td2-build-advice

[quiet plinth]

so a lex with a mag of 45 with its 1020 rpm would prefer measured then

[pallid spoke]

Usually, High mag high rof weapons. High mag allows more bullets to benefit per 10% increments, high rof lets you cycle through bonuses faster.

[pallid spoke]

yes

as opposed to strained that is

[soft crane]

ok so, M249 for Striker build, which one the best? 150 round mag.

Strained, Measured, or Optimist?

[smoky latch]

Frenzy 😬

[pallid spoke]

Frenzy for sure, but out of those 3, Strained

M249 has a very low ROF, so hitting 2.5 sec ramp up is no problem. It'll take around 25 rounds to hit all 5 stacks, which leaves you 125 to benefit the 50% CHD bonus

[subtle bluff]

@smoky latch should added to striker guide with escalation or make a escalation meta guide?

[pallid spoke]

Measured and Optimist is hard set at 50% and 10% increments, respectively, regardless of mag size. It'll take longer to hit those peaks because of the low ROF

[livid sorrel]

assuming i'm interpreting this right measured > strained > optimist

[lone wadi]

is 850rpm considered low

[smoky latch]

I think it would make sense since Escalations will be a core part of the (end)game now. If you have time, of course

[pallid spoke]

Might be thinking of the wrong LMG if M249 has 850

not online right now so this is all memory

If it's 850 then flip everything I said around

[smoky latch]

Your info may be outdated. LMGs were adjusted a while back

M249B and MK46 have 850 RPM now

[pallid spoke]

yeah, probably. Alot of my memory stats are based on the game from like 3 years ago lol

I usually need to check ingame for up to date shit

In fact, bluejob proves my point in terms of stats

based on the screen shot they posted

[smoky latch]

The pinned spreadsheet has some good info

[livid sorrel]

? it's consistently the same order no matter the gun

[pallid spoke]

Every AR with lower ROF does better with strained, though within a small margin.

Now extrapolate to high mag sizes that LMGS have

[livid sorrel]

ah lmg gimme a sec

[pallid spoke]

Though I guess honestly, the margins are so small it might as well be based on personal preference

Or jsut go with frenzy

[livid sorrel]

strained better with +50 round mag, measured better with rof mag

or yeah just frenzy lmfao

[pallid spoke]

lol

[last schooner]

which weapon benefits most from expertise? Vector?

I'm guessing small mag/high RPM wpns?

[livid sorrel]

expertise is just a weapon damage bonus, they all benefit the same

[pallid spoke]

yep, they all benefit the same amount since it's percentage based.

[last schooner]

yeah fair enough, I'd just think a SMG would benefit more then say, MMR.

since MMR dmg is already crazy high w/HH

[pallid spoke]

I mean if we're accounting for specific builds and talents, then sure, smgs would benefit more in this instance

But you can never have enough 0s behind your damage number

[merry stone]

insane it took devs years to make a good lmg gear set lol

lmg were subpar for so long and now so many options plus big ale plus tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

no they weren't.. They've always been powerful. Just the issues with LMG is the suppressing.

[pallid spoke]

Dunno what you're talkin bout. LMGs haven't been bad since Bullet King was released. TS just made is better.

😛

[fleet gulch]

For skill damage builds, is there a general consensus as to whether Test Subject or Harmony is the better weapon?

[lone wadi]

uhh capacitor?

[pallid spoke]

Lol yeah, capacitor is pretty much the goto

[smoky latch]

Capacitor/Harmony good combo

[noble anchor]

Good?

[fleet gulch]

@lone wadi @pallid spoke @smoky latch Putting Capacitor aside, I'm asking solely between Test Subject and Harmony.

[solar sable]

is it for Escalation? Drop turmoil

[noble anchor]

Mine is full proto though so it’s better

[smoky latch]

Omg prototype Turmoil 🫠

[subtle bluff]

Either it's players choice.

[subtle bluff]

Not really

[noble anchor]

4p proto striker coyote mask and turmoil

[solar sable]

just because you have almost full proto doesn't mean your build is better than anything else

[solar sable]

answer my question, is it for Escalation?

[pallid spoke]

Same perfect talent. At that points it's all preference

[noble anchor]

For everything

[smoky latch]

I had to take a screenshot of proto Turmoil 🙈

[subtle bluff]

seee if it's better

[solar sable]

Strikers chest won't help at all "for everything".

[noble anchor]

Ik Once I get a proto oblibirate fenris I’ll switch it

[solar sable]

omg... why fenris?

[noble anchor]

10% ar dmg

[smoky latch]

Why firewall spec/Striker shield with an all red build?

[pallid spoke]

Using a proto Walker Harris chest with max core and echo myself

[fleet gulch]

Is it really? If you MUST give an answer as to whether one is better than the other, it's impossible?

[pallid spoke]

and obliterate

[noble anchor]

Firewall has an op armor kits

[solar sable]

SWD isn't... why do you want AR dmg instead of crit?

[lone wadi]

it wouldve been test subject if they didnt make rifles automatic cus my fingers get tired

but it really doesnt matter now that they did

[pallid spoke]

I mean, I guess Harmony for the sole fact it has more mods slots

[smoky latch]

Goated for PvP but irrelevant for PvE

[noble anchor]

Femris crit chance and crit dmg With oblibirate is the best possible chest you could for an ar build

[solar sable]

no it isn't, never was and never will

[smoky latch]

Negative

[solar sable]

I'd prefer having my build not being crit starved just because I think SWD is better

[noble anchor]

What’s SWD?

[solar sable]

Specific Weapon DMG

[noble anchor]

Well fenris gives AR dmg And all I use is pretty much ars

[smoky latch]

What do you think Striker's gives you?

[noble anchor]

100% dmg

[smoky latch]

If you focus on one damage bucket too much it'll impact your DPS not by much. Focus on other damage buckets that lack in a build such as crits here

[noble anchor]

Till me chest p that’s better then fenris then

[smoky latch]

TLDR your 10% SWD are cute but not useful. Focus on crits

[solar sable]

I think he's going Fenris bc he feels like Coyote's will suffice his build being crit starved

Maybe I'm wrong

[smoky latch]

Česká and even Equalizer over Fenris in your build

[noble anchor]

Equalizer gives 5% rpm While fenris gives 10% dmg

[smoky latch]

It's about its talent, 5% RoF are a little side bonus

[solar sable]

it's not about the bonuses...

well yes but that doesn't matter here, P. Obliterate will be better than Fenris Obliterate

[noble anchor]

Ye perfect oblibirate donsnt do it much of a difference it’s only 3% or 4% more dmg

[solar sable]

Brother, each DMG bucket acts different.

[smoky latch]

And the RoF increase

Not in terms of damage but DPS increase

Your Fenris chest isn't the best choice here

[noble anchor]

The only times I use the equalizer is on my hybrid striker build that has ninjabike

[smoky latch]

OFC NBB

[solar sable]

TWD is a multiplier in the DMG equation
SWD is summed with AWD a-

nah I'm out

[smoky latch]

Take a look at this

Try your build with Equalizer and Česká then compare to Fenris, you'll see the difference yourself

[lone wadi]

there is a chinese idiom called by the words of 'playing the lute to a cow'

which is pretty fitting lol

[noble anchor]

Whatever proto i get 1st I’ll put it on my build

[solar sable]

so you'll put on a Wyvern chest?

[noble anchor]

Fenris or equalizer

[solar sable]

then it's not whatever

[noble anchor]

What ever proto version of thim that drops 1st with double crit I’ll put it on my build

[solar sable]

you was right 🥴

[smoky latch]

You can upgrade items too in case you didn't know

[noble anchor]

You mean convert items to prototypes right

[smoky latch]

Yessir

[noble anchor]

I could do that but all my resouces will be gone

[lone wadi]

just lvl shd watch for more

or wait a week for double optimization material

[smoky latch]

Watch leveling is best for materials

[noble anchor]

The exotic components are the problem

[lone wadi]

well... better get to key farming then

[smoky latch]

1000%

[noble anchor]

They made prototypes easy to drop Soo I’ll just farm whatever escalation misson with fenris or the ather brand that’s for equalizer

[smoky latch]

Alright

[flint arch]

bike with ninjas arghhhhhhhh 🤢

[merry stone]

overdogs is so damn good if you can read the classes.. lol

[smoky latch]

Even if you don't stick to it it's decent

[flint arch]

you trigger overdogs more often than not even if you completely ignore its mechanics

if i use them i just bias my target prioritization towards tier 3 enemies

i don't have all the archetypes memorized but its more than enough

[merry stone]

its insane how fast it melts non-npc units like bts med kit gen, skills, controller vehicles

too bad stupid warhounds are tier 1

[flint arch]

just shoot their legs

[merry stone]

even if the red joint isnt there??

[livid sorrel]

red joint only stuns them, but the legs are always the weakpoint

[flint arch]

their legs always have no armor plating

it's comical how much less of a threat they become once you learn this

and also an emp sticky will immediately disable them long enough for you to eventually shoot it

[merry stone]

💀 🤯 😵‍💫 bruh i have been warhoundingmaxx the wrong way all these years??

[finite basin]

Thought that was common knowledge 😭

[merry stone]

naw dawg i didnt know 🥺 😵‍💫

[finite basin]

Its okay i love you

[next creek]

what would be the bes talent on a lexi, standard overdogs strikr build - killer, streamlined, strained?

[onyx sage]

killer, measured, back and forth

[smoky latch]

RIP HB mask

Why would you spend so many exo comps on this mid item?

[quartz carbon]

working on a good armor build so its wort the increased crit damage

32crit hit damage onto of whatever i stack it with

[subtle bluff]

Did you watch the clip I posted above? That should show you the build difference amount.

[fleet gulch]

So...I don't need to touch this at all right?

And with that in mind, is there anything else worth trying to get from the event gear caches instead of donating keys?

[dawn perch]

Another standard FI healing build. But i am too lazy to roll off the blue core on the chill out mask. Any other suggestions.

[lone wadi]

why not just use an alps piece instead

dont need to roll away yellow and its more stats lol

and lets u use survivalist

weapons scorpio and lefty to proc sledgehammer

[solar sable]

electrique instead of gila

[dawn perch]

Doesn't chill out mask give you more repair skill?

[solar sable]

FI gives so much heals already

[lone wadi]

alps brand bonus is 18 is it not

[lone wadi]

status effects?

[dawn perch]

Doesn't the mods give 20%? I can't check at the moment.

[lone wadi]

oh you might be right

[subtle bluff]

It 20

The issues with over spec'ing into repair your Skill Haste is very low.

[lone wadi]

but you should still swap for t6 skills

[subtle bluff]

You can recharge your skill fast enough.

[dawn perch]

I do have some hive efficiency as well though. (Yes, i use hive as aiming with god damn chem launcher is pain)

[subtle bluff]

You'd just burn thru all of your heals and do nothing with them.

[exotic talon]

isnt btsu glove better for healing since birdie wants you to revive people instead

[dawn perch]

Techinically could make chillout mask with 3 haste mods then

[subtle bluff]

That's what like 40? Then BTSU is 90 skill haste...

[subtle bluff]

Then you may has well use Alp or Hanna U

[lone wadi]

thats true.... standard would be the setup + btsu. birdies more for escalation + btsu hotswap

[subtle bluff]

Hence 90% Skill Hive Haste

Which is a Very noticeable.

[solar sable]

so his scorpio lasts longer

[dawn perch]

I do both mostly.

[exotic talon]

doing both mostly isnt very viable on higher difficulties you either want to keep people alive or be a glorified revive hive

[lone wadi]

isnt that dependant on the amount of pellets you hit and not your status effects

[solar sable]

fk ur right

[lone wadi]

i wish you were right

[dawn perch]

I able to do it in master mode and leggies with a similar build.

[lone wadi]

thatd be so nice

[subtle bluff]

I can do the same but support the team to do more cleanly and them not going down.

But also as mentioned anyone can use Birdies.

Support seem simple there's a ton of nuances.

[noble anchor]

Use it for materials

[dawn perch]

Both btsu and birdie are good exotics. I prefer using birdie as i could more easily sprint to downed ally. But btsu glove give a lot of value with hive though.

I might just have loadout for that

[dawn perch]

Wait sledgehammer?

[haughty harness]

Isn't First bloom really strong

The talent outputs alot of free damage and is always up

[lone wadi]

when enemies get dmg from ur gernade, they take extra damage from all sources

[storm prairie]

Can someone suggest a tank build for Master difficulty? I’m a beginner, so I want to make a tank build to be useful

[fair dragon]

Its not gonna be useful

[subtle bluff]

In Div2 we have only one things that holds agro for only a single target. Otherwise you can't hold threat to be an affected tank.

[storm prairie]

ohh

[storm prairie]

So wouldn’t that be useful? What build is better for master dif ?

[fair dragon]

DPS with a little bit of PFE mods, thats as far as I would go in terms of being tanky

[mellow flint]

yall see the maintenance thing too right

[fair dragon]

Yeah but im not seeing any announcements about it

Best part of it is it will send a certain group of players into Panic Mode, whether it may or may not directly affect them

[noble pelican]

Playing tanky is only really useful if you want to sacrifice (potentially a ton of) time to ensure a clear.

Everything endgame related is either pure damage (mostly Striker setups), or supports providing regen and strong damage buffs (or debuffs).

[cerulean crane]

Anyone got like a cool fun ridgeways pride build? I like wanna pair it up with maybe lavoisier to get some kind of status build. Im not the biggest fan of gear sets so prefer not to use them but if needed its needed i guess anyone got some nice suggestions always welcome!

[storm prairie]

okey

[subtle bluff]

It's not really good Exo chest..

[storm prairie]

tysm for info

[flint arch]

sir it's spelled skill tier

🥺

[subtle bluff]

DOh

[flint arch]

also +1 chem ammo is better than haste i suppose

[mystic matrix]

is there a good rifle build that can run escalations above 5 ? or an MP build ?

[subtle bluff]

???

[subtle bluff]

No. Rifle aren't good at DPS weapon in general. There only one real meta for +5 Escalations

[flint arch]

no like i was originally wondering if it was better to have a haste or ammo mod on the chem launcher so seeing the image cleared it up for me

[mystic matrix]

and whats the meta for +5 ?

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

[subtle bluff]

There soo much to stop out forthis.. D=

[outer wharf]

Is TS UC15 just not good for DPS?

[soft crane]

uc15?

[subtle bluff]

Very low Burst DPS.

Even that build vs #td2-build-advice message Rifle OD is pretty bad.

[vivid jolt]

what website is this, looks slick

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages on the bottom of it or my bio

Oh... That one..

That outdated atm.. Since FI hasn't changed for a long time this still works.

[vivid jolt]

Thanks, appreciate it

[exotic talon]

why ceska instead of overdogs? for full proto?

[subtle bluff]

I need to put the other pic in

Both are good but a full team of Overdogs isn't good

[subtle bluff]

added a fixed... There so much to go thru. Striker guide needs a lot more put into it just been really busy.
My English makes it really hard to focus on update these guides.

[exotic talon]

do shotguns display total damage or per pellet damage in the inventory

[lilac harbor]

Total damage when all pellets hit

[vivid jolt]

won the lottery yesterday on my lex

[exotic talon]

after a relog too?

[vivid jolt]

yesssir

[exotic talon]

god damn

[left sparrow]

Would this be good for blue screen?

[radiant eagle]

is there a striker build that does not die easily?

[subtle bluff]

OD Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?usp=sharing

[exotic talon]

your two options for survivability with striker are

• making your build significantly worse
• getting good at the game

as for your question, exodus gloves or blue core striker

[subtle bluff]

Why You Should Run 6 Red Cores

[radiant eagle]

got it, cover is life it is 🤣

[exotic talon]

learn to peek around tall cover without taking cover

[subtle bluff]

Cover and LoS

Skills can be helpful too

[radiant eagle]

reading it now, just in time for mainte ^^ thanks,
is there a good build for true patriot?

[shy willow]

No

[ashen maple]

if you need survivability just make an aegis tank

with provocator chest

[versed summit]

really not worthwhile

[shy willow]

Throw on memento and fuggedaboutit

[ashen maple]

it actually is

not everyone wants to run typical strikers

[radiant eagle]

just want to freely roam around the map in heroic

[subtle bluff]

Why is striker?

[ashen maple]

what?

[subtle bluff]

why does it have to be strikers?

[ashen maple]

youre asking the wrong guy.

[subtle bluff]

I mean you mentioned Strikers...

[ashen maple]

yerah i just said not everyone wants to use strikers

[subtle bluff]

I mean there are other builds other than striker that a lot players use.

[vivid jolt]

it's the best DPS set in the game, followed by HB and tipping scales. it's largely overkill for 99% of the game and as such most gearsets have a viable build sans System corruption and exuro

[ashen maple]

thats what im saying lol

[radiant eagle]

just saw some youtube about one guy used core and one guy used foundry bulwark, tanking those big guys, with half a mil damage tho

[stuck gull]

if you want survivability, I'd just run pfe

[subtle bluff]

Does happen to have modifiers on or global event on?

[subtle bluff]

Till you meet a purple tank or dog.

[ashen maple]

those dont matter

[subtle bluff]

I'm sorry what?

[exotic talon]

nobody is telling you to always use striker for every situation, but you need to recognize most other builds are comparatively ass and something like provocator aegis is bottom of the barrel

[quartz yew]

Anyone know the best build to farm NBA Heroic with 5 directives?

[ashen maple]

oh my goodness

[livid sorrel]

lots of other builds, more DPS builds than striker, yellow builds are good for support, but tanks are just dead weight most of the time

[exotic talon]

global modifiers absolutely matter for the damage output of off-meta builds

[subtle bluff]

HHF...
Or any HH build you can run well. OD works too.

[fiery mantle]

story mode ?

[stuck gull]

1886 or harvest determined with turmoil ecks dee

[exotic talon]

my favorite dps build is hotshot headhunter
core strength capacitor is a new and close second

[subtle bluff]

Lol if an ads in story could survival a 2mill hit god....

[quartz yew]

ok

[livid sorrel]

i will forever shill nego

[fiery mantle]

jes sry i see it now ^^

[fiery mantle]

I'm playing this build with Memento and the Death Bride/ deathwoman... It looks interesting, but aren't you getting that DPS just because of Glass Cannon?

[exotic talon]

striker is just really good for turning your brain off and doing one gazillion damage per hit on a gun that has no business breaking 6 figures

[subtle bluff]

GE's are OP. Again on all HSD build

I swear I add the text for a reason...

[livid sorrel]

global events and overdrives

[fiery mantle]

i will try it thx

[subtle bluff]

.................

[livid sorrel]

😌

[subtle bluff]

I'm done.. GNite...

[livid sorrel]

they're events that come and go, you can't just choose when to try them

[exotic talon]

i should play more hotshot this season
i want the juicy hsd boost

[fiery mantle]

see u agent

[stuck gull]

deadeye making eagle bearer and bighorn actually user friendly to play

[exotic talon]

theyre very much usable without any assistance

[stuck gull]

day and night difference with 40% stability and accuracy

[misty walrus]

what r the weapons talents?

[exotic talon]

bighorn is already pretty much a laser if you engage with its gimmick
eagle bearer has the lmg accuracy thing

[vivid jolt]

bighorn+ heartbreaker+ catharsis: tale as old as time

[subtle bluff]

Read the text...

[trim abyss]

So for strikers, I assume the best stat to get incresed from prototyping is weapon damage?

[lilac peak]

whats the best build to solo all content?

[summer totem]

Do you have a build involving catharsis?

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

[lilac peak]

thanks

[languid wasp]

anyone have hotshot build?

[exotic talon]

4pc hotshot chainkiller the gift

[soft crane]

GGRRRRRHHHHHH It has to be The Gift otherwise the build isnt perfect. 1 second makes all the difference.

[languid wasp]

i mean, like with full details ( gear mods )

[exotic talon]

headshot damage

[exotic talon]

i mean providence defense is a good brand for mmr so might as well go for the named

[iron flame]

Just got a lexington out of a event cache, Whats the best build for it? (attachments)

[vivid jolt]

if you're gonna use bighorn, run HB Bag and intimidate chest, could do chameleon and run 3CC rolls and with the 20%CC buff you're at max crit, rest is CD

[soft crane]

No I mean I was joking about The Gift talent. The damage bonus provided is the same. The only difference is 1 second downtime if you got hit.

Ggggrrrhhhhh

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

Attachments? That depends on your stats. If you lack a bit of crit chance then go for crit chance.

As for mag, I always go with the one that gives the most extra ammo.

[iron flame]

Do you know what talent to put on the lexington?

[livid sorrel]

killer for solo, measured for groups

[soft crane]

^

[iron flame]

Ty!

[soft crane]

Ggggrrrhhhhh

[iron flame]

Something like this? This is my striker build

6 red

[soft crane]

Yeah that's good.

Just don't forget to keep investing in crit chance in your SHD watch.

[willow sigil]

What do people mean when they say pick up trophies strategically?

Is it just watching for timer refresh?

[soft crane]

I assume you're talking about Memento backpack. If yes, then it's quite obvious you shouldn't run to where there's no cover.

[iron flame]

I have max crit chance on my watch and almost full crit dmg, I missing 1.6% cause of mods on the armour

[soft crane]

Good enough for me.

[willow sigil]

That's all they're talking about?

[quartz ermine]

Ranger

[soft crane]

I don't even know what trophy you're talking about. Anyway I gotta go, need to eat dinner.

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot/Hotdogs build.

[languid wasp]

gracias.

[subtle bluff]

you can find guide in the pinned

[soft crane]

Wait, only 3 pieces of Hotdogs?

[thorny plover]

Why am I only doing 750k crit full stacks? (I know turmoil splits damage between enemies)

[soft crane]

You answered your own question.

Maybe it'll hit 1.5M if you dont have Turmoil equipped.

[thorny plover]

I thought it split the 750k not that the 750k was already the half🤣

[soft crane]

Thats what Turmoil do.

[iron flame]

Wanted to reply to you the other day, Does the sniper/s matter that much? I have a SR-1 With Dmg out of cover and determined

[trim abyss]

So for strikers, I assume the best stat to get incresed from prototyping is weapon damage?

[inland hound]

if you had overdogs instead of coyote you would see More damage of course.

not to mention your literally SHD 148. so your missing alot of RAW damage passives, any probably your Specialization isnt max level aswell

i'd say hitting 750k crits with turmoils at your level, IS WAY more than enough.

[summer totem]

How tf you have proto striker already

Wait no its a 2nd character right?

[mild flame]

ok so what's the cons of the "streamline" weapon talent? I've been testing it out on a Lexington using a Striker build with OD/Equalizer. If you're not using any skills that require a cooldown (shield), then it seems to work. It's been slapping for me with 1mil crits consistently. So, what am I missing? Haven't really seen anybody, influencers included, getting much use out of that weapon talent so it makes think perhaps it's overrated? 🤷

genuinely curious

[soft crane]

it is overrated, say you knocked down and your reviver hive activates, thats 3 minutes of downtime

[fierce ether]

Where can i find builds like this?

[mild flame]

and i've thought about that, and it makes sense. but i havent' been running a revive hive with this particular build for that purpose

[lone glacier]

Streamline is not worth

[soft crane]

if you can manage just fine you do you I guess

[mild flame]

don't get me wrong, i thoroughly appreciate the input from people that know better than me. was just asking questions to understand the insight

[fierce ether]

Guys a good website with best pve builds to have a reference?

[soft crane]

Check pins.

[fierce ether]

Sorry

[smoky latch]

Bit outdated but still very valid
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

[strong cave]

Here soon I'll have my own guide for those bored of running the same "meta" over and over

[fierce ether]

Is fine?

[strong cave]

I wouldn't exactly trust a boosting website for build guides... Considering some of the boosting methods used includes cheats

[fierce ether]

Mmm well, then ill see the spreedsheet

[pine oracle]

I thougt about this aswell and I play with global Modifier overload so when I die my hive Proc then I use overload to overcharge it and I only have like 10 secs cooldown on it

[flint arch]

I would advise you delete this link, if a mod sees it there will likely be problems

[fierce ether]

Well i am just new, just trying to understand the pve builds to have something as reference in build terms, dont like boost and never be boostef

But deleted

[flint arch]

some additional info: streamline 42% WD is not as strong as it seems since it's additive with your red cores and specific weapon damage stats. it's more like a 16% increase in the end. it'll beat stuff like measured though

but the big problem is that you cannot use a single skill. can't be active, can't be on cooldown. revive hive is a problem, but even if you stop using it, having no skills whatsoever is detrimental even for a full red build. i cannot emphasize how useful stuff like foam chem, banshee pulse, EMP sticky bomb and decoys are even at skill tier 0, and giving them up is a big loss.

[mild flame]

gotcha....thanks 🫡

[tall hollow]

MK46 w/ DtA good or is CHC way better?

[flint arch]

CHC on LMGs

[toxic frigate]

CHC on LMG

[tall hollow]

Ty

[long dove]

hey boys can someone tell me why we need 2 MMR im playing with m700 but mine looks different? i got white death but not a good talent cant change it

[toxic frigate]

do not do perfect determined (sorry auto message)

[urban latch]

You want chain killer, it's absolutely the way to go

[toxic frigate]

if you're doing solo, most of time you going to deal with armor plates (helmet), its not going to kill your target in one shot as supposed HH to do

so the 2nd rifle we use usually is shroud because the high celling damage

[toxic frigate]

also i think you can take off the overdogs to switch to 4th hotshot pc

[urban latch]

Overdogs makes it way easier to get stacks going, and again well worth on this build

[urban latch]

I don't know what you even mean by this....

[long dove]

i got shroud should i use it ? or nemesis?

[toxic frigate]

yeah you can use shroud for 2nd weapon

[long dove]

chain killer wont drop only got 1 and bad rolls been running 4 countdowns not single one after this one i got

shroud for taking off helmets right?

all rest of my gear are good rolls

[urban latch]

Imo should is unnecessary, you should be able to still break helmets with a white death at full stacks.

I'd recommend something different than two of the same gun, whether that's nemesis or a M870 for close range HHing

[surreal elk]

all augments that i have on me apply all the time? Like double chance bullet augment on my chest?

[urban latch]

Augments stack together and all apply, you can see the totals on the stats page

[surreal elk]

oh nice, thank you

[long dove]

just got it the headshot mod on chainkiller

[long dove]

im sorry i still dont know the playstyle, so shroud to break helms then swap to m700 to 1 shot with determined right and keep the cycle going

can m700 insta kill w determined even if they have helms?

[urban latch]

Determined will make you hit the helmet of anything with a helmet. The reason I'm saying should is unnecessary is with full stacks you should still be breaking those helmets, so the extra damage isn't going to do anything other than lose your determined

There are situations where extra damage is helpful, and that's generally where nemesis comes in, but as an alternative the m870 shotgun can be amazing at close range since HH boosts the damage of all shotgun pellets and you'll do huge amounts of damage. So at close range you can HH with m870 deleting everything, but you'll have to hit heads.

Not as great on a pure MMR build, but 1886 is also a very good HHing option

[long dove]

thank you

i will try it out with shroud/nemesis or the shotgun seems the safe bet at close range

[atomic pebble]

is my first bloom better than my expertise 3 st.elmo for my striker build?

[shy willow]

Depends on use case

First bloom will absolutely do more damage but Elmo has free crowd control and a large mag, good handling and high crit

[pallid spoke]

been using my Proto First bloom over St Elmos. The dmg output easily offsets the loss of cc and large mag tbh

especially if prof is between 30 vs 3

[long dove]

btw this build easily does heroics with directives right?

[inland hound]

St elmos anyday it will save your life more then you would know.

[fierce ether]

Guys if i get a perfect lexington, is better than st elmos?

[inland hound]

lexingtons come god rolled, change the talent to whatver you want and use it until you become sick of it, (i will never be sick of the lex)

[fierce ether]

Oh ever is god roll?

Well, then ill run lexingtons

[timid fiber]

I’m having trouble wanting to use the Lex I got over Chameleon

[smoky latch]

?

I have trouble understanding what you're trying to say

[true oak]

hi guys is this still the best striker build or not anymore ?

[atomic pebble]

Anything better than Overdogs gloves for striker?
It can be an another glove or an another piece of item.
LF Suggestions.

[smoky latch]

It's one of the best Striker's variants for general play, yes

There isn't really "the best" for anything

Most things are situational and depend on the activity

[smoky latch]

Same for you. What are you looking to improve for what activity?

[flint arch]

i am resisting the urge to scream "pvgc striker" rn

[atomic pebble]

I don't want to look for low tier targets to make the gloves work. So an alternative for overdogs

[flint arch]

i can no longer resist the urge to scream "pvgc striker"

[flint arch]

overdogs effect is not that difficult to proc. even if you completely ignore it you'll hit it most of the time. and its not like you'll do 0 damage if you don't proc it

also, most of the dangerous enemy archetypes are already in tier 1

but if you really don't want to use overdogs, you can use stuff like coyote's or a ceska/grupo piece

[patent fossil]

Or two named Providence pieces

[grim bluff]

Contractor's Gloves or Fox's Prayers kneepads are an option too

[flint arch]

mmmmrghrhghhhhhhffhfh

[atomic pebble]

strikers be like "I be strikin"

[gentle lichen]

Who up striking it in escalation

[flint arch]

🗿

[timid fiber]

I have Overdogs and Memento. I have been running Memento if I am solo but Overdogs in a group. Thoughts?

[flint arch]

yeah you're good

[timid fiber]

Mind you I’m a returning player after like 6 year absence

[flint arch]

ideally you should be able to just drop memento and run overdogs 24/7 but that's a bit of a skill hike so it's fine

[soft crane]

wdf 2020 player like me

[timid fiber]

I think once I get my watch leveled more and stuff that will help. Surviveability is a bit rough solo sometimes. But you think Lex over Chameleon? I need the blueprint for the better mag and stuff.

[vernal wing]

Is there a striker escalation today?

[soft crane]

Personally I'd go for Lex

[flint arch]

chameleon is more situational and is basically just a SMG pretending to be an AR, lexington is more consistent and works at all ranges

[soft crane]

Ah yes Chameleon has damage worse damage drop off because its basically SMG with AR classification.

[flint arch]

chameleon can potentially do more damage than lexington, but that's a bit of an "if". you need to be close (its not very accurate and its range is basically a SMG), and the effect is a bit annoying to proc

[timid fiber]

Ahh ok. I mean, I love it.

[flint arch]

i like how it looks i just wished it was actually an AR and not pretending to be one

[timid fiber]

Yeah. It definitely is more consistent and don’t have to ramp it up. I’ve been trying to get the blueprint for a bigger mag for the Lex. Hasn’t dropped yet.

[junior lagoon]

wolf posted a core strength/chamelon build. i did not understand how it works but i am sure there is some merit

i want to try it even juts for trying yellow core liquid engineer

[timid fiber]

Right now I know Chameleon can get my CHC over 50%. Lex cannot. I know that will come in time with watch, optimization, and better mods.

The only rifle I want to try is Elmo but I’ve yet to get it to drop.

[soft crane]

eh its a common exotic, you'll get it

[pallid spoke]

Actually enjoying First Bloom right now. The Talent is actually nice when ramping up Strikers with the inverse HP scaling mechanic

[soft crane]

even with all CHC mods on Lex? You can get up to 15% CHC from weapon mods alone

[hazy valve]

Ok here me out: killer Lexington, negotiator deli, 2 pc , 2 piece unit alloy chest and holster anr ninjabike bp

[soft crane]

Can we please stop using Ninjabike

I feel like every build that uses Ninjabike is half-assed.

[flint arch]

it will perform not well

losing the backpack talent will hurt you way more than any stats you can get from NBB

[hazy valve]

Ninjabike BP not good? Sorry im just entering back into division 2 lol

[hazy valve]

Ohhh ok

[soft crane]

Yeah, its overrated af

[flint arch]

only time NBB is preferred is in PVP, in PVE it is always the worse option

[hazy valve]

Thats interesting, idk why it looks good on paper, to give a extra of everything from brand and gear set

Back to the drawing board I go....

[flint arch]

brand sets and 2/3pc gear set effects in general give stats that are additive to things that are generally in overabundance and will run into issues related to diminishing returns

meanwhile a backpack talent can contribute to a separate multiplier which is way more valuable

or have other bonuses that is just more useful than NBB

[hazy valve]

Corrupt ur a legend, tyty, will come bk with new questions later lol

[subtle bluff]

In the pinned messages.

[subtle bluff]

It's like people don't read the guide....

[subtle bluff]

You can use almost any MMR. Just white death and model 700 have the highest base dmg so you first HH stack is much higher than the rest.

[iron flame]

Ahhh Okay ty

[lone glacier]

reading is hard y'know

[smoky latch]

"What guide?" :>

[subtle bluff]

I'm just showing the 2 objectively best dmg and handling ones.
Tbh I should take off the weapons because no reads the fine print.

[flint arch]

📖

blah blah blah i will just follow this yt guide that tells me to run core strength nbb immortal tank dps pfe hazpro status effect skill build that shreds, destroys, dominates, obliterates and trivializes mastelegescalation

[subtle bluff]

(leaves chat)

[flint arch]

🥺 sir

[timid fiber]

Returning player and I’m on PS5 not Xbox anymore so I may be missing mods for weapons. Been trying to farm some CP3s for blueprints but idk what I’m missing. Most I can get right now is 5% on rail and 5% on muzzle. I don’t even have the big big magazine yet.

On another note, I bought an exotic cache with my countdown credits and got St. Elmo’s lol. I read the talent. Bit underwhelming but I guess in harder content the CC might be nice.

Guessing it’s locked attributes cause can’t recalibrate any of them but I noticed that between my two agitators, they each had a different secondary.

[solar sable]

guys
I think the meta is

no fkn way... now that this person has mentioned it I haven't added how to Reconfigure exotics to the guide

[timid fiber]

What can I say but you’re welcome.

[solar sable]

and yet here I was thinking that the guide was finished

@flint arch why were you right? Are you Dr. House?

[solar sable]

thx, kind player

[flint arch]

I'm always right sir

[solar sable]

so, i.e you can Reconfigure exotic weapons by buying the blueprint from Inaya and then reconfig in the station

[solar sable]

where is the cane?

[flint arch]

I think my next guide should be "For the Love of God Please Stop Using Core Strength in PVE Goddammit"

[timid fiber]

Don’t let the name fool you. I am genuinely nice and helpful lol.

That makes sense. It’s weird that I guess they can have different stats but don’t let you just reconfigure normally. I’ll have to see what the best rolls for Elmo are.

[flint arch]

all weapons want DTTOOC, except LMGs, they want CHC since their 2nd attribute is already DTTOOC

[noble pelican]

"How to realize how much dps you actually do" would be a great guide.
Because I'm crying if I see more people push 5-6m on the dummy - entirely ignoring how buggy it is - and arguing that that's "close to the best Striker loadouts".

[timid fiber]

Makes sense. Are the cores fixed though?

[flint arch]

"Please Stop Using the Goddamned DPS Meter in the Range"

[flint arch]

1st and 2nd attribute are fixed

[noble pelican]

I'd argue it's fine for pure damage builds (like Striker) if you just want to see what ballpark you are in.
Because despite it being buggy as hell, you aren't hitting the same 25-30m on a CS build.

[timid fiber]

Got it. See I have this Overdogs build but even on just Hard I feel like I’m getting smacked.

[flint arch]

[trim abyss]

Seems like first bloom is putting out just as much DPS or slightly more than lexington

[smoky latch]

And how exactly did you test to get to this conclusion?

[solar sable]

||please say range, please say range||

[dreamy valve]

I love Thorn now. It hits so hard even at 6 blues. I’ve managed to echo mine so will level it to max now

[smoky latch]

[noble pelican]

||"It did more damage against that one elite"||

[dreamy valve]

Did anyone here echoed their First Bloom yet btw

[smoky latch]

Yesterday someone had it drop with echo

Search for images in this channel and you'll find who

[icy jasper]

Still wondering what it does

[dreamy valve]

I rolled a Lexington with 31% health damage, wondering which would be better

[trim abyss]

just from running escalation

[icy jasper]

Do we get the damage from elites or

[solar sable]

wdym

[icy jasper]

Lex with killer will always out DPS all exotics

And other AR's in it's class

[dreamy valve]

Oh really

[trim abyss]

first bloom may take the top spot now

Ill wait to someone does some real tests with it though

[icy jasper]

Not exotics but like all other AR's at least on paper

[smoky latch]

Yeah that is wise

[trim abyss]

mines already protoyped tho and I love it

[solar sable]

??

[smoky latch]

I deconstructed the prototypes I got from the caches

[trim abyss]

I just god rolled one and prototyped it myself, the caches drops are doo doo

[icy jasper]

I gotta O Carol from it

[smoky latch]

Congratulations hahaha

[icy jasper]

Like bruh my first proto n I get this

[dreamy valve]

Did you guys get a few hundred keys yesterday too?

[trim abyss]

I can niether confirm nor deny such things

[viscid plaza]

No, I played ethically

[dreamy valve]

I accidentally got some from matchmaking

[hazy steeple]

Rule 6, can't discuss it on this server.

[trim abyss]

regardless, get a first bloom, optimizie it and prototype it, its pretty damn good

[dreamy valve]

Did you only tested in Escalations or other content?

[trim abyss]

escalation, open world and non escalated missions

[dreamy valve]

I’m interested in using hollow man with it

[trim abyss]

ya I mustve got rid of my hollow man becuase I dont know where it went

[smoky latch]

In a Striker's build you mean?

[dreamy valve]

First bloom+Hollow Man+Strikers

Maybe with Overdogs

[junior lagoon]

hollow man can be bought from dark zone east vendor

[dreamy valve]

I think it’s a blueprint from Retaliations too right?

[hollow sierra]

need some assistance im putting together a hunters fury backfire build but needs assistance with the modifiers to help with haz pro

[hollow sierra]

thanks bro appreciate it alot

[long dove]

@urban latch wat mods do i need on the shotgun for oneshot if u r free :d

[hollow sierra]

for the one that says nullify i could fill that slot with anything else

[urban latch]

The main thing you want to make sure you have is over 150% hsd with the shotgun, which can be harder to do like on HF HH builds

[woeful peak]

so im trying my own take on a build i saw online

dont mind reviver

[dreamy valve]

That’s a mod you need to buy, it’s part of the recipe

[woeful peak]

tier 6 skills btw

any advice?

[smoky latch]

What difficulty do you play on in PvE?

[noble pelican]

Ignore 99% of the builds you see "online" if it means YouTube/TikTok and the like.
The pinned message has a ton of actually viable builds.

CS isn't bad if you just get started and want something that allows you to play around with everything a bit; But it isn't great for PvE.

[woeful peak]

hmmmmm

i play heroic

[smoky latch]

Solo or in group?

[slim sorrel]

Anyone have a build for OD with Ridgeways pride? maybe?|| @subtle bluff ||

[smoky latch]

Bad idea. You need the OD chest

[slim sorrel]

is the passive heal really that bad?

[noble pelican]

I wish that combo would work, but dropping from 50% to 20% just isn't worth it.

[smoky latch]

It's a trash exo in general aside from some PvP builds maybe

[woeful peak]

well then what do i do lmao

[slim sorrel]

dont mind the atri's im just thinking out loud here

[noble pelican]

In the pinned messages is a sheet with builds, docs about them and everything.

[long dove]

yeah i got u i think im missing something cuz nemsis isnt great if i keep exposing myself i didnt test shroud yet and i just got the shotgun

[smoky latch]

What is Ridgeway's range limit? Was it 10m or 15m? Doesn't fit

[slim sorrel]

15

[pallid spoke]

Not worth it on OD though

[slim sorrel]

ohh fug

you right.. 15mtrs....is kinda dog

[smoky latch]

For OD always use the chest

[noble pelican]

It works "okay" with Sadist on some SMG's, but you wouldn't be running OD with that either.
The dmg bonus dropping from 50% to 20% because you miss the chest means you might as well not run the set.

[pallid spoke]

ye ye, the extra 30% amp is worth the chest

[long dove]

this is with the m870 express, do i need brazen on it or sometihng else?

[pallid spoke]

The BP is optional. The extra bleed doesn't matter as much

[urban latch]

Nemesis is really different than basically every other gun in the game, so it takes some getting used to. It's fairly situational since that much damage isn't needed often

[pallid spoke]

My preference is Anarchist's cookbook.

[slim sorrel]

faxx im running BS with OD and patrov backpack with wicked

[pallid spoke]

perfect wicked gives additional 18% amp damage and has built in status for bleed duration

[slim sorrel]

what gives perf wicked?

[pallid spoke]

Anarchist's cookbook

[urban latch]

Looks good, brazen or pummel would be ideal, but it's sort of depends how your using it. If your just pulling it out to double tap a chunga or something then brazen, if your using it more like a primary then pummel.

[pallid spoke]

if you're feelin extra spicy, run it with Tinker's with Sadist and Pressure point on lmgs

[onyx sage]

i would recommend wicked on a normal ceska backpack instead, the brand on anarchist doesn't help you and the perfect version just gives extra duration

[pallid spoke]

ceska works too for sure

[slim sorrel]

been running around with this for some fun support in escals

[pallid spoke]

it's a 3% increase actually

[onyx sage]

no, normal and perfect are both 18%

[smoky latch]

It's just an increased timer IIRC

[pallid spoke]

oh did they buff it? I remember it being 15%

or maybe my memory is shot

[onyx sage]

yeah, those

[smoky latch]

Perfect timing for both screenshots

[pallid spoke]

it's always the numbers that get me

[grizzled garnet]

if youre running OD the timer should not be an issue since unless youre wasting your ammo enemies will always be bleeding

[smoky latch]

Or you fight against super spongy enemies as in higher tier Escalations for instance

I wouldn't recommend OD for that

[noble pelican]

What would you even run, if you duo Escalations?
Just double Striker?

[onyx sage]

yeah

i really tried hard to make nego work. it just falls off really hard if they're too tanky 😔

[grizzled garnet]

would coco not work 🤔

or is the ramp up too much work compared to strikers

[long dove]

got it thanks a lot

[onyx sage]

it really sucks having to start without stacks

[solar sable]

I never noticed that Wicked's icon was an Owl

[dreamy valve]

@noble pelican @onyx sage Which Esc Tier are you guys running off of?

[onyx sage]

i mostly run tier 5-8, tier 10 is too stressful for me rn

might come back after i get all my protos

[dreamy valve]

Isn't past Tier 5 you need to start having some Proto pieces on your character?

[onyx sage]

it's not really that harsh at that level, it helps but still plenty doable without

tier 8 starts making you really feel it tho

[dreamy valve]

Im thinking of using the hazpro modifiers for that

[onyx sage]

my prototypes are pretty lackluster right now so i'm pretty sure they don't help much

like... my LMG got chc as the proto attribute, like come on

[smoky latch]

I'd take that over WD

[onyx sage]

eh, i'm already overcapping

[pallid spoke]

or heatlh damage

[subtle bluff]

LMG.

[pallid spoke]

which is what my lex got

[onyx sage]

i still have a rate of fire lmg and i'm using that instead but... it still sucks

[subtle bluff]

No frenzy.

[teal ibex]

short qeustion. u know t he guy widtz? a youtuber who makes build? u can say legit or nah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KPZEO2nTx4

[onyx sage]

i would not recommend his videos.

[smoky latch]

[pallid spoke]

I know I'm just being salty about my lex roll

[subtle bluff]

He's does a different way of clickbait.

[smoky latch]

Nah

[teal ibex]

who was it again who did make legit stuff?

[smoky latch]

Also, beware of his "sponsors". Boosting services are against the Terms of Service of Ubisoft

But hey, he is just a Ubisoft partner so I guess it's OK

[onyx sage]

nowadays i would watch ToasteyXGod but he doesn't really make build videos, previously iKia was making a lot of videos going in depth, but he's stopped after this update

so i'm not really sure who i would recommend for that niche

[teal ibex]

hmm someone who helps understand builds and one thats similar to ikia basically. and what you do? but explained and how it works aside just showcase so to say?

[onyx sage]

yeah exactly, there's not really anyone i trust enough right now to do this stuff

and i'm not interested in making them, too much effort :p i just stick to making challenge runs/speedruns

[noble pelican]

5-8 via matchmaking, 8-9 duo so far.

[teal ibex]

ehm alrighty. but old builds would work? or did some major changes in between some months? i will ask here regardless lol

[onyx sage]

yes, they don't really go obsolete, basically you can reference the pinned spreadsheet here, if there's anything serious we would list it in the first page changelog

[dreamy valve]

I’d watch some of Toasty, but his builds are mainly concerned with speed running Raids and Tier 10 Escalations

[noble pelican]

If you see him play T10, you can apply the same to T6-9 tbh.

[dreamy valve]

Yeah, outside of high level escalations, not sure who you watch for pvp

[teal ibex]

something like for be able to do t3-t5 lego runs and incursion basically?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah

I subbed to a Korean player named Merkatz but they quit too. Was a good player

[onyx sage]

pepperidge farm remembers RoterBlitz

[teal ibex]

i just need a name who is legit and can rely on 😭 tired of clickbait xD

[dreamy valve]

I stole some of his builds he used to solo Incursion, but that’s it

[teal ibex]

4 ppl said nah. you said ye only incursion. so well... i guess im still at a loss right now xD

[onyx sage]

i wish we had a person to recommend

[tawdry raven]

What's best talent for kard custom and backup broomstick?

[dreamy valve]

You take what seems useful out of any source, Reddit,youtube,Discord etc. no real recommendations for this game unfortunately

[subtle bluff]

And he stole those from the first 2 guys that did it.

[smoky latch]

Happens too often

@dreamy valve Oh look!

[dreamy valve]

Test it outttttt

[smoky latch]

It's actually alright. I'll keep it. The other two I got had bs 3rd attributes

[dreamy valve]

I’d keep it

[smoky latch]

It's annoying I can't put a C79 scope on it

[dreamy valve]

For Whenever they feel like letting us recal as a possibility

[smoky latch]

Something is coming

[atomic pebble]

@smoky latch I don'y have Overdogs. What should I go with for damage?

[warm lagoon]

Salvo holster would be good

[subtle bluff]

Another UA if using AR’s if not Ceska.

[atomic pebble]

is ceska %5 weapon damage? I forgot

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough Salvo is worse than just a normal UA with CHC/CHD, especially at lower SHD

[subtle bluff]

8% CHC

Anything that gives more CHC overall is the best choices.

[atomic pebble]

is there any other good exotic armor instead of gloves? Holster, knees or mask maybe

[subtle bluff]

Coyote, Scabbard (if you can adapt your gameplay)

There all in the striker guide

[atomic pebble]

it says ceska and sombra but doesn't say what piece.
It jumps from piece to piece. Chest to gloves, then gloves again. It's confusing

[subtle bluff]

The last piece isn’t fixed to gloves…

Chest is referring to the old meta piece of Ceska chest.

[queen mauve]

So besides the infinite seeker build and tipping scales / striker is there anything else thats viable

[lone wadi]

viable for what

[queen mauve]

Escalation

[lone wadi]

since when was infinite seeker viable 🙃

[queen mauve]

I get my information from here and YouTube

[lone wadi]

if i see an infinite seeker in t6+ escalation theyre getting kicked

[queen mauve]

So tipping scales striker

[lone wadi]

pretty much

enemies have emp that jam seekers when they get shot and seekers just have no sustained damage

fi is also viable but idk if youre only strictly talking about dps

[queen mauve]

Fi?

[tulip pollen]

future initiative/healer build

[queen mauve]

Heard

[tulip pollen]

maybe we'll get build diversity in division 3

[hazy steeple]

Rule 12.

[inland hound]

my fault wont happen again.

frustrations got the better of me.

[hazy steeple]

No harm done. Just snip the build itself without the side panel, covers all we need to see

[queen mauve]

I can recite the build maybe

Cyote mask core str backpack core str holster prototype chest of some variety and proto gloves and knees. I saw the bird logo on the gloves

[low walrus]

Tried my best at putting together a status build. Any tips/advice?

[queen mauve]

Do you wanna use skills or guns?

[low walrus]

Trying to build around Bluescreen this time around. I do really enjoy using skills more, though.

[queen mauve]

Guns wise you really want all red cores crit chan crit dmg that gearsetc is great for buffing dmg against enemies for your team

Vile is best for skill builds but if your heart is set on it it shouldn't knock you back far efficiency wise

Important bit of knowledge status effects won't do good damage on like heroic + unless you spec into status effect damage but by then you're better ditching the bluescreen

[queen mauve]

And just going full yellow tiers with status effect procing skills ie stinger hive and the incendiary cloud thing

[low walrus]

Roger.

[steady slate]

hey guys newbie question here, do the marks from Negos or Underdogs count as a status effect? or is that strictly elemental based stuff like burn, bleed, etc

[lone wadi]

no not a status

[strong cave]

None of the above. Negotiator mark is just a mark signifying "hey, this enemy is marked, the damage will be applied to anyone with the mark"

[sinful tinsel]

is strikers or heartbreaker better for techtank

[lone wadi]

its like a debuff, like the scorpio and sledgehammer symbols

[strong cave]

It's the same way with OD and Opportunistic and Pestilence

[lone wadi]

^yup and all those too

[queen mauve]

Definitely look up ongoing directive builds most of them use the bluescreen

[strong cave]

Technically heartbreaker since it natively drops with armor cores, and you kinda need tech to run heartbreaker efficiently

[sinful tinsel]

ok thx

[strong cave]

You could go striker too, but you'll need to roll it to blue

[sinful tinsel]

yeah i cba with the grind

[willow garnet]

at last SHD 1k. What build is currently melting escalation?

[strong cave]

Striker

But uh, wouldn't exactly call it "melting". More like slowly chipping away

[subtle bluff]

I mean this is on the dev for escalations. When you scale things to that degree that's what's gonna happen.

In everything else there is diversity.

Raids and Incursion are the same as escalation in a sense.

[subtle bluff]

One does more DPS the other one has some buffer.

[sinful tinsel]

gonna go with hb i reckon easier to grind for atm

[willow garnet]

i have striker cc 55
cd 125
weapon chameleon
and ACS 12 shotgun. sometimes when i have high build up i can kill fast on heroic. Escalation tier 2 is hard to kill.

[solar sable]

CC ≠ CHC
CD ≠ CHD

[lone wadi]

drop the chameleon, pick yourself up a frenzy mk46 or gr9

[willow garnet]

also have Coyote mask.
Chc
Critical hit chance
CD critical hit Damage. my bad.

[lone wadi]

drop the acs too for utilityt weapon like scorpio, ravenous, agitator(for groups) since you shouldnt be that close to enemies to stack anyway

[subtle bluff]

Back and forth even.

[willow garnet]

dont have ravenous or agitator. Gr9? where to farm it, Submachine gun targeted hunt in countdown?

[lone wadi]

lmg or you craft it

[trim abyss]

I just want my striker prototypes to roll with weapons damage, I got SUPER lucky with tipping scales and my salvo.

[willow garnet]

lacking steel. 🙁

[lone wadi]

its a grind in the end

[smoky latch]

Strikers could use more crits tho

[trim abyss]

Ya ive rolled crit chance and crit damage on another. I've only got weapons damage on my backpack

[smoky latch]

I'd go for CHD only ideally

[trim abyss]

Interesting, I rolled CHD on my equalizer peice to

[smoky latch]

Keep it, try to get CHD preferably

[trim abyss]

So maybe I dont need to re-expertise 2 pieces, that would be nice to not have to do lol

[smoky latch]

No keep CHD. Striker's is already a bunch of WD

But it is crit starved

[trim abyss]

awesome

[junior lagoon]

what are the best seasonal modifiers to use in iron lung/striker build?

[cunning crescent]

is skill efficiency like weapon handling but for skills?

[smoky latch]

Subjective. Magazine size is nice for Iron Lung tho

[smoky latch]

Kinda, yeah

[cunning crescent]

also does t6 artificer hive on your back work to heal your deflector drone?

[smoky latch]

Idk, never tried

[cunning crescent]

(currently in the lab)

[smoky latch]

I've never seen that combo tho

[gentle lichen]

It heals all types of shields so no reason to not work on deflector
Though it does it every 10 seconds when on back

[manic bough]

Clan mate just told me that amplified damage has a cap 100,7% - is that true?

[gentle lichen]

What

No

[smoky latch]

Uh what

[subtle bluff]

I am super curious how he came up with this.

[smoky latch]

After reading this I now claim I can smell colors

[sinful tinsel]

why is loot this week absolutely stacked never thought id see dark winter in countdown vendor

[lone wadi]

he found it under his pillow after a good night's sleep

[subtle bluff]

Sir...

Wait is that what I need to do to find my motivation to update guides?

[solar sable]

yes

[inland hound]

Gondor calls for aid.

[manic bough]

He tried two builds:
OD with tinkerer - sadist+pressure point+wicked
OD with tinkerer - sadist+pressure point + fox prayer
He said he dealt more damage with the 2nd build

[subtle bluff]

Lol?

I...

[inland hound]

he's melting down

[subtle bluff]

God Damnit....

[manic bough]

im not saying he is right,i just wanted to see if its true or not and maybe get an explanation as to why he did more damage with the 2nd build

[cunning crescent]

i hate shields so thinking of a mobile way to be tanky, also got a nice investor mask w 3 yellows and red core so will pair it with core gear set to see how it works......also just had henri chest drop so will add that

i love how 1 random drop in this game will totally open your mind up to weird combos

[patent fossil]

That demonstrates a failure to understand the damage equations and an inability to stage a proper scientific test where only one variable is adjusted

[solar sable]

in simpler words, he knows shit

[vernal gazelle]

mhh the droprates mgiht be better

[solar sable]

wait how or why is the grupo vest not Exp 30?

[patent fossil]

Can't even answer this without more information: full build, brand of the wicked backpack, rolls on the bag and the foxes, exact testing circumstances (including global events, modifiers etc)

[lone glacier]

Sir, people rely on guides and youre the next best man for it

[vernal gazelle]

it is when on the detail screen guess its just a bug

[subtle bluff]

This can be easily shown in the range of how wrong this is.

[solar sable]

🥴

[subtle bluff]

First off to keep things simple. Striker stacks are amp.
You can put on a chest and get up to 180% amp.

But for his testing brb let me go throw it on and just show a clip.

[solar sable]

He's back at it...

mr sir good sir Chow has reincarnated

[manic bough]

I have a tendency to ask questions that trigger him,which is not my intention 😄

[solar sable]

he doesn't get triggered just leaves him confused

[vernal gazelle]

this one is pretty good

[solar sable]

only a few people have the ability to actually trigger Chow

[subtle bluff]

it's as long as you can listen.

[smoky latch]

@patent fossil @hazy steeple

[subtle bluff]

GET OUT

[vernal gazelle]

@broken edge bro has been hacked

[smoky latch]

Why so many idiots clicking shit lately?

[broken edge]

doesnt have to be, people make a lot of bots a lot of times

[smoky latch]

It is a hijacked account, sir

[manic bough]

Mate, im not listening, im taking notes of every question you answer me so that i dont spread misinformation to newer players 😄

[broken edge]

look i know there are a lot of poor college kids who do commisions to get some money, but i dont think i've seen a single one that wasnt a bot account

[vernal gazelle]

whats a good weapon to use for umbra probably all like burst dps right?

[solar sable]

now that is how an average player is born

[smoky latch]

Again, hijacked account

[broken edge]

going to assume an SMG with killer is the answer

[solar sable]

Determined

[vernal gazelle]

would the bleeding exotic smg be good?

[broken edge]

backfire? it could work

[vernal gazelle]

i would need to have something against the bleeding tho

[broken edge]

wouldnt just sitting in cover fix that?

[vernal gazelle]

its dangerous on escal you die so fast i tried it once

[broken edge]

on escalation it's a different deal

[solar sable]

reload three times and you're immune for a few seconds

but yeah, don't use it on Escalation

[broken edge]

i'm going to try to farm hotshot later to upgrade a sniper build

[vernal gazelle]

so oroborus would be better?

[onyx sage]

it works if you know how to stop the bleeding fast by reload spamming, but you need to not take damage during that time or the bleed will kill you

[solar sable]

I would say smgs in Escalation are a nono

[subtle bluff]

use an SMG in escalation would a bad idea in general..

[broken edge]

too dangerous to be close of EMP stunlock

[buoyant perch]

It works in specific areas of different maps. E.g. emergency bunker boss room

[broken edge]

i mean on lower tiers like 1-2 should be fine

[solar sable]

I hate Federal Bunker...

[broken edge]

i love federal bunker

[vernal gazelle]

is there some decently mid ranged weapon that could benefit from umbra tho like a exotic

[broken edge]

caretaker?

[autumn totem]

Striker build: Ceksa chest/overdogs. Or turmoil overdogs?

[vernal gazelle]

the new ar could be good with umbra

[solar sable]

Equalizer/Ovd

[smoky latch]

The answer is: never turmoil unless HH build

[broken edge]

the new AR could work

[buoyant perch]

I love it for escal farming

[onyx sage]

ceska chest or equalizer

[subtle bluff]

Are you context all of escalation?

[broken edge]

yeah i dont like any of the mission on rotation right now

[autumn totem]

I've got an equalizer and ceska chest both perfect rolls

[solar sable]

I'll see if I can agree

[vernal gazelle]

yes i wanna use it for escal

[lone wadi]

except that one room where the flamer gets stuck upstairs...

[buoyant perch]

Agree, that sucks

[subtle bluff]

Escalation is kind of locked to a meta if you don't wanna use the meta you'll just be a hinders to your team and yourself.

[broken edge]

decoy to lure it to window

[vernal gazelle]

bro

[buoyant perch]

bro

[solar sable]

:/

[lone wadi]

sometimes works sometimes doesnt

coulda had a sub 14 min t10 if not for that guy

[subtle bluff]

I don't even have a OD BP that's opitimzed.. UGH. lol

[cunning crescent]

Damn can’t use henri w system core build 🥹

[lapis fiber]

Im new to division 2 and was wondering no matter what the level item/gear is, if the gear is a low level but has good stats or higher stats than another gear that has a higher level but lower stats, would wearing gear with better stats be better or wear gear that has lower level but better stats??

[solar sable]

before lvl40, equip whatever has a higher level

[lapis fiber]

OK

[subtle bluff]

@manic bough ok this is for your clanmate.
I can give you the DPS numbers from these builds or math it out to you if you want.

Simply what has more number than the others.

[vernal gazelle]

man umbra is really weak compared to striker..bruh

umbra should for what it offers with its perk have more burst dps but just flatout striker wins

[subtle bluff]

Umbra only needs to hide for a lil to get it's burst up where striker needs stack a lil. But ya.

[manic bough]

thank you! I already commented on his message in our discord saying "that is not correct. if it was, the striker chest would never make sense since you get 180% amp with the striker BP, but you deal increasingly more damage when using both" - just waiting for a response

[solar sable]

watch Khonon get blocked by his clan member

[vernal gazelle]

but overall the amount of risk im taking playing umbra should give me a higher brust dps when i then have to run back

[subtle bluff]

Honestly I hate using umbra.

I did for grinding to change up in CD farming was interesting but in normal use I really hate ite

[manic bough]

It is what it is then

[vernal gazelle]

i like the idea but it needs a buff and maybe a rework with close range weapons only or something

increase the burst dps but you need to be within a certain distance as a trade off or something

[subtle bluff]

Like I'm pretty sure it's outright peak burst is more than strikers.

[vernal gazelle]

yeah but knowing this game its probably 10% more dps for 100% more risk so kts not worth it probably

i really hope the balance patch will rework some of these gearsets make them also good not just very situational

[lone wadi]

what risk

wheres the risk

[vernal gazelle]

you have to go out of cover

[lone wadi]

bro so does any other build Lol

half the time staying in the d2 cover system is not even optimal

this is barely a risk and more an annoyance

[smoky latch]

How many useable/good Umbra items did you get from your run?

[vernal gazelle]

i got a almost full prototype set only missing the mask, most pieces have chc

[smoky latch]

How many runs in?

[vernal gazelle]

1

tier 5

[smoky latch]

Sheesh, alright. Got one OK item with CHC only lol

[vernal gazelle]

but i would wanna go for chd anyway since i max out chc faster

[vernal gazelle]

the chests have a decent chance to spawn loot

[smoky latch]

Depends what you wanna run with it. Usually Umbra isn't very strong in PvE but I'll give the proto version a try

[mild flame]

striker/OD with Big Al feels like a cheat code on heroic.....

[subtle bluff]

eh... too much cover needed to use it on heroics

[smoky latch]

I need proto cores anyway

[subtle bluff]

oh you meant Overdogs and not OD ongoing

[mild flame]

well sure if you're a run and gunner...but there's literally nowhere i can't sit behind the same cover and just melt everything before it gets to me....honestly, it's almost kinda boring lol

sorry, yes overdogs

[subtle bluff]

Or take a HE weapon with killer and just run thru heroics

[thorny plover]

No first character, I’ve got like 5 days playtime🤣

[thorny plover]

What does overdogs do exactly? I don’t understand it when I read it

[subtle bluff]

in the Pinned Messages there's a post for the tiers

[broken edge]

you deal extra damage against lower tier enemes types (not rank like like yellow, purple, red)

[exotic talon]

did a new global event start or something? my capacitor cs build is suddenly doing more damage

[thorny plover]

What would be the best pvp striker build?

[last schooner]

so I can obtain/use proto pieces without have expertise 30 gear right? Expertise 30 is only needed if I want to convert it right?

[oak flume]

what is the best overall dmg talent for Lexington?

[nimble moss]

Yes. I don't know if you can reroll augment if you're not expertise 30 though ? But you can drop them and use yeah.

[ivory abyss]

there is none just use what works for your situation, killer for solo play, measured, strained, back and forth etc for groups, like theres options i dont think theres a one is simply the best

[trim matrix]

question: ongoing directive + ridgeway pride?

[oak flume]

saw some dude say striker drone and in sync lol whats your opinion on that?

[ivory abyss]

Just buffs your drone I think and I would not use that just for strikers lol if im using a drone I am using refrac or soemthing lol

[oak flume]

nah it gives 30% wep dmg when your drone damages something and you also do

its 15% wep dmg when drone does dmg and 15% skill dmg when you do and 30% to both when both are active

[last schooner]

yeah but what happens when your drone goes down and you have to wait 60sec for cooldown?

[oak flume]

yeah i wasnt sure on the drones cooldown or uptime thats why i was asking

[last schooner]

pick something that's always going to be active. Strained is good. Killer for Solo.

[oak flume]

does strained out perform measured?

[last schooner]

I think so, check the sticky with the spreadshets for DPS

[oak flume]

what

[mortal heath]

taking to much damage what should i change?

[silent storm]

Your play

[ivory abyss]

the use of cover

[gentle lichen]

Nothing wrong with the build
How are you approaching enemies?

[mortal heath]

when in cover i almost get one shot when i peak

[ivory abyss]

Use a decoy

[gentle lichen]

@pearl atlas

[lone wadi]

use decoy

[gentle lichen]

Work on trying to engage the least amount of enemies at one time so that not all of them can shoot you

[wet lake]

@ashen cosmos pls purge the infection!

[gentle lichen]

I wonder why there isn't a @ mod ping role

[mortal heath]

so random hahahaha

[silent storm]

It's the report function

[wet lake]

Sorry, I'm new here so I just looked at the side bar and @'d a mod I saw online

[ashen cosmos]

The unclean has been purged

[wet lake]

Question: Does Back and Forth work on both sides of the talent if you have one in each hand? It states you cant have two instances of it running, assuming with Tinkerer?

[gentle lichen]

Better to have it so you can ping all so whoever can moderate is immediately noticed

[gentle lichen]

Nah

[silent storm]

That's what report does

[gentle lichen]

Discord report?

[shy willow]

Modmail basically does the same thing iirc

[spare sky]

Hey everyone, do the turmoil kneepads work well with pestilence?

[azure ice]

Would anyone be able to help me with my build if I sent a screenshot?

[shy willow]

Not inherently

[shy willow]

Yeah sure just ask away in here

[azure ice]

I can send a screenshot

[subtle bluff]

send it

[azure ice]

You guys can ask about a piece and I can tell you

[azure ice]

Is that the best striker possible

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no..

[onyx sage]

it's the most "common use" variant

[subtle bluff]

There is no Overall Best for all situation.

[azure ice]

I’ve been enjoying the turmoil knees tho

I’ll build this one and try it out once I get that equalizer chest

CHC or CHD on the pieces?

[marble maple]

whats the firefly do here?

[azure ice]

Blinder

[onyx sage]

turmoil severely hurts your single target dps

[azure ice]

Should I use a decoy?

[shy willow]

Up to 50-60 crit chance then dump into chd

Make sure to account for gun mods and your watch

[shy willow]

It's a much better choice than the blinder for sure

[azure ice]

Ok thanks guys

Countdown my best chance for equalizer chest?

[willow sigil]

what ar talent do i use in group play? is it strained or optimist?

[subtle bluff]

measured

[azure ice]

@subtle bluff is countdown my best chance for equalizer chest?

[subtle bluff]

any where you can TL

[azure ice]

Okokokok

[willow sigil]

oh i was completly off

[azure ice]

😂

[silent storm]

1 Tier 5 run, holy moly did they screw up the integer when they buffed drops lol

[inland hound]

dont forget to open the gear crates mid mission 👀 they drop proto's like crazyyy

[silent storm]

Yeah I got a proto almost every crate lol

[exotic talon]

why ninjabike

[vernal wing]

Except when there is only one target. And it makes it easier to kill annoying targets hiding in cover

[onyx sage]

why do you have to put that disclaimer 💀

and enemies hiding in cover is not really a problem

[vernal wing]

Because people can’t read sometimes

[onyx sage]

well we make fun of those people here, and it doesn't really diminish my point whatsoever

[azure ice]

It was to make striker 4 piece and unit alloy 2 piece and the other thing but I’ve tried the build @subtle bluff sent and I don’t think I’ll be changing

[silent storm]

So I guess if you want a CoCo Pesti Proto build and aren't ExpLv30 The Art Museum is the place to be tonight

[azure ice]

Hopefully a unit alloys TL will be out in a few hours 👀🤞🤞🤞

[shy willow]

How dare you insult my illiteracy sir

[onyx sage]

sir, you are not illuminati

[outer wharf]

Can you share with me the build you’re using now?

[azure ice]

Yeah no problem just in a retal rn

[outer wharf]

Take your time

[queen mica]

what's a good weapon for an ongoing directive build?

[solar sable]

LMGs and Rifles go well with OD

picks are MG5/GR9 and UIC15/any rifle that has a great mag and handling

can u share what your build looks like?