td2-build-advice

[shy willow]

Honestly Devs should add a big massive warning for people who are trying to go to meret estate or any legendary for the first time

And I already know people are still gonna MM for it regardless

[solar berry]

required 1k shd lvl for leg missions xD

[shy willow]

And a big massive warning that discovery doesn't drop shit

[sudden fog]

Brooo I got the same founders bulwark guy

[shy willow]

Bruh

[shy willow]

[tulip charm]

Honestly i wouldn’t mind a shd lock on some difficult content

[sudden fog]

No please

[solar berry]

should be a thing or 500 shd lvl

[tulip charm]

But 1k is overkill

Like atleast 150

[solar berry]

250 atleast

min req

[sudden fog]

Dunno man

Some low levels are good

[solar berry]

ninja BP i get but momento... wtf

[wise swallow]

blue rolls and mods to lol

[shy willow]

Honestly instead of a shd lock just have the player flagged on the social menu as being an FTC

[tulip charm]

I bet they’re aok mods xd

[solar berry]

is it atleast haz pro?

[pastel pasture]

lol

[hybrid ravine]

Quick question so I just got the memento backpack from a crate I’m thinking it putting it with a striker’s set or heartbreaker would any of those two sets be any good

[tulip charm]

They’re fine if you so solo

[sudden fog]

18k health hazard pro protect from elite

[shy willow]

Absolute yikes

[solar berry]

eww health

[sudden fog]

Yeah I give up

[tulip charm]

Man I feel bad for console players

Having to experience mm

[shy willow]

It's alright brother you'll pull through

[sudden fog]

Sometimes it’s fun

[solar berry]

move to PC lol

[shy willow]

Xbox does have a built in LFG function but it's pretty 50/50

[sudden fog]

Like yesterday

[shy willow]

Sometimes teams are just as bad premade

[shy willow]

The PTSD kicking in rn

[sudden fog]

That run was amazing

Might just go fix up my striker build since some of my piece are like 12% weapon damage

[shy willow]

I had to repeat commands like 5 times and they still didn't listen

[sudden fog]

“Shoot drone”

[tulip charm]

Dw I did play xbox but thats was early wony days

Idk about now

[sudden fog]

@shy willow do u run striker chest or not

[solar berry]

new generation of players lol

[shy willow]

LFG was relatively recent I think

[shy willow]

On every encounter after turrets yes

[sudden fog]

Is that beta backpack thing rare or not

[tulip charm]

What backpack

[sudden fog]

The hanger

[tulip charm]

Ig?

[sudden fog]

Then coyotes and grupo?

[shy willow]

Pre tanker

Tanker and beyond

[solar berry]

EB is so sexy asf

[wise swallow]

no

[shy willow]

Innit

[solar berry]

huh?

[shy willow]

Huh

[wise swallow]

so sexy innit bruv

[shy willow]

Yeah famalam

[wise swallow]

are those the shitter gloves or the other ones

[solar berry]

you saying aint it? im confused asf rn

[shy willow]

Nah bloody knuckles not the other piece of garbage

[shy willow]

Isn't it= innit

[wise swallow]

youve never talked to a biritsh person?

[solar berry]

o

[sudden fog]

Ffs need those gloves shouldn’t of didmantled

[solar berry]

yea but they sound very close to American tho

the accent isnt strong

[tulip charm]

Its fine to not run it

Naval need all that damage to carry mm

[shy willow]

Yeah bloody knuckles is only there for beeg damage to bosses

They're not much use on tanker but I CBA to mess about hotswapping everything

[sudden fog]

What about rugged gauntlets

Might give these a try

[wise swallow]

absolute horrid shit

[shy willow]

Don't bother with that trash

[wise swallow]

just decon it

even if you have capped exotic cops its not even worth the 1 inventory space

[sudden fog]

I deconned bloody knuckles didn’t think they were useful

[tulip charm]

They’re niche

[sudden fog]

Omg please

[shy willow]

Yeah the only proper use is on incursion cuz you're close enough to proc

[sudden fog]

Please just one more good player

[solar berry]

who needs health? xD

[sudden fog]

Bro just pulled us back to the nightmare of an incursion

[wise swallow]

DPS? 0. Health? infinite

[sudden fog]

Oh and he has a skill build brilliant

[solar berry]

lol

[obsidian scaffold]

Bloody knuckles with spotter and versatile has the potential to two tap in dz with a shotty while having 2mil armour

[solar berry]

i still remembered your reaction Doomz

[shy willow]

If it's an oxidiser then it's alright

[solar berry]

3 mil total xD

a real Tank build

[shy willow]

Bro will be tanking like senator Armstrong

[sudden fog]

Turret and healer hive

[shy willow]

Oh ffs

[sudden fog]

Bro this lag is immense my eu ass ain’t for us servers

[solar berry]

move to NA CatRee

[hollow solstice]

any dz builds to recom? one’s that can use ouroboros/st elmos

[solar berry]

can be more with health rolled on every pc buts thats doing to much work and effort

[shy willow]

If it makes you feel any better I live in Singapore and have to play US cuz Asia is dead

[obsidian scaffold]

4 piece striker with a sokolov unbreakable chest and matador for Oreo

[hollow solstice]

sorry for asking, but what is “Matador”? I feel like I’ve seen it before

[obsidian scaffold]

Named walker backpack

Dz exclusive or from caches

[hollow solstice]

Oh I see, thank you

[obsidian scaffold]

A normal walker bag with adrenaline will also work if you don’t have the matador

[solar token]

so am i understanding correctly

the only way to get a perfect attribute is to actually roll one in a loot drop

you can't like

combine little ones in the library

[shy willow]

You can get a shit one optimise it to max then extract it but that's a huge waste

[shy willow]

Nope

[sudden fog]

Let’s see how this wright goes

[onyx sage]

time to make it wright

[flint wave]

after you clean out the moss

[sudden fog]

Yeah it’s going terribly

[solar token]

so if i have a coyote's mask and it has 5.3% crit chance, and i want to get it to 6%, i need to optimize it, and to optimize it i need to have 6% crit chance in recal library

[sudden fog]

Missed him 2 times with water😭

[solar token]

and the only way to get 6% in recal library is to actually roll one and extract it

[onyx sage]

but you can get it from any mask

[solar token]

yes

but need to get lucky one way or another

[onyx sage]

do countdown and you get tons of stuff

[solar token]

need to find an active clan lol

[sudden fog]

Dumb mf just killed himself with his skills

[solar token]

does difficulty or different activities or anything impact how likely you are to get better attributes?

[shy willow]

Not this shit again💀

[shy willow]

Directives affect chance to drop targeted loot, difficulty increases average loot quality

So if you want better attributes run heroic/chal

[copper holly]

I'd do anything for a max chd kneepads haha

[shy willow]

Target kneepads and you'll get one eventually

[copper holly]

Yh I have, I've done 10 countdowns

Still haven't got one

On heroic and chal

[sudden fog]

Another incursion done no oreo

[shy willow]

I believe in you man

[copper holly]

I got that on first try when I had no idea what it even was lol

[sudden fog]

Prob gonna finish 2 more then I’m finished for the night had like 3 hours of sleep yesterday

Bro I still have that video of the guy who was using that tank build saying it was better than striker

[sudden fog]

😭

[copper holly]

😂😂

[sudden fog]

And now I can’t find a mm

[tulip charm]

Do you not have alt chars?

[shy willow]

SHD 150 or something

[tulip charm]

Ah

[sudden fog]

177 actually

[shy willow]

[flint wave]

[solar berry]

more base health now. 3.2m total HP

[solar berry]

i have more xD

[magic pilot]

This is my team buff build

[shy willow]

One piece 511 gives 511 times the power

[solar berry]

3 mil total with extra red and yellow core xD

basically. 1.9 mil arm / 1.1mil health with 3 yellows / 2 reds/ 6 blues

[wise swallow]

3 yellow cuz why not

[solar berry]

1-2 yellow tier people cant up me now

[magic pilot]

Could run tech too

[solar berry]

true true

[gusty tapir]

any good blue set?

[shy willow]

Depends what you want it for

[gusty tapir]

Well for Summit Heroic. And maybe starting to do some legendary mission.

I am using mantis decoy at the moment

[shy willow]

Then not really

[gusty tapir]

Then how do you kill 4 hunter at heroic full red?

[shy willow]

To be blunt, by being good

And you won't ever face 4 hunters at the same time solo outside the riddles

[gusty tapir]

To be fair then more then just ''being good''

2 at most in the summit as solo

[shy willow]

Being good is all there is to it; using cover, positioning, hitting shots

Scorpio also for an instant win button

[gusty tapir]

so your telling me that I can use any weapon with any gear set and still win in this game just by being good?

[shy willow]

https://youtu.be/bNtU3BIEkhM

[gusty tapir]

anyway thank for you help

[solar berry]

mmmm it may be good

[magic pilot]

It's not

At least turn off GeForce for screenshots

[solar berry]

i use the snipping tool xD

[solar berry]

smh people react but cant say why its bad lol

[flint wave]

It uses ninjabike backpack(critical mistake)

[solar berry]

whats wrong with ninja BP

[flint wave]

backpack talents too valuable and 2nd brand bonuses usually aren't that good

[solar berry]

explain?

[tulip charm]

He just told you the reason?

Also what is the purpose of the build above

[solar berry]

its trash so it serves no purpose. its gone from my stash now

[tulip charm]

????????

[flint wave]

lol

[solar berry]

bad build gets all dismantled. due to ninja bp. poof gone

[tulip charm]

Damn you dismatled oreo aswell

[solar berry]

yea. the whole build is bad

back to my wife again, EB

[flint wave]

[solar berry]

funny part i killed 2 people in one life during conflict with that build, tanking shots and hives. but since ya said the build is bad. its all gone now

the past is gone forever

[tulip charm]

Uh actually we called ninja bad not the build

You called the build bad

[solar berry]

build comes with ninja. equals to bad build

the build purpose was to take hella dmg as i do amazing crits. ninja BP is the core of it

[tulip charm]

Well if it works for you then keep

personally Im not a fan of nbb

[solar berry]

its gone. gotta grind it again

to much work

[mortal vapor]

How good is the Iron Lung? I just dropped it in free roam

[tawdry flare]

It is a very good lmg

[solar berry]

xD striker eb for the win

[rocky rain]

How do I get blueprint for Uzina backpack?

[hexed steppe]

heroic controlpoints , out of the cache. setup and closer named uzina blueprints. it should still work

[hushed gorge]

Is this dtoc?

Whats the 3rd attribute?

[frigid dust]

anyone know a good build with pm dark winter?

[versed summit]

it's just an SMG. Any SMG build works fine

[elfin token]

Finally got my full gear now yay

It not fully optimised yet

[drifting panther]

Rugged gauntlets is useless

[tulip charm]

wdym useless

They can be turned into components!

[spark lichen]

Whats the ideal total chc and chd

[tulip charm]

50%+ chc and all the chd you can put after

[spark lichen]

So 53 chc and 145 chd is good?

[tulip charm]

If you arent running coyotes then do 60%

yeah that sounds about right

[spark lichen]

I am running coyotes

[tulip charm]

thats fine

[spark lichen]

Im using a st elmo strikers build

I got st elmos yesterday and without any optimization has already made my best build i have

[drifting panther]

As well mosquito

[magic pilot]

Useful until I get them proficient

[tulip charm]

Yeah its an very easy build that gets alot gun. btw you're missing around 25 chd but that shouldnt matter unless you're min maxing.

[distant cloud]

Hello friends. me and my buddy are fairly new to the game. We reached lvl 40 and around lvl 20 watch lvl.. What is the best starter build? and also how to we progress faster watch levels?

[spark lichen]

Yeah i haven’t optimized anything bc im a returning player and i dont understand the new tinkering

[spark lichen]

I used basic builds like red dps or skill builds. Dont go for anything too complicated because you will be missing a lot of the needed items

[tulip charm]

Pinned comments and go to build spreadsheet and pick your favorite

[spark lichen]

Is this a good build

[copper holly]

Do you know for the ceska vest do you put two crit hit damages and then crit hit chance mod?

[wise swallow]

Gear cannot have repeat attributes

You would do crit chance then crit dmg

[copper holly]

Ok nice one

But do I put chd mod or chance for it

[wise swallow]

Build and stat dependant

[copper holly]

For striker

[wise swallow]

Before adding mods what CHC are you?

[copper holly]

37

[wise swallow]

Chc mods

[copper holly]

Ok

[hazy steeple]

Whats your chd?

[copper holly]

141.9% but haven't maxed out the vest yet

[hazy steeple]

Usually you'd go for CHD mods on gear, as it's 12% vs 6% for CHC.
the guns use chc since there's no real difference in %-wise.

[wise swallow]

Personally I roll all gear set stuff (in a crit build) to CHD and have chc mods (as many as I need to reach crit goal) but that is entirely up to you.

[wise swallow]

5 blue 1 red build. Fenris + 10hsd or foxes (2nd roll is haz pro) better? It’s entirely hsd and haz pro

[hazy steeple]

Personal preference comes into it, but the rule of "chc on guns, chd on gear for mods" is a good general one to follow throughout the game.
elmo actually helps it out with having so much chc on it natively.

With 20% on it natively, having 37% in total means they likely have some space for chc on that gear of theirs too.

[magic pilot]

For pvp?

[wise swallow]

Doesn’t matter no?

Assume target is out of cover

But yea PvP

[drifting panther]

however, i had to trade a providence for a chainkiller because my luck was shit.

[wise swallow]

My haz pro build has perfect efficient and adrush but pretty similar

[magic pilot]

Figured it'd be close

[drifting panther]

@vestal ibex i made my build

[magic pilot]

Not sure if contractors would be better I have both @wise swallow

[vestal ibex]

How is it so far?

[wise swallow]

I don’t have a good contractors piece unfortunately

Not for haz pro

[magic pilot]

The non hazpro version I use contractors, fox, picaros, fenris, providence and Habsburg, Walker could be ok

If you use matador

[drifting panther]

its neat.

its just the shotgun part, i dunno what to do since

wait a minute. i forgot i can actually make it more accurate

when i pick up more recon data i'll check it out

[magic pilot]

Aim high so most of the pellets miss lol

[wise swallow]

Already got all my other builds done. Don’t use HSD outside of haz pro. Wanna use perfect efficient while it’s still strong

[drifting panther]

thats what i did

so i think i'll just target torsos

[magic pilot]

I'd go with fenris

[solar berry]

yes on vector and EB have DTTOOC

its also a crit build

[wise swallow]

Fuck

[drifting panther]

here

[magic pilot]

They are probably both super close in dmg lol

[hushed gorge]

Thank you.
Whats your CHC/CHD Ratio?

[drifting panther]

anyway i'm gonna try out my iron lung

[solar berry]

50 chc/ 120 chd

can be more CHD, if grupo and ceska on the build

[solar berry]

saw this random build

[sly gulch]

This build already feels real good with the event. Need a new Holster with a crit chance roll and then this is pretty much set with a bit of optimization. What weird off meta shit are you all running?

[pastel charm]

Then im gonna get 3 emptess, 2 hannu, 1 wyvern, combined arms and kinetic momentum

Shall i run this with gunner or technician

[sly gulch]

I actually dig what he's going for if I guess the minors right. Better ways to go about it but I like the thought.

[sly gulch]

Assuming Capacitor, most would trade a yellow core for a red and roll Tech for either +10% SD or RS.. Otherwise AoK is all you're really getting with Gunner.

[solar berry]

i like ninja BP as an off meta, everyone hates and shits on Ninja BP. so no point of running it anymore. works amazing for me. now its in the past, never to be seen again

[sly gulch]

I personally love NBB and it can work with so many different builds and especially the events.

[sudden fog]

ninja in d1 clear

[pastel charm]

Whats capacitor? Also ill be using drone n turret

[hazy steeple]

The issue with Ninja is that it takes up a slot where a backpack could be, which is one of the highest damage buffs you can get if running high-end, or otherwise necessary depending on the build/gearset.

[solar berry]

its bad because no BP talent. thats everyone reason behind Ninja BP

[hazy steeple]

If you don't want to discuss the issue that's fine, but don't complain about people disliking it then ignoring the reason why they do.

It's okay if you like an item despite it having issues. I like the Backfire.

[sly gulch]

I agree. But if you're prioritizing utility it has a place. Not all builds need to be meta for all content.

[solar berry]

thats the build i was running. apparently its bad because Ninja BP

[hazy steeple]

What utility though? Sure it gets you other brandset bonuses, but you lose out on the attribute slots and the Talent from that one.

[pastel charm]

^^^^^^

[solar berry]

i can get a ninja BP build to have 120k arm regen xD

[hazy steeple]

@pastel charm Capacitor is an exotic AR, you obtain your first one by completing Challenging whilst in the Summit.

[sudden fog]

is sniper build viable in pvp

[sly gulch]

I have enough time in this game that I just experiemnt with random drops.

[pastel charm]

Ah

So i should go with technician

[sly gulch]

I would.

[hazy steeple]

How many Skill Tiers do you already have?

You don't need more than 6 in total.

[pastel charm]

Ive just completed the campaign, gonna get striker's first to grind countdown after i unlock technican

What rolls shall i get on my pieces for the best build with capacitor?

[solar berry]

my fav pvp build. but ninja BP is gone from my stash. its an off meta but worked amazing

44 chc/ 120 chd on EB with that build

[wise swallow]

Why no big horn or HSD

Ig youd have to change a lot to to hot swap big horn and eb

[solar berry]

i would redo the build to HSD but ninja BP is bad, no point

[wise swallow]

Hm

[solar berry]

off meta NinjaBP gets no love

[hazy steeple]

You did just call it bad, so that goes a way to explain why the lack of love.

[solar berry]

i gave it so much love, i ran it since it came out. community always despise NinjaBP. i had 5 builds in my loadouts revolves around it.

devs should buff it so it can be viable to the community. if not, its always gonna get curb stopped. all because it dont serves a purpose due to no BP talents

[hazy steeple]

I'm honestly not sure how you could even buff the ninja-pack at this point. It's kind of just fundamentally not a good choice due to the basic design of div2.

[solar berry]

give it a rollable BP talent, EZ, since everyone say it lacks in that area

[hazy steeple]

So remove the bonus cores?

[solar berry]

it also will be insanely op at that point. imagine Ninja BP with adrenaline rush or vigi. broken asf

keep it also

[hazy steeple]

So it'd be a better Memento.

[solar berry]

to make it viable. yes without passive buffs on pick ups

[hazy steeple]

That wouldn't so much make it viable as it would make it stupidly OP, as you said.

pure theory-crafting here, what 1 change would you make to it?

and it would have to pass the "balanced for an exotic" test. aka: somewhere between Ouro and Waveform.

[versed summit]

i was gonna say, coyote's is pretty good to be the low end

[solar berry]

make it core arm based then. brand bonus stay with rollable talent

[hazy steeple]

I was going to go for a kind of "OP no matter what but just different tiers", but decided to keep it vaguer.

[copper holly]

What's the best way to lvl up ahd

Shd lvl

[hazy steeple]

LZ (open world map) activities on Challenging or Heroic, as many Directives as you can.
focus mostly on executions/control points, stuff like that. Throw in a few Bounties.
"call for backup" if you want help, re-call each time someone joins.

make sure any Global Event is active, as most players will be running that so you get a higher player-pool.

[copper holly]

Ok thanks

[wise swallow]

That would be broken as shit

[solar berry]

it will atleast make it viable. set of getting shit on

[sudden fog]

i actuALLY HATE MM INCURSION

[solar berry]

momento is amazing but dont have a BP talent at all.

whats the difference

[acoustic coral]

maybe just like some named items have a "perfect" talent, maybe the ninja bp could have a "lesser" version?

[hazy steeple]

To clarify, "viable" just means your build is capable of running the activity and going alright to pretty well, what you are suggesting blows past Optimal and straight into "going to get nerfed before it leaves the PTS" territory.

[solar berry]

viable as in more picked compared to left in the dust

[wise swallow]

It would be meta in every possible circumstance

[hazy steeple]

^
That's more "popular". Although again, "broken as hell" is a better term.

[wise swallow]

Give a second talent or something sure but any talent? Hell nah

[hazy steeple]

No worries
there's someone down in #lfg-playstation right now looking for SHD farming, could join them.

[solar berry]

then take off resourceful and have a rollable BP talent instead

to make it balanced

[wise swallow]

That’s fine

[hazy steeple]

The first Exotic to have a rollable Talent.

[solar berry]

or hard delete Ninja BP out of the game

[acoustic coral]

You want to fix the backpack by removing what makes it an exotic in the first place?

[solar berry]

boom, no one can complain now about it

[solar berry]

yes to make it more picked. other than that its useless to majority of the community

[hazy steeple]

A rollable Talent with 3 cores would just make it a stronger Memento in all but fairly specific builds.

[wise swallow]

I actually like ninja with a rollable talent

Would fit the hybrid build niche nicely

[solar berry]

then make rollable core but only one with an extra mod slot instead

[hazy steeple]

99% of people would just run Vigilance, there would be no weird builds around it.

[versed summit]

I dunno. A lot of builds you’d still rather take a brand bonus than get bonus cores that don’t do a lot by themselves

[solar berry]

or only one core and make it rollable

[hazy steeple]

I'm talking abot a build that uses Memento already, not just a random build.

[wise swallow]

I could see it in a tier 6 skill capacitor Crit set up

[versed summit]

So like every other bag?

[acoustic coral]

Resourceful is the only unique thing about nbp outside of the 3 cores tho. If you take away resourceful, why wouldn't I just run any other backpack you normally run?

[solar berry]

does it have a BP talent tho?

[versed summit]

You can beat the weapon damage and skill efficiency but you still can’t beat the armor regen, nor have all those things at once.

[hazy steeple]

What are you talking about?

[solar berry]

my point proven that it very lacks in

[hazy steeple]

I said that it would make it a better Memento in a Memento build.

[solar berry]

it dont have passive pickups tho.

[acoustic coral]

You're talking about taking the ninja backpack, stripping it of it's unique talent - resourceful - so that you can roll other talents. Which then makes me say, that just makes it a normal backpack.

[hazy steeple]

Honestly, that's one of those things that actually help Memento stay balanced, since you need to go actively collect them to keep it useful.

[solar berry]

and it last 300 secs

[hazy steeple]

I get a fair few questions on here every week about if they can use a Memento in a variety of setups, and as soon as they find out they need to go collect the trophies interest wains about 50% of the time.

So yeah I do think being able to roll off the Talent on an identical exotic would be OP.

[acoustic coral]

Memento is good because of the stacks, not because of the 2 extra cores.
Ninja bag is unique due to resourceful - and there's no way MSV would make it more viable by stripping it of this and let you roll talents.

[solar berry]

if brand bonus isnt as good as a normal basic BP talent. then delete the exo as a whole. its prob the least picked exo due to the community. when people see a build with NinjaBP. people always gonna assume its bad. at this point why keep it in the game.

[solar berry]

cant do this unless you have NinjaBP. memento or any other meta build

[versed summit]

If you roll vigilance on this NBB, you're doing more damage than Memento, but you're losing armor regen and Skill efficiency.

If you roll Combined Arms, you're losing weapon damage and armor regen.

if you roll Bloodsucker, you're losing weapon damage, skill efficiency, and technically still armor regen.

ninjabike with a talent would not fill in for memento because it still isn't able to provide the variety of buffs that Memento does for certain builds.

If I'm still not making sense that's ok, just my two cents.

[solar berry]

that would be nice. like an Div1 AB mechanic basically

[versed summit]

not super familiar with div 1. AB?

[solar berry]

alpha bridge. imma find a pic

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, I think NBB should have something extra to make it viable. Whether that's a talent, a lesser talent or - had a random thought - it could double the brand set bonuses it affects or something akin to that. Then it would stay true to it's unique talent.

[hazy steeple]

Honestly not overly, but insomnia is a real PITA sometimes so it's probably just me.
:p

[solar berry]

the last part. where it states the balance in between primary stats aka blue/red/yellow cores

[versed summit]

double would be too much IMO

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, could be 1.5x or whatever, but it would stay true to the talent.

[versed summit]

even then, imagine getting like 45% weapon damage from 2 pieces of lengmo

[solar berry]

i wish AB made its way back into Div2. memento is basically a exo form of it

[versed summit]

yeah that's interesting, but not at all what I was trying to convey

[solar berry]

arm regen builds is gonna be my thing xD. imagine the crit builds

[acoustic coral]

yeah, but if you're trying to make it viable vs any other choice, say the striker bp that gives you 35% extra damange, vigilance with 25%, memento is 30% at full stacks right?
NBB isn't used now because it's not strong enough (generally) - how do you make it strong enough while still having it function as now?

[versed summit]

maybe you can't? it would be more viable if brandset bonuses actually made sense. like what the heck is ceska doing with crit chance, health, and haz pro?

[hazy steeple]

If they remove hazpro from ceska my 3rd oldest build will be worthless.
don't ruin my backfire setup.

[solar berry]

ceska is meant to stay alive, viable with smgs. its an old brandset from Y1. clutch aka BP talent was originally was health regen set of arm regen

more health, more crits, fast firing smg. clutch was smg heaven in Y1

ceska have the perfect clutch also. more returns on crits

[sudden fog]

honestly

i LOVE MM

[drifting panther]

what does ninja backpack do again

[solar berry]

free brand/gear set bonuses

[solar token]

is vigilance that good of a talent? it seems like there's better and more consistent choices

just dont get shot 4hed

[versed summit]

Basically. It’s actually pretty consistent and the damage increase over things like composure or companion is significant enough.

[urban latch]

It's not "just don't get shot". A huge part of what makes vigilance so strong is combing it with a crusader/striker shield, and to a lesser extent bonus armor. They can take damage, and as long as it's not directly your health/armor vigilance will stay active.

Vigilance is also active by default from the start of combat, which is a massive advantage over talents that need to build up or are conditional on kills.

[copper holly]

What build do people use for heroic 4 directives control points farming

[versed summit]

If you’re not running pistolero you can run most META builds. Heartbreaker, Striker’s, Hunter’s Fury.

[copper holly]

Pistolero is the d50 build right @versed summit

[normal cypress]

its a directive

[copper holly]

Oh ok

[versed summit]

lol

[strange wigeon]

does anyone have a conflict skill build using hive + x ?

[sudden fog]

The bad MM builds are coming back now

[half igloo]

4 piece Hunters fury is what i run and its pretty strong imo

[sudden fog]

Hotshot

[solar berry]

made my delicious SMG crit build with arm regen and perfect efficient

[wise swallow]

crit chance is so low

[solar berry]

40 is low to you?

[sage matrix]

How well does scorpion do in dz? I like the idea of it

[solar berry]

is this better now?

[gentle lichen]

Yes it is

Always 50%+

[solar berry]

i always ran 40%+ and never have an issue with it

[wise swallow]

pretty low when its your only source of DMG outside of wp dmg which you have very little of

[wet nimbus]

If you're doing conflict you're missing 10% because of watch removal

[strange wigeon]

what chest talent should I use for a conflict skill build ?

[tame flax]

Shouldn’t come to conflict if you’re not sure about build.

[solar berry]

then how you test out the build if its not group vs solo (me) in DZ

[upper gale]

Wats that website that shows wats in diff vendors?

[tame flax]

Dz build and conflict build quite different, but for new player quite interchangeable

[strange wigeon]

https://rubenalamina.mx/the-division-weekly-vendor-reset/

[shy willow]

Oh god

[shy willow]

40 crit chance with Ouro is verryyyy low

[vapid bobcat]

hey guys do u guys know where i can get that sturdy extended 5.56 mag?

[shy willow]

Control points at level 3/4

[vapid bobcat]

alright ty!

[fair shell]

Anything that I should aim for to get this build better ?

This one takes my crit chance to 55 instead of 45

[tulip charm]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a&noteKey=ed1072bcb59a18f66b8619994f12c4e6&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a%2Fed1072bcb59a18f66b8619994f12c4e6&title=Strikers%2B%2528Y5%2BS2%2529

[lyric prism]

Ceska chest, Striker pack.

[tulip charm]

Tldr: Ceska chest with obliterate and striker bagpack Also run an acs-12 is preferred for stacks

[solar berry]

who needs resist?

[lyric prism]

only if you don't believe in killing something.

go glass or go home.

[tulip charm]

Not 100% res dismantle it. /s

See thats a better res build

[solar berry]

i dont see pulse resist

[lyric prism]

if that is for pvp, different thing.

[solar berry]

so its a bad build

[lyric prism]

so ok you win.

I like to sticky Hunters and set them on fire.

you still optimizing or that the best you can do?

[rich lotus]

Anybody know if Chill Out Mask drops in Countdown targeted loot?

[solar berry]

im just messing around rn

[lyric prism]

ah

[wise swallow]

not me

[solar berry]

lol

[wise swallow]

that HSD will be 10% higher when i optimize other everyday carrierr

[lyric prism]

I think they took it out of the general loot pool except at christmas.

[wise swallow]

or i might go CHD idk

[solar berry]

i had a 200 hsd build at one point

[wise swallow]

i could push this to 200

but i want CHC

[solar berry]

i have to remake it again xD

[wise swallow]

all my mods are CHC

with all HSD itll be 200

[lyric prism]

its just cathartic setting Cleaners on fire while they are stuck in place screaming.

the little joys in life.

[solar berry]

imma remake it again for eb xD

[wise swallow]

sad that this build is only gonna be good for 1 more day tho

[lyric prism]

why?

[wise swallow]

Their fixing efficient. rn insta kit is giving me back 50% armour

[lyric prism]

wow yea. broke.

[wise swallow]

after tuesday itll only be 25%

might still be okay but not nearly as good as it is rn

[solar berry]

even tho it should be in the game

[wise swallow]

it should be a thing. that 1v1 was not unbalanced or anything and actually forced us to trade shots and time kits properly

felt like less of a DPS check and more of who can time everything correctly

[solar berry]

it lasted forever

[wise swallow]

yea lol

[solar berry]

basically just like div1

[wise swallow]

it would have been even longer if you didnt run out of kits

[solar berry]

i was with efficient, my rng was awful

[wise swallow]

yea i had 4 kits at the end of it. even when i killed those other 2 before we actually fought

never ate a single kit. really fucking lucky lol

[solar berry]

still lasted forever. aka hat we need in pvp

[wise swallow]

pretty much

it was alot more fun then 10 second fight

devs for the long of god let efficient builds stay

[gusty nexus]

I just beat the main campaign but I’m seeing a lot of people mention targeted loot but can’t find it so I have to finish the dlc to unlock it?

[solar berry]

i dislike fast ttk unless your heavy into red cores or T6 skills

[wise swallow]

I havent seen a single person complain about this build either, no one is upset that efficient is bugged. PLEASE

[lyric prism]

main campaign is to lvl 30. you want to do WoNY to unlock all the current gear and things.

and get to lvl 40.

[gusty nexus]

Ahh ok ty

[tulip charm]

Pretty sure that’s exclusively for lv40

[solar berry]

facts

[lyric prism]

just make sure you have a max level carriable m1a with you for the end of the dlc. you will know when.

[wise swallow]

i made it better

everyday only has 140k armour but ill do wony run and fix that

[wise swallow]

jesus christ

[solar berry]

EB and bighorn

xD 30% HSD on mask alone

[magic pilot]

Doesn't drop anymore

[rich lotus]

Thanks for replying.

[solar berry]

its a Christmas event exclusive mask

[wise swallow]

idk which would be stronger

[wise swallow]

now run 2 prov instead of contract and roll CHC

[solar berry]

prob the second but top is better base dmg for headshots

[wise swallow]

200 HSD and 50% CHC

[wise swallow]

its better base headshot but second has a little more body shot crutch

[magic pilot]

No point in going chc with headshot

Either go hazpro or handling

[wise swallow]

I have a haz pro variant this is for pure highest DPS and handling i dont care about

its a HSD build first but the body shot crutch is nice

[solar berry]

i need a better chest and BP with chc. fck

it can be 49 ish chc

unless i dont use foxes i can add ceska

[wise swallow]

can i shoot you in DZ for a minute

[solar berry]

i need more arm for this one xD

[drifting panther]

i remember tha

[wise swallow]

HSD focused

116 292 HSD
139 311 CHD

Crit focused
108 262 HSD
141 164 CHD

BODY
74 042 HIGHER CHC

64 199 HIGHER HSD

[solar berry]

@wise swallow im hitting 130k hsd, 200k hsd crit. BH i hit the same but bh can have bigger hsd later on

[wise swallow]

above is my stats

[solar berry]

i see

46k body, 98k body crit with eb

[slate wedge]

@sullen sun my mortar build

[wise swallow]

Im thinking HSD focused is better even tho body is 10k lower

Pic with CHD is better then fenris with HSD and CHD

even on a headshot

and brings body shot loss down

[drifting panther]

@vestal ibex solid build. I get 4 mil per regulus shot, 3 or so per shotgun shot. Sledgehammer deals with anything om my 2nd shotgun. I should run pistol hoarders if I get the chance for this

[wise swallow]

1% HSD build!!!!!!!!!!

[drifting panther]

Another Japanese player

Neat.

[solar berry]

its only bugged on stats screen

[drifting panther]

Did they buff my baby at all? (Bighorn)

[slate wedge]

only had my game on japanese for fun and giggles

[drifting panther]

Oh. That's disappointment.

[wise swallow]

can get DTOOC now thats about it

[wise swallow]

im done btw

[slate wedge]

sorry, i'm german

[drifting panther]

I would try it but I'm too lazy too

[wise swallow]

its shit in PVE

its PVP only basically

[drifting panther]

The bighorn?

[wise swallow]

yea

[drifting panther]

Dude it's my favorite gun in pve

I always thwack

[slate wedge]

in pvp it has become part of the meta

[drifting panther]

Even if I play solo. I just run it with umbra

Damn. Well too bad I'm not a pvp player

[wise swallow]

im in love with it

[slate wedge]

not a headshot player, i prefer reg

[wise swallow]

It just makes haz pro/efficient builds do actual dmg

[slate wedge]

yeah, i like player reg glass cannon with dodge city holster

1.8m on body shot

[solar berry]

bleed builds with arm regen good in pvp?

[wise swallow]

I dont like you 👍

[slate wedge]

hahaha, jk i mainly play umbra versatile with ouro and rpk

[wise swallow]

idk. ive never been a big fan of them in the past

[solar berry]

my bleed weapons

i was thinking about ouro as well

[wise swallow]

come in dz

[slate wedge]

maybe bighorn and hsdß

[wise swallow]

thats pretty fucking fast

[solar berry]

the regen

[wise swallow]

still pretty good DPS

[solar berry]

vector rn

[wise swallow]

try with oruo

[solar berry]

that time was ouro

[wise swallow]

normal vector faster

[solar berry]

prob because sadist

[slate wedge]

vector with sadist is less dps than ouro

[wise swallow]

doesnt seem like it while getting shot

[slate wedge]

both burst and especially sustain

[wise swallow]

their either same orr ouro is slightly faster

[solar berry]

thats vector now ouro

[wise swallow]

ouro bigger mag and better talent so ouro probably better

[solar berry]

ouro faster and prob anti bleeds better

[wise swallow]

dont shoot for a minute

lemme switch to haz

[solar berry]

ok

[rich lotus]

Anybody know at what CHC percentage doesn’t matter anymore? 50%, 55%, etc…

[wise swallow]

60 is the cap.

[solar berry]

i need arm regen on this piece to be at 80k arm regen set of 75

[wise swallow]

if your not max watch just stick to 50-55

[rich lotus]

I know the cap’s 60%. That wasn’t my question lol.

[slate wedge]

you can just compare values by calculating chc*chd if other multipliers like dta, dtooc and headshot damage stay the same

[solar berry]

my rgen kept up for a while especially if i get a shot off for more regen

[wise swallow]

felt like when you reloaded the bleed stopped

idk how that effected you tho

[rich lotus]

I just see a lot of people not bothering with another 6% CHC for instance staying at 54% rather than going to 60% and trading for an extra 12% CHD.

[solar berry]

50% is the key for crits in general

can go higher if you wish

[solar berry]

before this was haz pro right?

[wise swallow]

yea

[solar berry]

now its without?

[wise swallow]

yep this is HSD and crit

[solar berry]

o boy

[wise swallow]

itll shit on normal striekr

but lets try it anyways

[rich lotus]

Ok I was just wondering if it’s worth going higher in CHC from 50% or staying at 50% CHC and then putting the rest into CHD.

[wise swallow]

yea no chance. that was even half stacked striker

[solar berry]

ill put on my striker

[wise swallow]

regen builds > normal DPS?

[solar berry]

maybe.

[wise swallow]

i also think its cuz efficient is actually decent and makes solo play possible

[solar berry]

ready for my striker

[wise swallow]

ouro?

[solar berry]

ye

[wise swallow]

why not

its 12.30 so last one then im off

[solar berry]

its ok striker

[wise swallow]

thats a very interresting build

[solar berry]

56k arm regen lol

[wise swallow]

big horn HSD crit on yop

[solar berry]

its only good if i can get a full start off. for that bonus dmg

56k rn is the best regen i can get so far excluding striker pieces

[wise swallow]

you dont have striekr bag either which sucks

56k is fairly good for striker lol

my regen build only has 42

[solar berry]

i can but it would be bad arm regen, its a tradeoff

mmm, let me see sum out rq

[wise swallow]

yea, anyways im headed to bed. good fights and some new build possiblities

[wise swallow]

i altf4 already

sorry lol

[solar berry]

40k with striker bag. imma try and get other roles higher or the arm regen

later, gn

this is what 120k arm regen feels like

[flint wave]

and what no damage feels like

[solar berry]

its a trade off xD

[flint wave]

perfect stall build when it's a 4v1 manhunt

[solar berry]

i wish incoming repairs worked for arm regen again

i miss that bug

[tulip charm]

I should build a pvp set

[gentle lichen]

Just switch to bighorn/hsd instead of crits

Your damage will be so barack

[solar berry]

That’s what I’m farming out. Just rng on rolls is ass xD

[blissful inlet]

Arabic?

[granite girder]

Is heartstopper still viable for PVP ?

[dull ermine]

Is the Brutus considered a good sniper rifle?

What about ekims long stick if u ignore the 137% hsd from white death

Are the talents good to make these sniper rifles on par with the white death?

I don’t mind chambering each round

[flint wave]

White death got shafted when project resolve came out

[dull ermine]

Interesting what changed?

[flint wave]

There's literally mmrs with more mag size and better handling with more base damage

M700 family and srs

[shy willow]

White death is in the dust

[dull ermine]

I’m just curious how those 2 perform

[granite girder]

Is heartstopper good for pvp ?

[shy willow]

Brutus is alright but given how broken determined is

[dull ermine]

I always liked the m44, m700

So how’d they ruin white death

[flint wave]

by power creeping it to death

[dull ermine]

Idk what that means 😭

[flint wave]

nothing changed about it its just irrelevant in terms of meta

[onyx sage]

other guns are better now

you already can kill all the relevant enemies with WD, but you have more damage with the new toys now. take that as what you will

[dull ermine]

Let me look at the stats im lost loool

[granite girder]

is heartstopper good for pvp?

[dull ermine]

Why is the bullet damage all in red?

When comparing sniper rifles are u guys looking at bullet damage, mag damage or dps

[onyx sage]

bullet damage

[hexed steppe]

On the same build I use.
Top end white death determined hits 28mil

M700 carbon/tac top end hits around 30mil

Regular m700 will hit harder than the carbon/tac, but 1 less attribute mod slot

[dull ermine]

So would you consider Ekims long stick good?

If we are ignoring mag size etc

[hexed steppe]

Itll be good. But I like determined

[flint wave]

yes but it has the critical mistake of not being able to have determined

[dull ermine]

Ah is it to kill rushers like hyenas?

[hexed steppe]

🧀 doesnt bother me a bit 🤣

[patent fossil]

Srs-1 hits harder than Carbon and has the comfy mag size/reload, not sure why everyone raves about Carbon

[dull ermine]

I’m majorly in the dark I just remember when the rave was white death, nemesis 🥲

[flint wave]

call it skill issue but "regular" sniping in this game feels like ass

[dull ermine]

Also I saw there was a huge nerf to the mantis is that significant?

Or is it still good

[hexed steppe]

Carbon just has the best attachment points out of the m700 family

[hexed steppe]

Mantis was buffed afaik, but I think the scope is bugged atm

[dull ermine]

R u talking about determined?

[flint wave]

🗿

[patent fossil]

Mantis wasn't nerfed, it just wasn't buffed as much as originally intended, it's still very good.

[dull ermine]

As far as I understand with that talent it’s headshot kill = talent = does not trigger on consecutive headshot kill

[hexed steppe]

If talking determined it's actually broke af and allows for body shots to chain as headshots after a headshot kill

[dull ermine]

What about the pinprick I notice u guys talking about the SRS. I waited so long to get the pinprick from named caches, how does it fit in the lineup

[dull ermine]

Still?

I swear I read something on trello that they changed that

[hexed steppe]

Yeah still.

[hexed steppe]

It doesnt

[shy willow]

First blood ain't it chief

[dull ermine]

U mean mod slot?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah sorry. Mod slot

[flint wave]

first blood walked so determined can run

[dull ermine]

That I kept saying to myself lol

[dull ermine]

For clarification are u talking about the SR-1 Or the SRS-A1?

[patent fossil]

Sr-1 I'm pretty sure. Higher damage.

But yeah I keep getting those names confused

[dull ermine]

It’s not the one we find to get the nemesis part is it?

[onyx sage]

it is

it's a named sr-1

[dull ermine]

Is the tactical .308 any good I notice it’s damage is okay

[flint wave]

nope

[onyx sage]

it's like okay in heroic but really bad otherwise

[flint wave]

idk if it got buffed but it dies a horrible death when player scaling

[onyx sage]

idk why they didn't bother buffing its base

[dull ermine]

And the covert srs / srs series? In the bin as well?

[onyx sage]

they only buffed rpm iirc

[flint wave]

🗿

mmr dps buff insane

[dull ermine]

Just curious cause I love the way these guns handle

Also I notice that the range of the m700 class is 50 is that noticeable compared to 60?

[hexed steppe]

Only if you're shooting that far out

[dull ermine]

I don’t even think I can render that far

[hexed steppe]

I use stability mods on mine that drops it to 45 and still hitting everything

[dull ermine]

Okay so that’s pretty neat, whats ur build? High end or gearset

[hexed steppe]

Hotshot 4pc. Chainkiller chest, airaldi vigilance bag.
Headshot/handling.
Stability mods/tightly packed mag on the m700 carbon gets me 12rnds and 107% stability which translates to no no scope sway.

One of the hotshot pcs is rolled handling along with my secondaries

[flint wave]

107%

[dull ermine]

Do u ever run high end anymore?

[hexed steppe]

Better than 97%

[dull ermine]

Or aces?

[hexed steppe]

No

Not worth. You can 3pc hotshot if desired and run foxs. The 4pc bonus for hotshot is decent though. Especially with determined keeping it procced

[dull ermine]

I’m debating between aces and hotshot as I’m not that accurate

[patent fossil]

Only reason I'd drop 4pc hotshot would be to run dch

[hexed steppe]

Can still run aces.. but hotshot is the stronger of the 2

[dull ermine]

Sounds good

Are high ends still good or they’re dead ? Overlooking dch

I have a high end build

[hexed steppe]

You can still use highend if desired. The way headhunter is you can use quite a lot of different setups and still hit the damage you need

[dull ermine]

Okay that sounds good

[patent fossil]

Just weaker than 3pc hotshot, doesn't mean they're useless. Got a slight buff from hapsburg now as non unicorn pieces are less of a pain to farm

[dull ermine]

Don’t laugh at me for asking this but I saw they buffed merciless and the m16 rifle - are they any good now? 🥲

the talent on the named m16 looks appealing

[patent fossil]

I've been meaning to run a watch mule through WONY to see if I can't craft the hapsburg chest/bp unicorns actually

[rich lotus]

These stats are wrong right

[hexed steppe]

That's not updated to resolve yet

[rich lotus]

Apparently a lot of people are resorting to SR1

Wondering what sniper to use now after the buff

700 or sr1 are the deal breakers apparently

700 with highest damage and sr1 overall best stats

[patent fossil]

If you run 4pc hotshot and miss rarely enough that you can maintain the auto reload, that negates the model 700s biggest downside (I don't though, so I'm sticking with the SR-1 for now)

[hidden creek]

With the new content fox knees 3 Lemgo Coyote mask the new meta to go with pestilence ?

[patent fossil]

I think pestilence is so far from the meta these days that the rest of build is irrelevant, didn't the lmg buffs somehow skip it?

[rich lotus]

People say that even then they have a way better time aiming with the SR

I might juts get both and swap every now and then depending on what Im doing ig

[patent fossil]

yeah, see if one feels better to you - personally I haven't really tested the 700 so can't comment

[rich lotus]

Its like someone else said

700 feels like an overkill if you have a 100% optimized build

As long as you can trigger chain then you're good to go

My goal is to at least be able to pop hs purples

Having to double hs sometimes sucks

[hidden creek]

Yeah pesti only lmg who didn’t got a buff ..

[patent fossil]

yeah there's always different breakpoints to look for dependent on content & number of players

[hidden creek]

But I thing 3 Lemgo gives 30% lmg dmg what is sweet 🤔

[hexed steppe]

I personally really like the m700 tac and use it on my primary.
12/13 rnds with tightly packed mag.
I'm running a bunch of handling and maxing out stability past 100%
No sway, really fast reload.
The way i see it, whitedeath still hits the damage thresholds so anything above that is just gravy. Go with what feels best regardless of the minor differences on top end damage

[vestal ibex]

I mean I run 5 directive with that build all the time, it can carry 4 man pretty easy if you are really good or have somewhat contributing team mates. You should be getting like 19 mil while fully stacked on HF and HH too.

[zealous karma]

this

there’s a point to where you’re dumping points for nothing, you can be pretty flexible with sniper builds

[elfin token]

Need help finding new chest piece with Obliterate

But is my gear good for dps build

[tardy flame]

you can easily queue for at least challenging countdown like that

should be pretty fast like that👍

[elfin token]

Just need to get gear to optimise my gear to 100%

But it's very slow

😧

[tardy flame]

ressources you mean?

or are you talking about expertise?

[elfin token]

No need the increase the attribute

To max first

[tardy flame]

ah i see

[shy willow]

Why the grey m9

[elfin token]

Just got firewall

And give me that

[tardy flame]

yeah just play countdown for that..it drops loads of gear..and youll also be able to buy caches and gear from countdown vendor

[shy willow]

The firewall pistol is the firestarter

Not an m9

[elfin token]

Just started it not upgraded yet

[elfin token]

Haven't unlocked it yet 😕

[brisk barn]

Thoughts?
I was thinking of running high end instead but I decided to save the FI 15% damage because there is no way in hell I am grinding for HSD and Stability on Yellow core items all month

[weary pier]

what high end can sub memento?

[elfin token]

What's that shotgun your using

[shy willow]

None

[brisk barn]

Lefty

Named ACS-12

[shy willow]

What the shit is this

[brisk barn]

Healhunter

😂

I’m doing 26m on a fully charged Nemesis

[elfin token]

Is it the Ceska chest I'm looking for dps build right

[brisk barn]

If you are low on CHC then yes

If not you can choose the stat of your liking, fenris for AR damage or anything

[shy willow]

Ceska is the best option regardless cuz of the value of 10 percent chc

[tawdry flare]

It works cause it has chai killer

[brisk barn]

Exactly

My only issue is that I can’t use my HSD stability Setup

[elfin token]

This is my gears stat's

[tawdry flare]

Rip HDR Metadata

[versed summit]

Memento does a bunch of different things. So pick your favorite and you can find a HE bag that does that. The high end will at least do it better.

[frank sorrel]

do you guys think that the ravenous is it worth farming for a build ?

[brisk barn]

It’s a very good gun for a variety of reasons, and none of them are the same

[frank sorrel]

idk i did try to get it for a time but no luck and i an sick of IH

[shy willow]

IH is like the most fun endgame activity for me bar legendaries

[brisk barn]

Gotta run IH with me, I almost always guarantee 1 😎

[hexed steppe]

What highend takes care of the skill efficiency better than memento?

[frank sorrel]

knowing my luck I doubt it

[elfin token]

Is my gear stat's right any advice for me

[brisk barn]

3pc empress

[versed summit]

😐 it was a simplification

[brisk barn]

Just replace 3 of your items for 1

Easy

[hexed steppe]

No 😆

[shy willow]

Memento has unrivalled versatility as a single piece

[lyric prism]

on an EP build, firestarter you want dmg mod or burn mod?

[hexed steppe]

Hardest working single item in the game

[brisk barn]

On the sticky? Burn

[lyric prism]

no chem

[shy willow]

It hard carries

[lyric prism]

I'm thinking the straight dmg one

[hexed steppe]

Probably burn. Sometimes the chem blast can kill npc before the status takes

[lyric prism]

ok

[hexed steppe]

If higher difficulty either will work tho

[lyric prism]

the Burn mod seems to also affect the duration and increase by half a sec.

[hexed steppe]

So 1 tick

[brisk barn]

Half a second 👏 we are min maxing

That’s 350k more damage right there

[lyric prism]

yea not much difference. the dmg mod is another 25k, burn says 11k, half a sec longer tick.

[hexed steppe]

Adding cap to it as well?

[lyric prism]

which part?

[hexed steppe]

Capacitor

[lyric prism]

no

I usually run Scorpio

[hexed steppe]

That will drive your damage really high if stacked before you fire

[lyric prism]

ok

my capacitor stucked until the reroll so I'll try it.

[hexed steppe]

Just range test it and you'll see.

[frank sorrel]

lefty is kinda okey for a shotgun if you dont have scorpio

[lyric prism]

ya but my Scorpio is exp 17 and rerolled to dta/dttoc so it does well.

[hexed steppe]

Insync mop good second. 12% dta helps fire

[lyric prism]

Capacitor is at 10.

good, I have one.

[hexed steppe]

Doesnt matter. 60% skill damage

[brisk barn]

I should run swap speed on my test subject now that we mention secondaries

[hexed steppe]

Weapon expertise on a skill build is not really doing much

[lyric prism]

no but its nice to have.

[hexed steppe]

But not helping anything but ego

[lyric prism]

and I got a set of the rugged gloves out of Manning of all places.

[hexed steppe]

Nice

[lyric prism]

ya, its an ego thing. blap

[hexed steppe]

That cap/mop combo will work really well. Cap for max damage, mop when you need some aok if getting low

Anywhere you can do skill damage along with the status effects is gonna help

Fire double dipping and all

[lyric prism]

yea that worked much better.

American History best place for settings groups on fire at doors...for testing.

[tawdry flare]

Not as verse as 511

[vestal ibex]

#td2-general-chat message

[tawdry flare]

Have you bookmarked that link ?

[tawdry flare]

Btw I did IH Morozova Rockets for the first time

[vestal ibex]

Is that why it was so slow?

[tawdry flare]

Faster than entire run

[rocky rain]

What is the best way to burn the reanimated hostiles?

[tulip charm]

EP

[rocky rain]

EP?

[vestal ibex]

It's a gear set called eclipse protocol.

It spreads status effects on death.

Could also try Ortiz: Exuro gear set the 4 pc unlocks a spinny boi flame turret.

[rocky rain]

Unfortunately I have neither

[hazy steeple]

Well there's an easy way to solve that.
here's your perfect time to intro to the "Countdown" gamemode.

[rocky rain]

Ok, thanks!!

Will do

Ah, I have actually crafted 4x Ortiz! With which skill should I use it?

[vestal ibex]

The special turret the set unlocks.

[rocky rain]

The Incinertor?

[tulip charm]

fire turrent

[vestal ibex]

I have never used the set. It'll be like skills>turrets>idk one that is unlocked because of the set.

[rocky rain]

Would I need all 6 pieces of the set for that?

[tulip charm]

4

[vestal ibex]

Only ever need 4 pc of a gear set.

[rocky rain]

I have 4 but no new turret. Just the assault, incenerator, sniper and the artillery that goes with Demolishing specialist

[onyx sage]

it's the incinerator

[rocky rain]

Ok. But it was unlocked already

[onyx sage]

the set modifies its behavior

[rocky rain]

Ok. That makes sense. Thanks. I’ll give it a go

It’s nice!!!

[silk plaza]

Hey I'm a returning half decent player but for some reason my survivability seems lacking even when I put together a regen build my watch is 713 and my builds arent 100% optimized but they are mostly and heroic just keeps shredding me it's a bit frustrating ngl and when I drop it to challenging it feels too easy so I guess I'm looking for a build to help me farm eat heroic level I prefer the run and gun playstyle any advice would be greatly appreciated

[versed summit]

Heartbreaker with a ceska vigilance bag/memento and a coyote's is a good middle ground between damage and tankyness, and it works well for solo heroic. it's usually best to roll some heartbreaker pieces red though.

[drifting panther]

It's like 17 mil tho

Plus I play alone

[vestal ibex]

Perfect rolls, expertise, spec weapon tree into pistol, all these will push up the damage. Yeah solo it's crazy good.

[rocky rain]

Done with burning them!!!

What does the Resourceful talent do? I don’t understand the description of it

[wide silo]

Guys, is there like any decent LMG Build? Especially for Bullet King?
Or is it more like a Meme?
I would say generally speaking Striker?

[silk plaza]

Thanks I did one of those last night with a vector 45 with flatline and technician and it kinda helped in some situations but I think my weak spot might be skills I'm using which are defender drone and riot foam

[versed summit]

shield is great for survivability. I love using artificer to repair the shield as well

[silk plaza]

I'll try that combo with shield

[copper holly]

Have u got a build that I can see

Wanna try build it

[versed summit]

iKia's 4.14 HB AR Bruiser (TechTank) is the jist of it.

[copper holly]

Thank you

@versed summit would you say it's worth using over striker max red build for heroic content

[acoustic coral]

@shy willow Maybe you could weigh in

[versed summit]

you can easily get faster times with red striker's, but this is an easier build to play. It doesn't work well for heroic group content though

[copper holly]

Interesting

What build are you currently using

[vestal ibex]

You can use HB to about the same effect in heroic content grouped or not imo. Once you hit legendary or incursion you'll really feel the lack of damage.

[copper holly]

Same question to you souless13

[vestal ibex]

Depends on the content. Most heroic or openworld I use Hunterfury headhunters regulus. For the incursion I'll be on strikers.

[versed summit]

heartbreaker sure, that heartbreaker though, you'll feel the difference.

[flint wave]

huh this build style looks familiar

Heartbreaker is outdated

[vestal ibex]

Yeah depending on who you play you can get away with memento and I've used that exact build before.

[versed summit]

looks a lot different

[versed summit]

agree to disagree, I still like the bonus armor even with it quirks

[flint wave]

Memento gives you all the bonus armor you need

[versed summit]

eh I don't like relying on just the memento armor

[copper holly]

Could I see that build because I already have a striker red build so trying to make my next build

[versed summit]

also artificer is basically a cheat code

[flint wave]

you're not supposed to

You have a tier 5-6 shield

heartbreaker doesn't help with the shield

[versed summit]

yeah but no artificer to buff it

[flint wave]

who cares about artificer

[versed summit]

you can have your build, It's not my style nor do I think it's better

[flint wave]

I'd like to see how the heartbreaker version performs on solo legendary tidal basin compared to the striker one. Pretty sure it's better

[solar berry]

artificer is only good for skill's uptime

[vestal ibex]

From the spreadsheet pinned in this channel>Hub(builds).

[vestal ibex]

Artificer is OP yo.

[solar berry]

its ok

[vestal ibex]

It ads like 60% skill damage at T6.

[flint wave]

Too bad i gotta run technician to use artificer 😔

[vestal ibex]

Oxy builds be lovin it.

[flint wave]

oh true

[solar berry]

striker is still better due it being multiplicative set of being addictive for HB

[copper holly]

Reading that just confused the hell out of me haha

[vestal ibex]

Oh poor Raucey....

[flint wave]

[vestal ibex]

It's the build pictured at the bottom pretty much tho.

[drifting panther]

Expertise. Yeah

[copper holly]

@vestal ibex I'm not sure what backpack vest and primary is

[vestal ibex]

chainkiller chest, DH vigi backpack, regulus pew pew.

[urban latch]

Let me know what could be better explained

[versed summit]

since when is it additive?

[urban latch]

The striker and HB stacks work in the same way. The total amount of stacks is added together, that total is a multiplier to everything else

[uncut needle]

Anywhere i can find decent pvp builds to follow? Just starting out

[versed summit]

there's a link on the build spreadsheet

[copper holly]

Oh just that it was showing different builds and different weapons I'm basically a new player when it comes to builds so was a bit confusing

[uncut needle]

Yep, found it now. Thanks

[hollow solstice]

is there a high end ouroboros build for conflict?

[urban latch]

If something your unfamiliar with is called out try looking for it in the main spreadsheet. That will have more info on all the gear, descriptions of talents, etc

[copper holly]

@vestal ibex do you use headshot damage on ur vhainkiller or chd

[magic pilot]

Headshot always for mmr

[vestal ibex]

For the build we are talking about it's all HSD(headshot damage) and any other rolls are WH(weapon handling).

[copper holly]

So on all them it's headshot damage can't tell the difference apart from the vest and backpack which is weapon handling also?

[tulip charm]

yes

Headshot takes priority

[copper holly]

Ok cheers

[spark hinge]

hey so somebody explain to me how talents work because on some of the same stuff i was attempting to transfer talent skills between, it would not allow me to and im in tier 5

so a brief explanation would be nice

[zealous dew]

World Tier 5?

[spark hinge]

yes

[zealous dew]

Are you accidentally using the 31-40 table

[spark hinge]

and the tutorial said i could do it but then when i try it, it didnt let me

i dont think so, or maybe i am. Here ill let u know when im home cause i cant remember everything off the top of my head

but i was tryna switch headhunter to my main armor piece and it didnt let me. Are u not able to transfer stuff off purple to high end items? when its the same piece of armor

[sudden fog]

hmm

[vestal ibex]

Honestly this is such a strange thing... Like most people at end game(30 or 40) never deal with purple gear so I'm not sure how it even interacts. I would assume it doesn't at all and you can't use purple or lower gear for anything other than selling/deconstructing because you can't put purple gear in your library at all.

[lyric prism]

its it Palisades w/ the named backpack that give explosive damage to deployables?

chest.

[solar berry]

arm regen, HSD BH build @wise swallow

im missing 20% hsd need a better chest and holster

[wise swallow]

i dont like cath

cuz i dont have it

[solar berry]

lol

[tulip charm]

how dont you have it by this point?

[gentle lichen]

Belstone 2 golan has more value

By 0.5%

Instead of gila

[solar berry]

less arm regen