td2-build-advice

[dense roost]

Ah yeah I don't have decoys yet prob why I didn't see it

Probably gonna hop into DLC content tomorrow now I'm level 40 just wanted to make absolutely sure I didn't miss anything in DC

[hazy steeple]

Heh, yeah there's a bit of a confusing line through the story, but as long as you do everything and then Coney Island last, you can run WONY safely.

Battle for Brooklyn comes later on.

[dense roost]

Yeah I wanted to make sure nothing got skipped

I didn't use level boosts will it still skip stuff if I go to DLC

[hazy steeple]

The progression tab in your menus should list what you need to do next, it's been a while since I've ran that though.

[dense roost]

Says I have 3 more missions to do in main but for some reason the zoo is listed twice

[hazy steeple]

Invaded version, likely.

[junior lagoon]

Look at this beauty

Can't scratch hunters though

[dense roost]

I'm guessing side quests and all that don't get skipped

I passed by a lot of them, mainly leveled up through main + playing a lot of DZ with friends

[burnt bone]

Uhhhh if it asks you to boost I think it’ll skip all side quests

[dense roost]

Okay

[burnt bone]

The unlock path is completing tidal basin and then going to New York

[hazy steeple]

We usually suggest to have your main characer as a "slow leveler", and then alts can use skips.

@burnt bone Coney Island is the final mission(s) before WONY.

[burnt bone]

Isn’t completing tidal basin what lets you go to New York without boosting tho

Or is that also Coney Island

[hazy steeple]

If you are following the story path, Coney Island leads directly into the starting events of WONY.

[burnt bone]

Yeah that’s why I said unlock and not story 🙃

[compact glen]

So I just got Dare with Perfect Flatline. Is that good for a Striker Gunner with Banshee?

[solar sable]

nah

Dare is trash tbh

[burnt bone]

Probably could’ve worded it better but what I meant was you have to complete tidal basin before going to New York or it’ll autocomplete all side missions

[livid sorrel]

Unless it has a long underbarrel I wouldn't use flatline with it

[dense roost]

Are attachments worth chasing by doing the sidequests and stuff or should I just play and if I get them I get them

[compact glen]

Almost every Striker build I saw online recommended using the GR9 so I was curious

[solar sable]

youtube?

[compact glen]

yeah...

[burnt bone]

Gr9 is good but online usually bad

[dense roost]

I came into this channel asking about builds but I'm asking a bunch of unrelated questions now so I'm gonna move channels LOL

[solar sable]

oh no...

[burnt bone]

Try this instead :) https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=drivesdk

[livid sorrel]

Striker does work with anything full auto

[solar sable]

Avoid Div YT

[compact glen]

It's cool, I'm going with Y7S3 Strikers

[weary fossil]

Is this allot?

[compact glen]

Equalizer chest, Overdogs, rocking St. Elmo's and ACS

[livid sorrel]

Depends if you need them for your build, but you might as well do them for XP

[solar sable]

its full of clickbait and nonsense yapping

[hazy steeple]

Sorta like here, but without the clickbait.

[burnt bone]

This Striker Build MELTS LEGENDARY CONTENT, EASY SOLO CLEARS

[livid sorrel]

Clearly you haven't seen my 2026 BEST BUILD SHREDS LEGENDARY SOLO MUST-GET EXOTIC NINJABIKE 5 GEARSET BUILD

[burnt bone]

Waow… can I see it… 👉👈🥺

[compact glen]

There we go, now I just need an ACS and Overdogs and my Striker build is done

[livid sorrel]

#td2-build-advice message

[burnt bone]

Well

[dense roost]

Question
So I come from Destiny and did a lot of trio/duo/trio flawless raid stuff in that game and I'm curious, what's the lowewst group count you can do a raid with in this game before it's not possible

[burnt bone]

Can I unsee it

[livid sorrel]

Raids are 8 players so i'm not sure

[subtle bluff]

4 man is the lowest some players were able to do..

[dense roost]

Okay

I have 4 friends on this game rn and we all liked raiding in Destiny so I was curious lol

[burnt bone]

Huh I haven’t seen someone from the lowman server in a while

[subtle bluff]

Full clear.. There are some section where it's been soloed

[dense roost]

yup :3

Haven't played in a long time but I did some fun stuff when I did

Flawless Trio DSC was probably the hardest thing my friends and I ever did in that game (together)

[burnt bone]

I was working on getting my lowman/speedrun times down when I became disillusioned and left the game

[hazy steeple]

Not be melodramatic about it or anything :p

[dense roost]

Is there a pretty active group of raiders in this game or not really

[livid sorrel]

is this what you're asking about? headhunter builds can get absurd

[solar sable]

gcrock

[dense roost]

Definitly wanna get into it when I can meet the gear reqs

[smoky latch]

GCROCK discord is very good for that

[dense roost]

Idea of raiding an airport with 8 people sounds like fun lmao

[burnt bone]

@smoky latch

That’s ambush tho right

[dense roost]

Are the raids in this game pretty mechanically intensive or is it mainly really difficult combat segments

[runic rapids]

going well 😆

[burnt bone]

Did you trip

[runic rapids]

over the mortar apparently.

[burnt bone]

Tie your shoelaces

[hazy steeple]

that exact pose is how I feel when I find out it's going to rain again for the 7th time this week.

I need to wash, damnit.

[smoky latch]

You guys over there at least have still summer, no?

[runic rapids]

wait you an aussie too? ive had 9 days of mild rain back to back 🙁

[burnt bone]

Like. Yourself? Your car? Your house?

[hazy steeple]

It's autumn now, unfortunately.

[smoky latch]

Ah ok. Can't wait for spring and summer here

[hazy steeple]

hey fellow australian!

[runic rapids]

omg i knew there was a reason you seemed cool. that would be why

[smoky latch]

Does that mean we are not? :>

[burnt bone]

Huh I’ve run into a strange number of Australian women playing division 2

[hazy steeple]

Wait a tic, is your username from ME?
I recognise that sniper anywhere.

[runic rapids]

for me its the lack of voice chat. 👀

the things ive heard in cod and other online games has tramatized me for life.

[runic rapids]

yes haha.

[dense roost]

Niche internet communities have a habit of attracting specific groups of people

Like the strangely high number of furries that Warframe seems to attract

[smoky latch]

One is even leading the well renowned clan DFA

[burnt bone]

Yeah I’ve heard it’s rough out there for yall 😭😭

[hazy steeple]

Emily is not wrong about that one.

[burnt bone]

Yes she is my clan leader :))

[smoky latch]

Hahaha small world. Was nice to see them being active again. Shame if they weren't

[hazy steeple]

Honestly, even if you are able to use a mic, most of us just don't. Thankfully text chat in div2 is solid.

[runic rapids]

yeah i used to play a few games where everyone and there dog required voice comms and mics. and i was for a long time a streamer and it really really burned me out on gaming and social anything. like in a good community ill do vc stuff but def not with randoms

[burnt bone]

Uhhh that might just be you attracting them because I’m closing in on 1500 hours and don’t think I’ve encountered more than a handful haha

[hazy steeple]

I'm not able to use a mic for a reason I'd rather not say on a big server like this, but I fully get being too burned out on people to not bother wanting to anymore.
Honestly, emote communication is way more fun anyway.

[runic rapids]

im eternally sad i can not use any of my over 1000 catgirl emojis here.

[livid sorrel]

I don't talk much in game, at most it's giving build advice or saying gg

[dense roost]

Dark Zones have taught me never to get attached to anyone in this game bro people are so evil lmao

[hazy steeple]

I'll know you're using them in spirit 😹

[burnt bone]

I pretty much just mute everyone and only type when I’m telling someone to start a countdown 🙃

[runic rapids]

same i played in the dz with someone for like 3 hours and the moment a exotic dropped they killed me haha.

[livid sorrel]

I hope that exotic was one of the rare ones like EB or Rav

[smoky latch]

Pestilence 100%

[livid sorrel]

Can't imagine killing someone over an exotic component

[runic rapids]

you know it. i have like 7 of them

[smoky latch]

Yeah I knew 😂

[hazy steeple]

Imagine if it was a Chameleon.

[dense roost]

First time I ever went into one I ran around with this guy for like 20 minutes as he escorted me through all the landmarks and then I killed him as he called extract 😭

[runic rapids]

i will be happy if i never see another chameleon

[dense roost]

It's all been downhill from there

[runic rapids]

i learned that you cant do DZ during seasons because of the bug.

and its always a season.......

[burnt bone]

Was it the season or just stretch goals?

[runic rapids]

if you die in the DZ you lose season levels/event levels. and it often bugs out the season/event and at that point your screwed till the next season/event

[burnt bone]

Ah that sucks

[tender whale]

What do we think
53crit chance
131crit damage
Red primers on ravenous for up to 16 mill

[subtle bluff]

with GE sure..

[tender whale]

Huh

[livid sorrel]

the current event is buffing everything by a lot

[tender whale]

The global event that I have turned off?

[tender whale]

Like I'm confused what doesn't add up for you lol

[subtle bluff]

your missing context

[tender whale]

Wow that was so helpful

[subtle bluff]

what does 16mill mean?

[livid sorrel]

damage i assume

[tender whale]

16 million explosive damage from the red primer explosion on ravenous

[silver coral]

any build for refractor build returning player here

[subtle bluff]

⬆️ ↗️

[silver coral]

thank you so much

[silver coral]

does this work on solo legendary?

but atm im still doing heroic trying to learn stuff again its been a very long time that i havent played this game

[subtle bluff]

Not really. It'll get overran.

[silver coral]

do you have one that works on legendary?

[misty fjord]

how can i get better at dark zone someone just kill me out of nowhere

[subtle bluff]

Strikers

But a build won't be what holds you back in solo legendary

[torpid verge]

Learn the maps of all 3 dark zones. Check your map to get a general idea of where rogue agents are since they ping on it. Don't trust anyone else even if you worked with them on a landmark. Especially don't trust anyone during extraction. Try to extract with someone already extracting and leverage that time window. Last but not least I think is super important? Pick your fights, learn when to engage and when to just retreat and run away. If you think the other player is stronger then you, follow that feeling and get away.

[misty fjord]

ah ok

its there a decent way to farm exotics or not really?

[solar sable]

Countdown and Retaliations

[tender whale]

Might be faster to just buy exotic caches from countdown vendor

[misty fjord]

tyty

[tender whale]

As far as I know there aren't any dz exclusive exotics anymore but I may be wrong

[subtle bluff]

mix of CD vendor and priority objectives

You can target for some of the blueprints with retal

[solar sable]

nah

[tender whale]

Oh and the 3 weekly quests for legendary turning in materials and summit but u may need to beat summit once to unlock that

[steep shadow]

for streamline talent is it still gonna apply if we have the skill active?

so im guessing you literally have to not use it

[subtle bluff]

Not worth

[steep shadow]

yea fair

[subtle bluff]

heh heh... Ok I made a clip showing how dumb these GE (just one atm)
I'm tired just wanted to make the clip. It's mostly all HSD build but doing Crit DPS......

[vernal tusk]

Hello i manage to put hazard protection 70% - on 2 Golan, 3 Gila , 1 belstone, Crit damage, some headshot damage , Armor. I have 84 armor regen without armor regen attributes, 36 PFE. Adreanline rush, vanguard. Played legendary i manage to revive players when they died.

[subtle bluff]

anyone can do that tho..

You're just a rez bot that does nothing else..

ok give some bonus armor...... But also current just shown above how easy this GE makes legendary

[livid sorrel]

i feel like ive seen this conversation before

[vernal tusk]

I have damage too so. Close range GE. All others are used to shoot from long distance.

[subtle bluff]

EP Support build can do so much more and make it way easier for the team to do DMG and rez faster

[subtle bluff]

Everyone has dmg with GE. As shown above.. It doesn't make your build any better

[vernal tusk]

I dont play GE

[subtle bluff]

You just said GE...

[vernal tusk]

Im talking about regular build without Ge. You talked about GE how easy it is

[subtle bluff]

You do nothing for DMG with no stats toward dmg.

[subtle bluff]

Why mentioned GE then..

[vernal tusk]

I do damage cause i have it on my build

[subtle bluff]

No you do not

you tickle them..

[livid sorrel]

without GE you are not doing damage

[vernal tusk]

Yes Crit damage is damage

[subtle bluff]

Go clear Zoo first section leggo

just like in the video then..... without GE.

[livid sorrel]

think we're just going in circles at this point if he really insists his build is good

[subtle bluff]

I have energy tonight.

[subtle bluff]

This build does soo much more than your build. Actually support the teams with CC ads so they can't shoot, giving mult buffs and since it has room it can instant rez anyone that goes down.. since it has room it can change and do some healing.

[steep shadow]

yo guys im trying out busy little bee with hunter fury what smg should I us3e

[subtle bluff]

a lot off effort for not a enough gain vs killing them.

It's better doing Orbit

[vernal tusk]

Think what you like, Dps is the only thing you gys know. Nothing about survival . Cause dps players die all the time cause they dont use armor core

[subtle bluff]

If someone ran this build with your build it would make your bulid useless.

[subtle bluff]

And what builds did just show?

Armor doesn't help a player stay alive.

[subtle bluff]

You wanna see something... That isn't just reds?

[vernal tusk]

Ok i take a look 🙂

[subtle bluff]

Looook survival... but it's not all survival because it can actually do real DPS so it can clear.

And funny things it can hold some threat vs any blue "tank" build because it does acutally DPS.

[cerulean smelt]

DAMN! chow went beast mode 😹

[subtle bluff]

Div2 isn't your Traditional game. Bullets hurt a lot. It treat the gameplay more like a realism ish shooter more than a RPG game where Armor and Def you can get tougher.

[subtle bluff]

You see my silly clip above?

[cerulean smelt]

why do you think i replied the way i did 😹

[subtle bluff]

oh lol

Yeah is was thinking to myself I can make something quickly.

I take out a my Crit HF and try to run around shotgunning everything on leggo

ooo wait chatterbox...

[vernal tusk]

Hazard gives damage reduction, i have damage on build i tell you 100 times cause i have Crit Damage. I have armor, armor regen without using armor regen attributes. PFE.

[subtle bluff]

NO it does not.

I can show you that one easily that it doesn't

[cerulean smelt]

hazard just protects you from hazardous things. getting set on fire, disrupted, jammed

[vernal tusk]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

There are VERY few things in this game that give Flat DR without any cost.

[cerulean smelt]

bullet damage it doesn't decrease at all

[subtle bluff]

Ok I'll show you brb

[vernal tusk]

I agree

[subtle bluff]

to?

[livid sorrel]

How much damage are you actually doing?

[vernal tusk]

Bullet damage no reduction

But hazardours , like burn, distrupt...

[cerulean smelt]

that is the good question we're all waiting on

[livid sorrel]

oh god i think he misinterpret you lmfaoooo

[subtle bluff]

How does Hazpro give DR?

[cerulean smelt]

same, spouting nonsense without fully understanding all the attributes we can obtain

[vernal tusk]

Hazardours gives reduction to distrupt, burn which i want to use.

[subtle bluff]

That is not DR...

That is Status Effect resistance.

[livid sorrel]

so instead of dying to burning you die to bullets 1.24 seconds slower than a dps

[vernal tusk]

Not neceseraly if you have regen, get in cover you dont die in a second

Bullet damage

Yes i want status effect resistence too which i have cause of hazzard protection

[subtle bluff]

Screenshot your build.

[vernal tusk]

I have Pfe so it gives protection too, and regen...

[subtle bluff]

Which doesn't do a whole lot.. in legendary

[subtle bluff]

PFE gives some DR but only to Elites.

[vernal tusk]

• i have damage on my build which you denie

[subtle bluff]

Because you haven't shown it

Prove it.

[vernal tusk]

I tell i have Crit damage, No i want a decent, trust conversation

[livid sorrel]

So your nerf darts occasionally do a little more damage

[cerulean smelt]

gas lighting us like a typical youtuber. THIS BUILD SHREDS! but really don't show it or talk about how global events or overdrive events makes it strong

[subtle bluff]

I only trust numbers and I know the number and you won't show the full build.

[vernal tusk]

Fair...

[subtle bluff]

what is your ubi name. I'll just go inspect you and see what you have

[vernal tusk]

No i thought we could have a decent, trust conversation where i tell you what i have

[subtle bluff]

You still haven't told a lot..

Go build it out for us then
https://buildstation.app

I've shown the video and proof.

How and why all blue "tank" builds don't work.

[cerulean smelt]

give it up, they're going to repeat this "trust conversation" 😹

[livid sorrel]

Why don't you tell us how much damage you're doing at the shooting range

[cerulean smelt]

#td2-build-advice message
here's an example of 3 all tank builds in legendary

probalby similar build to you and what knowledge you have but just don't think it's possible to go down

[vernal tusk]

Ok i take a look 🙂

[subtle bluff]

The end story. Is that your build is a Selfish Tank build. You do everything you can to not to go down, so you can rez anyone that does go down.
You force your team to pick up more work for you not doing anything but give some bonus armor every so often and go and rez.

[livid sorrel]

A DPS with a revive hive and a KARD Custom carries their weight much better than a selfish tank ever will

[cerulean smelt]

there's a reason why we have a build spreadsheet with proven builds that we vets point new bros to for an easier time running things in the game. if there was a build besides Heartbreaker where they can run around in a tankish survival build and still do damage we'd have it on the sheet

there's only 1 tank build i know of that's needed and it's for a specific boss in Iron Horse Raid. beyond that tanks are just not favored on as like chow said you force your team to do more damage that you lack for typical runs

[vernal tusk]

Ok

We can agree that i dont have dps build , neither have builds that does outstanding damage. But it about feeling you do some damage and not beeing a bullet sponge. But find balance which i prefer to some survival and damage on my builds.

[cerulean smelt]

if you don't want more hazing don't talk about your builds here

[hearty owl]

😃

[livid sorrel]

[subtle bluff]

You do not have any real amount DMG that will effect overall battlefield with this build you so call have.
You can see with the video I showed that's is a build that does both but acutally both...

[hearty owl]

Are we talking about group or solo play

[vernal tusk]

I play group

[subtle bluff]

Group.

[hearty owl]

Oh so we’re just HP scaling the ads to make it more difficult to clear nice

Like you should see the difference in HP from 1 to 2 players. It’s not even double

[subtle bluff]

reference since he won't share the full build.

[hearty owl]

He admits to the mobile revive hive roleplay

There is no use in this convo. He thinks that is being useful

Being a mobile revive hive while you are HP scaling the ads to make it more difficult for your teammates is just trolling

[subtle bluff]

That I wish I could use words better.

[hearty owl]

It takes more time and bullets for your teammates to kill the ads. So yes obviously they are going down on Legendary, because the ads aren’t being cleared quick enough

You reviving them is not solving the problem. You are causing it

[subtle bluff]

Makes me want to go RMM a leggo on EP and show the gameplay of EP doing more..

[vernal tusk]

Lets not get personal of people gameplay, we all have our ways to play some are good,some are better 🙂

[hearty owl]

Some are just useless roleplay

[cerulean smelt]

you came here, spouted things like you cracked the legendary build code, but we all arleady know based on what you said. you're dead weight for the other players but won't give us a picture of said build because "trust conversation" so believe what you want about your build we know the truth

[livid sorrel]

I'm trying to work out where he got 70% hazpro from, 60% from attributes but where'd the 10% come from

[hearty owl]

10 passive from watch?

Unless you counted that

[livid sorrel]

Ah, right, I forgot, Buildstation doesn't consider that yet i think

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 far as i can tell, legendary doesn't really have much hazard issues do they? mostly explosions and maybe the bleed hive on chungas?

[hearty owl]

It gives him DR apparently

Somehow!

[cerulean smelt]

right, forgot they mentioned that

[subtle bluff]

He admits it's only for Status Effects.

[cerulean smelt]

after someone mentioned it 😹 otherwise if it wasn't brought up how hazard protection works they'd still think it increases your Damage Resistence

[subtle bluff]

And that's fine but the thought when a player in legendary that doesn't contribute much is very selfish in a group setting where..

[hearty owl]

We can’t tell them how to play the game ig but claiming to be useful is not up to interpretation

[vernal tusk]

The adds they set us on fire, bleed, distrupt, poison, disorient , blind - a lot , i dont want that

[livid sorrel]

84 armor regen without attributes is an absurd claim, his build only has 1.5% from 2 golan and 1% from 1 belstone

[hearty owl]

84% is literally impossible

[cerulean smelt]

yeah. legendary doesn't have many that does that in general

[vernal tusk]

But heroic yes?

[hearty owl]

You’re running that on Heroic?

[livid sorrel]

Anything works on heroic

[hearty owl]

Man I feel bad for your teammates

[subtle bluff]

also... a tank getting status effected doesn't do much.... vs being able to take more or something else.

ooo oo I can get a clip of all 3 chunga just bleeding me without any hazpro and just living thru it..

there goes my typing.. and englishing..

[hearty owl]

Just insane how we’re running tanks on Heroic content in 2026. New players with unoptimized builds are curb stomping it and we’re roleplaying on a tank build

[livid sorrel]

Closest thing i have to a tank is running blue hb because i think having your armor bar grow is funny

[cerulean smelt]

english is hard in general

[vernal tusk]

I saw a iron horse build with 3 gilla, 2 golan, 1 belstone 120 % armor regeneration thats because its added armor regen attributes on all 6 pcs

[hearty owl]

Buddy

So where did we get 120% from

Can we get the math on that???

[livid sorrel]

That's 4.5%

[vernal tusk]

The stats from the guy shows 120.

[subtle bluff]

heh heh... My blue hotshot will hurts some eyes....

[hearty owl]

Where does it show that

Do you mean 120k?

[vernal tusk]

Well i google you know but dont have time now

120k yes

[hearty owl]

Thank goodness

[livid sorrel]

[subtle bluff]

Wanna know something about that very Specific IH tank build is?

[vernal tusk]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

It's only job is to just stand there and do almost nothing but pick up and insert a key and once awhile proc Vanguard.

[hearty owl]

Even in the context in IH on Morozova the tank is still getting obliterated by the red bar rusher

No regen is saving them from that

[livid sorrel]

why are we talking about IH when he takes his tank builds to heroic

[hearty owl]

Good point

[subtle bluff]

When did we get on heroic?

[hearty owl]

You’re gettin old chow…

[hearty owl]

^

[cerulean smelt]

#td2-build-advice message

[subtle bluff]

playing other games mean while

[subtle bluff]

wurd

[hearty owl]

My bad Mr chow please forgive me

[subtle bluff]

At least it better than a build

[hearty owl]

You know what I think Reddit would love your build ideas @vernal tusk

[livid sorrel]

Damn throwing him straight to the wolves

[hearty owl]

Should post it on there they have a lot of veteran players 😂

[vernal tusk]

Maybe i can make a fortune 🙂

[split herald]

So I really like smgs and the swap chain has been really fun for me recently. What other weapons should I use alongside and aside from electruiqe what gear should I focus on?

[livid sorrel]

I forgot eletrique has 30% smg dmg at 3pc

[subtle bluff]

MP7 sadly isn't great anymore

[hearty owl]

I did not know this till now!

[split herald]

U just kinda get stuck with a ton of skill attributes 90% of the time

[hearty owl]

I would make a Hunter’s Fury build instead of Electrique

[split herald]

How do, I find it really nice for just pumping headshots

[livid sorrel]

striker, hunters fury are the usual picks

tipping scales if youre crazy enough

[split herald]

Fair but the damage just becomes too low to maintain with the 5 second timer to keep it going

[hearty owl]

Try Striker then

[split herald]

That gives fire rate right?

[hearty owl]

Yes but it’s more about the talent of the gear set

[split herald]

Forgot what that one does

[livid sorrel]

More hits more dmg

[hearty owl]

Shoot and get damage buff

most braindead gear set in the game 🙂

you could try Centurion if you like using swap chain

would pair nicely with swapping between weapons

[split herald]

Sounds good

[cerulean smelt]

was about to say, but that requires weapon swapping

[subtle bluff]

We have someone talking up about his TS Rifle build.. being amazing... ugh

[livid sorrel]

That's nothing compared to my TS Diamondback

[vernal tusk]

I think its frustrating to see some players dont have a build. They just mix and which way that does not make sense like 1 or 2 pcs of a random brand

[inner sand]

anyone can share a good AR build? more specific for st elmos engine gun

[livid sorrel]

Striker, equalizer chest, overdogs gloves

[cerulean smelt]

upper right hand corner. Pins has builds for it

[inner sand]

striker set does more damage than full yellow brand?

[livid sorrel]

Yes

[inner sand]

[hearty owl]

😭

[cerulean smelt]

if you shoot your guns

[livid sorrel]

And hit enemies

[inner sand]

i mean, asking bc i normally run perfect glass canon with vigilance

[hearty owl]

They should make striker stack on just shooting, not hits 🙂

[cerulean smelt]

you're on the right track

[livid sorrel]

Oh damn you can keep the PGC chest then

[hearty owl]

You can keep both pgc and vigi and run 4pc Striker

Which is effectively the best burst in the game

single target burst*

that’s the big boy build

[bold saddle]

Any good striker builds that are new player friendly? Feel as if the YouTube videos I’ve been watching are rather poor at explaining things😂

[inner sand]

no exotic gloves then

[hearty owl]

That’s fine

[livid sorrel]

Equalizer and overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, we tell people to avoide youtube videos as they make builds based on global events or other things going in the game that makes their builds "OP"

[hearty owl]

You’re getting 35% from PGC and 25% from Vigi consistently which is arguably better than Overdogs

[bold saddle]

I see that’s not ideal then lol

[inner sand]

ill change to this then, thanks for the tips

[vernal tusk]

I like Centurion Scabard and unit aloy + striker build or with hunters fury, tipping scale....so on. Always centurion scabard and one unit aloy. 🙂

[hearty owl]

When do you run those 😂

[vernal tusk]

Heroic mostly. Its with armor, grit damage tipping scale and a unit aloy with weapon damage, Crit damage.....:)

[hearty owl]

You know there are people that run it without armor and don’t die

[vernal tusk]

Yes and there are people who die that dont use armor !

[hearty owl]

There are also people who die with armor

[livid sorrel]

Oh boy here we go again

[hearty owl]

The point I’m making is that armor cores aren’t saving you from anything. 1 or 2 bullets at most

It’s exactly the same survivability except you take longer to kill the ads so they have more time to shoot you 🙂

[cerulean smelt]

oh don't forget they might've upgraded all their gears to 30 expertise for that sweet sweet 1 armor core 😹

[hearty owl]

Oh true

[vernal tusk]

Why is it so bad with armor, all players i play with has armor. Its suicide to play with armor in incursion that we know so far 🙂

And striker is preffered

[hearty owl]

I’m sorry I don’t understand. You don’t need any armor for the incursion, I can tell you that for sure I have over 1000 clears of it

[cerulean smelt]

don't know how much i want to troll you. give us all 1k video proofs, but yeah would just be for fun 😹

[vernal tusk]

Yes no need for armor in incursion thats what i said cause we need a ton of dps

[hearty owl]

you can check the clear leaderboards on pc right now

[cerulean smelt]

<-this guy cleared it enough just to get that oreo and stopped

[hearty owl]

I’m like top 20 clears idk how many

[hearty owl]

Ok I misread then sorry

[vernal tusk]

But why do pople play with other then preffered build like striker , i see a lot of people who are knew to division play incursion or some players get kicked cause of to much blue cores

[buoyant perch]

30% from PGC. That build if 100% vigil uptime is roughly equal to ODog 60% uptime.

[hearty owl]

You’re right, there’s no point in playing anything except Striker if you want to DPS. That’s just the unfortunate reality of the game rn. No build crafting when OP things exist

Non Striker builds are just more steps to do less damage

They tried nerfing Striker and people complained so they reverted it

[vernal tusk]

Striker is a rule to incursion - i know

Red core only

• a groupo and ceska....

[buoyant perch]

no that nerf was not reverted, it's still here today

same time with St. Elmo nerf

[livid sorrel]

What nerf?

[buoyant perch]

striker nerf

[livid sorrel]

What did they nerf

[buoyant perch]

backpack bonus from 1% to 0.9%

[livid sorrel]

Oh that

[cerulean smelt]

do recall what the damage was without the backpack in general? i do remember with backpack it was 1%

[buoyant perch]

2x -> 1.9x
3x -> 2.8x with chest

[vernal tusk]

I like the exstra bonuses from centurion scabbard and rate of fire unit aloy

[cerulean smelt]

funnily enough you get 5% from salvo without weapon swapping

[hearty owl]

It was .85% at one point https://trello.com/c/EnrvSjok

Scrolling Trello on mobile is a pain

[cerulean smelt]

i can only imagine, but you managed to do it and find something on it

[hearty owl]

We saw a few mentions of players being happy with the Striker's changes and we need to mention that only the backpack was changed. The main functionality of the 4 pieces is still there and just as powerful. In Phase 2 the value of the Backpack stacks will be brought from 0.85% to 0.9%

[vernal tusk]

A litlle tinzy more then

[hearty owl]

I forget but that little tinzy would have made Heartbreaker relevant again possibly. Don’t remember it was long ago

[cerulean smelt]

and april we don't know what they have in store for us revamping wise 😹

for all we know. striker could go back to 1%, other gears gets some oomph revamps to kind of be in line with striker as well

[vernal tusk]

April is going to be a blast, a lot of great and different gameplay, Rise up season :).

[subtle bluff]

Kind of wished they didn't take HB down to 1.1% from 1.25% in the PTS.

[hushed forge]

wish the events werent so short. it takes me a week to put together a build for it

[patent fossil]

Overdogs nerf hopefully

[subtle bluff]

Ya...

[cerulean smelt]

why you changing builds based on seasons?

[subtle bluff]

It is rather easy power.

[hearty owl]

Determined removed from the game please and thanks

let’s bring back skill to division 2 yay

[cerulean smelt]

REEEEEEEEE! NUUUUUUUU! i rarely use it anyways

[hushed forge]

I mean events like the assault or ambush

[subtle bluff]

you just mean work has actually described

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, again. why you changing builds for it? strikers works just fine for them as is. headhunter builds kind of, but assault buff prefers in your face

when i do used determined it's because i want to be extra lazy

[patent fossil]

Having a hunters fury build for assault is fun

[cerulean smelt]

only build i don't have unfortunately

[patent fossil]

I've been rocking it with chatterbox, so much fun especially when you get a good spawncamp

[subtle bluff]

Ya.... I wanna go break DUA...

[hushed forge]

where do I see the progress bar of the proficiency for this weapon? (big Al)

[storm moon]

still possible get this weapons ?

[worn charm]

Its alrdy at max, you can see you alrdy have upgraded expertise for it

[hushed forge]

no its only 1% buff

[worn charm]

Yes and you can upgrade it further up to 30 expertise but proficiency lvl is at max otherwise you wouldnt be able to upgrade expertise

[cerulean smelt]

least you understood and saw it, i'm looking at it like uh i don't recall where that is as i've got most things proficient anyways 😹

[hushed forge]

But how do I upgrade it further? it didnt let me?

[livid sorrel]

Both of them, not right now. Wait for stretch goals

[cerulean smelt]

@hushed forgeif you want to check the amount you've got things proficient

[hushed forge]

is it the number on left?

[patent fossil]

You have to increase your global expertise level by gaining proficiency in more different gear and skills

[worn charm]

It will only let you upgrade to the level of your overal expertise, which you can check in the tinkering table as is shown on toothless ss

[cerulean smelt]

means you've gotta start equipping other weapons/brandsets/gearsets/named items/skills/specializations to gain proficiency

[hushed forge]

ooof

[patent fossil]

It's a long term grind

[livid sorrel]

Or donate gear, but that's the slow way

[cerulean smelt]

there's a 3x profieiency event going on right now for 3 days. make the most of it

[hushed forge]

💀

[worn charm]

Yes thats it, donate all trash loot drops to the expertise table instead of dismantling it or selling. Right now just equiping gear and plaxing the game is pretty fast since theres event for bonus profficiency xp

[cerulean smelt]

you don't even need to use them. just have htem equipped in your build

[buoyant perch]

well if you use the term "reverted", it implies it wasn't nerfed in the end

[elfin fractal]

any tips/advice? i dont have overdogs atm

[red flicker]

impossible to get the lexington now days right? what is a good AR alternative for a DPS build that isnt the eagle bearer?

[cerulean smelt]

without your stats picture, i'd say probably ceska gloves so you can have more crit damage honestly

[elfin fractal]

oh hang on

[livid sorrel]

Lexington is just a Police M4 with slightly more damage

[cerulean smelt]

eagle bearer was long time ago. like before striker days
we always point to police m4, famas, f2k

[red flicker]

bet, thanks guys

[livid sorrel]

that chc is rough

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, get a ceska piece will get you closer to that 55-60% chance so that you can put the rest in crit damage

[cerulean smelt]

so true especially at the beginning

[livid sorrel]

I'd want to go for 1 chc to 2 chd if you can't hit 55% chc yet

[cerulean smelt]

1pc ceska gives like 6% chc. which is why i suggest it as it inches you closer to what we tell people to get for crit builds

[hexed steppe]

i see a ton of trophy on your minimap so you must be killing more than yourself.

[deep vale]

Hey can someone share heartbreaker build for pve

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure there's one listed in the spreadsheet build hub in the pins upper right hand corner

[burnt bone]

Does it not?

[subtle bluff]

that technically determined is glitched by the bug board.

P. Determined works as intended and normal doesn't.

[cerulean smelt]

nods i feel perfect should be what normal determined does but with crit damage and the normal determined should be just 1 headshot, then body shot that counts as head shot on repeat

at one point they did do that i believe but players revolted, so they put normal determined back to what we have

[burnt bone]

What you described is how normal determined currently works

[subtle bluff]

A CD on it would work imo.

[burnt bone]

Do you know what’s bugged about determined? I couldn’t find it on the trello

[cerulean smelt]

yeah no kidding. i'm saying at one time they had it where you do 1 headshot, then you can do body shot for headshot, but you had to get another headshot to get determined again. players didn't like that so they revolted. devs put it back

[subtle bluff]

It maybe gone now.

It was there for the longest of times since the release of it and when they fixed it things got kind weird..

[dapper glacier]

is there room for improvement in this build? or there's better ones?

[runic rapids]

i feel like i do okay 😆

[cerulean smelt]

prepare for the hazing

[dapper glacier]

it feels good shredding elites though... but I would like to do it just wee bit faster 😆

[cerulean smelt]

1 people will tell you to get rid of ninja bike backpack because it's a direct nerf without having a backpack talent

[subtle bluff]

you have GE on?

[burnt bone]

Is this for general pve stuff

[hearty owl]

You have really low crit damage

[cerulean smelt]

you look at build picture 🤮

[hearty owl]

due to running 5 gear set pieces which can only roll 1 stat

[livid sorrel]

A lot of room for improvement, in fact

[hearty owl]

Also ninja bike has no stats. Just really crit starved so yeah there is room for improvement lol

[dapper glacier]

yeah is crap on pvp

[dapper glacier]

GE?

[cerulean smelt]

Global Event. current it's Assault for close range 200% damage

[dapper glacier]

oh yes I do!

[dapper glacier]

like what?

[cerulean smelt]

toss off ninja backpack, go striker, swap stiker chest for ceska Obliterate chest, 99.99999% player base favorite is overdogs exotic gloves

no overdogs? put striker and don the coyote mask

[dapper glacier]

i dont have the overdogs yet :/

I have this one too

[subtle bluff]

Coyote > Ceska = 2nd UA > Salvo

Do you know about the build hub?

[dapper glacier]

yeah but i like to build my own stuff and came here to peeps take the piss 😭 🤣

[livid sorrel]

So you came here to waste our time, awesome

[dapper glacier]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/ i have been using this and also what I currently have available

[dapper glacier]

not really 🙂

[night cave]

Use the striker BP instead of the ninja. Your chd is very low to do ample damage. Using an AC12 variant or Lefy will allow you to build your stack faster. Elmo AR with 70 mag and shock ammo is good weapon. Use the Equaliser chest with perfect Obliterate, foxes knees and overdog gloves should improve the build massively.

[slim coral]

How is Virtuoso with ARs? It seems both things apply when killing things with AR?

[cerulean smelt]

i feel it was clunky at best

[slim coral]

Hmm, ok, because it seems we kill things in both ranges with AR so it would stack nicely, but I haven't tried. Still new to trying out builds since I've just recently started playing again 😄

[dapper glacier]

is unstoppable force still a good perk?

[cerulean smelt]

it's one of the unicorns for a pestilience build

[dapper glacier]

so you meant this?

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, you're trolling

[dapper glacier]

no mate! no really I just don't have too much time 😭

[slate wedge]

not a unicorn btw

[cerulean smelt]

how often have you had it drop with chance and damage so you can change the core?

[slate wedge]

you mean Backbone?

[cerulean smelt]

yes, for the longest time i've gotten it with chance or damage and some other stats but never together

[dapper glacier]

you peeps think i should add Crit Chance to the chest and mask I only 51% or should I add something else?

[neon zealot]

i just got it and now i feel basic 😔

[shy willow]

Even though stuff like yellow sacrifice, contractors, foxes and red backbone etc aren't as rare as normal brandset unicorns id still say they're unicorns

[neon zealot]

51% is enough for striker's+coyote i feel

[cerulean smelt]

until tuesday you'll wish you have 60% 😹

[slate wedge]

still, Unicorns are only items where you need the right 2 secondary attributes and talent

[dapper glacier]

due to the GE?

[neon zealot]

i mean that's also gonna give +25% crit chance base

[cerulean smelt]

you have your definition, few other has other

to me if i have to change the core it's a unicorn

[hearty gyro]

anyone have a good recommendation on a good pfe dps build for master mode just came back to the game yesterday and want to build a good build for master mode

[patent fossil]

Common unicorn vs endangered unicorn

[upbeat whale]

what is the best build for pestiliance ?

[patent fossil]

The pinned spreadsheet has many good build guides, take a look and you should find the one you need @hearty gyro @upbeat whale

[hearty gyro]

ty very much

[robust yarrow]

Where can I find the spreadsheet?

[hearty gyro]

the top of the channel theres a tack or pin lookin things beside the bell under there

[robust yarrow]

I’m on my iPhone so it isn’t showing up like that.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, phone gotta do something else, i forget what that was

[livid sorrel]

#td2-build-advice message here

[inner sand]

so, what to go?

[cerulean smelt]

most people is the first 1 with overdogs. my striker buld i went with is hte salvo/equalizer combo

[patent fossil]

All a bit lacking in crit chance except the double prov

[inner sand]

i can change the backpack to prov, its just that its the one im using rn 😅

[patent fossil]

Although I suppose meta these days is first one but equaliser instead of sacrifice, so not that different

[inner sand]

and like this?

[patent fossil]

Weaker than overdogs but still strong enough for all content, I'm sure.

[inner sand]

yea, ill go with overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

nods extra 5% rate of fire

[hushed forge]

How viable are headshot builds in pve?

[patent fossil]

Very for most content (certain exceptions like marauder encounters exist but in predictable locations)

[hushed forge]

would you know any viable headshot builds? Im guessing 1886 is the most widely used gun for it

[patent fossil]

Determined headhunter builds are the most brainlessly easy heroic-all-directives option for xp farming that exist, they feel like cheating

[patent fossil]

Depends if you want to go rifle or mmr, but check the build section in the pinned spreadsheet for sniper setups

1886 is generally faster but doesn't have the infinite ammo benefit of a hotshot mmr build

[hushed forge]

Do you think this would work

[patent fossil]

Yes that looks pretty meta for a rifle version

[sweet moon]

What'd be the play for a Sheriff build?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd imagine hunter's fury build?

[buoyant perch]

striker

[sweet moon]

Striker and Hunter's with Ninja, got it
(I jest)

[junior lagoon]

am i the only who thinks alejandro builds just dont work?

[cerulean smelt]

i'm waiting until april to try it out in some builds. can't be bothered to turn global events off and on or having overdrive events screw the build

[junior lagoon]

i tried couple but staying in cover gets you killed no matter what

[lunar zephyr]

i want to play a shutgun/smg hunter fury build. can i go for any shotgun and put preservation on it or is there a MUST play shotgun to get a good dmg on this build? Im new to it sorry if its dump :D

Trying to figure out what the best stats is on everything. So far i understood for armor Core = armor and other stats crit dmg/chance
but now i am trying to figure out what weapons i have to farm

[flint arch]

Hunter's Fury build guide

note that the obli ceska piece should be an equalizer instead

[cerulean smelt]

@flint archyou need like some trolly face emote at the end

[junior pasture]

How's this build

[flint arch]

trash everything except the mask, chest and holster and read this striker's build guide

[hexed steppe]

the armor rolled pieces can stay or be rolled red again as long they are crit rolls

[livid sorrel]

blue cores on striker are alright until they get good

[cerulean smelt]

DAMN!!!!

[livid sorrel]

Could've worded that less toxic gamer but brain no worky at 1am

[hexed steppe]

personally, i dont use blue cores really, but if i felt i needed too then i would just run memento instead

spelled gud wrong

maximize the toxicity

[flint arch]

personally i think we should rip the bandaid off and force them to run PGC Striker with a Vigilance bag

as they say, can't learn how to walk if you can't run

[cerulean smelt]

fresh 40 mandate!

[sweet moon]

If you jump in at the deep end, the shallow end seems like a cakewalk

[hexed steppe]

pgc with mortar did you mean?

[flint arch]

shush

[sweet moon]

Thinking about it. Why the hell do they say "cakewalk"? who the hell is walking on cakes, anyway

[flint arch]

english is a weird language

[sweet moon]

Agreed

[cerulean smelt]

i agree, it should be abolished

[sweet moon]

I will speak 👽

Anyway, Striker's Sheriff is....fun, using it has Aura, but I do miss the LMG

[cerulean smelt]

damn, do i hate hunter's fury that much?

[sweet moon]

Did Hunter's Fury destroy your house or something?

[hexed steppe]

no, that was the mortars

[cerulean smelt]

Localdeck's mortars in fact

[compact glen]

I have a question, in the Division 2 Gear Spreadsheet, the Builds Hub lists "Red, Yellow, Blue" what does that mean?

[hexed steppe]

had, where did it go?

[cerulean smelt]

red = Weapon damage, Blue= armor and yellow = Skill Tiers

[compact glen]

That makes a lot more sense.

[hexed steppe]

not appropriate

[compact glen]

So what's more ideal for Striker, Gunner or Firewall?

[flint arch]

that was a really weird thing to say back there

[cerulean smelt]

we just say red/blue/yellow as it's just easier

[olive cosmos]

rate my buid? im 20 hours in

[flint arch]

heartbreaker only does sufficient damage if you reroll their cores to red, because with this setup you're only going to be able to give yourself bonus armor and not much else

[cerulean smelt]

almost hazed you, then was like nm that memento

[compact glen]

imo I'd use this on Firewall I think. Go for a shield tank, it's a pretty nice build I dig it

[livid sorrel]

I'd run a high end gun for the technician laser

[compact glen]

But yeah, should I go Striker Gunner or Striker Firewall? I was gonna save my Firewall for the FI healer

Or would Technician be better?

[flint arch]

you can put the same specialization on both builds you know

[livid sorrel]

What's stopping you from using both? Personally I'd go gunner

[compact glen]

Oh wait, Firewall is wrong for FI, that's Survivalist mb

[cerulean smelt]

now you want demolitionist so you can mortar things to death 😹

[compact glen]

I mean, nothing really. Its just easier for me to remember which build is which if I stick to one build per specialization

[olive cosmos]

i tried with striker build the chest peice annoyed me so i stopped trying to get it

[compact glen]

I still need to get overdogs. I'd run ACS instead of whatever you have in your secondary slot, but that's just cause I'm following the Striker build on the spreadsheet

[livid sorrel]

Striker chest isn't worth it outside of situations where you have enemies with enough health to stack on

[compact glen]

I like Gunner, but I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to run Firewall instead because I have no use for LMG perks.

[cerulean smelt]

if the black listers weren't bugged i'd say PGC/V/Blacklisters 😹 660% incoming damage come on!

[olive cosmos]

nah i meant the equlizer chest i got like 5 drops and that was my best one

[flint arch]

gunner has 10% AoK

[compact glen]

AoK?

[flint arch]

armor on kill

[compact glen]

Oh interesting...

[livid sorrel]

Yeah it's all rng

[olive cosmos]

mhm

[livid sorrel]

Gunner has nice stuff for full auto guns, not just LMGs

[compact glen]

Just got this roll on my ACS, but idk if I should keep it and optimize & swap minor attribute and talent, or if I should farm out a better ACS

My issue is, I need True Sons Tactical Data or w.e and everything is currently occupied by Black Tusk smh

I really don't wanna do a thousand things every week before I can even farm them out

[livid sorrel]

Finishing the invaded missions + stronghold will get rid of them iirc

[compact glen]

yes

[junior lagoon]

do not optimize this, it will cost too much

[compact glen]

So keep farming for a better one. Got it.

Right now, while I'm farming, I'm just doing everything I can to unlock all talents and max out the attributes in Library

[jolly sapphire]

what are we thinking what can I improve

[compact glen]

Let me just say, Big Alejandro is easily one of my favorite LMGs

[cerulean smelt]

swap chest for Ceska would be my suggestion

[solar sable]

ditch grupo, use Ceska and hit 60% CHC and not less

also, that blue core is there for emotional support

[flint arch]

TS wants you put everything into CHC since the gear set provides CHD

i said "demands" but that wording is more of a Nego thing

[compact glen]

is waveform any good for a holster, or should I just scrap it?

[flint arch]

it's meh

[solar sable]

ew, scrap

[jolly sapphire]

so ceska with obli and CHD or CHC

[solar sable]

both, you NEED to hit the CHC cap

[jolly sapphire]

so I need to hit 60%

[flint arch]

yes

[compact glen]

is backfire any good?

[solar sable]

yes

[compact glen]

okay, I just got it out of an exotic cache so I'll hang on to it

[olive cosmos]

are there any exotic masks worth getting

[compact glen]

and finally, Sawyer's Kneepads

[hexed steppe]

solid component

[solar sable]

Coyote's, Tinkerer and Vile
If you do pvp then Catharsis too

[solar sable]

excellent exotic component

[hexed steppe]

no vile?

[compact glen]

lmao

[solar sable]

i forgor

[jolly sapphire]

Im going summit to get that chestpiece

[olive cosmos]

i only pve

can i target loot farm oxpecker yet?

[lunar zephyr]

so just that i understood is right:

1. i farm the set i want to play
2. meanwhile i put those i dont need into library to max a specifiy stat/attribute i want to have on my set
3. I can use a randomly / preferable good set piece in tinkering and put the stats i want onto it

is that right or am i missing something

[hexed steppe]

its definitely in the reward loot pool. havent personally had one drop from target loot tho. its probably in there tho if i had to guess

[lunar zephyr]

like i get this specific piece in the picture only dropped with core weapon dmg but i want armor on it. so i just replace it or do i grind until i get it with core armor?

[hexed steppe]

cores are set, you have to farm the right piece so a main core can be rolled to non native core. like the blue hf you have there

[lunar zephyr]

ah okey thanks

[tawny forum]

i need soem help my peeps. Level 68 and im lost haha

[winged timber]

guys i've come back to the game and want an immortal shield build

could someone help me out with that? where do i farm it? is there some guide for it

[flint arch]

shield builds won't make you immortal at high difficulties

and tanks are not very useful in this game, aggro is not really a thing

[winged timber]

alright what could u recommend

i've seen this screenshot and a clip but dont know who this guy is

he was mostly eating tho and just getting hit from enemies but not dying

[flint arch]

first of all, div 2 yt is really bad, full of clickbait, there's only like a single digit number of gems in there

[winged timber]

like his shield was just going up

[flint arch]

second, this is like a tank build for a raid

[winged timber]

i see

[flint arch]

bring this into legendary and it's not going to really work

[solar sable]

no such thing exists

[winged timber]

any recommendations then and maybe a guide?

[flint arch]

perform literally any other role, dps, support, but not tank

[lament reef]

this works for this guy because his character is actually the egyptian god anubis

[winged timber]

dps is my go to usually

[flint arch]

it's always back to striker

[solar sable]

a Support helps fk tons more than a Tank

[lament reef]

striker is so unfun
check out negotiators

a bad support is also a drag on the team compared to even a mediocre red who can shoot

[coral reef]

there is only one use for "tanks" and its in some parts of the Iron Horse raid. Other than that, its a waste really

[kindred sable]

hey everyone-I have not played in years. How viable was my old red crit dps build? what can I do to improve and chase? I just need some goals to set so I can start grinding but a little overwhelmed

[lament reef]

looks vintage but workable

with that setup, you could probably jump into countdown right now and be fine while aiming for strikers, negotiators, or ongoing dilemma from the build spreadsheet

[hexed steppe]

Ongoing dilemma ninja hybrid?

[kindred sable]

where do I access said spreadsheet

[solar sable]

pinned messages

[hexed steppe]

📌

[flint arch]

I'm going to add a ninjabike bag to my theoretical mortar build

[hexed steppe]

Do it

[winged timber]

so this is what i would want to go for with the equalizer chest?

[hexed steppe]

I condone ninja mortar because thats still a convert 😎

[winged timber]

i farmed equalizer chest and salvo holster yesterday

[solar sable]

yeah

[winged timber]

what about the holster?

do i put salvo on or no

[lament reef]

no

it’s not worth losing strikers4pc or overdogs

[solar sable]

you'd have to use Strikers gloves instead of Overdogs

[winged timber]

where do i get overdogs?

[lament reef]

oh, if you’re missing that go ahead and salvo

[solar sable]

anywhere with Gloves TL

[lament reef]

also from a retaliation blueprint but it’s kind of ass to craft

[flint arch]

honestly it was more ass trying to get it to drop

[winged timber]

well this is the best that dropped for me so what do i put on

crit chance or dmg

[lament reef]

what is your total chc and chd before recalibrating that

[winged timber]

bad

26 chc

[solar sable]

holy moly

[winged timber]

but none of the gear is really optimized i have on rn

[olive cosmos]

what talent do i want on most ars

[flint arch]

killer in solo play, measured in group play

[lunar zephyr]

is this oke or any tipps?

[olive cosmos]

THX

[jolly sapphire]

now what

[solar sable]

Chainkiller does nothing here, ditch and use Ceska Oblit

[solar sable]

much better, that's it

[jolly sapphire]

ive 97% CHD

[solar sable]

@lunar zephyr Chainkiller does nothing in crit builds as you don't hit headshots 100% of the time so it only works in One-shot/HHF builds

[solar sable]

that doesn't matter, TS already gives tons of CHD

what matters is hitting the 60% CHC cap

[next creek]

whats a good build for fresh 40 to start farming with

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[jolly sapphire]

feels like my first time getting st elmos lol

alejandro feels like st elmos and bullet king had a kid

[solar sable]

lmfaoo I've never seen such an accurate description 🤣

[jolly sapphire]

a big kid

like look at this hunk of metal

[solar sable]

He's a hungry boi, be careful because he will 100% consume your ammo in no time. No wonder he is Big Alejandro

[hearty gyro]

is this fine for master mode potomac event vcenter: the manager master mode

[solar sable]

uhh... no, not really

[jolly sapphire]

im intimidated

[solar sable]

I mean it gets the job done but at the cost of spending two hours trying to complete Master

[hazy steeple]

Div2 builds look more complicated than they are, really.

[jolly sapphire]

blue screen build confuzzled me to crap

[hearty gyro]

im looking at spread sheet trying figure out what one of these builds is best for master mode for team play

[solar sable]

that looks like iKia's Spreadsheet, his builds are rock solid

[hearty gyro]

so that build is fine for group play on master mode lol the 2 hour to complete master mode has me confused i just came back 3 days ago so im trying to get away from only build witch is full red coyote mask buiild

[flint arch]

the answer is usually always red Striker, or some other variation of a red dps

[hearty gyro]

i was told my red striker build was bad for that mode by someone today

[flint arch]

and the occasional support build like eclipse foam and/or FI healer

[solar sable]

🤣

[flint arch]

who the hell told you that

[solar sable]

that dude knows SHIT then

[hearty gyro]

i can find the name if you want i told them same thing

[flint arch]

nah no need

[hearty gyro]

i knew my build was fine but iwanted to make sure i wasnt holding others back

[flint arch]

if you're worried about that, just know that being a red DPS is never the wrong choice

[cerulean smelt]

strikers is more than enough honestly

[hearty gyro]

well i appericate i figured it was fine but wanted to hear from the pros after a long break so ty

i know the coyote mask isnt in most builds now ive seen but i know the build wasnt bad

[flint arch]

coyote mask isn't as good as overdogs but it's still a solid option

[solar sable]

if someone says going red strikers is bad then

1. Doesn't know how to play all red and is afraid to learn
2. Wants to hold you back
3. Number two but with a twist of "You'll make this boring"

[hearty gyro]

yee im trying fix that and go overdogs now but wanted to just get my mask quick then change

[hearty gyro]

ya most people ive encounter dont under stand how to run and all red build and just run and gun and want to get face huged by bullets

well ty for all the imput im make more builds from this but im run my all red and get my mask ty

[solar sable]

My definition of boring in Div2 is Determined in groups and taking unnecessary amounts of time to complete a single mission

[flint arch]

is the polar opposite 4 people all running PVGC Striker

[solar sable]

The definition of fun:

[hearty gyro]

ya im trying to find 3 others run run things up with right now i got 1 other so tech 2 people

[solar sable]

@flint arch you should try to play with Dien and the boys one day, it's hilarious 🤣

[flint arch]

if I wasn't swamped with so much homework

[lunar zephyr]

so this?

[cerulean smelt]

@solar sable will do your homework for you @flint arch

[hearty gyro]

w

[flint arch]

though it's mostly my fault because this server is exacerbating my procrastination problem

[hearty gyro]

well ty corrupt and doomz appericate yalls input alot ❤️

[flint arch]

put a red core on there and it's good

[cerulean smelt]

they'll never steer you down the wrong path

[lunar zephyr]

ok 👌 so any m870 and the build on the left should be fine ig?

[flint arch]

that's a concerning number of blue cores

[solar sable]

put Brazen on your shotty and you're gucci

[lunar zephyr]

i saw it on someone and it looked strong but im so new to this game so im confused to what do haha

[flint arch]

unless I'm missing something

[solar sable]

oh wait wait wait

[lunar zephyr]

currently im just spammin countdown with hf tl and put everything in library on armor crit dmg and chance

[flint arch]

this is why we usually turn off any modifiers before testing whether a build is viable

it's likely that their build was strong because of the Assault GE

[solar sable]

@lunar zephyr

[flint arch]

but that number of blue cores is going to really hurt your damage output

[lunar zephyr]

so since i want to play shotgun main because of hf i want to get my crit dmg and chance high and a balance of blue and red core right?

[solar sable]

50%+ CHC/110%+ CHD

[flint arch]

if you really need the blue cores, keep a max of 3 blues for a tier 6 shield w/ technician spec and memento, but just know your damage will be lower

otherwise, you either go big or go home, get red cores on everything

[lunar zephyr]

currently i have this gear on, (i dont get hf set with blue cores) and i feel like im bullet fooder

[solar sable]

happens to the best of us

[lunar zephyr]

i have nearly every gear piece in library maxed on crit dmg and chance should i put that on any hf gear i want to play or keep grinding till i find the best suiting one?

[solar sable]

you can do that yes, but you can only recalibrate one slot per item

[flint arch]

the best way to not become bullet fodder is not stacking blue cores, it's learning how to position and corner peek

a simple way to get shot at less is to just prioritize tall cover

[lunar zephyr]

so i could only affect one of those ? so i need to find one with 2 maxed or how can i understand it

[solar sable]

take a peek at the Lvl40 Starters Guide at the Library and Recalibration section

[lunar zephyr]

ok ok thanks

started like 2 days ago im so confused hahha

[flint arch]

take your time

[cerulean smelt]

Recalibrate you can only change 1 thing on weapons and gears. we tend to tell people to find stuff that's maybe 1 optimization to 2 off from max on the stats. change 1 thing to max or the talent for chest/backpack

[lunar zephyr]

ok i understood

so you would recommend 3 red 3 blue? I doesnt matter which has which right?

[solar sable]

yur

[lunar zephyr]

wouldnt thorn be better than m870 with perfect brazen?

[jolly sapphire]

I remember being here

[solar sable]

I mean it works too

[lunar zephyr]

saw m870 in many guides so i thought it like the shotgun to play but thorn atleast sounds good hah

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no.

The basic take away from here is that:

Exotics/Named Weapons/Gear aren't always the best nor is needed for every build.

[lunar zephyr]

i guess it depends what and how i want to play
ill just try both

[compact glen]

So what's a better spec for FI Healer, Technician or Survivalist?

[subtle bluff]

They both do something for the FI that the reason they're both used.

Neither are better overall.

[compact glen]

So it's literally just preference

[cerulean smelt]

i stick to survivalist as i don't like swapping my technican each time i use it for skill builds

[subtle bluff]

Depends on content.

[cerulean smelt]

i know, lazy to respec the damage to healing isn't a long thing in general, but i just don't care to do such things often so survivalist for Healing it is for me

[subtle bluff]

Tech spec is required for some situations that makes it key. Otherwise general PvE survivalists work.

And also being 6 skill teir with The Setup.

[compact glen]

Next question, is there a build that utilizes Coyote's Mask?

I assume its good for a sharpshooter build

Hell yeah

[hushed forge]

what does that white icon mean next to the items stat bar. I mean the top two ones

[subtle bluff]

Any dps build that wants to buff their team would the be the reason to have it on.

[subtle bluff]

Armor doesn't matter.

[compact glen]

Sharpshooter can buff, right?

[compact glen]

I was more pointing out that it's all 6

[flint arch]

the stat has been optimized

[subtle bluff]

Wait what? All spec give some kind of buff

[hushed forge]

how do you optimize stat?

[compact glen]

I know, but isn't sharpshooter more buff oriented?

[flint arch]

tinkering menu, where you would normally go to recalibrate your gear, you can choose to optimize

[compact glen]

I'm still learning the specializations.

[hushed forge]

Ok I try to look again

[subtle bluff]

Eh... If all the allies are doing HS...

And the spec info is in the Gearsheet

[somber wolf]

what wep can i get over the lex since i cant get it anymore

[winged timber]

guys for overdogs do i just target farm gloves in countdown?

[somber wolf]

yes

[winged timber]

is it hard

[somber wolf]

nah not really, youll get carried if you dont know what to do

or you can do hyena retal and get the blueprint

[winged timber]

whats faster?

[somber wolf]

uhh

probs retal, i think its a 5050 shot but then you have to craft it

[cerulean smelt]

countdown is 8 players and you get quite a few loot running it

[compact glen]

If I'm going FI Survivalist Healer with Scorpio, what Assault Rifle should I take in my secondary slot so that I can use the 5.56 magazine?

Better question is, what does the Survivalist 5.56 Mag do?

[hallow jungle]

SHD Level is still under 1k so i dont maxed my SHD Watch yet. Change something? Should i use Overdogs gloves ( god roll ) or?

[solar sable]

get more CHC and yes, use Overdogs

[somber wolf]

oh wait i think youre the same build as me right

[hallow jungle]

almost yes

[solar sable]

you need Obliterate on your Ceska chest

[somber wolf]

dang your chd is way more than mine, am i ass kek

[hallow jungle]

OH SHI i didnt even look what talent it has

[subtle bluff]

Just curious where did you get this?
Seen this exact question and post multiple time today already.

Any weapon with +790 rpm with killer (solo) and measured for anything else

[hallow jungle]

is it a named talent? or

[compact glen]

If I'm going to be rocking Scorpio on FI Healer, what should I use for a secondary?

[somber wolf]

its on the spreadsheet :D

[subtle bluff]

In the build hub?

[somber wolf]

ye u want a link?

[subtle bluff]

Just ask which spreadsheet.

[somber wolf]

uh i think its kia something

[subtle bluff]

Ok I know that one.

[somber wolf]

ikia thats his name, its the same on the spreadsheet

[subtle bluff]

Yup just checking. I'll have to go chat with him to make a note for this. It's coming up too often.

[solar sable]

there is a Perfect Obliterate chest but you need the extra CHC Ceska gives so, regular Obliterate

[compact glen]

Do I have to use two shotguns?

[hallow jungle]

thank you very much man!

[somber wolf]

perfect obliterate is on my equalizer, idk if this is the one youre talking about

[hallow jungle]

use striker mask and overdogs gloves

[subtle bluff]

Read guide. It explains.

[hallow jungle]

i guess?

[subtle bluff]

Simple answer you will ever min dmg overall.

[subtle bluff]

They're not replying to you.

[hallow jungle]

yeah but i need regular one on my chest piece. that was the thing we talked abt. not perfect obliterate just the normal one

[stuck berry]

My Hunter’s Fury is all red cores with the exception of Memento adding in an extra blue + yellow core. Would the damage have a drastic reduction if I replaced one of the red cores with another blue for added survivability?

[cerulean smelt]

yes

[stuck berry]

Would you recommend an extra blue core or stick to the current build?

[cerulean smelt]

however many blues/yellows you go your weapon damage lessens

[patent fossil]

not that drastic tbf, maybe 6% or so total lower damage

(for the first core, more if you switch more cores)

[subtle bluff]

Why a yellow?

[stuck berry]

Memento gives you all three cores in one gear piece

[cerulean smelt]

it's on memento

[stuck berry]

You reckon a shotgun-based Striker build would be efficient considering the global event right now, or is HF still better?

[subtle bluff]

Oh.. I need to get off my phone and read better.

Shotgun is slow so you would build striker stacks.

This event you could really do anything.

[stuck berry]

I wish I had the Sheriff. It would probably make the event a lot more fun

[subtle bluff]

No because you need to be close anyways.

Sheriff actually does less than normal shotguns with Brazen.

[dense roost]

Would this be good in a pestilence build?

[hearty owl]

No

[dense roost]

Noted

[hearty owl]

Pesti ticks aren’t a status

[subtle bluff]

There's very good guide in the Build Hub that goes over pretty much everything for pesti.

[dense roost]

Interesting

Oh yeah other totally unrelated question

If I'm doing an assault rifle build and using a body shield is it worth having a couple of yellows for skill tiers to get the shield to be tankier or do I not GAF

[flint arch]

red dps means full red

[onyx sage]

if you want to do that then might as well use blue cores

[flint arch]

if you want shield strength you want blue cores

[dense roost]

So in short: Get good and just don't get shot?

[onyx sage]

blue cores give you armor and also increase shield tier

[dense roost]

Ohhh interesting

I'm learning so much you all are very helpful people

[onyx sage]

I'm just here to bully @subtle bluff

[dense roost]

based alert?

[subtle bluff]

Fair makes up for the other day.

[hearty owl]

Yes basically

Not a huge learning curve in this game tbh 🙂

I see you have the lowman tag so I’m sure you’ll be fine on all reds

[swift raft]

Whats a good build to solo retal?

i'd lookup on yt but i was recommended not to go there

[flint arch]

your typical red Striker

[dense roost]

lmao ty

My trio flawless GOS finally coming in clutch </3

[misty fjord]

is summit good for farming exotics?

[cerulean smelt]

just big horn really Edit: forgot capacitor

[livid sorrel]

Countdown better

[hearty owl]

No not really. Targeted loot doesn’t drop that frequently than Countdown

[livid sorrel]

you can get a cache around every other run

[cerulean smelt]

every run when the Countdown overdrive event runs?

[misty fjord]

what other run?

[hearty owl]

From the Countdown vendor

The exotic cache from the credits you get

[cerulean smelt]

every 2 runs you'll have enough currency to buy exotic caches

[misty fjord]

does it matter what mode in countdown ?

[cerulean smelt]

challenging

[livid sorrel]

Challenging minimum

[misty fjord]

oh i do that mostly

[hearty owl]

They should make Legendary Countdown tbh

[cerulean smelt]

have even more failures?

[livid sorrel]

I just want a new countdown map I'm so sick of the power plant

[hearty owl]

Nothing beats failures than the first encounter of Discovery Dark Hours

That is the real endgame

[hazy steeple]

Why are you running discovery dark hours?

[hearty owl]

It’s fun to try to solo it while 7 other people are waddling around

I’m just really bored

[cerulean smelt]

hence your pfp? jus tnow noticed it lol

you should be Whaetdattebayo

[hazy steeple]

If you're bored enough to be running discovery dark hours with randoms, I recommend you play another game for a while.
It's just going to burn you out long-term.

[livid sorrel]

Real boredom is trying out stupid random builds

[hearty owl]

Or running the Incursion over and over again 😃 right @subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

someone has does worse than me now

[flint arch]

joining sub level 40 backup calls

[hearty owl]

Incursion jail to shave 2 seconds off by trying to get Wright to path normally for once 😭

[subtle bluff]

facts

[dense roost]

Listen gotta help the little guy out

(I am level 40 and the little guy)

[livid sorrel]

Do sub 40 people not endorse

[upbeat whale]

Hey, still pretty new to the game, what would be builds you would recommend for Solo Summit, team summit and raids ?

[flint arch]

red Striker for the first two, last one depends on your role in the raid

[tiny citrus]

Striker,heartbreaker or umbra

[hearty owl]

You can get away with running striker on both raids

[upbeat whale]

But isn’t striker to squishy for solo summit ?

[flint arch]

typically red Striker also works for the raid, but more specialized and niche builds work in the raid for specific roles

[flint arch]

You are supposed to be squishy to deal good damage

You counteract the squishiness by learning how to position and corner peek

Prioritizing tall cover is a good start

[upbeat whale]

Then I’ll try that

[flint arch]

Striker guide

[dense roost]

Just did a run and got a good amount of striker's gear, how is this looking (Don't have a pair of fenris gloves yet but gonna work on getting some)

[flint arch]

Chest needs to be replaced with Equalizer

[dense roost]

Also wondering what some good exotic armor to look for is

[flint arch]

Also, Fenris isn't that good anymore

[livid sorrel]

Overdogs

[dense roost]

Would I better running this + some other walker harris gloves until I get the better substitutes

[flint arch]

eh, i guess you could prioritize crits first

[upbeat whale]

Which version do you play? Mine is with Equalizer + Overdogs