td2-build-advice

[lone glacier]

But you can do T9 and T10 without proto

[woeful zodiac]

Any good Tinkerer build with TS?

[flint arch]

if you hate yourself that is

actually, you only do high tier escalation if you hate yourself anyway

[ivory abyss]

Just use tinkerer with TS lol

[lone glacier]

Then I hate myself because I've been doing T8/T9s without any proto gear

[woeful zodiac]

Ok but the named gear or the talents required?

[lone glacier]

Working on a HC character to do T10 ecals with as a "hehe funny meme" side quest

[ivory abyss]

Equalizer chest probably and if not then something else that fits

Whatever DPS talents you want

[woeful zodiac]

What abt the Contractors gloves?

[fair adder]

did they mention they'd make content where proto can be used elsewhere? or is the intended design just to be its own thing on escalation as a hamster wheel?

[ivory abyss]

they never mentioned anything

[lone glacier]

Should've allowed proto in Incursions and Raids for the memes

[flint arch]

proto can be used anywhere except pvp, raids and incursions

i blanked out and said "escalation" idfk why

[fair adder]

yes but why, those content can already be done easily without them XD

[flint arch]

because devs are very smort

and decided "yes we should definitely allow 'totally not level 50' gear into all forms of content without actually scaling anything"

[weak quail]

Is sacrum imperium good for anything other than keeping it in your stash until the double materials event?

[flint arch]

destined for the deconstruct button

[next dawn]

Stash exotic forever

[flint arch]

i wouldn't even stash that ngl even ninjabike bag has more uses than it

[weak quail]

I still need to rank it up, guess i will do it while using only the other gun 🤣

[lone glacier]

They just need to give us more Legendary difficulty content

[next dawn]

But im a collector

[weak quail]

The bag is actually good tbh, the knee pads on the other hand

[flint arch]

im deconstructing you too

[covert hatch]

is there any build where ninjabike is actually optimal, cuz its sick but it just seems like youre always missing damage with it

[flint arch]

bag is only good in pvp, in pve it's always the worse option in any build

[next dawn]

Huh

[next dawn]

No please

[lone glacier]

NBB like CS are noob traps

[weak quail]

Oh for sure, i just mean like it’s usable. Like, i won’t use it to rank it up and be in too much pain about it

[flint arch]

well yeah you can definitely still do solo heroic clears with it, its just not what youtubers claim it is

[weak quail]

Most youtubers are such slop, that’s on like every game tho

[flint arch]

amherst apartment 2.0

[covert hatch]

it is actually unreal that kamikazevondoom turns a 3 min video into 42 mins

[weak quail]

What’s the general consensus about diamondback here? Saw someone rank it as trash and me with my friend both enjoy its damage output so it had me wtf

[lone glacier]

Legendary Lincoln

[weak quail]

The longer the video is the less inclined i am to watch it

[soft crane]

good luck getting its talent up when the mark is on a tank.

[next dawn]

It's a unique taste

[flint arch]

pretty sure diamondback is like incredibly cumbersome to use and highly impractical outside of extremely specific situations

[frank grove]

He's also stealing builds/content from others

[soft crane]

Anyway I remember Amherst apartment in div 1, theres nothing there other than Amherst's body. Keener already robbed the place, literally.

[weak quail]

It does more damage to marked targets so it usually shreds, then again i have been pairing it with overdogs during my rank up shenanigans so that might explain it

[flint arch]

need that shit asap

[weak quail]

I love that mission idk why

[strong cave]

I want legendary Open World Difficulty

[flint arch]

god i hate the word "shred" so much, divtubers ruined it for me

[soft crane]

God Mode Solo Build New Meta

[strong cave]

"it hits" is my term

[covert hatch]

its fun to use but inconsistent so prolly just good for heroic

[flint arch]

and "destroys", "tank", "immortal", and other similar adjectives

[strong cave]

I've more than earned my right to say Tank

[weak quail]

Oh yeah definitely not my go to for Legendary

One gun i cant seem to find is harmony, like where are you

[strong cave]

When someone says "bullets", my job is to absorb them with my shield and blow my banshee at the enemies for that sweet sweet Smurf armor

[weak quail]

I have like 5 test subjects but harmony eludes me

[flint arch]

i used the pointmanize build a while back in DUA, i wasn't that great at it and i'm not sure whether dien actually got any benefit out of it considering how "average" and "casual" he is

[frank grove]

Galvanize?

[strong cave]

He would have to run it with me behind the shield 👊

[covert hatch]

thats a dz drop right

[weak quail]

I find this comment so gold because you almost always see them together

[flint arch]

sometimes i forget galvanize bonus armor has a radius

[weak quail]

Fok

[strong cave]

Yeah finding that radius is the tricky part. I have to sometimes time that proc

[flint arch]

CS is the new FB and i hate it so much

[weak quail]

What’s FB?

[flint arch]

foundry bulwark

[strong cave]

That's when you DPS guys start taking unnecessary damage because you're waiting for that proc

[lone glacier]

full red FB NBB build

[soft crane]

Facebook.

[weak quail]

At least that one makes shields better

[flint arch]

i would rather run 6 blue PVGC Striker

[covert hatch]

just do countdowns and open named caches with countdown points, should get one eventually

[weak quail]

Disgusting

[weak quail]

Thanks

[strong cave]

1 irremovable blue core:

[lone glacier]

I'll make it removable

[soft crane]

Ey, looking at clowns who thinks their builds are good in facebook provides good entertainment from time to time. Try it out yourself.

[strong cave]

He's got a point

[flint arch]

full red system corruption build with obli + overdogs

[strong cave]

Salt in my wounds

[weak quail]

I used to do that on other games but i stopped using facebook almost a year now. Can’t blame you for still doing that tho now that you mention it

[strong cave]

I don't wanna decon any of my pieces bc I need 3. To craft a bag. Which might not even drop CHD

[lone glacier]

I'm currently setting up Chows jack of all trades off support because Im at the point where i just want to meme around

[strong cave]

I will live with having 1 blue core. At least I'm not broke and can still expertise @flint arch

[flint arch]

i hate you

[strong cave]

9,000 points, buddy. Look only, no touch

[rain fox]

@strong cave can I swap the bag and foxes prayer 2 2 piece bells tone 1 regen 10% armour on kil

[strong cave]

I would advise again swapping out foxes. You can use liquid engineer backpack, that is acceptable. If you don't mind losing some crit damage (Grupo gloves), using Belstone would be fine too

(Liquid Engineer is named Belstone bag w/ perfect Bloodsucker)

So in this case replace Palisades bag w/ Liquid Engineer, then swap Grupo gloves with Belstone for your 2 piece Belstone idea

[rain fox]

OK well I want the extra aok but I'm not keen on the rifle damage from foxes does the dtoc make up for lose 1 brand set

[strong cave]

Is that your goal?

[flint arch]

i guess

[strong cave]

It does, yes. It's more damage to targets out of cover which is very strong for shotguns

[next dawn]

Ngl system corruption is mid

[flint arch]

actually no, i would run PGC because i have a big ego

[strong cave]

I'm hosting a sys corr only raid April 24th

[next dawn]

Dang I'm not invited

[strong cave]

Both setups would've been fine negl

[rain fox]

OK I'll stick with your set up just though I would try using pieces I already got as I have to farm the rest but I'll get to it soon

[strong cave]

Come join. We need players. Badly

[next dawn]

Hmm I'll think bout it

[strong cave]

Should be easy negl

[flint arch]

too bad i have midterms and i am 1 sys corr component away from crafting a bp

[rain fox]

Ye just gotta spend the time later it's all good thanks for the build anyways I'll be definitely using later

[strong cave]

Farming it should be relatively easy. I managed to piece it together with stuff I had in my stash

[exotic talon]

i feel like overdogs and obliterate ceska could make anything work in the hands of a good player lol

[next dawn]

i think I have a sys corrup build ready Ill have to check

[strong cave]

Well, on a burst gearset like Sys, those kits are going to be our source of damage

Which they have a 20s cooldown....

[hazy steeple]

@strong cave No advertising. You can post an LFG down in #lfg-raid-pc to find people.

[willow tartan]

Guys, I don’t understand amp damage too much. The build is 60.00 crit chance with as many crit damage mods as possible. My only question is, on the mk46 attribute should I put crit damage or damage to armour, health, etc due to amp damage??

Oh it didn’t put a picture

Build is 4 ongoing directive, ceska backpack and tinkerer

[strong cave]

I figured it would get nuked. Sucks we can't post LFG artwork in the LFG channels

[next dawn]

lmg you want crit chance or crit damage depending on if your crit is maxed out

[strong cave]

Crit chance usually, or if good enough crit then go with rate of fire

[lone glacier]

@flint arch Imma do full yellow striker because I can

[next dawn]

lol

yellow core striker is funny

[lone glacier]

Ooh. The start up picture on the stream looking nice 👀

[copper yarrow]

i'm bored af with Striker so wanted to try something new.

[soft crane]

k

[hazy steeple]

@slate island No Self promo.

[slate island]

If I can't show my build how can I possibly get advice to improve it?

[grim bluff]

Post a screenshot or type it out then

[hazy steeple]

An image of the main build inventory page, and one of the stats screen where your crit stats are, are all we need to see.

[slate island]

Ok does anything beat full striker with salvo and ceska and frenzy lmg for DPS. I'm at 78.8 million DPS with this looking for ways to improve it

[lone glacier]

Don't trust the shooting range.

[slate island]

I don't but it's a way to test as is solo legendary..... I'll say check my build out but I can't link it and if you Google my channel nothing comes up I'm not a content creator

[calm nacelle]

Just screenshot your build. Many variables you left out that nobody here can guess to give the best advice

[next dawn]

I'm struggling with trying to help you ngl not enough info to go off from...

[slate island]

Pretty much think I'm using the hardest hitting build in the game but any improvement is welcome I'll send shots of the pieces now

[hexed steppe]

Most people think the same

[next dawn]

I'm loosing brain cells

Hardest hitting build so a determined sniper build

[hexed steppe]

Get out

[next dawn]

Aka hotdog

[unique lotus]

"I basically have the best build in the game" doesn't show it

[hexed steppe]

Determined

[next dawn]

Noo please dad I was wrong

[hexed steppe]

Build a mortar setup and youll be forgiven of this sin

[next dawn]

Mortar build isn't that bad tbh sure

[hexed steppe]

Holy f

[next dawn]

Bruh what is this a gallery

[lone glacier]

Ive been building a mortar build to use against the scared enemies in t9/t10 escals

[slate island]

He said send pics of the build and stats

[lone glacier]

Well one things for sure, overdogs would make it even stronger

[next dawn]

Mortar builds are so fun

[last nexus]

That's DZ exclusive though?

[slate island]

But I loose crit from ceska or the fire rate from salvo

[coral reef]

hey mortardeck have you taken the mortar supremacy build to escalation mode?

its kinda amazing

[slate island]

And idd lose an augment

[calm nacelle]

@slate island drop salvo and slot in contractors/ overdogs / coyotes depending on preference

[hexed steppe]

I have, but not to high level. Just what I've matchmake into. Works well

[coral reef]

oh yeah above T3 it does not do enough damage per boom

[slate island]

It's really worth the loss of fire rate and an augment? Have you tested this.... Echo is op

[lone glacier]

overdogs is a permanent 30% amp

[unique lotus]

30% extra

[hexed steppe]

You could lose ceska for it and readjust your mods to compensate

[slate island]

Yeh but in t10 fire rate meens less time out of cover

[slate island]

My mods are all cc

[calm nacelle]

Not permanent, its conditional on hitting the right mob tier.

[lone glacier]

If you hit the right ones it is permanent.

[hexed steppe]

Does your lmg have chc 3rd attribute?

[calm nacelle]

It's a small drop, more dmg per shot will work out better in the long run IMO

[calm nacelle]

Until you stop hitting them, then it stops. So not permanent at all

[slate island]

Ok you know what if anyone out DPS me in best out of three t10. I'll switch to there build... And give them my proto drops for a whole day's farming

[unique lotus]

LMAO WHAT, WHY WOULD PERMANENT DAMAGE MATTER IF YOUR NOT SHOOTING ANYTHING AHAHA

[calm nacelle]

When your hitting the wrong tier, not shooting nothing

[unique lotus]

so just shoot the right tier? and then it IS permanent?

[slate island]

Lmg has low crit so until I roll maxed proto I'm running cc on lmg

Only got one g roll atm

[hexed steppe]

Isnt salvo/hollowman kinda whats being used in escalation lately?

Correct me if wrong

[slate island]

Yeh for the extra damage to reds

[calm nacelle]

Are you able to keep up the striker stacks in t10 escalation to justify the chest piece? Maybe try perfect obliterate? That's more preference. YMMV

[lone glacier]

Hollowman more than salvo

Its usually Hollowman, ceska gloves and 4pc striker in my experience

[mild flame]

Interesting.....you run that with equalizer and overdogs?

[slate island]

I have unlimited ammo stack broker

[gentle lichen]

what
ads in escalation have hundreds of millions of hp

[calm nacelle]

Doesn't work that well in escalation, you need to prioritise threat over tiers and will be down more than up on that bonus dmg

[calm nacelle]

If you can keep your head up long enough to maintain the 2nd 100 stacks then go for it. It can be tough to do at t10, hence YMMV

[slate island]

Stacks not an issue

[calm nacelle]

Range is a little different to escalation t10. Lol I meant in combat, but if its not an issue then it doesn't matter

It was a personal preference suggestion not BIS at all

[slate island]

This melts up to t7 with blindfire.... But even unlimited shorty isn't a powerful as the lmg I pull out when I really need to send damage down range

[calm nacelle]

Honestly though if your cleaning up t10 then your build is already 👍

[slate island]

Might try contractors in place of the salvo but really think the fire rate is better for this build

[slate island]

My reason for playing this game is chasing peak DPS so it's not enough ever

I take my role seriously....

[calm nacelle]

Lol yeah I know what you mean

Chasing that high

[slate island]

Tbh t10 is like story mode now with my group... Future birdy heal. Rannsams Aron keener cc build and two dps

[slate island]

I got bored of the game before proto all I played was legendary and the manhunts for years this is great I love the grind to the top

I'm not even the most skilled player I don't think I'm pushing 40 and my reaction time is low... But I've not been out damaged for half a decade cause of my relentless chase for the highest numbers possible lol can't do PvP anymore 😭 tho.... I was peak in the halo 3 days

[halcyon crater]

realistically salvo makes it so you fire too fast as to have 100% uptime on frenzy, just something to consider

[slate island]

I have paradox.... Getting about 300 shots from my lmg.... Without salvo frenzy ends before the mag is empty

I posted a video a few posts back of the stack broker never having to reload

[lone wadi]

youre getting 300 shots from an 150 shot mk46?

you have 2 paradox but thats nowhere enough

[lone wadi]

also this is just really nice for flexibility to allow you to hide in cover for a bit or switch positions and still have full frenzy uptime

[cunning crescent]

can cent holster roll w diff attributes?

other than crit chance

[versed summit]

No

[patent fossil]

No, Acostas knees and the new mask are the only exotic armour pieces with variable attributes

[grizzled garnet]

what was ubi thinking with the blacklisters knees? its just a significantly worse version of pgc

[next dawn]

More Amp damage to everyone other then the guy you marked

[grizzled garnet]

but pgc does the same without needing to worry about marks

with 10% more

[next dawn]

Ofc

[versed summit]

Its also a chest talent, not kneepads...

Blacklisters is pretty wonky to use, and on paper a hard sell compared to Overdogs.

[grizzled garnet]

im aware but with blacklisters youre also losing an exotic talent

[versed summit]

Its a 20% amp though

Not like there's a lot of exo talents that give that

[grizzled garnet]

looks like overdogs just really overshadows alot of exotics

[versed summit]

The issue is mostly just having yo worry about the mechanic tbh. Not the increased damage taken

[versed summit]

Overrateddogs imo

[grizzled garnet]

to each their own ig

[civic meteor]

Tempting to drop the armour cores

Issue is I’m so bad at the game I kinda need them

[next dawn]

Hm

[smoky latch]

That won't help you much

Practice, adjust and learn

[lone wadi]

using longer range weapons might help

makes you less push-happy than with chameleon

[weak quail]

I personally found the visionario mask very useful for ranking up guns with crap range

Made them more usable

[civic meteor]

Hmm

[flint arch]

i can't even refute this, i lowkey agree with this to a degree

[civic meteor]

Perhaps when I up the expertise more I’ll be more comfortable with dropping them im more concerned about the regen rate on the shield

[lavish badger]

good, or?

[next dawn]

Ninja bike 🤮

[lavish badger]

ok, why?

[flint arch]

ninjabike bag will be worse than running a striker bag. losing the backpack talent hurts you way more than any stats you can get by mix and matching brand/gear sets

[next dawn]

Corrupt you do it before I rip this poor man's build

[flint arch]

in general, NBB is always the worse option in any PVE build

[next dawn]

It's on a striker too 😭

-0.9% damage per stack

[smoky latch]

You're apparently "concerned" about the wrong things :p

[lavish badger]

In that case, what would you recommend replacing? Just the backpack?

[flint arch]

striker backpack, overdogs if you have them

[next dawn]

Replace the backpack with a striker backpack and the umbra mask with striker and get overdogs gloves, if you don't have overdogs coyotes mask is a good substitute

[lavish badger]

Yeah, I have them. Okay, I'll rebuild the build and send you a screenshot.

[cunning crescent]

best non contractor named gloves for damage?

[next dawn]

Ceska gloves are pretty good

[cunning crescent]

non crit based*

[next dawn]

Overdogs

[steep siren]

chat what would do more damage, this or TP backpack + overdogs

[smoky latch]

A better gear set would do more damage :p

[next dawn]

TS would do more damage.

[cunning crescent]

What I’m working on

All Hs or handling where possible

[steep siren]

[steep siren]

aight ty

[smoky latch]

True Patriot is for supporting other players. Have you tried CoCo yet with Pestilence?

[steep siren]

i want true patriot

[cunning crescent]

Does optimal range impact drop off only or does it affect aim assist?

[steep siren]

if it makes you feel better. i do 1mill proc with pesti

[smoky latch]

Then you gotta live with the facts it's not strong. Use a different LMG, Pestilence doesn't benefit from TP

[next dawn]

Drop off

[short verge]

all pun intended, whats the core strength of the Core Strength gear set?

its like "okay, i got really great base stats, what else could i do with all this weapon damage, armor, and skill tiers?"

[next dawn]

It's a meh gear set its a master of none across the board

[final rivet]

I personally run 4-5 Yellow Cores + Capacitor, real fun in a ton of missions (and I hear it's ridiculous in PvP)

[unreal gazelle]

Current striker meta, looking fine

[cunning crescent]

Hmmm so I may want to focus on close range weapons for this build

[steep siren]

It does tho. The amplified dmg amps pesti. although not much, it still does.

It's a pretty fun alternative however.

[smoky latch]

Yeah it's so little I would not call it a benefit

It's a fun group support build, but yeah, not strong

[short verge]

i had this same idea one time before, let me give this a try in a few more situations

[steep siren]

Not strong but it's not weak. I'm sure if they fixed the explosion damage it would be better.

[smoky latch]

I wish they would re-work/buff it because the idea of it is really good

[steep siren]

Because the damage is comes from your health and armor and not the enemies health and armor.

If it was from the enemies, the explosion would just easily kill the mobs.

[final rivet]

One of my personal favorite setups is Capacitor, Core Strength and Waveform with Striker Drone and Assault Turret. But feel free to run what you like. I think Core Strength is much more customizable and I (and others alike) don't really think about it often.

[patent fossil]

Would scale with escalation too, which would be hilarious

[steep siren]

this

[smoky latch]

Oh hell yeah

[steep siren]

TP is good. it's just bugged af.

[wraith hull]

This may be a dumb question, I'm coming back after 5-6 years. I run the healdrone 24/7, is there a logical way that everyone is handling armor repair/Leech (for a lack of better term) to self-sustain in general content?

[final rivet]

You could try the Refactor set if you like using tech. The outgoing skill damage returns to you and allies as Skill Repair.

[next dawn]

I think you will find the refractor gear set to your liking

[wraith hull]

Thank you!

[noble pelican]

I'd argue people "think about" CS all the time, given that every content creator on earth is trying to make it work.

It's also the easily most overhyped and misrepresented one in a while, however lol

[patent fossil]

Many people get by on the armour on kill from gunner, avoiding damage through careful positioning, one shot protection, and armour regen after the fight is over

[wraith hull]

Thank you. I need to finish my specializations

[patent fossil]

And the occasional armour kit I guess

[final rivet]

Oh yeah for sure, but what I meant by my message was that more often than not we forget how customizable and modular the set really is!

[noble pelican]

Health gating is also a fairly big part that most people aren't aware off.

[patent fossil]

That's what I meant by one shot protection

[noble pelican]

Oh, i somehow missed that part lol

[final rivet]

Like theoretically you could pick up CS in the form of floor loot (like stuff that's otherwise trash to us endgame players) and it'd somehow still work, given its talent(s). Nowhere near as strong as a fully optimized build but it's still fairly usable in a multitude of ways. At least that's how I saw it

[noble pelican]

Which isn't a lot of value, if you can farm a half-way decent set in a couple of rounds in Countdown.

[final rivet]

[alpine wigeon]

What do you think is the best assault rifle for a CHC CHD build?

[final rivet]

I'd pick Lexington or Shield Splinterer, but there are too many good choices out there.

[next dawn]

Depends

[versed summit]

They're all pretty well balanced

[dreamy valve]

I’m seeing if First Bloom will work in Escalations, combined with Hollow man

[zenith rose]

Hey guys, trying out TS build with Big Alejandro. It's okish, but takes soo long to ramp up damage. Any way to fix that? Perhaps another weapon or something? That's how it looks right now, still have to level it up tho. Trying Bullet King right now.

[lone wadi]

Drop the TS chest for equalizer

[zenith rose]

Still working on it. I have 2 but they are shit. 2 yellow small cores

[dreamy valve]

I think Bullet King is better with tipping scales anyway

[lone wadi]

Bullet king just has poop damage

[dreamy valve]

Heroic it’s good, escalations yeah not

[flint arch]

BK has okay to good-ish sustained damage but ass burst damage

[dreamy valve]

Bullet king has great sustained, no reload interruptions, so it benefits from tipping scales shooting stacks

[cunning crescent]

is there a scope that tells you the range of what you are shooting at?

for rifle or smg?

[subtle bluff]

the talent ranger does

[smoky latch]

Some talents do

Maybe Ranger only, not sure rn

[buoyant perch]

Iirc, close and personal also has range indicator

[alpine wigeon]

Killer or Flatline for Heartbreaker primary weapon talent?

[next dawn]

Flatline

[subtle bluff]

Solo Killer and Flatline group imo

[toxic frigate]

so

the prototype skill core give 1.5 now?

[next dawn]

After the maintenance yes

[toxic frigate]

they also fixing abriged talent

[versed summit]

Flatline has 100% uptime. Killer does not give enough damage IMO to make it worthwhile over flatline.

[fringe walrus]

Is umbra a good set for dps/survivability?

[toxic frigate]

just run Flatline for HB tbh, as you also need to have enemy pulsed

[next dawn]

Its more of a pvp set

But to answer your question kinda its a mix of both worlds

I would choose Heartbreaker over it

[fringe walrus]

Is it a good PvP set?

[toxic frigate]

still good, people mostly running CS now

[fringe walrus]

Is heartbreaker good in pve I’ve only ever seen it in PvP

[toxic frigate]

yeah, heartbreaker good in pve, bad in PVP

[next dawn]

It's very solid in pve

It's just does umbra better imo

[fringe walrus]

I see

[toxic frigate]

i think because there's windup for making it useful, you just lost dps on it

heck, even High end gears is better for pvp on correct setup

[fringe walrus]

I was using a cs skill build but lost to armor regen big horn and wanted to cry 🙂

[toxic frigate]

it is what it is tbh

[fringe walrus]

Yeah

[toxic frigate]

though i dont touch pvp because my ping is ass, the closest one i do is DZ tbh

really just low cortisol gaming for me

[fringe walrus]

It was just insane to me to that I lost because my skills was hitting him and I was shooting him and I lost the fight

[covert hatch]

yeah its great for retaliations

[fringe walrus]

Might make a heartbreaker build

[next dawn]

It's a good gear set

It's striker with extra steps and survivability ontop

[covert hatch]

HB chest with memento is pretty good, also chest + backpack with blue rolled investor

[fringe walrus]

The most recent build I’ve been running a lot is a heal build

[toxic frigate]

yep HB is practically have both balanced firepower and survivalbility

its still not the best dpm focused gear (it's still striker) but still pretty good

[next dawn]

FI or refactor or HE

[fringe walrus]

Fi

[toxic frigate]

you can try, Bittersweet

[next dawn]

Classic

[fringe walrus]

What these other 2

[covert hatch]

red HB with the chest is pretty close to striker with backpack

[toxic frigate]

HE = High end / yellow gears
Refactor = gear set where heal cames from skill damage

[fringe walrus]

I see

[toxic frigate]

i think refactor one is kinda iffy tbh

[fringe walrus]

Also what’s this?

[toxic frigate]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/11Fml-LNlrvfoFtnZcTwb6gxjKqhySmN-g4NqiqFBjDw/edit

if you kinda bit masochist doing both healing and damage

[teal ibex]

does discovery raid works for journey? last one i gotta finish

[next dawn]

Headshots stacks up to 8 stack and shooting a teammate will heal their armor but also give them bonus armor to some ratio of your skill heal

[fringe walrus]

I’m intrigued

[fringe walrus]

I see

[toxic frigate]

the bittersweet itself will proc headshot everywhere after you heal team mates, so its just like the first 8 shot you need to manage

[next dawn]

It's a good rifle just annoying to proc

[toxic frigate]

yep

[fringe walrus]

I may give it a try

[toxic frigate]

its really good rifle but annoying to procs the skill

[next dawn]

Stacks are also lost out of combat

[toxic frigate]

otherwise, stick to FI tbh

[willow garnet]

any good build for escalation? expertise lvl 3. SHD 850

tier 2 at least

[toxic frigate]

Striker

[solar sable]

for tiers lower than 5 your standard Strikers will do, for higher tiers ceska gloves, Hollow Man and 4pc Strikers

[toxic frigate]

weapon of your choice, but my personal favourite is M249 with Frenzy

[lone wadi]

if you dont have hollowman can run contractors or overdogs

[smoky latch]

You can run Contractor's anyway. Overdogs not recommended

Just get a Hollow Man so you are more versatile depending on the Escalation mission

[toxic frigate]

does hollow man drops tmrow from event enemy

[smoky latch]

No

[toxic frigate]

nope

yep i guess good luck farming that on DZ, or just find someone with houndsman bounty

[lone wadi]

you might not always be able to take full advantage of it's talent, like when chungas rush you, but having some target prioritization for some enemies is not that hard

[smoky latch]

Do Retaliations to get its crafting blueprint. Forget about random RNG farming

[toxic frigate]

oh right that exist too

[smoky latch]

Hence I said to get both to be more versatile, being able to adapt

[toxic frigate]

but you still need to farm yaahl parts

[smoky latch]

Did you not buy Yaahl items from the vendor recently?

[toxic frigate]

wait there's yaahl items on sale?

[lone wadi]

ah missed that mb

[smoky latch]

The clan vendor offered a backpack last week

[toxic frigate]

oh i did that yeah

[smoky latch]

Then you're good. But yeah, otherwise DZ only to get the Yaahl fabric

[toxic frigate]

i still doesnt have Hollowman with chc roll

[smoky latch]

If you are crazy and have too many materials (for whatever reason) you can craft random HE items and pray you get some Yaahl items here and there

[toxic frigate]

nah that too much lmao

[smoky latch]

Yeah, just mentioning it lol

[timid crown]

Question, while using Tinkerer & 2 M870 Express Shotguns (High End), I want to use both the Killer & Pummel traits. When testing, I can see Pummel getting activated, but I am missing killer. how can I tell both are being activated? (I know Killer only shows via Shotgun ADS but that is overwritten by Pummels ADS) Does this work?

[atomic pebble]

❓ ❓
Which one is better for a Vector SBR 9mm?
My primary is ST Elmo Engine.
I am going to use this only when I am out of mag instead of reloading.
❓ ❓

[smoky latch]

Measured, Killer, Unwavering are good options

[atomic pebble]

is measured more damage than streamline?

[smoky latch]

Only a tiny bit less. Streamline doesn't do what you think it does and it limits you due to not being able to use skills

[atomic pebble]

I have reviver hive and crusader shield. What does it do exactly?

[smoky latch]

You don't really get a 42% damage increase. Let me link you an explanation

[atomic pebble]

goofy game :/

[next dawn]

It mean that while your skill is active or on cooldown you don't get the 42%

[smoky latch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/1mq83hw/streamline_is_overrated_the_42_bonus_is/

[atomic pebble]

ooooh, lmao

[fringe walrus]

What would be a good survivability backpack talent?

I was using bloodsucker but it feels kinda mid

[solar sable]

well uh, what's your build?

[fringe walrus]

High end dps

[solar sable]

tough decision

[fringe walrus]

Oh?

[solar sable]

I was thinking maybe you could use Preservation but you sacrifice your dmg talent

[coral reef]

any madman here with a fully upgraded prototyped red build with all Echo?

[coral reef]

if you HAVE to put some survivavility on a full red build (don't) I think the best bang for your buck are the Exodus gloves

no need for Exodus gloves this season though, since you recover the revive hive so fast with the season modifiers

[fringe walrus]

I have a strong hatred for those gloves

[coral reef]

they are the best for a full red/perfect glass cannon build

[fringe walrus]

🤷‍♂️ still hate them

[sterile chasm]

How can I improve my crit hit chance? do I just need to farm mods

[coral reef]

15 seconds (!!!) revive hive reload vs. 40 seconds Exodus gloves talent reload, it's ridiculous

[coral reef]

in a full red dps build

[coral reef]

farm mods and more SHD levels, take your time agent

[next dawn]

farm mods, and increase shd level (its give so much) and get better gear that is all

[sterile chasm]

OH, I never realized my watch gave some

I've been doing the first square in each box, maybe I should've not been

[next dawn]

it gives 20% crit chance and 25% crit damage

if you max it out

[lament reef]

bro has the dlc watch

[sterile chasm]

yeah I feel silly, i've been just doing the first boxes

[next dawn]

na bro has the micro transaction one

[sterile chasm]

DLC watch?

[coral reef]

its ok to level that one also, i would argue that its even more important than CHC

[lament reef]

not in the slightest

[next dawn]

tbh you will eventually max it out so no need to worry

[sterile chasm]

fair enough

[lament reef]

CHC is number 1 priority

[sterile chasm]

40 with just mods feels like a lot in this case

do gear mods max out at 6% though?

[fringe walrus]

What’s the dlc watch

[next dawn]

Crit hit chance max out at 6% yes

[mint otter]

What’s quickest way to get shade lvls?

[lament reef]

i was making a joke about how him saying 20% and 25% from the watch is wrong, it is 10% and 20%

[next dawn]

Heroic Control points with 5 directives

[sterile chasm]

I would need the watch then at some point anyways, cause if I maxed out my mods i'd be at 45% unless I took off some crit damage mods

[fringe walrus]

I see I was confused

[cerulean smelt]

Warlords if new York watch which we call shd levels which caps out at 1k for stats

[next dawn]

the watch will start you off at 20 crit chance and 25% crit damage so yes

[sterile chasm]

I thought maxing out would give me 10%? so if I max my current mods and the watch i'd have 55% crit chance

[next dawn]

a fully max out shd watch will give 20% crit hit chance and 25% crit hit damage

[sterile chasm]

oh is there like bonus stats for a completed one?

[next dawn]

no no

[sterile chasm]

i'm confused then? 0.2 per level and there's 50 levels?

[solar sable]

no, 10% CHC and 20% CHD

[next dawn]

lies

[lament reef]

what are you talking about

[next dawn]

I been misguided?

[solar sable]

Robertina told me

[lament reef]

dawg you can open the game and look at your watch

does it say 20% and 25% or 10% and 20%

[fringe walrus]

i knew i wasnt schizo

[inland hound]

can confirm right now in 4k, 10% and 20% 👁️ 👄 👁️

[next dawn]

I been lied to ill be back once I killed the guy who lied to me

[fringe walrus]

i wish you luck

[next dawn]

Im taking them to the DZ and executing them

[onyx sage]

base char: 0% chc 25% chd
with maxed shd watch: 10% chc 45% chd (watch gives 10% chc 20% chd)

just for the record

[next dawn]

I murked my friend 5-0 in the dz for lieing to me

[low walrus]

Thoughts on my comfy build? About as optimized as a pug, I know, but I just think infinite* spec ammo is fun.

[limpid pelican]

fahhh

[next dawn]

Oh lord

[versed summit]

You're doing too much

[limpid pelican]

maybe you're just not doing enough?

[low walrus]

Yeah, having a hard time finding a sort of niche to fit into.

I probably wouldn't run this in higher difficulty content, but for just running around freeroam it's pretty fun.

[next dawn]

the chill build I can respect that

[limpid pelican]

nah take that shit straight into incursion matchmaking 🗣️

[sterile chasm]

what's an easier way for me to figure out overdogs in countdown? since in challenging almost everything is yellow

[low walrus]

Always having a few rounds of 50 cal in the back pocket sure makes dealing with tanks a lot easier, at least.

[next dawn]

i wouldnt recommend countdown for exotic farming, your best bet would be retaliations or floor 10 summit

[low walrus]

It's not based on enemy rank, but their role.

In a nutshell, start with the basic dudes, and save anyone that uses mechanical tools for last.

[next dawn]

signiture weapons becomes obsolete at higher difficulty content

[sterile chasm]

oh I thought that was the method? but otherwise I was questioning how the gloves work in total

[next dawn]

Yes they do have a chance in droping in countdown but its just not the right thing to do

[sterile chasm]

Doesn't a lot of the tier 2 and 3 then hurt me? trying to get the damage buff

[low walrus]

I can imagine, with how many rounds some of these buggers can soak up, and how annoying it is to get more spec ammo most of the time.

But I'd mostly be using them as a panic button or to crack armor anyways.

[next dawn]

the answer to that is YES

[tired plover]

wym 50 cal is always used in endgame content to break chunga heads or to start headhunting

[next dawn]

not really that goes to the crossbow

[sterile chasm]

How does Summit or Retal gamemodes work in that case? Can I also do stuff like focus shotguns, mods and such? I think I can with the summit at least

[low walrus]

Thankfully, there's a lotta grey area in what counts as what for the tiers. But like I said, as long as you save the tool users for last, you should be good, I think.

[tired plover]

😐 what

crossbow almost entirely used for razorback in dark hours or grenade launcher. thats damn near its only use

sharpshooter 50 cal is used in lots of endgame content

[low walrus]

Tech's rocket launcher is fun, but the missiles take so long to get there that half the time they duck behind cover again.

[tired plover]

but thats obviously assuming we're using meta headhunter builds

[sterile chasm]

Wait, ima just keep doing countdown cause I get the coins for the countdown exotic caches too? Is that not the move. Then again I mainly just need a good ACS12 right now and mods until I move on to my 2nd ever build

[tired plover]

technically if you want to farm exotics just do retaliations for the blueprints and knock out 2 birds with 1 stone

[normal shadow]

Can you remember off the top of your head which faction has Hollow Man bp?

[tired plover]

whilst farming builds/guns that you want to get

[next dawn]

its not just used for that.. the reason why its used is cuz it does more damage to armor and weakpoints

[smoky latch]

None. It's a random blueprint from Reconstructed Caches

[next dawn]

over the 50 cal

[low walrus]

I usually prefer crossbow over the 50 cal, because I can't aim for shit.

[tired plover]

😂 nobody is using crossbow in endgame content twin. 1 use, dark hours razorback

[smoky latch]

Anderson Manhunt climax mission also. Basically for any chunga

[low walrus]

50 cal's really nice for the Marauder copters, too.

[next dawn]

@smoky latch slap some sense into this dummy

[smoky latch]

Nah

[next dawn]

bruh

[smoky latch]

Pointless

[peak sphinx]

Escalation tier 10 federal bunker boss the chunga.. 2 xbow shots on chest ( or head if aim is good) and his armour is gone and then he dies really fast. So for armour plate breaking its just really good

[next dawn]

fair

[low walrus]

I think the only spec weapon I haven't really enjoyed much is the flamethrower.

It's kinda hard to close the distance in higher difficulties, even with the shield, and the damage is kinda underwhelming.

At least it's really easy to get ammo for.

[next dawn]

wait why are I auguring about this, no point in explain to someone that doesn't want to listen. You hella smart INF

[tired plover]

i wish you were right but it's just not the case. show me 1 speed running scenario where anyone's using a crossbow in any endgame content aside from dh. they're not. it's 50 cal for headhunter. crossbow = razorback 🙂

[smoky latch]

Speed running is not really general endgame. It's just a niche way of endgame

[tired plover]

😂

the strat and standards apply, regardless of how fast it's being cleared

[next dawn]

I can see why you don't response to people, some people just dont want to listen good man

[smoky latch]

Jsut saying that the xbow is generally nice to use on chungas to break armor plates

[normal shadow]

I see, thanks very much!

[low walrus]

I haven't been playing super long, but the general impression I get is that 50 cal is better for taking helmets off or obliterating high priority targets, but crossbow's overall better for armor cracking or clearing out groups.

Though it's generally easier to get 50 cal ammo over crossbow.

[next dawn]

the bow has a piercing feature that good at breaking through chungus armor

which I didn't know it had

[low walrus]

Oh sweet. Sorta like a shaped charge? That's cool.

[next dawn]

ye

[limpid pelican]

i am not shooting chungas with a crossbow bro. why the fk do i have survivalist on

[low walrus]

Because seeing the healing rollie-pollie following me around makes me happy.

[next dawn]

lol

[limpid pelican]

no faraday, no sharpshooter, what is bro saying

[limpid pelican]

pvp healer 🤝

[next dawn]

flamethrower is fun

[peak sphinx]

I have been running survivalist spec mainly lately on the higher escalationtiers. Apart from the utility the xbow has on chungas its also a nice buff to team in npc's get a status on them

[limpid pelican]

for support it's goated yeah

definitely use it when foaming/ccing

[peak sphinx]

Most fun imo is the minigun ( few seasons ago were you had unlimited ammo X amount of seconds) that was great

[gentle lichen]

too bad it makes you move like an old man with arthritis

[low walrus]

The bonus armor from the minigun has saved my ass a few times.

[gentle lichen]

while chungas ingame get on top of cars and climb walls no problemo

[peak sphinx]

Yea true but if you pop it in the middle of a group you dont need to run just turn around a go BRAAAPPPP

[limpid pelican]

survivalist team kit is so good as well

[gentle lichen]

i don' think that's an appropriate sound

[normal shadow]

Hang on. Do I need to run Retaliations until I have all blueprints and then I'll get reconstructed caches that might have Hollow Man?

[low walrus]

That's because they're acrofatic.

[peak sphinx]

Dont judge my soundmaking skills (lack off)

[gentle lichen]

you seen one after stripping their armor?? built like a brick house

[next dawn]

chunky bois

[low walrus]

Dude eats nails for breakfast without any milk.

[gentle lichen]

#divashion message

[next dawn]

give him a hug trust

[tired plover]

Yeah that's damn near the only time survivalist is good. Putting your team on a team kit in pvp with surv, heal seeking mine pvp, or like ccing. But 9x/10 if you're ccing, your headhunters fury guys are gonna pop chungas with shotty or reg so idk

[gentle lichen]

you don't use mender seeker mine lmao
though survivalist medkit might be one of the best ways to be a team support with everyday carrier

[tired plover]

you 100% do. idk how deep you've gone into pvp, but there's generally 2 diff heal builds in pvp. seeker mine or hive with btsu

[smoky latch]

You run Retaliations to accumulate Retal. mats. Then you craft Reconstructed Caches with them

[gentle lichen]

yeah man idk what kinda pvp you're doing

[tired plover]

you play playstation. all it's good for is 1vs or server fighting randoms. come to pc or xbox and u might learn a thing or two :p

[gentle lichen]

i did come to pc played a lil at least before a cheater just killed every rogue and went inside checkpoint
i don't think it'll work especially in pc since all it takes is a bh burst or regulus 2 tap

[alpine wigeon]

Which 1886 Headhunter build do you think is better?

1.) https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwBgtMDsYCwWBmM4XLajyBcAmAnPHMImAKwAc6VmGWMOh8SoN1bIWpBMxR7-NTpV7xWY6riJI+42dmAJpEYMVQA2UgKxyx2gVuB6dR-SCA

2. https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/GwFgtATGDMYIw3sAHGADOzHtawLggE54xwFYBWVHG3GvEKBMxONWju9PC4kZkpyF0eqAQmGTuEMrBZTJeONDnw4EzMApdsSlaUjBcWndwU6lec2iumaQA

[tired plover]

no healer is going to help you over a fast reggy 2 tap before hive registers

[gentle lichen]

top tier healer exotic is birdie and nothing much comes close not to mention btsu doesn't give oc but still gives hive haste and whatnot
not worth the exotic commitment imo

[tired plover]

it's a hot swap

as is everyday carrier like u mentioned for oc

[gentle lichen]

yeah hotswapping has to be much easier there
all i can do for swapping is to put a tardi when im away from team

[next dawn]

2 is better imo

[tired plover]

healing is hella nuanced and im not the best, but i can promise u bro, ik the biggest healer pvp nerds. they main seeker. hive is almost only for faraday

seeker mine at 30 expertise is insane. should give it a try

[gentle lichen]

self healer core strength type shit?

[tired plover]

nah fi team healer

[gentle lichen]

not much into support roles imo i just click and shoot instead
i have pieces laying around but not about to learn a different playstyle as i am a one trick pony

[tired plover]

well dont go doubting the process bro 😂 sounds like u havent had the luxury of playing with people that literally have heal in their name

[gentle lichen]

there's someone called heal line in ps usually spectates and helps gankers but not too opposed when invited to a rogue team

healer is indeed a luxury though as of late i just solo/duo

[tired plover]

to be fair, psn players do things differently. when a lot of ps players came to xbox i heard them all kinda confused about why xbox players use seeker mine

they all caught on though 😂

[gentle lichen]

all i need to do is hit 2 shots if i dont i die

i like this way to do pvp

[tired plover]

especially with core strength. gotta takem out quick before their stinger hive gets to work 💤

[gentle lichen]

now the new tech with pistol core strength is just adding mortar
the stagger alone secures the 2 shot and gives insane cc

[tired plover]

skill builds 🤢 it didn't have to be like this 💔

only time i've ever used skills is to intentionally be a weirdo/troll for reactions. not my playstyle at all

[gentle lichen]

not mine too but it's too good of a thing to have in your repertoire honestly

[tired plover]

meh ill just stick to spotter, regulus 2b4r unbreak or sniping

not gonna even entertain core strength that shit is for the rpers

[gentle lichen]

still have an umbra with 3 skill tiers to counter skill builds
usually use it in a team though

[tired plover]

core strength tier 6 jammer kinda nice though

shut all that bs down and still beam with the dps of all red

[gentle lichen]

pretty much but it still has less dps than umbra so in a 1v1 burst i think umbra wins

[tired plover]

oh yeah ofc

thats why i dont use it, but the problem is dealing with stinger hives really

[gentle lichen]

4 jammer emp sticky stack

[tired plover]

booster is good but then u get jammed. thats the only issue i've found with playing against core strength, it's all good til you catch bleed then you gotta deal with that

[gentle lichen]

forces you into trading cause running while bled might as well be a sitting duck

[tired plover]

facts regardless of getting a kill, you gotta beat 2m armor, t6 bleed, and all that dps from capacitor 😂

[gentle lichen]

maybe quickstep makes it more bearable but i use regulus 💔

[tired plover]

yeah regulus is goated for checking core strength

[gentle lichen]

maybe acosta's kneepads would be the clutch exotic......

[tired plover]

that could be worth mentioning due to how op bleed currently is

[gentle lichen]

meta pistol you only lose 8% dtoc

[tired plover]

yep

[gusty tapir]

Man almost good

[next dawn]

not the ninja bike

[gusty tapir]

Oh I am on my blue striker that why there a ninja bike. Im trying to roll that mask to replace my coyote on my pestilence red striker build

And probably build around it with other set-up

Ill take that I guess

[alpine wigeon]

Which backpack do you think is best in following build, Douglas & Harding w/Vigilance, The Gift, or Memento:
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwBgtMbgjGDMVHmU1yBcKtp9jwAmMWSWBaEPXNdaBSGaqvdUCRWZppdOATnaMuwqLQDsJMASKQCkAGwBWJuMnT2csEpUUZEIimjqjCFiEzcMI5EA

[gentle lichen]

D&H for max pistol damage
Gift for a bit more consistent vigi uptime but less reg damage
Memento for comfort and a tanky bulwark shield but inital stacking will be annoying

[languid zenith]

Would the best build for the strega still be striker? Ive been trying other builds, negotiators dialemma has been fun

I just really dont want to be running a striker build like most people so trying to find an alternative

[next dawn]

For pure dps wise yes but I find negotiator dilemma more fun

[languid zenith]

What would the ideal striker build look like if I theoretically wanted to have the Lexington and then the sherrif or strega as my secondary

Mainly wanting to use strega and sherrif just trying to find builds that make them usable in escalation for example

[inland hound]

I absolutely love strega, but I never touch it in escalation. Only Lexington/Ravenous combo

Lexington for mobbing, Ravenous for chungas

[lone wadi]

i would use lexington if it didnt take 10 mags to killl a purple

[next dawn]

The most ideal build would be a 4 piece strike, equalizer, and overdogs

[inland hound]

It doesn't what the 👀

[lone wadi]

this is t10

and when they have damage reduction its a huge pain

[inland hound]

I just solo t10

[lone wadi]

props to you

[inland hound]

4manning it is a headache

[lone wadi]

idk bout xbox lfg but i had pretty good experience with pc lfg for t10

[inland hound]

Ahhh PC demons

[next dawn]

Lol

[lone wadi]

how's your solo clear times?

[inland hound]

I'm a console pleb having to carry the 20k Shd chads

16-20 mins viewpoint

[lone wadi]

oh thats pretty nice

[inland hound]

Run n gunning with banshee pulses on cool down and hot swapping BTSU for some pulls

[languid zenith]

Dude imma need to see that build, sounds godly

[queen mauve]

Hey im wondering if the ravenous is worth farming for

Can it out dps a striker build with breaking point or whatever the rifle set is

Or negotiators

[onyx sage]

it has its uses, damage is not one of them, more like it buffs your other weapons

[queen mauve]

Dang

[onyx sage]

you should still farm for it, have one on hand

[queen mauve]

I just wanna run a endgame viable dps build that doesnt use an automatic weapon

Or require headshot kills

[onyx sage]

your only option then is shotgun-based builds and even then it's quite limiting

if you limit yourself to heroic and below then any build works

[queen mauve]

Id be down with that if ive seen ANY shotgun builds that fit that criteria

[onyx sage]

hunter's fury crit builds

[languid zenith]

Striker build with sherrif actually kinda works

[willow tartan]

With frenzy I have a 168 round mk46 will those 8 rounds count towards frenzy at all or it has to get to 170?

[queen mauve]

It's every 10

[lone violet]

I wish I could use the sheriff in higher play like legendary

[queen mauve]

Yea this is what im looking for

I found a shotgun build that works in legend so mayhaps I am good

[grand girder]

depends on skill level tbh, I use perfect glass and overdogs but equalizer is a decent switch to make for survivability

sorry for late reply had a long sleep

[sterile chasm]

why can't I recal my gloves? I pulled better stats off but I can't slot them

[misty walrus]

U cant recal exotics. U can only reconfigure them in crafting station with all stats randomly

[sterile chasm]

oh like it's possible to lose my crit dmg?\

[misty walrus]

All stats will be random

[sterile chasm]

ouch that stinks

[lone wadi]

stat roll values will be random but the stats themselves will remain the same (for most exotics)

[sterile chasm]

oh, so i'll keep my CHC and CHD but the stats could go up?

[lone wadi]

yes, or down

if you have enough components i woudl probably reroll that one since it doesnt look like you have enough materials to optimize

[sterile chasm]

oh okay, not as big as a gamble as I thought but a gamble all the way

[lone wadi]

its worse for something like the investor mask or weapons since those have stats that can change, unlike overdogs, for example

[sterile chasm]

right, cause my headshot damage can roll into damage to out of cover people right?

[lone wadi]

yea for weapons yea

[sterile chasm]

I see and when exactly should I optimize? when the green bars would be full

[mild flame]

when you have enough comps to optimize

[lone wadi]

not only that but when you get high enough rolls

[sterile chasm]

what does it do exactly compared to rerolling?

[lone wadi]

increments stats until its maxed

reroll rerolls the entire thing, optimize increases one value (but you can optimize all 3)

[sterile chasm]

oh so like buying stats vs gambling stats

[lone wadi]

yea ig you can look at it that way

optimization is pretty expensive tho

[sterile chasm]

I should wait then until i'm a bit closer to 6%/12% i'd think then

[lone wadi]

yup

[sterile chasm]

awesome, that systems makes a lot more sense now ty ty

[surreal elk]

do still healers use lefty even if the damage buff is only for them?

[lone wadi]

the description is wrong, sledge is for everyone. so yes, run lefty

[surreal elk]

oh damn, thats confusing

[lone wadi]

yea theres quite a few like that they didnt fix

[subtle bluff]

Even tho there's VERY VERY detailed tickets for it. Maybe we should report on the new site thingy.

[silent storm]

So what are we doing with Global mods this season? Currently I am using this to quick refresh my Reviver Hive when I go down or to get a bump in an overdriven skill for a few seconds. But what else is there that is interesting?

[lone glacier]

135% Headshot Damage, 10% Armor and 20% Skill Damage for DPS

[smoky latch]

Alternating between HSD and mag size

[silent storm]

I was thinking Mag Size for Striker as that would be nice

[woeful cloak]

or 129hs dmg and 21.5 armor

[silent storm]

I picked this up from some missions and Paradox seems to be ok on it and Strained seems to be doing work but I wish it was Killer

Mag size on it I think I am going to do

[smoky latch]

It's better than Killer for Escalations

[silent storm]

Strained?

[smoky latch]

You have no conditional kills required to get a good CHD boost

[lone glacier]

What modifiers would that be?

[silent storm]

Yeah true

ANd the 50% is nice on Striker

[smoky latch]

Ye works

[silent storm]

Went full bore on it and it's putting the work

What is the point of extra armor though?

[woeful cloak]

better then skill dmg

[silent storm]

I do have a Skill DMG build that I use outside Escalation and like I said, being able to refresh Reviver Hive in higher tiers is golden

[lone glacier]

Damn. Dont have the Firmware for Cascade yet, rip

[lone glacier]

Nearly got all..

[thorn glade]

Is Armor Regen build only made by red core good or not?

[timid oyster]

Welp im still getting my shit kickednin on challenging

[tired plover]

@subtle bluff your striker 2 yellow 1 shot build is insane man. ty for putting me on

hitting 213m on wright w 2 yellows should be illegal

[subtle bluff]

we've dubbed it... Skill Horn

[tired plover]

Skill Horn 🤝

[subtle bluff]

I've used it to one shot leggo dua boss but ammo belts needs to broken first.

Either or belt or BP

[clever merlin]

I use the 20 sec blackout CD since I'm using a SMG/shotty weapon swap build

[tired plover]

the certified wright carry

loving it

[subtle bluff]

I've also used in DH 2nd bosses in LFG take shot before OC and after OC.

[tired plover]

ive yet to find a dh group that ocs in 2nd room... i need to expand my search lol

[timid oyster]

Is their amother dps build that is not striker. That anit helping me on challenging

[subtle bluff]

Proto gear for DUA boss I just thought about it gonna be easier to do now.

[tired plover]

wym challenging what

[subtle bluff]

Pretty anything is viable on Challenging.

LoS/Tall Cover is your friend

[timid oyster]

Huh

Los/tail cover?

[tired plover]

he said line of sight/tall cover. you can block enemy line of sight by utilizing tall cover, yet still shoot them

[ivory abyss]

Are you saying you need another DPS build because strikers isnt cutting it in challenging mode?

[lone glacier]

line of sight and the big cover where you're not crouching behind it.

[timid oyster]

Yeah i get flanked hard if i am in big cover then get downed whem im trying to relocate

[flint arch]

periodically check your radar when shooting

[lone glacier]

use the radar, it shows the relative location of enemies

[flint arch]

you can change the position of the radar on your screen to make it easier to see

[paper dagger]

You could check out Hunter Fury with a SMG or Heartbreaker they both dont deal the same dmg as striker but more surviveability 😄

[timid oyster]

Yeah

[tired plover]

hmm

[timid oyster]

Im too focused trying to aim to notice that

[ivory abyss]

Strikers is the best of the best for most things it should carry in challenging with ease

[subtle bluff]

Like Difficulty Challenging or what?

[timid oyster]

Not for me apperntly

[paper dagger]

Hunter Fury or Heartbreaker are good sets for you then

[tired plover]

do u have a screenshot of your build? u should be cooking things faster than they can react

especially on challenging

[paper dagger]

Which weapon u using on ur striker build?

[subtle bluff]

Anything is viable on challenging it's gameplay most of the time..

[tired plover]

yeah fair

[timid oyster]

I dont

[paper dagger]

On Challenging red enemys take like 4 bullets from my st elmo xD

[timid oyster]

Famas

[subtle bluff]

Just watch the clip above that should give you some ideas how to play. it.

[timid oyster]

Uhh i dont have that purpgear or that pistol or weapon. Also you have a shhhhit ton more health than me. Im obly 212

[tired plover]

post a picture of your build

[paper dagger]

What i did in the expertise event was getting a core strenght build (full red cores CHC/CHD) + ninja backbag and 2 yellow pieces fitting to the weapon i wanted to level.

That is around 2mil armor + 400k+ dmg per shot

[timid oyster]

Let me get beck in game i turned it off cause i kept dying lol

[tired plover]

lol

[timid oyster]

Ok what what ejat and what

And why the lol

[paper dagger]

let me open up the game and send u some screenshots of tankier builds 😄

[timid oyster]

I dont think o can hit 2m armour with 214 shd level

[paper dagger]

easily with core strenght build 😄

iam also only lv 1012 shd ^^

[subtle bluff]

UH? I don't have anything in the Watch for bonuses HP doesn't matter that much.

use your phone and take a pic of your build.

[timid oyster]

Stats

[paper dagger]

thats 3 builds that are pretty tanky while still beeing able to dish out decent dmg

[subtle bluff]

Can you show the build

[paper dagger]

first picture u can add any weapon u want and just change the 2 yellow pieces to w/e u need like ceska for chc or assault rifle dmg or or or ^^

[subtle bluff]

Ya it's just gameplay. Your build is fine. Foxes isn't the best but it'll work.

Another UA or a Ceska would be good.

[timid oyster]

Why wont it work?

[subtle bluff]

Foxes isn't amazing or anything unless you don't have DTTooC on your weapon

other pieces will more.

[timid oyster]

I junk almost 95% of my loot cause i it wont let me donate all junk in the expertice screen

I dont but its a max health damage roll

[subtle bluff]

that's fine. I'd just say keep very high CHC/CHD rolls stuff

DTTooC is all I mentioned

[paper dagger]

Thats the striker build i see the most

[timid oyster]

Damage to target outta cover?

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[paper dagger]

yes

[subtle bluff]

If it's not on your weapon then use foxes it's not the optimal set up, but it works better than without it.

[timid oyster]

Yeah my crit rate was 59% but idk how it dropled own again

But yeah idk how my play style is a factor i use cover

[paper dagger]

I mean u explained it to yourself already with "i dont look at the radar cause i focus on aiming"
A general tip that i used at the start was - get out of cover kill 1-2 targets go back reload and look at minimap for a short moment to see if something is at my sides

And by now i mostly dont even use cover anymore and just use LoS 😄

[timid oyster]

If i look at my radar i will get clapped hard if im aiming or id miss a explosive and what not(it has happend before)

[paper dagger]

You should look at ur radar when u are not aiming

and not stare at it just for a split second to see if there are targets at ur side 😄

[lone wadi]

also you can move the radar so that its right under your healthbar

[paper dagger]

fr? xD

[timid oyster]

You can move it sence when

[subtle bluff]

Here's a guide from someone else explaining gameplay in a section.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tCcHSui_wM6di2uJMPoJJB6Wx9K-pqbeuWyHAQcJ9AI/edit?usp=sharing

[lone wadi]

yea look at chow's video above

see where his radar is? makes it easier to glance at compared to the corner

[paper dagger]

ye just found the setting xD

[subtle bluff]

It's only a PC thing iirc. This took me a while to get use to. I was default for the longest of times.

[lone wadi]

oh is it? didnt know that

i just never bothered too much with messing around with ui since i got used to looking at minimap in corners from other games

[paper dagger]

same here ^^

[subtle bluff]

Same with the showing dmg numbers in chat.

[timid oyster]

Can you do that on a ps5

[subtle bluff]

oh?

Which one the UI or the dmg numbers?

[timid oyster]

The ui

I have the damage numbers where the scroll

[subtle bluff]

Oh cool! Ya I didn't really know the UI one.

Talking about where the dmg shows in the chat box.

[timid oyster]

That idk

But i did tey looking at the radar thought it was safe got wrecked again

[subtle bluff]

You have to be mouse over to the chat box I think is the issue.

[timid oyster]

Guess i should play on normal and wont evee get to do end game content

[subtle bluff]

Are you running into them all then taking cover?

I mean don't do what I'm doing because I am being mostly reckless in my clips

[timid oyster]

No away from them

[paper dagger]

Was it you who posted the Headshot DMG Modifier? ^^

[subtle bluff]

no.

I don't know much about the modifiers at all.

nor actually use them correctly.. 😐

[paper dagger]

Same here i use 45% weapon Handling for weapons like ravenous to make them more stable but with st elmo i think 123% headshot dmg seems good

[timid oyster]

Is their a tanky build so i can live longer lol

[paper dagger]

i posted 3 xD

first one u can exchange the chatterbox with any smg i just love the chatterbox

[hazy steeple]

What the heck is that?

[solar sable]

I will always say that a player that needs survivability to do any kind of content, is a player that needs to understand the game better and get better.

[paper dagger]

second one u can change to weapons which u like but then u have to change the yellow parts for things that suit the weapons better

Third build u need to be technician for the attachment

[paper dagger]

wdym?

[smoky latch]

You can either do damage and kill the NPCs before they damage you or you accept the victim role and run a blue build, dealing close to zero damage. Your choice

[hybrid leaf]

Anyone have exotic weapon recommendations other than Chameleon?

[smoky latch]

Striker's all red with Memento; maybe another one to max. two blue cores

[paper dagger]

St Elmo - Eagle Bearer as ARs if you want an LMG maybe Bullet King or Blue Screen? Never played striker with LMGs ^^

[smoky latch]

Exotics aren't best in slot nor are they "needed" for any build. You are better off with your Lexington; use an SMG as secondary

[timid oyster]

So your saying tanks are useless then?

[solar sable]

24/7

[paper dagger]

pretty much yes

[hybrid leaf]

Which talent u reckon on Lex? Running Killed atm

[smoky latch]

They are as redundant as snow in the Sahara in this game

[paper dagger]

Best suviveability in this game is dmg

[smoky latch]

Correct

[smoky latch]

Killer solo/Measured in group

[subtle bluff]

My clip before again is close to yours but on heroic

[lone wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLopWe9NfF0&t=27s start learning how to peek and use cover to your advantage

[subtle bluff]

Exotics/Named Weapons/Gear aren't always the best nor is needed for every build.

[silent storm]

Big Al is really good

[subtle bluff]

The Tactial "PIE"

[smoky latch]

I want pie 😐

[silent storm]

Agitator seems to be good on a Striker build as well if you play it right

[hybrid leaf]

OK might try Measured for a while

[lone wadi]

its aight

[smoky latch]

Good secondary, not main weapon

[silent storm]

Yeah the -50% threat is nice

[smoky latch]

Doesn't matter in solo, it's about the DMG buffs

[subtle bluff]

I feel like I repeat ths with Rowdy too much.

Keep it simple when new players are still learning.

[silent storm]

But also when you switch to it in the right situation it does great DMG

[smoky latch]

Hence secondary

Same as an AR with Back and Forth. Also, good secondary, not primary

[silent storm]

Well can only equip one exotic so if you use it it's the only one

[hazy steeple]

My old standard for WF back in the day holds as true for Div2 now:
"the best CC is a dead enemy".

[subtle bluff]

it's more DPS since

[smoky latch]

Bruh that is not even the topic here rn 😄

[silent storm]

since when?

[subtle bluff]

He's gone back into the phase of just wanting to says stuff to say something.

[paper dagger]

Just wanted to ask what u guys thinking about the agitator? Iam playing it with the "Trader" rifle and that rifle is crazy xD

[smoky latch]

We already told bro above that an exo isn't required in any build, and he said he's running Lex as main then

[silent storm]

He asked what exotics are good. Big Al is good Agitator is fun

[smoky latch]

I give up, no time for that rn lol

[timid oyster]

Cant do damage if your dead

[silent storm]

Although I will say that Big Al is better on TS than it is on Striker

Bighorn is always good as well

[timid oyster]

The heck is lex

[silent storm]

Lexington

[hazy steeple]

The better question: what does Bighorn have to do with Striker?

It's like saying "i love lullaby, I use it on striker". Just two totally different sentences.

[timid oyster]

Doubt i will ever see tjag lll

[silent storm]

You don't go BH Striker?

[timid oyster]

But yeah its gonna be near imbossible to play slow and tatical. Im more of a bash you in the face kinda person

[subtle bluff]

You're not helping here for someone is low SHD..

[subtle bluff]

Don't mind rowdy he'll say a lot of stuff without good context nor follow context of what he's replying to...

is the primary stats already farmed up in your library? @timid oyster

[silent storm]

Dude asked for good exotics I gave some

[subtle bluff]

wrong guy...
HENCE what I said. You do not follow context well nor care about it.

[smoky latch]

Headhunter's Fury

[smoky latch]

No

[subtle bluff]

I like intimated more with AD. Rush for newer players

[silent storm]

Lots of Blue Core and 2 SMGs is bad

[subtle bluff]

OH blue..

also Firewall vs Gunner

[paper dagger]

2nd weapon is just place holder 😄 but it was my go to farm build on challenging while beeing brain dead

[silent storm]

Chatterbox is nice on that but Red Core though

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NNLiB-SZH-LChI9gE18q-PdYGqHac4Gep9UQVUtg0as/edit?usp=drivesdk

Second image. If you wanna focus on shotguns use a Badger Tuff backpack

[silent storm]

You get the GS and the Chatter going and you slay for 5 seconds

[smoky latch]

For SMGs use Sokolov maybe

[timid oyster]

Hub

[silent storm]

I run that build with Hunter-Killer

[timid oyster]

Crap i hate being on my phone lol

Also idk if i can consistenly hit headshots

[timid oyster]

For most items yeah

[silent storm]

This is my version of it. Fun build

[paper dagger]

yeah more endgame focused then mine ^^ but since he asked for a tankier build for challenging i changed my cores to blue + equalizer to make it up a bit in terms of dmg

[silent storm]

Don't mind the Deflector Shield I was just leveling it up, normally use Crusader

[paper dagger]

its just a braindead run in build with blue cores especially on challenging difficulty 😄

[silent storm]

Blue Cores on Challenging?

[paper dagger]

He is struggling on that difficulty so yeah thats my idea for him 😄 or HB

[timid oyster]

Whats that star on gear mean

[silent storm]

Proficient

[versed summit]

Generally my advice for challenging is taking more damage and learning positioning, and enemy behavior.

If you're taking blues on challenging you're not gonna make it to heroic

[silent storm]

Try a status build then with Trauma and Creeping Death

[paper dagger]

Guys iam playing t7+ its not me who is struggling 😅

[versed summit]

I'm just responding to you because you're the one giving that advice and I'm too late to tell the other guy

[silent storm]

All Red Core with Trauma and Creeping Death and a Foam launcher he'll be breazing through Challenging

[versed summit]

I dunno about that either lol

TBH once you have a competent build, I wouldn't waste time in challenging

[timid oyster]

Im sure there is someome out there that is useimg blues on heroic

[paper dagger]

But every persons learns different. Also had a friend who was struggling a long time on challenging then he tried blue cores got better and went back to reds 😄

Also wasnt really an advice since Chow and my advice was exactly that ^^ He asked for a tankier build so i responded

[versed summit]

Beat your head against the wall in heroic and eventually it'll be so easy you'll forget you struggled with it.

[silent storm]

Too many people do it

[timid oyster]

And dome cant keep what they learned to memory. Or devolpe muscle memory+

[versed summit]

For solo heroic it's fine, but you're detrimental to your team if you run content in a group. It's also just less efficient for doing heroic anyways.

[paper dagger]

In the end its a game and u need to have fun if you are having fun solo with a blue build heck go for it. But dont be mad at other players in Incursion/Retals/Raids if they leave cause u are running it 😄

[timid oyster]

I got kicked for running reds before so im used to it

What about skills

[subtle bluff]

LOL what? Sorry that's a new one.

[paper dagger]

Skill builds are also fun and good but again its not the same DPS as a Red Core build

[silent storm]

The Division is a different game with a controller as well. Sometimes I will play on Xbox and I am not as good there as I am on PC even though I have played Xbox since it came out. It definitely doesn't have the Rainbow Six controls

[grand girder]

what was the shd level? I've seen this trend before

[timid oyster]

200

[grand girder]

yeah it would've been braindead host or group

[silent storm]

Kicking Red Core?

[grand girder]

surprisingly there are people who think just because your watch isn't maxed it means you're completely useless, regardless of build

[timid oyster]

So i havent ran any group content sence that kick a few days ago

[grand girder]

was it countdown or some other content?

[versed summit]

Just lead your own groups tbh

[paper dagger]

Many people are like that xD First Incursion i ever did some1 flamed me for not having equalizer as chest and only a normal UA x.x

[silent storm]

Screw those guys, I MM 99% of content I want to do with a group and it's fine

[timid oyster]

Also had people leave cause of my shd level

Even people lower than mine leave

[paper dagger]

That happend to me aswell so often ... i reached 1000 some days ago but from like 1-500 people were not the nicest

[silent storm]

I don't even talk in groups, just type with text to type so that when they text back I don't have to read it

[timid oyster]

I never figured out hownto do that on controller

[grand girder]

it's also really ironic that they base it off the number and not the actual gameplay, they could legit be a level 200 but at 1k with a 5x event

[timid oyster]

Huh

[grand girder]

That isn't aimed at you dave its the people who kick low shd levels

[timid oyster]

But yeah i will tey to work on what yall said. I dont have high hopes that i will retain and go back to my aggressive af ways

[versed summit]

SHD level has always been an awful indicator of actual level of play.

[silent storm]

Hell, if I see someone below 1000 SHD in my group if I get an exotic drop I ask if they need it

[paper dagger]

If you go back to that try out Hunters Fury or Heartbreaker Set 😄

[timid oyster]

Id need to run countdown for that set

Bakets dozen still used at all

[paper dagger]

Just go for it or look around the map if its dropping somewhere 😄

[timid oyster]

Cause i keep getting that named gun

[subtle bluff]

Question for you. Do you feel like your TTK is the issue or just missing things?

[silent storm]

Here's the issue, those that kick you because you are low SHD, are weak players and feel you are a burden because their build can't carry

[timid oyster]

Missimg thingd maybe yeller bars take like 2-3 clips to kill

Reds and purps die quick

[grand girder]

2-3 clips on heroic?

[subtle bluff]

Challenging

Yea that's an issue.

[silent storm]

Low rolled Challenging gear

[subtle bluff]

It's not super low but

[silent storm]

Probably bad stats as well due to it and no watch to give a little boost

Easily rectified

[timid oyster]

Bad stats?

[subtle bluff]

Again you don't know the full context plz stop unless you scrolled and looked at his gear..

[timid oyster]

I did post my stats way up there

[subtle bluff]

It's one of those... take his responses at a half cup full deal.

[timid oyster]

Ah. Also if i dont respond i passed tf out

[grand girder]

#td2-build-advice message

[paper dagger]

Cherry blossom event starts tommorow no? If so get Gear Caches and try to get a St Elmo/Lexington/Eagle Bearer(if the boxes even drop it)

[subtle bluff]

@timid oyster follow this for your CHC/CHD

[timid oyster]

How do you get cashes

[silent storm]

I did see it and with 3 max stats what are they?

[timid oyster]

Crit chance

[paper dagger]

Dont know yet i guess either lvl up or special missions/hunters to kill for it but dont take my word for 100% here

[silent storm]

Good start

[timid oyster]

And 1 was weapon damage

[subtle bluff]

Just make one of those CHD into CHC and that should show a nice improvment on DPS

With Killer if you can target a red or 2 first to proc killer