td2-build-advice

[sage hare]

k ty

[amber crater]

for all of those you can set your targeted loot

[wraith zealot]

NP, a well built sniper is always welcome.

[amber crater]

my sniper build is 4 pcs hotshot with tinkerer mask and grupo chest with headhunter talent

[stone python]

I got a new St.Elmo where can i reroll the 3rd attribute to DTOoC?

[obtuse crystal]

you can buy the reconfiguration blueprint from inaya and you can reconfigure the exotic to reroll it

[sage hare]

What is a grupo chest?

[amber crater]

the brand is Grupo Sombra and it's a body armor (chest piece)

[stone python]

I have to wait 2 days for restock? 🤦‍♂️

[obtuse crystal]

no if she doesnt have just log out and log back in and she should have it

[stone python]

No St.Elmo lol

OMG!!!

What that thing that i should farm for?

[obtuse crystal]

that is the true son tactical assessment you can get them from true sons named enemies, optimization caches, or by crafting them

[stone python]

Is it worth crafting 'em?

[obtuse crystal]

yes you get 10 per craft best way to get it imo anyways

[meager fog]

Why would you use Grupo chest and not Chainkiller or even Airaldi/Habsberg

CHD does nothing for a Sniper build

And why tinkerer? Hotshot Chest/Backpack aren't good

[amber crater]

Tinkerer so I can have weapons with Determined and Lucky Shot as talents 😄
Hotshot backpack talent Blessed (Agents can miss a headshot before resetting the cycle) why is that not good? 🤔

[meager fog]

Because you're using determined....you can't miss headshots

[sage hare]

So what do i have to get ?

[meager fog]

For a sniper build?

4pc Hotshot, Chainkiller chest (For Perfect HH) and Airaldi/Habsberg Backpack with Vigilance

White Death with determined gives the highest initial headshot

[sage hare]

What is a "white death with determined"

[meager fog]

White Death is a nmed Sniper rifle, that can have it's talent changed. It has the highest HSD bonus of any MMR.

[amber crater]

how about Providence with Vigilance? or even The Gift with Perfect Vigilance? 🤔

[meager fog]

Habsberg and Airaldi both give additional HSD, that first shot needs to be at the highest damage you can get in order to proc HH and Determined

[amber crater]

1pc Airaldi gives 10% MMR damage, 1 pc Habsburg 13% HSD, and 1pc Providence also 13% HSD

[obtuse crystal]

airandi is slightly more than the gift but its pretty close like 300k or so i think

[meager fog]

iirc, you use Airaldi because your HSd is already high enough, more MMR damage is more valuable since you'll overstack HSD for diminished returns at that point

[foggy imp]

Would fenris or a grupo pair better with the coyote mask

[meager fog]

Ceska

CHC > CHD

[foggy imp]

But isn’t the point of running the mask to increase your chc so you can put your chest piece into something else?

[meager fog]

No, the point of running the mask is that you can stop at 50-55% CHC.

The mask will give you CHD in most situations

The majority of fighting in this game is done at ranges of between 10-20m. So the 10% from the middle buff is the most valuable, you still need your CHC to be above 50% so that if enemies get too close you aren't missing the big CHD buff through lack of CHC

[foggy imp]

Ah okay that is a very good point. Thank you.

[vernal tusk]

I use catharsis, streamline weapon, adrenaline rush, gunner spec.. and hunters fury, striker, umbra .build.....:)

[meager fog]

uh...what

[vernal tusk]

4 pices umbra - chest, gloves, holster, kneepads... :). Backpack adrenaline rush, catharsis mask, gunner spec, 2 streamline weapons

[hazy steeple]

Where does the Striker+Hunters Fury come in?

[amber crater]

you mean it can come with different talent? because it doesn't seem it can be recalibrated 🤔

[vernal tusk]

Second build striker chest... so on, third build hunters fury

[hazy steeple]

@amber crater Yeah you can change the Talent of the White Death.

the White Death's "named thing" is the bonus headshot damage (HSD.)

[meager fog]

White Death talent can be recalibrated

[amber crater]

oh my bad, didn't have enough resources 🤦‍♂️

[vernal tusk]

I have made a belstone, 2 golan, 1 emper.. guard kneepads , with catharsis, mask, sokolov adrenaline rush, gunner spec, streamline weapons, 82 regen, 🙂 and i made on with gila mask, and momento, no streamline , i dont remember i think it was chatterbox, perfect killer smg.

[tidal swan]

why grupo? Better to just go providence/habs or just chainkiller. You're not benefitting from the chd from grupo at all in a sniper headshot build

[stone python]

Soon i ll be done with this

[cerulean smelt]

for now 😹

[strong cave]

Just you wait until firewall and tech

[cerulean smelt]

or until they decide out of the blue a 7th Specialization with even more absurd objectives

[meager fog]

Tech is easy lol

[strong cave]

I would rather they do a specialist rework entirely like they promised us years ago

[meager fog]

But also this. Specialists each have a single node worth using.

Outside of that they're interchangeable with no real benefit/downside to each

[cerulean smelt]

i was looking forward to it too

[strong cave]

I'll be honest, I was lazy and I bought the year one pass

[agile citrus]

testing mode. it synergizes well. just not sure yet

[strong cave]

Go blue cores and youre 👌

[agile citrus]

orbit bums eb crit to 177, or 167 if not Perfect

[agile citrus]

nu this is a skill issue set. its designed to introduce diffculty with high reward

[strong cave]

That's what glass Cannon is for

[agile citrus]

pass. glass cannon makes me fall asleep. people say x mashers like gow are boring, but gc or dark soulsd gameplay is just roll, or hug wall till opening, hit and resume

reverse gameplay

[agile citrus]

but... I do have one. its backfire, 5 blue core, 4 pfe and survalist. striker chest/memento, unbrand holster

I only usei t for carrying

[stone python]

saw an agent slapping with this build

[gentle lichen]

looks good

[subtle bluff]

More or less the meta OD build.

Rpk seem like a weird choice to me but it works I know.

[subtle bluff]

Is it is action with imo better / simpler talents/lmg to run.

[stone python]

all the pieces have 10% is this a bug?

[subtle bluff]

No.

It was nerf so it's now max at 10%

[stone python]

:/

[subtle bluff]

It was a bit too good in PvP. It's not really useful in PvE

[strong cave]

They nerfed it down but buffed Yaahl 2 PC bonus

They should've just buffed it to 15% for Yaahl

[stone python]

Got this exotic is it any good?

[subtle bluff]

Yes if used right.

[meager fog]

You already proved that you can't use GC

[meager fog]

and that is a horrible build

[agile citrus]

I literaly used it in solo lego

your such a meme

go copy paste more builds from speddrunner spreadsheets

[meager fog]

You were asked to use full red GC in the first three areas of TB lego. You posted the first area and almost died several times.

[agile citrus]

I really want to be mean.. but I remembered Im a grown up. go ping other people

[meager fog]

You don't need to be mean, not lying would be a piece of character growth.

[agile citrus]

I never lie lol

[subtle bluff]

It's funny I saw him mention speedrunners spreadsheets. They don't even have spreadsheets.

They try most of there testing just trying it out.

[agile citrus]

let me "clarify" "speedrunner builds outlined on build site or lists"

[astral kraken]

why taking shots at speedrunners they are chill ppl

[agile citrus]

Im taking shots at dorky. theres a difference.

[subtle bluff]

Both major speedrun clans don't have a list. If you ask they show a build... Theu many not explaining as well as others but...

[agile citrus]

speedrunners are chill. while I have said their build trivialize normal gameplay, never had an issue with it

my own "meta" elmo carry for lego has overdogs, 4 piece striker and... uh I think FP I cant remember

☝️

[gentle lichen]

good morning everyone

[astral kraken]

^ this is the reset, let's all reset

[agile citrus]

agreed pppllllssss

[subtle bluff]

I hope you remember I have you on ignore. You're always are repeating yourself to a degree and it just looks spam to me now so ignored you so I don't see most of it anymore. I'll still click to look sometimes.

[agile citrus]

k

it would bother me, except... I aksed you why I didnt understand vector diff, and you repeated yourself like 7 times instead of asking questions. then reflex noticed and it was made clear instantly

this would just repeat in the future

[broken edge]

but it's night

[gentle lichen]

your presence is enlightening

was that good or should i leave

[broken edge]

it was alright

[agile citrus]

"it was all night" aha

[shy willow]

Half 9 in the morning here so technically

[foggy imp]

What gear set is more likely to have hazard protection rolled on it or is it random

[shy willow]

Attribute rolls are biased towards the colour of the core, but there's not a higher chance for any specific one

[agile citrus]

@hexed steppe -_- sooooo after my subconcience adapted to EB, you were right. it is easier. its has a dumb kick but only past like 30 ish meters. Im still gonna goof with it, but yyy you were right
@foggy imp blue cores have a higher affinity for blue rng attributes. same for red/red att and yellow. you cant "fix" it, the rng, but yyy. and only a "higher" chance

[worn imp]

Is there any meaningful difference between Lexington and Police M4?

[broken edge]

something like 5% damage

[foggy imp]

What’s the skill that people use that scans the enemy red and seems like it makes you deal more damage to them

[broken edge]

achilles pulse marks one body part to take headshot damage

[worn imp]

achilles pulse

[jade sphinx]

Can't tinker some of the gear items due to low expertise and other factors. It's a DPS build and as soon as I can adjust the Striker armor set I'll make it full reds. The SMG is a critical build, ran grenadier for the laser attachment. Swapped Coyote mask for the gloves, acquired a full blue body armor with regen and other survivability stats to offset the DPS and improve survivability, with the perk of instant 95% armor regen every 60 seconds upon armor depletion. Decoy for distraction, shield for minor damage reduction.

[foggy imp]

How do you get that?

[worn imp]

equip the sharpshooter specialization

[solar sable]

Want some wise advice? Don't waste your materials on applying Expertise to gear. You can put Proficiency in a secondary projects list, yes, but don't waste your mats on Expertise yet.

[broken edge]

Faye manhunt mission on camp white oak

[foggy imp]

Oh you can’t equip it like henkz said with the sharpshooter?

[broken edge]

it's nor part of the sharpshooter spec

[agile citrus]

its manhunt

[broken edge]

sharpshooter spec gives a drone that constantly pulses

[foggy imp]

Do you have to do it on master or any difficulty

[solar sable]

difficulty on that one doesn't matter

[worn imp]

oh snap i forgot mb

[agile citrus]

@jade sphinx full 30 expertise on 6 piece (30 is max expertise) gives you a whopping 1 blue core, about 170k armor points. it costs about 90 exo per piece. only do this if the set is perma and your so far in youv already done your weapons

[foggy imp]

Sweet thank you. Someone was using it earlier and I was hitting for over 3 mill with overdog gloves

[jade sphinx]

Yeah, I'm learning more on how to tinker my gear and stuff and had thousands of resources just sitting idle. Appreciate the forewarning of wasting them on it early, I'll stop here at level 2 as the resource demand is already in the hundreds.
I shared a build in here and got screamed at for it lol, I realized that I was not building smart but finally found a good spot for my playstyle so there's good improvements taking place.

[agile citrus]

if you were doing 3m it was prob overcharge pulse. it has the same effect as div 1, multpling your crit by 50%

achilles would be more like, 50m and its only 1 bullet, on the mark

[foggy imp]

Do you get that off the same mission

[agile citrus]

over charge pulse is done by having a talent that takes your skill teir 6, and pushes it to overcharge

btsu, kelso medic backpack, future perfect are exampls of these

once in overcharge, identified by a battery symbol sideways on your buffs with a lightning bolt in it, youll gain overcharge, gaining unusable bonuss to all skills for a limited time. overcharge has a global cd, meaning it cant be spammed by you or anyone with you

striker chest is now ded to me

[worn imp]

Is the damage from this build enough tho?

[agile citrus]

I can say this. I still get the memento drops in a heroic 4

[shy willow]

Memento gets worse the better your team is

[agile citrus]

^

[broken edge]

good piece for solo

[subtle bluff]

You have a clipn or a Pic of it?

[agile citrus]

in case you dont use memento a lot, its power and benefit is solely based on 3 things. you get the last dmg, you pick up the token loot, and you never go fully down, as in flat. there are a few ways to get the last dmg but in general its not easy to do if everyone is doing their thing. youll at best get 30% by the end

[gentle lichen]

Hold the phone it says on every skill what the overcharge effect is
It's either 15% or 20% amp damage to pulsed enemies

Though it double dips or even triples if you use flatline or flatline with spotter

[worn imp]

Is ongoing good solo?

[agile citrus]

wtf, I coulda sworn. oof

[worn imp]

good enough for legendary?

[agile citrus]

you need a status to get it going. I would use either banshe or just emp. I perfer emp as it works dogs and tanks, and bleed doesnt

also, weapons like scorpio and bluescreen are likely very complimentarily

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

[gentle lichen]

If you can't spare a skill slot using iron lung to burn and mark then hotswapping to your main has you getting the cycle going easily

[subtle bluff]

It's mid in leggo.

[agile citrus]

this isnt my expertise, averagereflex, averageplayer and mrchow are better for this

[worn imp]

lmao on queue!

[subtle bluff]

This is what Meta OD build does in solo.

[worn imp]

Why MG5?

[subtle bluff]

I have another with mk46

[worn imp]

still, im curious why. tbf what u use doesnt matter on heroic

[agile citrus]

a better question would be why bunny ears

[subtle bluff]

Cuz It's good. The reload speed is good.

[worn imp]

cause its extremely manly

[agile citrus]

not complaining, it made it better tbh. meta glamour for views

[gentle lichen]

don't talk to me or my dad ever again

[worn imp]

and chow is the man

[subtle bluff]

I mean this is my alt toon I don't use much.

[agile citrus]

this pic is fantastic LOL

[worn imp]

would u say heartbreaker is better in leggos? compared to OD?

[gentle lichen]

he has a clip of it doing kinda well i think

[subtle bluff]

Eh. OD is buffing your team too.

[subtle bluff]

Ya.... That's totally something else.

[gentle lichen]

though the whole gimmick of pulsing and the fact you can't stack from minitanks is a nerf

[agile citrus]

heartbreaker doesnt stack on tanks. lot of minitanks in lego. also the consistent range is kinda bad for hb pulse. but its viable

[subtle bluff]

I need to make full guide since the playstyle needed for it is rough.

[worn imp]

personally i like the bonus armor aspect of Heartbreaker, and the fact that its very fast to max to 50 stacks on this build: and i love memento

[agile citrus]

while hb doesnt stack on tanks a pulsed tank with eat hb dmg. it just wont climb, instead itll decay. so gotta shoot them after full stack and hope to global (kill fast) them

[foggy imp]

No I don’t. I just saw my damage numbers sky rocket for a few seconds and I was like what the heck

[subtle bluff]

Being more effective yes HB can. But it requires very different playstyle and understanding of how dmg is coming in.

[subtle bluff]

Where were you?

[worn imp]

Sooo dont focus on tanks mostly so u keep the stacks maxed?

[foggy imp]

Heroic countdown

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff This build is also wonderful cause it allows me to use intimidate

[subtle bluff]

I liked to say I'm a HB main but I've retired the HB build.

[agile citrus]

not focusing on tanks is a bad idea. they are deadly in lego. you want a full stack, then swap and kill one

[worn imp]

wym swap?

[agile citrus]

means change target when your ready

[subtle bluff]

There are global buffs and group buffs.

[worn imp]

ah yea ofc

[agile citrus]

-_- @subtle bluff he said it went up for a short burst

[worn imp]

I wish they added more weapon damage gear sets that kinda spice the "stacks formula" up a bit and arent just spam shoot to get max. I like when u have to think about how you are supposed to get the benefits of the gear set.

Tipping scales doesnt seem very exciting to me, ive read it and im like eh..... just hold LMB

[agile citrus]

@foggy imp because you were in an 8 man it could have been a lot of things tho. OD, the set I showed can buff you with special bullets, scorpio can buff 20%, strega can, FI can, theres far too many variables

[subtle bluff]

Could be the setup, OD, if seasonal buffs are there. Soo much the end story it's not just the build.

[foggy imp]

Yeah idk but it was happening randomly and I was just wiping out the rooms

[subtle bluff]

This is how I think HB is pushing limits.

[worn imp]

yeah man! HB is built different!

[worn imp]

i actually havent conciously thought about how i get stacks any more than "spam rock n roll to that guy and i get stacks"

any tips lol?

[agile citrus]

the "random sphere" dmg numbers is deeply offensive. Ima need the motion sickness setting

[gentle lichen]

not sure if its just me but stacking hb using anything other than acs is an absolute slog

[agile citrus]

smg is fine, but mostly yyyy

[worn imp]

yeah why tf is that? idunno why its so hard compared to striker

[agile citrus]

striker has rof buff in the set bonus

[subtle bluff]

Not using RnR. I use a ACS12 with brazen.

[worn imp]

potato potada, man. but got any tips?

[subtle bluff]

RPM buff and pulsing is its own thing.

[agile citrus]

you can also offset the rof with gunner, but most ppl use techinian laser on hb, which means they dont get it

[broken edge]

you need the target pulsed, so you either aim to the head, use the special laser or use pulse skill

and there is the skill proxies doesnt count

[worn imp]

u think the RPM holster in PTS is gonna be a good item for HB builds?

[subtle bluff]

No I’m serious it’s allows you to kill your target too and I use it for targets like tanks and hound to dps down.

[agile citrus]

you can pusle them and use the stack, it just wont grow on them

[gentle lichen]

it can be the budget 3pc striker we need in hb to better stack

[worn imp]

In my understanding HB is borderline unusable without technician. Is that notion wrong?

[subtle bluff]

No idea yet.

[broken edge]

it's wrong

you can still aim for the head and just use regular pulse skills

[subtle bluff]

^^^ this too

[worn imp]

huh that so. well thx for the suggestion!

[broken edge]

unusable is an very extreme stance

[gentle lichen]

some things like warhounds don't have heads though
youll face difficulty with some factions

[agile citrus]

not exactl;y. so 2 things.

• pulse (the normal one) +full meneto at experise 30 is almost unlimited
• memento+brazen asc12+dtooc is honestly enough dmg to clown a dog or tank

[worn imp]

interesting

[subtle bluff]

So my playstyle/mind set for HB is max your stack first then I’m just maintaining them afterwards.

[worn imp]

wym expertise 30

oh pulse expertise

[agile citrus]

expertise on skill increase a bonus unique to the skill. on pulse, it increases the duration. with the skill effeicncy of memento, 1 yellow core and 30% duration. your pulse lasts almost as long as the cd

[subtle bluff]

IMO scanner pulse isn’t worth it

[broken edge]

there is the nightwatcher mask which is usually a not intereting pick but works with this set by a miracle

and the technician does naturally fit

[worn imp]

? elaborate lmao

[broken edge]

so unless for some reason you really want ot use other specialization, tech is a good choice not just for laser but also because free skill tier to pulse skills

named mask with 100% scanner pulse cooldown

[agile citrus]

also worth noting is a pulse is one time. so if the dogs or tanks spawn after you use it, you on empty for it

[worn imp]

oh snap yeah true

[subtle bluff]

Tech works great so you can go tech tank

If you didn’t notice my clip I am take a lot of shots!

[worn imp]

why not switch coyotes to HB mask and use overdogs?

[subtle bluff]

This is just template and a old guide

[shy willow]

^ imo heartbreaker works best as a bruiser type red/blue hybrid

If you're gonna go all red just run striker

[agile citrus]

@worn imp which brings us back to this. gunner will provide +5% rof fire on kill, but lose laser. imo its worth it, cuz I use exotics on bh

[worn imp]

mixing blues and red cores is heresy dude.

[gentle lichen]

just have this guy with you in a team lmao

[shy willow]

It's heartbreaker's whole gimmick

[shy willow]

Wallhacks build

[worn imp]

strong disagree. the gimmick is all red bro

[agile citrus]

@worn imp

[subtle bluff]

Eh.. I had one or 2 reds

How I played it was very different

[worn imp]

lol im just joshing, anyone plays however they like

[subtle bluff]

By all means I was a “support” tank

[agile citrus]

this is what I use to carry heroic cd, cuz I never kick for shd or gear. it can solo the objective, tho I have yet to try to fully complete it. Im a bit lazy

[worn imp]

Wheres the pulse coming from?

[broken edge]

well heartbreaker comes with blue cores

[subtle bluff]

I was able to DPS and finish off low guys and since I could DPS I could hold some agro.

[broken edge]

so that should point out that mixing actually works with the set

[worn imp]

unfortunately lol

[agile citrus]

its not. I use brazen dtooc asc12 and memento to put down the old yellers

[worn imp]

the only blue cores that are acceptable are the ones on my memento

[shy willow]

Headshots it seems, which are extremely unreliable

[worn imp]

wtf i thought heartbreaker needed pulse source

[worn imp]

this

[agile citrus]

you can play however you like, but coming from someone who tried for 2 years to make hbr viable, red hb isnt worth imo

[shy willow]

Even if you have great aim there's a lot of targets that don't have heads

[worn imp]

bruhh

[subtle bluff]

How I look at it for building to full agreed but to just maintain stacks it works fine.

[agile citrus]

-_-

[worn imp]

i read ur message. Im agreeing with the other guy that i think its unreliable

[agile citrus]

ok, so we are clear, you dont use pulse on dogs and tanks. you just kill them

[subtle bluff]

I just need to make a Bruise HB guide.

[worn imp]

depending defo on the situation tho tbf

[subtle bluff]

Or make a video.

[worn imp]

I run memento. I think the heals u get from memento + the bonus armor is enough.

@subtle bluff for HB: Does the ceska backpack with vigilance out-DPS memento on 30 stacks and with token pickup buff?

[agile citrus]

you may not object to my halloween costume btw

[shy willow]

At a guess I would say yes

HB is quite a crit starved set and TWD is a separate multiplier from AWD

[subtle bluff]

Memento is Very strong if you’re doing tech tank way

[shy willow]

Yeah it works a lot better when you have some blues

[subtle bluff]

Solo HB and Team BP are different for me.

I think that’s the biggest thing.

[worn imp]

For solo HB, would u recommend memento setup?

[subtle bluff]

I’d go overdogs just to get more dmg out

Both work

[worn imp]

how much more u reckon?

[subtle bluff]

Idk I haven’t picked up HB but I’d assume not bad amount.

I’d be curious running with Dark Winter how it would feel.

[worn imp]

Is chameleon or St. Elmo the best Crit based AR dps wise?

[solar sable]

Elmos doesn't require any stacking to deal dmg like Chameleon does

plus with Chameleon it's kinda hard to build and maintain stacks

[worn imp]

does chameleon reach higher numbers with relative ease tho? it did get buffed not long ago

[worn imp]

DPS wise, would Elmos do better than a Lexington with killer procced?

[bold leaf]

No

[solar sable]

nope, Elmos talent isn't dmg based, it just gives shock ammo

[worn imp]

i thought it stil might do better cause of the godlike attachments

[solar sable]

it's great for its stability and mag size, nothing else

[solar sable]

I haven't tried anything with Chameleon yet, so I can't tell

[agile citrus]

cham is exetremely strong. on par with bh

[worn imp]

pog !

[agile citrus]

me and meme16, did a speed run of lincon right after cham was buffed. I didnt know there was a buf so I figured, ez match. but no, due to the buff we both did 5 min. but I was like 20 sec more

[subtle bluff]

Killer is so strong if you can keep it up.

[worn imp]

stronger than cham in general?

[subtle bluff]

Chameleon needs a few things for it to be good.

HB Lex w/killer or Dark Winter for dps.

[agile citrus]

what might be more fair is to use cham you need to be close range. in lego this isnt likely

elmo/bh and cham are very close, but elmo beats them both cuz its consistent

but not by al ot

[agile citrus]

also cham is bad for hb. cuz you should be hsing, and cham has to shoot 3 centers for its buff to pay out

[worn imp]

is flatline stronger than killer for HB? if im doing a gunner version with the pulse haste mask and scanner pulse?

[subtle bluff]

Again it’s all about how active you keep it up. IMO

I… just don’t like gunner scanner idea.

[worn imp]

i think its funny

and im gonna try it lmao

[agile citrus]

killer uses "on kill" and has a 10 sec timer. pulse is consistent but weaker

[worn imp]

k

[subtle bluff]

I’ve tried it and hated it.

If it works for you go for it

[agile citrus]

if going to go gunner, try for an exo. the reason people use other guns is either lmg or laser pointer

[worn imp]

eh lexi with killer is insane man

[subtle bluff]

I actually like Cham on HF

[worn imp]

but ill go with Chameleon i guess.

[subtle bluff]

It was really fun and it freaking recks

[worn imp]

hunters fury??? whyyy? it doesnt give AR bonus damage

[shy willow]

I had a lot of fun using cham on a heartbreaker setup

[agile citrus]

^ @worn imp you have to empty 1 clip into legs, 2 into body and 1 into head. only hs pusle

and thats assuming you hit everythnig

[shy willow]

Let's you be stupid tanky with very respectable damage but I was essentially locked to sharpshooter

[worn imp]

very good point about the headshots

[agile citrus]

@worn imp this is a good tactic, the sniper drone is a good add on. but 1 note. the only time this matters is vs skill and dogs and objectives.... also if you use controller.

[worn imp]

But why u advising i use Exo ARs if not a chameleon??

[agile citrus]

I use a bighorn, elmo is good, backfire is good, bluescreen is good

[shy willow]

You don't have to use an exotic AR or any exotic for that matter

But as far as exotics go generally the assault rifles are pretty good

[agile citrus]

that just what I use. you should use what you like. we can only tell you how it works in effective combat

[shy willow]

Strega, Elmo, EB, Bighorn and all

[agile citrus]

speaking of which... meehehehehe strega +od

[worn imp]

never heard strega is good even once

[agile citrus]

Idc what anyone says. strega is bighorns lil girlfriend. she makes everyone else as strong as her man

[worn imp]

how are they related lmao

[shy willow]

It's great idk who told you it wasn't lmao

Especially when you rack up stacks

[subtle bluff]

Hold on let me get someone post a url for the run

[worn imp]

im sure its great but it feeeels wrong

[agile citrus]

cuz you have to be good to get use out of it. like killer strega is "on kill" effect. meaning teammates can steal it.. but if your ALL STREGA!!! but anyway, it also has nonexistent crit, which means heavy stat investment

imo its a good hs weapon.

you can replace every piece with hbr, and youd be fine.

[shy willow]

https://youtu.be/2mPJ6m3m0Ws?si=85GLOtwl5Zu4ZAV7

Chow's run

[subtle bluff]

HF Cham

[worn imp]

using HF when it doesnt give u AR dmg bonus is heretical in my holy book of division building. I shall cling to my holy book

[shy willow]

Someone tell this guy about HHF

[subtle bluff]

Heh heh I have one of those runs too

[worn imp]

BRO thats my main build

but i use a shotgun

[worn imp]

cause its gigachad to use a shotgun

[shy willow]

Regulus completes it tbh the shotgun is just there for big bois

Idk if they fixed it as well but when you have any hh stacks and swap to a shotgun it instantly maxes your stacks for whatever reason

[gentle lichen]

The headhunter bonus scales for the pellet damage not the total 8 pellets
It's low enough such that any weapon that has high base damage can max it out with even 1/4 of its stack on regulus for example

[shy willow]

Ohhh right

[worn imp]

still bloody amazing and very legendary viable

[gentle lichen]

It makes it way better

[worn imp]

@gentle lichen are u called that cause u like the mask? lol

[gentle lichen]

Because it's been """""fixed""""" 5 times and you still can break it
Nothing Ever Happens™

[worn imp]

whats been fixed 5 times? the mask?

[gentle lichen]

yes in every patch after the release of it they kept saying they fixed it but again nothing ever happens

[subtle bluff]

It's fixed now finally from what I've seen.

[cloud laurel]

I didn’t know you can active modifier in manhunt…… making so stupidity OP AF

With the OP build, you can spread anything in manhunt kelso….

[devout iris]

what build should i use in the solo tidal basin climax mission here on master difficulty

[meager fog]

Any red dps

[subtle bluff]

Gonna be honest this master is much harder than then last 2.

Even more solo

[devout iris]

i mean the final area is worse

[wraith zealot]

any good build involving ouro? reply to this with mention ill check it out in the morning. Thank you in advance.

[cerulean smelt]

was discussing NBB build in general. if you want RPM on it Ninja Bag Backpack, 3 umbra, 2 strikers and listen to your ouro scream!

[agile citrus]

smgs follow basic striker or hf, the difference being you run all crit dmg due to smgs having inatate max crit chance. 10%+ watch, 21+ attribute, 15% mod, is like 46%, I think oreo has 2 crit chance mods. but need ot check @wraith zealot

so, insert set, (striker or hf) gunner, overdogs, memento, ect. brand chest for obl or fp knees

🤔 od might be funny cuz I think it synergizes with oreo extra stuff filling

[scarlet ridge]

B+ BUT! i am a "hardcore-casual" so there is a TON of room for optimizing. I did a few runs today with this build based on what you mentioned and keeping with the gear themes. Have some blues in there just for survival but those can be changed out for pure CHD. I went with the Rifle+LMG with gunner and since it the high end of the tier as far as the score goes. I think this is a versatile buiild that you can adjust to anyone's playstyle. I just threw it together today and will be adjusting it as a keeper since i had a ton of fun playing it today. thanks for the suggestion!

[gentle lichen]

What is this

I'm a visual learner

[cerulean smelt]

i play this with AR/SUB and purely weapon cores. My opinion this is much better than strikers because you only build up the AR strained talent otherwise you're at maximum damage already and strikers is just playing catch up to you. again my personal opinion. as i know people will be like "Strikers blah blah blah"

[strong cave]

Ah yes, ol reliable

[strong cave]

I'm gonna be that guy-

High end is better for up front damage

Strikers is better after like half stacks (which won't take long... ACS12, looking at you)

[cloud laurel]

You want to know how your build really work? Dual dua leg with me. Your build vs mine and see who end up better in dmg and such. I’m open to challenge anyone with HE build vs mine build

[gentle lichen]

atp i'm thinking you just want a friend to play with

[cloud laurel]

Do you accept my challenge?

[cerulean smelt]

why?

[cloud laurel]

Dw abt my main, my alt can always kill those think HE are better

[radiant dirge]

Yo , What’s people thought on system corruption in pvp and also as non headshot build ?

[cloud laurel]

Why? You said HE in your opinion are better than stinker so I’m challenging you

[cerulean smelt]

system corruption was dead on arrival back when it first released. best you can do is try and be a nuisance

[cloud laurel]

It’s funny when people all saying this and that and when I’m challenging, you all look the other way

[cerulean smelt]

what's wrong with my opinion? striker for the most part form 0 stacks is catching up on damage with the high end, but after a certain point it shines

[radiant dirge]

I gave it a run in conflict a little and it kinda worked , wasn’t terrible but worked enough to get average damaged and stay alive but I wanted to get a expand idea on it before I fully commit to the pieces

[cerulean smelt]

can ask @strong cave about their build

[meager fog]

Stinker 🤣

[radiant dirge]

I would appreciate that thank you 🙏

[cloud laurel]

I have fatty thumb 👍

[cerulean smelt]

funny thing is you already challenge people wtih something you probably run vs someone who doesn't run it? just for you ego to get bigger?

[cloud laurel]

Yep bc all HE are trash so don’t misleading players

[radiant dirge]

Once you get enough it can truly run people down so Yhh, just the time it takes to build them stacks

[cloud laurel]

But then again, just word without action proving nothing

[verbal gust]

Well if we had a set build named stinker I could see your argument. But. Idk

[meager fog]

Strikers is objectively stronger than High End.

But that doesn't mean all high end builds are trash lol

[strong cave]

I mean, it worked pretty well back then but most was running the In Sync shield build

[cloud laurel]

For dps, all HE are trash, you’re welcome to dual dua leg with me with your HE

[hazy steeple]

It's true, all high-end builds are.....wait, Determined, no I didn't mean itasdasdasdasd

[cerulean smelt]

why it's my opinion. at the beginning the build just does damage. only stacking mechanic built in it is the strained
Striker has to gain stacks to catch up to that damage then it over passes it at some point. wehn i don't know i've played both builds and still preferr the he over striker

[cloud laurel]

Beside rifle 1 shot

[hazy steeple]

FMJ would like to have a word with you.
and your kneecaps.

[strong cave]

I've got a multitude of builds that sorta work for what it is

[strong cave]

Yo great run on Leggo dua btw 💯👌

[verbal gust]

Ima take a page out of chows book rn he taught me well: any build will work if it has synergies.

[strong cave]

Chow the goat 🐐

[meager fog]

Everything is viable. Not everything is good.

[cloud laurel]

Ohh! That’s you! lol

[radiant dirge]

I’m agreeing with you it works both ways bud

[hazy steeple]

That's mean, chow has way less hair than that.

[radiant dirge]

Alrighty

[strong cave]

😂😂 don't you mean Local?

[meager fog]

Only because he spent alot of time in here pulling it out 🤣

[verbal gust]

It’s a metaphor I think.

[hazy steeple]

Oy. 🫤

[verbal gust]

You can find all the builds in our pinned on this page.

[strong cave]

Give me like, 5-10 mins to make the templates for you. I don't have ss's rn

[meager fog]

Trying to get AIs to understand metaphors....

[hazy steeple]

Hi, it looks like you're trying to communicate with a sophisticated speak+spell.

[verbal gust]

What is Alexa?

[hazy steeple]

I’m sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have the ability to access or analyse specific offers or websites

[meager fog]

I'm going to go ask my alexa see if I can get her to agree to a date with Rivens

[hazy steeple]

say "snitch" to unsubscribe from div2 facts.

[meager fog]

I think we're off topic now lol

[strong cave]

Thank god div isn't full of AI slop 🙏

[verbal gust]

I know a specific division ai wouldn’t be happy to hear that.

[gentle lichen]

i'm not a big of the government

[meager fog]

I tried Rivens..... lol

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKqAsA2EAGFbUfegXJa1UIIAOArTCnPcKGGyY8py5bATlsOe5d1TIgse5PpxpCJIsAHZUcGMCTA2SttJhtGyjr2CN5wSAaL8k0nVLjRgAVhBJJFbAnYwDD5tnXBYjoA

Ouro + Sys. It's a facefight monster. If you're fighting spotter builds just take a pulse res mod. Or heartbreaker. In groups I'd say run 3 reds 3 blues. You can swap to ceska and run an AR version. You could go full HSD and armor and use Belstone chest with either unbreakable or intim. I prefer unbreakable. Swap coyote to catharsis if you go the HSD/Bighorn route

[verbal gust]

You could put ridgeways as well

[strong cave]

Tinkerer works for the build as well if you combine the right AR talents. I don't recommend this for DZ. Not even conflict unless you're playing against anti-meta builds

[strong cave]

I haven't tried that but you'd likely be out DPS'd that close range in group fights

[verbal gust]

True unless you invest in more damage

[strong cave]

Sys holds its own in 1v1s and occasionally 1v2's. I've done 1v4 with EB before. It's super hard tho

It sounds corny but sys quite literally is the hardest set to master. It's all about positioning and timing

It sounds OP on paper but in actual practice, it's probably the hardest set to use in any content. PvP especially due to the lack of other gear balancing

[verbal gust]

Then there is the stinker set. 4 piece stinker with momento and ceska w obliterate. Yeah.

[strong cave]

Yup I'm the prick who solo manhunts with that in DZ. Super super fun winning 1v6's with max stacks and EB tenacity 😂

Whole server calling cheats 😂

[gentle lichen]

slop will not be mentioned in these sacred grounds

[cerulean smelt]

not to mention the chaos of things happening as well

[strong cave]

Ain't nobody ask for your opinion Chum Bucket 👌😂 (please know that I'm joking)

[cerulean smelt]

probably get reported for they become invulnerable while we fight them

[strong cave]

The only chaos I have is first conflict queue on I get met with a Pesti build. Sus damage. Come to find out they was cheating

[verbal gust]

Stack up enough stinker stack and you get a huge damage boost what do you mean? Best set in the game atm

[strong cave]

2.2m armor doesn't disappear after 1 shot from pesti

[radiant dirge]

Alrighty, thank you very much

[verbal gust]

Pre bugged lack luster exotic knees says different

[cerulean smelt]

old pestilence cloud damage? 👀

[gentle lichen]

building up my stinker stacks so i can stink all over the enemy

[strong cave]

I'd really love to know if they worked in dz. I'm genuinely curious

[verbal gust]

Yeah idk I tried them they didn’t seem to bug out maybe it’s because of the different zones when you fast traveled reset the stacks

Didn’t get enough time to stay in the dz to build up neither

[strong cave]

If you wanna go the route of momento for DZ landmark farming, run all 4 PCs as armor and crits and use Sokolov with intimidate. The bonus armor from memento counts towards the damage buffs sys gets with bonus armor

[strong cave]

When fast traveling it would reset stacks, yes

[verbal gust]

Yess I called that build my stinker cloud stacker. Yea

[strong cave]

Those hyenas finna be huffing farts... Wait didn't they always? The clouds are always green

[hazy steeple]

finna?

[foggy imp]

Is it better to run gunner with momento or is it better to run technician for the extra skill tier on top of momento

[gentle lichen]

Depends on build

[cerulean smelt]

more context to build would help

[scarlet ridge]

I’m not a PvPer, but that would be interesting to see a 1v1

[solar sable]

I'd say Gunner for AoK, run whatever you like and context is also something you should share

[solar sable]

context means what content are you planning on playing

[cerulean smelt]

specializations is more of a playstyle these days. if you like the 3 tier shield run it with technician. if you don't care go gunner route

[solar sable]

wait, wouldn't it be great to use Firewall for Striker Shield?

[gentle lichen]

Totes

[solar sable]

it benefits from blues and skill tiers

[gentle lichen]

Shields in general benefit in a lot of ways from memento

[cerulean smelt]

funnily enough i haven't tried a shield build with Sheriff yet, think it migth do well, but as is, think it's probably just bugged anyways

[gentle lichen]

It's gonna be so great with headhunter i can already see it

[verbal gust]

I hope the sheriff never gets changed the thing is a beast.

[gentle lichen]

Why use white death when you can unleash 8 pellets from narnia

[cerulean smelt]

nods what i saw of it liked but i'd like it more if wether you moving or standing still or in cover it'd just do that small circle

[verbal gust]

Yeah that alone needs fixing or adjusting or maybe better context in the talent description.

[cerulean smelt]

striker alone with that shot gun is going to be a beast

[gentle lichen]

Btw double barrel seems to be the only shotgun that has that niche with the accuracy

[gentle lichen]

Inb4 people complaining about round by round reload

[foggy imp]

Legendary/ master mission and heroic countdown for the higher rolled stuff. So firewall for the shield bonus ?

[solar sable]

I mean you can try and use it, it's worth a shot

[foggy imp]

Also nice that you set them on fire with armor break

[hazy steeple]

highest DPS gun in div2 still, IIRC.

[verbal gust]

Like @cerulean smelt said it’s a play style it really doesn’t make or break your build as long as you have the appropriate weapon buff.

[cerulean smelt]

i wouldn't doubt it Rivens

[gentle lichen]

They butchered the reload speed on the primary

Less sustain by a lot

[hazy steeple]

I love how that statement is both correct, and so very wrong.
It's the perfect example of why context matters for builds, and how damage doesn't exist in a vacuum.

[cerulean smelt]

which statement?

[verbal gust]

Heh? For which?

[hazy steeple]

Did I really need to reply to my own comment?

Oh forget it.

[cerulean smelt]

oh about the double barrel? 😹

[verbal gust]

Sorry I was just confused multiple things were being discussed my fault I apologize.

[foggy imp]

I mean my weapon is at 9 expertise but wouldn’t it be more about getting the trophies

[solar sable]

expetise is just nice to have, it doesn't actually say much about your dmg

[verbal gust]

Not all the time trophy buff lasts 5 min

[cerulean smelt]

the 5 min trophy is the grey memento icon which is usually used for cool downs of talents and what not

[gentle lichen]

Cqb memento players enjoy short term buffs too which are equally as good

-# or kill targets in invalid areas for trophies to spawn in so it can drop right on your agent :3

You didn't hear it from me though

[cloud laurel]

What are you talking about? I’m also not a PvP……………

[scarlet ridge]

Misread dual as duel. 😜 I just do my DPS at the range, 5-7 10 second bursts. Take the median. As far as most in a group, that comes down to tactical placement and a little bit o’luck.

[cerulean smelt]

personally i think knowing where the spawn placements are helps a ton

[scarlet ridge]

Thanks for that suggestion btw. Inspired this build for me. 🫡

[cerulean smelt]

which? the highend build?

[cloud laurel]

I’ve closed my memory for this spawn area and blindly shot when they’re out. Why memorizing and take away the fun, this is also why I don’t like solo and speedrun. Nothing is special when you memorized what to take out first and where the next spawn will be. Off topic: try wow speedrun and I’ll gladly take up for a challenge.

[cloud laurel]

Range isn’t the same as field and how you performed or your playstyle anyway

[scarlet ridge]

Yup. My field tests are for Utility, Survivability, Synergy

[subtle bluff]

Use the DPS sheet in the pinned messages to get an accurate calculation of your DPS

[scarlet ridge]

I know the max, I test at the range to see how my accuracy with the mouse/controller is with the recoil, and that’s a better gauge IMO than the calculated DMG output.

[cerulean smelt]

you're more of the feeling of a build than looking at a spreadsheet with numbers at perfection. i tend to do that myself honestly

[scarlet ridge]

That why I call myself a “hardcore-casual” don’t mind the theorycraft/meta but it’s always the skill issue factor that matter more with a build imo. I run heroic+ all day, but my skill on Legendary is trash. 🤷‍♂️

[cerulean smelt]

think i've effectively cheesed 3 legendary runs. Dua the easiest to cheese, the other 2 before zoo can probably semi cheese in some spectacular fashion of some sort

[silent storm]

Alright so I got it fitted right, but should I get another Capacitor with a different 3rd attribute that helps skills more? One with DTA maybe?

[subtle bluff]

It has DTA already on it....

[agile citrus]

When you cheese something and are proud of it. Adds up

[agile citrus]

He asked for a secondary weapon choice. The weapon stat show cased with dta is the cap. It says the talent at the bottom I was stupid here, but he said "dta" or "damage to armor" I blanked and thought dtooc

[agile citrus]

For the record harmony And cap effect are almost identical buffs. You might consider future perfect since you have Mario kart pistol

[cerulean smelt]

@strong cave look at that, i got 5 pcs!

[gentle lichen]

this build inconveniences me

[strong cave]

Rough 😭

The chest is useless. I'd decon that right away

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, all recalibrated too

done, 1 piece and i can make a pair of gloves

[strong cave]

Gloves will drop with red. Be very careful. It's a gamble

[gentle lichen]

remember when sys cor is kil

[strong cave]

Chest/Bag/Knees = blue cores
Holster/Mask/Gloves = red cores

[strong cave]

Keep those pieces you have. I may need you for a Sys Corr DH run

👉😎👉

[cerulean smelt]

why do you think i looked if i had any sys corr?

[strong cave]

We gotta make this happen 😂

[cerulean smelt]

[strong cave]

That's honestly impressive for sys Corr losing a hell of a lot of attributes

[cerulean smelt]

there we go
dropped a disrupt resist mod for a ensnare

[strong cave]

Good news is you'll never lose your skills 👌

[subtle bluff]

So I messed with DPS sheet if anyone wants to check out to help me double check I did everything right. You use be able just use off the bad without having to make a copy now.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FaDDfFIqOgdTfceG2ByFvmgStZ6K7whC-7LdND6WXL0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[strong cave]

99.9% pulse res...
Hmmmmm...

Somebody is too broke to afford the .1% it seems

[cerulean smelt]

more like too lazy to farm it

i could be that guy running around with cooler soaking you though 😹

[silent storm]

You can't reroll the third attribute for more? Honestly never paid attention to if that is possible or not.

@agile citrus I like Harmony because it is different ammo that will give me basically same effect.

[strong cave]

It's too niche of a mod, you're not missing much by choosing not to have it

Also, squirt gun

[subtle bluff]

It's the same reason you can put DTTooC on LMGs..

[cerulean smelt]

just think i follow and squirt you, we both keep our skills 😹

[strong cave]

There's a typo in chows message, he means you can't put DTTOC on an LMG. Already comes with it. Imagine 20% DTTOC on a gun...

[strong cave]

Somebody will come along and take this out of context. Just you wait

[cerulean smelt]

or 30% with smart cover?

[strong cave]

Oh shit the old man is here and bros got div loaded up. LOCALLLLLL

[silent storm]

I run all my Smart Covers with DttooC

[hexed steppe]

why yall squirting eachother

[strong cave]

Join the fun my dude 👉 😎 👉

[strong cave]

Run it with umbra 👌

[agile citrus]

I forgot you like rifles. Smol admit... That my load out on my yellow striker. I like the weapon diff too. I think my offhand is a future perfect 93r

[hexed steppe]

probably should take it to dm. family friendly server and all 😂

[strong cave]

😂😂

@cerulean smelt told you somebody would take it out of context 😂 .... Just didn't expect it to be Local 😂

[hexed steppe]

make sure i get an invite to the dm

[strong cave]

😜

[silent storm]

I do have a pistol with Future Perfect on it that I run sometimes but honestly not needed for most content

[hexed steppe]

do i even want to know why L05T is investing in system corruption

[strong cave]

You missed a hell of a lot. Long story short, the convo you missed was about sys corr. People had questions, curiosities, so I put out information for em all. Then I said I'm still trying to scrape people together for a worlds first Dark Hours System Corruption raid. It's never been done before, at least not documented. Would love to make a YT video on it

I think it would be super fun to see. We see hardcore players doing Incursion Solo on Hardcore... Why not see a dead set clear such an Iconic raid?

[silent storm]

@agile citrus

[strong cave]

Future perfect on harvest is such a waste

[agile citrus]

I like 93r SMG likeness but yyy it rocks

[onyx sage]

it's not rerolled yet so he can pick another talent

[agile citrus]

I think my harvest right now is pretending to be an orbit. I can't bring myself to farm enough CD's to get one.

[silent storm]

I have so many Harvest I don't need to reroll this one

[strong cave]

Even Orbit > Harvest.

Only use harvest actually has is for either Flatline 1 shot boss methods for raids or determined on HH builds. It's a literal pocket cannon

[silent storm]

I just like the D50 because you can do good DMG and it is a big buffer

[strong cave]

I'd highly suggest it bc bro will not be getting any kills to gain any skill tiers. Let alone swapping weapons cancels the talent last I recall. Unless I'm dumb and completely wrong

[strong cave]

D50 got tanked hard. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the 686 Magnum better than D50?

Bc I know for sure D50 isn't the best anymore

[silent storm]

Whatever the Harvest is based on

[strong cave]

The magnum lol

[silent storm]

Same difference

[strong cave]

So why pick a worse gun?

[subtle bluff]

I put on my Back-up boomstick

[strong cave]

I run brazen on mine, or killer

[agile citrus]

At skill tier 6, he's using it for skill DMG heals, hell immediately overcharge

[strong cave]

But if I'm pulling out backup boom stick, I'm cooked

[silent storm]

Harvest has boosted DMG and HSD

[subtle bluff]

I mean mine is on backup for a skill build

[subtle bluff]

Harvest has a only WD buff on no HSD extra.

[strong cave]

BTSU:
Birdies:
Acosta's:

[agile citrus]

When using a pocket overcharge, you tend to sit on it till enemy is low, swap kill, and forget their ded body fueled your success

[subtle bluff]

It looks like that due how in-game stats show it

[silent storm]

Pistols have innate HSD

[subtle bluff]

How much?

[agile citrus]

The OC will carry after weapon swap, cuz gcd

[cerulean smelt]

i might need some Fiftysdeath Sys Corr training 😹

[silent storm]

What like 40%

[strong cave]

It's only my favorite set that I spent hundreds of hours researching how to get it, how it works, best use methods, and literal experience purposely maining it in PvP

[subtle bluff]

how much does a rifle have?

[agile citrus]

I think, I could be wrong not in game but I think FP has a lower gcd and a shorter duration on OC

[silent storm]

Rifle doesn't

[strong cave]

I mean, hell, the only build I dumped expertise into the pieces WAS sys Corr. 3/3 setup with 1.6m armor is just broken

[agile citrus]

Than btsu or the others

[subtle bluff]

Where are you getting 40 from?

[silent storm]

Added maybe not percent

[onyx sage]

100% is the actual value btw

[agile citrus]

^

[silent storm]

I know Pistol does more HSD

[agile citrus]

On my regulus build I have to have 1 HS, 3 mods

[silent storm]

And when an enemy is weak The Harvest cleans it up nice for OC

[subtle bluff]

Show us where you think this coming from.

[silent storm]

But honestly I like running fast so I don't use it often

[subtle bluff]

I pretty sure I know what is it you just over look things.

[agile citrus]

I'm mad cuz I want hh 1886 for my hardcore, but to buff 60% I need like 7 investment. And I don't want to. So am going legmos, explosive reduction, HS, hh talent, determined sr-1, gunner, 4 striker all hazpro and backfire with pfe

HC will be challenging only so it'll be fine. The DMG counters were already tested

[silent storm]

Getting in position for dropping my turret and then getting out safely on Refactor is more beneficial than an over charge on a 90 second cooldown

Sport Mode allows that easier

[subtle bluff]

ramble ramble

[gentle lichen]

is this allowed in the raid

[agile citrus]

@subtle bluff he didn't really say anything too wrong, just weird semantics. Pistols in general have above average HS. Prob close to 40% over rifle, (60%) or ar (50%?)

[strong cave]

I mean... Sure.. but we need all the DPS we can get 😂

[gentle lichen]

capacitor is right there and like 2 yellows

[strong cave]

I just realized... How the hell are we gonna do Drone Jamming at razorback 💀

[agile citrus]

"allowed" is questionable, morbid curiosity prob closer

[strong cave]

Everybody could run EMP pulse at the razorback I guess 😂

[gentle lichen]

rotate it between the guys in the circle

[strong cave]

I've got more planning with this idea of mine than I initially thought 💀

Might be a smart move to sit down one day and get a plan in mind before organizing goons to try this 😂

Otherwise it'll be dark hours but we kiss the airport concrete

[gentle lichen]

the harder thing is getting people who are willing to farm it

[strong cave]

Or even have it

[cerulean smelt]

@strong cave decent dps?

[strong cave]

Damn good crit, can't even lie

[cerulean smelt]

dropped the haz pro and went chance on gears and ceska chest

[strong cave]

I'd argue just take an AKM with strained. We need all the damage we can get

Burst DPS weapons might not help us out much

[cerulean smelt]

first sight work? 😹

[strong cave]

Could be wrong. Everything about this is so unknown

[gentle lichen]

hit me up when you get people going

[strong cave]

It'll have to be on PC :(

[gentle lichen]

i'll be there in the channel for moral support

[strong cave]

😂

I might be able to craft red kneepads and go full red. That's assuming I drop the backpack. I can abuse the kits for the weapon damage boosts. Not sure tho. I'll likely just take Vigi

[strong cave]

Wonder how Overdogs would make that build perform on PvE

Yk what I'm gonna try that tomorrow

[gentle lichen]

woo i just did a convoy in 2 minutes with that build

[strong cave]

That's only half as efficient as striker. THERES HOPE!

[cerulean smelt]

i'm jealous!

[silent storm]

What do you guys think? Good use of this Backbone?

[hexed steppe]

no, use tech support there

there is no focus on wd at all, so increasing total weapon damage isnt as strong as increasing total skill damage

especially when your skill damage also relates to heals

[silent storm]

But I get WD to 90% from skill tier and I get 35% more from kills

[hexed steppe]

no, you get 45% from skilltier... but you also have no crit to mention so its all base weapon damage that youre boosting

[silent storm]

But I have decent Drone and turret

[hexed steppe]

it would be more useful if you used crit rolls. right now its a waste compared to alternatives

[subtle bluff]

WD doesn't do much if you're not crit'ing a lot,

[silent storm]

But I only lose either 10% Skill Haste or 8% Skill DMG

For a possible 35% WD

[hexed steppe]

???

[subtle bluff]

Skill Haste value here isn't worth much.

[hexed steppe]

you lose 25-30% total skill damage not using a skill based talent

[subtle bluff]

I've post my refactor in front of him a ton and didn't even look at them before.

[hexed steppe]

traded for an inferior weapon talent.

[silent storm]

I was using Combined Arms

[hexed steppe]

thats much better

go back to that

[hexed steppe]

if you hybrid with crit rolls , thats another story, the unstoppable becomes useful

[silent storm]

Gonna make a random suffer through my Backbone build on matchmaking lol

just to see how it does on Legendary

[subtle bluff]

At that point Memento is way better

[hexed steppe]

they probably wont notice since theyll be carrying with a striker overdog

[subtle bluff]

Kind of messed up not really funny to us.

[hexed steppe]

youll be lumped in with the rookies that think hw seeker is good in legs

situation normal

its all fun and games till a chunga just kicks the shit out of every seeker and lets their hive eat

[subtle bluff]

HEY HW can be used.. If they know what there doing...

[hexed steppe]

its not good tho. probably better in an organized group... randoms, nah

i dont even bother with mortar in legs , even tho im a solid mortar guy

[subtle bluff]

But also I use a very off looking HW build.

[hexed steppe]

i probably copied it for just tooling around

were you the seeker healer hw

[cloud laurel]

Have any of you play refactor? This setup is bad and misleading. You can’t hotswap for birdie, you can’t heal without the chest and if you want dps, why not play dps instead of using support and mix? Waste time and resources

[cerulean smelt]

@strong cave maybe this will help with the damage?

[subtle bluff]

Here's proof of running it. In no modifiers tidal with 3 strikers. RMM.

This is just proof. Of concept for the different way to run the build.
I don't think this is for experience players I think this is for newer players or players are wanting to learn how to do legendary.

[gentle lichen]

No vigi hurts

[cloud laurel]

Tidal know bug summary anyway

[subtle bluff]

I can run one more again... Hard to find without modifiers.

[cloud laurel]

Inv me I’m on

[subtle bluff]

If someone joins or leave in the middle of it sure but I've never heard anything about a specific mission having it bugged.

I have to put the build together again I don't keep around. But sure I guess.

[cloud laurel]

Okay, in tidal I have 200 kills but dmg go to someone else less kills than me by 100 or less. Now tell me, it’s a bug or something else?

[cloud laurel]

Wow this is amazing, so many build could use this ROF

[subtle bluff]

Steal killing by shooting?

[cloud laurel]

lol okay

[subtle bluff]

Like I said I never heard of a bug. If were different per players sure then I'd report the bug and see what's going on

[silent storm]

So not sure about these guys builds or ability but we beat it and did alright. Though I think my Backbone Refactor build is more suited to solo as the buff time is too short for group play. Definitely maxing this backpack though for solo and using it.

[cloud laurel]

So you’re saying I’m steal kill 200+ that’s fair

[subtle bluff]

okay as in finishh not hardcore stealing

I am not trying call you out or anything here.

[hexed steppe]

buff being one your build cant even use anyways?

[subtle bluff]

Looks like one person carried 2 people and you were holding your own. So idk

[hexed steppe]

now run some crit stats and see how it does. if you have enough damage with capacitor it should keep talent up, otherwise youre self nerfing for no real benefit

[silent storm]

Yeah, the buff time was too short though for bosses. But all in all when I had max stacks I was slaying

[hexed steppe]

for example, you could use vigilance and see betetr weapon damage overall.. still a waste, but less so

[silent storm]

I mean I did a bil SD with 700 mil healing

[hexed steppe]

you can do as much skill damage with nego dps. .. just imagine how much more healing and skill damage you wouldve done adding a 30% amp to it

[subtle bluff]

Fine.. I'll put my refactor build back together..

[hexed steppe]

i dont want to come across as jerky here, but how much weapon damage did you do? and did it justify using unstoppable

[silent storm]

Why Empathic Resolve on third set? I thought that healing+ didn't matter on Refactor

[subtle bluff]

Because it works with refactor repair.

[silent storm]

Really

[hexed steppe]

solid team buff

[silent storm]

Yeah it is

[subtle bluff]

Read the body... It's support version.

[hexed steppe]

new knees be good on refactor, right?

[silent storm]

So this would be good on Refactor?

[subtle bluff]

Repair skill does nothing for refactor

[subtle bluff]

dunno. It could I guess.

[silent storm]

But the kit you posted has repair skill

[subtle bluff]

oops that's should either Skill Dmg, CHC/CHD

I've been meaning to make a guide for it. This is very throw together post that I saved.

[silent storm]

Tell people if they have the old Backbone still then that is a good solo Refactor piece

[subtle bluff]

It's really not vs memento

Menento buff everything on Refactor other than directly repair

[silent storm]

Maybe they don't have Memento yet

[hexed steppe]

its bad advice if thats the way its presented

ideally you would refactor: skill talent > memento (hybrid) > weapontalent (hybrid)

[silent storm]

I saw peaks of around 600k per shot at max stacks

[hexed steppe]

thats only if crit stats and understanding its kindof a loss usiung anything outside of skill talent

[silent storm]

Like I said though the buff is too short

[hexed steppe]

thats not good, especially since everyone else out damages you if considering weapons dps only.

[subtle bluff]

with modifiers?

[silent storm]

If it was like 30 seconds I think it would be better, and you have to remember I got a turret doing 250k and a drone doing about 200k

[subtle bluff]

You need to mention with or without modifiers when running a showing off a result

[hexed steppe]

i think thats where i see a problem with this. youre using the skilldamage to justify using the unstoppable bag even though it hurt your performance overall. you probably would have topped damage with a proper skill talent

why not just use vigilance if you are hard set on buffing weapon damage?

[silent storm]

Maybe maybe not. The biggest thing with Refactor is skill placement and depending on group members that is a fluid conclusion

[silent storm]

I don't have a ST backpack with Vigilance, because why would you lol

[hexed steppe]

you coulda easily shifted 250 mil more damage your way with a skill talent

[silent storm]

But I have these Backbones with ST as a native so I was like why not

[hexed steppe]

like saying im gonna use a 5.11 bag because it has a blue core that i want, still a shit choice. recalibration exists for a reason... also force multiplier has native skill tier

and force multiplier is basically like adding free perfect glass

[silent storm]

And I have that but with the WD you get from 6 ST on Spec and 45% WD from PGC I figured why not add 35% from PUF and see what happens

[hexed steppe]

im all for weird builds, but expect pushback and dont give them as good advice

[subtle bluff]

Oh boneback bone is still here..

here's the question Rowdy.

Why would someone run Refactor?

[silent storm]

I doubt many people still even have the Backbone with yellow core anyway and probably ever rarer with skill haste or skill damage on it

[silent storm]

This set is low key really good

[subtle bluff]

Are you hypocriting yourself? Idk if that's the word I should use her..

[silent storm]

no I have a maxed one but not everyone does

[subtle bluff]

Did not ask if it was good or not did I?

[silent storm]

I run Refactor because I like SD builds and this one heals team on the DMG I do

[subtle bluff]

I'm gonna keep SS if you keep making a non progressing answer

[silent storm]

And it is not a bad SD build

[hexed steppe]

-# snipping tool master: mode activated

[subtle bluff]

at this point win+v

[hexed steppe]

why i said master 😎

[silent storm]

It's a fun build

[cerulean smelt]

yes, you heal with the skills doing damage. you shooting. no healing what so ever

[subtle bluff]

Either talk about yourself or other players don't keep throwing either or to match what you think is best.

[silent storm]

Run it with Spiced Up and you get some serious DMG out of it

[subtle bluff]

Any build can be fun. Again... You were close at one point..

[cerulean smelt]

again, you shoot your gun you do no healing

[silent storm]

Refactor isn't a main healer

I mean it can be in a good group

[subtle bluff]

Lost plz stop let me get a straight answer out this first

[silent storm]

But if you are looking for FI level heals just use FI

[hexed steppe]

failing to grasp the point

[cerulean smelt]

not exactly what you said

[subtle bluff]

That one is pretty close.

[cerulean smelt]

if you want skill damage, run red rigger and you might do more damage than refactor

[silent storm]

Tell you what I like most about it is I get hit and I am instantly healed when my skills are hitting things

[subtle bluff]

You asked this previously. So I am asking you that

Idk why this is so hard for you to answer.

[silent storm]

Solo?

[subtle bluff]

you can run almost anything solo

[hexed steppe]

☕

[cerulean smelt]

no 🍿 ?

[subtle bluff]

What make Refactor different.

[silent storm]

I run all my kits solo

Instant heals

[subtle bluff]

I don't care what you run at this point since you're trying to advice others.

[silent storm]

I miss your point

[hexed steppe]

[subtle bluff]

Let's trying this again but with different words.

Why would someone choose to run Refactor over other builds?

[silent storm]

They like skill builds

[hexed steppe]

refactor specifically picked for a reason tho, right?

[subtle bluff]

Try again. There many skill builds.

[cerulean smelt]

that picture i didn't have the right holster on either lol

[silent storm]

Other than the healing factor I have no idea what you are talking about

[hazy steeple]

@silent storm Every time I read your name, I think of that stuffed dog from Scrubs.
Okay carry on, y'all.

[subtle bluff]

We're getting close!

How does it heal?

[silent storm]

#td2-build-advice message 1 bill SD 700 mill healing

[hexed steppe]

Skill build man’s Creed

This is my skill build. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My skill build is my best friend. It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.

My skill build, without me, is useless. Without my skill build, I am useless. I must utilize my skill build true. I must have better skill placement than my enemy, who is trying to kill me...

[subtle bluff]

It's not a hard question..

It's weird that you're being passive trying to teach something to someone that has around 2500hr more than you and a good easy 1,000 hours of it has been teaching other how to do end content.

[silent storm]

What are you talking about dude? I just put on a Backbone with yellow core. I like my Refactor build and even said that it's probably better solo than in party

[subtle bluff]

You're missing the point

Let's try this another time. I doubt it's gonna be answer but let's try it.

What makes Refactor different from every other build?

[silent storm]

Did I emasculate you somehow?

[subtle bluff]

Just can't answer a simple question is more like it.

Because you know the answer and it seem to choose not to answer it.

[silent storm]

Because I have no idea what makes it different, I like it because I get insta heals with skills and I like yellow core builds as much as I like red core builds

[verbal gust]

The answer is always stinker build always. I use it and I’m sticking to it.

[subtle bluff]

You answered it here.. but in a longer and had to use yourself in the answer..

Can you take yourself out of an answer?

[silent storm]

What are you talking about?

[silent storm]

The healing factor

[subtle bluff]

how does it repair?

[silent storm]

Skill DMG

[subtle bluff]

There you go that's the answer!

[verbal gust]

Woah what does this even mean? Just genuine question.

[subtle bluff]

Refactor repair more has it does more Skill Dmg! YAY

[silent storm]

Challenge his manhood

[subtle bluff]

idk what that has to do with a simple question.

[silent storm]

So the answer is skill DMG?

[subtle bluff]

Why ignored that and I could if nothing report that but I don't really care.

[verbal gust]

Sorry just wanted some understanding and a little transparency

[subtle bluff]

god I am using snipped tool so much tonight

[hexed steppe]

called it

[verbal gust]

I can tell doing a fantastic job snipping though if I do say so myself.

[subtle bluff]

Nah you're totally good I am glad someone noticed because I ignore stuff like this.

[silent storm]

I have a couple skill DMG builds but I like Refactor becsause you play it like a red build

[verbal gust]

Got your back bro. Sry continue.

[subtle bluff]

I have 4 skill build in my main toon loadout

[subtle bluff]

I have 6 more in my alt toon. So try again with that.

[silent storm]

Toon, I love that, it means you are atleast as old as I am lol

[subtle bluff]

It easier to offend me by going after other people.

[verbal gust]

I think chow has explained a lot I think chow needs a brain breather haha

[subtle bluff]

Half but also lazy to type and can't actually spell the other word.

[subtle bluff]

Did I even? I think snipped did half the work

[silent storm]

naa only old heads use toon lol

[subtle bluff]

No I can't spell Chactercter

Acutally....

I am slightly ESL, have dyslexia and have a small learning disablely. So I choose to be lazy with my typing a lot.

Anyways moving on back to builds.

[silent storm]

Night dude

[verbal gust]

You are gifted sir no doubt. But yeah 👍

[gentle lichen]

Bro just spamming random reacts

[subtle bluff]

Lazy typer atm

[verbal gust]

That new acs-12 is going in my stinker build for sure putting RoF on it

[cerulean smelt]

what?! not sherrif?

[rich cosmos]

Sherrif won’t be out for like 3+ months assuming no tempest situation

[cerulean smelt]

@gentle lichen trying various settings and i can't do it without Zealot 😢 😭

[gentle lichen]

Omfg just remove the goddamn climax exotic gimmick

[rich cosmos]

Screw zealot im gonna miss my camera 😔

[gentle lichen]

I'm gonna miss setting people on fire

[rich cosmos]

It is kinda stupid imo I just want to play it for the challenge

[cerulean smelt]

my butt clenches the chair hard everytime i lose armor using Sys Corr 😹

[gentle lichen]

Locking an exotic to the end of the season makes everyone just not excited anymore for it

[hexed steppe]

im gonna miss blind firing from cover with no ads

[rich cosmos]

Revert the sys corr bug fix

Still salty over that

[cerulean smelt]

vigilence on it feels lacking to me unfortunately 🤔

[gentle lichen]

You could go back to full armor in 2 procs of insta armor with that
Really op but should've been tuned instead of completely not working

[cerulean smelt]

was thinking the Equalizaer + Salvo for 13% Rof + AR would've increased my dps a bit

[rich cosmos]

Like I get it needed a change, but like, full blown removing it AND not making it apply the buff when you do it is so genuinely awful

[gentle lichen]

Pts still open right?

Don't they give you sys cor craft mats?

[cerulean smelt]

YUS, why i went to check salvo equalizer

YUS, buy one of the caches and get a crap ton

[rich cosmos]

Also just make sys corr targetable at this point like, I don’t think people are actively looking for it and its been so neglected at least let people have a way to farm it outside of caches sometimes

[cerulean smelt]

13% ROF, 20% AR Damage

[cerulean smelt]

who knows. on PC there's at least 3 of us i think. have to ask @strong cave if they got more interested #td2-build-advice message

[rich cosmos]

I really hope survivors adds a way to reliably get pvp exclusives

[hazy steeple]

@rich cosmos I think you might have some Retaliation against that opinion.

[rich cosmos]

I think its been long enough to the point where we should just allow stuff to be more accessible

[cerulean smelt]

i could totatlly see. run Survivors PVP and getting PVP loot
run PVE get PVE Loot

[rich cosmos]

Its been in the game for like what 4 years? Longer?

[cerulean smelt]

about 5 to 6 years i'd say

[rich cosmos]

Yeah at some point ya gotta say that its just gotta get put in the game in more ways

Plus don’t caches get harder each season because of past seasons

So yeah just make pvp exclusive stuff easier to get

[subtle bluff]

I can't even get it in the PTS

[rich cosmos]

I don’t even care if it remains pvp exclusive but make them actually obtainable

[cerulean smelt]

how does div 1 do it? aside Global Events?

[shy willow]

That was it lol

[rich cosmos]

Idk I never even hit level 30 in d1

[shy willow]

Outside of that there's no way to target any kind of loot apart from special exo drops

[cerulean smelt]

was going to say give us global events where we can get a few sets from them like div 1 has it set up

[shy willow]

Tbh just shove the seasonal caches in GEs or cd store or something

[cerulean smelt]

AKA Golden Bullet, System Corruption Caches, Strikers, etc, etc

[rich cosmos]

Hell in fact for survivors they could add a new wave of pvp exclusive loot
Like make all the exclusives MUCH easier to obtain in survivors but all the new seasonal loot is tied to pvp exclusivity, that would be a great idea

[cerulean smelt]

you do realize they're hiring someone to give some PVP love right?

[rich cosmos]

Yes thats why Im saying it

[shy willow]

Hopefully it's at least half as good as survival

[hazy steeple]

I think we can aim a little higher than "as good as survival".

[cerulean smelt]

Your main mission:
Collaborate with the Lead Producer, Creative Director and Game Director in order to define, structure and manage the PvP game design direction and the ambition for both long term plans and the scope of each release.
Leverage your knowledge of PvP design to create a healthy, balanced and competitive experience for our players.
Script and implement new pieces of gear and talents.
Work within a multi-disciplinary environment to create new maps and game modes.
Participate in playtests, analyze results and propose changes based on internal data.
Work alongside the data analytics team to understand, tweak and improve designs based on real world data.
Act as a mentor for the design team.
Champion the player experience at every stage of development, ensuring gameplay remains fun, rewarding and fresh through ongoing support and content updates.
i keep saying i don't pvp but this excites me that it's getting some much needed love

[hazy steeple]

"decent" would be my hope.

[hazy steeple]

Is that a job posting or a manifesto?

[cerulean smelt]

maybe mid 2026 or 2027 we'll have someone making new gears, weapons, maps, pvp game modes. maybe sys corr will get altered as well

job posting
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/company/careers/search/744000090774517-lead-pvp-game-designer-tom-clancy-s-the-division-2-

[hazy steeple]

Thank you for the reminder to not go back to office jobs.

I mean good lord.

ooookay back to the build talk now, methinks

[last schooner]

is the Tempest worth building around? The talent seems too situational...need shield to break to proc?

[cerulean smelt]

nods basically break shield be disoriented while half or most of the buff is active

[last schooner]

Harvest is the meta pistol build correct?

[cerulean smelt]

if you go headshot damage i believe

[last schooner]

harvest > reg?

[cerulean smelt]

i like it better than Reg cause i can determined it and shoot a toe for a head shot

[verbal gust]

Yes eventually sheriff will replace all my weapons tbh.

[verbal gust]

What in human anatomy is this obscurity? Toe shots=headshots? No way haha

[cerulean smelt]

i can see NFG Ghostspr AKA(LT.Dan) RAAAAH. LET'S SEE HOW YOU LIKE LOSING ALL YOUR ARMOR AND YOUR HEALTH IN A COUPLE SHOTS! 😹

[hazy steeple]

Determined lets any part of the body count as a headshot.
which means yes, you can blind-fire with an MMR and nail a perfect 360-no-scope.

[verbal gust]

From narnia? Yes please

[last schooner]

so for Harvest build, Punch Drunk, Chainkiller, 3pc IA and...which BP?

[cerulean smelt]

rivens pvping. jumps, 360 ads MMR and gets a headshot for a conflict match win

[verbal gust]

Riven your so accurate. How do you do it?

[hazy steeple]

I trained by dodging limewire downloads.

[cerulean smelt]

i went the extra mile, punchdrunk, chain killer, claws out, 3 immenence

[verbal gust]

Nah it’s definitely gotta be some
Mr Miyagi stuff going on there

[hexed steppe]

@verbal gust has no risk at being hit with a toe shot

[cerulean smelt]

aka: claws out = 8% more innate pistol damage 😹

[last schooner]

Damn don't have IA BP.

[cerulean smelt]

don't have to go that route though, i just did for the damage and fun of it

[verbal gust]

I lost that ability a long time ago that’s one thing I don’t miss. Stubbing my toe.

[last schooner]

handling > CHC for HSD builds right

[cerulean smelt]

it's the route i went. HSD/Handling if the gear allows it

[hazy steeple]

and now they'll never be an astronaut.
or they will, since less weight on the shuttle

[verbal gust]

Prosthetics are the key it’s getting them that’s the problem.

[last schooner]

Bulwark Shield?

[hazy steeple]

I keep offering the ones made of paddle-pops, but you never return my calls.

wait. too australian. Popsicles. There.

[verbal gust]

I made my own once out of hockey sticks didn’t really work out tho.

[cerulean smelt]

believe so?

[hazy steeple]

@verbal gust Guess you're out of puck there.

[hexed steppe]

nasa/spacex hogging all the titanium lately , huh

[gentle lichen]

nasa stole my iron lung body pillow

[cerulean smelt]

i can only imagine how much them cannisters will smell of vomit

[verbal gust]

I lost elons contact somewhere in my last pair of pants I think.

[verbal gust]

Hah haha puck. Yeah. Haaaaa yeah

[cerulean smelt]

you know how many people will try to be high or drunk taking a spacex?

[hazy steeple]

Okay, back to the builds now.

[verbal gust]

Idk the best thing about crutches is you can use them as weapons legally if you want. But yea builds please sorry.

Has any builds come of the pts? Strikers I imagine but what’s the gear set ? It’s gotta be related to ARs right?

[gentle lichen]

It's not striker? PASS

[cerulean smelt]

gear set is sad really. require skills and other people doing damage for you to gain any stacks

[hazy steeple]

sounds supporty

[verbal gust]

Oooooooh. I see so it’s like a give take set. Might go well with the companion mech but when it’s gone it’s going to be useless imo

[verbal gust]

Yeah the brand set with stinkers is what I’m leaning towards

[last schooner]

OK I suck with pistol build.

[gentle lichen]

What pistol build

[cerulean smelt]

bleach your eyes after reading this
Concentrated Company – Gear Set
2 Pieces equipped: +10% Weapon Damage.
3 Pieces equipped: +30% Weapon Handling.
4 Pieces equipped unlock a new unique Talent.
Talent “Camaraderie Talent”
Shooting an enemy marks them for 7s.
When a marked enemy dies, receive one stack of 3% Weapon Damage for each Ally or Skill that has contributed to killing that enemy.
Max stacks is 35. Stacks decay every 10s. Maximum amount of marks that can be placed is 3.
Chest and Backpack Talents:
Chest – Talent “All for One”
Increase the amount of marks that can be placed from 3 to 5.
Backpack – Talent “One for All”
Increase the Weapon Damage bonus per stack from 3% to 5%

[last schooner]

just built around the harvest. determined is good until I run into chunga

[verbal gust]

You gotta work around armor sadly the seasonal perk is good for that shoot armor once it falls then just get another headshot and your golden

[gentle lichen]

Is this just flat weapon damage?
Pathetic

[cerulean smelt]

here's the brandset
Unit Alloys – Brand Set
1 Piece equipped: +5% Rate of Fire
2 Pieces equipped: +20% Assault Rifle Damage
3 Pieces equipped: +50% Magazine Size
Named Gear Pieces:
Named Chest Piece “Equalizer” – Talent “Perfect Obliterate”
Critical hits increase total weapon damage by 1% for 10s. Stacks up to 24 times.
Named Holster “Slavo” – Perfect Attribute
+8% Rate of Fire

[verbal gust]

Tbh bro I expected more from the set I was hoping something on par to stacking but idk theirs just too much to do in a short time window with it. Niche I swear

[verbal gust]

This is where things get good with the rate of fire stat being on gear this will def be my go to. 4 piece striker 2 piece unit with equalizer?

[cerulean smelt]

and salvo holster?

[verbal gust]

Yeeeeahhhhh my sheriff go brrrrrrrrr

[cerulean smelt]

5% turns to 13% 🤔

sheriff might be intriguing if you pair it with visionario and eagle's grasp (> <)

[last schooner]

so once I proc determined I can just keep hitting body shots?

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if we can use brand/gearset that increases it's range. would love to turn it into a literally MMR (> <)

[last schooner]

or is it head shot, body shot, head shot etc

[cerulean smelt]

forever until you hit hyena or chungas with helmets on

[verbal gust]

Dude the range will be insane

[cerulean smelt]

which you shoot body, break their helmets. then shoot their head to reaquire HH Determined

[patent gull]

What’s some good tech tank builds?

[verbal gust]

Uhh if you look at the pinned messages on the top theirs a spreadsheet with all kinds of builds and data

Just click the name on top

[cerulean smelt]

one piece would be Memento Exotic backpack

[verbal gust]

Yeah they are mostly momento builds. I have yet to see an exotic with as much utility as momento.

[cerulean smelt]

this april fools Momento's dropped, along with dog face, satiated, little horn forget the rest honestly. pissed people off
i found it funny honestly

[verbal gust]

Oh yeah I forgot about that. They were useless haha. Was funny though yeah.

[cerulean smelt]

for me it was dropping exotic components and i didn't mind that

[verbal gust]

Not at all me either. Always need those. I was rocking a Strega with ND when turmoil was a thing I missed it but now that I have them dude my clear is so much better.

[cerulean smelt]

i feel blacklisters is still semi broken in some spectacular way, i just can't prove it honestly

[subtle bluff]

You around? I have some time to do one quickly.

[verbal gust]

Il use em now I was going to do capitol on Lego check my damage il report back

[patent gull]

Would it be worth taking a crit chance off for a crit damage