td2-build-advice

[marsh river]

if u replace 1 piece hotshot for habsburg and (in my case providence) vigilance for ninjabag, my stat changes should be
-vigilance
+20% mmr dmg
+skill tier
+armor

its more durable and more consistent, but less max damage potential

[onyx sage]

wouldn't it be -8% weapon handling

or the same

[marsh river]

no, ur right, i was thinking i gain weapon handling on the habibi piece but i forget i am losing it on the providence

[onyx sage]

habibi piece LMAO

[rich lotus]

HABIBI PIECE

[onyx sage]

i'm gonna call it that from now on

[rich lotus]

im dead

[hasty sluice]

10mr/13hd +13hd% prov + vig vs 13hd/20mr + ninja 3pbreaking 30%hs/15%wh

[marsh river]

providence and habibi should cancel eachother out completely

[hasty sluice]

sorry im doing math

[marsh river]

so its +20mmr and ninjabike tiers

minus vigilance

now if u shift ur focus towards pvp / conflict, then ninjabike suddenly is bis i think for just about everything since vigilance is not even remotely viable

[onyx sage]

that's true

[hexed steppe]

Highly doubt. Ninja is trash tier for the most part

Good component tho

[fresh fox]

not for sniper builds

[marsh river]

btw, if u guys wanna get stupid.
3p umbra, 2p striker, ninjabike, and chatterbox. BRRRRRRRRRT

[fresh fox]

the only pvp builds that use it are like healer and umbra

[marsh river]

whatever happened to focus rifles btw

[hasty sluice]

13%hs/20%mr)haps + 13%hs)Aira +3pbreaking 30%hs + 5%ad )haris
VS
13%hs )prov + vig 25% wd

so based on that I think ninja + hapsburg would get me more dmg than prov with vig

unless wd effects total damge way more than I expect

[hexed steppe]

Are you taking into account that vig is total weapon damage and not additive with redcores

[hasty sluice]

no cause i did not know that

[hexed steppe]

If it's the only source of total weapon damage, vigilance will have the same impact as regular glass

There is a big reason we say ninja is trash tier

[marsh river]

the existance of vigilance does not make ninja trash lol

[hasty sluice]

do you think vig would beat out an extra 43% hs + 20%mr + 5% armor damage?

[hexed steppe]

No, the existence of ninja makes it trash

Always better options outside of some specific pvp builds

[marsh river]

whats the regular headhunter perk? chainkiller is 1250%

i dont remember

[onyx sage]

hold on, how does airaldi give 13% hsd

[hasty sluice]

ninja

[onyx sage]

1250% is the cap which does not change from regular to perfect, but the ramp per kill goes from 125% to 150%

[onyx sage]

no because airaldi doesn't give hsd

[onyx sage]

oh wait, mb. thinking the dta was on 2p

[marsh river]

hol up... that means chainkiller is not such a dope pick in this case. i should use airaldi instead

[hexed steppe]

Use airaldi vigilance

[onyx sage]

well not really, the ramp up is more noticeable than you think

[marsh river]

ive been using chainkiller for ages and not considered that lmao

[onyx sage]

without it you might not be reaching high enough damage for second kill

[rich lotus]

yeah this guide written by some rando is pretty good https://www.evernote.com/shard/s697/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=a35a5a5a-49be-18d8-9adf-21db9ab4458b&noteKey=AQZslVrmDps0MiJnBOuqVoD4mCkyYtZBWZF2-xb21YqqQUyeFN67NBubjA&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs697%2Fsh%2Fa35a5a5a-49be-18d8-9adf-21db9ab4458b%2FAQZslVrmDps0MiJnBOuqVoD4mCkyYtZBWZF2-xb21YqqQUyeFN67NBubjA&title=Headhunter%2BGuide%2B%2528TU19%2529

[onyx sage]

totally not me and i totally didn't forget to update it for TU22

[rich lotus]

smh

[marsh river]

idk havent tried but i can pop 1 red then i can get a yellow on my next, in solo legendary.. sooo

and i havent even pumped my gun

[onyx sage]

i mean solo legendary hp is low af

you don't need vigi in the first place for solo leg

[rich lotus]

this was some crazy latex btw im impressed

oops cant see it

[onyx sage]

math major so

[rich lotus]

yeah thats why u know div2 math so smart!

[onyx sage]

no i just do high school math in here

[rich lotus]

this is like grade school math bruh

3rd grade type shi

[keen meteor]

me when variables

(I cant read)

[marsh river]

funny. i dont even have an airaldi chest

probably salvaged 200 usable ones, gg

[fresh fox]

horrible guide don’t listen to him

[marsh river]

hmm

is there a cap to attack speed for things like umbra chatterbox?

[fresh fox]

tux has a better understanding of headhunter watch his videos

[rich lotus]

tux my goat

[fresh fox]

we love tux

i only use player club builds

[onyx sage]

except i sourced my knowledge from his paid build videos

[rich lotus]

yes bro best 20 dollars i ever spent

[onyx sage]

which he sourced from @urban latch

[fresh fox]

yea but your influence on the heavenly knowledge provided is tainting it’s glorious quality

[rich lotus]

yes its how fast the server can register it

[hasty sluice]

13%hs/20%mr)haps + 13%hs)Aira +3pbreaking 30%hs + 5%ad )haris VS 13%hs )prov + vig 25% wd

so somebody do math for me please ;-;

[marsh river]

just feed it to wolframalpha

[onyx sage]

i'm not paid enough for this

[rich lotus]

put some community service in pal

[hasty sluice]

43% hs + 20%mr + 5% armor damage vs vig

[fresh fox]

vigi wins

[rich lotus]

vigi wins by a landslide

[onyx sage]

but but 43% > 25% guys

[hexed steppe]

Vigilance always wins

[fresh fox]

ohhh darn you are right

i didn’t think of that

[hexed steppe]

You dont still have that mmr calc sheet , do you?

[hasty sluice]

well it more so if it beats out the extra 20% mr dmg and the extra armor dmg. i have no idea how those are mathed

[onyx sage]

@ancient dune help!!!!!!

[onyx sage]

read the guide that whaet linked earlier. hsd is heavily undervalued by hh because it doesn't scale the better part of your damage which is the "hh bonus"

[ancient dune]

1 sec boss

[fresh fox]

hurry up pal

[hasty sluice]

will do

[fresh fox]

ur on the clock

[rich lotus]

we need results fast buddy

[ancient dune]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k2ED0uWZODGlxaMP1rMKpgxRbHyfWQBelTVEKGfJzM0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[fresh fox]

finally

only took a billion years

[ancient dune]

😔 why is everyone so mean to me

[rich lotus]

profile bio is "i piss hard" why do u think??

[fresh fox]

😔 why is reck so freaking slow!!??

[rich cosmos]

Lol

[fresh fox]

smh.

[ancient dune]

I bet it's because I'm so cute and my ass is so fat

[rich lotus]

OK BUDDY

[fresh fox]

i think that’s true 🤔

[rich lotus]

lowkey

it is... 😳

[fresh fox]

now i HAVE to factcheck this.

[rich lotus]

i feel like rivens aboutta say something

nvm we in the clear 😎

[hasty sluice]

I cant seem to find a part about Headshot dmg

[hexed steppe]

Much appreciated

[onyx sage]

it's in the first part that tells you what stats increase hh bonus

it doesn't include hsd

[ancient dune]

It's not updated for current season modifiers though 😔 haven't done any testing yet

[onyx sage]

only specific stats and talents increase it like brazen (which i haven't included because i'm lazy)

[solar sable]

lazy grandpa

[fresh fox]

quick we have to chat a bunch so it stays hidden

[rich lotus]

I love headhunter and rigger 😻

[hasty sluice]

So hsd only multiplies shot dmg?

[onyx sage]

yes

and you have tons of hsd already

meaning %increase is much smaller

[hasty sluice]

thats what I was just about to say

[onyx sage]

if anything that means your shot dmg is a lot stronger but your max hh dmg is lower

if you care about max hh dmg (which you shouldn't be prioritizing over EVERYTHING else but alas) then you want weapon damage and total weapon damage

[hasty sluice]

I understand why vigi is better now.
simply having a muliplyer on the shot itself vs the dmg the shot does

correct?

[onyx sage]

vigi is twd, and it's usually the only twd source so that 25% is its own multiplier

[onyx sage]

you can understand it as it multiplying both parts of your damage

so it's a lot stronger than a stat that only multiplies shot dmg, assuming both have same value

[hasty sluice]

ah i see it under both

[onyx sage]

yeah hh math is hard for beginners

[fresh fox]

normal math is hard too.

[ancient dune]

It's just a little silly because amps seem to be able to apply in 3 different parts of the formula and that's pretty unintuitive

[fresh fox]

super secret amp classification

[kindred mango]

I run bloodsucker with hotshot because taking cover can be optional hehe

[onyx sage]

yeah which leads to this unintuitive statement "there are multiple kinds of amp"

[hasty sluice]

ok so in short vigi boosts your base shot damge. then HH boosts the overall damage with vigi also boosting that?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[hasty sluice]

stupid
but makes sense

[violet basin]

Hey question
What smg is the apartment based on? For math reasons

[onyx sage]

mpx

[fresh fox]

like the house!@!!!!!!!!!!!!@!

[dull ermine]

@rich lotus so I tried just a sawed off double barrel and it didn’t go so well, I take it you need the damage from perfect pumped up on boomstick?

[ancient dune]

If only it were groated like the house

[dull ermine]

It only had 7.7% shotgun damage tho, everything else max

[fresh fox]

true...

bring the house back......

[kindred mango]

The House + Predator’s Mark was the jam

[hasty sluice]

house + classy striker

[hasty sluice]

thats deff part of the issue. the sawed off also is just kinda mid imo

[marsh river]

why on earth doesnt my umbra ability activate in DZ?

[kindred mango]

Maybe in TD3 we’ll get The Shed or something hehe

[onyx sage]

the slum

the tent

[kindred mango]

Bugged you have to put the gear back on like Unbreakable

[marsh river]

damn ok. well ty

[kindred mango]

Hopefully they fix tomorrow 🤞

[molten thorn]

Is there a skill build (turret+drone play for you basically) that's better than
2pc HU (force multiplier)
1pc Wyvern
1pc Murakami
1pc Brazos (for a bit of extra armor)
Waveform
Capacitor

This is what I've been using for a while and i wanna know just how suboptimal i am

[magic pilot]

3 empress, 1 wyvern, 2 hanu is standard

[molten thorn]

No exotic just all high end?

[onyx sage]

yeah

weapon is where you can use an exotic which is capacitor, or waveform if you really want to use it but otherwise you don't really need it

[molten thorn]

Huh. I'll have to farm out some empress stuff.

[onyx sage]

waveform's increase is so little compared to wyvern anyway

[molten thorn]

Technician spec yeah?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[molten thorn]

Thanks!

[dull ermine]

Yea I’ll optimize it and see what happens I’m not used to the kick when you use it too

[violet basin]

This makes me sad.
Apartment still bad

[kindred mango]

In Sync is sweet with a high end skill build

Harmony legit gave me a repetitive stress injury clicking it semi auto heh

[hasty sluice]

I got what I wanted but dam is it gonna take alot of mats to max out

[molten thorn]

Oh i have in sync on my build i just didn't put it in the list because cap is usually the main weapon

[kindred mango]

Nice. I think I prefer In Sync vs Capacitor because it boosts the skill damage too but if it works for you go for it

[hasty sluice]

cap and sync both boost skill damage?

[tulip charm]

yeah

a shotgun w/ in sync is 2nd to cap

[hasty sluice]

cap boosts skill dmg by 60% and perfect sync boosts it by 40%

and normal sync is 30%

[silent creek]

does crit chance matter at all for Pestilence builds or do you want pure weapon damage mods?

running with Umbra if that matters for pure RPM

[kindred mango]

I’m just lazy In Sync doesn’t decay i just tap an ad once or twice every couple seconds to keep it up. Capacitor has better overall buffs

[tulip charm]

crit = better damage overall. Pure Weapon Damage = meme tick build.

[hazy steeple]

Crit is very important in pretty much any build that isn't pure headshots or status/skill damage.

[silent creek]

alright I'll fool around with it. I can get it up to like 1.4 million per tick right now

[tulip charm]

thats standard.

[silent creek]

yeah it's not super optimized, just fooling around with it. ninjabike, 3x umbra, a negotiator piece, and contractor's gloves. I used it for like three days before I realized I hadn't even added mods to two of the armor pieces

one dumb part of it is that umbra just sometimes doesn't work until you unequip a piece and put it back on. no stacks unless you do that

[onyx sage]

swap ninjabike for vigilance and you'll get higher tick

[silent creek]

Yeah I need to fool around with it a bit, the rpms from umbra seem kind of key especially in open world

[violet basin]

Is there a sniper with "perfectly behind you," or is it just the whisper rifle? Up to aces and 8's shenanigans

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[violet basin]

What was the name of it?

Google is.... not being helpful

[rich cosmos]

False

[magic pilot]

That's determined

[violet basin]

Yeah x.x

[magic pilot]

It's a m700 carbon

Or tact

[rich cosmos]

The sniper is called brutis or something similar

[magic pilot]

Brutus

[violet basin]

Oh..... right that one. That isn't gonna be a great warehouse answer for aces

War hound*

[magic pilot]

It's decent

[violet basin]

They are a slight plague for my aces build and was looking for an answer to chunga/warhound

It's looking like a decoy with the whisper atm

Or my SVD with behind you on it

The whisper is hitting some RIDICULOUS numbies tho

Might actually be able to better utilitize it with friends

[lyric prism]

My friend My love My killer My death.

ever seen flies at a lightbulb? yea.

makes Space Admin funny.

ignore the guns, it was whatever.

[hexed steppe]

swap empress to mask and add btsu to oc the decoy 😎

quite the interesting bug zapper you got there

[lyric prism]

mask? didn't think about oc'ing the decoy heh

[hexed steppe]

yeah, empress glove to mask. btsu oc gives it +250 threat 😍

[lyric prism]

ah ok got ya

[hexed steppe]

doesnt do much for the duration but your arttficer will oc as well for a short time

@onyx sage , werent you doing some sort of decoy build a while back with rigger? how did that work out?

[onyx sage]

it's a meme build, pls don't use it

[hexed steppe]

fair

[lyric prism]

oh I did use it

it made for giggles.

[mild loom]

pvp or legendary?

[hexed steppe]

not a meta build or anything but i like the concept 💯 .

[hasty sluice]

pve.
havent done any legendary content yet tbh

[lyric prism]

yea this does work better.

[hexed steppe]

go open world and pull every npc within a 10 block radius 😂

[lyric prism]

so far.

[hazy steeple]

3 BT heavies and a single pack of Outcasts?

I swear there's a plague of miniguns in the LZ lately. Every corner.

[shy willow]

Could be worse

Could be west side piers

[hazy steeple]

"at least you're in the open air"
I know, too niche.

[lyric prism]

the BT are running up, meleeing and running away to cover.

they just keep coming.

[hexed steppe]

save this for a reanimated event and go troll mode in matchmaking 😆

[hexed steppe]

lmfao

[lyric prism]

I now have a dog patrol.

[hexed steppe]

roughly how long is the decoy uptime

[hasty sluice]

it heavly depends on your skill tier

[lyric prism]

idk, its only down half way, been out here 8 minutes?

[hexed steppe]

its stacked with an artificer increasing the time

[hasty sluice]

correct

[hexed steppe]

thats nuts

[lyric prism]

well it went back up.

actually that is the life remaining. so not sure it has a timer.

so its skill tier?

I need to find more.

[hexed steppe]

artificer hits are adding 15seconds each hit. if it was on your back you would get 15secs back every 10 seconds

[lyric prism]

so its infinite.

[hexed steppe]

thats too funny

[keen meteor]

Literal flytrap build

[hexed steppe]

the true afk build. turret and drone got nothing on this 😍 .just tuck away somewhere where nothing can get you, setup, and afk for a couple hours

[lyric prism]

almost could until the heal ball runs out of charges I would think

[hexed steppe]

could leave it stowed and be close to the decoy

[lyric prism]

that would be glorious

didn't seem to work

so the decoy broke. I hid again, survived, redeployed and they went right back to the decoy.

yep, I managed to just get some more.

[shy willow]

Infinite decoy?

[hazy steeple]

The Mantis is looking over its newspaper and rolling its eyes.

[lyric prism]

lel

[hexed steppe]

at least you can plan your oc and get the hive back really quick before decoy breaks, or oc to immediately get your decoy back

[lyric prism]

guess I'll try the opening at DUA.

ya

[hexed steppe]

really is almost infinite

[digital cypress]

How is Unhinged now for LMGs, versus Killer/Frenzy/the other damage talents?

w/ the big attachment buffs, seems like unhinged might be useful

[lyric prism]

I'm sure having 8-10 npc gold bars beating away would be about it.

[lyric prism]

Unhinged is not bad and easily dealt with using the named Petrov chest so whatever you want.

with the changes to Pesti sort of negates the need.

you could run a red TP/Pesti setup like old setups and have some fun.

or some of the new brandsets are good for an lmg but Pesti/ND is what I usually use.

[digital cypress]

TP?

[lyric prism]

True Patriot. hasn't gotten buffed and is forgotten but a good group buff set.

[keen meteor]

Toilet Paper

[lyric prism]

I usually run this when I want to play with an lmg:

guns can be anything really, its just the chest.

[digital cypress]

Really dumb question... what's the blue colored gearsets?

[hazy steeple]

@digital cypress Colour-blind mode turns Gearsets blue.

[digital cypress]

and that's the named petrov chest?

[lyric prism]

Yes

You can craft it

[digital cypress]

Remind me again what the talent is on that

[hazy steeple]

While in cover weapon handling is increased by +50%

That's a solid reload/accuracy/stability/swap buff.

[keen meteor]

Yes

[shy willow]

Oh they buffed braced neat

[feral dove]

whats a fun build for open world solo pve besides the headshot hunter build? XD

[solar sable]

mortar

[hasty sluice]

ongoing directive lmg.

[feral dove]

oh is there a build guide

[hasty sluice]

I personally dont have one but im sure you could find one

or ill just make one real fast

[feral dove]

what should i search specifically on google XD

[hasty sluice]

the gear set is called Ongoing directive

[feral dove]

oh found one

[feral dove]

this good for solo heroic openworld stuff? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFXnhF3XUFM

[hasty sluice]

seems like it would. I enjoy it with lmgs for the funny bullets but on going can be use for anything

[hasty sluice]

this is my setup I use https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EzC0YBlBGUDZRSYly2IFwA5wtrEVI9NDYBSGeUAdhOIYgwBZ9ndZ6viyxLPGg0oX5CxSFpWbJoAZhxyEcmoww0BNAKzjUGbvoxwMATh1Ng+1EA

[hexed steppe]

Youre officially converted , welcome to the dark side
🔥😈🔥

[shy willow]

[hasty sluice]

i need to make a mortar build but i keep getting sidetracked

[feral dove]

thanks mannnnn

[hexed steppe]

You definitely do. If you have a turret/drone afk build, it's easily swapped to mortar

[hasty sluice]

I do not have those

I do have a very very funny hardwired cluster mine spam build tho

[hasty sluice]

very much would love to see yours

for now i eepy tho

[dull ermine]

Hunters fury

[hexed steppe]

Just know this is all about squeezing as much damage as possible into the build.
Expertised mortar boosts the numbers a bit.
But full cap stacks and combined arms procced, 10mil mortar hits.
Fully stacked and overcharged, 13mil mortar hits.

Unicorns
Yellow sacrifice
2x yellow grupo

If not wanting to use btsu gloves, use yellow contractors.
Perfect combined arms/perfect glass.
Tech support/ perfect shock and awe are strong talent alternatives, but a little lower damage.
No matter what chest you use,you want glass.

Non unicorn would be china, 3 empress, wyvern, and either btsu/eletrique/2nd wyvern/ or utility brand if preferred

[hasty sluice]

Yellow sacrifice
💀

[hexed steppe]

The grupo were harder to farm 😂

[hasty sluice]

my luck with sac is awful

[hexed steppe]

You could also use the hw set you have and use mortar as your feedback loop proc

[hasty sluice]

lamo

yellow contractors for the extra dmg to armor is a wild idea

idk why I didnt think of that

[hexed steppe]

Kinetic momentum got buffed this season iirc, and is an option. You just half the boost everytime you're on skill cooldown

[hasty sluice]

ill use kinetic till i get a yellow sac.

well I have a new build to work twards.

[hexed steppe]

Yup, I like btsu better because if gives me some options for boosting team and resetting mortar cooldown instantly.
I do have a contractors version where I use oxi instead of hive for something like the end of regular tidal with the sam sites

[hasty sluice]

ngl was thinking oxi already

[hexed steppe]

Make sure you give yourself time to get used to the slow travel time of the mortars. Once you get its timings down you can get pretty surgical with your strikes

[hasty sluice]

bet

thank you very much for the build and tips. ima start working on it sometime tomorrow

[hexed steppe]

I main it a lot, it's good with the seasonal modifiers, particularly requital. It doesnt cause reflected damage

[hasty sluice]

💕

[warm thicket]

Im running a anti pulse dps build for Dz
3 piece yhaal gear Total
1 piece yhaal with vigilance
1 fen with pulse
Coyotes mask
fox's prayer
Nemesis
Crit crit for most have 1 max headshot roll on gear and crit DMG on mods
46 crit chance for nemesis
51 crit chance for ar
I like the honey badger, carbine 7 and police m4
any help ¿

2 blues and 4 reds I'm exp 20 atm

[marsh river]

uhh.. what happens to overclocked decoy? lol

[fresh fox]

more threat and health

[stiff jasper]

The only thing you need help is your AR, choose a gun which you love, or choose a gun which is better

[warm thicket]

@stiff jasper I'm gonna end up running the Honey badger, feels good, great weapon handling good accuracy and dps is a top contender.

[naive osprey]

What is the PVP meta right now pls?

[fresh fox]

bighorn or something

[warm thicket]

Big horn is a great choice but you need to hit headshot apparently it's hard for pvp players lol

[tulip charm]

It shouldn’t be that hard since bh has less recoil than before.

[hearty forge]

Looking for vague build advice. Not sure if I am changing my whole build yet but just thinking about my secondary gun. I'm a hard skill focused build running the capacitor as my workhorse, secondary is emeline's guard. Better options these days?

PvE only, don't pvp at all

[shy willow]

a shotgun with in sync or something

[stiff jasper]

It is not a difficult thing if you can aiming head
If you play fps like Stephen William Hawking, then it's hard

[shy willow]

the mop is pretty good

[wise swallow]

full legal name with capitals damn

[hearty forge]

Got a somewhat godroll six 12. Maxed damage, damage to armor, and headshot damage. Thinking about replacing the headshot with something but the perk needs replacing too I think

[dreamy valve]

Use Brazen lol

[onyx sage]

so true

[lyric prism]

is the ND backpack still meh after the buffs to it?

[versed summit]

It was never meh

[lyric prism]

which one am I thinking that was, OD?

[versed summit]

There’s a lot of bad backpacks tbh, but I don’t think any were buffed

[slow depot]

Hi, i recently got ravenous and have been trying to make a build for it, any idea's on what to run it with? Im trying to due darkzone or open world

[onyx sage]

it's really been a momento since they got buffed

[versed summit]

Sir

[rich lotus]

We gotta kill this guy fr

Recently getting back into game after lengthy absence wondering if there's an easy bighorn build to farm. I hear it's getting buffed? Thx

[tulip charm]

It already got buffed. And you can just throw it most dps build

[rich lotus]

Most of my builds are Striker. Was just looking for something a bit different

[wary stag]

What's this named LVOAC doing in Assault Rifle Category?

[lyric prism]

thats...different.

[mint axle]

There is an imposter among us

[lyric prism]

funny name for a funny gun.

[rich cosmos]

It is weird thats its a lvoa in the ar category

[lyric prism]

its in the name.

[rich cosmos]

How is it partially leveled up? Its not in the game is it?

[wary stag]

I just donated Resources

[rich cosmos]

Ah

[lyric prism]

i'm guessing a Rikers drops of some kind given the name.

[rich cosmos]

Im betting its gonna be dropping later in the season but its just weird considering its a lvoa

[lyric prism]

yea but its a legacy sort of extra. Lexington being the Rikers mission in TD1.

[wary stag]

Maybe they'll do something like The Harvest? Add more fire rate for the cost of dmg?

[lyric prism]

love your LVOA

[mint axle]

I think we shouldn't be surprised at this point, the chameleon is a vector but is programmed as an exotic AR.

[lyric prism]

or just giving us an AR in the form of an LVOA with some perfect talent to throw a bone.

[mint axle]

Or the sharpshooter sniper that isn't a sniper rifle.

[lyric prism]

that just makes it worse.

[magic pilot]

The Gila guard chest is still under the wrong name too

[dreamy valve]

I keep getting confused with the AUG being an assault rifle

And not an SMG

[tulip charm]

Its both technically

[versed summit]

But it’s based on a very not real version of the Vector that’s chambered in 5.56 or maybe. .308?

[keen meteor]

DARPA went ham on it, thats the lore explanation lol

[naive osprey]

I'm looking for a build that does not rely on stacks and has hazard protection. Any ideas?

[versed summit]

For what content?

[keen meteor]

And what purpose too, i assume some dps build

[naive osprey]

DZ and general content preferably

[versed summit]

There’s a hazpro build in the pinned spreadsheet’s PvP guide

That one is an SMG build, if you’re more interested in a HSD hazpro build I can find one though

[keen meteor]

SMG: Ouroboros, DtooC third attribute. (available only through incursion)
Mask: Ceska brand chd/hazpro, chd mod
Chest: Uzina brand hazpro/chd, chd mod unbreakable talent
Holster: Sokolov brand hazpro/chd
Backpack: Uzina brand hazpro/chd, chd mod adrenaline rush talent
Gloves: Uzina brand hazpro/chd
Knees: Ceska brand chd/hazpro

[versed summit]

i think it's a little overkill on hazpro now, even without watch.

it might be able to run catharsis or coyote's now

[keen meteor]

i would probably drop sokolova for ceska and run catharsis

[versed summit]

There’s definitely a lot more flexibility in how to build it now

[magic pilot]

I can update that for you

[keen meteor]

I think the listed setup is good as it presents the idea and an easy build to make, but obv the individual can adjust to what they need

[versed summit]

it's just overkill now

[keen meteor]

very

[versed summit]

it's just wasting hazpro

[keen meteor]

but surely people dont just blindly copy a build and make changes on their own, right?

[versed summit]

depends how much you understand the game and the build

[keen meteor]

🙂

true

[marsh river]

Cant tell what i like more for umbra pve build, strega or rifles
strega is doing significantly better dps even without the buff

[keen meteor]

Honestly assault rifles in general have always felt like they performed better

I am generic though and will always use black market AKM with strained lmao

[rich lotus]

Can't decide on a Pve bighorn build?

[magic pilot]

Pve bighorn? Not worth using

[versed summit]

It’s only worth it for headshot builds, so for PvE it’s not really worth it.

I am surprised more people don’t run it as a secondary on Hotshot headhunter builds. If you’re using nemesis or Regulus it makes sense, but I typically only see Elmo’s or just high end weapons.

[dull ermine]

To me the only advantage bighorn serves in pve is the reload speed and ability to go semi auto with rifle damage for enemies that are peaking and hard to hit

[solar sable]

I might have gone insane

[hexed steppe]

Dont worry, you're in good company

[winged vine]

With Ravenous being full auto now, what would an ideal build look like for maxing the damage on it?

Rifle & weapon damage, critical, explosion damage?

[onyx sage]

explosive damage doesn't affect it. the other 2 as you mentioned do

[fresh fox]

the rng damage gun

[shy willow]

dark winter

[onyx sage]

best boss killer gun

incredible for 1v1

[fresh fox]

rav is more rng

every primer must crit

[shy willow]

I didn't even know primers could crit

[fresh fox]

that’s why their damage is so different all the time

[slate folio]

Is there any build advice for Scorpio?

[solar sable]

HF

[slate folio]

I think my RNG is good right now

I just got another exotic
It's called Pestilence
A LMG

[dreamy valve]

relegated to secondary weapon use

[mighty pelican]

Is bread basket on a MMR like G28 or SVD worth it? The new 55% boost seems pretty good

[slate folio]

hm?

[dreamy valve]

You always want to headshot all the time so Im thinking not

Something like an Artist Tool might be more efficient than those lower powered MMRs

[fresh fox]

no

[dreamy valve]

Ive tried the SVD, the full auto kicks way too hard for me even with decent handling

[warm thicket]

Anyone know a good 1vX build, I understand that there's skill involved, I'm pretty decent so even if it's a all headshot lmk plz

Pvp builds

[stiff jasper]

Hazard hsd, with bighorn or eb, also regen or no regen, depends on your play style

[warm thicket]

I was thinking oroborus with Regen and incoming repairs with the catharsis mask

Also I think perfect clutch might work too

I don't like hz pro builds I still wanna do dmg

Everyday Carrier would be a big bonus too cuz belsone and The talent

[shy willow]

Headshot builds don't need crit so the other slot is free to slot in things like hazpro or regen

[warm thicket]

@shy willow would headshot be good in the other slit for a headshot build

Slot*

Wouldn't that make it hit harder¿

Im usually dps or support

[versed summit]

Incoming specifically doesn’t work with catharsis

Perfect clutch is kinda mid in my experience.

Everyday Carrier is very strong.

[versed summit]

Headshot in both slots?

[warm thicket]

Why would the catharsis have incoming repairs? And no if I had Regen and headshot

[rich cosmos]

Because it deploys heals?

Its not insane to believe it would work

[warm thicket]

That's what I'm saying

[rich cosmos]

Oh

[warm thicket]

I'm open to ppls opinions tho

I need a better backpack

But that's what I'm thinking

[versed summit]

It’s stupid. Regardless it doesn’t work

[warm thicket]

Crit DMG with SMG and armor Regen and incoming repairs to make my catharsis stronger

I would have to do my research and ask some people to believe it @versed summit

[onyx sage]

just take damage in the range so that you are at 0 armor and the cloud drops

you'll see it heals you to exactly 50% armor no matter what

[warm thicket]

I'll definitely try that out rn

I feel like it helps it but I think I'm tripping lol

[onyx sage]

you have to ignore the flat armor regen amount

catharsis has it

[warm thicket]

Your right I looked it up and found multiple sources supporting your statement

I appreciate the help

So what should my last piece be then

3rd GL for the 10% armor ¿

[versed summit]

That’s not a bad option. Should probably ho Česká to make up Crit tho

[cloud laurel]

There are some old vids that explains about incoming repair

[warm thicket]

I'm at 59 cc

[versed summit]

What’s your crit damage

[onyx sage]

if you consistently use your heal chem (assuming it actually is heal chem) then r&k and catharsis' incoming repairs will be worth, otherwise the bog standard 3 gila 2 golan 1 belstone is the staple regen

also weapons in regen are often either bighorn or backfire

[versed summit]

Typically if you take catharsis, you take matador as well.

For regen specifically

[warm thicket]

My CD is 115

I'm gonna run adrenaline rush in another gear piece

[versed summit]

Does not seem like it should be that high 🤔

Regardless it would let you drop CHC and replace with crit damage elsewhere. Tbh though regen crit isn’t very strong, typically these are run as HSD hazpro or HSD regen

[warm thicket]

I got crit DMG rolled on everything but kneepads and catharsis mask

I can drop CC for more CD

[versed summit]

Sounds like you have a solid ratio.

You just want a 2:1 ratio of CHD:CHC you can multiply possible combinations together to see what gives you the highest number.

[warm thicket]

So if I take off my cc for cd I would be at 41 cc and 139

For my oroborus

46 CC and 129 CD for my vector

I probably take 1 cc if for cd

[solar sable]

(reference, please ignore)
Rolls are Repair skills and Skill Haste.

[spark valley]

Uzina bp is named backpack for perfect opportunistic, but if ur just fully focused on heals rather than support, could use an Alps backpack with safeguard, and run one of your guns with reformation @tardy kayak

Also coz getting The Setup bp with repair + haste can be pretty hard if u dont have blueprint

[tardy kayak]

ah ok thank you.

much appreciated

[coarse violet]

Are non special tank builds good for overall raids?

Like a tank build without a full set effect

[junior surge]

Yea, personally I run high end builds everywhere that I tank.

[sullen sun]

Is flatline better dmg now w Stryker since the AR’s got buffed?

Compared to Obliterate

[hazy steeple]

Flatline is a Weapon Damage Talent, Obliterate goes on a high-end Chest.

[hexed steppe]

Flatline has always been strong. Usage really depends on if running tech and the weapon has a long underbarrel. You also lose a bit of chc dedicating the rail to the laser.
It can impact oblit since it's based off critting to stack the bonus. You would need to balance the build to get correct chc. Range testing your crits with flatline compared to whatever highend weapon talent you may be considering will give you a clear view of best option. Just make sure you're considering the actual crit hit damage values and not the range dps meter.

[hexed steppe]

Forgot to tag 👆

[sullen sun]

Spotter/Flatline sry

Compared to Obliterate/Optimist

[tawdry flare]

You are stuck with technician or a skill like pulse/spotter drone while Spotter/flatline(1.151.15=32.25%) will net more amp vs optimist obliterate (1.081.20 =29%) the later has more qol and versatility

[winged vine]

Is a Fenris Spotter better than Heartbreaker chest?

[fresh fox]

no

[winged vine]

Thx

[frosty inlet]

guys

whats the meta build rn?

[hexed steppe]

Depends on use.
Are you looking for dps, skill, healer, status, or 1shot sniper builds?

The pins have a spreadsheet with all the general builds listed

[urban latch]

for what

[worn mango]

the one

[shy willow]

I mean there isn't really any one that's totally the best for absolutely everything

[onyx sage]

but i thought those guys have the solo everything god mode never die build

[gentle lichen]

There is

[shy willow]

unfortunately red stricker dies in two shots

[onyx sage]

two shoots*

[shy willow]

💀

[stable dragon]

i made my own first skill build with drone and turret and its just op even the sniper 2 shots the hostile

[sullen sun]

Thoughts on optimizing this

[tulip charm]

Currently the best way to run od

[sullen sun]

No obliterate?

[tulip charm]

Chest is better

50% amp goes hard.

[sullen sun]

Amp with Sadist?

[fresh fox]

without

sadist is more added on

i don’t remember the exact amount

[tulip charm]

30%(35 for carnage) so 80(85) ig

Im smooth brain when it comes to math 😭

[molten thorn]

Would this work well with pesti as well? Ive been using the vedmedysta chest or whatever and the gift i think (perfect vigilance) with 4pc OD

[hexed steppe]

must be talking about mortar

[sullen sun]

No bc the armor pen rounds cancel out any gun with an element tied to it

[sullen sun]

Same

[hexed steppe]

pesti doesnt have a specific ammo to overwrite

[tulip charm]

Pesti can work with od

[hexed steppe]

it would work on od, just note that the pestilence debuff wont proc as a status

[tulip charm]

Idr if hollow point affects pesti ticks

[molten thorn]

Yeah i have banshee pulse for that

[fresh fox]

@onyx sage do you know i remember you mentioning something about it

[hexed steppe]

i think its the team wide buff that pesti uses, and the additional *damage from the chest is not... if i been reading the chat right anyways

but could technically glass/vig +od, should have pretty strong ticks

[hexed steppe]

once you have hollowpoint rounds probably wont even have to banshee that much

[molten thorn]

Just tryna find out if perfect braced and vigi are worse than wicked, coyote, and the od chest. Wanna make this build the best version of it

[hexed steppe]

probably want to work in contractors, pesti scales with wd and dta from it

kinda wondering if it would be worth using glass/perfect glass + vigi tho. because pesti would scale off the amp. afaik it ignores the additional damage from the chest... im gonna have to put something together myself. od is one of the few sets ive never built

[tulip charm]

Im going 3 lengmo since I have a red backbone I want to use

[onyx sage]

yeah, the base 20% boosts pesti ticks, OD chest doesn't tho

[cloud laurel]

My pestilence build with vile mask + OG bp. Vile mask give me 95k dmg to enemy and the bleed 100k dmg and pestilence fully stack 850k. The goal is to spread or shoot as many enemies for the debuff on them

I like this build especially carry or plvl to 40, I named this build “plague DoT” and enjoy the DoT killed them. With the pestilence buff stacking is no problem

Can use this build with 5 directives and play as a support or solo it doesn’t matter because it give infinite ammo to team mate or self

[frail roost]

does Pestilance with Striker will good build ?

[cloud laurel]

I’ve seem many using striker with pestilence so I guess?

[hexed steppe]

no, striker doesnt improve the ticks

[cloud laurel]

or just personal preference

[hexed steppe]

its regular bullet damage is affected , but the damage ticks are not. which is kinda the point of using pesti

[cloud laurel]

With striker, pestilence rpm is 1k so stacking DoT isn’t hard but it’s fun to play with just not enough dmg

[fresh fox]

you heard it here first guys!

[cloud laurel]

What’s your base dmg on pestilence?

[fresh fox]

5

[fresh fox]

but od…

[magic pilot]

Base dmg? Or dmg with cores?

[cloud laurel]

Base weapon on your pestilence, ik highend with brand have higher DoT than green set

[cloud laurel]

Can’t see anything beside your setup.

[tulip charm]

Bless me with lengmo knee and holster 😭

[onyx sage]

bro is flexing all red backbone

[tulip charm]

Where's yours?

[onyx sage]

only have a hsd and skill haste one

[tulip charm]

You get those alot in countdown

[onyx sage]

what's countdown? never heard of it

🛏️

[cloud laurel]

I slept eat sleep in countdown for 1 week to max my expertise and ofc not 1 week

Best place to lvl expertise to 15 and extract max stats

[magic pilot]

Without glass or unstoppable force it's 169k non crit and 401k crit

[jolly knot]

is there a hybrid build with Aegis by chance?

[magic pilot]

The gearset is kinda weak atm

[jolly knot]

how come?

[magic pilot]

The way agro mechanic works

There's a hidden "threat level" tied to agents and deployed skills, like turret, decoy, etc. and the gearset doesn't do enough to get enemies to focus you

[jolly knot]

only time I remember threat level is that it existed for division 1 mainly for the surpressors

[magic pilot]

Yep still in the game now, it's what makes tanks generally pretty weak

[jolly knot]

you got any build ideas for heartbreaker?

[onyx sage]

look at the sheet pinned in this channel, it has a build guide for it

[jolly knot]

alr

[hexed steppe]

Decoy is best aggro tank in div2

[prime jay]

Should I use meneto or coyote mask for Strega striker build

[dreamy valve]

Do you guys think Provocator + Aegis will be useful for raids?

[fresh fox]

not at all

[shy willow]

What's provocator

[fresh fox]

35% dr from targets within 15 meters

so useful right

so hyped for the hunters fury clickbait with it

[shy willow]

Honestly that doesn't sound entirely garbage

[dull ermine]

Funny enough with one of the short range modifiers all it will do is negate the damage debuff

[hazy steeple]

This a gear talent or gun talent?

[dull ermine]

Chest talent

Exotic chest

[hazy steeple]

Ah, yeah the loss of ceska or even sokolov (if you really want), seems like a bad call.
Plus it leaves out Obliterate.

[dull ermine]

I feel like it’s good for pfe builds

[hazy steeple]

It seems like a weak justification for nerfing your own damage.

[dreamy valve]

get rid of the range limit and itll be better

[hazy steeple]

What's replacing the lost damage?

2 potential sources, or 1 source and a stat buff in the case of Ceska.

[dreamy valve]

youre trading damage for survivability so probably that

[hazy steeple]

Memento exists, I feel this piece is just a worse version of that.

[dreamy valve]

I feel the devs are too scared to make better exotics, I knowbthey can do better

[shy willow]

I can see it being used on pfe

But that's already a very niche build

[hazy steeple]

If you make a better version of Memento, I feel enemies will just spontaneously explode whenever you get within 3km of them.

just cut out the middle-Agent.

[shy willow]

We got centurion and strega so I mean

[dreamy valve]

Memento could always be adjusted, surprised that they havent, but I guess its pretty balanced as not many players use it over something like a Vigilance. If you remove the range limit on the Provocator talent then maybe someone can consider it as part of a niche build that doesn't require stacks to proc

a tri core chest piece could be interesting

[hazy steeple]

Memento's biggest downside has always been that it relies on cqb play, and that you have to physically go over to get the trophies.
If you are running the right build for it, it's very much an excellent choice, but you do need to be in with the right playstyle.

[dreamy valve]

I still do value memento as the exotic piece that I go to for most content with that all said

[hexed steppe]

memento already perfect imo, super strong with the right build utilizing most of its ability. as a straight survival bag, i would also just take vigilance tho

[dreamy valve]

memento is my identity, as it fits so perfectly into my main playstyle which is cqb bruiser

most pug players I group with also use Ninja bag more than either Vigilance or memento though

[hexed steppe]

i basically use it anywhere i want dps and skills like jammer pulse/oxi/gunner pulse/emp to have a bit more umph . or artificer/shield stuff

its funny seeing ninja over memento when you consider the terrible unlocks its usually facilitating 😆

[dreamy valve]

Im guessing the percieved value seems more apparent and immediate than ramping up to max stack buffs over a period of time

[hexed steppe]

everyone is worried about the ramp up. too bad a lot dont realize after that point its 1 trophy every 5 minutes. hell if doing open world/mission stuff you could keep it buffed the entire session if you avoid safehouses

[keen meteor]

memento is my savior for solo play

[shy willow]

You could even run memento on headhunter if you felt like it

[magic pilot]

thoughts?

[molten thorn]

has anyone figured out the odds of getting the Habsburg pieces with the correct talent as well as HSD/Weapon Handling?

[molten thorn]

why single pieces of the gearsets? are their 2 piece bonuses worth using them over brands with similar perks?

[wise swallow]

Id suggest 1 piece striker instead of Brazo and 1 piece tips instead of gloves

And scorpio sucks, deconstruct it and use merciless

[wise swallow]

Joke

[shy willow]

1 in 20000 or something

[hexed steppe]

swap the chest out for skilltier picaros and get another free yellow core bringing skill tiers to 5, 6 with pistol in hand.

[magic pilot]

what the are you saying lol

legendary healer btw

thats same amount lol

[gilded flicker]

I havent played in a couple of months has the meta changed at all?

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

Nah jk, check the pinned builds

[gilded flicker]

aye , i saw the spreadsheet was wondering whats the highest dmg build atm

[magic pilot]

For dps nego with bp or striker with chest and bp

[gilded flicker]

whats bp?

[magic pilot]

Backpack

[gilded flicker]

and for weapons?

[solar sable]

F2000, Famas, Elmo's maybe

Elmo's got a little nerfed but eh, it's not a big deal

[gilded flicker]

oro got dummied i assume?

[solar sable]

Not at all, it still works fine

But it's not top anymore

[gilded flicker]

ah so top is famas and f2000, gotcha

[solar sable]

Just the best AR's

[gilded flicker]

ty

[hexed steppe]

dont mind me, brain rot has set in hard. 🤦‍♂️

[elfin talon]

whats the best crit builds

[flat remnant]

lexington?

[charred fractal]

The ctar and PDR are pretty much the same as the famas.

In fact they beat it for sustained damage

[flat remnant]

is cold relations any good now

[restive vortex]

I’m really struggling to maintain stacks on heartbreaker/striker sets. Can anyone recommend me a good build that doesn’t rely on building stacks? All the builds on yt that I’ve found just talk about striker or hb lol

[flat remnant]

make your own by experimenting

[restive vortex]

I have like 50 hours idk what I’m doing lol

[flat remnant]

i use emelines guard with a crit damage setup

[prisma vector]

Hey there, returning player here. What's the best AR build right now (most damage for solo pve player)

thanks 🙂

is Striker still the best ?

[patent fossil]

Ongoing Directive, coyotes and ceska wicked backpack with a sadist weapon is a top option now, no need to stack like striker

[prisma vector]

for real ? damn

gotta watch some youtube vids, thanks

oh yeah thats the switching build, looks fun

[patent fossil]

Striker will do more damage at top end (200 stacks) but for solo you won't be reaching that very often

[prisma vector]

I got bored of stacking striker marks tbh

might be good to build another ar build, has been a while

[magic pilot]

Striker obliterate still stronger too

[prisma vector]

the only way to get the new holster is by paying the pass ?

the centurion thingy

[fresh fox]

no need to pay

[prisma vector]

how come ? it says i gotta be lvl 29 on the pass

[magic pilot]

You can get it in open world as well

[magic pilot]

Yea not premium

[prisma vector]

ohhh kk

thanks

[jolly knot]

is it optimal to create a hybrid build with Heartbreaker set

[versed summit]

depends on the hybrid entirely

[jolly knot]

is it a weird choice to try 3 armor 3 weapon core

[versed summit]

no

4.14 HB AR Bruiser (TechTank)

this is a good one

[jolly knot]

so many numbers

[versed summit]

just helps you know which stats to take. but if it's easier you can just focus on the center and work on the pieces first

[jolly knot]

i managed to roll a ceska mask with 4.8% CC and 15% weapon damage is that alright

[versed summit]

that's pretty solid

[pastel crane]

Since I'm going all in for rifles, any builds in mind I should look out for?

[versed summit]

OD, Umbra and 2pc/3pc Zwiadowka Sp. z o.o. or simply HE seem to be the ones worth trying now. ND is still great too

[pastel crane]

2pc/3pc Zwaidowka sound enticing

[versed summit]

it's pretty neat tbh, I've yet to put something together yet personally though

[magic pilot]

This is a pretty good template

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ATdjct7JyupcW_jVCI69KLqJIrWeao9uUdTgPui7suw/edit?usp=sharing

I was curious what the difference between HE and Zwiadowka Sp. z o.o. was.

It's actually pretty close.

also I don't have an eagles grasp so I can't get the right reload speed.

[tame kettle]

Any ideas how to make this better

[patent fossil]

Check the drone turret build guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[versed summit]

it would really be better with just an Empress International bag with combined arms or tech support.

[true tulip]

Do you guys really know which items are behind the pictures? 😂😂😂

[rich lotus]

You don’t? 😂

[true tulip]

Not really hahaha. Wasn’t ever in endgame that long before I stopped. Can you guys give me a direction on what I need to look at? It’s not a set what I can see

[onyx sage]

they're all high end brand sets

except the mask which is coyote's mask

[true tulip]

Ah thought it’s in teal when it’s a set

[onyx sage]

well there are gear sets and brand sets

[true tulip]

What’s the difference

[onyx sage]

gear sets have a special talent at 4p

brand sets have more generic bonuses at 1, 2 and 3p, and have 1 more attribute per piece

[true tulip]

Can you send a screenshot of a brandset item pls?

[versed summit]

they're also different colors

[true tulip]

Aah so you will go for 2 different sets in your build and not just one

[onyx sage]

well you also do that with gear sets

[true tulip]

Ok just lvling up now to understand it better, started new char on steamdeck

[onyx sage]

don't worry about it for now and play through the story first

builds only matter at endgame

[cloud laurel]

Turret and drone isn’t good anymore, play HW with china chest with GC and waveform. You can boombayah in legendary and be support.

[true tulip]

What’s the abbreviation hw and gc?

[keen meteor]

hardwired

glass cannon

man my wifi is terrible what is this message delay

[cloud laurel]

I’ve tried grupo chest with skill dmg n haste and GC so reroll to tier and pair with china and ninja bp but the CD isn’t there for me. With the HW bp, u get infinite CD so throwing seeker mine just as fast as you can but with the grupo there is a 5 sec delay or so

[magic pilot]

Being generous with 20% hsd lol

[magic pilot]

Ofc lol, I've seen a ton of builds so that helps

You can figure out what people are going for

[versed summit]

lol that's fair, it's just what I default to

[magic pilot]

It's not bad lol

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the build. You could have 5-6 different brands on a highend build as long as there is synergy

[fresh fox]

umm how did you max the picaros how do i max mine out

[molten thorn]

Might be an old screenshot

[mint axle]

He got two weapons at 25, probably from the vanguard season.

[molten thorn]

Oh i guess the easiest way to tell is no seasonal modifier segment at the top of the ss

[hexed steppe]

yep, as mentioned above, it is a pre nerf screenshot

[fresh fox]

ummmm ok whatever cheater.

[rich cosmos]

What?

He just explained why its higher

[fresh fox]

yea right.

i know he’s lying because he wants to hide his cheats.

[kindred mango]

Sarcasm hehe

[agile solstice]

does anyone have any recommendations for secondary/sidearms for a diamondback crit build? I'm just getting back in after 4 years away and I don't know what is good now

[hexed steppe]

that extra 5% is a game changer 😂

[fresh fox]

whatever liar.

cheater.

[shy willow]

We all know youre aimbotting sir

[fresh fox]

don’t take the liars side

[hazy steeple]

I don't know if this is an extended riff or not, but either way: it has no place in #td2-build-advice

[fresh fox]

i asked a simple question and they gave unsuitable responses for the question at hand

[autumn yacht]

sidearms are largely useless

[shy willow]

There's only a select handful of good ones

But the ones that are good are pretty good

[magic pilot]

Kard with sledge, orbit, or D50 with finisher

[agile solstice]

was just wondering if there were any that has like passive buffs or smthn cause the one I'm using gives +1 skill tier but it's kinda useless for me

[red island]

thats the best sidearm you can get tbh, take it whenever you use a skill to make it a bit better

like for rez hive if a mate is down, so you still have 1 charge left

otherwise the shotgun sidearm

but its not awesome

[shy willow]

Bee, regulus, and mosquito are great in their own ways

[fresh fox]

orbit the goat now no?

d50 is not so great anymore

[magic pilot]

Oh true

[rich cosmos]

I cannot stop thinking about how the lexington will be for builds

Praying for it to be a higher damager higher recoil stat change

How was harvest farmable? I never bothered to unlock harvest

[fresh fox]

it wasn’t 😌

only had 1 chance at one a day and that was because it was bugged

but it circumvented the other big

it’ll drop from hoarder now

they made it so it didn’t at the time, but the project chain was bugged to keep getting more projects to get it

[hexed steppe]

so i messed around in the range with OD pesti , and it looks like the bleed ammo amp doesnt apply to pesti ticks.
tested with and without bleed ammo and max ticks were 980k regardless .

[rich cosmos]

Ah

[hexed steppe]

how do you figure? there is no way to boost picaros wd attribute. ig you didnt understand that saying it was a prenerf screenshot, i was implying that it wasnt possible in the current season. its also in the patch notes about picaros being nerfed. named item speacial attribute always been locked regardless, so i dont know how you expected to optimize it .

[rich cosmos]

Tbf, currently there is a bug to optimize it but I think its purely visual

[onyx sage]

he's been meming, btw

[fresh fox]

yup. cheater edited a patch note to try to save himself from cheating allegations.

[hexed steppe]

wasnt even aware

[fresh fox]

give up we know you cheat.

[rich cosmos]

You were told to stop by a mod

[fresh fox]

my question was never answered.

[rich cosmos]

Yes it was

[hexed steppe]

what question?

[fresh fox]

i think i wouldn’t be asking it again if it was.

[solar sable]

@hexed steppe ↑

still. nonsense accusations

[rich cosmos]

You don’t, its a visual bug that its not maxed

You can even optimize it but Im pretty sure thats a side effect of it visually not being fixed and even if it does anything it will get patched out

[hexed steppe]

👆

[solar sable]

eventually yeah

[rich cosmos]

The 10% weapon damage is meant to be the max

[fresh fox]

whatever you say.

we still know the truth.

[rich cosmos]

Its stated by the devs in the patch notes

[fresh fox]

sure thing

[onyx sage]

bro is accusing the wrong people...

[solar sable]

You just have nothing else to argue about so you just avoid every statement.

[rich cosmos]

-gets told the answer
“No”

[fresh fox]

the cheaters orbiters are out to play.

[solar sable]

rotor blades has aimbot

[fresh fox]

big dog compton sniffs out the truth though.

[solar sable]

I can tell by his legendary runs

[fresh fox]

he’s next on the chopping block dont worry

no one is safe

[onyx sage]

💀

[solar sable]

even though he clearly misses some shots sometimes

[rich cosmos]

Hes baiting

[fresh fox]

yea he does that to throw people off his trail

[onyx sage]

"uncle, why is this speedrunner stickying the sky"

[fresh fox]

but if you look closely you can see the truth

[hexed steppe]

welp, good luck dude 👴

[fresh fox]

it’s to lower the end score screen accuracy it’s ok we know.

[onyx sage]

duh

[solar sable]

rofl this dude

[fresh fox]

mad?

sorry for being the truth guy.

[solar sable]

No? why would I be

[fresh fox]

exactly.

[rich cosmos]

Stop interacting, its bait

[solar sable]

let's go get a beer shall we?

[fresh fox]

why would i do that 🤔

[solar sable]

I've been out of tune about some new stuff, but eh, I'll get there

Did the season xp bug already get patched?

[fresh fox]

yea

they made more stuff give seasonal xp to somewhat compensate iirc

so like priority objectives always give some

things like that

[slate folio]

i check the spreadsheet but i still dont know what type of extioc is good for pvpve

[versed summit]

Depends on the build

[slate folio]

i only have three excotic weapons right now. pestilcence, Sweet dreams and scorpio

[onyx sage]

exotics aren't must-use btw

don't disregard high end because they're not exotic

[slate folio]

i still dont much atm about builds and stuff

[onyx sage]

think of what builds you want to run first, the weapons come after that

[slate folio]

yeah i was only checking exoics rn

[onyx sage]

well-tested builds are in the pinned sheet in this channel

[slate folio]

the same spreadsheet?

[onyx sage]

ye

[slate folio]

im on my laptop rn so i can check the sheets more better then my phone

[slate folio]

the red, yellow, blue and hybrids and others part of the sheet right

[onyx sage]

ye

[slate folio]

i pick one from each area? or just one zone

[onyx sage]

for pve just make striker

worry about pve for now. and there's a guide specifically for pvp

pvp and pve builds are very different

[slate folio]

the gear i have atm is 4 hunter sets and chemar backpack, and cherished

im in the summits rn i was gonna farm for weapons

[onyx sage]

refer to high end pieces as their brands, like ceska backpack or grupo backpack

[slate folio]

if im going for this build do i need to change my weapons?

[onyx sage]

no one really calls them by their names except if it's a named item

well read up what weapons they use

it's all in the guide

[slate folio]

ahhh alright imma go read it rn

[slate folio]

replace chemar and Cherished woth these two whenever i find them?

[solar sable]

I'm gonna be playing for a bit, mind if I give you a hand?

[slate folio]

sure. im probably just gonna farm for a striker set tho in summits

[sullen sun]

Is this a decent backfire build?

If not can someone link me one if you don’t mind?

[mild loom]

I'd like to look at one too

[red island]

i had one before, but its before the buff

i was heavily investing in hazard protection

idk if thats still good enough

[cloud laurel]

Is this pvp or pve?

[sullen sun]

PvP

[sullen sun]

Oh that build? I think it’s for pve

It’s a Rogue Gold build

[cloud laurel]

I have a similar setup with 2 yaal mask and holster, belstone chest 1 ceska n cavalier

[sullen sun]

Yours is for PvP?

[cloud laurel]

100% hazpro abt 1.8M armor 59% CC 144% CHD I think

Yeah pvp and for pve I just full stiker and no hazpro

[sullen sun]

You use striker for the backfire?

With no haz pro?

[fresh fox]

just use like gunner or something

no need for haz if you just armor on kill through it

in pve

[urban latch]

I just can't see the backfire being worth it in pvp unless your just jumping people farming landmarks.

[sullen sun]

I do that a lot actually

Farm I mean

Didn’t it get a buff?

[fresh fox]

yea but you still have to stack it

idk having to stack it up like every fight isn’t that great imo

[sullen sun]

No different than stacking anything else

[fresh fox]

but the stacks only last 10 seconds

[urban latch]

Your also losing a ton of damage to run haz pro all the time, instead of swapping to it when you know your going against a hazard user

[fresh fox]

striker stacks last longer

[cloud laurel]

Yeah but mine striker is full blue core and Armor regen with memento and using mod for close range dps

[fresh fox]

so it is kinda different

[urban latch]

you dont really need to worry about haz pro vs unsuspecting landmark farmers

[sullen sun]

Do you mind sending me that build?

[cloud laurel]

I can tell you now

I used, striker 4 pieces: mask chest holster glove, 1 belstone with CHD and All blue core with all AR and 1memento bp

This setup with passive mod liability, impatient and RET

I know players will laugh or you but I can ensure you that you will outdmg most players or don’t believe me just add me on Ubisoft and I’ll show u how it done even in legendary as well 😉

[dreamy valve]

If they let me, I would have 7 blue cores to go with that build

[cloud laurel]

IGN: same as my discord add me and we can compete dmg and see the result

[warm knot]

Lmg builds still the same?

[cloud laurel]

Idk much about LMG dmg build but I’m enjoying my skill dmg dealt build for my pestilence

[warm knot]

Pesty skill build... what?

[cloud laurel]

Vile mask, a chest that give 10% LMG with GC rest are OG, reroll attributes to status and enjoy the DoT

Run a mission with other players and the summary said skill dmg dealt so I guess it’s not a dmg build

Really fun build but not for legendary

[hasty obsidian]

with pfe on top you will facetank anything

try improvise instead of belstone

[cloud laurel]

Lol I’m not a tank

Run with me with your best dps we can do legendary competition

[urban latch]

Ill take you up on that lol

[magic pilot]

I'll also go for that

[versed summit]

Lol

[hexed steppe]

Why vile? Doesnt interact with pestilence, talent damage is a debuff and not status

[patent fossil]

Someone get dien in as well, I want to see a damage-off on all the legendary strongholds!

[cloud laurel]

Add me ign same as my discord but im working atm

[hexed steppe]

Ig no reason for vile then? I'm also afk atm

[onyx sage]

am i not retired?

[patent fossil]

Surely we can tempt you back out for one last job? Those always go well

[onyx sage]

my retirements only last 5 minutes because of this

[magic pilot]

The world needs you most rn

[livid mesa]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKhAsA2EAGFbUfegXGOU1YQB2AVi00ouwE4CIi58qXqlpVRXvqxQOYFIT2S5+hYZJbY4AuFxjBii8sGBJpIqdi3cdOqTl0ogA is this a good build?

[magic pilot]

Yea its pretty solid

Go with one more crit chance roll

@livid mesa

[livid mesa]

Alright

Always wanted to give my boy pestilence a chance

[fresh fox]

in terms of pesti nego contractors should be better no?

at least tick and transferred damage wise

[magic pilot]

Maybe but you'd drop 2 more chd rolls

[hexed steppe]

contractors probably better for the tick over coyote. plus dta gets a double calc on transfer

[fresh fox]

that’s what i was thinking

i don’t think the loss of coyotes is worth it in general though

[magic pilot]

It'd be pretty close

Contractors drops 34% chd

[fresh fox]

i remember in an ikia video it was close when using another lmg

idk play around with it i think

[magic pilot]

I'll do the calc when I get home

If someone doesn't beat me to it

[wide copper]

Could any one share a DZ build? with good dps and some blues?

[urban pollen]

With all the new buffs and nerfs... Is there a current list of the best DPS or overall best builds to run The Incursion? Specially trying to go for flawless. Any help, tips or pointing in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.

[fresh fox]

nothing has changed in the incursion

[urban pollen]

Striker n Healer all the way?

[fresh fox]

there’s a case to be made for backfire over ouro but it’s whatever

[fresh fox]

yea

[urban pollen]

@fresh fox Gotcha! Thanks!

[magic pilot]

Check the pinned guide

[magic pilot]

Are you working with a group to get flawless? I know of some people who can probably help you

[urban pollen]

@magic pilot That would be amazing!

Im on PlayStation.

[magic pilot]

@urban latch is more than happy to help!

He just told me in dm

@proud slate

[magic pilot]

@urban pollen you have one other person that can join?

Or Raucey

[violet basin]

Raucey is an amazing individual. High skill player, insanely knowledgeable for builds. Overall just amazing to play with

[solar sable]

I wish I was ps or pc to play with these guys

[magic pilot]

You wanna join up

[magic pilot]

I basically built a pc to play with Raucey, Souless etc

[violet basin]

Am at a doctor appointment atm, but i only have a ps5.

Otherwise I would in a heart beat

[magic pilot]

He's on ps5 dw

We can run it later today?

[violet basin]

What exactly am I signing up for prod XD

[solar sable]

Flawless Incursion I think

[violet basin]

I need to rerun INC to shake off the rust, I am not confident enough to flawless it.
I got builds that could probably shred it, not regulus efficacy but slightly better than last season strikers stuff

As honored as I would be to try, am just afraid I would let them down by dying from lack of practice.

[urban pollen]

@magic pilot Im on my own right now.

I have experience but I do have another friend just wanting the Oro.

[violet basin]

That i could join for and throw them it

[urban pollen]

Im the one with the Flawless itch.

My PSN is just as here.

[violet basin]

Just don't ask me to heal it. (I don't have the set anymore)

[urban pollen]

@magic pilot Yeah, we can try to run it when ever you guys can. No prob.

[violet basin]

I also sent a request, in case I am somehow able to help

[urban pollen]

@violet basin Added

[magic pilot]

I can heal for it, Raucey will probably have enough dmg to clear the bosses

[violet basin]

He bringing that spicy STRK regulus combo? I might reassemble mine if that's being used. Still got the pieces but NO ONE ever wanted to follow through

[magic pilot]

Up to him

When I was doing speed we did contractors/DCH with reg but I think harvest is stronger now

[violet basin]

I don't have that one sadly.

[molten thorn]

What perk should i be running on a high end AR for a striker build?

[solar sable]

Strained maybe

[tulip charm]

Depends

[molten thorn]

I'm looking to grab a honey badger later today because i like the gun and it's apparently in a good spot rn.

[red island]

its not bad

[jolly knot]

what is usually a good lmg build

(brand set) gun (high-end/Exotic)

[red island]

i guess striker

normal dps build

[jolly knot]

ok but what if I wanna run something involving (lmg brand gear set)

[red island]

wont do as much damage

[junior surge]

You can run 4pc striker, ceska obliterate chest and contractors.

I often run it with coyotes though, be ause it deals more damage against non armored targets like chungas and dogs. For solo play I put on some blue cores and replace coyotes with a palisade piece.