td2-build-advice

[magic pilot]

For LFG I would run healer throughout

For turrets I go left with 1 dps and throw a hive with him and shoot chems at the garbage truck, for tanker I throw hive on the top left side and I stay middle right and shoot chems at other 2 dps

Wright healer and 1 dps will kite him, hive stays in center table or on the floor on the edge of stage. For final fight I throw hive a little in front of the arch way and spam chems/scorpio/lefty sledgehammer

[urban latch]

Lfgs don't typically run a healer until wright

[brisk barn]

Depends on the LFG, some do some don’t
It’s whatever you feel is best in the moment

If your team struggles to survive tanker you can run healer and try

[frail marlin]

And as for dps build u go with striker or the red raid build ?

[urban latch]

Striker is generally better

[frail marlin]

Ok t’y

[brisk barn]

Strikers is insanely good with the chest piece on Incursion, there’s almost always chance for 100% upkeep of your stacks

[frail marlin]

U mean with the striker chest piece? I got the one build from pinned post with creak and obliterate

[magic pilot]

Most lfgs have someone trying to run 5pc hunters fury

Had someone running 3 pc Walker and hollowman one time

[magic pilot]

That's fine, for tanker, wright, and lovers you should be able to max striker chest but obliterate dmg is more than enough to clear easily

[frail marlin]

I could swap to the cezka gloves and striker chest if needed then

[magic pilot]

Are you running Elmo?

[frail marlin]

I don’t have it no

[spark lichen]

What are the stats on oroborus? Also whats the talent ive heard its useless but i just want to know

[frail marlin]

How do u get Elmo ? Just random loot ?

[spark lichen]

I believe so, thats how i got it.

[sudden fog]

Lfg is next level

[gritty steppe]

Hey i was wondering if y'all had some ideas on tank builds currently im running foundry with scorpio but was wondering if there is a better one to use

[sudden fog]

Check these on lfg

[patent fossil]

there's a spreadsheet linked in the pins that has stats for everything (plus a bunch of good build guides)

[sudden fog]

Shd 30k nice

[ionic frost]

I know it's not ideal but I like it for pve (my skill repair for my watch it 0) but for 369 shd on hard it keeps up

[lyric prism]

on hard it would keep you alive forever as long as you play to the strengths of the gear set. you might consider a different chest and holster with some red cores to help out with the damage but if you are happy, keep rolling it.

[solar token]

y'all have any advice for a red and blue hybrid build? looks like the link on the spreadsheet is outdated

do you still build crit? would a standard red build with a couple red cores swapped for blue be legal?

[wise swallow]

striker and HB are great red blue hybrids

[dense hound]

where might i find the 93R?

[shy willow]

Countdown

Or the sharpshooter spec

[dense hound]

?

[shy willow]

Each spec comes with an exclusive sidearm

Sharpshooter is the 93r

Perf unwavering

[dense hound]

uh well i dont like specialization locked weapons, so i wont be using that, since im using tact for its bonus in skill teir

[shy willow]

Then you gotta farm a normal 93r

[acoustic coral]

At SHD 369 tho, genuinely, why don't you have a "proper" build and play Heroic. Why even bother at hard?

[vestal ibex]

Bonus skill tier? You mean tdi kard custom?

That is the pistol that when held gives an extra skill tier. It's a named DZ pistol and can be obtained in named caches if you don't want to farm PVP.

[rich cosmos]

Tactician

He even said using tact

[ionic frost]

Imagine trying at a game I can play at my own pace

[ionic frost]

I can not my fault it works for the time being

[acoustic coral]

You're posting in the build-advice channel and mentioned it yourself, "on hard it keeps up" - which means your build is kinda shite, no offense, and we're gonna be giving you advice.
There's really no way to get that build to Heroic

Which is why I was kinda frank and ask why even bother

[shy willow]

Yeah aegis is just all round shit

I tried pretty hard to make it work but nah

DR is too low to be worth anything

Any build is good on hard

Chal is where the truly garbage ones are filtered out and heroic is where you need something semi competent

[cyan drift]

some day I'll get to try this out vs grey or something

that noise is just 🤌

game legit couldn't even render some of the shots

[devout agate]

What’s the best ewuipment to use

I’m using the shield what else should I use

[cyan drift]

depends on what you're doing

[devout agate]

Dps build Ig

I just started today so I’m trying to see what’s the overall best

[cyan drift]

the first build people should make is a very normal DPS build, which is usually strikers battlegear, and two other pieces

then a shield and revive hive

[devout agate]

oh

currently level 10 💀

what’s max level

[cyan drift]

oh, then you have a long ways to go, so enjoy it

it's level 30, and then a bunch of other stuff happens, and then the DLC

I won't spoil things, just cause you only get to experience it for the first time once

[devout agate]

Alright I appreciate it

[solar token]

Can’t think of a build that wouldn’t hold up on hard tbf

[ancient dune]

are you not running the large pouch? jokes nvm

[cyan drift]

I have level 1 armor on one of my guys, and hard is still just... not hard

[hazy steeple]

Well it's all pretty relative. After a while even Heroic will become your "standard" difficulty.

[dense hound]

is there a percent chance to find the 93R in the countdown?

[tulip charm]

50/50

You get it or you don’t.

[cyan drift]

I'll do heroic stuff but heroic open world gets old fast

like, I just wanted to a level 4 cp

but a convoy is leaving, and one just arrived

and a patrol just came by

and a quadcopter just spawned in

[flint wave]

I wish that happened to me more

most I'll get is there's a resource convoy ontop of the cp

[cyan drift]

it is essentially every time I play heroic open world, so I just don't anymore

[flint wave]

do not hunt collectibles on heroic open world worst mistake of my life

[hazy steeple]

It's basically "whatever" out of how many pistols there are.
but you should get it within a few runs.

[cyan drift]

the world if 93R was full-auto

[flint wave]

carpal tunnel issue

[cyan drift]

pocket vector, just hold the button down

but instead it's 1300 rpm and will never even come close to actually getting that

so it's just a mouse breaker

[rich lotus]

Add blues to striker build

?

[tulip charm]

You can if you need the extra toughness

[sterile sequoia]

Is it ok to swap out the coyote for GS mask when someone else has it in group?

Full red striker Ofc

[silent storm]

I have been playing Striker with Coyote and Contractor Gloves with 4 Armor Regen blues, Healing Skill on the Battle Gloves and Armor On Kill and Healing Received mods. Repairer Drone with +healing mods and of course the Bulletking. Not having to reload makes Striker fun.

[shy willow]

If you want survivability on striker use blues and/or memento

Armor regen attributes are useless without the ones that give you a percentage regen

That and repair skills useless on dps

Its killing your crit

I’ve seen people use forge on dps so idk about incoming repairs

[rich lotus]

The diff damn

[shy willow]

Ye semi auto turns it into a rifle

Like +450 percent damage or something

[sterile sequoia]

Ok

[rich lotus]

EB def helps a ton with survivability but you can just slap your prefered ar

[sterile sequoia]

Oh yeah btw

Why is everyone using the Kard pistol?

[rich lotus]

Nothing else better to use lol

It gives 1 skill tier when you hold it in hand

[sterile sequoia]

Ah

[rich lotus]

Good if you need to pop a skill with a better level for example reinforcer chem

[sterile sequoia]

Belstone drop with red core?

Ic

[rich lotus]

Nope

I got one with armor regen CHC and blue core

Then I just swapped the core to red 🤷

[sterile sequoia]

As so I need to get a cc cd and obliterate

[rich lotus]

Also you can play this build with 1-2 blue cores too with no issues

[rich lotus]

EB cc and chd

From that build

[rich lotus]

I think I have the knee pads blue core but cant remember

It almost gives the feeling of div1 striker except you get tons of armor + extra armor on kills instead of hits

[sterile sequoia]

Ah so I can drop a CD and CC and still be at 100 and 50 +

That’s a relief

Health on kill would be nomad but yeah

[rich lotus]

No health on kill

Armor only

Belstone 2pc gives 1.0% armor regen + 10% armor on kill

[sterile sequoia]

And with Gunner so 20

[rich lotus]

Yep

[sterile sequoia]

Nice

[rich lotus]

So as long as you're beaming with striker which you usually will be at max stack you will have an insane amount of survivability

I haven't tested it in a group though, only solo with it

In groups I usually go full red

[sterile sequoia]

Alright Gonna copy this

[rich lotus]

Have fun

[acoustic coral]

Did they change the base dmg yet though? (Or was that a conversation with someone else)

[rich lotus]

They're still working on it damage wise stats

Gears are already fixed so just damage calcs and etc left

And soon they will also implement something to calculate talents too which will be even nicer

[acoustic coral]

[tidal valve]

is that what i called a DPS?

[rich lotus]

I guess you can call it that but only good for solo content with survivability

[quasi mason]

6 million damage

[tidal valve]

I prefer DZ farming build with 4 pc strikers and memento :/

[rich lotus]

That works too 🤷

[tidal valve]

well it's personal preference

[tidal valve]

BRUH MOMENT

[rich lotus]

It is pretty much memento but you get the extra armor on kills and not having to go kiss the npcs

[rich lotus]

Yep

[acoustic coral]

mfw backup looks like this

[rich lotus]

Waduheck am I lookng at

Whats the first one

When you reach 10k shd so you just spend expertise skill gears

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, that was interesting

[hexed steppe]

God mode activated

[acoustic coral]

I almost didn't endorse them out of spite

[hexed steppe]

Should roll all the pieces/mods for crit. Swap out coyote for memento.
Memento will net you:
-3% regen
-30-60% weapon damage( depending on red cores)
-bonus armor (depending on blue cores)
-30+ skill efficiency (% in every skill bucket [skill repair, skill health, skill damage, skill haste, skill duration, status effects]
Memento probably covers all your blue/yellow attributes and then some...

[short verge]

Local dumbass wants to show off their "skill" """build""" in the hopes of gaining street credit.

[magic pilot]

Don't post names of

[short verge]

This is me.

I am local dumbass.

[acoustic coral]

Atleast that build makes sense

[short verge]

[magic pilot]

Fair

[tidal valve]

what am i looking at...

[short verge]

You're looking at a Striker build that thinks they're a skill build.

[magic pilot]

Better than 2 empress 3 striker and ninja

[tidal valve]

yeah

[short verge]

Trust me, it cooks.

[magic pilot]

I would personally not use picaros on striker in pve literally ever

[hazy steeple]

slow-heating for 8 hours to cook one meal is sometimes nice, but not exactly great when people are due to arrive in half an hour.

[short verge]

But that's like one red core for free. 🥺

[magic pilot]

Ceska is better

Or at least grupo lol

[hazy steeple]

Striker is just not a good fit for a Skill build.
gearset pieces only having 1 attribute that you can make skill-y means that anything you use is going to be super weak.

[magic pilot]

Picaros is a noob trap in pve like ninja in the entire game

[short verge]

🥺

[magic pilot]

Hot take of the day

[short verge]

You don't trust me.

I promise it cooks.

[hazy steeple]

It's not a matter of trust lol, it's simple maths.

[magic pilot]

Not sure what that has to do with picaros 🤣

[hazy steeple]

What difficulty are you playing this on and in what mode?

[magic pilot]

noob trap

[short verge]

Heroic. Sometimes Legendary if I have time.

[magic pilot]

Just throwing this out there

[short verge]

Best build I've seen.

[tidal valve]

WHAT AM I LOOKING AT \

[short verge]

A build that definitely exists inside the videogame The Division 2 developed by Massive.

[hazy steeple]

Raucey disagreeing on what Viable means, monetised. 😜

[magic pilot]

It's Essentially there to show viable means absolutely nothing in solo heroic

[acoustic coral]

Damn, Raucey was cooking. Just needed NBB in there kapp

[magic pilot]

Don't think it was out yet lol

[tidal valve]

NBB?

[short verge]

Ninjabike Backpack?

[magic pilot]

Yes

[acoustic coral]

1y ago, surely it was

[magic pilot]

Not sure

Description

[short verge]

Anything is viable if you're good at the game.

[magic pilot]

That's exactly what he said lol

[short verge]

Yes.

That's the tl;dr.

[magic pilot]

Which makes using that term "viable" as a measure of how good a build is meaningless

[short verge]

Because of this, I will now use the Rugged Gauntlets in Legendary mode.

[magic pilot]

Rotorblitz beat you to it I think lol

[acoustic coral]

New meta, 5 gear sets and NBB

[short verge]

Dang.

[hazy steeple]

Just a reminder that the word most people mean when they ask "is a build viable" is actually "optimal".

[short verge]

I think those same people also mean "will this carry me through Legendary," too.

[magic pilot]

99% of people do not build optimally though

Technically for exotic smg, such as lady death or ouro when using a 4pc gearset other than nego or umbra it's best to use coyotes and ceska despite being over the crit cap

[hazy steeple]

The bulk of div2 player's are not familiar with the spreadsheet and youtube is kinda all you can rely on, so that does make sense.

[magic pilot]

True

[hazy steeple]

Well the thing with Coyotes+smg is that SMG's are mostly within the first buff range, which doesn't give you chc.

[magic pilot]

Exactly, so instead of running grupo/coyotes and using 1 extra chc mod. Its higher dps/more optimal to use ceska and be 2% over the cap

[short verge]

Real question is why does the Rifle archetype come with Crit Damage instead of something reasonable like Swap Speed?

[magic pilot]

It's one of those weird things most people don't do despite it being better to do

[short verge]

Mega /sarcasm

[hazy steeple]

Rifles are based around crit, MMR's are the headshot machines.

just in case someone reads it later.

[magic pilot]

Rifles are basically useless sadly

[short verge]

Not in my hands.

[hazy steeple]

well one family is great, the rest are kinda pants.

and Ravenous.

[short verge]

However, I can't aim for my life with Sniper Rifles.

[hazy steeple]

and the Australian or whatever it's called now.
yes I know it sucks, I don't care.

[urban latch]

M1a cqb is still one of the top guns

[magic pilot]

True, other than that though🤷‍♂️

[short verge]

Classic M1A gang.

[magic pilot]

Thoughts on 3 lengmo high end lmg build @urban latch

[magic pilot]

Nerfing yourself lol

[short verge]

I am aiming.

[urban latch]

It's a terribly balanced class, and I've got no idea why there's no gearset intended for them

[short verge]

The other M1A variants don't feel right.

[magic pilot]

Devs are terrified they become good again

[hazy steeple]

Just bring back Deadeye and make it focused around Rifles.

[magic pilot]

Aces-rifles

[short verge]

Bullet King gaming.

Wait wrong reply

L

[magic pilot]

I like how at one point we had 3 pretty good mmr sets so they just nerfed one into the ground and made one better in every way compared to the one they didn't change

[short verge]

Which set?

[magic pilot]

Tip of the spear got a huge nerf

Basically a dead set now

[short verge]

As if it was ever usable???

[magic pilot]

Wdym it was one of the best builds in the game😭

[short verge]

Div1 signature skills > Div2 signature weapons

Gimme my tactical link again and grant me 2000 rpm bullet king

[hazy steeple]

Div1 has healy cans. Div2 has a flame thrower.
div2 wins.

[short verge]

Dang, you got me there.

[magic pilot]

I like the medkit system in D1 better but specs are better in D2. They should have found a way to make it more fluid though

Switching between 4 weapons and 2 skills is a little ridiculous sometimes

[urban latch]

Controller problems

[magic pilot]

True lol

[hazy steeple]

I do want the ridiculous timed buffs from div1 back.

"go eat a candy bar, we gotta fight keener"

[short verge]

"Drink water; suddenly boss melter."

Actually, that's a good message for gamers. DRINK YOUR WATER; BECOME UNSTOPPABLE.

[lyric prism]

Black Market AK-M. is it better now?

[modern heron]

Any1 have a build for a dread edict?

[magic pilot]

Dmg wise yes

[magic pilot]

Putting it in the stash

[lyric prism]

ok. Danny Weaver box gifted a max'd rolled with dttoc. so keeping it, trying to decide on talent if strained is not the usual besides fast hands.

[magic pilot]

Flatline

[lyric prism]

don't use it much but ok, save it for when.

can barely stack strained before it needs to reload.

[magic pilot]

lol

[lyric prism]

seems to go to 15 rounds from a named target box at 15 yrd from full.

wow, yea, fast hands or flatline.

Stabilize is nice on it.

I'm sure with expertise on it would be a nice per round hit.

[magic pilot]

Omfg

Got a new st Elmo first control point in open world

[acoustic coral]

It's one of those things where I love-hate it.
Love because consumables are a stable part of mmo's, hate because you aren't exactly carrying around 100 flasks of water (because it had a max stack) like you would in WoW

[urban latch]

You need to update your name

[magic pilot]

Done

RNG was good to me today, 4th reroll it was 2 total optimizations from maxed

[modern heron]

Whats a good skill set asking for a friend

[lyric prism]

Cooking, cleaning, assassination...

?

[modern heron]

Ahahahhahhaha

[hazy steeple]

To be fair, in div2 I'm carrying around hundreds of single children's shoes so it's not a lot better.

[hexed steppe]

I made something similar (skill/dps) the other day. Hits pretty good with solid crit.
Armor ain't much, should roll your picaros yellow and get another red core out of the build.

[lyric prism]

for real ep cc fire set

[short verge]

Copying this. I don't really use High-end based builds so my mileage may wildly vary with me.

[short verge]

What a gorgeous crit damage stat, though.

[hexed steppe]

It's not bad. With memento stacks its putting in work.
I'll dig up a link to original post that has some damage numbers.
With the event I was seeing around 1.1-1.3m with polarity buff

#td2-build-advice message

[tawdry flare]

What about my name

[magic pilot]

Love it

[hexed steppe]

Those Lootcifer sacrifices really paid off 😈

[magic pilot]

Seriously did lol

[tawdry flare]

I need a new PfP

[magic pilot]

The meme of the guy holding his head in his hands

Descent into madness

[acoustic coral]

Oh, yeah, nah, more because div1 had a limit on how many consumables you could carry.
If you could carry way more (and you could just "buy" them like you would in any other mmo, instead of having to find them in the world) they would be more used.

[silent storm]

I don't have momento

[hexed steppe]

Good opportunity to farm it. It's the hardest working single piece of gear in the game

[magic pilot]

I just pulled another double crit Henri

RNG is nuts today

[hexed steppe]

Let me send you my login info, I need a coyote for my alt

[magic pilot]

I got you, booting the pc up right now

Coyotes was my first exotic on pc lol

[dull ermine]

just build like the countdown nerds - get your chc from someone hopefully running coyotes and get all 3 buffs randomly

[acoustic coral]

Stop calling me and my cooked bluescreen dilemma build out

[lyric prism]

did you hear about the tale of....

[tawdry flare]

If you get pde 13 mod in open world only than I would believe rng is good today

[magic pilot]

Would be my first

[dull ermine]

12.9% 👁️

[tawdry flare]

Only have 2 😭

Azure don't have one

[dull ermine]

i found 2 11% last week 🤓

[tawdry flare]

Even vendor's sell 12% when they will allow vendor to sell max out mod I would buy 1 for around 500k credits in game

[magic pilot]

I had a 12 drop in leg and 2 max skill mods

I wanted to trade them for a 13

[dull ermine]

I get max skill duration mods lol

[magic pilot]

I need 1 more max haste

Think I broke one down

[pastel shard]

I broke down one of my chill out masks only to realise I need it

[versed summit]

That’s rough

[warm socket]

How am i gonna get CHC and CHD on My fox’s prayer

[hazy steeple]

Well you can't get both since it has a locked stat, but you can get one or the other.

[hexed steppe]

You only need 1 with chd. If you need chc in the build foxs will be a downgrade. Same goes for contractors

Realistically the 3 foxs needed for most builds will be 1x with chd, 1x with hsd, 1x skill damage (so can be yellow core for oxi build)

[gusty ravine]

Looking for a build for tank and a bit of dps so I can bloody do the manhunt missions shd lvl 100

[pastel shard]

check the pinned msg with the sheet

[hexed steppe]

Striker or hunters fury with some blue cores

[warm socket]

Ty

[magic pilot]

I'm ready for reanimated lol

[onyx sage]

where sacrum

[magic pilot]

Next to my chameleon

[lyric prism]

I so want to do one of those fixed width patch looking things talking about bluescreen and ND and a chd nerf.

just to see a certain someone spasms.

(he isn't here is he)

[solar sable]

is it god rolled or is the 3rd attribute wrong?

[lyric prism]

damage to armor on 3rd would be the universal best roll.

[solar sable]

what a shame...

at least I got it lmao

[lyric prism]

roll it on a ND build. it would be pretty useful. it will give better numbers with dta.

[solar sable]

which one is a ND?

[lyric prism]

Negotiator's.

[solar sable]

oh right, I'll take a look

[warm socket]

Why is it so hard to get

Lemgo chest Blue core chc chd unbreakable

And

Lemgo backpack Blue core CHC CHD adrenaline rush or vigilance

[lyric prism]

bc you are trying to get dps stats on a primarily non-dps piece.

well, non-weapon damage piece.

[warm socket]

But i need dps stats on it for pvp Build

[lyric prism]

you just got to keep farming.

[warm socket]

True

[lyric prism]

its like The Setup. great backpack for a support or red FI build w/ shotguns. I went through idk how many.

I've played since the first betas but didn't do fanatic play so at 1800hrs/87k pieces of loot. I've kept under 400 total and many of those are bc of their max level rolls or able to switch talent but are in the stash as 'in case I use one day'.

think about that loot salavage to keep ratio.

nevermind actually usable.

[lyric prism]

let me ask you this, what normally red rolling pieces do you have in non-talent areas can you get easier and put unbreakable on?

I would use that and put he lemgo in the off slots.

you will remove the talent need roll from your drop requirements.

i started doing such a strategy for my dps pieces to roll blue as needed, much easier to get.

[warm socket]

Wait What

Its for an pvp lmg Build thats Why i need legmo

[lyric prism]

ah ok, so you need blue cores.

[warm socket]

Yuuup

[lyric prism]

nvm, nasal pressure.

[warm socket]

✌🏻✌🏻

[lyric prism]

fevers and allergies are not good.

[warm socket]

Oh

[lyric prism]

but yea, how I find pve parts. try to get the normally rolling blue cores in off pieces w/o talents. that was if I do get say a chc/chd drop I can just role the core red and be done vs. trying to fish for a talent on them as well. I seem to have luck this way

[warm socket]

I Want that luck lol

[lyric prism]

Countdown and YT vids.

vege with a cc setup.

[warm socket]

Yeah im farming countdown rn, so Many rounds without nothing

[lyric prism]

ya

[warm socket]

I just need

Like 2 out of the 3 Rolls on Them

And ofc talents

[lyric prism]

what other pieces are you doing? contractors I'm guessing on one.

[warm socket]

Yup

And ehh

Picaro’s holster and cayote’s mask

And Then ofc legmo kneepads

So just need the backpack and chest

[lyric prism]

ok so that is why you are stuck farming for chest/backpack in those, yea no way around it.

[warm socket]

Yeah:/

[lyric prism]

someone with more pvp experience than me might say something about it but I remember a talk on lmg pvp setup and the consensus was just go with a normal universal build.

[warm socket]

Bruh

[lyric prism]

but the stats on the legmo are hard to ignore w/ only two red cores effective.

[warm socket]

True

[lyric prism]

I know vigilance is good for the alpha strike but after that dies so unless you can front load I always go ad rush, just so much more usable in a fight.

you going Pesti or RPK?

[warm socket]

Whats that..

[lyric prism]

Pestilence or RPK lmgs'

[warm socket]

Pestilence

Untill i get iron lung

[lyric prism]

got ya. ya IL seems to be a favorite w/ the status if you got some yellow cores for more status or something.

cores/status rolls*

[warm socket]

Yeah

But i need a invaded mission With lmg tageted loot

[lyric prism]

I just say RPK like New reliable. two of those and they are like lasers.

[warm socket]

What is tok

[lyric prism]

idk how that would work in a serious lmg setup through, you got swap speed up, sure, without its not going to work.

[warm socket]

Rpk*

[lyric prism]

those kind.

[warm socket]

Oooh

[lyric prism]

so I just put on my eclipse set but put on a picaros and coyote so its like your setup, the other cores give no dps.

[magic pilot]

Martin is in my clan btw

[magic pilot]

I was helping him farm for lmg pvp build before I got off

[warm socket]

I see i see

[warm socket]

Yessir

[lyric prism]

oh ok, so you got good advice. Pesti is a nicer setup.

[magic pilot]

Coyotes, contractors, 3 lengmo, picaros

He doesn't have iron lung yet so pesti is probably his best option till he gets an RPK

[lyric prism]

with the talent fixed on New Reliable, easier to farm them but again named piece so mileage may vary on loot.

Iron Lung just has the better damage and sustain.

[magic pilot]

Yea that's true

I think L86 with dmg talent is stronger

Iron lung just has great "suppression"

[lyric prism]

L86 is the best for base dmg, yes. shorter mag hair less in all areas RPK has lesser damage as the difference.

[warm socket]

L86?

[magic pilot]

I prefer RPK just because of the extra rounds

[lyric prism]

I prefer RPK bc of the noise it makes. I don't pvp much if it all so yea.

Martin: this is IL wearing the above setup I said w/ 16 expertise.

it is the better weapon but an RPK is a good hold me over. two is better.

for an idea.

[warm socket]

What about this one?

[lyric prism]

can't see the talent. crit chc don't hurt but more dta don't hurt.

keep farming.

[magic pilot]

Not rolled?

[warm socket]

Nope

[magic pilot]

Favorite that sucker rn

[fervent nymph]

Can anybody help me with a hard-core question regarding your stash and mailbox? I see now that we are able to have a 300 limit stash but we cannot use our mailbox from our regular character anymore if this a bug or is this gonna be fixed it has only happened within the last couple weeks that we cannot use the stuff that we had stored in our mailboxin a regular character to use for our hard-core character

[warm socket]

Allright

[magic pilot]

Really good lmg

[warm socket]

Nice

[lyric prism]

what is the talent?

[warm socket]

Ranger

[lyric prism]

huh

yea keep it

[warm socket]

Allright

[lyric prism]

the Deconstucter has you set.

[urban latch]

Crit chance on there is perfect, so you can reroll the talent as many times to whatever you want

[warm socket]

Ight

[warm socket]

So Should i reroll frit chance?

Or swap it for somthn Else

[lyric prism]

no. leave the chc.

[urban latch]

Leave it and you can swap the talent to whatever. Crit chance is what you want on the third roll

[lyric prism]

^ that

[warm socket]

Oh okay, so Should the talent stay ranger or some other better talent? Can you reccomend somthn

[urban latch]

Ranger can be good, but I would prefer strained. But you could also run something like frenzy, unhindered, fast hands, etc. Basically having the third stat already be what you want is very valuable because there's generally a single best option for that, but multiple options for your talent, so you can freely swap talents as you please

[warm socket]

I see, Thank you😊

[lyric prism]

if he had one of the better talents would you still keep the chc bc he is running contractors and the gun gives a free source of chc?

[warm socket]

Oh No i use chd on My contractors

[magic pilot]

In pvp DTA would be slightly better

In pve you want chc

[warm socket]

Ooh

[lyric prism]

yea but contractors has DTA on it is why I'm asking.

but with the specific RPK in mind having a rollable talent with max stats is the better option.

[magic pilot]

Yep

I think DTA is still slightly stronger with contractors

It'd be really close

DTA basically has 100% uptime in PvP

[lyric prism]

but how much does the DR kick in hard at though? 12% or something I thought.

[magic pilot]

DR?

@warm socket I'm gonna be back on in about an hour. Headed home soon

[warm socket]

Ight

[lyric prism]

stacking reduction effectiveness.

[magic pilot]

What does dr mean though

Well DTA roll and and contractors is 12%

[lyric prism]

dynamic reduction? the scale of stacking stats where it starts to ramp off in effectiveness.

someone brain for me here.

[acoustic coral]

It's not a bug - it was always supposed to be this way and was changed with Project Resolve.
Because you shouldn't mix hardcore with softcore progression

[acoustic coral]

I'll keep my brain, thanks

[lyric prism]

same as you keep your bluescreen huh

[acoustic coral]

Countdown only

[hexed steppe]

i dont think its possible to stack enough dta where you would need to worry about diminishing returns

[lyric prism]

yes ty diminishing returns.

[magic pilot]

I haven't seen the abbreviation before my bad

[lyric prism]

I give up thinking w/ antihistamines and things.

[hexed steppe]

☕

[lyric prism]

I'm at my limit.

[magic pilot]

I like dynamic reduction way more than diminishing returns

[warm socket]

Bro i cant get a normal legmo chest in countdown, only carpenter or the bomb chest thing

[magic pilot]

That's the same one lol

[hexed steppe]

do you have a crafting blueprint for it'

[lyric prism]

craft it

[magic pilot]

Also the named items in the last 2 years are bugged

[warm socket]

I dont Think..

[magic pilot]

They are marked as normal loot so farming their brand drops a ton of them

[warm socket]

How do i get the blueprint

[acoustic coral]

DR is usually Damage Reduction, not Diminishing Returns (although the use changes a bit, which is confusing because Damage Reduction usually has Diminishing Returns)

[hexed steppe]

season reward, probably not available

[solar sable]

CP4 or with Inaya, but high end are not available with her iirc

[magic pilot]

Isn't lengmo this season? Or was it last

[hexed steppe]

dynamic reduction sounds pretty good tbh. i knew what moonie was getting at

i thought it was last since it got a boost with resolve

[lyric prism]

it does sound better

[hexed steppe]

yeah aegis and palisades this season

[magic pilot]

Rip

Was last season, meaning it's locked now

[acoustic coral]

I dislike it, because something that's dynamic usually changes in combat (as a general terminology, I'm not talking Div2 specific, neither with the DR message). Your stats are static from gear.

[magic pilot]

Gotta wait 4 years for season reruns

[warm socket]

What is CP4🙏🏻

[magic pilot]

Control point level 4

Don't bother you can't get the blueprint

[solar sable]

control points lvl4/Heroic

[magic pilot]

Just keep farming the brand

[solar sable]

yeah...

[warm socket]

Oh:(

[lyric prism]

yea, its like me and Lefty's since I missed a chunk of S10.

[magic pilot]

It happens, you miss stuff sometimes

[magic pilot]

I don't have lefty either I did S10

Pretty sure it's in descent

[onyx sage]

lefty bp is descent only

[lyric prism]

that is weird. its says it was an S10 drop right in the crafting table.

[magic pilot]

Whoops

[onyx sage]

rip automod

[magic pilot]

They mess up the blueprints every season for named items

[lyric prism]

yea true

oh well, the things drop so much I got two max rolled good ones.

[magic pilot]

I'm pretty sure we are supposed to get the blueprints for the named items in the pass

[lyric prism]

yay fixed talents.

[magic pilot]

But it's been broken for so long

I think that's why closer/setup and picaros/Hermano were stealth added to control point drops

[hexed steppe]

and what a great add that was 💯

[lyric prism]

yea after TU20 hit when I did a map flip for the first time in a while all the sudden started getting those.

and Umbra

[magic pilot]

Honeslty not a bad idea if they were consistent

[onyx sage]

rip shield splinterer blueprint

[magic pilot]

I got hunter killer lol

[onyx sage]

nice

[lyric prism]

aren't both on Casey?

[tulip charm]

yeah

[onyx sage]

blueprint

[lyric prism]

I need to finish up the NY hunters.

[onyx sage]

the original items are always sold from cassie, but blueprint means you can just craft them

[magic pilot]

Someone csn drop it to you

[lyric prism]

ya

with Vindicator now working w/ Focus wonder if that will make it better'ish

[hexed steppe]

hunter killer?

[magic pilot]

Yea

[lyric prism]

wait. the bp or get it from Casey and drop the gear?

[hexed steppe]

craft or purchase right... not sure if it can be dropped

[magic pilot]

Open from crate

[hexed steppe]

ig if you open case first time in group

[tulip charm]

It can be drop if you open it from crate

[warm socket]

Lol Got it in a cache, its so bad

[tulip charm]

in a group

[lyric prism]

ah ok ya

[magic pilot]

You get crate on every character

[warm socket]

My other one is Much better

[lyric prism]

it shall make an excellent exo part.

[warm socket]

Is backfire SMG good? The exotic one? And What do i use it for

[hexed steppe]

whats so bad is that flip phone screenshot

[lyric prism]

welcome to the hive.

[warm socket]

Yes indeed

[warm socket]

No i just zoomed in alot lol

[lyric prism]

its good if you like to deal with the bleed or want to compromise and deal with the stats.

[warm socket]

But Whats the Build for it

[lyric prism]

or you run a psycho DZ setup w/ no stats.

[warm socket]

Oh

Lol

[hexed steppe]

hazpro. but you trade a lot of crit to get there so backfire is kinda break even with a long ramp up time (4mags)

[lyric prism]

to mitigate the effects needs 93%? bleed resist. or something like that.

[hexed steppe]

good component tho

[lyric prism]

there are people who just run with a fixer drone and say they are fine. Your mileage will vary.

[hexed steppe]

that bleed is terrible though

[lyric prism]

for giggles I did try w/ ninja/3p striker/1p picaro/1p ceska. try to up the drone while bringing in some sort of hazpro just to see. it sort of works.

yea you need to build for it. backfire is just great if you got no other stat left to roll on gear except chc.

and even then, get a different gun unless you got like max ROF rolled in.

hell even Elmo's does better in that given situation.

if you were bent on it you could roll like 4p striker, 2p ceska and roll hazpro on all of it w/ a bleed mod in a slot. you would be immune.

you ramp time would be extreme though.

Backfire does have better range tham most subs though but again the trade offs are eh

[warm socket]

So backfire is No good?

[hexed steppe]

not really. if you had a cheap way of getting immune to the bleed it would be ok. but its a long ramp up for the extra damage and it drops pretty quick with a need to stack it again

elmo, or highend will do a lot better

[warm socket]

So just, demolish to exotic parts

[lyric prism]

yea the stack last maybe 10 secs. if someone comes along you are not downing them

yes.

[warm socket]

Okay

Imma just demolish the extras i Got Then

[lyric prism]

I use one for oddball whacky ninja build weird ness bc me. I do not recommend to anyone to use it.

[warm socket]

Oh🤣

[lyric prism]

for my boxfarm build I like it bc I built that with backfire in mind for something new to do.

but for pve, no point.

its great for stealing a chest while someone is engaging a heroic landmark though.

[warm socket]

Whats boxfarm

Oh xD

[lyric prism]

yea, I don't pvp. the DZ is for me a scavange and steal place.

[warm socket]

I do alot of dz😅✌🏻

[lyric prism]

on ps?

[magic pilot]

He's mainly a pvp player but he's low shd so he's farming for pvp builds a lot

[warm socket]

Yeah

[warm socket]

Yup

[lyric prism]

have fun with it. the pvp is worth doing if you like it.

[warm socket]

I like pvp, killing players🤩

The funniest thing is when players rage over you killed Them🤣

[magic pilot]

Once I fix my pvp builds we can run stuff. Few of the clan members run pvp often

[warm socket]

Nice🤩

[lyric prism]

its even more fun when you steal the box in their landmark and they can't status or pulse you. granted its not very often but the rage is great.

[warm socket]

I agree

[lyric prism]

but I do like to watch Conflict so I might give that a try one day.

[warm socket]

Sometimes, i steal the box, run away and destroy the stuff i Got lol

[rocky rain]

What is better: DMG to target o/o cover or damage to armor? Ik have it on 2 separate Elmos

[hexed steppe]

out of cover

[warm socket]

But anyway, been farming countdown for too long now, the last 3 rounds i joined People just left after the main Objective was complete

[lyric prism]

oh yea. I've done worse though, I had one chase me, got his buddy, idk, they gunned me down bc I didn't go to a safe spot I just wanted the rage. I hear 'lol die you hacking bleep bleep' and then the real rage when the realize I had six purples on me.

you want rage, steal their stuff and then make their time in effort suffer for nothing.

[warm socket]

LMAO

Genius

[warm socket]

Trueee

[rocky rain]

Other question, some talents/mods initiate when you kill an enemy, does that include killing with a skill?

[lyric prism]

there is a couple, yes.

not combined arms, what is the skill kill to give skill damage one.

not tech support.

but that combined with like glass cannon on chest makes a great hide afk turret/drone setup. hold a Scorpio and let the DTA on it be used by your skills and shoot as needed.

[warm socket]

What?

[onyx sage]

your gear or mod inventory is probably full

[warm socket]

Ty

[lyric prism]

yea you need space in your bags for loadout transfers including skill mods.

[foggy crag]

I am kinda wondering what i can ad in the empty slots of this build ?

[acoustic coral]

chc/chd > weapon damage > stability stuff
(also, get to getting that ceska chest + grupo mask)

[foggy crag]

yeah i will be able to do that tomorrow because then i can actually farm stuff 😄

the ceska chest is that named or just the chest piece of it?

[hexed steppe]

stating the obvious, but you need to change 2 pieces to anything else since you are running 6pc striker when you only need 4 maximum

[gusty ravine]

So I need some help so I'm a red build and I have 95.6% crit dmg and I have 48.0% Chance do I need to get my Chance higher??

[foggy crag]

yeah but tomorrow i will have time for it

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the build, but ideally you want to be as close to 60% as possible .
If ar and coyote 50-55% is good

[gusty ravine]

Ehmm I play heartbreaker

Only build I have lol until I find some more

[hexed steppe]

Ceska piece will bring the chc up.
Also making sure you use chc mods on weapon

[gusty ravine]

I think my critical dmg is so high due to I forgot to balance my shd watch out

[gusty ravine]

Only reason I'm asking is cause I was doin fine with it until I kept dying on the wolf hunt bounty lol

[hexed steppe]

Bringing chc up increases overall dps.
Dead npcs dont shoot back.
Sheild and revive hive help with survivability

[acoustic coral]

Send us a picture of your build, friend

[gusty ravine]

Ye I do that but I'm stupid and just sit at the door where they spawn and hope my shotgun doesn't run out of bullets lol

[gusty ravine]

Please don't laugh at it

[acoustic coral]

It's build advice - the fact that you're asking is already a good sign ^^

[gusty ravine]

It got me this far lol

1 second its uploading to the xbox network

[acoustic coral]

Damn, we aren't even getting phone pic. Apploud this guy

[gusty ravine]

Lol

[onyx sage]

yeah you need crit mods too

[hexed steppe]

Pop a mod into the chest, currently empty

[gusty ravine]

Oops that's my fault

I must of cleared it by accident

[pastel crane]

I know tank builds ain't amount much, but let's say I wanna make one.

What builds you recommend?

[gusty ravine]

@hexed steppe it's 48.4%

Imma just play around with my mods on my gear

So I got it to 53.1% but my crit dmg is 72.8%

[delicate rivet]

Is determined in any vendor?

[silent storm]

It's crazy that there are more than 100 mods yet they still limit the inventory to 100 mods

[acoustic coral]

You have CHC and CHD on all gear pieces (as minor attributes, just wanna make sure you don't have anything else like Weapon handling or headshot damage)

[acoustic coral]

This is higher overall damage
48% CHC × 95,6% CHD = 4.588,8
53,1% CHC × 72,8% CHD = 3.865,68

[gusty ravine]

Are they good numbers??

[acoustic coral]

They can only be good numbers if they're max rolls. Get to grinding, but the first option is best. Generally, you want 60%CHC without coyote's mask, but since you drop so much CHD to get there, it's not worth it.

[gusty ravine]

Tbh I just did the control points

And then just did the points but I thought I could get 1 done then do the next

And so on lol

[silent storm]

Can you still farm check points buy just joining random people and beat them same CP over and over for the supply room chest? I know that as how I farmed mods a few years ago

[dense hound]

so im still unsure of a build, but weapons i like to use are shotguns and automatics and occasionally snipers, i run tact for the additional skill teir, and im unsure of a sidearm, and i dont want a build that shreds everything, but i want a build that doesnt have me struggling to live in anything higher than normal

[acoustic coral]

Shotguns-Automatics: Striker, Heartbreaker, Hunters Fury
Snipers: Hotshot, Headhunter

[lyric prism]

Heartbreaker, Ceksa chest with obliterate, just watch what is around you and get to know your enemies and what they do.

roll blue cores to red until you feel you have enough armor. 3r/3b is always a good starting point.

[dense hound]

what is a blue?

i havent seen any blues

[lyric prism]

blue cores are armor cores. what level are you?

[dense hound]

ah well i did say i like having plenty of skill teir, like 6, so the most armor cores i can have are like two at a time, guess you didnt get the hint

[acoustic coral]

lmao, then you don't like shotguns - you like skill builds

[lyric prism]

not on these headcold drugs no.

and you said skill tier.

if you want skill builds - drone/turret skill build. in the spreadsheet.

[dense hound]

and was told that drone and turret builds shred, which ive already said i dont want a build that shreds

i use skill teir for healing

[acoustic coral]

What do you want then? To suffer?

[lyric prism]

so you don't want to do more than normal? do you want to set things on fire and watch them scream then?

fire EP build. spreadsheet.

[dense hound]

literally said no

can no one understand what i want?

[lyric prism]

yea you want to be an unstoppable unkilling wall.

[dense hound]

i also said no

its like im talking to a brick wall here

[lyric prism]

no you are the brick wall and dancing around something you can't have unless you don't have anything but wrong stat gear on.

run heartbreakers, roll it all yellow. grab a shotgun, have fun.

[acoustic coral]

You don't use skill tiers to heal solo, that's group play.
Solo you use skill tiers to kill with - hive, fire, droner, mortar, turret

You could run something cursed like heartbreaker or striker with yellow cores, memento and an artificer hive

[lyric prism]

or run backfire.

that will work perfectly.

[gusty ravine]

@acoustic coral is that 3.8m or I'm I reading it wrong 🤣

[acoustic coral]

With regards to this?

[gusty ravine]

Ye

Sorry I'm number dyslexic so numbers like that mess with my brain 🤣

[acoustic coral]

Nah, you just multiply them like that to see what "gives the highest number"

3.8K not M

[gusty ravine]

Oh that's shit 😦

See people get millions

[acoustic coral]

It's not that damage you do

[gusty ravine]

Oh

[acoustic coral]

The only thing you use that calculation to is to see if swapping something around to CHC is worth it - in this case, it's not

[onyx sage]

yeah it's just crit comparisons between builds, if one number is higher than the other then that crit ratio is better

[gusty ravine]

So I didn't need to change anything

[onyx sage]

yeah, but still not perfect

[gusty ravine]

Oh 🤣 could of said that sooner

So how do I know if I'm getting them juicy crits

[onyx sage]

when they die fast

[gusty ravine]

But I still struggle though so idk if it's just how I play or I'm just bad 🤣🤣

[onyx sage]

which probably won't happen because your build is a hybrid between armor and damage, not hyperfocusing on damage

[acoustic coral]

heartbreaker

[dense hound]

well i just happen to get hit hard alot and need faster and more mobile healing than a medic pack can provide

[acoustic coral]

But.... kill or be killed.

[onyx sage]

the truth in this game is enemies deal a lot more damage than you can heal through

[lyric prism]

then run one piece of Palisade gear and Gunner spec and have 20% armor on kill.

there you go, mobile healing.

[onyx sage]

so literally kill or be killed

[acoustic coral]

He still needs to kill them - which he doesn't, because he doesn't want to shred.

[dense hound]

the issue is, killing fast enough for it to be all that effective

[gusty ravine]

Like I switched out my chance on my chest and now I have 104.6% Crit hit dmg

[acoustic coral]

I'm gonna let you take this moonmoon, otherwise I'm gonna get banned with the mood I'm in

[lyric prism]

OK then show us your gear. If you are in game show us a picture of your inventory screen when it first comes up so we can see what you are wearing.

[lyric prism]

did someone switch out your ND cores to wep handling? sry hugs

[onyx sage]

you have to think of it this way, if you have high crit dmg but low crit chance, you get to hit high numbers once in a blue moon

[gusty ravine]

Well sheet

[lyric prism]

wow.

[acoustic coral]

Wait what?

[gusty ravine]

Hence why I'm trying to find the soft spot bug I'm confused with all this 🤣🤣

[onyx sage]

just keep it as is

[gusty ravine]

@onyx sage I wanna learn hence why I want to play around with it

[onyx sage]

do what cmdrudolph does earlier and multiply crit chance with crit dmg

you get a number

if you change crit around but you get a higher number, that's generally better

i didn't want to make it complicated

[lyric prism]

the subgun is the not greatest but you do have the games greatest shotgun. the problem is you are setup for over healing so much with raw yellow cores you have but one red core to kill with.

[gusty ravine]

So I need more chance then dmg

[onyx sage]

no, you need a balance

[gusty ravine]

Ah

So what a good balance though

Like % wise

[acoustic coral]

You do the math I showed you - that's all.

[lyric prism]

also you are wearing a set that favors picking up and dropping of the deployable skill.

[dense hound]

well im not sure what to get, i was told this was better than the grudge, which i was also told the grudge was better than the weapon i had before that

[gusty ravine]

The 48% hit chance is higher value but I will get it every so often

Looking at them numbers

[lyric prism]

the grudge favors a red core dps setup, yes but its way better than a P90.

unless the stats are horribad.

switch out the 3 hard-wired for 3 pieces of Heartbreaker, start there. Heartbreaker - HB - favors the more you shoot something the more bonus armor you will get and that stacking bonus armor also gives you dps.

[gusty ravine]

I rather have 4.5k then 3.8k

[dense hound]

uh how do i get that?

[lyric prism]

I would suggest swapping out the subguns for an assault rifle. Check the vendors at the base and the theatre/campus/NYC. find an Assault rifle. report back.

[acoustic coral]

I'll give you an example (this is godrolled)
My current setup: 52 x 173 = 8.996
If I swapped a 12% CHD mod (currently equipped) to a 6% CHC mod: 58 x 161 = 9.338 (aka technically better, but you have to remember I'm wearing Coyote's mask, that buffs my crit)

[gusty ravine]

Here I will just send a pic of my stats will that help u a lot?

[acoustic coral]

BUT WE ALREADY DID THE MATH

[acoustic coral]

HERE IS MATH

[lyric prism]

Bring up the main map, hit R, see what area has targeted loot for what you are looking for. Our normal anwer is Countdown on challenging which is an 8man guided PVE thing and lots of loot but I'm not sure you will go.

[gusty ravine]

This is hurting my head

[acoustic coral]

I'm gonna hurt your head :madge:

[gusty ravine]

Hey I'm new to all this not my fault I don't understand we have to start somewhere

Ofc ur gonna get people like me who have no clue what all these numbers mean

I just watch the video and hope it works to an extent and off I go and if I have a problem I come here to learn more

[acoustic coral]

It's like, we cannot explain it better.
You currently have 48% CHC × 95,6% CHD = 4.588,8 (good)
You changed it to 53,1% CHC × 72,8% CHD = 3.865,68 (worse)

[gusty ravine]

Ah

Why not say that

[acoustic coral]

We did. Many, many times.

Higher number better

[gusty ravine]

But when I said higher number the better u went no??

[lyric prism]

this is a game of math, 90% we know the numbers of. damage does dead, how the game works.

well, its not EVE but enough math.

[acoustic coral]

I did say "moonmoon you better take this", but we told you (me and binoc) around 5 times.

[lyric prism]

my brain went splat. I just talked to random people.

[ancient dune]

It's about 12% better which is a significant enough margin that you'd rather take the better average damage over higher consistency 👍

[gusty ravine]

So how do I work it out just times them together or is there a converter

[lyric prism]

I'm going to bed.

CmdRedNose is your pilot.

[ancient dune]

If the only difference is crit, whichever is higher when you times them together will be better

[acoustic coral]

I'm coming with you AND WE BETTER CUDDLE 😠

[gusty ravine]

Cause when I did it on calculator I got 0.4.588,8

[ancient dune]

It's not technically correct for the proportion but when you simplify the formula it's enough to tell you which will be higher

The correct formula is CHC + (1 - CHC) * (1 + CHD)

[gusty ravine]

Please don't hurt my head any more I already annoyed them for not understanding

[acoustic coral]

48 × 95,6

type that in please

[ancient dune]

Ye so you can boil the correct formula down and get a very simplified one for comparisons

[gusty ravine]

Ah

@ancient dune dms

[magic pilot]

170% lmg dmg

[gusty ravine]

@acoustic coral sorry for annoying u but u helped me learn something I didn't know thank u I can see the difference in my build now ^_^

[acoustic coral]

All good, I did warn I was moody aahaha :3

[gusty ravine]

I still die though lmao but hey I got futher then before that's probably cause I suck

[acoustic coral]

It's tough to fix a skill issue with gear. Not impossible (joking, maybe you just need to get comfy with how the gear set plays out - have you seen the evernote about heartbreaker?)

[gusty ravine]

Wdym

[acoustic coral]

The build sheets pinned in this channel

The evernote

[gusty ravine]

All I know is u shoot ur shotgun to get ur stacks up then u beam with an ar

[magic pilot]

Should I run flatline?

[onyx sage]

if you can why not

high end probably has a surplus of crit

[gentle lichen]

Perfect? Assuming chc on lmg yeah

[magic pilot]

Yes and yes

All chc/chd. Farming for chest to run coyotes when solo

[magic pilot]

I definitely could crit wise

[magic pilot]

With flaltline I still have 50.3/155.5 (unoptimized)

[lime quarry]

hey guys, whjat is the best Status effect build

[fervent cipher]

whar is consider the best sniper in the game now?

[wise swallow]

mantis, M700

[woeful tendon]

So you’re telling me after 5 years. All I had to do was multiply chance by damage and whichever way was more.. was the better dps?

[wise swallow]

yes and no

its the better option from a crit stand point

its the better crit set up not the better set up overall

[rich lotus]

Hey guys what is considered the best AR in the game now?

For pvp

[wise swallow]

Eagle bearer, f2000, big horn

[woeful tendon]

If you can hit headshots the bighorn. If not eagle bearer or shield splinterer

[silent storm]

Does 3 Hard Wired and 4 Future Initiative make good healing builds?

[rich cosmos]

Just make a future initiative build

[spark lichen]

Why does my strikers w st elmos not hitting like other peoples? Im missing not even 8% crit hit chance so im not sure whats wrong with it

[wise swallow]

what are the current stats, what are you hitting for

is it stacked is another question

[woeful tendon]

Expertise?

[rich cosmos]

1. Expertise
2. They probably have different stats/builds than you

[spark lichen]

Expertise is prolly the issue

But like my expertise level is moving so slow

[silent storm]

Can skills crit? I haven't noticed my turret ever critting. ANd if they do crit does gearr CHD affect them?

[woeful tendon]

no skills cant crit.

[silent storm]

That's what I thought but I haven't played in a few years so just cleaning out my closet to make room for new junk

[tulip charm]

I’d say it’s more on the build rather than expertise.

[valid spade]

i started playing back in december but im new to end game, any advice on how I can make this build better?

[solar sable]

I'd remove blue and yellow attributes then replace with red ones, use a shotty instead of a MMR, and make a striker/dps build

[muted hare]

What’s a good talent to have on the Mop

[solar sable]

You can make a tanky-dps striker with St Elmo's if you want, I'd use 3b and 3r

[shy willow]

Do you own warlords of New York

[valid spade]

yeah

[surreal depot]

Complete it

[shy willow]

^

[rich lotus]

I like to use preservation for even more healing on kills

Good for pvp going against servers

[fresh grove]

Complete warlords and replace gear pieces with strikers and reroll the st.elmos to dttoc

[wheat anchor]

Wait hold a minute

If this guys never gone through wony hows he got an elmos

Surely it doesn't just get added to the loot pool if you own the dlc

[modern heron]

What ar works well with true patriots set?

[shy willow]

I've heard of base game players getting Elmo's

[wheat anchor]

Same, but I'd assume thats once they've reached level 40 once

[modern heron]

I got the st elmos in a friends world who was level 30

[wheat anchor]

Ik for a fact you cant reconfig an elmos to wt5

Probably for balance purposes

[acoustic coral]

PvE, Striker, full red everything god rolled = expertise 25 gives you approx 8% overall damage because of diminishing returns on weapon damage

[wheat anchor]

@spark lichen Does your Elmos have Damage to Targets Out of Cover

[shy willow]

Yeah expertise really doesn't matter that much

It's pretty useful for HH though

[wheat anchor]

DTTOC makes all the difference

So does the gear

Like, I've got a build composed of ninjabike, 2pc brazos, 3pc true patriot, does about 200k damage

Then again its like a tank build so eh

[solar sable]

should I buy and optimise it for my Hotshot build?

[acoustic coral]

That's not too bad tbh

Materials wise. It's probably better than the SR-1 I have in my bank ahaha, not getting lucky with high rolls there

[shy willow]

Nah get yourself a determined SR1 instead

[solar sable]

I'll do that tomorrow then

[acoustic coral]

Oooohh, I didn't see that it was the designated hitter

[wheat anchor]

SR-1 is actually a nice sniper

Barely use it, but its actually nice in the 1-30 and 31-40 experience

[sterile sequoia]

is that pinned Reddit compendium of builds still viable to this day?

[hexed steppe]

depends if it has been updated or not. the spreadsheet pinned in this channel is up to date for the current season

[gusty ravine]

Hey guys I'm looking for a new build I keep seeing these builds with the chem luncher any recommendations

[rich lotus]

More specific pls

[gusty ravine]

Ehmm it shoots foam and kills them I think

[acoustic coral]

Check the build guide my friend

Especially the yellow builds

[gentle lichen]

cc eclipse

Paired with creeping death

[dense cloak]

Need help guys, I want to confirm if "Damage to Armor" and "Damage to Target out of Cover" also apply to skill?
Like Turrret and Drone

[hexed steppe]

Not turret drone.
Dta affects fire/explosive/ oxi skills, dttooc affect oxi

[brisk barn]

Could be regulus headshot build with the DCH

Lots of people run foam with that

[dense cloak]

Okay, thanks mate

[gusty ravine]

What's dch

[brisk barn]

Dodge City Holster

[gusty ravine]

What do I need for the build?

[brisk barn]

Regulus, Dodge City Holster, everything else is headshot damage related, most people use Glass cannon but you can also use chain killer for increased uptime

High skill build that requires consistent headshots

[gusty ravine]

Oh

I'm very bad at aiming 9/10 times lol

[brisk barn]

Probably not a build for you then 😂

[gusty ravine]

I have my days where I'm good at aiming 1 day then next I'm not rofl

[acoustic coral]

Oxidizer Skill Build
Eclipse Protocol

They're both in the build sheets btw

[limpid pelican]

ET Foam home

[gusty ravine]

Was looking at them lol

So I'm looking at the striker builds and stuff I'm trying to figure out what m4 that gun is so I can farm for it on the first striker photo

[lyric prism]

somehow my Banshee is now vinvictive and not strained.

[shy willow]

Common bug rn

[lyric prism]

yup

I blame Bluescreen builds

[gusty ravine]

Anyone know the exotic name for that m4

[lyric prism]

St. Elmo's Engine

the 'this is the gun you use now' gun

[gusty ravine]

Where can I farm it?

[lyric prism]

Countdown challenging, AR loot selection. Any AR loot targeted map selected areas

and gl.

[gusty ravine]

Oh I'll just do summit like 90 different times lol

Or do I need countdown M

[lyric prism]

or that with loot selected

no, summit, countdown, whatever. Coutdown is just easier for targeting lookt.

[gusty ravine]

Time to farm count down for like 24 hrs 🤣

[lyric prism]

if you don't select target loot types, probably

[gusty ravine]

Didn't get it my first run

Just named bloody guns 🤣

[hazy steeple]

Make sure you buy an exotic cache every 2-3 runs from the Countdown Vendor, gives you a little bonus chance and free exotic components if you don't get the thing you want.

[gusty ravine]

Pretty sure I had it once then I think I accidently deleted it

[hazy steeple]

It's always worth locking your stuff you wanna keep with a "favourite" mark.

[gusty ravine]

I must of accidentally did it

[acoustic coral]

Lincoln Memorial if TL matches > CP4 with as many directives as you can muster (it's better to do Heroic 0D than Challenging 5D) if TL matches > Countdown Heroic if consistent for you, Challenging if not.

[gusty ravine]

What does tl mean lol

[acoustic coral]

Targeted Loot
D in 0D/5D means directives

[gusty ravine]

Ah ok

[tulip charm]

Has anyone gun got their talent changed?

My strained f2k got stabilize

[vestal ibex]

I hear it's affecting non recal talents. So if you got the desired talent and rolled DTTOOC then you might have a different talent show up.

[wheat anchor]

You're shitting me

Guess Imma go through my entire inv now

[tulip charm]

Another day another bug

[shy willow]

project dissolve phase 2

what are some of the low profile, sleeker backpacks

[tulip charm]

hana and wyvern

[hexed steppe]

murakami has a pretty good transmog

[tulip charm]

My main backpack is a 5.11 backpack

[shy willow]

oooo

[vestal ibex]

2/3 what a nub

[shy willow]

just tryna find something that won't look bulky asf on kajikas outfit

[tawdry flare]

New name

[hexed steppe]

i have all

[rocky rain]

What’s the best way to get Field Recon data to optimize gear? I need a million..

Unfortunately no BP for it yet

[acoustic coral]

Summit Floor 10 farming or CP4 5 directives

[wheat anchor]

Just seen a high shd player running a strikers build with 2 pc Belstone, thats interesting

Perfect Bloodsucker and Obliterate

[wheat anchor]

Just regular field recon? If you're a high enough shd level play though wony on a new character

Uncontested levels of materials

[plush wyvern]

Hi there new player here just got the dlc to lvl 30

Do I spend my specialization points on those 3 starter spec or wait for the other ones to unlock

[solar sable]

I recommend going for Gunner, Technician or Sharpshooter depending on what build you want to run/make

[plush wyvern]

But the gunner is locked , how can I unlock that

[hybrid ravine]

there should be a set of challenges for you to do to be able to unlock the gunner specialization or you can directly buy them on the store

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, esc>projects>gunner(or whatever spec) there are some ways to make the challenges easier so just ask if you get stuck on one.

[hybrid ravine]

some of the challenges itself isn't directly hard but its take a bit to complete

[magic pilot]

Anyone gotten an oúρoβóρoς yet?

[hybrid ravine]

anw im thinking of doing a backfire build, my understanding is that it needs hazard protection to stop the bleeding effect? but is there any brand sets that works well with backfire?

[magic pilot]

2 ceska

1 Yaahl

[onyx sage]

owobowos

[vestal ibex]

Bro after how many deconstructions do you gain the deconstructor title?

[magic pilot]

It's hard to say, I've deconstructed so many chameleons. I still see them all in my dreams

And my 1 expertise 15 st Elmo

[onyx sage]

💀

[hybrid ravine]

lmao

[vestal ibex]

I was talking to Mo the other day about how many possible ouros we've left behind in the wright fight doing speeds.... I'm betting as a group like 5-10 in total.

[solar sable]

I rerolled it 6 times and I'm not risking RNGesus to slap me in the face with lower stats.

[magic pilot]

One optimization off max I wouldn't reroll either lol

[magic pilot]

Man that probably hurts some peoples souls lol

Guess that's why you are souless

[vestal ibex]

I mean I've probably deconstructed like 20-30 of them just myself.

[hybrid ravine]

wow

[magic pilot]

W

[vestal ibex]

feelsgoodman

[flint wave]

the betrayal

[vestal ibex]

Eh I've deconstructed tons of EB and Rav too from speed running those too. Just kinda happens after you near 1k runs for things.

[flint wave]

St elmo deconner and ouro deconner in the same place

[onyx sage]

is that why you changed your name back

[flint wave]

I got deconstructed

marked as junk

[magic pilot]

How's my build?

[lime quarry]

Hey everyone

What is the best way to build a status effect build

Nooob alert^

[tulip charm]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=8f1fc875-172a-9331-f92e-fe314f1772f5&noteKey=dc56508e8364ba0de3919f877c42afe8&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F8f1fc875-172a-9331-f92e-fe314f1772f5%2Fdc56508e8364ba0de3919f877c42afe8&title=Eclipse%2BProtocol%2B%2528Y5%2BS2%2529

[magic pilot]

Wow my build got deleted

[hazy steeple]

russian link, that auto-mod is a tricky one.

[magic pilot]

Rip

[hazy steeple]

Okay let's see if I did this right

hey there we go.
gotta remember, square first, round 2nd, no spaces.

[magic pilot]

Yup that's it

[sudden fog]

Hmmmm

[tulip charm]

Hmmmm

[solar sable]

Hmmmm

[acoustic coral]

Headhunter

[dull ermine]

Is the mp5 worth using? I’ve had mine for a while but it feels really weak

[onyx sage]

headhunter

[magic pilot]

It's weak