td2-build-advice

[drowsy shuttle]

i dont get it, i can just start the countdown but i dont find option for shotgun

[patent fossil]

Open map, look at the bottom of the screen for the button prompts, one of them says 'target loot'

Setting target loot in the summit will also set it the same in countdown

[drowsy shuttle]

is it " show target look " ?

maybe i didn't unlock the option to do it ?

[patent fossil]

If you're in DC you need to highlight the mission on your map to see the option

[drowsy shuttle]

like i press F on it ?

i found it

thanks for the answers !

so i can target sniper and my bro can target shotgun ?

[viscid coral]

I just recently returned to the game the other day, after 2 years. A lot has changed and I was wondering where I can get a lexington. I checked my inventory, my mailbox, and my alt character too. It's nowhere to be found. Is there another way to get it now, and what are the best game modes for grinding maxed out gear?

[solar sable]

Yes, everyone has their own TL so there's no conflict between each person's go-to.

[solar sable]

You can't get Lexi, for now at least.

It was a limited time reward

[viscid coral]

aw man

that blows

[solar sable]

Maxed out gear is more rare than exotics. Countdown (Challenging difficulty) and Summit.

[viscid coral]

is countdown doable solo?

[solar sable]

No, it's a 8 player mode

[viscid coral]

gd lord

is it a raid?

[solar sable]

Everyone matchmakes for it so there's no issue

[solar sable]

Not quite

[tulip charm]

I mean you can solo carry for sure

Its just a mission where you do 2/3 side obj and one main one

[viscid coral]

so solo or no solo?

[solar sable]

I'd recommend not to go solo

[viscid coral]

thx

[solar sable]

Plus, no one can steal each others loot/drops

[viscid coral]

ya fk dz

[solar sable]

You can stay chill if that's a concern

[viscid coral]

are skill builds still viable for legendaries? I'm still rocking my seeker spam build with stinger hive.

[tulip charm]

They're alright but people perfer cc or fi for leg

[fresh fox]

i mean i guess but like your team won’t be too happy

would complete stuff faster with a support skill build or just a full red

[viscid coral]

why not? i usually get top two in damage

[fresh fox]

have people been running actually good builds?

[viscid coral]

it does decent cc as well. spamming seeker mines every 5 seconds

[viscid coral]

I'm not sure, i've been teaming up with randoms the last couple days since I came back to the game recently

[fresh fox]

so probably not

as long as you clear the content at the pace you want to whatever

[viscid coral]

ah I see. ty for your input

[vapid quarry]

Any good builds for lady death?

[kindred marten]

HF seems to be the most common with Lady Death

[lapis parcel]

Is this a decent crit build for rifles?

I ask because I could continue rolling my coyotes at crafting I just don’t know how lucky I’ll be.

[kindred marten]

Pretty damn good, especially for your SHD, nice job. You could run the Contractor’s Gloves for the DTA, or the Eagle’s Grasp Zwia gloves if you want more handling. Those are just alternatives though. You can definitely run it like this.

[lapis parcel]

Thanks. Alright I’ll probably give it a whirl.

[bleak sequoia]

what's the backpack talent? Looks like Creeping Death but I'm probably wrong since I can't see any status effects on the build

[hexed steppe]

why creeping bag?

[kindred marten]

You’re right, that is Creeping Death. I get that and bloodsucker mixed up sometimes. Yeah, that talent should be Vigilance or Bloodsucker for survivability. Or Unstoppable Force even.

[lapis parcel]

It is Creeping, I am using it because my vest has a maxed status effect slot and I have Vindictive on my 1886

[hexed steppe]

no status then status effects are useless

at least not worth speccing into

[lapis parcel]

Also because I use firefly and popping weak spots has a tendency to trigger status effects so I get that value

[hexed steppe]

go vigilance

look into eclipse later for a status build

[lapis parcel]

I need to get a new bag, which I could just run some floors on summit to get. I’ll probably run with this to get that.

[bleak sequoia]

do you know about recalibration?

[lapis parcel]

Yes

I have it recalibrated already so I need a replacement bag

[bleak sequoia]

yup, makes sense. Sounds like you can just target z.o.o. on countdown and farm chest and bag at the same time

[kindred marten]

Also, I was gonna mention Fire. With Coyote Mask, you can keep your CHC just above or at 50% because the range you play at will give you the extra CHC you need to cap out. That’s why a lot of people use Contractor’s because you get the Damage to Armor roll instead of an extra slot for CHC, which you can typically account for with the rest of the build.

[fresh fox]

no they still use ceska

[kindred marten]

Doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. Personal preference. And he has Ceska already.

[fresh fox]

is this strikers or high end

[hexed steppe]

it may be worth farming a grupo vigilance for the bag, and eagles grasp named zoo glove. its just a brand flip/flop but eagles will give you some extra weapon handling

[hexed steppe]

highend #td2-build-advice message

[fresh fox]

ok my bad

then yea contractors goat

i should start reading context

but i don’t want to do that.

[hexed steppe]

you and me both

[bitter bronze]

i'm not da best at builds is dis good?

sometimes my gun total damage goes up to 109k

[fresh fox]

needs a bunch of work

check the spreadsheet in the pinned messages

[kindred marten]

Honestly, it’s a bunch of random pieces thrown together, so no. Your holster is a MMR piece, but you’re using Rifle/AR. 1-pc Legatus is trash, honestly. If you run the rifle semi-regular, run the Fox’s Prayer Kneepads. Replace the chest and holster with Ceska/Grupo. I don’t know how you wanna play though. If you keep Catharsis/Palisade and Gunner, I’d run everything red, that’s plenty of survivability. No Adrenaline Rush on that build though. Try to find something with Vigilance. And find a better rifle, since I’m guessing that’s the Everlasting Gaze. That is not a good one for a DPS build.

Run a different chest talent too, Focus requires a zoomed scope, which limits your view and less crits. Go with Obliterate, hell with that much AOK and the Catharsis healing, I’d say you could handle Glass Cannon. YMMV.

But the build spreadsheet is a good suggestion.

[hexed steppe]

i wouldnt glass a build that gets some of its damage from taking hits.

tbh tho, i would just suggest farming out a striker, nego, or hunters fury, and build using one of the spreadsheet guides. you can use the same chest and mask on either nego or striker, both strong setups. hunters fury could cover more of a defensive role since itll disorient and give armor on kill, pairs well with memento.

[vapid quarry]

why coudlnt it be dmg out of cover

[solar sable]

You're just unlucky, keep trying if you have enough exo components

[dreamy valve]

Remember to favorite the gear once you finally reroll to it

Wouldn’t want an accidental dismantle after going through all that

[vapid quarry]

my boyfriend got a god roll max stats .-.

as i struggle with being broke and no tbeing able to upgrade

[kindred marten]

I wasn’t talking about using it for damage, but for the survivability part. The glass part isn’t gonna hurt too much with 20% AOK. Or it shouldn’t. That much AOK should sustain him until the cloud. The extra damage would just be a bonus. I know Catharsis works better with more armor/tank builds since it’s 50% of a higher number. But, I’ve used it this way and thought it worked really well actually. But, I understand not everyone plays the same.

[hexed steppe]

glass for survivability , how do you figure?
the only reason to use glass is for the damage. using it in conjunction with catharsis really isnt synergizing well. something like oblit or spotter can boost damage without increasing incoming damage.

[shy willow]

Running blues with glass cannon is kinda contradictory

Like the armour will be worth nothing

[hexed steppe]

im not against glass tho, i think a lot more can run it with practice. but it doesnt synergize with the op current loadout

[shy willow]

Imo best on builds that have the DPS to kill stuff on sight cuz you're gonna be made of paper running it on anything

Or on skill builds where you barely ever leave cover

[hexed steppe]

this is where i would just swap out the build, it was correctly identified as somewhat of a mess. i personally would suggest hf memento for the op. it kinda gets that armor on kill mechanic while also being better at generating damage and kills.

[kindred marten]

Ok, I’m not gonna argue with you. If you read my last post and this one you’d see I was talking about using Glass with Catharsis. Your comment “i wouldnt glass a build that gets some of its damage from taking hits” seems to suggest that you understood what I was talking about it. Admittedly, that was an hour ago, so you may have forgot that you said that. But, the cloud from Catharsis is 100% survivability. If you wouldn’t run it, that’s fine. I have and likely will run it that way again as I like playing with Catharsis sometimes for the cloud. If you don’t think it synergizes, don’t run it. It was just a suggestion. I normally don’t recommend for new players to play with Glass, but I also do see some advantages to doing so, as it helps make you be more aware of your surroundings, making you a better player in the long run and felt like he could manage with as much survivability as he has.

[subtle bluff]

0.o

[shy willow]

⊙⁠.⁠☉

[hexed steppe]

thats what i meant with the comment. with glass increasing damage taken but catharsis needing hits to generate damage. also the fact there is no other significant damage sources i just dont think its a good fit. if it was build different and had solid synergy i wouldnt be so hard on the glass idea, but the setup as it is just doesnt have that... it could easily have oblit or spotter to have a damage buff without causeing increased incoming damage... catharsis and aok wouldnt need to repair nearly as much in that case

low synergy and low shd also implies the op is new to builds and could use some better direction than leaning into a bad build with one of the harshest chest talents

drop vile, full crit

[subtle bluff]

He’s right

[hexed steppe]

vile is bad on that. you need amps like glass or ep bag to use it effectively

i would coyote 100

[subtle bluff]

Don’t need coyote just more CHC and CHD

[hexed steppe]

itll buff the team while you also give them the bleed ammo

[subtle bluff]

If you’re running with a team sure.

No

[shy willow]

Sirs what about the forbidden triple tick

[kindred marten]

I agree with the rest of the build, I usually like to suggest ways to improve the current build rather than pointing them in an entirely different way, to retain the spirit of the build. Again, I feel like it helps in the long run to point out ways it might not be the best way to run a certain piece to get them thinking about certain aspects of making g a build rather than pointing them to a build or the spreadsheet, that’s all.

[shy willow]

Oh wait he's running blue screen not pesti

[subtle bluff]

Only good DPS for leggo is Strikers. Support builds there’ a lot of different stuff

[shy willow]

Ay where nego

[hexed steppe]

thats fair.

[subtle bluff]

Leggo requires DMG that’s reliable. OD is not reliable because it requires things to do die to keep up the HP rounds.

[hexed steppe]

Mortar Supremacy

every agent needs a mortar

[vivid timber]

would strega be a good gun to use with ND?

[hexed steppe]

the army of Lootcifer grows
🔥 😈 🔥

both are up to date.

[solar sable]

local is the author, he doesn't update anything /j

[subtle bluff]

It's alright. Nego kills won't proc Strega talent.

[hexed steppe]

i would push my own guide, but its unicorn intensive and not as easy to run. i would try the standard setup and then if you like it, go for something a bit more exotic

[shy willow]

It's pretty nice

[hexed steppe]

its a fun setup, ngl. i do a lot of team stuff so the btsu really gets a lot of use

[subtle bluff]

Ya motar isn't easy to run for sure.

[shy willow]

Refactor mortar could be pretty funny

[hexed steppe]

yellow contractors fits there as well

[subtle bluff]

Fun build once you get it down.

[onyx sage]

refactor headhunter with chem

i am burning the kitchen guys.

[subtle bluff]

Let me add some oil to that.

My thought of the new Exotic Weapon.. Use a BTSU instead. WIN.

[shy willow]

💀

[hexed steppe]

btsu gloves, perfect combined arms. about a mil or so damage

[shy willow]

Wait the deflector shield counts as skill damage right

[hexed steppe]

i havent even really looked into the stuff for next season yet

ymmv, i used it in leg dua with decent dps guys and it was good

[shy willow]

I'm gonna burn the kitchen down

Refactor with deflector shield

[hexed steppe]

no

[shy willow]

Healing as a tank

[onyx sage]

holy shit

[hexed steppe]

use hazpro eclipse i got a build for that as well

[onyx sage]

i think this actually will be good

[shy willow]

Like bro if you sit in front of a chunga

[tulip charm]

Can you even run deflector with the smg

[onyx sage]

refactor + deflector = reflector

🗣️

[hexed steppe]

hybrids or my profile

[shy willow]

Pistols only rip

[tulip charm]

Dreams crushed 😭

[shy willow]

But the deflections count for heals

Probably I don't have PTS

[subtle bluff]

If you haven't ran motar a lot it's not gonna good of the bat. You need to know the spawns for it to be really good in leggo.

[onyx sage]

right now it counts any hits that don't kill the enemy

[tulip charm]

Oh

[shy willow]

I wonder if the repairs heal shields

[onyx sage]

so if you kill the enemy in one shot it doesn't do anything

[hexed steppe]

this could also play into heroics as well. easy to get caught out if you arent used to the setup

[tulip charm]

Dien check if sniper turret can fully heal with the new gearset

[onyx sage]

if it doesn't kill with the hit

[tulip charm]

Oh 🤔

[onyx sage]

yeah idk if it works as intended, pts content is subject to change so keep that in mind

[tulip charm]

🤷

All they do is change some numbers most of the time

And leave everything the same

[shy willow]

Does refactor heal just armour or shields too

[onyx sage]

just armor

[shy willow]

Rip

Still wanna cook with the deflector

[tulip charm]

Go for it

Who’s gonna stop you

[onyx sage]

i'll only recommend stuff if it works on legendary or raid or icnursion tho

[hexed steppe]

looks interesting tbh. youll want to at least use a good bag talent since youll be trading chest off to the set. youll mostly be sd stacked with cap and the sd part of talent. btsu/hive and maybe oxi could be interesting depending on the use

[shy willow]

Im definitely gonna mess around with refactor to see if anything works particularly well when I get my hands on it

[onyx sage]

are you just getting started in legendary?

then the unfortunate answer is mostly still striker, but that's due to the fundamental problem you need to solve in legendary: damage

striker is recommended due to its ease of use over other builds that have higher skill floors

if you are experienced then there are some builds that can speedrun it

it's good

minitanks are the biggest reason why i don't recommend using HB over striker

[subtle bluff]

Yea.... The one thing I just throw EMP nade and hope the rest of the team kills it.

I'm HB for most of my LFG leggo. If it's with people that can do DPS well I will go Strikers.

[subtle bluff]

I wanna retry that Zoo again

[shy willow]

Minitanks are the bane of my existence

[subtle bluff]

We left like 4 mins on the table with the ending. LOL

[onyx sage]

some people would be like "oh just ignore the minitanks and kill the controller". the minitanks are meant to be in your way. they hit hard, stagger with nades and are for all intents and purposes the "second chunga". it's in everyone's best interest to kill them. it's very telling talking to someone who gives that kind of advice and completes tidal in like 1 hour 30mins over... 30mins

[subtle bluff]

Welcome to non-striker skill builds.

No that's the named on not that bad.

[shy willow]

It can be fiddly yes

There's other setups that will do less damage but are easier to farm

[subtle bluff]

TRUST us it's not that bad.

[shy willow]

At least you can shoot the ammo belts on chungas😔

[subtle bluff]

Ask us how long it's take to grind this...

[shy willow]

Can use the courier but it's not any easier to farm

[hexed steppe]

you can use perfect creeping , habsburg named courier. regular creeping on eletriqu/hanna u

ive used golan and habsburg creeping bags. being a team based build , ive found team kills fast enough. creeping is kinda redundant since the kills spread the foam anyways. this is why i switched to setup. just makes the kills faster

for use in legs, creeping might be preferred. but thats gonna be personal preference

itll be usefull in a few other skill builds for sure. like oxi , turret/drone, explosive builds that done need a specific chest

and its really not to bad finding any of the unicorns. ive got duplicate mortar setups on all 4 alts

them habsburg pieces are way harder to farm 😎

[fair dragon]

localdeck is not a talent

If you don't have a yellow-cored Sacrifice, you can replace the wyvern with 2 PC Hana-U. Either way, Glass Cannon is one of the key ingredients

[fresh fox]

can also do the 3pc empress, 2pc grupo, 1pc china version

[fair dragon]

No, whatever reason, do not use Empress

Skill health is an empty stat as far as a mortar build is concerned.

[fresh fox]

skill damage and skill efficiency

[hexed steppe]

its basically 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other. 2 hanna wyvern is pretty much the same as 3 empress damage wise... personally if i didnt have a setup yet i would shoot for 2 grupo, 1 china, 2 hanna (one being force multiplier) , 1 wyvern glass

[fresh fox]

i say run 3pc but actually don’t do that because the 1pc sucks..

#genius

[hexed steppe]

its just that the build is gonna change. once it does you would be farming to replace the empress

and be edged out of the best damage backpack talent

[fresh fox]

the unfortunate truth

[fair dragon]

What's skill efficiency again? Damage, haste, status effects, health, duration?

[hexed steppe]

all, yeah

also repair but obv not used

[solar berry]

essentially weapon handling but for skills

[fair dragon]

Man, skill builds have come a long way

Well, skill builds as in hybrids

[hexed steppe]

Skill Buckets™️

[modest creek]

Recently logged back on and I'm seeing where a new "lexington" AR was released. I did not receive this in my mailbox and I only have one character. Stash isn't full either. Any ideas on how I can get this AR?

[bright raptor]

It's in the Special Deliveries part of the mailbox

If it's not there you didn't log in during the eligibility window and are Sierra Oscar Lima until they give it out again

[steady ridge]

What yall think of this for DZ? I’ve been told its too good for my level lol

When I joined another dudes lobby for DZ, it was lvl 1000+ DZ and I was crushing them with it but they said i need get to lvl 1000 myself for it to do good

[trim wedge]

If you was crushing them at SHD 419 they might not be DZ players

But yeah it’s a standard meta build 🤘🏻

[steady ridge]

Only way it worked is when I shocked them then pulled the vector out

Otherwise I got obliterated

[trim wedge]

Yeah most people in DZ are proficiency level 27 and have to wipe the sweat off their hands 24/7 just play it nonchalantly and you’ll have fun

[solar berry]

Expertise ruined DZ abit 😞

[magic pilot]

not terrible

https://lite.evernote.com/note/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c

i would highly recommend checking this out

[tulip charm]

I mean its whatever terrible players with high expertise are still terrible players still beatable if you have no shd

[jaunty citrus]

Hi I'm working on building a FI healer build. I'm going 1 for 1 off the build FI Y6 S2 build on here, but was wondering how to check my repair speed peed in my stats, and could use some help

The only thing I'm missing Is a lefty, but I can get an ACS-12 and slap sledgehammer on it

[subtle bluff]

3 Stats into Skill Haste the rest Skill repair to keep it simple.

[jaunty citrus]

Ok, so work for only 3 attributes to be haste, then spam everything I can, including mods, to repair?

[onyx sage]

ye

[jaunty citrus]

Ok, ty

[bleak sequoia]

why 3 and not 2 or 4?

[fresh fox]

main focus is on the other attributes being repair

3 is just the left over amount of attributes after you get your give to a point where it heals a full red player in 2 give charges

[umbral helm]

Best tank build? For any content

[bleak sequoia]

wellif I have no blue cores I'm like a full red player right. So I should aim to heal myself in 2 hive charges and stop there

[umbral helm]

I have no pieces right now and wanna farm just don’t know what’s good for it as this will be my 1st

[onyx sage]

a tank build should not be your first, and tank builds are not good in this game

[subtle bluff]

We only use dedicated tanks in IH raid. Otherwise it's not very useful. Things needs to die faster or help support it things dying faster.

[cerulean smelt]

full red = all your cores are Weapon Damage

[shy basalt]

if you're just looking for a normal build for all content

generally it's recommended to do 6 red

though a 3R/3B or something works well too

if you're comfortable with it

something like this with an elmo maybe. although this is quite an old screenshot

[magic pilot]

Famas with fast hands is still a really good option

Shotgun I would change to brazen that's about it. Technician if you want another shield tier but I'd keep gunner imo

[vapid quarry]

yall got any recs for pestil?

[tulip charm]

Best is HE

But the gun can work in any dps build

[vapid quarry]

whats he, still learning all the armor in this game

[tulip charm]

High End

the yellow pieces

[cerulean smelt]

i got an intersting one with ninja bag, true patriot and arca buz(bus)?

pretty fun using Pestilence with an 180 round magazine if you ask me XD

[vapid quarry]

im just trying lot of shit rn, usign whatever i can to stop myself from abusing striker

[solar sable]

headhunter

[mint shuttle]

what kind of build do you guys run for the DZ to deal with Rogue agents

[cerulean smelt]

ohhh, might have to put a hunter's fury build for the new exotic smg 🤔

[vapid quarry]

striker elmos

melt them before they can shoot back most times

[mint shuttle]

i just die so fast lol

[vapid quarry]

i run around with around 750k shield, i just play high ground and get chip dmg when theyre unaware

even when right in front of them, not an issue

[mint shuttle]

what about skills? jammer pulse?

[vapid quarry]

clone and pulse is what i use

cuz i pop rogue often

[mint shuttle]

i just want to be friends in the DZ 🤣 but everyone just wants to kill me

[vapid quarry]

no friends in dz, everyone dies .-.

[solar sable]

I'd rather use something that kind of holds those rouges ||💅|| that run with tier 6 Defender Drone

[vapid quarry]

i got lucky, never met any of those. especially cuz i run as a hunter duo. duo pops emp off rip once i active rogue

[mint shuttle]

but i am just a solo please don't kill me 😂 😭

[magic pilot]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c

[cerulean smelt]

my one build i had. i did the kneepad exotics uh, forget the name, but it charges up when in cover?

[magic pilot]

https://youtu.be/1f3gLynh3Cc?si=fQX92QJQuiTsNyWd
sawyers, its end up being not very good

[solar berry]

Sawyers knee pads, no explosive stagger but stay in cover without moving chargers up more weapon dmg for 10s

[magic pilot]

TWD

[cerulean smelt]

thanks, i just remember they were exotic knees and remember ninja knees too was like was there another exotic knees i'm forgetting in there? XD

[solar berry]

TWD?

[cerulean smelt]

total weapon damage

[solar berry]

O…

[solar berry]

Mmm, Acosta?

[cerulean smelt]

is there an acosta knees too?

[magic pilot]

Yes

[cerulean smelt]

oh right those knees XD

assume ninja bike was the reload talent after vaulting or doing cover to cover?

[solar berry]

Both

Cover to cover and vaulting

Plus 5s 25% bonus arm for performing action

[vapid quarry]

whats the highest it can do on it? hero?

[fresh fox]

anything

[magic pilot]

I've ran legendary with it

[versed summit]

Just use third empress tbh. Waveform fluctuates too much for mortar

[magic pilot]

Just use empress like @versed summit said

[versed summit]

Don’t really want all your damage going to the drone when you’re really just trying to use mortar. Also tbh I’d use an explosive skill. Sticky or cluster seekers

[cerulean smelt]

Skill Efficiency is Skill Damage, Skill Haste, Skill duration and Skill health far as i can remember

[versed summit]

Skill damage is the big one here, but haste, duration, status effects, skill health.

[cerulean smelt]

lol, wasn't sure about status efffects honestly but would make sense

[fresh fox]

its every yellow attribute essentially

[cerulean smelt]

i just kind of figured like Weapon Handling = Stability, Accuracy and reload speed. thought the skill efficiency followed the same mechanic XD

ohhh bot scam spam for a different game?

[onyx sage]

can i buy a legendary zoo wr pls

[hexed steppe]

Use a 3rd empress there

[hexed steppe]

Thatn skill repair, and status effects

Once you do get the btsu, swap the leftover empress pieces hanna u or yellow grupo if have

[strong cave]

I won't accept the gift but would you like build advice instead? We could probably help you build better netiquette to keep you from getting hacked

System Corruption, otherwise known as a "VPN", Hides your internet traffic from outside attackers trying to access your important data. Simply hold "V" to fix your computer and hide your identity for 5s. Cooldown for this ability is 20s

Oh, 15s with the plate. I hope this helps 🔥👌

[magic pilot]

Thx guys 🙌🏼

[strong cave]

:( damn. Funs over

[cerulean smelt]

was like "you were having fun without us? how dare you" then saw deleted message and was like oh right that fun

[strong cave]

Fun went by quick, like the drop of a decoy

🥷

Why is it so subjectively fitting rn this guy's display name literally has "Hide" in it and I'm talking about a decoy and post a ninja emoji

💀 enough internet for me today

[cerulean smelt]

you sure?

[strong cave]

No, I'm fifty

🤪

[onyx sage]

who is kuchan and why are you hiding them

[strong cave]

They're trapped in a crate in DZ and there's rogues at every checkpoint

[hexed steppe]

Mortar Supremacy

1 agent at a time 😎

[strong cave]

Don't let conflict players catch you with that build on

[cerulean smelt]

my mortar build i farmed the crap out of it and love it. just dont' play often anymore though XD

[strong cave]

I let mine go too due to skill builds being ass tier this season

Frowned on heavily. You can sit and camp with a mortar and tier 6 hive. You can also spawn mortar too

[hexed steppe]

Once you get used to the travel time you'll become a surgeon like me 🔥

[hexed steppe]

Itll never happen

[tulip charm]

Enjoy it because most people dont run cav to counter it

[strong cave]

Rn the current skill meta is glass cannon, creeping death and vile with pulse. All skill haste and status effects with skill damage. Hazpro is the only way to counter or cavalier teammate

[tulip charm]

Cavalier

Yeah

[strong cave]

I keep cav tucked, trust me. Has shocker punch with it too

People are starting to come up with tick builds in pvp due to pesti buff

[tulip charm]

Make a separate char for pvp

[strong cave]

^^ I have 2, this is SOLID advice trust me

[tulip charm]

The inv expansion is for stash

[strong cave]

You're gonna need a new char. Pvp slots differently than pve

[shy willow]

Best to have a separate character for PvP so you're not clogging loadouts

[strong cave]

Lots of dupe pieces

[tulip charm]

If you need that then you have other problems

[strong cave]

Character

[hexed steppe]

Right now you have 900 total inventory with 4 agents

[solar berry]

same for div1, extra characters is just free storages xD

[shy willow]

PvP builds tend to use unique pieces too so there's no recycling

[strong cave]

I'm talking about your gear's Core attributes

Pvp is Armor reliant

With burst damage reliancy

[hexed steppe]

If you plan your builds you'll save a lot of space . A lot of then use the same pieces

[strong cave]

Yes. Plan them out, move pieces around. Division builds are puzzles. But never has 1 solution

[tulip charm]

If only farming a double crit ceska piece wasn’t aids

[strong cave]

Especially when you need double crit ceska with unbreakable to roll for armor. Still that piece eludes me

Having that on an all blue crit striker using EB in dark zone would be god tier with Tenacity

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[cursive gull]

what would be a better weapon combo, elmo/vector or lexington/ouro?

for striker

[bright raptor]

ACS-12 as the stack builder for your main one

[hexed steppe]

lexington ouro

[cerulean smelt]

oof, just watched a streamer play striker, 1 palisade, the liquid engineer, pestilence, drone and revive hive with modifiers destroying legendary

[bleak sequoia]

isn't that the MO of most streamers? Put on some niche thing and then use superior skills to destroy content and claim it's amazeballs.

[cerulean smelt]

usually, his video was about what build to use in master difficulty coming in a week supposedly

least waht he'd use and i was impressed

[subtle bluff]

Ya modifier. We do legendary without modifiers and none of those blue stuff.
It's all just understanding the game.

[shy willow]

Modifiers can carry some very weird builds

For showcasing builds or testing I wouldn't use them though it gives the wrong impression

[fair dragon]

Speaking of, I wonder what kinds of builds content creators are going to recommend, when the next season launches.

[magic pilot]

All red striker 🤞

[fair dragon]

Impossible

I wonder what in-between builds they manage to come up with

[onyx sage]

blue striker

[fair dragon]

That's the best case scenario tbh

[topaz void]

I was thinking of running this Exuro set for firewall, since it increases burn damage and burn duration

plus it upgrades the fire turret into this ring of fire turret

[unreal venture]

thats what i (basically) use as Firewall (ignore that its survivalist atm lol, snagging some points for it atm) :-p

the green are the Hunters fury i mentioned.

[topaz void]

to be honest I don't know what any of these things do just by looking at them

[unreal venture]

Set bonus (2): +15% Shotgun Damage. +15% SMG Damage
Set bonus (3): +20% Armor on Kill & +50% Health on Kill
Set bonus (4): Talent: Apex Predator
Enemies within 15m receive a debuff, amplifying your weapon damage against them by +20%.
Killing a debuffed enemy with your weapon disorients other enemies within 5m, and amplified weapon damage by 5% for 10s, stacking up to 5 times.

thats the Hunters Fury set

[topaz void]

ah that's not bad at all

[unreal venture]

so running Scorpio/Emelines Guard im getting that +15% dmg buff (on top of the dmg buff from spec tree to slot in for both), armor on kill (and Emelines Guard gives additional armor over time) and Apex Predator causing nearby enemies to stumble about as I do even more damage

also, Apex Predator has a nice extra benefit (imho) in that it triggers an icon over enemies heads when they are in range, even through walls and such

for gadgets i use of course Strikers shield with the specialization specific items and a +dmg in the other slot (that one can be a bit trickier/grindier to get), and the other gadget i kinda bounce around a bit on, defender drone kinda being the one i sort of stick to the most as an emergency dmg reduction

key thing to keep in mind is the dmg buff from strikers shield buffs your own damage, not just other party members, hence going with more close range weapons (plus the one firewall talent that causes enemies close to you to take increased damage from team mates)

the Zero F's chest talent will instantly refill your armor upon it breaking once every 55 seconds so a really handy "oh shit" effect given you are likely to be up close and personal

Mementos is just a good backpack for most builds but for FIrewall the Skill Tier is doubly useful in that it counts towards your shield strength (so 2 blue cores from zero F and backpack and 1 skill core from backpack, I swapped out the red core from hunter mask for skill core to get 2 yellow cores)

oh and of course Mementos also gives a decent chunk of armor (same with Zero F's)

[topaz void]

oh does the backpack have 3 core atributes?

[unreal venture]

yep

[topaz void]

damn that's nice

how'd you get it?

[unreal venture]

the easiest way (as far as im aware) is setting Targetted Loot for Countdown/Summit to Backpack and pray to RNGJesus :-p

i mean running any missions/areas where Backpack is targetted loot it can also have a slightly better chance to drop

[topaz void]

oh it drops from summit? I have a project for that

[unreal venture]

it can technically drop from anywhere, but if the content is Backpack targetted it then has an increased chance

just be sure to set targetted to Backpack first 🙂

[topaz void]

how often does the targeted loot refresh? I don't have any backpack targets anywhere

[unreal venture]

yeah, Countdown is faster BUT if you need to do Summit anyways....cant hurt to increase your odds hehe

also true hehe

[unreal venture]

with Summit/Countdown you actually set the targetted loot

all the other stuff resets every 24 hours (i think?)

[topaz void]

oh ok that's cool

[unreal venture]

i agree...but can also get em via Summit weekly/Priority objective (one of those "if you line it up") as an alternative to mindless grinding Countdown hehe

[topaz void]

I don't see countdown anywhere I'm not sure I have it unlocked

[unreal venture]

it SHOULD be in the open world map, over on the right side near Summit/Descent

its been ages so i dont really remember what the requirements or whatnot are to unlock Countdown lol

[topaz void]

yeah no

[unreal venture]

yep, Pentco Power Plant

the green circle

[topaz void]

oh

[unreal venture]

hover over it and there should be a mention of "hold [button] to open Countdown menu"

set it to Challenging and enter matchmaking (again..just be sure to set targetted loot to Backpack first hehe)

be sure to stick with the group and beware the Hunters

There is a decent named backpack that i use as like a "backup" if I need to swap out my exotic armor item to something else (like Ridgeways for bleed or whatever) but I would need to get back to my stash to get the name. I think its [something Go Bag]

[topaz void]

does the difficulty need to be challenging to get exotics?

[unreal venture]

no but generally speaking most people run Countdown on Challenging or Heroic

[topaz void]

ah

[unreal venture]

the higher difficulty increases chances at better loot (can get exotics at like hard) but also the likelyhood of actually getting a party at Hard or lower with Countdown is slim

[topaz void]

well I'm going to do summit first for my project

it's a free exotic cache

[unreal venture]

yep, and set it for Backpack to "double dip" potentially 🙂 increase your chances overall

[onyx sage]

well caches don't care about your targeted loot, it's just an extra exotic source

[topaz void]

do you get these keys the same way you get all the other keys or?

[onyx sage]

no, it's within the 3 floors you've been through, hidden somewhere

[unreal venture]

i mean true but while they are working to get that exotic cache they can also increase the chances at getting Mementos itself via targetted loot

[onyx sage]

i know, but that is not "double dipping"

[unreal venture]

shrug increasing backpack chance (for exotic backpack) while working to get exotic cache (for exotic backpack) imho is two chances at getting it hence "double dipping"

i suppose technicallity/phrasing choice

[onyx sage]

double dipping means something different

like one proper example of its usage is saying "dta double-dips your negotiator's dilemma spread damage"

because dta increases two things at the same time

here, targeted loot only affects the drop chance, not exotic chance to drop what you want from exotic caches*

[unreal venture]

yeah...getting into semantics here....not really seeing a reason to debate it further :-p

[onyx sage]

i clarify because i don't know if you also thought TL also affects the cache drops, beyond the semantics issue, but it's a relevant issue nonetheless

[unreal venture]

i know TL doesnt affect caches 🙂 but increasing chance of item category dropping (and thus exotic version of said item) while also working to get a cache that can potentially drop item (versus say doing the same project with targetted item as something else) is increasing the overall chance of one way or the other getting the item

[onyx sage]

we both agree on that, i just disagree on the use of the word "double-dipping" is all

it's widely used to mean something different, so i comment on that

[unreal venture]

shrug to each their own and whatnot...prolly safe to say gone well beyond the channel so 'nuff said 🙂

fixed my original message :-p

[onyx sage]

it's just fyi, but discussions like this happen often in this channel anyway

i don't really mean ill, just wanted to inform you on that alone

[topaz void]

👀

I got the go-bag you were talking about

not what I was going for but damn this thing is nice too

[onyx sage]

acosta is worth having, it's strong on certain builds

[unreal venture]

well thanks for reminding me to check out the other backpack hehe

[topaz void]

yeah seems rly good, it also came with already high skill atributes

[unreal venture]

and i was wrong on the name guess :-p

The Setup named backpack is what i was referring to (named Uzina Getica backpack)

cause enemies you hit take 15% more dmg and it has blue core and increases armor

oh right, and the dmg buff only comes from marksman rifles or shotguns and since shotguns are getting buffed via Hunters Fury

there could quite possibly be other named backpacks that could work/be better but the YT video I found the build from a while back suggested The Setup and since i got my Mementos I really only ever swap it off for the rare moment i need certain effects (best example again is Ridgeways for bleed effect for certain global events or whatever)

[topaz void]

what do you guys think would be better for a firewall build though? more survivability or more damage

[unreal venture]

i mean to use the spec-specific gadget and talents, which generally are more close range related id say a mixture of the two

cause of course dead enemies means no damage against you lol

but also since you are generally looking at trying to be medium/close range, gotta be able to at least take some hits without going down

as someone who for a while was going for like a tank build and used most, if not all, of the foundry set....going for high survivability works but also means it takes FOREVER to get through fights....and at higher difficulties can actually lead to getting overwhelmed (if running solo)

relatively hard to kill....but hit like a wet newspaper

[topaz void]

I've gotten two chameleons from the two exotic caches I got today 😭

[unreal venture]

i mean if one of them has damage to target out of cover would certainly say a decent weapon to use

[bleak sequoia]

it's actually a decent weapon.

[unreal venture]

otherwise can always scrap for exotic component (gunna need those for expertise) or use to get expertise xp

[bleak sequoia]

it's not a "best" weapon, but it kills things just fine

[unreal venture]

but yeah, it will certainly work

[topaz void]

yeah I like it a lot but I don't want 3 of them 🙃 , sadly none of them have target out of cover damage

[unreal venture]

be sure to talk to the lady in the crafting area (Inora? brainfarting on the name) to get the schematic for the weapon

[topaz void]

already did

[unreal venture]

good, then you can scrap 2 of the 3, and reconfigure the remaining one, aiming for taret out of cover for the 3rd stat

[bleak sequoia]

Chameleon is kinda what you'd use if you wanted an SMG that uses AR bonuses and ammo

[unreal venture]

lol yep

[bleak sequoia]

might be a good secondary for a hunter's fury close range build if you're using a non-exotic SMG as a primary. Run out of ammo for your SMG, pull out your other SMG that uses AR ammo

[unreal venture]

could certainly work n odoubt

though could also go with The Mop/Chameleon

wont get the SMG dmg bonus but will get shottie bonus and armor on kill

not super familiar with other named shotguns

[hazy steeple]

Well there's Scorpio, then there's the rest in a big pile on the floor.

[unreal venture]

lol yeah, Scorpio is the best for HF set :-p

[hazy steeple]

The thing about HF, is that you need to play within its very limited range in order to be effective. This does limit your options quite a lot.
IIRC Shotguns are best used along with it, when you have more of a focus on HSD (headshot damage) rather than crit stats. So a Shotgun in general with crit HF is less nice than something else. Scorpio being the exception, since it's so overtuned as to be basically a good MMR (sniper).

tl;dr Exotics probably aren't your best choice in most builds, unless they're filling a niche.

Your other option for HF (best used at Challenging, but can work on Heroic if you really need to) is an SMG for your main, and something with some range, for those times you absolutely can not get within the buff range. I've found a Rifle works best for those times, something that kills fast and is precise.

[topaz void]

what does HF mean?

[unreal venture]

Hunters Fury

[hazy steeple]

~~have friends, it's a great way to play. ~~

[unreal venture]

yep, i can agree on that for sure

hence why i swap between Emelines and Bakers Dozen depending on the area im heading into

[hazy steeple]

Baker's is good if you are still learning div2's weird aiming system, but if you're going for crit on the SMG, there's non-named options which work better.
Boomerang being a good all-rounder, works on a lot of setups, etc.

[unreal venture]

what i have also used is a G36 AR with the armor regen buff and Lady Death or Chatterbox

i like Emelines mostly cause SMG for the dmg buff from HR and armor regen as i rush through enemies in close range. Totally works for Challenge, can certainly be handy in Heroic if armor is dropping, I dont really touch Legendary so nuff said there lol

[hazy steeple]

Oh P.Preservation, yeah I guess if you need more healing than HF gives you.

[unreal venture]

I use Scorpio for enemies with heavy armor (chungos and named) to both punch through armor and get the stun/dot and then Emeline on "trash"

again...im sure for like pure dmg potential and such much better options

[hazy steeple]

It was only buffed fairly recently, but Killer was crazy buffed a while back, especially the DZ locked Dark Winter.

It's to the point where it's sort of the new Ouro.

[unreal venture]

yeah, since Emelines is basically Armor over Time and HF is straight up armor they kinda wind up working together if im in the thick of it

[hazy steeple]

How many yellow or blue cores do you have on your build?

[unreal venture]

2 and 2

[hazy steeple]

Just to make sure you know, yellow and blue cores both give shield tiers, so if you don't need the yellows for something else, your overall armour gained from the talents will be higher with more blues.
Try working towards a 3+3 (blue and red), assuming you aren't just using Memento of course.

[unreal venture]

4 HF, Zero F's, Mementos

[hazy steeple]

That is a lot of healing.

[unreal venture]

swapped HF mask to yellow core for shield and also to buff 2nd gadget (still kinda bouncing around on that one but defender drone for quick dmg reduction is my "main")

i stomp through Challenging, generally do alright with Heroic (havent really tried it without Season effects active lol)

[hazy steeple]

Okay go with me on this one, but just for a while, I think you should give a more damage focused HF a go.
You've got the bones in place already, just swap the chest to a ceska w/obliterate, the gun to something with a damge talent (Killer is really nice right now), and either the Firewall or Crusader shield, Firewall being overall better, but Crusader being good if you want the Armour on Kill from Gunner, or something else.

[unreal venture]

hmm....whats ceska buff?

mostly ask cause Zero F's buffs shotgun dmg by 10%

and ceska requires crit hit to boost weapon dmg

[hazy steeple]

Item specific weapon damage buffs aren't actually the full % that they claim, they work based off the gun damage before buffs are applied.
So on a full red build, 10% shotgun damage would only be about 2-3%.

[unreal venture]

ahh

[hazy steeple]

Yeah div2 is really tricky with the math stuff.

After a while, div2 kinda becomes a case of; "challenging is Normal difficulty", and the way you get there is by basically being more efficient at doing things. It can be hard to break habits, but knowing enemy placements, how the AI will react, how to use cover effectively, things like that, will make you way quicker at completing everything, and you'll be able to sprint through Heroic with the right build+knowhow+practice.

[unreal venture]

yep can totes understand that lol

going from my Foundry build to my HF build, and actually running Challenging content and getting through it in decent times changed it all up

Heroic i mostly just avoid cause I hate the "make a whoopsie and start over at the beginning" :-p

for me...rather stick with Challenging and while getting a lil less reward, dont have to worry about getting distracted or whatever and losing it all 🙂

that said...in terms of SMG, is there a better/preferred option to go for in regards to using Killer talent?

[hazy steeple]

I mean, the Talent depends on you, Killer is just really good right now for its damage, but something like Strained is nice and has been for a while.
even Fast Hands isn't terrible, since it increases your up-time, which does boost your overall DPS.

[unreal venture]

oh sorry, i meant in terms of SMG itself

[hazy steeple]

Oh and if you're using Technician and an SMG that can have the tech spec laser, Flatline is really nice.

[unreal venture]

SMG as Firewall to be specific

cause i know there are like certain AR's that seem to be BiS so to speak

[hazy steeple]

Div2 is a little more broad, but there are definitely "better" ones, so the SMG matters less than the Talent, but last I checked (and I'm sure someone will have something to say if I'm out of date), the CMMG Banshee, MPX are both quite good.

Basically, just take it slow and let yourself build up to the next Difficulty, Heroic is a jump-up, but it's doable with patience.

[unreal venture]

will have to check out those items, though at least for me Heroic is more a "stick with Challenging for lil less reward but guaranteed completion versus small improvement and make a goof and lose it" aspect 🙂

cause as someone over 1k SHD and Expertise 16 (for like comparison sake or whatever) i kinda struggle to see the reasoning to do Heroic over Challenging when it generally seems like the only difference is like an additional 100k xp. I mean looking at Roosevelt island, its 458k versus 366k xp and bosses drop the same amount of loot

while im also adding in increased dmg, armor and veterancy of enemies PLUS removing the aspect of respawning if i should goof shrug

[fair dragon]

If you could complete X activity on Heroic within the same amount of time as you do on Challenging, the extra XP is a win

[unreal venture]

oh yeah, in that aspect i totally agree

[hexed steppe]

that should do some good work, make sure you fill those mod slots

nice thing about this current setup, it can fill a couple different skill roles with some minor changes.

-current form for mortar,

-add waveform, replace china bag with empress tech support for turret/drone

-replace china w/ empress tech support bag, yellow skill damage contractor's, yellow skill damage fox's and you have a servicable oxi setup

[fickle sluice]

got back on the game recently after years and copied the striker build from the spreadsheet, feel like I am doing less dmg than iI should, anything major I am missing or I am just missing stats from stuff like expertise and shd lvl

[solar sable]

Expertise is a thing you'll get in the meantime.

Ceska chest should be all red, no blue atts.
Your SHD level is still low, so as you level up you're gonna deal more DMG. 10% on all Defense, Offense, Skill and Misc.

[hexed steppe]

missing a good amount of crit damage, some of that can be attributed to your watch tho. chance looks decent for running coyote. you running any hsd or handling rolls? if so it needs to be shifted to crit

fill chc on watch first, makes all builds easier to balance chc/chd

[shy willow]

How do I deflectormaxx

Gonna roll in sync on the kard but otherwise not sure

[fresh fox]

get your team to shoot svd at your shield

[shy willow]

Teammates bullets deflect?

[fresh fox]

yea

[shy willow]

That's hilarious

[fresh fox]

https://youtu.be/SY1SoJhyf_k?si=fmYOamb6W4i-HPxm

[shy willow]

Jesus💀

So does it scale the damage by weapon class or something

[fresh fox]

probably

[outer dawn]

For general healing purposes like Countdown and stuff, what's a better weapon choice between Scorpio or Dr. Home? I know Scorpio used to be a good option pre-nerf

[shy willow]

Scorp

If on bosses mosquito is also nice

[outer dawn]

Thanks

[mint axle]

bro that screen proportion 🤣

[native spire]

If I were to be a new player with basic gear. What would be the best build to clean up mobs with… ie clearing story missions

[placid latch]

pick your fav weapon and just play using drone tourette

pick gear with skill tier and let the drone turrette doing the job

[wooden dawn]

I recommend you use Kendra's Freedom Exotic Pistol.

[native spire]

So.. place turret and sit behind cover… ok

[vestal ibex]

Story mode is just run and shoot stuff, you should never need to farm/plan builds for it.

Just keep putting on new gear and it should be fine.

[native spire]

Sounds like a great idea. Loved my little sniper turret buddy anyway

Better than cough my teammates. It actually hits its target 50% of the time

[dusky beacon]

Some1 know how to Farm this Gloves?

[bleak sequoia]

Countdown + target loot Petrov. Generally if you want a named item that's not DZ restricted just target loot the brand.

[dusky beacon]

I Farm it at Countdown after 5h No Drop lol

[bleak sequoia]

RNG hates you 😭

[dusky beacon]

What is RNG?😅
I am from germany my english is not the Bast🥲😅

[bleak sequoia]

Random Number Generator

[dusky beacon]

Ahhh thanks

[vestal ibex]

Gloves as TL or petrov?

[dusky beacon]

Named with 8% dmg to armor

[vestal ibex]

Well you pick what you want as targeted loot while farming countdown, so what are you targeting?

[magic pilot]

His first language is German

[vestal ibex]

Your first language is English.

[magic pilot]

Still not fluent

[dusky beacon]

Patrov is my Target loot

[vestal ibex]

Sounds like bad luck then. That glove isn't gonna make or break a build so maybe farm something else?

[dusky beacon]

Is it a random drop?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, it's not locked to anything really.

[dusky beacon]

Only Bad luck

[bleak sequoia]

True Story: items only drop when you don't need them any more

[vestal ibex]

@magic pilot Can you edit the spread sheet? Iron lung source needs updated.

[junior vessel]

Sooo I got my hunters fury build together and now I wanna reroll the stats on it. The thing here that I actually don’t understand is if I rerolled one stat I can't reroll on the others anymore. Is it limited to one stat or am I stupid

[solar sable]

You can only recalibrate one attribute/talent/core attribute.

The attributes or talents extracted in your Library have infinite uses.

[junior vessel]

Ahh ok so I have to be lucky to get like 2/3 max stat so I can change the third on it if needed

[solar sable]

Rerolling is meant for exotics, as you need exo components and other materials.

[solar sable]

Max rolls are a lot more rare than exotics themselves. Don't look for a perfect roll, they just pop when they want.

[junior vessel]

Alright so get your build and then just play the game and the min maxing happens in the process I guess

[bleak sequoia]

Just needs to be close to max, optimization is not too bad if it's just one or two steps. You also get pro-rated costs for partial steps so if it's almost max the optimization is very cheap.

[magic pilot]

Sure, what needs to be changed?

[vestal ibex]

Shouldn't it say, "TL and exotic caches"

[magic pilot]

Isn't there a few exotics locked to exotic cache?

Catharsis is one

[vestal ibex]

Iron lung is a more recent one and I don't think it's cache locked until the BP is obtained but I'm not 100% sure.

[magic pilot]

I asked in ikia discord as well so I'll double check the page once I get a response

[vestal ibex]

TY bb

[magic pilot]

Updated

[vestal ibex]

I could kiss you.

[merry basalt]

Okay i need some advice, I'm working on a mantis build it preforms really good and fits my play style. The set im running are 2 hotshot , 2 ace (both for headshot %), a sacrifice for perfect glass cannon, and a ninjabag to hit the 3 piece for the gear sets. I'm at 300% headshot and I'm 1 tapping pretty much everyone. The build isn't optimized and I'm only expertise 4. I want to improve the build any advice?

I am on pc so that is another thing to put in mind as well since the console and pc space are 2 different territories

[solar sable]

Is that for PvP or PvE?

[merry basalt]

Pvp

[fresh fox]

use focus instead

the build i use on my mantis is
ninjabike
perfect focus
1pc habsburg
contractors
1pc breaking point
1pc hotshot

with like 2-3 armor cores including ninja

i don’t remember if it’s 2 or 3 so it’s one of those

does like 2.2m with very little focus charge

and without having to use glass

[merry basalt]

Yeah cause needing to stand still for a min to get the straight shot is really god damn annoying

It's gotten me killed a couple times

[magic pilot]

I'm pretty sure you can 1 tap most builds without focus or glass now

I'll have to do some mmr testing

[merry basalt]

Idk sacrifice is pretty god damn good though

For sniper builds it is

[magic pilot]

Yea but ideally you wouldn't use it

[merry basalt]

I can make it work, it's a steep learning curve but from what I've been seeing it's very effective. Plus since I'm rocking the Lexington as my secondary to finish targets off if they are pushing me I'm still utilizing the perk

Doesn't sound like it works but I've gotten in a few encounters today to where that Lexington really did it's thing

[fair dragon]

Do it

Not in here, obviously

[magic pilot]

I think you are missing my point

If you could run unbreakable over sacrifice and still one tap that would be significantly better, no 60% incoming dmg and no charging scope time

And you gain a fall back

[merry basalt]

Ill test it with the same brand set with unbreakable

[vapid quarry]

are these good stats? i feel like im doing too low of dmg if im not aiming for head constantly?

[merry basalt]

I'm just very anal on that 1 tap, ill just grab that same chest piece with headshot and ill try that ill still be at my 300% anyhow

[magic pilot]

I'm gonna do some testing as well with different setups, are you expertise 27 on mantis?

[merry basalt]

Gotta work on my expertise I'm only 4 rn I'm fixing to make mules tonight

But with the setup I have no it works flawlessly. I'll snip a screenshot when I get home later

2 piece hotshot, 2 piece ace, ninjabag

And the sacrifice ofc but that same brand is what ill grab

[magic pilot]

I'll probably test it at 27, just because that's the highest chance it'll work without glass/focus

[cerulean smelt]

you CHC looks pretty low

[latent comet]

@merry basalt I checked out your build and that headshot damage is absolutely wild. That build must shred.

[merry basalt]

Yeah I'm prob going to try it out with unbreakable instead of glass cannon

Same chest brand

[latent comet]

I love Unbreakable.

I either run that or Oliberate

[distant mountain]

For a drone build would use hardwire or rigger ?

[topaz spear]

Yall recommend sttandard red dps starting out

[latent comet]

Red DPS is all i ever really run.

Striker/negotatiors is all red and i melt usually everything with it.

Just get high CHC / CHD and ur good

[subtle bluff]

Any DPS weapon base damage build it’s always CHC to 50-60% (depending on coyote’s mainly) then the rest into CHD.

[rich lotus]

anybody know if this is worth making a build with

[magic pilot]

For PvP yes, pve no

[rich lotus]

ah ok thank you, new exotic I haven't seen

getting back into playing after like years

[magic pilot]

Yea it's good to counter shock that's about it

[drowsy eagle]

is possible to have a really tanky LMG build?

[magic pilot]

Yes but it won't do a lot of dmg

[cerulean smelt]

if you love the elmo so maybe? go around bashing people and watching them get shocked

[topaz spear]

based around the spreadsheet suggestions?

[latent comet]

I would yea. I based mine off of it vaguely and tweaked to my likings.

[hexed steppe]

it would be better starting with striker dps.

a lot easier to build, highend red is good, but its kinda outclassed by other options at this point.

[topaz spear]

seems I need a coyote mask and I can not find one to drop

[latent comet]

Jefferson Trade Center

Just spam it till you get it. I did it like 3 times in a row and it dropped.

[topaz spear]

what difficulty

[latent comet]

i do everything on Heroic

[solar berry]

Heroic for the best drop rate

[topaz spear]

I'm not strong enought for that 😦

[latent comet]

You can do it on challenging as well.

Not sure about the drop rate.

[solar berry]

It’s abit lower than heroic. Idk how much tho.

[topaz spear]

Jeffreson Plaza?

[latent comet]

Trade Center is the one with Coyote iirc

[solar berry]

Challenging is still good to drop exos. Can bang out a mission abit faster and do more runs overall

[topaz spear]

what is exos

[solar berry]

Exotics. My b. I just like saying exo for exotic

I do the same for destiny 2

[topaz spear]

makes sense. Want to run one with me? lol

[latent comet]

Was gonna say Exotics but I didnt wanna mispeak and it be something different lol

[latent comet]

Ill run

[solar berry]

True. Aberrations is different for its meanings to anyone

[topaz spear]

@latent cometsent you a dm

[latent comet]

Gimmie just a min. Cleaning my inv

[latent comet]

For sure.

[latent comet]

I got him that exotic first try and it was in the first part of the mission too lmao. I did good.

[hexed steppe]

better off farming mask target loot. that way the drop rate is actually affected by difficulty and directives if avail.
jtc is one 5% chance from the end boss iirc. if it was mask target today it would work better...

countdown still ideal because selectable target loot and chance from exotic caches.

welp, scratch that

[latent comet]

I actually got it legit first try.

Im like nah no way lmao

[hexed steppe]

🍻 all good

[latent comet]

and it was right there for him

[hexed steppe]

you must be making them Lootcifer sacrifices like clockwork
🔥 😈 🔥

[latent comet]

I also got another exotic in the same mission my luck was great lmao

[hexed steppe]

i kinda get a lot in missions as well, usually sawyers knee or sweet dreams , all good components

[latent comet]

I always get Sweet Dreams

Immediately deconstruct it lmao

[hexed steppe]

glad it all worked out. im happy to be wrong when something positive happens

[bleak sequoia]

Sweet Dreams is great for melee kill challenges during events

[latent comet]

Yea I have one in the stash so if I wanna do that its perfect for.

[latent comet]

For sure glad it did too.

[bleak sequoia]

so it dropped before you even killed Coyote?

[latent comet]

Yes

[bleak sequoia]

bloody hell

[latent comet]

First part of the mission. Never had that happen. DIdnt even know it could tbh.

[bleak sequoia]

that's it, you used up your whole year's worth of luck for this guy

[latent comet]

Honestly I'm pretty lucky in this game.

[bleak sequoia]

nothing but Sacrum Imperium in those caches for you forever

[hexed steppe]

im still farming damn waveforms. ive had a ton and just kept one. now that there was some rebalancing i need 3 more for my alts.. imp dynasty my normal drop when targetting holsters XD

[latent comet]

My bro always get pissed when I get exotics.

[latent comet]

Those are awful omg

[placid latch]

there is a talent giving armor when he open a shield

And another talent would be leadership

[subtle bluff]

There's a few talents that do this.

[placid latch]

Tardigrade can also give armor but it doesn't feel like it's that

[subtle bluff]

Check out the spreadsheet from the Pinned Messages up on the top right 📌

[placid latch]

Gavanisation

he got the icon

so the shield then

[subtle bluff]

🤢 TP.... Plz never made this. Use the Chest is fine but the rest is very underwhelming. Theer are ways to give more armor and buff the team.

[finite river]

Hello, just started playing div2 again after a couple of months of break. Is the new tip of the spear set bonuses a bit of a nerf? It feels a bit weaker now ://

[hexed steppe]

way nerfed. not worth building atm

most of the mmr builds have moved to hotshot gearset

[worldly hill]

Anyone know if refactor will be worth building for?

[solar sable]

and aces, right?

[finite river]

Aww man, I loved using it because I have the excuse of using the Tac-50 and its sweet ass sfx. I'll build a hotshot then. Thank you

[placid latch]

Aces also got overpowered by Hot Shot

It's more reliable, got more sustain and allow free reload

[solar sable]

I remember that aces got a buff but idk if it got reverted or sum

[placid latch]

Using Determined (which is broken), you can body headshot

[rich cosmos]

Aces got rifles, thats it

[placid latch]

you can even headshot Tank/drone or robot dog

and not loose your Head Hunter stack

[solar sable]

ig I was thinking of something else

[hexed steppe]

yeah youll like hotshot for sure. m700 carbon, sr-1, whitedeath, model 700 all do great damage. its worth getting stability mods on the weapon and some handling rolls on the gear. if you can get to 100% stability your scope wont sway when you ads

[hexed steppe]

i thought you lost headhunter , but determined would still reproc after the death animation

[placid latch]

yeah

[digital burrow]

Im new to all tinkering. When i remove for ex armor and want to transfer to another gear, the same amount of armor is transferred ?

[solar berry]

Ez ❤️

[solar sable]

If you extract 170k Armor from a chestpiece (max attribute), you'll be able to recalibrate that max att to other chestpieces. These extracted attributes/talents/core attributes have infinite uses*.

[placid latch]

you transfert the highest attribute extracted into the library

you can then transfert from library that attribute to which ever piece of gear allowed

there is max roll on each attribute

[cerulean smelt]

hence the need to extract all the highest amounts and building up your library after hitting 40

extracting the attributes and talents

[digital burrow]

I see

Whats the max roll

[cerulean smelt]

think weapon damage = 15%? or something of that sort?

[digital burrow]

And can u change everything on 1 piece of gear? Attribute, core and talent ?

[cerulean smelt]

all attributes have different values i believe

best method is getting max core and 1 max attribute of choice so you can change that 1 that's not maxed to whatever you need on yrou gear
considering you can only recalibrate one thing on weapon/gear

[mint axle]

you can only recalibrate one thing, but for endless amount. like, if u change the attribute for instance, the re calibration will be locked for the attribute on that item, so you can change the attribute endless times but only the attribute from now on, (with that item)

[cerulean smelt]

maximizing a lower attribute can get expensive with materials

and no you can't maximize a stat and then turn around and pull it off and putting it in your library. least i don't think it's a possibility

[placid latch]

depend on the attribute, know that a max roll is displayed on a gear with a strip passing on the gears corresponding attribute

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

On the spreedsheet, you should find what's the max attribute roll

Look at the attribute Range

[digital burrow]

@cerulean smelt what do u mean can get expensive? once u get max attribute then u transfer it and ur done . What am I missing

@placid latch ill check it out thx

[cerulean smelt]

to make say a 10% weapon damage to reach 15% max attribute takes resources and ecredits

even tranfering takes resources and ecredits to pull out from your library on your gear and weapons

[digital burrow]

Ah right so every transfer cost somtin

[cerulean smelt]

yes

gear wise i think they even go as far as requiring specific materials from each faction

[digital burrow]

Damn theree a lot to know in this game

I may need to quit my job to focus on this

[cerulean smelt]

eh not really, but there are things to note for certain stuff. once you learn them you'll realized how easy it is

[digital burrow]

I suppose just takes time getting used to

[cerulean smelt]

just a little time (> <)

[digital burrow]

Thx to all who responded

[cerulean smelt]

nods just keep asking questions. someone out there knowledgable about your question will answer hopefully and hopefully make it a bit more understandable

[steady copper]

hallelujah

[vestal ibex]

I don't see this in the patch notes, am I blind?

[dreamy valve]

Looks like a nerf to me

[fresh fox]

not what he’s saying

but it does end up being a buff

just not for burst

[dreamy valve]

Oh the reload speed?

Looks like they all had decreases

I couldn’t stand to use the Six12 anymore because of the reload speed now

[fresh fox]

no

he’s saying that people’s level 1 or 30 lexington have been brought up to 40

[vestal ibex]

Which I don't see in the patch notes.

[shy willow]

if they did it's not in the patch notes

[fresh fox]

nothing about it’s in game performance

[shy willow]

but I mean bravo if they actually did it

[vestal ibex]

Best stealth buff if so.

[dreamy valve]

I guess there’s always a few stealth changes that happen every season

[vestal ibex]

Oh def, idk why they wouldn't shove this in peoples faces tho.

Someone lied.

This is the level 40 items dropping on level 1-39.

[dreamy valve]

Helldivers does that a lot

[shy willow]

how tf do you have 3

[dreamy valve]

Yeah I only got 2

[hybrid hatch]

Dunno if this belongs here, but:

ATTN: yaahl mask at clan vendor for those yaahl gear materials

[dreamy valve]

Show them your 3 lexes to all the players who accidentally dismantled their one lexington

[solar lintel]

or the people who just ddidnt get it even tho they shouldve

[dreamy valve]

You can use all 3 skins for em

One for each

[vestal ibex]

rip

All those lex for what

[shy willow]

flexing on people who didn't get one

[magic pilot]

It was a bug

[autumn elbow]

so just curious, we were DZ farming last night and we got rolled up on by a group using all brandset pieces and bighorns and got absolutely shredded (including my friend who had probably around 3.4 mil armor with bonus armor)

What build did they use? i know its not much to go on but i figure the DZ pvp meta hasnt changed too much where theres a new meta build every week

Thanks in advance

Also i realize not a lot of info to go on but any help is appreciated

[shy willow]

headshot regen probably

bighorn is quite busted in pvp

[hazy steeple]

"bighorn is useful" is a wild statement, imagine reading that a few years ago.

It's up there with "backfire is good now, and people agree with me".

[shy willow]

backfire getting redeemed I don't think was on anybody's bingo list

[hazy steeple]

Oh it was always in my heart.

I swear the devs read my replies here, since they buffed the Dark Winter along with it. There's no way that's a coincidence.

[shy willow]

maybe sacrum has some hope

[hazy steeple]

My next vote is Dread Edict. I assume that's still awful.

[magic pilot]

It's listed in the pvp guide

Pinned google sheet

[autumn elbow]

I must have missed it...is it under the basics section link?

[magic pilot]

Yep, I added it more recently so that could be why

[shy willow]

dread actually has a really good amount of potential

[autumn elbow]

gotcha, thankyou 🙂

[shy willow]

in theory does crazy dps but entirely reliant on headshotspamming which isn't realistic

[steep jasper]

quick question and thanks in advance; whats the advantage of running 4 piece eclipse protocol for indirect transmission (10m status effect effect radius + 50% duration) when you can essentially get the same effect on courier with perfect creeping death (10m status effect radius)

[magic pilot]

Eclipse refreshes the duration

For non-dmg skills you run eclipse and creeping

[hazy steeple]

Btw whilst you're here, the order of tabs is a little wonky.

[magic pilot]

Which part? Can you send me a pic

[hazy steeple]

Roger

[shy willow]

eclipse spreads on death and the duration refreshes

and yeah like prod said you can run both

[steep jasper]

ah ok thanks guys, what would you run in the attribute slot: status effect dmg, skill dmg, haste, etc.?

[shy willow]

status effects on everything

[steep jasper]

got it

[shy willow]

haste mods and second attributes

[steep jasper]

and keep backpack slot free for creeping?

[shy willow]

if youre running the crowd control variant then yes

courier + electrique + 4 ep including chest

on fire it's with chest and bag with vile and electrique

you can run glass cannon for better tick damage but I find the ep chest more useful

[steep jasper]

yeah ive got iron lung to proc fire status

[shy willow]

ideally you wanna be proccing with a firestarter chem or fire sticky

the fire from iron lung isn't that strong

[steep jasper]

ah ok

would carnage with perfect sadist be better

but in that case i would need trauma to apply bleed

[shy willow]

nah bleed is a garbo status effect most of the time

the main ones for eclipse are foam, jammer and fire

crowd control runs the first two and fire runs just that

[steep jasper]

my intent for an EP build was mainly to proc the grudge and boost others with that 21% crit chance + dmg, less so pure dps output

[shy willow]

nah using ep for the grudge is a big waste

[steep jasper]

yeah right

[shy willow]

its probs best on a dps build as a support accessory

[steep jasper]

mhm

[magic pilot]

There is 2 setups, checked the pinned guide it has them both. With images from in game

[autumn elbow]

so with the change to lexington whats gonna be the BiS for ARs?

[vestal ibex]

Lex

[autumn elbow]

still lex even after the damage nerf?

[vestal ibex]

It's such a tiny nerf.

[autumn elbow]

sweet glad they upgraded everyones lex to level 40 then

[urban latch]

It just makes the famas and f2000 very close

[vestal ibex]

Yeah hitting your shots is more important at this point for real world DPS.

[autumn elbow]

LOL definitely not concerning (me who sits at an average 37% accuracy with ARs)

[vestal ibex]

👀

[shy willow]

37 percent is diabolical

[autumn elbow]

yea its bad, i have nerve damage in my right arm from a surgery a few years ago so my right hand jitters and shakes 24/7 😂

makes dueling in the DZ VERY hard

[shy willow]

ah that makes more sense

[autumn elbow]

anyways thanks for the advice gonna go replace my ARs with lex now

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZiL5qykoUbdcNkS1gGxtJmRSTerSXKFWbuptci6WHlk/edit

Updated to current pts notes (besides reload speed)

[autumn elbow]

thankyou, just bookmarked it 🙂 Very surprising how close everything is now.....except bighorn lol

[vapid quarry]

Mini gun :3

[magic pilot]

Yea ARs are balanced surprisingly well

[abstract mauve]

this guy knows how to spreadsheet. very nice

[tulip charm]

Well we play the game via spreadsheet

[magic pilot]

Every now and then I get accurate data

[subtle bluff]

Damnit.. I have to reupdated the not updated data sheet.... God Damnit...

[vestal ibex]

It's all just work, sadge

[magic pilot]

Hey it's updated rn!

[jaunty citrus]

So I'm doing up a DPS build, amd I want to make sure I have it right. I have 3 pieces of providence, coyote's mask, fox's prayer, amd a fenris group backpack. I'm using a lexington, and a bullet king. My CHC is 60% amd my CHD is 108.8%

[cerulean smelt]

looks like you're missing a piece. i only count 5 there

[jaunty citrus]

Oops ill fix that

[cerulean smelt]

you got contractor's gloves or 1 piece grupo?

what i run with minus the coyotes. basically what you have. 3 pc providence, fox's, grupo and fenris

obviously with 1k+ watch maxed out the watch

[jaunty citrus]

Ya, I'm at 673 on my watch, and still need to max CHD on it

[lusty nexus]

Could I see ur build

[cerulean smelt]

what more do you need to see?
3 pc providence, fox's, grupo and fenris

[lusty nexus]

So I can build it the way u have it

[cerulean smelt]

still confused?
if you're meaning the talents which i see is not listed?

[lusty nexus]

Yeah

[cerulean smelt]

those are Perfect Glass Cannon and Perfect Vigilence

think the non perfect variants works too

[lusty nexus]

I’m not going to run glass cannon

[versed summit]

obliterate or unbreakable then

[cerulean smelt]

barf build i'd like to make has a DZ exclusive in it ugh

[versed summit]

which one?

[cerulean smelt]

Liquid Engineer

think 2% is a huge difference?

[versed summit]

it will be, but meh, just use a damage brand

[agile walrus]

anyone on?

[magic pilot]

#lfg-xbox

[agile walrus]

?

[ocean ingot]

Looking to put a rifle build together. Planning on running sig 716. Probably coyotes, ceska bp, zwia named gloves, fox prayers, zwia holster. Still undecided on the chest though? Any advice?

[shy willow]

Sacrifice maybe

[topaz spear]

is diamondback any good

[solar sable]

it's a funny weapon

[hexed steppe]

I would consider negotiators dilemma, you'll have solid crit and some really beefy transfer damage on crits. Ceska glass chest, foxs knee/coyote/grupo off piece.
4pc nego including bag ( 110% transfer damage on crits), plays very much like he red

[vague ore]

Just wanted to ask and see if anyone can help because making good builds has definitely been a struggle with some of the updates screwing up older builds, so I was wondering if anyone has a good build/s that are centred around using gunner, high armour and high armour regen with decent damage output while using the ninja bike backpack, any/all weapons and maybe a little bit of extra mag size(last one is optional unless you're a genius which I bet a lot of you are)

[shy willow]

Ninja backpack is a bit of a waste tbh

You can try memento with 4 pieces hunters fury and an intimidate chest

With gunner that's 30% AOK and you get 3 percent regen from memento max stacks

[neat skiff]

I'm a returning person and I'm needing help on a build I was running a 4 piece bulwark with a momento backpack, repair drone and bullet king having a blast, but I dunno if it's any good anymore. I've wanted to try changing up my build since I can do challenging stuff pretty easily but I want to move up to legendary, anyone have an easy to put together build that is less dependent on keeping bonus armor up all the time and maybe a little more damaging? I'll take any suggestions!

[fresh fox]

striker

check the pinned spreadsheet

look for the striker setups

[neat skiff]

The raid one?

[fresh fox]

for legendary like any of them would work

besides the headshot one

[neat skiff]

Being honest I was looking at youtube vids and almost all of the builds have some revolver named the Regulus, is that a good pistol? I have the liberty and Mosquito rn

[hexed steppe]

yeah, regulus is solid. you would be looking at hunters fury with headhunter chest for a pistol headshot build

[neat skiff]

I'm just looking for something to get to floor 100 to get my 2 hunters for Ridgeway's pride and farming it on something other than challenging

[onyx sage]

you don't need regulus for that

[neat skiff]

i know, but it looked fun for a bullwark build

[onyx sage]

just look for striker, and just avoid YouTube if you can help it

well if you want to do damage you're not using bulwark ever

[neat skiff]

looking at the images of the striker build can you tell me what this exotic is?

[onyx sage]

ouroboros, from paradise lost incursion

[neat skiff]

ah

[onyx sage]

you also don't need that either

everything you need for legendary is farmable outside of those exclusive activities

[neat skiff]

well looking at the recommended exotics, I don't have any of the exotics, best i have is the Chameleion

[hexed steppe]

most highend options are equal to or better then solid exo options

[onyx sage]

^

you don't need any exotics

[hexed steppe]

might need imperial dynasty tho

[onyx sage]

they are nice to have, but you don't need any of them

[neat skiff]

Apologies then, I'm not trying to be meta, I just want to get the most out of the game. I haven't been on in a year or so

[onyx sage]

you're good, i just want to drive home the point of no exotics being necessary to do any content in the game

and also avoid youtube

[hexed steppe]

check through the pinned spreadsheet in this channel. youll find a lot of different builds, and itll give you a good idea what to go for. then just pick brains to fine tune it if you need more direction

[neat skiff]

I've been mostly a solo player reliant on the safety of armor cores and the momento backpack >.<

[hexed steppe]

striker/ heartbreaker both solid dps options

[onyx sage]

you can use hunter's fury then instead of bulwark

just roll the cores to blue

[hexed steppe]

memento can slot into a lot of builds if its something youre pretty comfortable using

[neat skiff]

my friend has been using pestilence with the set that gives special ammo and reloads your gun on a status effected enemy kill and basically was solo clearing most content while i just sat there as he hogged the golden bullet kills haha, I wanted to try to find something to either support or out dps him. it's why I was trying to find the way to farm the nemesis sniper rifle since I know with red cores it'd be a glass cannon

Going into it, I was either gonna be a dmg core or skill build

[onyx sage]

okay, one question: are you serious about doing legendary?

[neat skiff]

I am, I hate missing out on the exotic Caches from the legendary missions that even my friend and i can't do together

Plus I want to be able to do incursions or raids

[onyx sage]

then stick to the tried and true builds

the meta for legendary is damage

full stop.

[hexed steppe]

you can also farm exotics with the priority missions

[onyx sage]

follow the striker guide and make yourself one

[neat skiff]

farming the summit it is then

[onyx sage]

then matchmake or lfg in #lfg-pc

[neat skiff]

Sorry for being a bother, but thank you so much for the help!

[onyx sage]

no worries

[neat skiff]

oh neat, just got St elmo's engine from an exotic cache.

[onyx sage]

you can definitely use that one

[neat skiff]

Should I recalibrate this base roll on St Elmo?

Guide says CHC and CHD but idk if i can roll it on an exotic

[lusty nexus]

Naw

[shy willow]

Nah it's perfect

[fresh fox]

always dttoc on weapons

besides lmgs

they get crit chance

[dreamy valve]

Looks like were gunna see some random builds for this expertise boost event

[solar sable]

CHD and CHC are meant for body gear.

[neat skiff]

ah

[hoary atlas]

Finally got Belstone

With Unbreakable

[restive vortex]

Is OD good solo? I’m running all red 4pc OD w/ wicked ceska and coyotes but I’m kinda struggling with survivability

I’ve been thinking maybe using memento + ceska mask or something and roll couple of armor cores onto the build instead for solo play

[patent fossil]

Yes it's good solo, and the changes you suggest would work, although you could instead treat it as an opportunity to learn how to better mitigate incoming damage through positioning, cover use and battlefield awareness.

[restive vortex]

Yeah that’s a good point but it’s been a struggle lol

[sullen sun]

Can someone share their healer build for PvP?

[hoary atlas]

Any Thoughts ?

[shy willow]

Anyone know if incoming repairs buffs the refactor heal

[spark valley]

for pvp or pve

[hoary atlas]

Pvp

[spark valley]

not bad, dont see system corruption run a lot but doesnt seem to bad

would run it more blue cores imo

[hoary atlas]

Its mean Catharsis replace coyote ?

[spark valley]

yeah could do that

as long as ur not missing out on too much chc

[hoary atlas]

I think my chc is 36.5% and Chd is 124.8%

If use coyote

Im try get Chc and CHD Matador instead

Status effect and Skill haste

[mint axle]

as a SC user, I will say: don't rely on 1% regen while using SC, it's just too low regardless of your armor amount. instead, use a gear brand related to your current weapon to compensate from the non damage bonuses from SC.
like fenris for ARs.

[dry halo]

Matador, or any BP with Adrenaline Rush, or anything else to give you another source of Bonus armor would help you a lot.
Relying solely on the SC quickkit with the cooldown, reduces the effectiveness of the main damage perk on the set.

[magic pilot]

Absolutely matador or memento, Syscor bp is good too

Catharsis good, same as everyday carrier

It also depends on if crit or headshot

Ceska good for crit, contractors or fenris good for hsd

[fresh fox]

sys cor chest ☹️

[mint axle]

I dont like it, reduced SC cooldown should be a buff given by the devs, because intimidate and unbreakable are kinda unreplaceable to have just a 5s reduction on cooldown.

[magic pilot]

Wack