid EVs, just because they run on pure EV mode under a certain speed threshold, doesn't make it a pure EV; it's still a hybrid.

[lone glacier]

Guess by that logic Striker is also hybrid because I use a banshee and reviver

[fair dragon]

is your Striker a skill build?

[lone glacier]

No, but I use skills

[fair dragon]

how is banshee and reviver hive gonna kill?

[lone glacier]

it helps me kill.

[fair dragon]

so it's not a skill build

[normal shadow]

I really don't understand that logic, so I'll just drop it.

[lone glacier]

just like shooting a weapon while using refactor tor things to die quicker.

[normal shadow]

Foam CC is a skill build but needs a gun because will not kill on it's own.

[fair dragon]

perhaps I should clarify even further that it's about skill DPS build?

or the intention behind it.

like a Refactor build is intended to heal and kill, while CC or Healer isn't

[frosty oasis]

GodTier Build for Escalation & anything else? Backfire Proto with Investor mask. 100% Hazpro. 60% CHC. 1.1M Armor & 27K Regen. Over 1.4M bodyshot & over 1.6M headshot. Backfire dmg: 144K. Augments: 2 Echo, 3 Paradox.

[lone glacier]

T6+
4pc Striker, Hollowman, Ceska gloves works. Or instead of Ceska gloves Overdogs.

[fair dragon]

how does Backfire work in Escalation? you don't have to worry about bleed anymore?

[urban latch]

all those wasted exotic components on haz pro....

[frosty oasis]

Raucey, id make you mad in an escalation match 🤣😂

[lone glacier]

That build wont hold up in t9/t10s

[fair dragon]

oh a hazpro build (skull emoji)

[urban latch]

its not going to hold up well before that

[next dawn]

cooked

[frosty oasis]

it does in T8, better than any all red build

[fair dragon]

it's not cooked, it's burnt

[lone glacier]

I highly doubt it does better than the 4pc striker with chest and backpack..

[urban latch]

I mean... no.....

[smoky latch]

Bro, don't make my eyes bleed

[frosty oasis]

manning zoo t5, dogwalked a busted mortar skull build. Its laughs at every full proto lexington build ive seen & thats the "meta"

[next dawn]

shd level 30k

[smoky latch]

RIP

[frosty oasis]

Shd level means nothing. im 4K over 5k Commendation. Either way, the dmg n Survivability speaks for itself. No other all red build hits for what i can hit for & have over 1m armor with 27K armor regen

[urban latch]

for escalation its pretty dominated by MK46 frenzy

[lone glacier]

A Striker build hits for more than your build 💀

[fair dragon]

why you threw a mortar build under the bus for no reason 😭 it's never even been meta

[sullen heart]

is MK 46 frenzy better over sleipnir that has perfect frenzy?

[lone glacier]

Sleipnir is a MG5, so smaller mag

[frosty oasis]

No it doesnt. Instead of trying to hate on this build, look at the stats of the build lmfao. Not one build has beat me in a single escalation. Not saying its the best but its factually a god-tier build

[lone glacier]

Buddy your 100% hazpro and 1.1M armor dont matter when you get healthgated by one shot..

[fair dragon]

"factually" 😂

[frosty oasis]

Cus dude ran it like a nut & he held up, but i did the most come the end of the match. This is a solid build for those wanting something else. For those dogging it, id just hurt your feelings😂🤣

[urban latch]

Its been pretty clear to people for awhile that you really dont want/need haz pro on backfire, but you also really dont want smg range for escalation

[fair dragon]

wow, because everyone goes into a mission and turn it into a DPS contest like you

[pulsar burrow]

So heartbreaker tech tank build with a Lexington. What mag should I throw on it? I tried using the one that gave me CHD, but kept having this thing where it would load like only half the mag. The +20 size -10% reload speed felt better.

[lone glacier]

always +20 size

[frosty oasis]

I never struggle with my build. Also, i dont get one shotted at all. T6 the only one-shot would be a sniper. But with my regen & a healer, that t6 is easy. Now, T7 & up i need a solid healer

[urban latch]

wait you have regne instead of haz pro....

[lone glacier]

he has 100% hazpro and 27k regen

[frosty oasis]

No, but escalation requires savage dps lol or everyone gets swarmed. Tanks are useless, ive seen it time & time agaib

[urban latch]

rofl

[fair dragon]

the hazpro comes from passive modifiers?

[lone glacier]

Build will fall flat the moment he tries t8+

[fair dragon]

for sure

[lone glacier]

not even a full prototype'd FI healer will be able to help

[next dawn]

lol

[lone glacier]

There's a reason why you see 4pc striker 100% of times in high tier escals..

[next dawn]

Escalations is a renamed damage check 🙂

[frosty oasis]

Ive done SEVERAL T8. the fact people act like they "know" how the build holds is wildly laughable

[fair dragon]

the way you're promoting your build makes me not want to try your build

[urban latch]

listen, if you come in and try to sell a clearly bad build as "GODTIER" your going to get dunked on here

[frosty oasis]

That regen is what stops me from dying & relying on heals / kits & my dmg is enough to smoke an elite on T6 & T7.

Ran it all but T10. Past T6 requires a savage healer, esp depending on the mission

[lone glacier]

Oh you had a healer too.. yeah that explains it

[frosty oasis]

On T7, all your armor is useless cause the dmg isnt there.

[urban latch]

I mean most groups in higher tiers run a healer, but thats also the reason that haz pro is useless

[inland hound]

ive ran multiple t8-10's without healers, just 4 pure dps and we never wiped or gotten close to wiping

[frosty oasis]

Lol. Sucks it aint crossplay id show you 😂🤣

[urban latch]

Im more commenting on the haz pro and backfire

[fair dragon]

you could show us in a clip or YT

[urban latch]

and general tone of the original comment lol

[frosty oasis]

Backfire is phenomenal, people like you who say that bring an Elmos & an unpolished Proto build & wonder why you only do "positive" damage

[urban latch]

I want to see this in action

[urban latch]

In stuff like the incursion, 100%, but you also dont run it with haz pro

[pulsar burrow]

What does positive mean?

[fair dragon]

okay we get it, Backfire good. but show us some proof

[frosty oasis]

i average ober 100 kills pn every T5 & T6 mission, well past negative dmg. Hella revives & it all

[fair dragon]

wow so pro, i bow

[frosty oasis]

GG dingus

[urban latch]

past negative damage isnt impressive in high tier escalation, everyone should be doing that and cycling around back to positives again....

[frosty oasis]

🤣😂🤘

[fair dragon]

you didn't come here with good intention, and we don't find the need to return the same energy

[next dawn]

Average 12 year old behavior...

[gaunt chasm]

[fair dragon]

can't wait for crossplay

[subtle bluff]

Wtf did I scroll through......

[next dawn]

dont worry bout it

[urban latch]

GODTIER build content

[next dawn]

but look at this build and tell me how to fix it:

[urban latch]

start over

[next dawn]

i say throw it away

[subtle bluff]

💀 I'm gonna go back to being an adult...

[next dawn]

XD

[hearty crag]

do yall know if i can stil get big AJ? i didnt play during the event 🙁

[next dawn]

Should be in the general loot pool, set targeted loot to lmg

[hearty crag]

alright thank you

[lone glacier]

I hope you didn't read the last few minutes.. 💀

[flint arch]

7 proto cores

[next dawn]

Lol

[smoky latch]

Burn it with fire

[next dawn]

XD

[subtle bluff]

I saw a 🐧 and a 🐐 making faces like 😵‍💫

[fair dragon]

eh? wasn't me

[lone glacier]

🫂

[uneven forge]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1SAsZoZNPdfnhdWCoEwR4U224kqtae4e2OqcBMjux7Ww/edit

Ive been following this build but i dont really understand how it should work, should i use the white death to kill stuff or shroud? I noticed that even without much stacks shroud deals a lot of damage with the talent

[lone glacier]

You can use both

but technically youd keep using white death due to determined

Like Nemesis/Shroud to start the chain -> switch to white death to keep going

[flint arch]

generally you use shroud at the start of combat to get a headstart on your headhunter stacks, and then you swap to white death

[uneven forge]

Oh, its doesnt loose stacks on weapons swap? I had no idea

[lone glacier]

but you can also just use 2x HE MMRs with Determined

[flint arch]

it will adjust to the weapon damage of your current gun though

[ocean wyvern]

no, the damage ceiling will change depending on the gun equipped though

[uneven forge]

Ive seen an image that is a guide to enemy tiers / icons, but i dont think i really get it. A named with the normal (arrow up) symbol is low tier?

[halcyon sentinel]

for alps set what need to keep?

[smoky latch]

Chest and backpack at most, don't really need it anymore

[lone wadi]

glove

[halcyon sentinel]

and what the stat?

[lone wadi]

skill haste n repair

[smoky latch]

God roll, SR and SH so you can roll whatever talent you need

[halcyon sentinel]

oky

[ocean wyvern]

so that would be an assault mob, there's a list on the division reddit with links to the icons and their respective names

it helped me understand the hierarchy a little bit more for stuff like shroud and overdogs

[uneven forge]

Thats the list im talking about, so basically the only thing that matters is the icon not the veterancy right?

[ocean wyvern]

correct, veterancy just determines health and armor and veterancy related effects (i.e. Protection from Elites), but shroud/overdogs care about the symbol itself

[uneven forge]

Ok, thanks a lot mate

[ocean wyvern]

no problem

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages scroll down on it.

[halcyon sentinel]

why do i feel like elmo have better dps than lexi just because of more bullets?

[solar sable]

There are different DPS categories: Sustain/Burst/Mag

if you want to check by yourself, try using this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FaDDfFIqOgdTfceG2ByFvmgStZ6K7whC-7LdND6WXL0/edit?gid=1681449641#gid=1681449641

make a copy of the sheet btw

[halcyon sentinel]

of those 3 which one usually matter more in pve?

[solar sable]

IIRC Sustain and Burst

[subtle bluff]

They don't need to but it's better too

[lone glacier]

It doesn't because Elmo lacks a damage talent

[halcyon sentinel]

That true, but the problem was i cant test killer in lexi in range

[exotic talon]

lexi having to reload more often probably gives elmo the edge for burst
but lexi will eventually do better

[smoky latch]

It's rather the other way around

Plus it depends what damage talent you have on your Lexi

[subtle bluff]

They all matter to a degree. It's about finding a good balance between all of them.
Tac Vector 9mm vs SMG9 basically.
All burst but lacks on the other too.

[exotic talon]

wouldnt measured be the only one that helps burst dps

killer requires a kill + rng, strained only ramps up near the tail end of the mag

[subtle bluff]

Measured 1st 1/2 actually is all burst.

[fierce ether]

Maybe optimist as talent?

[smoky latch]

Just by base damage already

[subtle bluff]

It's the same as strained more or less.

[fierce ether]

Mmm i have mine with killer, dumno if i should change

[exotic talon]

strained and measured are more consistent but killer is pretty strong, especially when playing solo

[smoky latch]

Strained would make more sense on a LMG due to higher uptime

You barely get full benefit of it on a fast firing AR like Lex (on Striker's mostly)

And I know what I'm talking about cuz my god rolled Lexington has Strained on it 😭

[lone glacier]

What's the difference between the MMR and 1886 oneshot build? Nothing?

[woeful chasm]

Takes 2 years and 59 months for the MMR build to become accurate after sprinting.

[dense roost]

How's the Cartaker as compared to the Lexington? Is perfect killer enough of a difference maker to consider it?

[urban latch]

1886 is a rifle, so gearsets that give MMR damage dont apply, and you dont have the HSD from second slot, you so need more on the build

HH HF is really good with the 1886, you can play super aggressive with it

[smoky latch]

It's not as accurate

Mid-long range the G36 is meh

[dense roost]

lexi just feels so good to shoot ugh

[smoky latch]

Laz0r

[dense roost]

fr

[torpid bramble]

What’s the best solo build for heroic retaliations

[smoky latch]

Full red Striker's IMO

[lone glacier]

Damn, yeah too lazy to set that up for now lmao

[junior lagoon]

If no offensive modifiers red builds if offensive modifiers blue builds

Currently red builds

[urban latch]

just red

[junior lagoon]

If you are new to heroic retals
You will die with red builds

Solo that is

[urban latch]

theres no single best build, but its definetly not blue

[merry stone]

is fi the best heal gear set?? and the best skill is chem launcher for heals?

[urban latch]

yes to both

[stone python]

A lucky agent got this proto Max rolled 75% reduced threat dannng

[merry stone]

what about hive and mines for healing?? also besides fi set and btsu gloves whats the 6th good piece?

[urban latch]

you want hive, itll give passive healing, but the main reason is for BTSU OCs

oppertunistic backpack, ideally setup

[shy willow]

You can show me sometime

Had my fair share of escalation trauma so would be good to have a decent squad mate

[merry stone]

bittersweet is good weapon no?? or doc home?

[urban latch]

for a healing build? youll want scorpio and lefty

[woeful peak]

hows this build?

so far its been able to handle master and legendary pretty decently (im also bad)

[drowsy escarp]

I'm a returning player. I just wanted any help on building a strong dps build with the addition of status effects, also. Greatly appreciated in advance

[woeful peak]

should i get Ouroboros or or whatever, or should i get coyoties?

[subtle bluff]

Umbra isn't that great for either. Controlling the uptime of umbra isn't easy and a lot effort.

[woeful peak]

Uh… its pretty easy for me >.>

I dont wanna make a basic striker build, i see 90% players run strikers, and its boring

Just my opinion, but thanks for advice

[astral nexus]

I’ve been running core so far. Not sure I want to get off it

[woeful peak]

looking for constructive advice

[solar sable]

there's more than just Strikers btw, and Umbra really isn't in that list

[woeful peak]

shall i screenshot my next 10 countdown lobbies? point is i just want constructive advice