td2-build-advice

[soft apex]

AGAIN I use the strikers build I was recommended to use by people HERE

[red island]

you dont know enough about the game to do legendary yet

[digital burrow]

Looking for some options/advice on a bld for lgnd mis with survivability and dps

Currently have half yellow/red with fixer drone for replenishing health. works decent.

Other ops im considering are high regen bld or artificer hive with sheild. Any thoughts?

[cerulean smelt]

nods strikers is a good set to run when you're under 1k shd level and working on getting your library filled out and getting stuff for a build you want

[soft apex]

This is typically the build I use

[digital burrow]

Oh yall discussing lgnd mis. Didn't even realize

[soft apex]

Because it's what I was told to use

[red island]

def not the build that is in the spreadsheet

[red island]

try checking the spreadsheet for builds

[soft apex]

I don't understand the spreadsheet I have no idea what I'm doing

[red island]

we explained that to you, all builds are there

[soft apex]

And trying to figure it out makes me appreciate the men and women that put men on the moon because DEAR GOD I could not have done it

[digital burrow]

@red island link pls

[cerulean smelt]

you click on the link on the right and it'll take you to another site where they'll explain the build and alternates for it

[red island]

check pinned message

[cerulean smelt]

pins "Link to spreadsheet 2"

[soft apex]

I feel like I could've done my calculus homework better using the division 2 as a calculator than actually using the tools my school gave me

[red island]

im pretty sure nobody here told u to use madbomber on chest

[soft apex]

So what is the recommended strikers build cause when I try to check in the sheet it just gives me something called evernote

That's ceska

[red island]

evernote is the page that explain the build

[soft apex]

Not mad bomber

[red island]

madbomber is the talent on the chest

[cerulean smelt]

no but probably what they had which is ceska and was able to change the chc/chd onto it

[red island]

ceska is the brand

[soft apex]

I can only do so much. I can't reroll a talent and a attribute which IS STUPID MIGHT I ADD

[red island]

then go farm another chest

like the rest of us

[cerulean smelt]

devs didn't want to make it too easy

[soft apex]

It took me 5 hours just to get the chest piece I have.

[red island]

lmao

wait until you need to find an actually hard to get piece

[cerulean smelt]

some probably go days

[red island]

and you get to wait weeks to find something

[soft apex]

I'm doing legendary once each. Never again after that.

[red island]

dont do legendary

[soft apex]

I WANT THE OUTFIT PIECES

[red island]

you dont even have a good build to do dps

[cerulean smelt]

the white tusk?

[red island]

you cant get the outfit with a bad build

people kick you cause of your build

[soft apex]

I hope Ubisoft gets bought out by tencent and then everyone of their shareholders get laid off so they can feel a minute amount of my pain.

[red island]

also you're not even shd 1k

bruh

do you want to play the game or do you only want rewards without doing any work ?

[cerulean smelt]

maybe division 2 isn't your game then?

[soft apex]

this is beyond overcomplicated for the sake of "Balance" when they just rebalance everything every season or few months.

[red island]

if you dont like the game, why u even play

[soft apex]

I DO LIKE IT THIUGH ITS JUST WHY MAKE A MILITARY GAME AN MMO THATS SO DUMB

[red island]

you dont like the builds, you dont like the difficulty, what do you like ?

[cerulean smelt]

not really an MMO

[red island]

then you dont like it ? cause its the way it is

also yeah its not mmo

[soft apex]

The story, the characters, the setting, I like everything that isn't the gameplay.

[red island]

then you dont like the game

you like the lore

there are plenty of other games with good lore

[soft apex]

Ubisoft has a weird obsession with making games into looter games that don't Need or should be looter games. Division was the start and it went downhill after.

[hazy steeple]

Enough with the whining.

It's been hours, dude.

At least do it in the right channel, this is #td2-build-advice

[soft apex]

I like the game I do. But the fact it's all gatekeeped behind this weird system is just so disheartening

I want to make a good build I want to use one but the fact I have to do all of this just to even scratch the surface? All without the game ever explaining any of this to me? How am I supposed to ever even know what I'm doing

How does anyone who doesn't have access to discord know how to do any of this?

[red island]

the game explain everythiung, there is a tutorial ingame

[hazy steeple]

Well, most of it is explained ingame, if you pay attention.

[red island]

thats how we learned about it

[hazy steeple]

Div2 is a math nerd's game, it's the big secret about this franchise.

It's fine if you don't understand, but just ask for help, we're more than happy to assist.

[red island]

like eve online is a big excel spreadsheet game

[soft apex]

Maybe that's why most people don't touch anything above challenging? I can't imagine several dozen thousand players all liking math to that degree.

[red island]

i like maths

[cerulean smelt]

i usually run on heroic

[red island]

i studied maths in college even

[hazy steeple]

The bulk of endgame players are actually in Heroic.

it's kinda the "Default" difficulty after a while.

Challenging is basically normal at this stage.

[steady copper]

unless you’re doing countdown*

[soft apex]

I like simple math. I cannot do anything above highschool levels and then I struggle badly. Im a history and socials studies person. So I'm sure you can imagine why I'm even partially upset that a game I love is essentially college level calculus with guns.

[hazy steeple]

When you can complete a mission by hip-firing, you know it's too easy on Chall'

[red island]

if you're bad at maths, just look for a premade builds in spreadsheet

so you dont have to do any calculus

[hazy steeple]

@steady copper Countdown is a unique situation, as it scales weirdly.

[soft apex]

I actually don't use the hip firing because so far as I've seen I have to be pretty close for it to work on my end.

[cerulean smelt]

i suck at maths, but i've used builds here and even attempted a few other builds not on the sheet and feel it's not that difficult

[red island]

just use the builds from the spreadsheet

its easy and fun

[hazy steeple]

I genuinely think someone is being murdered outside my building.
anyway, yeah just copy+paste the builds.

[soft apex]

I'm typically a tank in RPG games. That's why it upsets me that something I find really interesting as far as I've gathered from the rest of you is a steaming pile of spino shit (Jurassic Park reference.) and it's disheartening to say lightly.

[red island]

then get a tank build from the spreadsheet ?

there are 2

[vestal ibex]

Just make a tank build and do your thing.

[hazy steeple]

Copy an iKia build, he's got a bunch of weird stuff that you can kinda call "tank".

[cerulean smelt]

nods after i completed the master difficulty and got the exotic chest, i got a tankish kind of build. people don't like it but i think it did well enough

[soft apex]

I guess to work with I'll just transmog it. I dunno where I'm gonna find a team to play games with to make myself even somewhat useful or even capable of competing missions myself though.

[hazy steeple]

his youtube channel has a recent list, the spreadsheet is a bit old.

[red island]

just cause YOU cant make a tank build doesnt mean its impossible

[hazy steeple]

@soft apex #td2-clan-recruitment

[red island]

it just mean you gotta do something else

[hazy steeple]

#lfg-playstation

All the resources are there at your fingertips, just take advantage of them.

[soft apex]

But whenever I ask people here are there any good YouTube channels with builds I'm always told "No use the spreadsheet."

[cerulean smelt]

i've seen people throw out GCRock clan, they probably have a clan for each platform

[red island]

thats cause most youtube channels are clicbait

with bad builds

[hazy steeple]

As div2 is math heavy, the bulk of youtubers are, for want of a better word: dumb.

[soft apex]

I can tell considering I've tried a lot of builds from them which work for those people but then do nothing for me. Probably cause I'm typically solo

[soft apex]

I fit this category as well.

[cerulean smelt]

a lot of youtubers try to take the builds here, put in their twist

[hazy steeple]

If a channel has the word "ultimate", or "destroys", or "slay", with exclamation marks in the thumbnail: avoid them.

[soft apex]

Not the YouTuber part. Just that last word at the end there

[steady copper]

i feel like you’re targetting a certain kamikazedoom…

[onyx sage]

"god mode"

[red island]

again, if you want an easy build, spreadsheet

its the easy way

[soft apex]

Not usually the thumbnail does the actual names usually say something like "God mode, or something stupid"

[hazy steeple]

Anything like that yeah.

anything where they claim unkillable, or murder rampage, anything that a 14yr old would find cool.

[red island]

anything that sound clickbait ? probably is

[cerulean smelt]

his voice annoys me honestly

[hazy steeple]

The mix of languages in the name annoys me.

like, pick a lane.

[red island]

im a botlaner

[steady copper]

also the youtube intro in the middle of the video confuses me

[soft apex]

I'll see what a good tank build is and work from there. If that doesn't work out I'll just stick to challenging or lower cause I'm just probably not cut out for it. I'm a collector I want to collect everything I can. I did all the work of killing every DAMN HUNTER in this game. I've trudged this map for close to 600 hours not even 1/6th of which was new York. And I still have no idea what I'm doing in this game.

Thank you Ubisoft for making wonderful yet confusing games for the average person

[red island]

there is still 1 more hunter nobody gfound out yet

[hazy steeple]

Div2 is a marathon, you aren't really meant to sprint through it.
Taking 1000 hours to learn the game is 100% viable.

[soft apex]

Is heartbreaker on the spreadsheet?

[red island]

wait was it found yet ?

[cerulean smelt]

my favorites are the people "what can i build to do 1 shot kills?"

[soft apex]

Isn't that just something one of the devs said that hasn't been proven yet? Considering they show no evidence of such a thing.

[hazy steeple]

@red island Doesn't exist, Yannick stared directly at the camera and refused to blink.

[red island]

oh

mybad then

[hazy steeple]

Daria blinked a lot, lol.

[red island]

lmao

[soft apex]

I wish the hunter masks could be worn with hoods on. Since you can do that in the real world

I find this acceptable.

[cerulean smelt]

yes, that would be nice

[soft apex]

Maybe division 3 will finally fix the small things.

[cerulean smelt]

i doubt it unless ubisoft doesn't make it

[soft apex]

Anyway. So is heartbreaker in the tank section? I'm guessing as a Regen tank?

Tencent owns about half of them so they might be funding a lot of games in the future if they can buy out enough of the company.

Tencent despite its horrible monetization practices does fund and develop A LOT of good titles. That are only fundamentally ruined by cheaters.

Anyway

[cerulean smelt]

hardest part heartbreaker for me, i don't want to worry about being techinician and finding that weapon that lets you use the laser pointer attachment on it. sure i can hit the head to pulse, but i tend to miss heads so it don't work for me XD

[soft apex]

Is there any build where the LVOA rifle is viable? I'm hoping heartbreaker's but if not I'll compromise.

[worn mango]

Lexi still king but closed the gap a smidge

[soft apex]

Aw daen

[cerulean smelt]

probably could use the heartbreaker as long as you can put the laser pointer on it

[worn mango]

Well build stacks with shotgun and then use whatever has flatline

[soft apex]

Which one?

[soft apex]

What's flatline?

[red island]

a talent

[soft apex]

Hold on the game booted me to the menu I got a look

[cerulean smelt]

talent where you do more damage to pulsed targets

[worn mango]

What's pulsed targets though

[soft apex]

So should I have pulse equipped?

[red island]

with flatline, yes

[soft apex]

Pulse is typically my go to.

[cerulean smelt]

that's what you need for heartbreaker

[hazy steeple]

If you want a really easy way to pulse enemies, go for Kingbreaker.
It's a stupidly common drop in Countdown.

[soft apex]

I do have flatline

I do

I have two

Is that better than precision strike?

Or perpetuation?

Oh. Perfect

[red island]

@soft apex remember to farm for another chest piece btw

[cerulean smelt]

perpetuation is if you have a status effect build, usually fire as it's one of the more effective statuses

[boreal ingot]

Make you wanna see them buff other status like bleed

[cerulean smelt]

striker is the same mechanic but you don't need to pulse and you don't get the tanky part. which is why it's always recommended

[boreal ingot]

Though if you can't maintain high stack all the time like enemy die so fast then some brand set that buff your crit and your weapon might be better but in high end, striker probably superior choice

[cerulean smelt]

it's just basically the best thing for a fresh 40 to get and be able to find them pieces to throw into thier library and then go from striker to other builds

[boreal ingot]

yeo difinitely that.

easy to farm and massive boost to dmg

[worn mango]

Just run Hunter's Fury or Ongoing Directive, no need to keep stacks up

Almost no scenario in open world where you'll be able to maintain them effectively

[cerulean smelt]

well, hunter's fury requires one to be in close range so it'll be hard to tell a fresh 40, don't take cover and run up close to do the thing

[worn mango]

But go go brrttt

And it has built in health and armor regen

[boreal ingot]

since when hunter fury regen?

[cerulean smelt]

always with every "kill"

[boreal ingot]

oh armor on kill not regen 😛

[cerulean smelt]

yeah armor and health on kill

[boreal ingot]

Try close build but hate shield playstyle i hate those screen shaking and unable to turn effectively or hit another people with shield so I change it to decoy instead XD

[cerulean smelt]

i'm post 1k shd and i still struggle with hunter's fury since i'm trying to get close enough for the full hunter fury talent to take effect

[soft apex]

I mean my obtuse striker build worked in the raids thats what made me think it was good. Ill read the sheet and grab what's necessary for heartbreakers

I'm guessing it'll be in the Regen tank build section since it's all about gaining armor back no?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say try them all. learn mechanics of the game and eventually you might find a way to make the True Patriot work for you

[soft apex]

Speaking honestly unless they buff it I don't see that happening

[boreal ingot]

For me currently I enjoy Sniper/ 1886 Rifle 1 shot when Solo, Umbra when in group, and Ongoing when someone use that ammo directive XD

[cerulean smelt]

i've got a little bit of everything. least it feels like it. but my goto when i just want to destroy the npcs is 3pc providence, 1 grupo sumbra, 1 fox's prayer and whatever weapon i fancy with it, currently AR. 2 provience is Sacrifice Chest and Gift Backpack

[soft apex]

A lot of builds could do with some kind of buffs. They've nerfed a lot of stuff over the years. Amazing that they haven't touched strikers as far as I know. Unless it was better years ago?

[boreal ingot]

Umbra stack are much easier to build and that health regen can deal with no regen directive

[cerulean smelt]

they altered it

[soft apex]

Vadersoft: "I have altered the deal pray I do not alter it any further."

[cerulean smelt]

used to have a "missed shots drops 2 stacks" mechanic built in

[soft apex]

oof

[boreal ingot]

so it's a buff 😛

I wish they improve other dps set to be competitive with striker

[cerulean smelt]

nego got a buff

backpack i think? used to only goto 100% now it's 112%

[soft apex]

Weird that crit chance can only go up to 60%

[cerulean smelt]

probably a balancing thing otherwise people woud've found a way to hit 100%

[boreal ingot]

Well I see crit most of the time with that 60

[soft apex]

But I guess that's to stop people from just doing x5 damage every single shot

[soft apex]

Definitely

[cerulean smelt]

oh wait! we do have a 100% chc but it randomly selects an enemy for you

[soft apex]

Crazy

[cerulean smelt]

wasn't a fan of the weapon because it's a rifle

[soft apex]

I hope they'll add a cosmetic set similar to true patriot some day. I like big bulky armor like that but hate having to transmog with every set I put on. I wanna cosplay the True son tanks breh.

[soft apex]

Diamond back?

[cerulean smelt]

yes

[soft apex]

Yeah I don't much like it either

[warm knot]

I wonder, does killer synergises with ND? 🤔

[soft apex]

Not horrible but not one id use

[cerulean smelt]

not sure why it wouldn't?

[warm knot]

No I mean, technically the marked targets are dying with crit dmg. But I think ND damage counts as raw dmg, so that wont trigger killer... I can't hop in the game rn to try it out...

[violet juniper]

It got a nerf last season that got reverted because people whined

[soft apex]

Sounds about right

[cerulean smelt]

@soft apex in case you don't keep up on the happenings of division2. tomorrow most guns will get a reload buff

[soft apex]

Oh really?

[violet juniper]

I've always wondered what would be better for a HB build, the HB chest or a Fenris chest with Spotter

[soft apex]

I don't watch the PTS stuff. I don't know where to watch it and I'm pretty sure they are mostly several hour long streams. So I mostly watch like rogue gold cause the news stuff he gets right typically. Not much else though

[violet juniper]

or Grupo/Cêska*

[cerulean smelt]

i do like rogue gold

[soft apex]

I've been told never to watch build videos by anyone on YouTube for the most part if they aren't in the spreadsheet and I know why

They don't work.

[cerulean smelt]

should've been here for one of them earlier last week

[soft apex]

I feel like rocket physicist and division 2 build maker are just the same job with different titles considering all the math that needs to be done

[cerulean smelt]

they were in here spouting like they just cured cancer for division 2. we tried to help educate them but they just wanted to fight. apparently we're toxic for trying to help them

[soft apex]

They need to put y'all into NASA, we would get to Mars in like 5 years instead of 50

Oh god I hope all this grinding I'm about to do works out for me otherwise imma be just a little upsetti spaghetti

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure we've all been in your shoes before, after a little more playing and seeing the builds you start to see things

[soft apex]

Every time I ask for help in the builds section my brain turns into the cymbal monkey clacking and "THE NUMBERS MASON! WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!"

[vestal ibex]

Spotter=better up front damage while stacking
HB chest=better top end damage

There will be a certain point where they equalized tho.

As for brandset that is more dependent on your exact build.

[soft apex]

I'll do my daily season project first and then do grinding. One last actual use of my strikers build before the grind begins.

[cerulean smelt]

for builds people tell people to run countdown is mostly for the sheer amount of loot you get there so 1-3 runs maybe and you'll have pieces to use if doing gearsets, but a few more and you may find the chest/backpack you need for your builds

[soft apex]

Well I'm gonna try making the heartbreaker's build in the spreadsheet

[vestal ibex]

Please read the guide from top to bottom, the pictures at the end are typically example but there are tons of alternatives talked about before that picture.

[soft apex]

I will I'm doing a raid real quick first. I got invited to one.

[steady copper]

any improvements I can make to this hb pulse build? when i tried it I was kind of underwhelmed by the overall dmg

lexington has technician underbarrel thing, i dont really use the secondary or pistol in this build

(also ik the UG gloves have a red attribute, will get a better pair soon)

[subtle bluff]

You need stuff to give CHC till 50-60% then the rest into CHD.
Everything is Blue and Yellow your dmg is gonna be low no matter what.

Future Prefect has a gun talent isn't good for dmg.

[subtle bluff]

You really should use the secondary lefty if you're close to enemies. Put a laser point on it and shoot them you'll build your stacks really quickly.

[rain scarab]

I heard that The Lexington is/was a time-gated weapon? Is that still the case or can I get it via AR target farming?

[subtle bluff]

It is not lootable.

[rain scarab]

thats unfortunate. I missed the log-in window i guess

[subtle bluff]

uh? Check your mail box?

[rain scarab]

N/A - apparently it only spawns in your Inv, i must have missed the time window (heard it was around december)

[warm knot]

I'd run a shield and the technician laser pointer instead of the pulse. Is that Lexington? If so, it's good cuz og the high RoF, so you get stacks/armor faster.

[warm knot]

Check your mailbox anyways, they sent 2 copies. 1 to the inventory and another to the mail box cuz some people lost the first due to having the inventory full.

[rain scarab]

I just had a bunch of caches and an exotic cache there, no weapon

[hot leaf]

what is better hotshot build with skill or critt ?

[warm knot]

Hotshot is better with..... Headshot dmg

[hot leaf]

ye critt and headshot i ment

cus i see some people use it with skill idk whats better

[warm knot]

Dunno, you can run anything i guess. I like weapon handling.

I think it also improves the blind fire accuracy 🤔

[steady copper]

i just scrapped the entire build

gonna just do a red heartbreaker

[red island]

you dont need crit on headshot builds usually, and def not on hotshot

[hot leaf]

why not ?

[red island]

cause you'd need to sacrifice too much to get 60%chc AND chd on headshot build, while headshot damage is way easier to get in high number

also hotshot build just oneshot even tanky bosses

why would you need to crit on that

[cerulean smelt]

i still 2+ shot some bosses though 🤔

[red island]

some are with helmet so its a problem, others are just way tankier, but its not a real pb

[subtle bluff]

You do not need to go full Weapon Damage HB. You need CHC and CHD.

[hexed steppe]

not really. hotshot is pretty much always hsd and handling. if someone is running skill or crit its a really subpar setup. i would check out the pinned sheet if you want solid builds

[cerulean smelt]

one skill that might be used is the achilles pulse

[hexed steppe]

sure used, but that doesnt mean they are speccing into skilltiers for it. decoy exists and works well at tier 0, same with revive

[cerulean smelt]

saw a modifier for decoy will be interested in seeing how that works XD

[frosty wolf]

Have there been many changes to shotgun builds in terms of which guns to use? I know the build is still HF gear, just looking for something different to the current meta

[cerulean smelt]

probably whatever shotgun you like with brazen?

[frosty wolf]

Ahh, so brazen is still the top talent.

[cerulean smelt]

shrugs no clue honestly hopefully someone in the know will come in and tell ya

[subtle bluff]

Brazen has always been the top for dmg (it's buffed in tu21) and pummel is still used it depends on the build and what you're trying to do.

[shy willow]

Brazen is top notch for damage and it even amps HH iirc

Pummel is pretty good for free reloads on pumps

[worn mango]

Well I guess we'll be needing skill builds this season. What is the build on that one?

[fresh fox]

no we won’t bruh let’s get real now

[worn mango]

I'd rather have it than not

And I don't wanna play on normal just for certain kills by example of the manhunt mission 3

[red island]

the spreadsheet has them all

also skill builds arent hard to make

[worn mango]

Honestly I didn't see one that that fit at least even using the first skill you're supposed to

To be honest I've just never messed with skills outside this CC shenanigans just for some countdown variety

[fresh fox]

because skill builds are fairly universal

[bright raptor]

mortar build

[shy willow]

Hard wired is standard issue for seekers

Also helpful as a secondary on mortar build

[fresh fox]

3pc empress, 2pc hana u, 1pc wyvern is like a fine skill build for everything

[worn mango]

And then the hardwire BTU wyvern, also universal?

[fresh fox]

and i’ll be honest it’s probably one of the 3 skill builds you will ever need

[worn mango]

And you just need to roll haste and damage, what's generally more important?

[fresh fox]

no that’s for seekers

[fresh fox]

as long as you have damage it’s kinda chill

[worn mango]

Oh interesting. What's the tech on why hardwire is better for seekers?

I don't even know if I've ever even used it or read it lol

[shy willow]

Seekers have long cooldowns and hard wired let's you kill cooldowns every 5 seconds

Assuming you have the chest

Or was it bag I forget

[worn mango]

Bag is in the build

Oh is that the build where using the other skill basically cools down the other?

[shy willow]

Yes

[fresh fox]

bag

chest buffs the damage

[shy willow]

Ah

[fresh fox]

useless because glass does that but better

[worn mango]

I swore I had some hard wired but I just hate skills lol

Nope, none in the inventory lol

So do you leverage BSTU gloves just to have a hive on to destroy it for your other skill?

[fresh fox]

for the team mainly

but it’s also another skill reset

[autumn crown]

Can I only tinker 1 attribute?

[worn mango]

You can fully reroll one but then you can maximize the rest

[vestal ibex]

Recalibrate only 1 talent/attribute

You cannot change the perfect attribute/talent on named items tho.

[autumn crown]

Can I do 1 core attribute and then 1 of the other attributes?

[magic pilot]

No

[vestal ibex]

1 is 1 and you can only do 1.

[autumn crown]

Okay so change 1, max 1?

[vestal ibex]

Should try to get used to the terms tbh.

Recalibrate only 1 talent/attribute, you can optimize everything.

DO NOT rebalibrate a line and then optimize it.

[autumn crown]

Alright 👍

[vestal ibex]

It'll let you but it'll lock that recalibrated line once you optimize it.

[shy willow]

iirc you can sell it to a vendor then buy it back to unlock it

[vestal ibex]

idk I messed with this a bit and couldn't figure it out. Maybe I was doing it with a different type of item? idk

[shy willow]

It should remove the optimisation but the recal stays

Might've been patched out since I last checked though who knows

[vestal ibex]

Kinda hard to test with a max library tho.

[polar flame]

I'm having issues\confused about how to get max stats on gear. Is it the case of farming for one with max stats? I only ever have enough materials to max one stat and that's it.

I'm SHD level 184 and I feel like I should have max stats on my gear by now lol

[worn mango]

Oh you poor soul, you are nowhere near it lol

[shy willow]

optimisation is always expensive

[polar flame]

So I'm fine? I just feel like I'm playing the game wrong lol

[shy willow]

but shd 184 is exceedingly early to be worried about max rolls

just focus on getting the right rolls

[polar flame]

Oh ok good. That makes me feel better lol, thanks!

[cerulean smelt]

nods just worry about getting 1 build that lets you to gather all the stats and talents in your library then you can start worry about optimizing your build(s)

[polar flame]

Is playing on challenging difficulty ok for that? When I play on heroic I get plowed haha.

[cerulean smelt]

whatever difficulty you can play without needing to see the loading screen ofter should be good enough

[worn mango]

Play on what's fun and rewarding for you. Once again you're pretty early in

[polar flame]

Ok cool, I just figured I wasn't "progressing" because I wasn't playing on heroic. But knowing I'm still early makes sense as to why I'm struggling

[rich lotus]

for the new refactor set, is the backpack talent really needed, or does the dmg with 5/6 skill tier make the overheal uneccesary?

• what are the best skills for consistent dmg or burst?

[cerulean smelt]

consistent skill damage would probably be the assault drone for 1, still trying to figure the 2nd from my perspective i haven't gotten a good chest so i'm using the backpack. the bonus armor doesn't deteriate btw

[rich lotus]

alr thx

[fresh fox]

i thought the bag was the heal buff wtf

[worn mango]

Oh lawd there's so many seeker mine things

I'm glad I built this thing even though I feel it does nothing lol

[cerulean smelt]

nope it's the chest for the healing buff, backpack just gives you bonus armor

[worn mango]

Is there anything else I'm missing here to get more skill damage or is it literally toss seeker, drop hive once it's on cooldown, throw again

[magic pilot]

What's your other 2 pieces

[worn mango]

Wyvern BTSU

Wyvern chest with glass

[magic pilot]

Yea that's probably best you can do for dmg

[cerulean smelt]

1 china light gives explosive damage....

[magic pilot]

True

China/ Wyvern

[fresh fox]

both suck gg

[magic pilot]

BTSU I would hot swap

[worn mango]

So swap the gloves for China, cool

It's not like I'm cancelling hive anyway

[cerulean smelt]

[shy willow]

chest isnt so bad but it locks you out of gc

[cerulean smelt]

the btsu was for ocing your seekers periodically if you felt the need to

[fresh fox]

so it sucks

[shy willow]

yea

if it was the bag instead then itd be sweet

[worn mango]

I really don't understand how people can like skill builds lol

[cerulean smelt]

they're fun

[red island]

everyone has different tastes

some like gun & run

some like snipers

there is so many playstyles

[shy willow]

theres a handful that are extremely potent

the rest fall between mid and trash

[worn mango]

I guess when I can just OD and kill someone in an instant rather than sit behind cover, throw a seeker mine and not get a kill, throw a hive, throw another and maybe still not get a kill, I feel like I'm doing something wrong

[red island]

do you have a good skill build in the first plkace ? cause my skill build oneshot npcs

[worn mango]

I just built the HW for now and gonna grab some China gloves

Should I be building the one that's drone/turret? I don't even care to use skills, just doing it for the journey stuff

[red island]

check pinned message for builds

you'll find skill builds

[worn mango]

Oh I'm in there

It's Drone/turret, FI Healer, Oxy/Chem, HW, Mortar x2 and EP

[red island]

if you got the gear from the spreadsheet, you should demolish enemies

if you play accordingly

[worn mango]

I'll call it a skill issue lol

[onyx sage]

hm

[merry basalt]

thorn vs m870 for a shotgun build?

[fresh fox]

depends on which

m870 better on crit

thorn better on headshot/headhunter

[merry basalt]

hmmmmm then ifs thats the issue ill run thorn on my armor regen build

[fresh fox]

heard

[onyx sage]

i mean m870 also good on hh

[fresh fox]

thorn better get out pal.

you retired go away

[bright raptor]

yeah that's why the seeker spam build is all about spam, as an individual cluster has... not great odds of getting or securing a kill most of the time

[onyx sage]

bro has not headhunted while moving...

[worn mango]

Yeah, even the split ones seem bad

Oh you can cheese this in firing range, gg lol

[fresh fox]

yea i’m pro.

check my leaderboard environmental kills.

i’m quite the champ.

[boreal ingot]

I love new gear so much, so much healing while I can stay in safe place and let it auto heal. Normally have a bit of problem against rogue but since all my skill heal entire pt, it become much easier to manage. 1 Weakness is disrupt or when skill on cd.

[cerulean smelt]

Could be a skill issue maybe?

[forest trail]

the new set looks kinda crazy to carry new people
or bad people

[floral raptor]

so whats the way to play now?

[worn mango]

The same?

[vestal ibex]

Pretty sure the meta stuff didn't shift at all, if you wanna make funky builds you can now do that to a larger extent I guess.

[worn mango]

I put the grease knee pads on my CC build, I think that's the only thing I've changed lol

That might not even be optimal but proficiency says otherwise

[vestal ibex]

I'm gonna use mats to do all the new things to proficient so yeah.

[worn mango]

I'm incredibly mat poor right now

I should do a third character but I'd rather eat a box of legos

[vestal ibex]

Yeah I cracked off a fresh mule last night while DCD was still invaded.

[worn mango]

I had no idea that was the meta

Does invaded give more xp?

I know DCD is fast but all the deep cut stuff I don't know yet

[subtle bluff]

lol the new set will slow “carry” Just one shot everything is the current carry

[vestal ibex]

Yes, but you need a carry to run thru and you join at boss room.

DCD invaded 5 directives takes 5-6 minutes if you are good at running it and it takes 6 completions if you made a character via WONY and traveled back to DC.

[worn mango]

And you just need someone running it with you yeah?

[vestal ibex]

You have the level 40 run it solo and join on boss room.

[worn mango]

How do you have two concurrent sessions?

Or am I completely missing something here and this was easier than I anticipated lol

[vestal ibex]

You just join homie who is running the mission for you.

[worn mango]

Okay that's what I thought lol

[kindred mango]

What build do you like for the carry Souless? hhf?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, just HHF and if you wanna no brain just determined 1886.

[forest trail]

Eh

Safer this way

Should be legendary carry viable too with eaze

[vestal ibex]

How does it compare to a typical turret drone damage wise? Cause that already takes an eternity.

[onyx sage]

i like my runs to last until my pension claim thank you

[vestal ibex]

Can I just say viable brings this to mind and nothing else.

[hazy steeple]

You know what they mean in the context of the game though, there's really no reason to keep posting that one unfunny joke over and over.

[versed summit]

I still think it’s pretty funny, and a good reminder to what is viable

[vestal ibex]

Is this a message as a peer or as a mod?

[hazy steeple]

Peer is an odd word to use, but it's not official, just a suggestion to not scare off the newbies.
We need a consistent trickle of new players to keep this game alive.

[worn mango]

Orrrrrrr we gatekeep all the cool stuff

[vestal ibex]

I could use what people define as viable in the context of the game too cause I don't have a clue past finishing a mission or is that all viable needs?

[hazy steeple]

We already are from you.

[worn mango]

I know everyone is using that Red EP from me

[hazy steeple]

The current thing we're keeping from you is the Red FI setup.

[worn mango]

Jokes on you, I have one lol

And have never used it

[hazy steeple]

You really, really should. In Countdown.

Even a hybrid healer has limited use elsewhere.

[hazy steeple]

Exactly! Viable depends on context.
For most people, being able to carry Heroic Missions or solo them is about the limit of what they care about.

[worn mango]

I'm at the stage of fun but also still feeling like I can do something

[urban latch]

So anything that can solo heroic? That sounds familiar

[worn mango]

I do now know though that my hatred for skills is still deep. I feel like other than the rolls on this chest it's as good as it can be lol

[subtle bluff]

sorry a skill build can't solo carry a leggo. Well that's a lie you can on captial but that was before this season even.

[mystic walrus]

Hey, so i'm tryna build a stuff with the Dark Winter smg but I can't find where I can drop it, can someone help pls?

[kindred mango]

DZ or Named Item caches

[mystic walrus]

Oohh okay thx

[shy willow]

[onyx sage]

momento, rouge, decent, cayote, refractor

[hexed steppe]

is that the new meta? red refracture with skill buckets?

[hexed steppe]

dont you get more out of an eletrique piece rolled w/ status effects . the duration doesnt impact any of your cc skills afaik.. other than maybe double popping an emp sticky

[proper pilot]

hi all, my hive use to have 36 charges but i can't remember how i got it to 36. i can't seem to figure out what I did and how to get it back. any advice?

[worn mango]

Sounds like you just need to have six skill tiers

But you can also look at the hive levels and see how many charges it gets with each skill level

[worn mango]

To be honest I wasn't sure and I was literally doing it for proficiency sake lol

Funny enough though, the one time I run CC in Countdown and nobody can kill anything at final exfil. What a pain

[shy willow]

There's a mod that gives you 4 extra charges

[hexed steppe]

[neon wyvern]

is the new exotic gearset good for pestilence build ?

[onyx sage]

what?

[hexed steppe]

which hive?

[fair dragon]

Restorer Hive?

[proper pilot]

sorry, restorer

[onyx sage]

must be restorer

[proper pilot]

yes

[onyx sage]

you need to have skill tier 6 and the +4 mod

[proper pilot]

i used to have it but I've lost it, somehow. I now see all the teirs are greyed out.

[onyx sage]

well do you have skill tier as the core on your gear pieces?

or do you have weapon damage? armor?

[hexed steppe]

ok, no worries. artificer also has 32 but no mod. was just clarifying before i assumed and sounded like a 🤓

[proper pilot]

Ahh... Ok. I was carelessly mucking around and now my skill level is almost gone.

[onyx sage]

you are a nerd regardless

[hexed steppe]

shush

[proper pilot]

I never connected to the dots. 🤦‍♂️

so if I adjust gear to increase skill again it should come back?

[hexed steppe]

yeah, it scales

all skills scale in one way or another

[fair dragon]

Wait, which skill is the +4 stim charges mod for?

[hexed steppe]

booster

[onyx sage]

booster

[fair dragon]

Ah

[onyx sage]

see, nerd

[fair dragon]

I deleted that skill from memory

[onyx sage]

it's good tho

[shy willow]

Good for boss burns

[hexed steppe]

old nerd. and slow.. sop drinking before 5p

[onyx sage]

tbh i should be using it during bichon fight lol

[fair dragon]

If you need boosting then you're not
🤓

[proper pilot]

lol. Could be worse. Could be me. "Hey I have no skill teir now. I wonder if thats why my hive restorer skill is crap, nar they couldn't be related"🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

many thanks all.

[hexed steppe]

just gotta look for ways to squeeze in some free skilltiers. tech class, memento, the infamous ninja +ba gear

future perfect

kard custom

ok ill see myself out

[worn mango]

nerd

Go optimize mortar more somehow

[proper pilot]

yeah i need to read/learn/find about this ninja backpack thing

[hexed steppe]

😭 i already have 4 perfect unicorn mortars. someone will have to send me their login info so i can work on theirs....
/j , mods, /j

[worn mango]

I am so done with these seeker mines

They aren't doing damage now lol

I'm glad I cheesed the journey because these are awful

Watching a video on this right now

I feel like anytime I see Ninja I just disregard lol

[tulip charm]

When farming build just ninja the build

[bright raptor]

Most of the time you should 😛

[rain scarab]

I know it isnt that great, but does "The Collector" chestpiece spawn in general loot pool now? I want to own one of each exotic

[shy willow]

Yes

[charred eagle]

For AR’s would you want dmg to armor or dmg to target out of cover? 🤔

[subtle bluff]

always DTTooC

[timber dagger]

Pls best refractor build?

[subtle bluff]

no

[deep fossil]

this is mine, works quite well for solo/group

[solid valley]

Should i get DTTooC on my weapon if im already using Fox's prayer kneepads?

[deep fossil]

The more the better

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no. If it's taking too many numbers away it's not better. AR Fox's basically isn't worth it.

[warm knot]

Dttooc is the best for verything but lmgs, those goes for chc(crit chance). If you're running skills/status effects the best is dmg to armor, I recommend a shotgun since it has the highest dmg to armor attribute and capacitor exotic AR.

[red island]

depends on the build, its good on most but not all

[timid plume]

is expertise on shield worth at all?

[magic pilot]

Meh

[fair dragon]

Mega Regen

[tacit goblet]

what do I do with the Ravenous

[bright raptor]

shoot people

use the defensive primer shoulder on tanks and Warhounds to maximize damage

juggling the primers can make stuff get loud

pretty fun once the micromanagement is sorted

[tacit goblet]

Any Builds Tailored for it?

[vestal ibex]

Normal rifle builds.

Then shoulder swap simulator.

[tacit goblet]

tbh I genuinely did not expect Ravenous to Drop, It Jumpscared me

[tacit goblet]

Can you point me to a rifle build

[vestal ibex]

Pinned in this channel is a google spreadsheet, open it and go to the Hub(builds) tab, for rifle builds you'll want the standard red DPS or ongoing directive build, I'd say try them both.

With the Rav just know the explosive primers damage is based on weapon damage and amps, explosive damage does not increase it.

[worn mango]

I still need to get the Rav, Eagle and Regulus. Having them in the inventory at this point would just be fun

Both Rav and Eagle shoulder mechanics yeah?

[vestal ibex]

EB has an on kill skill tenacity.

[worn mango]

Ah

[gusty kiln]

hello can someone give me build ideas for paradise lost and master missions please ?

[placid lion]

Striker or FI would be good for PL
The build in the spreadsheet for Striker should have a boss one in there i think

[solar berry]

Rav is only shoulder mechanic exotic for a weapon

Eagle and regulus both have mechanics for headshots.
eagle is tenacity on headshot kills, holds incoming dmg till tenacity is over or 3 headshot clears it, when it’s up.
Regulus, causes headshots to be explosion.

[solar berry]

^

[rain scarab]

EB+Exodus gloves for cursed DZ build

[worn mango]

Yall prefer HF with or without Momento?

[hazy steeple]

With works in both solo and with a team, it's honestly hard to beat it.

Since you are forced to play close anyway, you are going to be collecting those trophies, so you get both the short+long buffs.

Just throw a Ceska piece on as your 6th, and it's hard to find a better overall CQB setup.

[worn mango]

I'm running Sokolov, don't need the crit

I was just trying to run Wicked and for whatever reason couldn't get it to proc in Countdown. The spot I hit was just not getting the HF stun because nobody was close lol

[hazy steeple]

It's not so much about "needing" the crit, it's that with Ceska on there, you have more space for other stats.
Plus, depending heavily on your core distribution, Sokolov does way less than you might think. Since that 10% scales off base damage, before the Red Cores are added.

Yeah HF in Countdown is kinda a waste, you need to generally kill enemies before you get that close, since you're on a very tight timer.
OD is a great choice for there, since it helps out the team as well as yourself.

Striker is another popular CD choice, my personal suggestions is always Red FI, as it helps the DPS spammers keep spamming, and keeps the newbies alive.

[worn mango]

Oh yeah for sure. Just trying to use different stuff to spice it up. I'm already at 59% on Sokolov so really no need since I'm just running Ouro because with the momentum it sounds funny

[hazy steeple]

I give up.

[worn mango]

I still need to give that Red FI another chance

[magic pilot]

Solo with

The efficiency is great for emp sticky

[worn mango]

I figured with group play your liklihood of getting momento tokens is gonna be hard

[hazy steeple]

Only if you suck at killing.

[worn mango]

Or you have anyone competent

I'm guessing they only drop if you get last shot

[magic pilot]

Most of the time if I'm playing heroic everyone is headhunting

[hazy steeple]

Evidence of why I roleplay as a hermit.

[worn mango]

lol

[vestal ibex]

BRO TOOK MY STACK

[worn mango]

So you're the one running x6 13% PFE huh

[hazy steeple]

PFE is for people who are still missing DTE.

[vestal ibex]

Think they mean solo play

[magic pilot]

Toni is so bad about calling npcs he wants for HHer stacks, bro just shoot them and stop missing

[vestal ibex]

I can hear him saying "nooooo my stacks"

[hexed anvil]

Anyone got a good build for golden bullet?

[hazy steeple]

GB is so overtuned that you could use 6 pieces of blue and still win.

[vestal ibex]

Anything with a gun

[magic pilot]

"Bro my determined is not working" has flatline on

[hazy steeple]

Of course it's not working, it flatlined.

[magic pilot]

@vestal ibex I was messing with AJ hardcore last night 🤣

He had to get long range kills on tarkov, and we ran into a group of 6 pmcs, (we didn't know how many at the time) and I killed one of them after he was calling out hes gonna try and do the task

He got them done still, he got the other 5

[gloomy spruce]

I mostly play heroic solo. HH stacks and everything aren't an issue.

HH in heroic is kinda overkill.

Playing with HH people in Heroic is dull, especially when they run Determined unironically.

[hazy steeple]

How do you use a Weapon Talent ironically?

[gloomy spruce]

I then ping @onyx sage

[worn mango]

Well diggity, momentum Ouro getting 1.392B damage in Countdown lol

[gloomy spruce]

@hazy steeple I then wait for him to show up and just facepalm or act like he never saw it.

[hazy steeple]

So how is that using a gun talent ironically?

[gloomy spruce]

That is how you use Determined Ironically.

[hazy steeple]

It's just a build.

[gloomy spruce]

I have the equipment, but I never use it in actual combat except as a meme.

[hazy steeple]

With way too many mods in your inventory. Free up some space.

And how do you use it as a meme?

[gloomy spruce]

At the time of that image, by gear was 146/150

[hazy steeple]

You don't need to keep pinging me, I'm in the channel.

[gloomy spruce]

Oof

I use it as a meme to taunt or just complete the mission by swapping to striker or a weapon that does not have determined.

Determined is so broken right now that using it intentionally to clear a mission is overkill.

Throw it on a 1886 and it is one shot everything all day. It is busted.

Its like the BosG for siege. Bikini Bodhi ran the thing as a meme gun for ages. People still do from what I recall.

People used it to snipe as a joke, and then swapped to their SMG secondary.

[hazy steeple]

I'm clearly too old for this conversation, I need a zoomer.

[gloomy spruce]

You understand that determined is busted, right?

[hazy steeple]

Actually let's just let this one lie. You enjoy your memes and whatnot.

[gloomy spruce]

@onyx sage

[edgy solstice]

Imo that is probably a good Legendary/Master build since you can't afford to expose yourself that much (so no Memento, Force Multiplier, or Vigilance). With that one replace the drone with artificer hive and camp. But for lower difficulties it doesn't make sense to me

[gloomy spruce]

Rivens, if you want to see real high comedy. Try the Classic M1A and Determined.

[worn mango]

Yeah it was just funny because people are trying to force the set. Not that I wanna use it, give me a gun and go brrtt

[edgy solstice]

Yeah classic m1a and determined is op up until you're in a group in Heroic. Or it remains op regardless of how many people are in your group if the Reanimated event is active

[urban latch]

What a noob

[tame crane]

Is there a quick and easy skill dmg build for seeker mine or sticky bomb maybe, that I could put together for high dmg for skill kills in shooting range? 🙂

[worn mango]

Put together the hard wire build that's in the spreadsheet, that should get you what you need

[onyx sage]

ikr

[boreal ingot]

is there a build that allow long period use of signature weapon without require any event?

[worn mango]

Tip of the Spear but you might not get enough to completely sustain

I think you'd need to use both backpack and chest

[boreal ingot]

yeah wish there are something that allow me to use those weapon more

[jaunty citrus]

Would the new gear we got be good for a medic build, or should I keep my fi healer build?

[boreal ingot]

I just play leg with 1 more refactor, a very few death, and took around 31 mins to clear Capital

[magic pilot]

Fi still better

[boreal ingot]

I also refactor

As healer sure

it just far easier and deal far more damage than healer XD

[magic pilot]

That's a long time for capital

I mean... that's what refractor is for?

[jaunty citrus]

Would the new weapons be viable on the fi build?

[boreal ingot]

the new exotic sub machine gun?

[magic pilot]

Not really imo

[boreal ingot]

that one I think is for shield dps

[magic pilot]

Setups for legendary didn't really change

[jaunty citrus]

Isn't that ment to be run with the crusader shield?

[boreal ingot]

any shield shod work with it

well that can use submachine I mean

I meant red build who carry shield

[magic pilot]

2/4

[jaunty citrus]

That's where my mind went as well

[vestal ibex]

With or without modifiers?

[deep fossil]

I also did a leg capitol using refractor with modifiers, and clear in 24mins

[boreal ingot]

with though I'm not unlock all mod yet

For one I'm have not unlock active mod yet

[vestal ibex]

Set is sounding a bit underwhelming tbh

[patent fossil]

It's based around skill damage, it's always going to be slow compared to full dps. Presumably a lot safer though, for those who don't have the positioning etc skills down pat

[magic pilot]

Problem is the healing isn't that good either

[patent fossil]

I'm sure someone on pts said they could facetank legendary with it, and I don't think it was nerfed since then.
Haven't tested myself though

[vestal ibex]

Just facetank with shield and the modifiers cause it OCs your skills so have a full time invulnerable shield.

[merry basalt]

if anyone needs a simple build for the event heres a fun build

repleace pistol with orbit my bad

[magic pilot]

That was with oxpecker

[merry basalt]

i laughed at the name

pecker

[magic pilot]

I remember being in middle school

It's the name of a bird

[boreal ingot]

I preferred sniper build to be honest, I just realized X4 Scope can zoom in like sniper and zoom out and it look like normal rifle... I like that scope so much despite have no headshot damage on it, I change from my rifle to sniper build because of that scope alone XD

[cerulean smelt]

i enjoy the hotshot determined build honestly

[boreal ingot]

Like them too 🙂 though when I solo, I preferred Mantis for Decoy loop, I feel safer that way

I don't get why decoy throwing reset hotshot buff though honestly

[cerulean smelt]

that reminds me, the decoy is supposed tied to the last seasons exotic chest 🤔

[boreal ingot]

Provocator?

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, brain fart, forgot the name at the time

[boreal ingot]

BTW, anyone has spereadsheet that show enemy hp on different difficulty and multiplier when in group, wanna see how much damage I need as Sniper to 1 shot enemy in 4 man group

[burnt gate]

Does anyone else have the oxpecker yet? Curious to hear opinions on it

[dreamy valve]

Is Refactor still as invincible as it was in the pts?

[boreal ingot]

I saw some gameplay on youtube already

[vestal ibex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ-OZyQRHd6TskSbeE9tn2jMdn9eLIe9Fsm5CjD7A_EUwUKPdo_VO_ug7aOMdH3hhnw0pE8GGs_LnPl/pubhtml

[bold leaf]

Yep same as PTS

[pastel crane]

Since I have all 5 pieces for Refactor, I wanna know what's a good build for it? I heard it works great as skill dmg/healer hybrid

[boreal ingot]

ty

[dreamy valve]

Refactor is S tier

It’s a Netflix healer build

And baby, there’s plenty of shows to catch up on

[sullen sun]

Dod said in his video yesterday that chc is far better than dmg to armor now. Anything to that?

[vestal ibex]

I feel like this is missing a buch of context tho.

[tulip charm]

yeah whats the context in that vid

[vestal ibex]

I just looked and it's about LMGs... Probably referring to third rolls on LMGs but this has been the case for a long time? idk

[sullen sun]

Sry I meant to say that

So maybe chc for pve? I still say dmg to armor for PvP

[vestal ibex]

LMGs best third attribute has been CHC/fire rate with both being super close and more build dependent.

[vestal ibex]

I think most of DODs stuff is PVE focused.

[hazy steeple]

With the recent buffs to LMG's, I'd say that CHC has pulled ahead of fire-rate at least a little.

I'm going to assume that the video in question is a reference to all the div2 youtubers who pair LMG builds with Contractors, at the cost of Ceska.

[sullen sun]

In that case would ceska be the better bet? I’m assuming yes

[magic pilot]

DTA is decent in PvP but I'd still go chc

[forest trail]

would there be a better variant of chatterbox build than this?

[magic pilot]

Yea not running ninja

[forest trail]

?

okay what instead then

that gives me 4p striker and 2p hunter and 2p walker for dta

this is for solo play btw

[magic pilot]

4 striker, and sokolov/grupo or coyotes

[forest trail]

25 chd sounds interesting
but it's way less tanky
and i'm sure i would overcap chc

but i'll see

[magic pilot]

No it's not over cap

You don't need to be tanky kill everything lol

[keen meteor]

You’re losing out on the striker backpack for ninja? Why?

[onyx sage]

crit is more important on a full red like this than weapon damage, and you literally have less attributes to spec into damage with. if you want a compromise with tankiness and damage use memento

memento is THE item for solo play

[dreamy valve]

It’s weird cause I always can get max memento stacks on 4 player content

[vestal ibex]

Depends on who you play with.

So much of this game depends on so many factors it's sometimes hard to say what's best cause it could change from person to person and then flip the next room.

[keen meteor]

I kinda wish memento would have a hidden “mark” in multiplayer where if you deal x amount of damage to them they’ll drop a tag when they die

It’s fine as it though

[tulip charm]

nah just steal all the kills

[keen meteor]

It’s so funny when ur in a 4man and watching two ppl fight over tags

[worldly hill]

Give me the build 🙏

[dreamy valve]

4pc

Drone/turret

[worldly hill]

Which slots

And what extra item/exotic

😔

[worldly hill]

What do you run extra 😭 and where are the 4 pieces slotted

[dreamy valve]

You can try it without the backpack and chest, and then use the

Chest kinetic momentum

Backpack is up to what you want to use

Capacitor

You want to stack skill damage

[worldly hill]

How do you get that

[worn mango]

It's just an exotic drop

[worldly hill]

It’s not locked to anything like how they used to be?

[solar berry]

its in everyones general loot pool

[magic pilot]

No it's not

Summit challenges bucko

[worldly hill]

Where do I see those

[cerulean smelt]

in the game mode "Summit"

[worn mango]

You can also use the Test Subject HE gun for the time being

[solar berry]

my bad... been ages since summit released

[worldly hill]

Can I use waveform with a refactor build?

[magic pilot]

Only drops after unlocked from summit

[cerulean smelt]

i know right?

[magic pilot]

@worldly hill it takes like 20 minutes to get capacitor just run it on normal

You have to do 5 ascent challenges iirc

[worldly hill]

I’m asking about a holster exotic 😭

[magic pilot]

^

[cerulean smelt]

you can, but might take you longer depending on what you're trying to do as the right side are Armor Cores

[magic pilot]

Am I stupid or something?

No one answer that

[worldly hill]

I’m trying to figure out how to build support for the homies using refactor I have a few exotics but idk if any of them work on refactor

[cerulean smelt]

suit yourself, just telling you the right side refactors drop as armor cores so if you're trying to make it a pure skill damage build you might be farming it for a long while. just giving you a heads up in case you think all 6 drops as skill tiers

[worldly hill]

Oh no that’s fine

How would you run the build?

[cerulean smelt]

i have yet need to find me a proper chest :/

[worn mango]

Gotta bench press more

[worldly hill]

Ascent or summit?

[hazy steeple]

Ascent is one of the challenge tabs within Summit.

[worldly hill]

Ohh

[cerulean smelt]

IE; run summit on normal, choose 5 challenges on the Ascent side. you'll have a shiny capacitor in your hands in no time

[dreamy valve]

You don’t have to rush to get them, you can use In Sync on a weapon and put on a Wyvern piece in the meantime

[cerulean smelt]

i tend to use Mechanical Animal and Harmony myself

[magic pilot]

Capacitor goated though

[hazy steeple]

Capacitor is 100% worth unlocking in your Exotic/AR loot pool.

[worn mango]

Speaking of Refactor though, is it any better than the already built drone/turret build?

[dreamy valve]

The healing support it brings to your team while still doing damage vs just damage? I think so

[hazy steeple]

If that's its niche, how about it vs Red FI?

[magic pilot]

Honestly the healing doesn't seem that strong, and doesn't provide any team buffs

eclipse or FI still way better

[cerulean smelt]

so it's a trap? 🤔

[dreamy valve]

If it’s still acts like it had in the pts, then it’s actually insane sustain for the group

[magic pilot]

Using what skills?

[dreamy valve]

BRB need to drive

[worn mango]

And is the status effects even being taken advantage of from it?

Seems like a waste

[cerulean smelt]

status effects works well in the targeting range but in game you'd probably gotta catch a few close and use creeping death

[worn mango]

But where would you even leverage it I guess. If the point of the build is to sit back and heal and pepper with skills such as turret and drone, how can you even leverage status

[cerulean smelt]

there's a player on the other server. NBB, 3 refactor and 2 empress

not sure the verdict if it's great or it needs work

[brisk hollow]

Hello, I'm a returning player. Just leveling my way to 40, 33 ish rn. Do I good till 40 just stacking armor plus attack and worry about min maxing, create a solid build on lvl 40? Or will I run into some issues on higher levels?

[worn mango]

Run whatever stuff you have that has higher numbers essentially. And even min/maxing after 40 wouldn't be probably till you have a few hundred SHD level at minimum

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say even until they hit post 1k really since mix/maxing requires a sheer amount of materials

[brisk hollow]

Ah fair enough, so after SHD 500-1k I start to create a solid build to my likings. Before that is just higher numbers and pewpew?

[worn mango]

Basically. You'll want a semblance of some build just so you have some synergy but getting it to max stats is not really a priority

Grab a Striker, Heartbreaker, Hunters Fury, Ongoing Directive build. Read up on em so you know what you're looking for and run from there

[brisk hollow]

Like the set pieces to get extra % of stat X

[brisk hollow]

Great gotcha

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much your highest priority after hitting 40 is sacrificing gears/weapons for stats and talents in your tinkering library

[worn mango]

Yeah, getting that built up is integral

[brisk hollow]

Yeah still have to learn and read upon tinkering.

[cerulean smelt]

the stats in your library determines how high you can get your stats on you gear and weapons. 14.5% max in your library then 14.5% is the highest you'll get on your gear and weapons

[brisk hollow]

Whatever I don't use I salvage for mats.

[brisk hollow]

Is that highest stat % determined by crafting or also for world drops?

[cerulean smelt]

just optimization

[worn mango]

Yeah, you can naturally roll a really high percentage but if it's not on something that you'll leverage right now to help you get other stuff, use it in the library so you can utilize later on everything else

Especially for AR, SMG, Chest and Backpack talents

And then core rolls along with crit chance/damage

[brisk hollow]

So before I salvage I check if the stat(s) are high rolled and place that in the tinkering library so that will be the max % I can get? Will check youtube for this one how it works hehe.

[cerulean smelt]

when you're looking at the attributes you'l see small white arrows underneath it. that indicates how much you have in your library

just wait until you come back asking about expertise (> <)

[brisk hollow]

Haha I've read a little bit about that yes

[keen meteor]

Countdown my love, i must offer 5 billion rifles to the workbench

[cerulean smelt]

for me, i feel it faster just watch muling (> <)

[keen meteor]

Honestly it probably is

[cerulean smelt]

probably a hell of a lot faster if you got 7 people to carry you through countdown though

🤔 wonder if the infnite spawns in Anderson mission can speed that up?

[keen meteor]

I mean countdown is just reliable for any form of general loot pool farming

[dreamy valve]

Seems to work very well in legendary

https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/1iypbbw/new_refactor_set_in_team_striker_with_modifiers/

Your team just attacks everyone out in the open since the sustain is so fast

The modifiers will further make it op

[cerulean smelt]

when you have max momentum and the turret/drone = constant OC?

[keen meteor]

The seasonal mod works so well with skill builds I love it

[dreamy valve]

Prob, I gotta do my own testing

[cerulean smelt]

curious how tanky a foundry with oxpecker and the couple of modifier's would be like

[dreamy valve]

Probably overkill

Although Oxpecker does drain your shield faster if you have more cores for it

[keen meteor]

I wanna slot Oxpecker into a goofy HF build

How’s the dps on it?

Decent burst?

[cerulean smelt]

in PTS i only used it on a red strikers and shield didn't flinch except when things behind me

[keen meteor]

Mmm

Does it proc repairs if the shield isn’t out?

[cerulean smelt]

yes, shield not out will repair like usual, but not sure if shooting it without shield out repairs the shield

[dreamy valve]

I’m thinking about using perfectly efficient with perfect energize with Refactor. OC charge on demand with a good chance to not use up kits when you do the quick armor kit heal

[cerulean smelt]

skill damage and?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah

[keen meteor]

Perfect efficient is on belstone, no?

Everyday carrier?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah

[cerulean smelt]

weapon handling? armor regen?

[dreamy valve]

I’ll have to test what gunna work for me when I get home

[cerulean smelt]

ah, never considered everyday carrier and monkey backpack though 🤔

[dreamy valve]

Gunna change a core to red and use technician spec

Although I’m hearing the bonus armor from refactor’s backpack is bugged in our favor

[keen meteor]

What is it, like 80%?

I forget

[dreamy valve]

If the bug was intentional, then the set is even more powerful

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, you can even fast travel and it'll still be there

[vivid timber]

Vigi bag ❌ bloodsucker🗿

[subtle bluff]

nah just hotshot

[worn mango]

What is even happening there lol

[subtle bluff]

Me having fun with silly ideas of Hotshot

[vestal ibex]

Blue hotshot build lol

[worn mango]

Seems cursed

[subtle bluff]

I think that was only 2 or 3 armor cores too. If I had full blue it'd look pretty silly.

[subtle bluff]

nAh cursed is that you can do this. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489468635333656576/1320246494300868629/Tom_Clancys_The_Division_2_09-22-2024_15-50-25-403.mp4?ex=67c0929d&is=67bf411d&hm=b34506b4fd6fc534b42dc6cd5fe4df87edbb97e05a9b833ec4c8fd278bfbedee&

[vestal ibex]

Any build is viable bro

[subtle bluff]

True but I don't like say that because then all the tank boys come out and say SEE I CAN USE TANK...

[vestal ibex]

That builds armor is only 174k lol

[bitter orchid]

anyone got a skill build i can copy?

[bitter orchid]

thank you

[vestal ibex]

I'm messing with you that's a horrible build to use for anything but a couple specific task.

Hit up the pinned spread sheets in this channel.

[shy willow]

I was wondering why overwatch was on it

[bitter orchid]

aight also why is the gear blue?

[solar berry]

skill dmg

[shy willow]

Colour blind settings

[bitter orchid]

hm i see

[vestal ibex]

Foam and fire sticky, the fire sticky to unalive myself...

[solar berry]

as most status ill get is bleed smg or bleed gearset

[worn mango]

OD superiority

OD using the new burn pulse is actually kinda fun

[cerulean smelt]

imagine the amount you can get if you put the 4pc refactor with backpack on then hot swap to hotshot XD

[magic pilot]

Omg I love that you did this

[magic pilot]

wtf lmao

[hexed steppe]

Yes, mortar... always mortar
https://share.evernote.com/note/51fa758d-4829-205b-d0d5-f61b472eb392

Determined hotshot seems to be riding tier 4/oc on the momentum meter, from the short time I played this new season.

[fair dragon]

Pure skill variant (ignore the LMG)

[shy willow]

Where strategic alignment sir

[solar sable]

I don't even know what momentum is but it sounds amazing

[shy willow]

Stacking damage/skill damage, ROF, movement speed buffs

Max momentum gives overcharge for as long as you can keep it up

Which is absolutely diabolical

[solar sable]

holy shit

now that gives me a lot of motivation to play again

[shy willow]

Skill builds are eating good with all the modifiers but everything is more busted now

[hexed steppe]

alot of the time im running aound with 7 revive charges and an oc decoy that lasts a ridiculous amount of time

[shy willow]

I wonder if lady death/Acosta knees stack with momentum

[hexed steppe]

would be interesting to see. its already like a speed hack or something

[forest trail]

what do i need to target for vindicator
sniper?

[tacit goblet]

if its the exotic Urban MDR you need it get it from Descent

[forest trail]

only?

and what do you need to do there to get it

[tacit goblet]

I dont know the exact details but i think you need to get from Descent and Farm NSA Tech

Get it by Killing named enemies in Descent

[forest trail]

kk

[bright raptor]

As he said, do loops of Descent and earn NSA tech until you get enough to buy it from Wally

The Vindicator cannot be reconfigured, but the one sold is rerolled daily so you can wait until one shows up with a damage to out of cover roll

[pure viper]

is ongoing directive still good with vile and bluescreen?

[subtle bluff]

Never was "good" with either thing.
If you're using OD currently the BiS is Sadist weapon talent

[shy willow]

Replace with pesti and it's good

[visual python]

What brandset should I prioritize for a 4pc striker with coyote? Grupo, Fenris, Ceska, etc.....

[subtle bluff]

Ceska

[subtle bluff]

It depends on your CHC with the weapon your using most of the time Ceska.

[visual python]

Most of my weapons typically have slightly over 30% CHC with mods, attributes that are rolled, and chest piece combined. Still striving to get in the mid 40% while also having 160% or more CHD if possible.

[subtle bluff]

You want to have 50-54% CHC then rest into CHD

[tacit goblet]

I just got Eagle Bearer what can i do with it

[hexed steppe]

eagle burger is a great exo component
dont delete, fit it into a dps setup

[hexed steppe]

the better your crit chance, the higher the dps output will be. quick way to see best option would be multiply crit chance and crit damage for each possible config. in your case it would be with and without the ceska

[visual python]

Yea I'm working on it still. So far any CHC over 30% is solid for me, I can sacrifice some CHD for more CHC if that's what I need to do.

[bright raptor]

yeah check how much you're getting from your gun and gun mods, pushing for 50% crit chance then the remainder crit damage

[visual python]

Going to get back to doing control points soon so I can unlock more weapon mods. There might be some more muzzle, optic, and magazine mods that I'm missing that give more crit damage and chance.

[forest rampart]

is there a space/website I can go to for builds? I've just got a strikers & FI healer build, I'd like to branch into skills, but Im pretty stupid and would prefer to follow a guide, YT builds often feel like clickbait or only seem to work at all with absolutely perfect roles

[bold leaf]

I've seen Memento work well. Acostas bag works well for the overcharge.

The gearset backpack is only really worth it if you're solo and need bonus armour

and yes it works in legendaries, if one or two are using it. Works best with a FI player too in my experience

Ha yeah definitely. Two refactor, skills of your choosing, one FI and one striker will get things done pretty well

It's time for a 5 blue, 1 red, tactician, deflector shield pvp build

[fresh fox]

no

[forest rampart]

how much ally repair should I target for FI before focusing on skill haste?

[fresh fox]

it’s horrible in team setting

which is where a healing build would be used

[bold leaf]

The usual FI build has 4pc FI including the chest, The Setup and BTSU gloves. So skill haste isn't really needed.

[cyan drift]

ideas besides sledgehammer instead of scorpion, and getting rid of that one blue attrubite (because I can't craft murak chests)

I'm an idiot and didn't do 3 monkey

[forest rampart]

so Im safe to just max repair? Ive got just shy of a 1M rn

[bold leaf]

Yeah I would do

[fresh fox]

why not just use FI

or are you doing something different because bored

[bright raptor]

the shiny monkey proficiency won't accomplish itself

[fresh fox]

with enough riches it can 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[cyan drift]

funny drone for backup calls

so... more or less when I'm bored, yeah

[fresh fox]

gotcha

but yea use scorpio + sledge + pistol with reformation

[cyan drift]

makes sense

[cyan drift]

from what I've seen so far, it heals like 450k per second from the drone and reformation

that being said, the drone is wildly inconsistent with when it heals things, and it gets stuck all the time for no reason

[subtle bluff]

#td2-build-advice message
Here's the FI Healer guide I posted awhile ago

[west geyser]

Is provacator just bad everywhere? Or can it be useful in PVP

[fair dragon]

Everywhere

[winged prism]

anyone have stats for the new exotic mp7

ik its like berserk in some way right

[fair dragon]

It's mid

[winged prism]

aw

it looks so cool

[subtle bluff]

If that.. The base stats got nerd soo hard from tu21 to tu22 I don't even care about the gun.

[fair dragon]

What? He's referring to the Oxpecker

[subtle bluff]

Yeah MP7 is it base gun I was talking about.

[hazy steeple]

Wasn't mp7 just buffed?

[winged prism]

yeah mp7 has always kinda sucked, thats why i was hoping oxpecker would be a rly fun and usable gun, could still be the case cause idk the exact talent

[hazy steeple]

Yeah, the reload was dropped from 1.91 to 1.6

[shy willow]

Your shield decays but hits with the gun regenerate your shield for 25 percent of damage dealt

It's okay if you feel like being tanky I guess but meh

[hoary sail]

Left because u will deal more dammage so more heal for u nd ur mates

the heal is scale on ur skills dmg

i tested it with two hana (the named backback, chest gc) nd 4 piece reflactor. 1 with armor nd other with skill tiers. skill dmg nd haste

[subtle bluff]

TU20

SMGs
MP7, Swap Chain: +5% Weapon Damage, +50 RPM
It was good balance to be useable in tu20 and 21 but last season tu22 it was a huge hit for it.

[forest rampart]

for a drone/turret skill build, the spreadsheet says 3p EMI 1 Wyvern, then 2 of a list. Would 3 EMI, 2 Hana-U, and waveform work? since the 10% dmg from 2 Hana would replace the 8% of wyvern?

[tulip charm]

I should probably do that before they patch it

[sullen sun]

I think it’s today? According to Reddit

[trim hemlock]

How do you do it?

[tame crane]

Did they say on reddit that the gun range wont work for the Journey anymore?

[fresh fox]

yes

[digital burrow]

Anyone have any thoughts on a sniper build that does high damage to body , not headshots? I'm not a headshot kinda player

[urban latch]

Sniping in this game is all about using headhunter. If you want to do bodyshots then just use determined. You'll need a headshot to get things started, but you can do bodyshots after that. Its honestly broken OP

[raven inlet]

Straight up broken.

[digital burrow]

@urban latch Im playing legendary. I tried determined wasn't working for me well. Had to keep resetting . I was missing and I play on console. I know body shot won't do 20mm like a headshot but maybe in the 5mm range with the right build comb

[vestal ibex]

Simply put you will not one shot boddy shot unless you drop diff to like normal or hard unless you use determined HH.

[raven inlet]

Shoot you’re looking at running nemesis with marksman gear pieces for the crazy damage then. Besides that, Determined headhunter is just THE sniper build to throw you bud

[vestal ibex]

Determined HH legendary 4 man is easy enough as long as you know how to restack after chungas/dogs.

[tame crane]

This is the desired roll on a LMG exotic right? DTA as the small attribute?

[vestal ibex]

90% of LMG builds would benefit from CHC more.

[tame crane]

Gotcha, what about exotic rifles like Diamondback? I have one rolled with DDTOOC, but also one with max HS DMG, is there any use for that?

[urban latch]

taking 5m shots with a MMR is just going to be a very low amount of damage, and you will really struggle doing that much, especially on legendary.

[tulip charm]

dttoc will always be better

[digital burrow]

What about swapping mmr for a rifle then.
So higher rpm - more dps to body. Make sense ?

[urban latch]

A rifle would be better, you can check out the standard dps guide in the pinned google doc, its basically a rifle build

[digital burrow]

@urban latch thx

@raven inlet not bad. Ill try thx

[raven inlet]

For sure.

[hexed steppe]

Check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel. Solid builds , community built, and usually the authors are floating around in the chat here

[timber dagger]

Any new metas post shiny monkey and refractor gearsets?

[sullen sun]

Do you guys feel double Habsburg is better than Airaldi etc?

For a sniper build

I feel you want a mix of weapon dmg and HS

Am I wrong?

[shy willow]

double habs is technically meta but good luck finding the unicorn pieces

[fresh fox]

it is

period end of story

but the habs unicorn is a pain to farm

[vestal ibex]

Better as in bigger numbers sure, functionally better no, you aren't hitting new break points so they are functionally the same build in almost all cases.

[sullen sun]

Better for PvP?

[vestal ibex]

Don't know what a meta PVP sniper build even looks like.

[sullen sun]

I use Yahaal and GC

[vestal ibex]

Figure that would change depending on nem or determined too.

[sullen sun]

I use both tbh. Ranger, Determined, just depends

[bitter orchid]

Im confused about the section about fast hands.
so if I don't have the fast hand talent I will not build stacks per pellet? So I should go for ACS-12 with fast hands over rock&roll?

[tulip charm]

You can. Fast Hands just makes it reload practically instant.

[urban latch]

Pgc for pvp, chainkiller for pve. Double habs is a myth pushed by people who don't understand the numbers

[vestal ibex]

What ACS you choose depends on your goal with it and build you use it on. Do you only stack and put it away? Do you actually try to kill and do damage? Is that just 1-2 kills or is it a streak of kills? 100 or 200 striker stacks?

[bold leaf]

Double red habs is also a myth

[urban latch]

I honestly think the fact that's it's difficult to get is part of why people feel the need to use it lol