td2-build-advice

[wise swallow]

5% Armour isn’t worth the crit loss

[devout agate]

Ceska chest gives that talent also?

[glossy scarab]

all brand chests can have it

[devout agate]

What does ceska chest give for the brand set thing

[wise swallow]

10% chc

[glossy scarab]

critical hit chance

[devout agate]

Oh ok bet

[glossy scarab]

but if you find grupo or fenris or walker and harris or sokolov with good rolls and unbreakable dont trash it

[devout agate]

Ok

The talent on the ceska chest is obliterate not unbreakable

[onyx sage]

farm for one

[glossy scarab]

might be worth keeping

[devout agate]

So ceska chest can drop with a random talent?

[solar sable]

any chest talent basically

[limpid pelican]

is there a specific FAL that's bis?

[magic pilot]

G36

[glossy scarab]

I tested this a long time ago and they all performed pretty much the same. i think the plain FAL was the best bc it has some amount (?) more stability

[wise swallow]

keep

obliterrate is good in PVP

[devout agate]

Should I use that or unbreakable

[wise swallow]

yes

[devout agate]

Use obliterate?

[wise swallow]

use either or

both are good talents. one gives more dmg the other gives more survivability

[devout agate]

So it’s either kill faster or live longer

[wise swallow]

mhm

[devout agate]

Does obliterate kill a lot faster

[onyx sage]

yeah

[wise swallow]

youll knock 2-3 shots off STK

[devout agate]

What’s STK

[wise swallow]

shots to kill

BTK is bullets to kill

TTK is time to kill

[devout agate]

Oh ok

[last spindle]

Does anyone know what kind of dmg turret/drone or turret/artificer should be putting up? To be considered good

[solar sable]

I was trying to do a HF build for my Scorpio the other day and I now wonder what piece went here instead of Striker mask...

[surreal depot]

I dunno

Maybe 511

[solar sable]

nope, nvm. Its gila

[tawdry flare]

5.11 chameleon meta let's gooo

[noble sleet]

i need some help i used to be heavy into div1 and now im just getting back into div2 anyone got any good starter builds to do?

[solar sable]

Maybe Striker, HB (Heartbreaker) or HF (Hunters Fury)

[rich lotus]

1 piece hb for the win

w

[tawdry flare]

Don't force me to say it

[noble sleet]

i have strikers pieces rn what would you suggest i try and go for?

currently have 4 piece

[rich lotus]

The force has always been inside you

[rich lotus]

Both works is the thing, I'd say if you don't have one always make sure to have a strikers dps build ready

Good for countdown and other spots where you can continue on farming pieces

[solar sable]

Oh, you're good with that 4p, maybe try something like HB if you want more survivability (armor). I'll leave it to your choice

[rich lotus]

Kingbreaker HB build is a good one for HIGH survivability while being able to deal some damage

Always a spot in my heart

[solar sable]

or go with, what I call, "butter knife and toast" aka Hotshot if you want to oneshot everything that moves

[rich lotus]

It's all about where you wanna start really ig

[solar sable]

yup

[noble sleet]

i wanted to do strikers with some survivability originally

but im currently struggling on how to go about it tbh

[rich lotus]

My own version of strikers with great survivability will prob trigger many lol

4pc strikers + liquid engineer + coyote's

But you can also run a chest with ob instead of coyote's

[noble sleet]

what chest would you suggest i go for? and what's coyotes and what does liquid do?

im assuming ob is obliterate?

[fresh grove]

Pretty much

[rich lotus]

Ceska + obliterate talent

[solar sable]

You don't run Striker with Coyote's Mask? Try it out tho

[rich lotus]

Liquid gives you 12% extra armor per kill (max stack of 10)

It's like a memento but if you don't want to be at kissing range

This coyote's

[noble sleet]

ill try and get it and see if i like it

[rich lotus]

This is personal preference btw, a lot of will will just tell you to go memento backpack since it gives a lot more benefits

[noble sleet]

thats actually pretty sick

[rich lotus]

Forgot to add, it's extra armor not just armor but works the same

[noble sleet]

got ya well thanks for the help i think i know what im gonna go for now :)

[rocky rain]

What is this Liquid? Is it a named item or (if so, which brand?)

[rich lotus]

named belstone backpack

[rocky rain]

Ah cool, thanks! Do naked items items come with random or fixed talents btw? You cannot recalibrate them right?

[rich lotus]

Depends

Some named have either talent or stats fixed/locked

You can tell because the named item will have either stats maxed out or the talent will say "perfect"

[rich lotus]

@devout agate This is you with ceska + ouro + everything CHD

This the same but with grupo

Ceska is a better option for anything other than ouro (OFC This will vary depending on your watch level)

Ouro itself gives +31% CHC (Just the weapon)

[hexed steppe]

Oreo+ceska+watch+2 secondary chc rolls , everything else being chd, puts the build @ at 63% chc.

I think ceska still the way to go.

I think when you put into the build site you added a chc roll, in the top screenshot, where it wasnt needed.

I'm assuming striker, but if its ui or nego then correct me.

[devout agate]

It’s striker

[rich lotus]

Oh top screenshot lemme check

[rich lotus]

Hmm yeah I calculated here real quick

[rich lotus]

🥂 😂

But idk if 63% is better than 59% though

[hexed steppe]

I think its close either way when you chc x chd

[rich lotus]

Specially pvp ouro

True

[hexed steppe]

Its 63 to 53. Grupo wont be 59 since the chc roll was probably there as well

[rich lotus]

Ceska: 63%/163% = 9.780
Grupo: 53%/ 178% = 9.434
Grupo +1 chc: 59%/166% = 9.794

Now which one is better chc x chd I got no clue

Prob very small difference anyways

Is there any calculators for crits specifically?

[patent fossil]

Yeah just multiply chc by chd for each option and see which is higher

[rich lotus]

Oh thats just it? thought there were more funky calcs lol

[hexed steppe]

No simple calc

[patent fossil]

For a simple 'which is better' it works, if you want to know exactly by how much it's better then it gets more complicated

[hexed steppe]

I would just double check all totals. The overcrit 63 will only count as 60 when you multiply

[rich lotus]

There updated it

14 more damage on grupo + chc lol

[rich lotus]

I see

[hexed steppe]

Very close

[rich lotus]

Yup

[hexed steppe]

So I guess it boils down to if you have 1 chest or the other

[rich lotus]

Or if everything you got is chd rolled or not yep

[magic pilot]

You don't go off 63, use 60

[rich lotus]

I did calculate 60%

[devout agate]

So gruppo? Or ceska?

[rich lotus]

Do you have Crit damage on everything?

[devout agate]

Chance and dmg

But my chest is the problem

I have weapon handling on it which sucks so I need to farm for another one

[rich lotus]

How many pieces with chance?

[devout agate]

All except 2 I think

[rich lotus]

Should be only 2 (Chest/Backpack)

[devout agate]

The rest chd?

[rich lotus]

Wait no your'e using coyotes righ

[devout agate]

Yep

[rich lotus]

So chest + mask should be the only pieces with 1 chc

[devout agate]

Oh

Alright

[rich lotus]

1 extra piece with CHC is fine but then you'll want to run grupo if you want to min max

[devout agate]

Alright

Is gruppo a named brand?

[rich lotus]

Gear brand yeah

[devout agate]

Bet I’ll farm for a chest with obliterate Tom

Appreciate it

[devout agate]

Wait would I want obliterate or unbreakable on it

[rich lotus]

Up to you

[devout agate]

Is the gruppo chest blue?

[rich lotus]

Red

[devout agate]

So no 170k armor?

Can I change it to armor?

[rich lotus]

Also up to you

Some people like to run 5-6 blue, 1 red is fine

Heck i run 2 reds lol

[devout agate]

Ima just do blue I feel like I need more armor

I die way to fast lol

Coyote mask is enough red for me lol

[rich lotus]

That works, just means more farming or more rng luck

[devout agate]

Yeah, also do u do conflict?

[rich lotus]

Sometimes

[devout agate]

What skills would u recommend for conflict

[rich lotus]

Oh keep note, if you do conflict you do wanna run ceska over grupo lol

Conflict removes your watch levels

Which means -10% chc

[devout agate]

Oh ok

[rich lotus]

I generally just use decoy + pulse or sticky

[devout agate]

Alright

[onyx sage]

unironically best skills in legendary too

(not the emp pulse, i mean decoy + emp sticky)

[cyan drift]

we've hit the motherload

[summer moss]

Hey all i just returned to the divison probably about 3 years off. would anyone be willing to go over a possbile build with me on depending on what i have XD im totally lost and im sick of being kicked from groups for "not having meta buiilds"

[covert meadow]

Is that oreo striker build good for solo pve and missions or is that something for the pvp game? I've been looking for a strictly oreo build but not sure what to use any ideas?

[acoustic coral]

Any red build in the sheets can be used for Solo Heroic 4-5 Directives - with ease.

[covert meadow]

And just add oreo as the primary @acoustic coral ?

[summer moss]

i just want something to use mainly for pve

[acoustic coral]

This channel -> Pinned -> Sheets -> Hub(builds)
Gravity - just pick whatever you wanna go for, Heartbreaker, Striker, Sniper setups are all nice to get you started.
xunitx1 - the striker evernote has an oreo version that uses the chest - alternatively, use the Obliterate setup with oreo instead of elmo.

[covert meadow]

Ok ty @acoustic coral

[flint tiger]

wondering if the chameleon is any good?, got it from a drop

[patent fossil]

Not especially. It's very short range (really an smg rather than an AR) and is only really strong when all the buffs are up, which in practice isn't a large proportion of the time

[flint tiger]

ok cool ty

[magic pilot]

Well well

[rich lotus]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=022975b4-183e-e730-c18b-06ff00cb26ea&noteKey=6160294f8f6e72cf99375efb0813747a&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F022975b4-183e-e730-c18b-06ff00cb26ea%2F6160294f8f6e72cf99375efb0813747a&title=Future%2BInitiative%2BHealer%2B(Y5%2BS2)

Should I roll the skill damage to repair skills seeing as I'm using technician specialty?

[onyx sage]

you can

[rich lotus]

There. Now I have that build for incursion and haven't the foggiest idea how to use it lol

Look good?

[urban latch]

Here's a basic run down of what you'll be expected to do as the healer in the incursion

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/s/viuXq1JgVz

[rich lotus]

Thanks

And what about these?

[urban latch]

If your just using the lefty on your healer build those stats don't really matter, your just using it for the talent. Your damage is negligible

[rich lotus]

Ok cool then I can save resources

So it's built then. Now to go suck lol

[magic pilot]

I'm down to run it later

[rich lotus]

You ran it with me last night right?

I'm not undersstanding this sledgehammer tho. I have to throw grenades?

[magic pilot]

Nope

Yes

[rich lotus]

So I have to throw a grenade with lefty active, then swap to scorpio and shoot them to get opportunistic active, till shot 7, and overcharge when the drone dies before I do all this?

And my hive will keep everyone alive?

[vestal ibex]

I'd be down to run tonight. I'm like 2 away from a milestone.

[rich lotus]

That'll make 4 of us

[tulip charm]

I oc when Johnson is up with Martinez.

Also you can nade martinez at the start

[vestal ibex]

Yeah there is a bunch of things people do differently on lovebirds but 2 things are important. Sledge and healing. If you do these two things you'll be fine.

[rich lotus]

But sledgehammer only lasts for 10 seconds

[vestal ibex]

Killing them is usually a 20-30 second thing.

[rich lotus]

Do I need to use the chem launcher for healing?

[vestal ibex]

OC will destroy your hive, while it's down yes.

Double tapping healing chem just drops one at your feet.

[rich lotus]

Well that makes the guide wrong then lol

Ah

[vestal ibex]

Yes, there has been talk of making a new guide but I'm lazy.

I also don't know if I want to get into that side of youtube.

[rich lotus]

Yeah cause it says OC then tap sledge then opp. People will die in that time

[vestal ibex]

There are just funky things that happen, Johnson might not even show up as there is a small chance he goes AFK next to the stairs. If you wait for him to show and never OC to get booster down you might die to Martinez flames. Rare case but it happens.

It's hard to give a perfect how to for a fight that can feel SO much different from run to run.

[rich lotus]

Yeah

So just throwing out your hive doesn't proc oc right? How do you activate it to proc oc? Destroy it?

[vestal ibex]

Yes, you have to have the hive on the ground and press and hold deploy until it breaks. You can also instantly do this if you have instant use for skills bound.

Careful you aren't standing on top of it as this will just pick it up.

[rich lotus]

I doubt I have that used.

So that's why the guy last night threw it up on the arch way before we got there

[vestal ibex]

You should tho. Instant use for skills has tons of uses.

[rich lotus]

Yeah for like the sticky bomb thing

[vestal ibex]

Yeah the double tap becomes a single tap. You gain the OC and ability to destroy skills faster but a single button press means messing up the double tap 0 times.

[rich lotus]

Yeah that double tap sometimes is a pain. Especially when using the burner chem speed running lincoln.

So do you only set one to instant use?

I can't pull out my chem launcher using instant use

[onyx sage]

instant use for chem launcher means detonating firestarter, not for pulling it out

use the regular button for that

[rich lotus]

any good talents for the chestplate?

im running a high crit dmg% build

[onyx sage]

not specific enough

what gear set are you running

[rich lotus]

im using a memento backpack

and the Ceska chest piece

not sure if this helps but all the mods is crit damage

[tulip charm]

Imo 3 piece prov is not worth unless you’re running sacrifice.

[tulip charm]

Obliterate

Also get foxes knee and contractors glove

[rich lotus]

Anything i can do to better my build? i wanna push to be able to play heroic

[tulip charm]

Groupo fenris mask/holster

[rich lotus]

should i put an armour stat on it?

[tulip charm]

Also you can build strikers

[rich lotus]

what does strikers do?

[tulip charm]

Currently the best single target dps gearset

[rich lotus]

guess im grinding that then

where striker set should i focus on?

like the mask, holster and gloves and knee pads?

and keep the chestplate for a talent

[onyx sage]

just get all 6 pieces, each with crit damage

[rich lotus]

u need only 4 pieces tho?

[onyx sage]

yes, but for different builds

you're not going to use say backpack, gloves, holster and knees for all striker builds

there isn't just 1 striker variant

[rich lotus]

ah true

are they easy to recalibrate or do i need to get lucky with crit dmg

[onyx sage]

you don't need to get crit damage, each piece always come with weapon damage so you can change the attribute to crit damage

it only matters if you want to run more blue cores, that's when you want to get lucky with crit damage

[rich lotus]

might need some blue cores tbh because im mainly a solo player

just wanna be able to run heroic campaign missions and im happy

[onyx sage]

you can run all red solo

see if you can do that first before adding blues

[rich lotus]

ty

what about specialisation? im going for crossbow but i have maxed out gunner or it doesnt matter too much?

[onyx sage]

if you do use blue then you should run shield as well

gunner is best for solo

[tulip charm]

For solo just use memento

[onyx sage]

look into firewall as well

[rich lotus]

yeah i got memento and coyotes mask which are the best in div2 i think

[onyx sage]

memento is the solo player's best item

[rich lotus]

or one of the good exotics, and yeyeyye i'll look into firewall

time to grind that strikers then

[tulip charm]

A run of countdown should give you all the pieces

[warm socket]

Can Someone send me a picture or somthn of a good pvp lmg Build? True patriot or just all Yellow

[dull ermine]

@onyx sage how many characters do u run ?

[onyx sage]

4 but only use 1 mainly

[hexed steppe]

collecting all 52 exo caches/components weekly on those 4?

[dull ermine]

What builds do you keep on them?

/ use the most ?

[dull ermine]

52?

[hexed steppe]

all weekly projects and 7 daily project exo x 4

[dull ermine]

Ah I forgot to multiple the dailies by 7

I’ve been doing the 3 weekly ones but man does it take a long time

[onyx sage]

first character is main, most of pve and all legendary content

second has 1 build only, striker 200 with scorpio and acs-12, dedicated to countdown and has empty bag to store countdown loot

third and fourth are just watch mules

[dull ermine]

Dam

What builds do you have on your first ?

[onyx sage]

most of them are striker.
1 sniper.
2 hhf variants.
EP foam + emp sticky.
EP fire.
mortar.
FI healer.

[dull ermine]

How many guns do you have that you alternate between?

Or do you just use famas mostly

I have p416, g36c, carbine 7, ctar, police m4

[onyx sage]

scorpio, elmo, famas, acs-12, six12 are the most reused in the striker variants

[dull ermine]

Famas, ACR

[onyx sage]

then m700, lefty and regulus

think that's it

mostly elmo and famas for AR

[dull ermine]

N what exotics you keep? Just Elmo and Scorpio?

I have a few strikers builds, 1 with bloody knuckles, do you run this?

Also you’ve gotten me into using shotguns again, with fast hands for crit

Ty 🫶

[onyx sage]

elmo, scorpio and regulus for weapons

and no i don't use bloody knuckles

if we expand to gear as well then coyote, DCH, BTSU gloves and acosta

[rich lotus]

any descent afficionados in the chat tonight?

[onyx sage]

how far you wanna go?

[covert meadow]

Hey guys I have a question for the obliterate striker setup. I switched my shotgun for a famas is this ok or is using the shotgun a must have to?

[onyx sage]

not a must have

[covert meadow]

Ok ty @onyx sage

[valid dagger]

really the thing with striker is to get the stacks as quick as possible so thats why LEFTY for example is good because you just empy a clip and then switch and your more than halfway if not all the way built up on stacks but any weapon can build the stacks just about how quick

[onyx sage]

in striker obliterate you really can just stack with famas tbh. but it's up to you what you run for secondary. i run scorpio myself

on striker 200 (striker with chest) shotguns (literally just acs-12) are highly recommended to get to 200 stacks quickly

[covert meadow]

@valid dagger ok yeah I was confused on the stack process ty for letting me know. Also it seems I lose about 10% on chc if I use gunner skill opposed to this grednadier skill which puts chc at 60

[rich lotus]

?!

[onyx sage]

not sure how you're losing chc from switching away from demolitionist, there is an underbarrel mod that gives 7% instead of 5% chc but then it's just a 2% loss

[covert meadow]

Oh ok @onyx sage yeah I seem to be running into to trouble with that shotgun opposed to using the famas plus it has the better stats than my shotgun

Yeah Its really weird, I'll dbl check but it sure seems that way

[onyx sage]

the important thing is you're mostly using the shotgun to build stacks. that's its primary purpose. if the stats are also good then you can also use it to kill. acs-12 shreds

[valid dagger]

like most people im sure I run a shotgun and st elmos and thigns just fall over once the stacks get full but thats the nice thing with striker you can run scorpio and something else and debuff at the same time and depending on the gun you can shred

[onyx sage]

you can even run double shotgun striker and be a king at close encounters

acs-12 to stack then six12/scorpio to kill

[valid dagger]

bullet king is fun if you are close to a boss I ran it on the incursion final boss and if you hit heads its decent enough with the fire rate buff from striker

[covert meadow]

Oh wow that sounds fun, will have to try the acs and scorpion 🦂

[valid dagger]

if you want a fun build get the dodge city holster and something like liberty and it works like striker you buld stacks and then switch to the pistol and the shot does immense damage

its fun to play around with in like names boss activities and stuff

[covert meadow]

Yeah only thing I'm missing is 2% chd mod from 12. On gunner. Must have something to do with elmo

[onyx sage]

yeah elmo gives 20% chc lol

your typical high end gun only gives 10% or 15% chc, and no chd

[covert meadow]

Ah and ouro is 30 so that's it

My chd went up 172 and 52 chc

I basically was just wanted one with elmo and one with ouro

[dull ermine]

What do you use Acosta for?

Like what builds basically

[valid dagger]

I use elmo on its own and in once clip if your against like a hunter you can get half the stacks on the one guy

[dull ermine]

Assuming you don’t have stacks iron lung will kind of be better if you’re looking to crowd control them

Or bluescreen

Again if strictly looking to CC (no Scorpio)

Like for example the strat to shock keener doesn’t seem to work anymore, he goes immune

[onyx sage]

on many skill builds where i can trade the backpack talent for overcharge. like oxi, mortar, and CC

[dull ermine]

I think the shotgun is only necessary on bosses to get from 0 to full stacks quickly

[dull ermine]

Do you switch the backpack in between overcharge?

Ie sometimes I got swap to Acosta but it’s kind of annoying

[onyx sage]

nah

[dull ermine]

It’s bc the shotgun forces you to go up close 🥲

Otherwise some of the pellets don’t hit

[onyx sage]

i do speedrun strats so i get away with only needing OC within 60s

[covert meadow]

Yeah that up close is kinda rough, for me, cause I'm running full Reds, I try to be smart but once you in tight and ads expand it's over

I'm better at medium range and working in

And can build up the 1 tap pretty good when sniping

[valid dagger]

i always throw one blue in my build no matter what or I use memento but i dont like relying on it

[covert meadow]

Yeah I might have to look at that because I'm full hot, and one strike usually drops me

[valid dagger]

try running hive if you arent already just as a last resort its not like in striker builds your using damaging skills anyway as a primary sournce of dps

I typically run a hive and some kind of roaming skill like turret or drone

then change to riot foam if the situation calls for it

[covert meadow]

I like that combo of that roaming, I had pulse but ima put hive and drone just for that escapabilty

[valid dagger]

if you feel like you can survive some hit then restorer hive is good to get that health back but if not just run reviver and play your life and it will save you if necessary just remember the cool down is long

but again a roaming skill will help too cause have it target the same target you are shooting and it will help

or decoy even so you can throw that have the enemies target that and then use your restorer hive

alot of possibilities

[covert meadow]

Yup still better than what I was running, ima try that striker drone first with hive combo, that decoy seems to dumb out quick before I can get any decent leverage

[valid dagger]

yea that is an issue with it but at the same time you only need those few seconds to get the restorer hive down and for it to kick in

but its whatever fits your play style

[covert meadow]

Yeah that's true, I appreciate yall help on this stuff 👍

[valid dagger]

i would say i would grind with you just to do something lol but the game doesnt have cross play

[magic pilot]

@urban latch ???

what is this monstrosity

[versed summit]

Think someone lost their DCH

[tulip charm]

Xd

[serene hare]

Look what I got, is it any good?

To me it looks pretty mid.

[tulip charm]

Imo It’s pretty good if you use he weapons

But scorpio oreo and elmo is very popular atm

[serene hare]

"He weapons"?

[tulip charm]

High end/gold

[serene hare]

Meh

[tulip charm]

it’s not a must i would just stash it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull ermine]

It’s worse in groups cause you get all the aggro once you start shooting which is unfortunate

I’ve found using a decoy or banshee pulse helps but have a fallback plan

[dull ermine]

It’s very good, blind fire from cover and you’ve got hella damage

Just 1 stack is enough to help 1 mag some enemies or break shields etc

[covert meadow]

@dull ermine yeah In Countdown is where I see I have to really becareful if I get to loose, those hunters take ya out

Depending on the team, I have not made it out sometime because others just wasn't strong

[serene hare]

Man, the second attibute of rifles being "critical damage" is what makes the weapon kinda bad.

[onyx sage]

you can reroll it

but the weapon itself isn't to kill. it's to stack the talent

[serene hare]

Idk why, but the word "rifles" didn't came out

I got a very good option for SR now instead of Mantis if I use the Bee thing.

My damage went to 38 million.

The bad thing is that it have to stack even more.

10 stacks, man.

[onyx sage]

realistically you only need 2 stacks for it to be used

cuz that's a 40% amp

[serene hare]

This is basically Mantis without Decoy reset.

Not like Decoy's reset is something expetacular, my cooldown is 18 secs.

[sudden fog]

@shy willow you got your key for incursion ?

[serene hare]

Jesus, Glass Cannon's damage taken is FIFTY percent, Jesus

[sudden fog]

dangerous

[muted dagger]

You'll barely feel it

[serene hare]

30% would be ok, but 50 is a joykiller.

[sudden fog]

this is gonna be long tryna find incursion team at 3:40 am

[serene hare]

I wonder if that talent of changing weapons buffs the damage to 20% would combo well with Busy Little Bee.

[muted dagger]

In heroic and lego there are only 2 states of existence, dead and not dead. There is nothing in between. With this mindset glass cannon is fine.

[sudden fog]

true that

[tulip charm]

Blb outlast versatile or gunslinger buff iirc

Or whatever the buff was

[serene hare]

Gunslinger is the one I'm talking about, but Headhunter might still be more viable

it sucks that it have to stack tho.

[muted dagger]

The 20% gunslinger works fine with blb in open world but so much fun in descent

200% blb plus an additional 150% on gunslinger tier 10

[serene hare]

Tier 10?

What is this?

[tulip charm]

Descent talent is way different from the normal game

[muted dagger]

That's true

[shy willow]

Ye

[serene hare]

That damage is very good, but Idk...

The application is so specific.

Shoot 10 targets, 1 headshot kill and then you have this damage.

[shy willow]

That's why you use headhunter instead

Standard sniper setups incorporate hotshot, airaldi, and chainkiller

[serene hare]

but I'm using headhunter

Sometimes I just think it's pretty shit dealing with some bosses when you can't stack.

[shy willow]

On solo you can one shot even bosses without a helmet

If there's heavies you can usually just double tap and get stacks again

[serene hare]

My Nemesis naturally is dealing 41 million, but why?

Is my new build that good? My Nemesis is worse than before (talking about it's stats).

[shy willow]

Nemesis hits very hard innately

[serene hare]

If I get a god roll on my Nemesis, how much damage it will get, 60 million?

[shy willow]

What are you running

[tawdry flare]

Depends on expertise

[serene hare]

3 hotshot, PD mask, Airaldi chest and pack

[tulip charm]

Get chainkiller and foxes

[shy willow]

^

[serene hare]

Nah, fuck foxes.

[tulip charm]

Thats on you ig

[serene hare]

I don't want to farm it now, I'll try it later tho.

[shy willow]

It's a very common drop from hunters

[serene hare]

That's the problem, not gonna do that now.

Dammit, I need exotic components.

[shy willow]

There's projects that award you with a few

[serene hare]

Dude, those fuckers in Conley Island killed a dog with a Mortar.

[dull ermine]

What about downed 👀

[shy willow]

Glass cannon is a free ticket from not dead to downed

Oblit does the same shi without making your armour more thin than it already is

[dull ermine]

It’s a free ticket to being targeted by every sniper, thrower, support

Fragile Armor who

Glass cannon is good but imo it’s better for hard hitting weapons

[tawdry flare]

Online doesn't do same shit without any other twd source put fi than it is yeah

[dull ermine]

Was waiting for that

[sudden fog]

u available to run

[shy willow]

Still better than GC

[shy willow]

Ye

[dull ermine]

Does anyone run gc in countdown?

[shy willow]

You'd have to be insane

[muted dagger]

Allow me to introduce myself

[sudden fog]

aight inv me don’t think anyone on eu servers is alive rn

[shy willow]

Do you fear nothing

[muted dagger]

Nothing but my own stupidity

[sudden fog]

check that build naval

😭😭😭😭

[shy willow]

Ninjabike my god

The shd 76 is defo an ftc

[sudden fog]

yes

gonna be awful dps this 😭

nvm i’m hitting hard for some reason

[shy willow]

Leon can you heal this guy's dps ain't it

[sudden fog]

do i need to do anything special

[shy willow]

Overcharge when the drone gets killed and keep us alive

[sudden fog]

alr

blitz mvp

pleaseeeeee

ffs

[shy willow]

Coyote's 😭

[sudden fog]

vile

[shy willow]

blitz MVP fr

Had 1/3 of the damage of me and you and we were healing😭

[sudden fog]

running diamondback

[shy willow]

Went so silky smooth when I switched over I tell you bloody knuckles is crazy

[sudden fog]

i keep forgetting to punch when i have them on

24 runs no oreo when will it drop

[shy willow]

Nah you can nade em too that way you proc sledge as well

[shy willow]

😭

[sudden fog]

i was hitting like 2.5 at wright forgot it procced on nades

[sudden fog]

i’ve opened like 3 chests on another account aswell and not got it

[shy willow]

Other people get it super easily and then there's us lmao

[sudden fog]

i use my friends account to get chests and he got it 1st try

i don’t believe it drops from the bosses anymore killed them too many times

[magic pilot]

Just had one drop from lovers today

[sudden fog]

well i’ll be back on division next week tuesday

[magic pilot]

Incursion resets Monday

[sudden fog]

things like this make me want to play it even though i opened chest

[sudden fog]

bruh does it actually

[magic pilot]

Yes around 10-11 cst

[tulip charm]

12am pst

[magic pilot]

Whenever time that is

[serene hare]

@onyx sage Up for a legend zoo?

[onyx sage]

it's 12am 💀

[serene hare]

So that's a yes?

[onyx sage]

tomorrow, but 3-4 hours earlier and i'm down

[dull ermine]

Is this post from the spreadsheet about the ravenous still relevant / have some of the issues been corrected but never updated on this post?

Ie does the ravenous primers now benefit from DTTOC?

also the buff from ravenous, is 10 stacks equivalent to 200% weapon damage per stack?

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/s/F4Ssh7jqob

Also does ravenous primer (explosive) benefit from DTA?

[desert kettle]

should i focus on dmg or armor (running skill build for missions to unlock strongholds)

[tulip charm]

Story mode?

[desert kettle]

yera

yea

[shy willow]

Don't worry about your build at all during the story

Just enjoy it

[tulip charm]

^

[dull ermine]

Just equip whatever gives you the most health (some items give more base health than base armor)

Health regenerates, armor doesn’t unless you have armor kit

So it’s up to you if you’re getting pinned a lot

[serene hare]

Imagine getting a "stability" roll twice in a roll for Nemesis...

Doesn't even need to be my Mantis roll (which is 1 in 1000), but at least with the right attributes.

Well, 3:41 AM now, gotta sleep.

[tawdry flare]

Stability is not the worst roll in respect to nemesis

[rich lotus]

Making a pvp healer build to give it a shot, would this be a good headstart any tips/feedback?

[stiff jasper]

It's fine

[glossy scarab]

@nobody

[shy willow]

@meret estate garden gate

[tawdry flare]

Gate strat

[warm arch]

what would a silly pvp build look like...

[stiff jasper]

Seems do everything, or don't know do anything

[vapid bobcat]

hi guys do u know how i can get nemesis? can i get it from countdown?

[shy willow]

its a project exotic

there'll be guides online

[vapid bobcat]

found it! ty!

[wise swallow]

I wouldnt use tardi on a healer personally

its not bad but id prefer emph

[vestal ibex]

I'd always wear healer chest.

[wise swallow]

keep a alps piece with a mod already on it favourited and swap between tardi and alps

[magic pilot]

Future chest or perf efficient and survivalist

[vestal ibex]

The 10% TWD is better and it doesn't require you to take damage and be healed. wait this is PVP bs...

[magic pilot]

Tardi is for smg or bonk

[magic pilot]

Yep lol

[shy willow]

I saw efficient and realized😭

[wise swallow]

isnt emph and future chest the same increase dmg wise

[wise swallow]

didnt even realize no FI backpack

use FI backpack

[acoustic coral]

ofcourse, Odder is replying 😎

[vestal ibex]

I don't really know people.

[magic pilot]

Emp is more dmg

[vestal ibex]

Emp is more damage but you have to take damage then be healed for it to become active, which in pvp is probably something you'd have to record and see how much you get one vs the other.

[wise swallow]

Atlest from my experience the only time im getting healed is when im getting shot

wouldnt really need healing if i wasnt getting shot...

ig it also depends on how your healer is playing

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but as I don't heal in PVP nor use empathic I'm just saying apply your own logic to your group/playstyle.

[wise swallow]

generally id say being more proactive is just better as a healer not waiting for tm8's to run back

[vestal ibex]

Cause I'm not 100% on how the buff comes and goes and that could make a difference too.

[wise swallow]

but ig if your a more sit back type FI might be better

also if your running 2 vigi players they would take dmg less often too

[sudden fog]

does negotiators go through wrights barrier in incursion

[tawdry flare]

Already left soul left the body

[tawdry flare]

Nope

[vestal ibex]

Nego marks do not work on wright or the lovebirds at all.

[sudden fog]

awww

[tulip charm]

sucks that it doesnt

[urban latch]

Dumb question, but do you know if anyone has tested this since project resolve changed a bunch of things?

[magic pilot]

time to ambush him i see him typing

grupo or badger (countdown so expecting another coyotes player)

[urban latch]

Wait am I 5999 right now?

[magic pilot]

believe so unless youve played since yesterday

[urban latch]

Also I was testing something with that build, which explains the HF lol

[magic pilot]

new meta

[vestal ibex]

Not that I know of. Ez test tho.

[rotund pewter]

Saw some guy running this build on Golden bullet so I tried it. Absolutely shreds, but not sure how it would do without GB. It seemed sort of difficult Solo because the build only has me at 30% chc, but with the Coyotes mask I just stay at 25m+, but when soloing like CP's I had a difficult time when I didn't have GB active because EVERYTHING was just targetting me basically, and when I would should, enemies would constantly get suppressed immediately so I was having a hard time keeping that distance. What do you guys think? You think it would be more usefull if I cranked up the chc and chd? chd is 119%. So far this build is only good for longer distance engagements, and preferably in a group. Might be good for Legendary?

[onyx sage]

it looks good for legendary but like you said you don't want 30% chc. gr9 even allows for more chc with the native 5%. you should also put chc on your gr9 too

if you're maining ouro or smg in general, main it consistently, it's hard to balance crit around smg AND another class

[rotund pewter]

Yea I just swapped for chc on Dare. Yea Ouro is just there in case I need to get up close for a minute or whatever, kind of jsut threw it on there.

[onyx sage]

in legendary you'd appreciate scorpio more.

also you don't want dare. you want a normal gr9 with steady handed

[rotund pewter]

Yea I think it's best too actually to main chc and chd for it because of the chest. I can't really build the stacks without my Lefty which would mean having to get up close

[rotund pewter]

Yea I realized Dare isn't best either I'm only using it because it's all god rolled

[rotund pewter]

Unless I just get a Petrov defense Chest? How critical to this build would you say the 8% dta is?

[magic pilot]

I would change the contractors for ceska

[onyx sage]

yeah you really don't want "weapon damage" brands more than crit

if you do run petrov, run contractor's. even then it might not be worth it at high expertise

[rotund pewter]

Yea that's what I'm running is Contractor's

[rotund pewter]

Ah ok

My thought was just using the Coyote's mask to make up for the lack of crit, but I've also never really like the idea of have those 3 different buffs where you aren't always necessarily going to have the same one

[glossy scarab]

relying on coyotes long range chc buff seems like an annoying way to play

[magic pilot]

Ceska will beat contractors on striker

[hexed steppe]

And stacking at range 😭

Might want to convert it to negotiators🤔

[rotund pewter]

Could try that too yea

[rotund pewter]

Well that's what I was saying like for long range it's annoying, but I changed it so that I can rely on long and mid, which isn't as bad lol

[glossy scarab]

yeah good call

[hazy steeple]

the 3rd buff for Coyotes is great for rifles, but rifle-only builds are kinda rare to see.

[hexed steppe]

Almost always have a m1a 😎

Nego is 😍

[onyx sage]

don't mind it that much, just have in mind that you will get a buff no matter what range you play in and those buffs are stronger than any high end brand, BUT build based the close range and mid range buff the most

just set and forget

if you have enough damage in other areas, it shouldn't matter if you have to flip-flop between mid, close or even far

[rotund pewter]

Yea definitely having that sup[er low chc is a terrible idea

[hazy steeple]

You do tend to learn how the range "feels" after using it long enough.
like, the mid-buff for Coyotes is used on a lot of DPS setups, including the big meta one right now (Strikers) so you'll learn what range "feels" right.

[onyx sage]

the reason why people recommend 50% chc for coyote is so that:

• at mid range it's the perfect buff and it's the most common range people play in
• at close range, 50% chc still is impactful
• at far range, the chc buff is largely wasted but isn't useless

there are also shotgun striker setups that only make use of coyote close buff, but you're already "signing up" for that

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

[onyx sage]

imagine farming red badger

[magic pilot]

I didn't, random drop lol

Eventually I'll replace it with ammo dump

[flint tiger]

is coyotes not good?

[rotund pewter]

Didn't really think about it that way actually that's good to know. I typically aim for 55% as I usually go CQ with an SMG so I like to aim for 25% chd buff

[glossy scarab]

no its one of the best exos

[blissful rampart]

^^

[onyx sage]

oh my god.

[flint tiger]

ah ok

this is the build im currently doing

im trying to get a different chest piece or backpack

[glossy scarab]

umbra chest piece is good though

the backpack is less desirable

[flint tiger]

ok ill get a different backpack

[flint tiger]

is it possible to get umbra initiative blueprints?

[glossy scarab]

oh i dont know

[wise swallow]

Yea

Ive gotten a couple from control points iirc

[glossy scarab]

if you need the umbra glove blueprint it might take a lot longer than just farming countdown or whatever for umbra and play til a glove drops

[onyx sage]

tl;dr just play countdown

[flint tiger]

oh cool

cus i hovered over it and said the blueprints was season 10

[glossy scarab]

oh then countdown it is

[flint tiger]

🫡

[wise swallow]

Auto response to everything.
play countdown

[glossy scarab]

never fails

[blissful rampart]

auto respond this! "were do i get Regulus" 😛

[glossy scarab]

in ur dreams

or PTS lol

[wise swallow]

countdown

[onyx sage]

kenly

limited time event, act now

[rich lotus]

Now that I think about it I never did that one

[glossy scarab]

i did it once and it made me feel ugly

[rich lotus]

TAKES SO LONG

[rich lotus]

Hope its this long only for story mode

[hazy steeple]

well Kenly College is a time-trial at heart, so it takes as long as you do.
You'll get faster with practice.

[rich lotus]

It's not that

I meant the tasks, wait here for 2m wait there for extra 3m wait here for 1m

[hazy steeple]

There's a reason it's not very popular.

[rich lotus]

I can see that yeah

[covert meadow]

When using the eclipse burn build, I want my 1st and 2nd attribute to be status effects and damage right? For the 3 mods though, is another haste better than the duration mod?

For the cc build it says don't even use it, but says nothing for first burn build

[versed summit]

go skill haste mods

[covert meadow]

Ok ty @versed summit

[rich lotus]

Does anybody have a link or list to all the new exotic weapons that we can reroll to put DTOC on?

[acoustic coral]

Check the pinned spreadsheet - but it would be all exotic weapons that aren't LMGs

[restive python]

Best talents for rifles?

[glossy scarab]

boomerang, rifleman maybe

flatline

[versed summit]

Boomerang for general use. strained optimist and flatline can work situationally as well.

[golden isle]

Do you guys think a 4 reds /2 yellows hybrid build with mechanical animal viable on heroic content?

[glossy scarab]

yeah thats doable

i mean it depends what the build looks like but if its right yea you can use that

[dull ermine]

Does behind you work on boomer if you’ve got the eye ?

Also within the same concept, does it work while he’s on one knee and you’ve got the eye?

Also for rifle talents I’d throw in Ranger, if you’re picking off targets and can’t consistently land your shots due to needing to peak

[versed summit]

depends on the build around that tbf. It can be though.

[golden isle]

Can you recommend me some decent talents for it?

[versed summit]

I'm curious, is the mechanical animal bad enough that'd you'd do more damage taking an extra skill tier and using a better AR? it's about a 7% difference in DPS to a non-talented FAMAS on a Striker build

[versed summit]

I'd simply build around a normal Striker obliterate build

[urban latch]

Mechanical animal only increases the duration, so using the named version isnt really worth it

[golden isle]

I already have a striker build so I'm just playing around with some builds tbh

[versed summit]

it adds an extra skill tier now

unless I'm tripping

[urban latch]

Oh really? Up to 4? I could totally be out of the loop

[golden isle]

It's a pretty recent change iirc

[versed summit]

Believe that was changed with the new season

[urban latch]

Oh my bad, good to know, that's a solid change

[hexed steppe]

so 4 tiers and an OC ? 🤔

[dull ermine]

I think the last stack counts as the overcharge

[urban latch]

I blame @blissful rampart

[dull ermine]

Look at the behind you talent for M700 lol I was mind blown then realized how badly it got nerfed

60% amp damage

[hexed steppe]

i thought before it would stack 3 then get an overcharge.. if it stacks 4 but the 4th is the oc its not really any different

[urban latch]

It was completely busted in the pts, it needed that change

[dull ermine]

But the whisperer 😔

Does anyone have any info on behind you regarding boomer?

And razorback?

[patent fossil]

For that kind of hybrid I'd really recommend memento, the long term stacks alone will make up for lost red cores and the 30% skill efficiency will really help buff your skills too (and the armour regen is just gravy)

[dull ermine]

If you’ve got the eye does it count as targetting you even when they are down? (Boomer)

[golden isle]

Thanks man

[rich lotus]

Is Grupo multiplicative?

[dull ermine]

Its additive to crit and multiplies to your weapon damage

[rich lotus]

Should I have at least 50% CHC? Or should I lower CHC and put more CHD?

[dull ermine]

You want as close to 60% as possible

[blissful rampart]

just woke up, hu? need coffeee

[dull ermine]

Drink some tea

[rocky rain]

Whats makes Foxes' Knees so special to use in a dps-buid, especically if you use a AR/SMG (vs Rifle)?

[blissful rampart]

id rather dig out my own eye with a rusty spork then drink tea 🤢

[blissful rampart]

the Damage to targets out of cover boost is a good size dps boost in lots of gun builds. (outside of set builds, as they need the extra chc roll, which fox prayer cant get)

[onyx sage]

future perfection (perfect future perfect) not updated in the sheet, i think raucey updated it tho

[blissful rampart]

got it, and still missing some updates on the sheet, havent had the time 😭

[rocky rain]

Thanks!

[blissful rampart]

just updated it, this should be correct now right? (did it on both tabs)

[dull ermine]

1. tea > coffee
2. do you know if you can overcharge after reaching the 3rd stack? / 4th stack

Ie can you run 3 skill tiers and reach skill tier 6 after 3 kills and get overcharge on 4th kill? Or do you need 4 skill tiers to get 2 kills and 3rd kill procs overcharge?

Regular FP

[blissful rampart]

for regular you need 3 tiers before talent and it will OC
for perfect you only need 2 tiers

they have to be yellow tiers too (so blue cores dont work with talent for shield)

[dull ermine]

So overcharge doesn’t count towards the stacks?

[wise swallow]

depends on what your going for. for maximal caffeine coffee>

[versed summit]

Nah

[blissful rampart]

?? not sure what you mean but the OC part is a seperate thing to the stack part

IE the OC part is just a yes no (do you have 6 tiers, if yes then OC, else dont OC).
and the stack part only gives you stacks upto the talents max and or 6 tiers.

[dull ermine]

going for @blissful rampart to drink tea

[shy willow]

I just prefer the taste of coffee

[rocky rain]

Which brand are foxes

[shy willow]

Overlord

[rocky rain]

Cool, got ‘em immediately in the summit!!

[rocky rain]

What’s the best way to get tons of polycarbonate and ceramics

[blissful rampart]

SHD watch viva alt toon

[wise swallow]

control points controled by whoever drops ceramics

I used to get solarfarm then open all the little boxes with that donation skill

tho staring at the ground holding X is boring as hell

[rocky rain]

No idea what you mean, can you explain more plz?

[tulip charm]

Using shd points

[rocky rain]

Sorry, really don’t understand it. My watch is at 500, how do I buy ceramics etc

[blissful rampart]

create and boost a 2nd toon to WONY, beat wony, to unlock the watch and spend all your watch points on thing you need since SHD watch level is account wide. you want to be about 1500 shd level at least for it to be at least decent. delete the toon after watch points all spent and repeat.

[rocky rain]

Thanks, you meant a 2nd character. Will keep that, thanks!

[wise swallow]

at 500 shd your wasting your time with 2nd charracters

just farm control points and donate stuff to get the scavanger skill thing. loot boxes while running to get control point

[blissful rampart]

SHD watch with 2nd toon is by far the best way, outside of that, what odder said above ^^ but its sadly doesnt compete with SHD watch farm

[wise swallow]

whence you get to 1k+ shd farm is ridiculous

I have like 700 scav points in total rn iirc

[vestal ibex]

You aren't wasting time with new characters until you start deleting and remaking them.

[wise swallow]

id say its not worth it for him rn nor anyone really. at that shd my guess would be struggling to recal, making a second character is gonna take more time then just farming the mats

[vestal ibex]

It's just not wasted time if you WONY now or later. Having 4 toons is having 4 toons, they still level with you.

[wise swallow]

id say make a second character when your bored not when your trying to make a build

[rich lotus]

Only longterm

Wrong mention lol

But yeah it's not a waste of time but it won't give him that insane amount of resources, but still good on the longrun

[rocky rain]

Thanks all, a lot to do!

[hexed steppe]

Not really. It's a waste to repeat farm, but while someone is climbing it is worth having a couple agents through wony.

4x projects, 4x scavenging gains, extra storage.
Once agent hits higher level then do the delete/repeat.
But at 500 that's 300extra scavenging if all were created

[warm knot]

So, whats for the healer? I'm running 4x future and btsu. Idk what backpack to use tho.

Mods: 2x skill haste, 1x repair.
Rolls: 1x skill haste, 3x repair. (And btsu).

[onyx sage]

opportunistic

[warm knot]

The setup?

[tulip charm]

Yes

[dull ermine]

countdown deconstruct guns for polycarbonate and steel / and gear pieces for ceramics

If you’re not doing WONY

I’ve done the entire map of CP (just keeping them captured and collecting them each day) … you get like 500 of each resource

[serene hare]

Would Chainkiller actually improve my build? Because I'm mostly struggling with the first shot damage of my sniper build, not the second (which looks like it's buffed the most with that chest), even less the third and beyond.

I'm opening the game again to bring a screenshot, I had to shutdown my PC.

[hazy steeple]

It depends what the rest of your build is, but yeah a screenshot'll be helpful.
Just have one of the main page and one of the stats page with HSD showing.

[serene hare]

Not sure if that will help, my game is translated in portuguese.

[hazy steeple]

doesnt matter, we know where things are and icons are the same.

[serene hare]

I was thinking about that.

[hazy steeple]

3pc hotshot, vigi on bp, hh on chest. Okay easy enough to figure out.

[serene hare]

Now I figured it out, the Mantis have a supressor that gives +5% crit chance

Why tho? I think it would be better if it did...

Idk +100% headshot damage.

[hazy steeple]

Well the Mantis already pretty much auto-tracks headshots, so it can't be too good elsewhere.

[serene hare]

Should I revert some headshot damage into crit chance / crit damage?

I mean, I don't want to do that.

[shy willow]

I've always wondered what mantis is supposed to look like usually cuz rn it has not been tracking anything 😭

[shy willow]

Nah

[hazy steeple]

A little circle lights up, basically.

[shy willow]

Just work on getting better rolls

[shy willow]

Ohh

[serene hare]

Jesus Christ, man, another disconnect

What is wrong with this game?

[hazy steeple]

I would honestly think about swapping out that Mantis for a better MMR, the lack of a Talent and gun itself is a little eh.
but if you do enjoy using it, just avoid putting too much work into crit. even with lots of chc for your AR, you still lack chd and such: actual damage dealt.

[shy willow]

My games been running pretty smoothly considering the amount of deltas I was getting before

Mantis is a really fun gun solo if you can hit heads but maybe look into the m700 and SR families

[serene hare]

Gonna do 15 floor Summit because I have no self love.

[shy willow]

Also model 700 if you want maximum damage

[hazy steeple]

the tl;dr for Headhunter that kinda is a shame is that you need a really nice base damage.

[serene hare]

And I need that exotic cache

maybe to get something I already have to break it to pick it's component

and roll my Nemesis.

(I hate myself).

[hazy steeple]

sr1 is great btw, since it has a mag reload and hits like a truck.
no more single rounds!

[shy willow]

I do like that the HH meta at least has some variety in weapon choice now

[serene hare]

Second to my Nemesis and Mantis, I have a Brutus with very good stats.

The damage is just slightly lower than the Mantis.

[shy willow]

Oof behind you got nerfed to hell

Determined is probably still the most busted option

[hazy steeple]

Just a heads up since this is a thing that a lot of players get confused by at first: Named guns don't necessarily mean that they're better, same as Exotics.

[serene hare]

What's this again?

[shy willow]

After getting a headshot, the next shot is a guaranteed headshot no matter where you hit the target

Combined with headhunter you can comfortably one shot everything without breaking a sweat

[hexed steppe]

as long as you dont hit a red bar hyena rusher

helmets negate determined and force you to get another headshot to start the chain again

[sudden fog]

i’m doing control points rn and they are pissin me off

[hexed steppe]

go west side of the map. outcasts and true sons 😉

[hazy steeple]

True Sons are the worst faction for helmets though.

[hexed steppe]

i usually make my way south then across towards the capitol

[hazy steeple]

every 30 seconds one decides to have a lie down and your damage goes bye-bye.

[hexed steppe]

they are easy to hit, compared to hyena rusher

[sudden fog]

hotshot makes control points so easy

[hexed steppe]

the hyenas really arent that bad either. you just have to quickly follow up while they are still stunned

[tulip charm]

Well its more like determined headhunter doing the heavy lifting

[acoustic coral]

Agreed, no longer just White Death, now you can more or less run 5-6 different weapons (SR1, 3x M700 versions, WD - at the very minimum) and once you get the rolls perfected, you can start playing with .308 and stuff.

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, and even yellow rushers are 1-tap with helmets gone, so could be worse.

[hazy steeple]

I actually like Rushers, solely due to their status AoE's.

[hexed steppe]

yeah and compared to old whitedeath, both sr1 and m700 carbon variants have really quick followup

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, still slowly farming all the other MMRs so I can swap around and have fun - but I'm currently diving into other games, waiting for manhunt lore hehe

[sudden fog]

is sniper build fastest way to do control points

[serene hare]

Where do I use those damn Summit keys?

[shy willow]

The easiest for sure and probably the most efficient

[hexed steppe]

i been gearing up alts so they all have a hotshot build. ended up with an sr1 on 1 alt* and its actually pretty good. slightly less ammo but feels about the same as a carbon

[shy willow]

End of every floor ending in 3,6,9 there's a chest

Not sure but maybe the 10's too

[hazy steeple]

I tried out a dumb hotshot setup recently where I focused solely on HSD, WH, and dta (contractors, 3rd attribute)
still hits like a truck.

[hexed steppe]

not on 10, but completing gives another checkpoint

[shy willow]

Ah

[hazy steeple]

@hexed steppe Lol I love that the message was auto-modded.

[hexed steppe]

lmao

just another added to the record 😉

[hazy steeple]

If you wanna avoid it in the future, it seems to dislike intention, so saying that word followed by the letter U will trip it up.

[hexed steppe]

yeah all good, i figured that was it

[serene hare]

Is that named police magnum called "Prophet"?

Idk it's name, but I like this gun.

[hexed steppe]

there is a prophet, but afaik the talent doesnt actually work

d50 with regular determined is pretty good alternative tho

[shy willow]

It still works like the 'fixed' determined

[serene hare]

I found one of those big boxes in Summit

[sudden fog]

tf i just got a holster part from a control point

[hexed steppe]

probably dodge city project

[hazy steeple]

Just before a 3/6/9 floor turned into the next one? There's one every 3 floors, but you need a key from the previous 3 floors to open it.
There's actually a Challenge in Summit to open a bunch of them, and they also are part of the Ridgeways Project.

[serene hare]

I found this one at 13 I think

13 or 14.

[hazy steeple]

every floor where it ends with a 3, 6, or 9.

[serene hare]

How many parts?

I know it's a chestpiece.

[hazy steeple]

you get 1 part from a range of floors, the first part comes between floor 1-20, 2nd from 21-40, etc.

then finish Summit and have someone fire the Flare on Floor 100.

[shy willow]

Then you get a fairly long project to donate keys and kill stuff

[serene hare]

I got a Capacitor '-'

It simply spawned in my inventory

[glossy scarab]

woo mystery exotics

[serene hare]

It may have been a reward after leveling up somehow, or free pass maybe?

Lemme check.

[glossy scarab]

you probably inadvertantly completed the required challenges to get capacitor

maybe.. i dont remember what the challenges are and how easy itd be to do by accident

[serene hare]

Oh, I think I know

I killed 10 elites with the signature weapon.

[glossy scarab]

nice

[serene hare]

Meh...

I'd prefer a Coyote's Mask.

[rich lotus]

Can be handy in some situations

[serene hare]

As much luck as I had when rolling my Mantis, I don't have it when rolling Nemesis.

Man, I got reach, REACH.

Wtf, man? RNGs are so stupid.

[dull ermine]

Is it that bad of a nerf? Assuming you meet the criteria of not being targeted isn’t it strong because it’s basically free flatline?

[dull ermine]

Took me 30 tries to get Scorpio dttoc

I died inside a little that day

[serene hare]

I think it took me 4 or 6 rolls on my Mantis to get a god roll (I shared it here already).

[rich lotus]

Me but with EB

[serene hare]

I already rolled my Nemesis 10 times and still shit.

[dull ermine]

You don’t need dttoc you need crit chance

The logic of devs

[serene hare]

Nah, get Stability

[rich lotus]

ah the good ol days of chc on nemesis

[dull ermine]

Let’s put a random 500% melee weapon dmg mod on lady death

[rich lotus]

Good thing they allowed to reroll it was such a useless attribute lol

[dull ermine]

That will certainly give it an edge, oh wait, attempting to melee might get you killed bc animation

[serene hare]

Don't even tell me.
It was my first build.

More like an attempt.

[rich lotus]

I think it was the default attribute before they allowed us to reroll it lol

Gave me pain in the meow meow when I had to reroll to DTTOC when i had it maxed out before the exotic rerolls

Now I don't even use it and use model + rav

[dull ermine]

Me where I don’t want to give up my godrolled crit chance chameleon 😂

[rich lotus]

Pain in the meow meow frfr

[dull ermine]

Can’t wait for Damage to Targets In Cover (25%) … having one teammate suppress with bullet king 🥲

[shy willow]

Determined is free headshots 0 effort required

[dull ermine]

I think behind you is more of a rifle talent … that’s what I was comparing flatline / behind you for

The drop from 60% to 15% seems like a lot but I just wanna know where it stands

[shy willow]

The guy had Brutus iirc

[rich lotus]

Behind is an amp?

[dull ermine]

Yes

[rich lotus]

Didn't even know that lol

[dull ermine]

It’s literally flatline without tech / pulse

Assuming you’re not being targeted

[shy willow]

You can already one shot 4 man leg elites and I don't think behind you will bring it to one shot named enemies

[rich lotus]

Can snipers have it too or is it locked to certain weapon categories

[dull ermine]

Snipers can have it as well

[shy willow]

Probs first shot you could kill elites but I haven't tested

[dull ermine]

Only rifles and mmr

[shy willow]

On solo

[rich lotus]

So in theory a model with behind + decoy is more beneficial than mantis if you want more damage?

[shy willow]

Id still run mantis tbh

[rich lotus]

I mean the permanent decoys are nice

[shy willow]

Free decoys and when it works a massive target painted on enemies heads

It gets an amp to headshots on targets not aiming at you too

[rich lotus]

I have mantis and I don't think I ever used it once

Think I abused nemesis when I got it and never looked at mantis

[shy willow]

I slapped it on the other day and it's a lot of fun

[rich lotus]

Even godrolled too lol

[shy willow]

Almost nothing even pays attention to you and you can redeploy decoy as long as you get a kill

[rich lotus]

btw give @acoustic coral gate strat build I'm making him suffer next time we do incurs

[shy willow]

I refuse

There ain't even a gate strat build atp it's just yeah shoot the big one then the small one

I RAN INTO A GROUP USING BULLET KINGS AT THE GATE

I dropped out of a run on Thursday because one guy was insisting on using a perpetuation gr9

[rich lotus]

I've met some with that lol

Met my fair share of special pearls in soloq

Hybrid builds

Healer builds without hive

Bullet king striker plebs that think they're doing a lot

I soloq zoo like 2 days ago

1 guy was running strikers w bullet king and was complaining that I was running hotshot sniper build eventhough I was literally killing everything except the 300 dogs that he himself couldn't finish alone...

In the end I swapped to an ouros/famas striker I have and dealt -1502m whatever the damage was and he had 102m which was less than our healer lol

People sometimes refuses to learn

[shy willow]

Muh infinite dps

[rich lotus]

I even thought of taking a screenshot of it

The healer even said "I was wondering why we weren't killing anything before you joined" rofl

[dull ermine]

But dmg

If I use steady handed gr9 would you hate @shy willow 👁️

For incursion

[tawdry flare]

If I use 6pcs 5.11 in incursion what would you do

[dull ermine]

Is it red

After the 3rd or so reload for lovebirds I get bored

[rich lotus]

REPORT

[tawdry flare]

To who

[rich lotus]

To 5.11 police

[tawdry flare]

Your loot box will be filled with 5.11 loot

[rich lotus]

Hello 511 i'd like to report someone

[tawdry flare]

I am the 5.11 Police

[tawdry flare]

Yeah go ahead I am on leave

Will be back after 511 days

[shy willow]

😭

[muted geode]

Hi, Nice tool. But it looks like the Watch lvl is not changing the RPM of the weapons, when it should.

And it would be cool to have the calculated DPS info as well.

[patent fossil]

Why would watch level change a weapon's rpm?
Handling watch stats are accuracy, stability, reload and max ammo capacity

[muted geode]

just saw it. though was on the watch lvl some fire rate upgrade. but all my guns have a higher RPM compared to standard. will try to see why.

just find out. it is the striker gearset . but i think it should consider that bonus on the weapons details.

[dull ermine]

You’ll see it if you turn on base stats

[muted geode]

what you mean? the gear atributes and mods?

also i can't set the expertise lvl on the gear, only weapons and skills

[shy willow]

You have to be proficient with the gear you're trying to expertise

[muted geode]

I'm talking about the division 2 builds tool. I know you have to be proficient to upgrade the expertise.

[tawdry flare]

@shy willow got gate strat

[shy willow]

As in you did gate strat?

[tawdry flare]

Up to you let me tell you @bronze hound did gat strat once with me

[bronze hound]

Huh

[tawdry flare]

@half frigate was with me too

[bronze hound]

Gate strat is awful

[shy willow]

Amen

[tawdry flare]

I remember the day me you sapherstine were doing it when incursion just launched

[bronze hound]

Well we were just trying to figure out what to do tbf

[tawdry flare]

And than I suggested way out of gate start and it worked

[tawdry flare]

Will your raid have gate start as well?

[bronze hound]

Worse than that

[tawdry flare]

Nice new name for @shy willow

[shy willow]

Will change when they give gate strat floor 100 treatment

[onyx sage]

the tool isn't perfect, it isn't considering a lot of things like talents or set bonuses. you'd have to manually calculate them unfortunately

[rich lotus]

So when are they adding a gear or something that increases movement speed like lady death

[acoustic coral]

I do wish the LZ had some kind of buff to movement speed out of combat - as part of the SHD Tech (whatever those cache tokens are called, can't remember rn) upgrades. I could see it build up after an encounter then the stacks drop on combat/if you actively shoot and engage in combat (to avoid getting randomly slowed down).
Other than that, who's to say the Seasons 2.0 update (that is supposedly gonna add a new item to farm - from Yannick) isn't gonna have some movement speed?

[rich lotus]

Imagine a full 60% speed increase with lady death and some gear stuff oh gawly how nice it would feel to farm in a build like that on open world lol

[acoustic coral]

Main reason I've been wanting to run lady death a bit actuall, just do the washington monument clear after the activities has built up, speed between areas - so sad there's no more move speed buffs.

[rich lotus]

I used it a bit on summit and god it's so nice to tranverse through places very fast and get close and personal in a shorter time than it would've

Also a p nice gun for pvp

[tribal yacht]

hello i have a question as a returning player. what should i do to gear up for pve harder content? i still have the EB i got from the first day the raid dropped and i have some ok build but i saw that alot has changed so i need help with direction. what should i do?

[rich lotus]

Strikers DPS

Snipers DPS

Healer

Tank

Skill build

[tribal yacht]

thats the builds i should strive after?

[rich lotus]

Pretty much, obv it's not in order it's just in what you'd prefer but strikers will should def be primary goal since you can make many variations with the build to fit however you wanna play

[tribal yacht]

ok got it, thank you very much

[rich lotus]

There with links so you can have better visuals/explanation

[vestal ibex]

[description of link](actual hyper link) This is how you markdown links

[acoustic coral]

Ban this spammer /s

[flint wave]

ban evernote

it's links are too big

[rich lotus]

Oh yeah I always forget lol

[vestal ibex]

[thicc boi links post](#td2-build-advice message)

[rich lotus]

I always forget discord enabled that for users and not only bots tbh

[vestal ibex]

An edit will work for it too.

[rich lotus]

Boom

[rich lotus]

[raven blade]

Anyone got ideas for a better way around this (not got St Elmos 🥲), tryna get a decent build for CD and incursion.

CHC @ 47%, CHD @ 110%

[dull ermine]

I forget what button it is but there’s a button to get additional options in inventory loadout… probably touchpad ?

But there’s an option to turn on show base stats (the BASIC MOST NAKED) stats your gear and weapons have before any modifiers or weapon cores etc

@muted geode

So you will be able to see the change in RPM etc

[dull ermine]

Ceska gloves instead of Sokolova

Is your ouroboros maxed on chc

Ur chc seems kinda low

Also spec your shd watch points to crit chance

[raven blade]

Don’t think so, some of them ain’t maxed yet nor have I got the full 10% from SHD Level

[dull ermine]

Focus on chd next then

[raven blade]

SHD 69 atm and speccing on WD

[dull ermine]

Not worth

Go with crit dmg

Notice with that max you’d have 130 chd

[rich lotus]

Yep what he said just add ceska

[dull ermine]

Personally I’d drop coyotes and run grupo… same effect except 15% chd at all times

But that’s just me

[rich lotus]

For cd you could prob swap out coyote's since there will be 19 others running it lol

[rich lotus]

Pretty much what I run

[raven blade]

Was running Coyotes until I drop Bloody gloves I think it’s called

[rich lotus]

Would Ceska + Sombra be better than Ceska + Fox's?

[dull ermine]

I mean bloody is not bad but grupo will be active at all times

[rich lotus]

Bloody only for lovebirds end of incursion tbh anywhere else either coyote's or other piece

[dull ermine]

I think foxes is better if you have crit minimum

[rich lotus]

Id need to check that later for min max purposes lol

[onyx sage]

for striker ouro build?

[rich lotus]

Yep

[dull ermine]

Just hope there isn’t a bullet king

[raven blade]

Yeah

[dull ermine]

Dmg to targets in cover

[rich lotus]

4pc striker ouro with DTTOC

[onyx sage]

coyote fox or coyote grupo will both work

[rich lotus]

Without coyote's, ceska + grupo or ceska + fox's

[muted geode]

Those are the only toggles i have.

[blissful rampart]

since low SHD level go a ceska until you max out chc on watch (for oreo at least)

[dull ermine]

Bruv in game 😭

[flint wave]

run coyote ceska

[onyx sage]

yeah do ceska

[dull ermine]

touchpad

[blissful rampart]

Ceska + grupo for countdown (since many others will have coyotes)

[muted geode]

oh. i know. i was talking about the tool

[rich lotus]

Wouldn't it be better to run fox's since you'll have a lot more of crits already?

[onyx sage]

when everyone reads this no coyote will show up...

[rich lotus]

Mood

[raven blade]

Alr will do, gonna go try and drop a CHC/CHD one and yeah @blissful rampart it’s for a general DPS (CD/PL etc)

[acoustic coral]

You say that, right - but I made a build around other's having Coyote because I was like "all 3 buffs have been up every cd" -> first cd I run with the build, inspect everyone -> NO COYOTE ON 8 PEOPLE :kekwq