#td2-build-advice

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onyx sage
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then idk why you would want to make the build you posted, if you're aware of how defender drone won't be useful, that's a higher bar to clear than knowing that the build you posted is just worse than HE red

hot gale
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I keep revisiting that gearset, need better examples of gameplay usage to understand it

onyx sage
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i'm just trying to see how the build you posted would be any different than HE red but worse

hot gale
versed summit
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Tbh I’d probably recommend looking at iKia’s guides if you’re looking for a plethora of different builds to try. He has a bunch of builds and they are pretty solid and typically will fill a certain niche

hot gale
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This guy was in a raid i was in btw so this is how i know

hexed steppe
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really solid in target rich environments but lacks the single target damage for really tanky stuff

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plays a lot like he red, but you just have to be mindful of your marks

onyx sage
# hot gale Its something different and it is different, and when i looked at the stats i wa...

it is different, but it's also not worth making, as getting that high into crit damage means you're losing out on other damage opportunities like damage to armor and dttooc. you have too much crit damage basically in that build that trading some of those attributes for others will yield higher overall damage.

going in this direction ends you up at HE red anyway.

if you want to talk about how certain builds work and why they're strong, especially why the builds in the sheet are the most recommended to people, of course you're welcome to discuss. i'm elated to talk about how stats work

hot gale
hexed steppe
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6 red. all crit rolls

onyx sage
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just crit

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nego loves crit (and dta)

versed summit
onyx sage
hexed steppe
hot gale
onyx sage
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but for most other content yes

hot gale
hexed steppe
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no ramp to the damage

onyx sage
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because ads in raids are so squishy that you don't really have a chance to stack

hot gale
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Every raid i was in demanded strikers over the old dps meta gold build

jagged marlin
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What about running pgc, vigi and strikers

hot gale
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Only 2 raid leaders demanded the old meta

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Thats the whole reason i trashed my gold build because everyone except those two raid leaders demanded strikers saying if you had rock n roll to build stacks you can dps all the raid bosses faster than the golds

versed summit
onyx sage
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how often are you at 100 stacks on striker in raid?

hot gale
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Could only get in them if you had strikers for the dps role

versed summit
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Well yeah, if they’re demanding it I’d say they’re silly little goobers

onyx sage
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sorry to say that but you got gatekept by dumb people

hot gale
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Raid “FTCs” are generally toxic in my experience so far

onyx sage
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either is fine, if you have either you can bring them in, but to exclude you from running when you have HE red is dumb

versed summit
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Strikers is fine for the raids, and excels in certain places, but HE works very well too.

hot gale
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The only chill raid leader was in the gcrock discord

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He genuinely didnt care and that’s how i found this guys build which i have never seen it built this way

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So it intrigues me

versed summit
hot gale
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First time clears raid leaders

onyx sage
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oh boy

hot gale
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The guys that says they are helping FTCS

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But then are passive aggressive or just straight up blow up on you if you don’t have something

onyx sage
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wait, so they haven't run the raid before and they're leading?

versed summit
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You ran with Robbo3639 by chance?

hot gale
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Or did soemthing wrong

hexed steppe
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i always liked he red in the few raids i did

hot gale
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Its not exclusive its different people

onyx sage
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ah ok

hexed steppe
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but i was always an he red dps anyways.. until i fell in love with nego 😍

hot gale
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The ftc according to one leader is meant to signal they are helping FTCs

versed summit
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Most Raid leaders I’ve seen have been pretty chill and pretty cool about onboarding people. There’s not a lot of point in taking ftcs, if you’re just going to crap on them, just don’t take FTC’s lmao

hot gale
versed summit
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Yeah that’s fair

onyx sage
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there definitely are, not just in raids

hot gale
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Theres one ftc guy in here but i can’t name him because of rules

hexed steppe
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console probably a lot different then pc community

versed summit
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LegendaryFTC?

onyx sage
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people who say "no carry needed" then bring terrible builds into my legendary matchmaking

hot gale
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He tried to force me to remake a HE build in order to join a raid

hot gale
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Bruh

versed summit
hexed steppe
onyx sage
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(LegendaryFTC is my alt, he's just poking at me)

hot gale
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“Thats cool man he tried to force you? Gnarly!”

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I told him that i was told that strikers is the meta and he basically made it a point that if i don’t make that HE build can’t join his raid, which is pretty much is right up there with the raid leaders who eventually got me to comply with making a strikers build

onyx sage
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i still remember once Raucey joined me on incursion lfg by accident and asked me "why do you keep carrying these people"

versed summit
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Your weakness is you care too much

hot gale
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Is there another brand piece besides wyvern that increases skill damage for 1 pc?

onyx sage
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no

hot gale
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Alright is vile mask even worth putting on a eclipse build? I have it but i swapped to a electrique mask paired with golan and i see much better performance but is it generally better? Also how does the status effect buffing aspect of vile work?

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It feels like it did terrible sidekick tick damage

versed summit
versed summit
hot gale
versed summit
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Survivalist gives team amp, fire chem is irreplaceable, and stinger hive lets you have another damage status since you can’t double light people on fire.

hot gale
livid mesa
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Planning this ravenous tank build, any hint? (Ignore the shit editing 😭)

livid mesa
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I forgot the name but i remember the icon

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It's a defense + damage build

hot gale
livid mesa
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Resurgence is dead to ubi

hot gale
livid mesa
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Also when texas division

hot gale
livid mesa
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Jesus Christ it's lowkey 20 p

hot gale
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Btw whats the best dps rifle ingame rn? Still m1a classic with boomerang?

livid mesa
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What does the shield item do

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That set piece

hexed steppe
hexed steppe
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boomerang, if using tech class flatline is also strong .

jagged marlin
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Doctor home

hot gale
jagged marlin
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Yea, but issue is the forced scope

versed summit
scenic hornet
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Hi guys, recently i found that myself suck at hiding and shooting, can say no skill at all

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So i found this set

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The peak dmg i got when max stack is 700k per bullet, but i think i can get more if i change the backpack to a better one and change the holster to hearbreaker one

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What do you guy think 😄

livid mesa
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Hold up

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Maybe try getting more stacks with the busy bee

strange wedge
livid mesa
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Also change the glove core

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I'd say

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I mean better damage better it is

scenic hornet
livid mesa
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If you're going to change backpack use ceska

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Ceska with that thing

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I forgot

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That one talent that when damaged it reloads for 4 seconds

scenic hornet
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yeah i plan to use ceska but what talent you think?

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does oliberate talent have on backpack?

livid mesa
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Nope

scenic hornet
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Damm

livid mesa
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Try vigilant

scenic hornet
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Okay thanks

livid mesa
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This one talent

scenic hornet
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ohhhhhh

livid mesa
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Use it with ceska, it's good

scenic hornet
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okay

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okay thanks, dammmm, more damage

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Heartbreaker dps build so nuttt

livid mesa
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Not guaranteed by me but by your experience

scenic hornet
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Oh yeah, sometime i found that the technician laser cannot pulse enemy

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Do you know why?

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I mean i have to use the external pulse skill to increase the chance

livid mesa
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Don't worry, a simple headshot can activate the pulse talent

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Doesn't need to kill

scenic hornet
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okay got that

hot gale
dense cloak
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Opinion about Ninjabike backpack combined with gearset? I found some YT build videos showcasing Ninjabike with gearsets, such as Striker, or Umbra, etc.

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However, my clan mate says that combination is suck. Ninjabike is better paired with the usual yellow High End gears, since it gives +1 gearset benefits to all other 5 pieces. Anyone have any advices?

shy willow
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It's garbage

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Cool meme piece but garbage

solar sable
ancient path
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Or 100% hazpro build..

shy willow
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The only serious uses I've seen on ninjabike is diag builds and PvP healers

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You can make an argument for it on hotshot now that we have breaking point but vigi is mostly better

dense cloak
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Ah yes, thank you for the opinion guys~ Guess I will never know unless I tried the build then..

dense cloak
magic pilot
shy willow
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You lucky bastard

upper gale
rich lotus
versed summit
versed summit
rich lotus
versed summit
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3rd piece Gila w/ ad rush

rich lotus
pastel crane
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Yes

rich lotus
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oh okay yeah im still sorta new into this things

upper gale
versed summit
upper gale
sharp pier
# rich lotus

Hey! I would recomend you make this build if you going for a regen build... 🙂

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mines not the best due to Its not optimzied but it will hit

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My current regen

livid mesa
pastel crane
livid mesa
sharp pier
livid mesa
sharp pier
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no clue

livid mesa
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What does it do?

sharp pier
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idek tbh ahaha

livid mesa
pastel crane
# livid mesa What does it do?

"Big Game Hunter
When scoped, switches to semi-automatic fire mode, dealing 450% weapon damage with each shot.

Headshots grant +4% headshot damage. Stacks up to 25 times. Once at full stacks, 10 stacks decay every 4 seconds until all stacks have been removed. Headshots delay decaying of stacks."

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And besides Legendary Summit, you can get Bighorn in Legendary Strongholds

pastel crane
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Got it

shy willow
wise swallow
versed summit
rich lotus
red island
sharp pier
rich lotus
sharp pier
sharp pier
magic pilot
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Also 3 Golan?

rich lotus
magic pilot
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Send what you have now

rich lotus
magic pilot
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Yea that's a lot better

rich lotus
magic pilot
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If you can't get emperors and don't want to run efficient chest swap belstone for Golan

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Or get gila knees and run picaros

wise swallow
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far better then intim imo

rich lotus
wise swallow
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everyday carrier is a named belstone chest

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comes with perfect efficient

livid mesa
wise swallow
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uhhh

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no? not even close to chameleon

pastel crane
livid mesa
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Also

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Question, what's the name of that mosquito icon talent and what does it do

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I forgot about it

red island
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mosquito : forces enemy npc to target you

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for 5s

versed summit
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It’s pretty bad

livid mesa
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Doesn't it make you get extra armor for killing?

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That bp talent

red island
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what bp talent

pastel crane
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Are you talking about Bloodsucker? cuz I'm pretty sure Mosquito doesn't have that with its talent.

red island
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xd

versed summit
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Yeah bloodsucker is a mosquito

red island
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yeah thats a VERY different one lmao

versed summit
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Common mixup lol

livid mesa
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Should i put it in this defense + damage build?

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Or use vigilant

red island
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depend what u use it for

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bloodsucker could be nice imo

livid mesa
tulip charm
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What scuffed build is that

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Pfe?

livid mesa
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Ima show the final results once i complete

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Ignore the shit editing 😭

tulip charm
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Just use the build tool next time

livid mesa
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It*

tulip charm
red island
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its not hard, just try it

livid mesa
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Adhd kicked in

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Forgot to put defense in chest plate

tulip charm
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Just share the link

livid mesa
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Wait no

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Gloves

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@tulip charm There's the link

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It's a mix between defense and damage so expect it to not be powerful in damage

paper bluff
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any good builds surrounding a dttooc akm?

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all stats maxed out

versed summit
rose kraken
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Best gear set to use with nemesis?

hexed steppe
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Hotshot

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Pinned spreadsheet > sniper setups
iirc

red island
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i wish claws out could be a good named item

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like imagine if melee was an actual mechanic in the game

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not just bad

gentle lichen
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There is

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And it's quite powerful in pvp
Conflict specifically

solar sable
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sweet dreams doesn't work in conflict right?

gentle lichen
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But you'll prefer lady death + claws out + striker shield

solar sable
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is there a melee build with those?

gentle lichen
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Yeah hold up

red island
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i mean

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melee does so little damage, even claws out and lady death cant change that

gentle lichen
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So you can dump all into regen/hazpro stats/brands

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It also barely suffers from loss of shd watch bonuses

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Also melee goes through bonus armor. So HB users who lost their armor and are now relying on the bonus armor to keep them up is nullified

solar sable
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Already seeing emperor's makes me itchy

red island
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same

magic pilot
red island
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it shouldnt

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expertise only upgrade the armor on gear and damage on bullets/skills

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nothing on melee

red island
# magic pilot That's what you think

i mean on heroic melee does like less than 5% of their hp bar, you can multiply that by 10 if you want, thats still nothing compared to the danger it requires you to go in

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can you even os a redbar with this ?

magic pilot
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its not for pve

red island
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how much damage would you do in pvp ?

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but yeah i was mostly thnking pve, pvp is neve ron my mind usually

gentle lichen
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Shield triples damage so it's a must have

red island
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that mean crusader shield

solar sable
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striker

red island
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how the fk do u use that in pvp when anyone can click on your head and destroy you

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yeah whatever i mean its not the first one

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that mean its small, your head is vulnerable

gentle lichen
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You don't keep using the shield.
Pull out shield. Melee. Disengage shield and keep running around

red island
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yeah but to do that you need to be in melee range first

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before getting in range, either you run in and get shredded, or you go in with shield but you dont run fast and get shredded

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cause its not like you were running to get into a good position/cover/spot/etc

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you are running toward them full speed

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i see no situation where this goes well

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i mean vs players that are decent at least, bad players you will win no matter the build or what you do

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and yeah for pve its def garbage you do no damage

jagged marlin
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You can definitely pull that build off in the small tight corners of some conflict maps

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It's very map dependent

wise swallow
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Man I didn’t think I’d see the day where people actually think claws out ld isn’t just a meme build

gentle lichen
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It's a solid support build for conflict

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Almost every top clan in ps has someone to run it

jagged marlin
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It's more effective against controllers for the obvious reasons

wise swallow
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The melee aspect of it is not the purpose lol

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It’s just something to throw on cuz there’s really nothing else

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Let’s not pretend that the melee is effective at all

solar sable
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a long time ago I was having fun with a melee guy chasing my ash at Conflict lmao
I enjoyed it but never asked for the build

red island
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But it can be fun I guess

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And like not THAT bad to play maybe

rose kraken
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Aces and eights sniper builds good?

solar sable
stiff jasper
# red island Well it's still a même build tbh, let's face it, anyone with a brain and that ca...

You have to understand the theory of melee build in pvp

Basically it rely melee damage only to dealing damage, means it can involve all attributes and brand and talent to increase survivability like regen hazard armor eventually I use hazard syscor personally

When you begin so tanky and still have enough damage, you able to win 1v1 most of build once you able to get close

So in team fight, you able to giving pressure to enemy team by just walking around and secure position
Once you get chance to get close enemy team, you can target the important enemy like sniper, high red, mortar etc., forces enemy player rescue their teammates

Since you already in melee range = center or flankside or backward of enemy team, they have to show their back to your teammates

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It is inevitable to taking some damage to get close enemy, so how good of strafe and mindset to use cover are key point to run melee

mint axle
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Also if you have the damage mods on your shield, the striker shield combined with LD and CO can deal up to 648K of damage. And this damage can be increased with glass cannon and System Corruption ability.

hot gale
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What exotic gear pieces are there for team tank builds

red island
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Ridgeway chest pièce ?

hot gale
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I know tardigrade has an effect when your teammates lose all their armor

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But what other exotic benefits my team?

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For tanking

red island
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basically none

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chest exo pieces are what can do some tanking

shy willow
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Tardigrade is like the only one

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Otherwise just use pointman

clever junco
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Hi. When reading some of these guides they say, "Full red build." So I make all of my attributes red...then of course get one-shotted! What's the right balance of "red" along with sufficient armor/health? I've got Elmo+Memento with 4xStriker and a Fenris chest. Thanks.

red island
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no amount of armor will save you from that

clever junco
red island
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i mean

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its a cover based shooter

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like half the shooting mechanic are about staying in cover

hexed steppe
hot gale
onyx sage
hexed steppe
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Whoops div2love

autumn yacht
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sweet dreams works too

stiff jasper
red island
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that doesnt sound op lmao

rich cosmos
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If that was a thing I would thing it would be a known meta by now

magic pilot
mint axle
red island
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Yeah so that's pretty bad

magic pilot
mint axle
magic pilot
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Oh I'm not doubting you

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I never used it lol

red island
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i mean its a bad gun so nobody uses it

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the fact that there is a cooldown is insane

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why the f would you put a cooldown on killing a red or purple

shy willow
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So you can't slap it onto a tank build and get the most free clears

red island
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it wouldnt be a free clear

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how do you clear elites with no damage ?

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if you cant clear elites you cant do anything

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if you can, why would you care about red/purples

shy willow
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PFE builds lol

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Reds and purples destroy them

vestal ibex
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MRW a red shotgunner runs up on me while key tanking-HELP HELP PLS SAVE ME

red island
shy willow
shy willow
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Only see them on legendary tbh

red island
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not a mix

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and in legendary the problem isnt red or purples bars

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everything tries to oneshot you there

shy willow
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PFE is tanky

shy willow
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Cuz elites just tickle you but everything else destroys you

red island
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thats not the pb, if you can tank elites, you still cant kill them on a tnak build

jagged marlin
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You can kill elites on a tank build, it just takes a little bit more time

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Just run intimidate and ad rush with six 12 brazen

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  • blb
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That's how you can solo wright

red island
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im gonna try making a tip of the spear build

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sounds bad and funny

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prob on the grenade launcher for more fun

shy willow
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Unfortunately they murdered tips in cold blood

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It used to be an actually pretty good set

pastel crane
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Was that in Y5S2?

red island
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nerfed how ?

shy willow
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This was the old talent

tulip charm
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God I loved tips hh

red island
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now its really bad for sure

shy willow
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It's free TWD

red island
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yeah but still 4 pieces

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oh btw, does weapon damage affect signature weapon or not at all ?

shy willow
red island
onyx sage
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weapon specific damage bonuses don't

shy willow
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Ah

tulip charm
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iirc its tac 50 and mini gun that are affected by weapon damage

urban latch
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Flamethrower does as well

red island
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grenade launcher ?

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cause i tried putting something from scratch, i cant kill a simple red bar with it xd

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im not maxed out on rolls but still

urban latch
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Grenade launcher scales with explosive damage

red island
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so you can build full blue core with explosive damage brand gear

magic pilot
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Tots used to be the best sniper gearset in the game by far

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Old tots> hotshot

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Pre expertise it was one of the easiest ways to one shot countdown hunters

onyx sage
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now with expertise i just snipe with HF

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i wonder if they designed hotshot to replace tots sniper and thought the 20% amp from hotshot = the 20% twd from tots

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in their infinite wisdom

red island
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aside from china and grupo brand, how could you get explosive damage ?

magic pilot
red island
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lol

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then grenade launcher is basically unusable

magic pilot
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Spec into explosive and status effects

red island
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grenade launcher doesnt do status effect

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also how can i spex into explosive besode thoses 2 brand

hexed steppe
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Watch also gives explosive damage attribute 👆

versed summit
red island
hexed steppe
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Ig I mixed that up with demo spec 😅

hexed steppe
red island
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yeah but with what gear

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what can give you explosive damage

hexed steppe
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Just china /grupo glass amp as well helps it

red island
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yeah so not more than me

hexed steppe
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I didnt think there was a competition petter

Just mentioning it's not a bad spec weapon

red island
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its a bad weapon tho

hexed steppe
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User issue I think tbf

red island
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no i mean specs are good

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but the grende launcher does 0 damage

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like you need both explosive damage from thoses brand to oneshot a red bar

hexed steppe
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That's not accurate

red island
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i feel like a signature weapon that cant oneshot a red bar is bad

hexed steppe
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Post your build... maybe we can figure out why it isnt good for you

red island
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tip of the spear +2 grupo

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i dont see any more signature weapon damage or more explosive damage on it

hexed steppe
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China light like my mask

red island
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you cant

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4 piece tip 2 grupo

hexed steppe
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Your problem is tots

red island
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yeah but tots give more signature weapon damage

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thats like the max weapon damage you can get on grenade launcher

hexed steppe
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Obv its shit if you say its useless

red island
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nah

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its shit if it cant kill a red bar

hexed steppe
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I have no issues killing 4man heroic red/purple ads

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Takes chunks off anything tbf

hexed steppe
red island
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something isnt right then

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tots talent

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i need to have killed an npc to finally os red bars

hexed steppe
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And what damage do you see per hit

red island
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im in descent rn, i can check after

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but its not low

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2.6M

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i get 3.1 with the bonus

hexed steppe
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With the setup I posted I see around 4mil on noobtube hits iirc. The toyts set is just kinda bad my guy. It's really just holding you back if you need to get a signature weapon kill to actually make the weapon usable.
You're missing 15%explosive damage from china, and if you're using the tots chest you are missing a 30% amp

red island
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ah

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the chest boost signature weapon damage

pastel crane
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Remind me, whats the attributes in your build, local?

red island
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sacrifice

pastel crane
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Skill damage/Skill haste?

hexed steppe
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You also dont need it to regenerate the ammo. I always have it scattered everywhere when I'm running the build... which is all the time 😎

red island
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how do you generate ammo without it tho

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you cant generate ammo with grenade launcher

hexed steppe
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Probably from all the explosive kills. I cant remember the wording on the spec for generating it. But I always have it

hexed steppe
hexed steppe
fresh grove
red island
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aight let met check now with the chest

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3.8m

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much better

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im really squichy but at least i oneshot them

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but now i cant generate ammo really fast :/

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yeah tots is rella fked

hexed steppe
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Yeah, definitely squishy.
I think you should build a high end mortar tbh.

red island
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i dont really like mortar

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too slow to shoot, thats why i wanted grenade launcher, which is so much faster

onyx sage
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well we can't get nice things too easily

red island
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haha

hexed steppe
red island
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wait, does tots work in pvp ?

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like dz

onyx sage
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it's completely different in pvp iirc

red island
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ah

hexed steppe
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No spec weapons in pvp, right?

onyx sage
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yeah, so it's replaced with a different kit

red island
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yeah thats why i was wondering

onyx sage
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but i'm not in game to read

red island
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its grenade based in pvp

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and generate grenade

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kinda bad i guess

hexed steppe
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Maybe something with collector if that works in pvp.

red island
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i think something is weird now tho

gentle lichen
red island
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without sacrifice i couldnt oneshot red bars, but i destroyed all the armor or yellows and purples basically,

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i needed 2 shots for all

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now i oneshot red bars, but i dont seem to do much more to purple and yellows

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idk maybe im missing something

onyx sage
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psst you want a spec weapon that will one shot elites?

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have i got just the one for you

red island
#

yeah, but a fun one

onyx sage
#

it's the grenade launcher but the grenade is a lot smaller and it can hit the head

hexed steppe
red island
#

haha

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hitting head with it might be tricky tho

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especially if they move

onyx sage
#

yeah real talk the grenade launcher is projectile based

#

it's a bit harder to aim than bullet based stuff

red island
#

now imagine mortar

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mortar is cool and all, but its slower than the molotov from outcasts on normal diff

hexed steppe
#

Oh but it's so devastating when in the proper hands 😎

#

Mortar is 😍

red island
#

isnt it sad tho

hexed steppe
#

Not at all

red island
#

no i mean

#

that skills or weapons do more damage than signature weapons

#

its supposed to replace the old signature skill from div 1

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and back then thoses signature skill were super strong

#

now they are so forgotten

hexed steppe
#

Way different game tbf

red island
#

i think sometimes im like "oh yeah i have a spec weapon i forgot"

#

i know its different, but spec weapons are so useless

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and when they have damage they have drawbacks that are insane

hexed steppe
#

Other specs I dont use the weapon mostly. But with demo it's easy to help pickup a couple kills while waiting for the 10sec cooldown of mortar

red island
#

i think they should rework the animation for swapping tbh

#

the swap to and from spec weapon is sooooooooooooo long

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i could swap to grenade launcher and then boom, im on retirement

hexed steppe
#

That's why you start with the mortar petter

Then When raining hell on npcs it doesnt matter how long the swap is

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Nice thing about mortar, you can aim and fire while reviving someone or capturing an objective

red island
#

if mortar projectile was better i would

hexed steppe
#

Idk. 10mil hits are pretty good petter

autumn yacht
autumn yacht
hexed steppe
#

Not in pvp, only pve

autumn yacht
#

try it in dz

livid mesa
#

Where can i find a one shot regulus build for raids

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I'm starving for it rn

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Lmk when somebody find one

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I'm really starving for one div2seekermine

livid mesa
#

I just closed discord LOL

#

@solar sable tysm, just took all screenshots needed

livid mesa
#

Also

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About the dodge city holster

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Whenever you shoot them it's all headshot?

onyx sage
livid mesa
onyx sage
tulip charm
livid mesa
#

If you got a really high damage

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It's going up to 1250%

onyx sage
#

you overestimate how many adds you'll kill in raids

livid mesa
onyx sage
#

worse, if your build is meant to one-shot a boss and you're stacking every buff possible, the biggest buff is from dodge city and that's only for one shot

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you're not going to stack kills with chainkiller then one-shot a boss

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you already ran out of dodge city

livid mesa
#

Oof

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So all same pieces but with sacrifice

#

Understood

magic pilot
#

Don't raid one shots for nego use shotgun now??

#

4 Nego, Providence intimidate chest and Habsburg on anything besides bp

shy willow
#

Chain killer is only for snipers on morozova iirc

stiff jasper
hexed anvil
#

What does more dmg on Wright?D50 with headshot dmg or d50 with DTTOC? I'm using dodge city holster with achilles pulse

stiff jasper
#

how many hsd you have

hexed anvil
cinder rock
#

would adding a bit of armor regen to a dps build be a bad idea?

red island
#

not really

#

aok yes

cinder rock
red island
#

what ?

cinder rock
#

idk i saw people here say that

red island
#

thoses words make no sense

#

chc is capped at 60

cinder rock
#

oh

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sorry yeah

red island
#

if you're at cap, get less chc and more chd

stiff jasper
versed summit
hexed anvil
pastel crane
#

They're asking if you use Negotiator's Dileema in your build

hexed anvil
cinder rock
versed summit
#

Are you getting a lot of use out of your turret though?

cinder rock
versed summit
vestal ibex
vestal ibex
#

Really? Boot your game up and screeny it.

tawdry flare
pastel crane
#

Ok

vestal ibex
hexed anvil
urban latch
#

You would just be swapping punch drunk.for it

vestal ibex
#

Just know your achilles is a direct multi so it's big damage.

hexed anvil
pastel crane
vestal ibex
hexed anvil
#

@vestal ibex

vestal ibex
#

I'm just letting you know contractors will do more damage for your one shots and the amount of HSD is not gonna be felt for clearing ads.

vestal ibex
#

I do remember you talking about wanting to do speeds for the incursion but I guess idk how you are trying to do wright, our groups one shotters did have one person help with ads from one door but if none spawned there it was all on one guy to clear all the ads.

hexed anvil
vestal ibex
#

You know about what we call dummy damage right?

hexed anvil
#

Having a dedicated ad clear is a good idea

hexed anvil
vestal ibex
#

So after the last water you have to do about 8 mil in damage otherwise your one shot will only do like that much regardless. So you have to have someone shoot that first before your one shot happens.

hexed anvil
vestal ibex
#

No no no... You just have to do 8ish mil in damage before one shot.

hexed anvil
#

Ok.. thanks.. this is some good info😍

vestal ibex
#

This is what a clean one shot looks like.

hexed anvil
#

So I guess I need to find a d50 with DTTOC

vestal ibex
#

Also all POVs are linked in that run if you wanna see how or what anyone is doing at any point in that run.

vestal ibex
red island
#

im like struggling to do the bosses and not die from the timer and you guys deleted them from existence so fast xd

vestal ibex
#

DCH+achilles=clapped

hexed anvil
#

@vestal ibex how many people in the team uses dodge city?

tulip charm
#

Truly a speed runner

vestal ibex
hexed anvil
vestal ibex
#

Yeah if you watch the health bar you see my damage then the second DCH shooters damage then main DCH deletes him.

red island
#

dch ?

hexed anvil
hexed anvil
red island
#

ah

stiff jasper
upper gale
#

wats the best way to farm toe crafting mats to optimize ur stuff?

red island
#

or global events caches when its aviable

upper gale
#

wats best thing to farm it

red island
#

invaded missions, invaded dz, tidal bassin, and every legendary stronghold/summit

#

i think invaded dz is the best imo but also risky

river ledge
#

Does someone have a dedicated sniper loadout?

tulip charm
red island
#

cp4, bounties, summit, open world, etc

#

and to their specific faction only

#

you can craft them but its very heavy on crafting mats

upper gale
red island
#

its not bad

#

but you cant choose the faction

upper gale
#

oki

upper gale
red island
upper gale
#

ah oki

#

is it not always in rotation

#

as its not there

hexed steppe
#

You need to do controlpoints for the different optimization blueprints. Cant buy them

upper gale
hexed steppe
#

Challenging and up

#

Any cp. So alert level 3 or 4

lapis forge
#

whats the best build i can make with a ouroborus

hexed steppe
#

Build guides in the pinned spreadsheet attached to this channel

flint wave
#

probably strikerpetter

pastel crane
#

Striker is overstrikerated overrated

wise swallow
#

i kinda agree for open world

livid mesa
#

Chat on an honest serious debate, SR-1 or SRS 1

livid mesa
wise swallow
#

basically the only difference between the 2 is a trade off of 24k more base dmg for 2 less bullets.

SRS has 7 rounds sr-1 has 5

everything else is basically the same (sr1 has a higher optimal range but I find you never actually reach beyond what the srs is rated at)

#

SRS I think reloads a tenth of a second or 2 faster

#

Id just use whatever you got with the best rolls

dreamy valve
#

Which marksman rifle is this?

solar sable
dreamy valve
#

Is it better than the other variants?

solar sable
#

in base damage, yes

dreamy valve
#

Hmm

scenic hornet
#

Hi guys

#

After some days grinding for stuff

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I end up with this

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What do you guy think?

solar sable
#

isn't backpack supposed to have Vigilance?

scenic hornet
#

uhhh I cannot farm for that talent

solar sable
#

oh yeah, that's the only thing missing on your HB build

scenic hornet
#

grinding for all day =))))

solar sable
scenic hornet
#

yeah, but the current one is still gud right?

#

it say increase weap dmg for 15% when in cover

solar sable
#

Composure... yeah, that works, but you're not always on cover/vaulted

scenic hornet
#

yeah, i suppose, so just sometime =))

#

But anyway, thanks 😄

solar sable
#

You can use Composure in the meantime ;)

scenic hornet
#

Yes, and the strained said that if i fire for 0.3s, it increase chd 10% , max stacks is 5

#

so it mean i just need to shoot, so the damage will get bigger right?

scenic hornet
#

okay thanks

hexed steppe
# scenic hornet I end up with this

consider flatline talent for the weapons. flatline is amp damage with no ramp up. use linked laser if not already to pulse anything you aim at

scenic hornet
#

yeah i also one that but roll for a weapon with critical hit chance is hard

#

I will try again see if i can get that

shy willow
tawdry flare
#

Crit chance is only for LMG since they have DTTOC

clever junco
#

Hello. Is there a particular build that is most effective for soloing Summit? I've been running Countdown as Gunner with Elmo/Memento and Striker set.

red island
#

dont use memento with striker

#

otherwise its good

vestal ibex
#

Memento striker is fine for solo tho.

livid mesa
#

Which regulus build is stronger? The Hunter's fury one or the high end one??

onyx sage
livid mesa
#

Oh ok

#

I'm planning into also using the raid variants

#

Because of the 80 million damage it can get

onyx sage
#

raids you will use the high end variant

livid mesa
#

Exactly

onyx sage
#

in legendary, heroic, open world the HF variant is better

livid mesa
#

Imagine a 80 million damage on the base game

hazy steeple
#

At one point, you could get to almost 100 mil with the Nemesis.

livid mesa
#

Regulus is indeed, damnation at first sight

onyx sage
#

make both, you'll be using the HF variant a lot in legendary when you get to speeds

livid mesa
#

Also does the raid variation consists into constant killing or just one use per max stack?

rich lotus
#

Can i get scorpio in countdown?

livid mesa
onyx sage
#

you can keep killing, the headhunter will persist your damage, but for hitting a boss keeping dodge city stacked to hit the head will be necessary

rich lotus
livid mesa
onyx sage
#

you can

livid mesa
#

Oh

#

Perfect then i guess

onyx sage
#

it just depends on the situation

livid mesa
#

So i can keep constantly killing with the regulus equipped?

vestal ibex
#

I'd say you wont be using a regulus build in the raids tho.

#

Unless it's one shots.

livid mesa
onyx sage
#

well that's not what he meant

vestal ibex
#

Boss one shots

onyx sage
#

one-shotting a boss requires a completely different setup

livid mesa
#

I Wonder if it can one shot that dark hours final boss

vestal ibex
#

Razorback yeah but it's tac 50

livid mesa
#

I'm pretty sure you can one shot those flying quadcopters through DC

#

Imagine Black tusk reacting how their 5 billion dollar quadcopters got destroyed in one shot petter

vestal ibex
#

I mean you can 1 shot almost everything in the game aside of the incursion bosses.

livid mesa
#

As long it isn't a robot

onyx sage
#

one-shot the zoo bosses pls

vestal ibex
onyx sage
#

break their helmets in 1 hit

#

idk how much their plates' hp is actually

#

but like i point that out as 1 case where setting up for one-shot just takes more time than just killing them

livid mesa
#

So i can pretty much use the raid variant in the open world and kill constantly with regulus? Understandable

vestal ibex
livid mesa
#

I love being a damage maniac so this is why i'm asking if i can use the raid version normally and kill people constantly with one pistol

upper gale
#

This bighorn wont drop

vestal ibex
livid mesa
vestal ibex
onyx sage
#

i mean you're at the beginning stages, there are many one-shot builds, some are more realistic in some situations than others

upper gale
onyx sage
#

like you won't be using the raid setup in legendary because HHF exists

livid mesa
#

Oh

#

I guess i'll make one saved slot for main game and one for pure chaos on raids

#

Btw @onyx sage is the hhf variant superior to the high end variant?

livid mesa
#

Oh

#

I mean, close range is pretty much the regulus speciality

#

Ty @onyx sage

vestal ibex
#

I'd say build them both and see which you like more.

frail marlin
#

Is striker still the way to go for group pve activities ?

versed summit
frail marlin
#

Can’t they just change It up a bit 😂

shy willow
#

its not like the game forces you to use striker

#

theres other great builds

tulip charm
livid mesa
frail marlin
shy willow
#

id say the only time youre essentially pushed to use it is the incursion

#

everywhere else there's a good bunch of other stuff

#

nego, eclipse, FI, hotshot etc

tame flax
#

and many many others

shy willow
#

even then there's even good high end builds not just the prov/foxes/contractors one

vestal ibex
shy willow
#

ye

rich lotus
#

can someone explain this

red island
#

you need top swap weapons with g to check how much you got on bighorn

tulip charm
#

its just a visual bug

rich lotus
#

Oh yeah it fixed now 185% and 95k armor regen

dreamy valve
#

damn trying to get a Hasburg with Headshot/Weapon Handling and Vigilance is a unicorn

upper gale
#

Starting to think it doesnt exist in my summit

fresh grove
versed summit
vestal ibex
#

Yeah it has to be named enemies as mentioned earlier.

tulip charm
magic pilot
upper gale
upper gale
versed summit
upper gale
#

Just wont drop

versed summit
#

RNG be RNGing

upper gale
#

Fr

vestal ibex
#

You should get some people to join and share. 5% over 4 people better odds.

upper gale
#

None of my mates play div 2 sadly

rich lotus
#

I'd like to try summit

vestal ibex
#

Boom you got 1 already.

upper gale
#

Im at gym at mo, will dm later

magic pilot
#

I'd go to 90 tbh

upper gale
#

So i can clear first wave + boss without worrying to spare a ad

#

As theres a 2nd wave with another boss anyway

urban latch
#

The whole point of 90 is 3 bosses for 3 chances per run

upper gale
#

For pve anyways

urban latch
#

Don't really want a skill build for 90, striker us just fine

magic pilot
#

Striker or HH

patent fossil
#

someone told me a while back that only the final boss of the floor has a chance to drop bighorn, so farming that is quicker on floor 10
(haven't tested it myself though)

magic pilot
#

Ehh the normal boss loot is worth still

red island
#

iirc all bosses on legendary can drop bighorn

patent fossil
vestal ibex
#

I don't trust anyone, especially myself.

red island
#

same

#

especially in div 2

#

y'all could be rogues

patent fossil
#

If someone can be bothered to disprove it by farming out legendary F90 until they get a bighorn drop from one of the first two bosses (or until they're convinced it doesn't happen), that would be useful

vestal ibex
#

I mean if they are a named legendary enemy they should but it wouldn't surprise me if their loot table is funk.

red island
#

you say that so we die in summit and you take our gear

patent fossil
#

I mean, I'd do it myself but that would take time and effort and frankly I don't care enough

upper gale
vestal ibex
#

Just normal bosses?

upper gale
#

May aswell stay on 80 then

#

Instead of wasting my time going to 90

urban latch
#

I think your thinking of f100?

upper gale
#

No

vestal ibex
#

Drop diff-yeet up 10 floors-raise diff-get 1 extra roll per run.

upper gale
vestal ibex
#

Just maintain your health above 0 while making theirs hit 0.

clever junco
#

Hi. I'm running Striker gear with Elmo and Memento. I just got my first Coyote's Mask. Should I equip that and lose Memento? If so, what backpack would you recommend?

tulip charm
#

Striker Backpack

magic pilot
rich lotus
upper gale
#

it dropped

#

nearly god role too

magic pilot
magic pilot
upper gale
pastel crane
#

What am I looking at, here>?

mint axle
red island
upper gale
red island
#

So all bosses drop it as we thought

jagged marlin
#

Every 10th floor boss, including hunters

rich lotus
magic pilot
rich lotus
#

Only on chest piece there is 1 skill

solar sable
#

@magic pilot
heya, do you have a brazen shotgun pvp build?

scenic hornet
#

Guys, what the hell is this 💀💀💀

solar sable
scenic hornet
#

=)))) bro

#

By the way, i just have this little boy, any recommend play style?

solar sable
#

doesn't have one, it's a meh weapon. It's an smg disguised as an AR and pretty inconsistent

#

in simpler words, free exo component

surreal depot
#

Shit players think it's meh

solar sable
#

not the Enjoyer

atomic turtle
#

... @urban latch
Raucey... I got it!
RAUCEY I GOT IT!

#

LMAO I wasn't even farming for it this time.

scenic hornet
#

i mean should i use the play style where i try to encounter with striker 3 blue core and kill enemy as fast as possible?

solar sable
#

you could try
personally, I don't run blues in LZ because of oreo

scenic hornet
#

ohhh okay

scenic hornet
#

Yayyyyy

#

I did it

solar sable
#

nice

urban latch
frail marlin
#

Which smg do u suggest for hunters fury build. Ourobouros, lady death, other ??

hot gale
#

Is the chill out mask in the general loot pool now?

pastel crane
#

Only available during christmas event

tawdry flare
frail marlin
#

Thx I have it 🙂

scarlet swan
#

Aka The House's lil yet identical bro

red island
#

the apartment but taxes took out the garage on your property

tulip charm
#

A terrible apartment at that

urban latch
#

Apartment is basically just a bad talent on a good high end gun, so your better off using a standard mpx or other high end SMG than the apartment

tawdry flare
magic pilot
hexed steppe
upper gale
magic pilot
upper gale
#

wat 3 do u want

onyx sage
upper gale
versed summit
upper gale
red island
#

player i encountered during sheperding

#

rate their build for me

tulip charm
#

meta/10

half cosmos
#

heyo can someome help me with a ravenous build?

tulip charm
half cosmos
half cosmos
tulip charm
# half cosmos

Personally Ravenous is very niche and is limited to dogs, chungus and raid use. You're better off just using a better gun.

#

That vector is gonna do you better.

half cosmos
#

that is the dark winter i swap that for shield splinter if i feel like it but got it

shell horizon
#

Can someone give me a 1shot sniper build

solar sable
shell horizon
#

Thank you man

solar sable
#

This is my setup, good luck!

hexed steppe
#

If you hit 100% stability between weapon handling rolls and stability attachments, then your scope wont sway at all when you ads

red island
#

and thats pretty neat

keen plume
#

New build meta : go naked , be a monk , dont use weapons , thats toxic

red island
#

and die horribly

rich lotus
#

Is emperror guard kneepads dz only?

shy willow
#

Other than named caches ye

hot gale
#

What brand sets has armor regen and how much

shy willow
#

You can check against the spreadsheet pinned here

tawdry flare
#

Hey @urban latch what's the best backfire build you can think of ?

hot gale
#

Can you get emperor’s guard from named caches?

shy willow
#

Yes

scenic hornet
#

Hi, i saw some video making about striker 3 blue 3 red with catharis, skill cursader shield and mender seeker mine, what do you guy think?

#

i also wonder whether 2 or 3 blue cores are enough for healing

jagged marlin
#

Generally for skill based healing you would be better off with the drone than the mender seeker mine imo. But still you would get more sustain off of catharsis, so you could run either a reviver hive or another utlity skill there

#

Catharsis heals based on percentage armor, so regardless of the blues you'd get healed the same percentage.

Naturally, yes this means more healing the more the blues.

scenic hornet
#

hmmmmm

#

okay imma try, thanks tho

hexed steppe
# scenic hornet Hi, i saw some video making about striker 3 blue 3 red with catharis, skill curs...

i would ditch mender as this locks you to survivalist. its not the worst spec but doesnt do a lot for dps builds.

i would either, gunner for armor on kill and rof increase on kill, or possibly tech class for the free skill tier to go towards the shield strength. either case leaves you room to use another skill. artificer hive (tech class) would passively heal your shield without needing to be deployed.

depending on intended use, swapping memento in place of catharsis is also a strong option. once charged, memento would only need 1 trophy every 5 minutes to maintain full long buff. it would give 2 skill tiers to your shield, 30% skill efficiency (30% skill health boosts boosts strength). skill efficiency is % in all skill buckets, so any other used skill would benefit as well. you would also get 3% armor regen, and 2 red core equivalent from 30% wd from long buff.

dreamy valve
#

Am I the only one who thinks Catharsis is overrated?

magic pilot
#

In pve yes

#

If they change it so you can roll attributes on gear red catharsis best piece

red island
#

counterpoint

#

roll blue to coyote

#

counter counter point

#

roll skill tier to red on memento

#

+30% wd

#

asbolutely not busted

shy willow
#

I mean it already gets 30 percent wd from the talent

#

along with everything else

red island
#

shhh, dont say it out loud or it will get nerfed

magic pilot
#

I don't think memento or ninja will be rerollable

#

Blue coyotes for pvp

tawdry flare
versed summit
#

Tbh I don’t think we’ll be able to do anything more than what we can do for Acosta’s, as cool as red catharsis would be

clever junco
#

Does Striker gear come only with red Core Attribute? Can it drop with Armor as it's Core Attribute?

upper gale
#

any shops on the map selling a drone dmg resistance mod

hexed steppe
upper gale
#

ty:)

upper gale
#

wats best way to get? caches or focus in countdown

rich cosmos
#

Just do both

#

Just do both methods at the same time

frail marlin
magic pilot
upper gale
rich lotus
#

What's a good build for pvp with Elmo's engine

mint axle
clever junco
#

Does Catharsis drop in Countdown? I've gotten five or six Coyotes and about the same number of Viles...

solar sable
clever junco
solar sable
#

From Inaya

clever junco
#

Do I have to deconstruct the Catharsis for the blueprints to show up in Inaya's store? I've gotten a lot of Exotics from caches, but they don't all have blueprints in her store.