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#td2-build-advice
hexed steppe
but for real, its kinda true. its better to not waste time on somthing if it doesnt fit
sinful acorn
I have strat alignment backpack, not sure what your backpack is
hexed steppe
grab a force multiplier when you get it, cause you only need 1 china
otherwise looks good
sinful acorn
I probably found 50 force multipliers
Oh force multiplier sounds ass to manage ngl
For 10% skill damage
Strat alignment is less hassle when I already struggle to aim uphill or on platforms
hexed steppe
yeah its common. dont worry about the 3 sec uptime. just proc it after mortar is sent. then if drop a hive on a heavy it calculated for every charge, not the deploy
hexed steppe
For 10% skill damage
10 Total skill damage, basically an amp since single source , not additive to regular skill damage
sinful acorn
Oh it's multiplicative?
hexed steppe
Wait what do you mean by the last part?
certain skills need the skill damage stacked before deploy like fire sticky. something like hive checks the condition when each charge is sent out
sinful acorn
Oh okay
hexed steppe
not on hive deploy*
hexed steppe
Oh it's multiplicative?
yeah, youll probably see a pretty big difference
sinful acorn
Interesting then
hexed steppe
if you dont like the oc thing you can also sub in contractors. i would still farm sacrifice in either setup.
sinful acorn
My mortars were already oneshotting elites but did nothing against armor plates
hexed steppe
that hive should do some work if needed
sinful acorn
Sounds good
I'm gonna try this build in summit with a friend playing a tank build
Incoming: swapping back to headhunter after 1 floor
hexed steppe
summit...
event on or off?
sinful acorn
Friend is used to me memeing with builds like these
hexed steppe
Probably not when he has to put down all your kills down a second time tho 
lament sage
Question- I’ve never focused on builds much, just enjoying the game. I currently have a perfect glass cannon dps, striker, and Future initiative healer/ medic build. But what are some basic builds everyone should at least have, ie a skill or raid or hybrid builds
*I have separate builds not all in one
solar sable
Hotshot
Mortar
Nego
OD
HF/HHF
Oxi
Maybe a Status Effects build
Raids... DPS is the role you're pretty much using and what people are going to be looking after
lament sage
Gotcha I’ll look into those. I typically delete most gear at the moment since I don’t have other builds but want to take advantage of all the caches I’m getting with this x5 event
- put in expertise when possible
solar sable
just don't put expertise in body gear lol
lament sage
As in don’t spend the resources to improve a single piece or put the junk into expertise?
solar sable
Both, if you get the chance to donate junk to it, do as you wish
And I meant not putting Exp levels on body gear since it's not worth it
lament sage
Gotcha
hoary atlas
Is that Hunters fury ?
versed summit
Is that Hunters fury ?
yes
shy willow
anything i should change?
Replace clutch with vigilance
hoary atlas
Obliterate and Vigilance combo ?
onyx sage
you wouldn't play HF any differently so that's a given
gloomy relic
I need PvE advice.
i like smg/ar/lmg builds and ive seen striker is a common set people go for. but my aim accuracy is only 55-60%. whenever i look at my striker stacks, they arent even at 25% most of the time. i feel that set is just suboptimal for me.
what is another good gearset that would fit well with these guns?
for overall pve, nothing in particular
onyx sage
I need PvE advice.
i like smg/ar/lmg builds and ive seen striker is a common set...
are you using striker chest by any chance?
gloomy relic
i think so. its a brand new 40 character
onyx sage
don't use it, use a high end chest like a ceska vyroba chest with obliterate
shy willow
More upfront damage and a brand bonus/extra attribute
chrome basin
i still cant build stacks xD
try equiping acs12/rocknroll to build stacks
shy willow
If you struggle building stacks use a shotgun to ramp them up
gloomy relic
thats viable in lategame content? wont you get shredded by enemies if you get close?
onyx sage
i still cant build stacks xD
the chest makes you go up to 200 stacks, so that meter you see means you have built only around 50-100 stacks which is what most people linger on
if you take off the chest you'll see the bar go up much faster, because you only have max 100
gloomy relic
ok ill try it out when i find another striker slot
onyx sage
thats viable in lategame content? wont you get shredded by enemies if you get cl...
in heroic and below, yes
shy willow
thats viable in lategame content? wont you get shredded by enemies if you get cl...
Not necessarily
onyx sage
legendary unless you have a way of controlling the enemy I wouldn't recommend it
gloomy relic
and is there no other automatic gun gearset than striker? xD
chrome basin
you can run negotiators
chrome basin
i think ongoing directive is also ok
shy willow
It's pretty competitive
onyx sage
yeah for general content that's not too stringent, OD works very well
hexed steppe
*note, i play hyper agressive with hunter's fury
wicked is good suggestion, ide memento that tho... synergizes really well with hf and your shield
+tech class also
😅
barren herald
anyone good bluescreen build?
fresh fox
no
barren herald
dam
hexed steppe
anyone good bluescreen build?
there is a bluescreen dilemma build in this channels pinned spreadsheet 📌
silk solstice
aight guys i’m coming back after YEARS of not playing. just finished wony, what should i do first?
bright raptor
pinned spreadsheet -> Hub -> Builds
in general red weapon damage builds are popular right now as the most popular content heavily emphasizes shooting over skills or the ability to tank. Striker is one of the easiest ones to set up, but the big buff Ongoing Directive has had with this season also makes it pretty strong
silk solstice
that’s interesting because i remember back in the day everyone was all about skill builds. but yeah, how would i farm this gear? do people still just sit in summit for a year til they get stuff?
hexed steppe
you can hit summit if you like, still has selectable target loot . there is also countdown, with is selectable target loot and very high gear amounts
8 man, timed mission, use dps and matchmake for it on challenging
versed flame
well, you can still play with skills, but for many it's boring, and for a long time)
silk solstice
i honestly have never heard of countdown
hexed steppe
its newer if you been out for a while
silk solstice
sounds cool tho
silk solstice
its newer if you been out for a while
yeah bro it’s been years
hexed steppe
its really easy to carry a few on challenging. just follow the pack and youll be gold
no deployable skills tho, they get hacked. shield, revive, pulse variants, sticky and chems all safe
silk solstice
sounds good i appreciate the advice man
magic hollow
Hey guys
I need some build advice, I am looking for a skill build with cluster rollies and pulse, stacking tons of skill damage so that the cluster rollies can one shot most enemies
Does such a build exist?
versed flame
drone damage, or fire damage?the negativist
magic hollow
I believe the capacitor and memento are good for that right? which armour set should I use? and is there a specific talent on the armour I should be on the lookout for or should I use the armour set's chestplate?
versed flame
I believe the capacitor and memento are good for that right? which armour set sh...
explain-do you need a build to fight drones and turrets, or pour fire?if the second is support, he is weak in solo
magic hollow
explain-do you need a build to fight drones and turrets, or pour fire?if the sec...
Right now I'm running a lady death short range shield and crit build with boosters from the technician specialization hive with memento and I can't remember the gear set I was using
I'm bored of that so I'm looking for a well-optimized build that can take all content solo and in a group
I'm also tired of shooting all the time, so I wanna use explody rollies
versed flame
magic hollow
I need the build to be able to tackle dark zones as well as pve content, but my main focus is on PvE
magic hollow
the mortar build- solo ,group
Can you give me more details? Does it do well in pvp as well?
Can you tell me the talents and gear set you are using?
Also, if I replace the shotgun with Capacitor and then replace the AR with a DMR, is that any good?
hexed steppe
I believe the capacitor and memento are good for that right? which armour set sh...
no, look into hardwire for a seeker spam build, or mortar for a general explusives build. either way i would use as secondary skill stinger hive and btsu gloves
capacitor good for, memento not so much unless you understand how it works
magic hollow
capacitor good for, memento not so much unless you understand how it works
Hmmmmmm okay then I'll go with the gloves
hexed steppe
you can use a standard 3 empress, 2 hanna, 1 wyvern for most skills. hardwire does best with cluster seekers because it can launch them with very little cooldown
magic hollow
you can use a standard 3 empress, 2 hanna, 1 wyvern for most skills. hardwire d...
Alright thanks
magic hollow
no, look into hardwire for a seeker spam build, or mortar for a general explusiv...
Pulse is not recommended?
Instead of hive
hexed steppe
no, its not a strong skill
magic hollow
Okay then
Capacitor and hive it is I guess
Which parts of hardwired should I use?
And what is the last rare gear part that I should look for?
hexed steppe
jammer pulse is ok tho. there is a hardwire jammer build for drone clearing
magic hollow
jammer pulse is ok tho. there is a hardwire jammer build for drone clearing
No I want clusters
magic hollow
And what is the last rare gear part that I should look for?
Assuming I'm using 4 hardwired and 1 btsu gloves*
hexed steppe
hardwire is easy to farm, or craft if you have the blueprints
magic hollow
hardwire is easy to farm, or craft if you have the blueprints
That's fine, I believe I do
I used to run that build a long time ago
hexed steppe
give me a sec to look up bag and chest benefits before i reccoment
magic hollow
Thank you
Capacitor is best to farm at Summit right?
And also is the DMR okay for second weapon?
I'm not sure which one yet so if you have a recommendation there I'd love that
versed flame
Capacitor is best to farm at Summit right?
yes
magic hollow
Thanks
Any DMR that would go well with skill damage builds?
Or I can build one with a specific talent, I think I've farmed a ton in my tinkering station
versed flame
Any DMR that would go well with skill damage builds?
harmony
hexed steppe
Thank you
probably go with hw bag, highend glass chest
fill in the rest to preference, btsu+hive is very strong ther, hive is a good proc for the feedback loop since you can pickup and srop immediatly
magic hollow
probably go with hw bag, highend glass chest
What is that?
hexed steppe
if no btsu, probably contractors gloves since dta improves explosives
magic hollow
I'll farm the BTSU
hexed steppe
What is that?
hardwire bag.
glass cannon talent on a chest. most likely china light or wyvern chest. can also use sacrifice named chest with perfect glass cannon
magic hollow
The only thing remaining to fill is the specialization and the chest
magic hollow
hardwire bag.
glass cannon talent on a chest. most likely china light or wyvern ...
OKay I'll find the Sacrifice
hexed steppe
use demo spec
hexed steppe
layout will look like this for the most part
well, itll be decent for missions/open world. i wouldnt legendary/raid/incursion/countdown with it
magic hollow
Hmmm
hexed steppe
this screenshot is lifted from the jammer spam build for dark hours raid tho, so if you get that role while raiding it may be usefull there
magic hollow
What about pvp
hexed steppe
not pvp. very different build strategies
magic hollow
this screenshot is lifted from the jammer spam build for dark hours raid tho, so...
Oh so if I just switch to jammer + drone I can do that role?
magic hollow
not pvp. very different build strategies
Ah okay I guess I won't be doing any pvp anytime soon then lmao
magic hollow
well, itll be decent for missions/open world. i wouldnt legendary/raid/incursion...
Oh and can I do alert level 4 control points with it?
hexed steppe
Oh so if I just switch to jammer + drone I can do that role?
check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel there are a ton of builds. the jammer spam is for killing drones, tbh, you wouldnt use a drone, you would still use a hive since its the easiest skill to trigger hardwire feedback loop (reduction of cooldown time).
versed flame
Any DMR that would go well with skill damage builds?
magic hollow
Nice, thanks
magic hollow
check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel there are a ton of builds. the jam...
Thank you, I will
It's this one right?
hexed steppe
yes, hub (builds) tab. builds have a link at the end of each line with detailed breakdowns
hexed steppe
yeah, striker is top dog for the most part. it can pretty much steamroll anything. all the builds are proven, tho. also they are solid guides, but should be fine tuned towards your personal preference as you get used to the diferent setups
sinful acorn
Cooked another build by myself.
No expertise on weapon yet but I'm not too sure about breaking point 4p with this weapon
Might drop down to 3p and go with something like uhh
No idea actually, Foxes with headshot maybe?
This is so much faster already than White Death headhunter
So not sure I need to optimise this much more
Just finished Mannington on heroic and I did like 70-80% of the kills there with 2 people playing Elmo Striker
Prob not putting any expertise on this weapon since I feel like Determined is going to be nerfed next balance patch
Really wanted to do crit+headshot but getting decent headshot and critchance+damage seems hard on a weapon with only a magazine mod slot
junior surge
If you're using headhunter, there really isn't a need for crit tbh
You might struggle a bit into targets with no heads, but eventually you'll learn to juggle your stacks
sinful acorn
Yeah I know a lot of it already
Played so much white death headhunter
I just want moar damage
Hit so hard, enemies with armor plates die in one hit even though that's not even possible
magic hollow
Anyone got any tips for a build with Lady Death? I am currently running Hunter's set with memento which I have a feeling is pretty bad and I should switch to a higher crit build right?
sinful acorn
Memento doesn't make too much sense on a hunter to me
magic hollow
I'm thinking of dropping all of my armour altogether
And switching to something for some REAL damage
sinful acorn
I run ninjabike and some good brand sets with 3p hunter
junior surge
Hit so hard, enemies with armor plates die in one hit even though that's not eve...
It is possible, just shoot dogs in the legs with headhunter stacks. Chungas are more difficult, but you if they turn their back, you can shoot through the top part of their backpack and onehit them too (only works with bt chungas though).
magic hollow
I run ninjabike and some good brand sets with 3p hunter
With lady death?
WHat's ninjabike?
sinful acorn
Dark Winter
Backpack, you know Ring of Royal Grandeur from Diablo 3?
It's that but a backpack
hazy steeple
It's a newb-trap, is what it is.
hazy steeple
Gearsets already lack crit stats, due to only having acces to one Attribute slot.
so losing your backpack Talent to being able to have a different set bonus is not the greatest
sinful acorn
Yeah but you fix that with something like Ceska and some other brandset
versed flame
Cooked another build by myself.
I play like this, but-you lose a set from a set, and you get more damage from rifles!as for me, it's a choice in favor of the second one!but that's my opinion)
sinful acorn
Foxes kneepads with headshot?
hazy steeple
An ideal HF setup is already using Ceska anyway, and if you really want an Exotic with it; Memento is fantastic.
hazy steeple
LD is a powerfully average gun.
magic hollow
Or coyote and striker set
sinful acorn
But you wouldn't do blue cores with memento + hunter, right? All red?
hazy steeple
it's the NBB of guns.
sinful acorn
Armor and health on kill makes the blue core memento kinda pointless to me
magic hollow
But you wouldn't do blue cores with memento + hunter, right? All red?
I haven't optimized properly at all ;-;
hazy steeple
You don't need any blue cores whilst using Memento, since your shield gets 2 tiers from the yellow+blue core it comes with.
If you realllllly want, you can throw on one, to have 3 tiers.
sinful acorn
No worries tn2023, I'm asking Rivens anyways
I meant blue cores for Kill Confirmed mostly
That bonus armor kinda moot with hunter imo
Baby surv boost, right?
Since you mostly healthgate with hunter, at least I do
Unless I understand healthgate wrongly
It's some threshold above 50-60% hp when you can healthgate, right?
hazy steeple
HF requires you to be within extremely close range to function, to do that you need to use cover smartly, and a shield.
And since you can't really out-right tank in div2, you need to be smart.
versed flame
Foxes kneepads with headshot?
magic hollow
Why are yours blue
Mine is green
hazy steeple
I'm lost here, what are the Fox Knees for?
sinful acorn
Colorblind mode
magic hollow
Ohhhhhh
sinful acorn
1886 Determined headhunter
I asked about my random slapped together build just a bit ago
He's basically doing the same thing I was thinking about
Almost
hazy steeple
Ooh you're doing a HSD Hunters Fury setup.
sinful acorn
No there's like 3 convoes going on rn :P
I was asking about 1886 Determined, tn2023 was asking about Lady Death build and then we talked about Memento HF
magic hollow
I'm confused too lol
sinful acorn
damien was responding to my earlier question
silk solstice
this any good?
magic hollow
So guys
If I have a Lady Death + Memento + Hunter's (minus the chest) setup, should I switch everything I can to red? Since memento gives the armour anyway and I don't need blue?
versed flame
memento?not a question!)))
sinful acorn
It's only 1 run of countdown for it
versed flame
armor is to your taste here)
sinful acorn
That looks alright
magic hollow
Use that instead of Lady Death
With the same build?
sinful acorn
Yeah
magic hollow
And then switch everything on the hunter to red + my high end chest to red?
sinful acorn
Basically what damien just posted
But you could do only 1 blue core instead of 2 that he has if you feel like it
magic hollow
And what talent should I be looking for on my high end chest?
versed flame
this any good?
Is this for pvp?
hazy steeple
It might help if people type in full sentences, these half-conversations are really confusing to read.
sinful acorn
Fair enough, I'm playing at the same time xd
silk solstice
Is this for pvp?
no idea i just got it im asking if its good
hazy steeple
Right now I'm half-convinced that everyone is trying to make an IH tank build.
magic hollow
I'm gonna switch to all red cores
And Dark Winter
What is countdown? I'm not fully aware (been away from the game for like a year)
sinful acorn
Sounds good. That's what I'm doing with mine but it's not really a party build I'm running
versed flame
no idea i just got it im asking if its good
for PVP, it is possible, for PVE, it is garbage.
sinful acorn
What is countdown? I'm not fully aware (been away from the game for like a year)
Countdown is top right in Washington map, it's a 20-25min mission where you do different shit and then get some currency
magic hollow
Sounds good. That's what I'm doing with mine but it's not really a party build I...
I live in a country with poor internet and I don't have any friends so I think I'd rather have a powerful solo build that can take content without help
magic hollow
Countdown is top right in Washington map, it's a 20-25min mission where you do d...
Ah okay gotcha
And where is the countdown store?
hazy steeple
That's not a great description of Countdown.
magic hollow
Also what specialization do you recommend for this build?
sinful acorn
It's not the best but I'm capping a control point amid this lag my shard is getting
hazy steeple
shard?
hazy steeple
I'm going to assume that's a zoomer thing.
magic hollow
Also what specialization do you recommend for this build?
And I have one more thing to ask
sinful acorn
It's just a infrastructure virtualization term that some games started using
magic hollow
Is there a specific DMR you can recommend (named maybe, or if not a specific DMR talent)?
I wanna stop running shotguns I wanna run SMG and DMR
sinful acorn
Also what specialization do you recommend for this build?
Gunner probably?
sinful acorn
Not sure what that abbreviation is tbh
hazy steeple
The Spec Tree for a build entirely depends on what buffs you want for the build, the gun that it comes with doesn't matter at all.
So for example, if you want armour on kill, you'd go for Gunner, if you are using a shield, Firewall is excellent due to its buff shield.
hazy steeple
In div2 the term is just "rifle". Yes that's confusing.
sinful acorn
Oh you rarely use those but you could do some M1A with Preservation for swap?
hazy steeple
So we have Marksman Rifle (for snipers), Assault Rifles (AR), and "rifle" for stuff like the m1a-classic.
magic hollow
The Spec Tree for a build entirely depends on what buffs you want for the build,...
I'm currently on technician with shield and booster hive
I don't know what abilities to switch to if I switch to gunner
But I am surely tired of running shields
sinful acorn
To get some armor back and some output from range at least. I run preservation too but I don't think I've swapped to it more than once or twice
Whatever rifle you prefer is most likely fine
magic hollow
What is a really high-damage named rifle with a damage talent?
versed flame
Basically any RIFLE but not Sniper Rifle
1886,m1A
magic hollow
I don't want armour back lol
sinful acorn
^
Nemesis is pretty high damage, but it's so slooooow xd
P.S. sorry for spam but idk what to do, lag caused enemies to stop spawning 😢
magic hollow
P.S. sorry for spam but idk what to do, lag caused enemies to stop spawning 😢
Maybe run away from the area and come back?
I think I'll go with Artist's TOol
versed flame
Jump to another place, then come back
sinful acorn
I'll try that, sorry for offtopic
sinful acorn
I think I'll go with Artist's TOol
That rifle seems really good to me but I see nobody using it
magic hollow
That rifle seems really good to me but I see nobody using it
Maybe people can't headshot lmao
sinful acorn
Yeah I got a friend who's playing white death headhunter and I constantly gotta give him time to headshot to get his build online for every mission
magic hollow
Can memento have more than one core?
versed flame
They play with it, but you have to build a specific build there.
sinful acorn
Memento always has same core attributes, armor, damage and skill tier
sinful acorn
Yes
6 red = 30% weapon damage for 10s
6 blue = 60% bonus armor for 10s
300s bonuses are always the same
sinful acorn
yep
magic hollow
Alright I'm gonna try to switch everything to red, switch my chest to the correct talent, and see what else I can improve from there
sinful acorn
You also need to play smart with that build. Gotta get close and not get overwhelmed
magic hollow
Yeah, no more run and gun, especially since I'm gonna drop the shield too
sinful acorn
I do shield + reviver on mine
Rarely use shield since I don't have to and it doesn't tank any damage for me, not really
magic hollow
I'm gonna drop the shield and technician booster
ANd switch to gunner for most gun related bonuses
Then figure out what abilities I'll run with that
sinful acorn
Reviver is necessary, esp. for solo
magic hollow
Hmmm, fair
sinful acorn
Gotta play too perfectly without it
sinful acorn
Didn't really follow anyone for my HF build, just kinda slapped something together. I might try memento with 1-2 blues cores today tho
(friend runs Coyote that I play with most of the time)
magic hollow
I'mma run 4 hunter pieces and switch my chest to red
sinful acorn
yep
Also I have Fenri's chest for the reload speed. 2p gives 30% reload speed which I really like, otherwise I would run Ceska or Grupo for damage
magic hollow
I might run Pulse instead of shield
sinful acorn
Jammer?
magic hollow
Also I have Fenri's chest for the reload speed. 2p gives 30% reload speed which ...
I might try that, nice
sinful acorn
You can only do that with Ninjabike BP
magic hollow
You can only do that with Ninjabike BP
Oh nvm then I:ll just run memento
sinful acorn
Yeah I'll prob swap out Fenris for either Ceska or Grupo chest, with Memento
There's a good youtuber called Dod Regnbue who does a lot of the math around builds like these that I like watching. Also calls out clickbait builds, which I also enjoy
silk solstice
how can i farm shd rn?
sinful acorn
Kenly college with an Oxidizer build or control points
I run all events inbetween CP4 on heroic except public execution 'cos reanims bug those
silk solstice
whats that
sinful acorn
5x XP event tracking
You only get 5x until that 700mil is full
I'm almost 2/3 done
silk solstice
so 1000 levels?
sinful acorn
Yep
silk solstice
im 26 so
sinful acorn
You have like 20 hours remaining on the event
Ah okay, then you prob can't do heroic yet?
sinful acorn
You get 5 shd levels per control point on heroic with 4 directives
But kenly college farm is much better from what I heard
silk solstice
i couldnt do kenly farm tbh
sinful acorn
Someone needs to do Oxidizer for that
silk solstice
not me lol
sinful acorn
I have it but I haven't done Kenly myself
Not sure if all 4 need to have that build for that farm
sinful acorn
If you can heroic without any, it's good enough
silk solstice
i could do the cool skills one?
sinful acorn
special ammo pretty free most of the time too
silk solstice
very true
silk solstice
2 dir heroic cps are difficult but very doable and super worth it
sinful acorn
Nice!
silk solstice
thank you for the advice
sinful acorn
Anytime :)
If you find an easy one to do in terms of the layout, you can just reset and do that. But you'll prob want loot too so just run different ones until you get bored
Basically what I do
silk solstice
i feel like striker probably isnt the play for this global event but eh
sinful acorn
Determined builds are pretty cookiecutter for reanims but also 5x XP since that headshot skill XP bonus is magnified too
silk solstice
determined?
sinful acorn
Weapon talent
Any shot is headshot (after a headshot kill), can be chained together, goes together with Headhunter which is chest talent
Dod Regnbue has a video called Top 5 builds in TU 22 (which is current patch) that shows it
silk solstice
this?
sinful acorn
I prefer White Death variant without The Gift BP
He doesn't consider himself a good sniper, that's what the Mantis is for
I mean Gift is better than my BP but I don't have one with good rolls and this set up was much easier to get
hoary sail
I mean Gift is better than my BP but I don't have one with good rolls and this s...
airaldi bk does the job good to if u have this one
versed flame
sinful acorn
Basic essentials are White Death with Determined, chest with Headhunter and then hotshot 4p and whatever backpack (pref. Airaldi/Providence) with Vigilance
junior surge
Airaldi has higher top end damage than providence
sinful acorn
You'll be breezing through whatever game throws at you almost
Oh?
13% hs worse than 10% mmr?
junior surge
Headhunter scales off weapon damage, so when headhunter is stacked, the wd will contribute more
junior surge
It also depends how much you have of each, adding 10% to sonething that you already have 200% of, isn't going to be as impactful as adding 10% to sonething you only have 100% of. For most full red headhunter builds though, wd brands will net higher top end damage (stacked HH) than hsd brands.
silk solstice
i just got st elmos we are so back
spending all my global stars on exotics because i feel like as a new account that’s what i need most
versed flame
yes
silk solstice
what builds would i need for the incursion?
hoary sail
what builds would i need for the incursion?
striker
silk solstice
no specific exotics or anything?
bright raptor
Coyote's Mask but otherwise not really
shy willow
Datagloves if you're running healer
Bloody knuckles if you want on bosses but it's optional
silk solstice
well ive got a lot of farming to do
sinful acorn
Prio objectives are the best source generally, just look for open world exotics or activity exotics
Open world shorts are good for just rerolling it without losing discard cooldown
And well, weekly projects are nice too but those can't be spammed the same way
versed flame
if an exotic item falls out, you can ask here, they'll tell you, but even the useless one I keep in my chest is 1 pc.
silk solstice
ive gotten a decent amount but the issue is a lot of them are new since i last played
like whatever tf sacrum imperium is
versed flame
garbage
silk solstice
mosquito?
versed flame
m....maybe in a raid, and the aggro in this game works poorly.
versed flame
that sucks
silk solstice
huh
versed flame
+Nemesis-sniper,eagle,bighorn- assault,freedom-pistol
It's all playable in many ways.
ashen silo
is this a viable all red build and if not what could i change?
I'm new to builds and wanna learn from trying instead of copying from the internet.
versed summit
is this a viable all red build and if not what could i change?
I'm new to build...
I'd swap you chest for a Česká Výroba s.r.o obliterate chest for a simple adjustment
ashen silo
I'd swap you chest for a Česká Výroba s.r.o obliterate chest for a simple adjus...
this one says it has a 10 increase on crit chance but this build already has 59,5 according to the tool. wouldnt that be wasted? or is there any other reason youd swap it?
versed summit
this one says it has a 10 increase on crit chance but this build already has 59,...
trade chc for chd on other pieces.
tulip charm
Also roll elmo with damage to target out of cover
patent fossil
for crit damage?
Chd=crit damage, yes
tulip charm
also you should be going for chc/chd not chd/wep handling
hazy steeple
Well, WH is a great stat, once you've got no more CHC to gain from rolls.
It's just more applicable once you've capped out the 10% chc bonus from your SHD watch.
ashen silo
also you should be going for chc/chd not chd/wep handling
its maxed out by switching the chest piece as IC3SO said
tulip charm
its maxed out by switching the chest piece as IC3SO said
the crit chance?
ashen silo
yes
tulip charm
you shouldnt be at max with that build
ashen silo
it sais 60
hazy steeple
Unless the mods on it were changed, doesn't the Elmo give bonus CHC?
patent fossil
Ideally your minor stats should include chd on every piece, with chc only on the high ends, weapon mods, and maybe gear mods if necessary
hazy steeple
Which is why it's recommended to newbies who are pre-1k.
tulip charm
actually what level is he
ashen silo
this is what i looks like now
ashen silo
actually what level is he
something close to 100 on the SHD
long way till 1000
hazy steeple
You're probably going to want to focus on CP (control point) farming for a while, you'll need to get the bp's/mods you're missing, plus it's a great way to up your SHD level.
tulip charm
this is what i looks like now
ig its fine. you're losing 12% chc by running wep handling on a gun that doesnt need it imo.
ashen silo
ig its fine. you're losing 12% chc by running wep handling on a gun that doesnt...
doesnt it
tulip charm
it already comes with 15% which is plenty to be fair
ashen silo
so where should i switch it with chc or chd
tulip charm
replace the weapon handling ones with crit chance
and aim for 54% crit
until you get 10% crit from watch which you can reduce a bit over time but stay above 50%
covert meadow
Thoughts on this opposed to obliterate setup from sheets?
onyx sage
Thoughts on this opposed to obliterate setup from sheets?
the fenris only helps your elmo and loses out when you have expertise
covert meadow
@onyx sage makes sense, i was wondering why sometimes it just didn't seem to hit as hard...
Well once again Sheets has proven far superior for a reason
tulip charm
¯_(ツ)_/¯
covert meadow
I really like my m1a on striker is that still viable to use or is ac12 must
Gives me a little distance
tulip charm
good luck with the min max version
hexed steppe
this one says it has a 10 increase on crit chance but this build already has 59,...
The build tool isnt updated to current seasons rebalanced attributes/wespons/brands
Should take that into account before settling on wh rolls over chc
hexed steppe
Ima use the sheets version to build this motar build
Mortar Supremacy 
sinful acorn
I need an idea for a shotgun build
I have a bunch of Custom M870's in store but not sure what to do with them
Determined sounds boring
Something with Brazen?
Memento, couple of blue cores and bunch of doublecrit items?
hexed steppe
Cant determine a shotgun anyways
hexed steppe
I have a bunch of Custom M870's in store but not sure what to do with them
Headhunter + hunters fury + pummel/brazen m870 + memento+ firewall spec shield.
Also known as hhf
sinful acorn
Headhunter + hunters fury + pummel/brazen m870 + memento+ firewall spec shield....
Interesting, I'll give that a spin
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKqAsA2EAGFbUfegXHA7OFIRKJmVmdgJyHSgSRLnMXZgCstMFPLG27Ag0J9erMHBjQ6Y0ZWAICk4BxCcwqBE17ZgkABwhJYUrJxzZ2BGwv9INW0A this is what I spun up for now, just did one control point with it
Technically budget HF I guess but I have all of that shit for it so might as well try what you said
Chainkiller with it or nah?
hexed steppe
yeah, can be other headhunter, but chainkiller hits max damage faster
onyx sage
headhunter by itself is so strong you can pair any brand with it for heroic and below
rich lotus
Rigger HH stomps btw
magic pilot
What is this rigger propaganda lately
hexed steppe
a new meta rises 🙌
sinful acorn
@hexed steppe are you supposed to reach 150% headshot with this somehow? I can't do it for whatever reason
Oh, scope can give me 10% more
silk solstice
i made my striker elmos build and i feel like its not as strong as its supposed to be but ive got most of the gear relatively optimized
sinful acorn
How much crit and crit damage?
silk solstice
55 108
sinful acorn
And no Coyote right?
sinful acorn
Oh cool
That seems fairly alright, I think SHD levels and optimizing everything can push you to like 140-150ish crit damage
silk solstice
i downloaded the game last night and i grinded so hard im shd 270 LMAO
silk solstice
is there like a way i can send my build without doing a ton of dif screenshots
sinful acorn
I was 520ish on friday morning and I'm 1344 now
silk solstice
thats wild.
sinful acorn
Yes
Looks to be pretty standard striker except a bit inflated since you're only SHD270
silk solstice
wdym a bit inflated
sinful acorn
You need SHD1000 to cap out all the SHD stats
Weapon damage, crit, crit damage, headshot
sinful acorn
Prob most important I guess
fresh fox
now im doing headshot prob
do crit damage or weapon damage
sinful acorn
If you go check on dummies, how much DPS does it say vs. veteran configged dummy
silk solstice
If you go check on dummies, how much DPS does it say vs. veteran configged dummy
max stacks n stuff?
sinful acorn
Ye
silk solstice
and headshots?
sinful acorn
Sure
fresh fox
dps tests in range are very inaccurate
silk solstice
thats what i was thinking tbh
sinful acorn
They're direction giving at least
fresh fox
best way is to find a spreadsheet that can do it once you input numbers in
sinful acorn
Not 100% accurate
silk solstice
well i was just not sure how good it was supposed to be
i really wanna try the incursion but i dont wanna be underprepared
fresh fox
what’s your build looking like
sinful acorn
He linked it above
silk solstice
yeah lul
sinful acorn
Long link
fresh fox
just use striker chest and like ceska gloves/holster/kneepads then you will be fine
magic pilot
If you go check on dummies, how much DPS does it say vs. veteran configged dummy
That is completely useless
sinful acorn
Not if I do the same
magic pilot
Yes it is.
sinful acorn
Do explain
magic pilot
I can go in the range rn and get 1 billion dps
sinful acorn
That's fine if you're shooting with the same gear as me and with no skills
urban latch
They're direction giving at least
Misdirection
sinful acorn
Oh it's just random between same setups or something?
Was comparing me and my friend just fine earlier
magic pilot
It's just not accurate in the slightest
There's so much miscalculation with the range
sinful acorn
I don't mean to use it as "this is how effective you are", I mean to compare my numbers to his with the same gear
magic pilot
Yea it won't be accurate at times, even with the same build
silk solstice
i dont understand why id take off obliterate and use striker chest
magic pilot
I've noticed the longer the instance is the same the more buggy it gets
sinful acorn
Striker chest is for incursions I guess
sinful acorn
I've noticed the longer the instance is the same the more buggy it gets
Oh that I didn't know
urban latch
Obliterate vs striker chest is situational
magic pilot
Striker chest for incursion, raid, legendary, and countdown imo
sinful acorn
Yeah that sounds right
magic pilot
In open world striker is honestly not the best option
silk solstice
i saw this for incursions but idk what that smg is or the gloves
sinful acorn
Ouroboros and Bloody Knuckles
solar sable
Bloody Knuckles and Ouroboros
magic pilot
i saw this for incursions but idk what that smg is or the gloves
Only for boss burns basically
sinful acorn
Ouroboros is from the Incursion
sinful acorn
Elmo is fine
magic pilot
Ouro is from, wright, lovers or the crate. 1% from bosses, 10% from crate
BK is RNG drop
Also I wouldn't recommend Ouro anymore either
urban latch
I need to update ouro to backfire in there
sinful acorn
Oh Raucey
silk solstice
ive got 51% chc rn with coyote not accounted, what should i put here? still chc?
sinful acorn
I love your evernotes
magic pilot
ive got 51% chc rn with coyote not accounted, what should i put here? still chc?
Yes re-adjust crit for the extra 6%
sinful acorn
Isn't 51% + coyote pretty good?
magic pilot
I need to update ouro to backfire in there
Even measured vector would be better iirc
sinful acorn
Oh I misunderstood
magic pilot
Isn't 51% + coyote pretty good?
Yea it's ideal for mid range buff
sinful acorn
I should go sleep
magic pilot
lol, I realized what you were saying
silk solstice
ive done every single control point on the map dude this shd grind gets wild
magic pilot
ive done every single control point on the map dude this shd grind gets wild
We used to never get 5x xp too so imagine without that
sinful acorn
Whatever slot that is
magic pilot
It used to be we got 2x xp but only for like 20 shd lvls
sinful acorn
Jeez
magic pilot
Back in my day 👴🏻
silk solstice
yeah i wanna get more shd but the grind is so boring
sinful acorn
I mean I played back in 2020 too but I only got shd17 back then
dw you only got 10 more hours until 5x XP ends
silk solstice
thats why im worried
magic pilot
Anyways I run striker differently
sinful acorn
I didn't run Coyote since my friend runs it
magic pilot
This is what I run basically all the time for striker, I don't raid but for incursion I use a different setup
sinful acorn
Same as me except I have Fenris chest iirc?
silk solstice
damn bro that shd level
magic pilot
That's the spreadsheet I made comparing the standard setups
magic pilot
damn bro that shd level
Second account too lol
sinful acorn
Oh Prodigy it's you
silk solstice
you have higher??
magic pilot
you have higher??
Yea my PS account is 5 or 6k I can't remember
magic pilot
Oh Prodigy it's you
I hide in the shadows 🥷
sinful acorn
Just go MM into some random daily projects, people well into 5 digits there sometimes
30k SHD
Every second random group
magic pilot
how do you get so high control points?
Bounties, and public executions, farming navy plaza is good too
magic pilot
Every second random group
Highest legit player I've seen was 78k
sinful acorn
Yeah I'm sure it was his brother farming for him
silk solstice
Bounties, and public executions, farming navy plaza is good too
interesting
magic pilot
I did navy plaza for all of my blueprints on pc
Took me like 3 days of playing to do 180 with directives
magic pilot
If it's truly legit
As far as we know, but you never know for sure🤷♂️
magic pilot
Would be too op
silk solstice
oh yeah someone told me to make this sniper build
magic pilot
For open world though I would definitely recommend OD, you can run it with all directives and you don't need to worry about striker stacks
sinful acorn
Was that me?
magic pilot
That's decent
magic pilot
Hotshot is better imo
sinful acorn
It's strong enough and you get massive qol from hotshot
magic pilot
Your high end isn't midmaxed but for solo it doesn't really matter, HH plus full red with an mmr basically clears everything
silk solstice
mmr?
sinful acorn
marksman rifle
sinful acorn
Same tbh
silk solstice
i think i need to start playing with people because solo content makes farming slower
like shd and gear
magic pilot
For high end, I'd probably go Fox, contractors, chainkiller, punch drunk, providence bp with vigi and either habs holster or dodge city
sinful acorn
I sometimes run acog scope and not digital scope
silk solstice
im fine with using hotshot if i knew the build
magic pilot
I sometimes run acog scope and not digital scope
This is basically it ^
I run no scope, but also no determined so it's personal preference
sinful acorn
Some people drop 1p hotshot for more damage
But I think 4p is pretty nice qol if you're consistent with your hits
magic pilot
I think negating the sniper reloads is better than most people realize
sinful acorn
Most definitely
silk solstice
so my issue is
magic pilot
If you can just consistently drop enemies without needing to stop you keep control of the fight way better
silk solstice
my chest peice with chainkiller is ceska
magic pilot
Chainkiller is the named version, headhunter is the talent
sinful acorn
Chainkiller is Walker & Harris chest with Perfect Headhunter
magic pilot
It's all good that's why we are here
sinful acorn
Farm summit with walker & harris allocation
magic pilot
I felt the same way after coming back post gear 2.0 changes so don't worry at all
sinful acorn
Your build will do fine there
silk solstice
its stressful bc it used to be simple back then
magic pilot
I've been in the same boat
sinful acorn
I started playing 2 weeks ago after having played in 2020-2021
Well no, 3 weeks ago now
silk solstice
Farm summit with walker & harris allocation
not countdown?
sinful acorn
Hum prob countdown is faster yeah
Can get lucky with hunter drops
Just insanely boring encounter for me
Fall asleep doing that twice in a row
magic pilot
This is what I've been recommending for open world farming, carnage is super strong option as well
silk solstice
im cooked
magic pilot
I run it with gunner to counter pistolero
silk solstice
theres so many things i need
sinful acorn
One thing at a time
magic pilot
Best part is farming so I wouldn't get overwhelmed
A lot of good pieces you'll passively get farming other stuff
magic pilot
Ideally
You want some help farming stuff? I know a group of players that can help you out
silk solstice
i could always use help lol
silk solstice
wdym
sinful acorn
Joke
sinful acorn
xd
hexed steppe
i one shot every single boss in the control points
until you run into a red bar hyena rusher , but thats every determined build
silk solstice
they suckkk
hexed steppe
<@336353669681512450> are you supposed to reach 150% headshot with this somehow?...
should be able too. may need 3rd attribute as hsd
silk solstice
if i get chain killer do i need a prov backpack for my hotshot build?
hexed steppe
no, chain killer + airaldi vigilance is a solid combo for 4pc hotshot
during this event the bag brand is irrelevant though
silk solstice
honestly i feel like my chest and bp is probably good enough
hexed steppe
honestly i feel like my chest and bp is probably good enough
hotshot has a lot of flexibility. as long as you are meeting the damage threshholds for the content youre tackling, then youre gold
silk solstice
i still want a chainkiller tho ngl
patent fossil
i still want a chainkiller tho ngl
Can you not just buy one from the white house vendor?
hexed steppe
its like a 1-2 countdown runs to get a solid chainkiller anyways. wh target
silk solstice
ive done 2 runs and not gotten one PERIOD
hexed steppe
need better Lootcifer sacrifices then.
🔥 😈 🔥
silk solstice
i have not slept
hexed steppe
vendor chainkiller not too terrible then ig
solar sable
hell yeah, just recal chc to hsd
silk solstice
why keep weapon handling
solar sable
if you have 100% stability in your sniper you'll have no weapon sway
tulip charm
wep handling doesnt affect aim speed
trim wedge
Ads has nothing to do with handling
silk solstice
yooooo i got bloody knuckles
soft apex
Where does one go for a good true patriot build?
soft apex
I mean where do I go for a good build set up.
urban latch
Pinned spreadsheet has a bunch of build guides
soft apex
Yeah I got no idea what I'm looking at
urban latch
In the spreadsheet or build guides
onyx sage
@vestal ibex we need the red arrows and circles...
rich lotus
Half these uncs never seen a spreadsheet in their life calm down
soft apex
I'm not even 20. I just don't know what I'm looking at.
vestal ibex
Eyes are for suckers
rich lotus
Oh 💀
soft apex
Thanks for assuming I'm old. When old people worked with spreadsheets first guy.
onyx sage
i assume everyone has done taxes
soft apex
I haven't
rich lotus
TurboTax lil bro wyd
soft apex
I don't make any money no need to do taxes.
urban latch
I'm not even 20. I just don't know what I'm looking at.
Are you looking at the spreadsheet or the build guides?
rich lotus
Haha sike I go to the random indian guy in the sketchy part of town for my taxes!
soft apex
I'm trying to navigate it. I'm on phone.
onyx sage
i mean i do that too i just say publicly agreeable options
soft apex
I'm currently just using an attempted DPS tank Hybrid build.
I say attempted cause it works for what I'm capable of tackling. Since I have no friends who consistently play the game or want to play.
Eh if anything I'll just go back to strikers and make it look like the true patriot set. I just like making people explode.
urban latch
Get yourself a regulus
soft apex
That's a raid weapon
soft apex
You mean if the randoms i match with dont immediately leave because my build isn't some meta hyper damage build that kills everything in under 3 seconds.
tulip charm
You mean if the randoms i match with dont immediately leave because my build isn...
Its easy to just run striker and get it over with
soft apex
Yeah that's probably best
solar sable
Most DPS roles in raids are Striker's, so anything other than that may not be desired
soft apex
I know. Most of the time I tried to do a raid I got insulted for not using the "glorious" striker build and at times called slurs.
You wouldn't think people who enjoy the math side of a video game would be so rude but yeah.
solar sable
eh, once you get the idea of what are the game's mechanics and shit you eventually end up matchmaking with rude people or crybabies
if they die first they leave
soft apex
Which seems to be a majority of the main part of the player base that does random matching for those modes. Probably because their friends if they have any don't wanna deal with it.
solar sable
I personally think that if you know what to do and find a newbie trying to do raids, I wouldn't get mad if they commit a mistake once or twice (if they don't listen then I will probably get frustrated)
silk solstice
is the incursion hard or can i matchmake it
solar sable
kind of, not too much
it's better if you make a LFG post in GCrock
soft apex
I think the most horrid part about the division games is that builds cannot be varied. People expect you to use specific ones and if you like ones that are not within the specified criteria your typically ostracized and ridiculed for not following the norm. It's even worse when you realize the game itself actively favors certain builds over others. So using what you want, and using what you have to are nowhere near the same. That's probably what makes the souls like games so enjoyable because people can use what they want and it's still entirely viable throughout the whole game
onyx sage
i mean there are only so many ways you can vary the gameplay in a shooter
solar sable
souls-like games are so good
onyx sage
from the outset this game has always made melee so unviable
soft apex
The division isn't one of those games sadly.
It's very apparent what builds are and aren't viable. Like I love the true patriot gear set but cannot use it for anything considered high tier difficulty especially not without teammates. I would get slaughtered in an instant. Meanwhile strikers seems to be the golden child as of late. Almost everyone doing pvp is using either strikers or head hunters and nothing else. Thankfully these same people play nothing But PvP so I mean hey play what you like. But these very same people will often be rude to you if you use what you like instead of what makes your numbers go the highest. It's disappointing but understandable due to the nature of an MMO shooter/Looter Shooter why the builds are so unbalanced and certain ones are heavily favored.
soft apex
Like PvP being unbalanced makes sense. But PvE having such favoritism for builds is just..........stupid.
onyx sage
this game has many levels of difficulties whereas souls-like games either really only have NG or NG+. and difficulties in themselves HAVE to exclude builds from the lower ones for them to be distinct
normal cypress
you can use pretty much anything, but ultimately it won't be as efficient as the meta builds
soft apex
I can never truly progress to the higher parts of the game because the game actively sees what I'm using and goes "Nah your not making it bucko." Like I wanna make people explode with firework boom booms :[
onyx sage
you're pretty much at the mercy of the devs reworking the set
but there will always be a meta
even in souls-like games
normal cypress
TP is still relatively viable in heroic content, ikias red TP is fun if you like explodey
but its not on the same level as an actual meta build in terms of efficiency
soft apex
The major point of my complaints are that I do not have many or really any friends to play this game. So I'm already screwed. And playing with randoms leaves me at their mercy because if they decide I'm not pulling my weight because of my build then they'll just abandon me mid mission and I will be either stuck or have to abandon it because I cannot complete it.
normal cypress
The major point of my complaints are that I do not have many or really any frien...
if you're looking for people to play with then there are plenty of LFG channels around. having said that i've played 98% of my time solo, its a fairly solo friendly series until you get to raids/incursions
bright raptor
I can never truly progress to the higher parts of the game because the game acti...
I've previously mentioned it but I actually do use True Patriot + Pointman + Catharsis on the Morozova fight during the raid
the main use is to help shield people through certain parts of the fight, but occasionally a True Son does explode into fireworks during that fight
soft apex
I have not made it to the point where I can even touch heroic. I can kinda do challenging myself but not very effectively. I don't think it helps that the games build system is BEYOND convoluted to the point that one slight change in the build will be the difference between me killing everything or doing peashooter damage which I've already noticed happening.
rich lotus
Except you should have a tank to do the mechanic on IH whereas any other scenario you don’t need one
normal cypress
there's no requirement to be playing at the maximum difficulty. sometimes that isn't even fun. play the way you want and have fun doing it. and get into an LFG to find some like minded people to do raids or other group content
soft apex
I mean. True Patriot is originally a tank set is it not? It's entire talent is based around support and eating damage no? It starts with an armor core and primarily support cores like bonus health and skill bonuses from what I get when the pieces drop.
bright raptor
but its not on the same level as an actual meta build in terms of efficiency
to be fair given how many people in public matchmaking run "what exactly are you afraid of?!" amounts of blue cores an all red TP would definitely be ahead
onyx sage
it's a tanky support set, not meant to be soaking damage
just due to the fact that just changing a dps set to armor rolls doesn't make it any more meaningfully tankier
you just delay the inevitable
soft apex
So should I go full blue or full red? I have it as half and half. With uhhh what's the mask.....chill out as my mask.
bright raptor
it doesn't really have anything for eating damage, and mainly dishes out the 3 buff/debuffs and the explosion if the enemy for once is grouped up
soft apex
I've primarily seen it used for a hybrid build. Specifically a damage tank. You have armor and you have decent damage. Is the reason I'm stagnant in stats because I'm not doing the higher difficulties?
normal cypress
So should I go full blue or full red? I have it as half and half. With uhhh what...
it depends on what fantasy you want to play into. it's not going to be the best set at any type of role. its also, and i mean this without any salt intended, sometimes a skill issue. if you go full red you need to be able to aim and know how to avoid taking damage.
magic pilot
What's the rof and weapon dmg bonus for harvest?
@normal cypress
Like the "talent"
soft apex
it depends on what fantasy you want to play into. it's not going to be the best ...
Oh I know I have a skill issue I'd never dispute that.
magic pilot
i'm getting in game, i'll look at that
Thanks
I think it's the last thing I need to add
normal cypress
Oh I know I have a skill issue I'd never dispute that.
well respectfully i don't think TP is really going to be the set that can bring you into higher difficulties. its primarily a support set, so you're gonna need teammates to run with rather than something you can run solo
soft apex
I'm mostly trying to do a practical aesthetics build. So it's still practical to use but has decent stats.
soft apex
well respectfully i don't think TP is really going to be the set that can bring ...
I've never wanted to play solo. I just don't have anyone to play with.
Also I'd never assume your being disrespectful unless you were actively taking down to me so your fine 👍
normal cypress
LFG/mission matchmaking. there will be people who are picky, but there will definitely be people who will play on regardless
bright raptor
I'm mostly trying to do a practical aesthetics build. So it's still practical to...
you can just equip its appearance on other gear pieces, I was doing that just now on a Chainkiller
normal cypress
you can also ensure you're the party leader when searching
soft apex
You know I never thought about it. I should probably switch my world difficulty to something higher than normal yes?
normal cypress
go to whatever difficulty you're most comfortable in. world activity matchmaking is based on your difficulty iirc
but missions are independent
magic pilot
Slap on glass cannon and get your ass kicked until you learn how to position better, that's what I got told and it worked for me
normal cypress
higher difficulty comes with higher minimum stat rolls on gear but also comes with the caveat that you might just die before you get it
urban latch
If your on normal difficulty it really doesn't matter what gear your running at all
soft apex
I'll switch to hard. I know hard difficulty is something I can regularly survive.
abstract mauve
Slap on glass cannon and get your ass kicked until you learn how to position bet...
this is peak wisdom
onyx sage
@magic pilot Harvest has 10% more base damage, and 93.125% RPM compared to normal Magnum
soft apex
I might just bum rush it into max damage and see how that goes.
abstract mauve
when in doubt dps it out
normal cypress
full red does force the get good aspect of the game into you tbf
soft apex
I don't wanna switch off my true patriot bag because that gives me 4% bonus to all 3 of the buffs Red, White and Blue.
That 4% doesn't seem like a lot but it can be a life saver I've noticed.
onyx sage
it's an opportunity cost. you can lose it to gain a much better buff like opportunistic
magic pilot
<@655545215897305102> Harvest has 10% more base damage, and 93.125% RPM compared...
So basically 7% less rof?
onyx sage
yes
magic pilot
Sick
soft apex
The Half and Half hybrid was working. But I've noticed enemies just do an unholy amount of damage no matter what. Like my LVOA does 190.2k damage with this current build. But I have 1.3M armor.
soft apex
Roger 🫡
onyx sage
The Half and Half hybrid was working. But I've noticed enemies just do an unholy...
I've noticed enemies just do an unholy amount of damage no matter what
yes, this is true everywhere
magic pilot
Sheet should be completely updated, if you find any errors please @ either @versed summit or me so we can fix
soft apex
Should I change my support cores to all red too?
soft apex
Mixes
The mask has +13,670 health and +10.4% skill haste
The chest has +4.6% explosive resistance and +10.1% critical hit damage.
The hip holster has +5.6% Headshot damage.
The kneepads have an attribute that is +11,564 Health.
The gloves have an attribute that is +13,670 health
The bag has +6.2% skill damage and +16,698 Armor on kill.
magic pilot
Oh boy
soft apex
I kinda just put whatever I had on them <->
normal cypress
i mean there's a lot there to unpack but generally speaking that's not what you want, for any kind of build
here's an example of a refined red TP build from ikia
note how as it's focused on being able to do damage, the attributes all help with that
there's no jack of all trades when it comes to making a viable build, it's just a disadvantage everywhere
health (except in niche scenarios) is generally a bad stat compared to everything else available. you only want skill damage for skill damage builds (with yellow cores). crit damage is going to be useless without a decent amount of crit chance. get my drift?
soft apex
I see I see
normal cypress
the way to identify a good piece of gear for the set/brand and slot you want is to have a decent roll in at least one of the stats you want, as you can recalibrate the other for a replacement stat
magic pilot
As red as possible
normal cypress
there's one thing to have a "brandset" and to get the bonuses, but the build primarily comes online by having the right attributes
soft apex
So I should craft new side attributes and keep farming TP until I get red cores to back up the damage?
normal cypress
you won't get red cores drop on TP. it only drops blue cores. and the loot system will weight drops with blue attributes too. so its going to be a tough farm to get the item with the two correct red attributes (chc and chd) so that you can roll the blue core to red
soft apex
So become tank is what I'm hearing <.<?
normal cypress
if you want red TP, put on a semi decent strikers build (all red, chc and chd) and farm out your TP pieces
hence, efficiency
soft apex
Or because funny. Switch to a full strikers, change it to look like TP, proceed to murder everything because yes
normal cypress
we've come full circle
normal cypress
manic pier
Still working on coyotes mask bc thats what someone had suggested but I was about to test this out, thoughts? obliterate is on my ceska also
soft apex
I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it.
shy willow
Still working on coyotes mask bc thats what someone had suggested but I was abou...
It's okay
Get fast hands or strained or something on your mp5
soft apex
Or I could be annoying and continue to use TP. Hmmm
shy willow
And get a double crit chest asap
normal cypress
Still working on coyotes mask bc thats what someone had suggested but I was abou...
work on that CHD but a good start
soft apex
I'm doing damage now
manic pier
Get fast hands or strained or something on your mp5
I have steady hand rn
soft apex
My headshot damage jumped up to 620k on average with me doing about 320k per normal shot.
shy willow
Yee steady hands just ain't that good tbh
manic pier
ok ok got it
soft apex
I hope Ubisoft survives the next like 4 years to release division 3 before they got bought out by tencent or whoever.
Also I feel like they should make it so that all scopes past 4x can be aimed in the scope and over the shoulder. I prefer the 8x on my gun but I don't like constantly looking down the scope.
onyx sage
that is a consciously made balancing decision
there is a chest talent called focus that gives you a ramping buff when you use 8x+ scopes, the buff is really strong, to counterbalance that you're forced into first person view
soft apex
Oh. I just wanted it for the looks. And hated being forced into the first person cause ghost recon has a camera toggle for all the scopes there.
Maybe it'll be different in division 3.
onyx sage
the scope has 30% hsd as its bonus
soft apex
If that ever comes out.
onyx sage
every scope has its bonus, it's not just looks
soft apex
True. It would be easier to just blow someone's head off in the 3rd person camera than first.
bright raptor
this was specifically nerfed because people would use the 12x scopes to load headshot damage on everything they could put it on in Div 1
soft apex
Makes sense. Hopefully they find a way to balance that come division 3 so we can use over the shoulder for all scopes. Maybe accuracy, range, and stability boosts instead of high damage boosts.
orchid timber
im not sure if i should stick with three providence or not. I need someone else's opinions on this
bright raptor
looks fine enough, you will get more stuff better rolled for critical hit damage as you level up
odd elk
im not sure if i should stick with three providence or not. I need someone else'...
im running almost the exact same build but with rifle and pesti
magic pilot
im not sure if i should stick with three providence or not. I need someone else'...
Looks good but I'd swap out Elmo's
Just work on getting full red as well
orchid timber
Looks good but I'd swap out Elmo's
swap out elmos with what? also i like elmos since its stats are just generally really good
magic pilot
The dps on Elmo's is kinda lacking now, and the crit stats aren't as useful on high end since you have a surplus of crit
You are 11% over crit cap if you had the right rolls and optimized
orchid timber
moment i take off elmos my crit chance goes down to like 46% and i would rather have atleast 50%
magic pilot
Yes, because you have 2 blue rolls on your gear and aren't optimized + not shd 1k
orchid timber
Yes, because you have 2 blue rolls on your gear and aren't optimized + not shd 1...
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magic pilot
You are either gonna have to change it now or once you hit 1k and refarm for your build
orchid timber
You are either gonna have to change it now or once you hit 1k and refarm for you...
👍
hexed steppe
im not sure if i should stick with three providence or not. I need someone else'...
👆 swap out ceska for grupo. only reason to use 3x providence is the ability to stack with another chd brand
magic pilot
That's probably the best option rn^
flat hill
Any suggestions on a fast way to get coyotes mask?
magic pilot
Any suggestions on a fast way to get coyotes mask?
Countdown
Also try to get a vigi backpack, that alone will make up for the lower crit
Probably the best thing you can do to get more dps out of your current setup
orchid timber
dont worry about crit chance for now?
orchid timber
gotcha
magic pilot
It's a big increase
hexed steppe
dont worry about crit chance for now?
could also swap fenris for contractors gloves for the extra dta
magic pilot
And on your build it would be another multiplier you don't have
Do you want me to put our suggestions into the builder? It'll be easier to see and you can save the link
orchid timber
Do you want me to put our suggestions into the builder? It'll be easier to see a...
please and thank you
but what should I use other than elmos?
hexed steppe
elmo still decent. famas, lexington, police m4, strega exotic, there are some other choices
not sure what top danage talent tho
orchid timber
i really like how the augs feel in this game but im not sure if they would be good for this build and what not
flat hill
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwVgtMYMxgjBYAMSXLajiBcwAcCZ5Jh50z...
that site is nuts lmfao
magic pilot
If you get coyotes you can also swap that in
magic pilot
that site is nuts lmfao
@subtle bluff is working on the new version
Ask him why it's taking so long
subtle bluff
1 Dev and 1 QA
flat hill
@magic pilot when it comes to getting the mask, does difficulty matter?
soft apex
Is Virtuoso a good set?
flat hill
<@655545215897305102> when it comes to getting the mask, does difficulty matter?
Like would queuing normal work or better to pick heroic?
magic pilot
<@655545215897305102> when it comes to getting the mask, does difficulty matter?
Queue into challenging
flat hill
Queue into challenging
thanks
magic pilot
No one plays countdown lower than challenging btw it'll be hard to find a match anyway
barren herald
strega build anyone
steady copper
Is Virtuoso a good set?
no
soft apex
I figured not. The talents may sound good on paper but a lot of them flop in practice.
steady copper
better off with sets like striker, heartbreaker, hotshot, hunter’s fury
depending on your playstyle
soft apex
I'm using true patriot with some striker pieces.
orchid timber
@magic pilot i know i wont be able to get bighorn as of now but later at some point will be getting bighorn worth it? Ive heard its pretty good from some people and Im an aug fanboy so it gets bonus points.
gentle lichen
<@655545215897305102> i know i wont be able to get bighorn as of now but later a...
Pvp yes
Pve not so much
fresh fox
it’s good in pve
hexed steppe
better off with sets like striker, heartbreaker, hotshot, hunter’s fury
dont forget about nego. nego top tier dps, nego is 😍
unkempt shell
strega build anyone
Nope use the Lexington striker build
sinful acorn
I wish I didn't get my Lexington from the stash at lvl1 and lvl4
hazy steeple
In the devs defense, you were warned, at least for the 2nd one.
Expect it to re-appear at some point, best bet is via the Loot Goblin.
hazy steeple
I mean it's good and all, but you can absolutely use other stuff to be as effective with the build.
sinful acorn
Started playing just after new years, saw a shiny weapon in my stash, took it. Started feeling slower and I noticed it was there again and I took it again
To my surprise it didn't happen a third time
Only a week ago I realised the mistake xd
But yeah I don't like striker anyways
I like Virginian a lot
This is my jam if I wanna do dps
hazy steeple
high-end DPS builds are great, I'm going to assume that's a decent one.
but if you're running with a team and they ask for a specific build, you'll need it to stay in the group.
sinful acorn
For sure, I have a cookiecutter striker loadout for that purpose
I just think this does more burst DPS at least
No CC other than stagger from big crits
4-7mil body shots that I can dish out fairly fast
maiden jasper
Hi, I just started my journey in the game and I would like to look for some good build for endgame PVE activity
sinful acorn
Do you have any exotics like Coyote's Mask, St. Elmo's Striker, Pestilence, Ninjabike Backpack?
maiden jasper
at the moment i have nothing, i want to find a build to understand what exactly to collect and farm