td2-build-advice

[trim wedge]

Gotta check my backup character lol loaded with shiz

Anything god rolled or even close I keep, call me a hoarder

[onyx sage]

as you play you'll just know whether something is worth keeping

it's not always something with maxed stats

[trim wedge]

Yeah still getting back into things I just only got my eagle bearer and ravenous last week

Once I get ouro I’ll have all 3 but still wanna run just for fun

[onyx sage]

that looks good enough

you don't have a ceska piece?

[trim wedge]

Said ceska or groupo so I just put groupo

Ceska best in slot?

[solar sable]

ceska for extra chc

[trim wedge]

I can change mod on my mask to chc

Pushes me to 53

Just lose 12 chd

Put me at 55 chc*

[onyx sage]

ceska lets you get more crit value overall

[solar sable]

but lowers your CHD
it's hard to maintain strikers chest stacks in most situations

[onyx sage]

then you can replace one crit chance stat with crit damage

49 chc + 10 from coyote mid-buff is 59

[trim wedge]

Lemme dig into the stash see what I can come up with

[vale bluff]

elaborate >_> never seen rav 1 shot something

[onyx sage]

ravenous's damage isn't all that great so it's not a weapon to hyperfocus for its own damage, but it gives you a buff to damage to armored plates, and that buff can be applied and then used on other weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQZ-TWuhPO8 this is a guide for one shotting gray in iron horse, uses ravenous

[trim wedge]

Witch route would be cheaper to optimize

[onyx sage]

you'll optimize all of them anyway

[trim wedge]

I can re roll one and only have to optimize one slot

[onyx sage]

i know, you can recal one of them and have 2 left to optimize

you'd recal the lowest one

[trim wedge]

Okay so switch gloves bck to striker and now have Ceska holster

57.8 CHC

114.1 CHD

Good enough for incursion

[onyx sage]

trade some chc for chd

since you have coyote

[trim wedge]

Okay traded 6 CHC for 11.6 CHD

[onyx sage]

just remember that it will give you 10 or more chc if you engage with enemies at mid to long range, but in incursion if you're playing the best strats you won't have to worry about it

that's good. you can live with that

[trim wedge]

51.8 CHC

125.7 CHD

Cheers bro thanks 🙏🏻

[inner forge]

Am I the only person who doesn't like Strikers for Lexington gameplay? Or maybe I'm just too reliant on AoK as a stat...

[trim wedge]

I’m just making it for raids/incursion for reg world play & missions I switch between hotshot/ongoing directive/& hunters fury

I wanna make an all red build without using the 4 pc brand sets but it looks intimidating to find so many god rolled golds 🤦🏻

But I loved Lightweight M4 on Div 1 so loving the Lexington is natural

[hexed steppe]

not alone. i prefer nego for my dps

[subtle bluff]

That's the Right thinking. Striker is no matter what the top of the DPS charts which when there's a fight that's basically a DPS check you need to use it. Otherwise you can use w/e you like.

[marble maple]

what goes in the last two slots for a 4 pc hotshot build? Currently have hotshot pieces in mask, gloves, holster and backpack slot

chest piece is gonna be a headhunter talent but I dont know from what brand

[polar condor]

easy to build:
chest: Chainkiller (Named Walker & Harris, Perfect Headhunter talent)
backpack: Airaldi brand with Vigilance

unicorn variant (slightly stronger but very, very rare):
chest: Habsburg with Headhunter
backpack: Habsburg with Vigilance

the problem with the latter is, that it has to drop with the correct attributes (headshot dmg + weapon handling) and the right talent as you'll have to roll the core from blue to red. I'd recommend the easy to build variant for a start.

[marble maple]

whats the dmg diff between perfect headhunter and the normal one

[polar condor]

iKia made a sheet for HS Sniper setups. You can find the Chainkiller and the Habsburg variants in the separate Tabs:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ca3qnv2VUs4KF9xBz6zLsGW2tclFcmnQryJA4C4tbNM/edit?gid=1266348672#gid=1266348672

it depends on your Hotshot stacks and mmr choice but around 500k-1M, which isn't making much of a difference when looking at numbers of 25M and up tbh

[marble maple]

Also how do you deal with heavy armour enemies?

Because they cant get oneshot by hotshot right?

[hoary sail]

u need to break helment first

but u will loose stack of ur chainkiller. So need to a kill a red or purple nd then kill the heavy

[marble maple]

What's the fastest way to break helm?

[polar condor]

what I do is this: If I don't have stacks or the Headhunter buff, I headshot 1 or more adds that are easy to kill and don't have a helmet, then I shoot the chunga which 100% pops the helmet with the buffs active, then it usually dies on the follow up shot

chungas don't have a whole lot of hp, so an unbuffed followup to the head is enough in my experience

[hoary sail]

the way @polar condor tells u

[polar condor]

also when running determined: you can 1 tap dogs or robots and then wait till they explode and you'll get your determined buff back as if it were a headshot kill if determined was previously active

[modest path]

trying a high end rifle build, using MDR with boomerang , is there better options?

[magic pilot]

Yours is basically the same, maybe run killer?

[modest path]

what are your modifiers?

[modest path]

interesting

[magic pilot]

Modifiers? I don't use them ever

Couldn't name a single one of them

[modest path]

oh okey kk

thanks for the feedback

is MDR the best option?

[magic pilot]

Let me check

Mk-17, sig 716 (not cqb) and MDR all good options

Basically the same in terms of burst dps

[modest path]

thanks!

[warm knot]

I run spotter+(normal) vigilance

[warm knot]

I'm retty much the same. I just run a grupo instead of 3 zoo, then technician+spotter+flatline and preservation for backup weapon.

[limpid pelican]

Any changes to hhf or raid crit/hs builds that are worth mentioning?

Gonna try to update what I can tonight buildwise, haven't been on div in ages. Also can't find if any metas changed for incursions

[primal vessel]

the hunter killer build u told me
its all red?

[fresh fox]

no

the raid dps builds just use lexington instead of whatever ar

[limpid pelican]

Cool ty. Still same heal and dps builds for paradise lost i assume then?

[fresh fox]

yea

strikers and future are king

[limpid pelican]

Easy enough

[onyx sage]

welcome back sir

[trim wedge]

@magic pilot any videos on that rifle build for more in depth info?

[magic pilot]

It's eagles grasp, Fox, ceska, coyotes, 2 regular zwia

Eagles and fox with chd, everything else chd/chc

[magic pilot]

I run 2 blue but it's personal preference

[magic pilot]

Instead of 3rd zoo you could run PGC, it'll do more than the grupo

[tawdry flare]

is 5.11 still the meta?

[limpid pelican]

Good to be back

[hexed steppe]

5.11 still unlocks godmode

[warm knot]

I told ya, I run spotter chest + flatline. I don't deal great with glass unless its drone+turret build.

[tranquil moat]

looking for some feedback on this build i put together.
mainly a solo player, so i wanted a balance of dmg but some survivability too, hence the belstone gloves for the armor on kill and armor regen.
i also used the ninjabike backpack to take advange of getting the 4 piece heartbreaker talent, 2 piece fenris, and 2 piece bellstone, plus the additional skill tier gets my shield up to level 6.
still working on getting all the pieces maxed out, and just at expertise level 5 (SHD 476 right now).
also, just started yesterday turning on the season modifiers, so learning how to play with those on has been fun.

[trim wedge]

Spotter chest flatline and nego PHEW

slept on

[vestal ibex]

I'd just go memento and swap out the belstone for your 4th HB item.

[tranquil moat]

is memento that much better? i just really dont like having to run around to collect the trophies.
kinda OCD and i have the compulsion to go around and collect them all even after i have cleared an area.

[trim wedge]

For a run and gun play style

[onyx sage]

well at a minimum just drop ninjabike and use a good backpack talent like vigilance, along with regular brand items

memento is really good though, it's a fair trade for the multitude of buffs it offers

the goto setup uses the HB chest too

[tranquil moat]

i'll give it a try later tonight.

i do like getting the 30% reload with fenris, that lexington reload very fast with it

[vestal ibex]

I mean at the end of the day it's solo heroic, almost anything will work in the end once you know enough about the game.

[tranquil moat]

i'll swap out some things tonight and try some different combos.
end goal for me was to get some armor regen/on kill and balance that with enough dps since i play solo most of the time

thanks for the tips guys

[vestal ibex]

I'd just rock a palisade minor in that case.

[magic pilot]

Whoops I missed that sorry

[tranquil moat]

also, going to try and find a more active xbox clan. the one im in is ded

[trim wedge]

Same I need a ps one been through 5 all dead

[vestal ibex]

Become the active leaders you wanna see.

[onyx sage]

or get on pc

[sly ferry]

thoughts on how to improve build?

[trim wedge]

Tried, building a clan ain’t easy

I don’t game enough for a pc

[magic pilot]

Chainkiller

[trim wedge]

Just casual after work

[magic pilot]

And vigilance on bp

[tranquil moat]

i used to play on stadia, which was cross compatible with pc. had a nice character built there, over 1500 shd level, in a good clan, did all the raids together, had EB and ravenous, but then google shut down stadia and i lost him. decidec to restart on xbox a few months ago

[vestal ibex]

vigi on backpack

[magic pilot]

Community is definitely bigger on pc

[sly ferry]

Chainkiller and a Vigilance backpack, got it, should I keep the same brand for the backpack?

[vestal ibex]

idk my clan was easy to throw together. Just be active and play with people.

[magic pilot]

Same

[vestal ibex]

You could go airaldi if you want.

[magic pilot]

Basically the same

[tranquil moat]

i know. but i have an xbox, and my laptopt cant run it worth a flip.

[magic pilot]

Rip

[trim wedge]

I did everyone goes through division phases and quits/becomes inactive

[sly ferry]

does the 10% MR damage weigh more than +13% headshot?

[onyx sage]

yes

[sly ferry]

got it, araldi vigilance it is

[magic pilot]

Never put in on a scale before

[vestal ibex]

But tbf as prod said it's mostly the same because the line between things is much smaller in HH builds.

[marble maple]

If Im running a hotshot build, I dont have to hold with the trigger for nemesis right?

[onyx sage]

it'll add up though especially if you're trying to hit a high breakpoint like in legendary

[onyx sage]

you do

hotshot doesn't do anything to help with that

[marble maple]

So do I run double snipers then?

[vestal ibex]

yus

[onyx sage]

you can

[marble maple]

sr-1 for normal enemies and nemesis if I cant get kills

Also how many red cores until the damage is overkill with the hotshot build?

[magic pilot]

For solo I run bloodsucker but full red

In group you need full red and vigi

[modest path]

@magic pilotdo you have a clan?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah bro has a rad clan.

[magic pilot]

On pc no, I had one on PlayStation before

I'm in a pc clan but idk if we are full rn

[fresh fox]

use nemesis at the start of the fight

1st kill nemesis -> 2nd kill other sniper -> 3rd kill other sniper….

and so on

[jolly island]

Need a good build for legendary which I like to play a lot . Any advice hit me up

[jolly island]

Great thanks I'll build it 🙂

[pearl turtle]

is the memento worth using on a skill build? (turret and drone) i just got one from a cache

[hexed steppe]

It's ok, but you'll see a lot better damage with talent like tech support.

[pearl turtle]

my other backpack is force multiplier with perfect combined arms

which is what i normally use

[hexed steppe]

I do use memento on a skill dps setup, with crit on everything

Tech support you lose 5% but you gain a lot of talent uptime

[pearl turtle]

i’m running a skill turret drone build with chc/chd

[hexed steppe]

The only reason I use memento on that specific build is because it's my only source of skilldamage and I can utilize the other parts of memento talent.

[pearl turtle]

ahh okay, i’m still tryna farm another capacitor anyway for better roles, not having much luck

i got the first one from the challenges, but it never appeared in the reconfigure vendor at the white house rip

all my other first collected exotics did

[hexed steppe]

You it should be available. But it's been hit or miss with that stuff lately.

[pearl turtle]

it’s not and it’s been like a few weeks now or so, shame

[hexed steppe]

#td2-build-advice message
This is that mem setup tho

[pearl turtle]

nice!

ive been farming countdown so much for another capacitor but no luck, not even with AR target loot on anything

[hexed steppe]

Force multiplier is much better on something like mortar or cluster seeker.
But tech support is king on with turret/drone since it's a lot of uptime so its basically always procced

[pearl turtle]

oh? i’ll note that down!

[pale plover]

Anyone have a good solo, legendary tank, and heal set build they could share. Screenshots to messages is fine. New player seeking advice. Thanks!

[versed summit]

I wouldn’t recommend a tank tbh otherwise these are some striker builds and a healer build that work well. There’s also striker/healer builds in the pinned spreadsheet.

[fair dragon]

solo legendary tank
yeah nah not a good idea to be a human decoy when you're playing alone.

[pale plover]

Well just Tank build in general for group play. Just trying to have some chase builds to work towards 😎

[onyx sage]

you don't use tank in groups either

there are only 3 fights in the entire game that you would use a tank build in

2 if we're pushing it

[pale plover]

Oh okay, thanks!

[dusky beacon]

Someone have a good dz damage tank Regen build?

[fresh fox]

in the pinned spreadsheet, under the “Hub (Builds)” tab it will be included in the “PVP Basics and Starters Builds”. your best option which is listed in that Evernote will be the “bighorn regen:” build in that list

[dusky beacon]

I can’t find it

[broken edge]

Its funny i did that once and one guy said i was making stuff up

[onyx sage]

i understood that reference

[sullen sun]

You guys ready for a Tencent run Division 3?

[tulip charm]

No lol

[dusky beacon]

Thx

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwNgtAzGAMYEzxkgjA2qmy5gXKTYyhhyU22aBWOGUCRRwwVL5MezZibPr7wAVkgo+vHnihciY0bmRF66BHHARwAdgCchdM2QAOdnGh0dfbfIB09ZtBxxgUZEJnjg917gjbP0IA

is that good?

[limpid elk]

i have no idea, but if it's recommended by this discord, i suppose so

im running a bloodsucker bp, pestilence build that i found on youtube, and having lots of fun with it

[dusky beacon]

Can you send me this YouTube link?

[limpid elk]

well, its INSANE. are you sure?

[dusky beacon]

Yes i am sure

[limpid elk]

please forgive me, min/max people..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHxzF8Urh3Y&t=260s

[dusky beacon]

LOL I have seeing this video 2 days ago 😅😂

[limpid elk]

i enjoy it

[dusky beacon]

But thanks

I play this game like 2 months now and it’s so fun to play and make builds or testing stuff from other people

[limpid elk]

yes, just dont admit its from youtube

[dusky beacon]

I've already made a few builds myself but they weren't as good as you see on YouTube and you like to get information from others

[limpid elk]

i've learned that having fun is all that matters. i enjoy survivability and making things die without my having to even shoot them, hence the pestilence. and i love me some surviability

[rich lotus]

you guys think i should go for a striker or heartbreaker build

[trim wedge]

Question

What am I doing wrong ? Build hits like a truck but everytime I pop my head up to even shoot an elite 5-6 taps me

[kindred mango]

It’s a red build. Yes

[trim wedge]

I have multiple red builds don’t suffer the same problem

[steel grove]

Ah yes because blue cores are gonna save you

[trim wedge]

He hasn’t played since tu22 forgive him

But any advice ?

[tulip charm]

I mean its a trade off

[kindred mango]

They will if you have utility to go with them. Regen, aok, memento, bloodsucker

[trim wedge]

I had it with 2 blue cores still get downed constantly 3 blue cores is way to much damage trade off makes the build terrible so is it just not a good build to run?

[tulip charm]

Run Scorpio

[trim wedge]

I’m just playing with new builds so I don’t constantly use my 3 striker set ups but I keep running back as all the other builds don’t preform for me

As primary?

[tulip charm]

Or use a shield

Can be both for OD

[trim wedge]

I might try shield instead of decoy

[steel grove]

The more blue cores the faster you'll die

[trim wedge]

cause I 15-20 bullet an elite it’s insane with the hollow point ammo but get downed so dang easy so maybe run shield and dif specialization?

[subtle bluff]

I'm sorry what?

[tulip charm]

Ig play a bit far back

[trim wedge]

Ima keep experimenting not giving up yet but yeah my striker play style does have me in the enemies face a lot 🤦🏻

[hoary atlas]

Is that Bad idea use Double Lexington, If use Striker Build

[tulip charm]

I mean why would you want to use 2 lexi

[steel grove]

You can't kill fast with blue core bleu core mains are the worst

[subtle bluff]

If you're trying to face the world at once yes you will have problems.

[trim wedge]

I use cover but when I pop up they take my head off so maybe playing further back will suffice

Feels like I’m playing with glass cannon 😂

Mfers hurt

[subtle bluff]

Then say it that way.... The less Weapon Damage the slower things died.

Having Blue cores will not make you "die" faster.

[trim wedge]

Just makes you a bit useless in any “end game” content ?

[subtle bluff]

in what sense?

[trim wedge]

It’s a question

[hoary atlas]

Is pestilence is good for pve ?

[kindred mango]

This is a hotshot build with bloodsucker on the bag if you want to try something different. Tons of bonus armor

[tulip charm]

Yes

[kindred mango]

One blue core on that

[subtle bluff]

I just a leggo dua in like 20 mins with bunch of full red striker gear guys.

[hoary atlas]

I did Use Pestilence and Lexington then Gear is 3 Umbra 2 Striker 1 Ninjabike 3 Armor 3 Damage

[trim wedge]

I have a hotshot build with and w/o bloodsucker both already proficient just tryna get my ongo dir proficient so was wondering if I’m doing anything wrong

[kindred mango]

Just a trade off really. Kill or be killed hehe

[trim wedge]

Exactly lol

[tulip charm]

I mean it looks like you like fire rate alot

[trim wedge]

I’m personally not a fan of vigilance outside of hotshot tho

I can never not get shot in a looter shooter

[subtle bluff]

You shouldn't need bloodsucker on Hotshot imo but I guess it doesn't hurt since you should be able 1shot everything almost anyways.

[subtle bluff]

imo I hate these builds... There so dumb..

[hoary atlas]

Use Umbra it does 202 ChD and 48 CHD

Striker + Umbra

[subtle bluff]

ROF is nice but it only can do so much.

With the other way around your Pesti ticks do way more dmg.

[tulip charm]

But its fun and different

[subtle bluff]

Yea why we saw soooo many people at the start of this season have it then they all were QQ's about not being able to do heroics...

I should at least build a Pesti build to have it but I don't wanna reroll my Pesti 😐

[kindred mango]

How about swapping coyote for memento for fun and see how that goes

[tulip charm]

You’re running dta?

Noob lol

[subtle bluff]

It's the only one I have.. 😐

[subtle bluff]

I use it on a few builds.. HH HF the new meta Strikers um.. Rifle stuff, OD etc

[tulip charm]

I do aswell 🤔

[hoary atlas]

My pestilence use Chc

[subtle bluff]

I want that one

[hoary atlas]

Attributes

[subtle bluff]

Either CHC or ROF Pesti but meh. IDK where I'd use it.

[tulip charm]

Wait chow you dont have components?

[subtle bluff]

None..

[tulip charm]

??????

[subtle bluff]

There all eaten by my exp list of stuff...

[tulip charm]

What exp

[subtle bluff]

Weapons Skills.

[hoary atlas]

Anyone know which Talent best for lexington

[tulip charm]

27?

[tulip charm]

Depends on the build

[subtle bluff]

I am 27 but just getting them to 15-20 ish

[hoary atlas]

I'm use Measured

[tulip charm]

Its good

[subtle bluff]

There's no "Best"

[hoary atlas]

Ok

[subtle bluff]

It's up to you and your playstle, build and content.

[hoary atlas]

Preservation is Good Talent ?

[tulip charm]

Meh

[subtle bluff]

Measured, Stained, Flatline and a few others.

[tulip charm]

If you really need it then fine

[subtle bluff]

Not worth IMO.

Either use Gunner or get a AoK brandset thing

[hoary atlas]

I had no luck find ar with Measured talent

Sorry wrong type

[subtle bluff]

Just keep grinding you'll get them eventually,

[hoary atlas]

I see

Well im gonna grinding Attributed gear

At summit legendary

[subtle bluff]

For max that makes sense if not just keep doing CD so you can get exotic/named caches. Also mix doing your short priority Obj

[hoary atlas]

I see thanks for tips

[next shadow]

Any tank builds for pvp?

[limpid elk]

#ROASTME tell me how much fun I'm not having

[rich lotus]

not much to roast

i mean i just feel bad for your teammates thats all

[hexed steppe]

throw glass or oblit on chest and youll be in a lot better shape.. pretty sure vanguard is doing nothing atm

[limpid elk]

i cant deal with glass cannon. i like to run in all rambo like

[hexed steppe]

no shield, no vanguard.. run oblit

[limpid elk]

but but, i survive and kill things and have fun

[hexed steppe]

but tbh, if youre getting kills and bloodsucker and catharsis doing their thing, regular glass should be a cakewalk

[limpid elk]

i get hit once
, and am in the red and having to hide

[hexed steppe]

at this point, any other chest talent would be better. the current isnt able to be procced, so it might as well not have any talent, is kinda what im getting at

but stupidity runs deep sometimes 🔥

[limpid elk]

well yeah, but you're a professionaly

[hexed steppe]

go have some fun , youll get a carry easy

[limpid elk]

i feel so bad

[hexed steppe]

ever hear of unbreakable?

look into it, itll fit better and not kill you

[limpid elk]

i never die with this and i love seeing things go UGH before i even know they are there

very sad that i'll never make your elite team though. big sad

[hexed steppe]

anyways

[hoary atlas]

System Corruption already useless or Still usable ?

[limpid elk]

saw a great build on youtube for it

looked fun, but pvp sucks, so i will never know

[hoary atlas]

I use 4 System corruption 1 catharsis and zero f

[solar sable]

Not the yt builds...

[limpid elk]

i too utilize sero f on a daily basis

not in any builds though

[hoary atlas]

I have Two Revolver

Orbit and Prophet

[limpid elk]

SwoRD ftw

lolol. bring the hate

sTeaLz buIlDz amirite?!

[hoary atlas]

I'm gonna make another build suitable like The Hunters Roleplay

[versed summit]

More like actual scripts lol

[limpid elk]

if fine. i like "her" voice lol

totally on-board with our soon-to-be AI overlords

[shy willow]

Isn't she the one that robs everything

[limpid elk]

yes

but, original content doesnt exist, so it's fine

EVERY build idea or concept here is taken from someone else

EVERY single solitary movie idea from the past 50 years is stolen

our only option is to have fun with what we have

[hexed steppe]

ill give that too ya.. you definitely didnt steal that build and its very "original"

[limpid elk]

never ever said it was. and neither is yours. "I PUT CRD ON MINE INSTEAD HURRRRR"

[shy willow]

At a glance why is vanguard there while running both an lmg and no shield bruh😭

[limpid elk]

because im not an edgy min/max douchebag and i have fun

[shy willow]

It's not a case of having fun it's literally a dead talent on that build

[limpid elk]

dont need a shield with all that bonus armor and creative hiding

i have no talent in real life and choose to emulate that in game

also, i play a girl

with the coven spray on ALL gear

im pretty though

i bet not a single one of you are listening to Pantera

[onyx sage]

this is a better meme

i went to painstaking detail optimizing everything

[limpid elk]

big ups bru. i donated all materials SOOO many times

been playing for 5 years, 445 SHD

contractors and fox's are all you need. the rest is filler

oh, and ninjabike

ok, im just being silly now

[onyx sage]

i enjoyed it a bit

[limpid elk]

just love seeing heads explode, lol. yes, ninja is fine

[vestal ibex]

No expertise feelsbadman...

[onyx sage]

need mah mules but i couldn't care less 💀

[shy willow]

If I can't be bothered farming lengmo what's the next best thing for pesti

[left relic]

On going directive

[limpid elk]

one run of cd will net you all lengmo

ogd = dz pain. but why?

these people

[left relic]

I mean tbf I don’t really do dz most of the time I barely find anything good

[limpid elk]

exactly. run cd. win

i KNOW these guys seem pro, but ....

not a single one of them have heard of slayer or exodus but still claim to know stuff.. Really?

would shit their collective pants if they listened to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-8Q0FrTmA&list=PL6RBbYxWS2CitciMossfkA0dMkk9hgADi&index=7

[shy willow]

Probably better to have something with sadist than pesti on OD

[shy willow]

The lengmo pcs for the pesti build needs to all be unicorns

[limpid elk]

or build it like me and -care while heads pop all over the place still

i do have a special place in my empty black heart for those that cant have fun without a generic "this is it' build though.

[tulip charm]

Pretty much good old reliable

[urban latch]

Are you looking for actual advice?

[tulip charm]

Im running Bluescreen more than pesti now

[limpid elk]

no, sorry, just being anti-elitist advice

[tulip charm]

??????

[urban latch]

Ok, so your just trolling and wasting everyone's time, cool...

[limpid elk]

oops, not meat for you, but also, meant for you if you have that mindset

not trolling whatsoever. i hate all of you that shit on people builds because they arent 14000 SHD and perfect

[shy willow]

ive seen shd 50s with better builds than high shd players lol

besides this is build advice

if anything posted in here can be improved then ppl are gonna try to help improve it

[tulip charm]

Also it depends on the content you’re trying to do. If I see someone trying to join lets say Raids, Incursions, and Legendary without a somewhat decent build you’re just making everyone’s experience worse.

[shy willow]

that too

[tulip charm]

Like at that point you should already know the basic knowledge if you’re doing those content

[shy willow]

like run whatever you want solo but in groups its different

[limpid elk]

yeah, i apoligize . we need to take this much more seriously

groups probably hate me bacause i kill everything before they can even see it. i understand

oh shit, my crit chance is only 5.4 percent on that one gear piece. im doomed and should quit\

you are stressing people out because they dont have Ravenous, but I'M the bad guy

[tulip charm]

Bruh what?

I dont think anyone here does that anymore

If you already have the basic stat its whatever

[limpid elk]

maybe, as a shining beacon of light in the darkness you dont

[gloomy spruce]

So what is it exactly that you seek?

[limpid elk]

acceptance of the lesser endowed

[tulip charm]

As in?

[gloomy spruce]

Endowed or educated?

[subtle bluff]

WTF... Let's back on Topic......

[limpid elk]

ok, im happy now. that's two responses in incredulity

[subtle bluff]

Just stop. This channel is used for build talks. Let's keep it there.

[limpid elk]

40k dps, 119% cute damage

[tulip charm]

K

[nocturne socket]

This channel is for build advice, not posting random pictures or fighting over some bs. You can do that elsewhere, but not in this server.

[sullen sun]

Anybody know why Ongoing isn’t working right in Legendary content?

[subtle bluff]

It works. Just isn't has good since things don't die has quickly on Legendary

[gloomy spruce]

Yes on to more important and scholarly pursuits like developing the perfect ninjabike and cooler combo builds!

[umbral basin]

Got bullet king last night was going to get build for it, what ppl think better for it... striker set or Nego? Or is there another set i should look out for?

[sullen sun]

Are you still able to get the Stovepipe chest piece?

[shy willow]

I think it was exclusive to the manhunt as a final reward

[sullen sun]

I’ve completed it but I think in order to get it you had to run it on Heroic?

[shy willow]

I'm fairly sure the final rewards aren't difficulty locked

[sullen sun]

I don’t have it though but it says I’ve completed it

[shy willow]

Did you do it while it was live

Or as legacy

[sullen sun]

Legacy I think..

[shy willow]

Twas only available while it was running iirc

After you 100 percent the hunt

[dreamy valve]

Might as well go all the way and have 6 blue cores. Not sure why you have pointman though

[strong cave]

Sorry to poke my nose in on such an old chat but it's still usable. Very very niche uses for the gearset itself. Biggest weakness of the gearset is the cooldown timer for armor kits. Can't get kills with system corruption, you'll be waiting 20s per kit (15s with chest).

Damage in close range is a monster. Heartbreaker's biggest weakness is fully pulse res sys corr. At range, you're basically shooting staples. The only time I should ever see somebody use system corruption in PvP now is if you run memento backpack with it or you're playing ad rush + intimidate in a group setting

System Corruption is my favorite gearset, I play alot with it in PvP and PvE. It heavily needs a buff. With the pvp meta guns being buffed for all content, it makes sys corr builds that much more obsolete :(

Sys corr needs a slight damage buff for the bonus armor part of the talent and the cooldown timer needs to be decreased for it to truly be viable

[hoary atlas]

The Hunter Build Be like

[hoary atlas]

Are System Corruption can be Use for Raid or Incursion?

[strong cave]

That's a major hell no

[hoary atlas]

Do you have recommendations Gear set suitable for Incursion ?

[strong cave]

Striker

Quite literally the required gearset of 3 people. 4th being future initiative healer

You could run a hotshot 1 shot build

[hoary atlas]

I did Incursion with some player but Full Build Bulwark

I'm play Defense protect Player

[strong cave]

Isn't that what a healer is for?

[hoary atlas]

Yeah

[strong cave]

I've yet to clear incursion with somebody running bulwark

[hoary atlas]

I did Full Defense Bulwark

Shame I didn't have Regulus

[strong cave]

I keep putting off trying the other gear sets besides the "meta" bc honestly how viable are they really?

[strong cave]

GC Rock discord server hosts raids daily and is entirely community driven. They can probably guarantee you a regulus in a day

[hoary atlas]

Is that fine use Liberty for Bulwark ?

[strong cave]

Just make sure to complete your projects

[hoary atlas]

Or Orbit

[strong cave]

Liberty is a good substitute

[hoary atlas]

I own One

[strong cave]

You could go mosquito pistol now that the talent actually works

[hoary atlas]

I have that

[strong cave]

My buddy has a ridgeways bulwark Regen build that's meant for legendary

[hoary atlas]

Mine Tardigrade Bulwark

[strong cave]

Could ditch tardigrade for ridgeways and play up close for the insane Regen

[hoary atlas]

Ridgeway pride ?

[strong cave]

Correct

Build bulwark as crit based

[hoary atlas]

I think im have at Inventory

I did Summit Legendary

[strong cave]

It's an interesting way to play bulwark, I might throw together his build

He runs his as PFE (protection from elites)

I'd run mine crit based

[hoary atlas]

I did Use Bulwark Build for Legendary Difficult

[strong cave]

It's not bad. Lots of different builds can clear it. Depends on how well they synergize

[hoary atlas]

Any recommendations Sniper rifle for Hotshot ?

[strong cave]

Hell my fully dedicated striker healer healed the group I played with last week pretty well. OC carried my haste tho

[hoary atlas]

Don't tell me Striker with Ridgeway

[patent fossil]

Tank builds are unfortunately almost useless in basically all content (with a very few exceptions). You just can't effectively draw aggro away from the dps players, and do too little damage to be any good in tough content.

[hoary atlas]

I can't play full dps on PC

Even im use controller on PC

[strong cave]

It's not actually. 4 piece strikers, Alps summit chest with empathic, BTSU gloves for overcharge. Good team build, even better when paired with iron lung. Skill Haste will be ass but 2m cooldown for OC anyways can keep you topped off. Chems are there too

Everything rolled yellow + repair skills except 1 damage core. You'll run tech

[patent fossil]

FI healer or foam eclipse are far more useful support builds in legendary, just healer in incursion

[strong cave]

Weird setup, I was bored, but found it fun

[strong cave]

This

[hoary atlas]

I have Two The Lexington

But talent maybe measurement

[strong cave]

Give striker healer a try 😂 so much fun healing my teammates, gaining weapon damage and lighting shit on fire

Redundant? Hell yeah. But the entertainment value alone is worth it

[hoary atlas]

Do you have recommendations Talent for Lexington it was Measurement right ?

Measured

[strong cave]

Killer, Optimist, Sadist, Flatline or Strained

Measured is ehhhhhh

[hoary atlas]

Useless ?

[strong cave]

Not bad but not the best

Half as good as optimist is I say

[patent fossil]

It's not bad now, got a decent buff this season

[hoary atlas]

It's mean One is Strained and Flatline

I have two Lexington

Well I guess use one with flatline for Heartbreaker

[patent fossil]

Yeah, flatline is top choice for heartbreaker or other pulse build

[hoary atlas]

Heartbreaker Buffed

But sadly Kingbreaker Nerfed

😭

[hoary atlas]

Last question : this is bad idea ? @patent fossil

[patent fossil]

Regulus project requires at least 3 'fresh' clears of IH to complete, you can use a spare character to do one of them but it's still 2 weeks minimum.

[shy willow]

Ninja bike is generally a bad piece

[hoary atlas]

Technically yes

[shy willow]

You wanna have one gearset 4pc and two high end maybe an exotic

[patent fossil]

Yeah it's generally a lot weaker than a pure gearset build

[shy willow]

Tryna mix and match tends to make builds subpar at everything

[hoary atlas]

I'm try make perfect The Hunters Build

For PVE

[patent fossil]

Gearset pieces only have one substat so you're losing a lot of stats as well as a backpack talent in exchange for those gearset bonuses

And backpack talents are really strong (well, some of them anyway)

[shy willow]

NPCs don't really have gear per se so anything that hits hard would probably work

[hoary atlas]

I have Memento is that usable?

[patent fossil]

Memento is good if you're not aiming for top damage and want to include survivability and extra skill power

[hoary atlas]

Oh thank god

Not nerfed yet

[patent fossil]

Best on close range builds like hunters fury of course

[hoary atlas]

So smg ?

[patent fossil]

Or shotgun yeah

See the hunters fury guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[hoary atlas]

Ok thanks

Im also gonna grind some Gear system mods

[strong cave]

Damn I thought you could use 3 for the shared resourced

I don't have the patience for dupe regulus on characters so I only did it once and never again

[patent fossil]

You only need 2 runs for the shared resource, but then you need one more fresh run to get the parts to craft the gun, and that has to be the same character that got the project originally

Building more is easier though, just transfer yours to a second character and do another fresh run on your main and you should get the parts again so you can craft a second.

[strong cave]

OH right right forgot you had to do it that way

[strong cave]

I had not a clue this worked. Might have to run up Iron horse again this weekend to get my parts 👀

[fresh fox]

measured is good now

[strong cave]

I'll tell you what, I'll give measured a try once more but on the Lexington. If you change my mind I'll let you know

[versed summit]

it's still awful to use but mathemetically it is pretty viable

[versed summit]

Kingbreaker is actually still really good. Lexington is the only thing that really outclasses it. While it can be beaten on burst by something like a P416 or M4, it's not enough to offset the huge loss in sustain dps.

[strong cave]

Can't just use a Socom MK16 or a Black Market AKM? That's what I started using for the RPM boost without too much loss of overall damage

[versed summit]

akm is the same rpm

[fresh fox]

well then you are stuck using mk16 or akm

[versed summit]

mk16 is worse sustain, and only 1% better burst and that's before adding in a perfect talent on the TKB. not worth it for 50 rpm

an M4 or P416 can be worth it for RPM though

[fresh fox]

booooooo

[shy willow]

King breaker hits like a truck but handles about as well as a mustang

[strong cave]

King is only 600 now no?

AKM 650

[fair dragon]

all guns handle like a mustang

[strong cave]

It's hard to remember anymore bc they keep changing shit

[shy willow]

But muh elmo

[fair dragon]

your elmo still shoots in a straight line

[strong cave]

Unlike my-

[fair dragon]

mortar turret

[versed summit]

don't think they even touched the RPM on these tbh

[strong cave]

Damn wow okay

Back to KB I go.sits in my stash

[versed summit]

even if akm was a higher RPM, it's handling is even worse than the mk16, and it has the exact same problem

[strong cave]

I personally never noticed the handling feeling worse. They all feel almost identical

Definitely gonna yank out kingbreaker again and see how she performs still

[modest path]

In what situations the chest/backpack striker is worthy?

[tulip charm]

Raid, leg, incursion

Or anywhere you can maintain 150+ stacks

[modest path]

okey, thanks

[bleak sequoia]

don't sleep on the first half of measured, makes the lexington into a vector, that's not a bad thing

[glossy scarab]

Mine came w measured and I left it on there for a while bc it felt great. I don't even know if measured got a buff but it seems like it

[versed summit]

yeah it was pretty significant

[uneven forge]

Is mantis + chainkiller + decoy + Aces a good build? I saw it somewhere and im thinking about doing it but idk if its still good

[vestal ibex]

It'll work just because of the chainkiller but hotshot is more optimal for sniping.

[uneven forge]

Hot shot uses chainkiller too?

[glossy scarab]

Probably wouldn't be much fun without it

[uneven forge]

Does it have an exotic piece or chaing killer plus another high end ?

[glossy scarab]

Airaldi or Habsburg Backpack w vigilance usually

[uneven forge]

Ok, so its basically the same build with a different set, thanks for the info, i really liked aces but i didnt feel that much damage

[glossy scarab]

Yup

Hotshot is way better imo. Plus you get bonus armor and no reload

[magic pilot]

Habs usually with double habs and no chainkiller so I wouldn't worry about it

Providence or airaldi

[glossy scarab]

Oh yeah. Forgot to mention habs needs two piece. Headhunter and vigilance

[uneven forge]

Should go for full headshot damage and weapon handling right?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, you can even go more weapon handling to get 100% stability and then you have no scope sway while aimed and the reload/swap speed is super dope.

[uneven forge]

Cool, sniper is really fun while playing solo, especially mantis

[vestal ibex]

Wait until you hear about the toe shooting talent...

[uneven forge]

Wait, what ? lol

Is that the one that guarantee a headshot?

[glossy scarab]

Determined. A toe shot can one tap with like 50-100 mil headshot DMG

[uneven forge]

Determined on White death probably go crazy

[glossy scarab]

Yerp

[uneven forge]

Do any of you use Aces set? I'd like a build for it, the one with mantis felt a little underwhelming

[patent fossil]

You can get there just with 2 handling rolls on the HE pieces and one stability mod on the gun, although maybe that's watch dependent.

[patent fossil]

Aces just got powercrept by hotshot, it theoretically has use in a rifle headshot build but even there I think there are better options

[uneven forge]

Damn, the set is so cool with cards and stuff

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1_jqckhkddzCH8OWOHNkpOLBBsymnVrhb6obeDjU4KDQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[vestal ibex]

Maybe with the new mod changes but I haven't really checked.

[uneven forge]

Thanks

[patent fossil]

With an sr-1 you absolutely can, I tested it yesterday. Had a spare mod slot for even more stability/accuracy/whatever too.

[modest path]

hunter fury alternative for ouroboros?

[versed summit]

well what's wrong with HF?

[glossy scarab]

It's rly hard to beat HF, what with the disorient and AOK

[modest path]

sorry

bad word placement, alternative for the gun ouroboros

i'm going to make a HF with SMG(would be the ouroboros) and the thorn with HF+centurion

but i don't have the ourob

[onyx sage]

smg-9, vector 9mm

[modest path]

thanks

[fresh fox]

not that high but yea it’s pretty high

[vestal ibex]

I was gonna say the tops you'll hit solo on a determined build repeatedly is like 32ish mil I think and that's a unicorn build with max expertise.

[fresh fox]

i would test but i don’t want to send a m700 to 27

spreadsheet time.

[vestal ibex]

I know you got the resources.

[glossy scarab]

oh yea. ur right. i was talking about with the right modifiers on

[fresh fox]

#fmodifiers

[glossy scarab]

yeah i hear ya. they're def not for everyone

[fresh fox]

they are mostly fine with headhunter builds though

clam is a bit annoying

without the use of centurions?

[glossy scarab]

yup

[fresh fox]

interesting

still not using it though,..........

highest i could get headhunter without fully minmaxing

bet it still sucks 😭

#nbbsucks

talking about your other message

[vestal ibex]

What even is this?

[fresh fox]

modifiers

white death

cull the weak and tapper

thats the message im talking about

[glossy scarab]

i see

[glossy scarab]

i reported this visual bug for the total DMG number too but its so minor they probably wont fix it any time soon.

[hexed steppe]

Bullet king? 🤔

You'll have to DM it

[subtle bluff]

what do you mean?

that isn't a bug...

[glossy scarab]

that damage should be like 130 or something though

ive put this build on many times and sometimes it shows this bigger number, sometimes it shows 130 whatever

wait i might be wrong. are 7 red cores enough to get up to 250k total damage?

[vestal ibex]

Pretty sure it shouldn't. Lex is just under 50k base damage.

No way you are getting enough to do a 5X damage increase like shown.

Unless it's some modifiers thing but idk enough about them.

[glossy scarab]

i wasnt aware that modifiers affected this. no idea if i had any on when i took this scrn grab

[subtle bluff]

The execution of how they put in Modifiers into this badly coded game isn't the greatest.
Things get weird with them.

[glossy scarab]

ahh interesting. thank you. i initially thought it was something about the legatus brand set but the modifiers make more sense i guess

[bleak sequoia]

when you have to mail your mag in to exchange it for a full one and it takes 3-5 business days

[mint axle]

bro is putting each bullet individually in the magazine

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough this is the named double barrel shotgun too.

[subtle bluff]

The numbers are mostly right with everything off. The English for talent is just messy. For instance Backfire should just read "for every new stack"

[elder glade]

🥹🥹🥹🥹😉

[abstract mauve]

is hunter-killer a good chest for bighorn regen build?

[subtle bluff]

In what sense?

Mostly no. Because there's better opitions.

[abstract mauve]

pvp

[subtle bluff]

Here's I'll answer it with a question.

1. Are you gonna use the status effect stats?
2. How does regen gonna help with intimidate?

[abstract mauve]

this is a good question that I have no idea how to answer, i just saw a youtube video where they used a hunter-killer chestpiece in the bighorn regen build and the rest of the gear had armor regen

i just want to be a meta slave but decisions are hard to make

another one i've seen is everyday carrier with haz protection on everything

[subtle bluff]

I read YouTube… 💀

[abstract mauve]

• the headshot damage

[abstract mauve]

🥹

[subtle bluff]

There’s no real meta for PvP.

[abstract mauve]

in conflict regen is definitely up there

ok so here's what I have so far for one build (from youtube)

catharsis + everyday carrier + matador + 3pc gila for the rest all with headshot damage and hazpro

i still need to farm pieces this is just the mental mood board

just better gila pieces

[subtle bluff]

Conflict rotates meta. In general PvP Div 2 there’s a counter to everything.

[abstract mauve]

this is wisdom, i need intel

come on marine

[wise swallow]

Not true

PvP absolutely has meta's

[subtle bluff]

What are you hazpro for?

[subtle bluff]

Flavor of the season but it always rotates to something else because everyone else is trying to counter someone else.

[abstract mauve]

my brain tells me it would be useful in conflict because of the iron lung and hive abusers, but then the other half of my brain tells me to replace it all with regen

[wise swallow]

can meta's be countered? ofc, every meta in every game can be countered. meta means Most Effective technique available.

[subtle bluff]

Conflict has meta but if anything it’s NBB.

There’s a build that will counter any build in PvP

[wise swallow]

in conflict build countering exists too

metas can be countered

any build in div2 can be countered by shooting them

the existance of counters != no meta

[subtle bluff]

So… Did you just say what I said to yourself?

[wise swallow]

I dont even understand what your trying to say. you said metas dont exist in PVP. which is wrong.

[onyx sage]

crossover of the century

[abstract mauve]

do i use... hazpro... do i use.... armor regen...

[hazy steeple]

Check your internet, your text is coming out all stilted.

[wise swallow]

one example of a meta was shield pistols. It encounters everything, has the fastest ttk. thats an example of a meta

[subtle bluff]

Play, learn, try again. Div 2 PvP is actually not bad other than cheaters everywhere.
IMO playstyle make the better player in PvP build. If you’re good at your build vs a build you can’t use you’ll do better.

[onyx sage]

both of you are goats

[lavish jay]

are skill builds still worth running?

[junior surge]

Sure, kinda depends on the situation and content though imo. There are tons of skill builds and tons of different uses, some great, some kinda eh.

[lavish jay]

Cookie cutters, rigger,waveform,capacitor

Assault striker

[junior surge]

Rigger is kinda meh imo, if you really wanna run drone turret, high end will do better

[lavish jay]

rgr ty

[midnight rover]

Does someone has the sniper one shot build details?

[glossy scarab]

some people use 3pc hotshot or some variation of this. it has higher damage i guess but i use 4pc hotshot for the full gear set bonus. mostly for the no reload and the bonus armor

[autumn elbow]

So in terms of best in slot (excluding lexington) what would be the best 3 in order for assault rifles to use with striker build (full striker for incusion and raid, all red) and a seperate HB build (all red with backpack and coyotes mask)

[versed summit]

they're mostly pretty evenly matched now, so you can mostly justify taking whatever you like. I'd recommend FAMAS Police M4, P416, CTAR or maybe Carbine 7 if you like it's handling enough.

The M4, P416, and Carbine 7 all can take the linked laser pointer for Heartbreaker, so those work best there.

Mostly because these are stacking gearsets though, you want a relatively fast firerate weapon.

[abstract mauve]

should I put DTTOOC on this kingbreaker or is damage to armor better?

[versed summit]

dtooc

[abstract mauve]

ok thank you

[autumn elbow]

So gonna share this here (Just in case others dont know this, if you already did know this, move along agent)

Makes posting photos of builds easier and if youre like me and JUST found out that you dont have to take a picture of both monitors and then crop it, have fun

[fair dragon]

The drone turret hybrid skill build is what most people resort to, works on any difficulty but Legendaries. Well it can work in Legendaries but idk why you need to spend more than 10 minutes in every room.

Foam CC builds are undervalued
Future Initiative builds are welcomed especially when you have 6 turrets to heal in Legendaries.

[fair dragon]

ShareX taught me that.

Except ShareX Saves the image in a clipboard so I can directly Ctrl+V here

It's a good app

[autumn elbow]

Never heard of it before (only been on pc for just under a year though so never really had to do screenshots en masse)

[fair dragon]

Free on Steam

[autumn elbow]

sweet I'll check it out, thanks!

[hexed steppe]

Can also use snipping tool

[subtle bluff]

.... Just use:
Windows + Shift + S = drag to copy then paste.

[hexed steppe]

So basically the snipping tool

[subtle bluff]

This is built into windows unless you turned it off.

For some. I don't have snippet tool due to a custom window install I use.

[hexed steppe]

Works the same. Open, select area to ss, paste

Let's you edit if needed

[autumn elbow]

awesome! thanks for the info!

[subtle bluff]

Tbh I haven't used it on a normal windows for a windows. My just let's me drag and copy and nothing else. But yes.

[vocal bluff]

This good enough stats for control room?

IH

[shy willow]

Why so much AOK

You won't be killing anything just reading out codes and interacting with stuff

Just throw on cath and dump everything into regen and blues

I don't remember if hazpro protects from the furnace but probably throw that on too if you do broken glass

[vocal bluff]

It’s all blues and the yellows are repair skill

3.5 armor regen I think

[shy willow]

Ah that'll do then

[vocal bluff]

The is the reason I have AOK i see

[onyx sage]

you have ninjabike

[shy willow]

The main thing is just make sure your callouts are good

[vocal bluff]

I will replace it

[onyx sage]

not sure what you'd replace it with tho

[shy willow]

Better to throw on a Gila bag probably

[onyx sage]

yeah but what talent tho

[shy willow]

Uhhh smth

I wonder if overclock range is enough to affect people on bravo door

[subtle bluff]

A lot of Armor, AoK and Repair Skill. What are we trying to do?

[shy willow]

Control room

[subtle bluff]

OH

[vocal bluff]

Control room

[shy willow]

Yeah normally it makes no sense lol

[onyx sage]

why i didn't explode

[subtle bluff]

But why this? Just go FI Healer I could think could do better at least that's what I've done and had no issue cooking inside of it.

[vocal bluff]

I have 1.6 mill armor 4.5% armor regen and 80% repair skill

[shy willow]

Someone else will be running fi ideally

Can't heal anyone from the control room

[subtle bluff]

Fair.

I've only done control room at speed so I can't really say too much.

[vocal bluff]

I’m trying to have builds ready so I can start doing raids

[subtle bluff]

Wouldn't sweat it too much. Most FTC IH they'll leave the FTC in easier positions.

Then you can work up to doing the other roles.

[shy willow]

Yeah no you're only gonna be on doors

DW about roles

[fresh fox]

no fi so mid

[vocal bluff]

I have 2 dps builds 1 skill build 1 tank build so far

[fresh fox]

as control room your only job is to live and give fi chest buff

and do mechanics but yea

[subtle bluff]

That's what I thought.

[fresh fox]

oc is nice but many groups dont care for it

[subtle bluff]

Just threw a Healing Drone on myself and waited around when were learning speeds for it.

I can't say too much here this is all you compton.

[shy willow]

Speeds make more sense to run FI cuz you won't be cooking for like 3 hours

My group has a separate healer and control room just stays alive and does mechanics

[subtle bluff]

If it's completed speeds yes. LOL. I've cooked in the room for awhile.

[vocal bluff]

How do y’all normally find groups for raiding?

[shy willow]

Huh doesn't he die like very shortly after glass breaks

Cuz you kill him off the chunga

[subtle bluff]

Use #lfg-raid-pc and/or use the other public discords: .gg thedivision or gcrock

[fresh fox]

no

not at all

you can get to like middle of weakpoints before control room has to lock in on staying alive

[shy willow]

I haven't done it in a while but iirc the shooters just run up Achilles then shoot the chunga and pray for a crit

[subtle bluff]

Diamondback now no more praying.

[fresh fox]

no you use shotgun

this has been common for a while now

diamond back is super speed run only

which you arent doing in a casual

[tulip charm]

Diamondback?

[shy willow]

Last I heard shotguns were a rare asf strat on xbox

I was in a TSW raid and they were talking about it like it was a myth

[fresh fox]

because they suck

[subtle bluff]

I only have like 12 clears on IH never been inside..

[fresh fox]

sorry but like thats it

idk why its so scary for them

[subtle bluff]

It be like that... The one I did with gcrock 24 raid I think I fell asleep at.

The Buddy/Lucy strat still hurts me..

[fresh fox]

yea after doing nego normal fieser is just so boring

[rich lotus]

TSW strats are to put a full ass tank player in control room

Cause apparently dropping chems in intervals is too hard

[shy willow]

We joke about them all the time in our group lol

[subtle bluff]

I gave up at that I just threw up a drone.

[shy willow]

iirc we have furnace hotswap

[fresh fox]

your problem is that you are actually doing fieser in the first place

[rich lotus]

800 IQ strat is to go Rigger with healing drone and continuously deploy -> cancel the drone to abuse the instant burst heal after deploying 🤯 😤 ✊ 👀 💯

FI buff overrated

[fresh fox]

true...

[rich lotus]

wonder if devs know about instant cancel

[subtle bluff]

I hate that some ppl won't learn how to use instant use for some skills.....

[rich lotus]

the use case is pretty niche for the avg player

[shy willow]

Speaking of rigger what was that red setup I heard of

[subtle bluff]

Ya a player in an incursion using Stick EMP slowly down to to hit a 50/50 sticky... That lived in incursion for like week straight.

[autumn elbow]

Isnt there a build that involves these? worth keeping all red and optimize or does something need to be changeD?

[shy willow]

Exo gear pieces can't be rerolled anyway except acosta knees iirc

I use bloody knuckles for the incursion but that's it

[autumn elbow]

Pretty much just smack the boss and ammo dump?

[shy willow]

Pretty much but I use a grenade instead

Can proc sledge and seeing red at the same time

[subtle bluff]

Keeeep it.

[autumn elbow]

didnt plan on deconstructing it.

[tulip charm]

Its mainly used for boss burners

So you just slot in a dps build

[fresh fox]

it’s too annoying/unrealistic to keep up in general play so that’s the reason it’s not used as widely as the other exotics

[potent carbon]

what the best weapon for pvp? bighorn or eagle bearer?

[versed summit]

Depends on the build. Technically Bighorn ig

[subtle bluff]

imo playstyle too

[potent carbon]

is this the best for bighorn?

[tulip charm]

Its good

[potent carbon]

what the meaning hsd?

[autumn elbow]

HeadShotDamage=hsd

[trim wedge]

What’s yall negotiaters builds?

Tryna farm a double red closer so I can re roll for weapon dmg is gonna be the end of me tryna see if there’s another way to run it

[solar sable]

Credits: Localdeck

[subtle bluff]

Ceska Obi chest, Coyotes mask normally then 4pc nego

[trim wedge]

Could the knee pads be replaced for better stats ?

[trim wedge]

Running nego knees and coyotes better?

[shy willow]

I personally run contractors and strega

[trim wedge]

I’ve tried Strega and messed with it I just don’t like the clip size

[sullen sun]

Is there a Regulus tank build?

[subtle bluff]

Depending on you CHC/CHD maybe.

[subtle bluff]

Probably. It is good? meh.

[trim wedge]

Took crit chance away any place I could still at 59.5

[sullen sun]

Shield will give you a dmg boost and protect you

[trim wedge]

Need pulse for the gear set

And revive hive cause I be getting caught lacking sometimes

[sullen sun]

Is pulse amplified dmg?

[onyx sage]

nego doesn't need pulse tho

[sullen sun]

Right

That’s what thought

Shield would be your friend here

[trim wedge]

Ahh my apologies I misread what the gear does, I thought you did extra dmg to pulsed enemies

I shall try the shield

[subtle bluff]

that's only when it's Overcharged

[fresh fox]

for pvp

tank reg is useless in pve though

[subtle bluff]

I forget to ask for context... 😐

[torn wigeon]

Is this build ok

[fair dragon]

yes

[strong cave]

More than okay. If you want to make it better, throw on Killer instead of Strained. Also ditch the ceska holster for a coyote mask and replace grupo chest with Ceska. Same setup but different brand

Works better for solo and group play

[torn wigeon]

I was running coyote's mask with grupo chest beforehand and felt it does lesser dmg

striker's holster

[strong cave]

Do you typically hit at longer ranges?

[torn wigeon]

yea

[strong cave]

I personally play Ceska + Coyote solo and then when in raids (almost always there's someone running coyote) I run your setup. Reason being is close range, (numbers might be wrong hard to remember every talent in the game) you'll get 25% chd bonus from coyote. 15% CHC and CHD mid-range and 25% CHC long range. Bonus applies to all members of a group

[strong cave]

Do take into account a gun's optimal range. Also, by taking a grupo piece, you have to yield I think 2 crit mods to make up for lack of crit chance. Ceska slots better as it allows you to take 2 CHD mods and 1 CHC mod to meet the 50% recommended crit chance amount

And still have about 150-175% chd

[torn wigeon]

hmm ok

[twin oar]

I dont need advice but yall have to try this build I made. So much fun…

[fair dragon]

ok

[strong cave]

I see way too many things wrong with this build

[twin oar]

go ahead

[fair dragon]

let them have their fun

it's a Gluttony build

[strong cave]

Ninjabike backpack. Gonna immediately start with that. Great backpack.... For PvP. Redundant in PvE except for very very very niche builds. Mixing multiple Gearsets is a very bad idea, for a reason alone: making a build too diversified makes it mediocre across the board.

If you're looking for a build you can sit in your scope, hide behind a shield, AND do damage, I recommend going for an armor based build

I can't imagine you're clearing content at a quick enough pace with that build

You've got it geared for rifles, which that's good thinking. But that setup just isn't it

[hazy steeple]

It's an NBB build, it's going to be "meh" by default.

[twin oar]

I mean I have maxed out stability / accuracy on my lightweight m4 and the dread edict. 260% Headshot damage on the M4 and 300% on the dread edict. Trough perfect focus I gain a damage buff and trough the sniper drone and flatline I get 15% amplified damage

And it works tbh. Great damage output. I kill elite and named enemies on heroic with a few headshots

whats so wrong with that if it works?

[hazy steeple]

If you're enjoying using it, I say go for it, but do be prepared for mocking if you try and take that in a group that wants speed.

[strong cave]

It's got good damage since it's using decent talents, but the problem here is that you are solely relying on ninjabike backpack to carry you when Memento backpack is the hardest carrying backpack in the game

[twin oar]

I mean I have multiple different builds

Ofv any one shot or AR build is way faster to clear content

[hazy steeple]

The unfortunate fact about NBB is that, by default, it's just kinda bad. It's design worked in div1, but in div2 it's just out of its element.

[strong cave]

You'd be better off taking 3p Aces and running focus chest piece and Fox's prayer kneepads

With ninjabike

[twin oar]

i will try that

[strong cave]

You could go 4 piece aces, memento backpack, and the same chest you're using

You'd get a gearset talent, armor, skill efficiency, and weapon damage. Long as you keep your cores managed, it works out

It'll buff your shield and your drone too!

[hexed steppe]

looks like you need some advice

[hexed steppe]

Skill Buckets ™️ 😎

you can, but you shouldnt

just secondary the weapon till proficient. youll need all those components for upgrades

something like 60 exo components for 1 rank 27 item

[twin oar]

I mean yeah the things mentioned above are better. Yet the build works

[strong cave]

I mean hey, idk if they got ravenous yet, may as well give them a gearset it works with

[shy willow]

Focus is also an insanely annoying talent to keep up

[hexed steppe]

im just being a little jerky, dont mind me 😅

[strong cave]

I'll tell you what, since I'm damn near shd 14k and can level a mule in 30m, I'll slap your build together out of pure boredom and see how it feels. I've exhausted the content of this game worse than Rockstar with GTA V

[twin oar]

true but what other talent would be goot to use if I want a rifle / dread edict build

In terms of damage?

[shy willow]

Glass cannon

[strong cave]

4 piece 1 shot hotshot with dread is NASTY

[twin oar]

meh… to squishy idk. The only place I used glass cannon was the raids

[strong cave]

Still meta but fun

[strong cave]

As long as you don't get shot by a nade or a marksman, you'll be fine

[hexed steppe]

glass or spotter. your primary it the ss has flatline, but no wat to proc i think

[twin oar]

The drone

is the was i proc it

way*

[strong cave]

Run countdown on Challenging. Matchmaking of course. Purchase named Item caches at the end of every run

[hexed steppe]

fair

[strong cave]

Alternatively, run an all blue crit based striker build with memento backpack. Farm landmarks in any SMG targeted dark zone

It can also drop in any DZ as well, non targeted

OH! Conflict caches will drop the gun too

That's also pvp tho

Yes. Even matador and emperor's guard

I think you can get them from DZ proficiency caches and legacy caches as well

System Corruption buff when 💔💔

😭😭😭

[hexed steppe]

cd vendor also occasionally sells dz exclusives

and clan vendor sometimes yaahl

[strong cave]

^^ that too . Vendors reset every tuesday. Textiles vendor every Wednesday but Cassie and Danny usually sell shit good loot

[hexed steppe]

if sticking with this setup, consider swapping breaking point gloves for eagles grasp. ninja will unlock the rifle damage,

[shy willow]

You'll want something else then tbh

Cham and dark winter have like no range

[twin oar]

I made a second build with ninja bike, the same chest piece, foxa and 3 pc aces

Did loose some stability and weapon damage but with the aces talent I do 6 mill with the dread edict

If yall have some more solo pve builds im all ears

[strong cave]

Overall feel better or worse?

[twin oar]

feels abit better

In terms of damage

might change to glass cannon bc focus is a bit annoying to keep up

[strong cave]

🔥👍 ye just tinker with it, it's all up to how you like to play

I use perfect headhunter

Damage pairs perfect with aces

[hexed steppe]

no doubt

[twin oar]

I do have that chest but i dont think its great if my main weapon is a rifle and the secondary dread edict

If I was using nemesis or model 700 with determined its different

[strong cave]

Tried bolt action MMRs on aces. It's terrible. Stick to spammy MMRs or rifles

[twin oar]

The lightweight m4 is a spammy mmr

I mean rifle*

[torn wigeon]

i've gotten 4 stregas tdy from countdown and summit

whr's st elmo

[obtuse shoal]

Does wicked activate when you get pulsed? Is oroboros pulsing enemies when you get pulsed?

[hoary sail]

no becuse it's not a statut effect

[twin oar]

If you guys have more PVE builds (tank builds, PFE builds, one shot builds, AR / SMG build lmk.) I have to many builds for raids that I dont use since I stopped raiding/ speedrunning

[magic pilot]

For one shot get harvest, and run contractors not punch drunk

[bright raptor]

run both.jpg

[magic pilot]

No...

You want dodge

[bright raptor]

I have Dodge, Punch Drunk and Contractors on the same all high end build

granted it's amazingly bipolar depending on whether I can chain shots or not

[warm knot]

Any advice for a pve bighorn build? (Ik, ik its not the best for pve) I don't wanna run striker, so I was hoping for some high end build. I was thinking about
3x providence (the gift)
Ceska
Grupo
Coyotes

And obliterate for the chest. Would this work for legendary or it would just become a dead weight ?

[magic pilot]

That's a different build

[bright raptor]

it would work same as any all red all crit build

[warm knot]

Aight thx. I'll go look for the chc/hs dmg pieces then.

[shadow sentinel]

best setup for chatterbox with hunters fury?

[glossy scarab]

i usually use sokolov for the chest and backpack (or 1 sokolov and 1 grupo) I like bloosucker or adrenaline rush on the bag and intimidate on the chest. but you could just as well go with unstoppable force on the backpack and obliterate on the chest

[shadow sentinel]

Hmmm i was gonna use memento for backpack

[glossy scarab]

oh yea thats a great choice too

definitely helps for survivability even though HF is already pretty good with that. also the long and short term dmg from trophies is really strong

[fresh fox]

habsburg/prov 🔛🔝

[fresh fox]

striker can’t use both 😟😟😟😟

[magic pilot]

No contractors?

[fresh fox]

it’s slightly less

so if you want purely one shot damage use hsd brand

if want a bit of one shot and not one shot damage use contractors

[bleak sequoia]

looking at the high end red build (https://lite.evernote.com/note/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9) it recommends Fox's Prayers knees, does this mean it's limited to Rifles or is it fine to run ARs on it or should I use a different knees with AR. Basically is 8% DTOOC better than two CHD/CHC attributes

[fresh fox]

fine to run either

the 8% dttoc is better than the 6% chc you would gain from some other brand because on high end you have so much chc attributes/brand bonuses already

[bright raptor]

^the Fox's bonus is strong enough even without using rifles for the brand bonus

also as crit chance is capped at 60% anyway unless you're using the Diamondback

[fresh fox]

not the same but yea tell em

[bleak sequoia]

a Grupo is +25% CHD, vs Foxs is 10% Rifle and 8% Dttooc

(assuming it's the only grupo on the loadout)

[bright raptor]

again, the +25% CHD and all the other CHD attributes can only trigger 60% of the time at most

As long as the target is not in cover or freshly knocked out of cover, the 8% is always there regardless of whether you crit

[willow void]

Using this setup for countdown, wanted to lean into bleed with some support but wondering if just the pure weapon damage would be better, had no idea what to slot in for mods, so went with Healing received, any adjustments or critiques would be greatly appreciated.

[bright raptor]

if you use the Gunner disorient pulse or Stinger hive to apply the opening status effect, skill haste to provide a little cooldown reduction on them might work

[fresh fox]

well it wouldn’t be

unless like 3pc prov coyotes contractors foxes

but contractors/coyotes can be changed for grupo

foxes is good because it’s applicable to literally everything

[urban latch]

Leaning into status effects for bleed really doesn't help. Think of ongoing as a dps buff build, not a status build.

Go crit instead

[willow void]

Seems that's the move, the bleed never seem to have lasted long enough to do anything, Would replacing the backpack with Wicked in that case, and moving the mask over to the set piece be better overall then I assume. (Seems someone's always running coyotes)

[willow void]

I usually open with riot foam, but i forgot about the stinger hive.

[urban latch]

Wicked is definitely good on it, you can also go vigilance or memento as well. The OD backpack is pretty useless though

Riot foam is one of the best skills in the game, so I'd recommend just keep using that. You only really need to status for the first kill, after that you should be able to chain it with bleed ammo

[supple cradle]

Can you get Foundry chest and backpack from general loot drops? I have run the raids before, but I am missing those 2 pieces.

[urban latch]

yes you can

[magic pilot]

Grupo is 13% more chd not 25

Grupo is 13% chd, 12% chd 6% chc, fox is 8% Dtooc 12% chd

You are basically trading 13% chd and 6% chc for 8% Dtooc

And if you don't need the chc (already at cap) that means Fox is the best choice

[fresh crypt]

anyone have any strong pve builds for group play. I have a striker obliterate build at the moment. I dont know if this update changed anything but if rifle builds are amazing this update i would love a good rifle build

[raw comet]

@fresh crypt I'm using 4 piece negotiators with fenris obliterate chest and groupo gloves crits everywhere using Eagle bearer classic m1a and orbit as weapons every thing expertised to level 27 incredibly strong

[fresh crypt]

nice thank you ill try it out

is that crits or headshot?

[raw comet]

@fresh crypt crits but I could spec in to headshots with mods

[fresh crypt]

cool thanks man

[raw comet]

@fresh crypt

Otherwise I have this one the mosquito and the Lexington with killer are an awesome combo I use this builds for countdown

[willow void]

Them changes are great lol, using The Grudge to get get vindictive if possible, hitting towards 1.1mil on crits, much better than building bleed lmao

[onyx sage]

even better when you use sadist