td2-build-advice

[woeful forge]

this weapon should work with a heartbreaker build no? and is dtooc or crit dmg better here (i alr have around 55% crit)

[soft crane]

DTOOC is BiS

[ivory abyss]

it will except you have to hit headshots, linked laser pointer dont work on famas

[woeful forge]

headshots shouldn't be an issue for me, but in case is there any other weapon with perfect flatline other than dare lmg?

[mild dawn]

perfect talents arent bis if theyre on dogwater gun/gear base

[ivory abyss]

kingbreaker, but also some enemies you cant pulse with a headshot so youll be screwed

[woeful forge]

banshee also pulses aside from disorient right? and as an emergency i am running a max blackout pulse

[ivory abyss]

those pulses dont count for flatline do they?

[strong cave]

They do. I used to main EB on heartbreaker chainkilling headshots with Memento. Problem is LLP is finicky, doesn't work on famas as it's not a long under barrel rail slot, and God forbid your skills are disrupted and you're not using LLP/Scanner Pulse/Banshee pulse

Heartbreaker is essentially striker with extra steps. Slapping a few blues on striker will take you further than Heartbreaker ever could (at max 2 blues, unless maybe running the chest)

[lament reef]

is this anything besides dogs and mini tanks

[strong cave]

Enemy skills/gadgets

[lone violet]

you want DTTOC for pestil?

[strong cave]

It always drops with it. You want crit chance as 3rd attribute

[mild dawn]

thats default on lmg, crit chance usually for them

[ivory abyss]

yup plus gadgets and stuff

[woeful forge]

what's a good ar replica to run it with while i dont have a kingbreaker then? i've unlocked almost all replica assault rifles atp aside from the seasonal reward ones

[strong cave]

Police M4, Carbine 7

[woeful chasm]

498

[strong cave]

Lexington as well if you have that

[lone violet]

i got 2 but like one of them got fire rate or HSD

[lament reef]

try reconfiguring

[strong cave]

Keep the rate of fire one, reconfigure the other for crit chance

[woeful forge]

neat, i'll spam craft then, i dont have the lexington as i wasn't playing when it was obtainable, afaik i cant get it yet for now

[strong cave]

Correct. Lexington is just 4 or 5% better than the police M4. 4 ish expertise levels will match Lexington damage

[flint arch]

3.8% akshually

[lament reef]

🤓

[strong cave]

No more bonus armor for you

[flint arch]

[lone violet]

Aghhh

[strong cave]

I'd keep it

[loud sleet]

Very nice

[loud sleet]

The weapon I would love to have but I came back to this game too late

[mild dawn]

for all the pc gamers out there: windows key + shift + s lets you snap a region to ctrl + v into chat

[lone violet]

im also gonna re roll my capacitor cause wtf is swap speed

[flint arch]

At this point I'm used to t5 enemies ripping my armor to shreds with a single bullet

[strong cave]

Yeah that I won't be able to help out with. That's a stretch goals thing

[lone violet]

Aight bro

[strong cave]

I haven't even had time to really play all that. I'm still playing between t1 - t3 since I just can't be assed to run missions that reward me next to nothing

[loud sleet]

Yeah but well it is good but I can lie without it atleast

[loud sleet]

I think you are alr at work aint ya just got home myself

[strong cave]

It'll be easily obtainable when stretch goals hit, almost everyone logs in for those. Keep your eyes peeled till the end of this season

[strong cave]

Not yet. I have roughly 45m before I punch in

[flint arch]

I've been doing t4-5 with INF and doomz, and I can count the number of proto drops on one hand

[loud sleet]

yup

[strong cave]

My girlfriend got 3 drops on tier 1. Kill me. Only 2 runs under her belt

[flint arch]

All of the drops were complete ass

[strong cave]

She got a good Urban DMR with rifleman and DTA on it

[flint arch]

[loud sleet]

can you even use the protos if you are not expertise 30

[strong cave]

Yes

[flint arch]

I swear to fu

[strong cave]

I said exactly that to her btw

[loud sleet]

gotta try escalation someday then

[flint arch]

God my expertise gain is slowing down so much

[lone glacier]

Hey corrupt I know how I can make you even more mad. full blue PVGC striker

[flint arch]

I've mostly exhausted the named gear by now

[flint arch]

Your █████ privileges have been revoked

[lone glacier]

damn. sad day

[lament reef]

bis for quickstep!

[flint arch]

honestly after some testing im going back to dttooc on my quickstep. couldn't notice the swap speed at all

[shy willow]

Not like you'll notice the dttooc either to be fair😭

[flint arch]

real

[shy willow]

Not opening that but imma go out on a limb and say self promo isn't allowed

[hazy steeple]

@supple ginkgo rule #4, no self promo allowed.

[dapper glacier]

are aegis builds good?

[loud sleet]

@hazy steeple

would you have an clue what could be a good bittersweet healer set?
just trying to get some ideas

[soft crane]

Dont think so. Never see anyone used it.

[uncut yarrow]

I know its YT but Rogue Gold posted one that im tryna build. Looked fun with max healing his teammate and himself every time he shot a teammate and like 3 mil headshots (which are "body shot" when you get the talent going). Thats the only one ive seen. I wanna mess around with it when I can get it put together, looks fun.

[loud sleet]

would it be åpossible that you sent the video link to me? I wanna check it out

[uncut yarrow]

Yea lemme find it rq

https://youtu.be/2DSLsTUaOls?si=-isFj0VjlUKzPYhC

[loud sleet]

tyyyy

[uncut yarrow]

Np np

I think he does say it isn't like a full blown healer build but basically any time you actually use the gun to heal, which feeds yourself too for damage, its a max heal anyways so skills are "less necessary". Something like that

[shy willow]

I severely doubt this build is as good as it's made out to be

[soft crane]

What?

[hazy steeple]

It's a ninjabag build from a youtuber known for.... I'm skirting Rule 12 here but I'll be nice.
Known for less than truthful statements.

[lone glacier]

Sometimes you have to skirt around the rules if its truly something.. terrible

[hazy steeple]

Wait a tic, is that fox's knees?

[uncut yarrow]

As I said, I have not used it so I do not know. It looks cool if it works

[mild dawn]

no way the group of people whose income is based on the quantity and length of videos would be putting out sub-par builds

[loud sleet]

just a question do you got an liittle bit better build idea just thinking what should I sart with

[hazy steeple]

The spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel has a bunch of meta heroic+ quality builds, at least enough to suit any situation.
and the best part: they don't depend on Seasonal Modifiers

You can do some wacky stuff with Seasonal Modifiers and builds, but as soon as the Season is over: they're generally pretty bad.

[trim abyss]

no its not, I made it myself the other day and its dookie compared to striker or TS

[shy willow]

It's probably also best to temper your expectations for bittersweet as well; it's nothing special really

[hazy steeple]

If you want a quick guide if a build is good or not, look at the backpack slot.
If it has the Ninjabag in there, there's a better than average (read: very high) chance that it's more than a little pants.

[shy willow]

Cool gimmick but yeah

[next dawn]

Slapping a Bittersweet on an IF build would do better than it

[trim abyss]

agreed, ninjabag is a dead giveaway that the build is cheeks

[hazy steeple]

And because we don't do things by halves here: the Ninjabag in the backback slot is an issue because, put simply: it's taking up a slot that some of our most powerful Talents use.
If you really want the 3 cores: Memento is fantastically strong and works on honestly, most builds.

[trim abyss]

I wish the other 99.9% of the player base understood this, theres far too many people that swear by ninjabag

[hazy steeple]

It has the Turmoil problem, where it seems incredibly strong at first glance, and as a result is great for video content.

[trim abyss]

There are numerous facebook groups where youre not allowed to drop facts about ninjabag lol

[next dawn]

same with the St elmos

[lament reef]

at least it has a big mag

[next dawn]

and high rof but thats about it

[shy willow]

Nah Elmo is unironically one of the best ARs we have

[trim abyss]

theres people in my own clan that swear by only 50 -55% crit chance to...

[shy willow]

It just also happens to be really beginner friendly because of it's mods

[hazy steeple]

St Elmo has some benefits actually.
big mag, great mods, solid talent for CC, has a slightly funny name if you don't know about the weather thing.

[shy willow]

Na na na na na

[grim bluff]

People coming from Diablo 3 where Ring of Royal Grandeur was the best thing ever for a long while

"Whoa I can finish sets with 1 less piece that must be good"

[hazy steeple]

The sheer temptation to post clips from that movie right now is strong, but I'll be good.

[trim abyss]

I myself prefer st elmos if im running an AR though

[grim bluff]

And it just shoots exactly where you aim, it feels so easy

[sullen night]

Is there a definitive answer if Strained or Measured is better overall DPS on crit builds? Or does it depend on too many factors?

[hazy steeple]

Both are good, I like having an AR for each.

(Caretaker covers Killer)

[trim abyss]

ive been partial to my lady gaga rifle since it came out

[sullen night]

I do like the RoF gimmick quite a bit, so I can probably just use Measured then if I prefer it just for fun reasons

[lament reef]

ideally you roll a gun with dtooc naturally so you can swap the perk as you like

[hazy steeple]

I am 100% lost on what a "lady gaga rifle" would be.
.....Burnout?

[shy willow]

Measured is preferable

[trim abyss]

the alejandro

[shy willow]

Strained kinda fell off after the big buffs to measured and killer

[hazy steeple]

Isn't Big al an LMG?

[trim abyss]

yes it is

[grim bluff]

Light Machine Guhrifle

[trim abyss]

realized I shouldve said the correct weapon type lol

but the lady gaga referrence still stands lol

[hazy steeple]

In your defense, we have the Rifle, the Assault Rifle, and the Marksman Rifle.

oh, also the submachine GUN, lightmachine GUN, and don't forget the shotGUN

[trim abyss]

They shoudve paid to license that song so it plays when you fire it like the bellringer does lol

[hazy steeple]

Every time you get to 0 bullets, it lists the boxoffice for her performance in Joker 2.

[trim abyss]

ya lets just not act like that thing exists lol

[lament reef]

you gotta have some flops to make your successes better

[hazy steeple]

The album was solid, I'll give it that.
okay enough ragging on millionares with more money than ill ever see.

[flint arch]

murder your franchise before reanimating its mangled corpse

[trim abyss]

I just wish they would fix prototype gear, not even worth messing with it until they do

[shy willow]

Depends what you mean by fix😭

[flint arch]

since we've already screwed with the game, why not bring back 2 attribute recalibration like with classified sets

prototype gear is genuinely about as rare as getting classified sets without a GE ngl, but to get what you want is 50000 times worse

[trim abyss]

thats not even the biggest problem honsetly. When you finally do get some or make some, its bugged as all hell

[flint arch]

[shy willow]

Are you talking about the stat normalisation or smth else

[trim abyss]

the stats and the items disappearing

[flint arch]

either way I am not risking bricking my The Gift backpack

[shy willow]

Stuff disappearing just need space in inventory iirc

For raids and incursions or whatever yeah might be worth keeping whatever you have and farming a new set to prototype up

Seeing as it doesn't need to be optimised whatsoever

[trim abyss]

Nope, dont even bother until its completely fixed because whatever "fix" they put out next, may make it even worse

[flint arch]

on an unrelated note I've seen people say things along the lines of "dude prototyping guarantees your item is better it's not bricked you liar"

but considering the cost of getting to expertise 30, upgrading something to expertise 30, only to get ass prototype level rolls in the end that i can't recal or optimize, what am I supposed to call the DZ exclusive named backpack i spent 45 exos on then

[loud sleet]

hmm this one might be pretty good

as this works well against drones and such and it heals okayish so hmmzerz

[trim abyss]

exactly, and they had the nerve to ask players how they were liking it this morning, as if they are completely unaware of the issues lol

[flint arch]

final measure is a rather situational classified set-

sorry, wrong game

measured assembly is a very situational gear set

[shy willow]

I've already fully prototyped my striker and had 0 issues with it so ymmv😭

[loud sleet]

so for this set you would say that future initiative is better?

[next dawn]

I did a double take on that bittersweet damage thought it was a 14 digit damage number XD

[shy willow]

I mean prototypes are guaranteed to be better, to varying degrees depending on your rng but always better

[loud sleet]

xd yeah trying to just get a good bittersweet set

[flint arch]

FI is the go-to for healing, there are very few scenarios where MA would be a better option

[next dawn]

Doctor home with FI trust

[flint arch]

Go home

[next dawn]

😭

[shy willow]

You jest but it's viable😭

[flint arch]

Run Cooler with FI

[shy willow]

Funny blue FI build

[next dawn]

You didn't like my cooler refractor build 😭

[flint arch]

Refractor does not exist in the game

[loud sleet]

but whic one is better doctor home or bitter sweet'

for healing ofc

[next dawn]

Doctor home if you want to be lazy, bittersweet if you want to be active

[shy willow]

Unironically doc home imo, bittersweet is more micromanagement than an RTS

[next dawn]

Lol so true

You also loose the stack out of combat which sucks

[shy willow]

Then you have to stack another 8 headshots

[loud sleet]

well ill try both

[shy willow]

It's just really blegh to use

[loud sleet]

so doctor home with fi btsu glosves and what chest?

[next dawn]

But the bonus armor is good tho

[flint arch]

You could say it's more bitter than sweet

[next dawn]

Fi chest

[loud sleet]

whats the sixts piece then?

[next dawn]

Optimistic backpack forgot the brand

[loud sleet]

okay ill try things out

[flint arch]

doesn't opportunistic not work with rifles

[shy willow]

MMRs and shotguns

[loud sleet]

with damage cores to be sure yes

[next dawn]

Right uhhhh what a good replacement

[shy willow]

If you're not using oppo then the next best thing would be safeguard

[flint arch]

Alps BP

[next dawn]

Hmm safe guard

[lone violet]

im about to start bringing emp jammer for manning zoo cause man

[lone glacier]

"Fixing an issue that can unintentionally alter gear values and progression. We are prioritizing this fix to prevent wider impact and maintain fair play."

[hazy steeple]

That's just how MSV rolls.
They won't say the issue as it brings attention to it, but if you know, you already know.

[next dawn]

Lol valid

[misty marsh]

Quick question, is core strength even that good for escalations? And if not, what kind of loadouts should I be using besides Bluescreen+4pc heartbreaker+overdogs?

[lone glacier]

Well if you want DPS you could go Striker with Ceska Gloves and Hollow Man Mask

[smoky latch]

That's for the high tier Escalations

[smoky latch]

Don't believe what you see on YT

[uncut yarrow]

Idek what build i wanna do at this point. I have ones that work but are just glass cannons or are boring which I don't really care for

[misty marsh]

Dang I feel stupid rn 💀

[smoky latch]

No worries, many new players end up in that trap

[misty marsh]

Hollow Man Mask? An exotic?

[smoky latch]

Named Yaahl mask

[misty marsh]

Brother I am SHD 450+ wasting time grinding escalation, I failed 2 cuz 1 was a troll ahh run where someone enabled directives + running with lower levels at tier 5

Idk what the heck am I even doing 💀

[lone glacier]

I mean you could run that for T6+ already in honesty

[uncut yarrow]

I can feel the 200k crits from here

[misty marsh]

I like running my Bluescreen+HB+Overdogs loadout because that is sustainable both survivability and DPS

[misty marsh]

From the lower SHD levels? Yeah, I spectated them that dealt 120K-200K lmao. And my random teammate was playing a support with fast revives / constant healing

The other dude ran a full tech setup + capacitor

[soft crane]

lol

Clickbaits everywhere. I never bother with Div2 Youtubers who shares builds. The only guy I watched is NGN because of the lore dump he always make.

[soft crane]

You're not even supposed to grind escalation at this point. Go back to Countdown or Retaliation.

[uncut yarrow]

Bluescreen HB... do statuses count towards Heartbreaker stacks?

[grim bluff]

Division 2 youtubers 🤝 Warframe youtubers

The masters of clickbait garbage builds

[grim bluff]

It pulses targets to enable heartbreaker

[misty marsh]

If it works, it works bruh

[sullen night]

Honestly I've seen garbage clickbait builds on youtube for every game that has something akin to builds 😬

[uncut yarrow]

Oh thats actually wild what

[grim bluff]

Yeah make sure to read the description on Bluescreen

[uncut yarrow]

May or may not have to try this... I really like Bluescreen

[misty marsh]

Ye I just paired it with some random ahh prototype holster I got that gives +15% more LMG damage and I had that 0.5% status chance augment on it

[uncut yarrow]

I guess it does pulse. I'm used to games using terminology or having a similar word that you would think or hope has something to do with another mechanic or word, and it in fact does not

[misty marsh]

kekw

[soft crane]

Ah good for you.

[grim bluff]

Bluescreen is really versatile it's great fun

[uncut yarrow]

Oh there you go. I might just toss Salvo on and call it good. I'll mess around with it, thank you for the idea. I'll give it a try

[misty marsh]

You need overdogs as well

[uncut yarrow]

I really enjoy how it feels and my infinite reload speed and everything. And then all the weird status spreads it does and everything and how stable it is. Its dope

[uncut yarrow]

Yea i got it dw

[misty marsh]

But imo Bluescreen+HB+Overdogs+Salvo or any other kind of holster replacement good enough is a sustainable damage with survivalbility

[uncut yarrow]

We've HAD overdogs (2nd countdown run on gloves focus, first exotic drop)

[misty marsh]

you're basically rambo-ing the hallway and tanking shots, probably aggroing every other enemy too??

[uncut yarrow]

It sounds dope

Meesa dont get home till like 9pm today so probably no build testing for me

[misty marsh]

Ye just run it with cloud armor or blackout modifier, or if you want the overload modifier. I just pair with hive reviver and the burn sticky bomb

[uncut yarrow]

I am really bad with using different skills lol

[misty marsh]

I mean sticky bomb has been my favorite go-to since div 1 to apply statuses

reviver is in case if things go south

[grim bluff]

Really any skill you prefer works with it, most of the time you end up activating bluescreen stacks off kills anyway

[uncut yarrow]

What spec do you use if youre having bluescreen do it all? Still Tech for laser pointer on ACS or something?

[misty marsh]

Idk, but my rolls on my Bluescreen are maxed out DMG / DTOOC with goofy ahh crit hit damage

[uncut yarrow]

Banshee is nice just to spit in a dudes face when he throws it on me

? When he throws what on me? No when a dude pushes me or something lol

I shall mess with it

[silver peak]

i must know

is there a limit to accuracy
can i make the sherif a slug

[pallid siren]

how can i quickly farm the ninjabike bp?

[soft crane]

Oh shoot i dont have the list of exotic bps and which faction drops them.

[soft crane]

Try going against Hyena. You cant get duplicate blueprint and the chance of getting one is pretty high from a kill squad or from completing the retaliation.

[midnight grail]

Any eagle bearer enjoyers around?

[smoky latch]

Not anymore

[honest moss]

"Eagle bearer? I haven't heard that name in years" cut to where is my mind playing over that one eagle eating trash

[gentle lichen]

you know how they always show the side of the eagle
now you're seeing the front and it's horrendous

[vernal wing]

What are the important builds for tier 10. Tired of people crying because I don’t have XYZ

[silver peak]

i have reached peak bullshit

[urban latch]

Great example why you calc dps and not just good at what you crit for lol

[lost wren]

out of all the high end lmgs which are the best to consider

[urban latch]

MK46 with frenzy

[lost wren]

just mk46? damn
does it matter if its the replica or world dropped

[urban latch]

Doesn't matter

[lost wren]

oh i thought you'd run ceska over ovd

i've been running gr9 frenzy but the base gr9 is kind of shit so i want to see other lmgs

[urban latch]

Ceska is what Toastey has been recommending. GR9 just takes forever to unload, so the timing for frenzy isn't as smooth as it is for MK46. It technically has more dps when it's active though

[lost wren]

true ig

[urban latch]

I was dumb and made a proto Slepnir and GR9 before I realized MK46 was the way to go lol

[light jungle]

Is there a build that’s considered the best right now for solo play

[silver peak]

im using a rifle with tipping scales 💀

[urban latch]

Still not peak bullshit though

[vernal wing]

Sooo just be really lucky

[urban latch]

It's not luck, I just spent hundreds of exotic componts

It's a dog shit system and doing it that way is the only reasonable way to put together prototype gear

[vernal wing]

If you bet on everything in roulette, something will always win

[urban latch]

There was no betting? You upgrade gear to exp 30, make sure that gear is exactly what you want because you won't be able to recal it again, then upgrade it to proto. There's zero RNG.

[vernal wing]

Hours on Div 2?

[urban latch]

Many

[vernal wing]

lol

[urban latch]

7k shd kinda undersells it lol

[lament reef]

how early would you say non-strikers builds start falling off in escalation?

[vernal wing]

3 assuming non striker and non Proto

[urban latch]

Like... T1-2

[vernal wing]

One shot HH builds struggle to kill red bars

[solar bison]

Tipping scales works fine all the way through 10

[vernal wing]

What’s the rest of the build

[solar bison]

TS, Overdogs, Equalizer, Mk46 + Pesti is what I run

Very easy to use as well

[vernal wing]

I’ve seen a lot of Big Al/Bluescreen but idk why you would pick any of them over each other.

[solar bison]

I tried Big AJ and I didnt like it

[smoky latch]

Often depends on the use cae

[solar bison]

Pesti just provides 1m dmg ticks for basically the entire mission on bank

[grizzled garnet]

So for tinkerers TS Equilizer i wanna run mk46?

[solar bison]

And if you need insane burst dps just hold an MK46 with frenzy in your back pocket

[toxic frigate]

Usually if using MG with Frenzy what to use in mag slot

[solar bison]

Gunner mag for the extra 50 rounds

[smoky latch]

Depends on your build and the LMG

[toxic frigate]

Striker with Adbridged

[smoky latch]

And which LMG?

[toxic frigate]

Currently using GR9 + Mk46

[smoky latch]

With Frenzy it's important to sync your reload to Frenzy. If it's not in sync you won' have it up all the time

If you run out of ammo before Frenzy runs out, you won't have it active on reload

[toxic frigate]

Frenzy and Fast Hands

[bleak kernel]

What's your favourite sniper rifle?

[smoky latch]

Try it on the shooting range or anywhere in the open world. Ideally you want Frenzy on every reload

[solar bison]

I mean you can have builds where you just keep a gun on low ammo and only pop frenzy for spongey targets. I used a stoner with it and that shit hit 20m DPS with no proto gear lmfao

[vernal wing]

I think Shroud and Nemesis are the premiums. not sure why people like White Death and the high ends

[smoky latch]

Yeah that works up to heroic, above you want it in sync if you main it or best, in general

[solar bison]

Proto white death gets 209% hs dmg with determined

[bleak kernel]

Prolly, determined talent

[thick acorn]

Would the Refactor 4 piece set return to sender heal allies via detecter shield dmg?

[toxic frigate]

Im not quite sure what best combination on that

I tried Fast Handed + Steady Handed, Frenzy + Strained

[smoky latch]

Frenzy and Measured is pretty good for instance. If you wanna do a lot of sustained damage keep Frenzy and FH

[toxic frigate]

Streamlined looks cool tbh

But it would be ass when it was on CD

[toxic frigate]

I see

Also the striker chest piece is not that important compared to the backpack right

Planning to use something like equalizer or Palisade w/ Obli

[lament reef]

chest is overkill and not maintainable unless you are doing raids or escalations

[smoky latch]

You want the chest piece if the content you run allows for it. You will need either a lot of enemies or very tanky enemies, or both

Otherwise stick with a HE chest

[solar bison]

Equalizer is more consistent for 99% of content

[gentle lichen]

hollowman really that big?

i feel like it's most useful in missions where there is usually tanks/boss being tank

[smoky latch]

Yeah the DtH is really useful for Escalations

[urban latch]

It is when you prototype it

[gentle lichen]

how much is it

[urban latch]

You'll always get the dth boost, I think it's what, 21%? Going from memory

Chungas are a real problem, and that dth is huge for them

[toxic frigate]

Speaking of

I don't think I have Hollow Man yet

[smoky latch]

21% yeah

[gentle lichen]

quite true i've run washington and calling the boss a sponge is an understatement

[urban latch]

Same with hitting weak points, destroying a weak point is one of the best ways to quickly take out certain enemies or CC the area. And with how tanky things are that dth helps

[gentle lichen]

also that goddamn scaling door 😭

[urban latch]

That door is so dumb lol

[gentle lichen]

dth increases weakpoint damage? the more you know i guess

[supple ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/live/MVXZh8FAsnE?si=a4RB3Ao3K_blX5hO

[smoky latch]

No self promotion allowed here

[toxic frigate]

i think it also increase damage to helmet too(?)

[smoky latch]

Anything armor plate related

[copper holly]

Whats everyones dps escalation builds send them in

[pulsar burrow]

Is it worth running an Acog Scope on a Black Market SASG-12 for the 50% optimal range boost?

[barren tartan]

Which exotics are The best for Striker build rn

[smoky latch]

Exotics aren't needed for a build to be good but if you want one, use Overdogs for general content

[barren tartan]

And overdogs is?

[grim bluff]

Gloves, they boost damage to the lowest enemy tier in combat currently

[smoky latch]

Gloves

[grim bluff]

So you have to work your way up eliminating the weaker guys first

Amplifies Weapon Damage by 30% to the lowest ranking enemies within the Tier hierarchy
Tier 1: Hunter, Rogue, Leader, Tank, Shield, Heavy Weapons, RPG, Medic, Controller, Warhound, Marauder.
Tier 2: Support, Engineer, Bodyguard, Immobilizer, Bomber, Mini Tank, Drone Operator.
Tier 3: Any other enemy or skill proxy.

[barren tartan]

Meh

[smoky latch]

You don't have to stick to its talent. Just mow down stuff and get an occasional damage boost

[grim bluff]

It's amplify damage, so it's a big multiplier on top of all other damage

[smoky latch]

In legendary and Escalations for instance it is not recommended

Or certain other specific content where you need to prioritise enemies

[barren tartan]

Rn i'm doing 4 Striker, mechanizef infanty vest, elmo's engine and some sniper rifle

[smoky latch]

Is that a Ceska chest?

[barren tartan]

Yes

[smoky latch]

Yeah better go by brand name instead of item name for those

What's your 6th gear piece?

[true oak]

has anyone played around with the new core strength gear set?

[barren tartan]

Coyote's mask

[smoky latch]

#td2-general-chat message

[true oak]

its in regards to builds tho?

[smoky latch]

Is alright. Make sure you have around 51% CHC, I have a feeling you might be over that

[barren tartan]

How do i check that

[lament reef]

inventory > stats

[smoky latch]

I linked you to another convo where it was part of earlier

[barren tartan]

Chc is only 18 for me

[smoky latch]

Wat?

[true oak]

ah yes i see my b

[barren tartan]

Critical hit chance?

[smoky latch]

Take a screenshot of your build pls and post here

[barren tartan]

I was equiped with other exotic

Now its 42%

[true oak]

i cant decide a proper build. Ive been running refractors/capacitator and strikers/iron lung, but i cant seem to find the sweet spot for end game/legendary content ready builds

[smoky latch]

Striker's is perfect for endgame

Here is a neat guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

[barren tartan]

I want to change my Striker by a little bit to make it still good

[toxic frigate]

is there easy way to get Hollow man mask

or just keep spamming named item box?

[barren tartan]

But something a little bit more different

[smoky latch]

DZ, named item caches, Houndsman bounty

[toxic frigate]

ah i dont have houndsman anymore

[smoky latch]

Farm Retaliations until you eventually get its crafting blueprint

[toxic frigate]

oh that works too

[smoky latch]

Find someone with a Houndsman bounty they can share with you. Ask here in your platform's LFG channel, join the GCROCK discord or the Division 2 Community discord to LFG there.

[junior lagoon]

Toasty made Hallowman famous in one day i guess

[smoky latch]

It already used to be go-to for a Pestilence build back then

[junior lagoon]

new overdogs

[toxic frigate]

think i have one but it was on a Hazpro roll

[versed glacier]

Do I have the feeling, that prototype is weird in stats?
Like this feels like too out of line:

[lament reef]

nah that’s right

one of your stats rolls at the new cap and the rest go to your new minimum

[smoky latch]

Did you have a look at the stats? What is out of line for you?

[versed glacier]

Can I reroll the max stat?
Like weapon dmg or DTTOC?

[lament reef]

nope

[unkempt terrace]

i been wondering is there a build tinker with heartbreaker?

[lament reef]

you can upgrade a whole new weapon or hope to get a random drop

they say they are working on prototype tinkering and it will come “later”

[smoky latch]

you cannot change anything but the augment on a proto piece

[versed glacier]

rip 😄

[grizzled garnet]

or wait for the future

[smoky latch]

Yeah let's see about that

[lament reef]

the first striker’s target loot day is going to cause server lag

[smoky latch]

I want full tinkering, man

I need to change the talent on my Lex

[grizzled garnet]

ar or lmg too

[lone glacier]

I wish I had a Lex

[smoky latch]

If it had Measured it'd be perfect for me

[onyx sage]

eh strained is not the worst

[smoky latch]

Could be worse but it's a little frustrating

Let's hope they allow the tinkering properly

[smoky latch]

Save your scouts for the stretch goals later this season

[lone glacier]

Thats the plan

[lunar dune]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[junior lagoon]

bruh this is good

[gentle lichen]

strained is honestly better than killer at t10 esc lmao

[worn charm]

Upgrade or drop?

[junior lagoon]

must be upgrade

[worn charm]

Bcs if its upgrade then it doesnt make sense to not have the measured he wants 😂 and if he upgraded it with measured then its just the bug and the talent will change back after relog, and the stats will most likely not be maxed unless you won a lottery

[junior lagoon]

well drops are also not that good

[ionic whale]

Guys! I need help getting the quick step pistol! 🔫

[rich cosmos]

Can’t

[uncut yarrow]

Ask for minihounds bounty in LFG

Go farm them you'll get it soon enough

[lost wren]

i imagine mk46 is also the best lmg with other talents too like killer or measured

[ionic whale]

I don't have the bounties!🤦‍♂️

[uncut yarrow]

Thats why you ask for someone who does

Run back and forth despawning the houndsman and respawning the dogs

[ionic whale]

That's why I'm asking here

[uncut yarrow]

Ask in an LFG channel

[violet shadow]

What's A good lmg for Tipping scales frenzy Messured build? Other than the Gr9 it has too much ammo and I can't get back to frenzy fast enough

[lost wren]

mk46 probably

[uncut yarrow]

#lfg-playstation

[violet shadow]

I'll check it out I'm open to all Ideas so if anyone else has another lmg they might recommend feel free to hit me with it

[uncut yarrow]

What do frenzy and measured do again?

[sinful tinsel]

any advice to improve this build other than optimization

[uncut yarrow]

There's always Alejandro, Iron Lung, Pestilence

[violet shadow]

I'm terrible at explaining and I'm not home I'm just about to leave work so I can't look but it's a great combo

[sinful tinsel]

i think im just not used to running glass cannon

[urban latch]

Not necessarily. Frenzy on the MK46 is so good because of how the up time frenzy ends up working out with it. So it doesn't exactly translate to being top with other talents

[uncut yarrow]

Alright. Well basically any lmg works as long as you can get bullets out. Alejandro locks you down in a corner more. Iron lung reloads more but spreads fire

[lost wren]

what would be the best gen use lmg then

[violet shadow]

I'm using tinkers thr big al won't work

[uncut yarrow]

Tinkers does statuses and shit right?

[violet shadow]

No

[uncut yarrow]

I dont remember these things lol no thats vile

[grim bluff]

Tinker let's your primary use the secondary talent too, as long as they're not named or exotic

[violet shadow]

Yep

But I've been using 2 gr9s and 260 rounds make it hard to get back to frenzy quickly

[uncut yarrow]

Oh so then yea nevermind no exotics

[violet shadow]

The build is also for incursion love birds so I can't change it up too much

[warm lagoon]

Am I dumb? How do I get my offensive stacks to 50 lol

[uncut yarrow]

MG5 maybe? More reload and its what the iron lung is on

[violet shadow]

I'll test it out The damage must exceed a certain number too for it to work The build can reach up to 3-5mil a round So if it can't reach 3 mill then I'll have to scap that Idea

[copper holly]

Guys does anyone know if you can roll cric damage on the yaahl hallow mask from the blueprint?

[violet shadow]

You should be able to it's a high end isn't it i believe I have 2 one wirh crit chance and one with crit damage should make a 3rd for pvp with armor regen

[mild dawn]

yes, its blue core item so it just really likes to roll blue attributes on it

[lost wren]

enter t3 escalation knowing i can do it solo just fine
rogue agents detected
shoot at me before i even open the door to the next room
get killed by fire sticky spam
lose all my tokens and now i'm at t0

i guess that's enough div 2 for now

[grizzled garnet]

possible yes. likely no

[violet shadow]

That is without Expertise on it btw

[violet shadow]

Have you dealt with rouges at T6... they're not fun just a heads up

[sinful tinsel]

my strikers build sorta mogs even though in theory the refactor build should be better

[copper holly]

Looks like i need to keep going, done about 30 masks so far

[lost wren]

why are rogue agents even in escalation again

[violet shadow]

I don't even know I was doing T6 with a few of my clan mates in the first mission you do with saint

And we heard that noise that gives ptsd ans then next thing we know we were trapped by rouges they rush like crazy

[sinful tinsel]

just imagine if hunters were in escalation

[lost wren]

escalation is so shit lol

[lost wren]

wouldn't be surprised if they added them

[violet shadow]

Oh dear god Hunters at T6 I'd be in the corner shivering my timbers

[sinful tinsel]

nah they would make it so you have to get expertise 30 to not have them spawn

[violet shadow]

Sounds about right

[lost wren]

no drops either as well

[civic meteor]

What’s that uh backpack with the puzzle piece

[lost wren]

ninjabike

[violet shadow]

Okay mk46 and Mg5 are 2 Lmgs I'm going to look for after work

[smoky latch]

That one is upgraded by accident. Wanted to upgrade another one instead

[copper holly]

Got it finally after about 70 rolls

[grizzled garnet]

🙏 gratz

[copper holly]

Never thought it be so hard lol

[grizzled garnet]

it is when rnjesus doesnt smile upon you

[violet shadow]

Wish I could share One of my 2 characters have 4 and the other has 2

[violet shadow]

Nice

[civic meteor]

Would the Ninjabike also assume the talent of the gear set? Like for strikers for example?

[subtle bluff]

But then lose a BP talent

[lament reef]

yes it can fill out the 4piece set bonus

but there is not a single gearset or brand set where the set bonus is better than having an actual backpack

[civic meteor]

No no I meant like

[lament reef]

no it would not get striker backpack’s .7 to .9 per stack increase

[civic meteor]

For striker the backpack talent will make the damage modifier go from 0.65 to 0.90 does ninjabike do that for

[next dawn]

no it replaces the backpack talent with +1 to brand and gear set

[smoky latch]

Using NBB makes you lose ANY backpack talent

[civic meteor]

Oh :((

[lament reef]

which is why it’s so terrible

[smoky latch]

In PvE*

[civic meteor]

I feel like I’m lacking if I’m not using an exotic somewhere in my gear set tho

[smoky latch]

You don't need any exotics in your builds for them to be good

[civic meteor]

True

I’m going to be building a new build tonight then

[next dawn]

I need another fun build

[civic meteor]

I was using the chameleon and it feels actually decent with a red build

[uncut yarrow]

Chameleon feels good on my Foundry Tank build, ngl

[next dawn]

eh chameleon isn't the best 93R build it is

[uncut yarrow]

There you go, ez as that

[civic meteor]

I feel like a glass canon on legendary do I just need more armour?

[next dawn]

thats normal

[civic meteor]

Mmm

[sinful tinsel]

this is my opinion but i feel like the damage on legendary is so high even 6 blue cores will have little difference but will have major impacts on damage

[civic meteor]

What I’m saying

Whilst at the same time I feel like I’m not doing enough damage if I don’t have 5 cores or higher

I run momento and have a blue core on one of my striker’s

Thinking of swapping out for Salvo and a striker backpack

[next dawn]

not taking striker backpack on a striker build is crazy work

[sinful tinsel]

i think memento's talent makes maximising damage more dangerous as you have to go pick up the things but i dont play legendary only reason i have white tusk is cuz i got carried with matchmaking

[civic meteor]

Think so?

[sinful tinsel]

yeah the talent makes striker much better

[minor badger]

I have pestilence, but it’s kinda underleveled yet i really wanna use it. Is there any way i can bring it further up to my current level?

[civic meteor]

My bad I’ll have to change that

[next dawn]

100% the backpack increase damage per stack from .65 to .90

[civic meteor]

Have to do that when I get home

I work today then I grind tonight

[sinful tinsel]

sadly no you're just gonna have to refarm it

is the reason why my expertise feels fast when donating cuz of the global event

[civic meteor]

With the Chameleon I lose like 15% crit chance even tho I’m like at 50% with anything else maybe the internal stat is just really low

[sinful tinsel]

pretty sure you can get +20% with the talent

[subtle bluff]

But it should be where you go below 50 CHC, since you want to proc body first since it's a huge buff.

[civic meteor]

I’m a little scared since I’m changing my build I’m worried that swapping out the momento will just degrade the quality of my build

[dapper glacier]

besides flatline what other talent could work with this build?

[night phoenix]

Are these good for the Mantis?

[next dawn]

attribute: damage to target out of cover

[night phoenix]

okey thanks

[woeful forge]

anyone know a build that could use harrier pride?

bag sounds like a true patriots gimmick

[next dawn]

Sorry its not a very good exotic its best for the stash use memento

[sinful tinsel]

combining true patriot and harrier could be fun ig but i think memento is still better

[woeful forge]

the two do have a similar gimmick in terms of their talent, but memento just does it better?

[sinful tinsel]

yeah, harrier loses all stacks when leaving combat as well

[next dawn]

yes

[woeful forge]

i run memento on a core strength build, have never tried using true patriots even though my friend loves it so much

[sinful tinsel]

i haven't used the harrier tbh but the general answer is to use memento instead

[vernal wing]

You lose all your stacks on Harrier when you leave combat 🤐

[woeful forge]

bummer, it's going to collectt dust like my sanctum imperium

a part of me felt like sanctum could've worked with an eclipse burn build but the gun just feels ass to use

[sinful tinsel]

or my centurions scabbard 🥀

or my btsu gloves which just get deconstructed

[lone violet]

OH BoY Division 2 Core Strength: Hybrid Skill Build That Slaughters Legendary

[mild dawn]

core strength truly the best set if you need to get some easy money on youtube

[lost wren]

THIS IS THE CORE STRENGTH BUILD YOU NEED TO DOMINATE LEGENDARY AND MASTER

[lone violet]

CORE STRENGTH THE NEW META

[next dawn]

False hype type stuff

Core strength is alright

Lots of versatility

[woeful forge]

really like the investor exotic tho, specially an all red one

[versed summit]

IMO it's very overrated. hard to get, and not better then coyote's

[woeful forge]

coyote's is better yeah, i just like how the lights on the mask look when its all red

[lost wren]

?

[woeful forge]

im still pretty new to the game but the one u can craft when u reach lvl 4 field research on gunner, the sleipnir is very good since it has perfect frenzy

if we're including exotics however, big alejandro just never fails

[lost wren]

should've specified, talking about high end lmgs witth killer or measured

[next dawn]

Personally I like the GR9

[solar sable]

perfect talents regularly come in shit weapons with reduced RPM or Base DMG

[versed summit]

mk46 or MG5. just preference

[woeful forge]

oh fr? but shouldn't be the case for all named weapons no?

[solar sable]

not all named weapons are bad, Carnage for example is kinda okay

[lone violet]

this guy said that core strengh can out perform refactor

[versed summit]

sucks to use tbh

[solar sable]

handling sucks yeah

[woeful forge]

man, really liked using dare on a heartbreaker build

[lone violet]

core does not outperform refactor

[lost wren]

what's the difference between them

[versed summit]

short answer is DPS.

MG5 has a better reload and a little better burst, MK46 has a bigger mag and a significant amount more sustain.

[mild dawn]

also the m249 lmgs are the same gun as mk46

[lost wren]

are they? lmao

[versed summit]

Yes, but less cool

[mild dawn]

now thats just backwards

[civic meteor]

I wanna switch my momento backpack for a strikers but I’m worried that I won’t be able to get all the bonuses I’m use too especially with my shield not getting the two tiers and everything, is there anything I should do like stack armour cores or?

[versed summit]

Its true

[versed summit]

Get used to it tbh. Having the extra damage is pretty nice, especially not having to rely on the pickups. It'll be a little harder short term, but encourages you to play more tactically.

[lost wren]

what is the base gun for the bell ringer?

[mild dawn]

big scary spreadsheet is friend

[lost wren]

so only world drop mg5 is good
lmao what's the point of bell ringer

[dreamy valve]

Gimmick gun

[lost wren]

what about gear shift?

oh it's a mk46

cool i get a perfect measured mk46

should be fun with striker

[civic meteor]

Dayum

[quiet plinth]

Didnt think about it till now, but an all blue roll of investor could work really nicely into a general use strikers build, giving the most of the passive survivability comfort of memento without any conditions, while also freeing up a slot for the stiker backback

[minor badger]

How good is the diamondback rifle?

[dreamy valve]

Haven’t tried, cool skin for a named weapon tho

[dreamy valve]

Outdated exotic, normal 1886 is better now

[dreamy valve]

Core strength: Dominate Tier 10 Escalation. God Mode with red circle and arrow in AI generated thumbnail

[fickle sparrow]

whats the best core strength build atm guys...probs for escalation

[lone violet]

CORE STRENGH FOR MASTER RAID???

[rich cosmos]

That 10% weapon handling doing jack shit for core strength lol

Id honestly say the set bonuses are what hold it back

[quiet plinth]

No you dont understand
Its gamechanging

[rich cosmos]

They just really aren’t that great

Like woah, 5% weapon damage on the 3 piece

Like changing the 2 piece to 15% crit chance immediately improves it

[dreamy valve]

You get like 30% weapon handling from global modifiers lul

[rich cosmos]

Id even accept just 10%

Just swap the handling to crit chance and change the 3 piece to 7.5% for each

[quiet plinth]

What if
The 2pc and 3pc set bonus
Was just one of each core
6 additional cores total

[rich cosmos]

Eh

Skill tier would be very intriguing tho as a bonus

Hell yeah even then Id take a single skill tier over that weapon handling

[quiet plinth]

Thatd be part of it too
You get at absolute minimum, tier 2 with tons of efficiency, and additional stat buffs

[subtle bluff]

🤨

[rich cosmos]

Having all 3 for free just doesn’t seem fair

[runic thicket]

What attributes should I look for on heartbreaker pieces?

I'm targeting it for proficiency and thought I should keep the best ones for later

[rich cosmos]

Red attributes like crit chance and damage

[quiet plinth]

I mean itd be a neat gearset that plays into what it does
But you could also maybe make the 2 pc bonus +1 core of the attribute you have the least of (inclusive), and the 3pc set is +2 cores of the attribute you have the most of (inclusive)

[merry stone]

ok playing cd, lot of players are running faster than me. what build are they using??

[quiet plinth]

Wait that'd actually be broken as hell

[quiet plinth]

Quickstep pistol

[smoky latch]

Speedhack pistol

[merry stone]

damn

[subtle bluff]

The post above

[quiet plinth]

These being inclusive means it would give its bonuses to multiple, if applicable (cuz you could have multiple at the lowest at once)
But thinking about it, it could get out of hand really quickly
Say you pick 2 of each core, so you have an even amount of each, so both set bonuses triggers for all of them, giving you +1 and +2 for each attribute, giving you at 15 cores, all of which would feed into core strength

Maybe some other logic rather than inclusive lol

[pine monolith]

Lookin for suggestions on a HF with chatterbox build this season, trying to be legendary viable with a group.

[subtle bluff]

HF isn't good in groups due to how most of HF talent procs on kill.

Both HF and Chatterbox are really a solo thing.

[pine monolith]

Mmm unfortunate. I'm the run'n'gun aggressive playstyle type, I rather enjoy hf with chatterbox. Been running striker/overdogs/st elmo with 6 reds and while I love the damage it gets boring just sitting back mowing everything down.

[subtle bluff]

standard response not wanting to use striker.

[lost wren]

it really is striker or nothing out here

[pine monolith]

It's so boring... Anytime I find a fun build I always learn the hard way it's never viable for endgame.

[subtle bluff]

so you can carry a group on strikers thru master or leggo?

hell TS/Striker/ND

[pine monolith]

For the most part yea. If I'm not being shot I drop everything.

[subtle bluff]

Standard reponse for most players.

Dealling the most dmg you will have the most threat.

[lost wren]

decoy my beloved

[frozen hull]

Yeah it’s a meh set and really not even worth the time to have made it … unless someone finds out some niche use of it .. it’s an immediate dismantle.

[rich cosmos]

I personally really do think the issue is the set bonuses

They are doing next to nothing for the talent

[fickle sparrow]

whats a good core strength build pls...off top of my head im thinking ninja bag....picaros holster overdogs? run it all red and run drone and turret with capacitor? but im not toal;ly sure how it works haha i know its 40% of the other 2 cores but dunno what you get for that 40%

[lost wren]

core strength is majorly busted in pvp though
you basically get 6 cores in everything with very little downside

[rich cosmos]

Thats for the PvP devs to worry about they already established they can change the stats for that specifically so Im not worried there

[flint arch]

decoy and emp sticky

[pine monolith]

So what are the "meta" builds this season then that excell in group play on the core aspects?

[subtle bluff]

"Good

[subtle bluff]

Hasn't changed much thru the past 2 years.

[lost wren]

other than striker, if you still want to do dps you can run negotiator's dilemma

[frozen hull]

The set bonuses definitely suck

[pine monolith]

So... 4pc striker/equalizer/overdogs with a st elmo and 6 reds it is then...

[lost wren]

could also do pvgc striker if you're bold enough

[pine monolith]

Pvgc?

[lost wren]

perfect vigilance + perfect glass cannon

[pine monolith]

Ahhh

I mean you get immediately dropped on legendary anyway what's glass cannon gonna change

[lost wren]

that's the idea
could drop revive hive for emp sticky, would probably be better in leggo against hounds
keep hive if you want though

could also run good high end ars with killer or measured if st elmo's bores you

[rich cosmos]

Genuinely holding the gear set back, swapping handling for crit chance alone would be nice

[lost wren]

or lmgs, been getting into using lmgs like the mk46 and am havinng some fun with those

[frozen hull]

Day one of strikers

[runic thicket]

I got ninjabike. Heard about people using it a lot but I don't know what's good about it yet

[pine monolith]

I mean st elmo is boring but there's no argument that 71 rd mag is just unmatched. Also is that a website for buildcrafting?

[subtle bluff]

Not really. Some of the Fastest solo leggo runs use PGC Gift striker.

[flint arch]

its a bad backpack in PvE

[frozen hull]

I can’t remember when

[pine monolith]

I meant you get dropped even without it so I was saying the 60% probably won't feel like much of a change.

[subtle bluff]

Elmo never was amazing at DPS that because YouTuber and general public.

[rich cosmos]

Id argue I think the 3 piece should be unique stats and not the same ones the talent gives you because it means they have to be lower, like swapping the 5% skill eff for 15% skill repair

[runic thicket]

Oh. Well at least I got btsu datagloves 😬

[lost wren]

st elmo is better sustain with some cc but high ends with killer or measured is better burst

[runic thicket]

I only use Elmo, it's awesome

[flint arch]

it's a well-known noob trap. a lot of people see the NBB talent and think that it's good, but you actually lose a lot more by foregoing a high-end or gear set's backpack talent than any stats you could get

[pine monolith]

What high end can outdo elmo? Lexington I'm guessing?

[flint arch]

even police m4

[subtle bluff]

You can't drop immediately with our health gate.

[subtle bluff]

My showcase show one.... Like outright beat elmo.

[smoky latch]

Nah bro, the king is dead, long live the king :>

[runic thicket]

I got strega

[pine monolith]

What showcase?

[flint arch]

That feeling when you kill the enemy nailing your face while health gated

[smoky latch]

(May contain sarcasm)

[lost wren]

lexi is best, if no lexi use police m4, famas, carbine 7, p416

or lmgs liike mg5, mk46, and m249

[subtle bluff]

This one

[lost wren]

honestly i'm starting to like using the lmgs more
huge sustain and burst

[flint arch]

iron lung

[lost wren]

speaking of lmgs, mg5 and mk46 are best no?

[smoky latch]

I was joking. Don't do that

[subtle bluff]

MG5 has the best balance of everything IMO.

[flint arch]

core strength is a no-brainer in that you can immediately tell it will be a jack of no trades, master of nothing

[lost wren]

need to get one with killer and one with measured, too bad they have to be world drops

[smoky latch]

That's the Sheia LaBeouf attitude 💪

[subtle bluff]

I just got one with CHC on it already

[lost wren]

in the meantime i'll just use mk46

mk46 with killer and gear shift which is just mk46 with perfect measured

[flint arch]

GR9 with Frenzy

[subtle bluff]

You just gave me a great idea a way to show a compares between BF to other weapons like a MG5 w/Killer

[lost wren]

BF?

[subtle bluff]

Backfire

[flint arch]

slap it on Striker without any magazine size stats or mods and Frenzy will expire the moment the mag is emptied, allowing you to chain Frenzy over and over

[lost wren]

oh i should've guessed
could be a cool idea

[lost wren]

ye i use gr9 frenzy already

i'm more just thinking of gen use lmgs with killer or measured

[flint arch]

Great for marauders

Though I've been more receptive to a Ravenous build that I'm sure will get me killed by Chow

[subtle bluff]

Rav is just as good. 😄

Nah. Rav has it's strength when used right it's unbeatable.

[dreamy valve]

Can we save combos like a loadout?

[subtle bluff]

Only because a build isn't need to use Rav.

[flint arch]

what

[subtle bluff]

Using the one word in Rav talent that no one seem to read correectly

[flint arch]

which word

[subtle bluff]

amp

[flint arch]

...oh wait

[peak glen]

Is overdogs still the best for striker? I know some say that it’s not worth it due to the buff being difficult to maintain

[subtle bluff]

You shoot things and things die. Some thing will just diie faster

[lost wren]

very strong but some prefer consistency

[flint arch]

okay, primers can reach 10 stacks. primer effectiveness is doubled at 10 stacks. 10% amp damage to armor plates per defensive primer. 200% amplified damage to armor plates for 5s?

[subtle bluff]

Hence the video I keep linking about it

[fickle sparrow]

on core strength build will crit chance matter on capacitor? or should i roll/mod into damage

[flint arch]

also is the amp only for yourself or for your entire party

[subtle bluff]

Weapons ALWAY DTTooC

wtf?

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff no i mean for the over all build ...should i roll into crit chance for 50+ or roll into damage

[subtle bluff]

Standard DPS things

[subtle bluff]

You've seen the clip I"ve posted a few times right?

[flint arch]

I don't remember sir

[subtle bluff]

Rav full talent being used correctly

[fickle sparrow]

can som,eone answer my question as im right in middle of making the build....with core strenth build and using capacitator do i roll the gear into crit chance for atleast 50 or does crit chance not matter on capacitator? or maybe roll atleast 50 chc incase i change gun?

[subtle bluff]

.........

[pine monolith]

Wtf did I just watch lol

[subtle bluff]

Above.

[subtle bluff]

Why and only why when rav is good. This can be used on armor plated guys to VERY high DPS.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff ok thank you...its just people always said chc doesnt matter much with capacitor when iv made skill builds in the past....hence my question...this more hybrid though so yeh il roll chc ty

[pine monolith]

How difficult are the raids anyway? They very mechanic heavy or do you generally just kill?

[subtle bluff]

That's the Gold standard

[subtle bluff]

DH basically small DPS check.
IH all mechanics.

Both released before strikers was a thing.

[pine monolith]

So strikers trivializes the dps checks I'm assuming.

[subtle bluff]

Make it easier/quicker...
Sadly players still have issues...

[pine monolith]

Looks like I'm finally gonna do them this year cause the season journey is forcing me so.

[subtle bluff]

It's fun learn.

[pine monolith]

Yea just getting 8 competent people together is the time consuming part.

[smoky latch]

I don't get why ppl complain about that. So easy to find people for it

[violet juniper]

GCRock does a lot of matchmaking

[subtle bluff]

Last night I was hanging without with 2 friends in a raid room. Changed the room name to DH and within 5 mins had a full raid..

[flint arch]

lol

also was this a pre-nerfed oreo

[subtle bluff]

The weapon doens't really matter.

Famas would of been just as good.

[flint arch]

[last schooner]

is there a cap on how many Skill Tiers Capacitor's bonuses uses?

if I run 6 yellow + tech does it get all 7 core's dmg bonus?

[subtle bluff]

yes

[last schooner]

but I'm guessing even with 7 yellow + 60% chc using Core strength, Capacitor DPS will still be mid due to lack of chest talent?

[dreamy valve]

It’s not about difficulty, it’s about the experience for these modes. Do you like hardline cooperation for your game? Than this mode is for you

[subtle bluff]

Don't listen to this..

[dreamy valve]

Do you like dealing with different types of personalities in a long form mission structure? Than it’s for you

[subtle bluff]

Stating your own biased opinion about this isn't helpful.

[violet juniper]

DH is a DPS checker, IH is incredibly mechanics heavy

if you have good teammates, it'll be long but relatively easy. If you have bad/inexperienced teammates, it's gonna be a long day

[lone glacier]

I remember DH when it came out. Ah, the fun times of gearscore and world tiers..

[violet juniper]

I'm of the personal opinion that both raids are outdated crap, but each to their own.

[dreamy valve]

IH has been solved so all you have to do is follow what the raid leader says and you’ll be fine, if you are in a good group that is

[lone glacier]

Lets add Escalation to raids. Tier 10 IH anyone?

[violet juniper]

Morozova has a 2.2% chance of dropping prototype gear.

Get grinding

[subtle bluff]

The people that have 10x the clears in IH and DH than I have in incursion is wild to me. I have 2k clears.

[dreamy valve]

A whole 1% chance over regular tier 9 escalation? Sign me up

[subtle bluff]

Within 1 1/2 year

[lone glacier]

Honestly if I would've kept playing Div2 instead of quitting I'd have way too many raid clears as I used to sherpa DH

[subtle bluff]

But +20k clears?

[lone glacier]

Yeah no, not that many. But easily in the thousands regardless

[subtle bluff]

Understandable I'd have like 4k incursion but I enjoy doing the helping in here and other channels just as much.

[lone glacier]

Yeah same. I try to help as much as I can myself

[smoky latch]

You're built different, sir

[flint arch]

i wish i could even go anywhere near a raid/incursion

[smoky latch]

LFG in GCROCK or Div2 community discord

[flint arch]

[hollow portal]

yo chat

[flint arch]

the IH raid i joined was deeply traumatizing

[hollow portal]

best build for solo heroics? (all red builds are cooked I die too quick)

I dont have proto yet im trying to get something good enough to grind for now

[flint arch]

red striker

[last schooner]

all red builds are best for heroic

[flint arch]

now if you don't mind taking a little longer to clear heroic, you can just add blue cores, but note that each blue core will hurt your damage, and you need to run a shield for the blue core to be meaningful

you can also just put memento on striker

[hollow portal]

how are u guys not insta dying with ALL reds ?

[flint arch]

good positioning, corner peeking, knowledge of enemy behavior and the health gate mechanic

its something you learn from experience tbh

[dreamy valve]

Even experienced players still die from time to time, it’s just how the game is

[smoky latch]

We use cover

[flint arch]

oh yeah btw use tall cover, short cover sucks

[subtle bluff]

You do not need proto gear at all

[flint arch]

i don't have proto gear and i only trigger my revive hive once or twice in t5 escalation

[open pulsar]

Best investor I managed to get, 5% chc, 30.8% chd 9% hazard protection and 1% armor regen, worth swapping out salvo for ?

[flint arch]

swap out salvo for overdogs

[open pulsar]

I'll probably optimize it, dont wanna waste more trying to get full red

[open pulsar]

Weakest link isnt worth it imo, its preference

[subtle bluff]

It still does more overall.

Just go Ceska instead then if you don't wanna worry about it.

[open pulsar]

30% dmg < up to 32% crit dmg tho

[subtle bluff]

LOL what?

[flint arch]

one multiplies your damage at the end of the damage calculation by 1.3, one is additive with your CHD. the latter will affect your damage way less.

[onyx sage]

32% crit dmg isn't really that much after it gets reduced by your chc, on average the increase is much less

[ivory abyss]

O_O

[open pulsar]

I'll die on this hill.

[flint arch]

where's that blurry dps formula image

[onyx sage]

assuming 60% chc 150% chd before getting the 32%, it's only a 10% increase

[subtle bluff]

The comment after is the one..

[ivory abyss]

You must be using the perk backwards maybe

[onyx sage]

that's overdogs with a third uptime

[hollow portal]

did they change the revive hive ? it doesnt auto trigger now it seems ?

[subtle bluff]

nope

[onyx sage]

it does unless you are shocked or emp'd

[flint arch]

if you're being shocked or emp'd it will not trigger

[smoky latch]

Check clan chat

[ivory abyss]

Okay so I am assuming down the line recal is coming for prototypes since they said in the last patch something about it possibly coming down the line. Which means upgrading prototypes is prob still the best way since you get 100% 1 max stat? possibly 2 lol

[onyx sage]

100% chance for at least 1 yeah

[ivory abyss]

optimizing the pieces that drop currently lol yeah good luck with that

it would be like optimizing a piece that drops on normal mode

[onyx sage]

gta 6 will come before we get prototype optimization

[hearty owl]

nerd

[hollow portal]

where do I see the retaliation meter ?

is it the white circles around the factions in the ret tab ?

[subtle bluff]

Map

[night veldt]

i feel like theres something im missing with skill damage but no matter what i do my drone and turret dont even break 140k damage. i have skill damage on all my pieces, capacitor, technician, waveform holster, and force multiplier with skill damage with the seasonal modifier. i am using the refactor set so im not getting as much as i could, but i feel like even with all of this stacked i should be hitting for more even if im using refactor instead of a more damaging set

also have skill damage on literally every piece of gear too

[silent storm]

140k is decent DMG

[clever merlin]

bro i got stuck here wtf

[night veldt]

really?

thought i should be hitting more with all of this stacked up and felt like i was missing something somewhere

[subtle bluff]

Waveforms isn't the way.

But also skill DPS isn't gonna be a great in general. It does work but you shooting will do more DPS than your skills

[night veldt]

the idea behind using it was to have some way of healing my team on top of doing okay damage for escalations

[summer totem]

What does weapon handling affect again

[night veldt]

accuracy stability and i believe reload speed

[subtle bluff]

everything that's not DMG

[subtle bluff]

Refactor isn't that great on escalation imo. The healing isn't gonna be able to keep up and drone getting shot out all the time at higher tiers.

[night veldt]

wasnt really gonna go beyond 5 with it. just wanted something to give some sustain while also using skills. seemed fun at first but saw how low the damage was and wasnt sure if i was doing something wrong

what would be the other set for healing though bc i do want something to use in higher tiers

[thorn glade]

it's kidna weird question thou, does the strega's amplified damage amplify status effects damage like glass cannon?

[subtle bluff]

FI

[subtle bluff]

No. Unless it's source like amp it doesn't.

[thorn glade]

thanks to you help me a lot

[subtle bluff]

overdogs is the only that isn't stated

[half junco]

Which lmg should I be using for tipping scales?

[subtle bluff]

Almost any works

Guides for it are in the Pinned Messages if you follow thru the Sheet 2

[thorn glade]

I saw some people using blue screen, but not sure cuz i haven't use that build before

[subtle bluff]

A lot LMG work well with TS.

[flint arch]

RPK

[fickle sparrow]

with the passive global modifiers split (utility) ....compress (utility)....and nullify......are all 3 bonuses in play/ so il get 30 weapon handling....15 armour and 67.5 skill damage?

[subtle bluff]

Are you filtering out the importants words in my post

[flint arch]

Yes

[violet juniper]

Best ones are things like Iron Lung, Pesti, big Alejandro

[silent storm]

Pakhan is fun on TS as well

[flint arch]

cooler

[thorn glade]

GR9 with steadyhand is also good i think

[foggy oar]

gr9 with measured, i also like bluescreen or bullet king on TS, yet to try out pestilence...can't get it

[thorn glade]

about gr9, tinkerer might make some good combination

well i don't have that mask thou lol

[subtle bluff]

Not that special

[thorn glade]

is it so?

[subtle bluff]

Just mentioning again. Almost anny LMG is fine on TS. Finding something that match your playstyle is gonna be the key,

[wet wren]

m249/mk46 is really comfortable since frenzy lasts just about long enough to dump your whole mag, and the reload is pretty fast

[ivory abyss]

for this to be true do you run something other than ext mag for that slot?

[onyx sage]

it needs to be 150 rounds iirc

[wet wren]

i got 195 with the pouch

i can dump the whole mag with frenzy

[onyx sage]

150 is ideal since it ends right when you reload

ideally you don't want any rounds to be left over after frenzy ends in 9s, but that's not the end of the world. the worse case is you reload too early before frenzy ends and your next mag doesn't get frenzy

[wet wren]

195 i can shoot the whole thing

maybe i dont catch it since i dont see a buff timer but no way its anything more than 5 bullets not catching the buff

maybe the 5% rate of fire from unit alloys is making a difference who knows

[subtle bluff]

The only issues with mk46 is the reload is so slow you're losing stacks during the reload but it's still good.

[wet wren]

thats true

pray that everything is dead and it doesnt matter or you got something to suppress

[onyx sage]

it's on the gun

[wet wren]

oh

[onyx sage]

but yeah the reload is so ass I just use gr9 instead

[hearty mesa]

whats better on bighorn hsd or dttoc

[open pulsar]

Whoever recommended me the iron lung on striker, thanks it slams

[subtle bluff]

always DTTooC

[hearty mesa]

ty

[summer totem]

Even crit?

@subtle bluff you have one shot pistol and 1886 build? 👉👈

[subtle bluff]

HHF

[subtle bluff]

Meaning everything but CHC/CHD/HSD

[summer totem]

Alr thanks

[summer totem]

Whut

[subtle bluff]

Head Hunter Fury

It's in build hub under HF more or less.

[silver coral]

any good build for the birdie quick fix?

[junior lagoon]

GR9 to the bitter end. Not jumping the ship

[solar sable]

it's best to hotswap to it than to build around it

[sacred flare]

Who can help me to make this build

Or advice

[smoky latch]

You just use it to hotswap to it. Not to build around it.

[silver coral]

in the middle of the fight, is that even possible?

[smoky latch]

Sure. Get in cover and swap rq

Helps to not to have 30 backpacks in your inventory

[solar sable]

is the build in the room with us?

[sacred flare]

What you mean 😭

[smoky latch]

Don't you see it, doomzi?

:>

[solar sable]

I ain't seeing nothing

[fading orbit]

what is the best skill build for endgame group content? refractor?

[solar sable]

best is subjective, as always

[solar sable]

what is this build you want advice on?

[fading orbit]

what is the one that you like most to have on your team xd

[sacred flare]

I’m making a dps build I wanna see if I’m doing it right

[solar sable]

depends on what my team needs lol
Maybe they want CC, maybe Healing, maybe Mortar...

[silver coral]

is it possible to get skill damage on salvo?

[smoky latch]

Sure

[solar sable]

you can recalibrate it, yes, although... why do you want RPM on a skill build?

[silver coral]

without calibrating?

[solar sable]

yes

[sacred flare]

Do you wanna see my build

[smoky latch]

yes ofc

[silver coral]

something fun that is not meta

[solar sable]

just post the build so we can help, broracho 🙏

[sacred flare]

Where like in here

[subtle bluff]

Yes here.

[mystic quiver]

Is there anything in prototypes that would cause a massive difference in damage?

I have an E30 M4 and a prototype SCOM mk16 i picked up.

the M4 is spiking around 700k but the Mk16 proto (with DTA) is rolling around 1.2 mil (invulnerable target so no talent activation for killer)

[solar sable]

off to a good start ngl

[mystic quiver]

I cant think of anything and the base on the SOCOM doesnt seem that much higher to cause such a disparity

[sacred flare]

What do I need to fix

[solar sable]

swap Nego vest to Equalizer or Ceska w/Glass Cannon and use Nego knees

[solar sable]

no, not the bag, the vest

[sacred flare]

Ohh

I don’t have the vest

[solar sable]

go get it lol

[sacred flare]

how

It’s been forever when I played this game

[solar sable]

follow the Lvl40 Starters Guide, it helps a lot

[sacred flare]

Oh okay

Or just the vest

[silver coral]

is bulldog backpack is better than the tipping backpack?

[silent storm]

No

[lament reef]

bulldog looks kind of terrible

[silver coral]

are hunter smgs build mostly for solo

[lilac harbor]

It’s more efficient solo

[silver coral]

and is firewall better on hunter smg?

[livid sorrel]

hf relies on kills so it falls off in groups

[lilac harbor]

Especially with the health scaling up in groups

[silver coral]

are there any set good for SMG besides HF?

[livid sorrel]

striker

[lilac harbor]

Yea basically

Pretty hard not to mention strikers if you looking with what gear set works with smgs

[silver coral]

the sad reality

yea il try that since i never tried striker on SMG before

[silent storm]

Do you have Chatterbox?

[lilac harbor]

HF is more fun than strikers

[soft crane]

I've been going with the stackless striker these days for Countdown.

[silver coral]

yea i do

[civic meteor]

How many armor cores should I go for?

[buoyant perch]

For pve - 0

[soft crane]

0

[civic meteor]

Not even on legendary lol

[soft crane]

Why You Should Run 6 Red Cores 👈

Correct.

[buoyant perch]

Yup

[soft crane]

Legendary difficulty just require much more teamwork than usual and thats about it.

[buoyant perch]

Same thing with escalation tier 10

[soft crane]

Escalation

[flint arch]

you might as well have 0 armor in t10 escalation anyway

only thing between you and dying instantly is health gate

[buoyant perch]

Exactly

[civic meteor]

This build is a little busted

[soft crane]

What build?

[subtle bluff]

I love no context...

[low shuttle]

Any good build for support on high end things like escalation and master mode, like a foam one.

[civic meteor]

Strikers with backpack with salvo equalizer and the chameleon

[soft crane]

oh you mean crowd control. Err... try 4 pieces Eclipse protocol including the chest piece, exotic vile mask, electrique backpack with creeping death talent, named Mk.17 rifle everlasting gaze, exotic scorpio shotgun, and burner specialist

[loud sleet]

Lavoisier as the electrique yes

[soft crane]

what does that do?

[loud sleet]

When you apply some status effects you and your teammates get 50% of your armor as bonus armor bonus armor is always useful

[soft crane]

thats Galvanize isnt it

[loud sleet]

Don't remember talent names but lavoisier has the perfect one

[violet saddle]

On the range its giving me 188k damage, 396k crit. Is there an issue w core strength numbers like that?

[analog mural]

CS dmg is whatever tbh, the main selling point of CS is that u get a bunch of yellow cores for better skills

while having half-decent dmg and defense (which is worthless btw)

[flint arch]

i will explode if i see another CS build

[subtle bluff]

They didn't say 2mill armor at least..

[flint arch]

"SHREDS T10 ESCALATION!"

[subtle bluff]

DFA FB group I saw a post some one venting about if he see another person say CS will out dps striker.....

[molten thorn]

the roguegold line was "HYBRIDS ARE BACK"

[flint arch]

Only thing being shredded is your tokens

[livid sorrel]

Red CS is beaten by literally any DPS gearset, Blue CS has the same issue as tanks with slightly more damage

[flint arch]

"CS will out dps Striker" is a wild statement

[subtle bluff]

HE build will out DPS cs...

[flint arch]

better utility and survivability, sure, at least you can kinda defend that point. but no way is the gear set that screams "jack of all trades, master of none" ever coming close to the dedicated DPS gear set in terms of DPS

[analog mural]

i immediately knew that red CS will be worse than yellow CS due to the lack of skill tiers to buff up ur skills

but honestly thats about it coz the skills u usually run on a dps build are revive hive and a shield

revive hive at tier 6 is no different than tier 0 if ur just gonna die first

shield is nice ig

[subtle bluff]

is that right? idk how CS work even..

core color buff other color minors

[livid sorrel]

have core get 40%/75% of other color cores

[analog mural]

imagine minor cores gave you bonuses of other minor cores

[flint arch]

unless the other color core is yellow, in which case screw you, you only get skill efficiency

[analog mural]

instantly dethrones strikers frfr

[livid sorrel]

that's investor mask