td2-build-advice

[scenic coral]

whats the screenshot button?

[subtle bluff]

win+shift+s

But also @glossy rover Yes in the end a Crit while hitting the head will always do more dmg.

[glossy rover]

well im running a determined hh

[meager fog]

You screwed up there.

Answered on your second account when a question was asked to your first account.

@hexed steppe @scenic coral and @glossy rover are the same person.

[subtle bluff]

The point is again: HSD will always do it's damage when you hit the head.
Where CHD is a chance.

[glossy rover]

yes in my case 51%

[astral kraken]

popcorn.gif

[fiery gust]

Ok, so you're probably solo and even if you're not, 421k more for the WH and whatever else you're giving up isn't a good trade.

[magic pilot]

Uhhh definitely not

[meager fog]

Give us ALL three stats.

CHC, CHD and HSd.

[subtle bluff]

STOP Dorky.

[scenic coral]

bro you are like delulu...

[glossy rover]

51% 45 190

[magic pilot]

I like how local got a random ping here😭

[fiery gust]

On what build? HE, HF, what?

[glossy rover]

pistol dtermined hh

[urban latch]

Always keep in mind the goal is always to help people. If your just trying to "be right and prove others wrong" then your doing that for yourself

[fiery gust]

Yea, but is that using all HE pieces, HF gear set, or what? Lol.

[glossy rover]

2 wh 3 imm pd

[meager fog]

You haven't read the entire conversation.

Several people have been trying to help people who refuse help.

[magic pilot]

I'm sure Raucey is paying attention

[astral kraken]

pays attention to detail, that one

[scenic coral]

how do you take screenshots in game? win shift f doesnt work for lol

[urban latch]

win shift s

[fiery gust]

Just use Snipping Tool. 🤣

[obtuse crystal]

its win shift s not win shift f

[subtle bluff]

that's what win shift s is

[subtle bluff]

Are you now actually trying trolling us?

[fiery gust]

Yea, but they couldn't get that to work. Was trying to make it easier by giving a name lol.

[astral kraken]

print screen works too. i think it takes you to the snipping tool now.

[scenic coral]

see that shield trick thing from like years ago still works, i mean this is the easy legendary but it should work elsewhere too right

[subtle bluff]

Ya it depends on the windows and the build of it.

[scenic coral]

win shift s doesnt work for me , had to window mode snipping haha thanks to who suggest that

[astral kraken]

it used to conceal you completely. now you're still open to damage but it helps a little.

but not because of any glitch like before

[scenic coral]

i dint get shot at all though, just like how i remember doing these runs from years ago

still the same nego focus 8x scope shield gimmick.

[astral kraken]

silence in the channel as everyone goes to test shield peeking again

[scenic coral]

zoommode

[subtle bluff]

I know it doesn't work anymore.

[cerulean smelt]

i never done or understood it honestly so i never used it

[scenic coral]

unzoomed , totally not exposed

[cerulean smelt]

far as i'm concerned we're only getting screenshots of them "it works!" but i bet if they gave us a video clip we could see they're exposed but they just don't notice it

[scenic coral]

ok the next zone after this if i remember is a bunch of miniguns guys n rushers right imma see if i can clear it

[meager fog]

Where has your friend gone?

Seems to have abandoned you at this point. Weird.

[subtle bluff]

Like I've said above. Almost anything is viable up to solo heroic, doesn't mean it's good. You'll hit a wall in group and leggo with it

[glossy rover]

i was able to finish first area of dua solo

but yes you are right the wall has been hit

though i doubt weapon handling in my case wouldnt of changed much for me

[scenic coral]

look i dunno, im using the same shield trick from years ago and it still works for me, even though im like noticably rusty at this game

[subtle bluff]

Heroic?

[glossy rover]

leg

[scenic coral]

this is the easy legendary

[glossy rover]

outside cleared but hallway cooked me, honestly put it dow to a skill issue more then a build issue

[agile citrus]

I feel defencively attacked : ( I use a crit bighorn with 2m hs ish and uhhhhh.... I think 700k crit dmg. at the same time

[subtle bluff]

I'd like to see a clip of the 2nd section with your build. That's sounds interesting.

[glossy rover]

hallway? i just got pushed by chungas

[agile citrus]

IN FAIRNESS I KNOW ITS NOT optimal... but I like my bh. I want him to aspire to greatestness

[subtle bluff]

Ya.

[cerulean smelt]

math wise we all know a build that tries to do multiple things in it will jsut be weaker

[rotund hearth]

How come the directive in the picture is not current?

[glossy rover]

whats there to see i had to back up until i was out double doors

[subtle bluff]

In open world and in mission are 2 different places.

[cerulean smelt]

which one? i see 4

[scenic coral]

cuz i turned off all the directives?

[glossy rover]

then when i tried killing with shield out i got cooked

[rotund hearth]

I'm in mission right now!

[scenic coral]

you do legendary with all the directives?

[glossy rover]

1 tap didnt even break helmet 🥲

[subtle bluff]

How you cleared the chunga way with your build. I kind doubt it was done.

[glossy rover]

you talking about outside

[rotund hearth]

Not my picture Milkky_'s picture

[subtle bluff]

No inside.

[glossy rover]

i didnt clear inside ive been saying that i got cooked

[agile citrus]

why are you using special ammo vs tusk lego? who hurt you

[magic pilot]

Bro is trolling

[subtle bluff]

Which one is that in sexylot

[glossy rover]

i cleared outside then got annihilated

[magic pilot]

That directive isn't even on this season lol

[rotund hearth]

That's my point with the picture.

[subtle bluff]

OH RIP. My bad I didn't read "first area"

[magic pilot]

Yea I noticed that too

[cerulean smelt]

dunno, facebookmom asked about directives but picture shows 4 active so not sure what they mean

[scenic coral]

its right now lol

[rotund hearth]

My pciture shows four current directives for this season, Milkky_ shows one directive from a previous season. Howvever, they are making out their picture is current.

[glossy rover]

thats no regen directive?

[scenic coral]

my directives have been buggy , cant swtich em off n on at will somehow

[meager fog]

So we're now all aware they're trolling....after over an hour of me telling you they're trolling....

[cerulean smelt]

@rotund hearth oh you mean they showed an older picture with different directives had to re-read what you asked lol my bad

[scenic coral]

i have no idea what directive that is, all my directives are suppose to be off now

[agile citrus]

likely weak armor

[glossy rover]

huh? why am i getting brought up?

[obtuse crystal]

the directive is bugged i think he has say cheese as well

[agile citrus]

its shaped like a shield, and theres only 2 options

[magic pilot]

Yea idk about the modifiers I never used them

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff isn't that armor break?#td2-build-advice message

[rotund hearth]

Your left hand picture does not prove anything regarding date/time.

[subtle bluff]

I don't remember them at all.

[magic pilot]

I'm about to send a video of shield peeking lot working

[agile citrus]

theres only 2 shield ones. if someone wants to test, summit possess all directive

you know what would be wild? if our buddy sexy showed up his in game clock right now. dont all game versions share same server clokc?

[scenic coral]

oh wheres the game clock?

[rotund hearth]

Summit with all directives.

[agile citrus]

in setting or something. people use it to time hunters

[astral kraken]

maximum pain

[meager fog]

It would be fantastic if he showed us a retaliation video

[agile citrus]

I bet it "hard to earn" drops armor kits with spec ammo

[scenic coral]

how do i see your video?

[cerulean smelt]

i'm afraid to click download that file 🤔 looks sus

[agile citrus]

its fine

[scenic coral]

saw it , you over extended

[magic pilot]

i literally uploaded it from my video file idk why it did that

[astral kraken]

thats the obs format

[magic pilot]

you literally cant get any closer, i played when shield peeking was around lol

[magic pilot]

ah makes sense. Also i took more than one video

[scenic coral]

thats where i would be

[subtle bluff]

It's the reason that build isn't that strong for PvE because it's all focused into Pistol vs other HH builds that can do more and give more.

[agile citrus]

shame we cant see your active directive "hard to earn"

[glossy rover]

ofc im aware of that

[magic pilot]

still got hit lol

[scenic coral]

bro join my game, your in game now right

[meager fog]

This is now WAY off topic

[agile citrus]

I kinda want to see this directive ngl. an I trust your ss's

[subtle bluff]

I'm just checking if you got the point of why we don't care for Crit on a HSD build.

[scenic coral]

maybe its the dumpster. i use the truck behind u

[cerulean smelt]

reposted same video btw

[magic pilot]

yea i realized lol

[onyx sage]

the point is if the shield peeking still works even if you're close you would still not be shot

[cerulean smelt]

much better

[glossy rover]

other then increasing rl speed i dont see where you gain dps over just running chc for the extra damage, sure it might not be optimal but your burst would be stronger no? which is what you want especially stacking headhunter

[meager fog]

Nope.

[onyx sage]

your damage increase is extremely extremely extremely minimal running crit with so few attributes left

[magic pilot]

there ya go from the truck

[subtle bluff]

Read HH again.

[subtle bluff]

He's running a HE imm build so he's doing HSD then crit

[meager fog]

Running a head hunter build, first shot is crucial.

[onyx sage]

in a build where all it matters is hitting new breakpoints, tiny improvements like these just don't matter

[magic pilot]

trust me ive done plenty of shield peeking back in the day

[onyx sage]

i already know, we already talked in another place

[scenic coral]

dude sorry to say but over extending again like even more here

[magic pilot]

you can see me move closer and hit the truck...

[glossy rover]

but if this is what it hinges on its just an aim thing

[magic pilot]

you are either trolling or incompetent so im done here

[cerulean smelt]

give it up. educating sexylots is like trying to educate brick

[meager fog]

No? Not in any way.....

[magic pilot]

yea ive made my point here. i think 4 videos is enough

[subtle bluff]

HH scales to do your WD.

[agile citrus]

👆 while my build is extremely off meta, even I know, my striker set bonus and sharpshooter weapon handling is the only reason I dont use WH

[glossy rover]

you cant shield peak anymore it got patched, it was running rampant in pvp, dunno why you guys arent just screen capping patch notes saying its fixed

[subtle bluff]

not to your DMG output so CHD and HSD doesn't make stack faster.

[scenic coral]

well u guys prolly have your own legendary tricks. this shield thing is just the easiest way for me

[magic pilot]

ubishit thats why

[cerulean smelt]

person refuses to look it up themselves

[magic pilot]

we cant trust them to not randomly ban players, cant trust them to make accurate patchnotes

which, they also have done in the past lol example: tinkerer and all the dps charts they post

[glossy rover]

i mean fair half the time talents dont work as they read or in the rare case activate without the greenset, yes eclipse protocol im looking at you

[magic pilot]

so much wrong with these

[agile citrus]

tinkerer makes me sad. so much potential to obselete exo meta

[magic pilot]

there was one they posted that had like a 40% nerf on regulus randomly lol

[agile citrus]

should have allowed named.

[glossy rover]

should have allowed named without perfect talents

[subtle bluff]

uh

[magic pilot]

tinkerer has its place

[agile citrus]

dont say it. I swear if you list 40 weapons on 20 meta sets that arent exo

[glossy rover]

for the past months it was an exploiters paradise

[magic pilot]

OD

[agile citrus]

I know, just... had more potential 🙁

[subtle bluff]

uh? a group of speedrunners that was like a month ago

[magic pilot]

-its still bugged-

[glossy rover]

and every damage exploiter known to mankind

[onyx sage]

btw in https://youtu.be/waWn5nhrAso?t=5m50s (timestamp included) this is when shield peek still works, the headroom for peeking is this massive

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, in the stash

[magic pilot]

you know what else is massive

[onyx sage]

my student loans

[agile citrus]

SO MANY OPTIONS!!!

[magic pilot]

the creators of division 2!

[cerulean smelt]

here i was expecting you to go intoa geico insurance ad (> <)

[hexed steppe]

I'm so glad I missed that entire conversation 👴

[subtle bluff]

I mean... players that can't do incursion well sure and like being a cheater like but I haven't seen to much of that in LFG and RMM.

[glossy rover]

dz was littered

[subtle bluff]

Again incursion you were talking about.

[glossy rover]

news to me

[magic pilot]

its still rampant in dz

[subtle bluff]

This could be mistaken for saying PL / Paradise Lost.

[cerulean smelt]

oh you know you would've loved to be part of that conversation and be "one of us" in getting blocked for being an idiot

[glossy rover]

i havent seen it since the last time the "fixed it"

[astral kraken]

no problem, i will summarize:

• shield peeking works again
• crit+hsd is better for hh instead of going all hsd
• mikkyy and sexylots are the same person
• ubisoft is bad
• i'm back. hi deck.

[magic pilot]

unless i missed one of their 15 patches for it. still works

[glossy rover]

ahhh i see the confusion, now i was talking about how the tinker was a paradise for explointers

[subtle bluff]

The tank is a AI bot!

[agile citrus]

and wh -_-

[subtle bluff]

It's on both of us it's chill.

[hexed steppe]

Hey, did you get sorted. I saw your issue that came up earlier

[astral kraken]

yea. im still annoyed at them.

[glossy rover]

dont lump me in with someone that thinks the peak still works

[agile citrus]

@astral kraken I just realised what your name means. lol my deomlisher can break your treads. -_- not elite tho sigh

[hexed steppe]

That's fair. Especially getting auto replied. Most tickets historically too a week to turn around

[magic pilot]

which bounties are hounds?

[glossy rover]

although at certain angles you can shoot around corners without being seen from the otherside

[astral kraken]

i have ended more legendary runs than you can imagine. i'm #1 on the white tusk leaderboard. for some reason everyone ignores me!

[agile citrus]

I despise minitanks. their the only thing that my demo skill in lego says, "mines bigger, get'em bois"

[agile citrus]

pfe has left the building

[magic pilot]

how many bounties do i need to do for this event?

[astral kraken]

pfe are my favorites

[hexed steppe]

What's pfe in legs

Pfe and glass dont mix

[agile citrus]

"I dont see any mods on you boi, wuts your shd level?" uh, 15k, their pfe "where? I dont see them. GET OVA HERE" screaming issues

[cerulean smelt]

4ish for the 4 guaranteed cosmetic pieces, but more if you want the drone bat vfx

or was it 5 pieces?... gloves, mask, outfit, boots?

[hexed steppe]

Just matchmake random bounties and youll get nonstop farming houndsman till you 🤮

I finished my stuff for it during a lunch break.

[scenic coral]

me doing that shield trick

[magic pilot]

Doesn't show a clip where they shoot at you lol

[subtle bluff]

Ya I was about to say.

[scenic coral]

because i dint overextend so i think the mobs are trying to aquire target

[subtle bluff]

I will say they agro weirdly you got the tank op out of the way that's was a first for me to see

[scenic coral]

the whole video was a bit long and i did mention im rusty so they did shoot at me sometimes when i fk up

[subtle bluff]

You can still peak just work anywhere as well as it did.

I was still very new to the game when shield peaking was in. So my opinion here isn't the greatest.

[scenic coral]

i havent played in 4 years. last time had to like pray the targeted loot was something i wanted on the easy legendary, now i can just go countdown n leech while leveling proficiency lol

[glossy rover]

at 33-36 seconds you can see that you are over extended and infact not shield peaking

[onyx sage]

okay easy test. ADS. note your current pov. then activate shield while still ADS. note that your pov doesn't change. this is how you know shield peeking is no longer a thing

[glossy rover]

shield peaking moved you scope left as if you were looking down a zoomed third person cam with a scope overlay

[onyx sage]

"shield peeking" implies that you can still shoot at them while your hitbox is still hidden, now since your pov doesn't shift anymore you can't shoot and still have your hitbox hidden

[glossy rover]

now it zooms from where your scope actually is

[agile citrus]

hey whats your ingame name?

[scenic coral]

this is the full video of that part. i had to compress 2x to meet filesize so quality is shit

[scenic coral]

where do i find my in game name?

[glossy rover]

???????????

[agile citrus]

its your ubi name

like if we wanted to ubi friend you. or join, or anything

[onyx sage]

at 0:40-0:41 note how your pov doesn't shift when you shield up

[agile citrus]

danke, its cute

wanted to check your build. thats why, was curious

[scenic coral]

i think it did cuz i also strafe right

[onyx sage]

no, no strafing

the shielding itself would have shifted your pov

[subtle bluff]

True I feel that and we can't post our own YT stuff.

[scenic coral]

well not quite sure what u mean, but anyways this is my trick for legendary solo, well not my trick, everyone does it back then

[scenic coral]

let me login n screenshot for u

[cerulean smelt]

i think that's what they dont understand and why they say "it still works"

[onyx sage]

we know what you're talking about, i did that trick too a lot and have tons of videos doing just that. what you just don't get is how the trick actually shifts your pov without any strafing which keeps your hitbox hidden. now it doesn't do that anymore

[agile citrus]

so

[scenic coral]

look whatever the patchnotes u guys read that said its patched or what. functionally, it still works, for ME, maybe just me

[agile citrus]

wild thing. Im not making a statment, Im showing something

[subtle bluff]

Once you get into a 4man group and try this you'll notice you'll get hit a lot more than before. Agro is weird and stuff but we just want to note for you there is something different.

[cerulean smelt]

the POV (point of view) they're probably speaking of is. you deply shield and gun rests on it you scope you'll notice your screen shift to the right a bit so they're saying with that you are hidden from getting hit by most attacks

[agile citrus]

this is their current shd level. this directive is active, and actively affecting the lego

[onyx sage]

we get that you don't notice and that's fine. we're just saying a crucial part of it that's under the hood is just gone

[subtle bluff]

The video is all we needed.

[scenic coral]

basic nego focus build

[agile citrus]

: ( wut going on with his game

[cerulean smelt]

probably pulling up old screenshots and videos 😹

[agile citrus]

the only possibility of that is if he hasnt played his account in like... months. literaly no login, nothing

the shd matchs the stamp

[glossy rover]

Exploits
Fixed the Corner Glitch.

[scenic coral]

man u guys are going the full conspiracy for me lol

[subtle bluff]

Naw like I said picture are easily a lot of stuff and not show.

We're cool that he showed the video of it now.

[scenic coral]

like who was that guy that said i was like 5 other people or something

[glossy rover]

the end

[scenic coral]

jesus thats delulu nutty

[subtle bluff]

Got the link to that one? I'm curious to see when and what else was fix during that TU

[onyx sage]

we don't just show those patch notes because testing in game is still most reliable tbh

[glossy rover]

year 5 season 3 tu20

[onyx sage]

it was project resolve

[cerulean smelt]

me? well you are here pushing back on us like that other guy did until he just blocked us for being "rage bait idiots"

[subtle bluff]

OH

[glossy rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1ajnhde/the_division_2_title_update_20_patch_notes/

[agile citrus]

the only thing that has me confused, and has had me looking at you sus from the start is the bizarre directive. can you look at your directive and see what you see?

[scenic coral]

my directives are bugged like if u see the video it has no pistolero right, but i spawn with no damn ammo gawd...

[urban latch]

You don't need to go to legendary to see that shield peaking doesn't work anymore. Just aim at anything with a zoom scope. Pull your shield out and see if the shield causes your aim to dhift right. That's what caused the shield glitch and that's what was fixed.

Good example of how it used to look
https://youtu.be/XjjvRmD6Pz0?si=b4yq_0rDZlnpoGDR

[subtle bluff]

Year 5 Season 3: Vanguard TU20

[subtle bluff]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/4Q5mYbSvaH9H3YZtMiraHs

[glossy rover]

anyway thats undesputible evidence that the shield peak no longer works. thats the end of that.

[agile citrus]

so. hear me out. the directive is a bug. if it wasnt.. hed have no armor kits.

[scenic coral]

you're right it doesnt shift anymore, but its still works lol

[glossy rover]

so just dont use a shield and do the same thing?

[onyx sage]

you don't understand that shift is what makes it work

[agile citrus]

theres no armor kits in this

[subtle bluff]

Like I've said before. You can still "peak" just doesn't work anywhere as well as it use to.

[onyx sage]

the crux of shield peeking is that it helps you not take damage at all while you shoot

[agile citrus]

anyway, ubi bugs aside, using sheild in lego isnt great anyway. not only does decoy or trrt serve better vs drones.. but also unless you use demo like I do you dont drones explode your shield

[cerulean smelt]

you're educating a brick. no matter what you guys say, show, point to. in their mind it's still a thing

[urban latch]

What continues to work, and what your doing, is blocking line of sight to the majority of threats, and you only expose yourself to the target your shooting. Then you rely on stagger and the shield to keep yourself safe. Its a solid tactic of high level gameplay, and its what your doing. Nothing wrong woth it at all and no one else is denying its something you can still do.

But shield peaking is a specific thing that's different and allowed you to play completely safely from damage. And that's whst was patched.

[subtle bluff]

Slicing the Pie

[scenic coral]

but it doesnt work without the shield though, somehow the shield just makes it harder for mobs to aquire character on target , so they scramble to get near my

[urban latch]

Aka this:
https://youtu.be/-7Miw5wEjrs?si=ciNj0OPMTdra9DVV

@scenic coral

[agile citrus]

no. the sield acts as a target. it replaces your character model for the ai. this is why they cant hs you or shoot your feet unlike in pvp

[scenic coral]

so the shield thing doesnt work, but im making it work cuz i've always been playing like this?

[agile citrus]

I have used the shield since I began playing. in 6k shd levels I have never once seen an ai attempt to work around a shield. the only wierd thing Iv ever witness is.. foamers shoot your feet for some dum reason

[cerulean smelt]

well, those foamers are from a military faction

[urban latch]

Your playing well and doing what you should be doing. Its just not whats referred to as shield peaking

[agile citrus]

I think its amusing. Im like bruh,v stop... messing on me. ew

[glossy rover]

thoughts? 60 173

[scenic coral]

i think it only works with the shield is because mobs have to still target the center of the shield, which the way im playing is mostly behind cover so i dont get shot at. becaus i swear it doesnt work without the shield

[urban latch]

Watch that second video I linked. Its a really good example (from an above average player) how you can do the same thing without a shield

[agile citrus]

just remember teammates can steal eb potential. dont die. eb drawback is same as memento, except memento doesnt kill ya

[scenic coral]

oh yeah thats the new cc gun, i can see why it would work no shield

[onyx sage]

it works without using that gun either

i have a solo legendary zoo video using no exotics and no expertise just to hammer it home that you don't need any fancy thing

[scenic coral]

ya but that would be like so hard

[onyx sage]

you can still headglitch is my point

[scenic coral]

what is head glitch?

[onyx sage]

headglitch, shield peeking, third person peeking, etc. are basically all referring to using some trick to shoot enemies while you are hidden

[glossy rover]

true true but high risk high reward

living on the edge is way more fun, plus i got 320k armour heals from clutch to play with

[onyx sage]

the trick differs but the goal is the same: shoot enemies but not expose yourself to being shot back

[scenic coral]

haha thats literally just playing the game normally isnt it

[onyx sage]

many players surprisingly don't know how to

[astral kraken]

i mean it is sorta counterintuitive. there are so many peeks where im surprised they don't shoot back at all.

[onyx sage]

it all works because this game is third person view

[astral kraken]

i think it's less 3pp and more that the 3d crosshair extends past obstacles

the game doesn't correctly model the muzzle's relationship to geometry around it

[onyx sage]

it's hitscan too yeah, the game had to have the red dot mechanic to prevent you from just killing anything you put the center of your screen on

[scenic coral]

btw are blue builds viable for pve now? i see a lot of ppl running it. and sometimes i just watch them shoot, feels so slow. i mean wont u get swarmed in the end due to slow ttk.

[astral kraken]

depends on what you mean by viable. like... they can clear but it'll be slower obviously. blue builds have been really helped by all the recent modifiers boosting their dmg output

[scenic coral]

ya i notice theres a lot of dmg creep even reds feel stronger now

[onyx sage]

you can take a red build and use blue cores instead and it will still work yeah, but it says less about the build and more about the player

[astral kraken]

yea and even then blues give maximum value by boosting the shield

[scenic coral]

blue cores as in like line 2 n 3?

[onyx sage]

there's been more than a few buffs to weapons overall and some new talents that are just straight powercreep

[astral kraken]

enemies will still shred you through blue cores is what i mean

[onyx sage]

170k armor instead of weapon damage

[scenic coral]

oh that.

[buoyant berry]

There's some funny stuff to do with blue cores tho, but its almost mostly team support oriented

[cerulean smelt]

aka 6 armor cores then whatever minors right?

[magic pilot]

IMO if you aren't utilizing blue cores for some sort of support talent you don't need them, and even then damage boosts are better

[subtle bluff]

Uppies 6 Skill Teir "Tank" is Support "Tank"

I feel like I could of worded that better

[cerulean smelt]

was telling mrchow i was tempted to make a 4 aegis, provacator and maybe belstone build into dua for our buddy that asked or best build for it but got snappy with a lot of us when we answered then blocked us (> <)

[subtle bluff]

That was the quickest that I've ever been blocked tbh. A new PB!!!

[buoyant berry]

you can do some fun stuff with blue cores if you don't feel like going dps

[subtle bluff]

That kind of sounds bad if you didn't know me or not having context...

[cerulean smelt]

well, it's their loss anyways right?

[subtle bluff]

There a share tab use that for the next share

[scenic coral]

btw do ppl still raid, i look at the lfg and its like 1 reply every few hours

[subtle bluff]

That's a build... I see the thought...... ya..

[buoyant berry]

didnt notice. Thanks! Much more readable

[cerulean smelt]

sure, just this server is a slower response. goto something like GCRock discord for a more active group

[subtle bluff]

Yes a but I think IH is broken atm idk if they fixed it.

[obtuse crystal]

In this server they don’t this server died for lfgs

[obtuse crystal]

It’s fixed

[scenic coral]

can u link me to this gcrock place

[subtle bluff]

My bio or search it

[cerulean smelt]

i'm not in it

done with raids unless i'm feeling generous

[scenic coral]

thx

im like burnout from countdown n that control point mode.

[cerulean smelt]

should try burning out on descent

[scenic coral]

descent is that 100floor place?

did so much of this back then when it came out

[subtle bluff]

No that's Summit

[scenic coral]

oh i gotta do that theres a new rifle

[cerulean smelt]

rifle sucks, but it's good to have it for collection purposes

[scenic coral]

my new favourite build for like general xp grinding is tinker negev bleed+status ongoing

[subtle bluff]

It's changed it got a few buffs. If you look at the Build Hub there's meta build for it.

[agile citrus]

I use it cuz it carries. I do a lot of shepherding and if 3 people are having issues with DPS that a ton of HP, body's and angles I need to wade through

[scenic coral]

where is this build hub?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages > Speadsheet 2 > Build Hub

[verbal gust]

If I you got a penny for everytime you post this exact message you’d be rich. Haha

[scenic coral]

u forgot to add the main pro of the build, free ammo refill so it works with no ammo directive haha.

[subtle bluff]

meh. Small details

[scenic coral]

oh man thats like the main thing for me cuz im farming mats, i refuse to give up that 25% exp

[fresh fox]

yay

[astral kraken]

you mean 3 decoys?

[fresh fox]

be nice..,

[astral kraken]

whats wrong with decoys

[cerulean smelt]

i prefer meat shields

but honestly. only time i shepard was for caretaker

[astral kraken]

meat popsicles

[fresh fox]

kindness is a virtue

[gentle lichen]

kindness is a river in egypt

[astral kraken]

ofc. kindess and a sense of humor is meta tho.

[fresh fox]

no humour was powercrept because of pure kindness

[astral kraken]

*humor

[dim sparrow]

looking for ideas and help

[gentle lichen]

billions must smile and be whimsy

[cerulean smelt]

what's wrong with it?

[subtle bluff]

what's your goal.. This is mixed.

[astral kraken]

what you have is solid tbh

[subtle bluff]

I'm use to the minitank being back...

[dim sparrow]

i am focusing on nemisis

[cerulean smelt]

never heard of them honestly

[dim sparrow]

and idk what to do for seccond gun

[subtle bluff]

You really only need nemisis for ad normally.

[astral kraken]

thats what they aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall say until the wipe countdown starts

[dim sparrow]

wipe?

[astral kraken]

then it's wah wah what the hell was shooting me wah

[subtle bluff]

You can throw in nemisis.

[astral kraken]

i only have the nemesis because it looks cool on my back

[dim sparrow]

i got it hiting for average 20 mil to the head

[astral kraken]

dont look at averages, look at 1st shot, 2nd shot, 3rd shot. all that matters.

[cerulean smelt]

nah everything shoots me. ask average player (> <) the only thing i question is where did they come from?

[dim sparrow]

idk what to do for the skills because of the goo gun

i dont use it

[astral kraken]

tactician drone is actually really good

[subtle bluff]

The new MMR isn't bad either.

[fresh fox]

tactician drone + reviver hive is chill

[astral kraken]

the one with a blanket on it? i just got one. is there a damage calculator for it anywhere? too lazy to math.

[subtle bluff]

nooo we haven't.

It does a enough tho

[astral kraken]

now i have a reason to farm some exos

[cerulean smelt]

first mario kart gun, and blanket on a gun. love this community

[fresh fox]

whats the base damage ill get something going

[onyx sage]

assume it's the same as m700 carbon

[subtle bluff]

412516 yup

[onyx sage]

the talent's 2.25x is also a global/final amp

[astral kraken]

thanks. looks DOA for me unless reload time is superb.

i guess first shot can kill an elite tho? that's good.

[subtle bluff]

Try it out if feels good. I've been weird and used it on HHF for 1886... 😐

[cerulean smelt]

it's probably the talent

[onyx sage]

it's DOA for me because scope

[astral kraken]

oh yea that's a deal breaker if it's primary

[cerulean smelt]

DOA for me, don't really play with mmrs in general

[magic pilot]

I like it....

[fresh fox]

its doa because it sucks in iron horse iirc

[magic pilot]

It's bugged

The train messes it up I think

[subtle bluff]

Ditto.. I try to be like the Avg player with WD but I'm only a decent player.

[astral kraken]

"decent" is not a math term

min, max, average, median - pick one

[subtle bluff]

😨

[astral kraken]

max of course!

[cerulean smelt]

i'm trash aka below min?

[astral kraken]

stooop

[subtle bluff]

The max'ing I've been doing...

[cerulean smelt]

nice nice, i think that's above max

[astral kraken]

glorious. i didn't stand a chance.

[cerulean smelt]

the mini tanks would've found a way to destroy me

[fresh fox]

shroud assumes perfect perk targeting

[cerulean smelt]

that's some spreadsheet wizardry there

[fresh fox]

thank goodness i robbed it from some homeless dude

[astral kraken]

🐐 thanks

[fresh fox]

build is the usual 4pc hotshot chain killer airaldi vigi bag

[onyx sage]

@ancient dune

[fresh fox]

so fricking homeless

[ancient dune]

Bro wtf..

[subtle bluff]

Woah...

[fresh fox]

yea.

[ancient dune]

I see how it is.. you were just using me for my spreadsheets .........

[fresh fox]

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you forgot to send your weekly one in just so you know.

[pastel basin]

Oh I didn’t even notice that, I guess I changed it by accident lol

[coral reef]

INEVER STOP DREAMING AGENTS! Just crafted after 9000 tries for a month @subtle bluff @meager fog

[onyx sage]

noice

[subtle bluff]

Now it’s my turn…

[coral reef]

Finally I can cover myself in the glory of Perfect glass canon Pestilence build

[subtle bluff]

I more or less finished the guide.

[coral reef]

I can take it to 60% chc with a mod, but I think its better like this, right?

[subtle bluff]

IMO 60 CHC.

[buoyant perch]

`55.5x140.9 is higher than 60x(140.9-12) so this is better

[subtle bluff]

Tbh I don’t think either are wrong or right.

[meager fog]

Good job.

[agile citrus]

9k is uh... a thing. kudos for commitment. put that on a job resume lol

[cerulean smelt]

yeah no kidding. craft until out of materials go out get materials on repeat would be rough. i would've just ran countdown until i got it 😹

[agile citrus]

keep in mind, running cd or summit or retal would grant mats if you got nothing. and I can say from experience "nothing" is super common with that dumb set

[agile citrus]

I can promise you, if you only run cd, your in for a long long long ass year.

[cerulean smelt]

that's what i'm saying kind of. Kawaiizilla doing 9k tries in a month via grabbing materials to craft the piece that many times is maddening.
i would've just stuck to doing CD for it honestly with crafting in between. basically what i did anyways

think backbone was my hardest piece, don't really remember though

[cerulean smelt]

i do love that pestilience skin you got on

[scenic coral]

guys striker buff is multiplyer right? as in my dmg X striker , not my all weapon dmg + striker

[subtle bluff]

uh?

Striker stacks are an AMP? is that what you're asking?

I posted a infographic for how damage works you just need to scroll up for it or search it.

[marsh river]

I have been testing a little bit with various effects to compliment the "Advanced Material" specialization – all finds are quite superficial and not a deep dive. The emphasis here has been exclusively to make the most out of the signature weapon; the rest of the build is secondary.

• Minigun with Striker: Seems quite decent for damage, but it is incredibly awkward due to the movement limitations while using it. You are always exposed and lack a shield, so it's high risk. Builds Striker stacks very fast and delivers solid damage. Rating: 7/10

• Minigun with Tip of the Spear (ToTS): Very poor performance. Deals significantly less damage than a stacked-up Striker, and is noticeably worse outside of the ability cooldown. Rating: 3/10

(1 of 3)

• Flamethrower with Tip of the Spear (ToTS): Extremely low utility. Delivers mid-range damage with the Flamethrower, and the performance is miserable outside of cooldown. This is one of the clear losers among the variations. Rating: 2/10

• Missile Launcher with an Explosive Skill Build: Disappointing! The rocket launcher is incredibly awkward and slow to use, and the damage per hit is not impressive. You might have an exclusive scenario where rockets can quickly eliminate a chungus, but for overall performance, it's a complete underperformer. Rating: 1/10

(2 of 3)

• Grenade Launcher with Explosive Skill Build: Solid, but tricky to use. Requires significant player skill to aim correctly and maintain high damage uptime. The main downside is that poor aiming can cause self-damage, and reload times are long. Overall quite effective. Rating: 7/10

• Flamethrower with Eclipse: The clear winner for me. Eclipse and the Flamethrower have an incredible synergy where you can just gently tap an enemy to set the entire room on fire. The burn damage is immense and spreads very effectively to nearby enemies. Downsides: It performs poorly at range and against non-burning targets. Feels extremely rewarding and fun in small areas. Rating: 8/10

(3 of 3)

[subtle bluff]

This isn't a build nor a talking about build. Fairly off topic here. You could leave this in chat or redit...

I miss my Six12

[scenic coral]

oh i was just wondering if there is a point at striker stacks levels where adding all weapon dmg would be better than more amp, my new poison is tinker gr9 frenzy + ranger striker, dint find that info u posted

[subtle bluff]

Here

Sorry I should of said. Search my name for image.

[scenic coral]

oh nice so ranger it is then since amp x amp

[agile citrus]

Signature weapons are redundant. There may be a "modifier" that makes ammo right now but in 7 weeks it won't. Tip of the spear is the only option cuz it's the only reliable signature weapon ammo supplier.

[verbal gust]

Tip of the scale is amazing. Why are people using rifles though?

[agile citrus]

Also they deal significantly less DMG to yellow bar enemies. Or named

[subtle bluff]

No. He's dumb.

[scenic coral]

u guys obviously do not understand the elegance of homing rockets

[verbal gust]

That’s like saying I don’t understand the elegance of candles I die looking at one. If you wanna run too of the spear and shoot grenades with your sig weapon go for it. Lmk how many games you actually play without getting kicked.

[agile citrus]

Lissen I luv my chungus build, but I would never in a millions use it outside of chilling. I ain't going into incursion or Lego with that, and if my team is.. eh, I'm using something else in heroic or lower

[scenic coral]

this game needs more rocket type guns

[verbal gust]

It’s not gta sorry

[verbal gust]

How dare you call me dumb I’m pretty smart if you ask me. I can go to the toilet with no legs I’m sure that’s a talent.

[agile citrus]

Technically I believe there's explosive ammo. Which works like you'd think it would, after a full clip, the target finally explodes

[verbal gust]

He ain’t getting into a raid with tip of the spear bro sorry. Uh uh.

[scenic coral]

is it that weird left right rifle?

[verbal gust]

No no it’s a right left rifle

[cerulean smelt]

you're just a run a mill social butterfly princess? everything has to be about you?

[red island]

bluescreen dilemma with overdogs right ?

[agile citrus]

Well yes, rav has boom boom, so does regulus and uh. It's a rifle, MERCILESS

[cerulean smelt]

and another for the ignore list joy. now i just don't know who's saying what 🤔

[agile citrus]

Funnily enough you can use these in the event for explosive DMG!

[verbal gust]

Who me?

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure any weapon with on going directive will explode as well honestly

[agile citrus]

But no, I genuinely believe there is in fact explosive DMG bullets. I think it looks like an ammo icon of a bullet standing up with a odd spiky fan lining its left side

[scenic coral]

think about it, if our second weapon could be like a basic rpg, instead of clunky grenade launcher, or grenade throwing. a trail of white smoke, enemies flying in the air, wont that be so nice. and the enemies already have rpgs , devs just gotta let us use it.

[cerulean smelt]

but the 3 you listed are the ones that provides more boom explosion

[agile citrus]

Yeh, but sexy wants explosive weapons. I'm showing him we have them.

[cerulean smelt]

Iron horse has rpgs we can use though?

[agile citrus]

Making a set with explosive ammo generator might be interesting tho

The ammo isn't super ammo with its ramp up so yeh

[red island]

explosive ammo is just a status effect applied to target, its different to actual explosions u can have with skills, regulus, etc

[cerulean smelt]

uh, on going direcive already gives explosive ammo. tip of the spear regenerate your grenade and rocket launcher ammo

[agile citrus]

OD?

[scenic coral]

lol its been so long i totally forgot about that, but yeah, out of the raid.

[agile citrus]

I thought that was bleed. I don't use it so I'm prob being dum

[red island]

bleed comes from explosive ammo

[cerulean smelt]

so you don't listen to those miniature explosions?

[agile citrus]

Ok, I thought bleed came from shrapnel cuts, but I guess I was looking at the DMG definition wrong.

[scenic coral]

well they named it hollow points

[red island]

its the same thing but hollow point has bonus damage like high velocity round

[cerulean smelt]

been an extremely long time for me to but i still remember that mechanic. what's the matter with you? 😹

[agile citrus]

I'm not super into guns but I thought hollow point was armor piercing, which ment you bleed after it hits you. Armor is negated

Oh well. Love and learn

Uh.. live and learn, but I don't want to change that typo

[scenic coral]

hahaha cuz i never do any mechanics

[cerulean smelt]

neither do i but i do kill things that moves

[red island]

the only thing that bypass armor is poison from npc and steam from environment, everything else will hit armor first, for balance purpose

[scenic coral]

yeah thats literally all i could do , back then ppl were like so bad, i remember if i dont nemesis perch in dh ppl randomly to mobs

[red island]

back then people were bad but we also werent that strong

i remember we had nearly no dps in raids cause we had gear that was awful, striker didnt even exist

exotics werent a thing either beside the few quest ones

[cerulean smelt]

well, it did but that missed shots losing 2 stacks made it not that great in general

exotis were just didn't get used for raids really

[scenic coral]

yah but there was like common sense dps stuff u need to wear, like contractors, fox, ceska, prov. but u always a few that dont have these, and wear slot in like blue dots. like gawd.... why

[cerulean smelt]

imagine back in the day with out recalibration. those were the days 😹

[scenic coral]

omg bro , praying n praying for that ceska backpack. focus fenris, those were the days

[red island]

back then we didnt have optimization, so if u had a bad roll, tough luck
and no luck refarming it forever in cd cause it wasnt a thing either, same summit or retal

[cerulean smelt]

i was baffled trying to kill a guy in DZ wearing Negotiator's dilemma with clutch gloves on themselves. you can say i went boom because of that lol

[verbal gust]

Rule 12 bro il make sure i take care of it. Thanks.

[scenic coral]

well its like every other mmo, theres just always badly geared ppl. thats why i never created raids. having to inspect gear 1 by 1 feels so intern

[cerulean smelt]

imagine when they changed countdown difficulty and people actually did that before running heroic

[red island]

u dont need to check gear now, we so overpowered even a bad build can clear fast

[scenic coral]

yah man when i started again last week i saw like 20k 30k level ppl i was like ok sounds about right, then in countdown there was this dude that was 100k+ i had to manually count the digits to make sure. like wtf

this two deserve support, actually providing a useful service. btw do you guys have any other place to check when servers are back? is there an alert somewhere?

[red island]

litterally in #server-status

[cerulean smelt]

pointed someone in t2d community to a channel under announcments #server-status

[red island]

watching a stream to see if a game is up is wild

[cerulean smelt]

well, if you dont see it, then it's not important enough (> <)

[red island]

u can do the same thing yourself lol

[scenic coral]

omg what a scam for today

[scenic coral]

its faster to go on twitch than to start up the game though, my pc slow sad....

[cerulean smelt]

that's when they sent that message. you'll obviously be looking or a 10/28/2025 x time......

[red island]

if its on maintenance time wont matter, and if its not, then its faster to boot up the game than watching a stream and then boot up the game lol

[rotund hearth]

Why are you talking about maintenance in the build advice channel?

[scenic coral]

ya but its the last message, they dint even post about todays maintaince, its like cheating you with tiny fineprint

[red island]

cause new people talk about it

[cerulean smelt]

because they asked about where to find it #td2-build-advice message

[scenic coral]

cuz me bored cuz maintainance'

[red island]

be bored but stop spamming the wrong channel then

[verbal gust]

Can we talk about builds now?

[rotund hearth]

Redirect to the appropriate channel then cut the conversation or continue it on the appropriate channel.

[red island]

most people dont read channels, so its faster to just tell them than saying "ask somewhere else"

[cerulean smelt]

i'm curious. how did sexy lots live this long 🤔

[scenic coral]

sheer fkin luck still alive dude

[verbal gust]

Right?

[rotund hearth]

Back to builds. I am curently using Tipping Scales with Bullet King and Overdogs.

[red island]

ok ?

[cerulean smelt]

your verdict?

i use GR9 or Stoner myself with frenzy and enjoy it

[verbal gust]

Nice I hit expertise 30 using same build but trying to get those exotic components is a real trick.

[red island]

its already known that build is good, not much else to see

[rotund hearth]

What chest piece to use with it and the talent?

[cerulean smelt]

unfortuantely it doesn't do too much to them miniwarhounds 🤔
ceska obliterate

[red island]

pgc, ceska oblit are both good options

[verbal gust]

I use gear set with turmoil

[rotund hearth]

Which 4 pieces of TS would you use with the build?

[cerulean smelt]

well, wtih overdogs obvioulsy mask, backpack, holster and knees

[rotund hearth]

Have to disagree with that one.

[red island]

u can check the spreadsheet on pinned comments

[rotund hearth]

I know, but I am asking for players opinions.

[red island]

then u not gonna get any definitive answer, spreadsheet is known best option numbers wise

[cerulean smelt]

i tried, but it didn't do as well as me turning on advanced materials and mowing them down with minigun

[red island]

advance mat + mingun is more dps than any build

[verbal gust]

It’s ok they were asking for opinions trying to shift into actual channel discussion haha

[cerulean smelt]

so true, going to miss it next season

[red island]

its way too op imo

[scenic coral]

anyone try minigun with heartbreaker before? does the armor stack?

[red island]

minigun armor is repaired not bonus armor

[cerulean smelt]

funny thing, someone mentioned that's what tip of the spear should've been the advanced materials bit

[red island]

u get 50% bonus azrmor when drawing it, but thats it, its not a lot

[red island]

i been saying that for years xd, such a shame this set is so useless and weak

[verbal gust]

I use flamethrower for the shield and damage bonus for my builds. Good boost.

[cerulean smelt]

it did have it's time long time ago didn't it? they just nerfed it recently with their Rebalance patch

[red island]

nah i tried it few years ago, it was so bad, barely usable in hollywood event

and on top of that advanced material gives overcharge, more spec damage than tots, more rate of fire, unlimited ammo, thats insane

[agile citrus]

Its prob cuz due to no ss in general, this channel is kinda better for socializing. signicantly

Im not saying its a good policy, just saying limitations often result in less optimal playouts getting opportunity

[cerulean smelt]

probably get deleted by mod, they might see it as a self promotion video

[coral hatch]

oh ok no prob i read the rules didnt see an issue but all good thank you.

[quartz olive]

i have st elmos and hard wire gear. or should i use other gear set?

[cerulean smelt]

interesting, but looks like something you'd run pvping

[quartz olive]

hate pvp. i only run pve

[cerulean smelt]

is that what the build is for addsta01? or just for pve stuff?

[quartz olive]

addsta01?

[cerulean smelt]

#td2-build-advice message

i can already tell you a lot of people asking you why a regen build and just go pure weapon damage because dead things can't shoot back

[quartz olive]

as on video. i love to mmake dps over mill. i only make over 40-60k with elmo

[cerulean smelt]

seems exhausting playing shield build for me anyways

[quartz olive]

i have drone and seeking mine

[cerulean smelt]

hmm, think i scared addsta from server just giving them a heads up about youtube video 🤔

[coral hatch]

just pve stuff 👍

[cerulean smelt]

nice nice, seems like a slow build but hey if it works for you go for it. but like i said people will ask you why the build

[coral hatch]

🫡

[cerulean smelt]

is the smg a place holder for oxpecker?

[agile citrus]

40-60k 🤔

[red island]

its not written on the rule channel but its still enforced, you wont get in trouble for it they will just delete your post if you dont + tell u not to do it again

[quartz olive]

yup really low

[rich stream]

can u tell me the best builds at conflict right now im new in the game

[red island]

if you're new avoid pvp, if you wanna learn how to build, check pinned comment spreadsheet

[rich stream]

im new on pvp

[cerulean smelt]

👇 pvp discussion

[red island]

then go check pvp builds on spreadsheet

[bright raptor]

yeah it was good for sniper builds because TAC-50 kills fill Headhunter stacks fast, and the damage bonus from signature weapon kills combined with that could result in some pretty impressive Nemesis damage numbers

then they made it so signature weapon kills only buffed signature weapon damage, and introduced Hotshot

[agile citrus]

so. hard wire and elmo.... if you like skills, nothing wrong weith that, plenty of raze mains and breach mains, but hardwired imo is a very spcific role build. if your solo, or not super into the whole end game, Id suggest making a more dmg friendly build. such as heartbreaker or striker

[broken edge]

and now the buff in tips is really clunky to maintain and proc

[agile citrus]

there are way to have a high dmg yellow build, just probably not at your point. its a lot of confusing jargon, build making, library collecting and just not super great for new players. trust me, right now your most important skill, needs to be game awareness and aimtraining

[broken edge]

it went back to "you need a kill to make the bad thing strong"

it also has the trouble of constradicting buffs

[red island]

its kill something to make your spec weapon slightly less bad, empty your spec weapon then get a small buff for weapon

so 2 bad buffs that are annoying to proc on top of that

[agile citrus]

tac 50 is still one of the best ways to fill your hh. there is a reason my all red abomination build has a tact 50 expertise 30. 10m dmg is more than enough

dodge holster is good too, I just perfer memento regen and skill eff

[broken edge]

Yeah the backpack for tips, buffs regular weapons but also doubles the amount of spec ammo you get, meaning it wants you to waste more ammo to proc the effect

[red island]

yeah the bonuses are so bad and useless they contradict each others

[broken edge]

The double ammo generation should be on chestpiece, the backpack should double the frequency, so if you want to focus on regular weapon you get ammo frequently to proc the bonus and have less downtime

[red island]

yeah, but it wont have a rework, devs dont want us to use spec weapon

they let us have fun with it 1 week atfer launch then nerfed it to the ground

[broken edge]

The chestpiece should give you double ammo anytime you get any spec ammo including the talent that rewards every 3rd kill, so if you want all in in the spec you can focus on that piece

[agile citrus]

the issue with tip, after I made chungus build, is so compounded, its as memey as patriot.

not only is it near useless without chest or backpack, but realisticaly its only viable use it to keep in loadout to max your crossbow or sniper. in terms of "practical" application, it will only ever work for gunner, and its trash dmg vs bosses and it locks you to red cores, the dmg in blue or yellow is attrious, and sig weapon severely limits your movements and options, forcing you into very limited options

[red island]

half of spec weapon dont scale off red cores

[agile citrus]

even with armor on kill for gunner, +the gunner regen, your still going to end up as a fireing range. you dont regen enough to facetank 2 heroic gunners

[broken edge]

To be fair, they did rework crossbow to actually be good against armor and TAC -50 to hit harder than nemesis

[red island]

all explosive spec weapon dont scale off red core, only spec weapon damage and explosive damage

crossbow, grenade launcher, missile launcher

i tested them all to be sure

[agile citrus]

I didnt know this, but since heat seeker prioritizes head lock over weakpoint, I never use it, crossbow is 100% teambased, you can just beam the enemy fast in solo, and Im 90% I only maxed demo.. cuz.. I forget tbh

[broken edge]

devs are probably also scared of making another explosive focused set after initial negotiator shenanigans

[winged prism]

wasnt there gonna be a specialization rework though? i remember that being a big thing they promised but i havent heard a single thing about it since

[broken edge]

they said it wasnt good enough so they went to work on other things

[magic pilot]

Canceled

[winged prism]

sick

[red island]

tbh u can get crazy damage this way vs non named, but vs named and chungas..... its atrocious

chungas can eat all your explosive shots and wont even be scratched

[magic pilot]

The only change we have gotten to specializations was nerfing firewall😭

[red island]

flamethrower does scale with red core but the burn is only reinforced with status effect attributes which are bad on reds

[agile citrus]

in fairness to technian. you can get lucky and explode a weakpoint on direct land, due to explosive aoe. just dont rely on it in a build option

[red island]

all explosives damage scale also on distance from explosion

[agile citrus]

its needs a rework, to stop targeting heads unless no weak point. the design literally is ment to hurt skills and weak points. the practical application is dumb

[red island]

but its sad to have all the explosives bonus + tots bonus and then u empty 8 grenades on a chunga and he still hasnt broke armor

like, ok its tanky, but it shouldnt be THAT tanky when half a mag of my elmo break 3 pieces

[quartz olive]

okay. good to know. ive heard striker. have to look into it

[cerulean smelt]

with this seasons passive modifier you're not breaking 3 armor pieces anymore though 😹

[agile citrus]

ironically enough, explosive dmg when used on a player is hyper effective vs your shield. game logic.

[red island]

its weird that we have hh determined in the game and its fine but spec weapon being slightly strong is a nogo

[agile citrus]

even better is signature is completely nonexistent in pvp. there is 0 reason to make it a meme

[red island]

it was aviable after launch in dz, if you get a supply drop it gave you spec ammo, but it was so busted you could os the tankiest players in a single shot of anything

so if you got a single dz drop, u were godlike

[agile citrus]

if you enjoy skills you can work toward one of these. their fine for casual or even heroic is you not nub at game awarenss. just try to avoid bring it in inc/raids or lego unless your like top player level.

just know these builds are down the road and take a bit

you may find by the time you can put these together, you have other options, make your own build or just play diff

[cerulean smelt]

please don't do ninjabike backpack. car still isn't convinced it's horrible

[magic pilot]

Casual heroic with directives

[agile citrus]

in fairness, I have taken that nb build into inc, and actively turned a wipe fest into a win. leave nb a lone for a day 🙁

[cerulean smelt]

nice build, wish i was as good as you (> <)

[agile citrus]

dont do this. souless is like one of the best players in div.

[red island]

i mean, someone cleared dua legendary on all grey + elmo

[agile citrus]

THAT AINT REFLEX

[cerulean smelt]

@onyx sage you've been demoted in car's eyes

[magic pilot]

Anyone can do it, really not that hard

Headhunter is op

[cerulean smelt]

it really is

[red island]

tbh that build is clearly easy af

[magic pilot]

Trust me if @urban latch can run that build anyone can

[agile citrus]

Iv never tried.... Ima be real, I dislike cancer and enjoy grabing a bag of chips and not watching for a random ass rv car to come say hi, hiking me back to start. Im just like.. they were black tusk.. the fuh?

[cerulean smelt]

i'm sorry that didn't seem like a compliment

[agile citrus]

bro you ever been chilling in open world, all directives, heroic, minding your own business, commiting war crimes against tusk, cleaners, you know. and suddenly a dam purple no pfe rv car comes over and says "involuntary hitchhike kidnapping, get in and have candy"

[magic pilot]

It wasn't, the guy doesn't even know 7 skill tiers don't do anything

[agile citrus]

I mean... blue core would make you live longer when your randomly jumped by the scooby gang

[red island]

not really cause they will shred you regardless

[agile citrus]

lissen... if your running.. may as well. 170k more hp ARMOR I SWEAR IF ONE PERSON

[cerulean smelt]

uh oh, you woke raucey up @magic pilot

[urban latch]

an armor core on that build is actively worse for you since your often wiping with it anyways

[agile citrus]

ITS NOT WORSE!!! YOU HAVE USELES STAT

nah. Im not. this is my first day on new job. nupe

[urban latch]

at least im not slow AF like @vestal ibex

[meager fog]

You're trying to argue that a single blue core isnt useless?

[agile citrus]

no Im argueing its not worse than 7 skill tiers

[urban latch]

it no joke actually is though

[honest moss]

Need me a 8 or 9 skill tier build lol

[agile citrus]

bro reached into his build and said... but wut if.. this piece just didnt have a core. better than blue tbh

[meager fog]

It actively is though....

[agile citrus]

ok. Im not super great with numbers. how exactly does 1 blue core, make a 7 skill tier build worse

[patent fossil]

For an oxi build, having that blue core might give you an extra 0.5s to dive backwards when you accidentally hit an invisible railing in front of you and oxi yourself

[agile citrus]

btw, I genuiely believe red is better but Im basing it off the logic that the man is in the shower, making a a youtube vid for afk builds

[urban latch]

often part of your role when using an oxy build is to wipe quickly. so getting a blue core to live longer is actively worse than getting nothing

[honest moss]

Honestly with glass the one blue is pointless

[cerulean smelt]

coming from a guy still passing around a nbb striker build....

[magic pilot]

Also that, but mainly a blue would take you longer to wipe

My oxi build is 7 skill tiers too 😎

[cerulean smelt]

could push 8 with kard custom (> <)

[agile citrus]

I give up. sigh. welp I make abominations too, why the fuh not

[agile citrus]

your fired

[cerulean smelt]

with advanced materials think you can reach 14 skill tiers? 🤔

[honest moss]

They need an event where they uncap cores just for fun

[agile citrus]

Uh. yeh. no other comment

[cerulean smelt]

what about just a season modifier?

[honest moss]

Yeah and you get extra cores as the passives... need to see a tier 20 oxi spam...

Give the hunters some real ptsd

[agile citrus]

lets be real.... they uncapped cc

[honest moss]

5min foam 😭

[agile citrus]

its not like the teir buffs actually change in % buffs

[cerulean smelt]

ah yes, i'd love to find those walls you can shoot a gun through it, but you pull your oxi and it just splats all over yourself and you just drop. then you drop your hive and it goes poof

[magic pilot]

Nah make the event count minor attributes as cores

Every crit roll is a weapon core

[honest moss]

Lol add friendly fire for fun too

[agile citrus]

imagine if teir increase oxi radius and you cast it in a dz and the whole dz hey F this guy, go back to gta

[honest moss]

Yeah this would actually be funny

[cerulean smelt]

sighs i miss BFB from Div 1. would be great if they gave us a gearset for it

[honest moss]

If it did duration + radius i think you would nuke the entire dz lmao

The npcs outside will be dying off

[honest moss]

Miss the firecrest stuff, love me some gimmick sets

[agile citrus]

make a vid called "they said it couldnt be done. keener was weak, Im the worlds only hope. I will wipe the planet clean of weakness." immediately dies cuz he forgot 100% hazpro

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i do miss that too

was praying that spinning turret set would've been it. reading the talent i was like yes firecrest 2.0! but was disappointed

[honest moss]

Yeah i like exuro but it doesn't hit the same, was in the same boat

Need a drone that shoots fire for firecrest 2.0

Give it a lil dragon skin lol

[cerulean smelt]

that i'd pay money for

[honest moss]

Honestly super happy they started doing vfx stuff, just hope they keep it up with fun stuff. Used to be kinda sad there were no other skins for skills when it seems like such a free idea

[cerulean smelt]

same, i enjoy the pumpkin seekers

[honest moss]

The chuckle when you target is great lol nice touch

[cerulean smelt]

and it's continuous chuckling as it chases it's target

[magic pilot]

When is the maintenance today?

[cerulean smelt]

people in general saying server is up

[wicked sinew]

Is it practical to do something like shield & explosives build or would that be not specific enough?

[broken edge]

You need to be a bit more specific, you will be mostly focused on skill tiers that does buff your Shields

Cause theres focusing on nuking rooms with a mortar turret and spamming seekers mines more constantly

[honest moss]

I guess you could do a weird striker shield for the buff build but idk. Usually for explo you double down on the skills and like bird shot said more often than not you wanna be bombing spawns

[magic pilot]

Just run mortar with bulwark

[hexed steppe]

Yes, hardwire can use shield as the proc for feedback loop talent in a seeker spam type setup.
Its not super popular but should function well. I would probably crusader so you can run capacitor /insync shotgun

[marsh river]

i have a question.

about eclipse build. the backpack talent- amplify damage to status affected targets. does that also apply to my burns? so the burn is a status effect that amplifies itself?

i was considering 3p eclipse 2p ortiz ninja bag.. for maximum fire oomph

[magic pilot]

Yea it does

[proper sigil]

What do yall recommend when making a build with Rigger?

[hexed steppe]

Nice placeholder in the stash maybe

Actually its a waste of space there too.

Look into refactor and it will perform 1000% better than rigger

[hexed steppe]

Don't waste your time. Losing the ep bag is like losing a free perfect glass cannon. The trade of amp for some minor gains is exactly why nbb is a noob trap

[proper sigil]

lol I have a refactor loadout, I was seeing if there was any reason go make a rigger loadout

[cloud laurel]

Rigger or He skill dmg for striker and turret are both trash, refactor like above said are 1000% better

[hexed steppe]

If you want bigger burn damage just use glass chest on the ep build. Obv this is less spread but if just looking to push big numbers that's the way.
Also adding capacitor and letting your fire dip into skill damage as well as the status effects that's already stacked. Just make sure to stack cap before firing off skill, skill damage is snap shot at time of deploy

[hexed steppe]

There isn't, not for damage anyways. You may do some niche stuff with a decoy but youll ultimately be a burden in group and really really slow clearing solo

[patent fossil]

Decoy/trap support build with 99% uptime?
Could be useful in a group legendary with dps players, but there's generally better options (like foam)

[marsh river]

yeah i know... ninjabike is so cool, its just on the wrong item slot.. any other would be godlike

[turbid tree]

maybe a old weird question but i'm a little outdated with builds but i see the pestilence build is still a thing only mine does not that much damage as this build is from....maybe 2021 xD what is the recommended thing nowadays? because i can find a build, but not which stats or anything

[proper sigil]

What I can tell you pestilence is really useful cuz the effect spreads to nearby enemies once the affected enemy dies from it, only stronger, so I would say get a build that prioritizes damage like striker’s battlegear

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=drivesdk

Totally normal thing to ask. We have a good resource for that as well

[proper sigil]

I might actually use this guide cuz I have a pestilence lmg that is already effective enough but only cuz of damage lol

[hexed steppe]

The builds in our sheet are all tested and peer reviewed

[turbid tree]

i know i still love the gun for it

but i realised my 2021 stuff is no longer working xD

ohh i see a new item

jeez i am really outdated.. xD

[hexed steppe]

How are you currently set.
There are image perms here if it makes it easier to share

[turbid tree]

mu current set... i have to log in for that

2 sec while i also eat my food

[hexed steppe]

Np. Glass chest and vigilance bag will go a long way to increasing damage. Red cores, total weapon damage, dta, dttooc, amps all increase pesti ticks.
Tipping scales is a solid setup for pesti.

-# damage to armor
-# damage to target out of cover

[turbid tree]

alright i have 1 grupo, 3 providence, contracters gloves, 1 ceska

[proper sigil]

I’ve been looking for ways to improve my skills loadout because while my skills is effective against enemies, my weapon damage isnt good unless my capacitor is hitting something while my skills are

[turbid tree]

sorry what are dttooc and amps?

[hexed steppe]

He red still ok, but yeah, its outclassed

See the subtext

[turbid tree]

yes i know xD i can't do heroic anymore

[hexed steppe]

Amps are like glass cannon

[turbid tree]

is glass canon a good idea while always being alone?

i still use the reviver hive

[hexed steppe]

Yes, I pretty much exclusively run glass. Its necessary for pesti if you want your damage ticks to have teeth

[turbid tree]

ahh

am i still allowed to bring that build to raids?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah

Most do striker for raid dps now

Striker got a huge buff

[turbid tree]

yeah i knmow striker from the first game

how do i get that exotic gloves item?

[hexed steppe]

Its top single target damage now.

Nego would be top multitarget damage

[proper sigil]

Do retaliation and fight kill squads in hopes to get one

[turbid tree]

yeah i read about that too but was also unclear to me

[hexed steppe]

Overdogs are a season reward. Can use contractors in place of them

[turbid tree]

sorry i'm still figuring out what that is

looks like i need to find myself some friends again i guess

[hexed steppe]

Not correct

[hexed steppe]

We all friends here

[turbid tree]

you gonna play with me then? xD

[proper sigil]

Wait I thought it was that though

[hexed steppe]

No season track reward. All good

[hexed steppe]

You can add me and I'll help farm when im on. Same ign

[turbid tree]

sounds great 😄 are you on the same timezone too?

[hexed steppe]

Doubt. Central us

[turbid tree]

i'm dutch

[hexed steppe]

But im on random times

[turbid tree]

ahh yeah it will be morning for you then

i do have to switch games in 3 hours but i'll go myself and see what i get as well 😄 thanks anyway

[subtle bluff]

Builds!

[hexed steppe]

[turbid tree]

oh i'm dumb i see how i get the gloves now

good thing also i have way enough resources

[solar sable]

@ivory furnace
You choose

[ivory furnace]

So from these, I can target farm each of these individual items from the same activity?

[proper sigil]

No, you have to redo the activity for each of the set you do, like you do retaliation for just the striker gear, do it again for the that chest gear, and again for smgs

[ivory furnace]

I don’t have to switch missions though, I can just reselect the same one over and over?

[solar sable]

yup
Left pic:
Striker’s Battlegear (both crit stats)
Backpacks (Memento)
Česká Výroba (Both crits and Obliterate)

Right pic:
Hunter's Fury and the rest is the same.

[patent fossil]

Generally easier to run countdown for loot farming rather than retaliation. Just matchmake for it on challenging difficulty and you're good to go

[proper sigil]

For endgame, specific areas and missions will have a set targeted loot, but to save time on looking for the ones that gives out the ones you need, you could do retaliation, summit, or countdown with the targeted loot you need

I like to do retaliation cuz I get to run and shoot instead of needing to do different objectives

[subtle bluff]

Go to the Pinned Messages > Spreadsheet 2 > Build Hub > Look for Farm Guide.

[wary crypt]

Any tips for big horn pve build?

[calm tree]

Best way to obtain tinkerer’s mask rn?

[scenic coral]

just clear the manager manhunt at master level, confirmed drop

[calm tree]

Never heard of it. Do I need like a pass or something or I can do it rn?

[magic pilot]

You can do it rn

[subtle bluff]

Manhunt

[marsh river]

found a new meta build on random teammate in heroic mission , seems very powerful

[subtle bluff]

Joking around about a SHD 70 build is rather.....

[gentle lichen]

scraping the bottom of the barrel atp

[hexed steppe]

Posted a few winning ideas yourself 🪞

[marsh river]

🫃

[magic pilot]

while using cluster seekers 💀

rule 12 btw

[subtle bluff]

He already broke that making a "review' on something with specialization weapons? no idea didn't read it really.

It doesn't take much tbf. anyhoo

[meager fog]

Thats an oof and a goodbye

[verbal fulcrum]

What's good bulid for a gunner specialisation

[meager fog]

Strikers, ND, OD, TS pretty much anything full red

[verbal fulcrum]

Cheers mate i am kinda new to this stuff and its way completely different

[gentle lichen]

Think of the gunner aok as a passive regen to your red builds

[meager fog]

Gunner spec is used for the 10% Armour on kill, works to help keep a squishy build alive

@hexed steppe didnt want this to get missed, thats a digusting way to speak to people.

[gentle lichen]

Pretty sure that first word is an ableist term

[subtle bluff]

tbh he probably blocked you too but he still reads my posts hehe

[meager fog]

Maybe, just didn't want that to get away. Horrible word to use

[subtle bluff]

It's take too much to offense me. I didn't even blink at that being rude idk..

[hexed steppe]

Let's all tone down. We can critique politely.

[past spade]

is the backfire build with striker and memento with a bunch of blues any good? im new

[patent fossil]

not really, that one was based around the seasonal modifiers last season, it's weaker now

[subtle bluff]

The build was rizzed by Content Creators for last season modifiers. It's a build that can work but imo it's not needed vs other ways of doing it.

For new players I do not recommend at all.

[agile citrus]

its a good build, but in general I only use it to carry. its boring, its high survive and has dmg equal to an elmo, which defeats backfires purpose

I run with survialist, 4 piece striker with chest, chill mask, and 4 pfe. boring build, but used to carry and make sure the missions succeeds. all crit dmg cept for 1, dtooc. I keep a lefty with +5% fire rate, fire rate mod too.

[subtle bluff]

That's a weird way to run it imo..

[agile citrus]

tbh, its a stack replacement for my heartbreaker cd carry.

[subtle bluff]

I mostly hate MPX weapon handling that they nerfed in TU22 at ranges +26m

[agile citrus]

its does it more effienctly cuz dogs are annoying.

[subtle bluff]

Strike Chest with BF is really work against itself.

Get a another chest talent to do more one way or another.

[agile citrus]

striker chest is so I can run chill mask and +58% pfe

[subtle bluff]

Meh...

[agile citrus]

I dont really care about the 20% obl, specially since 90% of cd your at full stacks. in heroic. cd exists to call div a bullet sponge

[subtle bluff]

If you really want to do mad stuff Memento / Intimated is some of the best DPS and Survival you'll ever need.

In heroic you don't that or any PFE imo

I use to do Tech Tank w/BF. It worked just felt like crap in most missions where I have to reach out.

[past spade]

can you show me an example pls?

[subtle bluff]

What SHD are you?

[past spade]

137

[subtle bluff]

TBH just grind out striker and all the chest and library first before worrying out BF build

[past spade]

i just need anything atp

[subtle bluff]

If you go to the Pinned Messages > Spreadsheet 2 > Build Hub you'll find a bunch of good info

There's a farm guide you should look at

[meager fog]

Use this for now. Farm other stuff later, but this will get you going.

And its easy to farm

[subtle bluff]

I really need to update the guide with overdogs.

[meager fog]

I really need to update that picture so it doesnt have 3x CHD on the chest lmao

[subtle bluff]

Or actually get on my DPS build guide

[past spade]

i have the one with coyote mask

trying to find this farm guide on the spreadsheet

[meager fog]

Coyotes mask used to be best in slot becaise nothing else complimented strikers as well.

Overdogs gloves are one of the single strongest pieces of equipment in the game for DPS now

Theyre a staple for almost all full red builds

[meager fog]

Im working on some video footage for various DPS builds. Playstyles, tactics, survival and getting the best from them. Working on TS, Nego, Strikers and OD

Trying to drown out the typical youtube tripe

[subtle bluff]

It's by me. You need to scroll down a bit. It's something like: CD and Summit Farm Guide
sorry I'm mobile.
One sec I have another one here

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/234461-tom-clancys-the-division-2/faqs/82038

Both work.

Thanks @magic pilot

[past spade]

i see

[agile citrus]

bros new. theres no way hell use OD effeicnetly

Im not being mean, or unrealistic. in combat od requires calm, just almost measured reaction.

I dont even use it and I know enemy types. its sooo much micromanagment for its effect. becomes immediatly pointless when lowbie hides in the back and/or a new mob joins in, but you dont know it

[magic pilot]

good thing its striker....

[subtle bluff]

OD is great.

[gentle lichen]

I think they're talking about overdogs

[subtle bluff]

I replied to the OD statement 🤷

[agile citrus]

OVERDOGS!!!KLWFJKLDGFHGJDFKL

FFFFT! you know what Im not even mad. I shoulda seen it comeing -_- when you know why your trolled without even scrolling up. you prob trolled yourself.

on a dumber note. Im farming a od set, with memento and hh chest. cuz I want to see what heppens

[subtle bluff]

I've played with OD every different way there is.

[wary crypt]

How to get perfect intimidate ?

[cerulean smelt]

ny hunters, there are guides out there for them

[subtle bluff]

But then it's not really worth it for 1 more stack.

[cerulean smelt]

slow stacks at that isn't it?

[subtle bluff]

it's what 6 to 7 stacks? or is it 7 to 8?

"While you have bonus armour, gain 3 stacks each second up to a max of 9 (10). Each stack increases total weapon damage by 4% to enemies within 10m.

All stacks are lost when you have no bonus armour."

Both wrong. LOL 9 to 10 for P.

[cerulean smelt]

"While you have bonus armour, gain 1 stack each second up to a max of 8. Each stack increases total weapon damage by 5% to enemies within 10m.
All stacks are lost when you have no bonus armour."

[subtle bluff]

where did you get that one from?

[cerulean smelt]

least according to this sheet in the pins here

[subtle bluff]

OOOOOH

[shy willow]

It's probably worth it if you're running Golan anyway for the regen

[shy willow]

Oh this was after the nerf

[subtle bluff]

I seeeee what we messed up. Anyone got a in-game pic for me them?

Need to talk to the 🐐

[agile citrus]

I luv bh ^_^

[cerulean smelt]

am i wrong in thinking they nerfed it by making it stack slower or something? like before you got bonus armor you were at full stack? then they changed it recently?

[shy willow]

Yeah it used to be you got all the damage like basically instantly then they nerfed it to take 5 business days to stack

Then more recently it takes 3-4 seconds and you get max damage

[cerulean smelt]

lol 5 business days i love it

[cerulean smelt]

btw: the NY hunters bounce between NY and DC if i remember correctly and a lot were between 9pm in game time to 5am in game time

[subtle bluff]

Fixed

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i haven't touched that chest in forever aside just doing the hunters and stashing it and then destroying it because we were extremely limited and exotics was coming out of the wordworks and filling up my stash

[subtle bluff]

I don't think I have it unlocked and I am bugged for the DLC one

[gloomy spruce]

Bugged? How?

[cerulean smelt]

i have it unlocked but i always pick it up and dismantle it immediately since i can never see a use for it

[subtle bluff]

Can't get one of the keys for it.

[cerulean smelt]

maybe tried to do the steps but they don't spawn becuase of whatever reason

[gloomy spruce]

ooof

I got mine unlocked and then bought the blueprint from Inaya

I have crafted one or 2 since.

[cerulean smelt]

how do you get a blueprint from inaya for hunter-killer chest?

[gloomy spruce]

I walked up to her and bought it.

I can show you a pic of my bench. I have the blueprint.

[cerulean smelt]

i don't remember being able to buy the hunter blueprints at all, only going through descent and now retaliations with the reconstructed caches

[gloomy spruce]

I bought it from her on the first week of this season.

I also got the Shield Splinterer blueprint the same way.

[agile citrus]

^ @cerulean smelt

[cerulean smelt]

maybe i did to, but i just don't remember it and was oh cool hunter blueprints and neve rlooked at it again

[cerulean smelt]

again you speak in a way as if it's a fact

[subtle bluff]

Here

[gloomy spruce]

NYC Hunters. There are guides to it. After you gather all the keys, you get the Hunter-Killer. It has perfect intimidate. After you get that, you can then buy the blueprints from Inaya at the white house.

Craft until you get one with the rolls that you want or is serviceable.

[agile citrus]

lets break down each seg and you tell me where it sounds like a fact. Im not saying Im right, Im saying Im willing to listen to make my self less of an ass.

if you like skills, nothing wrong with that

imo hardwire is very specific role

if your solo, or not super into end game, Id suggest more dmg friendly, such as heartbreaker or striker

I highlighted area where I tried to clarify, this is my view, or I left it open to choice but offered suggestion

[chrome cradle]

What am I doing wrong? Heartbreaker build btw

Also I just got back into the game since like December

[agile citrus]

use a vigil backpack or memento. not sure the purpose of the knees. can use ceska or fox prayer instead. thats all really imo

also expertise your pulse. it goes a long way for cooldown if your going ot use that lmg, consider techinian. for laser vs dogs and skills/objecxtive

[subtle bluff]

Your DPS is bad with not having your CHC/CHD higher. Crit is a lot of your DPS.

[subtle bluff]

He's SHD 66... Don't tell him to expertise for a build...

[agile citrus]

also consider a dtooc acs12. might work better

[chrome cradle]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YALL ARE ON ABOUT 😭

[subtle bluff]

Why I posted a guide for you

[cerulean smelt]

basically go get a heartbreaker holster and knee pads. swap your mask to coyote exoticc if you happen to have one. if not coyoted a grupo mask will suffice as a place holder. ceska backpack with vigilince is a must
edit: also swap to technician specialization and use the gun mentioned Police M4 so you can use the techinican underbarrel attachment so you point gun you pulse you get heartbreaker stacks

[chrome cradle]

Ok

[cerulean smelt]

is that GR9 LMG you have the named version per chance?

@subtle bluff does the gr9 allow the techinical laser pointer mod?

[subtle bluff]

iirc but not having 2 other mods slots for CHC mods isn't great

[gentle lichen]

nah

otherwise dare would've been seen more

[subtle bluff]

True

[cerulean smelt]

thought so but couldn't remember honestly. don't they have an AR version of it as well?

[subtle bluff]

Like the guide says but IMO killer is better.

[cerulean smelt]

oh that ar. nm.....

[cerulean smelt]

your picture guide shows flatline for the talent

[subtle bluff]

I didn't make that one.

[cerulean smelt]

oh nm XD

[subtle bluff]

I haven't pullout my HB builds in a long time.

I'm started 4 lines on my DPS builds guide....

[cerulean smelt]

nice nice, complete with all the formula behind it?

[subtle bluff]

Ya reminds me I need to finish the infographic first.

[cerulean smelt]

i'm surprised with how long the game been out and known formulas being around but changed because of ubi changing things or adding new stuff that needs to be added later wasn't already in the pins here

[chrome cradle]

Is there any way for me to use bullet king?

[cerulean smelt]

nothings stopping you, but you'll have to beam heads to "pulse" to build stacks or use the skill pulse to get stacks then wait for the cooldown to pulse again

[chrome cradle]

Ok

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff any clue if the sharpshooter pulse drone counts? i imagine it would but i havent' played heartbreaker in forever to recall

[agile citrus]

why is bh dmg logging as dbl

this isnt the number off enemy

specifically, its x2 the floating number off enemy. I do hit 3m but only on hh first bullet after hs kill with bh

[subtle bluff]

Go big or go home!

[chrome cradle]

Where can I get coyote mask again?

[subtle bluff]

You can target it or just get them out of exo caches

[cerulean smelt]

believe retaltions has a blueprint for it as well, but that's more of a long term commitment
basically choosing the correct faction into a genocide to make them trigger a retaliation and them choosing random areas to claim and you go in a timed event to gain control of the area and think a 50% chance of getting an exotic blueprint or something

part i missed out would be continuing your genocide of said faction for their materials to craft said exotic
countdown -> Summit would probably be a bit faster to getting a drop of it countdown more as think every 2 to 3 runs you can use the countdown credits to buy an exotic cache

you know i haven't tried sicne roguegold did an analysis of countdown vs retaliations. think countdown queue got slower because of that?

[agile citrus]

heartbreaker is the only thing I ever did right in this game, outside of abomination builds. The most powerfull build for heartbreaker, imo is fox prayer knees, memento, 4 piece heartbreaker (with chest) all crit chance. bighorn or backfire for your main. if its backfire, go all crit dmg for attritues. only use 3 blue cores, this includes meento. choose between headshot/crit dmg or prot against elites for mods.

a alternative and viable option, is ceska backpack with vigil, catharsis, 4 piece heartbreaker with all blue (not ceska backpack.

@subtle bluff his build is very high dmg, but remember the higher the dmg in this game, the more game awarenss needed. catharsis can make up for a lot

use techinian, with riot foam and shield. use pulse lazer on acs12 with target to dmg out of cover and brazen or flatline

[subtle bluff]

This is where I'd like to say just stop feeding him more info. He's got guide if there something else he needs or ask help him then. That all very confusing for someone that's very new still.

[agile citrus]

can you pls use demo on the trueson chungus 🙁