td2-build-advice

[onyx sage]

the AI is very simple, they always try to change cover to get LOS on you, and then they try to shoot you, if you move away then they'll keep doing that, their goal is always to try to shoot you

and if some enemies are hiding, shoot the ones that aren't, always look for new targets. idk these are just basics in this game

[serene coyote]

I need recourses BADLY like titanium and stuff like that what’s the best way for me to get them? Like fastest and a lot of it

[merry obsidian]

Reset control points, go hit up all of them and open every little bag you see. Run Countdown and dump all your creds on the resource caches. Unsure what's the "best" but those are what I usually do.

[solar bison]

best LMG to use with tipping scales?

[merry obsidian]

Pakhan isn't a bad choice if you can get kills to keep your drum size up because the low RPMs let you hold down the trigger, but it's rough if you like to swap to Quickstep. Bluescreen has been really nice for me lately. Large drum and fast reload so you can get stacks and keep them.

[silver peak]

any of the exotics tbh they are all really good

bluescreen i think is prolly top but bullet king is REALLY fun to use with it

[midnight grail]

@uncut yarrow I’ve been using a few different variations with ravenous. Umbra with 2-3 armor cores. Momento and foxs knees. With the high crit and rate of fire boost you can absolutely crush through elites. Secondary weapon I’ve just been using interchange when I need high rate of fire when in cover to recharge offensive umbra/regen. Also have been running it with a red core strength build and it has been crushing as well. Can facetank chungas if you’re using the rav talent correctly

[merry obsidian]

Bullet King is definitely the fun choice, for sure. You also really can't go wrong with Pestilence/Turmoil.

[silver peak]

my current setup
its bright cause hdr ignore that
its corny but turmoil really works with the set because you stay on one target longer so you maintain your stacks

[flint arch]

corny indeed

[silver peak]

its espc fun this season cause of the 45% mag boost you can get from the modifiers

never been a better time to use lmgs

[tawdry raven]

this is what the ouroboros talent shouldve been

[sinful tinsel]

anyone got the image with the retal drops with black tusk

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers

[hoary raptor]

What should I change here baring skills I’ll probs run drone and turret

[lone violet]

Anyone got a pistol build?

[coral reef]

ATTENTION EXPERTS. Is there an actual viable way to use Turmoil Kneepads on heroic+ content in groups? All they do is slow things down it seems

[willow sigil]

does hunters fury also use equalizer overdogs

[broken delta]

wait blacktusk drops eagle bearer BP?

[solar sable]

Not really, there are lots of setups for specific things

[solar sable]

yes, all raid weapons except Regulus

[broken delta]

just go there and craft, no bs?

[uncut yarrow]

Everyone keeps saying correctly. Never elaborate on correctly. What exactly is correctly? What i gathered is, at least on big guys you start with charging on blue on them (maybe 2? I dont know if one full thing is 5 stacks or 10 stacks) and then swap to red for 5s or so to get the armor buff and repeat. Smaller guys just swap to blue as you need more armor and such and such. Yes? No? Maybe?

[solar sable]

you gotta get the blueprints from BT9 Kill Squads first but yeah

[broken delta]

so it only drops when i completed the pool of the kill squads?

[uncut yarrow]

It can be your first drop, it could be your last. I thought it was Black Tusk completions though? I have no clue.

[broken delta]

from the picture it seens to be completion

[uncut yarrow]

Thats what i thought? I dont know if the BTSU team is a separate pool? Is it in the completion pool? Is it just a kill squad pool table? When it spawns in a different faction, what pool does it follow then? No idea

[solar sable]

oh, you're right sorry, I keep mistaking Manhunt exotics and Raids from BT Retals 😆

[grizzled garnet]

needs to be repinned

[onyx sage]

equalizer yes, overdogs not really

[subtle bluff]

Yes but it’s more of playstyle and knowledge deal

[next creek]

if i have two st elmos, both max rolls, one with chc and one with dtooc on the tert stat, chc st elmo keeps me at 56%, the out of cover roll drops me to 46$ chc, if i change mods to boost it, my chd drops to 100% ish, whats better overall? (im low Shd lvl)

[coral reef]

dttooc will always be better. If your chc is struggling, its maybe because you're not shd 1000 yet, or have really poor mods. While you fix any of those issues, play with the chc one... save the other for later.

[next creek]

yeah im low shd lvl atm, wondering if i stick to having higher dmg stats then can swap to dtooc down the line

[sinful tinsel]

anyone got a good refactor build for solo heroic im too bad at surviving

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers

[coral reef]

this will carry you to pretty much any solo content in the game. It's too good

[willow sigil]

is oro still the weapon to use?

[subtle bluff]

Yes it can be used

[onyx sage]

it can be used, there are alternatives tho

[willow sigil]

whats the standard now?

[subtle bluff]

SMG9 or Vector with killer

[willow sigil]

oh sweet, and then the high end piece? bloodsucker?

[sinful tinsel]

ive just remembered that i used the capacitor at lvl 35 and i was trying to make it lvl 40 just to realize its impossible

[subtle bluff]

There a guide in the Build Hub

[willow sigil]

that one shows a ceska with memento, no equal

[subtle bluff]

It should example your current question but also the better options.

Obli and P. Obli more or less the same.

Yes it isn’t updated but the basic build theory are there.

[willow sigil]

i see sounds good to me

[lone violet]

What gear is good for a pistol build I got punch drunk and idk what to use

[silver peak]

foundry

[lone violet]

Would over dogs work?

[silver peak]

i mean yes it would but there are probably better things for it i’m not too knowledgeable on pistol specific builds

[lone violet]

I want dps but also have a shield in case

[silver peak]

ngl try a deflector shield it can be kinda silly

[lone violet]

Don’t wanna use YouTube for a pistol build was hoping someone had one in here

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NNLiB-SZH-LChI9gE18q-PdYGqHac4Gep9UQVUtg0as/edit?usp=sharing

[plush thistle]

does glass cannon increase the damage turrets and drones do?

[silver peak]

yes it affects all outgoing damage

[subtle bluff]

All sources of dmg from you

[silver peak]

literally anything that does damage that is directly caused by you is amplified

[boreal thistle]

Turmoil Kneepads make lovebirds on incursion a much easier fight

[sinful tinsel]

whats the best way to farm memento? is it countdown or retal

[solar sable]

pick one, both are great

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers i get carried in countdown so ill pick that one

[coral reef]

does it work while one of them is with the shield/force field thing on?

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough now. Don't do turmoil.

[subtle bluff]

If you learn it correctly they never get the shield.

Well other than the start.

[coral reef]

i suck at incursions and raids sorry

[lone violet]

Uh I don’t have dodge city holster

[subtle bluff]

Come come. Next time I do master classes on incursion

[vernal wing]

Can you just negotiators dilemma them to bypass immune? 😂

[coral reef]

SIGN ME THE F UP 🫡

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't work here.

[subtle bluff]

Next time when I'm free normally in the evening.

[vernal wing]

Which bosses besides Boomer can you damage through immunity?

[subtle bluff]

Tbh dunno.

[broken delta]

if i craft the eagle bearer i cant reconfigure it?

[vernal wing]

You can

Get the reconfigure blueprint from Inaya

[broken delta]

gess i need to wait the restock

[silver peak]

fast travel to summit then back

[subtle bluff]

relog or respawn

[lone violet]

Never done love birds but I got the smg off the black tusk retal so no point in doing it

[fickle sparrow]

for all red striker dps for escalation im running police m4 with killer but should i go pestilence as my secondary? but its only 42% crit chance OR run what i currently have...the black friday...the global modifiers weapon handling negates its negative talent so i get the flat 22% weapon damage out it which i like....OR go bluescreen? but again i get the crit chance drop to 42%

[solar sable]

do your bluescreen and pesti have CHC as third attribute?

[fickle sparrow]

@solar sable damage to armour and crit damage im afraid

i do have dtooc on both

[solar sable]

core atributes are the same always, reroll them until you get CHC

[silver peak]

hm
i know gunner is probably better but the crit for the smg being over 200 is funny

feels like it would be a fun build

[solar sable]

i hate mxswat so much, buildstation is better

[fickle sparrow]

@solar sable cant atm ...materials issue lol il stick with black friday for now until i can i think ty

[broken delta]

guys anyone tested the dps with the investor vs overdogs?

[lone glacier]

Overdogs still better

[subtle bluff]

We don't need to test anything we have number.

But the issues is Investor is the most RNG gear piece.

[flint arch]

massive investment for minimal reward

[next dawn]

So Blurry I can't even read it 😭

[subtle bluff]

Investor will kind win due to uptime IF you get the unicorn for it.

[broken delta]

got this one

[lone glacier]

Thats the big IF yeah. But the chance of getting the unicorn is well.. not high

[subtle bluff]

The other context is like if you have a ton of CHD already overdogs other numer amp is better

[lone glacier]

Damn I was one off the unicorn.
F

[fickle sparrow]

is it worth putting a salvo on a one directive build for proccin bluescreen more often? il be running it in escalation where i find banshee unreliable so il run decoy instead.....it would come at the cost of losing either overdogs or wicked talent

[broken delta]

yeah, once i get a second one i will try with HSD

[subtle bluff]

OD build?

Shooting more doesn't proc Bluescreen CC.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluffoops yeh ongoing directive i meant soz

[subtle bluff]

Remember at +t6 all ads are immune to CC after amount of DMG done to them.

[uncut yarrow]

Doesn't OD give you the hollowpoint ammo?

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff as im not using banshee dont i need the 50 stacks to proc its talent though?

@uncut yarrow yeh im talkin about bluescreens talent

[subtle bluff]

I am solely talking about bluescreen talent

[uncut yarrow]

Yea i would figure OD makes it easier to proc the talent of getting CCs out

As that is what my build does. I dont use it in escalation but still

[subtle bluff]

Different thing we're talking about

[uncut yarrow]

Oh salvo

I gotcha missed the one word. I mean yea you'd just proc faster. Thats about it

[subtle bluff]

No...

[fickle sparrow]

so how do i proc bluescreen then? do i either deploy decoy after a burst of fire or wait till iv hit 50 marks then it auto procs?

[uncut yarrow]

A whole 10% faster to get the 50rds out

[subtle bluff]

I can't SS stuff.. atm

BRB let me find a device.

[subtle bluff]

Plz stop. You're missing all the context..

[uncut yarrow]

Well shooting faster would them build stacks faster. And then if you manage to kill the enemy (in escalation less likely) itll activate.

[fickle sparrow]

@uncut yarrowhmm i never thought about the extra health enemies have in escalation ...good point

[uncut yarrow]

So in my mind, youre just activating that whole sequence faster with more fire rate

[uncut yarrow]

Now yea if you wanna throw a skill out, then yea, you'll proc it. So then you build stacks a little faster, so then you cam throw a skill out sooner and activate the talent, sooner.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff at bottom where it says any marked enemy is killed....does that mean killed by anyone? or has to be by me?

[subtle bluff]

Ok a few things.
Stacking more after 50 doesn't do anything much.

Break it down talent. You have some of the right ideas.

[uncut yarrow]

Seems like anyone. I wanna say ive seen others trigger mine but I have no clue i just throw everything at everyone

[subtle bluff]

BIG thing is that there are DR for CC.

[uncut yarrow]

Which doesn't have much to do with the build other than you have a higher chance of reaching the max DR, as you are shooting and proccing theoretically faster. No? Maybe?

[subtle bluff]

Disruptor Rounds
Shooting an enemy marks that enemy and adds a stack to the agent up to a count of 50.

Shooting a marked enemy refreshes the mark and adds stacks to the agent.

When you deploy a non-shield skill, remove all stacks on agent and all marked targets trigger an effect.

50 stacks is max..

[next dawn]

...gl Chow

[uncut yarrow]

Idk what im saying thats so baffling

Salvo increases fire rate. Fire rate makes shoot faster. More shoot = more stacks. More stacks soon = trigger effect sooner.

[subtle bluff]

I am breaking down Bluescreen works nothing about a build atm...

Once...

[uncut yarrow]

Unless you kill an enemy

[subtle bluff]

OR use a skill..

Then rebuilding..

[uncut yarrow]

Yea i guess it depends what skill you use

[subtle bluff]

ANYTHING other than shield works.

[fickle sparrow]

@uncut yarrow that was my initial thinking but i think its a case of even at 50 stacks it wont proc....it ll only proc at 50 or over after i kill a marked enemy

[uncut yarrow]

I.always run shield so I'd only be able to do it once and then I'd have to kill or wait for CC

[subtle bluff]

DO you not read the talent...

[willow sigil]

for the tac vector, am i supposed to be using the bigger mag or the reload mag?

[uncut yarrow]

Or activate a skill yes. So was saying youre just gonna reach that 50 stacks sooner with more rate of fire

[subtle bluff]

Just reload it's really fast.

[uncut yarrow]

I would only have one skill that procs. Thats what im saying

[subtle bluff]

@fickle sparrow you get the talent now right?

[next dawn]

Bigger mag

[fickle sparrow]

its ok guys i understand the thinkin now why the salvo wont really matter....you can answer baby Ds query now 😜

[uncut yarrow]

Id have to wait for cool down not CC*

[subtle bluff]

I'm gonna ignore the other guys since he's confusing it all.

[uncut yarrow]

No no I don't think i am but sure big dawg

Not a problem thats alright, no biggy

[subtle bluff]

I know why you want it but it's not worth over other gear.
I just wanted you to understand bluescreen first.

[next dawn]

I am very confused indeed

Bro is talking about a whole different topic

[uncut yarrow]

Just hangin out waiting to go home

[subtle bluff]

I just asked you to stop for a min..

[fickle sparrow]

its cool you both helped me understand it tyvm 👍 il stick to wicked and overdogs...play style will be to do a quick burst...throw decoy for a quick proc...then any proc afterwards needs to come from me killing something lol

[subtle bluff]

If you're trying to be a support OD more there a build for lil explaining on how it works in the guide.

[sinful tinsel]

for some reason i did an entire heroic countdown encounter solo im too good

[subtle bluff]

btw you can use a Sticky into the air or into a teammate and it'll go a on a quick CD.

[uncut yarrow]

Only Mike is capable of such things

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff thats exactly what im trying to be and i think i copied the build off the pinned message

[sinful tinsel]

me and this other dude for some reason went to a different encounter then he betrayed me and left and insteadof taking the aura loss and leaving i just owned it and kept going

[uncut yarrow]

Bluescreen is a really fun gun and just spray and pray gun. I dont really use it to the highest, utmost what it could be but I was kickin ass with a little heals and just making everything bleed and shit

[uncut yarrow]

What a lad. Crazy tank build or just melting everything?

[sinful tinsel]

somehow did it with my striker dps build i just hid in a corner and when the vip got downed ran to him then retreated again

[uncut yarrow]

Could be in the middle i guess but some of those rooms get interesting

Very cool

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff da hell he use in that video just before firing?

[subtle bluff]

EMP Sticky

[uncut yarrow]

Forgot that even exists

[subtle bluff]

That's me btw

[wispy hollow]

Thats Chow himself lol

[uncut yarrow]

I lowkey use 3 different skills and that is it

[subtle bluff]

Solo Heroic CD.
https://youtu.be/w77bfopOwY0?si=6OZoM47FZLTCsa01

[sinful tinsel]

no way the entire thing is possible solo

[subtle bluff]

watch..

[next dawn]

It is 🙂

[uncut yarrow]

You just need to melt everything lol

[subtle bluff]

The funnier thing it's using Red GC Backfire

[uncut yarrow]

Backfire cooks

And I guess if you use your DR trick then yea it cook cooks better than any other guns

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff ty..imma go test it

[uncut yarrow]

How long does DR against a status last anyways?

[subtle bluff]

never tested it

The immunity isn't too long

There some weird timing with BF even when immunity or 100 stacks where you can get another bleed. I couldn't get it to happen consistently

[uncut yarrow]

I know backfire has some weird times where the bleed will apply earlier or later? Kinda odd. I like my hazard pro build cuz i dont have to worry about it or anything else and still get up to (not too often) but up to like 1.2 mil dmg per shot

If i ran a full red strikers build i cant imagine the dmg of that thing

But I'll stick with my new Ravenous. Tis very fun and awesome

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff soz to be annoying but dont i need to build up the bluescreen stacks then pop the sticky emp rather than lead with the sticky right away? or are you doing that to get the hollow points right away

[subtle bluff]

Do you understand why Rav isn't strong for all the time use and when it's niche is used it's unbeatable?

[uncut yarrow]

Yes and no? No one has explained it. I figure with the different blue and red stacks and how blue buffs red massively

[subtle bluff]

I use EMP to proc Bluescreen if and when I need the CC.

[uncut yarrow]

Thats how i try to play it is use blue to build red especially on big guys

[next dawn]

It also cuz tank are nasty and chunk your armor

[subtle bluff]

Read the talent better.

Rav niche OP Showcase

[lone violet]

Any tips for hunting down hunters in DC?

[uncut yarrow]

Thats interesting lol

[glacial patio]

Can someone please explain ravenous to me? The div2 spreadsheet says it does 134k at lvl 40. Does this mean it does 134k when one trigger is pulled, between the 2 bullets? Or does it do 268k per trigger pull as it shoots two bullets at once?

[uncut yarrow]

So it buffs ALL your dmg to armor

[lone violet]

I need their mask in order to get the weekly weapons vendors drop

[subtle bluff]

Look up on YouTube

[subtle bluff]

sorry what?

[uncut yarrow]

Uh. Watch video. I dont remember lol. The only one that was a pain was the Salute. Bro just didn't spawn for a while

[next dawn]

Gun runner

[uncut yarrow]

The box with the thing and the thing

[lone violet]

Really wish there was data transfer

[next dawn]

Sadge

[uncut yarrow]

Same. Waiting for it to go to PC

[subtle bluff]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://rubenalamina.mx/the-division-weekly-vendor-reset/&ved=2ahUKEwjol7-B79yTAxXxHzQIHZXfOKcQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3_sBoFebRvWvCbHILFZasS

Scroll near the bottom

[next dawn]

If you hate reading here's a visual and audio version https://youtu.be/ghBYr6VFVbg?si=Z6pSXbMhnhY2kUjc

[lone violet]

Ah

[junior lagoon]

First time tried IronLumg and loved it

[boreal thistle]

No backfire, bloody knuckles, and precision Smart Cover?

[subtle bluff]

BF BK and Salvo now.

Salvo ramps BF pretty well.

[boreal thistle]

More fire rate is never bad 👍

[subtle bluff]

It's the better option over Foxes.

I'll use turmoil still but being able to control the HP bars because of the DPS is soo much better for carrying lovebirds.

[plush thistle]

super minor issue just me being me but is there anyway to adjust the darkness when i am using nemesis when holding down the trigger it seriously makes me squint to make sure im aiming at what i want on a moving target

[next dawn]

@subtle bluff can I have the fresh level 40 pdf ty

[subtle bluff]

I don't even have it saved

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[next dawn]

I'll ask doomz

[subtle bluff]

It's in the build hub

[solar sable]

who?

[next dawn]

Oo thanks

[subtle bluff]

I posted it btw above

[next dawn]

Not you

[lone glacier]

8 hours in Countdown does something to a mf

[next dawn]

12 hours of houndman named item farming for unicorn does more to a man

[fickle sparrow]

is ongoing directive ok to use in escalation tier 4 or 5? i know they start becoming immune to staus effects at some point im just wondering when that point is

[static kernel]

8 hours of... seriously?

[lone glacier]

yes.

[subtle bluff]

+6 I believe

[lone glacier]

Trying to get my Expertise up asap

[plush thistle]

well now is the time to do it i'd say

[next dawn]

The grind must go on

[lone glacier]

That's why Im pulling 10+ hours of Countdown a day till the Event is over

[plush thistle]

have a feeling it wont be long for another to happen thou it happened like 2 weeks ago as well but you do you lol

[plush thistle]

chow for my od build dont worry i saved it all but is it worth wasting a slot to boost my 58% chc to 60% or just do 12% more chd?

[subtle bluff]

Future reference above but yes 58 for more CHD is better

[pseudo belfry]

Question: when you lvl up a lvl30 weapon with a prototype core is it supposed to give you those roles? Or does it just apply the augment?

[lone glacier]

visual bug, restart the game to see actual rolls

[flint arch]

game loves to troll you

[lone glacier]

If rolls stay the same after restarting the game, congrats you won the lottery
If rolls aren't the same after restarting the game, congrats on joining the lottery of Prototypes

[pseudo belfry]

Aight bet
Brb with the news

[plush thistle]

gotcha and what modifiers er uh passive modifiers should i use for od i have a hard time understanding what half of these do the simple ones i can understand like swapping weapon handling to headshot damage etc. but like the pivot or invert ones make me confused no matter how many times i read em

[lone glacier]

For passives you could run HSD just because its extra damage

[subtle bluff]

I haven't mess with modifiers others can help you

[hexed steppe]

handling on OD with lmg probably be pretty decent too

[pseudo belfry]

Nah yeah.
I got health damage

[flint arch]

HSD with the modifiers turns every single fast firing weapon into Bighorn

[pseudo belfry]

Back to the grind

[junior lagoon]

Hey just wanted to tell you, i loved the iron lung build. Used it today at manning zoo legendary. Highest damage, second highest kills. Pushing enemies out of cover is huge

Thanks for telling us how good it was

[flint arch]

[lone glacier]

If you want HSD try these:

Convert 1 Offense, Compress Offense, Nullify @plush thistle

[hexed steppe]

i was about to copy paste what you sent me the other day XD

[lone glacier]

I made a tiny text document with most setups for modifiers because I was bored

[plush thistle]

let me check those out thanks bulls is amplify not worth i thought it was a freebe but maybe not

[lone glacier]

If you use the ones I sent you get 135% HSD, 10% Armor and even 20% Skill Damage

[plush thistle]

wont argue lol ill take ty ill have to save some up for nullify

[lone glacier]

Bighorn at max stacks is 150% HSD, so its basically a slightly worse Bighorn as a passive modifier

[plush thistle]

does nullify mean i should get shot a lot to get the +stacks?

[hexed steppe]

can use this as a discount version until you get nullify. same hsd iirc , but without the armor.

split (defense) - consume (offense) - convert 1 (offense) - 40:0:25

[lone glacier]

split utility and youd have HSD and Armor instead

[plush thistle]

so if i do split utility instead of split defense it'd be hsd and armor then add the other 2 until i get nullify then i swap to compress and nullify and keep convert 1?

[lone glacier]

yes

locals is basically the budget version of the one with nullify

Split Utility - Consume Offense - Convert 1 Offense till you have what you need for the other
then
Convert 1 Offense - Compress Offense - Nullify

Though keep in mind Nullify has to be the last modifier or else it won't work

[plush thistle]

wait order matters o.O?

[hexed steppe]

yes

[plush thistle]

ok ty i had no idea that mattered this looks to be like some super math

[hexed steppe]

stuff after nullify doesnt get reversed, does it?

[lone glacier]

Uuuh, no idea. But then nullify won't do anything I believe

[hexed steppe]

no like if keeping handling, doing compress, nullify , then say amplify or whatever brings up offense the best

idk myself, kinda spitballing

[lone glacier]

Let me try that

[plush thistle]

what is this iron lung build you mentioned to martinlongbow

[lone glacier]

Thats what you get with Compress Offense - Nullify - Amplify Offense

[flint arch]

35 20 20
52.5% Weapon Handling

if you just did Compress (Offense) Split (Offense) Nullify, your stacks would be 45 30 30, and you'd get 67.5% WH, 15% armor and 30% SD

[lone glacier]

Man if only we had more slots or just even more variety of modifiers, especially wildcard..

[hexed steppe]

yeah fr

[lone glacier]

Massive plis

[flint arch]

if you used Consume (Offense), you'd get 40 15 15, and you'd get
60% WH
7.5% armor
15% SD

so it's still not an improvement

[flint arch]

just iron lung on striker

[plush thistle]

full red striker with iron lung 3rd attribute chc?

[flint arch]

ye

[hexed steppe]

if you have a doc for these post it up as text and ill pin it, just edit in best combos as found

[lone glacier]

Will do. I'll probably finish it tomorrow

[hexed steppe]

lmk

[flint arch]

this game is a massive troll

[solar sable]

sir we dont speak taka taka

[flint arch]

blue core, chc, wh, chd

[hazy steeple]

Excuse me?

[worn imp]

My friend who is new to the game is wondering, as am I, how in the hell this guy can reach 58% Crit chance and also 140% crit damage with bluescreen and not running a ceska backpack. Timestamp is in link https://youtu.be/cktX7hKaQOA?si=FqCxVdlg2cSNw6_H&t=256

[elfin atlas]

Any good builds with the tinkerer floating around wanna try it out bc I just got it

[plush thistle]

well first one i can say is od is decent for me idk bout it being best but works

[lone glacier]

Ongoing Directive would be one

[fast cave]

Anyone know any good way to get better damage loot?

[lost wren]

gr9 frenzy or mk46 frenzy

[worn imp]

GR9 because of big mag memes

[plush thistle]

#td2-build-advice message

chow was kind enough to give me that build set up for OD

can change lmg's if you wish they just have to be high end of course not exotic

[plush thistle]

besides higher difficulty i'd say consistency as this game is a grind fest is pretty much all i can say

[plush thistle]

also https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs

if you want to customize build more to your own playstyle

[viral field]

Conflict build

[lost wren]

what tier of escalation is even worth actually going for

[lone glacier]

I mean up to you. Do the highest you can without struggling

and/or comfortably

[rich cosmos]

Currently id argue none unless you want the challenge of it

[flint arch]

imo until they make the prototype drop rates much larger than it is right now (it's currently still abysmal) and add TL, there's not much point in doing escalation

[lost wren]

right yeah
this update feels like such a waste

[ivory abyss]

Eh not a waste. It’s still good. Just more time for people like me who need to max out bench

And for the occasional prototype that does drop. Extra cores for the future

[uncut yarrow]

Damn 💀

[fast cave]

Is it as grindy as destiny 1?

[grizzled loom]

Tbh there not being targeted loot is what’s annoying me the most

[fast cave]

What is a good first raid?

I have the warlords NY dlc

[smoky latch]

DH is the shorter, easier one

[keen spear]

why is it only 3 pieces of hotshot for a hotdogs build? is the 4 piece not necessary im confused

[smoky latch]

3pcs plus Overdogs > 4pcs Hotshot

The real question is: why do you wanna snipe with a controller? I couldn't do that, lol

[subtle bluff]

Nothing else give the same stats as 3pc Hotshot.

[keen spear]

this is the answer i was looking for ty

[keen spear]

after as many years as ive been playing with one id like to think my aim is pretty good

[smoky latch]

Kudos

[keen spear]

now that i say that ill be missing every shot 🥲

[lone glacier]

Jinxed yourself

Damn didn't think this doc was taking this long to finish..

@broken edge elp

[smoky latch]

lmao @hexed steppe

[ivory abyss]

LOL

[shy willow]

people really should be enabling 2FA

[smoky latch]

Pointless with token stealers

[broken edge]

dirty bastards sabotaging my escalations by stealing my tokens

[broken garnet]

Is the lud a good secondary? Haven't really used it and kinda bored of the police m4 😭✌🏻

[solar sable]

smg9 with measured/unwavering

[smoky latch]

The talent prevents you from using skills. Not recommended for general builds

[solar sable]

m870/ACS12 with Brazen

[smoky latch]

The Sheriff is also a good secondary for several builds

[shy willow]

people sleep on it, hits like a freight train

although the reload is somewhat miserable

[vague zodiac]

What are the Weapon Stats required to play Incusion and Raids? Ie. Weapon damage, chc, chd, hsd etc

[solar sable]

depends on the role but DPS is always CHD CHC

[junior lagoon]

wiped in discovery mode Iron Horse AMA

couldnt discover it i guess

[smoky latch]

I would not recommend it as primary but it's for sure a good secondary

[shy willow]

you tend to with randoms

[junior lagoon]

we were 3 people. i was trying to water down the guy ala master anderson but the pump was not working again

and then he blew up the engine

what kind of discovery mode wipes you down before we discover anything

[smoky latch]

lol

[shy willow]

the funny thing is

i would explain the encounter to you but on discovery its different so i dont know lmao

but yeah now you see why discovery is pretty much a cruel joke

[junior lagoon]

i finished the discovery mode dark hours so cleared journey 8. not touching raids for a while

also wiped multiple times in incursion btw

[shy willow]

its a lot easier than most would have you believe

[last schooner]

core builds - why would anyone use the backpack instead of memento?

[smoky latch]

Maybe to free up an exotic slot. Only thing I can think of

[last schooner]

trying to figure out how to use this set...with all skill smg or chc?

[smoky latch]

Idk I wouldn't use it in PvE

[shy willow]

it is however extremely busted in pvp

[plush thistle]

i'd say more so in a way once you get a build situated and or have a team that is willing to go ham for at least 100 hours you can get pretty far farming but once you reach end game then it becomes an endless grind especially after this update

[shy willow]

its only as grindy as you choose to make it tbh

[violet juniper]

I saw some mfer with 2.2 million armour with like 4 red cores

[shy willow]

you can have an endgame ready build farming countdown in about an hour

[obsidian lava]

Just crafted this. Sounds like unlimited machine gun, lol

[last schooner]

Just use Bullet King

[rich cosmos]

Bullet snore

[merry stone]

supression kills lmgs in div 2 imo, this aint bf where its actually a useful mechanic

[rich cosmos]

I think having a penetration system would fix it

[timid token]

Any st Elmo build ?

[lone glacier]

Striker

[flint arch]

Struggle

[lone glacier]

Strugker

[flint arch]

AlphaBridge

Ask not what your build can do for your gun, but what your gun can do for your build.

[inland hound]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[smoky latch]

That's deep 🙂‍↕️

[flint arch]

idk im just going insane from grinding houndsman bounties over and over

[shy willow]

stricker bill best

[flint arch]

but imo except in very specific cases (pesti), the build comes before the gun

[timid token]

So rly I just use striker dam

[flint arch]

ye

[timid token]

Even tho I’m getting bored of striker 😂

[smoky latch]

Tipping Scales, Negotiator's Dilemma are great DPS alternatives

Ongoing Directive is also nice, less DPS but great DPS support

[ember shadow]

Does anyone have a pure raw dps build that will melt enemies

[flint arch]

Striker

[lone glacier]

Striker

[timid token]

😂

[smoky latch]

Suh triker's

[flint arch]

Btriker's Sattlegear

[ember shadow]

Striker just pure striker or mixed with things with that gun ans shit

[flint arch]

Read the Striker guide

[junior lagoon]

They should ban 4 piece of striker.
Only 3 allowed

[lone glacier]

Then Ill just run NBB

[junior lagoon]

Then ninja backpack would rule the world

[flint arch]

I hate both of you

[lone glacier]

Maybe we'll get the next meta DPS build with the Central Park DLC

[flint arch]

I like how the 3 top gear sets for DPS (no I am not counting red Heartbreaker shut up) are just Striker, Striker but quirky, and Striker but quirkier

[lone glacier]

Give us a skills based DPS meta for once

[flint arch]

[lone glacier]

"What flavour of Strikes would you like to have today, sir?

Striker Neat, Striker Stirred or Striker Shaken?"

[soft crane]

Striker Hazpro?
Stackless Striker?

[ember shadow]

lol is my build good tho

[soft crane]

Lemme see

[ember shadow]

I got 4 pieces striker and 2 until allot all focused on crit chance same damage paired with lexigtion?????( I had to wait text again cuz slow mode

[soft crane]

just show us the screenshot

[ember shadow]

Give me a sec

[flint arch]

I like my Striker with thorns

[lone glacier]

What's next? Full Blue Striker with Catharsis?

[flint arch]

I am suing you for causing emotional distress

[gaunt chasm]

[lone glacier]

At least its not NBB..

[flint arch]

I am suing you for assault and battery

[lone glacier]

You'll be hearing from my lawyer

[honest moss]

I have yoinked this image. Thanks

Flatline over killer in heartbreaker?

[flint arch]

yes

[lone glacier]

Kingbreaker or w/e with Perfect Flatline works too

[honest moss]

Thanks

[flint arch]

kingbreaker is kinda an ass AR

[faint nebula]

well its tankier than my striker version... not sure it packs enough punch yet

[flint arch]

not really, at least with striker it gives you a damage amp

[lone glacier]

True too

[soft crane]

Damn it so close...

[lone glacier]

No HSD, no unicorn

[soft crane]

I need CHC, CHD, and Weapon Handling right?

[lone glacier]

I mean HSD just means more damage

Unless it can't roll HSD which Im not sure about

[lone violet]

so is core strengh worth using?

[flint arch]

pretty sure it can't

[lone glacier]

smh another exotic ruined

[soft crane]

yeah it cant.

[lone glacier]

brother

[smoky latch]

No HSD and no Health AFAIK

[lone glacier]

shame. shame

Hope the doc won't be too big about the seasonal modifier

[fresh nest]

Any good ways to spread status effects?

[pastel crane]

Okay, so what's the play for Core Strength?

Or is it a case of "It's a hybrid, do whatever you want with it"?

[plush thistle]

eclipse protocol

[ivory abyss]

there is no pve play for it, pvp it can work

[pastel crane]

You sure?

[ivory abyss]

yup

[elfin atlas]

Who’s gotta sheriff build

[smoky latch]

Hardly anyone becaues it doesn't make for a good primary. It's a solid secondary in DPS builds tho

[elfin atlas]

Thats what I’m realizing lol I can’t find a build for it where I’m enjoying it

[livid sorrel]

at most it's a tank that doesn't shoot nerf darts

[faint nebula]

this may be more armor than i need...

[smoky latch]

What difficulty do you play on?

[pastel crane]

Okay, fine.

You've made your point.

I won't use Core Strength

[faint nebula]

heroic usually

[smoky latch]

Solo?

[faint nebula]

sometimes

maybe ill swap out momento for something else...

i dont really need crit since backfire puts me at like 300% crtd

[smoky latch]

Yeah I was gonna suggest to swap out Memento in group play

[faint nebula]

made solo a breeze though lol.

[smoky latch]

Not sure what build you run with it tho

Yeah for solo def. great

[faint nebula]

trying this out. 91% hazard protection with modifiers running

[lunar tiger]

Can anyone share a hotshot build for heroic checkpoint shd farming? Found one using 2 piece habsburg with double red attributes which is days of farming with talent requirements

[timid token]

Is this good inf

[flint arch]

pretty much tbh

[smoky latch]

So, very solid. BUT

[faint nebula]

thinking of swapping momento for ninjabike maybe... drop a piece of corestrength. or run overdogs

[smoky latch]

If you decide you run that LMG you have to make sure to squeeze every bullet out of each magazine and hit NPCs. Otherwise this LMG is a waste due to its talent

[red pier]

if it was skill tier instead of weapon damage, it will be perfect for skill builds

[timid token]

So I should not use that lmg ?

[smoky latch]

Honestly I prefer regular Measured over the perfect version

[timid token]

Is that gun

[smoky latch]

The difference of -5% WD for the top half of the magazine is really noticeable. To me, the 8% increase of the bottom half from the perfect version isnt that worth it because it's situational

[timid token]

Oh it a magazine mb

I don’t have measured

[last schooner]

ah so gear shift is mid

I thought so, I was enjoying the RoF but felt dmg was crap

[smoky latch]

Just put it on a regular MK46

[faint nebula]

ninja bag with picaros... its an option

[smoky latch]

PvP, ya. PvE, just nope

[plush thistle]

sorry i have to ask is there any other combo that gives more than 117% head shot damage for passive modifiers?

[timid token]

Dang 🙁

[faint nebula]

how would you run it inf?

[smoky latch]

Farm for one 😉

[ivory abyss]

yup i think its 135%

[timid token]

[plush thistle]

do you know what it is?

[smoky latch]

The build or the SMG?

@flint arch knows. 145% IIRC

[faint nebula]

that build. i mean for solo heroic it was pretty decent.

[flint arch]

wdym

[ivory abyss]

covert 1 offense/saturate utility/invert offense

[smoky latch]

Max HSD modifier combo they ask for

[faint nebula]

a bit light on damage. but trying to keep my hazard protection up for the guns bleed on me

[smoky latch]

I would not run that build in PvE under any cirumstances. For PvP however it's dope

For Backfire PvE either Striker's Overdogs or CoCo Overdogs in group play

[cunning yarrow]

Anyone here has a decent skill build who can share. That side of the build caught my attention. (mostly PVE)

[faint nebula]

i generally run that for pve. its squishy but it hits hard

[smoky latch]

Oh 135% indeed

[flint arch]

cheaper version (you can choose to sacrifice defense instead by picking Saturate (Defense))

[smoky latch]

I thought I read 145% somewhere, my bad

[timid token]

Where do they farm again ?

[smoky latch]

Wherever you can set TL

[timid token]

Can I farm one from countdown. ?

[smoky latch]

Yes, you can

[timid token]

Ah i see it thx

[plush thistle]

i copied and for some reason its 117% i'm using hot shot 4 piece is my gear an issue?

[flint arch]

the order of the modifiers matter

[plush thistle]

is this correct?

just realized i didnt scroll down compress offensive, convert 1 offensive, nullify

does the watch play an effect in this?

[livid sorrel]

level up your active modifiers, they give 4 more each

[plush thistle]

ooh i didnt think of that

it says its level 5 already

[quiet plinth]

try a new all red build
immediately get hit with my game freezing every few seconds which gets me killed constantly
thank you very cool

[plush thistle]

hmm idk what i dont have the only thing i can think of is the watch as its 32/50 on headshot damage

[plush thistle]

ty for this though it for sure helps me with my limited knowledge

[flint arch]

you need to level up all 3 of them for max benefit

[plush thistle]

ooh ok ty

last question about the modifiers how do i get utility/defense stacks?

like do i have to equip a passive defense and utility to get stacks or is simply using turrets or shields work for say defense?

[subtle bluff]

anyone have the new named holster?

[flint arch]

chow asking questions

[solar sable]

you dont see it everyday

[plush thistle]

are you talking about bull dog?

that was new but idk if thats the only new one around

[solar bison]

What's a good weapon to compliment pestilence here?

[solar sable]

OH COMPLIMENT

[wet wren]

bros got the

but not the

[coral reef]

Is there a cap/soft cap for healing power? Please

[subtle bluff]

No. Just overhealing.

[snow forge]

Anyone got any suggestions for where to farm and what build to go for if I dont have B4B dlc?

[solar sable]

BfB isnt needed for anything, read this Lvl40 Starters Guide

[snow forge]

no exclusive loot to it?

[solar sable]

not really, no

[snow forge]

oh, ok, got the game with WLNY a few years ago, been a player of the other D2 for years, thats a breath of fresh air

[dreamy valve]

Which new named weapons do you guys like

trader
first bloom
the archivist
interchange
the headline grabber

[merry stone]

deconing proto gear drops the core?

[solar sable]

proto cores yeah

[merry stone]

that means escalation will be superior method for farming than incursion/raids for proto core right

[shy willow]

Yes and no

Incursions and raids give you guaranteed drops but they're limited, escalation is however much you want based on rng

[plush thistle]

could i have an exclipse build recommendation please idc if its healing, turret, killing, hybrid whatever works whatever you liked the most

[flint arch]

eclipse protocol guide

[plush thistle]

thanks a ton

[solar sable]

EP is so fun

[plush thistle]

sweet i thought so it'd be mostly status effects was saving a few of these in hopes it'd work out now question about at the bottom i know what birdies is but do any of those 3 lose functionality or have an alternative i should say for when i need to swap it or is it just better to only do the swap with courier build?

[summer totem]

Eagle bearer or st elmo for solo retaliation

[flint arch]

neither. iron lung ftw

[merry stone]

real??

[solar sable]

yeah, its amazing

[hexed steppe]

amazing component 👀

[solar sable]

this guy

[flint arch]

i do not believe in the lies from a mortargandist

[merry stone]

interesting, any special build for iron lung or striker good enough

[solar sable]

that and TS

[flint arch]

just put it on striker

[hexed steppe]

kidding ofc, iron lung is solid

solid component

[solar sable]

LMFAO

[summer totem]

I cant tell if these guys are being sarcastic or not

[hexed steppe]

-# ill see myself out

[flint arch]

time to break into the msv offices and decrease mortar base damage by 100%

[hexed steppe]

-# banned

[flint arch]

[merry stone]

btw whats the meta augment for offensive builds on the weapon??

[fringe ravine]

Anyone found the right mix of gear for core set ?

[summer totem]

Heartbreaker or striker for eagle bearer?

[broken delta]

the most fun / viable on end game (for me) was with skill tier

with ninja backpack

consistent 400k damage with capacitor and 100k to 200k on offecive skills drone / turret

but this gear set is the jack of all trades, master of none dont expect to be tank or huge dps

[buoyant mulch]

ive been doing really well with this

picaro holster and unit alloys mask for the yellows

[left hinge]

Anyone can rec me a sniper build?

[lone glacier]

Hotshot, built around oneshotting

[broken delta]

the +1 skill tier from the holster counts to the CS ?

i think it only counter the if its on the core part of the gear

[buoyant mulch]

yeah im pretty sure, you can have 3 skill tier if you put a yellow on picaro holster but i didn't for armor

[keen eagle]

Hi guys whats better for pure turret drone skill build ? Refractor , or core strength ? , or concetrated company . Thats my old skill build before l quit

[lone glacier]

Refactor.

[keen eagle]

is waveform still good? Like how should the build look? , kinda lost with how skill build look nowdays. If you have a good example would like to see one .

[lone glacier]

Theres a build in the pinned Spreadsheet for Refactor. I'd start there

[keen eagle]

The big spread shet?

[lone glacier]

Indeed

Also what Black Reaper posted works too

[keen eagle]

Oh thats cool , so waveform by the looks is outdated . If l run any solo build should momento be the exotic always?

[lone glacier]

Not always. Its a good solo option. Most DPS builds use Overdogs

[keen eagle]

Thanks guys

[left hinge]

Which one is it?

[lone glacier]

Let me try to find it for you

[buoyant mulch]

hotdogs is a genius name

[lone glacier]

For snipers you could also use Nemesis, Mantis, Shroud

[plush thistle]

white death, sr-1, model 700 for high end and nemesis, shroud, or mantis for exotic

[noble pelican]

Just gonna link this next time someone thinks the dummy shows correct numbers.

[plush thistle]

lol

[flint arch]

no because you literally can't even equip momento

[left hinge]

Thanks

Any marksman or rifle will do for a sniper build right? Or need a specific?

[lone glacier]

White Death would be best for the high HSD

[left hinge]

What about diamondback?

[woeful forge]

@livid sorrel crit chance for 3rd attrib?

[livid sorrel]

either crit stat works depending on your needs

[woeful forge]

idk in what build i could fit it in other than a rifle build

[soft crane]

Anything really. DTOOC seems to be that important apparently.

[woeful chasm]

Speaking of rifle builds. Any nice tinkerer rifle builds in someones secret stash?

[soft crane]

MMR or just rifle?

[woeful forge]

chainkiller is mainly for marksman rifle builds right?

[woeful chasm]

Rifles

[woeful forge]

waiting on invaded grand washington to finally get nemesis blueprint and see a funny dmg number with perfect headhunter

[soft crane]

I use Overdogs

[subtle bluff]

Any one shot build that focuses around HS

[subtle bluff]

Only if you don't have it. Once you have it's not that important.

[lone glacier]

Well.. time to finish the doc

Seasonal Modifier one, with combos on how to get highest HSD, PFE etc

[subtle bluff]

ah

[fair dragon]

Eh? We already have it

[lone glacier]

Where? Its not pinned in the discord.

[fair dragon]

Someone else already did it

[lone glacier]

That's missing a lot of combinations.

[hazy steeple]

We don't tend to pin the post-it notes version of things.

otherwise the build spreadsheet would just be "use striker, idk".

[strong cave]

But that's what the community is here for lol, "just use striker"

[flint arch]

80% of the questions here can be answered with "Just use Striker"

[grim bluff]

https://billothewild.github.io/TheDivision/ this is super super helpful, really enjoying Saturate Offence Split Defence Converge to get a really powerful Optimize since it relies on offence for cooldown, defence for overcharge duration and utility for CDR

[lone glacier]

"What flavour of Strikes would you like to have today, sir?

Striker Neat, Striker Stirred or Striker Shaken?"

In a nutshell.

[strong cave]

The other 20% is Headhunter

[hazy steeple]

19%.
the final 1% is quickstep bounty requests.

[flint arch]

😂

[strong cave]

You got yourself a deal!

[loud sleet]

I would still love to get that pistol but well I ain't gonna beg for it as maybe someday I get it with just good karma gain

[flint arch]

Don't forget the "NBB sucks"

[strong cave]

Want it right now? Fixing to jump on

[lone glacier]

corrupt don't forget full blue catharsis striker

[flint arch]

And arguing over how many blue cores to put on Striker

[hazy steeple]

Ya know, canonically Agents go take scraps and make them into builds.
So you leeching off someone else's Houndsman Bounty is lore accurate.

[strong cave]

7 or nothing, kinda like the Nerf motto

[loud sleet]

Sorry man but can't Im at work and I'll be out in like 4 hours

And don't worry I will maybe get it when the game sees that I have nothing else to gain

[strong cave]

Funny enough you get back from work the moment I GO to work

[lone glacier]

Honestly, you should take Pointman's offer as you didn't technically beg for it

[strong cave]

Keep in touch, I can easily get you that pistol

[loud sleet]

Daymn but well thanks for the offer but I really don't want to leach on you for it.

But if you insist to help me you can dm me or something but like I said I ain't gonna leach on you just to make my life better

[strong cave]

I refuse to leave an agent behind bc honestly I'm tired of being the only one targeted for making it to the next room first

You're getting that damn pistol.

Sonic speed 🙏

[grim bluff]

No child left behind

[loud sleet]

Yes I'm an 25 year old man child and I say that happily

[strong cave]

23 here, Jumpman year, still have my child moments

[loud sleet]

Thank you you are a real one, well as you seem to be the good Samaritan that I always try to be I'm not going to stop you.

So well if we are in-game at the same time someday we can do it but I will try to find a way to give something back I can't takesuch a dream for free

[grim bluff]

You just gotta be 20% nicer to him in return

[loud sleet]

Don't worry I'm nice to everyone, funnily i help people who have just gotten to lvl40 so they can get some good gear

Usually I carry them in legendary or heroic basically anywhere they want just because I have done everything I can for my self

[summer totem]

Can you carry me in legendary 👉👈

[loud sleet]

We can always try someday currently at work but I should be able to help you with one of my buddies he's the biggest damage guy but I'm the pocket healer so we should be able to help ❤️

[summer totem]

Ok ok, i just need help for my journey 8 quests

[loud sleet]

Then we are in the same boat as those are annoying

[soft crane]

I got Striker Hazpro and the Stackless Striker.

[grim bluff]

Can you teach me to do legendary missions? I don't wanna get carried lol

[soft crane]

Basically just dont run around on your own. Teamwork is needed than ever.

[loud sleet]

Well this is kinda the wrong chat but being too aggressive is the biggest problem people do

[grim bluff]

Lets switch channels then?

[loud sleet]

Ping me there

[subtle bluff]

Look up toasty on YouTube he has really good guides on it.

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough I do that all the time but I do know what I am doing.

[livid sorrel]

super helpful but that font ugh

[grim bluff]

Yeah it's a bit too much style over user experience

[noble pelican]

TIL shields can reach some.. questionable numbers.

2x Foundry + 3x CS + Ninjaback, for the curious.
You get the 50% shield health, 1% armor regen, close to 120% all weapon bonus still, but also stuff like 500% haste and a crapton of skill health/regen.

Crusader variant still has ~10m health as well.

[iron topaz]

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a build for the chatterbox. Do you have a good one you can recommend? I'm new to the game and I'm not sure what the parts are. I'd appreciate a photo of the build if possible. Thanks.

[strong cave]

Word of advice from Pointman:

I'd look into using Vanguard if you're going to be doing funny things with shields. If you make a proper build with it, you can make shields and armor builds worthwhile to run for the team. Especially since one of the bonus perks of Vanguard is 5 seconds of shield invulnerability

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, is +30% weapon damage on Agitator exotic assault riffle an multiplier or normal weapon damage?

Perturb
While this weapon is holstered, generate 50% less Threat when shooting. Keeping this weapon holstered for 10s will Prime it.

While primed, swapping to this weapon grants +25% Rate of Fire, +30% Weapon Damage and you generate 100% more Threat when Shooting for 20s.

Swapping from this weapon before the timer ends removes the bonuses.

[strong cave]

It just adds more towards your weapon damage (your AR will hit slightly harder)

[eager cloak]

Alright, this seems bad...
I heard Sheriff's +35% weapon damage is a multiplier, so I thought this one is a multiplier too.

[livid sorrel]

Striker's works well enough

[strong cave]

Agitator is absolutely goated. Definitely don't sleep on it

The less threat is already incredibly strong. Swapping to it for the boosted damage and burst definitely helps kill enemies quicker. It's like measured but without the loss of weapon damage

[iron topaz]

Is This good?

[strong cave]

Pair it with a decoy and it's proper broken

[noble pelican]

Curious, is there anything that would make a reflect shield build work at being supportive at the same time?

I'd love for the chip damage from deflector to be healed by foundry, triggering something similar to FI.. but that would be too good. :p

[livid sorrel]

i'd swap out the chest for equalizer and keep the cores red

[iron topaz]

Ok thank you😊

[eager cloak]

I've been running prototype Cloak in my setup, I haven't saw a very noticeable changes in my threat generation in group play, I'm considering switching to Fox's Prayer...
So how is the experience pairing Agitator with Cloak?

[subtle bluff]

We can go higher... But what's funnier is how quickly this still can be destroyed.

[subtle bluff]

If you're doing good dmg you will make threat no matter what.

[noble pelican]

It definitely feels awful being able to tank a heavy gunner + two warhounds on legendary.. just for something else to bomb me for 50% of it's value.

Afaik a ton of modifiers also don't apply to the shield, but only your armor.

[subtle bluff]

If you're in a ok group it's not too bad but once you get someone that knows what there doing you won't be able to hold any agro.

How many times I've had tanks get in front of me where I can't shoot the thing I want reallly gets to me.

[noble pelican]

I'm just opting for Mosquito in master/legendary content, while going behind enemies (opening up their back for the team) if I'm playing a wall; No point in going for a ever so slightly higher dmg option over forced aggro.

[subtle bluff]

I've seen tanks try this too. Since most of the time I'm on ND I make a ton of threat so they end up only having a lil to do with them.

Only tanks that do good is support tanks.

This is jsut with someone that KWTD within harder content.

[strong cave]

Yeah as chow said, you'll generate threat regardless. Cloak is kind of a useless pair of kneepads as threat is generated a few ways in division 2

You'd be better off sticking with Ceska + ODogs or Equalizer + ODogs and running agitator with a decoy

[noble pelican]

Yeah I'm currently trying to see how "supportive" i can get, without dropping the ability to just.. not go down, even if I mess up.

Being able to pick up stuff while a heavy shoots at you, without even having your shield out is a pretty decent thing.

[strong cave]

Oh, he's running the car door build?

[strong cave]

You should let me crash your group with Pointman 🙏

[noble pelican]

Currently on either;

• 3x Foundry + Ninjaback + Punch Drunk (which allows you to just facetank master level stationary MG bosses and the like still)
• 4x CS + Catharsis + Salvo (drastically more damage for stuff like solo heroic retal, less fool proof)

Ironically I have the same issue; I go up to enemies and instead of just shooting the enemy.. people yeet me past the enemy by running into me, despite already being in their face and not directly in LoS lol

[subtle bluff]

I've had a few good support tanks here and there. The best is 6 skill tier tank still.

[noble pelican]

I wish we'd have a "surviability" test area as well..

[summer totem]

Question about the expertise system how much max % bonus damage can you get from upgrading your weapon

[quasi juniper]

Tryna do something with merciless but I don’t know what gear and brand sets to use. Any tips?

[subtle bluff]

IMO there are 2 type of tanks:

• A support tank that if tough but helps by giving buff out and able to affect the battlefield in more than one way.
• A selfish tank that is built to just live and run around doing w/e they can.

[subtle bluff]

Exp max at 30. This % just adds on to your WD. Like 2 red cores in a sense.

[subtle bluff]

CoCo has the best mix for it. I can't spell out the gearset for it.

[summer totem]

Neat, no wonder i see youtubers use 2 armor cores on striker builds and still deal ton of damage

[subtle bluff]

I meta is we just use all red and meta things quicker

[surreal elk]

is scorpio any good?

[soft crane]

Billions must build stacks

[subtle bluff]

YouTuber aren't more for making content vs making helpful things.

[eager cloak]

Entropy is flat health increase, it doesn't jive with +% health.

[soft crane]

For certain builds yes. Like crowd control and support healer.

[subtle bluff]

It's mainly for support.

[surreal elk]

for FI and meassure?

[eager cloak]

But it does interact with total armor.

[subtle bluff]

This is very low in value.

[soft crane]

For future initiative yes and eclipse protocol.

Idk what meassured assembly do.

[subtle bluff]

Support builds....

[summer totem]

Is this really an eagle bearer skin? Looks like that 1 trash sniper exotic

[soft crane]

Yes

Looks goofy i know.

[strong cave]

Would you consider a 2m armor tank with Vanguard + Galvanized selfish?

If using Scorpio and banshee pulse effectively on enemy spawns

[subtle bluff]

No because your build to help and buff.

[soft crane]

How tank even works outside wooden horse raid?

[strong cave]

👀 could I convince you to try it

[subtle bluff]

I've tank long time ago I know how to doit

I'll still tech tank instead going full support tank these days

[summer totem]

Does heartbreaker synergize well with eagle bearer?

[strong cave]

I like the skin but they butchered it with the stock and the foregrip. If they made it a barebasic foregrip like Elmo's has and left the stock plain, I genuinely would've bought it

[subtle bluff]

Not really.

[mild dawn]

they walk in front of the dps players, get them killed with their zdps griefing and then pivot into being a walking zero range revive hive

[strong cave]

It does, sorta. You have to get stacks with ACS 12 using some sort of pulse (in my case, Banshee from Gunner), then swap over to EB. Problem is, god forbid your skills are disrupted and the target you're shooting doesn't have a head

[summer totem]

Should i stick to strikers?

[subtle bluff]

EB isn't that good. It's very mid.

[strong cave]

Yeah other guns have better usage. EB you'd really only use in solos or in duos

[noble pelican]

Can't walk in front of the dps, if another dps already pushed them aside and walked in front of them..
Which is every single god damn round of countdown for me.

[summer totem]

Idk, it fits my playstyle better than st elmo at least

Since i mostly play solo

[strong cave]

OH btw, forgot to return back with Glass Cannon + EB info:

It's a bad combo. Horrible. Glass ends up nerfing EB's damage reduction talent if you don't manage to snag at least 2 quick kills. You're better off using Obliterate in this case. It's funny, usually glass is the winner

[subtle bluff]

Elmo isn't anything special either especially in solo.

[summer totem]

The tenacity doing wonders in situations where i usually die if i play normally

[mild dawn]

countdowns a 8 man clusterfu- nzone, thats kind of given

[strong cave]

I'd say you're setting yourself up for bad habits. Chow would know with Exodus

[grim bluff]

That sounds like it's giving you bad habits

[summer totem]

In any case i mostly like EB cuz of the design lmao

[grim bluff]

lol yeah i'm trying to wean myself off exodus but they're so helpful where i suck

[summer totem]

Touche

[subtle bluff]

TBH tanking in CD is unneeded. Why blue OD exists.

[summer totem]

I do play differently in a team, mostly utility tho

[subtle bluff]

SHADOW CLONE JUSTU

[mild dawn]

i play hazpro eclipse when i want to really carry the noobs

[subtle bluff]

exo glove in solo is a good survivalist piece.

[grim bluff]

Smoke Bombs just feel cool too hah

[subtle bluff]

I just melt everything.

[grim bluff]

Where's my smoke bomb grenade... c'mon

[floral flare]

what augment is best on armour?

[subtle bluff]

When you can solo a heroic CD... CD with people is..

[soft crane]

best I can do is Exodus glove

[summer totem]

God i need friends to play this game

Specifically people from SEA cuz damn

[subtle bluff]

Use the other public disocrd to find LFG.

[grim bluff]

yeh that's whati'm referring to, would be fun to have it independent of the item, but it'd never happen

[subtle bluff]

When I use in group I normally drop a decoy and yell shadow clone justu

[grim bluff]

gender swapped decoy

[summer totem]

Is it possible to solo legendary and raids?

[subtle bluff]

Leggo yes.
Raids no.

[summer totem]

Oh yeah last question, quickest way to get mats for expertise donation?

[soft crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elzNtp-UI6o&t=3522s

Guy who did it is same nationality as I'am.

Played with him a couple of times.

[soft crane]

Targeted loot

[strong cave]

I've been crutching nimble holster myself

[summer totem]

Do i get more points from the actual equipments than prints or whatever its called?

[strong cave]

Exodus smoke screen just gets in the way sometimes

[soft crane]

more points from actual equipments yeah

[summer totem]

The one you get from deconstructing mods

[strong cave]

Alright Kaisen, calm down now

Wouldn't want you to Naruto run from their bullets

[subtle bluff]

That is not solo'ing the raid.

[soft crane]

ah, i forgot about that

:3

[subtle bluff]

What a clickbait not mentioning it.

This is doable.

[noble pelican]

"Guy" is girl lol

[summer totem]

Is there a way to find players in dark zone? Been seeing videos where dark zone players are going at it.

[subtle bluff]

You cannot solo raids because you need more than one person to do things.

[soft crane]

yeah its a common joke

[summer totem]

But when i do it, the DZ is deserted af

[strong cave]

Yeah most wouldn't count Discovery as a true raid clear. It removed most mechanics

[strong cave]

What's your SHD? If you're not above 1k, you won't find any pvp

[noble pelican]

I'd have Regulus by now, if i could..

[subtle bluff]

It take 2 weeks to get regulus. It's not hard.

[strong cave]

You can however matchmake for dark zone. It might pair you with high level players. Be warned, they'll have ultra min maxed builds or cheating in the 1k bracket

[summer totem]

There are also cheaters in this game?

[noble pelican]

Oh my main issue isn't the difficulty, but the "Actually look for a group that helps people get it, without being the average Discord teenager voice call" aspect.

I've tried a few times and most other raids were fine; Iron Horse for some reason didn't fit yet lol

[strong cave]

Yes, big-time. Pvp has a massive cheating problem right now . The problem starts as soon as you hit 1k or queue for conflict

There is literally no anti cheat, it's been disabled for 3 years now. The same cheaters are STILL playing to this day

[subtle bluff]

Go the public discord and get into raid group there.

Raiding without comms isn't gonna be good.

Hell I just said ok I'll DH made the room I was chill in renamed DH. 5 mins later full raid group.

[summer totem]

How long did it take you guys to reach the "endgame" contents

[strong cave]

In GCRock you won't find a bunch of kids. Mainly just a bunch of non-native English speakers yelling at you in broken English to "not shoot Elmo's with boss"

[subtle bluff]

There are more raider in GC. But you can find some of them in TheDivision still.

[strong cave]

My girlfriend did it within a month, hit 1k and already has 12 builds set up to go

[noble pelican]

I'm fine with coms; I'm not fine with spending the entire time in a voice call with people acting like they're 16, while flaming people they apparently play with every day.

Likely gonna check GC, however.

[summer totem]

In a month?

[strong cave]

Yes

[summer totem]

Can i be your girlfriend for a month so i can reach 1k in a month too

[strong cave]

I'm slowly working on helping her get her expertise up

[subtle bluff]

Dunno what you're joining then. If you just join to join and check the gorup or the raid lead to let them know it's your FTC ya you'll have issues.

[summer totem]

Been playing for a month but im still shd 450

[strong cave]

Sadly, the methods we used to boost her to 1k quickly have been patched. We abused XP events hard

[obsidian bronze]

Acs12 with dttooc and can change talent or lefty with also dttooc?

[subtle bluff]

I wish I could stay 600 SHD

Sleeper Agent the whole time.

[soft crane]

Abused? Isnt it just, event with x5 exp multiplier for 1000 levels?

[summer totem]

When's the next XP event even, haven't experienced it in once in my playtime (only played for a month and a half)

[strong cave]

It's heavily abused if you can gain 10 levels every 3 minutes

[subtle bluff]

What's the exact qusetion?

[obsidian bronze]

Which one is better to use

[subtle bluff]

Depends what you're using it for and the content.

[soft crane]

Oh, is it the elite black tusk convoy?

[obsidian bronze]

Primarily as a primer

[subtle bluff]

No. We cannot talk about that stuff here

[strong cave]

Nope lol. They patched national bond

[noble pelican]

You can abuse a lot of stuff with global events and the like for even more.
10 levels in 3 minutes isn't just "i farmed a lot" :P

[soft crane]

ah ok

[summer totem]

Someone teach me these abuse

[subtle bluff]

UH?!

[strong cave]

Patched. They removed it. Happened this season with the new classifieds

[obsidian bronze]

A primer a weapon used for example to build stacks of striker or heartbreaker fast

[subtle bluff]

Also we don't talk about this stuff here. It's against the rules.

[strong cave]

Isn't to say national bond isn't still good, you just need an XP event active to still use it

[subtle bluff]

You do not need acs12 for striker.

[obsidian bronze]

No but for example heartbreaker stacks or striker stacks if your primary isnt a high rof

[subtle bluff]

HB depending on what you want to do with it. Lefty with Double RoF will help you stack the faster and ACS12 with brazen will do the best DPS for acs12.

[summer totem]

What would you suggest for secondary

[strong cave]

Meh, it's only exploits that are heavily against the rules. Using national bond wasn't really an exploit or a glitch, it was just a simple design flaw. If it was an exploit they definitely would've reset a ton of people as well as probably a temp ban

[subtle bluff]

SMG9 w/Unweavering

[summer totem]

I love this guy

[strong cave]

People said the same thing about the crafting bug, never saw bans from that. Tinkerer/Tempest exploit DEFINITELY against the rules at the time

[subtle bluff]

It was where the conversation maybe going to.

Also semi off topic.... meh

[strong cave]

Nah, if it was going straight to exploits, smart cover and birdies backpack would've been brought up lol

[strong cave]

I'd suggest MG5 fast hands tbh

[summer totem]

Streamline?

[strong cave]

Depends on what your main gun is. I myself have been rocking Iron Lung + Tactical Mk16 with measured

[subtle bluff]

or the new stuff

[subtle bluff]

Never streamline. Due to it's uptime.

[strong cave]

Agitator I've been running with MG5 fast hands. Love that combo

[summer totem]

What does that mean

[grim bluff]

Rock and Roll is also an option

[subtle bluff]

I mean the talent.

[strong cave]

Streamline relies on 0 skills cooldown. Skills are strong in certain cases

[subtle bluff]

Only needed for stacking with striker chest.

[strong cave]

Oh, you mean Back and Forth

I'll have to look into that honestly

[summer totem]

What smg would you suggest specifically

[strong cave]

SMG-9 or Tac Vector

[subtle bluff]

☝️

[subtle bluff]

Look the post above this.

[strong cave]

Chow, add in Stack broker with ROF/fast hands. I myself have one. It's nuts

[summer totem]

Oh im in luck then

[subtle bluff]

You can't get RoF and Fast Hands

[summer totem]

Already have good max rolls on them

[strong cave]

You can 👀 I have one

[subtle bluff]

How...

[flint arch]

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't drop with both DTTooC and Slege?

But also shows how much I don't farm during the seasonal stuff

[strong cave]

Stretch goals event dropped with differing talents on stack broker. One of my clan members dropped it with fast hands. It allowed me to roll ROF on it. I have the rarest ACS12

@flint arch here has seen it. It's wild

[flint arch]

i have not seen it

[strong cave]

I thought you did??? Unless I showed JT native 💀

[subtle bluff]

idk if I really care about Fast Hand on Broker. I've been using for the past few months on incursion. I which back to RnR.

[strong cave]

Screw it, I'm gonna prove it's real. Give me a few moments

[flint arch]

anyway is this a good solo t10 escalation build guys

[subtle bluff]

go away

[flint arch]

you are toxic :(

[strong cave]

Not expertise 30, pure shit

[subtle bluff]

I need sleep

[strong cave]

You need stack broker fast hands + ROF

[subtle bluff]

Chow no sleep no good for others

[flint arch]

Also I just noticed the Investor mask is just the CS mask but with RGB lights

[grim bluff]

Gamer mask

[lament reef]

why have people settled on t5 farming

is it like challenging vs heroic countdown beyond that point

[lone glacier]

full blue striker with catharsis would be better

[flint arch]

probably lmao

[soft crane]

no God please no, I've seen enough low players with Core Strength gears today

and i dont even know why they're using it

[subtle bluff]

LOL T6 is too hard.

[flint arch]

also omg FB pieces are ugly as shit

the backpack is just ugh

[lament reef]

yesterday i joined a t1 where the host was using ninjabike core strength (blue of course)

but he also had a prototype gun, so i guess it was working a little bit

[flint arch]

core strength and ninjabike is the new FB + NBB

i will never forgive the devs for the scourge they released, as if div 2 yt wasn't bad enough already

[soft crane]

whats FB? Facebook?

[flint arch]

foundry bulwark

[soft crane]

oh

[strong cave]

you better still be here im about to post that screenshot 👀 slow hotspot, game is soooo slow

[lone violet]

so i have a question about this yt vid but i wonder if i can do it so much better

[strong cave]

@subtle bluff youve truly seen it all now, irrefutable proof its real

[flint arch]

you can do it better by not even bothering with their build

[lone violet]

pestil and smart cover is a build of all time but i can NEVER use pestil to its full potental cause the dps is cheeks

[flint arch]

pesti damage alone is... passable, its the ticks that make it good

[lone violet]

Is it worth running on striker or? Cause I can’t find anything to use it with

[flint arch]

you could use it on striker but its suboptimal, striker does nothing for pesti's tick damage

pesti guide

[real nacelle]

yikes, pesti ticks scales off of WD aka red cores, which u have 1 of, idk if thats a good idea that build

[supple ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/rMu6vYUc608

[strong cave]

No. Either coco or 3 Lengmo. But 3 Lengmo needs to be red, which good luck finding 3 unicorns in a timely manner. Coco would work best in groups and have higher overall damage. More annoying to play tho

[mild dawn]

pvgc striker with pesti has good enough dot and the hit part gets to use striker stacks

[loud sleet]

I had an hood set with pestilence with max ticks of 1.2m

You just need good amount of weapon dmg and lmg dmg

The ticks are based on wpn dmg so keep that in mind so if you aiming for ticks don't think much Abt crit dmg think more Abt wpn dmg

[eager cloak]

How do you save seasonal modifiers per loadout? Or is it impossible?

[loud sleet]

You can't sadly

[hexed steppe]

Can hit 2mil ticks with concentrated company or lengmo setups. And you really want crit too because ticks alone wont carry a build. If stacking weapon damage, it should be able to do double duty

[loud sleet]

True

But well you get wpn dmg with cores and piece bonuses so that's that

But for attributes you can run crit dmg and chance

[grim bluff]

Insane oversight considering they said they wanted people to experiment and switch around a lot too

[loud sleet]

Yea

[loud sleet]

But if we talking about lmg builds I would still do an Alejandro build over an pestilence build, the damage you can do eoth the amount of ammo and firerate is just so much better compared to pestilence

[lament reef]

that is the new set core strength, so he is getting 70% of a red core on all his nonred cores

bad but not completely useless

[loud sleet]

Core strength is a good hybrid set it is okay in everything

You will have good armor good skill efficiency and ok damage so it is good if you wanna be doing little bit of everything

[lament reef]

skill efficiency doesn’t do much when you have no tiers

[soft crane]

What Core Strength do again?

[loud sleet]

You are correct, I made one that has 50% skill efficiency and 6 tiers just for fun

It works but it is not the best as I said

[lament reef]

yeah i’m working on a yellow build myself but haven’t actually tried it yet

[loud sleet]

Yeah I can send a picture of mine if you want to see it it does ok skill damage too

[hexed steppe]

If doing a pesti build.... you still need to make sure your crit is correct... or you are not... doing... enough... damage...

Your statement about not worrying about crit was incorrect which was why I said anything in the first place.

Ticks wont carry a build.

[loud sleet]

Yes I did write it incorrectly sorry about that not the best in English but the second thing I said was basically the stuff I meant

[lament reef]

you get 40% (75% with chestpiece) of the other two kinds of cores on all your cores

so 75% of a blue core from your red core, or vice versa

you get skill efficiency instead of yellow cores though

[soft crane]

I dont understand. What if im running all red cores?

[lament reef]

what part do you not understand

[woeful chasm]

then you will get 75% x6 of blue cores and 75% skill efficiency(?)

[loud sleet]

This one is not the most efficient but it works well enough to be funny

[soft crane]

@lament reef this maybe?

[lament reef]

yeah, but it’s 15% x 75% x 6 for skill eff

[woeful chasm]

Looks fun, I must try some skill build with the new set.

[loud sleet]

Yeah it does pretty good dage if you use skill damage attributes

[woeful chasm]

But again I can't fit galvanize bp into it.. damn I really want to make use of that talent. Exotic 3x core BPs too strong with the set.. :/

[loud sleet]

Yeah with 6 blue cores and a backpack with 3 cores you will get max of 93.5% skill efficiency

[lament reef]

another gearset for the memento pile

[loud sleet]

Yeah well the core strength set is made so you can't be super good but you can be okay

[loud sleet]

None of my sets that I have created use Memento funnily

[woeful chasm]

Indeed, I just really would love to spread bonus armor to my allies with galvanize and skill spam and still do "some" dmg.

[loud sleet]

Yup it would be good
But you can still use any normal backpack with the set it doesn't need to be an 3 core

So you can have lavoisier as example ofc you'll lose some skill efficiency and dmg or armor but still useful

As lavoisier gives 50% of your armor of you do some status effects I can't fully remember

But then J's use Scorpio and that's that

Scorpio or Elmo's or the one gun you can only get in the Christmas

[woeful chasm]

Tbh, I must try this and see how it performs. Cheers for the ideas.

[static ermine]

Do you know how high my expertise level can get if I only level high-end gear and gear sets?

[loud sleet]

No worries

Lavoisier is really useful as it gives 50% bonus armor for 10 seconds with no cool down so every 10seconds your team can have 50% of your armor

[soft crane]

you mean brandset and gearset? I'd say about 10.

[woeful chasm]

I should have one or two of those in the stash.

[loud sleet]

Good good it is always the best if you have one of every named in the stash

I got almost all the named items that you can still get and basically all of the gear sets
Just because you can make an build in minutes with that

And then I have few characters which inv works as my second stash as my stash is too filled if all was there

[woeful chasm]

Yeah I am quite new but already see the point of Mule characters. <.<

[loud sleet]

What shd are you?

Don't worry I'm only at 415