td2-build-advice

[hazy steeple]

Ah see it only works if you also like the Backfire & DW.

so it works for 2 people.

[slim girder]

also, it can come down to what said secondary weapon is. with the same gear, if you were to use a high end smg like a vector with all CHD mods as your primary, something like the scorpio or sweet dreams/lullaby could definitely benefit from that extra 10% CHC

[glossy scarab]

yeah usually im thinking of a shotgun when it comes to HF

[dense seal]

No one tell him about Head Hunter's Fury

[shy willow]

[hazy steeple]

I'm glad people have stopped using the shorthand for that.
It feels like it'll trip up the filter.

[slim girder]

understandable since HF is essentially CQC based, cuz it's 2 piece bonus literally benefits SMGs and SGs, the kings and queens of CQC, with 20% extra dmg

speaking of sweet dreams/lullaby, i finally witnessed something that changed my opinion on them, since i always thought they were my least favourite exotics. a mad lad was running the SD in a legendary and i completely forgot it can one hit melee non elites, regardless of difficulty

[shy willow]

The issue is getting in melee range long enough to take a swing without getting clapped

[slim girder]

well he's a risky devil but he did what he intended to

which was to a mimir all the non elites

now that I think about it, there are 2 things i would want changed when it comes to both the sweet dreams and lullaby

[dense seal]

The issue is, aside from the obvious draw backs of having to melee. . .
if we put this weapon in it's best scenario, M870 with Pummel does the same thing but better and effectively has infinite ammo.
Oh no, I cannot melee one shot a Red or Purple. No problem, I can just one shot everything anyway.

We are desperate for a build shack up, Gear 3.0.
Project Resolves Brand Set bafoonary was so not even close to what was needed.

[slim girder]

i would have the talent name changed to "A Mimir" and the lullaby description to "The power this holds will have you singing songs about me." - A deadman

[hazy steeple]

Someone's going to need to explain what a mimir is.

[dense seal]

The head from God Of War?

[hazy steeple]

Also dod please don't fix that typo. It's hilarious. (the first one)

I've not played the recent one.

[dense seal]

Well, I cannot call if BUFFoonary as that would imply something else

[hazy steeple]

No no, the gear shack up.
I'm picturing some weird things.

Let's go with "Manny and Lau singing Love Shack"

[glossy scarab]

alright nobody's shacking up with anybody

[dense seal]

What about our weekend plans?

[glossy scarab]

i would never break them

[hazy steeple]

You've got Hollywood to farm out.

[glossy scarab]

you know that

[dense seal]

No thanks.

[hazy steeple]

3x explosions, 3x range, fixed vfx, spec+grenade ammo drops on your point.

[glossy scarab]

what hollywood isnt better now?

[dense seal]

Exactly. If i wanted to be bored out of my mind playing easy mode, I would just set the world to . . . . Easy.

[hazy steeple]

You might have a difficult time setting the LZ to Easy in div2.

I'm just making fun. I still call Heroic "Legend" from v2.

[gentle lichen]

It's a high-risk high-reward playstyle that i'm not sure a striker user would be comfortable with that.
Me personally i love that shit purely because of regulus

[slim girder]

it means nighty night in spanish

[hazy steeple]

Huh, so that's what it translates to when the game is in Spanish.

I physically can not type what it is in English for Lullaby ("Sleep tight, motherf----r")., but Sweet Dreams is a pun based on the Eurythmics song.

[slim girder]

yeah, that reference is one of my favourite easter eggs, i suppose you could call it

dunno if anyone will get what i mean with the lullaby tho, hehehehe

[open flare]

Builds are irrelevant PVP wise just stack expertise on weapons or skills you have a build

[dense seal]

*Rocks up to Conflict with 5 piece Improvised and Ninja Bike Backpack . . . . *

[glossy scarab]

wow crickets for dod? never seen that before

[slim girder]

imagine if ninjabike gave improvised pieces a 2nd gear mod slot lol

[dense seal]

Imagine if Ninja Bike Backpack was good

[slim girder]

personally, I'm enjoying it. it's pretty swag. nice to see more div 1 stuff coming back

[dense seal]

The coding premise and overall performance of Division 2 is vastly different to Division 1.
To put it in Lamen Terms. Nothing in it's entirety from Division 1 will really work in Division 2. Even the fundamental principle of Strikers in Division 1 was changed to fit Division 2. Why was this not done with Ninja Bag?
Also, enjoying something does not make something good.
I enjoyed being in the Infanrty. . . . Not exactly good for your mental well-being though

[glossy scarab]

I came so close to joining the military directly out of high school. my parents talked me out of it. 9 eleven happened like a month later and we went to war

[shy willow]

Dodged several bullets there

[glossy scarab]

yes sir

[dense seal]

Nah, one got me, 2 knives as well

[shy willow]

Ouch

[dense seal]

No, this is "ouch" one of the top 3 reccomended builds for PvE

[glossy scarab]

what

pve

[gentle lichen]

I thought it was memento and 4pc striker and said it actually isn't bad but jesus

[shy willow]

YouTube ahh build

[dim cape]

Best build for Hollywood event?

[brisk barn]

The fact that I see this on a daily basis

[dense seal]

Are you seeing someone? Are you okay?
Would you like to talk?
How are you feeling?

[shy willow]

Mortar variation

I run this but can use combined arms

#td2-build-advice message
The result

[vestal ibex]

I mean with the damage the event gives you I don't think you'll need a unicorn build to play it and have fun.

[shy willow]

It's reanimated but explosives

Literally just random stuff with explosives and call it a day

Although I find myself not one shotting some stuff so I'd imagine it had to be semi competent

[vestal ibex]

What's your GL hitting for anyway?

[shy willow]

I can't gauge it tbh it either nukes entire rooms or does like 3-4 million

Sometimes it has massive aoe sometimes it's normal it's weird

[vestal ibex]

Yeah it wouldn't shock me if there was some strange things going on with the event.

[shy willow]

Although when it does hit it hits stupid hard

[glossy scarab]

That looks pretty im def wearing that build when I'm off for the day

[wanton hornet]

I imagine a demolitionist tip of the spear build could also work. Sacrifice+contractors probably

[shy willow]

Possibly but the event makes your launcher hit hard and regenerate ammo anyway tbh

Having mortars and stickies are nice

[vestal ibex]

I mean PGC/china/2 pc GS/ and maybe DTA and DTTOOC are the only things that apply to the GL right?

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Gl scales with wd right?

[vestal ibex]

Run and tube builds yo

[tulip charm]

Damn

[shy willow]

thunk 💥

[rich lotus]

What’s that talent that causes grenades to keep popping off?

[hazy steeple]

Possibly Mad Bomber if you mean a regular Gear Talent:

Grenade that kill an enemy are refunded.
Grenades can now be ''cooked'' by holding the fire button, making them explode earlier.
Gain 15% bonus armor while aiming grendes"```

[rich lotus]

No. Not that one. I saw somebody throw a grenade and then another new one blew up and another but the player only threw 1 grenade.

[hazy steeple]

Wait do you mean the Cluster Grenade from the Firewall Spec Tree?

You need to have that active and then ingame hold G and swap to it.

[rich lotus]

Nope. Not that either.

[rich lotus]

I know about these ones.

[hazy steeple]

The only other grenade related thing is the Collector Exotic, which doesn't do that either.

+50% Grenade Radius
+35% Grenade Damage
+25% Grenade Damage for each extra enemy caught in the blast
Automatically regenerate grenades every 30s, if you have less than 2 grenades in your inventory."```

[rich lotus]

It’s basically like the Festive Delivery backpack. Same concept but the branded are not festive.

[glossy scarab]

The festive delivery

[rich lotus]

But the grenades weren’t the festive ones though that’s what’s bugging me.

[glossy scarab]

Ohh

Explosive delivery?

W skills exploding

[hazy steeple]

note: that doesn't work for Nades so you may have seen something else, like an Explosive Seeker.

[shy willow]

Perhaps has Hollywood on and threw a grenade

[rich lotus]

That’s the first thing I thought too but he didn’t throw a skill like a seeker. It was just a concussion grenade which he threw and blew up. Then he just stood there and a second grenade popped up out of nowhere and blew up without him doing anything. Then a third grenade it was weird never seen that before.

[rich lotus]

It was yesterday so no.

[glossy scarab]

That's so weird

[rich lotus]

Wish I would have took a video clip.

[rich lotus]

It was in countdown at the end when the black tusks come down from the choppers.

And it was actually really annoying because every time his grenades blew up it would shake my screen so bad and throw my aim off.

[brisk barn]

Are you sure it wasn’t the named Palisade talent

Or even an artillery turret

[shy willow]

That's what it sounds like if it's not hollywood

[rich lotus]

I think you are right. “Afterwards, explosions will occur every 5 seconds.”

[shy willow]

How's this for a start for a DZ type build

[brisk barn]

I’ve been wanting to make a build around this for the longest time but I’ve been too lazy to try it

[shy willow]

Easiest way to enter the hitlist of every headhunter

[wild lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091091019707199610/1232319035002327160/HOZzs4u.png?ex=66290609&is=6627b489&hm=fcb0f0ebcc82b862db62037aa4ab8c8d0d3c0154add141d267a4825da8e67cb2& Would this work?

jeez

heres the pic

[rich lotus]

It’s the Hollywood event that got me thinking about it. Perfect Explosive Delivery + Festive Delivery = Perfect Festive Delivery.

[shy willow]

For Hollywood it'll do

[wild lily]

I think i would run out of time before i get even half of that

but its fun to mess around in build tool

[shy willow]

You can swap off the grupo unicorns and the wyvern piece for empress if you want

[rich lotus]

Collector with Festive Delivery would be interesting too.

[hexed steppe]

rectified 🔥

[shy willow]

😱

[onyx sage]

based

[rich lotus]

Does anybody know if it’s possible to get the Festive Delivery blueprint somehow? Through decent or…

Mine came with CHC & HSD. Not sure if it was like that for everyone else.

[hazy steeple]

It's locked to "around xmas time" to be able to drop, so no BP.

same as Chill Out, Oh Carol, etc.

[gentle pulsar]

Rivens would you say dtooc or weapn handling as the 3rd satat on Chainkiller ?

[hexed steppe]

cant put dttooc on chainkiller. obv it hsd/handling

[gentle pulsar]

oh ffs. i'm a moron 😂

yeah i just got one with 15% wpn dmg 8 % hsd and skill haste

[hexed steppe]

but dttooc on mmr or with foxs can be beneficial to first shot damage

[gentle pulsar]

foxs foxs not ringing a bell >.>

ooohfox's prayer

durr yeah i have that on it too 😄

wait....wtf ahahaha

i just hit a squad of rikers with the arti turret with the event on

did...did my system go wonky...or was there a hilarious slowmo effect ?XD

[hexed steppe]

yeah they kinda freeze frame when hit

[tulip charm]

Ah the ge is kinda misleading

The 3x explosive damage/range is from the protection breaking

[vestal ibex]

Ahhh, I knew there was a catch. Well that makes it less fun.

[tulip charm]

Yeah so no insane leg speedrunning shenanigans

But its really cool when you get a group of adds in one place and nuke it

[magic pilot]

New event worth farming or should I just keep playing conflict

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[onyx sage]

did i hear legendary

[tawdry flare]

5.11 legendary

[magic pilot]

I'm not sure I heard that

@tawdry flare I have a surprise for you that I've been working on

It's not finished yet

only have mask and bp

[onyx sage]

...

[magic pilot]

work in progress

[tulip charm]

xd

[magic pilot]

rip scammer

[flint wave]

[tawdry flare]

[wild lily]

Anyone got a picture of Red FI build? For legendary conent

[tawdry flare]

Ubusofts ai

[magic pilot]

not worth in leg tbh

[wild lily]

so what to run? im bored of only doing striker and ecilepse

[tulip charm]

Red fi is only good in countdown(barely) and razorback imo

Just a normal healer fi

[magic pilot]

yellow FI is fine

[wild lily]

alr

[magic pilot]

nego

[wild lily]

nego doesnt feel so good for me idk wh

[flint wave]

this the best I got if you want to keep a good amount of healing

[magic pilot]

nego,striker, HB, FI, Eclipse, maybe OD?

[tulip charm]

💀

[flint wave]

ninjabike ik

[wild lily]

gonna get hate for that ninja imafraid

[flint wave]

This is the only build in existence I found ninjabike not to be asscheeks

[magic pilot]

idk looks like ass cheeks to me

[flint wave]

one chem can heal ur average dps build in one burst while still retaining the damsge

only possible with ninjabike

[tulip charm]

Idk man

[magic pilot]

capacitor prob out dps ouro on that build btw if you swap sokolov

capacitor would have 30 more WD

[tulip charm]

and the range

[flint wave]

u can use an ar

[glossy scarab]

Oh man I was so confused. It looked like those were nego pieces for a sec before I realized it's FI

[flint wave]

just gotta switch sokolov for something

[tulip charm]

ceska

[magic pilot]

i have absolutely 0 electronics and it hurts so bad

walker

[tulip charm]

idk i just default to it

[tawdry flare]

Might as well get to 6 skill tier and rest red cores tbh

[magic pilot]

or 1 nego piece

[tawdry flare]

1 prov better

[flint wave]

Nah just with this the only build not instantly healed to full is tanks

[magic pilot]

hes on xbox no heads are getting hit

[tulip charm]

ah right ninja

[flint wave]

More skill tiers unnecessary unless u really need those extra charges

[tulip charm]

well you should

You eat the charges like its nothing

[magic pilot]

1 nego is 15% chc

[tulip charm]

Then you'll run out of chems easily

[tawdry flare]

1 ceska is 10% chx and 10% haz

[flint wave]

console players after 2 days on pc:

[magic pilot]

20 Hazpro isn't doing anything

Also it's because I realized how shit I was on controller lol

[flint wave]

this is not like ur average red fi the healing is actually sustainable

You shouldn't be spamming chems

[magic pilot]

hold up let me cook

[brisk barn]

I don’t hate it

[glossy scarab]

My controller accuracy is like if I tried to one arm an m60 like rambo

[magic pilot]

im so slow

smg ninja

[flint wave]

Diminishing returns: the build

[magic pilot]

could be strong in pvp tbh

[magic pilot]

Ninja smg
body 102,288
body crit 272,086
hsd 173,889
hsd crit 343,687

stronger than meta smg but you lose a ton of survivability since you dont have ad rush or catharsis

[flint wave]

I hope the math for the electrique build isn't including glass cannon

[magic pilot]

no the proc is double companion

[fierce garnet]

Love me some double companion

[grim plank]

What is a good oreo pvp build?

[magic pilot]

You want the easy farm or the best build

@grim plank

Also you need to change your tags if you are on Xbox

[grim plank]

I’m pc🤷🏼‍♂️ question 2 it’s a pve question should I use a 200%+ crit build or striker build with Oreo?

[glossy scarab]

beyond like 180% crit damage kinda isnt worth it if its possible to use a piece that uses another multiplier instead like dta or dttooc

but the stikers will win

[wise swallow]

Striker will win if you can stack it. 200% crit is pointless. swap some crit brands for WD brands

especially in a PVP setting where armour is high

striker is a big if in PVP. some people just struggle to keep it stacked which is fine. Striker is easy to put together and pretty much uses the same pieces as a normal high end build (where there isnt striker ofc). also is this for conflict or DZ?

DZ doesnt really need ceska conflict needs it

[urban latch]

Without more context saying things like "beyond 180% CHD isnt worth it" and "200% CHD is pointless" is really misleading and potentially just wrong.

[hazy steeple]

If anyone needs a solid MMR for a build, there's an sr-1 with innate dtooc at Campus right now.

[urban latch]

Really depends on what your using it for, if you are able to build/maintain striker stacks, and what your "200% CHD" build is

[magic pilot]

Almost every crit build needs ceska btw

Even on smg

@urban latch lmg meta

[urban latch]

That the 3p legmo build?

[magic pilot]

Yep

[tulip charm]

Hot

[urban latch]

Only 3 armor cores with ad rush and unbreakable?

[magic pilot]

Ad rush is only bp I got rn

[wise swallow]

in DZ. striker with ceska gets to 63% CHC without is 53.
with ceska = 12% CHD
if you have soko it would be + 10% WD and -12% CHD
atleast from what ive tested it makes zero differnece

I havent tried with groupo cuz i seem to have horrible luck with groupo chests

[magic pilot]

Ceska is higher dps still being over cap

[wise swallow]

its like half a bullet higher

practically no difference

you can go either way its just not a requirement

[magic pilot]

Mid max is mid max

[magic pilot]

I didn't farm for any of these pieces btw they were all random drops

dont have good ceska knees

[wise swallow]

This an alt? Why bro so low shd

[urban latch]

PC alt

[magic pilot]

New main account

[grim plank]

I had 240chd with the buff from cayotes mask but the build doesn’t do any dmg so I switched back to the striker 🥴

[urban latch]

Again ... Need more context lol

[hazy steeple]

And also to spell Coyotes right.
I've noticed a pattern lately.

[magic pilot]

Switch cayotes for momento

[hazy steeple]

Just don't go rouge and you'll be fine.

[wanton hornet]

was about to mention rouge

[onyx sage]

what's the new game mode? is it decent?

[limpid pelican]

nah it's kinda mid

[worldly mountain]

suggest sniper rifle please?

[versed summit]

Model 700 or SR-1

[worldly mountain]

model 700 I have 10 of those but only one have modified to semi perfect stat, at least. SR-1 only 3

[versed summit]

You don’t need that many tbh

[hazy steeple]

@worldly mountain There's an sr-1 with dtooc (ideal stats) at the Campus Vendor right now. Go buy it, then change the Talent.

[devout agate]

Is perfect adrenaline a good talent for pvp?

[versed summit]

Perfect adrenaline rush is a very good talent for PvP

[devout agate]

Does the matador back pack always give that talent?

[versed summit]

Yep

[worldly mountain]

still extracting some talent and modified stats

[worldly mountain]

waiting for missing talent

[devout agate]

Bet Ty

[devout agate]

Another question sorry should I use contractors gloves for pvp?

[magic pilot]

depends on the build

[hexed steppe]

still worth the buy. mark that as favorite and donate the stashed bs rifles to expertise

[hexed steppe]

poor mans mortar for the alt.

[onyx sage]

"poor"
>sacrifice

[hexed steppe]

well i save good stuff

[onyx sage]

too good for my shd 600 account

[hexed steppe]

no grupo unfortunately

thats a lie, i found a grupo knee and holster in the stash 🤣

thatll be alt 3

another sacrifice too ... ok lazy mans mortar^^

[onyx sage]

first world problems

[shy willow]

[hazy steeple]

@hexed steppe At this point you might as well post the ideal one, just for comparisons sake.

[hexed steppe]

my ideal mortar build
#td2-build-advice message

lazy mans doesnt hit as hard but its close

[grand swan]

Does explosive damage increase the damage of seeker mines also?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[marsh sphinx]

Hi please does incoming repairs boost seeker me mender?

[solar sable]

Please explain yourself better

Idk what me mender means

[tawdry flare]

Incoming repair increases healing from skills only for you

[tawdry flare]

He meant mender seeker mine

[solar sable]

ah that one

[marsh sphinx]

Yes that one

[worldly mountain]

I dont have the critical talent because I suck at finding. headhunter

bad luck mode

[hazy steeple]

Fast Hands isn't worth using on it as MMR's don't really crit anyway, the reason to have it is so that when you get a good Talent, you have the ideal other stats.

A few Optimisations and one recal to a good Talent and that is a perfect div2 MMR, arguably the best.

(sr-1 at the Campus vendor, for the record)

[worldly mountain]

but there is one big problem. it is mandatory for snipers for the talent perfect headhunter and I dont have one since I played this for soooo long

worst luck 2024 wahaha

[onyx sage]

have you been targeting Walker & Harris?

[worldly mountain]

yep and no luck. hopefully for my 70th time I have that luck

and no one will help me wahaha

[onyx sage]

and what specifically have you been doing? countdown challenging?

[worldly mountain]

I think

but always my friends have one except me bahahaha

[onyx sage]

i think you're doing something wrong. it's almost impossible for you to target W&H and not get a decent chainkiller from the end hunters

either you're looking for max rolled chainkiller (which you shouldn't be, just optimize) or you're not doing countdown on challenging and above, or any other thing

[worldly mountain]

I always get chain kill but loot is dropped to them not on me

[onyx sage]

well you always get targeted loot so you always get chainkiller

[worldly mountain]

this is my fate then welp

[onyx sage]

wait no nvm

[worldly mountain]

no one help me

[ancient dune]

🤔 what did u mean by this

Just go pick it up off the ground?

[onyx sage]

you get targeted loot but you're extremely unlucky to not get a named item, it's still possible

[worldly mountain]

can't. it's their loot not mine

[worldly mountain]

impossible for my side

[ancient dune]

?? If you can see it it's your loot

[onyx sage]

if you group up with friends just tell them to drop for you

[worldly mountain]

no loot for me

[worldly mountain]

they stay silent and bragged to me

[onyx sage]

okay do you mean you do get walker & harris pieces but not chainkiller?

[ancient dune]

I don't understand, there should be tons of loot dropping? It's hardly a rare drop

[worldly mountain]

wish to need help but no one

[worldly mountain]

rare low chance drop for me

[worldly mountain]

not a single drop

[onyx sage]

no, i mean walker & harris pieces

do you at least get them at all

[worldly mountain]

not single one

[onyx sage]

then you're doing something wrong bro

did you adjust targeted loot

[ancient dune]

Countdown drops on average 60 pieces per run and roughly half of that is targeted loot

[worldly mountain]

already focused on w&h but no luck. only common loot

[hazy steeple]

Define "common loot".

[onyx sage]

^

[worldly mountain]

nah just unlucky. even their alt has one but m,e

[onyx sage]

i'm thinking there's a possible language barrier issue

[hazy steeple]

I'd say there's a 3:1 odds on favourite there.

[ancient dune]

💀 this one might be doomed

[worldly mountain]

welp just gonna play with incomplete, low dmg and low stat increase char

see ya

[onyx sage]

no, you're not letting us help you

[hazy steeple]

@worldly mountain , what difficulty are you running Countdown on?

[onyx sage]

excluding the beginning hunters, every boss and end hunter WILL DROP 1 targeted loot piece on kill

it's impossible to not get a walker & harris piece

[worldly mountain]

heroic but last week ehm nothing because of irl stuff

[worldly mountain]

not a single loot drop I promise

[onyx sage]

would need to see a clip of that

because it's really hard to believe

[worldly mountain]

I need alternative for perfect headhunt

[hazy steeple]

Are you not collecting them? You need to go and pick up the loot.

[worldly mountain]

always getting other loot not related to focused loot

[onyx sage]

if you're in game, show me your targeted loot selection screen

paste in this chat

[hazy steeple]

When you are in the Countdown match, open your map and pick the Targeted Loot again, make sure it's properly selected.
Because I guarantee you that it's impossible to get no TL from Countdown.

[worldly mountain]

I will try the worse loot area, summit

[hazy steeple]

Summit is excellent.

it just requires Directives.

[worldly mountain]

only drop counterparts

[onyx sage]

not related at all man

[worldly mountain]

even with directives, still no luck

[onyx sage]

dude, we're just asking you to show really simple things to help drill down what you did wrong. if you're not helping us help you just don't complain when you don't really let us help

don't waste our time

[worldly mountain]

just give me ideas. best to worst I'll try

[onyx sage]

_ _

[shy willow]

They already have lol

[hazy steeple]

I mean I'm fine with it, this is kinda my thing.
but do follow the instructions.

[worldly mountain]

yeah

[hazy steeple]

yeah what bino' said. Post a screenshot.

windows has a screenshot tool built in.

"snipping tool"

[worldly mountain]

If I drop bad loot, can you help me?

[onyx sage]

post the screenshot

i'm just going to consider you a troll and give up if you keep being like this tbh

[worldly mountain]

I'm not trolling and this is what I experienced all day

[hazy steeple]

Next time you have the game open, post a screenshot of your Targeted Loot page in Countdown and Summit, tag me and Bino'.

until then, consider the matter on hold.

[shy willow]

Bottom line is you're doing something wrong cuz target loot is guaranteed when you kill named shit and hunters

[worldly mountain]

welp another tinker again and again and again

[magic pilot]

Maybe don't play on normal?

[worldly mountain]

challenging mode rn

well worst of luck hopefully to get decent loot

still got questions

[fickle light]

we know you are on either normal or hard- purple loot cant drop on challenging or heroic

[worldly mountain]

still low dmg snip haha sad

[wanton hornet]

On challenging I can still find some purples every now and then. Could be from world chests, but if I get one from an enemy and I remember to, I'll screenshot. So I wont say it can't drop but it is quite rare at least.

[brisk barn]

I think it’s strictly from the world chests

[marsh sphinx]

Please I just finished my alt what's the best pfe build I'm only asking about the 2 blue attributes that would maximize My survivability in almost all situations

Hazard pro? Incoming repairs health?

[shy willow]

It's a very broad question

What exactly do you want it for

[marsh sphinx]

I don't want armornregen I don't want shields I just want 3 improvised uzina gila.and catharsis what blue talents should I use to maximize me not dying I just run and gun

[shy willow]

Not dying and running and gunning don't pair well

Unless HF

[flint wave]

Adrenaline rush and unbreakable or efficient

for the "not dying" part

imo there's no reason to have individual survivability on this high of a level

[shy willow]

Pretty much

[wanton hornet]

HB has a decent run 'n gun capability too as long as you can get your ACS down their throat and know when to bail.

[dense seal]

Run it with Intimidate.
Actually kind of fun.

[dense seal]

You could go 2 Uzina using The Set Up pair with Scorpio. Perfect opp and Scorpio buff is pretty strong. Add in Catharsis for more damage and healing while 2 Piece Uzina gives 10% AOK

[marsh sphinx]

I really appreciate all your help cab you please just give me the best survivability attributes that would maximize survivability so I can start crafting such as health haz pro incoming repairs? Please 🙏

[dense seal]

You do not want the answer to this.

Health is Time Gated. It does not repair unless over time or through the use of Hunter's Fury/Firewall and theses are on kill talents.
Haz Pro outside of PvP is kind of hard to justify as, aside from, the Special Ammo Directive, not alot really does any meaningful Hazard/Status. Maybe Foam boys from True Sons.
Incoming repairs is nice, but only really shines if you have a dedicated healer in your team.
And again, Reapir skill is nice, but only really shines if you are the healer.

So in terms of best attributes for survivability - Crit Chance, Crit Damage, Head shot.
Your survivability while in a fight is always up for debate.
Your survivability when not in a fight is always 100%.
Best trick, kill things faster.

[marsh sphinx]

Got you so ill go all crits and catharsis

Thanks that explained everything to me a lot

[acoustic coral]

Here's the thing, in order to play - and survive - on heroic you need to balance your stats.
Do you play solo? Grouped? What type of content is this build for?
If you go all blue cores, all blue attributes, you're gonna be killing things slower.
Look at it this way:
Heroic enemies does x amount of damage pr. bullet (simplified).
If, for example, you're on a full red striker build, your time to kill (TTK) on a random enemy would be 1 second (+-). Likewise, the enemy would kill you in, maybe 5 bullets.
If you increase your survivability / start swapping out gear, your own TTK will be slower - increasing the amount of bullets you will take.

My head is a little hazy this morning, so I apologise if the above is not perfectly clear or is missing out information.

That being said, here's some ideas for builds - solo - that will give you a bit of added survivability while still having a reasonable TTK:
Generally, you'll want to maximize CHC (50-60% with your chosen weapon) and CHD (130%+)

• 4pc striker, Memento backpack, Ceska Obliterate chest (weapon of your choice, AR/SMG).
• 4pc Heartbreaker - variations here (have Heartbreaker chest), Memento backpack, Ceska as the last piece.

I can't tell you what the best balance is for Red vs Blue cores is in these builds, however the armor regen from Memento is nicer at higher blue cores.
Important note from the guide: Note: If your using blue armor cores and not running a shield, those armor cores are not worth running.
Gear mods: Either CHC or CHD, but you could also put on Protection From Elites and become tankier

With all that being said
The best defense is a good offense. If things are dead, they cannot shoot you

[marsh sphinx]

No ur explanation is perfect thanks a lot man. I got my build since 2019 dps all red.

[timid plume]

What comes out on top damage wise in a incursion like paradise lost, Striker build with elmo or with ouroboros?

[urban latch]

Ouro by far

[dense seal]

Ouroboros - Chameleon - Big Horn - King Breaker - Famas Flatline (if using OC Pulse) about 3 other AR's, again is using OC Pulse, then maybe Elmo.

[timid plume]

Any specific setup for the ouroboros that stands out for it? Fox prayers or something?

[shy willow]

Literally anything with a DPS focus

Strikers best though of course generally

I hear it's broken on PvP too

[wanton hornet]

I got roflstomped by a rogue in 30 DZ with an Ouro yesterday and the day before (same guy) so can confirm.
Backfire, Capacitor, Ouro, & Scorpio can get downgraded and St Elmo straight up drops. For some reason Lady Death can't.

[gentle lichen]

Incursion setup but with blues

Absolutely insane

[shy willow]

I heard something once about it outdpsing a FAMAS with 6 blues

[gentle lichen]

Most definitely

[flint wave]

and acs and scorpio(six12) does even more damage then ouro

[shy willow]

Good idea, let's nerf pestilence

[onyx sage]

six12 gaming

[tawdry flare]

Let's nerf 5.11

[shy willow]

if 5.11 gets nerfed it might finally shift the meta away from it

its been dominating for so long the playerbase doesn't know any better

[urban latch]

Sort of. Only in the context where your shooting a target well over 7 times so your getting the 7th shot buff, so on any non-boss target the ouro is still better.

[tawdry flare]

@urban latch dis
D you see my grenade only Lincoln run

[urban latch]

Like standard grenade?

[tawdry flare]

Yeah

[urban latch]

Oof

[tawdry flare]

Firewall nades

[tawdry flare]

It is linked in vroom

[shy willow]

was this some kind of mad bomber or collector build

[tawdry flare]

Was trying dua nades only

[tawdry flare]

Collector + festive delivery

[shy willow]

oh god😭

[covert meadow]

What mask could I use if I don't have coyotes for 4 piece striker?

On chest setup

[onyx sage]

grupo

[covert meadow]

Chd n chc @onyx sage

[onyx sage]

yes

[covert meadow]

Ok tyvm

[sudden fog]

not played this game in so long but idk what i would do if i did

[vestal ibex]

Shoot stuff, loot stuff.

[tulip charm]

God I hope for alphabridge 2.0 this coming pts

🤤

[magic pilot]

Yes good luck

[grim plank]

how do i create the 1shot build in raids?

[flint wave]

I hope for set wirh crit chance crit damage 1pc 2pc

[magic pilot]

You guys are smoking something good

We are probably gonna get a brand that increases skill health as 1pc and has headshot dmg for 2pc

New gearset will focus entirely on LMGs.... but only the suppression mechanic and making it worse

[flint wave]

it's called hopium xxl

[glossy scarab]

at least i wont have to waste any pts time rerolling the third attribute on every exotic weapon to see the results, like i did last time

[tulip charm]

Which one

[grim plank]

with the regulus or the revenous

i equipped the pulse now

[tulip charm]

well I need to mention which boss aswell

gray and fieser nego
weasel and buddy and lucy is dch
razorback is 2 different ones

[grim plank]

im a beginner to the build so yeah haha i use the headshot pulse dodge holster, regulus, chainkiller

[river radish]

Is Chameleon good to make a build off of?

My first exotic drop. lol

[grim plank]

is hit 20mil damage now

[wise swallow]

Chameleon is good on paper but in actual use its just bad

keeping all the buffs is next to impossible in normal open world content and requires far too much effort

[river radish]

Gotcha. Was just curious lol. I’m trying to farm for Kingsbreaker anyway.. slapped it on to try it out and seemed decent at hard level open world

[wise swallow]

anything is decent in hard tbh, can use cham if you find it fun

[versed summit]

Problem with the Chameleon IMO is that people compare its damage to an AR when it really should be compared to an SMG, and it isn’t that good when you look at SMGs

[river radish]

Yeah I saw that. The damage drop was insane from my ar. It was like almost 40k

[magic pilot]

My name gives my opinion away

[devout agate]

Does the capacitor with all skill tier do more damage than the ouro

[versed summit]

What’s better for a IH regen tank build, 3 pc Gila, 1 pc Belstone, Emperor’, and Matador? Or 3 pc Gila, 2 pc Golan, 1 pc Belstone? Does the extra armor from Matador beat the extra .5% regen from golan? I think it would.

[urban latch]

There's basically a unique setup for each 1 shot, so you need to be more specific about which boss your talking about

[versed summit]

Depends on the build, but it likely may, usability is an issue though.

[magic pilot]

it will on the right hybrid build i believe

[devout agate]

Should I go for ceska chest with unbreakable or gruppo chest with unbreakable

[versed summit]

Depends on the build.

[magic pilot]

it depends on how consistently you can get 3 ad rush procs

[tulip charm]

wouldnt you use protector?

[magic pilot]

its basically 6% more bonus armor vs .5% regen

[versed summit]

I’ve seen it used but typically I’m tanking without a shield. Rav bonus armor goes nuts

[magic pilot]

some conflict builds i saw today

[tulip charm]

for fieser and williams?

[magic pilot]

EB intimidate guy was going nuts 9-1

[versed summit]

I’d use that on Morozova for key tank. Fieser and Williams I’m not sure I can proc Ad rush enough to make it worth it.

I still take ad rush typically though

[tulip charm]

wait you can survive the turrents from train with that build?

[versed summit]

I don’t know yet tbh. I think so though

[tulip charm]

Honestly just run a shield since it better to have 2 shields especially for when you're under the train each wave change

[versed summit]

I still run a shield, you do want the shield for that, I’m just not relying on it for tanking. I can, but probably won’t. We’re also not planning to run a stagger tank, so it’ll likely just be one shield.

[tulip charm]

that just my 2 cents. Key tank is pretty easy especially if you get a good group with headhunters

[versed summit]

Yeah that’s what it’s looking like. I don’t think we’re gonna do Headhunters though. This is fixing to be our clan and another clan’s first IH clear.

[rich lotus]

What’s the hardest hitting DPS Iron Horse Raid build?

[flint wave]

Striker

[urban latch]

What part of IH, most of it you ideally wouldn't be running striker, although striker is good enough

[versed summit]

HE red is typically the best DPS build for IH still.

[vestal ibex]

Striker boss 4 if you're doing normal is pretty good. Stack on the train.

[rich lotus]

Yeah I was gonna say I thought 3 piece Providence, Grupo, Coyotes, etc. No?

[rich lotus]

HE stand for?

[versed summit]

High end, the gold gear

[flint wave]

y tho

[urban latch]

I'd still recommend HH on Morozova for any damage role, and even if it's just a standard DPS role I'v seen too many people get distracted trying to keep stacks up on the train and get wreaked by mortars. Or more commonly they just don't keep stacks up at all

[flint wave]

Is the enemy volume that low

[urban latch]

Yes

[flint wave]

bruh

then I don't need HE then

[urban latch]

High end with a DCH and regulus is just incredibly effective for so much if IH (and still DH)

[rich lotus]

Alright so let’s say Sacrifice, The Gift, 3rd Providence, Grupo. So with this what else would you guys suggest? Coyotes? Or Foxes, or Contractors?

[flint wave]

My LFG groups didn't go for one shots in DH so i was able to dps and maintain 200 stack pretty fine on the bosses after boomer

[rich lotus]

I love Strikers but only in Incursion, Countdown, etc.

[versed summit]

Fox’s for sure. Coyote’s is good too but the real question is grupo or contractor’s. They’re both fairly equivalent

[rich lotus]

Which one’s additive? Grupo? And which one’s multiplicative? Contractors?

[versed summit]

They’re both additive and multiplicative.

[rich lotus]

Foxes too?

[versed summit]

Yes

[versed summit]

I’d recommend checking the pinned spreadsheet and looking at the standard Red DPS build, that’ll help you decide what you need to take and where.

[rich lotus]

Maybe it’s just me but when I tested out 60% CHC as opposed to 54% CHC with that extra 12% CHD I feel like I’m doing 300K more damage.

[hexed steppe]

Do chc x chd for both setups

[magic pilot]

Best thing to do is post a pic of your build

The high end setups have been tested for years so people here know them super well

[tulip charm]

Its due to coyetes

the chc is being wasted if you're running 60% chc

[rich lotus]

That’s what I feel too. I never go under 50% CHC and never over 54% CHC because that extra 12% CHD is noticeable.

[hexed steppe]

Is coyotes being run on the build?

If not most likely better @ 60

[magic pilot]

Not for the raid

[rich lotus]

Can anybody tell me if Coyotes stacks? I heard it does. But is that if every player in the group has a Coyotes mask? Because 4 Coyotes in a normal 4 person would be crazy. And 8 Coyotes in a raid would be OP.

[magic pilot]

You'd still want 50

[brisk barn]

3 people running it stacks all 3 buffs for the team

No further buffs stack

[wise swallow]

Buffs dont repeat. meaning if 2 players are actively proccing the same buff youll only get the buff once.
ex. 2 players within 15m will only grant 25% CHD. not 50%

[magic pilot]

@wise swallow I'm cooking a regen build up

[wise swallow]

idk if its 15m or 10 but you get the idea

[wise swallow]

oh boy

just regen? or other blue?

[brisk barn]

Just for note. Strikers only Iron Horse

[wise swallow]

what the tuna

[magic pilot]

% regen and headshot handling rolls

[wise swallow]

stop cooking

get rid of the handling for the love of god

[urban latch]

This is what thinking strikers is bis for everything does to people's brains. It's a sad condition

[brisk barn]

And we did half

[brisk barn]

ONLY DH

[magic pilot]

I'm making a separate one for hazpro

I mostly want handling for bighorn reload

[brisk barn]

But IH is PURELY for the lols

[magic pilot]

You think regen hazpro is worth it?

[urban latch]

In DH speedruns there's 1 role that uses 4p striker, do you know what role that is?

[brisk barn]

Isnt it some sort of ad clear on RB

[urban latch]

The sniper build on RB

[wise swallow]

idk man how much reload is that really gonna save. I made one with CHC rolls which got to like 50~ CHC or something. Dropped BTK on average by 2 bullets, id take that over 1s faster reload

[brisk barn]

Are we not using tip anymore?

[wise swallow]

yea

regen haz pro works well

but it will always have the bottleneck of headshot only

[brisk barn]

Also I’d like to note how far coordination changes team based gameplay

[urban latch]

Tips got nerfed and strikers is more consistent for sniping

[brisk barn]

If only my League teammates could ready set fire 😔

[magic pilot]

Could go smg regen hazpro

[wise swallow]

shit

it loses 99% of the time

[magic pilot]

2 ceska, 1 yaahl, belstone 2 golan?

[wise swallow]

BH gets you very close to normal DPS builds assuming you can hit all heads. SMG haz pro regen is miles from it

[magic pilot]

100% hazpro tho

Yea true

I'll send a pic of what I got so far

[wise swallow]

thats the only reason I like haz pro regen with BH. If I didnt want to use BH id just say mandatory efficient on a normal build or bring a cava

efficient will save you long enough to out heal status

[magic pilot]

I played against a 4 stack earlier today with cav and it was so annoying because I was running Iron lung

nothing has been rolled yet btw

[wise swallow]

if you have a cava player with tardi you can basically run the meta while also being immune while also having unbrekable while also having obliterate. its easily best build in game simply cuz its a counter to literally everything

you can flex it to counter mortars too

[magic pilot]

i have a pretty good hunter killer too

[wise swallow]

this is similar to what i used to run

I just used everyday instead of HK/unbreakable

[magic pilot]

i might have one to swap to

what spec?

[wise swallow]

I ran firewall mainly surv if need be

[magic pilot]

You dont use it now?

[wise swallow]

with efficient you can use firewall to push and then insta kit to keep above 50%

[wise swallow]

I dropped regen. Just use haz pro and headshot now

[magic pilot]

yea thats the next one im farming

theres just so much status in conflict on EU servers

[devout iris]

Does anyone know a good haz pro build?

[magic pilot]

pvp?

[devout iris]

Pve cause I'm not sure if I should use yellow gear or the cavalier gear set

[magic pilot]

depends on what you are wanting to use it for

[devout iris]

The backfire smg

[wise swallow]

200% HSD. 80 haz pro. (contractors are still missed rolled)

ive been swapping between ad rush and wicked

on one hand I like wicked cuz i spam fire sticky but at the same time Adrush is amazing for survivability

[magic pilot]

i was wondering how you proc wicked

try concussion?

[tulip charm]

i mean

you can refresh wicked with emp sticky

isnt it 20 sec?

[wise swallow]

Concussions not bad either

I dont have a prov one tho

I only have ad and wicked rn

I just happened to have a wicked haz pro and headshot sitting in stash so i decided to try it out

still undecided

[magic pilot]

you want to stay at 1.8?

i think swaping yaahl to mask and running fox might do slightly more dps but maybe not since youd need hazpro rolleed

[wise swallow]

yea

[magic pilot]

bighorn just has that much dmg

[wise swallow]

I can do that if i drop to 1.7

[wise swallow]

Hits for 150k with no BH stacks

it shreds if I hit my shots

[wise swallow]

it probably would be better

[magic pilot]

ok i got it done

once i get more mats i can roll all this to hsd/haz

if i want to run belstone chest i need to get a better golan mask

[devout iris]

Anyway... should I use cavalier for my haz pro build?

Or no

[magic pilot]

are you running this in a group?

[devout iris]

Solo

Mostly solo pve

[magic pilot]

high end

either striker hazpro or high end

[wise swallow]

why are you running haz pro in the first place

[magic pilot]

backfire

[wise swallow]

oh did he say backfire

[magic pilot]

yea

[devout iris]

Yes

[wise swallow]

oops

[magic pilot]

i love that ic3so just lurks all the time lmao

[wise swallow]

always wathcing

[versed summit]

Dang really gotta call me out like that

[onyx sage]

yellow striker

[magic pilot]

you know whats funny odder? the only pieces i have for your headshot hazpro build is the yaahl knees and picaros

[versed summit]

😦 lol

[magic pilot]

i guess the chest too lol

[onyx sage]

waiting for more solo videos

[wise swallow]

ofc

[devout iris]

So....

[versed summit]

WIP. Been focused on raiding

[wise swallow]

Had to clean out my stash about a week ago. I had 11 everyday carriers not including the 4 in my inventory.

theres no way you dont have the a good everyday

[magic pilot]

mid

[wise swallow]

very mid

[devout iris]

Yup, I would rather have full red or have CHD and CHC on it

[wise swallow]

mine isnt that great tbh

[magic pilot]

for headshot build so its got good rolls. they are just low

[magic pilot]

i have fox bp so i might run hazpro fox till i can run contractors

[wise swallow]

everyone but prodigy has a good everyday

[magic pilot]

dont make me boot up the playstation lol

i got the bp for everyday carry

and hunter killer

[wise swallow]

theres a blueprint for everyday ?

[magic pilot]

in descent

[wise swallow]

L

never playing a minute of descent

[versed summit]

Contractor’s just better because of how it multiplies? Or how much it’s active?

[magic pilot]

dtooc on gun with contractors is higher dmg yea

by like .5% lol

[wise swallow]

yea its tiny

[versed summit]

Literally lol

[wise swallow]

but we like our autism here

[magic pilot]

gonna get a better mask and then its time to run it

then ill passively farm for the hazpro/hsd

@wise swallow you run EB on different setup? i need builds for it once i get it on pc

[wise swallow]

I run EB on everything that isnt haz pro

this is fun to run

[magic pilot]

normal crit build and a headshot version?

[wise swallow]

I just run crit now

Striker, and normal crit

[magic pilot]

striker is so good rn

[wise swallow]

Ive gotten quite good with it

[magic pilot]

you play dz or conflict?

[wise swallow]

both conflict when im solo DZ when i have a group

[magic pilot]

gotcha

[wise swallow]

I run heartbreaker sometimes

[magic pilot]

interesting

[wise swallow]

but its honestly rare

striker just better

[magic pilot]

if you didnt have to lose stacks to get bonus armor HB would be fine

[versed summit]

It’s crazy that red HB used to up there with Strikers, and then people realized it was just worse…

[magic pilot]

HB was stronger at one point

by a lot

[versed summit]

Yeah, but they haven’t made changes for a long while IIRC

[wise swallow]

yea, as you hit max dmg your armour just disappears. kinda sucks id rather have striker with eff

or unbreakable

[magic pilot]

HB on release would outdps a red striker with like 4 blue

[glossy scarab]

yeah 4 blue HB was stronger than all red striker by a good amount

i lost all my videos when my last pc went to heaven

[magic pilot]

i have an old stream running floor 10 legendary with it

over 2.5 easily

with 2 or 3 blue core

@wise swallow

[wise swallow]

w

[magic pilot]

now i just need the hazpro non regen build

[onyx sage]

yeah 100 stack HB exponential is basically 2.7

with vigilance it's another 25%

[magic pilot]

wtf is this bs

[versed summit]

That’s so broke

[magic pilot]

playing against a clan with them on my team too? lmao

[onyx sage]

now the closest thing we have to it is striker 200 which is 3

[rich lotus]

im super bored of gear sets and stacking mechanics, i really hope D3 is a revamped (and better thought out) version of D2 launch gear. talents everywhere holstered talents etc

the build diversity was insane

[wise swallow]

your bored of gear based games.

stacking mechanics and gear sets is what makes division division

i get what you mean but i doubt holstered talents are gonna magically make you love the game

[onyx sage]

i mean stacking or ramp-up in general is the only way you can make the player unlock strong buffs after putting in enough input

[versed summit]

I didn’t play for gear 1.0, but tbh it seemed over complicated. Gear 2.0 seems a lot more manageable IMO. That being said, gearsets suck IMO. Kills build diversity.

There’s so many ways to build a HE Red, and like 5 ways to build a good Striker’s. Just sucks IMO.

[onyx sage]

else you get full power with no effort which means there's basically no power ceiling

or you are probably defining "stacking" more specifically and i'm being too general

[urban latch]

Something about hoarding gear you bought at vendors because they sold some items that had a higher WD stat you could ever get to drop naturally and needing a level 14 alt to farm gear mods wasn't the ideal system lol

[onyx sage]

div1 needing you to buy dte mods instead of them just being farmable is also stupid

[versed summit]

Yeah that’s very mid. Not new player friendly at all.

[rich lotus]

there were obviously problems with how you FOUND gear and the whole "gear system gear protocol blah blah blah" was pretty bad ill concede that

but finding some weird piece with 2700 skill power on it so you could use a killer skill mod on a gun build was kind of cool IMO

[stoic atlas]

im recently returning to div2 and was wondering if someone could help me with a few build im on pc (if that helps)

[solar sable]

Check the 📌 Spreadsheet for more build-making info

[magic pilot]

Gear 1.0 was busted

You could get 100% hazpro from just hollowman

[versed summit]

That’s nuts

[magic pilot]

Used to have perfect insulated

[versed summit]

oh dang, I thought that was just a thing they made for Descent lol.

I guess allegro, Optimized and such were also talents?

[onyx sage]

yes

[queen gyro]

ok. I now know why a turret build on liberty island will get everyone mad at you. I guess I'm not a very good player - and I don't have anyone to go social with... so for solo play in story, understanding that my play style thus far has been find a hole to hide and let my turret and marksman rifle do the work... any advice?

Binoculars says weapon damage build. I prefer assault rifles... I'm a new level 40, so I don't have much in the way of set geat or anythign but high-end stuff.

[magic pilot]

What's your current build?

[hexed steppe]

keep a couple builds around and youll be able to get through just about anything.

general purpoose- striker dps. good everywhere and nobody complains. this will be top damage most of the time.

marksman/sniper build. 4x hotshot, chain killer named walker harris chest, airaldi bag with vigilance talent. headshot /handling everywhere. this will eat open world/missions/summit for breakfast but may not be best for incursion/raids/countdown

turret drone is ok for openworld and most missions.

eclipse fire is a good team support and does a ton of damage. burns entire rooms.

check out the pinned spreadsheet in this channel. there are a lot of builds, all proven and up to date

[placid lion]

What’s Best route for a more tanky build that still does a bit of dps? Running HB and HF builds but looking for something more thick

[onyx sage]

blue striker

[junior vessel]

St Elmo’s engine is hard to find

[solar sable]

Not really

[placid lion]

Just farm countdown with AR’s focused

[hexed steppe]

well 4th alt has a mortar build now. its killing me not having another cap tho

[onyx sage]

whale

[tawdry flare]

But it was better than farming pre 13

[urban latch]

It really wasn't lol

[tawdry flare]

It was imo easier to get

[urban latch]

Everyone just filled their stash with things they bought on mass from vendors because there was no recal library

[tulip charm]

I hated the rng base damage during gear 1.0 (I only played it for a month before wony)

[tawdry flare]

Well yeah but the optimization didn't suck ass I am talking about div1

At least we didn't have game breaking meta in div1

[urban latch]

What? The whole conversation was about gear 1.0 in div2

And 6p strikers in div1 is FAAAR more broken than anything we've got in div2

[shy willow]

Any 6 piece set from div one will completely stomp it's equivalent in div2

[rich lotus]

I am trying out a 4pc tip of spear + 2pc Grupo for the GE event, I was wonder which skills to take. Somthing like -> (Sticky bomb EMP or Explosive) + Pulse Jammer for EMP. any suggestions?

[tulip charm]

Jammer

[rich lotus]

what would you suggest for the second skill?

[tulip charm]

Hmm not sure since jammer is there to proc the explosions and tip is there to finish the job so its up to you

[tulip charm]

What time they usually drop pts patch notes

[onyx sage]

a day before it drops?

i don't remember

[tulip charm]

Ig its when preload starts

[devout agate]

Do I build the capacitor with all skill tiers?

[solar sable]

preferably with a Skill build, yes

[tawdry flare]

I thought it was div1

[tawdry flare]

Naa we don't have one shot mechanic's in div1 no cc like foam we have good and robust healing and whacky ways to play and ofc striker is awesome in div1

[shy willow]

You can still one shot most things in div 1 with hunters faith

And firecrest is basically all the CC you need

Reclaimer completely busted too

[tawdry flare]

HF is meh I would rather have sentry I don't think we have something broken like headhunter in div1 and snipers were okayaish iirc

[shy willow]

Yeah tbh sentry is better

MDR solos

[solar sable]

Can a SRS-1 (that's what it's called i think?) fit in Hotshot?

[onyx sage]

absolutely

both srs and sr-1

[solar sable]

I will love this for shd farming

[devout agate]

Hi can someone send me a capacitor build

[solar sable]

Wait, change that WD to a Skill tier!!!

[inland plinth]

so just wondering, i just now got the nemesis, should i reroll it to have DTTOC on it or something else?

[solar sable]

Yep

[inland plinth]

for a sniper build?

[onyx sage]

you definitely can, not the highest priority because you won't use it much often

[shy willow]

If you run tech you can afford to have a red core

[solar sable]

Right, but I shared the wrong ss

[inland plinth]

wdym? its a sniper build and it'll be my main

[onyx sage]

because it's mostly only used to get first hh stack and then transferred to a faster firing mmr like sr-1 or m700

you don't need nemesis to one-shot legendary enemies

so you might as well do it with others that are faster and can still one-shot

but still yes, you want dttooc on nemesis

[shy willow]

Yeah you kick it off with nemesis then swap to a faster MMR cuz that thing is slowwww

[solar sable]

why did I not think of this when I was trying to get Bighorn 😭

[onyx sage]

yeyeyeye stack with nemesis then hotswap to bighorn

[shy willow]

I wonder how hard max bighorn stacks with max headhunter stacks hit with semi auto bighorn

[gentle lichen]

For pvp it is absolutely necessary

a bodycrit on a 3/3 build can do 2.2m

[inland plinth]

the buff doesn't carry over from nemesis though

[tulip charm]

Hh buff does carry over.

[inland plinth]

it doesn't for a friend of mine, she's using hotshot with perfect HH

does the nemesis buff only show up when doing a full charged shot maybe?

[dull ermine]

Is dttoc capacitor worth using for anything other than oxi

[hazy steeple]

The dtooc stat on it isn't really a factor here, it's the best stat on almost every gun in div2.
Other uses for the Capacitor though are things like a Skill DPS (turret/drone) setup, stuff like that.

[solar lynx]

I've just started playing recently and I feel like I'm not grasping the whole build thing correctly. I run around mostly solo so chose a skill build to try and learn the ins and outs. Just wondering if I could have some constructive criticism. I honestly feel super overwhelmed

[solar sable]

You're alright for asking, dw.
Do you want to use the capacitor or the skills more than your weapons?

[solar lynx]

I do enjoy getting kills myself so wouldn't mind using the capacitor a bit more. thanks for the reply by the way, I was pointing in this direction rather than the youtube road. I'm currently going through the pinned posts on builds trying to learn a bit more so hopefully i wont ask any silly questions haha

[solar sable]

thank God you preferred asking here rather than watching pure clickbait.
So, shout-out to local for sharing the first photo build, it's made for the Hollywood GE.

[dense seal]

Everybody stop.

[fickle light]

Silly questions or not, we wont make fun of you. The game is confusing as hell sometimes, no harm in asking "is damage from my weapons 'weapon damage'?" or similar questions

[solar sable]

Don't be afraid to ask, we all were in that position more than once

[dense seal]

@solar lynx You are wanting to learn yes?
That set you have one, the 4 pieces with the same symbol. Can you read them for me please.

We are going to teach you to fish, rather than just give you fish.

[solar lynx]

yes! I'm so keen to learn rather than answers just given to me. I'd like to understand what I'm doing and why if that makes sense. I'll jump on in one second and let you know. I am very very new to this game so what details did you want from the gear? what set it was or something else?

[dense seal]

I am just trying to get you into the habit of reading the Gear/Brands.
I see a lot of new player loot at a gear piece and just see the Red, Blue and Yellows.
Yellow = Good with Skills. This is correct.
But if you read the gear set you have one it will tell you what type of skills it is Godlike with.

[dense seal]

With what you showed here, I would take this on heroic.,

Easily.

[solar lynx]

oh really? I've only been playing on hard. I'm assuming playing challenging or higher would be more beneficial?
Eclipse biohazard mask - 15,668 health, 10.7 crit dam
Eclipse backpack - 7.6 explosive res, 10.5 skill haste
""gloves - 2.8 % crit hit chance

[dense seal]

The Set bonues

[solar lynx]

i realised that after i pressed enter. sorry. been a loooong day
2+ status effects
3+ skill haste and haz protection

[dense seal]

Yep.
And the 4 piece is Kill with Status, and the Status spreads.

Now, after reading that . . . Why are you running a turret?

[solar lynx]

I've noticed that works well with the seeker mines. Honestly. Ive got no idea haha. i haven't really played around much with the others, only the drone and hive

[dense seal]

Does the Turret apply a status to the enemy?

[solar lynx]

nope. so need to focus on something that applies status ? seems so obvious now that you say it

[dense seal]

Winning.
So, look though your skills and find the ones that apply a status.
Go to the Range in thr White House and test a few out. See what you like

[solar lynx]

i really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me. things are starting to make a lot more sense.

[dense seal]

You're most welcome.

[tame flax]

they don't make fun here, just passive aggressive

[hexed steppe]

You may wet yourself a little when you see how well fire pairs with eclipse 🔥

[solar lynx]

The explosions are very very satisfying. Almost wee worthy

[snow ingot]

Hmmm. Ortiz exuro, eclipse, or ongoing directive. Main goal is status effects

My idea is vile mask, pestilence, then status gear set.

[shy willow]

Eclipse

[snow ingot]

That backpack talent does go crazy.
Pyromaniac m4 and Scorpio on Ortiz sounds fun too. Ongoing with carnage negev.
I got it. I’ll do em all

S tier advice. Thanks

[hexed steppe]

Eclipse is the only set that's vile worthy.
Pestilence isnt considered a status.
Scorpio really good for procing ongoing directive

[snow ingot]

Ohh that stinks for pesty.

[hexed steppe]

Its tick scales from weapon damage and amps. Fits decent in a crit type dps build

[snow ingot]

That’s dumb. But understandable. Pyromaniac, carnage, and the boring tickle me elmo it is

[snow ingot]

Would be a red focused build I think. What skills are good for that. Ima guess a shield and I got nothing after that

[shy willow]

Revive hive, decoy

[onyx sage]

HH scales off your last shot's damage, if you don't charge up nemesis enough your damage won't be that high so swapping to the other mmr won't give as strong a buff

that said you probably don't need 100% charged for it to cap out your other mmr's damage

[tawdry flare]

Hey dod where is my promised 5.11 build

[shy willow]

[wanton hornet]

3p Belstone, 2p 5.11, 1p R&K, bulwark, artificer, TDI-Kard, sit in corner of shower and cry.

[versed summit]

Incoming doesn’t buff artificer last I checked lol

[wanton hornet]

Every bit helps 🤷‍♂️. Bonus for getting a FI friend

[blissful rampart]

yea it doesnt. incoming only buffs heals (from skills) to your agents body and artificier cant heal your body

[wanton hornet]

When would one really use incoming repairs? Solo builds?

[blissful rampart]

never tbh

[versed summit]

very very niche. I can't think of a situation where you'd use a tank and take Incoming over PFE or resistance mods. However, if you're making a build that is focused on self heals, stacking Incoming and Skill repair is the way to go. You basically never need a build like that though.

[wanton hornet]

I saw the stat, thought it seemed quite specific, and then never looked back at it. So about what I figured then.

[hexed steppe]

kinda funny that repair skills work with artificer but incoming repairs dont

[versed summit]

It is odd. I think it should apply to your proxies as well.

[hexed steppe]

it really should

[wet yacht]

I just jumped into world tier mechanics and pretty much clueless about gear score stuff. rn now I just keep updating my recal. library with talents like that. I just wondering what build is easy to play with at this moment

[versed summit]

do you have the Warlords of New York DLC?

[wet yacht]

yep I have it and didnt go straight into it yet

[versed summit]

ok then, basically just go through world tiers, do the extra story missions if you'd like and don't worry about a build till you've finished WONY

[blissful rampart]

also FYI the DLC removes world tier system and goes back to normal levels (levels 31-40 max) for gear

[wet yacht]

thanks

[wanton hornet]

(I'm) going slightly off channel but, the lack of lvl40 style world difficulty settings is quite apparent at 30 once you've been used to them. Conversely, I find the lack of linked bounties wierd too.

[blissful rampart]

i dont follow

like the being able to set world to say heroic or challenging at lv 30?

[wanton hornet]

Ya. WT5 is a faceroll in comparison. It's effectively still on normal with default lvl1 cp's

[tawdry flare]

Hey azure are you ready fory dua Grenade only run

[blissful rampart]

oof

[onyx sage]

PTS patch notes: https://trello.com/c/KdD6QhhO

it looks like 3p hotshot 2p breaking point chainkiller is the new bis mmr build

and brazen is a competitive shotgun talent to fast hands on six12

although, pummel still performs better if you can get 3 kills

mb i'm stupid, 3p hotshot 2p habs still best because vigilance

wait, 2p hotshot 2p breaking point airaldi chainkiller

ah i have to break out the calculator for this

@ancient dune do you wanna math out the new set

[ancient dune]

uhh I don't think it's better than habs is it

[versed summit]

Is breaking point going to be useful as a gearset though? if it's just additive weapon damage it seems very mid. Seems like it could be fun with an 1886 tho.

[ancient dune]

it'll definitely be amp

[onyx sage]

4p highly likely amp

considering how often they accidentally make stuff amp nowadays

[ancient dune]

based on past set designs a conditional buff designed in this way will be amp for sure

[onyx sage]

2p habs is 20% mmr, 2p bp is 25% mmr

if you don't need the handling that is

[shy willow]

I mean it's 5 percent extra MMR damage right

[onyx sage]

it's just 3p hotshot + something vs 2p hotshot + 2p bp now

30% hsd is actually a decent chunk even if it doesn't factor into hh bonus

[ancient dune]

so we're talking 15% hsd vs 5% mmr again 💀

[urban latch]

Even if it's an amp it seems really underwhelming and I think a high end setup will still easily outperform it...

[ancient dune]

Yeah I'm of the same opinion the uptime seems very bad and the damage seems mediocre

[shy willow]

gotta break out the calculator

[acoustic coral]

Me: Excited about the brand and gear set, because they talk about rifle
MSV: Decided to do stupid shit like with TotS so it relies on reloads
Go to hell with the crap, come on.

I'm excited for the kneepads though, perfect fit for Backfire/Lady Death shenanigans

[urban latch]

The backpack and chest talents being pretty shit really hurt it too because that means your using high ends instead, so no foxes knees...

[flint wave]

Where crit stats on breaking point

[ancient dune]

Realistically it's a 50% amp uptime at best providing a maximum buff lower than strikers for a weapon type that was already fairly anemic

[versed summit]

doesn't stack with lady death, I guess it's more consistent speed, but i dunno

[shy willow]

I wonder how it'd perform with dread

[onyx sage]

now we will finally know if movement speed is a bucket

[acoustic coral]

oh, god damn, I missed that. wth, thought they would finally make some awesome open world roaming build

[ancient dune]

I'll run the numbers 1 sec

High chance of no change though

[flint wave]

who runs lady death

[acoustic coral]

I would if the new kneepads didn't come with the notion that there's a total cap of 20% movement speed

[ancient dune]

@onyx sage what are we comparing to, 2 hotshot 2 habs 1 airaldi chain?

[onyx sage]

yeah i think that's theoretical bis

[versed summit]

the PvPers are thankful im sure lol

[acoustic coral]

PvP'ers would just use the new shotgun ^^

[blissful rampart]

oh god... new items for the sheet again 😭

[shell tendon]

Henlo anyone has a build for the Hollywood rework i could use ? Cant find something neat in the spreadsheet

Sorry for asking something that may have been answered before

[shy willow]

there's a mortar build in there

[ancient dune]

the cap really did raise microscopically

[onyx sage]

WE DID IT

[ancient dune]

woooo

[versed summit]

GET YOUR META HERE BOYS

[flint wave]

useless rip

[ancient dune]

you can see the tradeoffs on the no stacks shot where the initial damage goes down because of the loss of 15% hsd

[flint wave]

wake me up when elite minitank legendary 4p breakpoint🛌

[shy willow]

RIP HABS

[ancient dune]

but that 5% mmr damage goes hard again on the cap damage

plus this setup has 16% less weapon handling which is very unfortunate

[acoustic coral]

The kneepads seem ideal for an open-world Backfire build though - if only the Backfire stacked differently and wasn't such a boring pain to use.
It's somewhat sad the 20% from Lady Death doesn't stack with say the 10% from the vaulting with the new kneepads. Not sure if you could give yourself status effect without Backfire tho?
Imagine, open-world (PvE), 20% MS Lady Death, 10% MS vaulting from Acosta's Knees, 10% from status effects.

[versed summit]

just flashbang yourself

[acoustic coral]

Ah, yes. Auto-vault, keep flashbanging yourself, get to the new spot in no time!

Or, you know, the old spot - luck of the draw, because you're blind!

[ancient dune]

set it to DtA attribute against legendary 4p scaled elites too we're hitting whole new numbers here

🎉 🎉 🎉

[onyx sage]

YOOOOO

500k INCREASE

[fair dragon]

jesus

[shy willow]

NO WAY

[next jolt]

should i reroll this into damage to target out of cover? or just keep?

[flint wave]

reroll

[versed summit]

depends how many exo components you have tbh, but reroll eventually

[next jolt]

still new so i dont have much, around 20

[versed summit]

well It could take 5 or it could take 20+ rolls to get Dtooc, so just keep in mind you could get stuck with something worse in the meantime.

[next jolt]

okay, ill keep it for now, thank you

[magic pilot]

Wait

There's talk in here like we got patch notes

I'm smelling patch notes

[shy willow]

yes we got a drop

new gear

[magic pilot]

Link?

[slate nest]

#news-and-announcements message

[magic pilot]

New exotic shotgun is a ksg idk how I feel about that

[shy willow]

it definitely seems to be a pvp gun

[magic pilot]

It needs a higher move speed debuff and it has no crit chance attachments

[versed summit]

why they gave it 15 CHD and no CHC is beyond me

[magic pilot]

I'd take 5% chc over 15% chd

Gun is dead in conflict unless people use it on skill builds to make it easier to hit people

Dz it could be good

It has so much ammo in the tube so you can just keep debuffing

[rocky rain]

Is there not a Hard Wired build in the spreadsheet?

[versed summit]

there's at least a hardwired jammer for Razorback. Whta do you need it for?

[wise swallow]

horrible

its gonna aids in the DZ

[rocky rain]

Running around in the open world killing sthings for xp/shd

[versed summit]

well you can do that with any build, are there paticular skills you want to use? like Cluster seekers?

[wise swallow]

imagine a dude with 2 million armour and tardi putting 5 shots into you now you basically move at the speed sloth

very very cool

probably please console players who whine about chicken dancing all the time

[rocky rain]

yes, i'm running with explosive sticky bombs and either drone/cluster bombs to kill the leftovers. With the talent of HW, I could add some armor/WD instead of yellow on the 2 other gear pieces

[versed summit]

you still want to stay at skill tier 6 tbh

[lethal trellis]

the status reapply when new pellet hit, so more or less 12% movement is maximum

[rocky rain]

I don;t know, I doubt whether 6 is really needed. Or take 2x Brazos?

[versed summit]

iKia's HW build 2.06 HW Explo

[rocky rain]

My current HW setup is with Ninja, 3x HW, China (haste/skill dmg) and Caeser's Guard

[shy willow]

the only time it isn't is if you're running technician then you can run 5

[rocky rain]

But the skill haste & Perfectly Skilled seems a bit obsolete with HW

[shy willow]

hard wire bag is better than ninja

[versed summit]

that's why you typically don't take them with hardwired

[rocky rain]

Now on Demolinionist because of the BOOM 😉

[shy willow]

anything skill damage related just use glass cannon

[rocky rain]

So what else? WD or some armor would be nice too..

[shy willow]

its a free amp

[rocky rain]

Glass Canon = immediatlely dead

[versed summit]

Skill damage you don't need WD/armor

[shy willow]

you're on a skill build

[magic pilot]

Pretty much only worth using glass imo

[shy willow]

you dont need to run out

[fair dragon]

It takes practice

[magic pilot]

I'm suprised there isn't a PGC enjoyer in here yet

[shy willow]

I use pgc on mortar

[fair dragon]

I just soloed Invaded DUA with nothing but the mortar turret today. Not flexing but if I can do it, so can you.

[shy willow]

very cool unicorn

I tried hard wired but the mortar just hits on high end

[fair dragon]

You really have to utilise the cover systsm

mortar is trash with HW

[shy willow]

with or without hollywood

[fair dragon]

With Hollywood

And 5 directives too

[rocky rain]

I now have 5 gears items with Skill Tier + Demolinionist, but I am at Tier 6; how's that possible?

[versed summit]

could be a lot of things

[hexed steppe]

Nah, just means you need to use cover proper

[stiff jasper]

Anyone know is 4 piece lone star good or bad in div1 before classified? In pvp

[wise swallow]

4 pc was not good iirc

[tulip charm]

You pretty much need classified for lonestar

[fresh grove]

I have a lone star build, still looking for a classified chest and kneepads for that funny you should mention it

[tulip charm]

its kinda of pain to farm classified at the start

I used technician to commanding striker for pier farming

[stiff jasper]

I just thinking about pts new gear set ,if it worthy for lmg or double barrel

[magic pilot]

Only works for rifle and mmr I think