td2-build-advice

[worn mango]

@subtle bluff so for something like Master tomorrow or even the first one, did you use something like the TechTank or did you rock something else?

[subtle bluff]

OH yea HB Tech tank for it for the first go while learning.

I almost solo this current master on the build 5 days after it came out on my 3rd attempt

[onyx sage]

time to try again

[subtle bluff]

I haven't sat down to do it. I should. It's way easier to do leggo.

[onyx sage]

eh it's both easier and harder than lego imo

[versed flame]

NO!

[topaz mist]

it kinda does after using it some

[fresh fox]

it could be better though

[topaz mist]

better how?

[subtle bluff]

Dont use HF Chest.

[topaz mist]

ah

[subtle bluff]

Don't use Bulletking

[topaz mist]

would Zero Fs be a better call?

[subtle bluff]

The build wants you get in close so SMG is works.

most things are gonna be better than HF Chest.

[topaz mist]

the only exotic smg is got is Lady Death and the only exotic shotty i got is Sweet Dreams

[subtle bluff]

Exotic isn't need and isn't the best in all cases.

[topaz mist]

i got Zero Fs and Everyday Carrier cause the game doesnt wanna give me named armor, but loves giving me named guns

[subtle bluff]

Using named or exotics isn’t necessary…..

Nor is again is the best in all cases.

[coral reef]

what is the most useful must have exotic in your mind?

[hexed steppe]

Of all time, coyote

[worn mango]

Memento, Coyotes, Catharsis, Scorpio, Chamelon, Elmo

[solar sable]

chamaleon?!

[worn mango]

It's great at what it does

[solar sable]

#spreadchamaleonhate

[worn mango]

#everythingisviable

[solar sable]

lmao

[onyx sage]

i love the champion exotic AR

[hexed steppe]

Nah I would say memento, coyote, vile, dodge city are pretty essential

[coral reef]

I saw some guys this weekend rocking what seemed to be a rifle, with like tesla electricity going on? looked exotic, you know the name and if it's any good?

[topaz mist]

St Elmo's Engine?

looks like an AR with a sorta electric coil on the barrrel?

@coral reef

[indigo fjord]

Nah we were doing missions at the time idk bout the build tho

[coral reef]

exactly that one, is it any good?

[topaz mist]

ye, one of the best ngl

pretty sure it also has the biggest mag of ARs

[coral reef]

thanks

[subtle bluff]

mix bag question when there are soo many different kind of exotics for different reasons.

[coral reef]

is it worth it to build a character around this gun? I have it and didnt know it

[stuck pagoda]

I know people were saying my build was shit, so I figured I would ask if anyone had recommendations

I use all weapons, and typically main with the Crusader shield and the Striker drone. I would like a tankier set

[stuck pagoda]

Hello fellow gorl

[hexed steppe]

Heartbreaker memento shield tech class artificer ceska piece

[stuck pagoda]

Is that english or a spell?

[hexed steppe]

Its the formula for success

[stuck pagoda]

What in the Green Goose Guava Juice is that

In order to use a formula, I must be able to decypher it

[hexed steppe]

Hearbreaker 4pc chest included.

Memento exotic bag.

Ceska piece for crit chance.

Tech class for artificer and free skilltier.

[stuck pagoda]

Right now I have, 4 bulwark pieces, and 2 mixed pieces

[hexed steppe]

Yeah no wonder you were catching flak

[tulip charm]

Xd

[topaz mist]

ehh the gun is more of a fits anywhere gun, unless you really need to rush

[stuck pagoda]

So 4 heartbreaker pieces with the chest, a memento bag, and finish it off with a Ceska brand item

[hexed steppe]

Looks like this. You're welcome....

That's tier 4 shield btw

And its strength scales with memento stacks

[stuck pagoda]

Is there a The Division version of Lootlemon?

[worn mango]

Probably the spreadsheet lol The closest thing you'll get

[stuck pagoda]

I can do the summit for HeartBreaker set, but how would you suggest going about getting the bag?

[subtle bluff]

Countdown

[stuck pagoda]

What is countdown?

[solar sable]

8 player mode
gotta do 2 Encounters to unlock the Main Objective and extract

You get around 30-40 drops per run (20 minutes max)

[stuck pagoda]

eww, I hate playing multiplayer

[stuck pagoda]

What is the best way to not having to do anything multiplayer?

[solar sable]

summit floor 10/20
it's slow

[solar sable]

why?

[royal ocean]

Is there a list that has every brand/gear set bonuses

[solar sable]

📌 Spreadsheet

[stuck pagoda]

I dunno

It just messes with my mood

my flow

[hexed steppe]

You can farm it all in summit if its preferred over countdown. Just target bag. I used to farm a lot in summit

[stuck pagoda]

I am targeting Heartbreaker rn, Can you change target at any time during summit? Or do I have to restart?

[hexed steppe]

Anytime

[stuck pagoda]

Perfect

What is the good diff to get the bag?

I am on challenging rn

Which, all in all is seeming semi easy

[hexed steppe]

The ceska can be mask, knee, glove, or holster

[stuck pagoda]

I have come to love the shotgun resently#

[hexed steppe]

I wouldn't do less than challenging

If you add a couple easy directives you'll get a bit more target loot

[stuck pagoda]

I just feel like they seem hard. Do you ave a recommended ones that could be easier?

[hexed steppe]

Keep an eye on easy to complete priority objectives that give exotics. Usually really easy and it could be any exotic

[stuck pagoda]

What are the priority objectives?

[hexed steppe]

Esc > season menu > priority objective.
The ones that say equipment item are always exotics

[topaz mist]

yea and alot of the time i can be as easy as doing a objective in a region

legit do a territory control where it tells you and bam guranteed exotic

[stuck pagoda]

Even elite ones dont give me exotics lol

Only exotics I have gotten are from the loot dudes that drop seasonal loot

tbf I am on normal difficulty lol

changed to challenging

[topaz mist]

yea simple stuff like this (idk why the exotic item label is gone)

[stuck pagoda]

Ja, mine is to do the Capitol Mission

stronghold

[hexed steppe]

The exo is from the objective, not necessarily the activity you complete

[topaz mist]

i stick to open world and missions, usually the fastest

[hexed steppe]

You can reroll objectives by holding g

[topaz mist]

once per hour though

i mean can only cancel once per

still counts as a reroll

without using a reroll

[hexed steppe]

3 rerolls , dont select until one shows that you want

After that every hour or when you complete a few obj

[subtle bluff]

Is he farming the HB build?

[stuck pagoda]

Zu spät lol

already wasted it

[hexed steppe]

Lmao

Dont worry more tonight.

Have you been doing the global event?

[stuck pagoda]

No idea

[hexed steppe]

Thatll be a no then

[solar sable]

mortar supremacy taking the whole world ngl

[stuck pagoda]

I think its over rn

[hexed steppe]

It isnt. Ends tonight

[solar sable]

I think there are 8 hours left

[hexed steppe]

What took you so long to make it to the winning team 🔥

[worn mango]

I heard they're taking mortar out because it's so bad, wasted space

[solar sable]

my lazy ass

[stuck pagoda]

It says diactivated

[worn mango]

Need to make room for deployable cover

[hexed steppe]

Goto the menu, press f

[hexed steppe]

Must be a console thing

[topaz mist]

@stuck pagoda if your prio obj is a mission you can fast travel to the mission start to save you time

[worn mango]

Controller goes dead from inactivity with mortar so makes sense

[solar sable]

seems like a wireless issue

[worn mango]

I call it a skill issue, controller can't handle the power

[hexed steppe]

Doing something wrong

Or you need a better build

[dreamy valve]

damn Hollywood has turned this tips build into a beast

[fair dragon]

hollywood is generally "early bird gets the worm". you dealt good damage only because you were there before the others

[shy willow]

Now I am become death

Destroyer of shields

[fair dragon]

GOod one

[worn mango]

Oh no there's OD tech tank

Might have found my niche for master mission

[dreamy valve]

almost true, its whoever tags the enemy in the room first. Also needs to survive

Ive dropped into the middle of missions and still kept up

really nice one again, theres no other 6 blue core build that can do this

this was with me taking the time to open chests, doing objectives and reviving people

[hexed steppe]

tbh, the cores are irrelevant when hollywood is active. thats why a single minigun shot on an all red and a emp on all yellow pops shields for the same amount of damage for every shield popped. it does make it accessible to anyone tho, which is one of the things i like about hollywood.

[dreamy valve]

The only players that came second to me where the ones who were using full high end explosive damage skill builds that use the instant detonate sticky

[hexed steppe]

one of my favorite ge.

that just means you shot first

[dreamy valve]

after the Hollywood change, its the most fun Global event

[hexed steppe]

gl is really good with it too since you dont get slowed down like with mini gun

[dreamy valve]

Everyone had far longer range than my flamethrower, but yeah, its also about acquiring targets faster

[fair dragon]

Instant deploy sticky, detonate immediately

[hexed steppe]

100. doent mean it meh, tho. its a fun ge with a lot of flexability

[dreamy valve]

The great thing about having full blue is also the better survivability than players who go full yellow or red during the event

[hexed steppe]

thats what i been doing this time around. OD, jammer/emp sticky, bluescreen

[fair dragon]

Enemies shouldn't even touch you if you're doing it right, hence no need for blue cores

[dreamy valve]

Yeah players used deploy sticky to instantly explode guys in my games

[dreamy valve]

you get downed sometimes, its not a prob, since I bother to revive with my survivability

Im a team player as well

[hexed steppe]

its rare to have an npc get to you.. except maybe chunga /heavy npc

[dreamy valve]

its ok not to play perfect in every game, sometimes you get distracted

[hexed steppe]

unacceptable

[dreamy valve]

cause I had all directives on

[hexed steppe]

i didnt barely farm this one tbh. i dont think i broke 100 levels on the 3x

[dreamy valve]

I forgot the event was going on until yesterday

[hexed steppe]

i need 1 more bluescreen tho, i got one alt lacking. i kinda like it on OD

[dreamy valve]

The cluster hard wired spam was fun too when I need to stream a movie on the other screen

[dreamy valve]

Half the time, players leave my game when I have scavenged skill on bahahah

[ashen turret]

Why are your set pieces so blueish instead of my greenblue?

[hexed steppe]

color blind mode

it also outlines the radius of things like mortar/hive/chem in white, making them easier to see

[ashen turret]

Cheers, quite like that idea

[hexed steppe]

find it in settings. there are a couple other types

[frigid nimbus]

Is combining Breaking Point with the Merciless a good idea?

[hexed steppe]

i doubt it, but worth trying if you like the weapon

[frigid nimbus]

It feels like the handling and damage bonuses make spamming the merciless a bit more feasible.

[hexed steppe]

ubisoft agent metrics extremely skewed, indicating a high percentage being colorblind 😂

[subtle bluff]

Umber if you want to spam it but make sure you get enough weapon handling to deal with it's kick.

You do not need to boost it's dmg when it has a burst from itself.

[bright raptor]

if you're OK with Braced and its greater reliance on cover it can work

[placid latch]

I have a merciless build and you need around 40% handling

[frigid nimbus]

I found the Merciless to be fine with Breaking Point

The kick wasn’t bad and you can just kinda hose down enemies

[placid latch]

To would still be a shame to use chest talent for that though since it's one of the rare spot where you can gain weapon damage

[placid latch]

I do use Breaking point

[tulip charm]

You’re better off running a HE rifle build

[frigid nimbus]

I’m mostly just making meme builds

[placid latch]

Completly true

[frigid nimbus]

Like I’m running Acosta Kneepads with the build so…

It’s not meant to be serious

[placid latch]

but sometime, you just like the weapon who does ka boummm

[frigid nimbus]

I made a blindfire true Patriot built with rugged guantlets

[patent gull]

What we thinking

[tulip charm]

Replacing the backpack and knees to ceska backpack and hb knees

Also unlock technicians for qol

[patent gull]

Ik im on stage 2 😓

I was gonna work on it tonight but downtime happened

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dreamy grotto]

in general heroic gameplay its also fun and refreshing, to just flame enemies to death

[graceful cape]

Can anyone send me an good capacitor build with high damage

[subtle bluff]

more context plz

[graceful cape]

I like to play aggressiv
And want to run solo on highest dificult

[subtle bluff]

You don't want cap then

HF is what you want

[frank vault]

hey im on the spreadsheet and i see 2 tank builds one Raid Haz/Regen Tank and the other IH Raid Tanks should i try to make both or which would you recommend i should go for?

[placid latch]

Both build are diff because for different boss

If you plan to play raid, do both

[split tide]

I need some help

Im wanting to create a build that stacks overshield just by hitting bullets and im wanting high dps but im wanting to be able to stack so much overshield i would be invincible

[cerulean smelt]

i wish you luck in that endeavor

[placid latch]

You would probably beat the striker meta with that build

Mind to share when you do it

[subtle bluff]

what's overshield?

[split tide]

Yeah i can

Add me

[patent fossil]

Heartbreaker is probably the closest you'll come but high dps + invincible is not a realistic combo in this game, unless you maybe play on Normal difficulty

[cerulean smelt]

i'm thinking they're talking about overcharged shield or maybe the whole bit with Memento trophies and Bloodsucker?

[split tide]

Im trying to work on it now i just need to find either a weapon or armor that builds oversheild stacks when hitting bullets then i can stack that on top of some sort of gear that also adds damage stacks when hitting bullets

[split tide]

Yes in a way

[subtle bluff]

WTF is overshield stacks in division 2?

[placid latch]

The_Kettle answered properly

[patent fossil]

Heartbreaker is literally the only thing that gives bonus armour on hit (not on kill or other condition)

[subtle bluff]

Naw I wanna hear him explain himself.

[cerulean smelt]

what about Dread Edict? was that a on kill?
or headshots with Hotshot isn't it?

[dreamy grotto]

ravenous

[patent fossil]

Ok, maybe I forgot a few😂

[split tide]

Well i could try my best to find a good balance that gives me enough overcharged shield to not take any damage if someone gets behind me while im shooting at someone else but have a high enough DPS to kill elites in an instant

[dreamy grotto]

but it require dedicated build)

[subtle bluff]

How we can help him make a build around "overshield stacks"

[urban latch]

The in depth one has been updated recently, go with that one

[dreamy grotto]

maybe 6 blue heartbreaker with catharsis and chameleon?

[subtle bluff]

I wanna hear this thought process.

[dreamy grotto]

6 blue gives huge armor, chameleon gives weapon damage on body stacks, catharsis gives additional heal)

[placid latch]

6 blue doesn't display high damage

[split tide]

But would it beat the striker meta tho 😂

[subtle bluff]

bud... if there was a build like we would be all using it..

[dreamy grotto]

well, smg\shotgun hb with versatile and centurion scabbard probably can compete now

[subtle bluff]

@split tide explain what you're talking with this overshield stack.

[dreamy grotto]

bonus armor

[split tide]

Well think about this if you get shield just by hitting your bullets then you can outlast the striker in an endurance match cant u

[subtle bluff]

Armor Or Shield

[split tide]

Because sure your getting hit but you are getting armor and overcharge armor just by hitting your bullets and if theres a piece of gear that gives overcharged armor by getting hit by bullets you would be unstoppable

[subtle bluff]

I need him to explain himself not just saying random stuff. I'm pretty I know what he wants but he isn't gonna do more than Strikers still.

[split tide]

Im talking about the blue bars

[subtle bluff]

Overcharged armor now...

It's called "Bonus Armor"

[split tide]

I just dont know the exact term

[split tide]

Mb

[patent fossil]

Likely just a translation issue

[split tide]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

Dont doubt but he can go slower and take his time saying it.

First off Bonus armor does not make stay right that much longer than a striker can kill something

[dreamy grotto]

first of all, you need to state - do you talk about pve or pvp?

coz you saying about outlasting striker, what does it mean?

[subtle bluff]

Pretty sure he means in a fight.

[split tide]

Im saying by hitting your shots you could get bonus armor and by getting hit by bullets more bonus armor and pair that with heartbreaker and be invincible is that possible at all?

[urban latch]

4p heartbeaker with the chest, memento backpack, 1p ceska, and technician spec for the laser pulse attachment

[split tide]

PVE

[subtle bluff]

What Raucey said is what fits what you want.

[dreamy grotto]

its definetly heartbreaker, but if you go all red bonus armor is... meh

[subtle bluff]

But it will not do more DPS than strikers that's all I have to say.

[dreamy grotto]

if you go blue - you lose some damage

[subtle bluff]

But he wants to stack armor to fight longer

[split tide]

Red? Theres RED?!?

Is it better?

[subtle bluff]

Weapon Damage cores

[split tide]

I wasnt talking about cores

[subtle bluff]

That's what we're talking about

[split tide]

I thought u were saying theres red bonus armor 😂

[dreamy grotto]

cores directly affect amount of armor you can have

if your build is all red cores - you armor amount is so small, so you get very little bonus armor from heartbreaker to outlast anything, IMO

[split tide]

Im talking about this stuff

[subtle bluff]

Division 2 is pretty balance on either doing a lot of Damage or "Surviving longer."

[dreamy grotto]

its called bonus armor

[subtle bluff]

YES Bonus Armor.

[urban latch]

your talking about youtube clickbait

[split tide]

I want all of it 😂

[dreamy grotto]

i already suggested

4 pcs heartbreaker, all blue with chameleon - as it a bit offset lack of weapon damage from cores
or hearbreaker with memento, as Raucey suggested

[subtle bluff]

YES we can do this but it can be all pointless

[split tide]

Ye im still watch level 12 so im pretty new to end game so i kinda understand but i dont know how to build it

[placid latch]

Why not follow that youtube build and tell us more when you have tested it out in the field how awesome that build it

[split tide]

Would it be pointless for tower PVE

?

[subtle bluff]

Keep playing farming and learning. This is gonna fly over your head and watching 95% of youtube builds is gonna turn you in the wrong way.

[split tide]

Because that what im wanting to do

[subtle bluff]

Dead things can't shoot you.

[split tide]

I get that but im having trouble killing solo legendary in tower

They have so much health

[subtle bluff]

LOL you shouldn't on legendary.

[split tide]

Im wanting a build that can

[dreamy grotto]

oh

[split tide]

I like challenging myself

[subtle bluff]

Then build up to it don't start there..

[placid latch]

if you don't have the proper build and skill, you won't go anywhere on legendary

[subtle bluff]

Then learn first.

[split tide]

I get that thats why im currently grinding tower on challenging

[subtle bluff]

There is a lot to learn and you're not gonna just do better with a "good build"

[placid latch]

And by skill, I mean proper cover, peeking and situation awareness

[split tide]

To be fair im running heartbreaker so its easier

[subtle bluff]

I solo Legendary Summit on strikers but that's because my gameplay skill is fairly high.

Div has a learning curve, don't think you can just be good out of the gate.

[split tide]

Mine is too usually but i kinda fell into the bad habit of run and gun

[dreamy grotto]

1. usuall engame is heroic, coz legendary require more strict playstyles, shutdown many fun builds, etc
2. as low shd level youll better be just learning generall stuff, and not attempt to do legendary yet
3. build some general build like strikers, all suggesting, and then branch to what you like

also do countdown, its faster to get items there

[split tide]

With the handheld shield

[subtle bluff]

You can run and gun but it's not the same in div.

[cerulean smelt]

nods i remember the one guy asking for a build where you don't need to take cover like at all. was like good luck on that buddy o7

[split tide]

What my main struggle is right now is i dont really know what to do with all my spare gear i have a full inventory but i dont know what to toss and what to keep and if i do toss it how to do it should i deconstruct or put towards research

[subtle bluff]

Spreadsheet in the Pinned Messages. Read the guides.

[placid latch]

Damn !! Where is the https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308556916653297666/1366294807613538344/Resto_Chem_Dmg.gif?ex=681af8b2&is=6819a732&hm=43156e371fb606af6be27e1d423ff742dd48684ca59fe3d10ad9cdfc836f6dad& ?

[dreamy grotto]

look, as a new player you need a reliable build to farm other stuff
ppl here allready suggest you to get strikers set and work with it

[split tide]

And im still on the learning curve of the research table so kinda new to it

[placid latch]

Made me laught so hard

[subtle bluff]

I got the wrong one. that was 20mb gif..

[placid latch]

😮

I though you were talking about learning curve

[split tide]

Where I ultimately want to be in the game is i want a fully customized gear and weapon set where every mod and sub mod is selected by me to support my own play style

[subtle bluff]

Noo YouTube video will teach or show you how this works. This is just from game knowledge and learning how to stack damages.

[split tide]

I want to be able to tank bullets and deal damage and when using cover i want to be able to use my drone to buy me time if i ever need to plate up

[placid latch]

Honnestly Div 2 is pretty deep in learning

[subtle bluff]

He wants everything but doesn't know he can't have everything.

[split tide]

Ye ik

[cerulean smelt]

soo true
played since day 1 far as i can tell and i'm still learning new things

[placid latch]

Having a restore chem launcher (mean for healing) dealing 50 M damage is really fun

[subtle bluff]

Feels like we're repeating ourselves with him now..

[placid latch]

Especially when you know that chem launcher deal around 200k damage

[split tide]

Imagine if you could take the special ability from something like momento and put it on something with high dps or tech

[subtle bluff]

It's my response to people that tell us they XXX,XXX amount damage but don't know what DPS is..

[split tide]

Im sry im still learning

[subtle bluff]

We've done it all.

[placid latch]

Check out the hearth breaker build on the spread sheet

[split tide]

Spreadsheet?

[placid latch]

reach heroic with it

and then come back for more feedback

[cerulean smelt]

upper right hand corner here thumb tack icon

[placid latch]

It's pinned on this channel

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[cerulean smelt]

first blue text click on it and a google doc spreadsheet opens

[split tide]

One problem with that its called Mike-1 😂

Jkjk lul

[cerulean smelt]

mike-01 wants to talk to you about your extended warranty on your internet though

[placid latch]

Surpass it will you learn young padawan

[split tide]

😂 seriously tho is the game back up yet

[split tide]

I am not the jedi you are looking for 😂

The jedi was never here 😂

[cerulean smelt]

maybe you're a jedi in fox clothing?

[split tide]

The jedi was never here 😂

[subtle bluff]

Let me put to you this way. In the last 3 months, when I've had someone want to tank in legendary missions, they go down or do nothing when they're grouped with me.

[split tide]

I get that

[cerulean smelt]

that's the whole issue
you either can soak up some damage but you shoot spit wads

you can kill faster but have wax paper armor

[split tide]

Tbh it doesnt have to be a tank build i just like seeing the 😂 “pretty blue armor” but on a serious note im just wanting to be able to hold my own solo in tower in higher difficulties so i can get better RNG on gear drops

Also other than striker and heartbreaker is there anything else i should target because i already have 4 hearbreaker gear items and 4 striker items

And the striker backpack

[subtle bluff]

GO Read the guides.

Or look at them

[bright raptor]

See if there's anything in Hub that seems interesting to you, then farm it and try it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[cerulean smelt]

i say just go try everything you're thinking out and not worry about what we say if you're being so adamant that there's a way to constantly have a crap ton of bonus armor and still do damage

[placid latch]

That's also part of the fun in Div

[split tide]

I mean i have gotten close not a crap ton of bonus armor but i have been able to shred elites and regain lost regular armor when killing and damaging enemies

The menace is still here

😂

[cerulean smelt]

you should consider taking mike-01 out for dinner or something

[split tide]

😂

[placid latch]

Already 2h delay

She probably left before him

[split tide]

While i was able to do this i was only at 1M armor

[placid latch]

Wondering who are waiting who ?

[cerulean smelt]

think the server is waiting to get paid by either?

[split tide]

😂 maybe Mike-01 is taking the paycheck

Btw i have a question and if u cant do it in the game imma feel pretty stupid

[cerulean smelt]

i rarely play so i probably don't do it XD

[split tide]

I want to know how i can get a maxed out gear item with no mods and no special abilities and i want to know how i can build an index of special abilities even from specialty items and apply them to that gear item that way i can have a fully custom piece of gear like having a striker armor or a heartbreaker gear item but with a skill tier instead

[limber mason]

you have to grind to make the parts drop with what minor stats you want

then you can reroll the core on anything

[split tide]

Darn so its not possible to hand pick the minor stats

[limber mason]

so say you get a Striker chestpiece, Red Core ; Crit Chance ; Crit Damage, you can reroll ONE of these stats

so two have to be the stat you want

[split tide]

Darn

[limber mason]

and one you can chage

[hazy steeple]

@split tide Gearsets only drop with 1 Attribute slot.

[limber mason]

oh right, good point I forgot

then apply my example to regular chest piece

[hazy steeple]

Which is why we usually suggest Ceska as one of the 2 non-gear set pieces, in the case of crit builds.
So you can have more slots dedicated to CHD.

[split tide]

So theres no way to get a striker chestpiece with a yellow core; add 120,000 armor; weapon handling; weapon Damage

[hazy steeple]

e.g. for Strikers, it'd be Ceska chest and probably a Coyotes Mask.
In the Incursion, you can make another piece Ceska instead, and use the Striker Chest. But I wouldn't recommend it for normal play.

[limber mason]

as for getting maxed out stuff, higher difficulty means better quality drops, but still quite random

[hazy steeple]

Weapon Damage is a core attribute, so is Armour. You need to pick one of those 2.

[limber mason]

nope, the system is locked into the configuration you see, one main attribute, two minor attributes (or one minor for sets)

two exotics make exception, Momento and Ninjabike backpack, they each have no minor stat, but all 3 core stats

[split tide]

Can adding a skill tier be a minor attribute?

[placid latch]

You need to work on the library

[limber mason]

no, skill tier is a core attribute always

[hazy steeple]

@split tide When the game is back up, you should look at the gear yourself, get a feel for how it works.
The basic stuff is pretty clear when you look at it.

[cerulean smelt]

about only way to add skill tier with weapon or armor cores is through Arca Buz de brazos and Palisades

[split tide]

There is armor that you can equip that having 2 pieces of the set adds a skill tier are there any other sets like that because if i could find 3 then i could have 3 sets of 2p all adding 1skill tier per set and reroll all armor pieces to be armor so i can have quite literally a maxed out shield

[hazy steeple]

Well, there's the Kard TDI, but that's only when you are holding it in your hand.

[cerulean smelt]

then there's teh tech specialization if you gotten the points to fill it all in just grants a skill tier

[split tide]

Ooooh

That made me think of sum

I have a weapon that when i get a kill it adds a stack of skill tier and maxes out but goes down pretty quick

What if i was to pair that with striker set for max dps

And reroll all striker gear for armor

So my shield is strong

My drone will get stronger as i kill

[hazy steeple]

Then your gun damage would be about the same as throwing paper at them.

[limber mason]

shield benefits from both blue and yellow cores

[split tide]

Yes

[limber mason]

but stacking both won't get it past a certain point

[split tide]

Darn

[limber mason]

still ends at tier 6

[hazy steeple]

Well....

[split tide]

How? I thought that the striker gear set is Op

[limber mason]

striker is great, but it doesn't lift alone

it needs good stats to amplify to really good damage

[hazy steeple]

You need some form of red core to get it to OP.
most PvE setups don't use any blue or yellow cores at all when it comes to DPS setups.

[split tide]

I get that

[limber mason]

it's the math basically, stalker amplifies damage, but if your damage is low, what will you amplify?

I hope it makes sense

[split tide]

But using the striker gear set only requires 4 pieces if the other two are damage gear sets then i can also have all minor attributes set to damage stuff then it will stack and i will have 4 armor core attributes and when i kill my skill attribute will go up therefore wouldnt i deal massive damage and when i kill my drone will get stronger and my shield will too

[split tide]

Makes sense

[limber mason]

same thing with the minor attributes

critical damage is calculated from your base damage

so you can get it to a certain point but not as good as a more dedicated build

[split tide]

I get that

[cerulean smelt]

@split tide https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/AwWl7SOreAuArI2BGSqDMMICY5Tw4HGlEkWmEAsAbCNXpc+OVeyWy3Fx9L91YI+YAaSA
this will get you 2 weapon cores, 2 armor cores and 2 skill tiers alone, but the 2nd weapon core you can't get maxed out damage

then if you add 2 palisades to the mix you get 4 armor cores and 3 skill tiers

[dreamy grotto]

Is there any chart of weapons with long rail for laser attachments? especially smgs?

[magic pilot]

45 vector probably your best bet

[dreamy grotto]

yeah, allready using that, was wondering maybe something better exist

[magic pilot]

Sadly no

[dreamy grotto]

welp, i like vectors, so its probably a good news)

[split tide]

How would this build do?

I just put it together rq

Any notes?

And how hard would it be to acquire such gear

The armor on kill isnt a need or a must it was just what i chose real quick

[dreamy grotto]

you cant wear 2 exotics at a time in a same category (1 armor, 1 weapon only)

[split tide]

What?😭

So starting from here how would u modify it to make it a viable and usable set?

@dreamy grotto

Now that you have a visual representation of what im trying to do

[dreamy grotto]

as it was allready suggested - you should look at basic builds for a start, and chose something that you can run in a groups

to get gear you want later for your dedicated build
its a game after all, and if you find a fun building this stuff, its ok - but noone will want to see build like this in a group content

[devout iris]

For a DPS striker do you need more CHD or be equal and have CHC and CHD?

[dreamy grotto]

usually you go for 50% chc and all that left into chd

[split tide]

I would try to balance it because if you put too much towards CHD then you are leaning on the chance you get the CH but if you put too much into CHC then you wont do enough CHD for it to matter

[split tide]

Like he said

[devout iris]

Oh cause I have just CHC on 3 of my gear and the rest just CHD

[urban latch]

crit chance has a hard cap at 60%, and we generally have a choice between the two at a 2:1 ratio. The tldr is get 60% CHC and over 120% CHD. If your less then keep that 2:1 ratio, like 50% CHC, 100% CHD. An optimized build is generally easily able to get over 120% CHD with 60% CHC though

[stuck pagoda]

Btw, what diff is needed for exotic to drop?

I have a bunch of heartbreaker, the last thing needed is the memento

I did a countdown run on challenging, and while I got a shit ton of gear and legendary, no exotics

[patent fossil]

Exotics are not guaranteed on any difficulty, chances are likely slightly higher on heroic, and you earn more coins to buy exotic caches with

[stuck pagoda]

I just feel I dont understand how everyone seems so op compared to me. Kind of annoying.

[stuck pagoda]

So I should run on heroic, targetting bags?

What are exotic caches?

[limber mason]

they drop one guaranteed, randomly selected exotic

[limber mason]

well it can take time I will say that much, but you can get there step by step

[patent fossil]

Build and play style most likely

[stuck pagoda]

And how can I open them/find out how manz coins i have

[stuck pagoda]

I am trying to actually make a build. Right now I have 4 heartbreakers, 2 bulwarks

[limber mason]

you get them easily each week from resource donation project

[patent fossil]

There's a vendor in the helipad area next to white house, a laptop by 'rally point omaha'

[limber mason]

well maybe we can help but first, what sort of playstyle do you want, tanky? damage?

[patent fossil]

That's why, then. Check the pinned spreadsheet for proper builds, recommend starting with striker.

[limber mason]

your current build is mostly tanky with some damage, check spreadsheet but also tell us preferences

for recommendations

Momento is a very good choice though, very comfortable on most builds

[stuck pagoda]

I tend to do tanky. I use the crusader shield, switch between all weapons. I use a striker drone to increase damage.

I dont have a set playstyle, I have always just done what works

Someone recommended using 4 heartbreaksers and the memento

[limber mason]

well tanky builds tend to rely on teammates to kill faster, but you do also survive easier

[patent fossil]

Running more or fewer than 4 pieces of a gearset is usually pointless, gearsets have fewer brand and stat bonuses than high end (yellow) items, the 4pc bonus is what makes up for this

[limber mason]

if you rely on shield mostly, you could instead focus on just making the shield tough, instead of the character, and boost your damage more

[stuck pagoda]

The bulwark increases armor regen and armor with 2 pieces

[limber mason]

yes but you do not need much armor regen if most damage is blocked by shield

[stuck pagoda]

+10% armor for 2 pieces

for now, that is good

[patent fossil]

Yeah but less than you'd get from high end items and you lose minor stats too

[subtle bluff]

here save us some trouble.

[limber mason]

so you have to balance things to get more out of your builds

[shy willow]

Bulwark itself is not a very good set

Tanking as a whole is not a very effective strategy

[limber mason]

I have one idea you can try

but it might involve some grinding, you should see a reasonable damage boost, and your shield should stay the same

but you can sacrifice the character's armor, since you will use shield anyways

[stuck pagoda]

I think damage is the biggest issues

[limber mason]

yeah you have very few sources

[stuck pagoda]

My other issue is that the shield breaks easily in higher levels

[limber mason]

yes we can take care of that too

[stuck pagoda]

i dont fkn understand how to be good at this game

[limber mason]

let's take it step by step

[stuck pagoda]

My issue si that I am pretty good at all games, but never able to be amazing at anz

[limber mason]

first off, your shield, it works like any skill, getting higher tiers makes it tougher

but it benefits from both blue and yellow cores

so if you say have 2 yellow cores 2 blue cores, it should go up to tier 4

[stuck pagoda]

Ja. I wish the SHD stuff actuallz helped it, like the Skill Repair one

[limber mason]

one does help

do you have technician?

[stuck pagoda]

I hav 2 yellow and 4 blue

[limber mason]

technician gives you a hive that repairs your shield while you use it

[subtle bluff]

here's my issues with Tanks. You need to have a balance.

[limber mason]

Technician is the rocket launcher specialization

[stuck pagoda]

No, I havent

[subtle bluff]

Selfish tank that just lives can't help and won't do any dmg to pull agro.

[limber mason]

you should try to get that, specifically you want the Artificer Hive, this will repair your shield in bits while you use it

[stuck pagoda]

Im not selfish, I hate multiplayer

[subtle bluff]

Support tanks can be really help but the playstyle isn't normal.

[stuck pagoda]

I already hate countdown

[limber mason]

it's kind of a lot to explain though, it's better if we do this in steps

[subtle bluff]

You can tank in solo just takes forever to do

[limber mason]

yeah my idea is to get her a tankier DPS build

something that does good damage but can stand in open too

alright so, we can build this around Heartbreaker, Momento as backpack, but then chest we will see

Momento does a bunch of good things, it gives you damage, gives you armor regen and skill efficiency

I think at max stacks it's almost like an extra skill tier

ok so Sylvie, first step if you can would be to get Technician spec, this gives you two advantages

[stuck pagoda]

I started it now

[limber mason]

first you get an extra skill tier passively, secondly you get Artificer Hive, this will repair shield as you use it

after that my idea is you get Momento, for future, and go for a Red core Heartbreaker

and third, Technician will give you a laser pointer mod for your guns that will pulse any enemy you are looking at

this works really well with Heartbreaker, easier to build stacks and actually apply the damage it gives, since remember it has to be on pulsed enemies

[bright raptor]

The Heartbreaker chest bonus is better than a high end talent

[limber mason]

I am thinking of something like this, gloves and maybe kneepads yellow/blue instead, not red

but ideally you'd have like 4 red cores at least, combined with the heartbreaker damage

if you get 2 more blue/yellow cores instead you'd have tier 5 shield too

hive will automatically repair it while you are playing too

weapons are your choice, but the Flatline talent works perfect with Heartbreaker

[bright raptor]

Blue over yellow because it's what the gearset pieces already drop as a core attribute

[limber mason]

yes true, but yellow would make Artificer repair better

[onyx sage]

the bottleneck isn't the healing amount, it's more so that there's a hard limit of 10s per repair and that's more likely to be the bottleneck. this isn't improved on at all with yellow cores

you could max out your shield every repair, but it's likely your shield will break within the 10s waiting for the next repair

[limber mason]

oh I wasn't aware

guess blue cores then should be better if it already repairs enough

[narrow bough]

I slept on Dilemma way too long. It is absolutely crazy with this rifle and boomerang. Just everyone dropping down like flies.

[grand condor]

Can you even make a "comfortably" build in this game. I have tried all out armor and the the difference is that I survive 1.1 sec instead of 1 sec when flanked 🤣

[bright raptor]

that's the secret, "comfy" is a function of situational awareness allowing you to control how the fight plays out

[narrow bough]

Throw away all the blue, just kill the enemies before they will even try to kill you. I play with full red glass canon rifle and the best defense is being offensive. No stacks, no builds up, just pure damage. Look for build that will just clear enemies as fast as possible.

[bright raptor]

you lose that and suddenly even a random red bar can ruin your day

[narrow bough]

not always it works out. multiple times the game will decide to spawn enemies from multiple directions. since everyone has aimbot, it is impossible to control situation like that. stuff like this happens since enemies will spawn close to the proximity of the player.

[grand condor]

This is exactly the point, I think the game is a little brutal in this sense. For example in skyscraper. You need to hold a position and with just 1 cover in one direction but 4 doors....

[narrow bough]

the cover will eventually kill you since every type of enemy tries to get you OUT of cover. not to mention that the meta for guns is "damage to target OUT of cover" so playing outside cover with shield on and have a mobility is the best solution.

sadly even there it can happen you will choose wrong doors/spawn point and the game will decide to spawn enemies there lmao. no one will survive that crap. everyone elite 😄

[cerulean smelt]

that out of cover isn't for you to be out of cover to get extra damage. it's for you to do extra damage to things not in cover

[tawdry raven]

anyone got a strikers build for climax mission?

[glossy scarab]

wow. i gave up looking for this eons ago

[cerulean smelt]

it's a dream, dismantle it and see if it's real!

[glossy scarab]

i'll just go check and see if i can fly to determine whether im dreaming thank you very much

[glossy scarab]

another rare one.

[charred eagle]

Anybody got a healer & dps build? I prefer the chem launcher tho for heals cause I can just drop it compared to the hive where I have to pick it up

[patent fossil]

@smoky moss

to avoid clogging up general chat with build stuff

[cerulean smelt]

what's the backpack do again?

[patent fossil]

I don't bother activating the holster buffs all the time, just when I feel that extra DPS buff is helpful. If you activate the mag size buff first then swap to pistol and back, you get to keep the larger mag (just for one magazine) as well as the ROF/Damage buff, so your effective mag damage is pretty huge.

[tulip charm]

wicked

great for od

[cerulean smelt]

no i meant OD backpack

[smoky moss]

I see it.. thanks.. I'll try it.. I don't have Lexington but i have a few good guns I can do sadist on

[tulip charm]

100% more bleed damage

or something like that

[cerulean smelt]

ah ok, thanks

[patent fossil]

yeah something pretty useless, hence the high end backpack

[smoky moss]

centurion is in the general pool right?

[hazy steeple]

Shout-out to a Memento+OD setup.

[smoky moss]

that's what I ran so Rivens

it works great.. i was just saying in general chat that I found the bleed to hard to maintain on single tough targets

unless running a large mag like LMG

[tulip charm]

Eh

[hazy steeple]

Oh this is with Carnage.

and of course: the foam chem, to re-up the bleed ammo if i need to mag-dump.

[tulip charm]

even ars can maintain high od uptime

[cerulean smelt]

carnage goes RAWR?

[smoky moss]

I'm hunting for carnage when I'm done with work today

still haven't gotten it

I do love backfire.. but I think I'll do backfire on HF build as it seems to be the play

I just love the shield so much

backfire does insane amount of damage on OD

[hazy steeple]

To yourself as well.

[smoky moss]

I have 40% bleed resistance but it's not enough.. that's why I think HF is for Backfire

but i'll tell you.. i'm doing 1.3m crits with Backfire with OD

[glossy scarab]

you need like 90 or 93% bleed resistance to eliminate it entirely

[smoky moss]

more than I did with Striker

[patent fossil]

I'm running the spotter drone because microwave coils keeps regular CC on random nearby enemies, helps proc OD ammo, and boosts your momentum way faster than just getting kills

[smoky moss]

spotter drone is the one that pulses periodically right?

[cerulean smelt]

pulses all the time while it's deployed (flying next to you or you send it to a sepcific place)

[smoky moss]

microwave coils still applies to it right?

[vestal ibex]

Lost 25% of my armor to an add, no sources of regen or AOK.

[cerulean smelt]

they nerfed you

[vestal ibex]

With AOK backfire is pretty easy to use.

[smoky moss]

does jammer pulse apply status on all enemies it affects? disorients right? even without microwave coils?

I think it's 30m radius

[vestal ibex]

Jammer applies jam to anyone in it's range. No idea about the modifiers stuff.

[cerulean smelt]

microwave coils selects 5 enemies to set on fire

[vestal ibex]

EMP jam is tasty.

Spread evenly and enjoy.

[smoky moss]

the description of jammer pulse and emp apparently says they are applying the status on enemies but from experience when trying it out it was really not consistent in doing that

[vestal ibex]

You charge it up right??

[smoky moss]

I guess not lol 🙂

[vestal ibex]

It's a charge and release or hold till it does it on it's own.

[cerulean smelt]

EMP you have to hold and charge to get a bigger radius

[smoky moss]

ah..that's probably what i was doing wrong.. I treated it like scanner one.. just tapped it

[vestal ibex]

Kinda like banshee pulse.

[smoky moss]

I was like.. why is this thing not applying status.. but there's my answer I guess

[solar token]

i'm working on the first pvp build mentioned in The Spreadsheet ™️

is there a secret to getting a grupo chestpiece and matador with favorable rolls

[devout iris]

since the new exotic back pack dropped, what build's can it be used for?

[solar token]

i haven't done the math but the odds of getting one to drop or craft is quite low

[vestal ibex]

Yes.

[smoky moss]

I watched them test it.. looks like a pvp backpack really

if it's the revive one

[vestal ibex]

Naw pvp isn't gonna be that good.

I think it's a counter productive to take advantage of something like that anyway. Going down is not the goal.

[devout iris]

yeah it's the one from the climax manhunt mission of this season

[smoky moss]

yeah but in teamplay it could be strong if one of you goes down

cause you get overcharge and stuff and you insta-get the person up

literally takes a button tap

[vestal ibex]

Just use an item and strat to keep people from going down?

[smoky moss]

hey I'm not saying it's good 🙂 Felt really underwhelming to me.. even for pvp or pve.. I don't see myself using it for anything

[cerulean smelt]

still kind of broken apparently though

[vestal ibex]

I guess you give OC to people on pickup or something funky like that?

[cerulean smelt]

roguegold was doing a live and i joined to watch. manual reviving still took the normal time, but he dropped his hive it was instant revive

[smoky moss]

it has a huge cooldown too and it basically during that time you 50% damage resistance while picking a person up

yeah I watched Rogue test it

maybe a dedicated healer might find use for it.. but I'm sure there are much better builds than that to keep people going

[vestal ibex]

Yeah it's just a strange thing to bring into the game imo. To get any use of it you have to have team mates go down so if they never do you've wasted a lot to do nothing.

[cerulean smelt]

who knows maybe that have some kind of grand plan where it'll be useful later on

[vestal ibex]

Yep just like imperial dynasty I guess.

[hexed steppe]

Is it another exotic component?

[tawdry raven]

Is it ideal to use full red strikers dps on legendary matchmaking missions?

[hexed steppe]

That's what I do. Works well with a good team... I really limit exposure tho. Ymmv

[torn ore]

How do I get Brooklyn activation caches

[glossy scarab]

Gain season pass XP I think

[dusk oyster]

What do y'all think of my build? Anything I can improve upon?

[urban latch]

Check out the striker build in the pinned doc. Main thing is you'll want the striker backpack, and potentially swap out the striker chest depending on what your doing. If you are running the chest you'll definitely want a acs12 to build striker stacks.

[violet juniper]

swap bag for striker bag, run a chest with obliterate

if you need CHC, ceska

[torn ore]

Hey is Negotiator dilemma still the best Doctor Home set?

IDK if it ever was but that's what I ran it the last time I played

[subtle bluff]

Don't believe it was "BiS" even before it's change.

[torn ore]

Figured, well it was my favorite to use with it. Marking multiple targets for me or my allies to kill quickly was rather fun

[subtle bluff]

It can be useful in that sense.

[faint frost]

If i was gonna try and solo the master mission what build would yall recommend

[subtle bluff]

Whatever you’d used on a solo heroic stronghold without needing a reviver.

To note you need to kill a bit more than 200.

[torn ore]

Hey, can someone rate my Ouroboros build

Ouroboros, Rock n' Roll (for striker building, though Ouroboros doesn't have a problem building on its own), TDI Kustom (you can rez yourself twice by swapping to this before knock, or rez an ally and yourself but massive cooldown)
Fire Wall Specialization (though I'm debating making the gunner swap)
For both extra defense and damage boost of the shield

Coyote mask
Ceska backpack with bloodsucker
4pc striker. Set with striker backpack

Striker shield reviver

[subtle bluff]

What content are you trying to use this with. Next post a pic of the build.
Also I’m confused what you mean with 2 backpacks…

[torn ore]

Oop, I meant ceska chest lol

[subtle bluff]

But then bloodsucker is BP talent…

Again just post the a pic of the build it’s simpler for everyone.

[torn ore]

And I use this pretty much all the time. This or St elmo

[torn ore]

Kill me

Ceska backpack, striker chest

[subtle bluff]

POST A PIC...

[torn ore]

I didn't wanna swap Xbox app account but yeah I should've at this point if imma be dyslexic af

[subtle bluff]

Striker Chest is useful other than in incursion and places where you have time to build or fight long enough to build all the stacks otherwise, a Ceska Chest with Obi is much better.
Rock n Roll isn't needed here it's really good with Striker Chest otherwise. ACS12 with brazen is the BiS slot of dmg but if you're gonna use Ouro I'd put on an AR for anything outside of the range of the ouro.

Also all DMG weapons have DTTooC is important too.

If you want to stick with bloodsucker either swap for Memento or drop mask for a Grupo Chest with obi.

[torn ore]

What's Obi

I haven't been on for a while

[worn mango]

Obliterate

[torn ore]

Thx

[subtle bluff]

thanks I hate spelling

[worn mango]

Got you

We're a big acronym and short form community

Even sometimes I'm like "what the hell are they saying here" lol

[subtle bluff]

Ya same.. Mostly for me is spelling and English

[torn ore]

I been gone for too long, I gotta relearn y'all acronym again

But why Obi and not Obl

[subtle bluff]

Cuz I really can't spell... 😰

[torn ore]

Oof

[subtle bluff]

Probably remember now. lol

[torn ore]

Got a ar recommendation?

[subtle bluff]

Famas, f2000 (not really in this case since you can only put 2 mods on it for CHC), any of the m4, honey badger

As long as they have a good rpm

[violet juniper]

you can use slower punchier AR's too, you'll just have to use an SMG or shotgun first to build those stacks

[torn ore]

The AR is just for when enemies out of Ouro range

I think I have a god roll m4 just waiting to be used

Nvm it's a Milit g36

[onyx sage]

you can craft m4s too if you need one right now

[torn ore]

It's fine, 8 got a decent famas with strained if it's not a bad choice

[solar sable]

?????

[violet juniper]

I thought you were gonna post a build picture...

[lusty nexus]

My bad

[lusty nexus]

I don’t see it

[violet juniper]

probably got deleted by the staff team

[lusty nexus]

Yea

[slender basin]

So with Lefty, do you need to mark enemy with grenades specifically or does any mark work?

Have Lefty equipped, then mark with a grenade and then you can swap your weapon?

[violet juniper]

yes

[slender basin]

Looking at FI healer build and just wondering about how good is it to run 2 shotguns

Right

So not a surefire way for a tank to pull aggro

😄

[subtle bluff]

Shouldn't need a tank kill faster.

[subtle bluff]

As long as Lefty is in your hand when the grenade goes off.

[lusty nexus]

My hazpro build

[violet juniper]

do you do any damage?

I'd swap the Golan and provocator for 2 piece Yaahl

not sure why you need that lengmo piece either

[dreamy grotto]

he just stand there, Menacingly)

[violet juniper]

and swap lengmo and belstone for 2 piece ceska

2pc cavalier, 2pc Ceska, 2pc Yaahl is what I'd go for

Brand bonuses will net you 60% hazpro for free

plus 8% chc and 10% weapon damage. Not much, but it'll help you do your job of actually tanking by drawing a bit of aggro

If you run Backfire you'll get essentially a free 200% CHD because you won't take any bleed

any of the proper build guys here will probably be able to help you more

@subtle bluff anything to add?

[subtle bluff]

uh?

[violet juniper]

hazpro build

I recommended 2pc cav, Ceska, and yaahl

[subtle bluff]

I don't use them don't have to much opinion about it

[cerulean smelt]

i assumed it was a hazpro pvp build

[subtle bluff]

Just you don't need to 100% all them for it to be immune is all I have to say.

[violet juniper]

isn't 80-90% the sweet spot?

[subtle bluff]

PvP with that chest is lol

[subtle bluff]

I would believe so. The spreadsheet shows all the immune %

[violet juniper]

wouldn't you get so much more from not using provocator though lol

[cerulean smelt]

i just saw 6 blue cores and figured PVP build of sorts XD

[violet juniper]

blue Yaahl with obliterate would probably be way better

[subtle bluff]

People and there blue cores. More context is needed with this build to comment tbf

[violet juniper]

true enough

I don't know what backpack talent he's using

I would just slap adrenaline rush on there and call it a day for PvP ngl

[subtle bluff]

Use Armor kit for skill tier thing

[cerulean smelt]

energize. using an armorkit gives a skill tier

[subtle bluff]

Again no context on what he's using it for.

[violet juniper]

Hmmm

Has to be PvP, because that would barely clear challenging

you'd spend 5 minutes on a gold enemy

[cerulean smelt]

i'd assume reinventing the wheel with a differnt haz pro build unlike the one in the pins here maybe?

[subtle bluff]

Some people too that tho...

[violet juniper]

oh wow.

[violet juniper]

Please don't tell me the pinned hazpro is 2pc cav Yaahl and ceska

I just want to have an original idea for once lol

[subtle bluff]

This guy joined an RMM leggo Capital and did nothing....

[cerulean smelt]

dunno, but i'm pretty sure there's a haz pro build in the pinned spread sheet, mainly for IH

[subtle bluff]

Next season.

[cerulean smelt]

@violet juniper

[subtle bluff]

I have a few I made recent that was fun to use.

[cerulean smelt]

here's you 2 cav

[subtle bluff]

I point and laugh at the build using hazpro for the master hunters.

I mean only way I care is if they're using with Skill Teir to foam them.

[subtle bluff]

Here's a hint for new builds. Everyday Carrier buffs armor kits? What armor kits does something we can use in a team with it?

[violet juniper]

My ideas are more like "shotgun?"

I still want to do a backup boomstick build with the reassigned talent

[subtle bluff]

Ya I was thinking about that other day.

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, what do we know about Hive efficiency?
Btw I find the new backpack lacking, it does not seems to boost the speed you revive dead people.

[cerulean smelt]

i watched roguegold throw his hive out and it practically insta revived someone, but the manual reviving was normal speed

[mint axle]

It's because manual revive ≠ manual reanimation. Idk if the exotic applies to both because it only says revive on the description.

[magic pilot]

Efficiency is all the skill attributes

Health, haste, repair, status, dmg etc

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, but seeeing it says + -90% revive speed probably meant both the hold button to revive agent or throwing your revive hive, which is likely the holding the button to revive agent isn't benefitting from the revive speed bit

[mint axle]

I could test it out if I was home and if I had one

[stiff jasper]

0% process of season🥲

[tulip charm]

same

xd

[placid latch]

did you do activity that does give season xp ?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say not even playing is probably why

[worn mango]

How silly goose is it to run Striker TechTank with Lady Death for the sole reason of speed running missions and strongholds

[vestal ibex]

idk what a striker tech tank even is...

[worn mango]

Take heartbreaker, slap striker, use ceska chest

Anything with memento is just techtank these days

[vestal ibex]

So memento strikers?

[worn mango]

TechTank

But I jest, yeah it's all it is

[vestal ibex]

idk never heard of it but yeah techtank sounds like a brand name some youtuber pushed at some point tbh.

[onyx sage]

cough cough ikia cough cough

[worn mango]

Ding ding ding

[vestal ibex]

Meh, he seems like a good guy but idk how well or why you'd wanna use it for speed running.

[worn mango]

Oh it's just lady death plus armor essentially

[vestal ibex]

speed running=going as fast as possible. Do you mean something else?

[worn mango]

Literal running for speed

[placid latch]

Isn't losing weapon damage slow you down ?

[worn mango]

Well that's the funny thing I'm trying to balance

Is doing less damage but moving really fast between sections actually saving time

[placid latch]

Isn't Regulus just faster ?

[worn mango]

Do not own a Reggy

[placid latch]

Oh sorry

[worn mango]

Skill issue yeah

[placid latch]

I though you were

And not, i got carried on Raid

I own it but I can't manage a group or having all the necessary build

[worn mango]

Honestly though, this does feel fast

Kills super quick and the move speed with shield is hilarious

[placid latch]

Can share a picture of your build

I'm not that good with striker (I do legendary with Hot Shot)

[worn mango]

Hilarious with full momentum. At this point I'm just trying to mess around and get as much seasonal progress from these priority objectives

That's it, nothing crazy. 60% CHC, 151% CHD

[placid latch]

And lady death

[worn mango]

And really never a wimper of going down while just face tanking everything and running through

[placid latch]

Hive is enough ?

[worn mango]

Artificer goes crazy for this

And you get tier 6 shield

The only time I go down is literally getting shot in the back because I was too aggro lol

[placid latch]

I should try it

[worn mango]

It's just silly fun I think

Standard HB version is ceska mask, four piece HB with Memento and then using Lexi/ACS with laser and flatline

I believe I get 52% CHC on that one

[subtle bluff]

Best dps talent for shotguns is Brazen.

[worn mango]

That's really just for stacks, not for damage

But I guess it's all kinda even anyway because why not get damage if you're that close

[onyx sage]

yeah but then flatline is also for damage

and it's just worse at it than brazen...

[worn mango]

Man, Potomac is just not fun with an SMG

So many cover dwellers lol

[dreamy valve]

Yeah it’s not a great mission for cqb

[worn mango]

DUA was great

[dreamy valve]

I’m going to try out the Birdie backpack on a tank build and let people die on purpose to test out the gear

[worn mango]

lol

[tulip charm]

I feel its gonna be good for hive

45% hive efficiency seems nice

[worn mango]

Haven't people argued that even in an FI, it replacing BTSU is just a greater loss?

[dreamy grotto]

btw i tried it on acs with centurion scabbard and vigil pack, and daym

[vestal ibex]

Birdies rewards reviving people which means if you do a good job healing people never go down. It's just rewarding a thing you want to avoid anyway.

[worn mango]

Yeah, it just seems kinda counter productive

Like it's a last resort type thing

[tulip charm]

For FI its not even worth replacing btsu in anyway possible

I want to try it with stinger

[worn mango]

Oh it just works on all hives huh

[dreamy valve]

I’ll be testing out that hive efficiency with the other hive skills like Artificer + another skill

[tulip charm]

yeah try it for me

[mint axle]

So basically the exotic backpack 45% efficiency also means stinger damage?

[tulip charm]

Well probably

[vestal ibex]

Maybe but testing will show that ez

[dreamy valve]

I’ll try it out with my Oxidizer build

[worn mango]

Because is efficiency basically everything?

[tulip charm]

I mean btsu has hive efficiency per tier iirc

[vestal ibex]

You assume but idk testing will tell.

[mint axle]

It is not everytime that we can trust the guy who wrote the description of some items.

[worn mango]

lol

[worn mango]

I just ran a Countdown using a 2 red 4 blue PFE, Adrenaline Rush Intimidate with Brazen ACS, holy good god lol

1.1M crits on a single pellet is silly

[hazy steeple]

As always: take any effectiveness of a build within Countdown with an entire dead sea worth of salt.

[worn mango]

Oh I was just face punching the Hunters, that's the whole point

I wouldn't run PFE really anywhere else

Just had no idea how really good Brazen shotties were

[hazy steeple]

That close-range buff in CD is monstrous.

[worn mango]

I should have noted if that was there

I'd imagine by the numbers it must have been

I've been bored and wanna make that Lengmo Pesti build so running it for the pieces

Haven't gotten a single one yet lol

[hazy steeple]

CD can be so stingy sometimes, but hey, it's better than the old days for builds farming.

[worn mango]

See I have all the rose tinted goggles, I've only been here for the last year or so

For the time being I'm gonna run the perfect glass chest but I still need the other pieces

[hazy steeple]

Imagine div2 farming with no Targeted Loot, no Directives, and no Countdown or even Summit.

[worn mango]

So literally all chance huh

[hazy steeple]

That's how farming was originally.
and also, fun fact, why Lincoln is so popular. Since multiple Named Enemies. It's why most vets know how to speed-run it.

[worn mango]

Ah interesting

[hazy steeple]

Might as well ask here.
Any personal suggestions from folks on modifying the spreadsheet ND setup?

[worn mango]

Trying to decrease the length of the doc? What is your end goal?

[hazy steeple]

No single build is perfect for everyone, I'm asking for personal opinions on modifications that people have made to it.

[worn mango]

Ohhh to the actual build. Sadly I don't have an opinion, I never use ND

[dreamy valve]

I two shotted some elites in the master climax mission with an ACS12 that had brazen

with 5 blues

[worn mango]

lol

Are either of the perfect versions worth it or just ACS being big mag auto so good?

[dreamy valve]

ACS is just the better shotgun to use brazen on

since it pairs well with strikers

[worn mango]

Who needs an AR anymore

[mint axle]

The people that back then, asked a lot: can I get the Lexington?

[worn mango]

Community should have just gatekept Lexi and not put it in any build pictures but we all knew what was the pick lol

[solar sable]

back then? there's people still asking lol

[subtle bluff]

I'm planning on making a guide for building. It should cover most things. Maybe have @hexed steppe can make a new one since it's his thing. I was using it for parts of Island master works well for these spawns.

[subtle bluff]

Yeah only reason I was able to get mine, was that we had 5 of us and decide to help 3 of us get the build but doing a 5 man CD and just camping till 10s left.

I just changed my pesti to ROF. I forgot pesti already has a 10% ROF buff so another 5% is really nice.

[fair dragon]

Forget Countdown, the new Master Climacks mission has so much loot, only downside is you cant set the targeted loot

[dire anchor]

whats everyones fav shotgun? never used one myself lol

[hazy steeple]

@subtle bluff Send me a ping whenever you get the guide up and running, the spreadsheet could always use new blood.

[subtle bluff]

I'm already in spreadsheet for FI support builds.

I'm mostly been focus on the picture guides.

[subtle bluff]

Soooo true.

[hexed steppe]

I can take a look in a bit , but I dont think there have been many changes other than weapons used. There are the db dilemma, bluescreen dilemma.
Personally I'm usually just on an elmo m1acqb dilemma with glass/foxs

[hazy steeple]

If you get enough of a collection going (and a single link source that we can use), we can add your own little tab, like iKia has.

[worn mango]

Yeah I definitely don't have that deep of connection pockets. I'm in no rush, I have enough shenanigans to use. It just seems like a fun build

[violet juniper]

Honestly

I love using Diamondback or the normal variant of the rifle with determined on it

glass cannon plus backpack and you never really need to leave cover

[dusk oyster]

I finally did the meta

[fair ether]

Is your monitor HDR?

[dusk oyster]

Yeah lol

[cerulean smelt]

they just want to blind us

[fair ether]

Thought so. Sometimes when I take a screenshot it does the same thing

[dusk oyster]

With other games it's easier since I have hdr equalizer enabled on snipping tool but for some reason TD2 doesn't work

[cerulean smelt]

what do you use to take screenshots?

[fair ether]

Was kinda hoping it wasn't because then it wouldn't be an issue with the monitor and just a weird quark with print screen

[cerulean smelt]

i've been using windows snipping

[fair ether]

Same

[fair ether]

It's like a 50-50 chance for me that the screenshot is blown out

[subtle bluff]

This a YouTuber meta.. CHC is better than specific weapon damage. Get a Ceska.

[frank vault]

hey would you rather use revive hive whit the bulwark shield or whit artificer hive ?

cant rly decide on which i like them both

[solar sable]

for what exactly?

[frank vault]

mainly a tank build i want to do

[honest moss]

Artificier will heal your shield for the % it says on "skill repair" near the bottom of its effects

With foundry and say motherly love you will be super tanky. Just an example ofcourse, build as you like

[frank vault]

i apreciate the set recommendation tho ^^

so you would say artificier is better?

[dreamy grotto]

coz if you die in tank setup - you probably doing something wrong

[subtle bluff]

Tank builds are only helpful in one fightin IH. To keep a simple. Everywhere it make things take too long to do or is just heavy.

[frank vault]

ah okay its my first char and i wanted to be a tank but if its only usefull realy in the boss fight against ih maybe i swap to healer then? or is it also only good for boss/raids?

[dreamy grotto]

sadly enough, healers are not needed in general gameplay
the generall playstyle of player base is to kill things faster than they kill you, coz death is the best cc in a game)

the only variant to justify healer build in a general party, maybe - to provide enough damage amplification to teammates, to somewhat compensate that you dont do damage - but it depends on other players in a party
if they use efficient builds, and you really boost them - its ok
but if they also use some lackluster stuff - youll be wasting this damage amplification on ppl who dont do damage either. and you dont do damage

aaand then stuff like ongoing directive + survivalist exists - when you buff teammates and do damage yourself

[frank vault]

aw man

[dreamy grotto]

and even if you run ongoing directive + survivalist
or future initiative + oportunistic backpack (or any of support combinations)

your playstyle basically the same as dps, - you dont feel yourself like "buffer" coz its all happening automaticly as you play

[frank vault]

so dps all the way huh? kinda sad ngl because i like to play tank/bruiser or support style in any genre

[dreamy grotto]

the trick of the game, that you can have many loadouts with different stuff in it
and if it in your inventory - you can switch them on the go

so usually ppl play with some sort of dps setup

[frank vault]

but then why should i make so many loadouts if dps is the best way to go?

[dreamy grotto]

there also exist "skill builds" where, as example you can control enemies movement (lock them in place, disrupt, burn them etc)

and there also some buffing sets, as i mention - which amplifies damage for teammates, but you also able to dish some damage

[frank vault]

i was thinking about turret/drone build but someone told me ´´dont do it enemies later can hack ur stuff and they attack you, its only good for early/mid gameplay´´

[dreamy grotto]

well, here in channel is a pin comment

with a bunch of stuff, and also there is optimized builds for different stuff

in generall - ppl will convince you to get usuall "striker" setup - so you be able to do different stuff and farm what you personally desire

[frank vault]

striker is the turret/drone build docs ?

[dreamy grotto]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

[frank vault]

i overlook that one mb haha

[dreamy grotto]

i personally lately enjoy this setup (if you wanna farm for support build or for later):

1. you amplify teammates damage by 20% with OD bleed bullets, and by 10% with survivalist
2. you basically have unlimited ammo, and lmg can unleash a big amount of dakka
3. Bluescreen lmg have ability to CC enemies preety frequently, and this cc dont overlap with other guys in your team mindlesly spamming foam
4. you still can dish out reasonable amount of damage

[lusty nexus]

Two of them give me hazard

[frank vault]

foam worth useing?

[lusty nexus]

If ur using skill build

[dreamy grotto]

it usefull even in a full red build, as you have 2 charges - and it can lock down some dangerous enemies, but yeah, it shines in dedicated cc builds

but, as i said earlier, it can overlap with your smart teammates spamming it - in a group content, so i latelly prefer bluescreen)

[peak moss]

Anyone got a bighorn build I can use for pvp + pve

[pastel basin]

I have a question, how do people who speedrun one shot all the bosses, for example on dark hours, is this build the one they use or is it something different? And do their teamates have to be runnning a specific skill or build for them to be able to one shot like that?

[magic pilot]

Lots of team buffs and synergy

Someone else can answer the build part I'm not a big raid person

[restive dome]

Depends on the boss, boss 1 & 2 in Iron horse, rely on negotiators dilemma. Boss 3 in Iron Horse on the Busy Little Bee, so does boss, 2 & 3 in Dark Hours. To one-shot boss 1 & 4 in Dark Hours you'll need a lot of team synergy and buffs and is something you'll never do outside of a dedicated speed team.

[fresh fox]

punch drunk and habsburg bag instead

full headshot damage for a one shot build like that

[pastel basin]

Betttt

[magic pilot]

Yes that's the crit one

[fresh fox]

typically any boss other than boomer, razorback, grey, fieser and morozova

[fresh fox]

booooooooooooo

[magic pilot]

Can't you change it?🤣

[fresh fox]

no idea

[magic pilot]

I thought I gave you edit but maybe just for the raid tanks

[fresh fox]

but on most of the bosses where you can one shot with something other than nego or can’t one shot in general most people run headshot strikers now

[fresh fox]

idk i haven’t tried

[magic pilot]

Fr?

[fresh fox]

fairly sure yea

[magic pilot]

Incursion Strats are goated

[pastel basin]

Can’t negotiators also be used for boss 3 on IH?

[fresh fox]

its worse than doing blb swaps

so not worth pointing out imo

[restive dome]

Yes, but as compton says it's rather pointless

[fresh fox]

and honestly harder to do

so it’s slower, harder and not lfg friendly

[restive dome]

If speed is about efficiency, then nego for williams is rather pointless

[pastel basin]

Really? Damn okay. Would it be possible for you to share that blb build?

[fresh fox]

its that high end setup with the modifications i gave

with full headshot damage

[restive dome]

You can look on YT as well, for busy little bee shots, plenty of uploads

[fresh fox]

replace grupo with punch drunk and providence bag with habsburg

[restive dome]

But yea, follow compton's advice for the build

If habsburg is too difficult to get, use walker & harris

[fresh fox]

if you don’t want to get the habs you could do walker for slight damage or a douglas bag for some stability

[restive dome]

I'm reading your mind!

[fresh fox]

yep…

i’m too slow on mobile…

[restive dome]

I'm cheating 😉

[fresh fox]

yea you probably use a freaking crosshair or something.

ugh cheaters.

[restive dome]

lol

[pastel basin]

Also instead of the D50 could you just something like the harvest?

[fresh fox]

yea

[pastel basin]

Would it be less damage or more?

[fresh fox]

that’s old but the build is the same other than harvest for d50

[magic pilot]

D50 sucks now

[fresh fox]

way more with harvest

[restive dome]

Also, if you're interested, in my bio you'll find a link to our discord with up to date raids builds & strats, including videa guide for roles.

[magic pilot]

Got nerfed hard

[fresh fox]

it’s just an old screenshot so they used d50

because it used to be goat

[restive dome]

Harvest FTW now...

[pastel basin]

Bro hell yeahhh I love doing raids

[restive dome]

We are pc only for lfg, but the builds and how the game works is shared with consoles at least.

[pastel basin]

Yeah, that’s the only thing that’s sucks with console raids, nobody is ever really doing them, and when they are, it takes the longest amount of time to form a group

Like I’m fr about to make a clan just for raid people

[restive dome]

I'm sure they're out there already too. But that's a guess, I've never played on console.

[pastel basin]

Also harvest with optimist as well?

[restive dome]

Or flatline

[fresh fox]

flatline better

[pastel basin]

Wait is my math wrong? With optimist your weapon damage would increase by 28% with flatline it would only be 15%?

Oh wait that’s for the d50 let me check the harvest mag size rq

Oh wait no that is right

Is it just cause of how you wouldn’t have to be on top of just having one in the chamber all the time?

[magic pilot]

Flatline is an amp