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#td2-build-advice
dense echo
Challenge accepted, lol. I'm pretty happy with my SB, I need mats and mods to finish maxing out the roles.
I just started match making for Heroics and held my own. But then died like 4/5 times on a CP4 
drowsy parcel
What's a good tertiary for capacitor? DToC? Accuracy for more shots landed?
drowsy parcel
ty
patent fossil
I've asked but I wouldn't hold my breath.
civic turret
Things get out of hand or something?
cunning arrow
Any recommendation for a Scanner build ?
vestal ibex
Things get out of hand or something?
#discord-news message This is what we got and the rest is mostly speculation as to why.
onyx sage
Any recommendation for a Scanner build ?
scanner is not something you build around, it helps with your awareness of where enemies are
civic turret
https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/535049654740713502/1116752595671...
Ah. Makes sense. It's not exactly easy to keep things safe when it comes to online gaming.
hexed steppe
Any recommendation for a Scanner build ?
Recommendation would be to not run scanner pulse. Use tech class linked laser to pulse anything you aim at
red island
Any recommendation for a Scanner build ?
wym scanner build ? like heartbreaker ?
cunning arrow
Like scaned enemies take more dmg or something
patent fossil
only if you're overcharged when you pulse
cunning arrow
Ooh
patent fossil
or running spotter/flatline, in which case just use tech laser like localdeck said
red island
Like scaned enemies take more dmg or something
flatline talent on gun and spotter on chest thats it
pulse isnt like in div 1
onyx sage
you could also look into heartbreaker which is based around dealing damage to pulsed enemies, but that's the set giving that bonus rather than the pulse, and optimally you don't even use the scanner pulse
cunning arrow
the only reason i use scanner is because all the drone ones slow af or the enemy dodge them, turret one bad postion and its useless,chem launcher no dmg, firefly sometimes it just doesnt wanna blow up the enemys
red island
the only reason i use scanner is because all the drone ones slow af or the enemy...
chem launcher can be good
especially oxy or foam
cunning arrow
guess i'll go with foam
cunning arrow
especially oxy or foam
oxy they just ran out of it
cunning arrow
check the oxy build in spreadsheet
where can i find that ? 😅
red island
pinned message
cunning arrow
im lost
patent fossil
im lost
hub tab, the builds are ordered by type (red/yellow/blue/hybrids), to the right of the build name is a link that takes you to the build guide - mostly Evernote
'Oxy chem build' is the one you want
cunning arrow
ooh okay found it ty
grand crypt
Hey is anyone running a striker build?
onyx sage
no
solar sable
atp who doesn't
grand crypt
I'm trying to build mine that's why I asked. I'm trying to get a baseline
sullen sun
Brazen or Optimist for Shotguns for PvP?
grand crypt
Thanks
grand crypt
Also a really good guide in the pinned spreadsheet
I'll give it a look
bleak mica
how is this so far?
subtle bluff
how is this so far?
No Striker chest. Look at the Pic above for chest options.
solar sable
No Striker chest. Look at the Pic above for chest options.
memento is kinda good with it, there's nothing wrong imo
fresh fox
memento is kinda good with it, there's nothing wrong imo
striker chest is still meh most of the times
subtle bluff
memento is kinda good with it, there's nothing wrong imo
He's using Striker Chest, which is the only real issue for me. Why I refer him to the picture above.
glad pilot
Thanks
The coyote is meh, use a fenris/sokolov (ar/smg) chest piece, and ceska mask (if ar) and grupo mask (if smg). In group play coyote means even less.
glad pilot
Nah u
versed summit
As long as you’re playing in the correct range it’s the highest damage option, and if you use your weapons to take advantage of the different range buffs, it’s even better.
glad pilot
Or just be consistent and dont care anout that stuff and use a high end
grand crypt
The coyote is meh, use a fenris/sokolov (ar/smg) chest piece, and ceska mask (if...
Whats wrong with Coyote exactly?
glad pilot
Nothings wrong
grand crypt
Or just be consistent and dont care anout that stuff and use a high end
Just be consistent? With what dps?
glad pilot
I just prefer consistency
grand crypt
I just prefer consistency
And I'm asking consistency in what exactly
versed summit
And I'm asking consistency in what exactly
Your damage varies a bit depending which range your shooting at with coyotes
grand crypt
Your damage varies a bit depending which range your shooting at with coyotes
Thank you. Key piece i was missing
versed summit
Sorry lol
grand crypt
All good
winged prism
how is this so far?
maybe run revive hive instead of seeker for a bit more safety, up to u tho
hexed steppe
The coyote is meh, use a fenris/sokolov (ar/smg) chest piece, and ceska mask (if...
coyote still gonna be the higher damage output at mid and close ranges. if youre constantly proccing long buff on dps, thats on the player, not the gear piece
hybrid hatch
Trying to figure out why they’re playing on normal. That’s the first time during the XP event I haven’t gained any levels from taking a CP. And unlike the previous guy these ones all have decent builds
hexed steppe
trying to figure out why you stuck with them 
hybrid hatch
Oh I left as soon as we finished lol
sour jungle
Hello, anyone know a good website or source for builds?
I reached 40 and I'm keeping most of my loot and will start tinkering and extracting attributes so I can make builds.
Thanks!
peak moss
Just completed my first build today, the best advice I can give you is
Plan it out, figure out what sorts style your gameplay is, what weapon types you wanna use, then think about gear pieces and gear sets that can compliment playstyle/weapons
And then Write it down
strong veldt
Hello, anyone know a good website or source for builds?
I reached 40 and I'm kee...
This channel, look at the builds spreadsheets in pins
peak moss
Apart from the chest piece the rest is complete and that’s from 3/4 days farming gear and extracting attributes and talents
solar sable
what in the division is that
versed summit
ok it's not that bad
peak moss
Why ninja backpack?
Well it completes my stiker 4 piece bonus, gives me a 2 piece bonus in the fenris and I needa swap out the gloves for a pair of palisade one
Mainly a solo player so need the extra armour and health cl
Plus I’ve Litro jus finished it so I’m not rushing to swap it up already ygm
What would you recommend for back pack talents
onyx sage
striker backpack
solar sable
I have never seen such aberration
onyx sage
that also finishes the 4p
peak moss
Yeah I had the backpack with lower attributes
strong veldt
Well it completes my stiker 4 piece bonus, gives me a 2 piece bonus in the fenri...
Switch it to a striker backpack, there's your 4th piece
peak moss
Well yeah ig it gives me the damage increase per stack too
onyx sage
it's a big increase
peak moss
So ninja bike not a good backpack ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
solar sable
it has never been good
peak moss
Oh swear
Started playing again after a 2 year break got no clue what’s good n what’s not
onyx sage
most of the brands you get with it aren't very useful for most of what you do
solar sable
we've got a spreadsheet pinned here
peak moss
Ah I see I’ll take a look
onyx sage
but it does have uses
peak moss
Snm I’ll swap it out and farm for higher rolls on the striker bop
onyx sage
heck, there's even worse options
peak moss
Bp
What about assault rifles
I’m tryna get the st Elmo’s or eagle barer to replace the chameleon
Does the st Elmo’s drop from exotic caches?
solar sable
yes, EB doesn't
versed summit
I’m tryna get the st Elmo’s or eagle barer to replace the chameleon
A high end AR can work just as well
peak moss
True say true say
peak moss
yes, EB doesn't
Snm, heard it drops in the DZ at a low rate but anytime I’ve gone in there I get molested
So I’ll stick to doing the raid
strong veldt
Snm, heard it drops in the DZ at a low rate but anytime I’ve gone in there I get...
It does but has very low drop rate and like you said you have to extract. Not worth it, just do dark hours
peak moss
Sounds good bro
I’ll try see if I can find a group to do it with
What’s the eagle gear set
Tbf I did pull a decently rolled Scorpio ealrier
Now wen I used to play had everyone telling me the bullet king was shocking to use in a build
Is it still the same or is there a viable lmg build?
onyx sage
it's a decent option
onyx sage
Is it still the same or is there a viable lmg build?
striker as always
peak moss
Ooooo perfect
onyx sage
you could use the build you had earlier, just replacing ninjabike with striker backpack and it will work just fine
onyx sage
well striker is just the most efficient one to use with low complexity
you can use it with others like OD, nego
or high end only
peak moss
I just like the damage output especially wen I do most stuff in the game solo
onyx sage
all are viable, depends on what kind of performance you want
peak moss
Makes it a lot easier ygm
onyx sage
nothing wrong with going striker
strong veldt
High end builds put out alot of dmg. It's what alot of the old raiders use in raids cause there's no need for stacks, your always gonna shoot your best
onyx sage
we still do, especially in IH
strong veldt
we still do, especially in IH
That's what i was saying. Striker should only be used by new raiders cause they can farm it easily, after a few clears they should use high end and striker only in specific situations. Just my opinion tho
onyx sage
yeah i get you
remote gale
for my Strega Crit build, is Coyote's mask a better choice or should I go for Memento?
hexed steppe
coyote is always the stronger option. memento is great but it is weaker by comparison. its preference at end of the day
languid apex
best guns for this regen build?
hexed steppe
go with preference. there isnt gonna be any damage anyways. you cant really take advantage of the chest talent since you wont be generating bonus armor.
bleak mica
maybe run revive hive instead of seeker for a bit more safety, up to u tho
I normally do, I was just doing some challenges with the seeker
remote gale
ok, how can I increase the Crit Damage without reducing my Crit Chance?
currently heavily relying on equipment Attrivutes + Mods to reach the 50% chance mark, but the damage is lacking
proven merlin
ok, how can I increase the Crit Damage without reducing my Crit Chance?
currentl...
are you playing with HDR on per chance?
remote gale
yes
proven merlin
Do you not mind the weird washed out colours?
remote gale
that's what screenshots look like from f12
if I use print screen, it becomes much more oversaturated.
but that's not what it looks like on my screen
silent solar
new meta?
remote gale
Do you not mind the weird washed out colours?
looks more like this
anyway, is there a way to up Crit damage while atleast keeping 50% crit chance?
languid apex
looks more like this
anyway, is there a way to up Crit damage while atleast kee...
get shd to 1000
take advantage of 5x xp
remote gale
oh, so keep leveling. understood.
Summit it is for a while then
proven merlin
looks more like this
anyway, is there a way to up Crit damage while atleast kee...
ah, weird, when i play with HDR is washes out my colours.
but circling back to your question, you could try using a Czeska chest (personal preference)? it also looks like your backpack doesnt have a mod equipped.
SHD leveling your crit chance/ dmg also, yeah
silent solar
wanna try the refractor set, just dunno what works well with it
proven merlin
looks more like this
anyway, is there a way to up Crit damage while atleast kee...
i have the same build, but shd level helps. im not built into crit chance, but imo i would sacrifice some of it for crit dmg
languid apex
what secondary do yall think would be good in this?
dreamy valve
That’s mainly a rifle build right?
hybrid hatch
Seems like almost a raid dps build
languid apex
That’s mainly a rifle build right?
ehh you can run a rifle
just using the fox prayer knee pads for dmg out of cover
compact atlas
Whucha thinking on this. Mainly used for legendary runs
hybrid hatch
Good healer build if you change specialization and bp talent
compact atlas
That's a old photo. I have since changed the talent to safeguard and the specialty to the one with the cross bow can't think of the name
subtle bluff
Whucha thinking on this. Mainly used for legendary runs
Run Scopio and a lefty and change the backpack to oppoortunistic
compact atlas
Run Scopio and a lefty and change the backpack to oppoortunistic
Okay
hybrid hatch
That's a old photo. I have since changed the talent to safeguard and the special...
Survivalist
compact atlas
Survivalist thank you
subtle bluff
Survivalist or Tech works
hybrid hatch
Id change to technician but thats more personal preference
subtle bluff
EMP nada are clutch when used at the right time with sledge
hybrid hatch
Esp if you’re using ut for legendary
subtle bluff
The best backpack would be getting the "The Setup" for the Perfectly Opportunistic buff
hybrid hatch
Since it’ll always be tusk
subtle bluff
Idk why I'm typing this all. If you search this channel for my name and FI healer there a full guide for it all here.
slender mirage
Do I need to have concussion grenade equipped to get the 50% damage dealt while using the Vile mask?
solar token
quick question fellas, i'm following one of the simpler pvp builds from the spreadsheet
what is meant by 15% weapon dmg/chd?
glad heart
quick question fellas, i'm following one of the simpler pvp builds from the spre...
The attributes are weapon damage and crit hit damage
glad heart
they are probably crit hit chance and crit hit damage actually
solar token
that's what i thought, seems like that's what everything else is supposed to be
glad heart
1 piece grupo gives 8% crit chance (nerfed) this build uses an Armor core so NO weapon damage, minor are chc and chd
hexed steppe
ok, how can I increase the Crit Damage without reducing my Crit Chance?
currentl...
regular highend weapons can run 15% chc, youll be missing 10% from strega. ceska chest can give you chance. make chance a primary focus for your watch, thatll make future builds a lot easier
hexed steppe
1 piece grupo gives 8% crit chance (nerfed) this build uses an Armor core so NO ...
you mean ceska, right % tho gramps 
remote gale
regular highend weapons can run 15% chc, youll be missing 10% from strega. cesk...
does the secondary equipped weapon contribute to chc?
hexed steppe
only when in hand, or if it says it boosts something when you swap away, like busy little bee pistol talent
slender mirage
Are there classified sets in division 2?
hazy steeple
@slender mirage Nope!
pure estuary
okay thanks
btw do u guys know how much hot shot sniper should be doing on the first shot? before stacking up
I only do like 5 mill per headshot without buffs. so I find it hard to stack initially cus of how overwhelmed I get without stacks
when I stack up also im only doing like 3X mil damage
red island
btw do u guys know how much hot shot sniper should be doing on the first shot? b...
enough to kill any red bar/rusher
pure estuary
idk if thats good or not
red island
there are many even in missions
just focus a rusher otherwise, its the same
they squichy af
or a sniper even
the only thing is to get the momentum started
pure estuary
well I think 5 mil damage is not enuf
for those rushers or red barsusually I need 2 shots
I usually use my 1886 to stack the firs ttime
red island
i dont do 5m and i kill a red bar easily
pure estuary
then I use the sniper to continue
red island
but if you need a hard shot to start : spec weapon
you dont start with a rifle
you always start with a sniper
pure estuary
im using a good M700 tactical
winter rune
guys is there any use for the purple chemistry gun?
pure estuary
with a 1886 on the other slot
but like usually I lose stacks when fighting a juggernaut
red island
guys is there any use for the purple chemistry gun?
what is that ?
red island
but like usually I lose stacks when fighting a juggernaut
dont shoot the chunga until you have max stacks to pop its helmet
winter rune
what is that ?
idk how its called properly in englishðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
pure estuary
dont shoot the chunga until you have max stacks to pop its helmet
max stacks isnt enuf either
red island
idk how its called properly in englishðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
you mean oxidizer ?
winter rune
yes
pure estuary
liek I shoot once the stacks are gone since it didnt kill him
red island
then your build is wrong, max stack should pop any chunga helmet
winter rune
what is it for?
red island
wym ?
winter rune
i mean whats the use of it
winter rune
ok thanks
pure estuary
Do u guys know of a good 1886 hotshot setup?
or is that not possible? if I want to get the 1886 sniper setup I need to farm a whole new set of gear ðŸ˜
hoary sail
Do u guys know of a good 1886 hotshot setup?
pin message --> spreadsheet --> sniper setup
pure estuary
yeah I know
I saw that. I already got this setup but then I saw the 1886 setup was like complete different and I am reluctant to farm again for another build
hoary sail
I saw that. I already got this setup but then I saw the 1886 setup was like comp...
well u can run it with that. Why u want to change some pieces? just run a 1886 with determined
pure estuary
idk why but the 1886 setup in the page looks like this
maybe because hotshot doesn't increase rifle damage
only mmr damagebut my 1886 is already doing decent damage with my hotshot setup
pure estuary
I see. I was using 1886 cus the fire rate was faster
and I needed something for short- medium range
I was hoping I could go with a shield and play my build like a striker but 1 shotting them lol instead of sustained dps
subtle bluff
Drunk punch isn't worth for that slot.
Unless your using Regg more
Rifle can do 1headshots
but you need to know how to build your HH stacks
dreamy valve
Dodge City with Regulus, Boom! Headshot
subtle bluff
IDK I just run HF
pure estuary
but you need to know how to build your HH stacks
I wasn't having issues with the rifle with my current build. i was just hoping to optimise it since I realised hotshot is MMR damage
subtle bluff
but I like getting in closer.
pure estuary
I was doing well with my 1886 already with my hotshot setup I just felt like maybe I could make it better
subtle bluff
Go HF
pure estuary
I wasn't having issues with head hunter stacks
subtle bluff
I mean for 4heroic or leggo
pure estuary
cus it would oneshot anyway after stacking up. and the dps is higher than my rifle cus it fire sos much faster
I still do like 5 mill per head without stacks
idk what is HF
pure estuary
I already have a hunter fury build bro. I just enjoy one shotting
willow hinge
Does the Gaffer Tape - Damage Reduction mod on the Feed slot (small cannon) on the striker drone mean the drone takes X.X% less damage, even though it's on the Feed slot?
subtle bluff
All I run it HSD on my HF
pure estuary
the clear speed is so much faster. I need to optimise my hunter's fury build alot
and that needs me to farm the black tusk and hyena tactical assesments
I was tired of hunter fury because I can't even reach 1 mill per bullet
while my friend can
pure estuary
okay. I mean thats good for you but my HF build isn't that strong yet
it was easier for me to put together that sniper build ngl
I need to optimise my coyote mask and my gun
subtle bluff
Hotshot is easy to build.
pure estuary
my damage isn't alot for some reason. I get like 800k damage per bullet at max stacks
subtle bluff
But you have the parts to do HH HF just fine.
pure estuary
my friend got 1.2 mil somehow
I already have a HF build bro. I just like the sniper build more
subtle bluff
You have DTooC??
subtle bluff
That's why then
pure estuary
im following this.
why do people recommend the spreadsheet if it is not optimised?
subtle bluff
Ya Raucey guide
pure estuary
wdym?
subtle bluff
all of your weapons should have DTooC
pure estuary
it says the damage to target out of cover should be the third attribute
subtle bluff
why do people recommend the spreadsheet if it is not optimised?
Just showing. The damage different from being perfectly optimised semi isn't crazy big.
subtle bluff
it says the damage to target out of cover should be the third attribute
You said otherwise...
pure estuary
bro im so confused. it doesnt say anywhere to go DTOOC
I read the whole thing already
red island
bro im so confused. it doesnt say anywhere to go DTOOC
its on gear, not on weapon
you cant have dttooc on gear except fox prayer
pure estuary
I see. Okay thanks.
if I change all my gear to DTOOC I can't get 50% crit chance lol
subtle bluff
What are you trying to build a Striker or a 1 HS build?
red island
you CANT change your gear to dttooc
pure estuary
okay thanks.
subtle bluff
I was asking if you had it on the weapon or not.
IDK how we go to CHC and CHD when were taling about HS builds.
pure estuary
should I go intimidate or obliterate?
subtle bluff
STOP.. What are you building.
pure estuary
Hunters fury
subtle bluff
and asking advice for.
red island
should I go intimidate or obliterate?
dude just follow the build on spreadsheet nothing else
subtle bluff
Ok.. What kind of HF are you trying to do?
pure estuary
striker build. ur the one that said HH sucks bro. and that I should go HF
red island
you're asking question that have no purpose
pure estuary
dude just follow the build on spreadsheet nothing else
thats what I frekaing did. this guy is confusing me its not my fault
red island
no he asked the right question you just confused gear and weapon
pure estuary
Ok.. What kind of HF are you trying to do?
idk. the simplest one and easiest to farm. I already followed the spreadsheet
subtle bluff
thats what I frekaing did. this guy is confusing me its not my fault
The one you read is for Strikers...
......
pure estuary
I didn't ask for striker. u said I should go Hunters fury build
after I asked about HH originally
red island
idk. the simplest one and easiest to farm. I already followed the spreadsheet
just follow the spreadsheet
thats it
pure estuary
I got dtooc on my weapon on hh
pure estuary
just follow the spreadsheet
I already did that.
pure estuary
I wasn't asking you anything bro.
ur the one that told me to go HF because I was asking about my HH build
subtle bluff
Yeah. Go HF with HSD since you're using 1886.
red island
man
subtle bluff
IDK I thought I gave a simple answer.
red island
just stop
subtle bluff
Naw. Last one. Keep it easier.
shy willow
Sir get those blues off immediately
subtle bluff
murrr lazy
hazy steeple
I keep seeing that backpack brandset lately on the most random builds.
Is it bugged or something?
red island
idk but its scary
hazy steeple
15% mag size doesn't really seem all that crazy worth it.
I guess if you don't need the crit, what else are you going to use.
red island
i'd use a brand to get weapon damage
or crit damage
cause why wouldnt you need crit
or headshot damage idk, just not mag size
hazy steeple
The thing is, I see it a lot on Strikers setups. Wat.
Since when is more innate CHC not useful?
If it's just a boredom thing, sure why not.
shy willow
Normally if people run Zwia it's either the 2 piece or the named gloves
frozen hull
@hazy steeple so I got rid of that ninja backpack on my refractor build we discussed a few weeks ago .. lol yeah it’s much better with out the ninja
I put the Hana force multiplier on there which I already had and then I’m using the waveform holster … 4 piece refractor including the chest all skill dmg and skill haste (mostly cause I couldn’t think of a to better) and it’s really good
gloomy spruce
Naw. Last one. Keep it easier.
Same Idea, but everything is weirder:
I have a variant that uses Hollow man instead of punch drunk
All headshot and weapon handling.
Total meme build
The 1886 Reload speed is below 2 seconds with a 9 round mag
hoary sail
I put the Hana force multiplier on there which I already had and then I’m using ...
u can put a hana u chest with skill dmg, skill haste nd glass canon. More dmg more heal u will have
urban latch
There's two main ways to run HF. The crit setup mainly with smgs, and the headhunter setup with the regulus/determined magnum, shotguns, and also the 1886 is a very good option on there. That's what chow was suggesting.
There's also a 1886 specific setup in here
https://lite.evernote.com/note/ee351aec-69d7-ae1d-ecfd-b79c6d55fd20
subtle bluff
Sir get those blues off immediately
Also I remember why. From taking backup calls with modifiers and always catching fire.... I but ya I need to take them off.
I just threw up a picture. It's not the right stuff on it too for everyone.
nimble pilot
Good capacitor build
gloomy spruce
Good capacitor build
Are you wanting a good capacitor build or are you commenting on someone else's?
red island
should i change the chest and mask?
is it pvp or pve ?
leaden swift
well im not sure if pvp is worth it for me atm im lvl 75
im working on getting an exotic AR but i have legit no luck
red island
then get a grupo chest with obliterate instead, also change your glove to something with crit
you should aim to get 50% crit chance and everything else to crit damage
leaden swift
ok thank you
mellow elm
Is the MR set good with Dread Edict?
red island
not really
mellow elm
Ah okay, thank you.
bleak mica
@leaden swift Im also trying to get exotic AR you wanna farm together?
jade bane
how many stats(damage, armor, health) I need to solo Tidal Basin (Legendary) ?
red island
you'll get oneshot with that build
i dont think you can solo tidal bassin
especially not with bk striker
jade bane
I only get to shred Elite's armor and then I died. hahaha
red island
called it
jade bane
I build my gears around my Bullet King since that the only good exotic I have. I'm grinding for exotic but I keep getting duplicates
magic pilot
then get a grupo chest with obliterate instead, also change your glove to someth...
Ceska*
red island
I build my gears around my Bullet King since that the only good exotic I have. I...
if your build isnt perfect, you def cant do legendaries alone
just farm better gear on countdown challenging
magic pilot
I did legendary solo with this
No expertise, not fully optimized and shd watch not max
red island
I did legendary solo with this
tidal bassin ?
magic pilot
DUA
red island
yeah, thats def not the same
the 3 turret at the end of tidal bassin are way harder than dua
dua is a walk in a park compared to this
magic pilot
You would just run pfe in the last room
Same build throughout the whole mission till the last area
red island
pfe wont save you from 3 turret that obliterate you on the spot
red island
3 pfe is like 36% damage resistance, and our tank was almost obliterated with 4 times the armor and pfe on his build
and there isnt just turret, there are all the grenadiers, drone operators, chungas, etc
which spawn endlessly until all turrets are dead
red island
you cant say skill issue when numbers dont match
onyx sage
the turrets don't count as elite
red island
a tank with pfe being destroyed mean a not tank with pfe will get obliterated
onyx sage
but every enemy is elite
red island
lol even worse
quiet arrow
rate plss
onyx sage
if you know how to rush to the right generator and kill it, you can hold out in that corner
magic pilot
The Turrets are extremely easy to destroy if you know what you are doing
quiet arrow
find a better chest, otherwise good build
strikers chestplate?
red island
strikers chestplate?
no, get crit stats on both, not yellow
jade bane
Does MODS only available to Helmet,Bag, and Chest?
red island
Does MODS only available to Helmet,Bag, and Chest?
yes
onyx sage
I build my gears around my Bullet King since that the only good exotic I have. I...
you don't need an exotic weapon to be strong btw
i soloed master with no exotics no expertise
magic pilot
Most exotics are not best for dmg
red island
except ouro
red island
it has the highest base damage ?
jade bane
When I started playing I only look at the Core Attri. Weapon Damage. hahaha
onyx sage
smg-9 with measured go brrr
magic pilot
it has the highest base damage ?
And no talent
And it doesn't have the highest base dmg it has the highest base dps
quiet arrow
no, get crit stats on both, not yellow
alr now rate 1-10
red island
thats what i mean when i say base damage
otherwise it would be nemesis every single time
magic pilot
That's not the same though
onyx sage
alr now rate 1-10
7/10
onyx sage
thats what i mean when i say base damage
base damage within smg is what we understand
magic pilot
Not interchange terminology
red island
That's not the same though
yes it is, people dont recommend nemesis for striker cause of its base damage
red island
suggestions?
ceska chest
onyx sage
suggestions?
use ceska instead of fenris for chest
quiet arrow
alr
red island
im saying base damage, not damage per bullet
magic pilot
That's also not the same
red island
base damage = damage per bullet x rpm
onyx sage
base damage is the literal constant the game has
red island
you know reload is a thing right ?
onyx sage
cause you forgot reload
you know what was getting to
red island
look who's wrong now
onyx sage
if you want to talk burst vs sustained we can but i'm making it simple
red island
saying "you know what i mean"
onyx sage
????
there is literally the thing called base damage
it's the one constant that every gun has
don't redefine it to suit your narrative
magic pilot
No lol
red island
damage per minute = damage per bullet × rpm
yes right here
onyx sage
okay if you want to be pedantic, damage per minute (ignoring reload) = damage per bullet × rpm
red island
you cant ignore reload
onyx sage
yes you can
red island
unless bk, no
onyx sage
because some situations you do not reload
you can just do it in one mag, as you just said
different metrics for different use cases
onyx sage
go and ask any other theorycrafter and see if they agree with your definition of "base damage"
red island
do you think they agree you dont reload ingame ?
red island
damage per minute = damage per bullet × rpm
thats what you did tho
onyx sage
okay you can be pedantic all you want
red island
im not
im applying to you the same rethoric you did to me
dont like it ? dont do it
onyx sage
how do you define the number that a weapon does in one bullet?
red island
said it before : damage per bullet
onyx sage
okay what if it crits?
red island
damage per bullet on crit
onyx sage
okay what if it hits a head?
red island
damage per bullet on headshot
onyx sage
okay what if it's on diamondback?
red island
do you see a pattern now ?
onyx sage
no, do you see the pattern?
red island
yes
onyx sage
it's context
red island
not really
onyx sage
"damage per bullet" without any context is open to interpretation
red island
there is no context here
onyx sage
what's the user's weapon damage? what's their crit?
red island
thats why i said base damage, not 6 red core damage
onyx sage
if you ask anyone's "damage per bullet" for the same gun you'll get different numbers because they don't understand what the context is
onyx sage
see, i'm not
magic pilot
It's entirely build dependent
onyx sage
i'm not even saying it's on gear or weapon
and you just interpreted it on your own
see the problem?
magic pilot
No one is using a build with no additional stats
Also burst dps is measured with no reload speed taken into account
red island
It's entirely build dependent
yes, thats why we compare weapon with each other on the same build, not on different build
onyx sage
which is... context
red island
which is the same
blazing notch
hey folks, is the optimization cache worth?
red island
With different weapons and gear
litterally said its same gear
versed summit
hey folks, is the optimization cache worth?
Not really
blazing notch
I seem to be struggling with those mats
red island
you dont compare different weapons with different builds
onyx sage
we can compare different builds
magic pilot
litterally said its same gear
And I'm saying not, so how would you measure
blazing notch
How do I farm them?
magic pilot
you dont compare different weapons with different builds
Wdym I do it all the time
red island
And I'm saying not, so how would you measure
bruh, if you compare different build and different weapon, then nemesis is the highest base damage, thats it
no comparison
magic pilot
You are the one stuck on base dmg lol
red island
im following your logic
onyx sage
redefining terms, ignoring context, isn't that what we do as rigorous theorycrafters?
red island
i told that at the beginning, you refused, now you explain more your logic, and it still apply
magic pilot
No one measures base dmg, its burst dps and sustain, one shot dmg is really only for HHing
Your original argument is Ouro is the highest dps smg, because it has the highest base dps. Which is incorrect. It has the highest base but is not the highest dps smg
red island
Your original argument is Ouro is the highest dps smg, because it has the highes...
see, you could just have started with that
magic pilot
I did.
red island
instead of being pedantic all the way
onyx sage
you redefining what "base damage" is doesn't help
red island
i didnt
versed summit
How do I farm them?
Depends on which mats you need. Control points are good for the flags/field recons.
Bounties are good for the tactical assessments just make sure you’re farming the correct faction.
Shd calibration/clipboard are kinda hard to get, so getting it from your watch /countdown/projects
The rest are from deconstructing gear
magic pilot
You said Ouro has highest base dmg, which is not correct
onyx sage
I'm sure someone else can say whether you did or not
onyx sage
you redifined base dps
no, it doesn't have all the context you desperately want me to attach
magic pilot
Which are different things
red island
so either you know what i mean, or you dont play that card
you cant have it both ways
onyx sage
no, i don't know what you mean
magic pilot
You are using the wrong terminology lol
red island
no, i don't know what you mean
then dont pretend i do
onyx sage
because i leave it up to interpretation
magic pilot
No one knows what you mean
onyx sage
there are correct interpretations
red island
not your interpretation of base dps
onyx sage
if everyone attaches all the qualifiers in their language when talking about something, we would still be monkeys
red island
didnt you said something about being rigorous just before ?
onyx sage
or you could grow a pair and begin to take into account context
yes, not everything has to be spelled out
red island
or is that just me that need to be rigorous and you can do whatever you want its fine when you do, but not when i do ?
onyx sage
because i assume you're a grown adult who can read context
red island
i also read double standards
magic pilot
It's not a double standard
onyx sage
i think i'm done, the point is all over the floor
red island
it is
magic pilot
That's how burst is calculated lol
red island
thats not what he said
magic pilot
You are talking about sustain when you talk about reload
red island
he said dpm
magic pilot
Dps- means burst dps usually unless you specify
red island
i didnt say dps
onyx sage
damage per minute = damage per bullet × rpm
most people who know what i'm talking about immediately understand this as burst dps
magic pilot
Dpm/60s is burst dps lol
mint axle
can you guys stop arguing and move along already?
red island
Dpm/60s is burst dps lol
yeah but thats not what he said
solar sable
can we hug?
red island
see, double standard, you use the wrong words
magic pilot
Because everyone understands how to find dps from dpm lmao
red island
nobody talk about dps
onyx sage
yap yap yap
red island
nope, thats why reloads are a thing
magic pilot
That's sustain dps
red island
thats my whole point
red island
That's sustain dps
then he is wrong
magic pilot
Sure if that's how you understand it
red island
no, thats how maths work
shy willow
the damage formulae are already established
magic pilot
I'll end the conversation here, next time you spread misinformation I'll be here to correct you like always
red island
im the one correcting averageplayer
next time dont talk about sustain dps without reload
onyx sage
no one appreciates it anyways
red island
glad we can sort this out
torn raven
could someone give me advice on a good pvp build
magic pilot
could someone give me advice on a good pvp build
Check the pinned guides
urban latch
nope, thats why reloads are a thing
Omfg......
red island
lmao
urban latch
Please I beg you... Look into what these terms mean...
red island
not the point i made
urban latch
What you were looking for there was sustain DPS. It's been explained to you over and over, but what your calling base damage is burst damage. Terms mean things so we can communicate
urban latch
not the point i made
I read the whole thing. You made an incorrect statement then doubled down on incorrect terms.
urban latch
Yes
urban latch
Can you get me the base damage of literally any gun?
urban latch
We're starting at the most basic point here and working up
urban latch
There is no lower...
red island
yes there is : maths
urban latch
There is no math for this answer
urban latch
There is not for base damage. It's a number directly from the game, and a term used by the game
red island
no, its a term used for any game, not just the division, doesnt require numbers yet
rich lotus
Raucey don’t bother bruh ðŸ˜
red island
you're so far from the point i made, its gonna take days
urban latch
no, its a term used for any game, not just the division, doesnt require numbers ...
Very specifically the game uses the term base damage. Can you get me the base damage of literally any gun?
red island
stop dodging
urban latch
Can you get in the game right now?
red island
no i cant get in the game right now, and it doesnt matter, stop dodging my point
urban latch
Exactly what point are you trying to make
red island
double standards
rich lotus
The point in question:
Reminds me of Fog of War
When he made that hilarious DPS math video and said EB has best burst DPS cause of its reload speed ðŸ˜
urban latch
So you've got no point your trying to make here...
red island
already made it
urban latch
Cool. Can you get me the base damage of literally any gun?
urban latch
DM me when you can
urban latch
What double standard lol
red island
the one i talked about the entire time
rich lotus
That’s not the POINT Raucey
red island
it is
rich lotus
the one i talked about the entire time
BRO JUST SAY IT
red island
i tried, you intantly jump to ask me base dps of a weapon
rich lotus
If its that obvious please tell us because gaslighting is just sad
urban latch
I might be confused, are you using the typical definition of a double standard or one you made up?
urban latch
i tried, you intantly jump to ask me base dps of a weapon
I'm trying to start at the absolute basics, and work up to these other terms
red island
I might be confused, are you using the typical definition of a double standard o...
does it matter since you made up the answer in your mind anyway ?
not like we were starting from the sane base
urban latch
I'm trying to teach you something here
rich lotus
You are impossible to have a conversation with
red island
I'm trying to teach you something here
so am i, yet you dont seem to understand im not inferior to you
rich lotus
Safe to just say you’re dodging cause you know you’re wrong
red island
stop talking like im stupid and listen to what i say
red island
i made my point, you completely dodged it
then started to ask me about base damage
then you expect me to act as if everything is normal
rich lotus
So you felt insulted that Raucey wanted to take it from the basics to understand something?
red island
no
rich lotus
Yes obviously
red island
ok bud
echo fox
Anyone got a good starter build for countdown?
I have a build but I was told strike drone and turret skill build was a no no
rich lotus
Striker
versed summit
Anyone got a good starter build for countdown?
I have a build but I was told st...
Striker build will work well
there's a good guide in the pinned spreadsheet
rich lotus
Yellow striker with turrent drone!!
echo fox
What's the best way to farm that? Only shd lvl 100ish so my DPS for challenging is a bit lacking. And hard is slow to farm ðŸ˜
onyx sage
Well looks like that’s the end of that!
you have to define what "inferior" means too...
rich lotus
Best way to farm is to do Countdown lol. Just do it on challenging and let others carry
versed summit
What's the best way to farm that? Only shd lvl 100ish so my DPS for challenging ...
just don’t bring damage skills and they can carry you till you get a decent dps build going
rich lotus
Oh they’re a no no for a lot of reasons but yeah that’s one of them
solar token
but yeah you don't really need a super optimized build for countdown. 8 players plus pretty significant buffs make it pretty manageable
echo fox
I love my capacitor refractor build though 😦
But gotta adapt for different stuff. I knew I'd have to build something different eventually
versed summit
that's part of the fun of the game, getting to make different builds for different content
rich lotus
Learning the right way 🥹
echo fox
Is there a website I can find a list of what I need for a striker build? I have a st Elmo assault rifle
rich lotus
Hit the search icon and go to pins in this channel
versed summit
Is there a website I can find a list of what I need for a striker build? I have ...
there's a guide in the pinned spreadhseet
rich lotus
Assuming you’re on mobile
echo fox
I'm playing on my tablet lol
rich lotus
Oh!
echo fox
Cloud gaming through xbox
echo fox
I get lag every now and then but over all it's amazing
solar token
got another question about the way this is laid out
for all of the gear pieces, is it required for each piece to be specifically the brand mentioned?
for example, does the chestpiece specifically need to be grupo? or could it be any of the other 4 brands used here?
bc the brand set bonuses will be the same right? so the important thing is the right attributes and talents
vivid timber
for example, does the chestpiece specifically need to be grupo? or could it be a...
ye u can swap em around
dense echo
What's the best way to farm that? Only shd lvl 100ish so my DPS for challenging ...
GCROCK has a countdown video on the YouTubes that I found invaluable as a new player. Made it way less intimidating going in knowing what to expect from the encounter and what most other players expectations.
Because of Countdown I went from getting carried to actually being a productive agent.
versed summit
for example, does the chestpiece specifically need to be grupo? or could it be a...
only the named items are locked
solar token
right
vivid timber
was just gonna say that ;p
solar token
ok, that makes this slightly less painful of a process
vivid timber
that groupo chest is so painful to find still looking for mine ...
solar token
same lol
i found one that's otherwise perfect except it has vanguard instead of unbreakable
vivid timber
the bag u can get away with by just slappin on talent
dense echo
GCROCK has a countdown video on the YouTubes that I found invaluable as a new pl...
Generally you want to match make on challenging and just follow the highest SHD level person on you team (stay with the group) and DO NOT use Assault Skill (e.g. Turrets and drones) because they will get hacked and used against you. And DO NOT call for the Evac chopper (let another agent call for Evac with about 10 seconds left.)
solar token
tempted to say that's close enough, but unbreakable seems like one of the more important pieces of that build
vivid timber
yh ubreak is needed ;[
carmine spindle
Trying to find a good ouroboros build but can’t find one
vivid timber
pvp or e?
carmine spindle
What’s it better in??
I have a decent big horn regen build for pvp so maybe pve
vivid timber
from my experience its decent in both but i dont use it often lol ill share the pve one anyway
carmine spindle
Is the ouroboros bad?
vivid timber
this what i use
carmine spindle
Damn
versed summit
Is the ouroboros bad?
it's still good
carmine spindle
Good or should I use something else that’s better?
Cuz I just got it yesterday so I was thinking to make a build but if it’s that too great then scratch it
vivid timber
its pretty fun in pve tbh u can just slap it in with hb or striker easy
cinder creek
lvl 1 guy here, i got a question...are sniper builds viable for endgame content ? i jkust came over from div 1 and i dont want to play another striker build
red island
lvl 1 guy here, i got a question...are sniper builds viable for endgame content ...
yes, its one of the strongest setup
carmine spindle
The only thing that sucks is I’m hitting 1.3 mil full striker stack with st Elmo but same build but with ouroboros I’m only hitting 400k
cinder creek
yes, its one of the strongest setup
cool...i need to unlock my 1st skill, what should i go for as a sniper ?
red island
cool...i need to unlock my 1st skill, what should i go for as a sniper ?
dont bother until you're lvl 40, thats not until a while, and you have much to unlock until then
until then, you gonna change gear and weapon every few lvl
vivid timber
cool...i need to unlock my 1st skill, what should i go for as a sniper ?
as he said dw till lv 40 but this is the sort of builds most guys run
urban latch
Until you get a chest with the headhunter talent, don't worry about snipers
red island
yeah everything rely on headhunter talent
cinder creek
Until you get a chest with the headhunter talent, don't worry about snipers
im just tired of running and guning on div 1 😄
red island
i mean skill builds are a thing too
but yeah striker is still the best thing overall cause it adapts to almost everything
grand nimbus
Requesting suggestions, looking for some gearset that allows high survivability.
mystic linden
I just got the game recently and I seen a lot of hunter fury build with SMG, so what is the best place to farm hunter fury?
jovial bison
I just got the game recently and I seen a lot of hunter fury build with SMG, so ...
id either decent or summit with targeted loot set to hunters fury
subtle bluff
Requesting suggestions, looking for some gearset that allows high survivability.
HF or HB.
subtle bluff
Hunter Fury or Heartbreaker
grand nimbus
Got it, thank you!
Any particular reason why?
red island
cause they give sustain/shield
subtle bluff
Look in the Pinned Messages
Also just having survivability isn't great in this game. Things need to died.
light bobcat
should ichange crit hit dmg to weapon handling for 1 shot build?
subtle bluff
Weapon Handling
old wind
Hey guys, returning player here. Any good source of solid builds?
grand nimbus
Question
Does the Pulse effect proc Vindictive?
magic pilot
Question
Does the Pulse effect proc Vindictive?
no, pulse is not a status
grand nimbus
no, pulse is not a status
Thank you so much!
magic pilot
Thank you so much!
ofc
jade bane
I don't understand the Pulse. specially the attachment of technician, is just like Ping or Marking your enemy?
magic pilot
I don't understand the Pulse. specially the attachment of technician, is just li...
Essentially yes
The reason it's useful is because an overcharged pulse gives you a huge dmg amplification, and can be used to proc flatline/spotter
also see enemies through walls
jade bane
The reason it's useful is because an overcharged pulse gives you a huge dmg ampl...
Ohh. I see.
But I stay away from skill/technician build when I experienced emp every floor in summit. Hahahaha
bright raptor
use Technician + Spotter on a regular weapon DPS build with a weapon that accepts the Technician laser and has Flatline rolled
it does restrict weapon choices but it's very competitive in terms of damage
subtle bluff
use Technician + Spotter on a regular weapon DPS build with a weapon that accept...
The issue with this with AR is that losing CHC makes you have to stats into more CHC and takes away from CHD which overall yes you're getting more DMG but it does mess with the build.
IMO if I'm on HB with this I just got Measured to help build more stacks a lil more quickly.
livid rover
should ichange crit hit dmg to weapon handling for 1 shot build?
Where did you find that. I need that chain killer
solar sable
Where did you find that. I need that chain killer
just W&H TL
livid rover
W&H target loot is not anywhere at the moment
Checked NYC too and no TL for right now. Will check in 9 hours again
solar sable
W&H target loot is not anywhere at the moment
matchmake countdown
burnt gate
Do you have a source for this?
worn mango
Me
worn mango
Yeah I made that during the last big update
Just takes the rank of burst, sustain and attachments and weighted average to whatever you use
winter rune
guys what should i do if i want my status effects to go through my enemies' armor, cuz they just dont
shy willow
guys what should i do if i want my status effects to go through my enemies' armo...
You cant
The only way to bypass armour is poison iirc but there's like only 1 or 2 way# to apply it and it's weak asf
winter rune
dang, thanks
warm merlin
Do you think this is good enough to do a run of paradise lost?
soft forge
Show the stats
solar sable
Do you think this is good enough to do a run of paradise lost?
yeah, looks fine
warm merlin
You sure? I don't wanna be a burden on my team
solar sable
are your crits ~50/~110?
warm merlin
are your crits ~50/~110?
Maybe? I don't have perfect stats on everything but they're all decently high
solar sable
Maybe? I don't have perfect stats on everything but they're all decently high
yeah I know, don't worry, just make sure to follow the team and beam everything that moves except the Lovebirds area, they'll tell you what to do
warm merlin
I just feel like I'm gonna die too easily and make us wipe a bunch
The mechanics are easy
solar sable
I just feel like I'm gonna die too easily and make us wipe a bunch
DPS doesn't need survivability, you mostly need to kill everything
warm merlin
I'll try my best
Hopefully I can find a team
I was thinking of swapping the chest piece and gloves manufacture
solar sable
no need, that's a good setup
warm merlin
Kk, wish me luck then hope it goes well tomorrow
mild sundial
Do you think this is good enough to do a run of paradise lost?
This not a bad build at all for your shd Level. Just make sure you keep focusing on getting the maximum chc and chd for you. And not to mention weapon damage and specialization
warm merlin
Chc and chd?
solar sable
short for crit chance and crit dmg
solar sable
just as fine
warm merlin
Thx for the help
subtle bluff
Generally Striker Chest is better for Incursion
urban latch
Do you think this is good enough to do a run of paradise lost?
You'll want strikers chest. Backfire is very strong tanker onwards, and bloody knuckles is huge for the bosses
magic pilot
Bloody knuckles if you have it too
warm merlin
I have 3 exotic amour pieces, 2 are ass and the other is Coyote's mask
I've only been playing this game for like a week
magic pilot
Didn't we just have this conversation in another discord lol
warm merlin
Probably
I just like to double check
I got a strikers chest
So I'm good for that part
subtle bluff
Didn't we just have this conversation in another discord lol
I was thinking of that..
Why does happen more often these days.
onyx sage
y'all getting old
magic pilot
y'all getting old
Same guy, got the same answers lol
subtle bluff
HEY...... I can still think age is a number
shy willow
👀
onyx sage
HEY...... I can still think age is a number
it really is
warm merlin
I'm just making sure, people giving me destiny 2 advice has made me doubt people sometimes
Sorry
solar sable
you can trust the average player
subtle bluff
We're not Destiny players at allll
warm merlin
you can trust the average player
Good to know
hexed steppe
at least there is a monopoly on good info for a couple of the biggest communities
magic pilot
I'm just making sure, people giving me destiny 2 advice has made me doubt people...
Chow is top 10 for most incursion clears in the world
hexed steppe
you can trust the average player
idk, he loves determined now 👴
magic pilot
Average player is a top speedrunner don't let the name fool you
warm merlin
I guess being a game that doesn't get a lot of major content weeds out the bad and toxic players
subtle bluff
Chow is top 10 for most incursion clears in the world
🥲 don't need to remind me of my pain I did to myself.
shy willow
I guess being a game that doesn't get a lot of major content weeds out the bad a...
Nah not really tbh
hexed steppe
more like toxic players get humbled here.. pretty quickly
onyx sage
there's a lot of casual players in this game's playerbase. that's not a bad thing in itself, it's just when they start giving advice to other gullible players that issues arise
sorry, "advice"
subtle bluff
We like helping and teaching or at least point you in the right direction.
AT the least... Some don't understand that.
magic pilot
there's a lot of casual players in this game's playerbase. that's not a bad thin...
Just because you don't understand how base dmg works doesn't mean it's bad advice sir
solar sable
sorry, "advice"
5pc improv and nbb is an example
subtle bluff
...................................
onyx sage
it boosts ALL brands in the game sir
solar sable
lmaooo
warm merlin
I was told in the official destiny discord to use double special in the big 2025 which is a crazy thing to say
So you can see why I double check but I trust y'all advice
subtle bluff
I learn the other day they have voice mod bots in some of there VC.
onyx sage
you should be double checking any of our words
warm merlin
I'll make some adjustments tomorrow and do my first run of paradise lost
onyx sage
we encourage that
warm merlin
Hope it goes well
magic pilot
I'll be around tomorrow if you end up needing an extra player
subtle bluff
Do it in GCrock and you'll find one of the few of us that'll help you and teach it to you.
solar sable
dammit I need a pc
warm merlin
I'll be around tomorrow if you end up needing an extra player
I'm UK so I don't know if out time zones will line up well
subtle bluff
Theirs a lot of us all around the world.
warm merlin
dammit I need a pc
No pc in the big 25
hexed steppe
dammit I need a pc
yeah you do.. gonna need to start a gofund me
warm merlin
Is there a video of the world's first clear of the raids?
onyx sage
there should be
subtle bluff
My next challenge to carry incursion on a steam deck.
warm merlin
Oh no
solar sable
No pc in the big 25
currently playing in a xpotato one
onyx sage
my next challenge is solo zoo no expertise no exotics
magic pilot
I'm UK so I don't know if out time zones will line up well
I'm cst, but I'm literally free the entire day tomorrow
karmic osprey
cst is 6 hours behind the uk
magic pilot
Is there a video of the world's first clear of the raids?
Raids or incursion?
warm merlin
Raids, I saw the first team got a picture in the white house right?
warm merlin
I'm cst, but I'm literally free the entire day tomorrow
I'll DM and see if you're free when I'm up
magic pilot
I'll DM and see if you're free when I'm up
Fs
magic pilot
Raids, I saw the first team got a picture in the white house right?
Yea I think they were live streamed
It took a long time
onyx sage
it's a big thing to be the first to beat them
warm merlin
I feel like that has to be a requirement to be worlds first right?
Otherwise what's just stopping people from cheating or something
warm merlin
Oh no
hexed steppe
was doing manning for project, just heroic, and been kinda running it a bit different for a little quicker clear. 3 runners for mop up and bomb setting, and i sit up top with eclipse presetting spawns to burn... had some dude try staying up top with oxpecker... was kinda comical seeing that ring laser hitting nothing
onyx sage
yep was gonna talk about that
magic pilot
There's some serious raid lore
warm merlin
Do people think the world's first team cheated?
hexed steppe
werent the raid details prereleased
onyx sage
they got insider info yes
hexed steppe
to a few
magic pilot
They were streamers with very detailed google doc with how to beat it
Incursion, as far as I'm aware didn't have any mechanics leaked
onyx sage
tbh i doubt devs had such a doc in the first olace
magic pilot
Although I have no idea how they actually intended the lovers fight because it seems like it would've been insanely hard
hexed steppe
the speedruns for either are a lot more impressive for me , as opposed to first clears
onyx sage
i remember raucey trying to ask devs or something
magic pilot
They will never admit to it
warm merlin
they got insider info yes
I'm sorry what
magic pilot
Widdz I think was the one who leaked it
warm merlin
That should be grounds for immediate disqualification
magic pilot
He was banned for a year or something like that
And his runs were removed from LB iirc
warm merlin
Did they get the prize or was it given to the real worlds first?
karmic osprey
Raids, I saw the first team got a picture in the white house right?
There is a picture going towards the clan hall of the white house of the team
Same for iron horse
warm merlin
That's pretty cool
karmic osprey
One name is in both pictures and thats solidfps
warm merlin
Hopefully I enjoy the raids, anyway I'm gonna sleep now, thanks for the help
magic pilot
Hopefully I enjoy the raids, anyway I'm gonna sleep now, thanks for the help
Sleep tight
warm merlin
Thanks
blissful orbit
as an old player returning looking to make a new red set for general use whats the go to high end dps set nowadays?
subtle bluff
Nothing really has changed for HE dps builds.
blissful orbit
Nothing really has changed for HE dps builds.
uh the last time i was active was like 2020 or something
my go to dps build was this. idk if its changed
tho i did see ppl rocking strikers or smth on yt
is that the meta now
blissful orbit
i assume i cant get the lvoa so whats the next best primary
subtle bluff
subtle bluff
tho i did see ppl rocking strikers or smth on yt
is that the meta now
care with most of the new video for this game. there's a too much content "creating" there
blissful orbit
yes im aware
thats why im here asking
whats the next best primary? lexington cant be obtained
unless reddit is wrong
karmic osprey
i want the ouro so bad
blissful orbit
ouro is new exotic smg right?
subtle bluff
Look in the Pinned Messages
blissful orbit
is running both viable?
subtle bluff
not new it's year old
blissful orbit
like running ar primary then ouro secondary
subtle bluff
Anything is viable tbf
karmic osprey
ouro is new exotic smg right?
ouro is the incursion exclusive exotic
blissful orbit
not new it's year old
well anything that came out in the last 3 years is prob new to me
subtle bluff
Like I said go check out the Pinned Messages and it'll catch you up
blissful orbit
my loadouts are a mess because i was speedrunning before i quit and now i dont know what the builds do at all lmao
subtle bluff
Yea my was as bad for IH speed too
blissful orbit
did they fix the leaderboards
subtle bluff
Yes?
blissful orbit
i logged in last year to take a peek and the boards were messed up
i still cant jump to myself
subtle bluff
ouro is the incursion exclusive exotic
Go to find the public discord easier to make groups there and learn.
blissful orbit
jump to me is greyed out
subtle bluff
They may have reset during your time?
blissful orbit
oh hmm
subtle bluff
I'm fairly new vs you
blissful orbit
wasnt aware they ever reseted
uh yeah the WR back then was like 19 mins and i had a 20 min time i think
my time was like top 20
i see they managed to cut it down to 14:52 now lol
um where do i go to farm the striker stuff
or what do i do
karmic osprey
summit is a good place to farm the gear cause you can change the targeted loot
blissful orbit
is it still floor 100 farming
karmic osprey
no clue i reset at floor 99
subtle bluff
i see they managed to cut it down to 14:52 now lol
yup they did... man it was nuts.
subtle bluff
um where do i go to farm the striker stuff
Summit and Countdown
You can target loot
karmic osprey
either one is better its personal preference
blissful orbit
i dont think that was a thing back then
karmic osprey
also what/where is countdown
blissful orbit
i guess i needa do the main mission first?
karmic osprey
i never did the mission
karmic osprey
theres hunters in the countdown
not like how it is in summit at floor 100 being hunters
subtle bluff
so i just hit g and mm heroic i take it?
No challenging. It's kind of a raid but not.
blissful orbit
yeah i think we used to just refarm floor 100 on repeat with nem and a&e build
subtle bluff
Heroic people will fail it because everything are bullet sponges.