td2-build-advice

[lyric jungle]

play heroic summit with random till you do a start ish build then coutdown because you will just get kicked out of every coutdown lobby

[glad heart]

Run on challenging, or hard to start. Heroic may be a bit tough for you

[lyric jungle]

and you can farm shade of red for exotic too

[rich cosmos]

Heroic summit with no build isn’t good

[lyric jungle]

for sure but he gotta start somewhere ig better then legendary

[rich cosmos]

Its called hard and challenging, its also why countdown is better, because you can get carried in countdown

[glad heart]

Without a build heroic will tear him up...

[topaz spear]

I’m trying to get gear for a pestilence build I saw online and one of the pieces is that backpack. I guess I could look up a different build to go into that mode with. One that obtaining pieces may be more realistic.

I’ll try the different modes tonight.

[kindred marten]

Countdown is the best mode for gearing, get tons of loot from there.

[glad heart]

Callenging will net you high end gear, not much different from heroic; hard nets you purple gear... not so good

[lyric jungle]

you should probably do a striker build first it always a good baseline...

[glad heart]

He wants to solo; can't solo countdown

[lyric jungle]

he for sure need matchmaking he cant really do none without

[kindred marten]

I know, I’m saying it’d be best to learn Countdown at least at some point. Maybe he wants to get a build before going in there which I can respect. But, Countdown is best for gearing. So, get a decent build, then use Countdown to make other builds.

[glad heart]

I have run countdown more than once... that said, everything I have gotten ahold of--that was of any real value, was from summit challenging/Heroic solo. this is simply a difference of opinion, mine since day one of the game. For me it was quantity vs quality, and then 90% of the loot in this game is garbage anyway... so ... haha

[magic pilot]

Tbh with most YouTube builds are very misleading and aren't very good in practice, but we have an extended resource of builds in this discord

[odd elk]

tryna make a cc build but i still want firearms and defence, is this possible 😭

[glad heart]

IMHO, mixed purpose builds do several things, but none of them well. Single purpose builds are best.

[odd elk]

there is negotiators though, that could kinda work

[magic pilot]

Not really gonna be good I'll be honest

[odd elk]

slam riot foam nades and lauchers and mark everything

[glad heart]

ND is a DPS gearset. Skills would be a low secondary, just as with all DPS builds.

[humble meteor]

does like 50-100k for smg

i just did 1.2mil crits in countdown, there must've been some crazy synergy going

saw 3 skulls icon as buff, vindictive?

[fresh fox]

countdown team buffs/directive buffs

[odd elk]

its dps?

oh

would be kinda bad wouldnt it

[glad heart]

Not bad, necessarily here's a rundown on it:

https://lite.evernote.com/note/49389949-d9ea-1b2d-519c-e78003eb5007

This is the build "bible:"

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1509999994#gid=1509999994

[odd elk]

maube ill run heartbreaker

[fresh fox]

for single target yea

[topaz spear]

Those are the “best builds” by community?

[fresh fox]

but for a bunch of enemies its great

[fresh fox]

yea

they are the most notable builds that tells you some general information on them and the best stuff for them

[bleak sequoia]

I think of them more as "baseline" builds. Best practices. Advanced folks can do different variations if they know how to play to those specific strengths but most of these builds are straightforward and hard to screw up.

[topaz spear]

Ok. I’ll take a look when I get to my computer. On mobile the sheet doesn’t work well. Thanks all!

[frozen hull]

Is there a reason why a lot of YouTubers are putting blue cores on their armor like strikers ? I’ve done it and see little difference on heroic mode when it comes to survivability

[humble meteor]

sorry to bother but what crits should i see with a striker coyote using a lexington? is 700-800k a good number?

or is anything below 1mil trash. not much experience with these things

wish the build pages would showcase estimates when you follow the guide to the teeth

i‘m unsure if my setup is good or barely viable

[fresh fox]

hard to say without seeing talents and stuff involved

[humble meteor]

i can get a screenshot tomorrow and tag you if thats ok? but i think my chest has obliterated talent (ceska afaik)

the lexington has strained i think (weapon dmg increased in stacks for 10s or something like that… not that great with memorizing these things)

ye i need to get a screenshot tomorrow, i forgot what other gear i got since i have 3 pc striker

[bleak sequoia]

probably better to just post your CHC and CHD numbers, the final number is subject to so many factors like talent state, strikers stacks, distance, seasonal modifiers, coyotes distance, etc - it's hard to tease out any issues

3 pc striker
Wait, you know you need 4 for the stacks to happen, right?

[odd elk]

is there gear sets that work both in pvp and pve effectivly

by pvp i mean dz i refuse conflict's existence

[magic pilot]

Are you going to fight players or just landmarks?

[bright raptor]

Div 2 YouTubers target audience are... not good at the game, and in any case the raids, incursions and Legendary are the only content that are aggressive enough DPS checks that 1-2 players cannot compensate for one playing poorly with a bad build

[hexed steppe]

Needs to be 4piece or no piece when it comes to gearsets(green), hotshot being the only exception

[humble meteor]

ye i‘m wrong, i have 4. I so see the striker icon and a progress bar that fills + my crits start at 250-300k on the smg

backpack, holster, gloves, kneepads is what I have. coyote mask and ceska chest with obliterate. I think i‘m sitting at 50/120 crit

i need to check, will post pics tomorrow

[hexed steppe]

Sounds about right

[humble meteor]

but 750-800k lexington and 650kish the grudge smg is what i get minimum

i wonder what synergies i had during that countdown run where i did 1.2mil crit with my smg … should‘ve screencapped the talents that popped up

[hexed steppe]

Close range buff

Countdown has countermeasures that can give unrealistic performance

[humble meteor]

the numbers above are at the shooting range

for reference

(750 / 650)

[bleak sequoia]

maybe your red weapon damage cores aren't nearly full?

[hexed steppe]

What do you see for lex damage max stacks in the range. Elite target if possible

[bleak sequoia]

just went to the range to test mine out. ~950k crits, at close range w/ Coyotes and Obliterate and Striker's BP

[odd elk]

should I got full blue on a heartbreaker or like 4 blue 2 red

[hexed steppe]

I'm 2b 4r

Or 1b 5r 1menento

Ig 2b incl mem

[humble meteor]

like 800kish

i am not maxed out everywhere but its close

[magic pilot]

thats pretty good

[humble meteor]

farming countdown for gear / god rolls. my striker pieces are god rolled though (chd god rolls)

[bleak sequoia]

it's just your CHD

I measured mine and my numbers match up to yours accounting for CHD (mine is 136, yours is 120)

[hexed steppe]

You'll see improvements as everything is topped off and expertise added

[humble meteor]

I had a backfire drop few days ago… maybe I try that bleed protection cheese build tomorrow

oh ye i got zero expertise

[odd elk]

how does that hold up in dz do you know

[bleak sequoia]

yeah so your numbers are fine

[humble meteor]

started playing again this week, watch level 230 or so

ok good to know so it‘s just grinding out the expertise and watcj

[odd elk]

you gotta build hazard prot into your gear to make that work

[hexed steppe]

Tbh idk. I have undiscovered dz
@magic pilot

[humble meteor]

i got excess striker god rolls i can abuse

[bleak sequoia]

I mean, by the time you use up those slots is the backfire better than the lexi 🤷‍♂️

maybe if you always stay at close range

[odd elk]

drop the lexi again 💯

[humble meteor]

i prefer smgs

lexi feels wrong. would love the oru but no one to grind incursions with

[strong cave]

We gotta get you in dz pronto.

I will LITERALLY give you my account mediocre pvp build advice

[strong cave]

In PVP go 6 blues 1 red. How possible? 4 piece heartbreaker, Picaros, ceska rolled to blue. Crits everywhere. Guns, up to you. Make sure they're flatline weapons. or use eagle bearer at max stacks HB. Do use a ACS12 to stack and use technician for linked Laser Pointer. Point, they're pulsed, dump the shotgun. Get stacks, swap, easy cheese.

Move out Picaros for say Catharsis and now you're really cooking 🔥

[fresh fox]

picaros boooooooooooo

the fenris

[strong cave]

This would work too^^

Bruh.. fenris I mean

[odd elk]

so its kinda like striker

from div 1

wait so what would i want on every piece

[hexed steppe]

nah not this guy . d1 dz was pretty decent tbh, d2 never really grabbed my attention tho

[strong cave]

Kek man, can't say I didn't try tho lmao. You'd be surprised at how fun the dz rogues actually are. All they're looking for is to fight. If they bully, just go across the other side of the dz or come back a different time. Most rogues don't stay

[odd elk]

i do wish it was just one dz like div 1

[strong cave]

If anything you WANT a full server of people going frequently rogue on each other. Makes for peaceful landmark farming

[strong cave]

Slap on CHC until you reach about 40-45%, then put crit hit damage everywhere you can

[odd elk]

alrighty

[strong cave]

Heart breaker rolls for blue so if you find godroll blue pieces, it makes farming for the build easy

[odd elk]

i just be doing countdown

[orchid timber]

@strong cave im not even done with the setup and Im doing way better damage with consistent 2 mil per shot

[odd elk]

should i run grupos hoslter ceska knees

or should I try to get that one holster that buffs you for swaping guns

[shy willow]

Being on Xbox and in Asia my servers are always completely dead

Just need to learn the routes and it's components galore

[strong cave]

My advice or your original setup?

[strong cave]

That, honestly, would be pretty fkn viable. I might put that into my build now that you say that. I did notice the drastic strafing id need to do as I swap guns in facefights 1v1

I love your thinking

[shy willow]

Centurion kinda busted but I keep forgetting to swap

[strong cave]

They're too busy VPN'ing ruining my dark zone experience with their loser ass names

[orchid timber]

your advice

[strong cave]

Happy to help

[odd elk]

yeah put your aa12 in second slot though so it gets the 20% mag size for the 5 seconds the buff procs

[shy willow]

Mfw I get killed by GodGaming42069

[strong cave]

In a facefight I say catharsis would be better

[odd elk]

but you get the stacks with the aa12 plus it either dwals more damage or shoots faster i dunnl

[strong cave]

I approve of that name, at least I can read it. I get killed by dashed squiggly lines talking about iron horse in dz comms just aim hacking thru buildings

[shy willow]

At least I don't get hackers ig😭

[strong cave]

I'm damned no matter what. It's either dz is dead or hackers galore

[dreamy valve]

Which Vector is better, the .45 or the 9mm?

[odd elk]

i think its just a name icl

[dreamy valve]

Really? 🥺

[odd elk]

i dunno

[subtle bluff]

It depends. One does more dmg another is faster. Look in the Spreadsheet.

[dreamy valve]

I thought they are the same rate of fire

[strong cave]

Tac vector does the most damage, lowest mag size. Tac 45 in between 9mm and tac
9mm is kinda ass tier tbh. An SMG9 would be solid

[subtle bluff]

You can get 9mm to reload faster than the ouro which is funny.

[strong cave]

Unwavering

Solid talent

How's safety distance??

I kinda wanna try to use it on mid range builds

[silk solstice]

on this pistol build (ill use regulus when i get it) should i use an 1886 with determined or dont use determined?

[subtle bluff]

No without. Weapon Handling and reload mod. MPX is bad now just like Bashee.

[subtle bluff]

It depends where this is be used. 1886 is nice to use because you can move and shoot still but MMR’s can one shot more reliability .

[silk solstice]

well i just wanted to dabble into the one shot pistol builds i always see

someone told me 1886 was super good but im not too sure what to do

[subtle bluff]

It’s good just not that good on this build. All one shot pistol are normally Reggies one shot.

[silk solstice]

but what weapons should i run then? one person said m870 with pummel to one shot dogs and shit

[shy willow]

M870 is great on HH

Though you're probably better off using it on HHF

[silk solstice]

?

[shy willow]

Hunters fury + Headhunter

[silk solstice]

why would someone use that

what

[silk solstice]

so thats why

well what do i use on my regulus one shot build then

[shy willow]

Still works with m870

[fresh fox]

50-55

[fresh fox]

m870/spas + 1886/white death + regulus

[fresh fox]

the closer you are to 60 the better

striker lexington non coyote crit value comparison

[onyx sage]

comparsion

[fresh fox]

with mid coyotes the 51/154 one would be best of course

[onyx sage]

🫵 😆

[fresh fox]

since that hits 60 with most chd

1 letter bro

freak you

it’s all just changing the chd armor rolls to chc and changing the weapon mods from chc to chd
that allows for a +1% chc which can help inch closer to 60%, but a -2% chd
can only do that to gain 3% chc though so be warned

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x1CFsSReRXsqBpgkZVUGxeooGDofBBU91UxvnWiXxJg/edit

[fresh fox]

what about pgc/vigi at 60 chc

using the chc armor roll method.

1% better #owned

the only issue with this method is that if you are using smg second primary its crit stacks lowkey suck

[magic pilot]

1% is 1%

[versed summit]

i love math

[dreamy valve]

Currently playing around with Dark Winter, SMG9 A2, MP5n, and Ouros. I think I'll stick with the MP5 for my sustain build, but my other loadout that has Heartbreaker is still up in the air for the other 3 weapons

Both builds have 5 blue cores

[subtle bluff]

Dark Winter and ACS12 with Brazen both can use laser pointers. Is what I've ran to carry a full group a shitters in 4man Heroic with a HB build.

[dreamy valve]

When you have this on loop fighting off Rogue Agents

https://youtu.be/fd_7jIC9180?si=9txYQXkGXao41Nkt

[humble meteor]

https://youtu.be/iN4b5Ll0NYU is something like this only valid in SP PVE or can it also work in groups, countdown etc?

[hazy steeple]

They're using Modifiers to buff up their damage.
As a general rule, div2 youtubers are....not the best sources of builds, as a lot of them either are somewhat misleading (like this video), or are confused about how something works.

tl;dr div2 is a very math heavy game, but we're always happy to give advice about a build, help filter down the clickbait.

[subtle bluff]

Learning how to deal with the bleed but not going hazard pro to kill your normal dmg without backfire stacks is the key.

[humble meteor]

so you think it‘s viable in most content?

would i get kicked for running this in legendary or raids

[hoary sail]

Raids maybe

[subtle bluff]

No. You don't need that much dmg in Raids.
You'll get yourself killed in Legendary.

[placid latch]

this is basically a striker build with bloodsuck to counter the bleeding

if you don't kill them fast (meaning you need to come in close quarter) while not taking damage, it's ok

you won't get that much damage when the season end because as @hazy steeple said it use the shoulder watch modifiers

[solar sable]

there was no need to @ Rivens

[bright raptor]

what is discord without gratuitous ping abuse

[humble meteor]

are the modifiers active by default?

[placid latch]

no

[humble meteor]

i have no idea where to turn them on otherwise, i hit 1.2mil crit with the build but the bleed ends my life quick 😂

[placid latch]

you have to activate them in your inventory

[placid latch]

you have to have your blue armor stacked from Bloodsucker talent that kill give

That's why I said, you need to know how to dive and kill them really quick (knowing their spawning point help a lot)

[humble meteor]

ye i still need bloodsucker

for that i need a good chest i can recal

[placid latch]

bloodsucker talent is from the back pack

for the chest piece, it was Obliterate

[urban latch]

The bleed on backfire goes away so quickly, there's really no reason to build to protect from the bleed

[shy willow]

Now that you only need half the stacks as before it only takes half your armour bar

[placid latch]

what do you use to regen ?

[urban latch]

Nothing, you really don't need it

[placid latch]

Just out of curiosity

so how to you mitigate the opponent damage ?

[urban latch]

Finish combat and you get back to full

Use a shield and good positioning to not take much damage

[shy willow]

If you wanna you can run gunner for the free aok

[placid latch]

the main point is the good positionning

Shield was a given

[humble meteor]

I tried without bloodsucker and the reload just annihilated my armor and i died so fast

but i did get 1.2mil crits without any modifiers... so maybe spec more into armor regen to offset this a bit or try for bloodsucker

[delicate wigeon]

It's so hard to find a build I actually want to play 😦

[odd elk]

well what do you enjoy doing

[delicate wigeon]

Using skills

[shy willow]

Skill builds can be potent but as a rule of thumb the easier ones to assemble and use have the lowest ceiling

Unless eclipse because eclipse broken

[delicate wigeon]

I haven't found a single one that doesn't use the drone and turret.

[versed summit]

What skills do you want to use

[delicate wigeon]

I have no issues with turret. But drone is stupid now as it won't shoot on its own

[shy willow]

There's ones utilising the mortar, oxidizer, repair chem, foam, repair hive etc

They tend to be best in support roles

[delicate wigeon]

I don't play with other players as noone I know plays so

[versed summit]

ok but what skills do you want to use. do you know?

[delicate wigeon]

Love the stinger hive. And I'm ok using turret cos it actually works without me

[versed summit]

you could just sub it out for drone on a lot turdro builds if you wanted. Otherwise I'd recommend eclipse, and you can run it with fire chem. there's a guide in the pinned spreadsheet.

it is more of a support build, but it can work solo.

[delicate wigeon]

Tundro?

[shy willow]

Turdro= turret/drone

[bright raptor]

TURret and DROne

[delicate wigeon]

I had a decent build using strikers. But I hate it. Using nothing but 1 gun is boring and really annoying to keep stacks

[surreal depot]

i want to use bombardier drone

[versed summit]

ah ok I see you're on PC https://www.playbite.com/q/how-to-uninstall-the-division-2

[fair dragon]

Article is not recent

Wait, what's something you read in the south pole?

Antarcticle

dab

[delicate wigeon]

What do I do if I don't have the exotic from a build??

[shy willow]

Farm it

[delicate wigeon]

How?

[shy willow]

Countdown

[placid latch]

There is a skill build using stinger hive and mine

[delicate wigeon]

I've never got an exotic from drops. Only from boxes

What's countdown?

[fair dragon]

A place where 8 players collectively go to loot heaven

[magic pilot]

If you like skill builds fire is what will probably work the best and scratch that skill build itch

Or mortar builds there's a few in the pinned guide

[delicate wigeon]

Idk what half of the stuff in these guides are

[placid latch]

There is a beginner part

Start reading from there

[delicate wigeon]

FI healer build, razorback hardwire jammer, morter build - btsu/PCA variant

No idea what these means

[fair dragon]

Different builds for different playstyles, roles and use cases

[placid latch]

FI = Futur Initiative

[bright raptor]

click the link and read the text and it will make more sense

[outer dawn]

Bout to try the no bleed version of this with umbra. Is health dmg fine or should I try and roll to dmg to out of cover or something?

[delicate wigeon]

So how do I target farm a exotic helmet in countdown?

[magic pilot]

I would check out the gearsets tab specifically, so you can see what gearsets you might enjoy

[outer dawn]

I have another backfire I can roll but not sure it's worth the effort

[magic pilot]

You target farm masks, there's no helmets for gear items

[magic pilot]

Dtooc

[delicate wigeon]

How do I set a target tho?

[outer dawn]

@magic pilot sorry I'm dumb. not sure what that means

[magic pilot]

Dmg to targets out of cover

[delicate wigeon]

There is just difficulty and create it matchmake

No option to target farm

[outer dawn]

@magic pilot oh derp. makes sense. thanks

[magic pilot]

Look at the map when you hover over countdown

It says what button to push to target loot

[delicate wigeon]

Well time to try and get an exotic. Probably won't tho :/

[outer dawn]

9 tries. not bad

[delicate wigeon]

Wow. Can't even kill enemies in this

How are people running round with tons of armour bars but still killing quick????

[outer dawn]

talents and gearsets and of course the right weapon

[magic pilot]

An optimal build

[shy willow]

They have builds

[delicate wigeon]

But how tho. U would have to build full armour to have that much. And then u won't have weapon damage stats

[shy willow]

/countdown has some broken countermeasures

[shy willow]

You can inspect and check

Close range buffs damage like crazy though

[bright raptor]

cherrypicking recordings for the YouTube video

[magic pilot]

You couldn't figure out target loot how would you know

[delicate wigeon]

He has built full blue stats. Yet still has 102k damage

[fresh fox]

that’s not a lot

[delicate wigeon]

I've never done countdown target loot. Only the tower which has option to target loot inside

[shy willow]

^

[shy willow]

It's the same concept

[delicate wigeon]

I do 102k damage and that's with full weapon damage stats

[outer dawn]

thats really bad

well pretty bad. not like god awful

[magic pilot]

They are both the exact same

[shy willow]

Different weapon types probably

Anyway most of the time base damage is completely meaningless

[delicate wigeon]

No they aren't. Tower lets u choose target loot from computer in the lobby

[shy willow]

Ignore the damage stats on the weapon

[outer dawn]

you can choose target loot for countdown too

[fresh fox]

also from your map

[outer dawn]

it's the best place to target loot

[fresh fox]

which is the same way countdown lets you change targeted

[delicate wigeon]

I didn't know that, I've only used computer in tower

[magic pilot]

I'm not trying to be rude, but if you don't understand the menus in the game you are going to struggle with building

[delicate wigeon]

I didn't say I don't understand the menus.

I said I didn't know u could target from map. As I never done it before so

[shy willow]

Check the tutorial section in the menu

For the most part it does a good job explaining basics

[outer dawn]

Watch a quick countdown vid on youtube, target what you're trying to build and away you go. Don't do heroic though cause you'd be too much of an anchor right away

[delicate wigeon]

I got the exotic I need. But it has bad stats 😦 so

[outer dawn]

you can recalibrate it

[shy willow]

You can reconfigure

/optimise

[delicate wigeon]

It has 1 low stat and 1 bad one

So recal won't help

[outer dawn]

sorry I meant reconfigure like Naval said

it rerolls it completely. look what I did to my backfire earlier in the SS's I sent. took me 9 tries

[delicate wigeon]

How do I do that?

[shy willow]

Buy the blueprint from inaya then craft it from the reconfigure menu on the crafting bench

[delicate wigeon]

Don't have any credits 😦

[shy willow]

Do bounties

[delicate wigeon]

No idea what bounties are

[outer dawn]

There's probably some good new player guides on youtube to help teach you the ropes of the game

[delicate wigeon]

There is no option to buy blueprint for this exotic from inaya

[outer dawn]

What exotic is it? Stega?

[delicate wigeon]

Vile

[fresh fox]

don’t reconfigure that

just optimize

[delicate wigeon]

It has 2 bad stats.

Optimize won't do anything

[humble meteor]

@fresh fox I have a screen of my strikers set up on that online tool:

the gun attachments are wrong though, seems like they were buffed (e.g. crit dmg 10 instead of 5)

[delicate wigeon]

It has status effects and hazard protection.

[bright raptor]

yes, a few of the crit damage attachments were buffed this season or last season

[fresh fox]

yea it can only get those

[delicate wigeon]

That's dumb. They both useless

[fresh fox]

not on a build that properly uses vile

[magic pilot]

Yes it will

[delicate wigeon]

Can't even optimise it even if I wanted to. Don't have a resource

[fresh fox]

well get them

[delicate wigeon]

Need something called hyeneas tactical assesment

[outer dawn]

You're clearly new which is fine. Find a noob friendly build and just go out there and grind resources for a bit. Like I said earlier, maybe watch a new player vid to help give you ideas etc

[bright raptor]

what makes you so confident the problem is not because of a new player vid

[delicate wigeon]

I'm not new. Just don't play often

Never even seen these assesment resources before

[outer dawn]

Same functional difference it seems like.

[magic pilot]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCBIQre8iMUIxQkiCIQ1qVkyhes3ciYC-&si=EgIL8VjeTcTgpy4J
@delicate wigeon highly recommend checking this playlist out

[shy willow]

Lot of this stuff is explained even in game

[magic pilot]

So you are new, because anyone experienced knows what that is

[delicate wigeon]

Haven't played since we'll before the tinkering thing changed

[shy willow]

It worked the same before it was called tinkering

[outer dawn]

Functionally there's no difference between you being new and old and inexperienced

[shy willow]

It's just under a new name

[outer dawn]

And you didn't know about bounties which have been around forever

[delicate wigeon]

I just never done them

[magic pilot]

What we are tying to say is you need to learn the basics before you make a build

[outer dawn]

New or inexperienced it doesn't matter your knowledge is that or a new player and you should try the tools people have given you like Till linked

[delicate wigeon]

I can't learn by watching videos. I need written guides

[outer dawn]

I was gone for a year 1/2 and though game was essentially the same I still watched a quick vid to see if there was anything that mattered I missed and needed refreshed

[magic pilot]

You just said you didn't understand the written guides

[delicate wigeon]

No I didn't. I said I didn't understand some terms then used

[shy willow]

They're explained in the guide

[delicate wigeon]

I don't understand videos because people talk to quick and assume people know what they are on about

[shy willow]

Each build listed has an individual guide

[delicate wigeon]

How do I find hyena bosses for the assesment things? My whole map is black tusk so no idea where to find hyenas

[magic pilot]

That's what the written guides do, everyone assumes you know the basics

Nothing is going to cover every little detail

The PvP guide alone is almost 4 pages

[shy willow]

Do a hyena bounty or farm control points for the blueprint

[magic pilot]

And it's extremely basic

[delicate wigeon]

1 video doesn't have to cover everything. But if Ur gonna make a video about a certain build. U cover everything in the build. Including the basic stuff.

[outer dawn]

most vids I've seen (not the beginners ones) assume you have a basic knowledge of the game

[shy willow]

The video would be like an hour or two long trying to explain damage formulae and gear/brandset bonuses

[magic pilot]

Yes no one does that

[delicate wigeon]

U don't need to discuss damage formulas. Gear bonus would litrally take an extra few seconds as they should be going over what stats each item has

[magic pilot]

Most people under what bonus are on what brands

[outer dawn]

I mean they usually do

[shy willow]

But that's basics

[magic pilot]

Just by seeing the icon

[shy willow]

Like why dttooc and why crit etc

[magic pilot]

I honestly hate videos that cover each piece individually

[delicate wigeon]

If talking about damage formula is basics. Then this game is stupid.

[delicate wigeon]

This is my issue. Wtaf is dttooc.

[shy willow]

Bruh

[outer dawn]

Till told me earlier

And you were reading chat

[shy willow]

Damage to targets out of cover

[magic pilot]

basic DPS equation is:
Base Bullet damage x WD x TWD x (CHD+HSD) x DTOOC x (DTA or DTH) x Amp 1 x amp 2…..

[urban latch]

Let me know what was difficult to follow and what could be improved

[delicate wigeon]

Look at any form of written guide. 99.99% of time the first time it mentions something like this that's shortened. For the first time its mentioned. It will put it's meaning in brackets. So people know what it means. People don't do this on videos which is why I get stuck

[shy willow]

It's in the sheet

[delicate wigeon]

What sheet?

[shy willow]

Same one you were looking at builds in

[delicate wigeon]

It's just a list of builds. There is no other stuff on here

[delicate wigeon]

I don't have that

[drowsy shuttle]

hi, i did a mission with someone and when we won i did want to see his build but he left, is there a way to see someone build just from the name ?
if there is no way, can someone just tell me so

[urban latch]

/inspect [their name]

[drowsy shuttle]

thanks ! 🙂

[junior vessel]

Soo I wanna farm for a Hunters Fury with cesk armor and memento backpack build but I don't know which smg/shotgun would be good to get and I don't really understand where I can get the backpack from..

[junior surge]

Memento can drop anywhere, just farm backpack targeted loot, countdown is best. As for smgs and shotgun. Honestly a lot are viable. I run dark winter and tsunami/scorpio, but most will do well. Just run whichever ones you like the most.

[junior vessel]

What should be the rolls on the equip mainly? I thought about crit rate around 50% and other stats into crit damage and 1 or 2 blue enhancements

Or should I considee using something like weapon handling and headshot damage too?

[fresh fox]

get crit chance to 60 then go chd

[balmy sky]

Anyone know what magazine I can get for The White Death ?

[patent fossil]

'Finnish Snipers Weekly'

[balmy sky]

Where do I find that? Still learning the game sorry

[tulip charm]

Its joke

For WD you want the one that increases weapon damage

By farming cp3/4

[patent fossil]

yeah, there's no mag size-increasing mod for White Death unfortunately

[hoary sail]

u can't update mag size of it just reload speed or rate of fire

[balmy sky]

Just trying to find any magazine to go on it

Also

Is there a cap on headshot damage like there is on critical hit chance?

[onyx sage]

no

[balmy sky]

Thanks

[hexed steppe]

If you look at the list of builds, at the end of the row, where it says evernote is actually a link to a detailed breakdown, usually with a couple variations

[plush field]

i use it for close range with rock and roll

[magic pilot]

Decent

[plush field]

what shoud i change more dmg ?

[versed summit]

Česká chest would be a very minor upgrade, but an upgrade regardless and worth looking out for. Otherwise rolling blue cores back to red as you become more comfortable with the build will help as well.

[plush field]

ií got thisczeska

[versed summit]

That’s very nice, I’d use that and make sure your crit is still landing where you need it

[magic pilot]

Super good

[plush field]

alright so that build with this czecska is good?

[magic pilot]

Absolutely

I'd run incursion with you if you run that🤣

[plush field]

alright :)

[urban latch]

To be clear, that's really not an incursion setup. You'd want the striker chest and all red cores at least

[silk solstice]

i need a new build to make tbh im not sure what to do

[versed summit]

you already check the sheet? it's hard to recommend since we don't know what you already have

[silk solstice]

the sheet just has millions of options

so idrk

[versed summit]

well you have a mortar build?

[silk solstice]

no but idrk why id use that

[versed summit]

because it's a really strong skill that can effectively solo content

[silk solstice]

i was thinking negotiators dilemna or smth

[versed summit]

do it

[silk solstice]

ive seen diff variations tho im not sure yet

i feel like i need something for countdown bc i do way too much of it

[junior surge]

I run a lot of countdowns too. Striker is pretty much the meta for countdown. To change this up once in a while I switch to a HE HH build with an 1886 and a Regulus, or an eclipse foam build if I feel like the team already has enough damage (or we get the close range countermeasure).

There are also people who run OD with great success, it's one of the strongest builds rn and it supports a team quite well

[urban latch]

FI build if you don't already. Way too few people have one

[silk solstice]

ive got everything but the btsu

[silk solstice]

send the build?

[vestal ibex]

Pinned messages>spreadsheet>hub(builds)>OD

[frozen hull]

I’ve not done countdown before .. but have heard your skills get hacked so people won’t play with you if you are using certain skills .. to be clear is it just the damage skills ? Like can I use my fixer drone in there ?

[patent fossil]

Yes, it's just damage skills. The hack isn't like the one that Keener uses which switches skill types on you.

[frozen hull]

Thanks very much

[kindred mango]

Anything deployable will get hacked and kill your team

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZiL5qykoUbdcNkS1gGxtJmRSTerSXKFWbuptci6WHlk/edit?usp=sharing

lexington is still meta as of current patch notes

rifle table is also updated. did not add reload speed yet

[fresh fox]

wait birdies quick fix doesnt have a overcharge cooldown listed

infinite overcharge

if it works with self revive hive you can be like an infinite oc scanner pulse

[onyx sage]

yooooo red hard wired meta is back

[tulip charm]

Spill the beans sir

[onyx sage]

no.

[humble meteor]

is the donate all junk button in the expertise panel broke? literally fills up and does nothing

[magic pilot]

stupid question but do you have gear marked as junk?

[delicate wigeon]

Can someone explain the eclipse protocol build? Why is it all fire based. And why is status effects the first minor attribute. I thought it was supposed to be a skill build

[bright raptor]

it's a skill build for people with actual skills

It sets people on fire, which is a status effect. Status effect rolls increase fire duration and the damage they take from the fire (really a bonus)

[magic pilot]

its a skill build that utilizes the status from fire, fire chem is one of the most effective ways to kill enemies on heroic and under due to how status scales

[delicate wigeon]

So it's not a skill build. It's a fire damage build

Ok wtf bullshit is this. I need 19 tactical assessments for 1 recalibration. Yet I get 2 per bounty. That's stupid AF

[solar sable]

Skill comes after Skill Tiers

and skills themselves??

[delicate wigeon]

What u mean?

[solar sable]

You use the skills from the Skill Build. So what's the difference?

[solar sable]

I'm talking about this

[delicate wigeon]

U have to use fire damage skills. So it not a general skill build. It's a fire damage build

[hazy steeple]

Since the only other way to get fire damage is via a Talent/Flamethrower, a Skill that deals fire is still a Skill.

tl;dr The fire skills still scale with skill damage.

[solar sable]

I mean you still use skills lol

[delicate wigeon]

Looking at the spreadsheet there is not a single skill build for general use. They are all super specific about what u can use for it

[hazy steeple]

It might help if you describe what "general use" means to you.

If you just mean running around and killing stuff, the turret+drone setup will work fine.

[delicate wigeon]

Being able to use 1 build and changing the skill based on what I'm doing

[hazy steeple]

Note: any skill kill build will be slower than using a gun, by the very nature that you are a better aimer than the AI is.

[solar sable]

friendly fire isn't allowed!

[hazy steeple]

Yep, you 100% can't team-kill in PvE, you can't aim at explosives near team-mates and time it juuuuuust right.

[magic pilot]

doesnt exist

thats just not how effective builds work in this game

[hazy steeple]

Eh, anything below Heroic (and even Heroic after you spend enough time in it), you can slap on any half-decent build and still work alright.

[magic pilot]

people used grey gear to beat legendary, that doesnt make it effective

[hazy steeple]

They didn't ask about super meta speed-runs, they asked about a build where they can swap out the skills and still have the main focus be skill kills.
Which you absolutely can do, assuming you use the right skills.

Frankly, asking about builds to this extent does imply that they're still at the "learning" level, so they are probably on Challenging at most.

[magic pilot]

yes, and im going to offer advice to get past challenging. which is to not make a build that you can hotswap skills on because it will probably not do well on heroic. you see the connection now

offering advice on what works on challenging is not going to help anyone

[silk solstice]

with a one shot negotiators build what weapons should i use?

[hazy steeple]

You absolutely can swap out skills and still be effective on Heroic (despite the fact that skill kill builds outside of things like Mortar are going to be slower than guns anyway)

[magic pilot]

i guess we will agree to disagree

[subtle bluff]

Playstyle and players skill to match the build is more important here.

[fresh fox]

not use that

useless outside of certain raid bosses

(ravenous and dodge city with a really strong pistol)

[silk solstice]

oh i thought it was supposed to be really good

[strong cave]

Their watch level isn't max so that's why the usage of mods will carry them to 50

[silk solstice]

now idrk what to do

[versed summit]

Just make a normal nego build

[versed summit]

Nego one shot is good but specifically made for certain scenarios

[silk solstice]

the only normal one i saw used spotter

[fresh fox]

hitting getting as close as you can to 60 is still the best option

[fresh fox]

only in raids

nego on it’s own though is still good

just not the one shot version

[strong cave]

Pretty much nego + crits with the nego backpack is easy damage

[silk solstice]

what about the chest n stuff

[fresh fox]

glass cannon

or obliterate

[strong cave]

Not necessary. Glass cannon or obliterate

[fresh fox]

mainly glass

[silk solstice]

ceska?

[strong cave]

I say not needed. Nego gives hella crit

What weapon will you mainly use? Strega dump trucks damage with nego

[silk solstice]

i dont have strega sadly

do i need it?

[versed summit]

Nah

Česká is still really good on Nego, as it lets you cap CHC very easily and evenly

[silk solstice]

well if strega would help ill farm it

[strong cave]

It's not needed, but it fits the overall theme of multi-targeting

You could use an Elmo's or even a Lexington with killer on it

[silk solstice]

so should i use a sacrifice maybe? and a grupo piece?

then 4 nego?

[fresh fox]

either ceska glass + coyote/contractor

or 2pc prov with pgc

[silk solstice]

got it

thanks man

[narrow depot]

Looking for armor regen build. What do yall suggest

[subtle bluff]

For PvP right. Should be able to serach up past posts for it.

[mint hollow]

Obtained a bober today is it good in a build?

[onyx sage]

no

[rich cosmos]

Entrench deserves a buff

[silk solstice]

does other peoples shots affect negotiators?

[solar sable]

just the one that uses nego

afaik

[silk solstice]

thats a kick to the nuts dude

[bleak briar]

Hey im new and i love the crusader shield so far, how do i get that shield wall perk at the bottom

[solar sable]

you equip gear that has skill tiers

oh crusader

[bleak briar]

Oh awesome im already doing that

Im playing with a sort of tank with the attack drone to supplement damage and take some fire

[onyx sage]

you won't get that normally. you have to get overcharge which isn't really activated solo

[bleak briar]

Why??

[onyx sage]

overcharge is only a temporary effect that enables these things. it's not just for the shield, for all skills

because they're really strong, they're balanced to have limited uptime and only accessible via certain gear items

your playstyle right now is trying to straddle multiple lines at once (being a tank, doing damage with the drone), but know that you will want to hyperfocus on one niche in endgame

[bleak briar]

I know i want the minigun from the gunner

And ik i cant use it with the shield

But i also really want to tank

I want to tank more

[onyx sage]

in this game tanking isn't really favored. you can really only "tank" in lower difficulties where enemies don't deal a lot of damage

you can try out different playstyles. I'm just letting you know that the game itself is placing these limits

[bleak briar]

Yeah alright

I'll probably look more into weapons then

[onyx sage]

are you level 40?

[bleak briar]

No 11

[onyx sage]

just enjoy the story and play through it

[bleak briar]

Alright

[dreamy valve]

Tempted to make a Bighorn build next season

[orchid timber]

do it bro its fun asf even rn

[dreamy valve]

Just need to find some space in my loadouts first

[orchid timber]

if you do striker bighorn without a lot of expertise or high shd level you can hit 2 mil

per shot its actually really good

[humble meteor]

yes it‘s my goto routine to flag all items i don‘t want as junk

[strong cave]

I just deco it right there if I don't see sub attributes that might be what I'm looking for. I find it quicker than just picking it up and wasting stash space

[humble meteor]

yeah but does that contribute towards proficiency?

its why i want to deco junk in expertise to level my stuff (i only got 6 things proficient)

or is it a classic case of massive ux blunder making this system not easy to understand for me and i‘m thinking it does something else?

[patent fossil]

Items donated to proficiency only affect the proficiency for those specific items, so eg you can donate 100 ceska items to max prof in ceska, after that it won't donate any further ceska items

So when you 'donate all junk' it only scraps the item classes you actually can donate, and leaves the rest in your inventory.

[humble meteor]

there is no visual feedback for this though

the button just fills up and stays that way, not even an audio cue that something happened. good to know that it works tho

[low narwhal]

when donating to expertise, look at the expertise circle. If some items are successfully donated, number (within it) will go up and the circle will fill up a bit more. If it stays same, then nothing has been donated

But i agree, they could have shown it in better ways

[drowsy shuttle]

so if i want to do it on my model700, it will only be on the model im using ?

[hoary atlas]

Well Yes but Kinda

[magic pilot]

What the

[hoary atlas]

Wat

[low narwhal]

do what?

[low narwhal]

why the 5 pieces of sys corruption?

[vestal ibex]

In life all things are better the more you have duh

[low narwhal]

not in this case xD

[vestal ibex]

I'd wager this is a syscor starter build that they just threw all the items in to take a look at what they could swap or whatever, an in progress build of sorts. Hopefully....

[kindred mango]

Proficiency leveling maybe

[vestal ibex]

Self nerf so they can feel something?

[urban latch]

Except syscor is like the hardest gear to get, you really have to go out of your way for it unless it's all from the OG season 1 lol

[kindred mango]

It was very easy to get in S1 caches they had available at end of last season. I have enough pieces to make a full red or blue build on Xbox 😎

Hopefully they bring those back again

[hoary atlas]

Im try get Belstone Armor with Unbreakable

[drowsy shuttle]

upgrade the expertise

[low narwhal]

well yes. But if you reroll that same gun, the expertise stays.

[low narwhal]

ahh okay sounds nice! i havent tried sys corruption yet. NEed to find itt

[cerulean smelt]

one of the easiest ways is to invest in the Legacy caches

[drowsy shuttle]

what is reroll ?

[onyx sage]

reconfigure at crafting station

[cerulean smelt]

exotic weapons/gears can be crafted up using exotic components

the weapons can have their 3rd attribute changed to just about anything you want if to have for whatever build you're going for

[drowsy shuttle]

oh yes so its not taking another model, i understand now, ill just upgrade the expertise when i find a good model

[low narwhal]

any legacy caches?

[cerulean smelt]

any legacy caches

as legacy pulls from seasons 1 to maybe current season or 1 season behind

[low narwhal]

you should ideally upgrade the gun once you really like it tbf. No point expertise all the guns and not using/deconstructing it since it will be a waste of resources.

[low narwhal]

ahh okayy. I will keep this in mind. Thanks!

[drowsy shuttle]

so i need to find one with maxed attribute, will be long

[cerulean smelt]

just know you might not get them as much, but the possiblity is there if you don't want to PvP for them

[low narwhal]

ahh yhh

[low narwhal]

Countdown till you find the right one xD or wait for random drops

[cerulean smelt]

nods usually i'd just craft whatever i want and if it's a Armor/Weapon core and 2 random attributes i'd go for the cores near max or maxxed and one of the other 2 attributes maxed and then recalibrate what isn't maxed to max

[drowsy shuttle]

what is countdown ?

[cerulean smelt]

game mode

[drowsy shuttle]

is it in the map ?

[cerulean smelt]

think if you wanted can run up to the helicopter pilot with the benches underneath it and set it to matchmake for countdown

[drowsy shuttle]

ok thanks ill try it

[drowsy shuttle]

difficulty is the same as fortress ?

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if it's still the same from when i ran it. heroic = being fully optimized with your build or you may get booted from it

[drowsy shuttle]

so its like a legendary ?

[vestal ibex]

It's just an 8 man locked scaling.

[tulip charm]

Just run challenging no gear diff compared to heroic

[vestal ibex]

Heroic isn't worth it tho, you get a bit of extra requisition but you might fail them over and over. Just do challenging diff, MM for it and follow the group and focus objectives.

[drowsy shuttle]

im going for challenging yes, lets see ! 🙂

[vestal ibex]

Too many people forget the objective and then time gets cut close cause you have to activate computers/destroy pipes or whatever. Be an objective bro and you'll spend less time each run.

[cerulean smelt]

they changed it once too. no matter the difficulty you had chosen the NPCs would be nearly heroic npcs

now it's
Normal = Solo
Hard = 1-4 people can run it i believe?
challenging = 8 people
heroic = 8 Fully optimized players

[vestal ibex]

Eh you can do any of it with 4 people, just no point.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd have to go look for that patch

[vestal ibex]

Meh, it's in the past. They got good advice so hopefully they'll farm quickly and make some builds and progress nicely.

[cerulean smelt]

Normal – can be completed solo
Hard – designed for groups of 8 casual players
Challenging – current difficulty available at release, designed for a group of 8 matchmade players. Can be completed by a team of 2–4 hardcore players
Heroic – best for 4–8 hardcore players
pulled from thedivision fandom wiki

[vestal ibex]

Just an opinionated statement tho. Would not give that as advice ever.

[eager remnant]

anyone got a decent build for exuro

feeling like a nice crowd control build and it would a nice change of pace

if anyone has one @ me

[cerulean smelt]

i think i tried it once and was unimpressed with it

[vestal ibex]

Eclipse protocol is just so much better.

[drowsy shuttle]

damn i was so weak

[cerulean smelt]

depending how they tweak the new gear set, that might be better than EP 🤔

[eager remnant]

ive been rocking true partiot

and honeslty i was hoping for a rework lol

[cerulean smelt]

most gears in game are stuck as they are, most rework would be if they happened to be too powerful they get nerfed

[tender pulsar]

Capacitor/Drone/turret build idea ?

Just gear

[cerulean smelt]

think most goes the 2-3 empress, that one exotic holster and then 2 hana-u usually? could be wrong though as i haven't seen much turret/drone build videos in forever

[tender pulsar]

Okay that gives me an idea thanks, do you happen to know the holster's name ?

[cerulean smelt]

the talent on it points to the left or right that gives that skill more damage, i just forget the name of it

[shy willow]

waveform

[cerulean smelt]

thanks XD

[tender pulsar]

Thank guys 👍

[cerulean smelt]

depending how the PTS goes, the new gearset might be the new goto

or the very least 3 empress 2 new brand set

[tender pulsar]

Ohw nice 😎

[cerulean smelt]

@tender pulsar just to give you an idea
Shiny Monkey Gear – Brand Set
1 Piece equipped gives +15% Skill Duration
2 Pieces equipped give +5% Skill Efficiency
3 Pieces equipped give +52% Repair Skills

[versed summit]

the efficiency isn't that good tbh Hana-u is still better IMO. just more damage

[tender pulsar]

Is this repair skills something useful for solo players ?

[versed summit]

nah they're just taking about 2 pc

[cerulean smelt]

personally no, but that's just me

[tender pulsar]

Yeah i thought the same, thanks

[cerulean smelt]

Skill Efficiency = Skill haste, skill damage and skill duration comes to mind right away. think skill health all in one

[versed summit]

yes, for 5%. it's such a small value and at the cost of losing skill damage

[cerulean smelt]

shrugsi'm all for the 5% efficiency over damage personally

as it is on PTS, who knows on release they may increase it

[versed summit]

it's a choice. I wouldn't expect an increase in the value given it's about in line with what we've seen elsewhere.

[cerulean smelt]

i feel gearset might get changed though

[versed summit]

how?

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, but with what i done in the aoe targeting range made me immortal from using just the Fire Sticky

[versed summit]

yeah I wouldn't say that's reliable enough to make it strong in other content

[cerulean smelt]

oh i know, but just that idea if you can set multiple enemies on fire and get that constant healing = you being pretty immortal as i couldn't even drop my armor down to my health in the targeting range

this was mask, chest, holster and gloves, with the new named knees that gives us 16% status effects and just because it was 1 piece status effect Anarchist's cook book? Golan backpack with Perfect Wicked

[magic pilot]

@cerulean smelt why facepalm?

[versed summit]

they like skill efficiency

[versed summit]

seems like an overall loss to the efficiency of EP though... maybe it'll be a decent alternative thoguh

[magic pilot]

ahh

[cerulean smelt]

i did try the bleed hive and wasn't as impressed as the fire

[versed summit]

yeah the stickies are a lot of damage lol

[tawdry raven]

For pvp what's the ideal mix of cores cuz before it was 5 blue 1 red but now its all blue

[shy willow]

new gearset will at least mean turret drones aren't useless

[tawdry raven]

On the pinned build thing

[tulip charm]

Oh right does the gearset proc empathic resolve

And is it affected by safeguard

[versed summit]

afaik it's not affected by skill repair

[tulip charm]

So only er

Ig the gearset is ok

[versed summit]

yeah...

[shy willow]

I could see it being pretty cool

lot of possibilities

[versed summit]

from what I can tell, if you were running regen skill damage turdro before... this is an upgrade. I guess besides that it's better if you're matchmaking?

[magic pilot]

Imo I'd either run
5/1
6/0
3/3
0/6

Depends on the build as well

@versed summit new brandset seems decent for turret drone

2 monkey, 3 empress and wyvern

[cerulean smelt]

one yter was saying that as well

can even try the waveform instead of wyvern

it's a shame about firm handshake gloves though

[versed summit]

still rather have hana-u for extra skill damage, the duration is nice but typically not needed, and what you're getting from 5% skill efficiency doesn't seem worth it. like I mentioned earlier though, it's an option

[cerulean smelt]

though i'd be curious with Perfect Wicked and that new Perfect weapon talent for damage against Status Effected NPCs woudl be like

[versed summit]

played a bit with status on Refactor. for solo it already seems like it's struggling on damage and it's really missing the duration refresh from EP, not sure it'd fair any better when group scaling gets added

[cerulean smelt]

nods probably great at starting fights and then if you can keep them all from scattering so you hit them all with fire XD

repair skills attribute. is that only when you use skill for repairing (chem launcher, hive, drone, Trap) or does it affect things like what the gear set does?

[onyx sage]

only repairs from skills

[cerulean smelt]

yeah i kind of figured but had to ask just in case
think some youtubers claim you have that on say True Patriot does increase the repairs players get from shooting an npc with the correct flag color

[onyx sage]

that was changed because of that interaction actually

[cerulean smelt]

ah ok, wasn't sure if what they said was true anyways

just like i was thinking the 2 shields that lets you hold an actual weapon and the new set could be a decent tank, but from what i heard it doesn't do skill damage anymore probably because of In Sync talent but yeah

[magic pilot]

Same with catharsis

[onyx sage]

no, the shield except the deflector has never done any skill damage

it only procs in sync because of the activation

and even that part was removed

[versed summit]

I realized I'd forgot to swap Skill Damage for Status Effects when I tested this. With the extra SE it performs a lot better, naturally. Still presents the issue that you could CC better with EP, and not need any repair because your CC is more effective

[onyx sage]

yeah so the focus is probably on skill damage that has more sustain

i'm thinking of a meme build with intimidate for self...

[junior surge]

I just feel like if you want repair and cc, an eclipse build with foam and restorer hive will still do that better, and you can even run btsu for oc

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i took the 3 refractor that had Skill tier core then tried the backpack and gloves

[versed summit]

true, but it kinda falls apart when your team splits up

[junior surge]

Yea, it's best for narrower missions like dua

[versed summit]

also I'm abusing pummel to negate skill haste which is entirely absent on Refactor

[junior surge]

But the new gearset just seems like you could use either FI or eclipse instead depending on what you want

[versed summit]

Theoretically Refactor could be an alternative that instead of buff damage does damage itself, and heals for support

in practice it's hard to make it fit

[junior surge]

I mean, you can also run skill damage FI though, with maybe a turret and a hive, and you get decent skill damage, healing and buffs

[versed summit]

that'd do less damage, and wouldn't passively heal your team.

but i dunno... doesn't really matter ig

[junior surge]

Would it deal less damage though? Don't forget you get the twd from the buff.

[versed summit]

but you have to spec into skill repair

you're free to take glass and tech support/combined arms with refactor

i guess you wouldn't technically need to spec into skill repair tho

[junior surge]

Yea, even without any repair skills a full red build is still going to get healed in like 3 hive charges, and you could still go glass/combined arms with FI, and you'd get 15% twd

You'd lose the btsu though I guess

Hmm, idk, passive skill repair just seems a bit situational

Do we know if it applies to shields?

[versed summit]

wouldn't make sense IMO, but I haven't tested

[junior surge]

Since proper skill healing can heal shields aswell, which can be a big factor sometimes

[versed summit]

lemme see

looks like no

I think I'm ready for them to start adding OP gearsets now...

[cerulean smelt]

@junior surge doesn't look like there's a range set on the gear set for healing

the chest talent

[rich cosmos]

Now that people have used the gloves

How do the new exotic gloves actually work

Does it straight up make the player untargetable while in the smoke, or is it just an aggro remove

[cerulean smelt]

personally i feel they're pointless expect the PvP

[timber willow]

hello, any ideas for a fully maxed out solo hunters fury build for heroic farming with 3 directives atm?

[shy basalt]

Don't think it has changed lol

Scorpio is relatively easy to play and pretty safe

whereas a HH setup will oneshot everything but be a bit harder to play

[rain ether]

Can you suggest a build for a fresh level 40 with LMG (hate reloading)? I'm currently playing with a simple skill build and I'm stumped by different guides

Hundreds of videos with actual and not so actual builds with gear I don't have

[solar sable]

Don't follow Division YT for builds, they're not good and filled with a lot of misinformation

You can farm gear in Countdown, matchmake (MM) in Challenging difficulty and select your Targeted Loot before going in.
Check the 📌 Spreadsheet in this channel for more info about builds and gear itself.

[low narwhal]

LMG and no reloading means using centurion scabbard

I use it. P much instant reload if you get used to weapon swapping with it and extra mag

[junior surge]

Or bullet king strikers

[low narwhal]

After that you can just slap on 4 piece striker and ceska obliterate with CHC and CHD to make a nice strong dps build

Tune CHC to 60% and rest to CHD, and you can start cleaning floors😂

Gunner specialisation for the armor on kill bonus too helps

[rain ether]

Holy that's a lot of useful information

Thanks for the suggestions

[lapis parcel]

Before I choose a worse option for my build can you switch both 1 attribute and talent when tinkering or just one change total and then optimize.

[junior surge]

You can only switch switch one thing per piece

[solar sable]

Just one attribute or one talent or one core attribute

Not multiple

[lapis parcel]

Thanks for saving me the trouble!

Is a rifle build with over 50% crit rate+90%+ crit damage built around a UIC15 with the killer talent decent enough to take on legendary/heroic late game activities or should I stick to hard? I ask because I’ve sort of been loitering around in hard for a while and it lacks a bit of challenge. I was able to do Roosevelt with a team of four today. I just don’t know if it’s generally good for end game activities or if it was a fluke.

[kindred marten]

As KillGore said, Bullet King Striker is solid. Bullet King is an Exotic LMG that you never have to reload, EVER. It may not be one of the best weapons, but the no reload, the recently buffed mods (15% crit chance) and the fact that LMGs have DTA and DTOC, it’s good enough and a lot of fun.

[kindred marten]

It’d be better to post a pic of your build or list the pieces out. You could have a (non) build with a bunch of random pieces but still have 50/90. Best way would be to try out Heroic with it to test how it works.

[lapis parcel]

I will do so when I can get pics. Thanks.

[prime hare]

I still feel like I do to little damage with this build even tho it's supposed to be a dps build. Is there something I should change. Or is a strikers simply superior?

[junior surge]

You can switch to obliterate or glass cannon on the chest. Contractors might also be worth considering depending on what kind of targets you tend to be shooting.

[prime hare]

Would contractors be better against the fenris?

For the assault rifle damage?

[junior surge]

It depends. If you shoot targets with armor a lot, then it can be

[prime hare]

I always play on heroic

[junior surge]

Also, your crit damage seems a bit low, are you maybe overcapping on crit chance?

[prime hare]

I thought maybe 2:1 was a good ratio

[junior surge]

Btw, when you play with coyotes, you'll want 50% chc on the midrange weapons. I'd recommend running all chd mods on your AR. That way you can make it so you have 50% chc on your AR for the midrange engagements, and the scorpio will have 60% for close range.

[prime hare]

Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'm overcapping on crits.

[junior surge]

Do you have dttooc on your guns?

[prime hare]

Sadly my kinbraker rolled with a perfect health damage so I can't recalibrate it. I have chd and assault rifle damage

[low narwhal]

Yhh get DTTOOC on gun and remove fox prayer. Better to use ceska to squeeze in more CHD

[junior surge]

ARs will always have health damage (except Capacitor). You can only change the third attribute

[low narwhal]

Also try using gunner specialisation and for chest talent, go for obliterate

That way more DPS and armor on kill

Aswell as fire rate buff from gunner spec

[prime hare]

Oh

[prime hare]

O thought the dttooc would be more valuable but thanks for the tip

[low narwhal]

You can put DTTOOC on the gun. It is valuable. But you can add more CHD I suppose

[prime hare]

I considered that but then I can't run my beautiful flatline. But I'll consider it thanks!

[low narwhal]

Also maybe use faster fire rate guns so you can mag dump and get into cover

[low narwhal]

Other good talents include killer, strained, optimist

Flatline is not total weapon dmg I think so it doesn’t add much DPS

[junior surge]

Flatline is an amp

It's pretty good

[low narwhal]

It’s a separate multiplier? It doesn’t say total weapon dmg

It’s just weapon dmg which would be additive to the build weapon dmg bonus

[junior surge]

It's its own amp

[low narwhal]

If you have Lexington, that would be a good AR to use. Maybe st Elmo too. I personally prefer chameleon but you need to know not to weapon swap and it has shorter range than most AR. So if I need range, I swap to Lexington

[prime hare]

I sadly did not get the Lexington. I do have st elmos

Thanks for all the tips btw

[shy basalt]

have you tried using a better gun with normal flatline

instead of kingbreaker?

[low narwhal]

You can also try glass cannon but you need to be sure to not take too much dmg as chest talent

[prime hare]

No. I though kingbreaker would be the best

[low narwhal]

If you taking too much dmg to use vigilance maybe use like unstoppable force or composure instead

[shy basalt]

kingbreaker numerically is strong due to perfect flatline but it just doesnt handle as well

[prime hare]

I can control it quite decently. But i still feel like I'm not doing enough for a dps build. Legendary stronghold didn't go so well...

[shy basalt]

mm okay

I find carbine or m4 much easier to control headshots on

but if you think kingbreaker is fine then stick to it

[prime hare]

Thanks for the advice

[shy basalt]

also, why not use strikers or hb?

[prime hare]

...I don't know. I thought maybe a high end build would to better...

But I'm hearing a lot that strikers just...can't be beat

I'm enclined to just go strikers

[low narwhal]

It’s trueee. At max stacks, you getting about 190% weapon dmg

Even if you don’t use chest, you get 90% weapon dmg

On top of 6 red cores

[prime hare]

Yeah...You're probably right

[low narwhal]

I would only recommend your build in like raids where you can’t build much stacks

Or maybe PVP with some armor cores

[shy basalt]

or if you're playing with friends

i use HE build when i'm mobbing with friends

[low narwhal]

Where you can have instant dmg rather building up stacks

[shy basalt]

since lower difficulty

so enemies have less hp and my friends are also killing shit

[prime hare]

I thought enemies become more difficult the more friends

[shy basalt]

harder to stack

[prime hare]

I see. Thanks for the insight

[low narwhal]

They do. Enemies scale up with more party members

[prime hare]

Good to have confirmation atleast

[shy basalt]

but yeah legendary is hard

so probably easier to just stick with the strongest build

[prime hare]

Which is strikers correct?

[shy basalt]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a

[prime hare]

I really appreciate it!

[magic pilot]

thoughts? invincible decoy build

[subtle bluff]

Yes.... Motherly Love

+25 Skill Health

[magic pilot]

That's for V2 high end version

Will have to test to see if extra health is needed on legendary

[subtle bluff]

In other thought you could just run a BTSU Glove and OC yourself every so often when you want it to be unkillable.

[magic pilot]

yea i realized that too

can hotswap

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MwTgtADJ1bP3RAuALAJgZxWapT7QrVKNI8gyJAdkovJrqeXoKVYY+Ined46A

@subtle bluff thoughts? badger is monkey

[fresh fox]

where’s 2pc lengmo!!!

[magic pilot]

oh shit

rip 2 pc monkey

after testing the high end version is not needed

[lapis parcel]

Is this a half decent build for endgame activities? I was thinking about switching out my bag with Creeping Death on it to one with Concussion even though my primary damage would take a 28k hit because it would synergize well with entrenched.

[fresh fox]

use vigilance/concussion instead

entrenched sucks

use like obliterate/glass instead

use foxes prayer named overlord knees

replace mask for coyotes mask exotic

then replace the 2pc providence for 1pc ceska and 1pc grupo

[lapis parcel]

I do have a chest with near identical stats with glass

[fresh fox]

what brand

[lapis parcel]

Same brand

[fresh fox]

i would use that

get used to glass so you can surivive very well with and without it

[lapis parcel]

Thanks, going to grind out Coyote’s

And the other pieces

[cerulean smelt]

i've got similar build but Sacrifice and Gift + 1 providence piece, fox's prayer and 1 grupo with Fenris since i'm maining AR

[cursive gull]

I'm coming back after a year and was mainly running backpack striker with obliterate and coyote, is it still good to run?

[fresh fox]

yea its fine

theres another option but it uses glass + vigilance

[prime hare]

That sounds good as well!

[dry crag]

Can anyone point me to a good build for Healing, Tank/DPS, and Skill build.

I’ve been coasting with a Meta striker build and need some recommendations for legendary content too solo and/or group

[fresh fox]

healing -> https://lite.evernote.com/note/022975b4-183e-e730-c18b-06ff00cb26ea

skill builds vvvv
(turret and drone) https://lite.evernote.com/note/a7081cdc-b5c5-7677-e166-b27ea3b2f6f8
(mortar) -> https://lite.evernote.com/note/ac1fdc3c-b114-0ba3-273e-7b080b8881dc
(oxidizer) -> https://lite.evernote.com/note/1c09313f-9578-c07b-520a-a1488f85608b
(fire/foam eclipse) -> https://lite.evernote.com/note/8f1fc875-172a-9331-f92e-fe314f1772f5

for tank/dps just use blue striker with memento + 1pc ceska

[subtle bluff]

I swear compton we need to make a post somewhere where we can just copy and paste it like that all the time.

[fresh fox]

or heartbreaker

[fresh fox]

if every build was in the evernotes maybe

[subtle bluff]

or a PFE build

[fresh fox]

but like they dont have all of them

like the heartbreaker one only has full red

[subtle bluff]

wurd

[fresh fox]

something like a tech tank would be nice

[subtle bluff]

I should make that one

[fresh fox]

@dry crag for pure tank builds, they dont have a place in this game due to the lack of aggro management

they only have a use for a few raid encounters

[dry crag]

appreciate you

[fresh fox]

if you ever find yourself needing those lmk

[magic pilot]

Someone say agro management

[fresh fox]

sir i mean real aggro management..

[magic pilot]

Tier 6 decoy

[fresh fox]

not a tank though...

[cursive gull]

for the striker primary would it be better to have lexi, shield splinter or the famas?

[fresh fox]

lexington

[dreamy valve]

Time to look for my UIC rifle somewhere in my stash

[cerulean smelt]

you deconstructed it for parts (> <)

[topaz spear]

where can I get a coyotes mask and also a st elmos

[magic pilot]

Countdown

[topaz spear]

what guns to run with striker

are lmg's any good

[cerulean smelt]

LMGs tend to supress your target easier than AR/SMG

[topaz spear]

what is the brand to target

[cerulean smelt]

whatever you're working towards

so coyotes you'd set it to mask, St elmos you set it to AR

[topaz spear]

ok

thx

[cerulean smelt]

but countdown is the way to go if you're like "i need a build" you set the target to whatever you're trying to build

[strong cave]

LMG isn't bad honestly. I've seen people running iron lung and pestilence with striker lately (myself included). Just be careful not to suppress enemies. Keep an AR as a secondary or so. An L86 would do great as an LMG secondary by the way if you main an AR as primary

Does about the same fire rate, damage, and mag size as the RPK. Reloads quicker

[distant mountain]

For healer what class is better technician or survivalist?

[tulip charm]

survivalist > tech in most cases

[bright raptor]

tech spec still requires you to choose between extra damage to robots/skill proxies and extra heals

plus even with the much fewer drops the crossbow bolts could save your teammates some grief by blowing a tank or Warhound armor plate

[tulip charm]

the only time you'll run tech for healer is faraday or incursion

[subtle bluff]

Eh... There are other places. Faraday is pretttty strong. Like my healing for speed leggo was Demoo.
Survivalist is better if you're an active player and doing things.
Tech is a bit more chill since he lil layed back.

[shy willow]

Iron lung so peak for being able to negate suppression

[tribal dagger]

Ok so I have been looking into how do I get the Refactor gear set but I don't see it on the game at all. Can someone please tell me what I'm missing here?

[versed summit]

it's not out yet

It's only available in the Public Test Server and that's only for PC.

[tribal dagger]

Oh ok thank you

[shy willow]

At the very least it's something new

[topaz spear]

Thanks! What’s a meta AR people like nowadays

[strong cave]

The Lexington or the famas is the ar to go for that isn't an exotic

Be aware that the Lexington was given during an event in December for the veteran rewards. It is still unobtainable but there has been talks that it will be obtainable in the future potentially. For right now, if you don't have the lexington, the famas is a good stand in. You could also use the p416

[bright raptor]

they're all fairly closely matched save for those that got hit with the nerf bat this season (F2000)

[strong cave]

The famas will just have slightly better burst damage that's all

[bright raptor]

also the FAMAS cannot use the Technician pulse laser if you want to use Technician with Striker for the extra shield tier and the Spotter + Flatline combination

the Police M4 and P416 variants can

[strong cave]

^^ pretty good to know, I actually recommend the p416 over the famos for this very reason. It slots in better everywhere with specific builds as opposed to the famas. But if you're going for straight damage, go with the famas with killer

Another really solid weapon that I have been using that hits a little bit harder than the P4 but has slightly lower rate of fire is the g36c

Right now I am currently maining an ongoing directive build that is completely red (with g36c). It's just straight weapon damage and straight crits with sadist as a talent. I crit for anywhere in between 1.2 to 1.7 million and I almost never use ammo. Doesn't rely on stacks like Striker does either

Overall, the best three ARs right now to use that are in the general loot pool is the famas, the p416, and I dare say the g36 or the carbine

[topaz spear]

What is technician? Sorry I’ve been out of the game for years and the lingo isn’t in my brain.

[bright raptor]

one of the post launch specializations, the one with the mini missile launcher

[strong cave]

Technician is a specialist that you can pick at the base of operations once you unlock the specialists classes in the game

[topaz spear]

Ok. I have it. Just didn’t know the name of all of them

[timber dagger]

I am new to the game ( 3 days) just reached lvl 40 what build should I get to complete the dark hours raid?

[bright raptor]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9

[strong cave]

Check the pins and read the build spreadsheets. There should be a striker build somewhere where it's four piece Striker coyote and Ceska

[bright raptor]

all red all crit chance and crit damage Striker will work, but having both in your inventory should significantly reduce the chance of getting kicked

[strong cave]

3 days into the game and you're already tackling dark hours? I'm jealous of your progress. I hope you get the eagle bearer on your first run!

[bright raptor]

also while not part of an ingame "build", make sure you have a functioning microphone

[outer dawn]

Anyone got a good 1 hitter sniper build? Wanna give it a try

[bright raptor]

Chainkiller with headshot damage + weapon handling, Airaldi backpack with headshot damage, weapon handling and Vigilance

Remainder Hotshot pieces with headshot damage

Any bolt action sniper rifle

Enjoy

until something with big Stellite coating stacks shows up

[outer dawn]

thanks

[placid latch]

Strega will be nerfed next season ?

[outer dawn]

Why would it be?

[placid latch]

I feel it's too strong

[outer dawn]

It's def good but I don't think it's gonna be nerfed. PTS Nerfed Lexington a little, but thats it

[magic pilot]

its getting a buff actually

[fresh fox]

GG

[mint shuttle]

what are some builds for Legendary content? i feel like every time I try to put something together to attempt Legendary, it never works

i tried Strikers, just die so fast. I tried a status effect build, also just die too fast

[subtle bluff]

It’s a combo of team comp, builds and gameplay for legendary.

[mint shuttle]

my friend and i tried to 2 man it, but is it something you just need a full team of 4 for, even though it scales?

[subtle bluff]

If you’re soloing it’s a lot to do skill. The only normally we solo it is with striker.

[mint shuttle]

she was running a dps and i was running a status effect foam/fire but we just got run over

[subtle bluff]

It’s not suppose to be easily doable. It’s like super end-game challenge.

Killing’s the right things in order is important. It’s not simple I say if you can get thru heroics without getting rez on full red then you’re ready for leggo.

[mint shuttle]

we can run through heroic like it's nothing

but Legendary runs through us on the same builds so i am just struggling to understand why the same builds don't work as well for us

[versed summit]

there's a lot bigger gap between heroic and legendary then challenging and heroic. just takes some getting used to and learning how to tackle rooms effectively, it's not something where you can bully the adds and play however you want like heroic is. generally

[mint shuttle]

yeah that is what we are running into

but it feels like the builds we use in Heroic should work but just aren't. maybe i just need to LFG 2 other people and attempt it that way

[drowsy shuttle]

hello, is there any good shotgun build ?

[hexed steppe]

Which legendary?
I would just make sure there is 2 strong dps, 1 solid dps / 1 healer for team buff. I think the hardest part of legendary isnt the npcs being super tanky, but knowing the spawn patterns so you can minimize exposure .
I don't run a lot of legendary, so this jmho.

I was running mortar in dua the other day and it worked out well. Ymmv on what works of not

[hexed steppe]

Hunters fury.
Either headhunter variant for 1 shots, or traditional scorpio + preference secondary with memento/wicked/opportunistic bags.
No ninja tho 🥷

[drowsy shuttle]

i only know the sniper stuff a little, shotgun would be for my brother, he wanna tank and shotgun

[rich cosmos]

Heartbreaker and umbra both work pretty well with shotguns

Preferably not slow firing ones

[drowsy shuttle]

is there somewhere i can find full build to know what to aim for ?

[solar sable]

check the 📌 Spreadsheet

[drowsy shuttle]

thanks !

[solar sable]

weird, it says that the HF evernote has been moved and can't be opened

did I miss something?

[drowsy shuttle]

is it hard to get the scorpio shotgun ?

[versed summit]

Not super

Just target loot shotguns in challenging countdown

[drowsy shuttle]

didnt even know you could target loot in countdown

[humble meteor]

whats the order to spec into handling watch? ammo capacity I have done, can't decide between reloading speed, stability or handling next

[hexed steppe]

Reload first, then whatever after

[patent fossil]

Accuracy next probably, landing more hits means better damage and you can't counter poor accuracy with skill, unlike stability.

[fresh fox]

i would do reload, ammo, accuracy/stability

if you are using headshot builds during your level grind do stability first

[humble meteor]

thanks going with reload, works better with my build to have fast reloads

[fresh fox]

if you are using crit/automatic weapons do accuracy first

[humble meteor]

i don't have much issues hitting my target

but i am a reload-a-holic, I reload 247 and that bites my ass a lot

[drowsy shuttle]

how do you target loot in countdown ? i cant find it

[patent fossil]

From the map menu, either in countdown itself or by highlighting pentco power plant or summit on the dc map