td2-build-advice

[hexed steppe]

Probably fast hands/strained . Personally I use lefty for utility to proc sledge on heavy stuff

[lime quarry]

Oh ok I’m way off

[hexed steppe]

As a stack weapon it's pretty flexible what you put on it

[lime quarry]

I was using replacement

[glossy scarab]

i think sometimes when i use that setup the overcharge doesnt proc until an extra kill. so if you get a kill and expect OC and it doesnt happen just get another kill and it should work

[lime quarry]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the gun smg Backfire

Exotic

[glossy scarab]

pretty much its a little too impractical to use as anything but a just for fun, 'lets find out what this does' kinda build

[lime quarry]

Figured

Time to get it haha

[glossy scarab]

oh yea gotta have one lol

although with the changes to status effects its slightly less bad than it was because you can somewhat decrease the duration or damage of bleed by not moving or some other mechanic

[lyric prism]

"incoming repairs" does that count your incoming or has to be external?

I think its any skill heal from reading but ?

[upper patrol]

freedom

Now time to build around it lol

Thje one in the sheets is still up to date?

[onyx sage]

yes

[upper patrol]

is HSD a attribute on it?

Trying to roll it but no luck in 20 tries

nvm got it

[ancient dune]

It is but you want dttooc or dta

[upper patrol]

hm i was going to follow the sheet

[ancient dune]

Ah originally it could only roll with hsd up until the most recent update

Now the optimal roll would be dttooc for blb dcgh one shot builds and dta for headhunter builds

[upper patrol]

blb dcgh? pardon my dumbassery

[urban latch]

Id do Dtooc reguardless

[ancient dune]

Mm I think dta lowers the threshold a pretty decent amount if you're looking to oneshot on legendary compared to ooc

Or for 4p heroic even

Ooc is definitely universally usable though

[upper patrol]

not bad

What is the best build for farming open world events with this gun?

before i was using this

[ancient dune]

Probably headhunter + hunters fury

Replace the hotshot with headhunter and you're good

With hunters fury I mean

Brain lag

You can also run a HF backpack with dodge city holster and it's also good

[onyx sage]

dttooc is the play on reg

[upper patrol]

i am almost finishing the project for it

[ancient dune]

Alternatively you can run the high end variant which is punch drunk, chainkiller, the gift/memento, claws out/dcgh, contractors, foxs

[ancient dune]

But my peak damage 😭

[upper patrol]

just missing this one

[upper patrol]

In what would that be better than Hunters fury?

[ancient dune]

I think it's roughly the same

HF definitely starts doing more damage once the amp on kill starts kicking in though

[upper patrol]

i see, what would the "safest" to grind world events?

with directives

[upper patrol]

Like this?

[urban latch]

yep

[ancient dune]

👍 throw in an M870 too and go to town

[upper patrol]

Now i need to actually learn to HS mobs 😄

[ancient dune]

if you want to go down the rabbit hole a d&h chest piece with headhunter would be best in slot

[lime quarry]

Is there anyway to see what the best sticker build would be from top to bottom

Striker^

[upper patrol]

Let me try the waters first ahah

What are the necessary numbers on the first shot?

[vestal ibex]

Without DCH you'll see like 3-4 mil. I'd suggest starting on challenging if you wanna get a easy feel.

[upper patrol]

not doing that bad honestly

but yeah i struggle a bit in fights when surrounded, still missing shotty

Also not maxed on SHD, missing 20% HS and like 5% weap dmg

[vestal ibex]

Lol you made it sound like you'd be worse off. Honestly the play style is easy imo, get in close for hf and click heads, spawn knowledge is huge as well as positioning. Shotgun is for deleting helmets and named enemies btw, idk you'll hit like 50+ mil or something on a solid hit.

[upper patrol]

well i still die like 1 time or 2 per CP sometimes, but still getting the hang of it.

Should i go damage out of cover in something else instead of HSD?

[vestal ibex]

DTTOOC where? I mean there are two versions of the build. HE and HF. There is actually a lot of preference in the build if you want it. Spec, skills. Memento, DCH, determined sniper, bunch of things you can play with.

[upper patrol]

In this case shotgun

i am currently using this, feel a bit safer with the CC

I still don't have the holster as well, idk where to get the final crafting mats... something something black tusks

[vestal ibex]

It is a higher level of skill type of build. Most who are good with it have put tens or hundreds of hours in on it. Give it time hopefully you'll find a balance you like.

[upper patrol]

fair

time to zzz, tomorrow will be back with more questions probably

[fleet sierra]

Sorry can you elaborate on these short forms:
HE, HF, DCH?

I'd love to play sniper in high level group content (pve, maybe DZ) and playing around Determined just seems to lower the possible damage numbers with headshots being in the lower 20 mil at around 320% Headshot damage on a 'The White Death'. So far I know some other Snipers doing better DPS wise and I heard of 60+ mil Headshots even though I'm certain those are crits.

Edit:

NVM scrolled a bit up and saw advice on the HF Set. Will try that out and see where it gets me. Thx folks.

[solar sable]

HF stands for Hunters Fury, the other one's I have no idea.

[lyric prism]

HE is High End = yellow brand sets. DCH I think is Determined (the gun talent) Chainkiller (the named chest piece)

[fleet sierra]

It's Dodge City Holster btw, just found that out by random

[rich lotus]

Is there a max cap on PFE?

[onyx sage]

80%

[rich lotus]

@real marsh what kind of regen build are you looking for?

[tawdry flare]

Btw what does ZA means I have seen lot of player with that

[real marsh]

basically one that get me armor when i kill and gives me the blue overshield?

[real marsh]

for me it means South Africa

like a country code

[tawdry flare]

Armour on kill there are only 3 sources for that
->Mods
-> gunner spec +10% on kill
-> gearset / brandset bonus

[rich lotus]

What's a blue overshield

[tawdry flare]

I think he meant overcharged shield

[real marsh]

yes i am using 4 piece hunters fury and some other set for an extra 10% armor on kill

[real marsh]

this one

sorry

[tawdry flare]

For that you need specific talents and setups

[real marsh]

lay it on me

[rich lotus]

Yeah idk if it will work with hunters

[tawdry flare]

Like energize bagpack talent acostas bag btsu gloves

[rich lotus]

And depending on shield you'll need 6 pieces of armor/skill

[real marsh]

ahhhhh i see

[rich lotus]

Which then will drastically lower your armor on kill value

[real marsh]

yeah because my build is basical dps with a tiny bit of regen

but i see other people melt npcs and they get tons of regen and overcharged shields

[rich lotus]

Do you have a link to a youtube or something that you saw?

Or maybe a screenshot of their build

[real marsh]

i just search up builds to try and then yeah, but i do have a screenshot of a guy i was jamming with that hd a completely different build and he had overcharged shields

i will send it in abit, its on my phone

[rich lotus]

You can send it here and we'll pinpoint what it is

[real marsh]

These are the two guys I saw

[wheat anchor]

Interesting strikers combination

Guess its just more tanky

[real marsh]

Don't what any of it means but I will be trying to cop it😂

[rich lotus]

Was he in pvp by any chance

Or dz

[rich lotus]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwBgtArG4Ixs0wysAnAJirAHKgzFouMdAFwSGzxJ6yVK4FjqIwDsInVxp2zk-BADY47LuCHwMUGI3okeMPAO6sU0opoVl0qFUk3IpmLaZ679cEkbQnt9ssBYprePkslK2YTzJYxSGBYEPFEWcDxJNj0YOmZRQKEUMGUHWKQ-JFI2UmA4Nj5sZWiwQoEAvGEENjghPTYAOhkJJCA

This is my best guess on the first build

Could be that he's running some PTE too but idk, can't really tell much

[rich lotus]

Not even I think its just a lot more armor gain but you can still get melted

[wheat anchor]

Fair

Purely depends on those memento buffs

[rich lotus]

First one doesnt even use memento

[real marsh]

Normal open world, he was helping me clear control points on challenging and melted every one and I got damage boost I think like 20% from he's sniper

[rich lotus]

Oh on challenging it should be ez for them with optimized build

[real marsh]

He was using a sniper during us playing, that was before

[real marsh]

Yeah I guess so

[rich lotus]

Prob the meta hotshot chainkiller

[real marsh]

Thank you so much for helping!!!

I shall try it out, to be fair my shed level is 171 theirs was like 5k so that could also be the difference

[rich lotus]

I'll send the second in a bit

[real marsh]

how did you get all of this

[rich lotus]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwDgtMYAxgjB04FYwDZG0jbjsC4AWdHeGWWAZmV0SzgHYomzc8KCEZJIRJZHmaDHRyi84OiIbMYxGqNZEwBLpwwCm1OQrHAAnGtIYU2+fLzAYHWFHiYIMCunoGb1YHYsHrtuN0fOrmQoHnAWBFSwKDZGCnYoZHiobAb0HLxgICwo0Xj2OjSwQA

Second one

[rich lotus]

What do you mean?

[real marsh]

like how do you get their exact builds? from just a picture

[rich lotus]

Knowledge of the game and intuition

Judging by what you said too

[real marsh]

ahhhh i see, you really helped me out thank you so much

[rich lotus]

No worries

[rich lotus]

Keep in mind that, the site I sent is a bit inaccurate atm since they haven't updated it to the latest season yet so some numbers might be off a little

[dull ermine]

Is it worth trading uzina for belstone on a haz pro armor regen build?

I’m thinking increasing the total armor would increase the base armor regen % stats

[hexed steppe]

Bellstone probably worth more tbh.
Bellstone will gain more armor over time compared to a static uzina, it just wont be upfront.

[dull ermine]

Cool I was thinking to use the setup backpack but I don’t think it’s worth it when the healer might have it and I can run protector

Also is there diminishing returns on PFE? I’m running 2 piece Golan instead of pointman, yaahl and improvised

[clever merlin]

Isn't pfe additive?

You can reach close to 100% right

[dull ermine]

I saw yesterday someone say there’s a cap

[shy willow]

Capped at 80 percent iirc

[silver lark]

would a habsburd guard headhunter chest be better than the named Chainkiller?

[carmine compass]

You'd want 2p Habsburg, ideally

[silver lark]

ah forgot to mention, assume ninjabike

[carmine compass]

In that case, yeah

[silver lark]

HG is such a pain to farm

[hexed steppe]

Ninja headhunter will net you at most 21-22mil on the top end and hurt your first shot significantly. Making it harder to get your chain started.

Habs offers highest damage in a 3 hotshot, 2 habs, 1 airaldi headhunter/vigilance setup. North of 30mil on the top end.

Personally I use 4hot, chainkiller, airaldi vig and see right about 30mil on m700 tac before any team buffs

[silver lark]

hmm my old setup was a 3hot, chainkiller, airaldi mask, ninjabike which hits for about 26m with a model 700; closer to 29m with airaldi vigilance

currently trying to optimize an experimental build that's 2hot, ninjabike, chainkiller, picaros, punch drunk, hits for 22m with an SR-1 while still being able to use liberty and a 10m hp bulwark

I would imagine a HG chest there would help a lot since Chainkiller's brand bonuses kinda suck

[hexed steppe]

Maybe with team buffs... vigilance is twd and not easily made up.

[silver lark]

I was testing solo in the shooting range

[hexed steppe]

I'll test it out when I'm home

[silver lark]

but the big point is that HG is objectively better than airaldis yeah?

I assume it's a newer brand, I took a long break and came back a week or two ago

[hexed steppe]

If you can unlock the marksman rifle damage, yes.
Headhunter scales with your weapon damage.

Ideally you would want both habs and airaldi mmr bonus

[silver lark]

gotcha, thanks for the buildcrafting ideas

[steel rampart]

What does more damage perfect spotter or a regular spotter on a weapon brand set such as sokolov or fenris?

20 amp vs 15 amp + 10 weapon damage

[versed summit]

AFAIK they're about the same until Fenris starts losing when adding expertise. That's for a red build though.

the problem is finding a red closer

[gentle lichen]

Conflict?

So 0 expertise

[versed summit]

how many blues?

[gentle lichen]

3

[steel rampart]

Why would Fenris lose when adding expertise?

If we’re only talking about damage

[versed summit]

weapon damage becomes oversaturated

[gentle lichen]

Diminishing returns on additive weapon damage

[versed summit]

Fenris would probably win out.

[steel rampart]

So oreo elmo and m870 all at expertise 20 would do more damage the perfect than on a sokolov fenris or badger?
But you’re saying the number of blue cores you’re using plays a role as well with diminishing returns? I can put it in a build calculator

[versed summit]

I'd recommend putting it into a calculator as general practice. If expertise is involved Perf. Spotter will win out.

if you're running 3 Blue cores you're losing 45 Weapon Damage, thats a significant amount that will lower the diminishing returns from Fenris.

[steel rampart]

Ok thanks for the help

[hexed steppe]

Afaik closer & setup blueprints still available from heroic controlpoints. Easier to craft for the red attribute rolls than to farm 😉

[versed summit]

true true

[brisk barn]

this is what I’m trying to make rn

100% stability

The Habsburg Chest is a unicorn

[acoustic coral]

Okay but fr, what is unicorn?

[hexed steppe]

Gear with off color rolls/right talent so you can roll core to what's need.
Habs is blue core, attributes more likely to follow main core.

Setup backpack is unicorn when you need all yellow attributes and main core.

Same with yellow grupo for explosive builds. Yellow contractors/foxs with skill damage.

Also 🦄

[acoustic coral]

Just wanted to be sure that it was a rarity thing.

[upper patrol]

the damn explosions are throwing my crosshair to the moon with regu 🥲

[gentle lichen]

That shouldn't happen

The camera will get you motion sickness yeah but the crosshair will be at its same location where you shot it

[upper patrol]

I mean the screenshake

not thje actualy crosshair

Do i need a handling % to properly use the regu? just curious

[brisk barn]

Setup at least always has opportunistic on it 😭

The Habsburg chest is looking for HH as well as HSD and WH

[brisk barn]

Nope, you just need to find the point where your screen is not shaking

Skill based weapon prefers stability but it’s not necessary

[drowsy island]

what's the go to high end ars now after the new season

[rich lotus]

Do you have a calc for that?

[versed summit]

I use iKia's calc spreadsheet. It's linked in the main spreadsheet.

[rich lotus]

Thanks

[shy willow]

FAMAS is still up there but the F2K is a new competitor

Anything you used before is still good though

[drowsy island]

is shield splinterer worth then? or will a reg f2000 still be comparablwe

[glossy scarab]

both are good

[hazy steeple]

IIRC the only time Optimist actually beats Strained/Fast Hands is the perfect version on the 'Splinter.
but only by single digit % anyway.

[brisk barn]

Shield splinterer is good yeah, a normal F2k is easier to get tho

[hazy steeple]

Well Cassie has a guaranteed one each week once you've opened the Hunter Cache, so 1 recal then some opti and you've got yourself something endgame-y.

[brisk barn]

Yep, I’m just saying it’s harder to get if you haven’t done the Hunters which can take a while to do if you’re waiting for night cycles

[hazy steeple]

Luckily you have an unlimited amount of time to get those and never have to actively farm for it outside of just walking somewhere in an hour or so.
The sheer amount of AR's there are and then you have to get one with innate dtooc so you can swap the Talent around and just ugh.

[upper patrol]

Divsion 2 definition of stability

[hazy steeple]

Are you confused about the statement?

[pastel pasture]

is this 30 mil on full stack HH? also whats the deal wiuth achileas pulse, most of the time it never selects the head as the point to "hit"

[hexed steppe]

yes full stacks, vig active

wood m700 probably hits a bit harder

[vestal ibex]

Ahhh achilleas pulse, where you are better off using a D50 flatline or regulus and DCH because it never goes to the head. Also this is how you see people hit almost 300 mil hits with little to no prep.

[pastel pasture]

yea, iv seen the youtubes of teh oneshot raid bosses, it was cool till I found out how much prep work went into it with the busy little bee combo. but yea achilleas sucks unless u magically get the head proc, made me wonder if we could add 2 skill cores to almost garentee a head shot proc or something.

other than using a teamate, who is running the new 6skill 6 red core build and ask politely to cahnge to achilleas pulse

I think if there was a way to add some skill tiers into the HH build we would be able to take chungas out

[vestal ibex]

I mean you mention adding skill cores to help and there is a build people use on the legendary DUA boss to one shot solo in random matchmaking.

[pastel pasture]

oh the strikers DCH regulus?

[vestal ibex]

Naw the DUA boss killer thing I'm referring to is different, but you probably could do a yellowish strikers on him it just comes down to how easy it is to do. Most things can work in tons of places it's just how easy is it to pull off.

[flint wave]

yellow strikers 🤢

[pastel pasture]

didnt u hear, its the new thing

Also I wanted to point out my tac50, not really scaling with HH? Is this a bug?

[vestal ibex]

Hey guys! I got a build for you today! It'll take longer to farm, use more materials, and overall do half the damge! Before that a word from todays sponsor!

[gentle lichen]

Raid Iron Horse Exotics!

[tawdry flare]

I wonder which tuber is that definitely not kvd

[limpid pelican]

theres a very adamant yellow striker healer that frequents xbox incursions

[shy willow]

What's the name

[limpid pelican]

ironically enough his gt is 'a team member' lol

[flint wave]

hopefully running a better weapon then capacitor

[limpid pelican]

cant remember. quite the experience to say the least

[lyric prism]

that doesn't sound good.

how the hell does yellow striker work? off heals?

[split lagoon]

Should I switch the attributes of Hunter's Fury to damage?

[lyric prism]

so, here is one: Dark Winter vs MP7, just to have a sub gun in your bags. with all stats being rolled equal?

[hexed steppe]

post build

[lyric prism]

I'm thinking dark winter.

[bright raptor]

once a Dark Winter simp, always a Dark Winter simp

[haughty wraith]

I like dark winter too. Seems it has higher apm than many SMG

Is there a way to work around the debuff from backfire? I just want to max the expertise of the gun ( not enough mats to donation) , the debuff is a bit annoying .

[lyric prism]

hazpro.

98% I think is needed.

[versed summit]

93.8 bleed res to be immune

[lyric prism]

that.

[haughty wraith]

That ‘s a petty high number, I am assuming with combine attribute hazpro and bleed rest mod?

[versed summit]

that's typically the best way to build for backfire.

[lyric prism]

so ok found the all yellow core striker w/ belstone and emp knees. idk, I thought I had off builds.

the use Elmo's.

I can see the use, ok fine, but without lol'ing at it wouldn't 3r/3b be better in the context with a healing seeker following you and a defender drone. just to spread out the need?

[lyric prism]

or is the whole point 'i made a youtube video'

[vestal ibex]

You make a build so dumb that you gotta send it to someone just so they can also suffer and lose brain cells. I just don't watch any div youtubers anymore.

[lyric prism]

yea. I like how they blast through a coupld of CP's and then get nearly hosed by an Outcast with a flamethrower.

[orchid geyser]

Hi guys can someone reccomend me... I have 2 gun lady death and chameleon.. Which one should i build ?

Currently i just finish my heartbreaker build and i want to try a smg build but idk which one is better entry lol

[modern heron]

Hello i have a question what exotic smg would go well with a memento and hunters build other than lady death?

[glossy scarab]

your only other options are ouroboros and chatterbox

unless you like backfire

[modern heron]

Kk ill keep my eye open for them doubt ill get 1 of them tho lol
Thx for the info

[glossy scarab]

yea ouroboros is only available by playing the paradise lost incursion

chatterbox is extremely easy to craft. just google a guide on getting chatterbox

[urban latch]

They feel like they need to come up with something "unique" but the problem with that in a game that's fundamentally math based is if it's really "unique" then it's "unique" for a good reason

[naive gate]

What builds are used in the incursion?

[magic pilot]

Fi healer and striker

@naive gate @modern heron you guys need a group to join up with?

[dreamy valve]

I copied JD glad’s backfire build and now I’m a lover of backfire

Max stack elmo can’t beat max stack backfire, strikers wise

[glossy scarab]

say what? by build works?

wtf

[dreamy valve]

I think I can reach over 2 mill per crit if someone uses FI

[glossy scarab]

yeah the dmg potential is pretty nuts

[magic pilot]

What's the build

[glossy scarab]

just a strikers hazpro and a couple bleed resist mods with 2 ceskas (at least one with hazpro rolled on it. both if you dont have enough bleed resist mods)

[ancient dune]

🤮 backfire

[glossy scarab]

sums it up

[magic pilot]

Yea I have that setup

I have a ceska obliterate chest with hazpro and a mask

[glossy scarab]

yep thats the best way to do it

[lyric prism]

striker chest or no?

[magic pilot]

Is it worth the dmg loss?

[magic pilot]

You could run that version

[ancient dune]

Not really but you get hazpro

[glossy scarab]

the chest makes it really hard to get any dmg out of unless you stack with an ACS

[ancient dune]

Nice if you don't want to get disrupted or something

[magic pilot]

It'd be fun to run an incursion with that

I'm planning a bullet king run rn

I'll have to do a backfire one, maybe do no hazpro and see if we can do it lol

[ancient dune]

If you have a healer you get a free 50%

Would make it slightly more bearable

[modern heron]

Im not gonna be on for much longer thx for the offer but maybe next time i need a break lol not got a single exotic yet nor the 1s i need lol

[magic pilot]

I was thinking that and having the healer run booster and reinforcer chem

Instead of the repair hive

[lyric prism]

every time I've done the incursion they split up, drop decoys and pray. the mortar usually wins.

[magic pilot]

I just did a run a few days ago with 2 clan members and it was their first clear

We did lovers in 1m 42s

[lyric prism]

one day I will get through that. I find being the healer to be more fun.

[naive gate]

I've never done it so I'm tryna get a build to join one

[magic pilot]

Healer is fun if you have people who can play dps well

[vestal ibex]

Oh just wait until you have to heal and your amazing at it, hive is down, perfect OC, sledge is up and you hit the next one a second after sledge runs out, dropping chems and already got the hive back out, everything is perfect and then you look up at the health bars and no damage is being done. You sit and wonder wtf is life.

[lyric prism]

that has been my issue in pugging the incursion. glass cannon striker is whatever but getting them to stay in somewhat range is usually the problem. Black Tusk healboxes have got them conditioned to not be a part of that heal zone.

[magic pilot]

Exactly🤣

[lyric prism]

its ok, my soul has shriveled enough to not notice.

[magic pilot]

Don't run glass on striker lol

[lyric prism]

yea good luck with that.

'my dps is my shield'

[magic pilot]

Normally that thought process is fine

[lyric prism]

tell that to the Cleaners burning you alive.

[magic pilot]

But with striker glass/obliterate do the same dmg

[lyric prism]

yes.

[magic pilot]

Striker chest for boss burns anyway

[lyric prism]

don't tell that to the internet, they will crucify you in their DZ LOCK DOWN WITH HARRIS WALKER video.

[magic pilot]

Souless and Raucey were running striker chest on tanker

Mad lads

[magic pilot]

Walker and Harris is so overrated imo

Chainkiller is good

That's about it lol

[lyric prism]

Soulless linked me one of their duo incursion runs. I can but watch in less than a god level life.

[flint wave]

bruh it's easy to run striker chest there

[magic pilot]

I usually don't but last run I did

[vestal ibex]

Stiker chest from tanker till end. Ez

[flint wave]

Don't need countdown level heroic elites to charge striker chest up reliably

[magic pilot]

Striker chest frees up a high end slot so I can run memento

[vestal ibex]

This fugin guy

[flint wave]

why memento over ninjabag?

[magic pilot]

https://youtu.be/zEX3JaRyDF4?si=acHjZrFJzfdIZSG4

[onyx sage]

i run headhunter in tanker

[magic pilot]

Panda just sent me this again lmao

[onyx sage]

because i can

[magic pilot]

I told him to hit the valve💀

[flint wave]

slight miss

[vestal ibex]

Sniper HH yeah?

[onyx sage]

HHF 💀

[flint wave]

🤮

encounters rusher

[onyx sage]

with m700 i can still crack chunga helmet from afar actually

[vestal ibex]

You can't chain that unless M870 yeah?

[onyx sage]

regulus can still chain, just needs to stack some HF stacks

[magic pilot]

Little off

[vestal ibex]

Sounds like you miss a buff it's your ticket to the struggle bus.

[onyx sage]

indeed

[magic pilot]

High risk high reward

You are using dodge and chain?

[onyx sage]

no, d&h vigi and chain

[magic pilot]

Ah

[vestal ibex]

I mean I'll say it, HHF in tanker is a ticket to not having fun.

[onyx sage]

most of the time i camp on right side and the 2 drones don't spawn together, so most of the time i can only one-shot one, if i have vigi it makes it easier to kill the other with no hh

i like hh too much

[flint wave]

should hotswap to glass cannon to kill the drones

[urban latch]

Your group is still running 4 striker on tanker right?

[vestal ibex]

Yurp, all chest with a mix of ceska/grupo/coyotes/foxes I think.

[upper patrol]

Still rolling the HF with vigilance and perfect HH, got 726k armor, am i suposed to get 2 shotted on Heroic?

[vestal ibex]

Nothing in the HHF build makes you a tank aside of hiding be hind a door, HF will give survivability but you've gotta hit heads to get your HOK and AOK. You have to be able to click heads.

[upper patrol]

Struggling to get control points, everything is purple or yellow which takes me 3-5 shots or something like that

IN that time frame i start getting shreded by 5 more guys on the CP xD

[vestal ibex]

It is a skill based build, I'm not gonna suggest you play it if you don't have fun tho, I just personally have a ton of fun playing it myself.

[upper patrol]

i get it, and i do have fun when i can actually start it going but idk how to deal with stuff yet, was just checking if it was normal

Do you do CPs with it? If so what is the general strat with this build?

[onyx sage]

it's normal, you gotta train reflexes a lot. to move around you have to do c2c to avoid damage mostly, then rush spawn doors and camp there. once you kill enough mobs you just spawn kill the next waves

[flint wave]

Run memento if ur soloing. Vigilance is unnecessary

I bet you can get away with an extra blue or two aswell

[hexed steppe]

You can try starting your chain with an mmr then pull your car door once you have a stack.

[hexed steppe]

Yeah memento is nice

[modern heron]

If u can get it lol

[flint wave]

luck issue

[hexed steppe]

Not a problem

[modern heron]

Definitely is for me

[upper patrol]

will give it a try, like this?

[hexed steppe]

I've deleted a lot of em. Target loot backpacks. CD and buy exo caches as well

[hexed steppe]

I been using this.
I have the same as you posted as well.

[magic pilot]

I like using dodge city solo

Easy start to HH stacks

[hexed steppe]

Missing a mod on your door tho

[upper patrol]

Missing the last project, can't seem to spawn those guys

[magic pilot]

That sucks

[upper patrol]

Don't have lol

[hexed steppe]

Fair. Might be able to craft one. Crappy mod is better than no mod

[upper patrol]

Missing one of those. what is your holster?

[hexed steppe]

Yellow picaros. Extra skilltier for shield/artificer while still keeping a red core

Door is just under 10mil before memento stacks that way. Artificer @ 48% skill repair. They jump to 12mil/58% repair with full stacks

The habs will help your first shot tho if you keep it. Shield and repair probably strong enough

[upper patrol]

habs?

oh nevermind

[hexed steppe]

Your holster

[upper patrol]

y understood a bit late

[vestal ibex]

I sent someone gameplay of me doing regulus and this was their response.

I tend to play HHF really aggressively tho.

[upper patrol]

plug me that gameplay 😄

[tulip charm]

You use firewall with your hhf?

[vestal ibex]

I run tech/artificer.

[vestal ibex]

DM sent. It's not the best gameplay as it's just an example tho.

[magic pilot]

Almost wiped twice and still cleared the entire area faster than him

[vestal ibex]

I did 1 named enemy group, 1 territory control, and 3 pub executions in just over 5 minutes.

[magic pilot]

That's pretty damn fast

[upper patrol]

watching the video, what i don't understand is how they don't just gun you down as soon as you take your first shot lol

Everytime i shoot my first bullet everyone goes crazy on me

[vestal ibex]

idk I've just got a few hundred hours doing that in solo/4 man/legendary with all sorts of GEs and mostly 5 directive. It's a skill that needs work imo.

[tulip charm]

woah youtube famous already

[magic pilot]

Video from Raucey 2 years ago came up as well lol

[rocky rain]

At which vendor can I buy Field Recon Data Bundles?

[acoustic coral]

Bish calling me out smh

The shield in HHF feels so fake tho, like it's gone in 60 seconds except much faster. I just cannot get into the gameplay, DCH Regulus is more my jam

[flint wave]

Bruh 60 seconds is a while

[slate wedge]

damn hahaha

not even playing the game anymore atm

[hexed steppe]

you can buy optimization caches at cd vendor, ge vendor, probably new textile vendor (dont quote me on that, not 💯 )

cheapest method will be grinding challenging/heroic ( 3frd/4frd ) controlpoints, they are part of the completion reward

can be crafted if you have the blueprint
can be purchased from the watch with scavenging points

[slate wedge]

how the hell do i have 1.9k views on this?

[vestal ibex]

People wanna know how to do it duh

[magic pilot]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxTW7OzOA3zfaV87-nsiSZF0RHto5VTavN?si=SMDEVy2zJifBMACT

@vestal ibex @urban latch

[urban latch]

I think that's how it started lol

[magic pilot]

"We can do it under 30" does it under 12

I gotta start playing pc again damn

[vestal ibex]

We gotta get sub 10...

[rich cosmos]

Are survivalist or demolitionist good for tip of the spear?

[hexed steppe]

doubt. tip of the spear is kinda a dead set now. used to be great for sharpshooter/headshot builds. itll still boost the spec weapons but does nothing for the weapons like it used too

[dull ermine]

G36 feels nice… how do you guys feel about it

Buff is

[hexed steppe]

havent tried it yet since resolve

[rich cosmos]

Second question, whats the standard version of mechanical animals talent?

[dull ermine]

15s instead of 19s

[rich cosmos]

15s is still pretty good

[hexed steppe]

what are you trying to build with tips, there might be an alternate way to build it

[rich cosmos]

Nah that was unrelated to tip

Tip was just a random thought

[hexed steppe]

oic

[rich cosmos]

The devs confirmed they have no plans on fixing picaros holster not taking a red core right?

[dull ermine]

Si

[hazy steeple]

I honestly don't think it's a "fix" situation, and more of a "it would break balance" situation.

[rich cosmos]

Most likely

[dull ermine]

Trello states it messes with core attribute coding

[hexed steppe]

its pretty decent as a dual core piece tho

[hazy steeple]

Maybe if it was counted as base cores and not an attribute one it would help.
but none of us here are devs so

[rich cosmos]

Im thinking of using this instead of a damage talent for my ninja bag build, cause then I can replace a skill tier and be fine

[hexed steppe]

we're armchair devs

[wise swallow]

MSV accidentally making a good change. Couldnt do that with efficient tho.

cant fix picarios but they can fix efficient in a week

[hexed steppe]

definitely a good utility piece talent if going hybrid

[hazy steeple]

Again, I'm almost certain it's not actually a thing that needs to be fixed, and more of a balance situation.

[wise swallow]

efficient didnt need to be fixed eitherr

[hazy steeple]

No one cares about Efficient lol.

[wise swallow]

I do, very much

[dull ermine]

Don’t blame them really but I think the fix would be to give it 2 cores and 2 mod slots that can only fit certain mods

[rich cosmos]

Ehhh sorta, the build is ninjabag so its objectively gonna be out damaged but I decided to cave in and do my self healing striker idea Ive had for a while, only thing I was struggling with was if it was worth putting on tech while having another skill tier, with the gun talent I don’t have to run either

[dull ermine]

Or give it to the brandset

[hazy steeple]

"oh cool, maybe an extra armour kit, what a game changer!"

and it even uses up a Talent slot.

[rich cosmos]

Efficient with survivalist was fun

[hazy steeple]

and its only 50% too i mean just, "no thanks"

[hexed steppe]

having tech will let you have an extra red or blue core. and you can set tech for 10% healing instead of skill damage

[wise swallow]

efficient counted toward the insta kit, gave 50% armour with insta kit.
It wasnt strong in PVE but they fixed the 50% for no reason. PVP people loved it.

[hazy steeple]

So it was a clear winner above other Talents in PvP?

[dull ermine]

How does the quick kit work with firewall?

[hexed steppe]

between tech/ninja, yellow picaros you can have 4yellow cores in 2 pieces

[limpid pelican]

yes it was either efficient or wyd

[hazy steeple]

I think you can probably guess why it was nerfed.

[wise swallow]

not a clear winner. obliterate and UB were still stronger in certain circumstances. It just made the game about survivability which has never been done. people have been begging for survivability in PVP since TU2 lmao

[limpid pelican]

easy response, but the survivability alone made solo or down numbers fights actually enjoyable

[hazy steeple]

Heck, MSV have flat-out stated that they're looking at tweaking dtooc, so this shouldn't be a shock.

[rich cosmos]

No didn’t they say they were gonna look at the other slot attributes

Id much rather have something like mag size get buffed

[hazy steeple]

does no one else watch the live-streams?
They said that they are looking into the matter, not that they are buffing others or nerfing it. Looking into.

[rich cosmos]

Its quite literally just strikers, but I have self healing, mainly because I mentally couldn’t handle umbra anymore, with the gun talent, it means I can be more fluid with the stuff I use

[wise swallow]

the current meta is ass and thats agreed upon by everyone. effiecient left room for outplaying which made it fun. didnt work well in DPS only builds cuz eating a brand and talent just wasnt worth it

[wise swallow]

no cuz itll make me even more salty

[hazy steeple]

Oh cmon, his comment about cheaters was hilarious.

[wise swallow]

what did he say

[hazy steeple]

"if youre cheating in the game, dont be a dick, go play something else"

[rich cosmos]

So real

[hexed steppe]

i would definitely tech class and roll strikers mask red. tier 4 skills, 6red core

[hazy steeple]

And somehow even better: we're going to add a line of code that says "cheaters = no"

[wise swallow]

thats funny but tbh it doesnt help with the cheater problem

[hazy steeple]

They're well aware of cheaters in PvP, they can't just remove them but they are doing their best.

[rich cosmos]

The main reason Im not running tech class is because I love the gunner perks much more, but I’ll give it more thought

[wise swallow]

again this is why i avoid the streams if theres no results i dont care about what they say

[hazy steeple]

I'm going to start keeping a tally of how many comments that use that petter emote that annoy me, I bet it breaks 100 by the end of the week.

It's the "bacon the narwhal" of this discord.

[hexed steppe]

by the end of the day *

[wise swallow]

ill try to use it less

[hazy steeple]

The only thing that saves it is that I cant unsee the guy from RLM as the face.

[wise swallow]

when was petter emoji created? during a div 1 stream or was it div 2 launch

[hazy steeple]

No idea, I wasn't part of any chatting div community at either of those points.

[magic pilot]

They said they didn't want to nerf any attributes just bring the others more in line

[rich cosmos]

Cough cough mag size buff when

[placid shuttle]

they can't just remove them
sure they can!

1. sign legislation to outlaw cheaters forever
2. we begin bombing in 5 minutes

[tulip charm]

Bombing them ingame or irl?

[onyx sage]

this is like a helldivers-style joke, i wouldn't think of it seriously

[lyric prism]

how bad is the damage loss without the pack?

[tulip charm]

Isnt it like 65% vs 100% at 100 stacks?

[lyric prism]

yea

its not like its multiplicative so the loss is there but with so many red cores vs. none at all I wonder if the damage is comparable to a straight all red HE build.

but with a lot more survivial possibilities

I have a brazos holster that came with 5 %chc still not rolled.

[serene flare]

are there any resources to figure out what mods there are for different skills?

[rich cosmos]

Its actually not bad specifically because of the weapon

The gun is tac mk16

[onyx sage]

it is, effectively the backpack gives you 1.21x

[rich cosmos]

The tac mk16 does a pretty good amount of damage while not having the worst rpm

And rpm doesn’t affect me too much

[serene flare]

which is the best healer chem launcher mod? All I have is the +1 ammo one

[lyric prism]

I have an ACR I kept from a tech setup rolled insync, could always try it. I don't have an mk16.

knowing I would probably just roll Elmo's.

[rich cosmos]

Elmos is a damage loss on the build Im using

Not worth using

[lyric prism]

base dmg being king?

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[lyric prism]

I also have a +18 bighorn still the same boat as Elmo's.

[rich cosmos]

I could easily use capacitor, but I don’t like capacitor

[lyric prism]

all things being equal

[rich cosmos]

I need to get another mk16 if I want future perfect tho

[lyric prism]

deflector or repair drone?

[rich cosmos]

I don’t see the use of deflector outside of pvp imo

[lyric prism]

I've been moving away from the shield, more like forcing myself. staple piece but trying other things. I like the deflector for what it allows.

mostly just trying things. 5yr old game.

as much as I like bighorn the crit change you need to roll to make it happy just kills your chd.

I see why you chose thw mk16.

[rich cosmos]

You try it out?

Its just surprisingly solid and pretty much is carrying the build

All I need is future perfect and to swap my striker mask

[lyric prism]

what I did so far just sitting here throwing things on.

skills not done ytet.

[rich cosmos]

I cannot see as I have terrible wifi

[lyric prism]

instead of an LVOA-C have ACR/Scorpio bc I just had Scorpio on.

otherwise about the same.

it gives a perfect 60% crit.

[rich cosmos]

I only have a lvoa because its my gimmick

[flint wave]

🤢

[lyric prism]

its not bad but higher rpm is just more responsive.

idk feels ok unless you get in a serious bind.

[flint wave]

ninjabike just not doing anything for this

[lyric prism]

oh hush internet.

[rich cosmos]

I would definitely suggest trying future perfect as well

[lyric prism]

....and no isn't exactly.

it does work but feels like glass.

[flint wave]

Hope that ceska 2pc coming in clutch

[rich cosmos]

Im used to it because I almost never use blue cores

[flint wave]

You should

it changes ur life

[rich cosmos]

I only use blue cores on heartbreaker

[flint wave]

why

[rich cosmos]

I don’t really like being more tanky, I have an ocd obsession with not being able to have full armor at a moments notice so I try different things to get that full armor

Like using unbreakable or umbra

[flint wave]

memento armor regen + gunner

[rich cosmos]

Memento doesn’t fit my playstyle enough, and I use it on my heartbreaker build

I play in groups

[hexed steppe]

memento fine in groups if your build is solid

[flint wave]

memento goes from top tier to ok once in group setting

[hexed steppe]

nah, i find it easy to stack regardless. use it on nego and my hh build. always in groups

[lyric prism]

I like the setup for the 4y/5r and you could go 4/6 with a spec swap but it just feels like glass. the drone doing some dps helps keep the heat off you but the same can be accomplished with some more room for error in some blue cores. the heals is nice but if you need it you are dead anyway

[hexed steppe]

what do they call that when you cant stack it🤔 ...
oh yeah, skill issue

[rich cosmos]

Its the fact that I don’t like its playstyle

[flint wave]

it's hard to simplify this game

[hexed steppe]

you dont really have to charge out and get trophies tho. just wipe out a room and collect after. once charged you only need a trophy every 5 mins to maintain full long buff.

[lyric prism]

so yea its a monstrosity but 400k more armor. 4r/2b/4y effective.

if you had to / wanted to / were drunk and ran the setup, I would run more like this.

1.1m armor and losing what gunner gives you for proxy damage/yellow core. its a good trade.

and yea one blue core. the armor is worth it but the damage loss is extreme.

[autumn pelican]

should i swap cdmg for dmage out of cover or max out ar dmg?

[lyric prism]

idk I think they are all dying laughing right now.

[hexed steppe]

crit damage to dttooc

[rich cosmos]

If your doing the same thing as me with the double healing skills the extra blue core seems like overkill

Also you could easily try using capacitor, Im not simply just because I don’t like it visually

Capacitor should preform a little better

[lyric prism]

i'll try it.

drone is doing dps right now, swapped it

[autumn pelican]

is the chameleon good? i just got it as a drop

[lyric prism]

eh, its ok but so much easier in yee old setups.

[lyric prism]

its an ok gun if you like it. the ramp up takes a while.

there are better HE guns that just function better on dps than waiting for Chameleon to tamp up

[rich cosmos]

Not really

It can be good

[hazy steeple]

It's a good idea to see Exotics in div2 as a kinda "side grade" to gold (high end) guns, not a full on upgrade.
Except for the Ourorboros which is just straight up broken.

[magic pilot]

Well you see

[autumn pelican]

oh no ⚰️

[rich cosmos]

I mean, a lot of exotics are less than useful

[hazy steeple]

They all have very specific, niche uses.
Even if they aren't the best at those uses, they're still there.

hence "side" grade.

[rich cosmos]

We desperately need a project resolve for exotics

[hazy steeple]

Sure, nerf any of the overly strong ones and buff the weaker ones.

[rich cosmos]

Its okay if something isn’t meta, the issue is when most exotics aren’t used because they aren’t good enough to justify using them in the first place

I mean look at ninjabag, its not that great but it allows for unique builds which is fun, making it heavily overused

[hazy steeple]

Ninjabag is a specific use-case, as it looks better than it is because "more stats overall" but you lose out on what makes the actual meta builds work.

It's the "2 or 3pc striker build for PvE" of Exotics.

[rich cosmos]

Once again, the issue is right now, we haven’t been getting gearsets or exotics that people care about, and when 70% of exotics are barely classify-able as good, people just don’t want to use them

A lot of exotics could really just use minor percentage changes

A lot

[hazy steeple]

I very much don't agree with that statement, but as neither of us have seen the actual usage data of new stuff, we can not know for sure, nor should we pretend to.

[rich cosmos]

You can’t deny that a lot of exotics are weak, too weak

Like yeah the meta ones need nerfed, strikers needs nerfed, but what about exotics that have been around for years

[hazy steeple]

I never said that they're strong, or even good enough.
just that they all have specific cases.

[rich cosmos]

What’s the point of adding new content if that new content isn’t enjoyed

A lot of people don’t like the new exotics

[hazy steeple]

Who says "the people" arent enjoying the content?

Remember that the people that actually talk are usually about 10% of an audience, and most never say anything.

If you want a good example of this, check out a youtube video. The views to likes ratio, and then the comments factored in too.

It's like, 10% interaction is actually quite generous.

Here's one closer to home. How many different people would you say comment on this server per day?

My guess is about <100, probably closer to 50 on a slower day.
during a live-stream that might rise to about 150, maybe 200

[rich cosmos]

Its funny, this game is slowly just draining itself out of enjoyment, it doesn’t make changes to 90% of the gear that needs it, it doesn’t buff weak items nearly enough, and continues to just add and add weaker items

[hazy steeple]

That's you though, you are finding it less enjoyable.

[rich cosmos]

And people like you don’t actually speak up

Im harsh on this game because literally no one else is

Anyone else who was just quit

[hazy steeple]

Oh cmon, don't pull that.

[rich cosmos]

Rightfully so

[hazy steeple]

You alone are not the only critic of div2, that is just blatantly false.

[rich cosmos]

Actually look at the changes they make

It took what? A month or so of people telling the devs not to add gear lock for them to comply

[hazy steeple]

Do you really think that a decision in the dev process is instantaneous?

[rich cosmos]

No I don’t, but it only happened because most of the community actually spoke against a change

We don’t need new content, we need the content we have to be worth using for more than just a day

[hazy steeple]

This is MSV, they've been around for 27 years. They've been a Ubisoft studio since 2008.
Things go through processes, they take time, snap decisions aren't made. That's how a company works.

Okay answer me this honestly, and don't just reply angrily, really think about it: do you enjoy div2 as a game, yes or no?

[rich cosmos]

Whats the point of adding niche content if people don’t even use the niche content that existed for years already

[rich cosmos]

Yes, and thats where I think you are completely blind, I wouldn’t make criticisms if I didn’t like the game, I play because it’s fundamentally a good game, but handled very poorly

[hazy steeple]

If I was "completely blind" I would take offense to your string of veiled insults here, instead I'm trying to work through what you mean.

but I think that's enough for one day. Take a lap, get some air and a change of room.

[shy willow]

While I agree the new content is lackluster I do prefer the niche exotics of old

But yeah they could benefit from their own project resolve

[rich cosmos]

As I was trying to make the point for, its not that its niche, its the fact that its not actually worth using a lot of the time

[shy willow]

Conceptually most aren't even bad they just need a boost to compete

[shy willow]

True

[autumn pelican]

not maxed but happy at last lol

[gloomy saffron]

How would one get striker gear if I don't see it in targeted loot?

[hazy steeple]

You can select your Targeted Loot (TL) in Countdown and Summit.

Countdown will be faster, just set it to Challenging, pick the TL you need and matchmake.

[gloomy saffron]

Ok dope ty just finished the dlc and brand new to the game

[hazy steeple]

welcome!

[autumn pelican]

is rate of fire attribute better than accuracy for the St Elmos? kinda spent my 2 rerolls

[shy willow]

Damage to targets out of cover is better than both

Rule of thumb for most guns, dttooc is the best third attribute

[autumn pelican]

thanks

[slate wedge]

fair enough

[dense ledge]

750k armor on kill build I made. Absolutely ridiculous

[cedar tapir]

And what does the build look like?

[dense ledge]

Ninja bike messenger bag is the best thing to come in the game

[cedar tapir]

You sacrifice a lot of damage for the aok though

And no gunner on this build?

[dense ledge]

Too lazy to level gunner up

I mostly only use technician for my heartbreaker build and or my tank and firewall for my striker

Build

[dense ledge]

But @cedar tapir This is my Aegis version of the same thing

I can actually tank a little more from the hunters in countdown because of it

[rocky rain]

What’s the best way for the SHD Global to find high concentration of Named and Eilte hostiles?

[hazy steeple]

Missions (difficulty on challenging or higher) with teammates (call for backup, then recall when someone shows up) and then make a cover-to-cover near a spawn point.

the teammates being there is important here, it seems to spawn more Elites.

[rocky rain]

Ah thnx!

[acoustic coral]

Otherwise CP4 is also good

[hazy steeple]

It might take you a few missions, but doing the Projects will get people to join nice and fast.

[warm socket]

I need a good pvp Build, i have 1 But might aswell have 2, so any ideas? Not striker🙏🏻

[wheat anchor]

Ive got a socom M1A with the boomerang talent, any better talents for it or nah

[modern heron]

Dose it need anything else?

3 peirce striker 2 bravos and the ninja backpack

[lyric prism]

why 2p bravo?

[modern heron]

For the mag size

Is it bad?

[lyric prism]

no, just wondering. most doing something like that do 1p bravo but it works.

[modern heron]

Would sokolov be better u think?

[lyric prism]

if you are focusing on smg, it would be 'better' in that regard, yea. 1p bravos1/sokolova would not be a bad thing.

[modern heron]

Kk thx ill see if i have a good sokolova piece

[lyric prism]

I woulds recommend the chest if those are the only striker pieces you have.

striker chest is ok if you want the extra stack build but sort of not needed unless you do sustained encounters.

[modern heron]

Do you think the new exotic smg would work with the build?

[lyric prism]

Ouro works with all builds and is broken as hell.

The question is can you get it from the incursion.

[modern heron]

Lovly gonna have to find a group to run with. And probably not knowing my luck lol thx for the tips

[lyric prism]

I would stick with the setup above until you get a good rolled sokolov. the mag size does help with sub guns if your having to deal with higher enemies.

[modern heron]

Thx ill keep that in mind

[pastel pasture]

is the div2 build tool still active; tryna see some numbers with behind you talent but it doesnt show in drop menu?

[lyric prism]

the one in the pins does work yes

[lyric prism]

if you are going to run subgun you might benefit from hunter's fury more than strikers. close quaters is where HF excels when using sub guns.

[wheat anchor]

50 round 9mm vector works for sure

Defo substitutes for the ouro

[lyric prism]

ouro with a 50% larger mag....I got nothing there.

[modern heron]

Yeah i have been trying to get into a incursion for like 3hours and no1 is doing it

Would the oxidiser be good aswell?

[lyric prism]

you might have better luck listing in the reddit Division discord, lots of groups form there.

[modern heron]

Ahhhhhhhhh

[lyric prism]

oxidizer does not hurt but should be left to someone with more electronics.

[wheat anchor]

ingame matchmaking basically doesnt exist for console

[lyric prism]

i would do riot foam.

[wheat anchor]

Oxi is only so good cause it works with dttoc shit

[modern heron]

Kk. Also Would u recommend a different signature other than the minigun?

[wheat anchor]

Survivalist and gunner are your best bets

If you're running a regular dps build

[lyric prism]

if you want the AOK and bullet replenishment? no. If you want more damage against deployed stuff and mechanicals? technician.

but I run my solo Striker setup with a palisade piece for the additional AOK and have 20% so its nice.

[wheat anchor]

Tech is nice cause of the free skill tier also

[modern heron]

Ok cool ill have a look

[lyric prism]

just try to get out of using ninja. yes you will get shit for using it bc people hump the meta train hard but also because there are so many good backpack talents.

bigger mag is nice but HF and good play awareness also help more in any build.

[modern heron]

Iv been trying to get the memento but it wont drop for me lol

[lyric prism]

keep trying. it does help, especially solo.

[wheat anchor]

Wild

Literally the first exo I got

Back at world tiers

Just do targeted loot backpack stuff

[modern heron]

Must of done like 30 countdowns and not got it

[wheat anchor]

And bounties

Bounties tend to drop chameleon or memento from what I've seen

[modern heron]

Nice ill start to do them then thx

[lyric prism]

run countdown, do targeted backpack loot. yea you will get a lot of things which might yield some good ones for later builds but it should drop.

queue for challenging, select loot on the map when you get there, follow the herd for a couple hours.

[modern heron]

Yeah definitely will try againater on tonight. So u think 3 piece hunters 2 piece sokolov and the memento would be good?

[lyric prism]

No. 4p HF 1p sokolov and momento.

but you might get more out of one grupo for the chd. idk.

Rivens shall say words now.

[hazy steeple]

you know the drill, "4 pieces or no pieces, except for hotshot" (for PvE)
and I'll add on Ceska is better most of the time, since it allows you to have more CHD rolls and such.

[warm socket]

I need a good pvp Build, i have 1 But might aswell have 2, so any ideas? Not striker🙏🏻

[modern heron]

Just got 2 mementos

Gonna cry

[warm socket]

Thats the Build im running right now

Any ideas to What other pvp Build i could run?

[wise swallow]

Oddly low CHD but that’s a good template

Maybe add another blue

Do you have big horn?

Nvm your ps big horn probably not a good idea

What kinda guns do you wanna use?

And play style

[warm socket]

I use st elmos engine rn, and rock, n Roll

[wise swallow]

Tbh it’s either the build you have or striker for Ar’s. you could run basically the same build with spotter, vigilance and tech laser for a higher dmg team based build

[warm socket]

I see i see

[wise swallow]

Obv that’s without elmo

You could run a HSD haz pro build but idk how comfortable you are with headshot only builds and big horn

[warm socket]

Not that comfortable tbh

[wise swallow]

Ya fair enough, stick with Crit builds for now

[warm socket]

Ight

[pastel pasture]

where is the easiest mission to see chungas at?

[lyric prism]

like a boss elite?

hit a legendary level stronghold. DUA outfront should have some.

[pastel pasture]

yea, im trying to test this build against chungas, the health pool on them in legendary is beefy

[wheat anchor]

If you're testing on a regular invaded mission, american history

[lyric prism]

oh yea the one outfront.

[wheat anchor]

If you want a legendary stronghold, get inside DUA

Theres like 3 white tusk tanks

[waxen herald]

What's with all these TD2 build videos showing people dropping the Striker Backpack for the Ninjabike

[shy willow]

ignore

[hexed steppe]

Gimmick shit to try and drum up views

We have the best resource right here pinned to this channel anyways

Basically, anywhere someone puts a ninja bag, memento would be a way better choice

[waxen herald]

Ngl I wished Memento worked better in multiplayer

Or maybe it's just bad in Countdown

I play too much Countdown

[serene flare]

I'm wondering if I should stick with my TDI Kard Custom or swap to a deagle. Both have Future Perfect on them so I can get a couple of quick kills somy Chem Launcher heals me super fast. I just wonder if the deagle would be better since it can chain more

[magic pilot]

Dua leg

[magic pilot]

The kard is the highest dps HE pistol

[hexed steppe]

Yeah mem not so great in CD. I definitly see it used but ymmv.
In regular groups/open world I never have a problem getting/keeping mem buff.
Build needs to be on point tho.

[serene flare]

Oh I didn't know that

[waxen herald]

Yeah in regular missions getting stacks is easy, idk what it is about Countdown tho

[hexed steppe]

Probably the 8man scaling and everyone focusing same spawns

[pastel pasture]

LOL i cant even see the chunga sometimes, does it always spawn outside? or do I need to be in the bld

[lyric prism]

Ninja is good in niche fun builds but for pure numbers a proper backpack talent always wins. I know this despite my weird builds.

Cavalier would of been perfect if instead of removing the nonskill damage part they just nerfed both skills and nonskill to 25%.

[magic pilot]

Heli drop

[pastel pasture]

Yea i ran it twice and didnt see heli drop with chunga

Im on solo tho if that matters

[tulip charm]

Its the second heli drop

in dua

[sudden fog]

@shy willow back again with the mm builds

[wise swallow]

Bro 💀

[tulip charm]

?????????

[acoustic coral]

who let him cook?

[rich cosmos]

The build of all time

[lyric prism]

so walk me through this one...

[wise swallow]

Almost all the nbp builds I see im able to somewhat understand the logic. This one I couldn’t even fathom lmao

[flint wave]

another person thinking ammo capacity = mag size

[rich lotus]

Silly question, just got back into division 2 about a month ago. How many times can you recalibrate an item?

[acoustic coral]

Depends on the framing of the question.
You can only change one attribute - but you can change that attribute as many times as you want.

[rich lotus]

So it’s good to find pieces that already have certain maxed out attributes, for example a max CHC then a non-maxed CHD and just replace the CHD?

[tulip charm]

depends on the piece of gear

[acoustic coral]

If you take this chestpiece as an example
I was lucky to get 15% Weapon Damage straight out the bag, then it rolled with CHC and CHD - I rerolled the talent. But my CHC and CHD wasn't max, I optimized those.

You want your piece to roll with n-1 attribute you want, where n is the total (Gear Set items = 2, High-End non backpack/chest = 3, High-End Backpack/Chest = 4)

[lyric prism]

this is the best kind of chest to get, swap talents on the fly. remember - you can Tinker on the move now including in missions.

[acoustic coral]

(that was information for Davey, right?)

[lyric prism]

....yes.

I didn't click right.

for my person open world setup this is proving way more usable than having a palisade chest:

I don't have a good intimadate chest and wasn't worried on getting one for the short encounters I get.

[acoustic coral]

Mine's a ceska aswell

[lyric prism]

ya

I have a Devil's Due I might throw on at some point but this works.

[hazy steeple]

Ceska on a gearset build is almost always the best idea, since you lack attribute slots and this way you get some more breathing space.

[lyric prism]

ya. before it was:

[hazy steeple]

you'd be surprised at how high up your chc can get by just that 10%, some from your watch, and gun mods.

[lyric prism]

just by feel the damage ramp feels much better. I suspect that is due to Obliterate.

once Strikers stacks its blap.

[hazy steeple]

Oblit is so good with striker.
honestly, having it on a ceska chest is going to work for other builds too, so you might as well work on the best version you can (don't bother with Expertise)

[lyric prism]

not having to rely on a stacking shotgun for the opening helps.

oh yea, its one of the ones I have. typical Striker build, etc.

[hazy steeple]

acs+ar is going to out perform pretty much anything that's not the Ouro, but it does depend on the situation too.

[hazy steeple]

You should rename your super meta one "striker with cheese"

[lyric prism]

no

[magic pilot]

I recommend new players to farm for a ceska chest and grupo bp with changeable talents

[hazy steeple]

use it exclusively with the Stinger Hunter outfit and call it "striker with burnt cheese"

[magic pilot]

You'll use them forever

[hazy steeple]

Okay my bad jokes aside, cham' is absolutely right. Good base pieces that are going to be great on multiple builds are absolutely worth farming out.

[lyric prism]

I mean, come on. youtube needs the feed

TOTAL DZ LOCKDOWN!!!oneone didn't fit.

[hazy steeple]

Honestly whenever I see block caps all I think of is that bit from Austin Powers where he just starts randomly shouting in the middle of a sentence.

"im sorry I'm having trouble controlling THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE".

[pastel pasture]

Do you automatically get 6 tiers of everything when someone else overcharges?

[lyric prism]

no you get the overcharge effect.

[hushed gorge]

Hello chat

[lyric prism]

hi

[pastel pasture]

really the overcharge effect for achilles pulse is+5 zones

[rich lotus]

Makes sense appreciate the help, I was watching videos but was still a little confused about it

[hazy steeple]

Ya need something?

[hushed gorge]

Nah
Just passing by after a long time

Hello i meant
Hellp was a typo mistake

My bad

Hows the update doing?
Just played for 2 days with only EB Striker

[rich lotus]

So I changed my core attribute does that mean I can’t change my attributes anymore? After I changed my core one?

[hushed gorge]

EB with DTTOOC is chef kiss

[magic pilot]

Yes

[hushed gorge]

If u recalibrated it,you can change the attribute you changed before

[magic pilot]

Yea overcharge is tier 6 plus the bonus, some skills get unique buffs like pulse gives at 15% amp

[rich lotus]

Okay makes sense thank you

[lyric prism]

see, this is why i come here. didn't know that

[rich lotus]

So then for regular attributes I can change to max out both CHD and CHC

Sorry for the questions lol

[magic pilot]

You can recalibrate one roll or talent on gear/weapons but you can slowly max out the other attributes it dropped with

[magic pilot]

There's a few other like that

[rich lotus]

For sure thank you

[magic pilot]

Sheild is completely indestructible while over charged

[hidden creek]

Hey me again short question I was running countdown and make 500k hits with my Elmo playing crit set and then somehow I made 2,5 millions hits with my Elmo and solod agents . Somebody have an idea what this was ??????????

[lyric prism]

raw power.

[acoustic coral]

I genuinely never pull out the ACS (as solo) except for on CD extraction when you're just clearing the chopper spawns, because otherwise - by the time I get close enough to the enemies for proper stacking with the ACS, I would've killed the enemies with my Elmo

[lyric prism]

ya. I just sticky and banshee them in CD, my favorite way to help.

but ya usually one hunter and your stuff is maxed.

[acoustic coral]

I know Elmo, it was a scuffed way of saying I only really use the ACS on CD extraction, no real need in solo play - I know it's usable in group play for Incursion/raid to bonk something indestructible for stacks.

[hidden creek]

What does that mean ?

[flint wave]

acs is more then a stacker but you have to be really close

[acoustic coral]

I know, but it's always recommended for stacking and not dps due to lack of ammo -> but as you say yourselves, you have to be really close, and in most cases you could've just killed them before getting that close.

[lyric prism]

with RnR broke on reload I went back to my fast hands ACS-12.

[acoustic coral]

The Close Range countermeasure in Countdown has a weird interaction, so instead of buffing by 25% it's a bit more than that.

[flint wave]

can't believe they made fast hands stack per pellet now

[lyric prism]

my favorite goofy CD buffs interaction was when somehow banshee got a 30sec duration. watching a bunch of hunters and BT just wonder around drunk was funny.

[hidden creek]

Yeah but it was not all the time I got a buff down in my stats and then pew pew pew 2.5 mio hits thought it was from a proc from a Set from my group members . I had that now seperal times

[flint wave]

overcharged banshee pulse?

[lyric prism]

I guess.

it worked 2-3 times though

[flint wave]

I never seen that even with haz pro and haz resistance countermeasure in the same match

[acoustic coral]

I've had the same thing happen going from 1M to 4M+ hits on my striker elmo, asked in here and it seems like it was a weird interaction with the close range countermeasure - and last time I played Countdown with it, it happened again.

[lyric prism]

i had one where I ran fire chem and I hit groups with it and it ticked once. they died.

elites and boss took a sec but it worked.

[acoustic coral]

(So let's not report this thing, because it's nice to see enemies go brr dead in countdown sometimes)

[flint wave]

Did countdown break overnight lol

[hidden creek]

Yeah I play crit set Coyote and crit talent on chest

[flint wave]

status shouldn't be insta killijg

[lyric prism]

this was a while ago but normally that don't happen.

maybe something went uber dumb in that instance.

[acoustic coral]

I mean, could be the same bug, but because you so rarely run fire chem you haven't had it happen again xD

[lyric prism]

true

[acoustic coral]

Let's be real though, this ain't a bug, it's a feature.

[lyric prism]

riot foam and banshee pulse and by then the pack is dead.

[hidden creek]

Yeah had that seperal times now and was just happy I’ll checked sets and everything cause I wanted that for my perfect group 😂😂

[lyric prism]

the calculations on Falcon Lost release were a 'feature' too. shudder

but yea, sometimes CD has some weird interactions on skill cd's and how they line up.

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, I was in here asking around about the same thing, because if that was buffs from a support class or something, then I definitely wanted to run with it

[lyric prism]

a proper FI setup is your greatest support buddy to feel power and glory.

[hidden creek]

That’s the vid 😂😂

[lyric prism]

you have been banshee pulsed forever. gg welcome to the afterlife.

[acoustic coral]

I mean, yes, but it doesn't take you from 1M pr bullet to 4M pr bullet ^^

[lyric prism]

shhhhhh

[hidden creek]

The second agent just got splattered 😂😂

[acoustic coral]

Defo prefer my BluescreenDilemma build over running FI tho

[lyric prism]

describe.

[acoustic coral]

points to the build sheets

[lyric prism]

ah ha.

ceska chest is unusual on that w/ coyote.

guessing bc Bluescreen has no chc like bighorn

[pastel pasture]

[acoustic coral]

There's math in the bottom of the evernote

[lyric prism]

yea the 57% chc thing w/ coytotes.

[wheat anchor]

Having coyote and anything above 50% chc is wild

Unless you're running a cqc oriented build

[lyric prism]

my bighorn strikers comes right in at 50% chc so its perfect.

[wheat anchor]

Also opinion on this (I have no D50s, I plan on farming pistols)

[acoustic coral]

But yeah, I like the Bluescreen dilemma as it's decent enough for the activities before extraction, and shines when you can just tag everyone with the bluescreen later

[lyric prism]

noted

[wheat anchor]

Honestly at some point I need to make a legendary build

Bighorn seems like a weapon I'd enjoy

Pseudo dmr

[lyric prism]

when it stacks 2mil+ crits are the usual on AR form.

[wheat anchor]

That or I cheese summit floor 100

Scorpio exists after all

Ahh classic, instantly hop into summit and its a rogue encounter

[lyric prism]

this ND setup gives me a reason to carry my c7.

[wheat anchor]

Fucked by an oxi carrying rogue typical

[slate wedge]

@stiff jasper

build is standard 3 blue high damage with vigi and unbreakable

picaros, coyotes, contractors, foxed, ceska chest, fenris/grupo backpack

[wise swallow]

Can you insert math for Eb

I’m curious

[flint wave]

Bluescreen power crept by elmo

[acoustic coral]

What you is talking about?

[dreamy valve]

It’s pretty blurry but maybe you can try this

[hexed steppe]

did you blowup someones thumbnail 😂

[magic pilot]

No one uses the scope btw

[flint wave]

you could make this ss a discord emoji

[dreamy valve]

Yeah, I’m on my phone in the bathroom

[magic pilot]

Console aim summed up right there

[magic pilot]

What is this exactly?

[acoustic coral]

Elmo, what you is talking about?

[magic pilot]

Bro mag dumped the side of a car

[flint wave]

wdym most of his misses came from barrel stuffing a car

[flint wave]

blue screen cc talent < elmo cc talent

[magic pilot]

I'm gonna give you a tip

Move your sensitivity bars as far to the right as you can

[acoustic coral]

Lmao, you're dreaming.

[lyric prism]

how the f did you get it so blurry

[wheat anchor]

Memento 4 piece striker and ceska, fair

5 blue 2 red is smth

[flint wave]

this is good advice if you use mnk on consoles

But I prefer using controller on console

[dreamy valve]

https://youtu.be/0EKadQtqhmU?si=JwdV_Ou5xJfIMAJG

[hexed steppe]

there ya go

[magic pilot]

If you think playing at max sens means you play MnK on console you are one of the average npc players in this game

[acoustic coral]

We need an emoji but with nbb

[magic pilot]

His clip looks like a T-Rex Is trying to play

[flint wave]

max sens doesn't work for everyone

[magic pilot]

This game has notoriously slow sens even at max

I play with scope sens at 5 though

[acoustic coral]

Why the heck are you bashing him, when all he wanted to show was the damage buff bug that we were talking about

[acoustic coral]

Okay, but 400 dpi or 4000 dpi? What resolution? And what does this have to do with build advice?

[flint wave]

dur pc master race !

[hexed steppe]

when are we not talking shit? fr

[flint wave]

real

[acoustic coral]

looks at you not wanting to mention a hacker who may or may not be on the server and then back to the clip of a guy who is in here

[hexed steppe]

way to be cryptic. must be sensitive today ig...

[acoustic coral]

Cryptic? Wdym, I just think it's weird not wanting to mention a hacker's name because you didn't want to shame someone, but we can justify bashing someone who's actually in here

[hexed steppe]

oic,
most gaming communities have a naming and shaming policy... its not about protecting some DH hacker, its about not getting myself in hot water over something stupid.
its a bit different than interacting in friendly banter with someone present in the server... i wouldnt call wat you reacted to as bashing... there is a lot of banter and sometimes its not always clear that it isnt serious...

[wise swallow]

Who we shit talking?

[hexed steppe]

you, and that silly cat pfp now ,

[wise swallow]

Mnk on console if you used the ball mouse things

[hexed steppe]

🤣

[acoustic coral]

I agree with this statement

[wise swallow]

You saw it

[hexed steppe]

auto mod was too quick but i think i got the jist

[wise swallow]

Don’t insult my cat

[acoustic coral]

I wasn't quick enough, can you type it again

[wise swallow]

I’ll type it till auto mod executes me? Hard pass brother 💀

[acoustic coral]

Just type it, screenshot and send the picture 5head

[wise swallow]

🗿

[wise swallow]

Also this is no surprise

You read over 2 words a minute?

[acoustic coral]

2 words a minute? That's pretty aggressive, 1.5 on a good day

[magic pilot]

Well literally none of that matters because he's on console

[tulip charm]

xd

[magic pilot]

I'm not trying bash him that was just some horrendous aim, I woulda clipped that a little shorter is all

I just posted a clip of me calling for a valve flip on fieser at the complete wrong time, it happens sometimes

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, but you mentioned 5 scope sens to describe what you play on, but you're on pc, and it means nothing without all the other details ^^

[magic pilot]

Click on the profile buddy

[acoustic coral]

Look man, just say you mean on console then, geez.
I've been appeasing you all day, deconstructing like 3 chameleon 🥵

[flint wave]

rate my build guys

[magic pilot]

I respect it

[flint wave]

I need build advice

[magic pilot]

Can you zoom out more

[flint wave]

better?

[magic pilot]

Yea think I fixed it, trying running this instead

[flint wave]

thx agent

[magic pilot]

Sorry for the quality I took it on my phone

[flint wave]

amazing build advice like always

[acoustic coral]

That's pretty goated, solo heroic cd worthy

[magic pilot]

It's the secret build you unlock once you do manning leg with 6 pc 5.11

[rich lotus]

Does anyone know how much damage you need to output to be able to 1 shot a gold in countdown

Count

[magic pilot]

25 m I think?

21

Around there

[rich lotus]

Ah so doable, just saw a guy run snipers in countdown and pop everything 1 shot

Thought he was cheating for a moment there lol 8 man group and just tapping everything

[magic pilot]

It's very hard to get started but once you do it's no problem

Before tip of the spear rework you could easily one shot the hunters with nemesis

[rich lotus]

Almost there, Just need to upgrade the sniper a little bit more

[magic pilot]

Use the nemesis to start HH stacks

Then swap to your determined sniper

[rich lotus]

Yeah that was the plan

[magic pilot]

Also if you use sharpshooter you get more dmg on the mmr

[rich lotus]

Anything I can swap on the build itself to improve the damage?

[rich lotus]

Oooh

[magic pilot]

That's pretty much max first shot dmg

[flint wave]

overkill if it was a build:

[magic pilot]

I would keep chainkiller

[rich lotus]

Coutdown

[tulip charm]

no such thing as overkill

[magic pilot]

Sawyers will hit harder obviously

[flint wave]

hopefully heroic

[rich lotus]

Yep

[flint wave]

one day we will see viable snipers in heroic cd

[tulip charm]

Long range buff also helps