td2-build-advice

[untold island]

Is that the one that has the A in a circle with the points???

[smoky latch]

Yes

[untold island]

I’ll take my lick on that one, Agent. Editing neooowwwww😫🔥❤️💀

[smoky latch]

Thank you

[untold island]

I just got infinitely roasted low key …. [Whomp] 😥💀

[hazy steeple]

Nah you're all good, div2 is a very complex game with way too many moving parts and re-used names.

[untold island]

Not the AI Lesbin🤣🥴

[smoky latch]

Nobody roasted you, we just try to keep it easy to understand for everyone, especially for all the new players lately

[hazy steeple]

Rivens is fine.

[olive cosmos]

can someone show me what my technician skill tree should look like ]

[flint arch]

this is the second time i've seen someone refer to you as "lesbian" and not Rivens lol

[burnt bone]

Full

[olive cosmos]

for pve

[burnt bone]

Damage if you’re dealing damage, healing if you’re healing

[untold island]

In my book, ‘tis a roast! ❤️ you all. I am back in forth between D1… finally hit 30 and lost like a mf💀 so I’m sticking with D2 till the mobile version comes out eekkkkk 😫😫🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️ so EXCITED 😆

[burnt bone]

And then whatever weapon bonuses you want

[hazy steeple]

You'll see it a lot more if you hang around the server for a while.

[olive cosmos]

of course but what are the imporant ones i should start with

[burnt bone]

Oh uhhh what build are you running

[smoky latch]

You don't have many options, it'll mostly look the same. Just unlock everything. For turret and drone builds (and most others) make sure to pick +10% skill damage over +10% skill repair

[olive cosmos]

i just started this build but trying to go for heartbreaker build

[burnt bone]

I’d go for the +1 skill core and the laser pointer first

[slim coral]

Is there a DR on stacking Skill Haste?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[slim coral]

Do we have a list or breakpoints for skills?

[elfin fractal]

question about the lvl 40 guide, should i just finish summit using striker as targeted loot? can i even finish 100?

[olive cosmos]

i just went with this for now for the laser sight

[smoky latch]

Not that I know of. You'll notice it starting at 13s

[flint arch]

It's unlikely that you'll finish Floor 100

It's not really worth it

[burnt bone]

Uhhh do you mean to farm a striker set or just to do summit

[slim coral]

Thx, just wondering since both my turret/drone is at 10 sec atm and I wanna try out Refractor for more survivability. That's why, guess i'll bring out the old excel XD

[burnt bone]

You should get all the striker pieces you need in 1 or 2 countdown runs

[flint arch]

Besides, Summit isn't very good for loot farming if you play it normally

[elfin fractal]

just farm 😅

@flint arch trueee! im bored at floor 31 haha

i just need to farm striker except for armor and gloves right?

[slim coral]

I'm at 90 atm it's tedious

[smoky latch]

I think I'm at 13.9s for both skills with my setup. 4pcs Refactor, 2pcs Hana-U, SD main attribute, SH secondary

[flint arch]

If you just want to farm loot, stop at a boss floor (multiple of 10). You enter the floor, kill the named enemy, leave one of the ads alive, get the loot, return to lobby, and repeat

[burnt bone]

Have you checked out the lvl 40 starter guide

[flint arch]

also armor is not very specific

[slim coral]

I was thinking of slapping on Waveform and Hana-U named backpack Force Multiplier.

[flint arch]

and you do need gloves since not every Striker build wants Overdogs

[smoky latch]

Do not use Waveform 🫠
I still wanna try Impromptu with Memento tho

[flint arch]

at this moment, you can skip out on the striker chest for now, but you should get 4pc of everything else (no not 4 of each, just get 1 pc of mask, holster, backpack, gloves and kneepads), only the backpack is mandatory

[slim coral]

Oh, it's bad? Oo

[smoky latch]

It's inconsistent. It's not really bad but it's never first choice

[coral reef]

so I just tried refactor cuz i wanted to use Birdie's with something and its now my favorite build in the game for group play

[elfin fractal]

oh i never knew that, so i just kill the named enemy then just return to lobby, ill try that at floor 40. i can also change targeted loot right?

@burnt bone yup, i tried countdown but im dying 😅

[flint arch]

yes you can change targeted loot

[cerulean smelt]

beace waveform swaps left and right, you really don't experience high skill dps for any lenght of time

[burnt bone]

Are you doing countdown by yourself

[cerulean smelt]

loot, difficulty too i believe

[coral reef]

can you share your refactor build? pls

[slim coral]

yeah that's true. Thx

[flint arch]

also for countdown, make sure you're doing it on challenging, stick with the group, don't rush, do objectives, do not use any deployable skills at the first and final section with the hunters

[smoky latch]

If you run Birdie's Quickfix 100% of the time it's wasted potential 95% of the time. Just hot swap to it if you need it

[flint arch]

I've seen people in challenging countdown wear the most jank builds in existence and they still survive until extraction

[elfin fractal]

yup and i guess that's the problem, i tried matchmaking but no luck on finding other players :/

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say those are probably to work on proficiency

[burnt bone]

Matchmake on challenging and you’ll find a group in 10-15 seconds

That’s where most of the playerbase is

[flint arch]

forgot to mention their SHD level has 2 digits or even 1

[smoky latch]

I'm not at my PC rn so I'm using iKia's build description

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[cerulean smelt]

ah, nm, maybe htey're going to get a build or they follow some odd youtuber build 😹

[coral reef]

oh yeah, that was funny! I discovered refactor while trying Birdie's and now im lookig for ways to squeeze its potential

[slim coral]

I just wanna be able to survive easier when doing things with my skill build

And Refractor seemed nice since it gives healing ^^

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

Top notch

[slim coral]

Yeh that's the one i've been eyeing 😉

[cerulean smelt]

FYI: it wont' be consistent healing honestly. your turret has to be able to hit your targets along with your drone

[coral reef]

will try this but im leaving Refactor chest

[untold island]

Speaking of I have a 60% Crit and 170% CHD skill build. Basically your skills are drawing the enemies attention as you melt them. Build also gives your skills 93% skill dmg. Which isn’t much but it’s surprisingly effective in a team.
Wyvern (8%) [Impetus “The Force Behind Something” Named Chest] +15%
Hana•U - ForceMultiplier Backpack (+30% for 3 sec)
3 piece Empress Int.
10%
Waveform Holster
[Exotic] fluctuating skill dmg between both skills (30% to one skill, after 10 sec, transfers to other skill)

[cerulean smelt]

in 1 or 2 days your damage will plummet btw

[smoky latch]

If you or your team kiss the floor at lot it makes sense to use the Refactor chest

[untold island]

I have a workaround for that @cerulean smelt

[flint arch]

less than 24 hours actually

[cerulean smelt]

as long as you're aware of the overdrive currently running

[untold island]

And that 93 is without the event with the event I’m at like 120ish

[slim coral]

Atm i'm running Capacitor, 3 Piece Empress, Impetus and Force Multiplier and Waveform. The dmg is good but not my survivability.

[cerulean smelt]

24, oh right yeah 😹

[untold island]

But I can spike it higher using harmony so it’ll be 123%

Again, without the event

[hazy steeple]

16 hours, 19minutes until the build dives.

[untold island]

With the event I’m at 150-160% skill dmg once all red

Thanks LESBIN 🥴😫❤️🤣🤣🤣

[hazy steeple]

I'd appreciate it if you just used Rivens.

[keen plank]

Anyone good builds with the catalyst mask? Or is it not worth it?

[cerulean smelt]

there's better options 😹

[coral reef]

BOY HAVE WE TRIED TO MAKE IT WORK

[smoky latch]

@coral reef @slim coral
Just FYI, you can also use Empathic Resolve on a chest piece to buff your team's damage. Given that their survivability isn't an issue because the Refactor healing will become less

[untold island]

Catalyst just spam iron lung with red eclipse and creeping death

Easy 🤣 yet effective

[cerulean smelt]

catalyst has a range limit.....

[coral reef]

yeah but i found Refactor shines on Master or Legendary group missions, tried a couple last night

so for that scenario, im keeping the chest

its a combat healer, im so happy to have "discovered" the gearset

[smoky latch]

Don't forget the current overdrive mini event thing that has been running for the past two days and ends with today's reset. That'll be gone tomorrow

[burnt bone]

Can we see a picture of it :))

[coral reef]

im only worried about the skills cooldown, gonna have to swap those protection from elites mods lol

[cerulean smelt]

i can log in and send you a picture of one i'm still working on 😹

[smoky latch]

But in general, Refactor is great for heals in higher difficulties

[dire garden]

why cant i optimize this stat?

[cerulean smelt]

somone hasn't been extracting attributes.....

[slim coral]

Redline Overdrive will be cool

[cerulean smelt]

@dire gardennaughty naughty

[untold island]

Sure

[burnt bone]

I believe you can only optimize up to the stored value in your library

It appears that you haven’t extracted crit damage from a backpack yet

[dire garden]

goat

[untold island]

I don’t have maxed health yet I can fully—- wait I have something’s that aren’t maxed that I can’t max although I have the resources for it to be maxed out… what the helly🤨🤨🤨

[worn imp]

How do I know Im at max stacks for Bittersweet??

[burnt bone]

What

[untold island]

@burnt bone logging in now!!!

[flint arch]

if you're referring to optimization, you can't optimize a stat beyond the max value you have stored in your library

if I have 11.2% chd in my library, the max I can optimize a chd stat is 11.2%

[untold island]

I don’t have health fully optimized and I can max it out…. Is it for certain pieces?? Like a chest having full health in library, but I don’t have a kneepad with full health i can’t max it??

Yee?

[flint arch]

each piece of gear is separate

[burnt bone]

Probably shows stacks on the gun

[untold island]

Oh damn

[burnt bone]

You have to extract attributes for each armor type

[flint arch]

the library differentiates between all weapon and armor types for a reason

[untold island]

Just when I think Im a step ahead of the curb…

[lament reef]

that whole thing actually fills out pretty quickly with some countdown

expertise, though…… you’ll be in the trenches for a while

[cerulean smelt]

and we still get people "how can i do this faster?"

[untold island]

Every time I do countdown, I be getting matched with ppl that have no sense of direction, always wanna do the engineer, and throws turrets at the hunters like they can’t hack the damn thing and kill us 😒😒😒

[lament reef]

well we do actually have a proficiency event coming soon

[untold island]

Kenly College 🤣🤣🤣

<— what’s this mean?

Damn I done told @burnt bone I was logging in and I’m here rolling up 🔥 🍃 💨🤣🤣🤣

[burnt bone]

Are you doing challenging?

[burnt bone]

It’s

[untold island]

Heroic

[burnt bone]

Do challenging

[untold island]

Same results???

[burnt bone]

Basically

[untold island]

Or better ppl

[burnt bone]

Heroic is much harder for no real gain

[inner sand]

any suggestions to change?

[cerulean smelt]

you don't want to hear it

[burnt bone]

Probably, I imagine many of the people you find in heroic are there because they don’t realize challenging is typically the better option

[cerulean smelt]

first thing. get rid of ninja bike backpack. if you don't want to then you're out of our help

[burnt bone]

And also aren’t ready for the difficulty jump to heroic

[cerulean smelt]

nah, they want the slightly more Requisitions 😹

[burnt bone]

Trvke

[inner sand]

i mean, its the main point of the build the backpack

[untold island]

NB has other utilities. Your build doesn’t really need it per say

[cerulean smelt]

then you're beyond help 😹

[burnt bone]

They’re saying it’s a bad point

[flint arch]

No balls

[inner sand]

the idea is to stack the max possible rifle damage

[flint arch]

you get a lot more value from a vigilance backpack

and overdogs iirc?

[lament reef]

universal weapon damage boosts rifle damage too

[burnt bone]

Yeah but you’re going about it the wrong way

[flint arch]

losing the BP talent is a huge loss

[cerulean smelt]

what you're going for is all additive damage

[flint arch]

no gear set or brand set effect can make up for it

[burnt bone]

Stacking as much rifle damage as possible is ultimately less effective than diversifying your damage bonuses, because of how damage is calculated

[cerulean smelt]

someone can go 5 piece high end with like memento and probably do leagues more damage you'll ever attain

[flint arch]

there are extremely niche cases where nbb could work, but it's either for PVP or is a less optimal build for PVE

[cerulean smelt]

or even better. stick tinkerer mask and double rifle talent will reach higher than your build

[flint arch]

otherwise, you are just handicapping yourself

[burnt bone]

Who has the damage calc graphic

[cerulean smelt]

assume you're asking for the one that shows the fomula with TWD/AWD and other things?

[burnt bone]

Ya

[cerulean smelt]

i searched for mrchow but nothing came up

[burnt bone]

I think chow was still playing around with it

[slim sorrel]

does the overdogs gloves drop from doing countdown ?

[burnt bone]

Yeah if you target gloves

[cerulean smelt]

or retaliations

[little smelt]

any advice on getting the regulus as a returning player, i decided to start fresh and it’s a pain to find groups for it

[burnt bone]

Try in #lfg-raid-pc or the GCrock discord

[flint arch]

google GCROCK discord, you'll find plenty of raid groups

[burnt bone]

Or whatever his name is (we can’t link it, google)

[inner sand]

better?

[little smelt]

GC seems to be primarily for DH rn

[inner sand]

ops, forgot to change gloves

[flint arch]

stash the merciless, it's a bad rifle

[little smelt]

can’t find a IH for the life of me

[inner sand]

nah im good

[flint arch]

1886 will work much better

[flint arch]

it has really low base damage and the talent is not that great overall

[slim sorrel]

i must be an unlucky sob done so many CD with gloves targets and not one exotic lol

[cerulean smelt]

you gotta discord to find a group for it. we usually suggest GCRock discord

[frail jolt]

I love Realism mode, I wonder, if there's already a cosmetic with nods that flip, a night vision filter would handy, New York is dark asf

[inner sand]

i not that meta slave bro, i think its a fun gun with ok damage so why not

[flint arch]

it's always the fun argument

[cerulean smelt]

just cosmetical whre you have it but you get no night vision at all

[burnt bone]

Prob smth like this, but whatever rifle you want

[inner sand]

you play games for what then 😭

[burnt bone]

There’s a lot of gloves 😞

[frail jolt]

That's why I said and filter would come handy

[flint arch]

im saying i've seen this before, and it's always the people running 4pc Foundry Bulwark in legendary and actively dragging the entire group down

[cerulean smelt]

i'm sure people gave feedback for it, but devs has not plans to do such thing. people also want stealth play into the game as well

[burnt bone]

Unrelated, but have you tried a 1886 with determined yet 👀 infinite headshots without needing to aim

[little smelt]

you need hella headshot modifiers tho for that level, unless you’re playing lower difficulties

[cerulean smelt]

[frail jolt]

It was an idea during TD1 development

[inner sand]

i know that build, but i want to play merciless or some auto rifle

[little smelt]

but i’ve been running it and seeing 30mil pop is sexy

[burnt bone]

Wdym? You just need standard rifle build things

[cerulean smelt]

you and small handful are probably the only ones who want this kind of gameplay in division

[burnt bone]

Are you still focusing on landing headshots

[inner sand]

not really, more weapon damage or crit damage

[little smelt]

if you’re going into higher level countdowns and legendary difficulty anything, you’ll not be doing the 20mil with the 1886 you’ll be hitting primarily around 15-18 and that won’t one shot most enemies atp

[frail jolt]

Realism mode is very different, if implemented to it, the gameplay is different

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, but it's temp for now. 27th rolls around realism won't exist

[burnt bone]

Oh uhhhh then ignore the picture I sent

[inner sand]

i saw the pic you sent, but im not making a 1886 build

[frail jolt]

That's your idea

[burnt bone]

Yeah that’s not just for 1886

[cerulean smelt]

where ever you're getting your news they lied to. the 10th anniversary said realism is temporary, but can make it back later

[burnt bone]

It’s for clicking on heads with rifles

[frail jolt]

Exactly

[little smelt]

they gotta make it permanent fr it’s so much fun

[burnt bone]

Idk what you want to build if you’re doing a more body shot focused setup

Maybe stacking weapon damage is the strat

[cerulean smelt]

so far, as we know unless they come out this week or next. the realism mode will disappear on the 27th

[frail jolt]

At a dead sprint

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1VZoGXEa650cTMqbzYwIMBlKqLpcZxL7iAiDpPjt1QQw/edit?usp=drivesdk maybe this

[frail jolt]

Or with a UIC15

[inner sand]

doing this with the exotic glove forgor the name

maybe i replace the merciless in the end, idk, i want to play it a bit more

[ruby sierra]

could anyone help me out a bit i just came back and need help making a weapon damage build

[cerulean smelt]

pins upper right hand corner

[cerulean smelt]

about one of the reasons people used merciless fore was direct health explosion damage. so like warhounds and chungas would get deleted by it, but got patched so now it's not as great now a days

[twilit geyser]

What is the actual best refractor build

[elfin fractal]

Q about this one, can i just get myself killed after looting?

[cerulean smelt]

i don't play refactor so have to wait on someone who does

[coral reef]

depends! we have been discussing it earlier today

[inner sand]

well, thanks for the help, ill change some stuffs on the build base on what ppl said here

[coral reef]

are you going for max skill damage or group heals support? master/legendary content or just solo heroic?

[cerulean smelt]

someone mentioned using Overdogs with refactor for some oomph

[twilit geyser]

Hmmm correct me if I’m wrong please. Don’t the heals scale off your skill damage or is it something else?

[coral reef]

thats exactly it, yes.

[cerulean smelt]

skill damage definitely, plus if you in group you do the empathic resolve you power up your team slightly

[twilit geyser]

Hmmm I guess I would want max skill damage I possibly can get then since it scales off that. Got any ideas?

[cerulean smelt]

unless you want to nerf yourself with like ninja bike with 2 empress. which would be bad in general. i've got no clue honestly

[coral reef]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit

[coral reef]

stop recommending bad shit lmao 🙏

[cerulean smelt]

just know right now we got a tech overdrive for 24 hours still so what you make might see a slight decrease in damage tomorrow sometime

[cerulean smelt]

sorry, my mind went to 3 piece empress right away and was like wait refactor can't use all 3 😹

[lament reef]

skill damage is also affected by universal amps like glass cannon

[twilit geyser]

Nice I actually have all those things besides the refractor set itself. Time to grind.

[onyx sage]

i love refractor

[lament reef]

refactor is a little painful because it drops mixed blue and yellow core

[cerulean smelt]

i wanted to but it felt too wonky to use for my play style

[twilit geyser]

The concept of it is really cool

[coral reef]

I just "discovered" it recently and it inmediately became one of my favorites

[lament reef]

gotta sweat for it a little bit

[onyx sage]

the joke is it's spelled refactor

[lament reef]

not nearly as bad as like unicorn lengmo though

[twilit geyser]

I still haven’t found a damage set i personally like sadly

[cerulean smelt]

that was semi fun grinding though! 🤮

[twilit geyser]

I do wanna try out that catalyst mask with a blue screen though

[onyx sage]

you only need to hard grind 2 pieces for refactor, and they're gear set pieces

[cerulean smelt]

knock yourself out. catalyst has a close range limit FYI

[onyx sage]

lengmo is on another level

[twilit geyser]

So far negotiators has been the most fun for me. I tend to like a lot of crowd control or things that can deal with groups easily

[coral reef]

yeah negotiators with bluescreen is amazing in legendary content

[twilit geyser]

Ran it in a master mission earlier. Chefs kiss 🤌

[onyx sage]

it's one of the best gear sets ever

[cerulean smelt]

careful with builds until monday. upclose damage is increased by 200%

[onyx sage]

not enough people use it

[coral reef]

better than striker for me (hot take)

[onyx sage]

not a hot take tbh

[lament reef]

lukewarm, perhaps even cold

[twilit geyser]

Ngl unless it’s some super hard content or something I’m trying to just get done the most efficient way like raid or something. I just act like striker doesn’t exist. That set is boring af imo

[burnt bone]

Tbh I don’t use negotiators enough

[lament reef]

what if you could do max striker stack damage to 3 targets at once and even transfer overdog’s amp?

[burnt bone]

How would you do that

[lament reef]

so there’s this gearset called negotiators

[burnt bone]

Aren’t you just doing regular damage but to 3 targets

Well +a bit from backpack

[cerulean smelt]

112% crit transfers

[burnt bone]

Yeah I wouldn’t call 1.12x stronger hits “max striker stack damage”

[coral reef]

this thing wil be over in less than 24 hours

[cerulean smelt]

uh, no the assault GE is a week long. the tech overdive leaves in less than 24 hours

[coral reef]

oh you're right

[lament reef]

okay so i was exaggerating a little but the overdog thing is real

mark chungus and then shoot low tiers

[burnt bone]

Ohh that’s why I wasn’t using negotiators as much

I was waiting to get overdogs haha

[cerulean smelt]

i don't like to worry about what tiers i need to shoot. i just like to point gun and shoot at whatever 😹

[burnt bone]

I’ve been using coyote mask but I might just swap to contractors gloves until the dogs bless me

[little smelt]

been playing hella RE requiem and wondering what you guys think (gun wise) would fit a leon kennedy build any ideas are appreciated

main thought was a strong pistol build but I’d still need primaries

[kindred coral]

looking to grab a chameleon and havent had much luck yet, anyone know a good method to get one?

[hazy steeple]

@kindred coral Bounty Named Enemies have a high chance to drop one, regardless of Targeted Loot.
just farm them and you'll get a dozen by the end of the week.

[cerulean smelt]

priority objectives that offers exotic reward/countdown with AR target, buying an exotic cache every 2ish runs, global event buying exotic caches good luck

[lament reef]

headhunter regulus for sure

[little smelt]

kinda figured getting the regulus again is the only struggle fr

[kindred coral]

thamk

[kindred coral]

also ty, is it just me btw or has everyone recently been failing countdown? haven't had a successful one all day

[coral reef]

tons of new players rushing to countdown

[little smelt]

i’ve been noticing I have to carry far more recently, seems like everyone just runs straight for the enemies face first lmao

[subtle bluff]

It is very very underwhelming.

[cerulean smelt]

i don't run countdown. i do retaliations 😻

[kindred coral]

for me i've been massively suffering with everyone missing the timer by 1-2 enemies every single time or everyone blobbing together

[solar sable]

I'm starting to think about abandoning Countdown for my own sake... but my ego is telling me I can guide a group of 7 newbies easily with PGC

[hazy steeple]

If you're running Heroic Countdown, you can expect a fair few failures.

Challenging Countdown should be a much lower rate.

[lament reef]

the equilibrium is off

new player to vet ratio is such that it is approaching uncarryable

[little smelt]

there’s very little reason to do heroic, challenging is the same loot pool

[flint arch]

@solar sable I've grown a new unhealthy relationship with PVGC Striker and I blame you for throwing me down this rabbit hole

[hazy steeple]

@little smelt Correct!

[kindred coral]

fair been doing heroic, will try challenging, same amount of credits right?

[cerulean smelt]

we all know you love it 😹

[solar sable]

less but more rewarding tbh

[little smelt]

that’s the only difference less, but you can finish faster

[lament reef]

heroic is like 50% harder for 10% more reward

[cerulean smelt]

slightly less requisitions but you'll probably won't fail as much

[hazy steeple]

Basically, Heroic gets you better stuff, but not so much better that it's worth the extended effort+time taken.
Countdown is all about blitzing through and doing another run.

[flint arch]

it's more painful to play but now my ego won't accept a Striker icon without the vigilance icon beside it

[kindred coral]

also, i love the exodus gloves idgaf what anyone else says i have one with a godroll perfect on all additional stats and cores, and running it makes me feel all giddy like im a hunter whenever my armour breaks (glass cannon build)

[hazy steeple]

2-3 runs of Challenging Countdown will still let you afford an Exotic Cache.

[kindred coral]

hunters are like tanks, they have integrated smoke launchers when they feel threatened

[kindred coral]

will try looking at bounties since i havent done any, additionally i love how the chameleon looks, only downside in my opinion is it not having a foregrip

though paired with the exodus gloves it should be great since every time i lose my armour and smoke bomb, i'm removed from all combat for 3 secs which also resets the chameleons effect meaning (hopefully) with my build massive dps

btw whats the ammo capacity on it? wiki says the regular ammount of the vector sbr, and i dont believe thats true since its got a large box on it

[flint arch]

I feel like having to health gate yourself every 20 seconds doesn't seem very optimal

[little smelt]

it’s regular amount

[flint arch]

Also, the Chameleon may be classified as an AR, but its range and accuracy sucks like a submachine gun

Actually, not like a submachine gun, it is still one

[kindred coral]

whar dafuq

[subtle bluff]

Stop using wiki. It's not correctly up to date with everything too.

[little smelt]

It’s a high tier gun fs, but it’s accuracy and range lacks from other ar’s

but close range it’s better than 90% of smg’s

[kindred coral]

you sure? seen people run it with a mag capacity of around 70

also, love the exotic icon & beacon whenever an exotic drops, gets me so excited

[cerulean smelt]

for your sake i sure hope the devs runs April Fool's again 😹

[solar sable]

can't wait to get my Regular

[kindred coral]

oh no what did they do

[smoky latch]

I'll keep one of each

If it returns

[solar sable]

da' Lil' Horn

[little smelt]

not sure than but mine only has I believe 30 something

[cerulean smelt]

me too

[coral reef]

they have "troll" vesrsion of the most coveted weapons

[kindred coral]

wh

[coral reef]

imagine getting killed in conflict/dz with someone using the littlehorn

[little smelt]

nvm it’s 50

[hazy steeple]

You actually can't equip them, but god I wish you could.

I so want to use the Momento.

[little smelt]

but the 70 I believe comes from the SHD upgrades likely

[solar sable]

nah, watch gives Stability, Ammo Capacity, Accuracy and Reload Speed

[cerulean smelt]

i kept pressing someone. Moment teh april fool's joke exotic? but they kept spelling it momento

[little smelt]

oh yea forgot capacity isn’t mag

[hazy steeple]

The actual Exotic is "Memento", as in, something you keep as a reminder. Like a trophy.
The joke one is "Momento", because people constantly spell it wrong.

[cerulean smelt]

i enjoyed the raging tears players were having getting the exotics honestly

[hazy steeple]

I mean, you could break them down for free Exo Comps. Honestly a good deal.

[solar sable]

Youtubers are at fault

[cerulean smelt]

right?! but people "OMG Devs turn this 💩 off!"

had to tell people. chill we haven't had any april fool's event before. just enjoy it and break it all down to free easy exotics

[subtle bluff]

I wish I could use it.

[hazy steeple]

The fact that the mainly PvP exotic was the "little horn" is an amazingly subtle joke.

[coral reef]

yo mr chow you like Refactor set?

[subtle bluff]

Yes??

[coral reef]

for group play (legendary/master) missions, would you go with the Refactor chest or Hana U with Kinetic momentum? Backpack is Force Multiplier

Do you think the extra damage compensate for the lesser heals? thats the question

[subtle bluff]

Here’s my answer

[junior lagoon]

if you want the damage in your build you can use the new impetus for hana u chest piece

[misty walrus]

my refractor setup, bp is FM, chest is KM

[coral reef]

thanks yall, time to read!

[misty walrus]

tbh i kinda hate any drone/turret builder without using refractor

[dawn perch]

Which set people are using with the new lmg?

Just curious

[misty walrus]

im running tipping with equaliser n overdog

[cerulean smelt]

i stuck mine on TIpping Scales

[dawn perch]

No classic high end drone/turret build? I guess

[cerulean smelt]

i got one but it's not fun farming 😹

[vital lake]

whats a good build for a new player ? to bea ble to clear incursions and raids

[cerulean smelt]

as we always tell fresh 40's strikers is a good start

[coral reef]

even moreso if the goal is to head to incursions and raids

[cerulean smelt]

strikers is a minimum. don't have it they'll tell you go farm for it then get back to us

[dawn perch]

So far performance was really nice on both tipping and striker but i have one problem. Ammo. Everything is dead but it eats so much ammo

[solar sable]

4pc Strikers, Ceska Oblit and Coyote's is an all rounder, accepted by many Raid Teachers as a FTC

[cerulean smelt]

i imaigne overdogs is an alternative as well?

[solar sable]

maybe, maybe not, I haven't done raids since last year

[cerulean smelt]

<-too long ago 😹

i'd screw up in Dark Hours honestly 😹

[dawn perch]

Anyone have a solution to the ammo consumption rate for solo? On big al

[hexed steppe]

More damage

[cerulean smelt]

gunner kind of helps alleviate that issue

[solar sable]

I mean that's the issue with high RPM weapons lmao

[hexed steppe]

Use less amount of ammo to kill things

[hexed steppe]

How many blue cores are you running

[vernal wing]

Have a secondary to deal with smaller enemies

[cerulean smelt]

5 or 6 i imagine

[dawn perch]

0 Bro i on leggy

[hexed steppe]

Talents/build

[cerulean smelt]

leggy is just bullet sponges in general really. that's what makes it harder 😹

[smoky latch]

Big Al is hungry, can't avoid that

[hexed steppe]

This is the info needed to help you

[solar sable]

hungry boi

[dawn perch]

Same as everyone else. It would tipping scales or striker with either overdogs or exodus gloves or centurion sab

[solar sable]

no wonder he is Big Al

[cerulean smelt]

i'm waiting until april to give it another whirl honestly. these 200% damage increases kind of makes it hard to gauge how it fares

[hexed steppe]

Start your stack with a different weapon and switch to Al when itll be getting max damage

[cerulean smelt]

granted yes i can turn it off, but i need stars. lots and lots of stars 😹 my 1 piece sys corr isn't going to drop in my lap 😹

[smoky latch]

The return of HazPro Backfire all blue

[cerulean smelt]

thats next week or the last week of the month

[coral reef]

you guys make fun of that but the thing actually works lol

[smoky latch]

I know it works well with modifiers/GEs

[solar sable]

shhhh... silence. I run GC with Backfire all red.

[cerulean smelt]

we know, but it works even better without haz pro in build at all

[dawn perch]

I run that on leggy if i want do tank/healer build. But what i have is dps build.

[coral reef]

yeah, you taught me here to use it with CHD secondary

[dawn perch]

Suggestions?

[cerulean smelt]

good majority of players have issues where they don't do damage. we find out they run 1-6 armor cores but don't understand that it nerfs their damage

[hexed steppe]

We also dont know the crit... would be a lot easier to determine issues if a ss of build and stats were provided

Kinda wonder why that wasnt step 1

[smoky latch]

LMG/AR goes well

[dawn perch]

I stop needing to do that as exodus glove are amazing for suriving.

[hexed steppe]

Is big al talent based on being in combat at all?

[cerulean smelt]

being in cover

[dawn perch]

Got a weapon suggestion for that?

[smoky latch]

I sometimes almost run out of ammo in Retaliations using Al with a full red build, it just needs a lot of ammo

[hexed steppe]

Ar for tipping, ar or acs for striker

[cerulean smelt]

anything works. pistol, even a named nerf gun called Cooler that shoots infinite water

[hexed steppe]

Ar good secondary choice since it is strong and has a good reserve of ammo

Lex or whatever you fancy

[dawn perch]

Stares at my weapons and gear stock pile

[vernal wing]

Any ACS12 or high RPM Submachine gun with strained/optimist

[smoky latch]

Police M4 or Carbine 7 if you don't have a Lexington

[dawn perch]

Am i seriously thinking about cooler

[dawn perch]

I have 4 of the lex lmao

[hexed steppe]

cooler would work for tipping, but you wouldnt actually have a usable secondary and would need to quick swap if you ran out of ammo

[dawn perch]

Funnt enough my sniper build has one blue core technically but i am using sawyer knee pads. But still hate using it though.

[hexed steppe]

yeah you can dogs that

wont be limited to standing still all the time

[dawn perch]

I am thinking about somehow using turmoil on it but i really wish it was not so HS based.

If you 4 man, it become more difficult to use.

[hexed steppe]

thats easy since you dont need 4pc anything for a sniper setup

[cerulean smelt]

it'll still work, just probably need 1 or 2 more extra headshots to start the headhunter stacks

[dawn perch]

How much damage does it do? How well it handles rather?

[hexed steppe]

just replace fox with turmoil

[dawn perch]

Oh it uses determined... yeah that talent both a blessing and a curse.

Still i would still take this

[hexed steppe]

normally its streamlined

i needed quick headshots for something and got lazy

what weapon you normally use, and talent for mmr

[dawn perch]

Is shroud a good sniper, i have really not used it

[dawn perch]

White death or 1886

[cerulean smelt]

if you like overdogs, but top to bottom tier

[hexed steppe]

streamlined 1886 is in the 35 range

[hexed steppe]

it is. very strong

[dawn perch]

Interesting and no headshot dmg needed?

[hexed steppe]

thats 35mil with turmoil btw

[slim coral]

Is this workable? (I've had trouble with survivability a bit)

[slim coral]

Got around 57% CHC and 108% CHD

[dawn perch]

So you just hit head there

[hexed steppe]

ofc

[hexed steppe]

yes, as you round out your watch an gear , your chd will come up

[dawn perch]

I was hoping there body shot version (that is not determined but that looks good too)

[hexed steppe]

keep the chc around 57 like it is and as you make gains adjust things to bring the chd up

[hexed steppe]

determined is the only body shot version

[slim coral]

Kk, I've been running 4p Striker and 2p UA, gonna see how 4p Striker, 1p UA and Memento feels.

[dawn perch]

Fs.... i just hated chasing and managing deterimined.

[cerulean smelt]

the trophy pick up gives you some survivablity, but the real good part is the 5 minute timer on passive buffs

[hexed steppe]

memento is a nice bag. i would drop the pulse and use a damage skill like striker drone since itll benefit a lot from memento talent

[slim coral]

Yeh, it's gonna be nice to get some armor regen and wp dmg for sure

[cerulean smelt]

skill efficiency is great too. just be aware in less than 24 hours your skills will drop a bit

[vernal wing]

Really liking striker with Dogs & Salvo

[hexed steppe]

yeah, it sucks. you would probably like mantis mmr, tbh. its got good qol talent with the decoy interaction

[cerulean smelt]

wet got an event Skill Overdrive running right now that nets you 3 skill tiers and several skill buffs

[slim coral]

Yeh but I'm a returning player so I just started playing again. The only exotic I had before this was like Mosquito

[slim coral]

I have it incase of warhounds and what not 🙂

[hexed steppe]

oh, is it jammer?

[burnt bone]

Wdym manage determined, you just get one headshot and then one shot everyone :)

[slim coral]

Yes

I can't reliable use the shield yet so I have this as a changeable skill

[hexed steppe]

memento will increase its damage and duration and lower its cooldown

[dawn perch]

Helmets and group play makes the usability significantly worse.

[cerulean smelt]

yout hit a helmeted npc you lose determined

[hexed steppe]

30% skill efficiency is 30% in all Skill Buckets™

[dawn perch]

Maintaining determined become harder as you increase party size as well.

[hexed steppe]

memento is 2 free shield tiers , + shield health from skill efficiency

[slim coral]

True!

[hexed steppe]

-# i feel there is a copy pasta incoming

[slim coral]

I'll probably do some content to get used to it

[cerulean smelt]

mmm, pasta

[dawn perch]

What the build around that?

[hexed steppe]

Memento is the hardest working single piece in the game.

For me, I look at all it does. Cores and long buff only (at full stacks) represent:

• 45% weapon damage
• 2 shield tiers
• • free armor and skill core
• 30% skill damage
• 30% status effects
• 30% skill duration
• 30% skill health
• 30% skill haste
• 30% skill repair
  -# skill buckets™️
• 3% armor regen

Short buff adds core dependent buff and are a nice bonus but dont factor in to my reasoning for usage because its inconsistent unless always cqb when killing.

[hexed steppe]

replace shroud with mantis in the build i posted above

when yall are ready to get serious, you build something like this

[dawn perch]

That a pure skill build? High end?

[cerulean smelt]

gasps you monster!

<-not as cool as Localdeck, but i got a 3 empress, 2 grupo and 1 named china light backpack build for mortars and seeker mines. i've had luck getting Skilled talent proccing so it feels like infinite seekers to me 😹

[hexed steppe]

Yes, its part of my daily mortar propaganda

[dawn perch]

Kek. Although i might make hardwire build for just the demolisher firefly because screw drone users and grenadiers

[flint arch]

i will not accept your mortar propaganda

[dawn perch]

Is there any piece that increases accuracy by any chance?

[cerulean smelt]

spot on holster (named) gives accuracy. 1 piece gives accuracy as well

[dawn perch]

Any others?

[cerulean smelt]

planty of others, but probably 2 and 3 pieces for more accuracy

[mint axle]

Eagle grasp has 15% weapon handling

[cerulean smelt]

in this channel. there's a pin section with a guide. you go through it for brandsets/gearsets/named/exotics you'll find all kinds of things with bonuses

[lament reef]

it’s morbing time

[smoky latch]

Mortarganda

[lament reef]

i would morb but i dont have all spawns memorized

[coral reef]

I tried the mortar thing and is great... UNTIL a chunga shows up

then it starts shooting kisses

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure local decimates them with his build. i have to deply my mortar a few extra times 😹

[coral reef]

Local is not a normal player

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i just jump in his walkers basket and get carried

[civic meteor]

Trying to get the equalizer

I finally got it after a day of grinding and it doesn’t have crit chance and crit damage

[cerulean smelt]

Welcome to div 2

[civic meteor]

[lament reef]

now imagine if it wasn’t named and you needed it to have the right perk too

[tropic moat]

anyone have a nice pestillence build? 😄

[civic meteor]

How do I increase my expertise level?

[cerulean smelt]

define nice

[tropic moat]

i dunno xD

[cerulean smelt]

think there's a build that hits hard but it's an extreme grind getting the pieces for it in the build hub spreadsheet

[coral reef]

yes

[coral reef]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?tab=t.0

[tropic moat]

ahh, alright. just wanna try something different that striker st. elmo and pestillence was fun last time i used it

[coral reef]

pestilence with a good build is the BEST. Way better than Striker Elmo

[cerulean smelt]

Pestilience with Ambush Global event was great 🤤

[copper yarrow]

If I shoot a sticky EMP on a chunga, will it disable their heal/bleed hive?

[cerulean smelt]

don't think so

[smoky latch]

Since they're elites any status effect will wear off rather quick anyway

[cerulean smelt]

read recently White Tusks has 25% haz pro to them

[smoky latch]

IDK about numbers

[subtle bluff]

yes

it like any other skill it comes back

[lone perch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1VZoGXEa650cTMqbzYwIMBlKqLpcZxL7iAiDpPjt1QQw/edit these good?

[subtle bluff]

All iKia builds have a purpose if it unclear to you, it’s not good for you.

[lone perch]

oki

[burnt bone]

Does it have one of them

[cerulean smelt]

probably headshot and health 😹

[civic meteor]

No

[vernal wing]

Look into Hunters Fury builds

[hexed steppe]

The hive keeps them busy while you pummel them. Then you oc and you set out another hive an mortar

[topaz slate]

Is it hard to get the named pistol for movement speed?

[hexed steppe]

Mortar supremacy built like it is for a reason
🔥 😎 🔥

[flint arch]

mortar

[vernal wing]

Type in central chat
“LF Bloody Houndsman bounties”

[burnt bone]

Ask for someone with the houndsman bounty in #lfg-pc

[robust yarrow]

Does anybody have tailgate spreadsheet of the best builds?

[flint arch]

#td2-build-advice message

all the builds you'll ever need is in there

[topaz slate]

Thanks Donky and Goyim

[smoky latch]

And here

[foggy imp]

For coco is it worth running the chest for legendary content

[steep shadow]

to guys im trying to make a solo pve build for heroic whats the golden crit damage/chance I should chase

[flint arch]

#td2-build-advice message

[jolly sapphire]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uC1ZYSegDfj5s9hrkZJUo7Z4FeMTjgKgZ1L6MqVj_Kg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pz36nbhqgtqb whats this build good for?

[gusty nacelle]

Whats good build for current event?

[topaz slate]

How can I make my armors / gears to be 2 slots for the attributes?

[buoyant perch]

Gearset only has one attribute
But you can put mods on chest, bp, mask

[topaz slate]

i see, thanks for the clarification

[junior lagoon]

i am using a 80 percent pfe build against the hunters in summit but they one shot me how is that possible

[subtle bluff]

I've always said Bullets hurt

the idea isn't to tank them.

[zenith plover]

can someone lmk any adjustments to my build i need? (all stats max)
Mask: Heartbreaker w armor/crit chance/crit damage
Backpack: Memento w weapon damage/armor/skill tier/crit damage
Chest: Closer w armor/crit chance/crit damage x2
Gloves: Heartbreaker w armor/crit chance
Knee pads: Heartbreaker w weapon damage/crit chance
Holster: Heartbreaker w weapon damage/crit chance
Weapons: Undecided

[tall jackal]

I'd really say go with a different build if you aren't going to be running the HB Chest.

[subtle bluff]

Add HB Chest and a then a Ceska

Weapon is anything above +800 rpm that can have laser pointer with Killer (solo) or flatline/measured

[burnt bone]

They are hunters

[compact glen]

Hey, so I'm a returning player (haven't played since a bit after WoNY) and I got a gunner build squared away for DPS, but I made a new character to play with my friends and I was wondering what specialization to go for if I wanted to sit in the back and heal from a distance. I was thinking of maybe going with Survivalist, using mender seeker and fixer drone while rocking a marksman rifle. Any advice on whether or not that's a good option, or if its even viable?

My main thing is I wanna focus on support & healing, but dealing enough damage so that I'm not dead weight when we get to end game

I was also looking at Technician but idk

[compact glen]

Is this in response to my question? Don't wanna assume.

Okay, is there anything for survivalist?

or is survivalist just not ideal for end game?

[alpine prawn]

I mean I use survivalist to heal in raids and legendary

[subtle bluff]

For what you're asking for not really

If you want to full Support then sure.

[compact glen]

What's your build look like? My whole thing is, I wanna play more of a strategist role. Sit in the back, snipe enemies, send out healing drones where needed.

[subtle bluff]

You can't be good at both

[compact glen]

Oh interesting, shotgun build... You know what, I'm saving this. Might try that one out too if sniping gets boring

[subtle bluff]

It's not a "shotgun" build it's just the weapons that are used. The dmg on this build is nothing

[tall jackal]

Shotgun build?

[compact glen]

Well, not shotgun build, but

[alpine prawn]

quicker than I am lol. They're right tho- this is dedicated healer

[compact glen]

So mender seeker and fixer drone are no good?

[tall jackal]

I mean you can use that but you'll be more effective with reinforcer chems and restorer hive

[compact glen]

So which build is more ideal for Survivalist healer, the healer setup Chow posted, or Flapjack's? Or are they the same?

I haven't touched TD2 in years.

[subtle bluff]

Mender mine is really bad.

[zenith plover]

what attributes on the chest?

[compact glen]

Not really sure what I'm looking at.

[subtle bluff]

Fixer Drone is ok..

[subtle bluff]

Look at the post above that

[subtle bluff]

what SHD are you?

[zenith plover]

i meant, armor or weapon damage for core

[compact glen]

The character I'm on is only like level 4 lmao, but my main is I think.... 20?

Like I said, I didn't do very much after WoNY

[subtle bluff]

Yea don't worry about builds yet. Just play and level up.

Learn the gameplay try everything till your 40. Come back then.

[compact glen]

Well my main is level 40, SHD 20

[zenith plover]

also, what’s a ceska

[junior lagoon]

no? even with the assault bonus ? I thought that would be the perfect opportunity. they have skills, i don't. need to end the battle asap. Also why is Faraday Wall not protecting my shiedl? I swear that skill never works

[smoky latch]

Česká is a gear brand

[compact glen]

Like I said, I did WoNY, and I completed BoB last night. Been farming all day for Striker set, St Elmo's Engine, and getting my tinkering library up

[tall jackal]

Brandset

[subtle bluff]

ok.... I did say SHD not level at first.. But this is in the pinned messages
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing
Go into there look for Starter Guide and follow that for now.

[subtle bluff]

In the build without counting for Memento, put in 2 Red at least.

[compact glen]

I'm not seeing any starter guide

Definitely a big doc of all the info,

[subtle bluff]

Faraday if you read you have to deploy it for it to work.

[subtle bluff]

Search or Find functions.

[compact glen]

unless I'm looking at builds

[subtle bluff]

In the build hub

Sorry forgot that part.

[junior lagoon]

Ok i deploy it but it broken when they activate emp

[compact glen]

Ah I found it.

[subtle bluff]

That's normal with faraday

[junior lagoon]

Then what the heck it is for

[subtle bluff]

Idk if you active solo tbh for f100

[zenith plover]

@subtle bluff

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/UufJuOfC
what weapon(s) n what other changes?

[kindred coral]

ofc after all my complaining i get 2 chameleons on a single countdown

[compact glen]

So, I already know about Countdown, was grinding it all day for Striker set, St Elmo's Engine, as well as targeted loot for specific gear slots. So far, I'm almost done with my Striker Gunner build. Just need a specific pair of exotic gloves, and resources to further optimize my St Elmo's so I can increase DOTOOC

[subtle bluff]

Pretty sure I mentioned it. Above

[subtle bluff]

@zenith plover and add a ACS12 with brazen and a laser pointer

[zenith plover]

is there any exotics that would match this or no? i’m pretty fresh to the game but have a core understanding

[junior lagoon]

What?

[tall jackal]

No unless you can constantly hit heads to apply pulse for Heartbreaker stacks. Since the Linked Laser Pointer pulses enemies allowing you to get stacks for Heartbreaker.

[zenith plover]

so 800+ rpm, linked laser pointer and a ACS12 with brazen n a laser pointer

[junior lagoon]

Flatline could be better

[zenith plover]

the trait right

i’m so lost without extra context lmao

[junior lagoon]

Flatline gives 15 weapon damage to pulsed enemies

[zenith plover]

so it is a trait

ty

[junior lagoon]

Talent

[subtle bluff]

Let me look at something.

Sorry words.. today

[subtle bluff]

Killer is more, Measured and Flatline are about the same

Measure is better if not acs12 stacking

[junior lagoon]

Also not sure but stackbroker may put stacks faster than acs

I remember reading it somewhere

[warped crypt]

for pesti, what's the meta coco or lengmo?

[subtle bluff]

Highly doubt he has it.

[subtle bluff]

Both. One needs stack the other doesn't.

[slender saddle]

You guys know of a good survivability solo Strega build? I’ve been experimenting a ton and haven’t felt quite as tanky as id like.

[compact glen]

On a striker gunner, should I use reviver hive and striker drone, or reviver hive and banshee pulse?

[rich cosmos]

Do you need the reviver

[compact glen]

I mean, its helpful. But I guess I don't "need" it

[slender saddle]

The pulse works on hunters so I tend to
Use it over riot foam

[smoky latch]

If PGC is too much for you then the Equalizer is fine. Need a Groupo Sombra and a Česká piece then

[slender saddle]

I might be able to make that right now

[fickle wyvern]

anyone know a good regulus build

[fickle wyvern]

thanks

[compact glen]

Should I keep the drone and run banshee?

[rich cosmos]

Personally Id recommend decoy instead of drone if you have no skill tiers

[fickle wyvern]

whats the stats for the build with the gun city

[solar sable]

HSD and WH for all three builds

[fickle wyvern]

wh?

[solar sable]

Weapon Handling

[fickle wyvern]

ok

[hexed steppe]

banshee and emp sticky 😎

[worn imp]

Does measured assembly count the user as an "allied agent"?

[subtle bluff]

Yourself?

No

[jolly sapphire]

is equalizer still available?

[smoky latch]

It's a regular named item, not limited to anything

[slate wedge]

i think it does give a skill tier

ass to test because YOU CANNOT TURN THE EVENT OFF

[worn imp]

I tested it with just 2 skill tiers so with the event I had 5. It doesnt count yourself. if it did it would put me up to 6 skill tiers

[slate wedge]

were you in your hives radius?

[rich cosmos]

Yes!

[worn imp]

??? source?

[rich cosmos]

It does in fact count yourself

[worn imp]

ye

[rich cosmos]

Me, using it

[proper ermine]

I can’t survive on legendary difficulty what am i doing wrong?

[worn imp]

how many skill tiers u on beforehand

with the event included?

[rich cosmos]

Idk I no longer use that part of the talent because regardless its not a very good thing on it

[worn imp]

learn the spawns to beat leggos, and absolutely instantly kill drone operators no matter what

[rich cosmos]

The extra skill tiers just makes using your hive really annoying

So I just don’t focus on that part of the talent anymore

[worn imp]

how do u check ur getting an extra skill tier?

u just go into inventory and read or using some other indication?

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[burnt bone]

By yourself?

[subtle bluff]

Yes because it's suppose to be Very hard. Which is funny because it lil easier with all the GE's on.

[slate wedge]

so it does give a skill tier

for some reason i can also overcharge myself tho

never held out the pistol as well

[proper ermine]

Yeah I’m a solo player no one ever wants to play with me I’ve done everything except countdown solo

[worn imp]

ye tried it now and realized i was dumb af and using my smart cover instead of hive lul. too tired i guess

[slate wedge]

smart cover should work too tho

[burnt bone]

How many hours deep are you

[proper ermine]

104

[smoky latch]

Did you - try matchmaking for things?

[burnt bone]

I think on average you’re still quite far off from soloing legendary

[subtle bluff]

You should solo heroics Strongholds first.
but in this you bulid and gameplay need more work.

[proper ermine]

I just need people to play with

[subtle bluff]

There are LFG channel. With only that many hours in you shouldn't be even looking at doing legendary unless you wanting to be carried by others...

[smoky latch]

#lfg-playstation #td2-clan-recruitment

[proper ermine]

Nobody responds to me I’ve been posting quit a lot

[burnt bone]

Well that’s probably where you’re most likely to get a response

[smoky latch]

Can also join a random clan ingame, just seek out

[bold vine]

Can't they just matchmake for the mission though, I just did that earlier and got a full lobby

[burnt bone]

Can you matchmake legendary?

[bold vine]

Yeah

[smoky latch]

Sure

But as Chowi said, it's a bit early for them

[burnt bone]

Oh well then yeah I assumed there was some reason they couldn’t

[subtle bluff]

If wants to be a burden by not being able to do a lot and also bring the scaling.

[burnt bone]

Trvke

Mr chow was I a burden when we did legendary missions 👉👈🥺

[subtle bluff]

Did we do a legendary? I can't remember I remember masters

[zenith plover]

what is stackbroker

[subtle bluff]

A named ACS12 that you can't get atm.

[zenith plover]

i’ve got all the gear pieces i need now, besides the memento

tryna grind the guns n then start optimizing

[subtle bluff]

oh you didn't even have that yet..

[zenith plover]

it’s a cache drop, unless you know a better exotic armor for the build?

[burnt bone]

Oh uhhhh I thought we did but I can’t remember. Dien was asking about all the legendaries and masters I hadn’t done yet

[subtle bluff]

I may have only done master with you

[bold vine]

Any gun recommendations for this build, been testing stuff

[subtle bluff]

You don't need it..

[zenith plover]

what would you use instead then

[subtle bluff]

Use striker to farm.

[stuck heath]

What do we think is the best type of build to go with survivalist, I was thinking of going a very armor centric build with the bulwark armor set

[subtle bluff]

or a BP with vigilance

[zenith plover]

what’s vigilance do

[flint arch]

get rid of pesti, get rid of ninjabike, get rid of striker chest

[subtle bluff]

We don't build around specs.

[bold vine]

What would I swap for tho

[subtle bluff]

Spec add on to a build.

[flint arch]

police m4 with killer/measured, striker bag, equalizer chest, either striker mask or holster

[bold vine]

Ahh okay

[bold vine]

I have all that, just getting into making builds a bit 😅

[stuck heath]

I didn't mean individual specs I just meant more like should I build more around armor, more around skills, around weapons y'know stuff like that

[subtle bluff]

I don't know what you mean exactly.

What SHD are you?

[bold vine]

They mean like skill,armor,dmg build

Pretty sure anyways

[stuck heath]

Yeah

Shd 154

[subtle bluff]

You may want to start with our Starter Guide

it can be found in the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub > Starter Guide

[atomic turtle]

What the heck corrupt it works fine.

[dense roost]

Behold, the John Division build

Excelling at absolutely nothing in particular

I just hit level 40 today and don't have a lot of specific stuff but threw this together for story missions and stuff because having mismatched gear sets annoyed me lmao

[smoky latch]

That's perfectly fine. Now that you are 40 you can make up your mind which playstyle/s you like and farm for builds

[dense roost]

I plan on trying to put together a St. Elmo's build

[smoky latch]

Striker's / Elmo?

[dense roost]

Yeah, seems like a good one to start with lol

[smoky latch]

Ya, good starter and also solid in endgame

[dense roost]

Just need to actually get that gun

[smoky latch]

You already know what you're looking for?

In detail I mean

[dense roost]

I mostly do, been doing research on what gear sets do what since I started playing

[smoky latch]

Challenging Countdown (mostly because you can buy exotic caches at the CD vendor), named item caches and targeted loot in general

[dense roost]

Is heroic not worth it for farming that stuff, did heroic for like 3 hours but no luck

[smoky latch]

Sure it's worth it but you wanna maximize your chances

Global events such as the one we have right now let you earn stars that you can redeem for exotic caches too

[dense roost]

I got pestilence from an exotic cache from the event pass, not what I wanted but wasn't disappointed

[smoky latch]

Good LMG

[dense roost]

What would be a good gear set to go w/that gun

[smoky latch]

Concentrated Company, CoCo in short

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gvv20WAX-qDLNqLj8qQCQjBbQxjz4A0OrzBBYL3hRoc/edit?usp=drivesdk this as well

[dense roost]

Oh goodness there's a google doc lmao

[burnt bone]

Chat they don’t know

[smoky latch]

You don't have to run The Sacrifice chest. As a new player you might be more comfy with the Equalizer chest

[burnt bone]

There’s a spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[smoky latch]

And instead of Overdogs run either Ceska or Groupo Sombra for addition CHC/CHD

[burnt bone]

[smoky latch]

In case you don't know yet, CHC is capped at 60%. Try reaching around 55% CHC with that build and put the rest into CHD

[dense roost]

Chameleon is another AR I saw that looks really cool to me

I'm an AR person lmao

[smoky latch]

It's currently kinda broken and not really good to use

[dense roost]

That's a shame :(

[smoky latch]

Pestilence is fkn A especially solo anyway, might to with that firsg

[dense roost]

Might start doing that, I have the Capacitor as well but need to ascend it to lvl 40 just haven't figured out how

[burnt bone]

Buy reconfigure blueprint from Inaya in White House

[smoky latch]

Visit the blueprint lady Inaya, to be found in the WH next to the crafting table

[burnt bone]

Next to crafting table

[dense roost]

I was at her but didn't see it in her store, only one for pestilence

Unless I was looking for the wrong thing

[smoky latch]

No, right spot. Hm

[burnt bone]

Uhhhhh scroll down maybe

[dense roost]

Lemme log back in rq and look again I may have just missed it

[smoky latch]

It's been so long I don't remember all the details in that stage

[dense roost]

I see all of these

[cursive gull]

would it be a throw to use the CTAR right now with a striker build? kind of getting bored of using the F2000 and want to just use something different

[burnt bone]

All the way down

[dense roost]

This is the bottom of my list

[burnt bone]

Hmmmm look in your crafting table

I think you go to the exotics section and the reconfigure tab is at the bottom of that

[livid sorrel]

it's an AR with SMG stats

[smoky latch]

I don't think you can repeat the Summit challenge. Maybe you need to get it to drop again? IDK

[dense roost]

Doesn't even appear under ARs

[burnt bone]

Pretty sure I could reconfigure mine

[dense roost]

very weird

[burnt bone]

Is that reconfigure or craft

[hexed steppe]

which weapon?

[jovial sigil]

That's the option to craft it not to recalibrate it. Different section

[dense roost]

Craft, is the reconfig not at this table

[hexed steppe]

recon would be backing up and selecting weapon type

[burnt bone]

It is, it’s a different section of the table

Crafting blueprints and reconfigure blueprints are 2 different things

[cursive gull]

Can it be viable to use the CTAR right now with a striker build? kind of getting bored of using the F2000 and famas and want to just use something different

[hexed steppe]

dont select the gem, select the weapon type and youll be able to reconfigure

[burnt bone]

Yeah probably

[smoky latch]

CTAR = FAMAS basically

[jovial sigil]

Should look something like this for reconfig bit

[flint arch]

striker works with any high rpm AR anyways

as long you can handle the accuracy and recoil it works

[smoky latch]

Striker's has 15% intrinsic WH, np

[flint arch]

that too

[dense roost]

I found it, but I don't even see the gun here it's like it's just missing

It's the Capacator you get from the level 35 cache if that makes any difference

[hexed steppe]

go nego if you dont like stacking striker

[flint arch]

that capacitor is junk

it's permanently stuck at level 35 and you can't reconfigure it

[hexed steppe]

did you do the 5 summit challenges?

[dense roost]

OH

[flint arch]

you need to get a new one from summit challenges

[dense roost]

Okay weird

I was trying to up it to level 40 this whole time but good to know I can just do that instead lmao

[flint arch]

the level 35 capacitor is only worth the exotic component you get out of it

[dense roost]

Should I just scrap it then lmao

[flint arch]

yes

[dense roost]

also i’m curious bc of your bio what is quickstep and why should people dm you for it

[flint arch]

makes you run faster

[stuck heath]

Any good exotic ars I should be looking out for as survivalist or should I try for other weapon types?

[flint arch]

the only way to get it is if someone started the houndsman bounty for you

[dense roost]

weird but good to know may take you up on that sometime

[burnt bone]

The Quickstep is a named sidearm that increases your movement speed by 20% while it is equipped. It is only attainable through the houndsman bounty, which you cannot currently get. Ask in your platform-appropriate LFG channel (pc, ps, xbox) for someone who already has a houndsman bounty. Kill the mini warhounds in the bounty area for a chance at the Quickstep.

[hazy steeple]

You can also just check down in #lfg-pc, a lot of folks run the Bounty.

[dense roost]

Is it worth using the exotic slot on, I imagine people just use it as a stat stick

[burnt bone]

Not exotic

[stuck heath]

Is that why I saw a dude running fast AF earlier

[dense roost]

Oh neat

[compact glen]

For a Gunner Striker build, what skill should I carry alongside Banshee?

[dense roost]

Def gonna have to pick that up when I have the time

[hazy steeple]

Decoy is great for that, since it allows you to redirect aggro.

[flint arch]

decoy is a solo player's best friend

[burnt bone]

Revive is an old reliable

[hazy steeple]

Reviver Hive is great when you're new, but after a while you learn not to rely on it.

Decoy you throw it off to the side, let enemies aim at it, and then pour out the damage.

[compact glen]

I'm already rocking decoy so that works. I just need to get mods for it.

[dense roost]

Does the body shield (specifically the light one that lets you use any weapon) make stacking a ton of armor less important if you’re using it in like a striker build for example

Bc I imagine in a build like that you have less room to build bulk

[flint arch]

you're not supposed to stack armor in the first place if you want to do damage

[burnt bone]

You never really want to stack armor

[runic rapids]

@subtle bluff is it worth swapping out technician for demolitionist? is the artillery turret better then the base turret?

[flint arch]

the shield is more of a crutch

as in it gives you a few seconds to notice you're getting shot at and slither back into cover

you cannot facetank with it at skill tier 0

[dense roost]

Do I always want at least a couple of skill tiers or can I dump it if I’m only using skills for utility and not damage

[runic rapids]

you always want a few.

[flint arch]

Ideally, you don't use the shield, instead you use advanced corner peeking tactics to make sure you can still shoot the enemy while the don't have LOS on you

[flint arch]

hybrid builds don't perform the best

[burnt bone]

Most shooty gun builds run only red cores

[dense roost]

I’ve been learning that recently haha

[hazy steeple]

Skill Tiers are only useful if you are going to be actually using the skill as your primary thing, not as an "in case" situation.

You 100% don't "always want a few".

[dense roost]

I’m guessing you can swap around cores or will I need to target farm for the armor I need

[flint arch]

You either want all of them, or none of them

[burnt bone]

Are you level 40

[dense roost]

Yea

[hazy steeple]

For example in your Striker build, ideally you want to go all 6 as red, or at most, a couple of blues, but honestly just go Red, it's faster to learn to prioritise cover and positioning that way.

[flint arch]

recalibrating the core attribute is only done with unicorn pieces

[dense roost]

I’m already starting to drown in high tier loot so I imagine I’ll just kinda happen upon the stuff I need eventually

[hexed steppe]

you can pretty much always have 2 *free skilltiers just using memento and tech class , technically 3 skilltiers if using a shield

[flint arch]

PGC rears its head once again

[hazy steeple]

PGC is an option, but even without it, you still want to learn how to avoid taking damage.

[runic rapids]

i think depending on your build they can help! i play with a few people who have 2 skill teirs! since that means your reviver does 2 revives, and your other skills are all a good deal better!

[flint arch]

keyword is "depending on your build"

[hazy steeple]

@runic rapids If you want a reviver hive with 2 tiers, throw on a Kard TDI.
It's a terrible idea to ruin your build with 2 random skill tiers.

[burnt bone]

The lvl 40 starter guide explains recalibration :) but like others have said you don’t usually touch cores - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[runic rapids]

for sure.

[dense roost]

I liked using the Capacitor with drones and stuff when I used the level 35 cache but it wasn’t as engaging to me bc the drone got so strong that I would cover peak to finish off an enemy and they would already be dead lmao

[flint arch]

nah, throw 'em in the ring with PGC + Vigilance Striker, can't learn how to walk if you don't know how to run

[hexed steppe]

level 35 capacitor will still work fine for a skill build tbh, its the talent you use anyways, not the damage from the weapon itself

[runic rapids]

i love capacitor. its honestly been amazing. the weapons damage doesnt matter but it sure is NICE.

[candid palm]

So I’m trying to be a combat medic and I feel like it’s not working any tips of ideas

[hexed steppe]

now you just need a mortar build 😎

[dense roost]

I was kinda looking for a build that doesn’t excel at anything specifically but can always preform and the St. Elmo’s build I’ve been hearing about seems to fit that so wanted to go for that to have a baseline before I invest in something more specific

[flint arch]

FI Healer build

[burnt bone]

Probably red future initiative - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AOzUVVjg1QTAEVm5Gr04wLir7a7WonsN7DRCJErkU2c/edit?usp=drivesdk

[burnt bone]

It’s not a st Elmo’s build, it’s a strikers build

[flint arch]

isn't red FI only useful in niche situations

[dense roost]

Ah, so the Elmo just fits into it

[runic rapids]

I've been looking at it today! i saw one in use by someone. looked good! the issue is that id lose the 10% damage and skill teir from tech. so id need to swap my cores around. so i had 6 orange cores.

[dense roost]

The talent on the gun has synergy with striker set right bc of the sustained damage perks

[hexed steppe]

elmo fits into most dps setups

[flint arch]

and fun fact, St. Elmo's isn't even BiS for Striker

[burnt bone]

Idk but standard FI prob wouldn’t be described as “combat” medic

[dense roost]

I’ve heard the new LMG is pretty good for it

[flint arch]

the damage difference is slight, but it is technically not the best, and even your crafted police M4 with DTTOC and Killer will perform just as well if not better

[dense roost]

Idek what that gun does tho

[flint arch]

imo Tipping Scales synergizes better with Big Al

[white spade]

can any help with my build

[burnt bone]

Yeah, this is the most bog standard build in the game that can complete basically all content once you learn the ropes - https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=drivesdk

[flint arch]

combat medic just means they're a medic during combat, not a medic engaging in combat

also, under the Geneva Conventions, combat medics are protected under international law, but in return they're not allowed to engage in combat

[burnt bone]

Corrupt what exactly would a medic build not engaging in combat look like in the division 2

[runic rapids]

did you see the boost capacitor gets during the seasonal event btw?

[burnt bone]

Yeah what’s up

[flint arch]

i mean technically they're engaging in combat, but if you're running full FI healer the most you're doing is landing Scorpio and sledge on the enemies

[hazy steeple]

The event is over in 3.5 hours.

[white spade]

iam k9inda new

[smoky latch]

Was a fun event tho

[hazy steeple]

@white spade Welcome!

[flint arch]

gonna need lots of work

[hazy steeple]

Honestly, you're doing better than I did when I was new.

[runic rapids]

noooo. during the event you have 9 effective cores. so you get a 67.5% damage boost. mine hits for 250k+ and ive had it hit 900 on crits 🙁

[flint arch]

here's the level 40 starter guide
and a focused guide on striker, the most reliable DPS option in the game, and the easiest build to make

[hexed steppe]

its not needed tbh, you get the benefit of explosives damage from demo which is a separate modifier to the skill damage. you're actually gaining by swapping specs

[dense roost]

One of the big questioned I have is
Does getting duplicates of exotics, specifically weapons, matter

[white spade]

HELLO

[burnt bone]

Not really

[runic rapids]

nope there static. i just junk any extras

[dense roost]

Good to know, ty

Does exotic armor also have the same cores and stuff along with their talent

[hazy steeple]

@dense roost Make sure you go through the weapons, and keep at least 1 copy of any that have "damage to target out of cover" as the 3rd stat.

[dense roost]

Yeah that seems to be a good one

[flint arch]

characters on your account share the stash, so you can give 1 exotic to each
otherwise, duplicates don't give you anything else other than leeway to reconfigure an exotic piece and an exotic component

[hazy steeple]

Exotic Gear is always static, yeah.

[dense roost]

Okay

[burnt bone]

You can check the core + attributes exotics drop with on the spreadsheet :)

[smoky latch]

@white spade Take a look at this and bookmark it too

[white spade]

holy ngl this all confusing me XD

lol

[smoky latch]

It's a bit much to take in at once, yeah. But no rush, if you have questions just ask

[flint arch]

honestly when i saw ikia's builds i was intimidated by all the maxed stats lol

[burnt bone]

You WILL be quizzed on this later so study up

[runic rapids]

i will miss these numbers when the event ends. the 1.2m+ crits are WILD.

[white spade]

bruh ahhhhhb helll nahhhh

[flint arch]

unrelated but that fov is nauseating

[smoky latch]

That event is still going lol

[white spade]

i think i need this armor cuz it only be showing these

[runic rapids]

i play at 90 on other games but for what ever reason when i up the fov at 4k i get screen ripping

[smoky latch]

Just the mini overdrive event will be gone with reset

[tender whale]

Quick question cause I've never ran it before the breaking point gear set says my "stacks" are based on the mag size of my rifle or sniper is that limit before or after and gear pieces that boost mag size?

[tender whale]

Target strikers
gloves
And the brand that chest is in countdown

[runic rapids]

does this look right?

[hexed steppe]

you dont get an additional benefit from skilltiers over 6 on capacitor. you are probably seeing close range buff from the ge. i just used filler pieces and changed cores from skill to armor

[tender whale]

U don't want the laser pointer from SMG damage isn't it really good?

[white spade]

so i do need all these then cuz iam trying to read it but i really dont undersatnd it

same perks and everything ?

[hexed steppe]

yes

[runic rapids]

refactor build 🙁 so no smgs 🙁

[tender whale]

That is currently one of the top tier builds for big al the new lmg

[white spade]

i have 2 of the big als

[tender whale]

But attachment fits all guns

[runic rapids]

sadly it wont fit my primary or secondary 😛 for obvs reasons

[white spade]

ig iam go on youtube and try to see vids how to get the armro

[tender whale]

In a red core build u want 50 Crit chance and as much Crit damage as u can

[burnt bone]

Oh does mop have no underbarrel

[hexed steppe]

you understand the perpose of using the spec in this case, right?

[runic rapids]

it has long underbarrel. but i fix its low acc with the underbarrel atm.

[tender whale]

I thought demo had the Crit damage attachment never mind

[burnt bone]

I see I see

[runic rapids]

first is with underb with acc.
second is without.

[white spade]

whats a red core?

[burnt bone]

Weapon damage main attribute

[hexed steppe]

ill warn you... mortar takes some practice and youll likely self delete a bit and get the timing wrong at first. it has travel time and can bounce and hit cover if not placed correct

[burnt bone]

Oh lol that thing has some terrible handling

[hexed steppe]

utility weapon, doesnt need handling

[runic rapids]

yeah. improving acc was def the right path haha.

[runic rapids]

i die to my self a lot already haha. so i imagine i wont even notice.

[burnt bone]

Well it prob doesn’t change too much if you’re just holding it right 👀

[hexed steppe]

perfect

eventually ill convert everyone to mortar... one agent at a time

[flint arch]

you'll never get me

[hexed steppe]

every matchmaking group will be shaking the entire time leaving nothing for the determined plebs to hit 😎

[hexed steppe]

i like a challenge 🔥

[hazy steeple]

idk, local's a pretty good shot with a Mortar.

[runic rapids]

wait its an aimmed skill? eww haha

[flint arch]

give me a unicorn sacrifice with skill damage and haste and I will reconsider

[white spade]

dam iam such a noob

[hexed steppe]

i will sacrifice to Lootcifer in your name

[white spade]

i dont even understand the googel doc thing

[tender whale]

So there three main core attributes one gear (the colored circles in the image)
Red cores are DPS stats
Blue cores are armour stats
Yellow cores are skill stats

[flint arch]

goddammit

[hexed steppe]

yeah, but a damn good aimed skill

[flint arch]

I looked at the mortar build and I need unicorn sacrifice and half-unicorn 2pc grupo wtf

[hexed steppe]

use 3 empress, 2 hanna, and china for a first build. easy fopr practice. if like, farm it proper

[runic rapids]

with my aim though?

[hexed steppe]

not the same, trust

[dense roost]

What are some good skills to have as utlity if you're not doing a skill build and are focusing entirely on other stuff, revive hive is probably a given but is anything else noticably impactful on gameplay if skill stuff is your dump stat

[hazy steeple]

I think we already mentioned all red setups+Decoy being a thing.

[dense roost]

Ah yeah might've missed that

[hazy steeple]

No worries, there's a lot of info to take in.

Basically the idea is to use Decoy off to the side but in enemies line of sight, so they aim for that, and then you sneak up and blindside 'em.