td2-build-advice

[tulip charm]

Well fire is pretty much bleed but better so

🗿

[rich lotus]

Poison best status effect

[hexed steppe]

[fresh fox]

the general idea is to go full repair skills imo

better heals = happier team

another possibility is to build until your healing hive heals 380k~

[quartz ermine]

try this build
with Safeguard and Reformation is overkill

[fresh fox]

safeguard boooooo

[subtle bluff]

Too much healing.
FI Healer job isn't just healing.

[shy willow]

Oppo>

[rich lotus]

Guys why do we need skill haste on our healer builds

If you are running out of chem launchers it’s because you are wasting them. Not saying that 7-8 chem launchers is self-sustainable in every scenario, but you have BTSU OC so….

Also chem launchers healing over time is arguably more important than the initial burst heal. If you heal a 6 red player that just lost their one shot protection, they will die if the healing pool is weak

That’s probably why people run out of charges lmao, they just put down another charge if the incoming healing isn’t enough

[serene tusk]

if i make burn build and bleed does the skill dammege do anything

dammage

[light grove]

Skill damage will increase the damage of the dot / initial hits on skills if they have them. Unlike status effect, will not increase duration.

[tulip charm]

🤔

[tulip charm]

No

You want status effect

[subtle bluff]

Unless there skill based bleed and fire but even then.

Another OD build using iron lung and losing out to another 30% amp dmg?

[tulip charm]

OD using trauma

xd

[subtle bluff]

I've seen it before unfortunately...

[primal vessel]

better now i guess

and there is no cooldown i can spam skills

[tulip charm]

Yep thats good

Kinda trolling not running demo

[primal vessel]

yea ill get that

its not the godroll vest tho

[subtle bluff]

Also find a mop and put in-sync in that.

[primal vessel]

skill haste and status effects

idk tf status effect does

[primal vessel]

wym mop

[subtle bluff]

The Mop. The named Six12 shotgun.

AoK

[tulip charm]

status on hw?

Nah dont

[wary forge]

Guys any1 have a good pistol build? To one shot enemies in heroic? With most blues possible in build..

And why i see a lot of ppl using hunter fury with pistol?

[primal vessel]

like %8 status effects

attribute

[tulip charm]

Skill damage and skill haste

[primal vessel]

yea i cant spend a week for godroll vest

[tulip charm]

I mean its a china vest

but its fine then

[primal vessel]

its either glass cannon red and blu attributes
or 1 random talent and 1 good attribute

[tulip charm]

People run hunters because its that good

CC, AoK/HoK, Amp

You can use this one as an example

[median zinc]

I usually use HF , Memento , Chainkiller. with a bulwark and defender drone . but there might be other much more efficient builds

[modest path]

From the builds in the spreadsheet, what are some goods for legendary? other them striker (obviuslly)

[tough needle]

Which exotic weapon is that?

[bright raptor]

Capacitor

[tough needle]

Ah

[bright raptor]

Negotiator's is very strong but also sends you right to the top of the AI shitlist

also Headhunter's Fury even with "just" the pummel M870 instead of Regulus

[modest path]

sorry, what would mean AI shitlist lmao

[broken edge]

Makes them focus fire on you

[modest path]

is this a mechanic?

is there a build that has a Strong shield (dont break that easy) and has a good reliable dps?

[bright raptor]

sort of - the AI will focus on the human player with the highest theoretical damage output

Negotiator's builds tend to be very high on that stat because of the ability to spread damage across three targets at once

[broken edge]

Ai aggro is mostly based on damage you are dealing, there hasnt been really in depth mechanics about controlling aggro

[modest path]

oh okey

[modest path]

any build with this kind of output?

[lime crown]

I am JUST trying to get the hang of Tinkering and have a question. I put Skill Damage on here, but I also wanted to put on Skill Haste x2, but as you can see it is grayed out. Can I not change all the slots? I tried looking at videos and some things online, but I couldn't find this specific question.

[patent fossil]

you can only recalibrate one slot on an item, although you can change that one slot as many times as you like

[lime crown]

So I need to find a piece that has 2/3 Attributes? Dang. That is so specific.

[patent fossil]

welcome to the looter-shooter

[lime crown]

This is the first Looter I have ever wanted to spend time on and just wanted to make sure I was doing it correctly.

[warm knot]

Most skill builds are easy to assemble because you don't need to optimize the skill tier, don't worry. You only need to get either skill haste or skill dmg.

[patent fossil]

for fastest results farm Countdown (with Empress as your target loot), you'll get plenty of drops, should find the piece you need very quickly

just don't bring a turret/drone type skill build into the mode

[lime crown]

LOL. That is my exact build.

[patent fossil]

hunters will hack your skills and use them to kill your team, better have a basic red build to use

[warm knot]

Not all skills though.

[lime crown]

Good to know. I didn't know that. I have so much to learn.

[warm knot]

Chems and traps cant be hacked iirc

[patent fossil]

yeah but you'll still get emped and not be able to use them for large parts of the hunter fights (unless you're familiar with all this and have built yourself a disrupt-immune foam build specifically for countdown)

[warm knot]

Yeah, I still need to make one of those. Also the emp pulse spam build too

[lime crown]

Thanks for the advice. Am I able to set my target loot in Countdown?

[calm shore]

is there a build that can run most if not all PvE content solo and in a group?

[patent fossil]

Yes, from the dc map or from the map menu once you're in the mode. It will copy your summit target loot setting.
Matchmake on challenging difficulty for best results

[patent fossil]

full red DPS builds (striker is the most popular and versatile, ongoing directive and negotiators dilemma are also good options) are the way to go

[calm shore]

Thanks a lot

[patent fossil]

headhunter snipers can also cope extremely well with most content in the game, although there's a few areas they fall down

[calm shore]

what about ouroboros smg?

[patent fossil]

close range builds are generally a bit less popular in group content as you have more enemies to deal with, you'll be getting surrounded more easily and also blocking your teammates shots

[calm shore]

that makes sense thanks for explaining

[warm knot]

Hunters Fury memento setup is also good. I run both shotguns and smgs crit variations. Have to play extra aggressive if you're using that in a group, and not suitable for legendary strongholds.

[calm shore]

thank you very much

[onyx sage]

ouro is used also in striker btw it's not a "build" on its own

[calm shore]

thanks

[modest path]

between OD and ND, the best for DPS partically is negotiators because the DMG between targets, but in surviviability , which one is best and still getting good dps?

[onyx sage]

the same between both

they don't give you any survivability bonus

[patent fossil]

they're basically the same in terms of survivability - going full red means you need to use positioning and target prioritisation to keep yourself alive, and killing things very quickly is your main form of defense

[onyx sage]

you are never forced to take damage in this game, keep this in mind

[modest path]

saying "never forced" is crazy

[primal vessel]

good or should i change the shield

[onyx sage]

it's true

it's all about skill and timing

[primal vessel]

so i can put some damage

[patent fossil]

the shield isn't the thing preventing you from doing damage there, really

cosplaying a wall just isn't much use in this game

[calm shore]

are LMGs good? like pestilence

[onyx sage]

it's good

[calm shore]

thanks a lot

[onyx sage]

the issue is suppression

[primal vessel]

riot police simulator

if you love your job, you are not going to work everyday

[modest path]

@onyx sage@patent fossiland if i want a build that has good dps and good surviv?

[onyx sage]

heartbreaker

[patent fossil]

if solo, hunters fury memento is also a good option, or striker+eagle bearer if you have it

[modest path]

okey, thanks

[patent fossil]

but generally in the long run it's better (arguable term, I know) to train your gameplay skills until you can survive while full dps

[modest path]

i really trying everything to see what fits me the best, i like being a balance in DPS/Surv

[modest path]

the "rewards" from the full dps to a balanced builds are too diference?

[patent fossil]

I'm running striker with PGC and vigilance at the moment and it's a harsh but effective teacher

rewards basically being clearing content faster and more consistently, so faster progression as a whole

plus it feels nice to be able to carry others through tough content

[modest path]

i'm not a "carry" person myself

[calm shore]

Guns: Any Assault Rifle; Famas 2010, Police M4, Carbine 7, etc.
Secondary Attributes: Crit Chance and Damage
Backpack talent: Striker's (Mandatory, not optional)
Chest Talent: Spotter, Obliterate, Proof, Unbreakable.
Skills: Reviver Hive & Foam or any you like
Gear Mods: Crit Chance & Damage
Gun Mods: Crit Chance (preferred) & Crit Damage (when you don't have crit chance mods)
Notes: DEMO specialization! Aim to have 50% Crit Chance and 150%+ Crit Damage. You can exchange the mask for the Coyote's mask and run striker knee pads instead.

[modest path]

what is PGC?

[calm shore]

Is this good?

[patent fossil]

yes, although the current season nerfed the striker backpack so it's not quite the top option any more, but it's not far behind. Not sure why the demo spec though, gunner is usually preferred for the armor on kill and ammo regen

[patent fossil]

perfect glass cannon

[modest path]

can you print your build and show?

[patent fossil]

I'm not ingame tonight but it's just 4pc striker with The Sacrifice and The Gift, all crit attributes

[calm shore]

momento or ninja? Should I change the weapons for St. Elmos or Strega?

[modest path]

backpack glove, kneepad and holster? striker

[patent fossil]

High end (ceska or grupo if not running 2pc providence) with vigilance or unstoppable force if you want higher damage. Strega and St Elmo work for weapons, but it's really up to you what you prefer to run.

[patent fossil]

The Gift is a named backpack, providence with perfect vigilance. It's not essential, regular ceska or providence with vigilance or unstoppable force will be nearly as good

[calm shore]

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.

[modest path]

@patent fossilyou run lexington?

[restive dome]

It's a IH build, where demo is far preferred over gunner

[obtuse shoal]

what st elmo pvp build do u recommend?

[patent fossil]

on my OD build yes, with sadist. It's a good option for striker too with a suitable talent.

[bleak sequoia]

in the range with the invulnerable enemy my Lexington is showing DPS about 20% higher than St Elmos, and the elmo isn't a terrible roll. CHC not capped on either weapon. Is the Lexington just that much better or are the range numbers inaccurate?

at max stacks and max obliterate Elmo is about 15M and Lexington is close to 20M

this is on pure sustained DPS where I would expect the 70 round mag to benefit Elmo but apparently no

[restive dome]

The lexinton's base damage is higher and it has a damage talent, the elmo has an utility talent

[bleak sequoia]

yeah I'm running Ranger with target set to I think 40m

that's 20% right there

plus the base damage, no contest. Of course the zappy is nice, but still

[modest path]

and on striker? you run what?

[bleak sequoia]

you know when I rejoined the game because they were promising that Lexington giveaway I was expecting a cute decorative weapon not literally the best AR but I'm not complaining 😆

[patent fossil]

Depends on my mood. Lexington with an appropriate damage talent (like strained or optimist) is top DPS, strega is fun if you're dealing with multiple enemies that aren't too spread out, st elmos is extra useful during hollywood since the shock breaks enemy shields, and is also good for things like rogue fights when stunlocking an enemy is really handy

[restive dome]

It’s arguable one of the strangest moves ever. Two updates with nothing but balancing changes only to throw it all out of the window with an ar like that.

[subtle bluff]

The range is only an ok reference of DPS. Due do how it's made.
Finding a DPS of your build is easy using math or this spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FaDDfFIqOgdTfceG2ByFvmgStZ6K7whC-7LdND6WXL0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[fresh fox]

(it’s far behind)

compared to the vigi pgc version

[bright raptor]

those balance changes only created new best in slot/class weapons too, even as some stuff actually did receive good balance adjustments

[restive dome]

Yet the Lexington outclasses all other ar’s significantly.

[fresh fox]

unfortunately

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[magic pilot]

pvp guide

[obtuse shoal]

Either I'm blind or there is nothing about st elmo pvp build in this file

[magic pilot]

you see the AR builds? put st elmo on

[obtuse shoal]

so its regular ar build thank you

[magic pilot]

st elmo isnt very good in pvp anymore thats why its not in the pics

but yes regular AR build

[modest path]

does Ongoing directive proc only when i kill a enemy? like literally i have to kill the enemy to it to proc , or don't matter who finish the enemy?

[fresh fox]

doesn’t matter who kills

as long as it’s marked

[modest path]

thx

is possible to 100% resist to emp

?

[fresh fox]

yea

[rich lotus]

🤯

[fresh fox]

crazy right

[modest path]

how?

[junior surge]

Hazard protection or disrupt resistance

The latter being included in the former

[modest path]

soo hazard is better?

[mint axle]

Hazard protection applies to all effects

[modest path]

oh okey, thanks

is ongoing directive the only DPS team buffer?

[junior surge]

Hazard protection gives resistance to all status effects, so yea. However disrupt resistance can also be a mod, there are no hazrpo mods.

[subtle bluff]

To keep it simple: you need a mark enemy to die to get Hollow Point rounds.
To mark an enemy that enemy needs to have a status effect and for you to hit him.

[subtle bluff]

No.

[mint axle]

Coyote and future initiative also do it.

[modest path]

oh okey

[junior surge]

No, there are tons of ways to buff damage. Future Initiative, True Patriot (although it's kinda meh), Opportunistic, Overwatch, overcharged Scanner pulses, Scorpio, Mosquito, Sledgehammer to name a few.

[modest path]

thanks!

[junior surge]

There are also the tactical links from each specialization. Demo gives 5% dttooc, useful for general purpose; Survivalist gives 10% damage against status affected targets, great on eclipse builds; Firewall gives 10% damage amp against targets close to you, useful for tank or close range builds like Hunter's Fury.

[mint axle]

What about the sharpshooter one that gives dmg to targets farther than your teammates or something like that.

[junior surge]

Also works, but it's not as impactful imo.

There's a ton more ways to buf team damage, but they might be a bit more situational

[quick phoenix]

Hey guys I gotta question I gotten back into division 2 and I’m using the striker build but I just get melted way to quick I wanna do damage while also somewhat tanky any advice?

[fresh fox]

no

future intiative (really good) and true patriot (kinda sucks) also buffs your team

[subtle bluff]

The demo DTTooC is only for your group.

[junior surge]

Yea, the question was about team buffs

Same for the other tactical links, they apply to the group

[subtle bluff]

Just making sure it noted.

[junior surge]

It's also worth mentioning that for 8 man content, firewall applies to everyone (except yourself), while demo and survivalist are subgroup specific.

[dreamy valve]

So I’m assuming you would use strained over optimist if you have more defensive layers for your build since you can take more hits while sustaining damage output and not have to take cover too often since you would typically use a shield anyway?

[rich lotus]

Use overflowing 🙊

those who know..

[junior surge]

It's usually the other way around. Optimist gives weapon damage, so it's more valuable on builds with fewer red cores. Strained is better when you have lots of weapon damage already

[dreamy valve]

Hmm maybe the rpm of the Lexington can make up for being exposed while you empty its mag

[magic pilot]

Oxi shit

[patent fossil]

Personally I go with optimist since I'm usually playing solo and most enemies die too fast (or get into cover) for me to maintain sustained fire over a whole mag. Optimist doesn't care if you pause.

Haven't really mathed it out though, things die so fast (especially with season modifiers) that it's not that big a difference either way

[subtle bluff]

Measured is also another one. That works.
When I'm running regular mission w/ Strikers I'll use lex with ranger and an ouro or any smg I feel like at the time.

[modest path]

what is the pestilence third atribute best?

[magic pilot]

Chc

[modest path]

really?

it can roll chc on lmg tthird slot?

[strong cave]

Yes

CHC so you don't have to double dip for crit chance mods. yields you more damage

[modest path]

oooh okey, thx

[strong cave]

You can run damage to armor, it's not bad, CHC just slots in better on it

Pesti needs a crit mod and ravenous crit mods need a buff!

[modest path]

is there somewhere here a pesti build for the recent update?

[subtle bluff]

Idk if it's in the 📌 Pinned Messages

[modest path]

none in the pin

[subtle bluff]

Search it here. It's one of the few builds I don't have. I just know it's has much LMG weapon dmg as you can get.
Otherwise you can still use pesti in a normal striker build due ROF buff.

[inner forge]

Alrighty y'all, I'm back once again with the stupid, stupid questions. Hypothetically, lets say I want to create a new character, but I wanna do Hardcore despite being a floor tank most of the time. Any recommendations besides just going Firewall and leveling with Shield Drone and Shield?

[distant ferry]

Using the Gunner specialization provides us with 10% armor on kill. The Palisade Backpack with the Bloodsucker talent will grant us bonus armor per enemy kill, and the one-piece Palisade set bonus also grants us 10% armor on kill. Then, equipping the 5.11 Deathgrips gloves, a named item with 10% armor on kill. I think, the bonus armor from blood sucker and 30% armor on kill should provide sufficient survivability.

[subtle bluff]

PFE mods. You don't need that much AoK 10 if you're kill fast enough.

[onyx sage]

armor on kill without the important part

[rich lotus]

The shield drone is useless. You want a Revive Hive. I would say to lose the shield too but that’s personal pref

Cause the disorient from shield break means you can’t combat roll or enter cover for a few seconds and that can get you killed. Just gotta play smart ig

[inner forge]

Ah, the thing I struggle with most, got it. lol Also, what is this about the Rifle no longer needing to be click per shot? I can just hold down the mouse button and it fires "on reload"?

[onyx sage]

it's no longer semi-auto

[rich lotus]

It’s just full auto yeah

[onyx sage]

you don't have to spam mouse clicks anymore

[inner forge]

Mmm.... I might give Rifles a try then... I didn't use them because spam clicking made me hate them.

[rich lotus]

Also for hardcore you should also consider your health stat 🙂 something I’ve learned over the years

[inner forge]

My general blue stat priority is Health/Armor/EliteProtection.

[subtle bluff]

Stap.... Ugh...

[tulip charm]

Health xd

[fresh fox]

health 😨

[subtle bluff]

Ppl.....

[rich lotus]

It's literally for hardcore

have you had a hardcore character before Mr Chow?

[whole agate]

Is there any tips that I can get as far as armor guns or anything? I reached level 40 and am now shd 23 I'm trying to understand if faster bpm is better then damage in different ways or what would be the best direction/ things I should focus of for the game

Not to seem like a dumbass. This game is different from all the other shooting games from my understanding and it seems like I should focus of different shit I just don't know the exact angle I should go for

[solar sable]

First, get a DPS build, Striker's is basically what will let you run everything while you're farming for other stuff or builds.

Second, if you have PS plus, hop on Challenging Countdown MM (matchmake) and select your Targeted Loot, this TL is also shared with The Summit which doesn't require ps plus/multiplayer access.

Get familiar with your Library, as you work on builds look at the talents, if you want you can extract them. Same with attributes, extract only if they're maxed. These extracted attributes can be used infinitely, so don't worry about losing the max rolls.

Get to know how stuff works, where and when to use them.

[magic pilot]

I'd go for something like this, maybe spotter or obliterate chest talent to start though

[solar sable]

No one's a dumbass (there are exceptions tho lol). We all started with nothing nor what to go for.
Don't be afraid to ask.

[wary forge]

For a headhunter fury build.. is better chainkiller or a DH chest with the normal headhunter version?

Im really enjoying with chainkiller.. worth try farm for the dh? The damage will be greater?

[junior surge]

Yea, first shot and top end damage will be higher. Chainkiller is only better for second shot damage

The only difference between normal and perfect HH is that it stacks slightly faster, with the second dealing 150% instead 125%. But for most purposes first shot damage and top end damage are more relevant imo.

You can also run D&H vigi bp though if you're not running Memento or something like that

[subtle bluff]

If anything run the DH named mask.

[junior surge]

For Headhunter's fury?

[wary forge]

Yeah im running with memento for open world

[junior surge]

For HE HH yea, but for HH HF punch drunk ain't great cuz you'd have to run HF bp

[wary forge]

Ok, so will do a few countdown’s tomorrow to try get a dh chest

This build is extremelly fun! Even in hyenas areas (a lot of helmets)

[subtle bluff]

Oh. Oops I didn't read it was HF. My standard HHF is "Chain Killer" and DCH. Mainly because I enjoy using shotguns.

[tulip charm]

@onyx sage

[onyx sage]

wut

[tulip charm]

…

I forgot what I was gonna say

[onyx sage]

i'm older

[gentle lichen]

i'm odder

[zenith rose]

So, I'm trying to get back into the game. I have a few builds in my loadouts. Mainly Striker and HF with Memento. Using Crusader's Shield and Artificier. While I have little to no problems getting through challenging difficulty, heroic is a struggle. My SHD is 307 now. Is it really that much of a difference when SHD is like 1000+?

[subtle bluff]

Imo not too much.

[junior surge]

Nah, you'll deal a bit more damage, but the main difference is experience and builds

[left relic]

In my opinion run hotshot with a momento bag and a vest with headhunter and for the marksmen rifle I personally prefer the white death an assault drone to get aggro off of you and a reviver hive for an extra life most of the gear should have stuff relating to headshot dmg and crit hit/dmg I don’t remember the specifics as I haven’t been on in awhile but the build I put here has gotten me through tidal basin on heroic

[zenith rose]

so right now, i'm running this

it's HF variation

[tulip charm]

Honestly not sure how you’re having issues in heroic with that build

Looks solid

Show stat page

And find a better smg

[zenith rose]

sure thing:

I was running Lady Death, but it's mag is sooo small. Gonna run Countdown to get something better

[tulip charm]

Imo don’t bother with lady

[gentle lichen]

Use ceska to boost chc of both

[tulip charm]

Yeah ceska is kinda needed if your running memento

[zenith rose]

okay, gonna look for that as well

I have a mask, but will look for chest for the talent

as for the smg, which one to look for? MP5, Banshee or Vector?

[tulip charm]

Vector and smg 9 are good

Uh I don’t remember the other options

Dark Winter is really good for solo but its a dz exclusive weapon and found it named caches

[zenith rose]

Yeah, tbh I haven't been to DZ on PC account ^^

[bright raptor]

DW is overhyped due to being the DZ forbidden fruit

Banshee and MP5 variants are all pretty strong

[fresh fox]

DW is very good now

banshee fell from grace 😭😭

[rich lotus]

pp bizon on top

[gentle lichen]

I knew i missed something when i was thinking about div weapons

Why isn't it in game come on

Even though it'd suffer a mod cripple

[hazy steeple]

Isn't that just the pp-19?

[broken edge]

Yeap

[gentle lichen]

Oh shit was i thinking of another weapon

[modest path]

If i want to get a build that as reliable DPS and surv, just shove PTE ? what if i want something literal in between OK DPS and good armor?

[mint axle]

Hunters fury with memento

[modest path]

thanks anna

[primal vessel]

rate my dz build

[tulip charm]

I mean you're a wall ig

[primal vessel]

what i can get for pvp weapon

[tulip charm]

Pesti

[mint axle]

• Get claws out and lady death
• punch your enemies, opening the shield and closing it after the punch.
• refuse to elaborate further and have fun

[tulip charm]

or that

Im not a pvp guy 🙂

[primal vessel]

well shields is not very useful againist players tbh

ok i get ur idea

whats a good annoying skill

i got trap but is there anything better?

[junior surge]

Annoying to the enemies or your teammates?

[primal vessel]

why would i wanna annoy my teammates

ill go rogue
so ill annoy other people in dz

[left relic]

Anything relating to fire makes you unable to aim for a bit

[primal vessel]

burn sticky bomb i got it

[junior surge]

Idk, some people really like that. When sacrum was bugged and could set teammates on fire, people made whole builds specifically for it, just to teamkill. Or people who shoot gas tanks in countdown on purpose to kill you.

But in seriousness, eclipse with foam/fire is king of cc

[fresh fox]

no damage

so umm not great

[left relic]

Senator Armstrong basically

[primal vessel]

i just need to dodge and shoot when they reload

which i got a eb heartbreaker user

[autumn elbow]

Best CC build for Legendary content, Eclipse protocol or Ongoing Directive?

[tulip charm]

Eclipse

[autumn elbow]

Cheers

[autumn elbow]

is that particular gear set blue in color for any reason?

[magic pilot]

colorblind mode

[autumn elbow]

ahh okay gotcha, all focused to skill haste and damage besides the 1 minor attribute for hazpro im guessing?

[junior surge]

Status effects first, skill haste second

Hazpro isn't necessary unless you want a 100% disrupt resist build, but then you'll need much more than one attribute.

[jolly island]

Looking to build a decent dark zone build

[magic pilot]

I just don't have a good courier

Think mine has armor regen and status

For legendary I usually run BTSU and heal hive, and swap to emp sticky in areas I know have a few warhounds @autumn elbow

[autumn elbow]

EMP sticky?

[magic pilot]

Yep

It's the one in the pic I sent

[fresh fox]

jupiter manhunt at roosevelt island

[autumn elbow]

Ohhh okay thanks!

[subtle bluff]

It's generally sticky. This can be changed depending on the area. I will use EMP when there's more than 2 dogs/tanks if not I'll switch to Shock Traps, or w/e suits the moment. On lower SHD/experience players I've thrown on BTSU and a hive to OC and w/e is needed to fill.

[modest path]

i found this build that has 1.4M armor and OD, and i really liked it soo, i'm trying to get it but i have some basic questions between, why some use the Coyotes and some use this exotic holster(forgot the name)

in a maxed out build, i see the holster as a better option, yes, but it is really best? or is a question about preference at the end?

he gets 16% CHC and use the passive/active modifiers to achieve the higher CHC, its really worthy or just play style based on preference?

[fresh fox]

yea its best on paper

but like its annoying to use sometimes

[modest path]

can you explain why? pls

[fresh fox]

20% rof is a lot or something

[modest path]

oh okey

wait, the hollow point ammo does bleed status to target

it reprocs the OD mark?

[fresh fox]

yes

and it reprocs

[modest path]

damnnn

[hexed steppe]

if its team based just go coyote. i personally would use a damage talent on the bag like vig/unstoppable force, or opportunistic with scorpio as a team support.

low chc + retruibution is a strategy ive also used a bit this season, but i wouldnt drop too low. running at 45% means you only need 30 mid range hits to max out chc, then its 140 shots till you get back below max chc again. i would just weigh how far you want to drop, and just know there is gonna be xx amount of time running low. being at 16% chc would really kill your dps overall. i think 35-40 is the lowest i would let it get

[modest path]

Oh Okey , Thanks for the advice man

[magic pilot]

I think the palisade and bloodsucker is overkill if you are going 1.4m armor and gunner

Or could keep palisade but with wicked and run firewall

[warm skiff]

Hey Agent's I wanted to ask everyone what's the best build for solo

[autumn elbow]

@subtle bluff appreciate that info, i went out and gathered the pieces and made 2 builds (1 with btsu and hive, and then normal, also the courier rng for crafting sucks lol) gonna get my guys together and teat it on legendary tidal tomorrow probably, appreciate the help with this!

[subtle bluff]

You don't need the prefect version. It's a nice to have.
Between cc and healer support there is a good match for a team. Some guys are good with cc some are needing FI healer.

[trim wedge]

So guys, what’s all yalls preferred armour per build?

[subtle bluff]

We don't. Blue doesn't doesn't kill fast.

[trim wedge]

My ongoing and HF all red

But striker has 2 blues

[subtle bluff]

Also "per"?

[hazy steeple]

Armour in div2 is best thought of as a kind of "buff" for Shields.
Without a shield, even on 6 blues, you are still very papery.

[trim wedge]

Per the “hot” builds rn that are easy to throw together for new and returning players

[hazy steeple]

If you want a definition of "per" itself, it pretty much means "for each/through", stuff like that.

[trim wedge]

Glad to know, or just use context clues

Know what that means?

[hazy steeple]

Like most grammar things, it's definition is vague and latin-y.

[onyx sage]

no i'm really dumb, i only function on correct grammar

[subtle bluff]

I'm lost.

[trim wedge]

You responded to my incorrect grammar 👹

[onyx sage]

hi lost.

[onyx sage]

per someone i know, "this is not the flex you think it is"

[trim wedge]

Per me big flex

Also you forgot a period

Grammar police

[hazy steeple]

You shouldn't stab yourself with words.

[hazy steeple]

and a comma.

unless you're a pirate.

[trim wedge]

I am

[hazy steeple]

"per me big flex, yarr."

[trim wedge]

Mistaken my identity?

[subtle bluff]

HB with lex ar.

[onyx sage]

i love having armor on my build

[trim wedge]

👀how them elites feel

[hazy steeple]

Why no ceska?

[onyx sage]

2p prov is ceska already

[hazy steeple]

2 provi seems like a weird trade.

[onyx sage]

it's the same 8% chc

[hexed steppe]

extra amp makes a difference

+5%

[onyx sage]

you do take more damage though, you can go either way

[hazy steeple]

Sure, but a lack of Coyotes, and taking those 2pcs to get one bonus chd stat seems like a bad trade.

[onyx sage]

coyote forces me to not run vigi

[hazy steeple]

why?

[onyx sage]

the point of this is to get more upfront damage without striker stacks, even if the top end damage is a tiny bit less

and it has been working very well for me

[hazy steeple]

Wait, you're using striker so you don't have to use striker stacks?

[onyx sage]

yes, actually

[hazy steeple]

Are you the reason I keep getting close+personal on my MMR's?

[trim wedge]

Grammar ✅ Build ❌

[onyx sage]

you can take my word for it, but i've been in enough lobbies where other people take too much time that i lose all stacks and the next encounter leaves me too dry

[hazy steeple]

Oh that explains it, you're only playing that in the lobby of Summit.

How did you fire your gun in a safe zone?

[onyx sage]

no i've played it in all legendaries

[hexed steppe]

with the rebalance, it put other striker variants into a more competitive position

[onyx sage]

well there's a secret technique

you've gotta pay for around 20 tuxedo builds to know though

[hazy steeple]

That balance being "don't build stacks", apparently.

[onyx sage]

it's all due to striker backpack nerf

before the nerf it is an additional 21% increase, close to vigilance's 25% if it's the only twd source

[trim wedge]

Coyotes & Ceska go burrr

[onyx sage]

now it's around 12%

so other options have become more competitive

[hazy steeple]

So it got nerfed, and you wanted the rest of your build to suck more in comparison?

[onyx sage]

i'm not sure what you're trying to do here

[hazy steeple]

I'm just having a tough time wondering why you don't just use another build, if you don't want to build stacks?

It's like playing a HF build at long-range.

[onyx sage]

because striker is still among the best sets to go for

a 65% bonus that you build from having 100 stacks is nothing to scoff at. it's just considering the backpack and the chest's bonuses

[hexed steppe]

https://youtu.be/zlMPJp6XpnE?si=-DCofCQdLqyKXsVi

[onyx sage]

i'm not saying you don't run either anymore. you're fine running both. i have run both this season and they all run fine

[hexed steppe]

just for reference

[hazy steeple]

Sorry local, I don't watch any div2 video where the person plasters their face uselessly in the corner.

[hexed steppe]

its a good breakdown

[trim wedge]

What a cutie

[hazy steeple]

Like I get it, play the youtube game and all, but there's a limit.

[hexed steppe]

just use a sticky note to cover

[hazy steeple]

I genuinely had to do that for work, no lie.

okay back to the div2 stuff, enough about seeing the same 3 dull coloured shirts in every video.

[onyx sage]

my point also isn't saying that "vigi + pgc is the new bis now!! you're missing out not running that!"

it has become more competitive, and it has its upsides

but its downside is very big

[magic pilot]

if you dont want to watch a video on why the setup hes using is actually the optimal non chest setup then dont try and call someone out maybe

[hazy steeple]

If it can't be explained with words, then someone adding "like and subscribe" is not going to help.
But either way: you've really mistaken what's happening here.

Clearly the conversation is over already.

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x1CFsSReRXsqBpgkZVUGxeooGDofBBU91UxvnWiXxJg/edit?usp=sharing

there you go just for you, since you are special to me ❤️

[hazy steeple]

Prod, honestly just go.

[hexed steppe]

how many striker chest/bag stacks would it take to exceed pgc/vig. itll probably shed some light on how strong this setup actually is

[magic pilot]

i can find out rn

[fresh fox]

whatever it is, it’s close to the top end

iykwim

[magic pilot]

160% amp

max amp is 180

[fresh fox]

i thought vigi pgc was 168%~

[magic pilot]

180 is max for chest

you need 160 to beat vigi/pgc

[fresh fox]

oh

[onyx sage]

i'm whipping out google colab

[magic pilot]

i can give you edit access for mine if you need

[onyx sage]

sure

[magic pilot]

send me you email

[fresh fox]

ok i thought it was a lot closer

seemed to be when i (probably stupidly) did the math

[magic pilot]

striker chest is only 8% more dps at top end

[fresh fox]

yea i thought c+bp would need to get to 170% buff from stacks to beat vigi+phc

[magic pilot]

160 is to match

170% to be worth

[fresh fox]

so 144% amp from striker?

or 160% worth of stacks

[magic pilot]

160% amp from striker to match full PGC

[fresh fox]

ok gotcha that makes more sense

i thought it was like 170% worth so i was confused

but yea makes sense

[modest path]

about this with the idea of overkill , palisade gives 10% armor on kill, does this armor can get "over armor"? or just the bloodsucker?

[shy willow]

Bonus armour goes over

[modest path]

them armor on kill will not go over right?

[fresh fox]

armor on kill does not convert to bonus armor at max armor

[fresh fox]

.

[modest path]

them , it would be better to trade a palisade piece with bloodsucker to another like cesko/petrov with bloodsucker? in theory

[onyx sage]

you can't get an equivalent change because you can't compensate a strong backpack talent with a brand

[modest path]

what you mean?

like the build has a palisade with bloodsucker

[fresh fox]

i would just drop bloodsucker in general ngl

[modest path]

still use the palisade?

the brand itself could be changed to match personagel preference

just the talent that i'm very doubtful about, because i like the surv of the BSucker

[fresh fox]

that or just live with the sole 10% aok from gunner

[magic pilot]

keep palisade and run firewall shield

the problem with comparing AoK and bloodsucker is that you arent looking at dmg backpack talents as well

[modest path]

its a OD for playing in DUO

[magic pilot]

you want to use LMG on it?

[modest path]

with a hunters fury buddy

yes, got the negev named (lmg

[magic pilot]

ok yea, keep gunner. drop palisade

[modest path]

petrov instead them?

for the 10% LMG dmg

[magic pilot]

if you really want bloodsucker run it with ceska

[subtle bluff]

Wait what is going on here. @modest path what build are you on and what’s wrong with it?

Or what do you want out of it

[modest path]

i'm trying to get a OD build based on one from a video

but the build has a palisade backpack with bloodsucker

pvp guy put in the conversation that this could be overkill and get a dmg talent would be considered a goog opt

[magic pilot]

^

[modest path]

and i was thinking about it because the 10% armor on kill was not that needed

[onyx sage]

it's nice to have

[magic pilot]

With gunner imo I'd rather get more dmg since you have 4 blue

[onyx sage]

my point was that you can't really swap off a good backpack talent like wicked for bloodsucker and try to compensate it with say petrov

[modest path]

soo a was tryind to look for a alternative between changing the talent or the brand, and changind the brand and stay with talent is more like i would like, the bloodsucker for surv make me feel more confortable

[onyx sage]

petrov cannot compensate for wicked's loss

[modest path]

yes yes, but whe wicked was a suggestion

the thing was not losing wicked, but the armor surv

[onyx sage]

wicked's only an example

[modest path]

the objetive is to maintain the survivability of the bloodsucker and see another brand option to exchange the palisde 10% aok

that it was what i got know to do, get a ceska with bloodsucker basically

because its my personal preference the bloodsucker and the 8% CHC from ceska is welcome in comparsion from the petrov

thanks for the help from you all guys

[onyx sage]

i'd say if you have to rank between getting aok or bloodsucker, i'd rather get aok

but ceska with bloodsucker is completely fine

palisade isn't completely needed cuz gunner exists and 10% aok is always there

[modest path]

can you explain for you why the aok would be higher rank them bloodsucker?

[onyx sage]

because bloodsucker expires

and FI being a very common set being run by your groupmates only works when you're at full armor, it doesn't care about bonus armor

which means aok helps with it and bloodsucker doesn't. of course if you have a mix like gunner 10% aok AND bloodsucker then it's fine, just make sure you don't lose ceska or not have any aok

those are the suggestions i would give

[modest path]

use a ceska and gunner if not using palisade basically?

[onyx sage]

yep

[modest path]

thanks for the suggestions, maybe i will get them both

one for a group play style and the other for my duo session

[onyx sage]

ceska bloodsucker + aok should work in both

[modest path]

oh okey, thanks

when making a build that has secondary atributes like CHC or CHD, should i focus getting CHC or CHD ? like i asked this before but maybe i'm really slow, the CHC you can change to CHD but the first priority would be to hit the 50% CHC right?

not counting the 10% SHD CHC , i'm still on level 100 shd

and build has coyotes

[steel grove]

Yes focus on getting around 50 CHC and then start with CHD.

[steel grove]

CHD won't do anything for you if ur CHC is too low

[modest path]

thanks!

[modest path]

is esnare from foam a status effect right?

[subtle bluff]

You playing on heroic?

[modest path]

on summit, yes

[versed summit]

Yes

[modest path]

thanks

[subtle bluff]

What kind of playstyle are you trying to do?

Like how to engage a fight what you goto's to survive and fight your way out of it all?

But if you're still low keep playing get game exp you'll learn how you like to play and make a build around that

[modest path]

with the build OD , just buff dps friends and do ok dmg

does skill tier buff ongoing directive in any ways?

[onyx sage]

no

[wild cloak]

what's the fastest killing build in the pin?

[modest path]

probaly the sniper hotshot

[onyx sage]

regulus headhunter

[inner forge]

Has anyone tried out Merciless after the Rifle update that makes them auto-fire? Does it's passive proc during autofire or does it still function as it used to?

[rich cosmos]

Its not full auto

Because its a binary trigger

Thats its full gimmick

[inner forge]

Ah, I figured, but the thought still popped into my head. lol

[left relic]

Anyone have any advice for making a build with umbra initiative?

[tulip charm]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/04221346-c26f-27f0-a259-4b54909dffd3

[hexed steppe]

I think the set is still bugged. After fast traveling or joining someone you'll have to remove an umbra piece then add it back to start the talents stacking

[modest path]

Coyotes with CHC 5% - CHD 10.8% and 11%(mod)
backpack ceska - CHC 6% and CHC 6%(mod) - CHD 11.4% | *the core would be blue but i still got to drop one better or with the right talent to change core because ceska rarelly drops other them WD - and yes the talent is wrong, trying to get one with bloodsucker
chest - armor 170k, CHC 5.5% and 6%(mod)
glove - armor 170k, CHD 10.8% (pendind optimization)
holster - WD full and CHC 6%
kneepad - WD full and CHC 6%
the dmg output in the DPS for me is hiting the max 486k - but for my duo he got almost to 1M with hunterfury memento

there are still most things to tinker around, this just the begin of the builds basically, but is this the right way ?
yes the build consist in a 3 blue cores armor to not be squishy (i like this way, more my playstyle)

[subtle bluff]

Idk if I shared you with this. But this is the way to measure your DPS correctly.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FaDDfFIqOgdTfceG2ByFvmgStZ6K7whC-7LdND6WXL0/edit?usp=sharing

[modest path]

oh

okey, thanks

[fresh fox]

versatile is meh

just use vigilance or wicked

[modest path]

the talent ir wrong , dont have a better backpack to use

the talent i'm aiming is bloodsucker

[fresh fox]

clear out that powerplant!

[modest path]

what?

[modest path]

sorry, i didn't understand

[tulip charm]

Countdown

Countdown is a powerplant

[modest path]

oh ok

[mint axle]

Versatile is a Gunslinger that went wrong.

[strong cave]

I personally have, checked it out on an Aces and Eights build I've created. The damage you get is just terrible. The talent on merciless doesn't proc at a frequent enough rate and the radius of the explosion is way too tiny. Think of it like the off brand version of the ultra nerfed Strega during PTS

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x1CFsSReRXsqBpgkZVUGxeooGDofBBU91UxvnWiXxJg/edit also I have od in here

[strong cave]

But, not fully auto. The recoil is hard to control and the mods itself are laughable. You'd be better off using Ravenous since that gun does insane Burst DPS and the full auto update makes it even easier to use

[strong cave]

Or every fkn time you walk out of a DZ checkpoint/safehouse

[strong cave]

I'd actually argue unstoppable force. Since their setup is Crit OD, I'd bet they're gonna be fighting like they're playing striker build. Vigilance, getting hit takes away 25% damage and you won't get it back until 4 (or 3 with perf) seconds. If you take damage anytime between that, the talent refreshes another cooldown timer. Unstoppable force needs to be stacked yes, but the up front damage after getting the hollow rounds is still insanely high. Taking unstoppable over vigi allows easier long term damage sustainability

[fresh fox]

wicked

[strong cave]

Nah bc then that's only what, 18%?

I'd rather not get shot or stack up to 25%

Easy to use but unstoppable feels best with this setup

[fresh fox]

vigi

[strong cave]

Vigi is good for up front but soon as you get shot, you've lost 25% and gotta not get shot until the talent refreshes

25% on amp talents is night and day difference damage

PVP, go vigilance. PvE, I argue unstoppable force

[bright raptor]

I need to try out the other full auto rifles with Perfect Braced, since the LVOA-C was still pretty bad with it on

works great point blank though, which I doubt was the actual intention

[strong cave]

I used memento to try and combat point blank issues in terms of taking too much aggro, even then the gun performed so sub optimally that I may as well have been tickling my enemies

Rifles are still ass tier even with the buff. Only rifle that is still viable is Ravenous

[modest path]

thanks man

the RNG god is good today

[violet falcon]

Y'ello agents, wanted to what's a good alternative to the Capacitor Exotic?
So far I've just been using a basic Vector today, while testing out my Hardwired and Umbaro builds - which brings me to my next question, what's roughly a decent of both to use in PvE & P?

I'm using 4x pieces HW & 2x Wyverns
Except for the mask, all cores are skill Tiers with 1 or 2 red attributes.

Primary-as mentioned-is a basic Vector.
Backup - Military RPK-74M.
Sidearm - Tactical M1911.
Using Cluster Seekers & Stinger as skills.

[shy willow]

Capacitor is so good on skill builds there's not really a worthy substitute

It's very easy to get if you don't already have one

[hoary sail]

Capa it's 60% skill dmg if stack at 40 so there no better than this one

[patent fossil]

I've heard rumours that precision strike's talent buffs skills as well as weapon damage, so might be a valid replacement if you can get the stacks.

[hoary sail]

Capa is more convinient for me

[hoary sail]

u talk about the 20 metre stack talent? Idk the name in english

[bright raptor]

Yes

[violet falcon]

Unfortunately, I don't yet - but yesterday someone on the general chat said completing Challenge 5 of the Summit.
Some time later yesterday, I did the first 15 floors...but forgot to in choose the easy challenges from either see sets and only realised when I was done - something that I don't plan on repeating today lol.

[hoary sail]

It's pettry easy to get it nd it's a must have for skills builds

[fresh fox]

precision strike is way more damage

but also only within 20m or whatever

but it’s worth it

[violet falcon]

Roger that, as was to be expected,thanks.
but until I got it, I'm gonna make do with either The Chatterbox, Vector, Apartment or Swap Chain.

[hoary sail]

that's why i don't play that. 20 metre just for activite talent 😫 nd it's not my play style but y i see ur point

[violet falcon]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot - here's my Foundry atm.
Although I think choosing 2x Grupo had satisfied my dilemma 2x piece dilemma..so far.

I wanna use this for Firewall instead of the Demolitionist - or what other build you any of you suggest on instead?

[bright raptor]

why use a shield set if you're not using a shield?

[fresh fox]

foundry works without a shield

[fresh fox]

you aren’t using any explosives so 2pc grupo is useless

stick with 1pc

[magic pilot]

This is true

I use it on oxi in DUA

[hexed steppe]

Cap is top dog.
If using explosives cap has 12% damage to armor that benefits explosives/fire skills.
A shotgun with insync also has 12% dta max.
Personally I use mop shotgun as my cap backup.

Honorable mention for test subject and harmony. 40% skill damage 6%dta.

And yeah, kettle, perfect percision strike is stronger than cap, but not by a lot. About 1mil on mortar top end, but cap is more convenience and doesnt require any maintenance

[fresh fox]

cap is slow pps on🔝

#pps

[violet falcon]

Oh yeah🙈
Chosen 2x Douglas instead.

[violet falcon]

Dammit, yes - picked the Striker Drone, that'll be interesting with the artificer, heh.

[violet falcon]

Cause I'm a Smeghead and somewhat blind😅
Striker and Artificer should be a match made in heaven, hwh

[violet falcon]

I was gonna use the Memento for that. 👍

[violet falcon]

Noice, I've been meaning to try out the Mop.
Harmony, that's the High-end Resolute, unfortunately I only have the latter so far, might as well make due with it as well, jej

[hexed steppe]

Keep an eye on cd vendor. Harmony goes on sale sometimes. Test subject is same talent but available anywhere with ar target loot

That mop aok is a nice bonus tho

[trim wedge]

Anyone one else have a countdown issue where you go in with 30/150 and come out 150 and have to deconstruct stuff 😂

[hexed steppe]

Loot gods showered you in gifts

[trim wedge]

All trash donated to proficiency but still crazy 😂

[modest path]

THE RNG GODS

just got a perfect coyote on a cache

[magic pilot]

Sweet

[autumn elbow]

So im testing out Eclipse protocol CC build on heroic world and missions and it seems like the enemies just shrug off the status effects in around 1 second to 2 seconds... is that normal?

[hexed steppe]

Unless you're in a group, fire should be the default setup

[autumn elbow]

Planning on using it for legendary content like tidal and other missions/strongholds

[hexed steppe]

Fir can double dip status effects and skill damage. So keep cap on it

[autumn elbow]

So in the #td2-build-advice the fire setup would be the better of the 2 to go for?

[hexed steppe]

Oic. Not for legs. For heroic yeah

[autumn elbow]

For legendary what would be best to go for?

[hexed steppe]

Honestly, I think healer might have a stronger use as it buffs team. Same with od

[autumn elbow]

So our setup is this in our group
1 heartbreaker
2 strikers
1 healer

[hexed steppe]

You can set cc eclipse up to buff as well, but it just isnt as strong as the others

3dps + healer should be good. Especially if striker with bag/chest setups

[autumn elbow]

Fair, okay just gonna do that then, thought CC would be good to setup in advance because were getting master difficulty but seeing how little it lasts just doesnt seem worth it

[hexed steppe]

Cc can be very strong, but you need a strong group that can take advantage and spred the status through quick kills

Something like cd, I only run cc eclipse

[autumn elbow]

ah i gotcha, so something like legendary tidal where things take a little bit longer to kill its a bit less ideal to run a CC if you can just run 1 healer and 3 strong DPS?

[ripe owl]

Which one should I use

[hexed steppe]

Yeah I think so. Extra 25% total weapon/skill damage on top of other buffs you would use on ep/od/fi. Opportunistic/survivalist buff towards status/scorpio buff/sledge

[ripe owl]

oh the one on the left base armor is 8612

[hexed steppe]

At this point you just equip whatever gives you most.
Talent > no talent

[modest path]

anyone can advise me for a build for solo cp4(shd lvl farm? maybe a blue core build?

something that is not focused on kill to not be killed ;/

[hexed steppe]

Well hotshot is fastest at clearing but is basically the definition of kill to not be killed.

[kindred mango]

How about hot shot with a bloodsucker bp? It’s pretty tanky

[hexed steppe]

Could use a turret/drone build and let skills clear it.
Or maybe fire eclipse but it's all gonna be slower that mmr/dps setups

Something like heartbreaker will give damage and bonus armor as you stack damage

[timid rain]

Does PVP eagle bearer builds still exist

[violet falcon]

Roger that, just came from both Vendors, had to go through my notes though where Snitch pops up - unfortunately, no Harmony and the caches were mostly high-end gear I already have, same for the St. Elmo's, but thanks for the heads up regardless.

[magic pilot]

2 striker 1 OD and either healer or CC

If you don't have enough dmg cc isn't going to be very good

[magic pilot]

Yes

But if you are building headshot might as well go bighorn since it's so strong rn

[timid rain]

Really? Tell me one

[timid rain]

Forgot that thing existed tbh

Its not fun to fight bighorn builds

[magic pilot]

Crit

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwVgtAzAnG4EyTARjsMAGDXM+9gXEhGGgGxgLEDseudt+wMZFiSS49XDwSyaaBN2E9ywTINpSR6fKmTFJM6QQRoINJMGJbwWtFvJd8y4SZUz8Vc6ZsWMQA

Headshot^ didn't have a pic I'm not home

[potent ingot]

What’s a good mask to run with striker that’s not coyote or catharsis

[autumn elbow]

Grupo sombre

[magic pilot]

Striker mask

[jaunty citrus]

Hi so I'm currently running a heartbreaker set pulse build with the nightwatcher mask and centurion's guard holster, and am wondering if swapping the set with a foundry bulwark set would be better

[fresh fox]

it would not

night watcher isn’t the greatest for heartbreaker because it sacrifices so much if also used with an exotic

you are losing out on a good backpack talent

so use heartbreaker mask instead

and use like a ceska backpack with vigilance or unstoppable force

[jaunty citrus]

So for my current build I should drop my nightwatcher mask and use the set mask, drop the heartbreaker backpack for a ceska backpack with vigilance or unstoppable force? If I drop my backpack I'm losing bonus armor, amd a free max scanner pulse haste attribute from the mask.

[bright raptor]

use the Technician specialization and the pulse laser that comes with it instead of Nightwatcher and mashing the skill button

A damage talent is worth more than the bonus armor

[jaunty citrus]

So would the catharsis mask be the exotic I should shoot for?

[hexed steppe]

Losing pulse let's you run shield and artificer, shield protects vigi and artificer repairs shield every 10 sec

Go coyote mask, or grupo

[jaunty citrus]

So which mask should I be shooting for? I currently have catharsis, coyote's mask, and vile exotic masks

[hexed steppe]

Coyote, or grupo

[bright raptor]

Coyote's

[hexed steppe]

I would get out of the mindset that a piece has to be exotic. In most cases it's not the best.
Coyote is solid, but grupo would be better than catharsis or vile

So think about what helps the build, not weather its exo or not

[jaunty citrus]

So then which holster should I run since I'm going to have to drop my exotic holster

[bright raptor]

the Heartbreaker holster

[hexed steppe]

You'll run ceska vigilance like you mentioned already. Put a hb piece there

[fresh fox]

centurions is good/fine

[rich lotus]

Sawyer kneepads

You are welcome

[fresh fox]

true…

[bright raptor]

they definitely are nice implements to break jaws with

[hexed steppe]

Ninja BB fine too

[fresh fox]

different kind of fine

centurions on paper is better than coyotes/grupo

just a little annoying

[potent carbon]

what the best solo build for all pve content? i need have damage and tanky

[solar sable]

blue striker or heartbreaker

[potent carbon]

did you have detail build?

[warm rose]

any gamers farming heroic summit? returning player and i need gear lol

[ebon sapphire]

people do challenging countdown. just matchmake and set targeted loot

[warm rose]

is this more efficent than summit? i heard farming exotics summit was way to go?

[solar sable]

it's only good if you know how to farm f10/20/..., either way it's easy to understand how it works

On the other hand, Countdown gives mass loot

[ebon sapphire]

both are good for farming exotics. Today I got two exotics in 2 straight runs on countdown. I don’t like doing summit because I don’t like loading screens

[bleak sequoia]

countdown is brainless, quick and reliable, and the group always fills in 5 min or less, and also gives you tons of named items and random junk that can be used to increase expertise or deconstructed for mats

[warm rose]

i like this answer lmao loadscreens are not fun ill try countdown challenging, i was doing heroic but people seem inconsistent there

[ebon sapphire]

but yeah, countdown is more efficient imo because of other loot, can mark as junk and donate to lvl up expertise or deconstruct for mats

[solar sable]

heroic CD is not worth the time

[warm rose]

gotchaaaa thanks

[ebon sapphire]

Heroic is just time consuming with almost close to the same loot with challenging. If you are looking for exotics, if you can find it in the open world as general loot pool then you can most def find it in CD. Just make sure you set targeted loog

[solar sable]

"you get higher/better rolls on heroic" yeah but

1. Not worth
2. Not too newbie friendly

[ebon sapphire]

I’ve got 3 max crit dmg on challenging CD at shd 1300. Mostly luck

[rich lotus]

People struggling with heroic CD in this power creep is crazy cause they didn’t make any changes to enemy health or aggression 😭

striker point click shoot is really hard ig

[lime crown]

Good evening. Only been playing for a few weeks, so go easy on me. I am trying to find the Striker backpack, but when I look on the map tonight, I don't see anything that calls out Striker loot. Can anyone help me on where I would go to find it. Or do I just need to do Summit?

[hazy steeple]

@lime crown If you can't find the right TL (targeted loot) on the map/missions, then you can use Summit or Countdown to pick your own.
Generally speaking, Countdown (on challenging) is the best way, as it's a lot faster to Matchmake for, and the loot rate is very high for the amount of time spent.

[magic pilot]

Your best all round build for every content is just striker

But depending on what you actually play you will need specific builds to perform well

[warm rose]

whats the most ideal way to setup strikers with st elmos nowadays? like whats best damage

this is how im setup rn

[onyx sage]

that's solid, if you want even more burst damage that's not as stack-reliant you can consider losing coyote and using sacrifice. that's a hell lot riskier tho

[warm rose]

yeaaa i w key too much for something riskier lol

[onyx sage]

what you're running is plenty fine

in some harder content you don't even need the acs-12 to build stacks, you can just use a straight up smg to deal damage at close range

but for something like incursion where you are completely fine getting close then just use acs

[warm rose]

ok dope so ill just focus on a better st elmos and optimizing gear to max stats

[onyx sage]

does your elmo have dttooc?

[warm rose]

reload 😦

[onyx sage]

rip

reroll to dttooc then just optimize

[warm rose]

how do i reroll it??

[onyx sage]

crafting table lets you reconfigure it

that's what we call reroll

if you don't have the blueprint talk to inaya

[warm rose]

oh snap didnt realize that was a thing i just saw i couldnt recalibrate and said welp guess ill farm another one

[onyx sage]

having more is always good for mules

[warm rose]

still bummed i missed out on lexington by like a week

[potent carbon]

is this set pvp with eagle bearer?

[solar sable]

So we're in copper?

Yes, you can see it equipped as the secondary weapon.

[potent carbon]

can i play primary weapon? or lexington still the best?

[solar sable]

Yes to the first, and I don't know about that second one.

[potent carbon]

can i get lexington from countdown?

[solar sable]

No, it was a limited time reward that was given to everyone twice.

[potent carbon]

any alternative?

[obtuse shoal]

Does anyone have good Uoroboros pvp build?

[obtuse shoal]

Carabine 7

[gentle lichen]

4 striker intimidate chest and ad rush bag

Quite powerful even full blue

[obtuse shoal]

How does it work with stacks?

[plucky heart]

hello,need little help
i have td2 ultimate version,new player btw.
Is it bad move to go insta. on lvl 30,or should play normally

[mint axle]

It's up to you, but I would recommend you play normally to get used to the map, missions, factions and everything else.

[plucky heart]

thx for answer,yeah

[haughty pawn]

Totally agree with anna - going through the regular progression is good because you unlock skills just slowly - but just consistently enough for you to get used to how they can be used. Helps you figure out which ones you like, which gear and weapons you wanna use.

[plucky heart]

thx for advices guys

[fresh fox]

lexington would do more damage but yea eagle bearer is still useable

[plucky heart]

thx for helping me,some random guys,if u here on disc ❤️

[burnt sundial]

a place to farm 1886 is open world when the targeted loot is rifle? or is summit, or some other place better?

[bright raptor]

Countdown Challenging is probably best by volume, but if you don't want to be following or chasing 7 other players open world and Summit works too

[timid rain]

does slayer 3.0 from gold works also?

[fresh fox]

what

[rich lotus]

Does it compton??

Does it work

Slayer 3.0

Cause we all know what that is

[fresh fox]

true sorry for forgetting guys.

[rich lotus]

I prefer slayer 5.3 myself

[timid rain]

5.3?

gold updated the build?

[fresh fox]

what??

[rich lotus]

Who the hell is gold

[fresh fox]

just post the build 😭😭

[rich lotus]

You are asuming everyone knows who Rogue Gold is and has watched his video

[onyx sage]

i don't even know

[magic pilot]

yea i dont watch that garbage

[strong cave]

I only watch rogue gold for his DZ farming series. Why am I gonna rely on others to give me a half ass build when I can just theorize my own?

But yeah post the build. Let's see it

[subtle bluff]

That thing is an over a year old I remember "Slayer" build when I was a nooooob and was still uh?

[patent fossil]

We tend to use the pinned spreadsheet for builds, YouTubers churn out far too many build videos and only a fraction of them are meta.

KVD, amongst other things, has a tendency to promote exploits (such as xp farms) that actively harm the game and sometimes get people banned.

[modest path]

@patent fossil sorry about the ping, what are some high end meta builds for dps?

i remember asking about this yellow standar dps build on here but got the response that being this a best "starter" dps and in the section of the build has "When someone in a raid says "Put on a DPS build" they mean ideally this build, not just any red build. " but for raid

or really is a overall meta high end?

[patent fossil]

Current meta for most content is 4pc striker with p sacrifice chest and ceska/providence bag with vigilance.
Raids prefer high end in some cases because you don't need to stack like striker.

Striker with bag and chest is also meta in a few raid and incursion encounters. Basically just depends how possible it is to build and maintain stacks

But yeah, the standard high end dps build hasn't really changed in the last few balance passes so that build is still valid.

[modest path]

4pc striker without chest and bag strike?

seems interesting

thanks man!

[gloomy spruce]

Many youtubers go for entertainment value over actual usefulness in their builds. The Division 2 is a very complex game and the pie for youtube content creators for this game is very small. To appease the youtube algorithm, they have to make lots of vids for a very small number of viewers.

Hence why the builds they suggest are often subpar or just not that helpful.

[patent fossil]

Depends on context, striker is easy to run, copes well with basically all content, and has pretty much the highest dps.
Builds like regulus hhf are technically stronger but require greater skill to play effectively and aren't suitable in all content

Ongoing directive, Negotiators dilemma and hotshot builds are all very strong too though if you want some variety

Plus support builds like foam are great in group content

You can look them up in the pinned spreadsheet

Exotics aren't always the best choice, really depends on the build and the exotic in question

[gloomy spruce]

Striker is one of the easiest to assemble. I still have quite a few high end builds, but High End red damage crit builds usually boil down to the same talents and pieces.
With high end builds, you want to have a chest piece that has obliterate or glass cannon, a backpack with vigi. Every brand calibrated to increase CHC/CHD.
As @patent fossil mentioned, Ongoing Directive and Negotiators are quite strong. I am partial to Crit Hunter's Fury, but others use the Head Hunter version. Hotshot is strong for snipers. Some people swear by Heart Breaker as well for Crit AR/LMG builds.

There are a few of us who like skill builds despite the shade we tossed. Drone+Turret is a popular combo on that. Another is explosive mortar. There are lots of options in this game.

Striker being a gear set is the easiest to farm though.

Its okay as a tanking and support build in my experience. I am not that much of a fan of it for your same reasoning.

[bright raptor]

you can do a good amount of damage with Heartbreaker by setting all gear pieces to weapon damage core attributes, but your mileage may vary on whether or not you're willing to tolerate the weaker shield

however for best results regardless of core attribute rolls, you're locked into using Technician + the pulse laser to pulse enemies and build stacks, which combos pretty well with the Flatline weapon talent

On a high end crit build you can also use the Technician laser + Flatline with the Spotter chest talent for another pretty strong buff to damage

[umbral basin]

Ok so new to build part of game, only really started playing at this stage... just been running strikers at mo, but wanna start looking to get higher and do challenging stuff easy enough. Has anyone got any suggestions for gear to match up or look out for or a specific AR, LMG for a build? Also massive question, what's more important crit damage or crit chance, I'm guessing these are more important than headshot damage too on auto and lmg's?? Thanks in advance 👍

[vale bluff]

has community landed on a meta ravenous build yet

[bleak sequoia]

I once saw a build with Breaking Point and Ravenous making up for each other's shortcomings but it was like tying two stones together to see if it floats

[bright raptor]

critical chance to 50% or so, then remainder of your rolls will be critical hit damage

[patent fossil]

chd should be about double chc until chc hits cap (60%)

[primal vessel]

whats a good build againist hunters?

[magic pilot]

Hunters fury with Scorpio

[magic pilot]

General consensus is that rav is only useful for one shots

[primal vessel]

u know any build
like 4p hunter what else 2p

[hexed steppe]

Striker is a pretty easy set to get through all higher level content. You need proper crit for it to really melt tho. The pinned spreadsheet has a lot of build guides that you can use to streamline what you currently have.
Elmo, Lexington , famas, eagleburger should all be good on it. Can also use an acs shotgun for quick stacking.

Personally I like negotiators for dps build. It's based on crits and allows you some pretty high chd. Ar/rifle pairing works good since it's not based on stacks. Nego uses crits to mark NPCs.
Crit hits on target transfer (duplicates) damage to all Marks . Very handy when you have some requittal npcs , or npcs that love to hide. Can also destroy immune items through the transfer.
Elmo/Lexington and m1a cqb are my goto.
Nego has a guide as well

[umbral basin]

Nice ill have look through that

[sly ferry]

whats better for grinding sets, doing targeted loot areas/missions or summit?

[pearl turtle]

recently got back into the game and decided to do a skill build (i’ve only ever done crit build and even those were poor because i was uneducated lol) can i post it here and get some opinions on it? if that’s cool

[versed summit]

countdown.

Otherwise, in my experience, I can often farm TL faster in open world targeted zones then summit or missions, but it depends on the zone. I'd say that's very subjective though.

[versed summit]

yep

[pearl turtle]

thank you bud

i finally got the capacitor but it’s not as good as i thought it would be, but i feel that’s mainly because my aim absolutely sucks lol

[sly ferry]

countdown? You can target sets in that?

[versed summit]

yep, it will set the targeted loot to the same thing summit is set to

[bleak sequoia]

oh you can set target loot in countdown before the mission starts by setting the summit target loot? TIL

I'm always standing there like an idiot to pick my loot while my teammates are already dashing off

[versed summit]

you can actually do it in the map of countdown too

so if you want to switch what you're targeting midway you can

[pearl turtle]

this is my skill build atm, i know i have the wrong specialization on but i just havent unlocked it yet, drone does about 70k and turret about 117k dmg

lex has in sync on it as well

[vestal ibex]

Better off with cap tho

Get more skill damage and it'll do more damage than lex cause of how it gets damage from yellow cores.

[pearl turtle]

yeah, my aims just better with the lex really, cap is good and i like it, but i only use it really at short to midish range

i try to use both anyways

[vestal ibex]

Yeah well cap gets 40 stacks which gives you 60% + skill damage. idk it's just your average turret/drone build. Not much to say about it.

[pearl turtle]

ye, just got back into the game

[versed summit]

I'd use a rifle for longer engagements. something like an MK17 or M1A classic work well. Harmony is also ok but it takes a bit of luck to get one.

[versed summit]

It's a pretty standard build so nothing wrong with it, but I'd recommend checking out the pinned spreadsheet's build guide for turret drone skill builds to see if there's anything you might want to change. IMO, skill haste is generally pretty wasted on a T/D build

[hexed steppe]

Cap and perfect precision strike weapon best combo atm, unless they fixed the talent

[versed summit]

been a bit since a patch right?

that's very much not intended though

[hexed steppe]

Yeah not intended, but adds some damage above cap. Use it till ya lose it

[pearl turtle]

hmm okay, i’ve heard about harmony, how do you go about getting it?

[hexed steppe]

Dz, named caches

[pearl turtle]

oh really? i have a mix of skill haste/duration on my gear, i have skill damage on everything of course

[hexed steppe]

Test subject is same talent, but is also ar so cap better

[pearl turtle]

i thought the faster my skills cooled down the better tbh

i have several test subjects

[hexed steppe]

You dont need duration. And at 100 haste you're gold. I use pfe and gunner /mop on my setup for some aok

[pearl turtle]

my skill haste is 99.2 hahahah

[versed summit]

yes, but IMO you can't shave off enough time with skill haste for it to be effective with these skills, It'll be about 10 less seconds of CD

I'd rather take CHC/CHD to buff my weapons, and while it's a little boring for me, I think regen is also a very strong option.

[pearl turtle]

nah i need some health options i agree, my armour is low

[pearl turtle]

so i should bin off skill haste and duration?

[hexed steppe]

PCA is great but with turret/drone you lose a lot of uptime compared to tech support

[bleak sequoia]

what's that holster and what secondaries do you have? I assume the 3 mods are 3x PFE

[hexed steppe]

I'm at 100 haste. Mods are all pfe. Ots worth putting chd in if using modifiers and retribution. You'll boost up chc and cap strong af like that

[versed summit]

def duration

[pearl turtle]

could be worth throwing in some CHC/CHD damage then instead of duration/haste?

[hexed steppe]

That's waveform. It gives me more than empress iirc
Prior to nerf I was empress tho

[versed summit]

technically it gave more than Empress International/Wyvern Wear before, but it's just the fluctuation that's an issue. It looks better now though

I think it evens out to about 12% skill damage when dod tested it, but there's a lot of factors with it's uptime

[bleak sequoia]

do the stacks disappear when out of combat or they stay?

[versed summit]

it's constantly building/switching stacks in and out of combat IIRC

[bleak sequoia]

ok that's pretty nice

[versed summit]

more annoying IMO

[bleak sequoia]

I mean it's not like you're going to stop shooting with the drone just because it's the turret's turn to have +30% right?

[hexed steppe]

I probably woulda been using it before but empress filled up too many spots. Wanted to keep sac and palisades to maintain higher damage and aok*. The trade for me was 3 empress for wave 2xhanna

[hexed steppe]

Yeah with all the uptime wave isnt really waster there

[magic pilot]

Ceska intimidate chest, grupo ad rush backpack

I usually run technician with revive hive and foam for hunters

Since they are a huge pain if you die, and revive hive works with faraday buff

Tech+ ammo mod for foam gives you 3 shots

[kindred mango]

Memento BP is nice if solo too

[primal vessel]

red & blu hybrid?

[kindred mango]

I run it with Memento and have one other blue rest red

[primal vessel]

i mean gear attributes

[kindred mango]

All crit

[primal vessel]

core attributes?

[kindred mango]

This is my setup for HF. 55% cc 151% cd

[primal vessel]

that will help thx

[versed summit]

I'd recommend taking another CHC mod tbh. espcially with killer

[magic pilot]

Eh not for hunters

[primal vessel]

how memeonto going to benefit

cuz no stacks

[magic pilot]

I'd probably go 2 blue if you are going technician

[magic pilot]

Stick with ad rush

3 blue with firewall

[versed summit]

tbh HF is iffy against hunters as well. I'd recommend HE PFE, but HF is easier to put together tbf

[magic pilot]

Yea true, PFE would work well

[kindred mango]

Jeez against hunters nm

[magic pilot]

But I'd go striker pfe if anything

With Scorpio you should be with with stacking

[hexed steppe]

That would depend if running modifiers or not. Retribution would have that maxed in 10 mid range shots 😉

[magic pilot]

I did all my hunter kills with hunters fury personally

[versed summit]

tbh I pretend modifiers don't exist :/

[hexed steppe]

Oh no

[kindred mango]

Yes pfe and the ad rush bag IMO. Smoked them

[hexed steppe]

I been abusing retribution. Yellow core skill build cap tearing stuff up

[versed summit]

Yeah I probably should try it with a hybrid build like that

[primal vessel]

so i go all red
1 core blu
and memento

[quiet arrow]

what gear set goes with backfire

[versed summit]

Any DPS one tbh. I’d recommend against Umbra as it synergizes a lot less there.

[quiet arrow]

strikers fine?

[patent fossil]

Hunters fury probably since it rewards close range play

[quiet arrow]

alr

[magic pilot]

I don't even know how to respond

I say stick with ad rush, you reply and say memento

[primal vessel]

whats ad rush idk lmao

[kindred mango]

I think I confused him lol. I assumed hunters meant HF and not actual hunters my bad

[primal vessel]

i just have 200 hrs

[versed summit]

adrenaline rush backpack talent

[rich lotus]

how would i go about getting heartbreaker gear

[primal vessel]

all red build?

[versed summit]

Targeted loot, countdown is a good place to start. Do you know how to set targeted loot and how to join countdown?

[rich lotus]

no

im just getting back into the game

forgot everything

[versed summit]

well if you open your map and press up on the dpad (IIRC) you'll see the targeted loot on the map. If you go to the top right corner, you'll the countdown and summit "points" on the map, while hovering over these, if you press down on the dpad, it will let you select whatever loot you want to farm

[rich lotus]

i can never find people to play countdown with

[versed summit]

what difficulty are you matchmaking on?

you want to be matchmaking on challenging

[rich lotus]

ah ok

i thought matchmaking was just general

i got a lobby instantly thx

[kindred mango]

Yeah I always get a lobby in just a couple seconds on xb

[rich lotus]

whats a nice build for countdown
thats pretty simple to get

[vestal ibex]

Good old OP/boring/easy af to build strikers.

[rich lotus]

alright

[vestal ibex]

Build guide in the pinned messages>spreadsheet>hub tab>strikers

[timid rain]

if i remember gold still use the slayer 3.0 pvp eagle bearer

[magic pilot]

This is basically a better version of slayer 3.0

[timid rain]

ok

whats the mods?

[subtle bluff]

IDK. I purged all those YouTube build out of my head

[magic pilot]

chd

[uneven forge]

Hi guys, can someone help me with a capacitor + turret build? I dont know if its a budget thing or if it is just better but most "skill" builds i see are using only high-end equipment and no set bonus. Is Rigger a good set?

[fresh fox]

no

the skill gearsets kinda suck for turret/drone

so they arent used

[uneven forge]

Shame. The high end builds are good for most content?

Not doing countdown of course, hunters...

[fresh fox]

no just skill builds are like that

for actual gun damage gearsets tend to be stronger

[uneven forge]

Oh ok, thats what i meant, guess im building a high end skill build then, thanks

[timid rain]

ok thanks

[shy basalt]

yeah. it's just slower (albeit easier to play)

any of turret/drone build, gun build, hybrid will cleanly take you through most content

[subtle bluff]

Normal content but not End-game content.

[shy basalt]

What do you consider endgame? I've done all the available legendary campaigns, so many loops of summit, tons of open world bounties and CPs, and a shitload of countdown

[tulip tree]

Sir, you are the end game.

[modest path]

is there any named gun as a "top" option for striker? please don't say lexington, i have ptsd

aaa the shield splinter

[versed summit]

Lexington. If you don’t have it just use a high end AR, there’s not really a need to use a named one.

[hexed steppe]

its pretty hard to mess up a turret/drone cap skill build. its all highend because there isnt a lot that really boosts kinetic skills like turret/drone. youll need to use highend chest/bag talents to get the most out of them. also, highend pieces roll with 2 attributes, so they end up being better damage.

basic formula for a strong turret/drone is 3 empress, 2 hanna, 1 wyvern. skill damage and haste attributes, haste mods
chest talent - glass cannon or kinetic momentum
bag talent - Tech support
(other bag talent options, combined arms/shock and awe, dont synergize with this type, and more suited to explosives builds)

if you have all skilltiers on gear you can use whatever spec as well. it you want/stuck with a red or blue main core youll run tech spec.

the above examples are personal preference, and use sacrifice chest, pallisades knee, and exo is waveform on the first.

apparently 2 images didnt fit in one msg 😂

[hexed steppe]

late tag, 👆

[warm knot]

I see pfe mods there? I run a different setup.

[hexed steppe]

yeah, im already sitting at 100 haste on both

technically i only use the waveform version now, but left the pfe. same on mortar for this agent 3x pfe

[warm knot]

I run 3x empress, waveform, wyvern, deathgrips(still trynna get a good ps piece to replace it) glass, tech, 1 blue and technician.

[hexed steppe]

i ended up crafting the palisades a ton before i got something useful

but gunner nice on it. and you get them foam nades

i used emperors guard for a little bit, but like the aok better. the skills both just keep it procced

then there is this monstrosity if you really want a non-afk
only recommended to people that hate themselves

[warm knot]

Imagine if the skills could trigger the +5% fire rate on kill from gunnerv

[hexed steppe]

that im not sure, but its easy to test

[warm knot]

Maybe it does for chems tho.

[hexed steppe]

kinda handy with the modifiers tho, and ability to make the turret get the amp

ill hop in range and see, logging now

[warm knot]

I wish I could play.. I'm really busy studying for my exams. There's a lot of new builds I'd like to try.

[hexed steppe]

i hear that 🍻 , the builds will always be waiting

cant really tell tbh. sounds about the same tho, so probably not.
i could see chems doing it since they are pretty much coded as a weapon and take the firearm talents

yeah, def not. only the weapon kills bring up the proc on screen

[trim wedge]

For raids any tips ?

[onyx sage]

looks good, just survive and follow instructions

[trim wedge]

I just hate seeing one blue on backpack but it god rolled with vigi couldn’t pass it up im running 51 CHC and 114 CHD

[onyx sage]

you'll get a better one later

[trim wedge]

Would this build also work for incursions ?

Gonna try to start hitting it hard to get ouro

[onyx sage]

would say you'd rather run backpack and chest

because in incursion you can stack up to 200 easily

[trim wedge]

Awesome I have both for my normal striker build

Lemme throw it together and send a ss

Chest backpack and coyotes ?

[onyx sage]

yeah, just picture this: in incursion there are a lot of opportunities to shoot at immune bosses, so you can get stacks easily, only in tanker would you think of switching to glass cannon+vigi. but in raids you get a lot of typical shootouts with regular adds and so you don't have enough time or add tankiness to stack to 200

[onyx sage]

ceska for the last piece

[trim wedge]

Would 2 blue cores work?

Or I need to roll back to weapon dmg

[onyx sage]

also if you're running dark hours, only fights i would run chest+backpack striker on are lucy+buddy and razorback

[onyx sage]

just go all weapon damage

you end the fight quicker so you don't need the blues

[trim wedge]

Gotcha should I run survivalist?

And Lexington

W strained

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for dark hours it's nice to run either survivalist or demolisher so you can do the razorback mechanic faster, but it's not required

and yeah lex with strained is fine

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What 5 piece should I replace?

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swap gloves, holster or kneepads out for ceska or grupo

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Gotcha

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you have coyote? use it for the mask and use ceska for 1 of the 3 i said above

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Oh okay my bad I misunderstood