td2-build-advice

[short verge]

@tawny blaze eventually you'll find yourself branching out and doing some silly off meta stuff, but at the very least you'll have a close to objectively good build in one of your loadout back pockets

[rich lotus]

I wouldn’t worry about meta @tawny blaze once you hit max shade level and can tinker on build at your leisure the game becomes easy mode

[short verge]

^^^^ literally

[rich lotus]

I think the most fun I’ve had in this game is running silly off meta builds that somehow work. The building system in this game is why I’m soo addicted tbh lol

[subtle bluff]

You may never go down due to your knowledge and gameplay. But new players will not understand

[cerulean smelt]

<=tried a full on damage resistence to see if it could do heroic. it probaly could but i get bored too easily and stopped 😹

[subtle bluff]

TBH we don't show of that many spreadsheets acutaly here

Only when asked about them really.

We've had plenty of players come thru here and say they have issues with the same build

[flint arch]

...

[short verge]

blue core flashbang

[subtle bluff]

Saying what you can do per bullet isn't a great way of explain your full dmg output.

[rich lotus]

Yea again that comes down to the individual I can fully agree it’s far more fun to run in and melt anything in seconds and that’s only doable with the build categories showcased tonight. However my favorite color is blue and while that sounds stupid I get dopamine from all the extra armor which is why I like running it like @subtle bluff stated newer players might not understand all that and I fully agree

[subtle bluff]

and I've aagreed with you so you don't have to repeat yourself multplie times.

[rich lotus]

😂I love that tbh

[cerulean smelt]

currently was trying to get a 6 skill tier, something like 4 red core build going with capacitor. them last 2 pieces is a nightmare to obtain though 😹

[short verge]

yeah funny part its literally just a """red""" core striker, but replaced with Turmoil because its a funny kneepad

[rich lotus]

For sure I’d have to get to my PC and run some test but in layman terms my build melts and I can literally run in enemies faces tank never go down and melt at the same time it leans to more chaotic/ noob fun which I enjoy time to time so I show a personal preference towards it

[subtle bluff]

your a broken record now

I again for the 5th time I use to do the same....

[rich lotus]

I noticed the turmoil I didn’t know if it was for the culture or not 😂 I’m going to try that build tbh just for 💩 and giggles

[subtle bluff]

I mean if nothing TTK per enemy type is a better way.

[rich lotus]

Trying not to be it’s easy on discord in lengthy conversations talking with multiple people again sorry if I’ve come off anyways my main point was I don’t crap on all blues or all reds because anything it’s viable in this game almost anything

[subtle bluff]

You're the one doing it...

I try to be simple and to point.

[onyx sage]

why speak many word when few word do trick

[subtle bluff]

The reason why we give striker reds builds is for easy of farming and for end game content that requires you to be on all reds. Aka Raids and incursion.

[rich lotus]

Above I mentioned it’s wrong to lump everyone into one category I was only stating if we’re talking fresh on the scene, new player no skill no mechanics armor is subjectively better till they learn or if that’s your personal preference

[subtle bluff]

already ahead of you there...

[rich lotus]

While I agree the game is in a way easy enough no matter what build you take be it blue or red you’ll be fine if you know the game and have patience

Kinda want to go watch blue VS red now

I know it’s red vs blue I was sarcastic lol

[subtle bluff]

You're moving the subject... Red Striker is needed at the those content level.
We do not tell them they have to use it all the time. It's just a build/gearset they should if they ever want to do raids or incursion.

Stop moving the goal post. I swear you keep doing it.

[rich lotus]

That’s subjective though. While it might be optimal nothing is excluded my friend if you have a group who know what they are doing and you take a build that’s off meta you’ll still be fine just have to adjust the play style I’m not arguing there’s a clear winner for ease and speed and effectiveness but it’s not the only option I can assure you there has to be proof of Non red strikers completing said content

[subtle bluff]

What is subjective? What is needed for Raids and Incursion?

[rich lotus]

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen videos of people completing incursions and reds on non red non striker builds before so to say it’s needed is subjective to say it’s easiest and meta correct

[subtle bluff]

You're moving the and changing subjects AGAIN..

[rich lotus]

Na I’m not

[subtle bluff]

The subject is giving players a build to start them off of right?

That's your WHOLE thing is for new players

Keep it to one or 2 lines

[rich lotus]

See now that’s changing topics we’ve been off that for a while , you’re comment clearly stated that Red striker is “NEEDED for this contents “ that is subjective because while it’s helpful information it’s not 100% required

[subtle bluff]

No.. No...

[rich lotus]

You must really hate reading

[subtle bluff]

Because you don't keep this simple.

I am ESL so there is that.

Who said need too..

[rich lotus]

Oh okay I understand now and I mean that respectfully as I have ESL FAMILY

But your comment did state needed

“Red striker is needed “ is what the comment said and even in context of for newer players I don’t think you should be doing that content as you will be carried to some degree. The build is super strong yes but lack of proper mechanics and aim and movement will play into effect but still although the build would help even for newer players strikers isn’t required is it dare I say meta sure , is it neeeded no , no gear is ever “needed in this game” that’s why off meta runs exist

[cerulean smelt]

i guess, get raid leaders to change their perspective of this as think a good majority is like "do you have a striker build?" not sure if group leader worries about that in incursion, but it's probably the same thing there?

[shut kindle]

Guys can I have some advice

[subtle bluff]

One last time and I'll do this in long format since you like to do a long format to but then never read or go understand it all subjectively.

As a community, we suggest players to start with strikers build due it easy of use, farming and for needed for the raids and incursion. (Note Never said anything about cores) While there doing this build they are farming out there library to be able to farm and make other builds. During the time they can do w/e they want to make any other build for themselves.

For raids most if not all raid leads will tell players to be on all red builds or they won't let them in the raid. Due to how raids works isn't really a thing to do bring blue strikers or anything blue.
Incursion for there FTC striker is needed. Yes there are other way to do clear it but it not as clean nor is done as well when giving up DPS.

[shut kindle]

Prototype gear is going to force all your gear to lose most of its stats. The only thing that will benefit otherwise will be named items with forced rolls. So contractors and foxs gonna be OP again. Is there anything similar to these that would be worth me farming for when prototype comes out?

[subtle bluff]

no idea. PTS stuff I think needs to trash or changed a lot.

too much RNG.

[flint arch]

what is FTC striker? is it the one in the striker guide for incursions

[shut kindle]

Division 2 didn't have optimisation for like 2 years

[dense roost]

im so tired boss

[shut kindle]

It's gonna be the same again, only way to avoid it is to trick the system using the expertise to upgrade system, only way I can think of doing that is named items

[subtle bluff]

First time clear striker should be there only build they bring

[flint arch]

I think the bigger problem is that if you do actually procure a full set of prototype gear with reasonable prototype stats, Legendary becomes Heroic

I tried it out, it's like having Redline Overdrive permanently on

You will need it for Escalation yes, but holy shit does it trivialize the rest of the game

[shut kindle]

You can't just go back to your normal gear, but by the sounds of it it'll basically be required to have these OP sets to farm newer retaliation gear

And likely any exotics that come with

Either way, I'm asking if there potentially would be any other items, not if you would farm them, I'm wanting to farm them, but im trying to work out what would be best

Maybe the mask with health damage for chungas

[cerulean smelt]

you mean escalation right? retaliation isn't being changed aside black tusk being added and an elite one for cosmetical and blueprints

[buoyant perch]

Just regular striker, must not use glass for Iron Horse Faraday

[shut kindle]

Correct I meant escalation

[dense roost]

TBF power creep is inevitable in a game like this esp as it ages

[shut kindle]

So hollow man? Contractors, fox's prayer? That would get me like half way to a good build on day 1 providing they rolled weapon damage and not the secondary stat

[dense roost]

I think it makes sense for gear only the most dedicated of players are going to be using will make all but the hardest of content easier

[fair dragon]

you can use non-Prototype gear to do Escalation; you can also use Prototype gear outside Escalations. Escalation feels pointless to me.

[cerulean smelt]

also providing it doesn't brick the cores. seen some people with weapon damage 0% 😹

[rich lotus]

Again to me this sounds like being a follower vs playing the game you bought and own, why would I play a raid or do anything for that matter where the “raid leader” controls how I play I’d rather slam my balls in the fridge then be told how to play a game that I bought lol. On to the next point I agree strikers is without a doubt meta and without a doubt would make life easier, however a specific gear set meta nor not would never be “ needed or “required if that was the case everyone would stop theory crafting and running different builds they would solely pick the one build and be done so to say “as a community “ if it was my choice I would say “ as a community this is our suggestion however feel free to have fun and play how you want”

[shut kindle]

Yeah I've seen that but I'm thinking I'm gonna farm 4 X pieces of each named item and just see what happens when it comes out

[rich lotus]

Yea no I heard about that and I’m scared of that lol

[fair dragon]

because if not for the 1 prototype gear per Escalation mission, the only way to get gear to then expertise it to 30 in order to Prototype it, funnily enough, is outside of Escalations

[subtle bluff]

I've never said for new players need to have red striker just that for them to try to focus on making blue striker is more effort and isn't working to just have a build that works for now.

The point of basic striker in raids and incursion is that you don't lack the one thing you need to have is DPS. DPS is the easier things to learn at first before moving on to the next thing or role in a raid or incursion.
I've repeat this already multiple times more or less a full Red Striker is just good to have if you're planning on to Raid or do Incursion.
Unless you're wanting to be an nuisance to your raid or group

Idk why you keep pushing back on me about hybrid or off builds that I haven't said they cannot be used but to new players they should not be pushed on to till they learn the basics to the game.

Keep it simple. The more complex you make for a new player that harder it will be for them to learn it. That's all we try to do it.

[subtle bluff]

Go be raid lead then tell me that agian.

Go teach and help FTC clear incursion over +1k times.

[shut kindle]

Why tf you arguing in build advice

[subtle bluff]

Against what his advices new players to do.

You're not wrong at all. I've repeated myself too many times here.

[rich lotus]

I put together a blue striker build with 2 mil base armor just as easy. Could’ve taken me 10 times longer that’s RNG not a replicable 100% stat for any player, let me ask you this as a raid leader right, you tell your new players go full on striker yes okay now let’s say the new players because they are new and lack the proper game knowledge are constantly going down because you told them full red and they die in 3 shots ? The raid is a wash no? Or not because fortunately they are being carried again doesn’t sound fun. I’d never recommend a new player to go full red core if they lack knowledge and skill lol what’s the point they’re going to get melted

[buoyant perch]

@ashen cosmos break this up please

[shut kindle]

Just go play the game or have a nap or something

[fair dragon]

let them cook

[rich lotus]

Vice versa I say we agree to disagree and move on

[subtle bluff]

Bruh how many times you've repeat yourself with 2 mill base armor is LOL

I have agreed to you already multiple times I've said this..

You've have been to w/e to see that.

[rich lotus]

Same , so I say let’s agree to disagree on advice, that’s the beauty of this game there are 1000s of ways to play we don’t have to agree to have a good time . I prefer new players to have survivability until they learn the ropes you prefer they have full damage. Both are viable

[subtle bluff]

He keeps on repeating himself..

[rich lotus]

I’m repeating myself because I’m replying to you brother I can say the same about you we have been repeating ourselves for the past hour it’s not just me

[fair dragon]

That's if they wanted to do the raid. Funnily enough, it's easier for us vets to say "you're new, come back later". Also funnily enough, if they are allowed to use whatever combination of gear pieces that they got from the junk yard, they wouldn't be able to fulfill their role we see them best fitted to, it makes our job harder.

[rich lotus]

Again that’s why as a raid leader I wouldn’t be mean i would simply suggest coming back when you’re fully min maxed and have decent gear, unless it’s a friend group obviously I feel like at that point your right and I don’t see many newer players wanting to do the raids aside from possibly EXos

[subtle bluff]

You yes, I keep trying to repeat in a different way to have different understanding of it.

So you're willing to make a raid group go thru 2 hours IH raid just because you let in a few players that didn't have the good enough builds and force the rest of the raid to drag on for that long. I get you now.
That keep it simple for me to understand you. Done.

[rich lotus]

But again as a raid leader I would be frustrated sure however I would simply disband I wouldn’t leave a bad impression on them of our community where they feel forced. For example when I was new I ran a full red 700k armor build someone came in the summit and I kept dying they said I should quit the game forever because I suck . One of the vets was nice and taught me about different builds and different aspects of builds. I would say as a community we should focus on pointing people in the right direction but understanding it’s not our right to get mad if someone comes in unoptimized it’s no one’s right to tell another person how to play their game

[rich lotus]

Strikers or not if a new player hops in the raid and doesn’t understand the mechanics or not builds out the window the raid is a wash

[tall jackal]

🥱

[rich lotus]

Tbh as a new player if you’re open about being new and wanting to learn or have friends that’s one thing but you shouldn’t touch raids till your fully min maxed. If anything it’s the raid leaders fault for getting mad even though they knowingly went through all of that with unoptimized players not the players fault the leaders fault

[lone glacier]

We're still on this?

[rich cargo]

Is a "healer" build only used in raids? Or also other content?

[fair dragon]

yes

[subtle bluff]

FI healer and support build can be used in an group content.

[flint arch]

FI Healer falls off a bit in stuff like legendary though, eclipse foam is usually more valuable

[rich cargo]

Whats FI healer🙈? Kinda new to all builds etc

[fair dragon]

FI = future initiative gear set

[onyx sage]

future initiative, the name of the gear set

[rich cargo]

Ahh oke

[subtle bluff]

Depends on a few things there...

[onyx sage]

sometimes you can use FI but replace heal chem with foam chem

[fair dragon]

bro is asking for healer build tho

[flint arch]

I see

[fair dragon]

but out of all healer builds, FI is better

[subtle bluff]

Things I've done.. 😐

FI is the supportly of the supports. 😄

[rich lotus]

Depends on if your team knows you’re trying to heal and takes advantage of it lol.

[flint arch]

oh wait I remember a toastey video where he switched out his eclipse foam build for FI in a few areas of Roosevelt Island

[rich cargo]

Yea i just like the "feeling" of a healing build more then a dps one in some cases

[subtle bluff]

FI buffs more than anything else. That's the key why it's so strong

[buoyant perch]

That's the FI foam build Dien mentioned

[flint arch]

Gotcha

[subtle bluff]

You only need to CC so much sometimes.

[rich lotus]

It can be satisfying and rewarding tbh. Just be careful running healer builds that require teamwork with randoms I’ve been on the receiving ending of trying to heal and teammates completely ignoring me but when you save lives it’s very rewarding

[rich cargo]

So its 4 piece FI with btsu gloves and a yellow backpack right?

[lone glacier]

I swear this game is trying to tell me something.. I just got my 8th damn Scorpio

[rich cargo]

Ty

[onyx sage]

it wants you to get overlord

[subtle bluff]

Idk where my overlord is.. I think I decon it.. 😐

My teaching how to kite Wright shotgun... D=

[lone glacier]

Guess I'll have to at some point

[fair dragon]

also worth mentioning that if you're going the healer route, healing is the bare minimum you can do. the FI healer build allows you to support your teammates even further. Cue the above comments about switching healer chem to foam chem, so you can fulfill two roles at once, and increase the group's efficiency as a whole.

[hazy hull]

Memento or keep overdogs

[rich cargo]

Both chems have a downtime feeling like. Oke now what 🤣. If they are fully healed or enemy is foamed. Just spray the shotgun and wait hah

[flint arch]

Memento, also ditch the chest and use something with Intimidate

[fair dragon]

pretty much

[hazy hull]

Ok

[flint arch]

I miss the magical healing box from Div 1

[subtle bluff]

What YouTuber started this... This build is making it's rounds and it's dumb..

[smoky latch]

I watched a whole movie and the tank convo kept going pretty much all through it. Respect

[subtle bluff]

murr

[flint arch]

Only thing I learned was that Chow is ESL

[smoky latch]

Electric Sports League?

[flint arch]

English as a Second Language

[hazy hull]

What hunter's fury and Sherriff?

[subtle bluff]

Using HF chest.

This is like the 10th time I've this build and people asking how to do it better..

HF Chest is trash.

[rich lotus]

You want more damage or armor ? Overdogs for simple better damage and crit , memento if you remember to pick up trophies and want some more armor

[smoky latch]

HF and Sheriff don't really fit together in my mind. You have unlimited range on your main weapon but are restricted to the gear set's talent range.

[rich lotus]

But I would change the build a little tbh

[subtle bluff]

Sherriff on HF is kind of backwards throw onto the weapon itself.

[hazy hull]

The issue is it still spreads like a shotgun

[smoky latch]

Use a different shotgun if you wanna run HF. Just my suggestion

[hazy hull]

So you do have better range but not a lot more than it seems

[subtle bluff]

The funny normal HE shotguns can one shot and Sherifif just can't.

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 omg prototyped hunter's fury might be evil!

[hazy hull]

Might switch to one of them then

Mostly cause I wanna do a shotgun build

[subtle bluff]

Focusing a build around sheriff is the real problem it's not good enough to focus on.

M870 or KSG wtih Brazen.

[rich lotus]

Hey @subtle bluff can you link me the spreadsheet to the builds / those videos that were displayed I have some free time and want to try some of those full red builds out I already have a bunch I’ve put together on my own but I kinda want to mess around with what was showcased it’s peaked my interest

[hazy hull]

Kk

[subtle bluff]

intimidate talent and ad rush BP or Mememnto.

[rich lotus]

Memento is S tier tbh

@subtle bluff that PCG vigi striker build you posted earlier is that raw damage or are there modifiers in the video boosting damage?

[cerulean smelt]

#td2-build-advice message
this video?

[ivory abyss]

Is it bad to use a strikers with a few blue cores? I am looking for 1 build to fully invest in to do almost all content lol strikers clearly is dps king of sets

but in solo i do enjoy having some extra survivability

thus some blue cores to be slightly tankier

[rich lotus]

No it’s not the backfire it’s this one Meta PGC/Vigilance Lex Striker

[cerulean smelt]

Palidin would be the one to ask on blue striker hybrid builds

[rich lotus]

I’m out this 🚪

[rich lotus]

💀

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages

[versed summit]

Skip the blue cores, but memento is a good option to swap in for solo

[ivory abyss]

Also to add I really like momento

[versed summit]

That's all you really need

[subtle bluff]

No modifier why I show it in my build.

[rich lotus]

In all seriousness though strikers is soo freaking powerful if you feel you need more armor go for it. You don’t need it but memento would be a good option tbh. You can literally run strikers as a hybrid or damage. Realistically just stick to damage and run momento

[versed summit]

You using a shield?

[rich lotus]

Okay so if I replicated it , it would still be good

[ivory abyss]

I do

[cerulean smelt]

lol, sorry couldn't help it

[rich lotus]

All good perfect comedic timing

[ivory abyss]

In the build list

Something like these really I just like idk what it is

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1og9FWqIfhTr3Wo-il3GN5Iq7gHEG3EQdj0ZtkHIZAmY/edit

[cerulean smelt]

if the build you were asking was legendary roosevelt. i didn't see any global event or modifiers in the video, only watched a short amount of it

[ivory abyss]

it feels well rounded and not heavy in one direction

[rich lotus]

I see it now, I just wasn’t looking hard enough my fault

[cerulean smelt]

a lot of people aren't fans of the overdrive events the devs been pushing out lately so i doubt the video was during such time

a lot of people, mrchow included, takes a 3 day break when they start the overdrives 😹

[subtle bluff]

Yup...

[rich lotus]

So I’m leaving the all red core expertise up to you I’m not too familiar with all of those Google doc options . If I was to ask you balls to the walls all red core build viable now for any content. What would your opinion be because I am actually super interested now in trying full red

[subtle bluff]

If nothing changes from the PTS. I may not be on much generally till incursion comes along and if it's as easy as IH master I'm out probably.

[rich lotus]

Only thing I’m afraid of is bricking stuff now idek if I’ll mess around much on the new update maybe just a bit

[cerulean smelt]

not a fan of the pts stuff huh?

[ivory abyss]

This is currently the build I've come back to the most when trying diff ones from the build set. Is something like this good to fully invest expertise in like will it work in the new mode coming etc

[rich lotus]

Idek about expertise at this point I hear there’s no reason to on certain items I hear yes I hear no.

[ivory abyss]

I knew gear wasnt worth it, but it might be now since you need 30 to upgrade

[cerulean smelt]

let me ask, how lucky do you think you'll be upgrading to prototype with that?

[tall jackal]

I'd say wait until it drops

[ivory abyss]

well upgrading you get 1 max roll 100%

if you farm drops you could get 0 max rolls lol

[rich lotus]

Shi with my general luck in this game I may not even touch that system I ran 200 countdowns in a row got no exo drops

RNG- really not giving

[tall jackal]

I'd recommend only doing weapons to as much expertise you can. If you want you can do 12 expertise on gear since that doesn't require exotic exponents.

[ivory abyss]

Okay sounds good

[cerulean smelt]

i know the feeling boss. even before they changed the hunters dropping loot. got crap from them

[rich lotus]

It hurts because I’ll be in countdown and get the messages at the end every time , anyone need an extra “random exotic” and I’m like yall getting drops 👀

[subtle bluff]

My comments is changing the ACS12 to something else. Elmo is good and everything IMO this build needs a bit more burst.

[tall jackal]

I mean by like right now since we don't know the release version

[rich lotus]

You think you could help me out @subtle bluff I trust you know more about that then me

[ivory abyss]

I honestly am over elmos lol I need something good to replace it with though

[subtle bluff]

+790 rpm weapon with killer

[ivory abyss]

the 70 round mag is just too good lol wish they would of not put that on it

[tall jackal]

Love my Iron Lung

[cerulean smelt]

<-was never a fan of elmo's so i used mk16, pf16, police m4. then got the lexington and never looked back really

[ivory abyss]

or just revert the ext mags we have to OG state iirc

i think when this game first came out the ext mags gave +30

[rich lotus]

Tbh I love the Elmo’s skin but anytime I play with it , it feels overhyped it could just be me I don’t have the Lex though so I rock the carbine 7

[cerulean smelt]

did like carbine 7 honestly, but yeah, think streamers overhyped elmo's. i always shock the npcs and they glide in a shocking animation to cover and become even hard to hit so i'm like into the stash you go 😹

i hear ctar isn't too shabby either

[subtle bluff]

lower end of them all.

base WD is low.

[ivory abyss]

CTAR?

I love that gun lol, I think P416 is also nice

[ruby lichen]

why would i want a gun that runs on tar?

[rich lotus]

I thought I was the only run , and I was running countdown and the elite got stuck in the vault animation and glided across the room 😂 I like the carbine 7 for the overall feel I will try the ctar as well . I took a break from the game and now I’m forever chasing the freaking lex

@subtle bluff for your every day build do you run one of those builds listed for the best starter builds in the Google Docs or do you run a tech tank? What’s your generalist build ?

[cerulean smelt]

have you gotten the Ruin hunter mask in united iron works yet?. funny how one solution is turmoil 😹

[rich lotus]

I have not but now that you mention that I’m curious 😂😂

[cerulean smelt]

it's not fun, but easily doable at the time with Reanimated Global Event

[rich lotus]

Interesting. Doesn’t sound fun however if turmoil is the solution makes me wonder if the devs enjoy our turmoil

[cerulean smelt]

they did say it was 1 solution. i haven't seen a video of other solutions
oxy doesn't touch the target at all

[rich lotus]

I wonder how that works ? I thought oxy was pretty much the go to for some things

[cerulean smelt]

wonder if OC oxy could though 🤔

[cerulean smelt]

my only guess, the window is far out enough that the oxy radius just doesn't hit the target at all

[onyx sage]

gunnar is simply not targetable by skills, even oxi doesn't do damage to him

it's not the radius

[cerulean smelt]

also, i don't think EP burn targets him does it?

[rich lotus]

True I could see turmoil working obviously for the spread but that’s true it may be out of range. I’m sure there’s someone out there with some crazy solutions

[tall jackal]

As far as I tested you just can't do direct damage to him

[rich lotus]

That’s weird. So I guess turmoil is the go to ?

[tall jackal]

For now

[cerulean smelt]

probably just consistent

think you got a timed script on top of it as well? like after some time he'll just walk off the area and disappear?

[rich lotus]

Unless they add some new ability if skills don’t target idk of many items other than turmoil that simply spread damage other than spreading effects however I don’t see spreading any effects doing any good without the damage needed to kill

[onyx sage]

they said turmoil is the only intended solution for now

[rich lotus]

Yes so it has to be fast then

[rich lotus]

Almost like they want us to equip it

[cerulean smelt]

laughing at us all smoking a cigar drinking hard liquor 😹

[rich lotus]

Tbh I could see someone on a yacht in game watching us equip the turmoil with an evil laugh cigar in hand. Ofc it does no good for me because of my crippling addiction to the game 😢

[cerulean smelt]

you and me both. i try to stop playing division 2, but nothing quite scratches the itch it produces

[rich lotus]

Same . I think it’s my simple brain and the shiny loot. I can run countdown for hours , hate myself , then repeat lol I will say it has one of the best diverse gear systems in the game although at time it feels overly saturated at some point Meta becomes off meta , I say F it we ball ima start running full yellows throw my turrets out and let my team do the rest I’m tired boss 😮‍💨

[rich lotus]

That google doc I see a build with the Coyote , 4 pc striker , equalizer and drummy/ high end is that still viable ? I’m leaving the expertise on reds to you I’m confident yall know more than me about it

[cerulean smelt]

used to love skill builds. tried everyone out there, but it just doesn't quite clear it well enough like 3 providence, fox's, contractor's and grupo mask 😹

[rich lotus]

Tbh out of all the build I think skill builds are my least played unfortunately I hear they can be kinda funny to play

[cerulean smelt]

think it needs updating to be overdogs over coyote's

[rich lotus]

Okay I see the two I see one coyote and one overdogs I didn’t know which one to go with

[cerulean smelt]

but coyote's is still viable if you don't want to worry about Tiers while playing. i got a equalizer + salvo striker build myself and enjoy that as just point and shoot and watch things die

[rich lotus]

I love the salvo tbh . I use it in a lot of builds! I was thinking coyote since I do more group content and maybe slotting the overdogs when I’m rocking solo ?

Plus I have a bad habit of hitting elites first before reds . Might hurt me more than anything

Although can we talk about how hard some of those reds hit I know they are rocking GC

[versed summit]

Over dogs tends to work better for heroic and coyotes will work out better for harder content

[rich lotus]

Okay that makes sense

[versed summit]

Its not veterancy BTW. There's a tiering based on archetype, so like assault, rusher, sniper etc.

[cerulean smelt]

i'm simple minded so i don't know those so i don't use overdogs or shroud. i just like pointing and shooting honestly

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

[rich lotus]

Oh okay so it’s the role vs the vet? See I always mis read that

[magic pilot]

This will help learn what's in what tier

[versed summit]

That ones a bit older, lemme see if I can find his newer one

[rich lotus]

Okay thanks ! Learn something new every second when your as simple brained as I am

[cerulean smelt]

you got picture book format? too many words confuse me 😹 j/k

[magic pilot]

Yea couldn't find it

[versed summit]

Should be the newest one

[magic pilot]

Boom

[versed summit]

Need to have this in the gear sheet tbh

[rich lotus]

Thanks G honestly with over 1000 hours in this game I didn’t pay attention to that

[magic pilot]

True we can link it to overdogs on the exotic sections

[rich lotus]

Like @cerulean smelt I just point and brrrr

Yall think we’ll ever get a new countdown map?

[versed summit]

No

[rich lotus]

Dang. I’m tired of hacking the same terminals lol

Also is the aggro system 100% in this game I swear sometimes it doesn’t work even on who’s doing the most damage

[cerulean smelt]

new incrusion, new dlc (central park), this next seasons climax in Darpa (ugh) 🤮 . think they want the new PVP person to add new maps for conflict

[pulsar burrow]

So my coworker was telling me about a build using capacitor + the refactor gear set for a pure skill build using the striker drone and assault turret and as a backup healer. Last they played was a while ago, so idk if that's any good.

[subtle bluff]

I just don't call it a pure Skill Build.

[cerulean smelt]

to me it works, but i feel it's not as consistent as Future Iniative

[subtle bluff]

Depends on content.

[pulsar burrow]

What would the gear setup be?

[rich lotus]

I only run conflict for caches I’m disrespectfully taking my Pve builds to pvp lol I miss wild lands pvp

[pulsar burrow]

I feel like it would get dogged on in Countdown when the hunters show up.

[subtle bluff]

Ya you don't use this in CD

[cerulean smelt]

yes, because hunters hacks your drone and turret and kills your team 😹

[pulsar burrow]

Sounds about right.

[rich lotus]

Been on the receiving end of that far too many times I see drones I hang back

[cerulean smelt]

i'm not mentioning, the leader boots you because of that 😹

[surreal shell]

Are turmoil still able to get?

[rich lotus]

If we’re lucky lol

[cerulean smelt]

no, was an april fools event

[rich lotus]

You could have mine if possible

[tall jackal]

Then Stretch goals

[surreal shell]

Dam

[cerulean smelt]

think they put them in the krampus box as well

predicting next stretch goal in 3-4 months time

[pulsar burrow]

Also second question. What status effect builds are peeps using? Think I seen a few with people using some LMG that just dazes people. But also the scorpio seemed interesting.

[surreal shell]

What the top lmg build rn?

[cerulean smelt]

LMG is bluescreen, Iron lung just sets people on fire the longer you fire it 🤔 hmmm, wonder how lucky one can get wit that

[cerulean smelt]

currently, probably alejandro because it's new in div 2 but old div 1 exotic

[rich lotus]

Yea good ole big Al

[cerulean smelt]

oh right, i still need the global event mask 🤔 or do i?

[versed summit]

Tipping scales or striker.

[smoky latch]

Bluescreen Negotiator's Dilemma is pretty good

[surreal shell]

Is the pestilence still good?

Remember that being strong

[smoky latch]

CoCo Pesti works well too

[cerulean smelt]

hear Concentrated Company + pestilience gives strong ticks, but you gotta be in a group or use turret/drone to build stacks
i prefer the 3 unicorn lengmo honestly

[surreal shell]

Coco?

[smoky latch]

Concentrated Company

[surreal shell]

O

[pulsar burrow]

Lengmo?

[smoky latch]

Lengmo too but takes time to farm

[pulsar burrow]

What's the bluescreeen build?

[surreal shell]

Tryin continue to make my health/DPS build

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, brandset that drops armor cores. so it's a grind getting chance/damage then changing cores to red

[surreal shell]

I'm a solo player

[smoky latch]

4pcs ND, Česká GC chest, Overdogs for instance

[rich lotus]

I see a lot of tipping scales I like it but you lose the stacks pretty quick I basically run around constantly prefiring

[cerulean smelt]

especially if you do the chest lengmo. need chance/damage/ proper talent (glass cannon) then cahnge core to red and watch your ticks bounce 😹

[smoky latch]

Sacrifice, no need for that chest

[smoky latch]

Yup

[tall jackal]

CoCo is just slow to stack but has higher tick damage

[edgy bone]

got this running strikers currently, replace weapon handling with crit chance or what?

[tall jackal]

Depends on what you you using it for

[edgy bone]

I actually geeked out opening this lol

[flint arch]

CHC

[smoky latch]

Nice piece. Replace the WH with CHC if you wanna run it for regular DPS builds

[flint arch]

also fellow PGC user spotted

[edgy bone]

I have one right now but it's kind of dookie so this is a massive upgrade

[flint arch]

🤝

[edgy bone]

🤝

[surreal shell]

Did they nerf heartbreaker feels like the bonus armor doesn't last that long any more

[subtle bluff]

No. It's hasn't change.

HB only makes bonus when you make a HB stack

Unless those stacks go away you can't make new stacks

[surreal shell]

So than why does my bonus goes away like after 2 second on not shooting

[subtle bluff]

Dunno.

Nothing has changed on HB for over a year now

[rich lotus]

Heart bresker works good if you can keep your armor . You won’t gain anymore HB bonus armor if you lose the bonus armor first you have to lose your stacks so you’re not going to get any more armor if you lose it , kinda have to keep it going to be effective

[rich lotus]

Also are you running linked laser to pulse the enemies ? Or just head shot

[flint arch]

once you lose all of your bonus armor from getting shot Heartbreaker just becomes Vigilance Striker with extra steps

[fossil crag]

Ez fix 1/2 stack
Ditch the stupid stack broker
Use a V45. Instead it stacks fast but not so fast you burn out your HB

[warped crypt]

I have a blue striker w/memento, would switching to a heartbreaker w/memento be better? currently using ar's

[smoky latch]

Striker Memento is fine. If you wanna do more damage roll additional cores back to WD

[rich lotus]

If I’m running heart breaker I use the lefty and stack it up repos then use my AR but that would work too

[fossil crag]

Even the lefty stack to fast but if you half stack the lefty or a acs12 flatline then go ar you’ll love it way more

Then that stupid stack broker. Plus once you ramp up your ROF. With the new holster it that scabber and a peace of UA on a striker that stack broker stops regging your hits and it won’t stack you at all

[subtle bluff]

Brazen is the better shotgun talent

[fossil crag]

Yeah it is when it works .

[subtle bluff]

If you're only shoot 2 rds sure. Otherwise it's doing what you want already to happen and more dmg.

Only bugs I've had with brazen is when it double buffs.

[fossil crag]

Again when Brazen works yes I’m not arguing that

I have the opp it don’t activate some times at all
I’ve Emp a dog unloaded a whole tube of expertise 30 brazen 870 in its feel dog still had lotta health shotty dare weird right now

Foot*

[subtle bluff]

Opp and Brazen are 2 different things.

I've never used both together dunno anything.

[fossil crag]

Opp- opposite sorry

[fossil crag]

Like- Oo dang man I have the opp effect when I eat fruits I swell up and break out in hives

[dense roost]

lets go chat

[fossil crag]

That’s still to this day s tear exotic. ( watch this) it’s way better then over dogs 🤣

[dense roost]

Seems to be a bold statement haha

[grand girder]

1/10 ragebait

[fossil crag]

Watch this aka hold my beer 🤣

Yes as seen on tv oxy clean is the jam But as seen on tv egg peeler do we really need it

[fossil crag]

Yes and no I never said over dog suck I just think they are as seen on tv

Plus I find striker with 10% more ROF way more fun then anything else

[hexed steppe]

30% amp, like adding perfect glass on top without a downside, as seen on tv

every time i look at this chat today im facepalming 😂

[fossil crag]

Way more fun bigger grin on my face> over over dogs

[hexed steppe]

you cant have both? 🤨

[fossil crag]

Not with out running a striker chest…

[hexed steppe]

oh with salvo you mean

[fossil crag]

How else are you gonna get +10rof on striker

And this ain’t no div 1 you can’t run 3 peace striker ninja overcats and the salv. Holster

[hexed steppe]

lets pass up a 30% amp for an extra 5% rof

[fossil crag]

10

[hexed steppe]

like wtf

not utilizing equalizer already?

[grand girder]

fun doesnt = better

lmaoo

[fossil crag]

And again. If it don’t put a smile on my face why use it..? I have over 15k hours in this game idc about 30% Dmg over giggling

[grand girder]

Personally I care about being optimal because I do challenge runs but saying something is outright better when it isnt is just kinda wrong dude, not trying to be rude its just fact

[fossil crag]

Give me 110$ and I’ll run my builds anyway you tell me. Till you do I pay for
My game I do what I want

[hexed steppe]

wait, this tracks.... just inspected profile... nvm

[grand girder]

again I'm not trying to tell you how to play/perform, but in a build advice channel spouting nonsense because of a personal feeling over fact is just stupid

either way 1/10 ragebait

[fossil crag]

It got you didn’t it hahaha

[grand girder]

I like engaging, it brings me joy

[fossil crag]

Much love.

[grand girder]

plus I aint got much better to do right now anyways so why not have pointless arguments online

[fossil crag]

Like I said I’m over/ around 15k hours I don’t care about power creeping to the hills I just have fun do as I like

Also I never said to anyone not to use the dogs all I said was I like my coyo mask more

It’s pve
Im pvp. Overdogs don’t even work in 75% of the content I do.

[near cipher]

im running 4 piece striker (the cores/attributes are all red CC and CD) and elmo gun using crusader shield and banshee pulse. but im struggle to stay alive, even in hard retaliations when the kill squad pops up, i just die.

[grand girder]

ahh this explains alot, I don't care much for pvp in div 2, ran into too many cheaters during my brief pvp time and just kinda fell out of it

[flint arch]

how to not die

[fossil crag]

Put a few blues on it you’ll still do Dmg it’s striker

[grand girder]

positioning

also yeah if you can't run full red thats okay its not a sin, just throw some blues on to increase your shield and armor

but you also can't just stand in the open and facetank bullets you gotta play a bit strategic

[fossil crag]

Yeah. Im not a power creeper or a spreed sheet warrior I just pve to farm for things chill with the gang that don’t PvP and have fun if I don’t find the super dogs fun I’m not gonna use them till I’m paid to

[near cipher]

ah thanks.

[fossil crag]

Don’t worry this will all get canned before day brake in DC

[ruby lichen]

i thought that i would have had normalization at level 30, then 40

and now i realize it might as well be shd 1000

plus level 30 expertise

the grind for gears has never ever been mattered to me more than it should be

[fossil crag]

Mmm lvl 30 exp builds 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤

[dull lily]

Hello, I came back to play after some years and I'm kinda lost. What are the most meta builds nowadays? When I played aces and eights was decently good for sniping, is it still? Is the chameleon good nowadays? On another note, what would be the best build to kill the recruiter? I have a personal vendetta against him. Thanks in advance.

[smoky latch]

Welcome back. A&8 is RIP pretty much. I will link you some up2date suggestions

[dull lily]

sad to hear my gear is bums now, but thanks for the build guide!

[ruby lichen]

you must be the hydrogen bomb i hear so much about

[stray shard]

Any advice build for Tinkerer?

[smoky latch]

Several. What type of build do you want to run?

[stray shard]

This is the current setup that i simply slapped on

Just looking for ideas to maybe run it with AR

[smoky latch]

If you use the Tinkerer mask you need two high-end weapons of the same kind tho

[stray shard]

Right. Reading is hard.

[smoky latch]

Here is one option; you can run Wicked on the backpack as well

Here is an AR version you can try

[stray shard]

Oh thanks

[fossil crag]

Noo I’m just lille ol me hahaha

[fossil crag]

Put it in the box and leave it there till it’s actually fixed so nobody thinks you’re a glitter

[smoky latch]

I doubt they know about the glitches this mask can cause lol

[stray shard]

No i don't... I just got this yesterday

[smoky latch]

Yeah this mask has a funny history

[fossil crag]

Unless I know 100% for a fact I auto assume anyone using the mask is doing it. It’s plastered all over the YouTube sadly

Like if I saw you wearing it iight he’s using it as intended.

Some rando with it on yeah he prob glitching it hahaha. I have trust issues lol.

[fossil crag]

Good. Just don’t look up anything on YouTube and let your intrusive thoughts win lol

[ripe citrus]

hello, is it better to cap CHC?

[smoky latch]

As close to 60 as possible

[ripe citrus]

i capped it but my CHD is around 75% only

[smoky latch]

The general ratio should be 1:2 and almost hitting the cap of 60% at some point. So for now you can lower it a bit to get some more CHD

[ripe citrus]

if I maxed my CHC SHD stat, it is another 10% CHC right?

[gentle lichen]

yes

[ripe citrus]

thanks all for the input. I need to grind 900 more levels

[fossil crag]

There will be an XP event soon-ish they love doing that hand them out like candy on Halloween

[fossil crag]

I hate to admit this, but when I started my fresh account the best way to bypass your watch the CTI damage in the CI hit chance is running the Elmo and always aiming for the head once you hit 1000 and you get all your extra damage then you can be lazy and do body shots

Crit*. Stupid phone

[ripe citrus]

currently running striker set with elmo right now

another question, any advice for the SHD priorities?

[fossil crag]

Good good.

[fossil crag]

What do you mean? Your priority objectives?

[smoky latch]

The watch I think

[fossil crag]

Like the little XP boosts and maybe exotics or season pass XP mini challenges

[smoky latch]

Spending watch points

[ripe citrus]

yes, the watch I mean

[fossil crag]

Ooo that Save them. Hoard them like you’re on a TLC reality show

[smoky latch]

No, lol, which attributes to focus on while leveling up the watch

[fossil crag]

But not the one where she cooks the lasagna in the dishwasher

[smoky latch]

I'd say some CHC, armor, accuracy

But I couldn't tell "the best way" honestly

Prioritize Offense (Crit Chance/Damage), then Defense (Armor), Handling (Accuracy/Reload), and finally Utility (Skill Haste/Damage), aiming to max all four categories by level 1,000 - seems to be like this for the most part

[fossil crag]

Ooo chc 1st the chd then weapon or hsd for the “red” ones
Blue prob armor 1 then health…? And what ever you feel you need

The next one (bottom right). The guns in this game are all laser beams so me I went reload speed 1st

Middle save till you need see above post of mine lol

Last “yellow”. Hast then what ever. I left repair skills blank until I accidentally filled it lol

[ripe citrus]

I have CHC, Total Armor, Stability, Skill Repair.. so I need to go Skill Haste and Accuracy, good thing my watch is only level 100

[fossil crag]

That’s how I did my alt acc.

[ripe citrus]

is this good for now? or should I go for 55% chc?

[fossil crag]

Yeah, you didn’t need to sink into accuracy or stability when you’re using the Elmo but it’s all good. It’s all gotta get done anyways.

Sorry I sounded like that boss in office space.

[smoky latch]

Is OK for now

[warped crypt]

for pure red backfire on solo / duo play, do I go memento or overdogs?

[ripe citrus]

thank you again! it is good to correct my build now since I'm still on the process on leveling my watch

[topaz slate]

Hello, what would be the best activity to farm tactical assessments for any faction?

[grand girder]

pure red you go overdogs

[solar sable]

mOmento is a good choice too

[grand girder]

just keep in mind you'll be squishy asf and even more so if you run with glass

[flint arch]

[smoky latch]

Any time. If you ever have questions don't hesitate to ask here

[fresh compass]

I got that dog in me bark bark

More bark than a tree

Ig i am overdog

[pallid siren]

how can i run tidal basin on the master difficulty or whatever? i did it with some guys but i wna replay it, can i replay it???

[smoky latch]

You can. Fast travel to its location and change mission mode to that climax mission

[pallid siren]

i cant change it to climax mission

nvm i can

[topaz slate]

@smoky latch any advise for farming optimization tactical assessment for any faction?

[pallid siren]

tysm, do you always get tempest and blacklisters or can i get different exotics?

[smoky latch]

This is the only climax mission that can drop two climax exos. You get only those, others can be acquired from different climax missions

[pallid siren]

so only blacklisters and tempest?

[tepid pawn]

Can I find them on internet what they do

[pallid siren]

anyone wna help me with this? idk what the shepherd lvl is and idk where to find snitch hoarder and alat

[smoky latch]

Wrong channel for this

Try #lfg-pc

[pallid siren]

i already asked in lfg pc

[smoky latch]

Well then wait a bit. Or try a different discord, like GCROCK discord for instnace

[ruby lichen]

or just, call for backup

actually no, you might wanna answer for random backup calls

that's how people usually get shepherd levels

[pallid siren]

too hard, ima do the bottom three and hoarder, i already talked to snitch

[ruby lichen]

that means you're yet to finish getting up 30 or pushing past 40

to be shepherd is to be able to guide the newer agents

[subtle bluff]

No. It's just answering a call and doing w/e with them for a set time and then they choose to endorse you or not.

[ruby lichen]

what he said

[silver coral]

is the blue screen dilema build on the spread sheet still viable?

[solar sable]

yes

[flint arch]

it's really just nego but with bluescreen

wait did you mean average gameplay or average gameplay

[solar sable]

one week late buddy

[subtle bluff]

it's a bit more powerful when things are healther.

[flint arch]

idc, answer my question sir

[solar sable]

it's a mystery... average.

[flint arch]

well im obviously not average, only average sir

[subtle bluff]

sirs.....

[flint arch]

one day i will get to play with a premade group again
one day...

[fickle sparrow]

hi...im currently using the pinned hub pestilance and concentrated company build with overdogs and i was wondering......purely from a group perspective would i be better running coyote mask instead of the overdogs to give me team extra boost? or is it too much of a dps lose for myself?

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs works on Pesti Tick.

In the end you can do w/e. The Coyote is tbh unless your team knows and spec for it doesn't matter enough.

[fickle sparrow]

ok so just keep it as is? i did find it really good the way it was....just takes about a quarter of a mission to get up n running but once it does it was really nice....ok thank you for help

[flint arch]

it will build up way faster in a group

you can also prestack it in the firing range

[fickle sparrow]

yeh id heard that but last time i tried it in firing range my stacking icon bar never moved...il go recheck it

[flint arch]

CoCo display is bugged

sometimes it will not show how many stacks you have

but the stacks are still increasing and working

[fickle sparrow]

ah so just empty a few mags at range then matchmake...ok gotcha ty

[flint arch]

well uh you do have to stay in your session for CoCo to keep its stacks

if you tp to NYC or Brooklyn or go to another player's session, the stacks will disappear IIRC

But you shouldn't need to prestack if you're planning to matchmake, with 4 players it will stack pretty quickly

It's more of a solo issue

[fickle sparrow]

ah ok i know what you mean thanks

[pallid siren]

is god giving me a sign to use backfire?

[flint arch]

running backfire without hazpro is more effective

you can spam reload 3 times to gain temporary bleed immunity

and if you reach 100 stacks you won't get bleed again

the issue with backfire imo is that it has the same problem as striker chest, it can be extremely powerful, but you need to be dealing with enemies with massive health pools to get the most out of it

[pallid siren]

or with the ninja bag you can run 3 pieces striker and 2 piece unit alloy and have big mag

[flint arch]

do NOT use the ninjabike bag

[pallid siren]

i dont even have it, and why?

[flint arch]

you will lose so much more by foregoing the backpack talent

no amount of stats can make up for losing it

[pallid siren]

are these builds good? both builds have 40chc 130chd and striker chestplate is for legendary content and the česká výroba chest for everyday stuff like cp and more (cp as in control points)

ik low chc

[flint arch]

blacklisters is bugged rn, it's not supposed to have overdogs talent

[pallid siren]

ima use it until i get overdogs

[flint arch]

replace that ceska chest with equalizer and the ceska holster with salvo and you're good for now honestly

[subtle bluff]

So you’re nerf yourself using it. A normal striker build will just out DPS the BF build

[pallid siren]

without them i have low chc, and my equalizer has weapon handling

[flint arch]

farm for a different equalizer then

[pallid siren]

where how why when

[flint arch]

challenging countdown, Unit Alloys targeted loot

[pallid siren]

ok

[flint arch]

but by no means is that build bad rn btw, it's definitely serviceable

also i recommend using a SMG-9 with unwavering instead of ACS-12 for striker w/ obliterate chest

[pallid siren]

which one? my salvo sucks tbh

[still gust]

guys if i started to build shroud + hotshot n everything is it worth the time to invest? especially as a main loadout for every activity like countdown,raids and retaliations

[flint arch]

the 2nd image is a normal UA holster

[pallid siren]

ik

[flint arch]

if you don't have enough CHC put CHC on the holster, otherwise use CHD

[pallid siren]

so chc on salvo? and mods use 2 chd and 1 chc?

[flint arch]

it doesn't really matter, all that matters is 60% CHC first, and then everything into CHD

[pallid siren]

then it will be 60chc 70chd

[flint arch]

if your CHC and CHD is really lopsided you can aim for 1:2 ratio first

[pallid siren]

is this better? or is 40chc 130chd better?

[cloud sorrel]

this is better

[limpid pelican]

anyone have ss of new high end raid dps build?

[flint arch]

better

[pallid siren]

with m4 i do more dmg but st elmo is more accurate more mag and alat, which one?

[cloud sorrel]

st elmo will do more dps, and the talent will help you a ton

[flint arch]

M4 deals more damage

St Elmo has more utility, but M4 beats it in terms of damage because it can have a damage talent

[pallid siren]

m4 more dmg st elmo more utility, now what

[subtle bluff]

Yes?

[cloud sorrel]

not wrong, but on averaged i'm pretty sure the sustained dps will be higher with the mag capacity no ?

[flint arch]

it's still slightly lower

[cloud sorrel]

ok ok mb

[subtle bluff]

PGC Vig and w/e else really

Striker works even

[subtle bluff]

A lot will do more burst DPS Elmo.

Not just an M4

[pallid siren]

so elmo?

[flint arch]

elmo is comfier to use, it's not a bad option

I forgot to mention it also has free 15% CHC and CHD from its attachments

[still gust]

any downside?

[pallid siren]

or i can use both 😄

[subtle bluff]

The normal stuff using an HS only build would gave

This Elmo with exp 30

M4 w/killer exp 0

[subtle bluff]

here

[summer totem]

Can finally 1 shot bosses in heroic control points now

I feel like memento's better than overdogs, the stacks

[subtle bluff]

Memento will feel for between stuff with the armor regen. Overdogs Vig will do more dmg.

[flint arch]

memento is worse in terms of damage even if you don't use overdogs because 1. it lacks attributes, and 2. you lose the backpack talent (vigilance)

[summer totem]

Wont the stacks make up for the talent lost or nah

[flint arch]

no

[bright raptor]

no, the short buff does not last long enough and isn't as powerful as the Overdogs talent anyway

[flint arch]

it won't do nerf darts level of damage, it will have more utility, but it will simply be inferior compared to if you went all in with DPS

[summer totem]

Hmmm

Noted, so i change the backpack to hotshot?

[flint arch]

no

airaldi backpack w/ vigilance

[flint arch]

by the way, 3pc hotshot with overdogs does more damage than 4pc hotshot (as long you stick to the hierarchy)

[summer totem]

Is the 4 pc talent really that bad for hotshot

[flint arch]

it's not bad, but it's not BiS

[summer totem]

Bis?

[flint arch]

best in slot

[frozen hull]

Holy shit this feels like de ja vu I feel like I’ve read that exact sentence before haha

[subtle bluff]

It's rare for avg players not to miss.

[subtle bluff]

yupppp

[summer totem]

Man

[flint arch]

hotshot and breaking point are two of very few gear sets in the game that have useful enough 2pc/3pc effects to warrant using it just for those effects alone

[subtle bluff]

If you want go for 4pc hotshot try it out.

[flint arch]

breaking point though, you only want 2pc for that, its 3pc and 4pc effect is just not worth it

[summer totem]

I mostly hit headshots does that change anything?

[subtle bluff]

Read the talent...

[flint arch]

you need to constantly hit headshots to keep the chain going

miss a single one and you have to start all over

[subtle bluff]

run it and try it. then try it with overdog

[summer totem]

I feel like the 30% head damage contribute alot to me dealing millions over millions

[flint arch]

unless you're a literal osu player or you're using determined, 4pc hotshot will not be consistent

[summer totem]

But I'll try yall suggestion

[flint arch]

the stat is additive

actually wait, im not sure if overdogs is additive or multiplicative

@subtle bluff help sir

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs is amp

[flint arch]

there we go

[subtle bluff]

it's the final amp number always

[flint arch]

so yeah, overdogs will win because it's an amp

[subtle bluff]

oh i can show what not having 25% vs 50 HSD

[summer totem]

Alright I'll do that build

Can st elmo be as effective as using sniper build on heroic difficultly?

[subtle bluff]

Do not copy the build in the clip.. It's bad.

[summer totem]

The one you sent earlier i mean

The one with overdogs and aeraldi

[bright raptor]

no? It doesn't do enough single shot damage to work with the gear talents

[subtle bluff]

?

[summer totem]

Okay i read the passive and damn 35% damage bonus I see now

[woven pewter]

What do you guy think, to put overdogs into heartbreaker build?

Instead of coyote mask. Is it worth?

[flint arch]

overdogs is better than coyote's

[woven pewter]

So the build in spreadsheet is outdated then?

[flint arch]

some of it is outdated but still usuable

coyote's is still good, you can still use it as directed in the older guides, but overdogs is better

[silver coral]

since the dilema blue screen build is oudated is the overdog and equalizer the new piece in here or cayote overdog?

[flint arch]

overdogs and equalizer

[willow sigil]

I am missing 6% crit chance in my library for my mask and holster. should i still target gearset and look for a max crit chance roll to recon the weapon damage, or target mask specifically for a 6% extract and then target holster for a 6% extract?

i'm not looking for long term, im looking to finish my build right now, just wondering what the quicker way would be?

[vivid jolt]

Id target mask or any of the red core brand sets, they have a better weighting to get red stats

[flat cave]

what builds are the exodus gloves good on?

[mint axle]

striker and any no-pestillence damage build really.

[flat cave]

so a good replacement for the Underdogs?

[mint axle]

I wouldn't say good, it's just if you prefer more dmg or stay alive longer.

or just mess with your teamates with the no aggro smoke

[flat cave]

I'll stash the gloves for now.. I did however make someone angry at me that they sent the quad-copter survaillence ship after me.. my minigun however made short work of it.. lol

[frozen drum]

hey guys, Im new to the game and I dont know all the builds, but I was playing retal yesterday and a guy in our party had a build that gave everyone hollow points. It seemed like a super good build. Does anyone know what he could have been running?

[patent fossil]

Ongoing Directive

there's a full build guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[dusky zephyr]

Any good Backfire and Bluescreen builds ?

[livid sorrel]

Those guns don't really need a dedicated build for them. Backfire can slot into Striker or Hunter's Fury builds, Bluescreen can go into Tipping Scales

[flint arch]

Negotiator

[cyan vigil]

What build would you guys recommend for doing solo Heroic Retaliations? - Should I go with a Hotshot variant?

[livid sorrel]

The one you're most comfortable with

[silent storm]

If you have a Pestilence build it makes Heroic Retal stupid easy

dufuck is this?

[cyan vigil]

his discord got hacked

I'll have to look on the build spreadsheet for a pestilence build

[frozen drum]

If crafted a St Elmo's Engine and it has swap speed on it, is there anyway to change it, or do I have to craft a new one?

[cyan vigil]

the lady next to the crafting bench in the white house - Sells a blueprint that will let you reroll the St Elmos, it’s the reconfigure one, it will reroll the values of the main stats but also reroll the actual secondary stat

[normal shadow]

What would be a good Pestilence build?

[signal frigate]

Bluescreen exotic is strong right ?

[ruby lichen]

i am fond of the weapon purely for aesthetics

but yes it does feel good to use

[signal frigate]

So you dont think its strong

[ruby lichen]

it does feel good to use alongside my rigger skills

it's certainly usable would be what i say

[signal frigate]

My favorite build so far has been bluescreen dilemma

[ruby lichen]

it goes well with spamming skills, and interacting with active skills as well

[silent storm]

Lengmo Pesti or CoCo Pesti. I prefer the Lengmo because it ramps up faster solo.

[normal shadow]

CoCo?

[shy willow]

Concentrated company

[normal shadow]

Right right.

[hexed steppe]

ther is a newer nego guide that covers a lot more variations including bluescreen negodogs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_4UqMQwbnO8M125LgDCX1jJ86LsRkPVKjTwFndPo2zY/edit?usp=drive_link

older guides should probably be archived soon

[silent storm]

Math wizards out there, do I keep the Equalizer or put a Ceska OB/GC chest on?

[versed summit]

Equalizer is worth keeping on.

Trade a CHD for a CHC. You can waste about 4% CHC hitting the CHC cap and still have more dps then trading it for more CHD and not being at cap.

[silent storm]

So just swap the one mod and keep it then

[inner valve]

Anyone got a funny lmg build that melts any npc I see?

[vivid jolt]

is it worth investing in a E30 hazpro striker build to prototype? I'm torn between that and my regular setup since i see that status effects become pretty obnoxious in escalation

[grand girder]

iron lung + 4pc striker overdogs and the snowfall kneepads (cant think of the name is it flurry or something?) for the fun aspect of it

also could use bell ringer idk how useful of a gun it is but i know it is annoying

[inner valve]

I got the game last week. Idk what you mean by iron lung nor how to get it.

[grand girder]

iron lung is an exotic lmg, overdogs are exotic gloves striker is easy to get and ima google what the kneepads I'm thinking of are but im pretty sure they are loot goblin drops

snow machine are the knees

[inner valve]

uhhhh what are "loot goblin drops"?

[upbeat whale]

hey, whats the problem with dilemma bluescreen now ?

[subtle bluff]

Nothing?

[olive dew]

is negotiators dilema a good set to have instead of striker sometimes?

[inner valve]

Am I gonna get the shit beat out of me if i do summit like this? (ik im ass)

[grand girder]

that sure is alot of yellows, but if you don't play as a run and gun your drone should be able to do somewhat decently considering its only challenging

[inner valve]

Should I replace the shield then?

[grand girder]

yeah considering your doing a skill build that foundry shield isn't gonna help you at all, use a turret of your liking (recommended assault)

[inner valve]

Would the hive thingy be good?

[grand girder]

can be, stinger hive can deal some good damage and reviver hive gives you a second chance if you die

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tCcHSui_wM6di2uJMPoJJB6Wx9K-pqbeuWyHAQcJ9AI/edit?tab=t.0

Start here

[olive cosmos]

what's some of the best named marksman rifles i should go for and what talets should i get on them

[smoky latch]

Named or not is irrelevant. White Death is good tho but there are several good regular snipers. A lot of personal preference plays into it. Talent depends on your build but Determined is used very often

[grand girder]

I prefer the tac.308 because of faster fire rate

deals enough and gets more kills faster

[smoky latch]

SR 1 and white death for me due to fast bullet travel time

Animation maybe. Idk how to word it

[inner valve]

uhhhh whats a unit alloy?

[subtle bluff]

It’s shown in the guide….

[inner valve]

nvm mb

[subtle bluff]

OH that’s the wrong guide..

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[bold forum]

you guys got the buuld that use rifle and deal insane amount of damage ?

[subtle bluff]

Insane no. Dmg yes.

[bold forum]

i saw vid of build using rifle doing like 20+ mil per hit

[subtle bluff]

GE’s were on for that

It’s not the build

[bold forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWRhkwlaFA i saw this vid were he claim no global event from a month ago

[inner valve]

I did not know it was an armor set. I thought i was a resource for a sec lol

[subtle bluff]

That’s HH one shot build.

I hate his clickbait

MMR’s do more.

[subtle bluff]

My bad wrong guide… We don’t get embeds so sometimes it’s hard to know what I copy and pasted

[bold forum]

i dont like much mmr , shot goes miss cause of bloom most the time

[subtle bluff]

Why not copy the YouTuber build?

[hearty owl]

Bro what

Bloom on a sniper?

Are we being serious rn

[subtle bluff]

Bloooom

[bold forum]

when shoot literally dont go straight when aiming and not moving

[hearty owl]

Ok 1) that’s not bloom 2) that’s affected by accuracy and by speccing into Weapon Handling you get that. Higher accuracy means less time it takes to have perfect first shot accuracy while standing still

Maybe you just need to run the high end variant and run handling everywhere to get the highest accuracy

[bold forum]

or maybe its a scope related issue perhaps ? when i saw that , it was with the 12x scope on a random mmr , but standing still for long time and holding aim

[hearty owl]

Ok then you’re just missing

[subtle bluff]

12x scope… 💀

[hearty owl]

Anyways you’re running Determined no? You just need 1 headshot to keep it going

[silent storm]

Is that Adrestia?

[hearty owl]

Run a foam chem to make the ad stand still and then headshot it

[subtle bluff]

Sr1

[signal frigate]

Hey so the firewall spec for striker sheild what does it do ?

[misty marsh]

Is running Ninja backpack + Equalizer + Salvo + 3 piece striker pairing with Bighorn good?

[hearty owl]

If your name is KamakazeVonDoom it’s a good build

[bright raptor]

it increases the damage you deal to enemies in front of you, provides a small buff to friendlies behind you as well, and lets you use the flamethrower with the shield up

[misty marsh]

I am stuck on the basic specializations atm since I bought the gold edition a month ago

[subtle bluff]

Not really

[misty marsh]

Full striker with coyote mask then?

[subtle bluff]

For BH?

[misty marsh]

bighorn ye

[subtle bluff]

BH with gearset isn't gear great due to BH not having any Crit mods.

[signal frigate]

So striker if I want to run the crusader sheild should I have the firewall specialization on or no not needed run the sheild with gunner

[onyx sage]

most don't really run firewall unless they need the extra damage

cuz the 10% armor on kill from gunner is more appealing

[hearty owl]

[signal frigate]

St elmos engine and Lexington theres no huge difference between them right ?

[rich cargo]

is a gear mod with incoming repairs actually used? or schould i just deconstruct it?

[hexed steppe]

decon

[lone glacier]

5% increased base damage on Lexington

[rich cargo]

and armor on kill aswell decon?

[hexed steppe]

yeah, mod aok is really low compared to %armor on kill that you would find in sets/specialization

[rich cargo]

oke thanks

[smoky latch]

They are pretty different. While they have basically the same handling and "no recoil", Elmo has a 70 round mag and a CC talent. Lexington has a slightly increased base damage and can use any AR talent.

[lone glacier]

And the 70 rounder is also unique to the Elmo iirc

[signal frigate]

Okay but theres no dps difference using them then

[smoky latch]

Sure there is. I just explained why

[hexed steppe]

bleed resist, disrupt resist, and protection from elites are usually the blue mods you would save for possible build options

[rich cargo]

yea i kinda have too much mods in my inventory but too scared to decon most of it haha

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Those are just base values. No damage talents included

[hexed steppe]

you only need 3 of each, with protection from elites saving 6 in case you do an improvised build that can use them all

[subtle bluff]

Huge/game breaking no.
The different is that Elmo is 70rds mag and utility Talent.
While any HE weapon can put on a DMG Talent.

[rich cargo]

but if i have 2 different build using for example skill haste. dont i need more then 3 of each?

[hexed steppe]

no. save your loadouts and the mods will transfer between the 2

[rich cargo]

ohh oke

[subtle bluff]

Elmo Bottom of Burst DPS, Top on Mag DMG and Sustain DPS. For AR's list.

[hexed steppe]

same with gear pieces being used in multiple builds

[ornate moss]

Which gear sets/brand etc are instant discard?

[smoky latch]

That is subjective. Read up on the brand and gear sets and decide yourself.

While I would say 5.11 and True Patriot for instance, others out there might wanna use it

Check the first pinned message in this channel, it has a link to a massive community spreadsheet. In there, you'll find a nice overview of all brand and gear sets including their bonuses and talents

[willow sigil]

is this worth keeping at all?

or no good because no crit attribute?

[normal shadow]

You can switch the skill haste to crit until you find one that has two or three of your required attributes.

[smoky latch]

This is pretty much a god roll

Replace SH with HSD and it's chef's kiss. Cheers to this drop

[willow sigil]

i dont, need crit chance or crit damage?

[smoky latch]

Sir or madam, pls don't give info if you don't know much about the game yet

[normal shadow]

I do have about 1000 hours in the game but alright then.

[smoky latch]

Chainkiller has the talent Perfect Headhunter. If you read the talent description you will see that this talent revolves around headshots

[smoky latch]

Didn't learn much then I guess

[willow sigil]

head shots do not have a crit multiplier in this game?

[lone glacier]

Headshot Damage% (HSD) exists

[smoky latch]

You want weapon handling besides headshot damage as you will benefit most from it

[normal shadow]

I mean I wouldn't use Chainkiller in a build that isn't for headshots and I wouldn't use yellows in a headshot build. There's really no need to be condescending.

[willow sigil]

ive been keeping the wrong pieces. all of my hotshot gear should have headshot damage then.

[smoky latch]

Yes, those pieces will need HSD

In a headshot build you will always want HSD as main attribute and WH as secondary

[normal shadow]

But do tell, how is that a godroll if you have skill haste there?

[smoky latch]

Because they can roll HSD on it?

[normal shadow]

Sure, it can be recalibrated into a god roll. I thought you meant as it stands.

My bad, we do agree here.

[fresh compass]

[patent basin]

Does anyone have a Technician build that isnt built around skills?

[smoky latch]

Like what type of build?

Specializations are just used to complement builds, not to build around them

That's why you can choose between a few specs for the same build for instance with minimal changes

[short verge]

The majority of my non-skill builds use Technician solely for its +1 Skill Tier... mostly to have a slightly more useful Foam Launcher.

[smoky latch]

Or for the shield

[normal shadow]

This stayed with me, made me uneasy and I feel I need to clarify. I did learn quite a bit and I have played a four numbered amount of hours. However, I've been away for years and a lot has changed in that time.

[smoky latch]

I apologize for that, didn't mean to hurt anyone.

[crude drift]

which one should i choose

[normal shadow]

We're all good. The Internet does lack the nuance - and you are right in that some things just aren't what they used to be. For instance the headshot build is way different now.

[smoky latch]

I cannot translate that, sorry

[fossil crag]

I literally just answered this and another section of this discord

[patent basin]

I'm just struggling with what armor to run with it

[versed summit]

or linked laser pointer

[strong cave]

i use tech for the faraday cage. helps the team against hunters if i can get a hive down

[smoky latch]

You can go the route with CHC/HSD but you will really notice the lack of Weapon Handling. If you run a normal HS build, not one with Determined, you will quickly notice the absence of WH when you start missing headshots that otherwise would be a clear hit

[short verge]

you can always start with a cookie cutter red core striker build and branch out from there

[strong cave]

its usually best to play whats best and then branch out from there after you get the core fundamentals down

[normal shadow]

I can see how that would be a thing, sure. And the gear set is different as well, now I believe Hotshot is the way to go.

[smoky latch]

You can go full 4pcs HotShot, but you can also use a version we call "HotDog" here. Both very valid and work

[smoky latch]

🌭

[lone glacier]

I really need to build that..

[smoky latch]

Which sniper you use it up to you, mostly preference

[crude drift]

Nice

[lone glacier]

May use Mantis for the decoy synergy though..

[crude drift]

what it means by share item

[smoky latch]

You can share an item that dropped during a session with other players. Share time is limited to 60 minutes

[crude drift]

can i sell it?

and can i equip it after

[smoky latch]

It can only be shared with the players who were in your session while it dropped

You can sell items to NPC vendors in this game

If someone shares an item with you you can use it, sell it, decontruct it, donate towards expertise, etc.

[crude drift]

Mexicans? nice

[lament reef]

do the ones for xp, more armor packs, and more grenades

everything else is kind of whatever

[forest ibex]

looking to build this for a friend, so figuring if itd be better to get 2 piece airaldo (chest and backpack) with headhunter and vigialnce til we get chainkiller,
the sniper has determined
@smoky latch

[smoky latch]

Since you already, presumably, have HSD on your HotShot pieces you will benefit more if you add an Airaldi backpack (+10% MMR WD) with Vigilance here

Adding more HSD will result in diminishing returns of that stat

(Less benefits for increasing the same attribute)

[forest ibex]

well the idea was 2 airaldi or 1 piece airaldi and 1 piece walker, harris and co. which is the same brand as chainkiller

[subtle bluff]

Also the P. HH/Chainkiller is just better to have for new players to HH

[smoky latch]

Chainkiller is great here

[forest ibex]

i know but this is a placeholder til we get her chainkiller to dorp

[smoky latch]

Oh it's a regular WH piece with HH? Either way, works too for now

[subtle bluff]

If that's what you have already above just stick with that.

[novel oyster]

Hello all, I was recommended a build, but I’m stuck and confused on how to get these specific rolls on my gun?

It says I need to have crit hit chance x2 and crit hit damage.

I totally understand how swap the third core attribute, but how do I swap the first two, because all of my light machine guns come with lmg damage and damage to target out of cover?

[forest ibex]

ya its WHC til we can manage to get a chainkiller to drop.
thats the ideal, is for CK

[subtle bluff]

what's your SHD at?

[smoky latch]

Those refer to weapon mods

[solar sable]

Those indicate Weapon Mods, all LMGs need CHC as Third Attribute.

[novel oyster]

Lvl 22.

[novel oyster]

Alright thank you.

[solar sable]

SHD or normal level?

send a quick ss of your level please

[novel oyster]

Okay.

Oh, I’m level 40.

[solar sable]

layout is okay but... why is Bullet King there

[novel oyster]

Bullet king is there while I grind out a decent high end lmg to replace it.

I’m trying to match this build that was recommended to me.

[subtle bluff]

Do you know what Countdown is?

[novel oyster]

Yes, I farm countdown for my gear.

[subtle bluff]

and what your library is?

[novel oyster]

I'm still working on that.

[subtle bluff]

just making sure you have the basics

[novel oyster]

Okay.

I was just confused about the crit hit damage and crit hit chance and how to add it to my machine guns.

[subtle bluff]

farm for Equalizer the named Unit Alloy chest

You need to clear CP to get weapon mods

[novel oyster]

That’s what I’m farming for as well as a good lmg as well.

CP?

What is cp?

[solar sable]

Control Points

[hexed steppe]

Note that they need to be level 3 or 4 to drop blueprints

[novel oyster]

these are weapon mods right?

[hexed steppe]

No. Click your weapon and press f

[smoky latch]

Gear mods

[novel oyster]

Oh, okay.

Thank you for all the info.

How do I raise the level of the control points?

[smoky latch]

You get there by doing what local said

[hexed steppe]

You may only have a few mods atm, even if you've unlocked some already.
Youll want to visit the crafting bench and see if any mods are ready to craft

[novel oyster]

Okay, I’ll go check.

[hexed steppe]

Easiest is setting your world to challenging and rolling with it. Challenging is level 3, heroic level 4

[novel oyster]

Ah, okay.
I already play on challenging and I’ve done a few control points already.

[hexed steppe]

You can also do connected activities (little red line) to increase a control points level as well

[novel oyster]

I was wondering what those red lines meant, thank you.

[hexed steppe]

On the right track then. There is a lot of blueprints to unlock including optimization blueprints

[novel oyster]

Yeah, someone told me to do control points and retaliations to unlock most blue prints, so I’ve been doing those and countdowns for the gear to match the picture.

I have everything in the picture except the equalizer chest piece and a good main lmg.

Getting the tinkerer mask has been the most difficult part so far, ahahah.

[hexed steppe]

Nice

[solar sable]

did u do Manager Master solo?

if you did I'll be certainly impressed as you are a new player

[novel oyster]

No, me and my brother started this on pc. we both the same shade level. he is a pure healer build with refractor and bittersweet and im pure lmg dps.

it was rough as hell. lots of fails, especially at the boss arena

[solar sable]

now that is impressive

[flint arch]

some balls were definitely present

[novel oyster]

I have one more question, since you all have been so informative, if you don’t mind.

When I click tinkering and then expertise there is a button that says donate all junk, but it doesn’t let me donate anything, even when I make everything in my inventory junk?

Also, I don’t really know exactly what expertise is to begin with, but I know it sounds important.

[hexed steppe]

Expertise is additional leveling of items to eventually add damage, armor, or increase a specific stats for skills

[novel oyster]

Ah, okay. So like COD prestiging?

[hexed steppe]

You wont see a huge change when donating junk. If an item says proficient, it wont donate.
Items can be made proficient by donating(donate junk), donating materials, or usage.
Named items, weapons are 20 donations of a specific item to make it proficient.
Gear and brand sets are 100 donations to make a brand or gearset proficient

Proficient items are able to be upgraded to your expertise level, which you are currently at 0

[novel oyster]

Hmmm, got to get to work then.

[hexed steppe]

Red is the expertise level, current limit to upgrades.

Blue represents progress to next expertise level. You are 3 fully proficient items to hit expertise 1. 10 increments per item/brand/gearset total.

Yellow is the total items you have fully proficient.

You can have any mix of partially proficient items, as long as you meet the required increments for the next level youll proceed. You can technically have no fully proficient items and still be on expertise 24 😅

[novel oyster]

Thank you for taking the time to explain everything.

I’ll get to work on the everything I’ve just learned.

[normal shadow]

Oh those look very cool indeed. Back in the day™ we didn't have Overdogs or Hotshot or Shroud, we have to make do with Aces & Eights. I did have a dedicated HH build and now I'm going to farm for those as well. Which one is better?

[ivory abyss]

in ikias build guide he has his personal fav solo build as the heart breaker tech tank, it has 3 high end weapons. What would make some interesting exotics to fill in as a 2ndary or side weapon

[smoky latch]

HotDogs version does a little more damage if you stick to the tier order. I couldn't tell you rn about exact numbers

[patent basin]

Are there any high end slug shotguns?

[subtle bluff]

no

[normal shadow]

I can never remember the tier order so I might as well go with a four piece for now. I'm guessing I want a Mantis or a Nemesis here?

[smoky latch]

There are no slug shotguns. Sheriff is the closest to that atm

[smoky latch]

Personal Preference

[smoky latch]

Might help you

courtesy of @buoyant perch

[normal shadow]

It probably will but in the heat of the fight I get confused with them. Need to start learning.

[smoky latch]

With a HH build it usually doesn't matter much

[normal shadow]

Fair.

[normal shadow]

I remembered I liked Mantis and a Decoy.

[surreal shell]

st elmo's engine exotic any good?

Just got it ina drop

[flint arch]

comfort weapon

[obsidian lava]

Its raining exotics today. Got the scorpio, bluescreen, lady death and Vile mask.

[vernal tusk]

Do we have a similar talent like precision strike on smg?

[subtle bluff]

All of that info can be found and more in you look in the pinned messages in sheet2

[vernal tusk]

So you dont know ok

[ripe ruin]

its one of the best very easy to control aswell

[ripe ruin]

hes just telling you where you can find it so you can get off your ass and look for yourself lmao

[vernal tusk]

Bad service

[ripe ruin]

are you gonna leave a bad review on yelp

[subtle bluff]

It's more for the future. But also I didn't want to ask what "similar" part?

[vernal tusk]

I might, if you gys still want to threat people bad attitude

[ripe ruin]

we might have to close up shop if you do that we'll go out of business dude

[vernal tusk]

I just want a simple answer , help , to question and not a laid back service

[ripe ruin]

dawg its not a service nobody here is required to help you

[subtle bluff]

It's not a simple question you asked.

[vernal tusk]

If its not, you should not answer

[subtle bluff]

Oh ok... No then.

[ripe ruin]

okay so next time nobody will answer you

[vernal tusk]

I dont answer if people dont know the answer

[subtle bluff]

It's fine this is simple

[subtle bluff]

What part of talent are you looking for?

[vernal tusk]

Just a aec

Sec

[subtle bluff]

wild

[vernal tusk]

Killing enemies farther than 20m builds up stacks. Max stack is 3.
Hitting an enemy within 20m will use all stacks to provide +20% Amplified Damage to enemies within 20m for 5s. I see its on assault rifle, lmg but not on smg

[subtle bluff]

I know what the talent is...

You asked for similar....

[ripe ruin]

i assume hes just looking for a talent that'll amplify damage based off of distance for smgs

[vernal tusk]

Yes , close and distance yes

[subtle bluff]

Precision Strike being on an SMG would be dumb since most of the smg aren't effective outside of 20-25m anyways

Again this is why this isn't a SIMPLE question..

geez....

[vernal tusk]

Thanks for trying 🙂

[ashen wasp]

With hotshot, how to kill the heavy tank's easily? not getting it and it's eating my headshot chain

[subtle bluff]

Killer is the best anyways

[subtle bluff]

You can't..

[vernal tusk]

Ok thanks i give it a try. Night

[subtle bluff]

Maybe with tac50.

[ripe ruin]

tac50 wont stack either ive tested it

[subtle bluff]

Generally it can't.

It's a weird weapon because it does do what it says but it won't proc for HS kills

But we can use it to one shot razorback...

and break both weakpoint at once with it

[ivory abyss]

I have heard people mention unicorn items, what are some of the popular unicorn items

[clear solar]

Hi im looking for a build that combines dps and survivability any recommendations?

[subtle bluff]

In the starter guide there's a list.

[normal shadow]

Mantis + Decoy.

[subtle bluff]

Best 2 are HF and HB.
There in the build hub.

[ivory abyss]

Is that guide in the pins?

[clear solar]

Where is the build hub?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages

[clear solar]

Im checking there but not seeing anything mentioning a build hub

[subtle bluff]

Hunter Fury and Heartbreaker.

Heartbreaker you don't need to go all reds like it mentioned.

[surreal shell]

What should I use with heartbreaker to boost the damage?

[subtle bluff]

Killer, measured or flatline. On the acs12 brazen

[surreal shell]

Don't have high shd

[ripe ruin]

techinician laser pointer on a lefty/rocknroll + a crusader shield but honestly you shouldnt ever really be using hb over striker