td2-build-advice

[solar berry]

overall

[gentle lichen]

Oh nevermind didn't see the chest

[solar berry]

3pc gila, emperors guard and belstone is 4% arm regen. if 2pc golan. less arm and health also .5% less arm regen as well

its based around arm regen with additional survivability from gila (bonus arm and health), catharsis helps with lost dmg and status effects also. efficient with firewall is amazing overall even without the efficient bug rn. concussion BP because its a HSD focused build. concussion also helps out the dmg lost as well.

[solar berry]

found this sexy piece

[vestal ibex]

You can craft those right?

[solar berry]

maybe idk

[lyric prism]

Yaahl I don't think so.

[vestal ibex]

I know you can craft a few pieces of yaahl. I just forget which,

[sudden fog]

Why nobody on mm

[gentle lichen]

Left of your gear yes right no

So bag glove knees you can't craft

[vestal ibex]

I mean that's one way to remember lol

[wise swallow]

is that exotic SVD any good

dead edict or dread edict something like that

[tulip charm]

meh

[solar berry]

its decent

[serene flare]

are damage calqs weird?
I never really thought to look at it much, but my headhunter build does way less damage than my stats page says it should
my Nemesis currently does 2,424,879 at max charge
my HSD is 325.2%
Perfect Headhunter stacked up grants a 1250% bonus which would equal out to almost 1 trillion, but at most I ever see is 52 million

[solar berry]

there is a number cap for damages. i forgot what it is

[serene flare]

I'm sure there is,but 50 million certainly isn't it. The number slowly climbs the more I optimize and max out my gear

[sly gulch]

For real. My FI Scalpel build hit for 75 mil with the event (obv I know the event doesnt represent real game)

[urban latch]

Headhunter is particularly weird

There's a whole guide to headhunter on the pinned spreadsheet

[shy willow]

Heartbreaker is aight but I don't think it's gonna beat strikers

On heroic there's a lot of flexibility though

[hexed steppe]

1bil afaik

[normal cypress]

it's int32 max

this is also why the end of mission summary overflows to negative numbers

[onyx sage]

welcome back!!

[normal cypress]

hey bud

[onyx sage]

been a while

[shy willow]

I haven't seen mjx in timee

[normal cypress]

it has been some time

hope you're all keepin good

[onyx sage]

i'm on a quest to spread headhunter propaganda

glad to say it's been somewhat fruitful

[shy willow]

[normal cypress]

are you about to recruit me using misinformation and a dream of prosperity

[onyx sage]

no, i would tell you it's a weird fun off-meta build, and then you run it and find out it actually does stuff

[normal cypress]

the best kind of build

i'm in

[onyx sage]

👍 we gotta recruit more

[shy willow]

Meanwhile on coney island:

[lyric prism]

blue core ND.

I mean it does have a fun house.

[hexed steppe]

🤷‍♂️ had a speedrunner buddy send me a really team buffed headshot of 1bil even. Comment had nothing to do with mission end damage calc

For reference. Not sure if it's the cap but it's pretty hard to get a perfect 1bil...

[magic pilot]

It is capped

[onyx sage]

1bil is the cap yes

but yes the question is just about HH misconceptions rather than the actual damage number cap

[magic pilot]

You can also hit 1b as a duo

[hexed steppe]

Op specifically commented about a cap on damage, but was unsure of what it was

[vestal ibex]

Pretty sure you can solo that tho.

[copper holly]

Is there anything else I can use instead of regulus

[hexed steppe]

Determined d50

[copper holly]

How do I get that

[vestal ibex]

Farm pistol TL.

[gentle lichen]

This shall be THE health build

[magic pilot]

Think so

[copper holly]

D50 right

[magic pilot]

Should go 1.8 and go regen/hsd

[magic pilot]

Wrong ping lol, yea d50 is fine

[magic pilot]

Think so

[solar berry]

like this XD

[gentle lichen]

Im looking for better ceska

To roll armor

[solar berry]

is that health rolled everywhere?

[gentle lichen]

Yeah without it you'd be 1.4

[solar berry]

ThinkEyes

u can easily have 1.7mil arm and 1.7 mil health.... interesting

[round zinc]

My man really rolled health on everything like who hurt you

[solar berry]

man wanna be all time body shield

im currently making my striker arm regen build atm xD

70k arm regen i can push it but its not finished yet

[lyric prism]

so I'm bored. good/anyway better?

status rolls, haste mods.

35sec cd on the turret

need a better 2nd roll on chest but it would be haste.

[upper gale]

whats a good crit chance %?

[lyric prism]

60% is max.

[upper gale]

o

[lyric prism]

chd you can go to the moon

[gentle lichen]

150k head with bighorn

Think i'll go efficient though

The medkit for firewall on this is really op

[solar berry]

will be nerfed on patch

[lyric prism]

thought only system corruption was getting that nerf.

revolving fire turret is fun in enclosed spaces. foam their asses and turn the thing on. its like bbq in a sandwich.

[upper gale]

on a exotic

can i not cap it?

[lyric prism]

you don't have enough materials to do the optimization rolls.

[upper gale]

starting up again so no clue bout this stuff xd

what mats do i need?

[lyric prism]

the patch tomorrow will show what you need below that.

[shy willow]

Try to optimise it it’ll bring up a list

[upper gale]

these things?

[lyric prism]

those sorts of things yes.

most of the times its Field Recon Data you are missing.

you can craft them at the crafting table.

each roll eats like 37-47 of them, each roll. the most gated shit possible.

[upper gale]

and how do i get the components?

[lyric prism]

farm stuff, deconstruct.

[upper gale]

kk

[lyric prism]

deconstruct a lot.

[upper gale]

where would they be at the crafting table

[lyric prism]

you can also do countdown and buy the crafting chests, do project missions, etc.

yes, to make them.

[upper gale]

wat catagory they under?

[lyric prism]

um

[upper gale]

nvm

[lyric prism]

bottom left.

[upper gale]

i found tyyy

theres some challenges in summit im guessin

[lyric prism]

yea. when you are in summit bring up the map, they list on the right if I remember correct.

[upper gale]

kk tyy, gonna run a summit as norm do countdown

[lyric prism]

yea. vege on countdown, maybe farm a particular loot you do want, do a lot of runs, buy the correct crafting chese from the table on the boo.

[upper gale]

im just goin for a crit build then gon run pvp alot xd

so just farming striker, ceska with unbreakable and coyote mask

[solar berry]

CD is the best for farming gear/mats tbh

[upper gale]

still a big wip but only 20h on the game in total on pc XD

but i must admit, ppl on pc in dark zone got shite aim lmao

[upper gale]

yeah tbf i dont think its worth farming all the mats for the mask when i got it quite quick. its low weapon its like 11.7

gon cost alot to get 15

[solar berry]

unless they use controller for that AA xD

[upper gale]

bro even on controller they r bad. i was #1 for kills on xbox first 6 month of the game

noone could aim XD

[solar berry]

obivously making a brand new character at a high shd lvl is the best method for mats

[upper gale]

yeah mine is max lvl now just farmin countdown

to get watch up

[solar berry]

man. the only thing that sucks about the striker arm regen build. the chd is gonna be low but the dmg stacks makes up for it

[upper gale]

yeah the dmg output with good aim works well

thats why i want unbreakable

[lyric prism]

I really wish ToTS would make the grenade launcher do way more damage. like 2-3 hit an elite.

not 20.

[shy willow]

Wait till you see Hollywood

[lyric prism]

might fix it for that

[solar berry]

70% haz pro also xD

[upper gale]

Bootleg ss but fuckin strong smg build i ran into

[flint wave]

could be way stronger

but ofc ninjabike ruins another build

[solar berry]

its strong asf, it deletes people quick asf

[upper gale]

Reckon its the best one for 1v1?

[solar berry]

it can do very well, yes

[upper gale]

Kk

[solar berry]

i need more chd on mine but its nasty especially with ouro

[lyric prism]

2p electrique for the shock resist and stuff?

[solar berry]

2pc for the smg dmg

[lyric prism]

ok i don't have it in front of me.

[solar berry]

ninja bp helps to fill in the 3rd spot of the brand

[lyric prism]

ya

I like ninja in some instances when it allows such synergy.

many times you see it and it doesn't.

[hexed steppe]

could use 1p walker and get 5%wd for everything and 5%dta for everything

or a sokolov and get chd

[solar berry]

hunter have 20% when within 15m within the enemy, 15% smg dmg from HF, 30% smg dmg from electric 3pc, 15% smg dmg from spec tree. chest talent is optional but companion is free dmg when close to allies or your skill (even allies skills also)

thats the most dmg you can get with smg so far

excluding crits

[hexed steppe]

oh eletrique got buffed, didnt realize... rip... scratch that then

[lyric prism]

and when in doubt, burn them

[solar berry]

yea, project resolve

[lyric prism]

@hexed steppe sort of made a thing for boredom. not sure how well it works in the long run. haste mods, rolled status everywhere.

[hexed steppe]

im still catching up on the stuff i dont use much

[lyric prism]

but lol fun.

[solar berry]

read this to catch up xD #patch-notes message

[lyric prism]

wait - why the decoy?

[solar berry]

thats me, i like to hide myself and its also a skill xD

[lyric prism]

ah ok, DZ ya

I really do wish Exduro thing had something else. idk what.

[solar berry]

compaion works for decoy as well

in PvE i run reviver

but more reds to, maybe 1 or 2 more

[hexed steppe]

i wonder how traps as a secondary skill would work out with explosive delivery 🤔

[lyric prism]

hrm

I was enjoying plastering them in place and listening to their burning screams but that could work too

[shy willow]

Teammates with explosive delivery are infuriating

[lyric prism]

on the named chest it just keeps going too

I'll have to try traps.

[shy willow]

Like im just tryna play the game and my screen is just constantly quaking and all I can hear is BOOM BOOM BOOM

[lyric prism]

i have to go login and test this

[hexed steppe]

i had that one mm group. i was hh and they kept putting a turret on my cover... just said f it, youre gonna carry now

[flint wave]

not as bad as festive delivery Era right

[shy willow]

Redditors on their way to complain about headhunter builds and not simply leave the group

[shy willow]

And not admit theyre getting hard carried

[flint wave]

mid

[lyric prism]

lol

[flint wave]

needs to activate on every individual trap

[solar berry]

lol, it works like normal

[hexed steppe]

oh it only activates where the main hits, thats kinda shit

[shy willow]

If it activated per trap then

[hexed steppe]

was hoping it would

[flint wave]

Wait does it activate even when all traps are gone that's the real question

The trap is still "in use" even when they all die

[solar berry]

works like normal

[flint wave]

invisible exploding zones needs to happen

[solar berry]

it only works as long they are up. as soon the trap disappears. it stops exploding

@wise swallow you on?

[wise swallow]

I can be

[solar berry]

oof they are in my confict match

[solar berry]

conflict gameplay with it, last dude got deleted

[solar berry]

want me show you a smg build?

[flint wave]

Didn't look like that last guy had a single armor core

any build can melt that

[wise swallow]

thats 2 blue

[wise swallow]

send the inv

[flint wave]

low for pvp standards still

[rich cosmos]

Say goodbye to your processing power

[solar berry]

pull out a 6 blue

[wise swallow]

best 1v1 build on the planet. source: my ass

[shy willow]

All frames gone

[wise swallow]

k

[solar berry]

whats your ign again

i shouldve added you kek

[wise swallow]

/invite BorpaBusiness

[solar berry]

i sent you a friend request on ubi

[lyric prism]

omg traps and the incinerator are lol!

I can cover the entire upper deck of the tanker.

well, positioning both, but still lol

[wise swallow]

1.2s TTK on 2 mill armour

[solar berry]

with that smg build. o boy

[wise swallow]

try with me shooting back

[solar berry]

i have 6 blues as well

[wise swallow]

i wont kill i just wanna see how long it takes

[solar berry]

ok

[weary pier]

example?

[solar berry]

i wonder if LD does more

since it have bonus dmg on movement

[wise swallow]

tiny mag but try it

oops

i couldnt see armour cuz decoy lol

[solar berry]

looks like it hits harder but not faster

[wise swallow]

https://streamable.com/ealax7

this is my POV with ouro

[versed summit]

Vigilance, combined arms, bloodsucker etc.

[wise swallow]

yea

it gives me alot more time to shoot you

[solar berry]

so ouro is better for the most part. LD for more raw dps

[wise swallow]

my medkit did not proc lmao

[solar berry]

i saw

[wise swallow]

i wanna try a medkit macro

[solar berry]

xD tf

[wise swallow]

wanna see if itll proc while shooting lol

uhh

what the lag

[solar berry]

its so delayed

[wise swallow]

server crashed lmao

[solar berry]

i shot you just to do dmg 5 secs later

[wise swallow]

yea this server is fucked lmao

[solar berry]

imma try something'

bulwark regen on fleek

[wise swallow]

i mean i did whiff like 65% of my shots lol

[solar berry]

my dmg is so ass even with BH

[wise swallow]

[solar berry]

what happend to that time?

[wise swallow]

my insta kit didnt work twice

[solar berry]

oof

[wise swallow]

no efficient sucks 👍

[fresh grove]

That’s weird

[solar berry]

facts

mmm.

[strange wigeon]

could you explain ? I think it makes builds kinda boring, but still a good choice for many builds, right ?

[tulip charm]

Currently backpack talents are very strong and most 2 and 3 piece brand bonus aren’t that good making nbb not worth running. At the end of the day, You decide how to play and builds you enjoy.

[drifting panther]

The name is ironic

[drifting panther]

💀

[lyric prism]

"You WILL run Strikers w/ Elmo's and Ceska w/ Oliterate and Coyote, Crusader Shield and Revive Hive and you WILL enjoy it!

[tulip charm]

Honestly as long as I see good builds in my mm games then I couldn’t care less.

[flint wave]

It is enjoyable

[lyric prism]

one of these days I need to do the incursion, sucks solo

[tulip charm]

But seeing terrible build in my legendary queue is kinda insane

[drifting panther]

I did it and I'm glad I stole a ouro

[lyric prism]

just queued and went for it?

[drifting panther]

No I did it many times to farm it and when a tm got it and was dropping it

I just ran and stole it, left like a rat

[lyric prism]

lol

[drifting panther]

This was hours of grinding btw

Weeks ago

[lyric prism]

yea its got a seriously low drop rate.

[drifting panther]

1%

Like dude, shouldn't it rise up every time you do it

Like something that builds up

The talent isn't that good. Gun is okay

[flint wave]

the chest is 10% bosses that arent moss are 1%

[drifting panther]

Say Like 1%-15% per completion

[flint wave]

You only have 3 chances at the 1% per incursion run

[drifting panther]

It just rises up

[drifting panther]

3 chances?

[flint wave]

but it's unlimited attempts so nobody should be complaining

[flint wave]

Lovebirds and wright

[drifting panther]

Yeah I did it many times

Many attempts

10% at the chest kinda feels eh tbh

I should try IH someday because I have nothing else to do

[tulip charm]

Solo ih?

[strange wigeon]

I dont need builds I enjoy, I need builds to make up for my lacking skill in conflict /hj

[drifting panther]

Dude it's a raid

[tulip charm]

I believe in you!

[drifting panther]

You can't "solo" a raid. Only can do it with 4 or so people if it's dedication

[tulip charm]

🗿

[drifting panther]

The mechanics require more people which means you can't do certain things at once

I'm not esoterick from destiny

[tulip charm]

Ik. Just look out for it in the subreddit discord

Usually I see the same group of people early morning raiding

[flint wave]

Nah iron horse is ez solo

⠀

[drifting panther]

Really?

What about that flamethrower encounter

[flint wave]

solo iron horse has been done before

on discovery

[drifting panther]

Where you basically h

Oh.

[lyric prism]

ih 1/3/4 bosses have been solo'd before but I think the cheeses got fixed.

[drifting panther]

Heh. I really should try the raid for the fuck of it tho

I already have both exotics since the launch of IH years ago but eh. I'm bored

[lyric prism]

actually I think all four were solo'd

but probably cheese'd

[robust jay]

The easiest way to get maxed out mods is countdown correct ??

[hazy steeple]

It is indeed the easiest, as it requires basically no effort and just time spent.
The "fastest" way is likely a farming group on Legendary, but that's a real pain to set up.

[flint wave]

legendary summit would be the easiest if I actually enjoyed playing it

[hazy steeple]

Well since they fixed the coward's strat' for the final floor, you'd have to find a lower one.
maybe good old Flr 10.

[flint wave]

what happened to floor 100

If it's the doors closing behind you when you enter the room oxis never had to sit in the doors anyway

[hazy steeple]

That sounds like the "is it safe?" meme. It is fitting.
Apparently the doors now close yeah, which for some reason people thought killed the farm. Which it absolutely does not but some people are drama factories.

[flint wave]

They should've done that change to the incursion final

[tulip charm]

I wonder if they fixed leg tidal farm

[hazy steeple]

Fixed the issue with the Turret Boss dealing damage through the door in the final beat in Tidal Basin on Legendary difficulty.
That the problem? Because if so: yep.

There's patch notes over in #server-status, for some reason.

[tulip charm]

No you could farm the boss loot drop

[flint wave]

what boss

[tulip charm]

Turrets

[flint wave]

they don't drop loot last time I checked

[tulip charm]

When I farmed it we just oxi in the room and farm the turrets

[solar sable]

did that bug with the robodogs that vanished in Tidal Basin get fixed also?

[tulip charm]

Prob

I never did it again

[flint wave]

idk what bugs u guys are talking about

lol

[solar sable]

the one I said has or had idk, been active for over 2 years iirc

[pastel pasture]

is fast hands bugged right now?

[onyx sage]

long ago

they put loot behind mission clear instead of boss death now

[shy willow]

How so

[pastel pasture]

I thought all buffs and debuffs was on ur hud bar(showing icon) it seems to be weapon talents(some) are on alittle counter on ur gun

[sudden fog]

Today is the day i get Oreo

[shy willow]

That's always been there

[shy willow]

I'll be on in a bit if you need one

Reset is bound to have one drop

Actually might not cuz reset

[copper holly]

Nothing good in vendors rip

[scenic horizon]

Servers up or?

[copper holly]

Na the vendor reset before maintenance

Just watched a video on yt there was nothing good

[dull ermine]

Are the M60 Machine guns worth using now with the buff to WD?

Or the Stoner LMG/ mk46 / m249?

I notice the dps is roughly near each other between all of the LMGs now except pestilence which seems to have been majorly nerfed as it didn’t receive a buff

I’m guessing the stoner is still dead seems to be near the pestilence base dps

[hexed steppe]

Lmg suppression mechanic kinda makes any buffs not matter, imho.

[dull ermine]

If we were to ignore that tho 👁️ and reload time

[upper gale]

how rare is it to get 2x dmg attribute on eq
these mfs not droppin

[magic pilot]

I believe the first attribute has a higher chance to match the core and the second attribute is random

[rich lotus]

Here's my build and current stats not everything is optimized nor is my bag isn't the best nor do I have maxed headshot damage mods

[vestal ibex]

You'll clap everything ez in heroic, would need to see 1st-2nd-3rd shot to know how well you'd do in legendary tho. As long as you headshot it's all good. For a disgusting amount of cheese pick up a high end sniper with determined on it.

[rich lotus]

I do have The White Death with Determined I just perfer mantis since it works with my decoy

[magic pilot]

Backpack talent needs work

[rich lotus]

kay

Is it possible to have DTOC on a nemesis?

All the rerolls I get is CHC or CHD

[rich lotus]

what do you mean 1st-2nd-3rd shot

[rich lotus]

Need to hit headshots consecutivelly to be effective, every miss is a slow down pretty much with that build although you could potentially trade off the knees for fox's for higher initial damage

[magic pilot]

Yes

[tulip charm]

You need better luck

[magic pilot]

Try sacrificing something

[rich lotus]

God I rerolled like 7-8x now lol

Always chc chd

Oh I got one to drop maxed nvm

[rich lotus]

okay I know I ran a legendary stronghold yesterday the build held up well till heavies came in then it was hard to take off their helments if you have any advice on how to take those off easier

[tulip charm]

Nemesis

[rich lotus]

Nemesis or have a good alt dps build you can swap quickly

[tulip charm]

also were you doing it with the global event on?

[rich lotus]

okay I do have an good nemesis from when I first gotten it

Nemesis > mantis forever at least for me

[rich lotus]

no i turn off global after getting all it rewards

Peak damage

Just annoying to get used with the hold left trigger

the charge shot is what pushed me away from it

Yeah it's a bit annoying but I've been using it for so long that now it's whatever

Worth a trade to be able to break heavies helmet with ease

true

[vestal ibex]

The way that head hunters works is you're 1-2-3 shots have different values and that is the gauge of what diff it will comfortably work in. It's basically your breakpoints, you then compare those to the normal enemy health/armor and you can get an idea of what you'll one shot depending on your HH amount.

[rich lotus]

Ah okay I just make sure I hit headshots and that is working

[subtle ledge]

What build should i do

And how do i know if my armor is good or not

Same for weapon

[vestal ibex]

Yeah it's just good to know who you can one shot after dropping stacks.

[magic pilot]

@vestal ibex have you been to the textile vendor yet?

[subtle ledge]

I think im talking to myself

[pastel pasture]

theres a build sheet in the pins section, it shows all "meta" builds for div2, theres some off-builds/fun builds but I get mine from either youtube, or playing with some builds that are already out and switching things

[rich lotus]

Yeah

[vestal ibex]

Am working yo.

[half cosmos]

hello was talong about the meme build yesterday

@west quiver as i said yesterdasy current build plz rate

[sly gulch]

lol i have a similar one

[half cosmos]

why is yours blu?

[sly gulch]

dont mind the extra skill tier, i dont use it like that

colorblind setting prolly

[half cosmos]

hehe how does it serve u?

[sly gulch]

it's interesting i guess

[half cosmos]

what chest peive is that?

[sly gulch]

alps with empathic resolve, gives +15% weapon damage for heals with 6 skill tiers

[half cosmos]

died to glasscanon

[drifting panther]

Textile vendor?

WHERE

Answer me

@magic pilot

[tawdry flare]

Where is it

[vestal ibex]

He unlocks along side cassie, you've gotta find the snitch.

[tawdry flare]

nice

[hexed steppe]

Closed for 16ish hrs afaik. At least location states that on the map

[upper gale]

wat is that 0/23

[hexed steppe]

Not surprising on a 6 skilltier nego build 😂

[hexed steppe]

Black tusk tactical assessments iirc

Do invaded stuff

[upper gale]

how do i get em?

[hexed steppe]

👆

[upper gale]

oki, how many drop per?

[serene flare]

lmao I just got a perfect M700 Carbon

[flint wave]

lol I got 999 bt tactical assessment and idk how

I just do a lot of black tusk stuff ig

and not optimize stuff that actually requires it

[serene flare]

I could swap out DTTOOC and then use like a tiny amount of resources to max out the optimizations

[flint wave]

Don't optimize or it won't let u recal again

[upper gale]

wym

[flint wave]

You can't recalibrate an optimized attribute

[upper gale]

ah ye well that fine

it was just for smg build i was gon max it

pvp one

[serene flare]

why would I want to do that? I only optimized the MMR damage and HSD

[hexed steppe]

Leave the dttooc. Keep the talent free for any future changes

[serene flare]

I swapped DTTOOC in from a crappy stat

[flint wave]

lmao preparing for determined removal in 2027

[hexed steppe]

Welp, it's good then

[hexed steppe]

It just wouldn't surprise me something more broken comes along

[onyx sage]

i want a more utility talent tbh

future perfect and preservation are rn my fav utility talents

[flint wave]

what like homing bullets?

[onyx sage]

determined 2 comes along where you can shoot literal air and it will redirect to a head

[serene flare]

exactly, headshots on any hit is already busted

[wise swallow]

yea they might add a different talent that gives you 400% weapon dmg for fucking being able to piss 4 inches.

[flint wave]

Me when I shoot air and it hits the red assault 2 control points away instead of the elite rusher next to me

[wise swallow]

they will manage to add another talent that is twice as strong

[onyx sage]

instead of hitting a head, you either hit the head twice as strong or hit 2 heads

[half cosmos]

where do i go to test damage?

[onyx sage]

ricocheting would actually be nice if you don't wanna run ND tbh

[flint wave]

Screw determined 2 tbh just let us put determined 1 on shotguns

aka m870

[half cosmos]

bro flame grenade thing is EPIC

[magic pilot]

Yea saw that

[rich lotus]

purples health enemies are typically 1 shots golden bars take about 2 hadshot if they aren't focus on me

[vestal ibex]

If you know what your numbers your 1-2-3 shots are you can directly compare them to the enemy health table and know exactly what you can one shot per any scaling and difficulty for the most part.

[drifting panther]

So the textile vendor doesn't offer missed apparel

Just caches.

What the fuck is going on in this season

[pastel pasture]

My shot dmg is 0-0-0 because I miss wide right

[drifting panther]

Plus a limit?

That just seems useless because I have about 12k worth in caches

[elfin token]

Question if you max out attributes in library do the gear max out to

From dropped gear

[compact quail]

Which is better for a striker dps build between the Bighorn and a Black Market AK-M with flatline?

[wise swallow]

in PVE?

[compact quail]

yeah in pve

[tulip charm]

uh honestly just pick what you like

[wise swallow]

not bighorn tbh

[compact quail]

I like the bighorn a lot, but if the AK-M is slightly better i'll probably use it because it's easier to control the recoil

albeit they both have almost 0 kick usually (thanks M&K lol)

[tulip charm]

akm is not bad now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wise swallow]

if you like BH go ahead

just no native CHC and kinda meh talent in PVE

[upper gale]

bro this eq mask with 2 reds litro wont drop

[vestal ibex]

Electrique?

[upper gale]

ye

[vestal ibex]

Why would you want that tho?

[upper gale]

its a pvp smg build

[vestal ibex]

Sounds like a wasted brand imo

[upper gale]

its not

if u build it right

+30% smg

with the chest plate with companion for 20% dmg weapon

with a bag with also 20%

along with everythin else

[vestal ibex]

Guess CHC and CHD will just take and sit this one out.

[upper gale]

they good too but this better

[vestal ibex]

Sure.

[upper gale]

ill built it and we can 1v1 then 🙂

[vestal ibex]

Sure, I'll throw some build together tonight. Let me know in a week when you get your item.

[upper gale]

wont be a week but alr

i wouldnt need to finish it to drop u anyway

[vestal ibex]

Sure.

[magic pilot]

3pc electrique isn't bad in pvp but hunters fury will still win iirc

Actually just saw someone testing this comparing it to the standard smg pvp build

[vestal ibex]

I got no PVP builds, you gonna be around tonight? Maybe help me put together something from junk in my stash?

[magic pilot]

Yea I can help out

Should be off work by 9 cst

[vestal ibex]

Breh why the food so late

[magic pilot]

I'm the boss lol

[vestal ibex]

Can't wait for you to boss me around...

[glossy scarab]

the head guy in charge

[magic pilot]

Big man leaves last🤣

[magic pilot]

I'm ngl you probably have the regulus pvp build in your stash, the builds with less build cores I can see you already having

[vestal ibex]

I think I have a few loadouts on my raid character. Idk I keep tons of random things so who knows what the stash will hold.

[main stream]

Im building the regulas HH build, and Ive got an m700 carbon, instead of the regular one, any reason to farm out the non carbon?

[north berry]

For the strike build, should I go for either Eagle bearer or St Elmo's engine?

[vestal ibex]

Doesn't matter.

[main stream]

Cheers

[urban latch]

The base version has a higher base damage which is important with HH. If you want a msg reload then the sr1 is a clear upgrade over the m700 carbon, but the carbon is still very strong

[vestal ibex]

If you get a better one later just swap it out.

[flint wave]

elmo

[elfin token]

Question if you max out attributes in library do the gear max out if dropped as loot

I would like to know thank you

[glossy scarab]

no

[elfin token]

Is it possible to get ceska chest piece with Weapon damage, CHC, CHD and Obligation

[glossy scarab]

yeah if you get lucky

[elfin token]

And mod for gear can they be mixed out

[glossy scarab]

you cant optimize mods

[elfin token]

No I mean can they be found by being taxed out sorry

Maxed*

[glossy scarab]

yeah

[elfin token]

Does that mean that you need to do the same with St elmo's engine and Oroboros

[glossy scarab]

to get them maxed out?

[elfin token]

Sorry never got to do this on xbox

Yes

[glossy scarab]

you can optimize exotics to max if you have enough materials

but you can re configure them too and hope for this roll

[elfin token]

This is my Oroboros

[glossy scarab]

not bad

[elfin token]

There is a better pic

Why is mine is better

[vestal ibex]

When you inspect a weapon your brands and cores apply to the weapon. He may have been viewing it with a skill or some other build with less weapon damage.

[glossy scarab]

yeah its just the build

[elfin token]

Can I show you guy what my gear is at right now

And can you advise me of how to make quick resources

[main stream]

Can the regulas roll headshot damage in the minor perks, or is dttoc still the best

[glossy scarab]

different build

[vestal ibex]

DTTOOC is better overall.

[main stream]

Even for HH?

[vestal ibex]

Yurp. You've got so much HSD already so it's less effective.

[tulip charm]

Well if you want to can always get a second regulus to roll a dta

[main stream]

Cool Cheers

[elfin token]

I know chest and one more gear piece has headshot damage but this my gear so far

[vestal ibex]

Just so you know a pic of the build from when you enter your inventory is all most need.

[elfin token]

Ok

[upper gale]

this any good or na

[vestal ibex]

Super good start, obliterate on chest and fast hands on shotgun, beyond that shoot for 50% CHC if mid buff or 60% if close buff on coyotes.

[vestal ibex]

Looks like strikers PVP, just need like half stacks and you'll be good to fight really.

[upper gale]

Can it actually do decent tho against the smg meta

Or will smg just mince it

[elfin token]

I'm new to this stuff I'm so clueless about this but I have obliterate ready to change when I get another chest piece

[flint wave]

I'd rather use coyotes mask instead of catharsis tbh

[vestal ibex]

You need a certain amount of stacks, if you don't have them you will get clapped.

[flint wave]

that's my only change

[upper gale]

Ah ok

[elfin token]

What you mean souless13 about the 50% and 60% stuff ?????

[vestal ibex]

CHC(crit hit chance) is hard capped at 60%, coyotes mask gives you bonus CHC/CHD(crit hit damage) based on the distance you were from the last enemy. If you are in mid buff you'll gain 10% CHC so you'd min max by having 50% CHC, if you are close buff you'd gain 25% CHD so you'd wanna put your CHC up to 60%. You can see these numbers by going to your stats tab while in your inventory.

[elfin token]

Like this

[vestal ibex]

Yeah so that probably means you are over cap, how much IDK, I'd roll items away or swap to your shotgun and look at your ouro CHC total and math it out.

[flint wave]

On ouro u definitely want to be in 60% crit chance territory

[vestal ibex]

Hey if someone wants to beam stuff from 30 meters with an ouro who am I to stop them?

[flint wave]

I had some dude doing this exact thing with blue memento striker on legendary tidal mm a few weeks ago

[magic pilot]

I think ceska chest is higher dps since this has catharsis

[elfin token]

This is with shotgun

Did pic load

[vestal ibex]

Yur, so based on the pic of your ouro you'd be sitting at 60.8

Well wait idk if you have CHC mods on your shotty.

[elfin token]

No

[upper gale]

Im prob gon build it myself for solo pvp

[magic pilot]

Go with ceska chest if you use catharsis

[flint wave]

🔳 to mod weapon

[vestal ibex]

Yeah looking at your overview you don't even have shotgun mods.

[upper gale]

Yeah

[magic pilot]

@vestal ibex I'm getting off at 6-7 today just checked

[upper gale]

Or ill build this

[elfin token]

No I haven't

[flint wave]

pvps version of glass cannon

[magic pilot]

Lol

Glass is actually pretty common in pvp especially on pc

[flint wave]

does anyone but sniper users use it

[magic pilot]

Yes

Lot of people use the meta raid build in pvp

[elfin token]

Should I put some on my shotgun

[magic pilot]

Pretty sure sokolov+Walker is more dps but you lose companion chest

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, free stats yo

[elfin token]

Lol

[magic pilot]

Pretty common with rogue police to run glass

[elfin token]

This is the stat's now for shotty

This is St elmo's stat's

[vestal ibex]

Yeah just keep in mind that you'll wanna build around your main weapon, as you improve your build and rolls on all of it your CHC will rise and you'll need to constantly bring it back down to 60% so you aren't wasting stats.

[glossy scarab]

thats not a totally terrible chc for a shotgun for a secondary

[vestal ibex]

Or 50% in mid coyotes buff.

[elfin token]

So which should I use oros or elmo

[vestal ibex]

Yes.

[elfin token]

For now

[vestal ibex]

Shot answer either one. Longer answer which ever one you like more.

[flint wave]

One is a killer in short range the other is versatile at every range

[elfin token]

I like to switch every now and then

[vestal ibex]

Now go farm yo. Get the better gear/talents/rolls/mods/fill your library/have fun.

[elfin token]

Ok one more thing when my shd levels up high will I be able to last longer in heroic difficultly

[vestal ibex]

Really when you learn how to use cover and utilize your shield as well as knowing most of the spawns then your survivability will drastically increase.

[flint wave]

the only important thing in shd watch is crit chance tbh the rest is just minor improvements

[elfin token]

Should I use decoy and switch it between reviver

[wheat dew]

need a build as good as striker

[flint wave]

Decoy and reviver are the best secondary skills for dps yes

[elfin token]

So in a group use decoy and reviver when solo

[flint wave]

That works

[elfin token]

Ok I'll try my best would countdown be better to farm gear

Or summit

[flint wave]

cd

[elfin token]

Ok

[flint wave]

challenging difficulty minimum

[rich lotus]

Okay

[wide silo]

So with LMG best to use is a classical Striker Coyote Setup?

[granite girder]

Iam also looking for a exotic wepon with stats simmilar to the capacitor( Iam not looking for the engine or bighorn)

also i would like some opinion here

[vestal ibex]

Wai purples... You 100+ SHD... Regardless I'd go memento or ceska vigi backpack, coyotes if no memento. Just run king breaker I guess? Should try out tech with the linked laser tho, much better for stacks. Try out an acs fast hands, fast for stacking and good DPS.

[granite girder]

aight thx

[granite girder]

thats waht i had on hand dont judge

i mean the kneepads

[granite girder]

memento is in the plan aswell i actully have been farming for it the last few days

no luck tho but i got 7 other exotics along the way lol and 24 named items

[acoustic coral]

@vestal ibex I've completed the game, what now

[sudden fog]

Another run of incursion no Oreo and I had chest

[vestal ibex]

Solo legendary dua with it.

[normal sundial]

What specialization would be recommended for an AR or SMG DPS Build ?

[dull ermine]

Gunner

[normal sundial]

If I don't have that one unlocked yet ? 😄

[acoustic coral]

np, i'll do it after the dishes

[tulip charm]

Gunner Firewall

[dull ermine]

Out of the og 3 I recommend sharpshooter then only because of the grenades

[tulip charm]

Demo isnt bad aswell

[dull ermine]

But demolitionist gives u the best bang for ur buck

[normal sundial]

cheers ! I've started from scratch without boost so wasn't sure what to roll with 😄

[dull ermine]

Try each one for the spec weapons and see which one u like

If you want a tertiary weapon sort of run one that isn’t already in ur loadout. For instance I used to run sharpshooter for the sake of having a sniper rifle

But the crossbow doubles for that too

[normal sundial]

Cool, thanks !

Are SMG and AR builds still strong ? Remember at launch everyone runnig the chatterbox exotic or whatever it was called 😄

[tulip charm]

They are strong.

[pastel shard]

how does ongoing directive work with skill builds I dont get it like do you weapon buffs also goto your skills?

[glossy scarab]

even without skill tiers your turret (and drone?) dmg will increase when you have hollow points

[tulip charm]

only effects your gun

[pastel shard]

2 different answers 🙃

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you can always use try it and find out

[glossy scarab]

i might be wrong, they may have fixed that

[slate wedge]

you guys think unhinged is the best rpk talent in pvp on this build?

[tulip charm]

Imo optimist is better

[main stream]

Is the Hunters fury Regulas build still good?

[slate wedge]

yeah

[slate wedge]

ok thanks, thought so aswell

[lavish badger]

Is the Patriot collection still relevant or is Heartbreaker better?
Which build among them can you recommend for PVE?

[tulip charm]

Out of those 2 Heart is better

[acoustic coral]

@vestal ibex Legit question, why is HHF preferred over the high end (what I've often seen atleast)
I don't understand how you get close enough to enemies to actually get the HF buff without just getting shredded when you run red cores. And the shield is gone in 2 seconds anyways on Heroic - so what am I not understanding?

[haughty wraith]

Which skill would be better for group healing other than hive? Chem luncher or repair trap or healing seeker mine?

[vestal ibex]

Git gud

[urban latch]

Slightly higher damage once you build up HF stacks, but the main reason is if both builds are killing in 1 shot anyways, your better off getting some survivability from HFs armor and health on kill, as well as the CC effective

[acoustic coral]

I guess I just suck at playing close then, because when I can keep my distance with DCH I have no issue, when I get up close with HF (so I can get the damn buff) I end up saying hello to Charon (the ferryman of the Greek Underworld) more times than I'd like to admit

[urban latch]

Tbh I play both builds at primarily close range, but I've been used to playing close range and aggressive on red builds for a long time.

Being close range means getting to enemies before they can run around and spread out, which is when they really get dangerous

[glossy scarab]

sometimes i run defender drone with an HHF build just to help me get close enough when they're already shooting at me. it doesnt last very long but once you get the first kill or two things get a bunch easier.

[hexed steppe]

Run tech/memento/artificer and shield is a lot stronger.

[solar berry]

tbh, TP did get a lowkey buff

[upper gale]

how do i get

[shy willow]

Paradise lost

[upper gale]

that the only way?

[shy willow]

Yes

[upper gale]

ffs

[shy willow]

It's not that difficult if it makes you feel any better

[upper gale]

can u not get it in caches?

[shy willow]

No

[upper gale]

kk, i guess i gotta find ppl to run incursions with xd

how rare is it to get/drop

[lyric prism]

1%

[rich cosmos]

10% off of final box, 1% every boss

[upper gale]

ah okay

im guessing just lfg in here for it then

to find someone

[rich cosmos]

4 bosses in total so technically its 4%

Other exotics have a smaller chance to still drop off the bosses too

[flint wave]

moss doesn't drop ouro

[upper gale]

oki

[rich cosmos]

3%

[rich cosmos]

Could’ve sworn he did

[upper gale]

best place to find ppl in this dc?

[wise swallow]

for what

[upper gale]

public q seems aids

incursion

[wise swallow]

https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/1160945846100185098

[upper gale]

noone responded to me 😦

[shy willow]

I was shook when I found out he doesnt count as a boss

Just a named enemy

[sudden fog]

U done your incursion key

[shy willow]

Not yet

[sudden fog]

I got capacitor

[shy willow]

Wooo

[sudden fog]

Someone then dropped me another one

[upper gale]

anyone wana do some incursion tmrw

[sudden fog]

Buy an Xbox

[delicate solstice]

Can anyone give me advice on dz builds

[upper gale]

i got one also XD

[upper gale]

can send u a rlly good smg build im workin on

[wise swallow]

whats your play style

solo or in a group?

[sudden fog]

I’ll run one right now

I NEED Oreo

[wise swallow]

high armour? low armour? do you want regen?

[sudden fog]

it’s not a want anymore

[shy willow]

Beware he an FTC

[sudden fog]

It’s fine I done this shit too many times

[wise swallow]

do you want haz pro

[sudden fog]

I was playing with a 2pc hotshot before

[shy willow]

Wtf😭

[sudden fog]

With some weird armour regen stuff

Might have to go on now it’s late but incursion fun

[delicate solstice]

@wise swallow well I haven't hit dz yet un division 2 but I play aggressively

[wise swallow]

your gonna have to tell me alot more about your needs for me to recommend something decent

[magic pilot]

Standard ar pvp build

[wise swallow]

can just make a basic AR crit build for now ig.
coyote, Ceska, Picarios, foxes, groupo, fenris

[magic pilot]

Like these

[wise swallow]

idk what the person who made this is smoking using groupo over foxes

[delicate solstice]

This is usually what I run

[wise swallow]

uhh

not horrible but not good

[strange wigeon]

does anyone know if unbreakable got even more buggy with the newest update ?
Before the last update it felt like it triggered about 70-80% of the time, but after the new update it feels like 40-50%,
sometimes the icon doesnt show up,
often seems like it doesnt give the full 95% armor back

[wise swallow]

UB doesnt give 95% back in PVP and as far as the bug goes idk i havent used UB for a while. it felt odd and like it didnt proc reliability before patch 20.1

[strange wigeon]

yeah, just feels like its even more unreliable now

[flint wave]

do u have armor regen in ur build

r u playing conflict

[magic pilot]

Hate to break it to you but grupo wins against foxes on that setup

Fox is 8% Dtooc for 15% chd and 6% chc

[wise swallow]

you have 44% chance already. with EB thats 54 and famas thats 59

6% is useless

so 15% CHD vs 8% dtooc

[magic pilot]

That's not right lol

[solar berry]

DPS with EB xD not including vigi on BP

[wise swallow]

oh wait thats pic your right

[magic pilot]

3 6% rolls on gear, 10 from ceska, 15 from attachments 10 from watch for 59

[strange wigeon]

armor regen no and conflict yes

[magic pilot]

On coyotes setup you want fox, with catharsis you don't

[wise swallow]

effectively its 27% CHD vs 8% DTOOC

[magic pilot]

Yes

[wise swallow]

thats assuming you replace CHD mod with CHC

[solar berry]

more dps if HB pcs was red

[magic pilot]

Yea or roll fox with chc

[wise swallow]

I still dont know how to feel about that

[magic pilot]

It's weird, if you play in a team with coyotes I would go fox

[wise swallow]

tbh id never use cath in the first place

overrated as fuck imo

[magic pilot]

Raucey would agree with you

I think it depends, we ran a lot of 1v1 testing coyotes build vs catharsis. When catharsis player had high stacks or played in the cloud well enough they would win

If coyotes player kept mid buff and stopped catharsis from pushing too much they won

[wise swallow]

I just dont like exotics that rely on you getting mag dumped before you can get any form of damage

[magic pilot]

Easier to use in dz, definitely not worth in conflict

Conflict generally runs less blues anyway

[wise swallow]

and every cath playerr ive ran into was dead before it was ever stacked to a meaningful degree

[magic pilot]

Console it's a lot easier to use since peoples aim sucks to begin with, it's not as common on pc

[wise swallow]

sure it works in 1v1's but attempt to face trade 30 shots from 4 people. your either gonna die or be forced to kit with 4 players pushing you

[magic pilot]

Catharsis pairs really well with matador, the bonus armor making it easy to build the mask stacks without taking "real" dmg

[wise swallow]

id rather just face trade with upfront dmg then have to trade shots and rely on metador bonus armour to get a small increase in DPS

how much is the trade off with cath over coyote

[magic pilot]

The increase in dps is substantial

Near max stacks it will outdps coyotes close buff despite having no crit rolls or a red core

If catharsis had a red core or better attributes it would be the best mask in the game by far

On average it's slightly lower that coyotes with mid buff iirc

[solar berry]

build isnt optimized but done. almost 10 mil dps EB @wise swallow

better now. but dam... its beautiful

[tulip charm]

Damn 10mil in pvp is crazy

[solar berry]

pvp is nerfed unless its invaded DZ

[wise swallow]

10 mill DPS but you die in 0.4s

[solar berry]

thats maxed obliterate stacks but all headshots only xD

and if vigi is still up as well

[solar berry]

lvl 18 Expertise EB

[cyan drift]

quick question, what is this supposed to do?

[wise swallow]

prove that even after 2 PTS phases and a patch MSV is fixing useless shit rather then what is actually broken

[solar berry]

this is from patch notes

before this patch was this

now its 0% xD. its more nerfed

[lyric prism]

...and you thought the Falcon Lost patch was bad...

for those that remember.

[solar berry]

quickly to fix the efficient chest talent to make it useless than 50% to fixed flat 25% across the board for insta kits. but cant fix Aegis BP talent

[wise swallow]

2

2 phases

[solar berry]

o that. it was awful till they finally fixed it

[wise swallow]

AND a whole patch

aegis still not fixed.

[shy willow]

Project dissolve

[solar berry]

they had project resolve also. and it still broke the game xD

[wise swallow]

efficient fixed within 2 weeks.

[lyric prism]

that was the big 'we have listened and redone everything' in TD1, 1.31?

[wise swallow]

1 month aegis still not fixed

[solar berry]

i said that Odder xD

[wise swallow]

can really feel how much the devs cared about the new gearset by not fixing it when its a well known issue

totally not adding useless gearsets

to pad as content

[solar berry]

atleast give me my AB gearset back, fuh man

[lyric prism]

given how many gearsets there are and how old the game is now, sort of hard to come up with something new unless they give in and just make repops of TD1 sets like people want.

which would be instant meta.

[wise swallow]

dont make something new. and if your going to make something new, atleast fucking fix it within a fucking month.

[shy willow]

Sentry and D3

[wise swallow]

tbh im just mad about eff and using aegis as a reason to hate MSV but they deserve it

[shy willow]

Hell all the div 1 sets were good

[lyric prism]

Lonestar was my go to. just imagine that on Golden Bullet.

[solar berry]

all i care about is AB. i got my striker after decades

[wise swallow]

and determined

[lyric prism]

blip head go squish.

[wise swallow]

they should add some classified sets

[solar berry]

was a thing in Div2 Y1

[wise swallow]

even if its just 1. make them incursion and raid exclusive with low drop chance

[solar berry]

i want TD2 Y1 again. the best days

[shy willow]

An incursion exclusive gear set sounds fun

[wise swallow]

make it so you cant recal them or optimize. make a set that is extremely hard to get but also very strong.

[shy willow]

Perhaps not classified in that sense but make the backpack and chest actually worth using

[solar berry]

so it can be nerfed to the ground on live game from PTS again

[shy willow]

Problem is very strong in this game is just pure dps

[lyric prism]

6p classified sets? no. 4p, yes.

[shy willow]

Very strong on div1 was like any classy set lol

[wise swallow]

how it should be

hard to get but very strrong

maybe not to the degree of d1

[lyric prism]

6p is 'we have no idea what to do so have more numbers'

[wise swallow]

im just bored of the current meta

[solar berry]

Div2 had 6p gearsets in Y1 because the game is alike div1. now its 4pc gearsets, long pvp ttks, fun asf. now its low ttks and high dps

[shy willow]

I dont think it will ever change

If they power creep striker it’d be an absolutely stupid amount of powerful

[lyric prism]

well yea but any game gets like that after a while unless its intentionally nerfed into the ground on all fronts. then no one will play bc they can't feel powerful.

[shy willow]

But if they nerf it people will cry about it

[lyric prism]

like the shield meta for so long.

now a new meta has some up.

[wise swallow]

if heartland wasnt a psyop i wouldnt care about this. but i can already tell heartland is gonna be god awful

or it wont exist at all

latter is more likely

[solar berry]

shield meta made me quit pvp

same with foam meta

[cyan drift]

the corner thing has been fixed to my knowledge, or at least will be soon if it isn't yet

[shy willow]

Conceptually it doesnt seem bad

[wise swallow]

i will not believe it untill it releases

bro is leaking NDA covered stuff in public discord

lol

[shy willow]

Yeah isnt it still under nda

[solar berry]

yes

[shy willow]

😬

[lyric prism]

hell idk anymore. there was so much talked about on reddit and forums.

if it was, oops. I say no more.

I will say the game needs some serious work.

[wise swallow]

im still under NDA. i played it almost a year ago

[solar berry]

i would talk about HL but NDA is a scary thing

[wise swallow]

reddit try to actual read what they sign challenge

[shy willow]

(Impossible)

[lyric prism]

yea then [REDACTED]

still, it needs work, like serious work. I was bored.

[solar berry]

the funny part, they told you the rules in their offical discord and in the game of what the NDA is and what it contains

[wise swallow]

i didnt even bother joining the discord lol

[solar berry]

people is just blind as a bat nowadays

[shy willow]

Everyone complaining about how complicated tinkering is when they give you a whole ass tutorial ingame of virtually everything

[wise swallow]

i just have enough intuition to know that talking about the game that i signed an NDA to play is probably a no no untill the game releases

[solar berry]

facts

[shy willow]

Resurgence is no longer under NDA

[solar berry]

havent been under NDA in a hot min

[wise swallow]

what was that one ubisoft FPS game

like 2 years ago

[lyric prism]

is that the mobile one?

[solar berry]

mobile div game

[wise swallow]

COD type game or something

[shy willow]

Ye

[solar berry]

Div1 and 2 combined basically

[shy willow]

Ah x defiant

We’ve had like nothing on that for ages but it was in public beta

[solar berry]

XD should be dropping soon

[wise swallow]

yea that one. that game out yet?

[solar berry]

not yet

[drifting panther]

"Tom Clancy xdefiant"

[shy willow]

Everyone called it the cod killer but it has t even been released yet

Now the finals has stolen everyone lol

[wise swallow]

please tell me your not a "its not tom clancy" nerd

[solar berry]

not TC anymore, just XD

[wise swallow]

and it is now dying again

[lyric prism]

Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave at a million kilometers an hour, what do you think powers the bioreactor the BT stole.

[shy willow]

Its already dying?

[wise swallow]

FPS games come and go so quickly

[shy willow]

The gameplay loop in games like call of duty are boring to me tbh

[solar berry]

thats only steam xD

[wise swallow]

yea but 50% drop in player base a month just on steam is massive

[solar berry]

HD2 is stealing players lately

[lyric prism]

same can be said about TD1/2 or any game. Steam don't count though. CoD has always been a console majority game.

[solar berry]

yes^

[shy willow]

Yeah hell divers seems super popular

[drifting panther]

I'm just joking

[rich cosmos]

Happens when you make good games

[drifting panther]

Ik I'm just joking about it

[rich cosmos]

Too bad its an exclusive

[wise swallow]

HD2, palworld, lethal company. lots of indie devs making really good games now. nice to see

[shy willow]

It is?

[lyric prism]

helldivers feels like warframe w/o the flying and more 1980's bullets everywhere.

[rich cosmos]

Not on xbox

[shy willow]

I’ve been playing trepang lately its great

[shy willow]

Oof

[drifting panther]

I loved that last year

[solar berry]

i mean... it used to be. idk what happened. as long it doesnt affect anything, which i doubt

[drifting panther]

I'm waiting on the sword dlc

[shy willow]

Indie games these days have more passion poured into them than all the AAA nonsense

[drifting panther]

Server technician @shy willow

[shy willow]

Yeah I hear they have a story dlc on the way

[solar berry]

next year

[drifting panther]

I love that ost as well as ddos

[shy willow]

Store page says 2024 Oof

[drifting panther]

Ddos just sounds chaotic

[solar berry]

for div2?

[drifting panther]

With those british sof guys

[drifting panther]

Trepang 2

[solar berry]

idk that game xD, my b

[drifting panther]

It's basically fear

[shy willow]

On steroids

[solar berry]

mmm

[drifting panther]

Agreed

[solar berry]

on steam?

[drifting panther]

You can just kick someone in the face and they fly 50km across the room

And yeah on steam. It's on console too iirc

[shy willow]

Should be yeah

[drifting panther]

I played it on steam

[solar berry]

looks cool. buts not my type of game tbh

im waiting on TFD to drop

[shy willow]

Main criticism from people is the story but it seems pretty intriguing so far with all the lore tidbits

[solar berry]

so i can delete warframe

[cyan drift]

thinking about putting all the other rolls into CHD, since SMGs have great CHC, it'll give me something

right now it's on skill haste but I don't need it for the artificer hive

[hushed saddle]

Hi! Is the construction of the Rigger good? I'm trying to get back into the game and make my first build.

[urban latch]

its not really worth using

[cyan drift]

@urban latch I'll go into a legendary with you, this is actually hilariously OP

the decoy stays up for 6 minutes on its own and only robot dogs look at you if you shoot them, nobody else does (maybe chongas idk)

[hushed saddle]

What do you recommend I do? for pve.

[cyan drift]

depends on how you like to play

or what you'd want to try

though making a DPS build just to farm for other builds is a good idea

[urban latch]

check the pinned google doc, bunch of build guides you can look into

[cyan drift]

also that

[hushed saddle]

I like that idea. And thanks, I'll check out the fixatives. @urban latch

[clever merlin]

with the recent buff to brazos you can get 105 rounds on elmo lol

[cyan drift]

ye it's fun

97 round ouroboros

475 round GR9 or whatever it was

[clever merlin]

I wonder what would be better on f2000 then the shield splinter or strained

[dull ermine]

Strained

[clever merlin]

Yeah I'm thinking with optimist I won't take advantage all the time

[shy willow]

Shield splinterer is good for pvp

[onyx sage]

shield splinterer is also better when you can headshot consistently

[clever merlin]

wait how do you get 97 you do TP too or 3rd attribute mag size?

[cyan drift]

both

[clever merlin]

both brazos and TP right

[cyan drift]

yea

[clever merlin]

ninjabike im assuming

[cyan drift]

it's hardly useful but it gets funny magazine numbers

umbra x3 or strikers x3 is very useful though

[pulsar vapor]

yes I'm guessing TP too

Ninja etc

[rich lotus]

Is shield splint best AR stats wise atm or is there any other alternative very close to it? I still use famas with measured

[shy willow]

Strained/fast hands f2k also famas

EB, G36 other good options

[rich lotus]

I've had no luck with EB in dz and I honestly cant be bothered to set a whole team up just for a raid :(

[rich lotus]

Would famas with strained be on equal footing with the shiled splint?

Min max wise

[shy willow]

You can just find a group and hop in you don't need to set one up

[shy willow]

Depends on the situation

[normal sundial]

Hey lads. I am looking for a fresh 40 SMG build so I can start farming stuff.

[shy willow]

If you're wanting to use smgs I'd look into hunters fury

There should be a build in the pinned spreadsheet

[acoustic coral]

@urban latch @glossy scarab @hexed steppe @vestal ibex Thanks for the tips. I'll look into it - might have to reduce it to challenging till I learn the playstyle - I somewhat keep my distance with DCH which doesn't work for HHF. I got my ass kicked on Roosevelt Invaded because of how spread out they are by default

[flint wave]

damn the whole council got mentioned

[round zinc]

The Pillar Men

[acoustic coral]

It was sleepy time for me when they replied and I didn't want to individually reply the same thing to them ^^

[onyx sage]

roosevelt is a really big map, HHF ideally is only used in smaller maps

either that or you're in a group with other HHF runners and you all have spawns to camp

[sudden fog]

Hmm

[devout iris]

Anyone got an updated regulus build here?

[sudden fog]

Someone run incursion with me

[acoustic coral]

I'm learning more and more that I picked the worst mission of almost all to test out how it felt in comparison lmao
No wonder I got annoyed

[slate nest]

The 4 Horsemen of Division 2

[flint wave]

You should play hhf on stovepipe manhunt If you want the true experience

of lobotomy

[devout iris]

Worse if it's on heroic with directives on

[hexed steppe]

I wouldn't dch on a hhf anyways. You really want hh chest and dh bag with talent/mem. High end yeah dch slots in without affecting the brand mix.

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, what I was saying is I keep my distance with the high-end DCH build - a playstyle that doesn't work for HHF

[hexed steppe]

Oic. 🍻

[onyx sage]

DCH still does work with HHF, it's just top end damage that you're lacking but initial kill and HF backpack make runs a lot more predictable actually

[flint wave]

what no memento does to a mf

[onyx sage]

for some scenarios like lincoln memorial speedrun i recommend DCH HHF over vigi HHF just for the predictability

[acoustic coral]

Too many variations. I don't want to think, just farm gear from guide then play