td2-build-advice

[rich lotus]

The proc is basically permanent tho unless you actually just suck and miss every headshot

[onyx sage]

assume i'm very bad at headshots and only go for bodyshots, is it still worth running?

[rich lotus]

erm..

I mean I was testing it on a HSD build lol

hmm

prob could still keep the buff active

[onyx sage]

it seems at least proccing the buffs just take longer

i'm thinking of running crit aces with sig 716

[rich lotus]

Actually yeah if you only hit body shots that will delay the 2-4x shot proc by a lot

[rich lotus]

Can confirm body shot aces is giga slow but I dont expet you to be a body shot demon

Surely a headshot or two in there...

one you proc a 2-4x shot buff you have to shoot once more before you can flip cards again so it's technically 6 shots to proc a buff, not 5 like the description says

[onyx sage]

hmm...

sounds like i should just run high end...

[clever merlin]

OD chest worth running now?

[onyx sage]

definitely

[clever merlin]

what's a good pestilence build? does it use 3 lengmo?

that can also work for other lmgs

[magic pilot]

@clever merlin

[clever merlin]

cool

guessing i can choose between mask kneepads or holster for it right?@magic pilot

and this for pve too

[magic pilot]

Sacrifice, backbone, contractors and coyotes are all locked to those slots

[clever merlin]

i don't think I need that much damage

I don't like using glass cannon too

[magic pilot]

Glass is the best talent for pestilence

[rich lotus]

😬

no bro use intimidate and cover to cover on firewall spec to get bonus armor 💀

thats the tech right there im telling u

[clever merlin]

also for OD builds is sadist or vindictive better?

[keen meteor]

nah 3 piece stryker with ninjabike and 1pc lengmo

[rich lotus]

sadist cause who cares about ur teammates they probably all rocking a Dark Winter so they dont need more CHD

also wouldnt rely on vindictive to bring your own chc/chd higher

[rich lotus]

striker does not buff pesti stacks unfort

[magic pilot]

Vindictive is too low to be useful

[keen meteor]

Yup, truly sad

[magic pilot]

I think it used to right?

[clever merlin]

k sticking with sadist thx guys

[rich lotus]

I'm not entirely sure... I would assume it did

[magic pilot]

TP pestilence was meta in dz

[rich lotus]

I remember when pesti would trigger True Patriot white flag healing 🥹

good ol days

[hexed steppe]

i dont think striker buffed pesti at all, at least from the time they initially buffed striker

[magic pilot]

Before striker buff I think

[clever merlin]

is od backpack even good?

[rich lotus]

there are much better options

even if they buffed bleed status effect base dmg I doubt its ever worth running

[clever merlin]

cause im using perfect wicked

[fresh fox]

nope

[rich lotus]

yeah thats fine

[fresh fox]

frick bleed.

[rich lotus]

yes.

[tawdry flare]

OD chest is better now with 50%

Than the bag you can run something like wicked with od

[fresh fox]

ceska wicked

then it’s chill

with like coyotes or something idk

[rich lotus]

NO guys I figured it out. Run the new named bag with P. Versatile so that you can SWAP TO YOUR OTHER WEAPONS FASTER TO GIVE THEM OD AMMO

Someone give me the nobel peace prize

[tawdry flare]

Just use the new exotic Holster so you can empty the ammo faster and on the next swap you will get more ammo

[keen meteor]

incredible, fabulous, insane just, just quite the exquisite idea

[fresh fox]

WAIT

YOU ARE FLIPPINF GENIUS

[rich lotus]

I know I cooked right there

[tawdry flare]

Versatile with the new holster

[keen meteor]

even better, all gear rolled with weapon handling

[rich lotus]

these are amazing ideas guys i think we're on to something

we're making the next Kamikazevondoom video as we speak

[keen meteor]

pfffffft

so true bestie

[fresh fox]

what about versatile with gunslinger and centurions.

think about it

thought about it? exactly.

[clever merlin]

i actually use it and its really good

[rich lotus]

how can I think about it when my MIND IS BLOWN

[keen meteor]

😱

im like

this is so good

[fresh fox]

gunslinger got buffed.

[clever merlin]

just need perfect gunslinger with 10 sec duration

[tawdry flare]

At least our builds work vs KVD

[slate spoke]

i just wish they got rid of the second line on gunslinger

[sullen sun]

Question

Where do I get this?

👀

[patent compass]

Any good weapons that I can use for the True Patriot build?

[onyx sage]

i knew you were a simp

[small apex]

Any up to date skill builds?

[spark valley]

or just sharpshooter coz ur gonna be in cover anyway

[spark valley]

i think old meta of 1pc wyvern 2 piece hana 3pc empress is still good, but i think hard wired is pretty popular rn after buffs

[spark valley]

looks like the skin from the pass, level 100

[dull ermine]

I saw some talk about the LVOA the other day, besides the handling is there anything else people are concerned about?

The M1A cqb for me I have to have the stability 40% attachment for it to be useable, but it seems to be mostly good for chungas or raid enemies, It seems to struggle with accuracy as well

[spark valley]

unless ur making a headshot build likely no point using aces

[rich lotus]

Can try the Classic M1A maybe, or the SIG but I haven't tried it yet. And yeah the CQB probably isn't the best for roaming content/missions, I really only pull it out in raids

I was really hoping the aces change would be the revival of rifles that I wanted but it's just not quite there...

or I'm just washed 😭

[gusty tapir]

So is losing 3mil damage worth getting unlimited ammo and hmm more armor?

[red island]

depends the build/situation/team/enemy/etc

[gusty tapir]

Ok! I guess ill keep that option in the bag then!

[patent fossil]

If you're one-shotting everything then not much advantage in the extra damage (if this is a hotshot 3pc vs 4pc situation)

[gusty tapir]

Yea that why I was curious. I switched my vigilance backpack to get a ninjabike. Some elite I can one tap some I can't and couldn't even with vigilance.

[patent fossil]

Prior to getting hh stacks you can always use the tac-50 if you only have elites, but it's a trade off, whatevers more valuable to you. Personally I like 4pc hotshot.

[red island]

on heroic you cant oneshot elites with no stacks

but with stack you can oneshot most bosses

but this build is pretty straightforward, if you need armor, you're not using it correctly

same if you need more ammo

like 1 bullet per npc is the lower you can go for a gun build

so go full damage

[patent fossil]

Current long range passive modifiers (especially the headshot damage one) actually do let you one shot heroic elites solo without hh stacks, and even one shot rogues with an sr-1 (with stacks of course)

[hasty sluice]

got this tommy gun. no idea what to put on it as a talent tho

[gusty tapir]

Oh that crazy. I've yet to get those modifier but working on them.
As for playing it not correctly, I was just asking if losing a bit of damage, that I can regain by maxing out my optimization and weapon proficiency, was worth the gain of 1 tier of skill plus some armor for some safety.
For that depending on what content I do can be useful.

[gusty tapir]

Here my favorite, Strained, Close and personal and flatline all depending on your playstyle

[hasty sluice]

hmmm strained might be good cause to do have a long mag. And I do tend to just mag dump with the tommy

[red island]

pb i have with rogue, is they take too long to spawn, so i lose stacks :(

[gusty tapir]

If you do that Ill switch the dmg to cover to crit damage.

[hasty sluice]

Dttooc is one of the best dmg mods.

[shy willow]

Dttooc is the best one to have

[gusty tapir]

Oh ok. I though stacking up crit damage was the best option. Good to know

[shy willow]

Dttooc is another multiplier so generally it's very valuable

[gusty tapir]

Make sense

[manic bear]

A decent pair I just started wrecking w for cqb and distance repetition and power is the KSG (prim) and either S.LAMG or GR9. (2nd)

[dawn hare]

What's the current meta skill build?

Just came back after 3 years

[patent fossil]

Check the pinned spreadsheet, it has a bunch of builds. Depending on the purpose and situation you probably want the drone turret build, artillery build or eclipse.

[slow moat]

I think in my opinion it would be really cool if the mods that you get would be maybe just a little higher or if that there was a way that if you craft them that you can craft them to a point to get them higher and all that away to use your credits that you use to purchase things in the store it would the vendors I'm honestly to be able to do that to raise your gear mods higher to level up with the gear to make the gear be more improved

[nocturne olive]

hey guys what is the new best gear set for rifle weapon dmg?

[magic pilot]

OD

[nocturne olive]

yeah? thanks

with some more pieces to help wep dmg?

[magic pilot]

Ceska wicked backpack, coyotes mask

Put sadist on the rifle

[nocturne olive]

ty

[dull ermine]

Yea I’m using classic M1A with regulus crit build and that’s just my preference atm. If umbra gained some weapon handling it would be better for rifles imo

Aces just doesn’t do anything for me because you can’t spec into crit, I mean you can but it’s poorly distributed

Same with break point, so much focus on HSD

[lyric prism]

if hsd didn't scale the way it does on rifles vs actual use, had some sort of different application, would make the sets more interesting but the only absolute use is to make Determined/Chainshot work.

unless you are just absolutely wanting a rifle/mmr setup. I like the breakpoint set for that.

[dull ermine]

I just feel like if you’re gonna go for headshots go for MMR

Rifleman will only take you so far

[shy willow]

Settle for the middle ground and embrace dread edict

[lyric prism]

I like dread edict due to the small ammo pool you have.

[shy willow]

Getting a free mag refill on headshot kills along with the stupid DPS is fun

[forest valve]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but, i'm wondering if there is any other way to get the materials for crafting set pieces other than deconstructing? I have a few pieces of system corruption, and some patterns but no materials? i thought i heard I could get stuff from descent but i dont remember i'm kind of a noob

[lyric prism]

yes deconstruction is the only way to get set components except hardwire and some other open world ones.

for system corruption I don't remember if it had an open world source or not.

[onyx sage]

nah, syscor is hard to farm for that reason

[lyric prism]

its also not the most used set.

[dull ermine]

Finally caught up on the virtuouso gearset… again with the focus on HSD

30% rof / handling 🥲

[forest valve]

yea i never heard of it, then i randomly have 3 pieces, and some blueprints and no way to target it xD,

[lyric prism]

unless you run the DZ for landmark farming, kind of pointless.

[forest valve]

thats why I wanted to try it, never went into the dz, but finally did for prio, i honestly have no iddea where i got it

[lyric prism]

named cache might have them

[forest valve]

and i'm mostly solo

yea also I tried looking up more info on farming and i swear i heard descent, i will try named caches also

oh no, its was legacy cache

[shy willow]

sysco will only drop randomly in DZ or legacy caches iirc

[lyric prism]

ok legacy cache

[forest valve]

yea, i just remembered ty for the help, guess i'm gonna learn to pvp

[shy willow]

its mostly just battle of the cheese

or who has more friends

[forest valve]

haha i know thats why i want it, i just wanna be wild, and solo

[lyric prism]

I used system corruption for farming and disappearing but a highend set with some yaahl gear works better.

[forest valve]

what do you mean highend set? like i said i'm pretty lost

[shy willow]

gold sets

[forest valve]

ahh right on, yea thats mostly what i used for years lol, finally now just toying with sets, played aces first time yesterday lmao

[dreamy valve]

I feel gearset drops should be more rare at least to give the high end brand pool better chance to roll

[lyric prism]

nah, game is too old for that.

[forest valve]

it would be interesting to see, like no targeting loot, would be a neat thought, maybe a fresh start server haha

[shy willow]

i mean this is why we have targeted loot

div1 was great and i love it but farming for anything was genuinely horrific

[dreamy valve]

We have to play more activities now other than Countdown, so gearset drops outside of them just take up drop table space

[forest valve]

mhm, i'm talking like drastic changes to the loot economy though, like imagine if a heartbreaker chestpieces dropped like an exotic?

[dreamy valve]

That’s how it usually works with other looter games for set gear

[forest valve]

but yea just devils advocate, i understand how terrible it'd be

yea, like if we got another server, maybe 2 characters where they experimented with it could be cool idk, just avoiding work now i guess thanks guys o/

[lyric prism]

I'm glad we have the stuff we have now given 3 years ago the final development stopped.

guess it helps to goof a convention speech.

[dreamy valve]

I’m using Merciless with my rifle build, and it’s pretty usable now

The handling got it under control and the global modifiers helps with the damage part

Those rifle passives basically makes any rifle into a killing machine

[forest valve]

yea, this update kinda revived the game just for me, i end up just killing myself with an ar build to reflect, so now i'm actually having to think about using blue cores etc, but yea i'm only like shd 1700 and just played on and off

[dreamy valve]

people still die to reflect cause they did a poor job explaining the global modifier system

[forest valve]

yea true, it was wild being pretty lost for a bit

[lyric prism]

positive reinforcement. also helps you plan your shooting.

[dreamy valve]

I still don't know what the other icons mean on top of the npcs, just the reflect one

[patent fossil]

If it's coloured, it's damage reduction, hockey mask icon is ignorable, the other one is special ammo

[dreamy valve]

I must have skipped some pop up tutorial explaining all of them

[forest valve]

you know where you pick your buffs? its there

[rich lotus]

Trial and error 😎

[forest valve]

u gotta hit a button for me z

shows hostile buffs

[patent fossil]

No tutorial, you just have to go hunting through the new menus to find the information

[ocean turtle]

My current build . Options or improvements I prefer red dmg build other than others

[dreamy valve]

ah so its there, ill take a look later

[worn mango]

I have no idea what just happened in a Heroic Countdown but I did 1849M damage lol

[patent fossil]

Other than the seeker mine that's pretty standard top red build. You could squeeze out a bit more dps by using the new exotic holster (centurions scabbard, on the season pass) instead of coyotes but it does require more management in terms of regular weapon swapping

The new exotic AR is pretty good too, although small mag compared to Elmo and no CC

[dreamy valve]

A red Backbone still alludes me, but once I have it, I shall be perfectly unstoppable, hahahaha!

[rich lotus]

Someone stop this guy

[dreamy valve]

Looks like they have the core dps build down, now it’s all about refining it with minor changes and improvements

Wouldn’t hurt to switch out Elmo and try out the other ARs too

[magic pilot]

Elmo is honestly still a super good option

I was trying invisible hand for awhile, the mag size is nice but the burst feels low

[dreamy valve]

I haven’t optimized my Strega to test it out against it yet either

Burnout, Railsplitter, and Shield Splinterer all feel solid as welll

[magic pilot]

Famas is a great choice still, same with f2k

I haven't personally used ctar but ikia has been using it a ton

Strega feels very meh, it needs more crit or a bigger mag to compete imo

It's annoying that Nego transfer kills don't proc the talent, so on a geatset where Strega looks amazing on paper ends up being the worst option for it

[dreamy valve]

Doesn’t work with Negotiators? It should right?

[magic pilot]

The transfer dmg kills don't proc the Strega talent

[tulip charm]

^

[dreamy valve]

Honestly I’ve found myself using strikers a lot less nowadays outside of raids and incursions, and instead slot in all high end red gear for more weapon utility

The only strikers build I have now is a 5 blue core, which works very well to get to max striker stacks a lot more frequently than an all red strikers loadout

[patent fossil]

OD + sadist is very strong now if you want an upfront damage build with minimal stacking, better than high end.

[solar sable]

not me saying it fitted anatomically

[lyric prism]

I haven't done an OD set in so long I'm not sure I have one.

[patent fossil]

Couple of countdown runs will fix that

[lyric prism]

so why is it better now? what buff did it get?

[worn mango]

Chest and Sadist got buffed

Chest gives you 50% amp, Sadist gives 30%

And then you can also run Wicked on a backpack, it's gross

[lyric prism]

i have a unicorn Ceska pack w/ composure, no rolls done, might make a good wicked pack.

ok I do have my OD setup still w/ the pack. pack looks rather good.

and a maxed out Carnage.

hrm

I wonder how OD/Scabbard works out w/ OD chest.

[vestal ibex]

OD chest is where it's at tho.

[dreamy valve]

I have both and Ongoing Directive /w Iron Lung and a High End Pestilence build, and I feel they both outperform AR builds nowadays

[lyric prism]

what I threw at the wall

laggy tablet VPN but it lets me do random things in the shooting range during the day.

[mild loom]

anyone try if OD (post buffs) holds up in legendary or not?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah it does

[lyric prism]

I can get 59% chc w/ Pesti but 82%chd bc two of the pieces are rolled cnc as well.

eh

[dreamy valve]

Why bulwark shield

[lyric prism]

the pic?

that is crusader

[dreamy valve]

Getting in close with the hive?

[lyric prism]

I tried that a couple times recently w/ ye ol' typical Striker red setup. I swapped to technician and the tech hive w/ three blue cores just to see what would happen.

it was actually doable and didn't feel glassy.

but that picture is just me throwing gear on just now.

[dreamy valve]

I haven’t really used the scabbard at all ever since ai got it. I just don’t like having to remember switching weapons to proc damage

[lyric prism]

with an OD build it doesn't seem to require much management from hitting things in the shooting range but pesti needs reloading on occasion.

[dreamy valve]

I’ve separated Pestilence into its own build, because high end can afford more attributes and talents to give it more weapon handling and reload speed, which it really needs imo

[magic pilot]

It's ok

[lyric prism]

settled on this after some random matchmaking

its fun.

going to the C7 and moving some things around chc went 59% -> 56% and chd 83%-> 117%.

[rich lotus]

Go Versatile since you have an LMG and AR 😎

Joking!!

[tame shore]

Yo not gonna lie what’s the blue kinda purple color on your mask, and chest I didn’t notice it after playing the game .. is that which one

[dawn hare]

Is pestilence regen still good for darkzone

Or is it just ouroboros fury

[rich lotus]

I’m trying to optimize a build but ran out of materials. If I make a new character do I have to level it up to 40 to have access to all those extra scavenging points? Or can I just boost it to 30 and then I’ll have access to those?

[worn mango]

You get it to 40 by any means and then you can get your watch

[solar sable]

boost to 30 and make your way to 40

[worn mango]

But you can also skip right to 30

[magic pilot]

Its color blind mode

[tame shore]

🤣

[rich cosmos]

I like the one that makes gearsets purple/lavender

[worn mango]

I apprecaite the really contrasted one

Yellow is nearly gold

[hexed steppe]

Along with the color change, it's also good for outlining the radius of hive/mortar/chem/traps/etc.

[clever merlin]

what's the fastest ny mission to do?

[fresh fox]

wall street

educated guess

[hazy steeple]

Lincoln Memorial, there's speed-runs of it in under 7 minutes.

current record is 4:45 secs IIRC.

[marsh river]

lincoln memorial is dc not ny

[hazy steeple]

Screens a bit wonky.
Yeah overall Wall Street isn't bad, but having to wait in that area kinda sucks.

[lyric prism]

color settings are changed for better visibility from normal.

[tame shore]

I was able to get help but thank you 🙏

[peak sphinx]

Not best in dmg but hella fun a 770RPM acr rifle 🤣 umbra/striker mix with the impatience modifier

[fresh fox]

3:15 now

not the original topic but like

idgaf

[hazy steeple]

....cool.

[round zinc]

4:45?

i got 5 minutes before
damn im that close

[onyx sage]

i got 4:47 myself lol, it's unoptimized af

[fresh fox]

almost 2 minutes but like that’s barely anything nowadays

[proper marten]

Anyone got a fun rifle build now that they're just slow ARs?

[peak sphinx]

Ninjabag umbra striker combo with impatient modifier. Hella fun

Not top tier dmg but high fun factor

[proper marten]

I prefer fun, will try

Rifle talent? I've got a good LVOA with Strained.

[peak sphinx]

This one has ranger but its was just a dummy gun to see what it could get rpm wise. But if you van hit the hs then rifleman is good

So dmg can be alot higher as its a 4 red only and rifle has 11% dmg only no exp lvls

[clever merlin]

i used hunters fury with memento and obli chest

with chatterbox

for lengmo pesti build I still go for crit chance/damage right?

[thorn wren]

A hard hitting, all-rounder build for those who are not yet unlocked all the modifiers.

[clever merlin]

any reason to youre not using the named backpack instead of the mask? I honestly think you don't need that much optimal range

I use this instead and I change the weapon talent to whatever suits me

[shy willow]

Ye

[thorn wren]

Name bag Liquid Engineer bonus armor is very helpful. The Swap speed also helps this build cuz you're constantly switching weapons, Optimal range makes Scorpio much more useful after the nerfs, you could also go for 1.7 mil armor.

I'm melting all types of bosses from far far away!

For Countdown, I'll change the bag to The Setup, and change the chest talent to Unbreakable or Perfect Unbreakable

I myself like to use SIG 716 because of the look.

[clever merlin]

since I play solo 95% of the time I never needed the bonus armor on kill and having so much bonus damage on swap with holster perfect versatile and gunslinger I can just kill bosses as soon as they spawn if they don't have requital or the shell thingy

countdown though I havent tried it there

mdr also has 60 base optimal range so with mask you get 90 range I don't think I've engaged enemies from that far

[marsh river]

are regen tanks any viable these days?

for lets say solo legendary

nevermind i genuinely dont believe tanking is possible in div2

[versed summit]

yep

[rich lotus]

Please spread the word cause most players haven’t realized this yet

[fresh fox]

but raids use tanks so i think it is useful actually 🤔

[vestal ibex]

And these tanks will be screaming "sniper sniper" while holding a button or screaming "shotgunner shotgunner" while just standing there doing nothing.

[onyx sage]

*they get downed*

"see i told you so agent, you need me"

[fresh fox]

it’s useful.

[edgy pier]

So for people getting started what is a good easy to gather starting AR/SMG build that will give you a fighting chance in the DZ? or is that just a lost cause for people behind the power curve?

[versed summit]

Basic PVP Starters Guide (Y6 S1)

[vestal ibex]

FYI DZs are a bit separated now between no SHD, below 1k SHD, and over 1K SHD. I'm pretty sure that how it is now but maybe someone can confirm/correct me if wrong.

[versed summit]

I think there may even be a >500 SHD DZ, and it should prioritize the highest level group member so there's no cheesing it

[fresh fox]

it’s just under 1k and above it

i spent like many days in under 1k dz because none of them know about exo comp farming 🔥

[autumn yacht]

3pc umbra 1 walker nb, perfect spotter 2-3 blues with KB and nem are my main go tos if you’re completely new

[cloud laurel]

No….!!! Why why!! It’s player references tho specially in a group and not everyone are OP like you @rich lotus !! Tank isn’t bad if you know what you’re doing.

[violet basin]

Not that it will help, because I keep running into every proficiency 26 person in pvp. Named night watcher helm for keeping pulse active constantly, closer chest for perfect variant of amped against pulse damage.
100% haz pro. Anything I should try to improve this for the pvp environment?

[marsh river]

wow thats meta af, one FI healer +2 hotshot builds, wiping through legendary summit like its tutorial

[tulip charm]

Determined gaming.

[marsh river]

yeah but with white death and FI buffs the dmg is good enough to 2 shot chungas on legendary lmao

i dunno if FI buffs even matter, maybe their dmg is already enough

havent tried it in legendary myself

[tulip charm]

My Experience rom farming floor 90 on leg with tons of directives. Having more damage makes it consistent. I can't consistently one shot with 4p hotshot and chainkiller and airaldi pack so some reason.

[marsh river]

i think ninjabike habsburg is better

most certainly more consistent

[magic pilot]

Have to open up with nemesis

Unless you kill a red

[tulip charm]

I can start with purples as long as they're snipers/purple.

[marsh river]

will i regret it if i salvage all my armor regen/tank items? my inventory is full but its all junk anyway

like they will never make tanking viable, why even collect

what do you think?

im just gonna put all of my tank items in the inventory of my alt for now

[keen meteor]

dz regen rat that steals everything

just runs in then runs away lmao

[marsh river]

heh

i forget, does protection from elite work against players in pvp?

[keen meteor]

i would assume not but i havent tested it

[marsh river]

im assuming that regen memes u are talking about only works on console, for obvious reasons

ive seen a lot of "wow u wont believe it!" vids on youtube and they are always console players with zero clue

on pc you get headshot beamed in 0,1 second whether u have 40 or 40k armor

[keen meteor]

yeah a lot of console players have very dogshit aim

the average accuracy results are usually sub 30% lmao

[marsh river]

OP

[molten thorn]

It's so dumb that serpentining is a valid strategy in sub 30ft engagements in the dz

[keen meteor]

honestly just keep the reticle centered in between their left - right motions and youll be able to adjust and land most shots

dont tell the console players that tho i like doing that

shhhhhh

[molten thorn]

I'm a console player primarily so thanks for teachin me how to get you 😈

I just started on pc like 3 weeks ago but I'm shd like 1280 on xbox

[keen meteor]

its funny when spooky nemesis user appears cause you can just action movie run towards them and they'll probably miss

speaking of console builds, i will say that a lot of people use striker w/ chest but dont play aggressive enough to even take advantage of the chest talent

[fresh fox]

no armor regen builds work on pc as well

[dreamy valve]

Dat zig zag strat

[cloud laurel]

Amen! Sorry to those who use obli but most of them cover to cover

[small apex]

Anyone got a good:
DPS
STATUS EFFECT
SKILL
Builds?

[fresh fox]

no

[small apex]

Then don't answer

[fresh fox]

nope.

[hexed steppe]

Dps -striker or nego
Status- eclipse fire
Skill- mortar highend (high damage)
or seeker spam hardwire (lower damage, fast spam seekers)
I think they are in the pinned spreadsheet with a couple variations in the guides

[small apex]

Seekers sound interesting

[small apex]

Can't find spreadsheet

[hexed steppe]

#td2-build-advice message

[small apex]

I looked but can't find the seekers?

[hexed steppe]

It's under the pin icon as well

Oic. Let me take a look rq.

[small apex]

Thanks

[hexed steppe]

It's under razorback hardwire jammer you can replace jammer with seekers. Stinger hive and btsu is a strong combo.

Personally I would use tech spec.
Perfect/regular glass chest. btsu gloves, 4pc hardwire , seeker to spam and stinger hive as skill that procs feedback loop. Btsu and pop hive to oc you and team when available

[sharp arch]

What gear set and specialization is best for pestilence

[rich lotus]

Rigger

Next question

[sharp arch]

Ok and I assume gunner for specialization

[autumn yacht]

why is it dumb ?

you want people to just stand still and fight?

[fresh fox]

please

i cant hit them if they move

[molten thorn]

From a like realism standpoint (lol realism in a video game) it's absurd. And i think it looks ridiculous

Also i can't hit them if they move compton is right

[fresh fox]

realism in the division 2

[dull ermine]

if you’re looking for gearset specifically… heartbreaker with pulse or umbra initiative

Neither will buff the damage tick passive damage overall but as an active weapon …

[sharp arch]

Ok

[rich lotus]

This is so true

[keen meteor]

use osu to aim train

10/10 strat

[molten thorn]

tried that turns out division agents don't have a circle that counts down for when to shoot them D:

[rich cosmos]

This is such a dangerous gearset

[rich lotus]

dangerous to say too bruh

gotta be careful

[hexed steppe]

ongoing directive with vigilance bag. or highend with glass and vigilance.
ticks scale from weapon damage and amps. od buffs pesti

[molten thorn]

is there an exotic armor you put in this? does vile proc on pestilence?

[hexed steppe]

spec would be preference, but gunner probably good

[hexed steppe]

no, pesti is a debuff. not affected by status

you would still need something to proc od if used. like gunner pulse or jammer

you could use coyote tho, most pesti builds have crit as well so you dont have to rely on only the ticks

memento should buff ticks as well with the weapon damage

[molten thorn]

This is pve yeah?

[hexed steppe]

yeah only pve

[molten thorn]

might put it together I'm getting sick of just strikers on my pc agent

[hexed steppe]

im no good at pvp builds

look into nego as well, not for pesti, but as an alternative dps set

[molten thorn]

is that the one that gives out bleed bullets for kills or crits or something?

[hexed steppe]

no, od is the bleed ammo. nego is about marking npcs. as you crit 1 npc any marked npcs also take crit damage through transfer

it builds just like striker. might use grupo instead of ceska chest, but the rest is same. nego bag/coyote or fox's/ oblit or glass chest with whatever brand you need more of

pairs well with rifles and got a buff this season as well

[worn mango]

OD >

We stan OD in TU22

[hoary atlas]

Uh Guys

which Gear Set already Nerfed and Buffed

[tulip charm]

#patch-notes message

[flat remnant]

Anyone think a weapon handling rifle build would be worth

[rich cosmos]

Not really

Thats practically every rifle build

[flat remnant]

I mean 10m headshot crit with it

[rich cosmos]

Ehh

The rifles that need handling badly really aren’t much better

Notably the lvoa which is practically worse after the update

[flat remnant]

I’m talking my the 1886

[rich cosmos]

I mean you already could make builds with it

Last time I checked it had fine handling

[rich lotus]

the already buffed the reload on the 1886 pretty significantly and increased the mag size

dont think ur spamming an 1886 either so stability/accuracy are just QoL enhancements

[flat remnant]

Headhunter plus determined

[shy willow]

1886 was already good now it's just better

Nice that the diamondback inherited the buffs too

[tacit goblet]

what can I build with ouro

[shy willow]

Literally anything DPS related

[rich cosmos]

I keep forgetting oreo isn’t actually called oreo

It even vaguely looks like an oreo

[solar sable]

black and white-ish

[small apex]

Need advice on Hunters Fury build?

4p hunter
2p soklov (Chest, backpack)
Chest with Obliterate
Backpack with what Talent?

Mpx
St elmo?

[hexed steppe]

probably wicked since all the disorient will keep it procced. or memento since hf is close range and synergizes well with memento

[small apex]

So not 2p soklov?

[hexed steppe]

if you want to keep the soko 2 piece go with wicked/unstoppable force. highend and memento both strong

pair mpx with scorpio and opportunistic becomes an option

[small apex]

Might go with Wicked with soklov but also forgot what special should I go with

I'll take look at options

[hexed steppe]

gunner or firewall

tech if wanting a free skilltier for a shield

[round zinc]

what does demo even do lmao

[flat remnant]

Question is it possible to get a instant reload build

[rich cosmos]

Yea its called bullet king

[mellow grove]

Running Hotshot build with a 1 hit sniper, which mods do I get? CHC, CHD, HSD?

this is for the mods

[molten thorn]

HSD

[mellow grove]

ty

[solar sable]

hsd
crits don't apply for MMRs

[onyx sage]

well it does, but headhunter doesn't benefit from it

for weapon mods you should consider getting stability mods up to 100% to eliminate sway entirely, the extra damage isn't really worth it

[solar sable]

they do but I suppose it's a very low chance for them to be able to hit a crit

[onyx sage]

yeah because the volume of shots isn't high enough

[solar sable]

fkn auto correction

[clever merlin]

HF you can do intimidate and adrenaline rush too

Wicked is too inconsistent especially on bosses unless you have someone feeding you OD ammo or something

[small apex]

Is the Ouroboros a good smg for Hunters Fury?

[rich cosmos]

Its a good gun yes

However, boring as hell

Would recommend other smgs

Pretty much any other exotic smg is pretty fun

And there are a couple really good high end smgs too

[clever merlin]

Did lady death get buffed?

[rich cosmos]

Dark winter the named vector got its talent buffed so its good

[rich cosmos]

Mod buffs Im pretty sure??

If not then I know the other two got good buffs

[clever merlin]

Chatterbox is good

[rich cosmos]

Backfire is worth using now

[small apex]

I was going to use Mpx and st elmo

[clever merlin]

Backfire with wicked and ridgeway?

Or is ridgeway still ass

[rich cosmos]

Why ridgeway

It has no synergy with bleed

And yea ridgeway is still meh, needs a range buff

[small apex]

Build I'm currently building

4p hunter
2p soklov (back and chest)
Backpack is wicked
Chest is obliterate

MPX
ST ELMO

Firewall

[clever merlin]

for the armor regen but if its still bad then maybe just sokolov with obli

[rich cosmos]

Yea but honestly its still not worth

Im praying for a range buff

[hasty sluice]

Is Umbra a decent set? I thought about making one but Have no idea what to run it with

[clever merlin]

recently got a buff and its still good just dont compare with striker/heartbreak

I like it more than those 2 cause you actually play cover shooter if you dont run a shield

[hasty sluice]

ooo fun

2 questions then. chest/backpack yes or no?
what gun types?

[rich cosmos]

Absolutely

[tulip charm]

chest yes backpack no.

[clever merlin]

for me I use the chest but not backpack

[tulip charm]

Guns no clue

[rich cosmos]

Chest is a must have, backpack is dependent

[hasty sluice]

[clever merlin]

guns pretty much anything that you want but probably not sniper or shotguns?

[rich cosmos]

The backpack does not give damage but it adds more to the healing aspect

[hasty sluice]

ah gotcha

[rich cosmos]

Shotguns do in fact work

[clever merlin]

i know but personally i don't like it

[rich cosmos]

Rifles are also pretty good aside from the lvoa because that shit is uncontrollable

[hasty sluice]

the poor lova-c lost is its crown from div 1

why did they make its recoil so much to the right

[clever merlin]

you have to stack so much stability and accuracy for it to function lol

[rich lotus]

or you can move your mouse while shootng

doesn’t need to be a laser for it to be “functional”

[quiet sedge]

Need some advice for good healer solo/co-op, full set with skills and guns and everything

[hasty sluice]

ah ha funny white death

[hasty sluice]

are you looking for a solo build with heals or a coop healer?

[quiet sedge]

Both
I'm using survivor for more healing and these healing ball gadget, solo and sometimes co-op I use the impulse to see all enemies, but I'm thinking about changing it

[hasty sluice]

new question do you want it gun or skill based?

[quiet sedge]

In co-op I wanna be a good healer so my buddies won't die that fast, skill based

In solo I wanna survive but If possible some damage so I don't need 3 years for an outpost or mission, skill/gun mixed

[hasty sluice]

alr give me a sec

[quiet sedge]

ATM I'm using 3 PCs hard wired for skill lvl and a revolver secondary for +1skill level per kill

[patent fossil]

Green gear sets like hard wired are mostly only worth running if you use 4 pieces to get the full effect, otherwise brandset (yellow) gear is better

[hasty sluice]

this is what I use for coop healing. https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwBgtAjOEW73RDlLgLgKyWrBEBsqKx6hUkuiwWJt6wA7NhUa3fGqMzG77WmXZ82nAMwBOROIAckDFggYmishlnFO+PCCZCOekQBZOh4Ry56gA

it is only good as a healer it has next to no dmg

[patent fossil]

Check the pinned spreadsheet, it has a lot of good builds.
For the coop build the future initiative healer is the top option, for solo you probably want a tech tank of some description, maybe check ikias build list (also linked in the pinned spreadsheet)

Or you could run something like umbra or heartbreaker that has healing / bonus armour built in

[hasty sluice]

for solo I have this build as a tech healer. https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwBgtAnGCM1uD5MS58Bcw5VmgrHmqsRsMJDKsFCbaQOyUV0vKbjTg1E8voAshbnFZ9gAZm4QAHDAJzG0PADY5s4pmWJOjURj0b+6aNz7RVooA

*stage left can be any gun

[quiet sedge]

Thank you guys, gonna test those setups later when I'm home

Just to be sure, you wouldn't recommend a healer set as a survivor? Only tech expert good to heal?

[patent fossil]

I'd recommend also checking the future initiative heal build in the pinned spreadsheet, it does more than enough healing while also providing a bunch of other significant damage buffs to your team, and a bit of CC via Scorpio

In practice most dps players run full red so can go down in a split second regardless of how fast you heal them, it's one-shot protection that really keeps us alive

[hasty sluice]

here is one you can run as survivor. its more a hybrid gun heal https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/KwWgjADCU9ew+8BcAWAbEscxgMxKwBMhK6is+mFpCyRJkOtLFamqNXr0ye1zbkN5E8ATjhiAHOGCgwwAOyzMCmWyLBsUMQOERk+2vT4ko6AsAlt+PGEA

[hasty sluice]

yeah I know. I just got lucky and made an almost perfect gold healer build. I am able to save people quite offten. I just need to have chem out almost 24/7

[magic pilot]

The problem is a gold healer will never be equal to FI for 2 reasons

FI gives the whole team TWD and heals more than anything else due to the proximity part of the talent

[hasty sluice]

funny healer drone go brrr

[hexed steppe]

Solo, use memento on a dps build. Memento gives 3% regen, 30% repair skills (% skill efficiency is % in all Skill Buckets™️) to your healing skills,
Bonus armor on trophy pickup.
red/blue/yellow main cores. All skills scale in some way from the skill efficiency.

Group- look into standard future initiative healer. Build is in the pinned spreadsheet

[magic pilot]

Skill buckets

[vivid shard]

what's a skill bucket?

[fresh fox]

a cool looking bucket

[vivid shard]

nice?

[onyx sage]

a bucket of skills

[glossy scarab]

i didnt think this new brand set legatus was gonna be any good but with 3 pc of it im hitting massive numbers and can hit them from super far away for an smg. im hooked on it

[cloud laurel]

Hardwire with BTSU glove as a support healer and distracted by using seeker mine and restore hive to reset the seeker mine. It work very well in legendary but the down side is that team mate has to be close by to receive the healing

With the HW bp, infinite seeker mine chasing NPC around.

[last snow]

Need advice if this build is gonna be OK or not trying new talents on chest stumbled upon a decent rolled chest piece w trauma was going to roll famas over to sadist and use fox prayer, fennis w companion and picaros holster should put about 50+ weapon damage on build w everything else rolled crit chance and damage and blue core any advice if this would be good pvp build?

[tulip charm]

No because trauma isn’t good. At that point just run ridgeway then. Something like this https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IzC0CZQZg2AZQKYly0C4Ac1aT5NVIjAFm0hjEhAOLo3AFZYZbD370SA2UEhVvSHt04EqGAxBHGcXTBs48AHYJeAb2UBOTsG6qlq4OtDdeM0SUrNgcbDezcwWtqnTL0sjF9RA

[tulip charm]

Also wicked is better than companion in your case

[hexed steppe]

Skill Buckets™️ is just a catchall term for how skill efficiency works.
Each attribute is a bucket.
Skill damage
skill haste
status effects
skill health
Skill duration
Repair skills
. So something like memento is giving you 30%+ in each bucket, also empress 3pc 10% 8% each.

[tulip charm]

Empress Got nerf 8% which is dumb…

[hexed steppe]

Oh really

I missed that one

[tulip charm]

yeah ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[iron garden]

Hello ! Is there any good guides for builds ? I'm a bit lost with all features in this game 😅

[hexed steppe]

check the pinned spreadsheet

lots of builds and guides are text + images and have a few variations to allow you to customize a bit

[iron garden]

thank you, didn't think about checking pinned comments 😅

🙏

[hexed steppe]

some of the new rifle builds going around are probably not added yet, but if you post something here someone can point you in the right direction

[iron garden]

ok ! thank again !

[sullen sun]

Rogue Gold build

Wdy all think?

[hidden dirge]

Is that the railgunner named version?

Oh I'm blind, nevermind lmao

[sullen sun]

It’s the dare?

Seems like a useless named gun if you ask me

[hidden dirge]

For the CTAR, but I saw the tribute

[sullen sun]

I didn’t think you could put the laser on the CTar

[sick plover]

Where did you get the minigun??

[hidden dirge]

I mean there's a named version of the CTAR iirc, and it's called the Railgunner I'm pretty sure lol

[vestal ibex]

Don't think contractors is worth it if you swap weapons at all. Still think LLP and shield/artty are better for HB/memento setups too.

[sullen sun]

Is that new?

[vestal ibex]

Railsplitter is super old.

[sullen sun]

LLP?

[vestal ibex]

Link laser pointer.

[sullen sun]

Agreed

Idk why he’s using ctar

[vestal ibex]

Tech spec special attachment that instantly pulses anything you point at.

[vestal ibex]

It's an alright AR.

[sullen sun]

Now it is lol

[sullen sun]

Right 👍

He said he was using gunner for the extra rounds on the LMG

[vestal ibex]

Honestly this isn't a new build and was already in use.

[sullen sun]

Yep

It’s not even very affective at that

Stacks don’t last

HB stacks should last as long as Stryker.

[magic pilot]

yea contractors with memento not worth

also dare doesnt take llp

[sullen sun]

Right

Unfortunately..

[hidden dirge]

I'd agree but HB does more with their stacks. Having them last aslong would feel broken

[sullen sun]

It should

[magic pilot]

neither does ctar, but he clearly doesnt care hes running gunner lol

[severe dew]

is the firm handshake worth using

[magic pilot]

no

[sullen sun]

I’ll give you a firm handshake son putter out there

[hidden dirge]

Any recommendations for my Virginian build? Mostly using the rifle with Bighorn as a back up, threw it together in about 5 minutes last night and it worked pretty alright

[thorn yarrow]

How do I get the hot shot gear set?

[solar sable]

Targeted Loot on Hotshot

[vestal ibex]

TL typically, via map or countdown/summit for selectable TL.

[keen meteor]

Whenever you need to get some loot, target what you need and play countdown challenging

[thorn yarrow]

Wait you can set targeted loot ?

[onyx sage]

yes

[dull ermine]

Does sledge work for groups or no

[rich cosmos]

It did, don’t remember what the rework was to it

It got a pretty significant change this season

[solar sable]

doesn't it now just work for the one who procc'd sledge?

[dull ermine]

That’s what it says but everyone sees it

[onyx sage]

still works for everyone

nerf got reverted

[solar sable]

okay sir

[vestal ibex]

Nerfed the damage % tho

[magic pilot]

No one matchmake for DUA @hexed steppe has his mortar build out

[hexed steppe]

lmao wtf 😂

done now, its safe to mm again

[sharp arch]

If I want to make an lmg build I want to use heartbreaker right?

[rich lotus]

Cause it gives LMG damage?

Just go 3pc lengmo 😎

[sharp arch]

Ok

[thorn yarrow]

Where can I get system corruption?

[solar sable]

Reconstructed caches or DZ

[thorn yarrow]

How can I get reconstructed caches?

[solar sable]

IIRC Descent

[thorn yarrow]

Oh ok thanks bro

[onyx sage]

nah, dz or legacy caches

[solar sable]

that, I didn't even know about legacy caches

[hazy steeple]

Sys Corr was an OG Season 1 item, so it's in that incredibly polluted pool.

[slate folio]

is their a build for a fixer drone? Or is any mods good for it

[hexed steppe]

most wont use fixer because its a low heals. an easy way to boost it would be running memento on your dps. use tech class for free skilltier and 10% extra healing.
memento with give you 30% skill efficiency .
skill efficiency is % in all Skill Buckets™️
so repair skills, skill health, haste, duration, skill damage, and status effects would all be at 30% when memento is charged. this will significantly boost most skills. shield is notable here as tech/memento yellow and blue core puts your shield on skill tier 3 while still maintaining 6 red damage cores

[rich cosmos]

Ima be deadass I never use skill builds I did not think thats what efficiency meant

I thought it just meant duration

[hexed steppe]

yeah, its way more. thats why i feel memento is very underrated when you figure what it actually gives

as an example i can take a bulwark from 9.9mil to just under 13mil on shield health, and artificer i can bring from 48% repair to around 60% repair per passive charge

[rich cosmos]

But this doesn’t apply to the healing of the drone no?

[hexed steppe]

it applies to all skill healing. repair skills are one of the buckets

think of it as the weapon handling of skills

[rich cosmos]

Repair skills is healing other skills tho

Not players

Unless someone lied to me?

[hexed steppe]

repair skills and skilltier determine the fixer's healing ability. you may be thinking of artificer, that efficiency is more limited, theyre not the same.

[slate folio]

Sounds very usefu and helpfull but I don't understand

[hexed steppe]

the memento + tech class healing is just like adding 2 max skill repair mods in its effect. just dont forget you get the free skilltiers that boost it further

[magic pilot]

Lmao

[hexed steppe]

i forgot to add. on top of the skill stuff memento provides 3% armor regen and bonus armor on trophy pickups. long term buff lasts 5 mins , but once memento is charged you only have to pickup 1 trophy within that 5 minutes to maintain full buff. Its definitely the single hardest working item in the game 💯

[hasty sluice]

at long last

[slate folio]

i changed my skills.. so right now I have a The Bombardier Drone and The Demolisher Firefly 🥲 (I don't really know how to use the The Demolisher Firefly that well)

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, does the chest talent from Ortiz: Exuro gear sets provide total damage or normal weapon damage?

[slate folio]

were getting real with this one 😔

[stiff jasper]

Amplifier

[rich lotus]

Fun fact: it’s a group buff

Unless it changed recently*

[stiff jasper]

Fun fact: I don't use 4 piece

[jolly knot]

what talent should i swap eyeless for?

killer?

[dreamy valve]

Close range rifle build?

[wet frost]

Been trying to craft a chest piece that has Obliterate. Do I need to focus on a certain brand to get it? I have the talent but just doesn’t pop up when I craft any chest piece.

[hexed steppe]

Boomerang

Or flatline if using tech spec and weapon has a long underbarrel attachment point for linked laser (pulse laser)

[hexed steppe]

Do you have oblit in your library already?

Generally you'll focus farming the brand you need instead of gear type. Much smaller target loot pool that way.
Talents are random, but attributes are weighted towards what the main core is. Red core likely has crit/handling/ hsd. Blue core/blue attributes etc

[mossy lake]

Anyone have a legendary rifle build or sniper build (without scoping in e.g 1886) I think it’s called that

[hexed garden]

i no join

help

[uneven igloo]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwDgtALGAMNgzHWympdAXAVi6gjAmHvOqsGktolLOYnsOac2huDRS1zBhAGyRYUJp1HoMwAJyQxs5hKzS8BPNADsRXMCh8NXCfGlRJ4PDk0azAs+HmrEiUJrh8O8rBm7ivSIA is this build good?

[dreamy valve]

1pc heartbreaker?

[dreamy valve]

I’m using Merciless lul

[keen meteor]

They’re using ninja

[dreamy valve]

Oh that’s good?

[keen meteor]

It brings it up to the 2pc bonus

[tulip charm]

Personally its bad simply because whats the point of running hb chest if you cant even activate hb talent

You’re better off just running fenris for starters and going hs based doesnt really meshes with caps strength

[faint needle]

https://youtu.be/_CxvqrBR86c?feature=shared

[vivid shard]

is cavalier a good way to counter skill/status builds in conflict?

[tulip charm]

Yeah but I wouldn’t rely on it since if you mm.

[vivid shard]

mm?

I know that there are other options to counter it, like just stocking up on hazard protection

[wise swallow]

what he said, he means only use it if you have a team with you

not randoms

[vivid shard]

like in conflict, yeah yeah

[wise swallow]

cavaliar is a selfless build, you have no actual way of winning a fight

also make sure that stack knows how to play around cava

[hexed steppe]

Depending on how you play, there are a couple skills that are real beneficial.

Gunner spec banshee pulse (disorients)

Jammer pulse (disrupts)
EMP sticky (disrupts)
both disrupts are really good on invaded missions

Revive hive
Decoy
Crusader shield

All these will be pretty strong on dps with no skilltiers.

[rich cosmos]

Wait blue screen is 200 rounds??

Wasn’t it 100 before the update

Did I miss it getting a mag size increase

[tulip charm]

@rich cosmos yeah bs is 200 mag

I think gr9 got mag buff so its now 200

[rich cosmos]

Wild

[rich cosmos]

Build Ive been messing with

Thinking of getting a belstone piece with obliterate to replace the chest

[hexed steppe]

whats intended usage? pve?

[hexed steppe]

4 striker or no striker. there is no inbetween

[rich cosmos]

Yes

I want to swap to belstone for the combo of 1% armor regen and the armor on kill

[torpid ibex]

Yes in fact I would like to put a lot on attack

[hexed steppe]

use memento and get more regen. just add striker piece

[rich cosmos]

I do have a version for memento

I tried doing a heartbreaker build but its just impossible to keep stacks up

[hexed steppe]

yeah, i never liked hb

[rich cosmos]

I meant with rifles

[rich cosmos]

I did mess with perfect glass cannon but decided against it

[hexed steppe]

im all nego . probably best out of the 3 (nego/striker/hb) for rifles

[rich cosmos]

I’ll definitely look back into it for rifles

The lightweight m4 really is fun

[hexed steppe]

its worth. nego is 😍

[shy willow]

I forgot overlord existed completely wtf

[rich cosmos]

I like it I just wish the talent worked better for pve

[rich cosmos]

I did try my build with btsu gloves but didn’t really click with it

Even used future perfect or whatever

Just lost too much damage to justify it

[hexed steppe]

did you try artist tool on that build?

[rich cosmos]

Show

Whats the talent on artists tool do?

I know its the named sig but I don’t have any in stash

[rich cosmos]

Oh

Probably a good idea to grab one then

[hexed steppe]

seems pretty stable just throwing it on my standard striker

[rich cosmos]

66% damage just from 6 headshots is pretty wild

What are its stats combined to the lw m4?

Higher damage lower rpm?

[hexed steppe]

h/o ill get a ss

[torpid ibex]

I can no longer optimize having the 15 damage assault rifle at most as I did before it was faster,

[rich cosmos]

Huh

[rich cosmos]

Because those aren’t the same thing

Those are different systems

[rich cosmos]

I assume mag size is because of a change in mods?

[shy willow]

By default it's like 20 rounds ye

[rich cosmos]

Oh jeez

[torpid ibex]

First you went to the main attributes and took the one from another, then the attribute that was at most could be put directly on the weapon

[rich cosmos]

Maybe worth it but I don’t like using extended mag on rifles

[hexed steppe]

its less mag , both +20

[rich cosmos]

You are misunderstanding it

You are optimizing

Not recalibrating

[hexed steppe]

i might actually use that artist tool on one of my own builds. side by side its a lot more stable than lwm4

[hasty sluice]

I cant pick between lwm4 or artist tbh. I like that the sig is more stable but the m4 has more rpm.

[hexed steppe]

the way im looking at it, bigger mag but also misses more so it probably evens out.

[hasty sluice]

true true

[hexed steppe]

i usually run m1a cqb, but im gonna swap in artist for a bit. i dont usually full auto rifles and it seems like it could fit well

[hasty sluice]

the m1a cqb is fun but I find its constant need to reload a pain

super cool looking tho

[magic pilot]

@wise swallow do you have the full hazpro bighorn build?

[wise swallow]

cath, yhaal, everyday carrier, pic, 2golan(or prov, fenris)

adrush

or you mean immune

[magic pilot]

What's more common?

[wise swallow]

2 golan

[magic pilot]

Probably 80% and then use mods?

[wise swallow]

oh yea, 80% use mods if your pissed about whatever

[magic pilot]

Ok thanks

[wise swallow]

80% is fine for 99% of applications but if your just completely sick of fire 2 mods

[magic pilot]

Gotcha

[candid night]

any virtuoso gear set builds?

spreadhseet doesn't seem to have new meta builds after recent updates

[flat remnant]

Would umbra int work with pestilence

[rich lotus]

what are the new meta builds

[tawdry flare]

There always has been one meta build

[glossy scarab]

for some reason with this build the impatient modifier is on and im getting the rpm and reload speed but not the 50% mag size reduction. i countered that mag cut with 3pc brazos for 50% mag size to replace it. but if i just remove one pc of the brazos and put it back on i get another 50% mag size. so im running around on super easy mode with a chatterbox w 90 rounds and like 2160 rpm.

[dreamy valve]

Artist Tool at max stacks can one shot elites

I have max handling for it and the weapon doesn’t stray or kickback with full auto

So you can headshot with extreme accuracy without a scope at 60+ yards away

Lm4? Might as well use an assault rifle at that point huhuhuh

[round zinc]

thats why its called L m4

[hexed steppe]

I had it on my nego build last night in the range and it seemed really good. 💯

I had swapped some stuff around to get good crit on it for testing, but I'm thinking if I go coyote and plan on long range use only I can do some stability mods and rely on the long chc buff to make up the defecit

[dreamy valve]

I always go for headshots to do the most damage, then weapon handling for second attribute

Ive seen 22 million headshot crit on my Artist Tool

[hexed steppe]

Nice

[magic pilot]

That's because it sucks

[chilly tendon]

hi what's the best build in dz that will basically allow me to "outrun" rogues or not get killed when farming when I don't want pvp?

[rich cosmos]

Just avoid players

If someone wants to kill you, you aren’t outrunning them

[magic pilot]

Regen

[chilly tendon]

Any specific 6 piece?

[magic pilot]

Catharsis, 3 Gila, everyday carrier, and emperors guard

[chilly tendon]

@magic pilot thanks

[karmic anchor]

What’s the best build for THE GRUDGE smg

[magic pilot]

Probably OD

[marsh river]

why? u get twice that dps with a plain striker build

[rich cosmos]

?

Okay and?

My goal is to make actual survivability with damage, I might play with survivability on aces and that other damage build I forgot the name of

[marsh river]

why are u showing dps on a dummy if u are building a survivable build?

1 blue core and and unbreakable, means survivability? i dont get it.

u have not provided any context to anything except posting a very low dps build so i dunno what else to say

i also think that unbreakable is a terrible pick in 99.99% cases. the exception being certain raid encounters

[rich cosmos]

To show damage?

The point is to do above just decent damage

[rich cosmos]

No, not really

[marsh river]

you've failed to satisfy that criteria then

[rich cosmos]

No?!

[marsh river]

yes

you will not find anyone in here who will give you blind praise for doing 15 meter training dummy 7m dps

[hasty sluice]

just learn to shmove around the dz faster than them. also decoy

[rich cosmos]

I acknowledge that I am losing damage, its just an objective fact, but its accomplishing what its supposed to do

[rich cosmos]

So run, like I said

[hasty sluice]

well you said you arent outrunning them

[rich cosmos]

It was to get the point across and you know that

[hasty sluice]

ik im just being a pain
:3

[rich cosmos]

That was obvious

[hasty sluice]

i mean guess you could run Acosta's if you are that paranoid about rouges. but like.. why are you in the dz?

[rich cosmos]

Im not

Im not the one who started the DZ talk

I am exclusively a pve player

[hasty sluice]

oh. my b

new question. how do AR's stand to normal rifles atm?

[fresh fox]

ars still the goat

[rich cosmos]

Its a weird comparison

Ars are still better simply due to rpm

Rifles have an rpm issue but that issue is also how they are balanced

[hasty sluice]

makes sense.

trying to think about what guns I want to form a build around.

thoughts?

[sullen sun]

What’s the verdict on Virtuoso?

Good dmg? Comparable to ND or Stryker?

[hazy steeple]

The alliteration is top notch.

I've not heard great things about it for builds though.

[sullen sun]

Wb Legatus? Am I missing anything?

[echo tiger]

DPS PvP still upgrading

diffrent guns tho

[tulip charm]

Pvp?

[echo tiger]

ye ive used it couple times

[tulip charm]

….

[echo tiger]

whats wwrong with ]

?

[tulip charm]

The issue is youll die before you do any meaningful damage

[echo tiger]

I mean if your in a group then yeah

But if you know what your doing then you can use it

[echo tiger]

Like i do wanna improve it abit more but i have done 2 v 1 face to face

[magic pilot]

Need at least a little armor

[echo tiger]

I do know

lol

Its scary going into dz but kinda know what to do in lil situations

[tulip charm]

Ill just give you the benefit of doubt since you’re only 119 and the majority of the pvper are all 1k

Or conflict

[echo tiger]

Hold up that’s a ss is old a lil

Creeping to 140

The. 150

I know the fastest way

[hasty sluice]

ayo this a good roll?

[tulip charm]

Would be nice to see the rest of the gun

[hasty sluice]

nah the headshot % is enough

[tulip charm]

Oh

[onyx sage]

lol

[hasty sluice]

PEAK

idk what happend but bighorn bugged me

[fresh fox]

what is this for?

[hasty sluice]

idk just a hybrid build using capactor & campanion

[wary crypt]

Do you know best rifle damage overall ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?gid=1542969978#gid=1542969978

I used from the reference above and unsure if it's pretty acurate info or not

[fresh fox]

yea its good info

[echo tiger]

The grinding never stops 👻

[magic pilot]

The pinned guide is also updated

[karmic anchor]

Has anyone did the John wick build yet

Or the walker Texas ranger build?

[magic pilot]

Is that a YouTube thing?

[hazy steeple]

I'm guessing they mean a pistol focused build, and maybe a cowboy one? I don't know why you'd pick a Norris TV show to reference there, there are so many actually good westerns.

[tulip charm]

Its 100% a youtube build.

[hazy steeple]

re: the former. Mozam w/ just generally good pieces works pretty well, I used to run that to farm Pistol kills during leagues/GE's.

[magic pilot]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwBgtMDsEwzG5EOU1CBcAmAnGALDMGPAKwAcKlaq6em+hxEI1VbItRwBBRr-VdFwZ8wJARKy94vdnOpDYMsJgJIAbOvlD1y4JhLzBoej3pJ99ffAUcJKdPcRA

@karmic anchor

[onyx sage]

but you die in 2 shoots

[karmic anchor]

I was only asking lol

[mortal depot]

Whats the best way to get maxed out gear mods, ive been playing on challenging for a year now but dont know if im ready to jump to herioc unless thats the only way

[hazy steeple]

You very much don't need maxed out mods, 80% of the way is pretty much fine.

[hexed steppe]

higher difficulty content will raise the minimum rolls a mod will have. it doesnt guarantee max but you will have higher average rolls. target farm legendary summit for higher average, or heroic cd for a lot of drops.

[slate folio]

Is this the best this Shotgun can get? "Cuélebre"

[flat remnant]

Acs 12 is my fav

[slate folio]

Is that a shotgun?

[flat remnant]

Yeah

[slate folio]

The only reason I'm using this one is because of its amazing talent

The fastest reloading shotgun

How can I tinker it or sum

[flat remnant]

Not the perfect talent no

U play Xbox?

[shy willow]

Not really

[slate folio]

Yea

[shy willow]

I guess faster reloads help but especially on a pump shotgun you wanna get max damage

[slate folio]

how can I make it better

[shy willow]

Get a different shotgun

[flat remnant]

Wanna farm shotguns ?

[slate folio]

😔damn ok

[shy willow]

Named and exotic stuff isn't always better than normal high end

It's often worse actually

[slate folio]

sure I'm on right now just about to do Roosevelt Island

[flat remnant]

What’s ur ign

[slate folio]

SliverCrow5251

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, what is the best weapon category in terms of blind fire accuracy?

[onyx sage]

as a casual gamer, it's really just the SVD

[hexed steppe]

none really. also, dont build around rugged gauntlets, they are better as an exo component imho😉

[eager cloak]

You just read my mind.

[fervent lake]

What is the best build for armor regeneration?

[marsh river]

none, they are all ass

[fresh fox]

only pvp builds really take advantage of armor regen

[hexed steppe]

any dps build where you can use memento. itll give 3% regen, bonus armor on trophy pickup. raw weapon damage. 3 cores. memento will also give you 30% skill efficiency .
skill efficiency is % in all Skill Buckets™️ . it pretty much boosts any skill you use, like say a shield/artificer combo, or some healing skills.
memento is the single hardest working gear piece in the game. also the easiest way to give your build a hybrid touch without totally making the build useless.

[rich lotus]

Is the Picaro’s holster 10% Weapon Damage attribute red line a visual bug showing 2/3 of the way and not maxed out?

[hexed steppe]

yeah. it was reduced from 15 to 10 with this season. they never updated the visual to be maxed out it seems

[rich lotus]

I knew about the reduction, I was just wondering about the visual, looks like it’s not fully optimized. Thanks

[onyx sage]

yeah the visual is just bugged

[azure kettle]

@fervent lake straight regen 3 pc Gila, 2 pc Golan, 1 pc bellstone or Emperor Guard. No stacks necessary but your build gets a bit diverse in the attributes and focus of overall build goal. If you can rack up 30 kills in the time frame on heroic your a boss. Or you can prime the stages if you have that kind of time.

@eager cloak bakers dozen or anything with lucky shot

[mental creek]

hey all i made a rifle build a week ago and it's OP it melts enemies like crazy but if theirs some pieces that you want me to replace let me know.

[tulip charm]

🗿

[hexed steppe]

mem not that hard to stack .
you dont really have to get it fully stacked in a short timeframe because each trophy refreshes the 5min times... and once stacked, its only 1 trophy pickup every 5 minutes to maintain full long buff.
going full regen doesnt really help your damage, at all.

[rich lotus]

I respect this

Don’t know if the 3 blue cores will do much for you though

You are one shot to anything regardless from PGC

Unless you play on a low difficulty idk

[mental creek]

I played it on heroic.

[rich lotus]

I would try replacing the mask and gloves with red pieces. I bet you won’t see a difference in survivability

[mental creek]

I rather balanced it.

Thanks to the modifiers

[magic pilot]

You have glass cannon though

[hexed steppe]

what are the weapon stats (crit/hsd), and what do you see for body shot crits/head shots

[mental creek]

Crit chance and damage.

[mental creek]

Perfect glass cannon.

[hexed steppe]

grab a ss of stats tab at top

[rich lotus]

When people build around PGC it’s usually all or nothing— 6 red cores or don’t run it all

[mental creek]

Which talent is better than Glass canon then?

[hexed steppe]

if crit is good, oblit can work . spotter also good with tech class pulse laser. glass is gonna be more damage, no doubt... but youre taking the risk using it without getting the max damage out of it

[rich lotus]

If you have to spec into survivability then it doesn’t matter if PGC is the best talent

Could also just run 3pc Ongoing Directive with your Ninjabag

with the OD chest

[marsh river]

bro this is funny

i take blue core cause i want to survive, so naturally i also take glass cannon to compliment my survivability

🫡

if u are running rifles with ninja, you should seriously consider 3p umbra or 3p aces with 1p ziwadnasdfdadfsdfasd + something else, like overlord or whatever

its incredible that u are SHD level 2k and not understand how trash this build is

[marsh river]

lol flip me off all you want, doesnt change anything. hard truths are part of life.

🫂

[autumn yacht]

you seem unhappy in life

[patent fossil]

Lets just steer clear of personal attacks all around, shall we?

[marsh river]

where's the personal attack?

[patent fossil]

this is pretty direct

it doesn't add anything of use to the conversation, but to make the target feel bad about themself

[marsh river]

im sorry, i guess i am too old to understand this snowflake bullshit. give him the participation award then

[glossy scarab]

well it is a good rule of thumb to leave your feelings at the door when you come to the internet

[patent fossil]

I doubt he actually took it particularly badly, I am mostly just attempting to head off an escalation

[glossy scarab]

yeah def

[marsh river]

if ur feelings get hurt because of the order you arranged some pixels on a video game you have bigger problems than me typing some words

[autumn yacht]

the division 2 build advice channel isn’t for the weak..

[glossy scarab]

for a long time just mentioning ninjabag would get you reamed out a bit

[rich lotus]

You think that has changed?

[marsh river]

the important bit is that randoms in the internet should not have the power to affect your mental

[urban latch]

If you want to give advice, give advice. If you want to just dunk on someone, thats just for you

[glossy scarab]

modifiers have made some ninjabag builds pretty damn viable is the way i see it

[rich lotus]

The goat has spoken

[marsh river]

the changes to brand bonuses ..

[glossy scarab]

yeah that doesnt help. good point

[autumn yacht]

ninjabike is a pretty defining piece in pvp rn

[rich lotus]

yeah for the 10 people playing pvp

[marsh river]

like ceska being nerfed down to 8% crit chance, and with the inherent roll of 6% ur looking at 14% crit chance.. so in the instance of running ninjabike, u can put 1 piece of nego for 15% crit chance and its better than ceska..

i am not necessarily advicing you to do exactly this but if u stack the correct piece bonuses , ninjabike is significantly better now than it was prior to these nerfs (and buffs)

[hasty sluice]

always has been

[autumn yacht]

wouldn’t say always has been

[urban latch]

always been overrated

[marsh river]

i am always in favour of things like ninjabike + whatever, than for example vigilance which is conditional. i dont enjoy the sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit effects. even if they are very often online like vigilance, id rather take a 100% uptime but less potent effect

[hasty sluice]

i was referring to div 1 lol

[autumn yacht]

predshee my beloved

[rich lotus]

final measure 😭

[urban latch]

I was talking about doom

[hasty sluice]

god bless we dont have the nade spam that was div 1 pvp

final measure by beloved

[marsh river]

im pretty sure habrsburg 1p with ninjabike does more dmg than vigilance backpack, for hotshot

[hasty sluice]

I think you are correct on that. but that also needs you to have the correct rolls for hapsburg.

[marsh river]

yes, which is not easy to find

but all u need is 1 piece so not bad

[hasty sluice]

true

[marsh river]

weapon handling and headshot probs is what u want

[glossy scarab]

this build with these modifiers (plus a bug with the 3pc brazos+impatient modifier that gives me 90 rounds when i should have 60) has made heroic easy mode and i never run low on ammo. also its like 2160 rpm

[hasty sluice]

atm im looking for a PS chest with obliterate + cc/cd

*for my striker

rng isnt being kind

[onyx sage]

did you test or did you just look at brand bonus for habsburg for this?

[marsh river]

hehe all that for some mag size :>

[hasty sluice]

my setup atm

[glossy scarab]

also 3 skill tiers and a bit of armor which im not used to having. which is why it feels super easy probably. also no reload

[hasty sluice]

the coyote becomes catharsis if need be

[marsh river]

yeah brozzers ninjabike and engineer is pretty nice, kinda free skill tiers. but idk what id use those tiers for in that build

except for a more stonks shield i dont see the point

why not just go for some extra raw damage instead

[glossy scarab]

im using them for defender drone bc its a close range build only. so i use that to close distance

[rich lotus]

get ignored buddy

[onyx sage]

yeah i'm calling bullshit on that

[marsh river]

no i dont have a correctly rolled habs to test it yet

[rich lotus]

i think its hard to beat 25twd on a hotshot buuld

[glossy scarab]

i think 740k body crits is plenty of damage for my purposes

[onyx sage]

yeah no brand bonus weapon damage and total weapon damage aren't the same

[marsh river]

i know

[onyx sage]

so vigilance still beats it

[marsh river]

bit if ur soloing with decoy..

[onyx sage]

we're still assuming vigilance active

then vigilance still beats it

if not you might as well use safeguard

[rich lotus]

YES SAFEGUARD

I love Safeguard

[onyx sage]

reassigned on backpack when

[rich lotus]

Perfect Reassigned please