td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

it depends.. Stronger for this is kind of mixed.

[lost wren]

what's the use cases for each?

[subtle bluff]

More upfront dmg or HF stuff.

Oh.. You mean those..um.

[lost wren]

i know about HHF, which is used for legendary
i'm asking about high end

high end ik does fall off in leggo especially with teammates

[subtle bluff]

Imo HHF is just better for keeping you going and safer.

I've been doing HHF in full groups.

[lone smelt]

Yeah, you know, cook 'em, mash 'em, put them in a stew>

[tropic burrow]

Guys how do you get od gloves? Ive tried cd yet no drop

This is my current build copied from @hexed steppe

[strong cave]

Make sure you get ODogs gloves if you don't have them already

[strong cave]

Also how to get them, I'd say play retaliation for them. Target faction hyenas and eventually they'll drop the blueprint to craft them

Target loot gloves as well

[peak gyro]

I have a question how do I get the companion

[tropic burrow]

T
@strong cave thanks!

[meager fog]

Turn season modifiers on

[tidal remnant]

Hello, is it still possible for me to farm the overdogs? Sorry i am a returning player.

[peak gyro]

How do I do that

[peak gyro]

Im only level 21 idk if that makes a difference

[meager fog]

Open inventory,

Middle icon on the top row,

Activate seasonal modifier

[peak gyro]

Ok I’ll check it when I get off I appreciate the help

[peak gyro]

I do have one other question how do I obtain the global companion

[meager fog]

There is a tutorial mission, should show up somewhere on the map

[peak gyro]

Ok

[hexed steppe]

should be in east mall

[tropic burrow]

@hexed steppe hey man i copied ur build except for overdogs. Whats the fstest way without retaliatio . Because i run solo and end up killed

[hexed steppe]

are you able to mm for countdown? that would be the next best farm since you can pick the target loot and youll get credits to buy exotic caches. drops are rng

[tropic burrow]

Aah ok appreciate it

[hexed steppe]

i actually copied back a bit of your version for 3pc ua. ngl, 300 rounds on bluescreen is pretty nice

[tropic burrow]

Will if offer more.dps on my lexi build + its @hexed steppe ??

[subtle bluff]

what are you tyring to do in the end here with a build?

[hexed steppe]

Tbh losing foxs definitely lowers burst damage. I think its more of a qol choice over raw min/max choice.
75rnd lex, or 100rnd elmo is pretty solid

[gray coyote]

if i have a lvl 30 weapon and want to change the third attribute, will i lose my expertise levels if i change the third attribute ?

[patent fossil]

Nope

[tropic burrow]

Kill enemies as fsst as i can with no strikers

[subtle bluff]

You would need PGC then

[tropic burrow]

@hexed steppe im not that good in tbis gsmd. Say 1 got 2 elites.whats gonna kill them faster 3 or thr foxs?

@subtle bluff whats that?

Again im only shd 2k and not that knowledgeable

Thanks all

[subtle bluff]

but really OD build would do it a bit easier for you

[subtle bluff]

At first you can have builds that wil but in the end Striker will win.

[subtle bluff]

Should worry less about the small things about the build and learn the gameplay more. There is a point where someone build will be out done by another players skill level.

[tropic burrow]

À@subtle bluff for 5o tkmes i ask i hate striker and u reply the same answer use striker lol

[subtle bluff]

I did not say that.. If you can't take your time to explain yourself better. At least take the time to read.

Idk why you want to hate strikers. You want to be "off meta"?

OD build like I mention beforehand.

[meager fog]

For what reason don't you want to use Strikers. Just curious

Although from your description. KIlling enemies as fast as possible without Strikers. You're looking for Negotiators Dilemma.

[subtle bluff]

Everyone when asked to do more than striker and explained there really isn't in some senses always thinks we're telling them to use strikers...

[meager fog]

Shd level does not determine knowledge, experience or skill.

[solar sable]

so we just assuming or seeing what we want to see?

[onyx sage]

if striker is the easiest way to accomplish what you want, we are going to recommend it, choose not to use it at your own peril

[tropic burrow]

@subtle bluff bro we havd like 50 builds anyone can play anystyle he wants. Besides besides im herd tk het info from vets like @hexed steppe. I appreciate u trying to help regardless

[meager fog]

Lmao....Chow isn't one of the guys that LD gets their information from now 🤣🤣

[subtle bluff]

Again never pointed you to say play strikers....

Regardless I have posted and shown multiple other builds other than strikers

[tropic burrow]

@meager fog i asked a soecific q days ago.what non striker build is besy. This forum is build advice

[subtle bluff]

I have yet to state an opinion about builds, just facts.

[tropic burrow]

All u guys repeat is use strikers img

[meager fog]

I just gave you one......

[tropic burrow]

Thanks

[meager fog]

And Chow gave you a different one....

[subtle bluff]

What are 2 builds have I have posted to here for to you are?

I could be lil offensive with this comment but are you blinded by strikers?

[meager fog]

There are reasons for that.

1. Strikers is the easiest to farm for.

2)its the most versatile

3. its capable of all content.

Those three things mean its the first complete build new or struggling players are recommended to farm.

It makes farming other builds ALOT easier.

[tropic burrow]

@meager fog do u guys understsnd anything im saying. I keep asking whats th best in terms of ttk that js not sttikers and u guys give me an elaborate esssy highlighting the benefits of a build I never asked for

I do appreciate ur advice though and thanks

[meager fog]

You're uneccessarily aggressive.

[subtle bluff]

I'm sorry what?

[tropic burrow]

Omg bro u cant handle a nkrmal converstion come on bro were adults

[subtle bluff]

I send the build you're looking for...

coming from the person that can't slow down to type words properly...

[tropic burrow]

Thanks @subtle bluff fkr the build

[subtle bluff]

This is fastest TTK DPS build with nothing stacks or proc'ed.

Minus killer

[meager fog]

As you keep telling me...Chill 🙂

[subtle bluff]

The same build I posted beforehand...

[tropic burrow]

@meager fog i never said chill lol

[meager fog]

I'm telling him to chill, hence why I tagged him.

[tropic burrow]

@subtle bluff thanks my man. Is it better than @hexed steppe s 2 grupo , od gloves, ewualizier and salvo?

[subtle bluff]

YES...

[tropic burrow]

I mean 1 grupo 2 ceska*

[meager fog]

The lot of us need to step away from this conversation.

You asked for something, you got several answers that gave you what you need.

[tropic burrow]

Ok let thefarming commence

@meager fog ok bro relax ur not the president of this discord werre just talking

[subtle bluff]

Oh that's suppose to be a salvo

This is the highest DPS TTK build without having anything Proc'd.

But once things proc and try going on it will falll behind.

[tropic burrow]

Ok im definetly fafmjng jt now

[solar sable]

Just a reminder, a friendly one, that you don't need to @ everyone you're talking to much less on mobile where you can swipe left on a message to reply to it. Tagging Localdeck or others that much will only get them annoyed. Again, it's a friendly reminder.

[tropic burrow]

Where do i get the gift dz exckusivr?

[meager fog]

Named Caches

[solar sable]

Named caches

[subtle bluff]

You don't need The Gift it's just there.

[tropic burrow]

Thanks

[meager fog]

Any Providence backpack with Vigilance will do

Perfect Vigi just gives a slightly better bonus

[solar sable]

last week's cd vendor had a... nvm it was Weapon Handling and another yellow attribute

[solar sable]

barely noticeable lol

[tropic burrow]

Got it apologies if im new and stupid i really apprecaite ur input.

[meager fog]

Depends on the situations, when a game is as math heavy as this 1% makes a huge difference when multplying by hundreds of thousands

[strong cave]

it changes the cooldown from 4s to 3s is all it does really. finding a habsburg bag with vigi and hsd/handling is a nightmare

[pale wadi]

hi all, I currently am running 3 pc striker with ninja BP, and equalizer+salvo.
I want to change it up so I am not focused on just AR damage,, but overall weapon damage.

Should I stick with strikers and make it 4pc with BP, either keep equalizer or switch to another chest piece with obliterate, and throw in Overdogs? Should I switch it up entirely?

[meager fog]

Remove Ninjabike, it's nerfing your build.

Equaliser is currently best in slot, with overdogs gloves and 4pc strikers

If you want the best outright damage, and have good ability to Headshot. Perfect Glass Cannon will give the most damage in the chest slot.

If not, you can use Ceska Glass Cannon, which will give higher DPS than Equaliser

[small apex]

any good skill builds?

[pale wadi]

ty for advice, I am SHD lvl 10k and never touched another set that wasn't strikers, so this gives me another way to have fun with the build

[subtle bluff]

for what content?

strikers can be played may of ways

[meager fog]

There are alot of fun DPS builds.

Negotiators Dilemma requires a little more brain power than Strikers. But gives the highest DPS potential of any build.

[small apex]

im all round user not pvp

[meager fog]

There are good skill builds in the pins here, take a look at the spreadsheet.

EP buirn is the most versatile, but most skill builds aren't great for solo play. They really shine in groups.

[pale wadi]

would overdogs and same chest pieces be best?

[subtle bluff]

Ok so PvE. I need more context of what you're trying to use it for.

[meager fog]

Overdogs works exceptionally well with Negotiators Dilemma.

You can ignore the tier requirements for the damage amp by marking the higher tier and shooting the lowest.

With Nego, hitting 60% CHC is a must, because your damage transfer relies on critical hits (transferring 112% critical hit damage damage to up to 2 other marked targets)

[pale wadi]

Nego also seems to get rid of the shotgun requirement of strikers to build stacks right

[meager fog]

Theres no building stacks with Nego, simply shoot multiple targets. Anyone marked takes damage.

Like this

[pale wadi]

OOOH and I thought the splash damage was on kill, but it's on hit to other marked enemies wow

[meager fog]

#td2-build-advice message

or this in the Rogue agents one you can see the agent i'm not shooting taking more damage than the one I am shooting at.

[small apex]

missions, bounties, open world, countdown, legendary

[pale wadi]

okay I am def going to rework my strikers build then, and maybe give Nego a try. Thank you!

[meager fog]

That BLuescreen Nego build is entirely courtesy of @subtle bluff btw. 🙏 🙇‍♂️

[onyx sage]

you also don't need shotgun to build stacks on striker if you're not using chest either

[solar sable]

if not running chest just go brrrr

[onyx sage]

chest fell off really bad for legendaries now

[subtle bluff]

I mean… 😐

[onyx sage]

point and laugh

[subtle bluff]

I’ve used it depending on the room…

[onyx sage]

pgc or bust sir

[solar sable]

I'm guessing new builds and new strategies

[subtle bluff]

GR9 makes it easier..

[onyx sage]

nah it's just pgc, we just got better

[solar sable]

the average player doesn't get better

[onyx sage]

he gets broken

[pale wadi]

yay I can go back to bluescreen and really any other weapon I want now, thanks all

[subtle bluff]

So a skills build is gonna have its limits. It won’t do some of those well.

[meager fog]

Bluescreen Nego is the dogs balls.

[onyx sage]

@iron plover balls

[pale wadi]

hmm my dog doesn't have his balls anymore sadly

but he still gets down with his toy hehe

[subtle bluff]

But I’m not using Shield on HHF anymore.. I’m moved from decent to semi avg…

[onyx sage]

soon, you will get into the Zen™ of melee baiting 5 NPCs in 1 second

[edgy hollow]

Is there a link to the full build? What attribute for the Blue Screen? Damage to Armor or critical hit chance?

[meager fog]

CHC on the bluescreen

4pc Negotiators dilemma, Overdogs gloves and Ceska Obliterate or Glasscannon chest.

You need to hit 60% CHC. After that, everything into CHD.

[edgy hollow]

Users choice on weapon damage or armor for cores?

[meager fog]

Weapon Damage on all of them

As a perfect build you'll be using Ceska GC. Using blue cores with GC is despicable 😉

[hexed steppe]

Definitely glass and wd cores for nego. Big draw for nego is no stacking and glass fits that better.

[hexed steppe]

You cant ignore tier requirements for overdogs amp. You mark the high tiers then hit the tier 3 so the amp will apply to every mark. You cant ignore tiers without losing overdogs buff

[meager fog]

That's what I said 😛

[hexed steppe]

Make sure to keep that in mind when explaining the interaction. Nego and associated buffs are conditioned on the target, not the mark.
This includes dttooc, dta as well

[hexed steppe]

Fair

I didn't read the full statement

[meager fog]

I know you're very protective of your Nego, I don't want to misinterpret it 😉

[meager fog]

One thing I did also forget to mention.

Negotiators Dilemma can ignore target immunity.

If a boss is immune to damage, you can mark it and shoot something else and the Boss will still take damage from the transfer.

Courtesy of @onyx sage you can also use the weakpoints of dead enemies, to transfer the damage while being completely hidden

As long as the weakpoints were in tact when they died

[astral kraken]

plates

[meager fog]

Does it not work with weakspots also?

[astral kraken]

weakpoints will blow up even if they're dead

which is a great way to troll teammates

or in dien's case, troll yourself

[onyx sage]

weakpoints do have hp and do work for this also, they just have a lot less hp

[astral kraken]

anything besides chunga plates that's tanky?

[onyx sage]

helmets

[astral kraken]

how does helmet hp compare to plate hp?

(when it's alive)

[onyx sage]

i mean for most enemies they just have a lot less hp compared to chunga plates

it shouldn't matter if they're dead or not

[astral kraken]

i was just wondering about chunga helmet vs plate. was curious about that last week and forgot to ask.

[onyx sage]

chunga helmet or body/leg plates have the same hp

[astral kraken]

ah ok ty

[onyx sage]

what does matter tho is you should always be killing chungas by shooting their chest

[astral kraken]

so it doesn't get hidden?

like when they fall over i mean

[meager fog]

Since the backpack allows you to shoot THROUGH and hit the HP directly, wouldn't that also allow you to shoot the chest plate through the backpack when it's dead?

[onyx sage]

not really, it's just that if you shoot other enemies and they spread damage to chunga for example, the spread damage always hit the chest, so if you plan on using the dead chunga plates later to do the spread trick, the chest plate is the most damaged one

[astral kraken]

such brain

[onyx sage]

i pay attention to small things, it's my trademark

[astral kraken]

that's what... nevermind nevermind

[onyx sage]

lmao

[hexed steppe]

Would dead chunga plates be considered lowest tier for overdogs? Asking for a friend

When used for transfer*

[kind epoch]

Now I get why people said expertise slows down after 10-15ish 😂 half of the wpns are named and exotics LOL

With that, how do I get fox’s knees 😂 TL knee pads or?

[cerulean smelt]

make a build and wear them

[solar sable]

yup, fox's aren't that rare

[onyx sage]

not tested yet but i don't think so, you can test by shooting them with chat window damage numbers turned on

[solar sable]

you should've been with me last night, I was looking for a weapon Handling/hsd vigi zwiadowka bag and gave away three near god rolled fox's

[kind epoch]

I’ve been running nego and TS as of the past 2 days. Experimenting with bluescreen + nego and iron lung + TS

[kind epoch]

😭 I was seeing how quickly I could level up expertise so I was grilling CD and TL LOOOL I felt bored. But I’m gonna do knees TL

[cerulean smelt]

you can get proficiency wearing the items as well

if you want fox's do overlord over piece. the overlord only goes through 6 pieces

[kind epoch]

I know but it feels slower that way somehow? Idk why

[kind epoch]

What do you mean? Only goes through 6 pieces?

[cerulean smelt]

mask, backpack, chest, gloves, holster, knees = 6 pieces

now if you looked at the number of gearsets, brandset and exotics you'd see there's a huge difference between going by specific slot piece vs brandset

[kind epoch]

Interesting you mention that because I was questioning how to clear proficiency the quickest and was looking through the gear brands vs set piece (if that makes sense)

[cerulean smelt]

going by knees you'll be going though a lot more stuff before you get your fox's prayers

[kind epoch]

So go gear piece instead? That’s what I was also trying to figure out with overdogs. I had knees TL

What’s fox’s knees under btw? Which set piece?

[flat halo]

Ok what’s the best headshot build, what rolls on the pieces and what talents lol

[kind epoch]

Rifle or automatic? Think the ones who know best here will rec hotshot with HSD and DTTOOC

[cerulean smelt]

overlord or something? looks like a sword on fire

[flat halo]

Probably rifle

[cerulean smelt]

wonder if mrchow is available? 🤔

[kind epoch]

Then it’d be hotshot with determined on both weapons and HSD + DTTOOC if I had to guess? That’s what I was told and I like sniping lol

[kind epoch]

I’ll have to check it out then. It’s not a necessity, just some layouts rec fox’s knees and for some reason, I’ve only came across it once and disposed of it 😭😭

[cerulean smelt]

poor luck i'd say

[kind epoch]

It’s not, it’s because I was gunning for overdogs and literally said F this, I’ll never need it 😂😭 so I deserved it LOOL

[flat halo]

What is hsd and dttooc lol

[kind epoch]

Headshot damage and damage to target out of cover

[flat halo]

Oh ok, I’ll set my world to those pieces of gear and hopefully get good roles

But what rifle is is best?

[cerulean smelt]

i use the 1886, there might be others that's good

[kind epoch]

For sure. But I’m sure dorky and/or chow would have much better input 😅 that’s what I was recommended to do as I have a hotshot setup for it

[cerulean smelt]

think the pins in the upper right hand corner has the build bubble_pumpking is talking about under a spreadsheet

[flat halo]

What rifle?

[kind epoch]

^^

[kind epoch]

That depends on your play style. I like the 1886 too, but I’m on the m700c with a LMG as a backup (don’t use that as secondary, it’s literally just a secondary placement holder as I never touch it). Depends on how much recoil and your preference of RoF and reload speed.
(I did forget why I leaned off the 1886 to go with the m700c, otherwise I’d still be using it). My only issue with the m700 is I’m not consistent with headshots with the c79 scope since it’s 3rd person pov when ADS’d

[cerulean smelt]

M700 is a marksmanrifle though?

[kind epoch]

Like I have another scope for the m249 and I am far more accurate toggled scoped in than in 3rd person 😂😂😂

[kind epoch]

Yeah mmr

[cerulean smelt]

classic M1A used to be the only rifle to use long time ago. namely the baker's Dozen

[kind epoch]

I think I tried it… Didn’t like how it shot

Do any ARs have mag sizes that come close to LMGs with the gunner mag size? I wanna try the police AR but I’m afraid I’d run out of ammo before I get the kill 😂 (which AR is it btw? I remember it being the mk17 or m4?)

[junior surge]

Elmos is worth a look if you're looking for mag size without having to build for it.

[simple vector]

just a quick question ! For what are incoming repairs ? what does it do ? Gear Mod ! Does it repair the Armor or Health or my Drone ?

[kind epoch]

I tried Elmo’s. Mag size was still too small. Was doing a 1v5 when I first got it and damn near got killed. Idk if it’s just not the right fit for my play style or I just don’t know how to use it

[junior surge]

It increases incoming heals to your agents armor from skills. It doesn't apply to armor on kill, but it will affect things like the repair drone, reinforcer chem launcher or heal hive.

[simple vector]

ok thanks

[kind epoch]

I think the root problem is OD f’d me with the ‘unlimited’ hp ammo. If I could run Elmo’s with OD, it’d be fun but apparently wpn talent doesn’t mesh well with set talent?

The other workaround is I’d use EB but idk how to use the talent correctly. I’d die once the damage taken kicks in

[solar sable]

I think special ammo gets replaced by the new one

[kind epoch]

yeah, i just checked the guide; " shock rounds from the St. Elmo will override the bleed ammo from OD"

i have a PGC with HSD, CHC, and explosive resistance. what should explosive resistance be replaced by?

[cerulean smelt]

that mod is only for the LMG
think someone did a 3 Unit Alloy and 3 Arcabuz de brazos piece with Elmo with 140 mag size

[cerulean smelt]

not heal trap? 🤔

[solar sable]

three attributes? if it's chc then chd

[kind epoch]

yeah i need 100+ if im not doing a 1v1 😅

[kind epoch]

i'd think that's the case but PGC is HSD as a solo piece so i was hesitant

[solar sable]

IIRC if you can hit 20%+ headshots it's worth using pgc

[kind epoch]

oh O.o

[worn imp]

Hunters fury is really inconsistent, man.... even when im up in the enemies' face and getting the proximity damage amp, the fact that I lose all the all my Apex predator amp stacks just because I dont kill someone within 10 seconds really blows.... Wouldve really liked the stacks to disappear one by one every 10 seconds like Tipping scales instead of this inconsistent shite

#division2buildventing

[worn imp]

this should be a channel for people like me lol

[worn imp]

@onyx sage @cerulean smelt Do I just need to adapt better or something or is this really just the case. I feel like, the more people u have in your group, the worse hunters fury becomes. If someone steals your kill you run the risk of losing all your apex predator stacks

[onyx sage]

the more people u have in your group, the worse hunters fury becomes

yes that's true for the exact reason you said and also because of group scaling

[worn imp]

could it be an actual strat to run hunters fury chest and high end backpack instead? xDD

[onyx sage]

no it's even worse because you have even less burst damage to get the ball rolling

the solution is more burst damage, not less

[worn imp]

but suppose the ball is already a'rollin?

[onyx sage]

if the ball is already rolling then keeping it up should not be a problem

HF only has issues with starting to roll the ball, not keeping it rolling

[worn imp]

agree but with the exception of apex predator stacks bro...

[onyx sage]

???

[onyx sage]

yes i know that's why i'm confused, you say you agree but you disagree

[astral kraken]

That's why if I run HF I only run it like this (excluding HHF of course)

[onyx sage]

those stacks are even stronger than the initial 20%

[worn imp]

agree to everything about it being an easily rollable ball except for that those stacks disappear after 10 seconds, all of them, thats bad

[onyx sage]

well that's by design

[astral kraken]

with hf you need to kill fast and it really helps to know the spawns so you can push them early

[onyx sage]

don't use it if you know the fight makes you take longer than 10 seconds after each kill

or use it if you don't need the buff that much and can restart quickly, in the case of HHF

[worn imp]

i just feel that HF doesnt pump out enough dmg for me

even with an SMG build

[onyx sage]

compared to striker? absolutely

[astral kraken]

i hate hf with smgs

shotguns are cool b/c they stagger a lot

with smg you eventually just get beamed

[onyx sage]

i haven't used hf with smg for years now

there's just not much point when HHF exists

HF at max stacks just gives around 1.6 or less, when striker without chest or backpack is already 1.65

[worn imp]

Crit Shottie builds are still a thing dammit! 😡

[onyx sage]

don't hate the player, hate the game

they took my six12 away

[worn imp]

what they change even? didnt play then

[onyx sage]

less base damage, less rof, longer reload time

it's completely trash overnight

[worn imp]

was it overperforming?

[onyx sage]

it was by far the best shotgun for crit

was...

[worn imp]

imagine nerfing that but not touching headhunter determined

[onyx sage]

they shouldn't nerf hh, they should touch determined

[worn imp]

true

[onyx sage]

hh skill ceiling was perfect, determined ruined it

but i won't say no one should play it, as long as it's in the game it's fair game

[worn imp]

Do ARs or LMGs have more stagger than SMGs? or is stagger purely damage based when it comes to guns

[worn imp]

I will say it. Determined undermines and discards the combat design of the game

[onyx sage]

it's mostly damage based but there is a hidden stagger attribute iirc. in div1 shotguns literally say they have stagger +X%

[astral kraken]

one thing i've always wondered if it was a damage-over-time thing or %-of-health thing

[onyx sage]

it's definitely over time

not a single shot damage thing

[astral kraken]

yea it feels that way b/c shotgun pellets very reliably stagger

whereas even high burst smgs dont as much

depends on enemy veterancy as well

[worn imp]

How does high burst smgs stagger compare to that of high burst lmg/ar?

[astral kraken]

idk it feels the same to me

[onyx sage]

oh wait no, i might have misunderstood

so if you take something like the common add and use something like smg-9, they will stagger, but if you take a very tanky boss like DUA boss, he won't stagger cuz there's not enough dps

but if you take something like brazen shotgun or frenzy lmg and burst him, he will stagger

so DPS being high enough in relation to %hp definitely affects it

or just max hh shotgun and if he doesn't die in that first shot, you will notice that he does stagger

[viral meteor]

Can someone try my build

[subtle bluff]

Um.. Try?
There’s a lot of questionable things in here.

[meager fog]

For what reason?

[kind epoch]

which chest piece offers the highest dps for ts if im switching into the lmg from quickstep? i have a PD with PGC, Ceska with GC, and Equalizer

im reading the guide but says TS chest offers highest dmg but hard to maintain since fire time based

[subtle bluff]

PGC always > P. Obli > Ceska GC

[kind epoch]

so even if it's not a ceska or grupo, as long as there's PGC?

[tribal bolt]

PGC can only be Providence anyway. Grupo wouldn't really offer much with how much CHD TS gives

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Kme97iSk3OYwvfb6cH2VljUgVmSjUEKj-MrZ8m-tRGA/htmlview

The sheet basically states what MrChow said

[subtle bluff]

PGC always.
Here’s the other things for TS you’re build up to 350% CHD (iirc) with TS and BP so you have a lot of it and stack more yes will give more dmg but not as much as other stats like RoF in this case.

[kind epoch]

what's BP?

[subtle bluff]

Backpack

[kind epoch]

ah got it

My god PGC makes challenging feel like heroic 😂

[hexed steppe]

[astral kraken]

and it makes heroic feel like challenging!

[kind epoch]

i can see why that is, but equally ironic

[subtle bluff]

Sorry lagging internet

[kind epoch]

it happens lol

[viral meteor]

You don't need to use the handgun I use I am just testing it

[meager fog]

But testing what?

As it is. The build you posted...theres not really anything good about it

It can be improved, if thats what you want?

[viral meteor]

Ok

Can you try to improve my build

[meager fog]

Well, what are you looking to get out of it? Are you trying to build for something specific, or just a general build to play with?

[viral meteor]

Both I am trying to be able to run through heroic missions with out a problem

So if you can help me with that then ty

[meager fog]

Then I would suggest farming out a simple Strikers build. Its the easiest to farm and capable of all content.

Check the pins, and use the google spreadsheet. It'll help you

[viral meteor]

Ok thanks

[meager fog]

Any help with specifics, just ask

[viral meteor]

Ok

[cerulean smelt]

i rarely run hunter's fury because to me if you're that close you're dead no matter what.
i solo mostly so i probably wouldn't run into your issue, but then again i'll probably die for some odd reason anyways

[strong cave]

Add armor cores and memento backpack and instant fun

[edgy hollow]

I forgot to ask which specialization?

[meager fog]

Gunner for Armour on Kill usually

[worn imp]

DUA Leggo with a Mortar Skill Damage/Healer/high CHC Capacitator hybrid build. This is a highly experimental build that I have always done quite well with on Legendaries that arent Tidal Basin

(All red attributes are CHC ideally. The CHC would then be 56% in total instead of just 44% as in this current setup, just need that roll on chest and mask)

My mortars hit for around 7-9 million each and I can fire one every 3 seconds at best unless my turret is on cooldown (only 15 seconds or so)

Thoughts?

[silent storm]

So here is what I came up with. Playing around with it and still need to optimize the WD on chest. 12 mil DPS to the head at full stacks. Base DMG of 580k at no stacks.

[worn imp]

Does anyone know if the mortars deal less damage when enemies are in the edge of the radius?

[solar sable]

@hexed steppe mortar strikes again

[hexed steppe]

nice

[hexed steppe]

dont bother with fox's, the dttooc only helps oxi or one of the firefly (demo i think). instead use wyvern for more boom... or if you have yellow sacrifice then put a china knee on

with mortar supremacy im hitting about 10mil a shot, when overcharged 13mil

[hexed steppe]

i dont think so, tho i havent really tested it... i know you can have tiny pieces of cover that will protect npcs, but if the roles were reversed you'd be dead

either way you run it tho,
Mortar Gang!! Rise Up!!!

[worn imp]

i did a bunch of rigorous testing just now with the exact same parameters on the first purple enemy always spawning on american history museum mission and i found this out.... the dttooc doesnt do anything

[worn imp]

you are my new best friend 😊

[worn imp]

this testing I did also helped me conclude that the damage is the same wherever in the radius

[hexed steppe]

you mean i wasn't before ?!

[worn imp]

🫶

Try my build its great

wait..... do these work for mortars?

[hexed steppe]

yes, dta helps explosives, oxi, and fire

[worn imp]

pls senpai tell me they do 🥺

[hexed steppe]

no you 🔥😎🔥

[worn imp]

wait man... maybe it might just not be worth to run wyvern then since Skill damage is such a big pool already.... maybe i should run like ceska with yellow core instead and skill dmg. Cause that +8% skill damage is realistically like... not 8% .... because its additive

[rich lotus]

Was going to suggest the BTSU gloves 🙂

[worn imp]

that sacrifice 😳

[hexed steppe]

dont mind the missing chest mod, its not active loadout during screenshot. its haste 😂

[worn imp]

pfffff.... who even needs skill haste man. BTSU takes care of that aaaaall by itself. may as well specc into crits brotha. Plus try memento with this its fantastic

[worn imp]

and mortar cooldown is so low by itself its like who cares lol

[hexed steppe]

its not enough damage with memento. well you are gassing the haste with memento so it kinda matters

[worn imp]

might as well go full crit chance on the 2nd attribute so you can actually get a decent capacitor: mine does 700K per crit even with only memento and all crit chance

[worn imp]

wym?? what kinda numbers are you hitting that im not with this?

I get like 8-9 mil on full capacitor stacks

against purples and elites

[hexed steppe]

i hit 10-13mil

[worn imp]

😳

holy shit i gotta try this

[hexed steppe]

that bag is 30% total skill damage, not really using it for the haste btw

[worn imp]

Its an amp?????

[hexed steppe]

and as a single source, force multiplier is as effective as perfect glass with no drawback

[worn imp]

HOLY SHIT ITS AN AMP. i didnt think skill damage amps existed outside of gear sets. thats so huge

[hexed steppe]

if you were using it with kinetic momentum they would be additive together, but in either of our setups with glass, it acts as an amp, yes

[worn imp]

im so happy i found ur build hahahaha

[hexed steppe]

so will shock and awe, and tech support, but they are only 20 and 25% and wont apply on first hit like perfect combined arms can

[worn imp]

wait..... 3 seconds isnt long enough tho sometimes.....

[hexed steppe]

just remember if you use it, its only a 3sec proc but you can proc it mid air right before it hits

read my mind

[worn imp]

??? what

hidden tech? 🤔

[hexed steppe]

fire mortar, proc pca while its traveling

[worn imp]

whats pca

[hexed steppe]

perfect combined arms

force multiplier talent

[worn imp]

ohhhhh shit i misread combined arms. thought it was procced WITH skill dmg

[hexed steppe]

nope, weapon damage

[worn imp]

well thats easy then

whats the deal with the stinger hive? dont u wanna heal teammates? xD

and yourself for that matter, perfect glass cannon lookin ahh

[hexed steppe]

fk them teamates

[worn imp]

agreed

[hexed steppe]

they can keep hiding, i keep blowing stuff up

[worn imp]

but to care about others you must first care about yourself; how do we solve the self heals

[hexed steppe]

i kinda play mortar different then a lot of skill users tho.

[hexed steppe]

easy, dont get shot

😎

[worn imp]

😡 knew u were gonna say that

[worn imp]

same

[hexed steppe]

ill use the stinger to protect a flank or teamates, and stack off anything that gets within range of it, since you know, theyll be flailing 😂

[worn imp]

quick idea tho.... why not maybe run health damage on capacitor since DTooC doesnt work for mortars

[hexed steppe]

you want a shotgun over the lmg, like capacitor, shotguns come with 12%dta and are good for cold starts when you dont have time to get cap stacks... its an easy 30% skill damage on a 1 tap

[worn imp]

which one tho?

thorn?

[worn imp]

also what about this idea? does health damage work for skills?

i saw ur build and ur running the super shottie... why not just an ACS for easier time aiming cause its automatic and fast firing?

[hexed steppe]

i think thats a super 90 but sometimes i swap to oxi, it has dttooc 3rd stat and i like to save spec ammo if i swap builds (dont ask, i do a lot of build swaps as i play).
mop shotgun is ideal secondary with the 10%aok 3rd stat

you in game or is it middle of night for you 👴

[worn imp]

both. why ya ask

[hexed steppe]

gonna see if you wanted to run some shit

[worn imp]

Oh i gotcha. Uh tomorrow ill for sure be on if u want to then but for now i wanna do what little I can not to turn my circadian rhythm upside down xD

Tomorrow as in the afternoon of janurary 3

[hexed steppe]

all good

[worn imp]

Anyways catch ya around then! G'night!

[round zinc]

how good is unit alloy and is it worth using over something like ceska on striker

[hexed steppe]

equalizer chest is pretty solid, iirc its towards the top. not sure if its best tho

[subtle bluff]

More or less.
The thing that win's is the 4% more TWD.
RoF will always increase DPS at some degree. It's depends on the weapon and how much Crit you're taking away from it all.

[sly pollen]

I'm not enjoying the striker class, and PvE farming is starting to get boring. Do you have any build suggestions that are easy to use, not too overpowered, and allow me to level up quickly and enjoyably?

[subtle bluff]

What classifieds as "Enjoyably"?

There are plenty of builds guides in the Build Hub if you're looking around.

[sly pollen]

The striker set isn't fun for me because it's too fragile. Yes, it deals high damage, but the stacking time required to reach that high damage is extremely tedious.

[subtle bluff]

You do not need to stack to use it.

[subtle bluff]

By no means I am saying you need to use Strikers. I am just showing examples.

[sly pollen]

I understand you, but the part that's boring and not fun for me is this. I sent it as an answer to your first question. 🙂

[subtle bluff]

I mean I asked: What classifieds as "Enjoyably"?

Not stacking?

I need better context to be able to help answer questions.

[onyx sage]

you may not have the correct striker setup. it happens. what he wants to find out is whether that's true or not, because for most people striker just works fine in pve farming

if you build it right, the striker stacking shouldn't be the focus, like no need to use acs, just point and shoot with the elmo or any garden variety AR you have

...with that said striker isn't the best set for pve farming either, even if you built striker the best way possible for farming

any headhunter setup would probably be better than striker. but what chow said still holds. what he and i suspect is that your striker setup is just a bit far from the usual ones

for farming no need to use striker chest

that's what we were suspecting

the second is better but to go back to the striker one, replace the striker chest with either ceska obliterate or equalizer

no one's gonna stack striker to 200 or use acs for casual farming

[sly pollen]

This time it will be divided into three parts, right?

[onyx sage]

^ use that

[onyx sage]

hotdogs...

[subtle bluff]

Things to work on.. I know

in the Build Hub as I stated from the my first replies.

To find these Pinned Message > Gear Sheet > Build Hub

[hoary atlas]

i did test on Companion use "Executioner Perk" on assault he just One shot use RPG on Legendary mode

[tacit badge]

Hello, any advice for my build ? i got eaglebearer, ourobouros and lexington with the event, i am not sure about what i can improve from there

[shy willow]

It's mostly fine, but idk why you'd run the deflector or whatever the named FAL is called

[subtle bluff]

Lex with Killer will be on the top of the burst DPS charts.

[tacit badge]

Just to increase the proficiency of the weapon

[tacit badge]

To replace my exotic AR right ?

For the chest i have the new named perfect oblitared chest, i was rhinking to get the named holster or kneepad from the season pass with it, is it worth it ?

[subtle bluff]

To a degree yes.

[thick meteor]

Whats the best roll for a memento?

[subtle bluff]

There isn't a roll.. It's a set gear.

[thick meteor]

Yeah, but I mean what should i recalibrate it into? Chc with chd?

[subtle bluff]

Memento doesn't have minor attributes....

[thick meteor]

Oh... then why-? Yknow what nevermind, im almost maxed out with all my memento core attributes

[subtle bluff]

It only comes with cores...

[thick meteor]

Alright, so im runnig a mementos striker, is that good?

[hexed steppe]

technically, memento stacked with minor attributes..
regen, skill damage, skill haste, status effects, skill health, skill repair, skill duration...
Just gotta stack em

-# ill see myself out

[thick meteor]

Is a UA PO good for a memento striker build?

[hexed steppe]

a what?

[thick meteor]

Unit Alloys Perfect Oblit

[hexed steppe]

equalizer, yes

named items just need name mentioned.

youll obv want crit on it but its a solid chest

[hoary atlas]

Equalizer + Striker + Overdogs

[reef nova]

Do loadouts save your Specialization weapon bonuses? Or do you need to go to a settlement each time you want to switch them?

[hexed steppe]

no. its good you brought it up because it is important to change your weapon bonus choices to maximize dps

i wish it did tho, that would be a dope qol improvement

im still gonna be banging the negodogs drum, stacking is meh unless youre dealing with single heavy targets... nego just puts out so much damage in non raid/incursion content

overdogs really put nego back into the spotlight imho. its always been good, but being able you utilize the overdogs amp on any npc tier through transfer is a game changer (while targeting lowest rank and marking high ranks obv)

[restive scroll]

What builds are these guys running?

[subtle bluff]

we don't know

[restive scroll]

Thanks for the assistance 🙂

[subtle bluff]

there's no way for us to figure it out.

idk how to or if you can but on PC we can inspect them

[fallen comet]

How exactly are we supposed to know?

[restive scroll]

The pics of their builds were corrupted

[strong cave]

They're a troll user. Don't expect much intelligence

[restive scroll]

I have intellectual superiority of stuff

[native plume]

Open chat and ask

[restive scroll]

Now what

[native plume]

Wait for them to answer

Estimate a few days so keep waiting

[restive scroll]

Okay

[hoary atlas]

Imagine im encounter that use this

[native plume]

You have a very interesting left shoe.

[meager fog]

Memento does have a slot for a mod.

This should be CHC or CHD based on your requirements. You want to be as close to 60%CHC as possible without going over

[tacit badge]

Which good build to use for legendary or master mission ? In solo or group ?

[meager fog]

A standard DPS build. Strikers, Tipping Scales, Negotiators Dilemma.

There are options for group support like Ongoing Directive which can work solo but its not as strong as the main DPS builds.

[tacit badge]

Striker is pure dps, will it be ok for soloing ?

[meager fog]

Yes, DPS is king in Division 2.

If you're solo you can switch to Memento backpack for a little more survivability without losing too much damage when it's stacked.

But Master/Legendary is more about the player than the build. You can have the strongest build in the game but if you play poorly you'll struggle

[tacit badge]

👌 thank you

[meager fog]

Gotta learn things like positioning, spawns, target priority, using environmental cover etc

I recommend watching some of Dien, Kestrel and Chows videos for some tips

[thick meteor]

I invested in some armor, still mostly a red ring (1 maxxed out armor, armor regen, and armor on kill) for a little bit of survivability

[subtle bluff]

Armor Regen Stat?

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/KwJgtAbGAMbutE2U1MBcAOOYDMYBGHItUlDATj0kJwBY7yzT1gipYEnvnXwOczHk3R0qArkKnoQdbIwpUCwJRCIEIsDZJTopw6HoMH0EdLioB2S2EzhMJESFi4X4CzyA

^ coming up with different ideas for group play builds and decided to go down the rabbit hole of making hazpro + backfire combine to be useful to some extent. Am I onto something or am I just flat out dumb?

[subtle bluff]

Why do you still use mx builder!

[strong cave]

I've also managed to figure out how to make a 90% hazpro tipping build with BK 😂

[subtle bluff]

Oh for that.

🤢

[strong cave]

I still use it because most of the attributes on build tool were bugged plus I also can't fully link save builds

They had expiring links for build sharing which I didn't like

[subtle bluff]

Ya ya. Something on the list.

What does?

[strong cave]

Build tool

Whenever I would go to share the build via link and send it, it would clear itself. Tried doing the build share link inside the site itself and it would have a timer on it

Like how visual build tool is but mx swat has it in terms of simplicity

[subtle bluff]

Mx or bs?

[subtle bluff]

Did you save the build?

These are feedback we need. We won't change much for mx. It's only thru database.

[strong cave]

Build station would clear itself and the sharable link would expire. Unsure if you ever needed an account to save the builds

[subtle bluff]

Again I'm just asking. This is new to me.

Thanks for the feedback.

I know all of my links work.

[thick meteor]

like, 8,2k? around that, I forgot, I just threw it on, since I had one, I need to grind for some maxed out stats soon lol

[subtle bluff]

I don't know the max amount but do you know what your armor is?

[strong cave]

I likely never did anything properly as the site was still new at the time

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/0sfYPu25

Should be fully working properly now

Mod slots are empty for freedom of choice. I'd personally go CHD

[thick meteor]

not really, I'll check it out later

[subtle bluff]

Check out.
Just looked it up. Armor Regen is 4,925

[loud canopy]

hi i need to have build on order to play with oder people incursions , healer or smth what ever other people do not like to play i just need new exotics i'm getting same exotics for ever now, Any advices?

[meager fog]

Go to Gcrock server.

They will regularly run raids and incursions and they'll teach you how to do them

[subtle bluff]

4pcs Striker Chest & BP w/ACS12 is the base of the build.

Otherwise where Dorky is on the spot.

If you need to know how incursion should be done there’s a video in my bio for it.

[worn imp]

Wouldnt a strikers setup kinda be on par or even better damage wise instead of glass lengmo + backbone and fox's prayer? or am i trippin

[hexed steppe]

This is a pesti build

Strikers doesnt apply

Coco is way easier to farm for pesti btw

The reason this or coco is strong for pesti is because pesti ticks work off weapon damage, dta, dttooc, some amps

[woeful zodiac]

Any good Bluescreen build?

That involves the Unit Alloys brandset

[smoky latch]

3pc UA incl. Equalizer and Salvo, 1pc GS, 1pc Česká, Overdogs

[woeful zodiac]

So how do I set this build?
(Don't mind me, im an idiot)

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[woeful zodiac]

Can I replace the vigilance talent with bloodsucker?

[smoky latch]

You can do anything you want

[woeful zodiac]

Bet

[woeful zodiac]

Thanks

[subtle bluff]

To be most specfic. Bluescreen and Nego build synergize very well and is a very strong build in group settings to do scaling.
Bluescreen strengths is it's abilities to cc. In solo it usable but not too great since you tend to kill everything quicker with other weapons.
Bluescreen tends to do less DPS than most weapons due it not having crit mods.
A build like TS woulds better.

[kind epoch]

is CHD useless versus having dta then? because i have wpn dmg, dttooc, and chd

[meager fog]

For Pestilence mostly yes. Although you still need damage outside of your ticks as they're just "additional dps"

Which is why the choice for 3rd attribute is normally CHC for LMGs

[kind epoch]

Which offers higher DPS? I’m switching between bluescreen, pestilence, and iron lung for exotic LMGs

[kind epoch]

I gotta reroll 😭

[meager fog]

For Tipping Scales....an M249 with Measured or KIller is more beneficial than most Exotic LMGs

With Tipping Scales you absolutely NEED to hit 60% CHC.

[kind epoch]

even with all my chc mods im only at 50.8 with the exotic lmg setup 😭 i got 57 last night. i dont remember how

[meager fog]

You're increasing your crit daamge with the set, so hitting as many as you physically can makes the set work.

[kind epoch]

oh it's because i have chd instead of chc on my pestilence and i have chc on my bluescreen

[kind epoch]

and i noticed that during last round of CD last night. accidentally had m249 equipped (i have measured on it, im still getting familiar with the talent) and it was indeed depleting health faster than irong lung and/or pestilence... i was thinking am i seeing things or...

[meager fog]

With certain sets, like Tipping and Nego, hitting the CHC cap is paramount to making the set work. You can sacrifice CHD even if you go over the CHC cap

[kind epoch]

i alternate between ts and od

[subtle bluff]

Killer isn't as usable as other talents for TS. You generate so CHD already.

[meager fog]

Yes true, it was just my default. It would still be more useful than Bluescreen or Pesti though 😛

[meager fog]

If you can get a couple of M249s with perfect stat rolls, you can set your loadouts so one uses Measured and one uses Sadist.

[subtle bluff]

A lot of players like TS and bluescreen they kind of work well together but then bluescreen talents deal.

[kind epoch]

i will say i have not gotten lmgs (of my liking) with any perfect stat rolls lately. been separately optimizing

[meager fog]

My go to talent atm is Measured. It's much more versatile than KIller and allows you to help more in group content without needing to change anything.

[subtle bluff]

TS is finicky due to its stacks

[kind epoch]

im still optimizing this 249 im playing with. im at max wpn dmg, 10% dttooc, and 7% chc. still does decent with the current setup (i just switched on tinkerer and swapped off overdogs)

[kind epoch]

why does TS feel like it kills more efficiently than OD?

[meager fog]

Because it does. It has a much higher damage ceiling

[subtle bluff]

Higher peak DPS. Just like striker.

[kind epoch]

oh... but i like OD because i never run out of ammo 😂😂😂

[meager fog]

Od still hits hard, and it's viable for all content. It's also insanely good for group support

[subtle bluff]

M249 is great but it's con is it's reload speed.

[kind epoch]

i literally just hold the mouse button and aim. dont gotta let go to reload 😂😂

[meager fog]

Any Tipping Scales or Nego main will literally snap your hand off for a good OD player

[kind epoch]

yeah i found that out 😭 many times i'm doing 1v4 in CD and i get killed because of reload

[meager fog]

Swap weapons, don't reload unless safe or out of combat

[subtle bluff]

TS I've only liked when I know I can stay in combat for a long time. For CD m60, BK, or bluescreen would be my go to.

[surreal stream]

How does a Lexington compare to a Caretake at max rolls?

[meager fog]

Lexington beats it by a long way

[subtle bluff]

Beats it.

G36 handling sucks and rpm loses out in general.

[meager fog]

Caretaker loses DPS because it has awful ROF and Accuracy. Outside of 10-15m it's like firing a shotgun.

[kind epoch]

bk for the no reload?

[surreal stream]

sweet I just pulled a perfect one out of the box. Measured or Killer on it?

[gentle lichen]

Either or

[meager fog]

All Lexingtons drop max rolled.

Measured for group content. Killer for solo

[subtle bluff]

Yup.

[kind epoch]

it wouldn't help having tinkerer though if i swapped to secondary

[meager fog]

It always helps, even losing the buffs is better than dying

[kind epoch]

that's true 😂

[hexed steppe]

no, chd is essential if running pesti. when you are making a pesti build you dont build only for the ticks, they wont be enough to carry the build alone. you still push for solid chc/chd, including chc rolled on the 3rd attribute for pesti. youll need a good tick along with solid weapon damage.
you are honestly not going to be able to fit dta into the build unless you run highend only and use contractors. and highend lengmo is a crappy farm to undertake when something like coco is readily available and stacks a ton of weapon damage and chd.
coco/glass/overdogs is pretty much the most readily available pesti build you can make

whatever chest brand you decide, i would glass/p.glass only

[kind epoch]

got it. i dont use pestilence much anymore but it's fun to play with sometimes

[hexed steppe]

with coco youll be seeing like 2mil ticks along with really solid crits

[foggy imp]

I’ve wanted to try this set but I heard it’s kind of buggy and hard to get stacks solo

[subtle bluff]

Uh.. I saw soemthing asking about OD?

[hexed steppe]

it can be hard to get stacks. i have had it bug, but its a swap 1 pc off to break the set , then put it back and rest of session is no issues.
the problem with stacks is the mark only lasting a few seconds and if ttk isnt fast enough and they die unmarked you lose that opportunity for stacks. if you use damage skills like i do above, you can generate 3 stacks per kill solo. once you have stacks it take a long time to disipate so its easy staying topped off at that point. coco definitely works better in group

[dreamy valve]

I can attest to its effectiveness even on open maps like Manning Zoo. Pestilence isn't as weak as you think

Have almost the same setup as Localdeck's but a less optimized Pesti with DTA and it still did gangbusters

[subtle bluff]

I have a showcase video of being able to run it in solo heroic.

[foggy imp]

I’ll definitely watch it. I’m more than open to get the pieces I just didn’t know it it’s worth it till it’s not so buggy. Not trying to take pieces off and on mid mission lol

[hexed steppe]

its an easy farm

1 cd run will have the set

[subtle bluff]

I only have issues with it when I get Rez or spawn into a on going mission.

[subtle bluff]

We did it in like 2 CP clears for fun.

[hearty owl]

Is the new gearset an amp

[onyx sage]

no

[hearty owl]

bro what

TWD at least???

[onyx sage]

but it's new bis set for pesti tho because of that

[hearty owl]

Please don’t say it’s AWD

[onyx sage]

it's all wheel drive i'm sorry

[astral kraken]

it's not not awd

[hearty owl]

Erm

Getting some mixed responses lol

[onyx sage]

it's awd

[hearty owl]

Oh

I just re read kestrel’s schizo message

[astral kraken]

it's not not not not awd

[hearty owl]

Dude they had something actually decent here and then they make it AWD

[smoky latch]

It is decent

[onyx sage]

¬¬¬¬awd

[astral kraken]

just think of it as a pesti buff

[hearty owl]

Yeah bro I LOVE PESTILLENCE

I think I might make a blue Exuro build before I make one specifically for Pestillence

[astral kraken]

pesti kinda sucks yea. but hey at least it's not blacklisters.

why do you keep spelling it that way

[hearty owl]

I don’t know

I’m already upset don’t make it worse

[onyx sage]

it's okay bro go play with gr9 frenzy now

[subtle bluff]

I was confused when I saw on and in zoo @hearty owl

[hearty owl]

Can we make Famas BIS again

[onyx sage]

yes please dawg

[hearty owl]

I’ve been hitting up the random mm legendary lately

Just to feel something again yknow

[hearty owl]

Dude

[astral kraken]

sorry that was too far. sorry.

[smoky latch]

Someone was telling me this build (but with all red cores and no PfE I presume it is here) does more DPS than Striker's w/ Equalizer and Overdogs. Am I losing my mind?

[subtle bluff]

You trying to build another me? JK JK. Idk how you dealt with me and my buddy.

[hearty owl]

I miss you and your buddy. Back in the good old days when the Incursion was a passion

[solar sable]

ragebait used to be believable

[smoky latch]

Their reasoning was the increased RoF and larger mag results in more sustained damage

It didn't make sense to me but I cannot prove it mathematically

[buoyant perch]

Next time answer them with "spreadsheet or it doesn't happen"

[smoky latch]

I referred to iKia's Striker's / UA spreadsheet 😄

[onyx sage]

this might be true in terms of mag damage (total damage in mag) but not burst damage or sustained

the extra rof from the set and salvo is only ~7% increase, versus striker backpack which gives ~12%

also comparing against overdogs is quite a big claim here that's also going to lose

[smoky latch]

Not sure, maybe the mixed up something. But there are reasons why NBB is not top of the line in PvE

[magic pilot]

striker damage buff does not apply to pesti, its a unique amp that does not affect the tick damage

[foggy imp]

I’ll give it a try. Shines with an lmg or Lexington works well

[onyx sage]

it's the same line of reasoning whenever someone thinks that larger mag is better. they just think in terms of mag damage. see it all the time on YT

[solar sable]

unless the youtuber copies the build from another youtuber, posts it online and when someone comes asking for the maths they don't know how to answer and instead block you

[candid depot]

ive heard that chameleon is good. whats a good build for it, and is it even good

[solar sable]

it's meh, an smg disguised as an AR
use it on strikers is most recommended
you can also kinda struggle to maintain its stacks so keep that in mind

[candid depot]

apparently exodus gloves refreshes the buffs, is this true?

[solar sable]

I'll let someone else answer because I haven't messed with exodus yet

[subtle bluff]

buffs?

[candid depot]

the chameleon buffs

[solar sable]

ig cham stacks?

[candid depot]

yes

[onyx sage]

yeah cuz you go out of combat but that alone isn't going to be game breaking or anything, it's just a small synergy

[candid depot]

on that note, would this be good

trying to get fenris unbreakable

[smoky latch]

Why 2x Unbreakable (Exodus gloves do the same basically, aside from annoying the f out of your teammates :D)

[candid depot]

exodus obscures me, and unbreakable gives armor

[smoky latch]

The advantage of using Exodus gloves is that it is kinda like that talent so you can use a damage talent on your chest I would say

[onyx sage]

exodus also gives back full armor anyway if you know how

[buoyant perch]

stop haxxing pls

[candid depot]

how

[onyx sage]

stop subscribing to my hax sir

[onyx sage]

if you swap weapon (pistol is fastest) at the right time out of combat you regen all armor

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff Whats ur tech tank memento heartbreaker setup look like? whats the 6th gear item (high end) that ur running?

[woeful zodiac]

The funny thing is, I don't have gamepass so I don't play in groups

[woeful zodiac]

I am looking forward for to a solo build

[solar sable]

literally anything but support builds
Pinned messages has a Spreadsheet with builds

[subtle bluff]

ceska, salvo, really whatever.

[solar sable]

That's also why I switched to pc, plenty of fun and no expensive subs to play online

[hexed steppe]

not to mention all the cool kids are on pc 😎

[silent storm]

Damn right

[shy willow]

😔

[solar sable]

switch to pc gng, I need you to be here

[onyx sage]

u wanna farm?

[foggy imp]

Is running the beacon chest worth it in countdown over the overdog gloves

[gentle lichen]

depends

most likely no

[foggy imp]

Stash it goes. Thanks

[solar sable]

in a moment

[silent storm]

What is the RoF of The Bighorn when scoped in?

[gentle lichen]

somewhere around the reg id say like 160-180

[silent storm]

It seems even slower than that

[subtle bluff]

It's semi auto

120rpm?

[silent storm]

Was it nerfed before or was it always that slow?

[subtle bluff]

Soo the semi mode never got changed..

[silent storm]

So I guess I heal the enemy with headshots?

[subtle bluff]

So it's less dmg.. than it should have

[subtle bluff]

Visual bug

[silent storm]

Yeah it does seem weak considering how slow it fires

Biggest DMG number I was able to get out of it was around 6.5 mil

Considering that my rapid fire Rifles can do 4-5mil seems crazy low

[worn imp]

anyone know if Health damage works for mortars?

[cosmic wing]

I think its only damage to armour that works

[rotund pewter]

Has anyone played around with Turmoil Kneepads

Seems like they could make for an interesting build

[subtle bluff]

Yes, there niche/situational

[rotund pewter]

I'll throw it on my Striker's and see how it goes lol

Don't really see it making sense on anything other than the highest dps build

Probably good for speedrunning easy content

[subtle bluff]

Situational. For speedrun WR as a whole the community don't count those.

[hoary atlas]

EB & The Apartment best Combo

[solar sable]

plot twist: can't hit headshots

[magic pilot]

Is the best combo in the room with us

[worn imp]

Does this also destroy grenades fired by enemy grenadiers?

[shy willow]

No

[half cedar]

Oof totally me here with EB. 🗿

[hexed steppe]

revive hive says otherwise

[wise swallow]

they add final measure to div 2?

[worn imp]

Nah measured assembly

[solar sable]

name got me confused wth

[wise swallow]

they really reused the final measure logo

ig it kinda works like final measure

[onyx sage]

a little bit

it doesn't destroy grenades anymore but skill proxies. wish it did grenades

[wise swallow]

doesnt seem to give the same buffs either

[gentle lichen]

It's a neutered final measure at its best

[lone kelp]

Whats the tempest drop rate in legendary summit?

[hazy steeple]

Low.

And it's only Floor 100.

Although once you do get it, I can highly recommend the iKia build that has it+the tech hive.

[lone kelp]

I just got it

[meager fog]

The irony in that picture is that the strongest weapon is the pistol lmao

[hazy steeple]

Mozam!

[viscid tapir]

Asking real quick, for my chameleon attributes do I want DToC and Crit chance?

[solar sable]

first two are fixed and you want dtoc on all weapons except lmg where chc is bis

[viscid tapir]

O_O oops.....
welp thanks a ton for that wake up call xD

[solar sable]

np, welcome to the club

[kind epoch]

How does CoCo compliment Pesti? I was just randomly farming it tonight and I pretty much have the full setup per the guide, but I get killed so easily 😂

[solar sable]

it's the best gearset for pesti ticks right after HE lengmo

[meager fog]

Stacking weapon damage

[civic ingot]

When looking at making a build what’s the most important things to look for

[meager fog]

The build guide 😏

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[civic ingot]

Thank you

[subtle bluff]

MY GUIDE!!!! 😄

[strong cave]

You'll want CHC on Bluescreen and pestilence. As for iron lung and Bullet king, that's situational. Depends how crit starved your build is. And what difficulty content you are playing. Everything can be killed with a crit, yes, which is why CHC is considered 'best'. Additionally another argument is if you have plenty of crit on your LMG, damage to armor wouldn't hurt to have either. Assuming most of what you're fighting has armor

I run CHC on my Pesti / Bluescreen / iron lung / bullet king. Most of the setups being gearsets and crit starved. But on high end setups I'm able to run DTA with BK/Lung due to them having crit mods already. I'm able to have high CHD and DTA all in one. So really the "Best in Slot" standard here really boils down to what your builds stats are

[subtle bluff]

DTA 6% mathematically doesn't do better 90% of the time. If you're above around 190 CHD than sure but then RoF brings up your DPS more than DTA would.

in TS and BF builds yes you don't care about crit because you have an over abundance of crit so in the past Foxes was worth more.

To finish the point now a days since Ceska is slowly being phased out CHC is more important now.

[strong cave]

Ye typically how I categorize 3rd attribute on LMGs would be:

CHC > ROF > DTA

I still like DTA on my LMGs because occasionally I will play Umbra + Ninjabike with Walker harris included. The DTA from 2 piece walker and the 3rd attribute being DTA pairs well in PvP. It can be done on PvE environments but most times you'll want CHC since most enemies you are fighting are mainly reds/purples and later on you face yellows

[subtle bluff]

Like I get the thought of a new number to add in but 6 value isn't enough most of the time.
When Killer becomes part of it all that when things change.

PvP is a different story.

[strong cave]

But majority of my PvE setups is CHC anyways

[subtle bluff]

That WHOLE different mind set and things.

[sharp folio]

What build should I be getting after striker build?

[strong cave]

Honestly, I say go hotshot next

[subtle bluff]

It depends on what you want to do.

[sharp folio]

Could you tell me what does it do?

[subtle bluff]

MMR one shots

[strong cave]

Shoot a red/purple enemy in the head once, killing them usually, and with Determined on an MMR and chainkiller with Perfect HeadHunter, you'll be 1 shotting basically everything in the body

And it'll usually always count as a headshot kill

[sharp folio]

I'm confused since I don't know what's perfect headhunter or chainkiller lol

[strong cave]

Gotta remember I play both PvE and PvP. I know this is a PvE build channel but DTA does have some uses in certain areas. But you are 100% right, the 6% means next to nothing in terms of damage now that we have other sources to pick from. Plus Ceska being phased out is what's hitting us. I'm still rocking Ceska, unit alloys to me is a bit of a "oo shiny let's use it" brand set when it only benefits AR playstyles mostly

[strong cave]

Chainkiller is a named chest piece that has the talent "Perfect Headhunter" on it. The brand is walker and harris

[sharp folio]

Ah yeah makes sense then

[strong cave]

I can post a template for you to use if you want to farm for it. All you really need to do is read what the talents do

Can easily get a hotshot build in like 1-3 countdown runs

[sharp folio]

Yeah sure, would be nice

[strong cave]

Alright let me cook up a template for you 💯

[subtle bluff]

I mean I wasn't talking to you specfic I thought we were talking in general.

[sharp folio]

What's white death though?

[subtle bluff]

an MMR.

[subtle bluff]

If you read. The MMR weapon almost doesn't matter you only need one with DTTooC and Determined.

[sharp folio]

I meant if it's a named weapon

Or whatever the normal variant was, I can't really tell

[strong cave]

Oh we were talking in general, I just happen to be the weirdo who plays both PvE and PvP. It's as you mentioned, both modes have two totally different lines of thinking 😂

I have seen high end builds hit for fairly good crit damage and they had DTA on their LMG and they did pretty decent damage. Unsure if it would be considered optimal yk?

[strong cave]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/y7eRwlSI

Chow btw I'm fully swapping to build station. It's basically like MX now and it's way less buggy than it used to be 💯

And might I add... Actually kept up to date unlike MX

[subtle bluff]

They use the same database

the features on BS we're adding to it.

[strong cave]

Same database for sure but the site is now way more functional than when I first checked it out

It's also got all the new gear in it unlike MX builder where I'd have to warn users 'hey this piece is just a placeholder for this piece since it's not been updated'

[subtle bluff]

You have to clear DB a lot with mx

[strong cave]

For me I just open a duplicate tab and save each link separately and attach a screenshot to each link. I do have a private Google drive with my own personalized builds but I don't ever post them publicly

[subtle bluff]

ah

[patent fossil]

It's a named Classic M44 Carbine

[strong cave]

So for example, if I wanted to showcase 2 builds with MX both with slight tweaks, I'd just duplicate the tab and change it there. It would let me do that. If I tried it with build station, at the time, it would just full reset everything

[sharp folio]

Ty

[strong cave]

I hate the mobile UI a lot. I have to do the pinch zoom and alot of times I accidentally refresh the page. So my build wipes 😂

[subtle bluff]

It's the reason I'm pushing for BS well

also for the guides... more mobile friendly

[strong cave]

Build station I'm running into the same problems where I'm opening the selection screen and it's over zooming in. I have to manually type what I'm looking for just so I don't click the wrong thing

[subtle bluff]

YA we just added something for that

[strong cave]

Personally I just force desktop mode but then I have the issue of "everything is too small to read"

You guys are doing great work for the community 💯

[subtle bluff]

Trying to collect feedback is the hard part

[strong cave]

You guys basically have a solid tool. It functions exactly like something I'm already familiar with (same database as you said). Except it's wayyyyy more visual like how in game builds are. My girlfriend recently used it and she said it's WAY easier than MX builds bc it's like it's right there in game for you. She's still struggling with the visuals of the game itself and BS helps that

I had work yesterday and I came home and found her playing countdown. All on her own. Farming for the pieces I sent her from build station. She used to need my help and now she doesn't. So really, a big number of the community here has been helping her along

[subtle bluff]

Nice!

The next thing afterwards is the DPS calculator.

[strong cave]

Yeah that one I WISH functioned

[subtle bluff]

I wanna try to figure out how to make a DPS graph for stack ramp.

[strong cave]

MX builder has TTK. Wouldn't it be the same thing almost?

[subtle bluff]

Trust we know. Only one has it done but kind of a pita to use.

MX build doesn't do DPS.

[strong cave]

Nah TTK not DPS

[subtle bluff]

for the overall build. just the Weapon

Ya we're gonna have both. Trust.

[strong cave]

So like it'll estimate how many seconds to kill or so

[subtle bluff]

Yup

[strong cave]

💯 can't wait to see it

[subtle bluff]

I wanna make something like this to compare builds.

I have some ideas but this is a new things for me.

I should tag Rowdy for this.

[strong cave]

It's actually really good data to look at

[subtle bluff]

It makes soo much more sense.

[strong cave]

The reason sacrifice is so high is because it's STACKLESS. It's flat rate

[subtle bluff]

TS is easier to for tho.......

[strong cave]

You get the damage immediately with glass cannon. Unlike the other stacked talents

[subtle bluff]

Preaching to the us

[strong cave]

However, your damage is an immediate plateau as soon as you're stacked. Unlike the other alternative that offers more after 15s

That would be king in legendary I'd assume

The other builds would be fine if 3 others ran them and then say 1 guy ran the blue build on the graph

Oh chow! Girlfriend cleared Leggo DUA with me the other day 👀

[tacit badge]

How to get overdogs exotic ?

[edgy hollow]

I had DTA on my pesti since I use it for PvP and dark zone. Should I be putting CHC on instead?

[subtle bluff]

You want DTA for PvP. PvE CHC.

[strong cave]

youll need CHC on pesti everywhere

[edgy hollow]

Mr chow says DTA for PvP. But you’re saying CHC even for PvP and dark zone PvP?

[worn imp]

I made iKias red measured build all headshot damage attributes. I can reach 6 skill tiers in full man groups due to the 2 skill tiers u begin with from memento and from technician.

[worn imp]

Tbf this isnt exactly what he was running. here im running memento instead of MA backpack and sacrifice instead of a chest with overwatch talent.

[subtle bluff]

It really depends on numbers. Depends on the build and numbers.

[strong cave]

thats because pestilence doesnt come with any crit mods

even on an umbra build itll be heavily crit starved

[hexed steppe]

Do both actually pvp?

Afaik fifty does a lot of pvp

[strong cave]

I do a decent amount id say. at least whats most common

[copper yarrow]

on paper, Which would give more damage on a Tipping scales build, the TS chest or Perfect focus chest? Assuming every other gear piece is same

[broken edge]

Are you using a scoped weapon?

[copper yarrow]

Yes to activate the talent

[silent storm]

Salvo is pretty good on TS, I'm surprised it beats PGC

Then again it's probably the chest doing it

[strong cave]

i cannot put this build down (yes im intentionally taking gunner for AoK to keep my armor topped off)

[edgy hollow]

What build you use for PvP?

[onyx sage]

perfect focus

[copper yarrow]

sweeet

[silent storm]

Playing around with this build and it seems a little weak. What is the consensus on Regulus? What should I change to make it stronger?

[versed summit]

consensus on regulus is that it's very strong. Spot on or urban lookout on the holster is not a great option.

I'd recommend Dodge City Gunslinger's Holster instead, as that makes it a lot easier to start Headhunter stacks. Otherwise you could move an IA piece there and use Overdogs, Contractor's or Fox's.

[tidal swan]

what IC3SO said; on top of that make sure that you have pistol damage upgraded in your specializsation tree.

[astral kraken]

How exactly are you trying to play it? Regulus is the strongest exotic in the game (debatable I guess, but it's top 3 easily) but it also has a very high skill ceiling. Both in game knowledge and mechanics.

Also just IMO but I don't run it with IA pieces. That seems to be the common recommendation now and I disagree with that being the default. The increased threat is a really big problem if you're pushing spawns.

Those are the two variants I like but most people have their own variants (that aren't far from that though).

That's an example with DCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haPsqg5uxoU

Also worth a watch (that's @tidal swan and @onyx sage)

[hexed steppe]

what are you hitting at the top end hh stacks with reg?

[subtle bluff]

You're missing the point.

[lost wren]

high end feels off for me idk why, whether it be this or ia
it just doesn't feel like it hits super hard

[astral kraken]

the clip above is with the high end version

[strong cave]

For pvp I use a ninjabike backpack version instead of this

[lost wren]

“disappointment%” very real

but damn maybe i just suck idk

[versed summit]

Honestly I don't like HE at all and would rather just use HF

[onyx sage]

the disappointment% is HHF, the clip purple sent is high end

[onyx sage]

don't diss my uncle using high end in zoo sir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP7pYTIU9G0

[versed summit]

Sir your uncle could solo god with a wet fart. I would never diss redlightning, I just don't like HE

[onyx sage]

no sir my uncle would definitely take it personally sir

[versed summit]

Don't tell him please

[quasi flame]

Lol i litteraly saw you today and saluted at you crazy

[strong cave]

Lol I saw I was playing with my girlfriend lol

[quasi flame]

I was inspecting you tryna figure out anotherbuild to try and look for looked fancy

[strong cave]

I've got a good number of different builds I like to play. I likely was using striker, the high end sniper build you responded too, or something else

[silent storm]

Dodge City was the way to go. Much better out the gate with that on.

[quasi flame]

Im still relatively new so i dont have a lot just running the sea horse set with drone trying to farm for a capactior

[strong cave]

I dropped 2 of those today. One I gave away and the other I deconstructed

[quasi flame]

Im tryna do the uhh 5 challenges for summit?

Then maybe work on that sniper build you had

[strong cave]

Yeah summit is the quickest way to get it

[strong cave]

My setup: https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/wMKhiSlu

Newbie friendly setup:
https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/y7eRwlSI

[quasi flame]

Oh sick youre the bomb

[strong cave]

💣

[quasi flame]

I was curious does the secondary weapons perk activate if i have for an example nemesis out?

[onyx sage]

no

[silent storm]

This is about average

[quasi flame]

where should i go to farm for this stuff still not able to figure out where to farm gear

[strong cave]

Look for countdown on your map (Pentco Power Plant), make sure you set your targeted loot to what you want. Matchmake countdown on challenging. Follow the group, don't do VIP

[quasi flame]

No vip follow group got it ❤️ tyvm man

[strong cave]

If a group all goes to VIP just follow them honestly

[silent storm]

Dodge City has changed my mind on it

[hazy steeple]

1 more thing: do not use skills that deploy when you are at the very start or extraction for Countdown.
e.g. turrets/drones/hives. The Hunters there can hack them and turn them hostile for your team.

[quasi flame]

Op

Okay noted cause thats all i do in my build >.

[strong cave]

Yeah be careful with it. A tier 6 striker drone will obliterate the DPS guys. Had that happen to me today

[hazy steeple]

If you just run after your team and do the objective, you'll be the MVP in most Countdown runs.
Everyone else is happy to kill, just go vacuum up the loot afterwards.

[strong cave]

Hunters can hack any deployable skill. Nothing hurts worse than a tier 6 stinger hive

[quasi flame]

Damn okay okay obj slave away

[strong cave]

It's a pretty easy mode. Recommended to all newbies for build farming

[quasi flame]

Ty again!

[vernal wave]

hi all i just got catalyst mask is there any good builds

[strong cave]

Catalyst mask is terrible. So no, there's no good builds with it

[last schooner]

is measured assembly useful?

[strong cave]

Fairly, yes. Has its speedrunning uses in Incursion as well as Legendary setups protecting you from drones and skills

It pairs well with smart cover as well

[last schooner]

it doesn't protect you from grenade launders right?

[vernal wave]

wow that was harsh xD then its going to stash to eat dust xD how about tinkerer ?

[last schooner]

launchers

[strong cave]

Sadly, no. But smart cover allows you to gain explo res with fortified smart cover

I personally run precision smart cover

[strong cave]

Sadly, catalyst is a gimmick exotic. Tested and proven to be horrible. Catharsis, coyote or tinkerer easily tops it. Tinkerer is a great mask, it's good on specific builds

I personally use it on Striker builds, Ongoing Directive builds, and Shotgun/LMG builds (Shotguns and LMGs have the strongest talents in the game)

[last schooner]

damn pummel would be great on LMG

thought that was only possible in descent...

[vernal wave]

4pcs ongoing-ceska bpack w/wicked - gr9 w/sadist - and a trash lmg just for frenzy is that good enough

i mean i like it this gear melts but i feel like smt is not right

[strong cave]

Sounds perfect. But what's your CHC and CHD?

[versed summit]

It is only possible in descent

[vernal wave]

55-133

[last schooner]

yeah I just realised can't have different wpns talents lol

[strong cave]

Should be hitting like a truck

Personally I'd rather just go Sadist + killer

[hexed steppe]

Does the possible gains from tinkerer outweigh overdogs?

[vernal wave]

after triggering frenzy sheesh it melts away but spending all that 250 bullets takes time but thanks for advice ill try killer

[strong cave]

From what I tested on OD, I found myself liking tinkerer more. OD was a bit too much amp, diminishing returns almost

[hexed steppe]

Amps arent additive tho

[strong cave]

At least that's how it felt in my opinion. Idk the numbers side

[hexed steppe]

There are times when overdogs is and isnt working tho. Tiered npc req and all

[strong cave]

I felt like tinkerer provided way more consistency

Because you can use pressure point for the 15% amp or whatever

[hexed steppe]

That's a fair assessment.

[strong cave]

Plus Sadist so that's basically somewhat half of ODogs

30 ish from Sadist, 50 from OD chest, I think 15 from pressure point

It's not additive but I'm just keeping it bare basic due to just overall uptime

[onyx sage]

besides sadist, eyeless, ignited nothing gives as much amp, so overdogs will beat tinkerer if overdogs is active. but that comes with the obvious caveat

[strong cave]

I'd rather use something I know would be active all the time VS something I have to guess on every time

[onyx sage]

the only difference between tinkerer and overdogs is whatever the 2nd talent gives vs 30%

numbers wise

and right now no weapon talent beats 30% except sadist itself

[broken edge]

Bullet go big

[versed summit]

precision strike would like to have a conversation

[onyx sage]

u guys hear that?

must've been the wind...

[strong cave]

Bro got the 7 kill streak. He's gonna pull out chopper gunner next. Then the 25 streak for the nuke

[onyx sage]

tactical nuke weapon talent. Massive make it possible

[strong cave]

I'd like to see them tactical nuke all the f-- cheaters first

Walk into dz, half the server has cheats and confirmed

Instantly walked right back out. Noooooope

[silent storm]

Half? sounds like an underassesment

[strong cave]

It genuinely was half. More than half the players there were on my blocked list. I use it to keep track of cheaters and pets

The other half were part of a clan and weren't flagged

[silent storm]

Yeah I was saying half was a low estimate

[strong cave]

Well with how dead dz is, they all left to play other games. I don't blame them

[hexed steppe]

So I moved away from hotdogs already.. been cooking up this breaking dogs hh casserole for mixing rifle/mmr hh. Both 1886 and harvest are streamline.
These are only range values on red bar targets so actual usage will have a lot more variance.
I already have airaldi bag which is what I've been using, but testing others like 2nd walker and the IA pictured

[silent storm]

I have that build

[onyx sage]

overpoint? breaking dogs?

[onyx sage]

breaklisters when

[hexed steppe]

Barking dawgs

[hazy steeple]

Foxy Dogs.

[strong cave]

⏸️

[onyx sage]

dog's prayer

[silent storm]

Determined 1886 on it

[versed summit]

over fox's

[hexed steppe]

I dont have

[onyx sage]

time to take you thru the pact...

[hexed steppe]

Ig so

[hazy steeple]

Local', you can't reveal that us mods are all secretly terrible at the game.
cmon now.

[strong cave]

I can bring decoy aegis 💯

[onyx sage]

no thanks

[hexed steppe]

Just me. Npcs just trip up the walker and grandpa is done for

[strong cave]

😂

[onyx sage]

marauders:

[silent storm]

Harvest doing same DMG as my Regulus on that

[strong cave]

He can whack them out of the air with the walker

[stuck portal]

hey guys getting back into the game have the builds changed

[strong cave]

Still got striker?

[hexed steppe]

May have left when striker was meh

[hexed steppe]

Short answer, yes.
There are a lot of options and they're usually pretty easy to farm

Check the pinned sheet.
Striker, nego, ongoing directive, tipping scales all solid dps

[stuck portal]

man thats alot to take in

[hexed steppe]

ive been purposely not using determined for a while now. there is just no satisfaction in the cheese for me. streamline has actually been pretty good tho, and if a skill is out or on cooldown ill be on shroud anyways. mantis is really good and gets used from time to time, but i been focusing shroud lately.