td2-build-advice

[faint frost]

i need to pay more attention to the number, but it seems less than full obliterate stacks

[subtle bluff]

You already have TWD from the BP. GC is amp

[hexed steppe]

shouldnt the dot just be a nice bonus... if dot is doing most of the damage, then youre on the wrong build

are bloody knuckles total weapon damage or just wd

[shy willow]

Glass cannon is just the best for pesti anyway

Big buff to dot and weapon damage

[hexed steppe]

ofc

[subtle bluff]

GC with one blue core

Obli with all red

[rain shuttle]

Which countdown would you recommend? o-o

I haven't been playing the game that long xD

[onyx sage]

total

[solar sable]

Challenging

[hazy hull]

So I am finding this build great but should I swap the shield for a reviver hive since I am doing heroic content

[violet juniper]

swap jammer for a decoy

[slate spoke]

i do emp sticky and blinder on mine, and then i use UIC15 with sadist and an MG with pressure points.

[subtle bluff]

I never have a reviver hive on.

[slate spoke]

especially now with exodus gloves

[subtle bluff]

I mean for leggo I do exo but what he's running he should be fine.

[subtle bluff]

I'd also recommend using the 2nd rifle being something faster or something 45 thing or MDR just help clean stuff up.

[slate spoke]

i kind of think a pressure points gun for robots

[hexed steppe]

how i run. gunner pulse emp sticky. shouldnt need reviver or shield

[hazy hull]

My current idea is grabbing a 1886 with sadist cause this build is status effect based

[hexed steppe]

it isnt. its a dps, run it like dps support/buffer. status cant carry it

status is just what you use to increase your damage. kinda similar to how hb is a dps that uses pulse to increase damage

[slate spoke]

1886 also doesn't have enough ammo in it

[hexed steppe]

isnt there a carnage in cd vendor this week 🤔

[hazy hull]

Yes

[solar sable]

you told us, yea

[hexed steppe]

days blend as you get old... youngling

👴 \

[hazy hull]

OLD!!!!

[slate spoke]

you are not supposed to use that word anymore unless it refers to food that needs to be thrown out

here is my ongoing directive setup

[hexed steppe]

idk if there is enough crit for either of you to be running fox's on that tho

[slate spoke]

you do get 17% chd from rifles

[hazy hull]

Haven't got full crit damage yet due to my SHD level being only 394.

[hexed steppe]

its not gonna make as big of impact as you think. you can have chc chd maxed by shd 500 if focused

[slate spoke]

he probably did weapon damage first like most new players

[hexed steppe]

ig with rifle if build right. where im sitting with carnage

[hazy hull]

Did crit chance first for this agent she's my 3rd

[hexed steppe]

with no season modifiers/team buffs/ ge running im getting around 1m body crits , 1.3m head crits.

a little less on bluescreen

i messed with running m1a but wasnt feeling it on this build. if ammo was an issue i would run lmg/ar but since ammo is free 2 lmg is ezpz. also gives options if running invaded since dogs dont bleed

[slate spoke]

pressure points gun also good to get damage amp when you disrupt dogs

[hexed steppe]

scorpio was my goto for an ez backup status . idk bluescreen pretty nice, ngl. i been leaning into the coils and the crit modifiers. banshee pulse and bs proc coils a lot

[hazy hull]

Ok

[hexed steppe]

i see damage pretty close with either coyote or fox's . slightly less with fox's but within 100k. on the low crit setup i really think it would be a bigger gap with coyote. should test it out rip, 💯

then again , i wasnt using rifle. but swd is already gonna see diminishing returns on an all red

[slate spoke]

next season will probably see a lot of tinkerer/alphabridge on ongoing directive

[hexed steppe]

should be an interesting season

[slate spoke]

i assume lucky shot will stil consume a hollowpoint on a missed shot?

[onyx sage]

yes

[shy willow]

Lucky shot is just a trash talent regardless

[slate spoke]

ha yeah was just curious

[main estuary]

whats lucky shot?

[shy willow]

A talent

If you miss while in cover it refunds your bullet

I believe you passively get a bigger mag now too like 20-30 percent

[last notch]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwTgtMBMYAwWBmWy6pe1AuA7AVg4hAGzRpkFaRJTLCFEAcFzW+Ncd5XLmCALBGjAmnFmJiZhg2uPGZIDImAHAE3dfIRMBIbBFx1guariG4BXeXxPLZWYPKXqU852SA

Would this work well for hunters? I just put together haven't tried in game.

[hazy steeple]

@cerulean steeple The parts matter quite a lot in a build, if you post a screenshot of your main page, we can give you a hand.

[cerulean steeple]

Hi, I am trying to get maximum DPS from this build but am i missing something (CHC 59.7 & CHD 165)

on this screen pic

[subtle bluff]

Use Coyote or Exo gloves not foxes.

[cerulean smelt]

i was going to suggest coyote's too or get a 1 Grupo piece

[cerulean steeple]

I did try Coyote yesterday but that was with a Fenris chest, I will try them out now, cheers

[cerulean smelt]

for me personally i'd drop the elmo and don a High end Killer or Strained weapon, but that's just me

oh my, i might need me a ND build 🤔

[subtle bluff]

IMO bluescreen

[cerulean smelt]

sad we got 4ish months to wait on a exotic mask
but that might be a great thing for this build XD

[cerulean steeple]

just tried the Coyote now and it is working very well (not got a Grupo to try though) interesting about the options of alternative weapons so will try a few out, cheers for the advice

[cerulean smelt]

coyote probably the better choice considering 25% CHD in the close range 0-15m i think?

[cerulean steeple]

just another question, what is the sweet spot on CHC when using Coyote?

[cerulean smelt]

think people said to calculate what it gives in CHC for like the mid 10 and 10. so 50 maybe?

[cerulean steeple]

thank you

[dim tundra]

Hey everyone! I have the Eagle Bearer after so very long (not day one player l, but not far off.....) can anyone help me with a build? I love how it looks and I'm determined to use the damn thing, even though there is better weapons! Thanks guys!

[subtle bluff]

Same thing strikers.

[patent fossil]

For solo I use memento, ceska obliterate chest and 4pc strikers with a couple of blue cores. You have to push enemies hard and keep up the kills, but it works pretty well for heroic solo

[twilit pewter]

crossing my fingers for a Switch 2 TD2 port

[subtle bluff]

lol that's not happening ever.

[bright raptor]

yeah it's a magic smoke releaser on the Switch

[rich lotus]

So I’m guessing hunters can disrupt us regardless of what build we use? Because I noticed disrupt resistance caps at 90% in the stats. I tried 100% hazard resistance too but I guess disrupt doesn’t apply to hazard. Because they were still able to shut down my skills. I have builds that can easily kill hunters so reason for this is just out of curiosity.

[patent fossil]

No, you can make yourself immune to disrupt, but your deployed skills won't inherit that and can still be hacked or disrupted. Faraday cage can shield them from the disruption but not the hack.

Hazpro includes disrupt resist as well as fire, bleed, shock etc

[honest moss]

A very common anti hunter build is full hazpro eclipse. Amazing for countdown.

Stuff like chem and banshee are unhackable too

[hexed steppe]

👆

Also things like chem/sticky/pulse variants will all be usable if 100% hazpro or disrupt resist. Hunters in cd will need at least 97% disrupt resist to be immune.
Look at the pinned sheet for hazpro eclipse.
There is also a resistance chart on one of the tabs in that same sheet

[lyric prism]

is The Virginian good for something?

reads like a poormans diamondback.

[slate spoke]

after the diamondback was buffed a while back i'm not sure. Maybe if you hate reloading.

[lyric prism]

I think I have seen one ever drop before, its rolled 95% the good way so I kept it.

see if I can find a place to use it but the diamondback does good damage (when I actually care to use it)

[slate spoke]

your just going to get extra sustain damage from it since it basically refunds a bullet on 45% of the shots.

[lyric prism]

yea. it might become a cache queen.

edit*

[slate spoke]

its not a trash gun, just hard to find a place for it between the diamondback, M1A classic, and a determind 1886.

its closest competitor i think is actually going to be the m1a. similar roles.

[lyric prism]

yea

I'm also know not to keep things I don't use.

[slate spoke]

its a darkzone, event cache exclusive i believe

[lyric prism]

got it in a named cache from a countdown vendor.

[slate spoke]

ahh i think they might have made those the same as the event caches now

but you shouldn't be able to get a virginian with rifle target loot in countdown.

[lyric prism]

no on the drop, yes on the named item caches.

I get all my DZ drops from those. Orbit, Brutus, named gear, etc. I don't DZ much.

I also have like 300+ slots free in the box so not exactly worried on space.

[slate spoke]

ah i'm jealous

whats your countdown build?

[lyric prism]

EP cc set w/ Imperial Dynasty and name backpack The Courier for perfect creeping death and bluescreen.

I like to sticky groups of things and watch them get confused while they burn.

banshee pulse and foam.

[slate spoke]

ah fun, just the 30 hazpro plus the 10 from watch?

[lyric prism]

yep

the only hard thing to get is the courier to roll hazpro and a good yellow of status effect or haste. its a blue roll packpack so getting hazpro is a usual role.

[rancid gulch]

can someone give me a one shot rifle build for legendary content?

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NNLiB-SZH-LChI9gE18q-PdYGqHac4Gep9UQVUtg0as/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.rwk7sa35vic3

one of these but with 1886.

[sour juniper]

hi friends. freshly level 30 and some questions. what should i be doing with junk gear? sell? deconstruct? extract stats? I don't want to just sell or deconstruct if i'm throwing away value

[kindred mango]

I would deconstruct till 40 then start extracting max rolls for your library

[loud narwhal]

Can all gear have mod slots, or only certain ones?

[sour juniper]

so there's not talents I can extract if i want them later?

[kindred mango]

Oh yeah good idea

[loud narwhal]

Need advice on the optimobility of this build I saw on reddit. Strikers vs this build.

Spec: Gunner
Weapon (preferred): Elmo or Pestilence
Skill: Crusader & Revive Hive
Mask: Coyoute (CHD)
Chest: Grupo w/ Obliterate (WD/CHC/CHD/CHD)
Holster: Palisade (Armor/CHC)
Backpack: Ceska w/ Unstoppable (WD/CHC/CHD/CHD)
Gloves: Contractor's (Petrov) (WD/CHD)
Kneepads: Fox's Prayer (Armor/CHD)

Goal is to aim for 60-55% Crit Hit Chance

[onyx sage]

this is just a comfy high end build, not going to beat striker but in the content where you're not getting enough stacks or damage doesn't matter then it works

[sour juniper]

another question: when a core attribute is armor, is that literally armor on top of whats already listed?

[loud narwhal]

So currently I have Striker w/ Grupo (obliterate) chest piece and Memento backpack. I am at 38% CHD & 39.4% CHC. Should I instead try to get full optomized Strikerinstead of worrying about another build?

[versed summit]

yep. so each piece has a base armor, and then the armor cores just add to that.

[onyx sage]

what content are you trying to do?

[loud narwhal]

I would like to do raids, but I've yet to find a clan to join, plus im about to have a kid so i'm gonna be afk for a hot minute.

So far i've just been grinding exotics and doing world events/projects

[kindred mango]

Ceska chest instead of Grupo would help some

[onyx sage]

i would make at least the basic striker (coyote with ceska obliterate chest), memento isn't going to be really useful in raids.

if you have even more time then i would make the standard DPS build with all high end. it's in the pinned spreadsheet in the Builds tab

[loud narwhal]

I tried looking at the Google Doc but just got confused

[onyx sage]

striker and standard DPS

[loud narwhal]

Try and copy this?

[onyx sage]

yes

[loud narwhal]

What is best way to get coyote mask, because i've been trying for about a week now

[onyx sage]

countdown with mask targeted

[loud narwhal]

That is what I have been doing :/j

[tulip gulch]

I wish there was a knock out system for exotics even though I feel that might be too easy for veteran players. I just came back after a couple of years and I was trying to get the bluescreen but got everything I had

[onyx sage]

you need to open exo caches more, it doesn't drop from targeted loot until you get the blueprint which is from getting one from exo cache first

[hexed steppe]

All those duplicates are good components, and you'll need a lot if you ever want to upgrade expertise

[subtle bluff]

You don't need coyotes. You can just use grupo while youn farm or passive farm everything.

[loud narwhal]

I've been using Petrov for LMG damage.... I have it has max CHC and a health mod, but 10% weapon damage too....so not bad for a temp piece

[tulip gulch]

TRUE!!!!

[thorny kernel]

Planning to make a Nego build with either Iron Lung or Bluescreen. Which of the two is the better pick? Also, should i stick to Coyote's for this or would something like Vile fit better?

Wait, i meant Ongoing Directive instead of Nego

[solar sable]

I'd use coyote's rather than vile
and the lmg selection is up to you tbh

[tulip gulch]

I have a question about leveling up a weapons expertise. Let’s say I have the right rolls on the weapons I want to upgrade. if I have the mats should I just level the weapons expertise to the highest I can level or should I spread the upgrading to gear as well ? For reference I’m lvl 9 expertise

[onyx sage]

@coral reef

use the big shield instead of the striker shield if you want here

and don't use m1a like i did here, use 1886 or a mmr

[peak meadow]

This photo is OLD

[onyx sage]

it's very old

[peak meadow]

Brother WHAT

[versed flame]

Well I like the m1 in this event),but it's weaker than 1886 yes

[peak meadow]

This photo is old enough that it has the shield

[onyx sage]

also 7k instead of 16k

[coral reef]

thank you kindly

[coral reef]

what are the backpack and chest talents?

[onyx sage]

vigilance, headhunter

[coral reef]

does it work with another magnum/handgun while I farm for the Regulus? guessing not really

I really want that build of handgun + enormous full body shield

[onyx sage]

use a regular magnum

you're only going to miss out on the aoe

[onyx sage]

watch this for inspiration: https://youtu.be/13ACWz_-reQ

from my uncle

[coral reef]

FUUUUU THAT GUN IS SO COOL

[onyx sage]

this is solo leg if you haven't noticed. it's that strong. it's probably the best answer you're looking for

[mint axle]

Why the best players are always the Japanese? 🇯🇵

[onyx sage]

he's korean...

[mint axle]

close enough ah ok

[coral reef]

yeah thats exactly what i want

lets farm that Regulus

[onyx sage]

just do IH tbh. you can either lfg in one of the other servers or i can ask the boys to see if they'd be down for an IH some time

[peak meadow]

The boys™

[solar sable]

you'll need at least 4 runs if I'm not mistaken

[coral reef]

yeah, i've been doing the other raid with my clan (just picked it cuz i loved the name) but that raid is for the eagle bearer, the one every kid desires

[solar sable]

tbh, I would've gotten Regulus three weeks ago but I missed two raid opportunities...

I regret not being home when they were running

[thorny kernel]

For a dodge city oneshot build, what non-exotic pistol would be best?

I'm thinking a 686 with Flatline and combine it with Achilles

[patent fossil]

Harvest if you can get it

[thorny kernel]

i scrapped one just minutes ago

Can it drop in pistol target loot?

[patent fossil]

Only from the loot goblin during seasonal events

[thorny kernel]

Frick

[tulip gulch]

Is it worth leveling a weapons expertise to highest level you can make it or should you also do your armor? Given you have the mats.

[thorny kernel]

Can the police 686 even have Flatline?

[urban latch]

yes

[fresh fox]

classic rng

[thorny kernel]

I've been crafting 686's now for like half an hour and not a single one had Flatline 🤣😭

[solar sable]

recalibrate it lol

[thorny kernel]

Here's the thing, to do that i first have to unlock it in my library lol

[solar sable]

oh god lmaooo

[thorny kernel]

That's why I'm trying to get a pistol with flatline lmao

[hollow lintel]

Hi i need a top healer build with the birdis quick fix Back Pack pls

[peak meadow]

Birdy's is broken atm

It doesn't grant overcharge consistently

[hexed steppe]

also, not the right spot to lfg

#lfg-playstation

[mossy reef]

anyone has any build for the reanimated event?

[mint axle]

I use determined for the green cloud area damage, I don't care about the hostages

[mossy reef]

thanks

[subtle bluff]

HF all HSD kard determine

Chainkiller and BP with vigil

[prime elbow]

This good? Just running regular stuff, nothing special

Dont have the Technician yet

[subtle bluff]

Soo many do this exact same build. It'll works it's slow at dps vs other ways.

[tulip granite]

any tips on 100 burn zeds objective?

i was going to use the fire pulse but remembered it was a global mod

[thorny kernel]

Is Mantis a good MMR for a hotshot build or is there something better? Like, is it worth it to try having a semi constant decoy uptime?

[solar sable]

It's fun to use ngl

might as well try it out

[thorny kernel]

I was trying to use Nemesis but the fact that you have to charge it and cant panic hipfire it made me dislike it

[subtle bluff]

Mantis is actually good dmg just need to hit your HS.

[rocky rain]

Is there a good build for a 1-shot shotgun?

[subtle bluff]

HH HF

[thorny kernel]

What?

[rocky rain]

Hunter Fury with Headhunter chest talent

[subtle bluff]

It's in the pinned message

[rocky rain]

And BP, and weapon talent?

[thorny kernel]

I would assume that that build might use HF chest and bp which have locked talents tied to the set bonus

[subtle bluff]

Never used HF Chest.

You can use the BP but pretty almost never use that either

[thorny kernel]

What gear should i look for aside from Gunslingers Holster for a pistol oneshot build?

[thorny kernel]

Maybe Striker and Punch Drunk?

Idk lol

[subtle bluff]

Same has shotgun

[slate spoke]

if you want to shoot from further away maybe some optimal range gear?

[subtle bluff]

That's going backwards

2 ways of doing pistol HH. HE version and a HF version

[thorny kernel]

I'll probably go right up the target's nose lol, probably gonna use a shield to do so

[lucid loom]

I’m I good with this build

Is this a good build

[cerulean smelt]

so what's the hidden 5th Virtuoso attribute?

[fallen comet]

Yet another bait?

[lucid loom]

Idk 🤣🤣

[lucid loom]

Am I good or naw?!?

[thorny kernel]

That's an Aegis, not a 5th virtuoso lmao

[peak meadow]

He has ninja bike

[cerulean smelt]

yeah no shit

[thorny kernel]

OH i missed that

[peak meadow]

Happens

[thorny kernel]

What does Virtuoso even do again

[cerulean smelt]

ranged kills increase weapon damage
think like 0-15, 15-25 and 25+?

[lucid loom]

So I don’t need the ninja backpack then?? Aight cool

[thorny kernel]

Tbh Ninjabike bp is kinda useless altogether. There are no set bonuses that make Ninjabike worth slotting over a backpack with an actual talent

[lucid loom]

Aight cool appreciate that, I got the other exotic backpack that comes with extra ammo (I forgot the name)

[cerulean smelt]

there's a build someone mentioned here or other server, tried it out and it's actaully fun especailly for htis Reanimated Global Event XD

[thorny kernel]

What does intermittently mean btw?

[thorny kernel]

You got me interested lol

[cerulean smelt]

no clue honestly, think the in game description says somethign different

[lucid loom]

Means right away

[thorny kernel]

No, that's immediately

[cerulean smelt]

wording wise might be every other kill between the 2 ranges increases your stack of the talent which in turn increase your weapon damage

[lucid loom]

in a way that does not happen regularly or continuously; in a way that stops and starts repeatedly or with periods in between

[cerulean smelt]

mask/gloves/holster Hotshot, Turmoil Knees, they had a Hadsburg chest with headhunter and ninja bag

[lucid loom]

Intermittently

[lucid loom]

Ok, ima still switch it out

[cerulean smelt]

i put it together and used Handbasket on it, pretty fun lol

[subtle bluff]

WTF am i reading here...

[cerulean smelt]

bleach your eyes? (> <)

[subtle bluff]

... I... why

[lucid loom]

The meaning for intermittently

[cerulean smelt]

lol no clue just someone mentioned the build on youtube. looked it up and was like huh?
only thing im missing for my build is the hadsburg chest, i got chainkiller

[subtle bluff]

This is the clip I use for NBB users.

Gave NBB build 50 more HSD and it still did less dmg.

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly thought the video was going to be a joke build considering turmoil knees in it

or it was going to be hotshot, mask, backpack, gloves, holster. chainkiller chest and turmoil

[thorny kernel]

I think turmoil is ceska?

[cerulean smelt]

yes

[thorny kernel]

Btw does Turmoils damage split only apply to weapons or skills too?

[cerulean smelt]

just weapon

[lucid loom]

So if do keep the ninja BP then I should have marksmen build then?

[thorny kernel]

Does Turmoil split signature weapon damage?

[cerulean smelt]

no clue i don't even use signature weapons

[thorny kernel]

Okay I'll just try it later when I'm home

because if it does I'll make a turmoil/TotS monstrosity with the Sharpshooter later lol

[cerulean smelt]

if anything, maybe the minigun and tac 50 will?

[thorny kernel]

I was playing around with TotS last night and while not the most effective kind of build it was still a lot of fun

[cerulean smelt]

you'll probably love it next season (> <)

[thorny kernel]

Oh? What's gonna happen to it?

[subtle bluff]

Did you not watch the clip I posted showing that NBB nerf any build.

[brittle bloom]

It's way too early in the morning for me to be reading all this. Like this has to be bait right

[lucid loom]

Yea I saw it and?!? 😒

[lucid loom]

So

[somber yarrow]

so guys any pve build for heroic? I want dps and survive a little more, currrently im using 4 strike pieces with blue cores and rest critical hit chance, one improvised holster with critical hit damage, critical hit chance and critical chance, memento and st elmos with a random light machine gun, with shield and reviver, my current stats are 51.9% critical hit chance and 117% critical hit damage

[versed flame]

and the vest?

[somber yarrow]

striker

[peak meadow]

You don't need Striker chest unless it's Incursion or Legendary

[versed flame]

it's hard to get 200 stacks in the world.

the vest is a cheshka, a better option

[somber yarrow]

and forthe holster? should i keep the improved holster?

[peak meadow]

Improvised gear is very rarely worth it if it's not for a PFE build

[somber yarrow]

what pfe means? sorry

[versed flame]

PVE

[peak meadow]

No, Protection from Elites

[sharp rivet]

Only started playing properly like a week or so ago, hows the build coming? (wip)

[peak meadow]

The chest talent could be changed to Obliterate or Glass Cannon

The chameleon has range issues so it can be hard to play long distance engagements

[somber yarrow]

can you tell me a good alternative? cheskha vest with what attribute and talent?

[peak meadow]

This is the basic Striker's setup

If you're going to run all blue striker's, consider running protection from elite mods

It'll provide you some extra survivability from elites while you focus on the weaker enemies

[sharp rivet]

So....St Elmo then instead?

[peak meadow]

That's the boring answer

[sharp rivet]

Alts?

[peak meadow]

You can use any high RPM AR with decent mod selection

But if you're lacking crit stats, Elmo's is there for you

[sharp rivet]

Cause if you say Lexington, I aint got it cause I've only been playing properly like a week and a half lol

[peak meadow]

With its 15% crit chance and crit damage mods

[thorny kernel]

I'm pretty sure they're planning to bring it back tho

What i personally love to use with Striker is Bullet King and Pestilence

Keep in mind that they cannot be used with the Crusader as they're LMGs

[spice pier]

guys is 3.2M damage per bullet possible with this build?

[thorny kernel]

I'm no expert but i highly doubt it

[versed flame]

Maybe on a global event?

[spice pier]

right that makes sense with reanimated now

[versed flame]

I'm currently in the game on a rifle build and I'm up to 80 million.
alas, that is until tuesday))))

[peak meadow]

Think he means DPS

[wild pond]

Whats the best way to try and get strikers at the moment?
Or is it random at the moment?

[loud pine]

countdown targeted loot

[wild pond]

Thanks :D

[loud pine]

my pleasure, run it on challenging and youll be swimming in strikers

[wild pond]

Alright, lets see how long it takes with minimal dmg hahaha

[wild pond]

Only been getting yellows, that normal? 😅

[loud pine]

have you changed your targeted loot to strikers? you change it on the map not sure what the keybind is for PC

[wild pond]

Ill check, didnt know i had to change anything hahaha

[wild pond]

Thanks

[rocky rain]

Anyone tried Heartbreaker with HH/Determined (pistol)?

[versed flame]

Why?

[rocky rain]

Wonder whether it provides good bonus armor from HB consistently

Most HH based sets are more focus on Snipers but I want a pistol build with good survivability

And not based on Memento

[versed flame]

Hunter-set

[jaunty igloo]

I dont get why people hate on ninjabike. Like, sure you're not gonna make the most optimal raid builds with it but it is a really useful exotic to make more well rounded general gameplay builds imo.

[versed flame]

Well, for some people, losing talent in a backpack is a problem.

Or they mold nonsense by cramming a lot of stuff into the bild))))))

[peak meadow]

It's really easy to make a bad build when you don't have a backpack talent

[versed flame]

eup!!

There's an opinion that this backpack is more profitable for pvp.🤷‍♂️

[wild pond]

Okay, i must be doing something wrong
Cause i changed it, but still only yellows

[versed flame]

There's no green stuff in the loot at all??

[wild pond]

Nope, just materials
No green loot at all

[jaunty igloo]

I get that, but I think there are some use cases where it can be as or more beneficial than a backpack talent. I use a backfire, hunters fury and 2 piece sokolov with it and it gives me exactly 60% chc without even having chc on my chest. Which is nice imo

[versed flame]

You set the target loot, hit remember, and still zero? And in the summit?

[hazy steeple]

You've sacrificed a Backpack Talent so you don't have to roll attributes to CHC?

[inner rock]

just use striker :kapp

[jaunty igloo]

well it wouldnt get to 60 if i did. it would be 58

[wild pond]

Summit?
Sorry just got back to the game, so idk everything yet hahaha

[versed flame]

Build on exotic pp? Yes!)
I have an even weirder build this))))

[hazy steeple]

@jaunty igloo You're right, that 2% CHC is totally worth kneecapping your build.
hey, wanna buy some snake oil I'm selling?

[jaunty igloo]

kneecapping? lol

most backpack talents are so niche

[hazy steeple]

You should quit whilst you're behind.

[versed flame]

But it's bullshit! But fun bullshit)

[hazy steeple]

Removing a major Talent source on your build is making is significantly worse, even throwing Memento on there would do better, and that has the same 3 cores benefit, but has an actually useful Talent.

Whether or not you spec into HazPro is up for debate with the recent buffs to Backfire, but you still need to be able to actually kill stuff with it.

[versed flame]

The building at the top, where the target loot is also selected.

[jaunty igloo]

I can...

[peak meadow]

I'll be honest with you, Rivens, as long as he isn't doing it in my legendary matchmaking, I'm sure his build his fine for the content he's playing at.

[hazy steeple]

Normal, by the look of it.

[jaunty igloo]

i never said i'd use it in legendary

[peak meadow]

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.

[wild pond]

Ill try it
Thanks

[jaunty igloo]

its a fun build for general missions and stuff which is what i said in the beginning lol

[peak meadow]

I think we get caught up too much in what's optimal that we min max the fun out of the game sometimes.

That said, I'm of the opinion that it's worse than just running a Memento for solo play

[magic pilot]

https://youtu.be/3CZ4Vma-P9E?si=csr-wPBfI3MjxAOD

Fortunately Ikia has a video on this exact topic

[jaunty igloo]

See, I've used it with memento but i prefer it with ninjabike

[magic pilot]

That being said, backfire can be run easily without Hazpro as long as you are in an enemy dense area

[hazy steeple]

The channel being called "build advice" will inevitably, give advice about builds.

[jaunty igloo]

also whats hazpro?

[magic pilot]

This is just bad

[jaunty igloo]

I appreciate your opinion, but it works for me

[magic pilot]

It will work for you, but people will probably kick you in group content.

[peak meadow]

I'm on Lulu's side but I still leave when I see similar builds

[jaunty igloo]

once again i never said i use it in group content

[bright raptor]

I view it as more damage for me

which I suspect inevitably results in people posting like this here and especially on Reddit because they got carried and now think it's viable

[jaunty igloo]

i usually use striker in group stuff

for the sole purpose of appeasing the sweats lol

[peak meadow]

Consider me appeased

[jaunty igloo]

tbf the build is basically identical to my striker build dps wise anyway because it uses backfire

but i wouldnt bring it to group stuff because it requires me to get the kills, so it would be inconsistent

[wild pond]

Now im getting some, thanks

[versed flame]

Maybe there was a bug, then try the countdown again.

[wild pond]

Alrighty

[frosty tangle]

Trying to get a starter heal build for raids going is this a good start at all

[versed flame]

Is that a medic?

[frosty tangle]

Yes

[wild pond]

Bunch of set gear now

[versed flame]

I know this option, I may be corrected, is for raids.

By the way, the new exotic backpack, probably good for medic, but need the opinion of experienced players in raid builds.

[peak meadow]

It doesn't work as intended

[versed flame]

🤔 Well, that's too bad.

[frosty tangle]

Yes

[versed summit]

yeah this is basically what you want, but The Setup is better even if you can't get repair yellow coreskill/skill haste.

[thorny kernel]

Is this a decent Striker?

[versed summit]

decent, just need to get the correct roles rolls on some of those pieces.

[onyx sage]

roles, point and laugh

[versed summit]

aw shucks

bummer

jeez

i died

[versed flame]

A bit of a strange choice of weapons, but if you are comfortable with it, it's okay.
and ideally a vest with different characteristics.

[frosty tangle]

Why full future?

[versed summit]

because it gives team buff and healing buff

[tulip granite]

im guessing not but does coyote's mask stak with others who also use it in the 4 man team?

[cerulean smelt]

it does as long as 3 of you hit from the 3 different ranges

[tulip granite]

ah a see

[peak meadow]

Pointing_at_viewer laughing

@onyx sage

[onyx sage]

umm it's :index_pointing_at_the_viewer:

[peak meadow]

Nerd

[subtle bluff]

@frosty tangle

[hasty sluice]

Does perfect opp make that much of a difference?

I forgot the %

[subtle bluff]

Yes 10% to 15% global amp dmg is big

[hasty sluice]

Oh it's a 5% diff

I should update my FI at somepoint then.

[devout iris]

so what do i bneed if i wanna do a striker backfire build?

[solar sable]

just stick backfire instead of Elmo's and... you're good to go

[devout iris]

well was maybe doing a dps smg build here

[solar sable]

the regular setup works just as fine as it does with Elmo's or any other weapon

[devout iris]

well it either use HF on backfire or just any other smg that is exotic or basic

[hexed steppe]

sounds like you already have it figured out

[devout iris]

i mean what i did is just slap my striker pieces and put a sokolov chest piece with obliterate and hunter's memento along with lady death cause the speedy coyote has arrived in D.C

[onyx sage]

don't get what the question is here then

then just do that unless you have problems with it

[devout iris]

also is hunter'e memento better or is the exodus gloves in a red striker build

[hazy steeple]

Since it's been out, I've never once heard it referred to as "Hunters Memento".

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say it's all personal preference

[devout iris]

sorry i meant memento

[cerulean smelt]

same here, only thing comes to mind they saying hunter's memento is hunter's fury + memento

[devout iris]

cause i wanted to pull out some other exotic smgs from my closet that being the stash and see if they do well this season with it's 2 days left till the new one

cause i had the backfire and lady death picking up moth balls in the stash here

and so is the chatterbox

[cerulean smelt]

you know they look better on the wall right? (> <)

[devout iris]

yeah but i wanna see if they still perfom well with how little days we have with kelso's season with the modifier's

cause this season's active modifier's are WAY better than theo's last season active modifier's

[cerulean smelt]

that range stuff was pretty annoying
this one was fun
next might be rather intersting. never really understood it much aside they wanted to give Div 1 Nostolgia

[devout iris]

yeah, but gotta have to find a way to buy the dlc anyway cause im broke here and might have to avoid the upcoming video's showing the brooklyn dlc

till i have the money

[cerulean smelt]

dlc won't be needed for next season

[devout iris]

oh thank god, but yeah gotta make a wheel of names and see which smg shall i use out of the 5 exotic smg's we got here

and whoever last's i might use and make a HF build with it

[cerulean smelt]

why can't you do that and just try each of them in it and see what feels good to you?

[devout iris]

well that was my plan B here, and looks like the chatterbox won the wheel of names

i mean mostly of the shotgun build's use HF here

[cerulean smelt]

uh shot gun, you're getting in peoples faces right?

[devout iris]

usually just CQC here with the shotgun, depending which type of shotty your running

that is if your also running SMG as secondary

to which your getting both buff's from HF in one way

[bright raptor]

CQC with shield for the initial damage trade

[devout iris]

yeah, that is if your running the oxpecker with HF

[cerulean smelt]

nope just in general
that build has always been a striker/crusader shield build far as i remember

[devout iris]

i mean so is the ballistic shield if your running firewall class with striker

i can see why, coming from someone who uses striker with exodus gloves here

[cerulean smelt]

shotguns i don't think is going to be any better for legendary runs

[devout iris]

yeah, their mostly good till heroic difficulty

cause above that difficulty it's either your running with an automatic gun or just get shredded like a wet paper towel

[peak meadow]

Obligatory shotgun headhunter build post

[cerulean smelt]

nice nice

question is, think they can figure out the build? (> <)

[cerulean smelt]

you going to fine tune that in 4ish months?

[peak meadow]

No I'm going to keep posting the same clip I've been posting for a year now

[cerulean smelt]

figured you'd be like yeah, add tinkerer's streamline + pummel XD

[devout iris]

from what i see it's a pump action shotgun with pummel on it and vigilance and headhunter?

[cerulean smelt]

HHF

[peak meadow]

Dude uses Brazen now IIRC

[cerulean smelt]

icon for pummel in the clip, but i could see brazen

[peak meadow]

Uses an unscoped M700 for ranged kills now too

[devout iris]

looks more like he uses the reflex sight here

[peak meadow]

That has nothing to do with my last message unless I am tripping.

[cerulean smelt]

panther might be thinking the reflex sight is a scope of sorts

[devout iris]

well you said an unscoped M700 but it looks like that M870 has the reflex sight scope on it

[peak meadow]

Yeah but I'm not talking about the M870 in his hand

I'm talking about the M700 on his new build

[devout iris]

OH

[cerulean smelt]

is that just to trigger the headhunter?

[devout iris]

could be

[peak meadow]

Let me pull up a more recent clip

https://youtu.be/MRNvMSV_NgA?si=vMKQCjdqMUJySw-e

[dreamy valve]

Don’t use zoom scope on sniper rifles

[cerulean smelt]

i had to think on it, was thinking m700 was a shotgun model, then thought hard and was like wait MMR doh!

[peak meadow]

He does use a reflex

But I also do not count that as having a scope tbh since no variable zoom

[devout iris]

that whole action feels like as if john wick entered the div 2 universe and is ready to clear out the whole zoo

[dreamy valve]

Use the digital scope on a shotgun

[subtle bluff]

His running White Death.

[peak meadow]

Man I'm batting 0

[devout iris]

no, that's the M700 right there or it's a SR-1

[peak meadow]

Let's ask the dude himself

[cerulean smelt]

diens a beast!

[peak meadow]

@onyx sage is it the M700 or white death on your most recent build

[devout iris]

but my money's on that he has an SR-1 sniper as his secondary

[onyx sage]

white death

sr-1 was previous patch

[devout iris]

damn, and i thought it was the SR-1

[onyx sage]

it got nerfed too much to run currently

[peak meadow]

Tbf that video is like 11 months old

[cerulean smelt]

method probably the same still though?

[devout iris]

true

[peak meadow]

Probably

[devout iris]

same although with modifier's included

[peak meadow]

Real talk, I'm not sure how you're supposed to hit these shots on Xbox

[devout iris]

great, now whenever i pull up my HF build with scorpio, it crashes my game

and now i can't scroll to it and remove it cause i saved the skin onto my build

fuuuuu

[cerulean smelt]

told you have fun trying to get it back to a working fashion
there is a way i just don't know the time frame in doing so will work

[devout iris]

well i managed to remove it

but now i can't trsut a exotic weapon skin here cause what if it does the same with this one? or worse?

[prisma flint]

I need build advice, what can I use with the future initiative and is future initiative any good anymore?

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

Um I just posted both a few pages up.

[cerulean smelt]

goto Future Initiative is mask,chest, holster, knees, BTSU gloves and setup backpack (named uzina)

oh there we go
#td2-build-advice message

[subtle bluff]

Ty mobile sucks to get stuff.

[prisma flint]

ohhhhh I want the best support I can make lol

[cerulean smelt]

what's wrong with it?

[prisma flint]

lol nothing is wrong with it I just haven't played in a while and I uhh saw new things and I thought maybe that they changed the sets up 😝

and that maybe it's not as good as ongoing set or true patriot

[peak meadow]

True Patriot is in the trash can.

[prisma flint]

oh no, lol. Really I thought it was really good with a team for the red white and blue😶

[cerulean smelt]

OD gives bullets which doesn't touch our ammo

[prisma flint]

so it is buggy......got it^^ and I say a new set called shiny monkey I think that's the name of it, but anyway it looks good any ideas about it?

[peak meadow]

Named backpack is good with everyday carrier

[cerulean smelt]

think 2 shiny monkey was 5% skill efficiency or something?

huh, i might have to try and rebuild that loadout 🤔

[prisma flint]

hammer it has 55% repair skils witch look awesome to me^^

ugh I meant it omg my bad I'm sorry lol

[cerulean smelt]

tried to do a 3 empress, 2 monkey with memento. didn't do too well but i went with skill haste/damage on it

[devout iris]

is lullaby worth using in HF?

[cerulean smelt]

if i took what local deck showed me with chc/chd skill tiers on 5 pieces might be decent and capacitor

[cerulean smelt]

personally i'd say no even if you turned it into Sandman or whatever that melee non elite talent it was turned into

[devout iris]

i mean the reason i used it was cause it doe like a lot of damage

and that lullaby and sweet dreams have the same talent from what i know

[prisma flint]

Ah I'm new here calm down with your acronyms. Lol, anyways I'm off to mix up the sets kk have fun as always😋

[subtle bluff]

FI is still the best overall support.

[hasty sluice]

Why not use Thorn? Still a Spas but with brazen.

[open aspen]

Is like there build advice for post 30 newbies or should I just ask here

[devout iris]

i mean i only used it caused the lullaby looked cool and it matched the type of design i wanted here

[hexed steppe]

it wont matter much what you use for a build till after 40. just keep equiping the best you can get till then. after that, the pin in this channel has a spreadsheet with a ton of builds

[hasty sluice]

Quite literally use anything that is red with a higher level than what you have now.

[cerulean smelt]

kind of hard considering they all spout the same stuff but differently

[peak meadow]

There I am, look!

[rancid gulch]

if i’m at the 60% crit chance cap will coyotes mask 25% put me at 85 or just stay at 60?

[solar sable]

Limit is 60 and nothing will change that

[thorny kernel]

Okay i made a pistol oneshot build, just gotta replace some attributes and then optimize i guess

[thorny kernel]

Coyote's is THE best in slot for a Striker's build, that's why people commonly use the Crusader shield to close distances

I can't think of a good alternative right now

[solar sable]

Advice: Stop wasting materials on body gear Expertise.

The bonus it gives makes you upgrade from a commercial sponge to a branded sponge (in terms of simplicity)

[thorny kernel]

LOL

[gray badger]

made this bleed build that ive been messing with over the last few days. originally had backfire but pesti hits better. stats are 43% crit chance, 104% crit dmg with room for improvement in both. any blues are armor/ armor regen and that one yellow is status effects i wanna get rid of it. looking for advice on what can be changed to get better damage/ survivability out of this build

[wild pond]

Whats a good replacement for the Lexington AR?
Cause i dont have it 😅

[solar sable]

police m4

[wild pond]

Alright, thanks

What talents etc am i looking for?
Forgot to ask hahaha

[magic pilot]

Killer or measured

[wild pond]

Thanks :D

[hexed steppe]

grupo

[cerulean smelt]

or wait 4ish months and get the new exotic mask and grab 2 weapons of the same type and pick 2 talents for it (> <)

[inner rock]

fenris?

[shy willow]

You get about 1 blue core worth of armour after max expertising everything and draining hundreds of components

[subtle bluff]

grupo, exo glove or dch with a orbit.

[subtle bluff]

This build is a mess. First off pesti tick isn't a status effect. The chest isn't worth it.
Go to the pin messages and look at the build in there has a base.

[frigid lily]

what probably the best overall build to target farm summit on legendary?

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[tender wren]

What’s the preferred solo build in the year 2025 CE

[tulip charm]

Any dps build with memento

[tender wren]

Any preferred weapons? I have pestilence as my primary

[tulip charm]

Any tbh

[tender wren]

I have to farm for memento then

[frigid lily]

i ran summit legendary with heartbreaker/momento, crit. is doable, just the dang drones are a monster to deal with

[tulip charm]

Determined Headhunter

[hexed steppe]

mortar, explosive skill setup...
aka: Mortar Supremacy

very strong in the right hands

[brisk crescent]

For named item farming, its the best to go with slot in targeted loot? and not brand?

[solar sable]

depends on brand

[brisk crescent]

Chainkiller for example

[hexed steppe]

always go with the brand if farming named

[thorny kernel]

Yep

for Chainkiller for example you should farm.... I think it was Walker&Harris?

[strong cave]

You COULD go fenris, if and only if your 3 other teammates are possibly running coyote mask. Everyone says coyote is best in slot there due to 1 major factor of the talent: in close range you get a whopping 25% CHD (last I recall). I typically only ditched my coyote mask when I had 3 other people within my raids run their coyote masks. Allowed me for a tiny bit more weapon damage overall but I'd sacrifice tons of CHD at close range. Hence, I played mid-long range while staying within the viable range to prevent damage drop off

That setup is optimal as it is anyways. Don't change it 🤙 IF IT AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT!

[subtle bluff]

Welcome back.

[strong cave]

I've been away for quite a while. But feels nice to be welcomed back 🤗

I graduate here soon from culinary 👀 gonna have a ton of free time now. Still need to run incursion 😂

[subtle bluff]

Have you caught up for what’s going on in a few days?

[cerulean smelt]

silence, hopefully they're looking up what's going on or an indication of yes i do know what's going on XD

[onyx sage]

have you uninstalled your game because you don't have lexington yet?

[strong cave]

My good fellow, I'll have you know I have 2 Lexington's. How many do you have?

[onyx sage]

i have ZERO lexingtons, long time players like me deserve to have them, i played since year 1 but stopped for 5 years, i support this game from very beginning

[strong cave]

I have been keeping track of the games updates by following rogue gold, and tuxedo bandito. With a little bit of KVD sprinkle in here and there but I take his information with multiple bottles and grains of salt

[onyx sage]

i just reached my 30k shd from kenly

[strong cave]

That is very true but you know how this game likes to run very exclusive rewards so if you miss your login chance that's kind of on you. You had the choice to come back and you chose not to. It's not to sound mean, it's just how it is with this game. They do it to get their player numbers back and then when people come in and get the rewards and they get their time they need, they all leave

30k hell yeah 🔥🔥 I'll be at 15k at some point. I'm 14.1k rn

[onyx sage]

||i'm mocking other players who use this reasoning btw, players legit uninstall over not having lexington||

[strong cave]

I have also seen players literally pay thousands of dollars on the rewards track just to have a .5% chance at getting raid exotics

[onyx sage]

yeah i've seen people cry over not being able to gamble

but like uninstalling over lexington is wild

you probably missed the wave of people just coming in and complaining about not getting it

[strong cave]

The devs themselves have confirmed that it may come back in the loop pool. The question is, is it going to be a limited time thing? Or is it going to be a guaranteed thing that we can have a set way to farm for it? In my opinion I think that the Lexington should be a Legendary obtained item

[strong cave]

No, I was definitely here for that wave. The amount of comments that I would read here in the server were absolutely laughable. The eagle bearer does the amount and damage, the famas is literally right under the lexington. If I'm not mistaken, the g36 and the p416 both hit for similar numbers. They both fired about the same rate. They are basically the same AR with slightly less damage but it's still optimal. The problem with this game is everybody wants to be number one elitist and have the best gear, which I get, but sometimes you can't always have what you want

[onyx sage]

yeah it's just such a minor thing to gripe about

but FOMO is strong ig

[peak meadow]

Legendary Zoo item

[onyx sage]

Massive make it possible

[hasty sluice]

Ok turmoil + head hunter + global event headshot boost is very funny.

[strong cave]

Currently right now my thoughts with the new changes that are going to be coming, I'm fairly pissed that they're removing the watch mule system. A lot of us high shd level players are being spit on in the face. However, they did confirm that they are tweaking the resource point values and they have made it the exact same as what our current system is in terms of the rewards. All we have to do is just grind our asses off for more xp. The problem with that is the only way to guarantee a level, is to play strongholds or to play control points with all directives on. Both of those can take some time, depending on what you do. In my opinion, the level cap needs to be at 500kxp. Each activity should at least guarantee you one level. Now, they should have the directives at another 100K xp, and if I'm not mistaken you can have up to five directives in the open world. If you run all five directives, and you're playing on heroic, you should get two levels per activity not just one. This is the offset the balance between having a grind levels and having to spend your shd points. So far we only know that they're tweaking the values of the payouts for the resource points, but we have heard absolutely nothing in terms of how the leveling system is now going to work after the watch change. I find it difficult to get levels if I'm not mindlessly doing control points or playing on a ton of directives. The game gets very stale fast

[hasty sluice]

Seeing some poor sap get with a random tick of 68mill damage after headshotting an unrelated guy is so funny.

[strong cave]

I am excited for the dlc, but as you all know with how Ubisoft runs their live service games and how these updates go, I'm worried about what the hell is going to be broken as opposed to what's going to be brand new

[peak meadow]

Me, I'm content with 660K EXP per legendary mission

[strong cave]

On what diff tho

[hasty sluice]

Leg

🤨

[peak meadow]

What do you mean, it's right there in the post

[strong cave]

I just woke up gimme time 😭😭

[peak meadow]

I haven't yet slept

[strong cave]

660k XP for leg? That's not worth it at all. How many dir?

I can get 700k+ in 5m with a hotshot build running CPs

[peak meadow]

I'm level 5555 playing nothing but Legendary, what a joyous time.

[strong cave]

I feel sorry for you

[hasty sluice]

Truth be told me and a friend spent about 2 1/5 hours trying to two man tidal basin. We got half way and failed

[peak meadow]

Find me when I get off work, I will drag you.

[hasty sluice]

Nah we were just messing around. Though my "group" needs to get better at tackling harder content

I was running head hunter he was running skill proxy

[peak meadow]

Average Player and I just did Tidal Basin five times in a row

[strong cave]

I would have told that friend to put on a Striker Build or the Hot shot build or just flat out go back to challenging difficulty

[peak meadow]

I could do it a sixth time

[onyx sage]

i don't want no crit hit chance crit hit damage bill i don't want no meta

i am the meta

[hasty sluice]

I believe realistically we have builds capable of doing it we just kind kept fumbling.

[peak meadow]

There's no wipes allowed when I'm there

[onyx sage]

i would get up and run again with you guys but i am dead tired

[hasty sluice]

For leg should I get off being lazy and make a hotshot vs raw hs?

[onyx sage]

also i'm still 16k and done 0 kenly yet

[peak meadow]

I haven't done anything but legendary since I was 900

My SHD is the opposite of inflated

[strong cave]

I've played a few Legendary. Tried master. Laughed at how annoying it was compared to Legendary

[onyx sage]

you can make hotshot, just depends on which encounter where it's either preferred or discouraged

[strong cave]

Hotshot over any normal HS build anyway

[hasty sluice]

I think thats another thing. We don't know what to use when and default to old reliable

[hasty sluice]

Next build I'll make then

[peak meadow]

I think the only difficult sections in Tidal are sections five and six

Because if your DPS section doesn't kill the revivers in five, you don't get to pass

And if you get pushed too hard in six, you have no cover

[strong cave]

What's the changes of project resolve and the addition of gear systems, a lot of the gear sets are now meta in terms of outputting the most damage. You can still run high-end setups, but no matter how you try to argue it Striker will always out DPS any build in the game

Same with the current hotshot build

[hasty sluice]

We have issues with part 2 due to fun drone spam and nades

[peak meadow]

That's the first filter

If I had to guess, you got stuck at the entrance while a reviver picked everyone up that you were killing

[hasty sluice]

Nah we just sometimes get an unfortunate combo of drone to airburst

[onyx sage]

use tall cover if you aren't btw

they have to see your hitbox to trigger their drones and nades

[hasty sluice]

If it isn't a wall I'm not using it

[peak meadow]

Ru, pull up that video

[onyx sage]

like i play by the tractor for stage 2, but the 2 small walls behind them you can use too

tractor is ideal cuz you can camp the top right spawn and the rear helis

[hasty sluice]

Any who turmoil funny

[onyx sage]

this is basically how to peek everywhere ^

[peak meadow]

FunPolice?!

[hasty sluice]

Amazing ai

[tulip charm]

Look at this guy abusing 3rd person pov

Noob

[peak meadow]

I'm for real, I will carry you if you wait like three hours

Or rather, help you carry yourselves

[onyx sage]

it's the exact same situation against the 4 hunters in kelso master, they died the exact same way

[hasty sluice]

Don't need a carry its ight. We have done every legendary.

[peak meadow]

Dog bless

[hasty sluice]

@tulip charm Can't wait to get alphabridge but a mask exotic

[tulip charm]

😭

[onyx sage]

I'm waiting for streamline

gonna test it in zoo solo

[tulip charm]

Did they even announce the numbers for it?

Or we have to wait monday

[onyx sage]

nope but i can hope it's better than behind you

[hasty sluice]

We got final mesasure but a backpack too.

Streamline?

[onyx sage]

weapon talent, increase damage if no skills on cooldown

[hasty sluice]

Wack

[tulip charm]

This guy doesn’t know

😂

[onyx sage]

in PTS, it gave 80% weapon damage.

EIGHTY.

[hasty sluice]

I have not read the pts notes yet

[tulip charm]

Tbh 80% is a bit low

[onyx sage]

yeah should make it 100

[hasty sluice]

All I know is I'm making pahkan with over 100% bonus mag

Bullet king 2

[tulip charm]

Idk why they chose that gun over mdr

[peak meadow]

I was told that I need to use Smart Cover for Average Player

[hasty sluice]

Side note. It saddens me that double barrels can't get 3 shells

How dare massive think ahead and hard code it

[tulip charm]

Ru are you gonna be our personal smart cover?

[peak meadow]

Have you seen my new build

[tulip charm]

No

[peak meadow]

It's the infinite revive build but now with chem launcher

[hasty sluice]

Smart cover artificer

Peak build

[peak meadow]

I'm torn

[tulip charm]

Show

[peak meadow]

Because due to the chem launcher, revives are down at least 40%

[tulip charm]

Wait what does energizer do

[onyx sage]

use medkit = +1 skill tier for some duration i forgor, if at st6 oc

[hasty sluice]

Wait

[tulip charm]

Oh

Ru is cooking

[peak meadow]

Ten second cooldown on my reviver hive

When I'm OC'd

[hasty sluice]

Everyday carry + energize is some buffoonery

[tulip charm]

Dien when are you gonna cook like ru

[peak meadow]

Basically every 45 seconds, I get two revive hive charges

[hasty sluice]

Whats on chill out?

[peak meadow]

Double PFE

[tulip charm]

13%?

[onyx sage]

i cook strats

[peak meadow]

Dien is there to kill things

[onyx sage]

have always been

[tulip charm]

Fair

[peak meadow]

How he does it is up to him

[hasty sluice]

I might steal thing build for a somebody in my group that seems to forget the game is a "cover shooter"

[peak meadow]

It's a little janky to play

You need to drop your hive and pick it up to benefit from the cooldown reduction

[hasty sluice]

Doesn't seem that confusing

[peak meadow]

Well

[hasty sluice]

Hive is always wacky

[peak meadow]

You also need to swap to your pistol constantly

And in the case of Dien being on your team, you need to know when to overcharge from BTSU or not

[hasty sluice]

Btsu for decoy if issues. If engen is on cooldown and a rez is needed.

[peak meadow]

Fun fact, if you go down and your hive picks you up, you can quickly break it to overcharge and restore 3 charges over 20 seconds + arm time

[hasty sluice]

Yeee

[peak meadow]

So effectively you have 11 revive hive charges

[hasty sluice]

My fave tech if I down when playing FI

[peak meadow]

Outside of that, it's not that complicated to play

[hasty sluice]

It can't be worse than rotating sledgehammer, my chem, hive, & Scorpio.

[peak meadow]

It's slightly more janky because of the dropping and picking up

[hasty sluice]

Due to the kard giving 1 tech

Correct?

[peak meadow]

No, it's due to the way overcharge applies to the hive

You have to overcharge, drop the hive and then pick it up again to benefit from the cooldown reduction

It's kinda ass

You're stuck in place doing that weird shuffling

[hasty sluice]

I'll have to mess with it

To do list.
Make hotshot
Mess with revive bot build
Make a bad shotgun build with provicator

[peak meadow]

It's a lot of fun

Because your teammate might be bad at the game but ten revives is enough for them to accomplish something worthwhile

[hasty sluice]

Id rather revive them than play shoot the spastic dude with a Chem.

[peak meadow]

Well... The new build does both

[hasty sluice]

Either way I'll make a trio of support builds

FI
Gold heal
Revive maxing

Having heal orb + drone massively juiced repair % is fun

Go. Do crime

[small light]

doing a striker build which ar should i use

[peak meadow]

Any high RPM AR is fine

[small light]

well idk if i should use eagle bearer or st elmos

[peak meadow]

Elmo's probably

[small light]

thanks

[tender wren]

Thank you

[candid talon]

Is ACR same as ACR SS?

[versed summit]

No. ACR/ACR-E are assault rifles. The ACR SS is just a rifle.

[bright raptor]

As a rifle, the ACR SS does a bit more damage per shot but fires more slowly and recoils much harder

[hazy steeple]

The main difference is that they're entirely different weapon types.
Yes, the fact that we have Marksman Rifle, Assault Rifle, and just plain Rifle is incredibly confusing.

[candid talon]

I see a lot of people going crazy for Rifles with current "modifiers"

[hazy steeple]

Rifles are very accurate to hit single shots, at least some of the modifiers reward precision.
Plus: Determined exists.

[candid talon]

"50 MAG higher damage and I shoot faster than an AR?! Sign me in!" Then weapons go borderline crap after the event

[hazy steeple]

You're referring to the Global Event, not Modifiers.

Reanimated (the active Global Event) does give a lot of power to headshots, but anything that was super strong with it is still strong without it, mostly due to a certain Talent.

[candid talon]

I'm talking about the seasonal overdrive stuff

[thorny kernel]

Tbh I've played this game for almost 400 hours and i have yet to see an ACR or ACR-E

[hazy steeple]

Likely they've just been lumped in with other loot.
With the semi-recent buffs to underpowered guns: you can use pretty much anything and still do "fine" in Heroic, it just depends on your build.
@candid talon Determined knows no Modifiers.

[rocky rain]

I burn reanimated enemies with the specialization weapon but that doesn’t count. Why and how?

[cerulean smelt]

probably because you got to kill them without headshots. let them come back to life then burn them

[rocky rain]

I did after they come back (turn green). Works only rarely

[frigid lily]

what is probably the best build to do legendary farm level 10? doing striker combo with 46% less from elites. too easy to die, did tank with same % less from elites, can live but run out of bullets before i clear the boss. any tips or favorite build?

[versed flame]

What's the defense for? You're reducing the damage

[fair dragon]

So PfE isn't very effective in situations where there are not a lot of elites, as Normal and Veteran enemies will still hurt you just as much as without PfE mods.

[frigid lily]

so just pull all damage, armor regen, what do most use?

[versed flame]

damage

Again, do you play solo, or do you play in a band, usually?
get a medic or a medic on a drone
If it's hard to play with damage

[pastel basin]

What does skill efficiency do?

[rocky rain]

Do you anything extra for doing all Reanimated challenges?

[versed flame]

I didn't quite understand the question

[rocky rain]

There are a number of challenges per day (4). Is there a bonus doing them all?

I mean the current ‘event’

[onyx sage]

not really. getting shd levels gets you stars just as easily, and some challenges take even more time to do that it's not worth it so most just farm levels instead.

[cerulean smelt]

Skill Haste, Skill Damage, Skill Duration, Skill Health feel like i'm missing some but you probably get the diea from those 4?

[light grove]

Skill Repair and status effect are the ones not listed.

[pastel basin]

Oh so it’s like the percentage amount that it says around all of those 4, for example, skill efficiency says it’s at 9% and all of those are at 9% as well?

[cerulean smelt]

Yeah like sky fire said the other 2 stats as well so 6 skill stats

[light grove]

Yeah, so 1% efficiency is 1% of each of those stats.

[jaunty igloo]

say if your at 56% crit chance meaning another crit chance mod would lose a bit of value, would it be more worth it to use a crit damage mod or just max the crit chance anyway?

[strong cave]

If you're not critting, you're not doing damage

Get as near as you can. If running coyote, and at 51%, play long range. If close range, get near crit chance as you can. Those are the only exceptions

[versed summit]

It’s usually not worth overcapping.

If you want to test you can multiply your CHC x CHD in both configurations and take the whichever configuration gets you more damage.

[strong cave]

60 CHC is the cap. Optimal with or without coyote is 51-55%. Stack crit dmg everywhere else

[jaunty igloo]

Yeah definitely higher with the crit dmg mod ty

[pseudo shard]

Anyone got a good hotshot build

[thorny kernel]

Probably not the best out there but it does what i want it to do

Mantis Headshot kills give you a buff that resets the decoys cooldown once it expires or gets dismantled

[pseudo shard]

Ahh kind of what I got, just wondering what the best mr is as atm I’m using white death with determined

[thorny kernel]

That one is one of the best there is, though i personally prefer Mantis for the constant decoy uptime if you keep scoring headshot kills

Although i use Dread Edict once in a while

[subtle bluff]

that's pretty much the core everything HSD afterwards.

[thorny kernel]

I just noticed how fast the dodge city holster actually builds the charges, it's kind of ridiculous considering that you can oneshot bosses with that by building a little into headshot damage lol

[unkempt shell]

@pseudo shard HERE

[pseudo shard]

Ohh thought you meant his other outfit

[unkempt shell]

What other outfit he has two outfits and that is it right

Right

[pseudo shard]

He has the warlords of New York outfit and then his manhunt outfit which is that one

[random sigil]

For the standard red build, when using Rifles, is the Zwiadowka brand set a consideration at all? Also, is classic M1A still the best Rifle?

[jaunty citrus]

So I finally got a longhorn, can anyone recommend a build for it?

[unkempt shell]

He has that as well

[pseudo shard]

Nah that bundle only has the hooded and unhooded outfit in there

[pastel basin]

Does anyone know where that build went that was like a speedrun build in the pinned spreadsheet that had perfect focus and a famas as the primary (sorry those are the only things I can remember

[subtle bluff]

what are you looking for?

exactly. Speed run doesn't have a general build.

[pastel basin]

It was some build under the pinned Evernote build collection thingie, and all I remember seeing was that it had a famas and Lexington as the primaries and was running the perfect focus chest piece and I think perfect vigilance?

[subtle bluff]

that wasn't a speedrun build.

[pastel basin]

What was it then?

Where can I find it

[subtle bluff]

it's an old build that we try to update.

The idea is the Focus talent is really powerful if you can use it correctly

[pastel basin]

Oh so did you guys delete it or something?

[subtle bluff]

I think so.

[pastel basin]

😦 okay thanks for the help then 😭

[subtle bluff]

It not really ideal it's a lot more work to do good dps

Your welcome to try it but using 8x scope all the time isn't fun

[pastel basin]

It wasn’t that badd, I remember having it on a old account hitting around 1.2 mill per hit straight off the bat

But I have no clue why but that accounts builds have all been deleted, like the presets, I still have the pieces 😭

One last question, which talent is better, tech support or combined arms?

I feel like for legendaries it should be combined arms but I honestly have no clue

[subtle bluff]

depends on the build and content

[pastel basin]

Okay let’s say legendary strongholds then

[subtle bluff]

build

[pastel basin]

One sec let me find it rq

[subtle bluff]

combined arms

[pastel basin]

Really?, okay bet

Also would the one blue be better than a red or no?

[hexed steppe]

for turret/drone you want tech support 🤔
combined arms is great but leaves you exposed if trying to keep your damage high... ca better with burst type skills like mortar/hive/sticky

[subtle bluff]

PGC is kind of too much for Leggo

[hexed steppe]

and sepecifically on legendary with perfect glass, you aint proccing combined arms every 3 seconds without taking constant naps

tech is always the goto for these type of builds, plus if it isnt perfect combined arms, you have the same damage, just bad uptime

[subtle bluff]

wait.. uh? He needs his Skill to do the killing shot to get the buff which is kind of rare. idk

[pastel basin]

Yeah you both honestly have a compelling argument

[hexed steppe]

ok... do you seriously think a skill build is gonna survive proccing combined arms in legs... even without glass

[subtle bluff]

I am not one for turret/drone builds on leggo.

[hexed steppe]

there is a better chance at proccing tech support and then its active and can reproc itself...

without ever being exposed

[subtle bluff]

You should able to if skill build is pulling agro there is an issue overall.

[hexed steppe]

i encourage you to try it and see then... its bad advice

[subtle bluff]

I mean I use to main a turret/drone build when I was first doing leggo.

Doing GC and Memento and grabbing stacks during the fight.

[hexed steppe]

thats an even longer lasting buff... i main pca on mortar. i love pca specifically because it is high damage... but im not gonna sit ther and try and run it on turret drone... youre just low damage output in the end

unless you can keep your head on your shoulders every 3 seconds

[subtle bluff]

I mean it would be same has a DPS strikers...

[hexed steppe]

what, turret/drone?

[pastel basin]

Wouldn’t it be more dependent on the player? If you’re more aggressive in the backline of your teamates then wouldn’t ca be better? And tech support would be for those types of people that just like laying back?

[subtle bluff]

for shooting wise

[subtle bluff]

I agree with this.

I understand what you're saying local I am not disagreeing with you.

tbf there isn't a right or wrong answer here for the BP talent

[hexed steppe]

the biggest problem isnt that it can or cant be procced. the problem is you popping your head up every 3 seconds to keep it procced. your current with either tech or ca is the same damage

i mean, try it and see for yourself. if it can be made to work well then use it.. but go with perfect ca so you actually get a boost on the damage

[pastel basin]

Wouldn’t that just be a dps loss since the perfect ca backpack is a hana u brand?

[cerulean smelt]

just have a 2nd Hana U and you get skill damage in it

[hexed steppe]

ca is total skill damage, wyvern is skill damage

[pastel basin]

👀

I will 100% try this

But with the build I’m running, wouldn’t just regular ca with the sacrifice chest piece do more skill damage?

[hexed steppe]

ca and pca are both acting as an amp because you only have single source of tsd.. so its similar to the difference you would see between regular glass and perfect glass on a build.. hit the range first and fully proc both variations to double check. force multipiers are easy to farm so should be quick if you dont have one on hand

im running the same configuration you originally posted. ive got rid of the red attribute since this was taken tho

[hasty sluice]

I cry everytime i see a yellow sacrafice

[cerulean smelt]

i'm surprised local doesn't have that in their hybrid build

[hasty sluice]

Id like to add to this is that you can run a in sync shotgun instead of harmony for the extra dmage to armor.

[hexed steppe]

more unicorns

[hasty sluice]

shut

😭

[hexed steppe]

wont affect turret/drone

[hasty sluice]

it doesnt?

[hexed steppe]

nope, explosives, fire,oxi all affected by dta tho

[hasty sluice]

look at me out here spreading misinformation online

[hasty sluice]

the only good unicorn I have is a cd/cc chestplate from PS for armor on kill in my strikers build

granted its still blue tho

[hexed steppe]

i run palisade piece on my normal he turret/drone. its pretty good combined with gunner, and mop when its in hand

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much a lot of AOK on it?

[hexed steppe]

yeah

[hasty sluice]

yeah extra cd/cc is nice but have you tried 25% armor on kill. Im 100% a PS stan

[cerulean smelt]

would hunter's fury be overkill on AOK?

[hexed steppe]

this one is included in my turret/drone guide btw.

[random sigil]

for soloing, whats a good bruise build medium to long range that has SOME survivability but doesnt sacrifice toooo much damage?

[hasty sluice]

Heartbreaker

[hexed steppe]

memento + dps can fill that role

hb is great

[hasty sluice]

a rifle with the tech laser spotter on heartbreaker can put out some good damge.

its not "the best" but it can take a hit.

how large is the diff between using dark winter & a 9mm vector with killer?

ive yet to get one to test it

[cerulean smelt]

wasn't it just a duration difference/

[hasty sluice]

perfect is 90% non is 70%

the issue is that the .45 got a nerf

[cerulean smelt]

assuming that's the Dark Winter Model?

[hasty sluice]

yes

[cerulean smelt]

about the only difference comes to mind is the mods wouldn't it?
like the 45 can take a 20 round mag the 9mm would be something like 15?

[hasty sluice]

they both can take the 20

[cerulean smelt]

then no clue honestly

i have a dark winter but it just collects dust with me

[rough kelp]

I'm returning to the game after far too long, and could use some build advice.

I don't recall what my old build on Division 2 on PS4 was, but I know on The Division I ran a healer/sniper build wearing a 6 piece Classified Predator's Mark built for bleed and critical hits, the skill that gave back primary ammo for pistol kills, a House, and a Model 700 marksman rifle or the Historian (sometimes both, I do recall I dual wielded snipers in Division 2).

My style has always been to stay at the back and deal as much damage as I could, hitting the "Oh S***, the team is dead!" revive skill when things got too gnarly.

I would very much appreciate any suggestions on what gear set and guns I should be saving on my way to endgame.

[hexed steppe]

check the pinned spreadsheet. there is a builds tab that has them categorized as dps, skill, armor(tank), or hybrid. itll be a good place to start. they should be up to date

pinned in this channel

[rough kelp]

I feel dumb that I did not think to look at Pins first. ❤️ Thank you!

[hexed steppe]

look into ongoing directive. its similar to predator's mark where you get hollowpoint ammo that amps your damage as well as team getting some of the bleed ammo as well. it acts as a team buffer with solid dps output

[pastel basin]

For this build, wouldn’t perfect glass cannon be better?

[subtle bluff]

if it's leggo i'm gonna say no

[pastel basin]

No, just for like better damage in general

[subtle bluff]

of course it is

[pastel basin]

Ooo okay

[magic pilot]

The reason we don't use PGC is because generally you want Wyvern bp

[pastel basin]

Just tested it out, much bigger difference

[magic pilot]

This makes it easier to swap to BTSU or Acosta

[pastel basin]

Why Btsu?

Ohhh for overcharge?

Holy, that’s an insane amount of damage

I think I’m making too many builds 😭

[pastel basin]

Oh, so make the backpack a wyvern instead for more ease of use?

[elder zinc]

good meta bighorn build

[magic pilot]

Run glass chest still

[hexed steppe]

would wyverns 45% skill duration 3rd set bonus be useful on oxi?

[pastel basin]

Perfect glass cannon or empress with glass cannon?

[hexed steppe]

youll want an in sync shotgun secondary on that oxi for both dta/dttooc

[pastel basin]

Oh there’s not that much of a difference between perfect glass and regular

[pastel basin]

OHHHHH, now I understand why it said that, it transfers to it

Does it have to be on the first slot?

[hexed steppe]

no, just needs to be in hand when you want that buffed

[pastel basin]

Gotcha, time to farm for that now too 😭

And the chatterbox

And max duration mods 😭

[hexed steppe]

idk if chatterbox lets you shoot chem fast anymore

[pastel basin]

I’ll update you once I get it

Ykw that’ll be the first thing I’ll get

I just need 1 last piece I think

[subtle bluff]

it does

[hexed steppe]

nice

[pastel basin]

Nice 😊

Do any of you know when the Lexington is coming back again?

[viral wasp]

someone got a good heartbreaker?

[hexed steppe]

can also ceska vigilance bag, coyote mask as well

all attributes/mods are crit chance till you hit 60% cap, then all into crit damage

[pastel basin]

I have a question, does the vigilance buff get removed if an enemy hits your bonus armor?

[subtle bluff]

no

[pastel basin]

And not your actual armor?

[alpine tinsel]

So im trying to make a SMG build, im currently thinking strikers and sokolov w ninjabike to get strikers gamble and the extra crit damage from sokolov but the strikers pack is what makes the set so damn powerful…..any suggestions?

[subtle bluff]

NBB will always nerf any builds dmg.

[alpine tinsel]

No strikers pack means 25% less damage 😭😭cant do that

[subtle bluff]

I have NBB the best chance to do more.

[alpine tinsel]

Ah shit i like that

335% headshot dmg😭😭😭

[hexed steppe]

hits to shield or bonus armor wont deactivate vigilance

[strong cave]

Honestly, if you're going to make an SMG build focused around Sokolov and Ninjabike asspack, I would argue it would slot better on Hunter's fury. You can take it with striker as well but using Ninjabike just directly nerfs builds for PvE. As well as majority PvP builds. Us 'veteran' players call Ninjabike a "newb trap" because the talent sounds broken but in actuality, the bonuses don't provide more benefit. It detriments by diversifying the build too much.

The only acceptable ninjabike builds are for Umbra, Healing (PvP), and Hotshot (depends how built)

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what about NBB and Hotshot?

[strong cave]

You lose out on so many good backpack talents, like Wicked/Vigi/Unstoppable Force/Composure/etc by taking ninjabike backpack. Hunters fury has built in crowd control, so you could argue that taking 2 Sokolov pieces (chest + backpack) and using wicked would benefit you more than taking NBB

[subtle bluff]

NBB for niche builds, PvP and some fun builds is the only thing NBB is good for.

[strong cave]

I've got a weird ninjabike setup with hotshot to provide me more armor without losing 1 shot capabilities. Basically, I'm using NBB, Habsburg, Chainkiller, 3pc hotshot. I have I think 3 blues and 4 reds and can still 1 shot anything

I do have the 4 PC / Chainkiller / airaldi setup ofc but I kinda like having the extra armor

[subtle bluff]

At that rate just forego MMR can go rifles...

I don't use MMR anymore. This was one of the rare times I put it on.

For newer players for them to just get there HH going I'd think otherwise

But I get your thought.

[thorny kernel]

Tbh i love using 1886 as a pseudo MMR lol

[strong cave]

See, I've TRIED to make rifles work. I've done everything I could to make them feel viable and found that how much they bounce around as you fire is obnoxious. I've thrown every build idea I came up with at rifles to get it to work and they're just not viable for how I play. I typically play mid to long range, occasionally CQB

[strong cave]

1886 beloved yeehaw 😁

[thorny kernel]

Just with the advantage of still being accurate on cq hipfire

[thorny kernel]

I'm still trying to get the named one lol

[strong cave]

Yeah you'll rely heavy on finding reds or purples with my build. Majority of the time there always is one at the start of every encounter. Once the ball gets rolling tho with my hotshot NBB build, I'm pretty hard to drop unless I get blown up

Edit this is one of those "try the build if you want" kind of things. It's all up to the end user at the end of the day on how they play. I find it fun and different and more preferred in some situations. Having the survivability is nice

[strong cave]

Virginian? I got mine outta DZ. Still sits in my stash. I need to roll DTTOC on it 😂

It's God rolled too

[strong cave]

Still no official word, but the devs did say they're looking into it