td2-build-advice

[brisk barn]

What’s almost god roll tho 😅

[vale bay]

Yea still unlocking the further variations of shields!

Any particular talent for ACS/Lefty that I should target?

[brisk barn]

Lefty will always give perfect sledgehammer
I don’t remember what ACS wants, the shotguns are used more for stack building because of their fire rate and capacity to hit enemies

[digital tusk]

The armor part lol, that's it. I changed hazard to repair and now I just need to opt the skill haste

[vale bay]

Is countdown a good place to farm those?

[digital tusk]

Countdown is best for farming anything imo

[brisk barn]

That’s fine if you use technician for the extra skill tier but if you don’t use that you’d want to recal the armor to skill tier, that’s why it’s called a unicorn(it’s hard to get the right stats)

[brisk barn]

Countdown is the preferred method yes

[vale bay]

gotcha

[digital tusk]

Ah. Guess I might just go for an alps bag then, not wanting to go on a wild goose chase for the perfect stats and attributes lol.

[brisk barn]

Technically you just need to roll The Setup with repair skills near max and you’ll be golden, it doesn’t matter if you have skill haste on it too much
Alps is fine too, but you need to roll it with opportunistic or the right stats

Either way it’s a goose chase of some sort 😅 welcome to the division

[digital tusk]

Well I already used my recalibration on putting the repair skills on it so I might as well just go with an alps unless I get lucky

[brisk barn]

You can also opt to use the technician specialisation, if you don’t have it unlocked I can see how that’s also an issue

[digital tusk]

Yeah, I don't got it, and I'm not really wanting to spend anymore money on anything RN since I'm saving up for a PS5 edge controller

[brisk barn]

You can get it 100% free

It’s just time and effort you have to put in for some challenges

[digital tusk]

Ik

[brisk barn]

For gunner you have to take off a heavy tank boss’ entire armor before killing him

[digital tusk]

But on top of that I'm currently working on my gunner and then firewall for 2 other things

[brisk barn]

That means both arms both legs chest and helmet

[digital tusk]

Ik

I did the achievement for it on PC lol

Also brb gotta take out some trash

[brisk barn]

😭 using my pistol never been so mind numbing

[flint wave]

Jesus rolled

[brisk barn]

Bro rolled Moses

He parted the Red Sea and ended up losing anyway

[digital tusk]

Should've ran a DPS build

Also I'm back lol

[flint wave]

Hi back lol

[digital tusk]

I'ma hurt u

Anyway, currently trying for btsu gloves

[shadow gorge]

in pvp is better striker or armour high end with unbrekable?

dark zone

[wise swallow]

striker if you can efficiently keep/get it stacked

if your really struggling to get get it stacked and keep the stacks (getting them is more the hard part) high end will likely be better

[shadow gorge]

and about heartbreaker with armour?

[wise swallow]

no comment

[shadow gorge]

no comment? 🙂

[flint wave]

heartbreaker MID

that's my comment

[vapid bobcat]

hey guys is there a way where i can easily grind for field recon data? ty!

[wise swallow]

I have no real opinion on it, its easy to put together so try it out if you want

its easily countered

not really a build id rely on

[hollow pasture]

On todays builds in legendary matchmaking 💀

[flint wave]

NINJABIKE D:

[stable tree]

Meta Legendary Solo Build -

[flint wave]

always ninjabike

[shadow gorge]

thx 🙂 and about sniper is highset too?

[flint wave]

also found this in legendary matchmaking once

[hollow pasture]

Oh that reminds me

What's this 5 piece obsession

[flint wave]

who's little brother hopped on tbe shd 4000 account

[stable tree]

I'll do you one better

[hollow pasture]

I would tolerate that if you know he was like shd 30-100

But ur shd 500 CMON

Atleast they know they actually need to use a pulse lmao

[flint wave]

I'm dead

[stable tree]

Heh.

[hollow pasture]

Also low shd love just going into expertise

I saw 2 shd level 20 trying to do legendary 🙃 today

[onyx sage]

i carry legendaries with my shd 500 account already

xd

[hollow pasture]

I mean but you have extensive knowledge of the game already

[random sigil]

I know ninjabike backpack sucks for meta builds and not used, but for solo builds, would anyone use it over memento? And if so, which builds? I find unless i'm using a run and gun build, I HATE running around to grab trophies lol.

[onyx sage]

shhh

[hollow pasture]

I wouldn't no

I use memento on both my solo open world builds and don't see how ninja would fit in

[random sigil]

yeaaaah, the only one i'm thinking about using it on is my solo skill build. usually for that build, i just sit back and the only time i grab trophies with memento is when enemies are dead... sooo in that case im thinking can squeeze more set bonuses in instead of memento? but yeah, i dont really see it being useful for anything else? Maybe for a solo heartbreaker build? since the hearbreaker backpack is w/e anyway

[hollow pasture]

My hb tech tank uses memento

[random sigil]

yeah, i can see that, and you're usually using kingbreaker or soemthing so easy to grab trophies

[hollow pasture]

Yea

Only build I used ninja on was a umbra build

[random sigil]

never tried umbra, worth building?

[royal raft]

I'll soon be Lv 40 and thinking on making a build then. The spreadsheet gave has two builds that say they are ideal for new players: "Drone Turret Skill Damage Build (TU19)" and "Umbra Initiative (TU19)". Are either of them good for a first build at lv 40?

[hollow pasture]

Idk really it's a interesting play style
Sit in cover build stacks out of cover build more stacks Rinse repeat
But It can be somewhat good

[random sigil]

I would say turret drone and strikers are pretty easy/good

[random sigil]

yeaaah, i'll prob only try it on my turret/drone hybrid. other build i was thinking was high end bruiser build for pvp/dark zone? fit in more armor regen/armor on kill or soemthing

[hexed steppe]

none of the extra set bonuses for skills are gonna top 30%-60% skill efficiency memento has... thats 30% -60% in every skill bucket btw. also long buff is 5 minutes so its easy to keep 30% efficiency maintained... if you were gonna veer off memento you're better off going with a bag talent that gives total skill damage over ninja...

[random sigil]

yeaaah, i get that, i'm just lazy with picking up the trophies lol, I just have to do it.

[hexed steppe]

look at eclipse fire build. status build that spreads any status active when enemies die. it will burn entire rooms easily.
strikers is really easy to build and use.
turret / drone suggested above also really user friendly .

[hexed steppe]

after your 30 are stacked you only need one every 5 minutes to maintain the 30 stack

[random sigil]

i really wish there was another bonus for ninjabike like memento, like 1 or 2 percent weapon damage/armor/regen/skill efficiency for each core or soemthing like that.

[hexed steppe]

yeah it would definitely put it on better footing

i end up using force multiplier a lot on skill builds , perfect combined arms (30% total skill damage when procced)

meshes good with insync since both require weapon hits fairly frequently

[brisk barn]

In sync builds hurt my brain because I don’t use the in sync weapon as a main weapon just to proc the buff

[random sigil]

yeaaaah, i have it with my capacitor, i just forget to proc it....

[hexed steppe]

cap is great, just gotta keep it stacked when you need the damage

what i been using 90% of the time lately... boom booms are fun 😂

[onyx sage]

you know what other build also causes explosions?

[random sigil]

you like the btsu gloves over waveform? i have it, never tried it.

[onyx sage]

waveform isn't really a noticeable increase over a wyvern holster tbh

[hexed steppe]

full team overcharge, instant arty back while hive rapid fills

i have skill damage contractors i can use if i dont want btsu

but i do a lot of team stuff. mortars on a stacked cap with oc will hit like 11m+

[random sigil]

been using this for solo stuffs

[hexed steppe]

is that mop

[onyx sage]

that actually looks like a decent turdro build

[random sigil]

ya

[hexed steppe]

yeah its legit, i would maybe run glass but thats a personal thing

[random sigil]

this is the other one ive been toying with, but as you recommended maybe swith waveform for btsu

[onyx sage]

only if you play hive tho

[random sigil]

ooooooh

[hexed steppe]

might be worth rolling one of the ba pieces yellow, and running another spec. i use gunner on my own turret/drone setup

[random sigil]

oh hmmm, i think i can do that. feel pretty safe even without the extra blue cores

[hexed steppe]

on that second one posted definitely gunner

the 10%aok is nice

[random sigil]

yeaaah, the way the pieces rolled, i wasnt able to swap the cores

[random sigil]

yesss, ive been trying to find a way to add it, i think you found my answer

[onyx sage]

not really applicable to this build but unironically deathgrips is also a great way to add aok while maintaining high crit when pairing with coyote

i've been looking for a crit dmg deathgrips forever and next patch is giving the bp

[hexed steppe]

i use this sometimes, but admittedly not often since mortar clears faster

[onyx sage]

is that emperor's guard

[hexed steppe]

yeah just for fun 😅

[onyx sage]

no worries, it makes sense

[hexed steppe]

this was my answer to constant pistolero directive a couple seasons back

i originally gunner for the ammo , but was able to stay armor topped up pretty easy

[random sigil]

i like it

[hexed steppe]

and pfe mods on either setup

[random sigil]

question for solo bruise/AR (mostly red) builds, do you prefer HB, Strikers, or ND?

i feel like strikers, the backpack is too important to swap in memento...

[hexed steppe]

personally i like nd, highest multitarget damage.
striker is definitly gonna go a bit further tho especially if wanting to run a couple blue cores

[random sigil]

mmm, i was thinking ND too

HB i like in theory, but its so specific to setup

[hexed steppe]

it works decent with memento as well

yeah im not big on hb. doesnt fit my playstyle

[random sigil]

yeaaaah, i like the pulse thingy on my rifles or pvp, but on hb AR solo, i dunno, i dont like kingbreaker all that much tbh

[hexed steppe]

nd easy enough to build. it also pairs well with an m1a secondary, no stacking

[random sigil]

true, i feel like striker, in solo, things die before i get to max stacks usually...

tried this for solo, feels okay

[hexed steppe]

they can, you would oblit the chest. its definitly highest single target damage and gives room for some blue cores .

i would at least ceska a piece. itll allow all non secondary rolls and mods to be chd when rocking elmo

[random sigil]

oh yeah, i do that on the group build

i use ceska and coyote with the strikers backpack and chest

[hexed steppe]

nice, as long as youre hitting your chc marks youre gold. sounds like you got some good options

[random sigil]

i keep trying to find/make a bruiser/Ar build that has high armor regen with enough damage, but its just not working

it ends up just being a somewhat tanky build, but not enough damage so i end up dying anyway

just delaying the inevitable longer...

[hexed steppe]

i think youre right to look into memento for that, but i know a few here like bloodsucker bag talent which is really strong for really heavy loads of bonus armor

[random sigil]

i was thinking that too, i gues one bonus for momento is the skill tier makes the shield stronger?

[hexed steppe]

if you use shield a lot, you could also look into pairing tech class and artificer

[random sigil]

also, i dont have emperor's guard, which makes the armor regen build much easier to make

[hexed steppe]

just as an example, this is with a bulwark shield. but the artificer repairs 48% @ skill tier 3 every 10 seconds passively from stored position

i think if it was just memento and tech tier it is around 33-36% repair iirc

[random sigil]

oh cool, is that busy little bee?

[hexed steppe]

regulus

[random sigil]

ah okay

that reminds me, what build do people use for all 5 directives for exp?

[onyx sage]

there are a few

[hexed steppe]

determined hotshot headhunter, regulus headhunter hunters fury

determined d50 also if no regulus

[random sigil]

ive been trying to get a d50 for soooo long, it never drops lol

i have the hotshot build tho

i just need a d50 lol. I have the prophet

my only issue with snipers, is i suck at sniping

[hexed steppe]

yeah with 4pc giving some ammo back it actually works decent on pistolero

[random sigil]

sooooo i miss.... alot

true i'll farm more countdown

[hexed steppe]

determined whitedeath can chain the body shots and also keep hotshot procced on thosse body shots as well

[random sigil]

cool i got one to drop the other day. what scope do you use to easily land the first headshot?

[hexed steppe]

preference, if im on a pistolero directive ill use gunner over sharpshooter so just 35% or whatever the 12x is. sharpshooter scope will give better damage on first shot tho

[onyx sage]

or you can no scope

no scope gives the fastest firing speed

[random sigil]

ooooh

can you get the headhsot on your pistol then switch tot he sniper?

[onyx sage]

determined is lost when you switch

[random sigil]

ah okay nvm

[hexed steppe]

headhunter will stay procced for a short time

[random sigil]

i just have to get gud....

[hexed steppe]

but yeah youll need a headshot

[onyx sage]

aiming with sniper is easier

[random sigil]

yeah, i tried the 8x scope, was a bit hard to get the headshot from far away with that

[onyx sage]

8x isn't the best

try the default 12x or sharpshooter digital scope

[hexed steppe]

digital is variable zoom as well 12-16x

[random sigil]

kk trying int he shooting range

oh dang, i didnt unlock the digital sharpshooter in the tre...

what do you use for a secondary, rifle?

[onyx sage]

can use another mmr, or shotgun, or smg

personally it's either nemesis or m870

[random sigil]

i had scorpio earlier incase people tried to sneak up on me

[onyx sage]

if you're playing headhunter, the m870 is actually your highest damaging weapon, and you can use it to one shot a warhound or a named enemy

scorpio also works but it's kinda eh when you use it with headhunter, but ymmv. i mostly either use regulus or nemesis so my exotic slot is already taken by those

[random sigil]

ah, i'll have to farm for one, have had a good m870 to drop yet

yeaaah, the 12x scope is sooooo much better

[vapid island]

Hello, I would like to know what set the design of the vest is from.

[onyx sage]

badger tuff

[vapid island]

I can't figure out what that is, are you sure? I want to know what set the breastplate skin is from.

[onyx sage]

oh, you mean the character skin. it's the stovepipe vest from last season

[vapid island]

Ok it can't be achieved anymore

[onyx sage]

two seasons ago*

[vapid island]

And can it be obtained in some way or is it no longer possible to obtain it?

[onyx sage]

i don't know, but you could try playing the stovepipe manhunt. it's quite hard so be warned. it's at Coney Island Ballpark; toggle mission mode until you get Stovepipe Manhunt

[vapid island]

Oh how sad it is an endGame activity, I don't think I can do it, I'm new to the game, I thought it could be obtained by farming it from some set in the countdown activity.

[hazy steeple]

You can scale the difficulty of the mission, it's not that hard.
Although technically speaking, anything at Lvl 40 (aka: anything after you finish the WONY campaign) is considered the endgame for div2.

For the actually tricky part of the Stovepipe Manhunt, just take a Liberty Exotic Pistol (easiest Exotic to obtain since it's just completing a few missions) and the Bulwark shield.

[vapid island]

Or if you're right, what I mean is that the activity I need to do is out of my reach.

[hazy steeple]

It's not, once you reach Lvl 60-70 in the Season Pass, you have all the old Manhunts unlocked permanently.
Just play the game, you've got plenty of time to get there.

[vapid island]

Do I have to have the pass purchased or is it not necessary?

@hazy steeple

[hazy steeple]

the Season Pass has 2 tiers, the top one is free if you own WONY and has all the actual content.
the bottom one is paid, and only contains excess caches and cosmetics.

[vapid island]

Ok so how do they work, are they hunts or something similar?

[hazy steeple]

Manhunts? When they're new they are hunts sort of, yeah.
but older ones (called "Legacy Manhunts") are just a single mission that gives you a special thing for doing them.

[random sigil]

question, strained or fast hands?

for ARs

[onyx sage]

either is fine, newcomers tend to like fast hands more

[random sigil]

mm, okay sounds good. was only curious in case one or the either generally produced more dps

[hazy steeple]

We are getting a major balance pass next month-ish, called "Project Resolve", so the meta may change at some point.

[shadow gorge]

for the pvp dark zone is full armour or half dps is good?

actually i have 5 armour

[pearl carbon]

1.5 mil armor and unbreakable with m870 and honey badger/ ouroboros is what I use

All crit and 3 or 4 blue cores

Perfect adren and catharsis

[wise swallow]

4-6

[shadow gorge]

ok certain things i already use but i have immunity to shock also 🙂

[wise swallow]

neither is more optimal, basically just use whatever works for you

i like 4 blue

[shadow gorge]

but unfortunately i have 5 blue and one elettric because is hard to find rolled with red or blue XD

long story in any cases thx 🙂 only i have 27k damage in pvp but patience 🙂

[pearl carbon]

Yeah what ever your good with works just about finding that one build and your unstoppable

[shadow gorge]

😄

thx again 😉

[pearl carbon]

Double companion also still hits hard get up to 50k pvp for low shade levels

[shadow gorge]

nice 🙂

[pearl carbon]

Also another great one I just made is a 2 tap regulas build to any play basically including if they have unbreakable

Very nice for pvp starts if you can hit your shots

[shadow gorge]

nice idea but need first optimize it. But without fast farm with weeks 🙂

[pearl carbon]

Yeah I get that I ain't even fully optimised still only level 4 expertise too I've been lazy as he'll on my table

And I'm level 550

Status builds atm are fucking crazy in the DZ

Since status for pvp is getting nerved next season (all the serfs next season and only towards pvp everything PVE stays the same or gets buffed and some pvp get buffed) everyone be running that shit had a 4 man vs that 1 mofo and he clapped us

[shadow gorge]

what you mean with buffed pvp?

[slate wedge]

oh nice i run that too, can you show a the build you have?

[slate wedge]

for beginners i would recommend 4-5 blue cores, if you get more experienced you can get more red cores

[shadow gorge]

ok i try 🙂 but one yellow is useless?

[pearl carbon]

Only things is that one blue core should be red I just recalibrated it for another build

But this build very squishy mainly for support offensive but if you can hit your shots this be a fire build I can 2 tap someone with 1.6mil armor and unbreakable

Focusing crit only no headship damage

Headshot*

[random sigil]

dang you use that for pvp?

[shadow gorge]

not is needed the shoulder for make more damage on regulus?

i mean the exotic one

[pearl carbon]

I do I have pretty good aim but still trying to get better

[pearl carbon]

What do you mean?

[shadow gorge]

the dodge city holdster

[random sigil]

do you use vigilance and glass cannon?

[pearl carbon]

Nah not for pvp the charge up is too long unless you can strategise around the proc waiting time don't use dodge city in pvp only pve

[pearl carbon]

Yes perfect glass and vig

You want the most straight up damage you can get

[random sigil]

dang even in pve i cant use either, i'm not skilled enough to not get hit/die

[pearl carbon]

It's very squishy only recommend if you can hit shots and strath very well

[pearl carbon]

You'll get there it's all about practice

Can't be the best in a day

[random sigil]

yeaaah, in the meantime, i've been using spotter/composure. and undecided on whether to go flatline or boomerang

[pearl carbon]

That's decent if your going spitter flatline shotty build but if they have pulse resistance you'll need an ultamative

[random sigil]

OH sorry, i meant pve. I'm not skilled enough to use this in pvp lol

[pearl carbon]

Either way you'll get there just try cover to cover for now or go all red strikers with obliterate or double gamble

Aim to try and get the eagle bearer st elmo engine and the ouroboros

Before regulas because regluas is the hardest exotic to get

[random sigil]

got st elmo's don't have any of the others

[pearl carbon]

That's good make sure it has damage to target out of cover if not reroll

[random sigil]

you cna reroll exotics?

i thought the third attribute on exotics are static lol

[pearl carbon]

Nah next update they changing it so all can be but atm some are rerollable

The St elmo is

Just go to the craft bench and get some componants

[random sigil]

ooooh okay, i'll do that, right now it's crit dam ill go change it

[pearl carbon]

That's not bad but yeah 100% go for dmg to target

Also get yourself a left for strikers proc

[random sigil]

left?

[pearl carbon]

Lefty sorry a nam3d shotty

[random sigil]

ooooh yeah, i got that, thats to boost weapon damage right

[olive badger]

finally got one for the healer build

[junior surge]

Because it's an acs-12 (autoshotty) it stacks striker stacks very fast. A normal acs-12 or a rock and roll are also good, but sledgehammer can really make a huge difference when applied well. Imo, sharpshooter, firewall and survivalist give the best grenades to procc it.

[pearl carbon]

What about demo?

Doesn't the launcher proc sledge

[junior surge]

No, only thrown grenades

You need to hold the gun in your hands to apply the mark

And if you're holding the launcher, you're not holding anything with sledgehammer lol

[pearl carbon]

Dam that's shiiit imagine though

Launcher with sledge

[random sigil]

for ND, what do you use for chest talent, obliterate?

[onyx sage]

yes, or glass, or focus

[tawdry flare]

I have seen people use tardigrade

[round zinc]

is strained worth it on the acs for situations where i need big dps

like tidal basin leggo finale

[onyx sage]

yeah

you can use strained on acs

[tawdry flare]

Wish fast hands counted with pellets for shotgun instead of the mag 🥲

[azure torrent]

Hi guys with 4p striker and coyotes mask, whats the ideal cc and cd i want to look for? I assume coyotes are not included on stat page

[tulip charm]

chc 50% everything else into chd

[marsh nebula]

depends on the playstyle really. if you like to shoot from a further distance with an AR you could min max chd by only going for 25%-40% chc but 50% chc and the rest into chd works all around

[tawdry flare]

50% is the sweet spot imo cause if you go lower like 40% than you are relying on a buff that rely on NPCs

[abstract raft]

AR and stuff 50%
If he plays smg e.g ouros he should get close to 60% right?

[tawdry flare]

Yeah

[azure torrent]

Thank you all. Im an AR fan. Will check it out.

[pearl carbon]

Eb if you want AR or famas

[royal raft]

In general, what makes a build easy to build? I'm trying to figure out the loot system in td2 and it seems everything drops the same everywhere? Like everything can drop in open world (CP4) or countdown, right? What makes Strikers for example easier to build than any other build?

[limpid pelican]

depends what you need to change on the pieces. striker for instance doesnt require much besides maybe an obliterate chest piece

meanwhile in order to get let's say an ideal habsburg guard piece, you need to get headshot damage, weapon handling, and vigilance/headhunter in order to recal the blue core to weapon damage

[royal raft]

thanks, so the more difficult the get builds require specific attributes and you may need to spend a lot in optimization/recalibration. that makes sense

[limpid pelican]

not so much optimization, but lots of farming in order to find a piece that has 2 of the correct attributes, as well as the talent that you're intending to use. that's when you're attempting to run armor or weapon damage on a piece that doesn't drop with that core attribute initially

so with striker, assuming that it's all red, the most you'll have to do is find a ceska/grupo chest piece that has 2 out of 4 slots which are desirable, then change either the secondary attribute or talent

[slate wedge]

don't go for glass cannon, it is super hard to play

or atleast don't recommend it hahaha

[pearl carbon]

I'm good with it but mainly use it for an offensive support in DZ

I hit shots most the time

And I'm good at creating distance

Only takes 3 shots max

Against any build

[glossy scarab]

you play dz with all red cores?

baller

[limpid pelican]

regulus all red with pgc and vigilance is the door griefer

[glossy scarab]

ahh that makes sense

speaking of pcg. which i have like 7 different versions of I found one that I could change the core. i dont know why i would ever want an armor core pcg with chc/chd though

[limpid pelican]

been meaning to farm one for oxi build tbh

[vestal ibex]

Funny thing is the empress GC works just as well or better in most cases.

[glossy scarab]

yea def. i dont have an all yellow one but one with skill dmg and skill tier, and one with status effects and skill tier

[glossy scarab]

thats the way i usually go

[limpid pelican]

no joke huh? good to know

[tawdry flare]

The only thing where it does less is mortar build

[limpid pelican]

appreciate it. for incursion turrets then, would it just be 3 piece empress, acostas with foxs and contractors?

or 2 piece empress, 1 piece wyvern? also curious if acostas is necessary for overcharge

[glossy scarab]

Wouldn't 3pc empress be better bc you do get the same 10% skill DMG (among other things) that you get from wyvern

From skill efficiency

[limpid pelican]

kinda what im curious about

[vestal ibex]

I do 3 pc emp wyvern bp with tech support BTSU and foxes, tech spec and artificer.

Almost any version will work tho. This is just the best setup for speeds.

[limpid pelican]

thanks again. i'll
try and throw it together then

[vestal ibex]

Yeah and cause you are running tech you can have red foxes even so it's super easy to put together.

[tired ravine]

Any builds that i could use both in dz and heroic pve

[vestal ibex]

Heart breakers I guess? Most things don't translate well from one to the other, it's like playing two different games. Just use up a build loadout or two toward PVP and if you get really hooked on both sides of gameplay just have a PVP character.

[glossy scarab]

Having a variety of build load outs ready to swap to is a very helpful thing. My main character build load out list is always maxed out full

[tired ravine]

so i would make a build for pvp only what would be good

[glossy scarab]

There should be a pvp help section on this discord

Get on it ISAC

[hexed steppe]

this is the build section

[glossy scarab]

I'm aware. But there's more to pvp than builds

[hexed steppe]

pvp builds generally gonna be high end crit brands and some named like fox's picaros and weapon damage brands like fenris

[tired ravine]

has the smg meta changed in the last 6 months? What would be the best smg atm

[hexed steppe]

armor cored for pvp

[tired ravine]

non exotic smg

[hexed steppe]

the questions are about builds

[glossy scarab]

I know he asked for build advice and this is where to do that. It just made me muse a bit on a dedicated pvp spot to ask for help or ideas on not only builds but also tactics, team strategy etc

[tired ravine]

good idea

what build would you guys recommend to farm that new 1500 rpm smg

[hexed steppe]

fair, i see it was a suggestion for a spot and not directing to another channel.. mb

[glossy scarab]

Oh no prob bro

[limpid pelican]

bro squad has a great pvp channel

[hexed steppe]

i think oreo smg and st elmo ar are both used a lot for pvp

[strange flame]

jD is still correct, though. Fundamentally, it doesn't matter what build SNPR puts together if he's soloing and is intent on engaging groups (esp. veteran).

[patent fossil]

@tawdry flare someone's been taking you too seriously

[tired ravine]

oreo smg? is that the exotic vector like smg

[hexed steppe]

yeah sorry

[glossy scarab]

It's kind of really fkin powerful

[hexed steppe]

im just not assuming knowledge level. if he wants that advice then it would be asked for ig

[flint wave]

It does matter tho

[glossy scarab]

Yeah. I wasn't specifically talking about snpr either. I just thought it'd be a good idea in general

[hexed steppe]

yeah a discussion channel would be a good idea though. they exist for raid, descent, hardcore

[strange flame]

One guaranteed method SNPR could use is to go into the DZ, get his ass handed to him, and inspect his opponents' builds, cognizant of their synergy. ☠️ 🤣

[tawdry flare]

Looks like it

[hexed steppe]

secrets out, new meta incoming

[glossy scarab]

They done messed up though. Its not 6pc

[unreal sapphire]

hey everyone i'm new in this game where can i farm this ?

[patent fossil]

Odd oversight given their obvious dedication to the cause

[hazy steeple]

The heavy BT (black tusk) enemies with a minigun? Those should count.
You can see those just walking around the open map, fighting JTF (friendlies)

[glossy scarab]

South of the White House has a good chance of having an open world heavy

[hazy steeple]

Technically most of the map is South of the White House.

[glossy scarab]

Gd dmmit

[strange flame]

aka "Heavies"... Any of the factions' -- typically solo -- Humpty Dumpties

[unreal sapphire]

thank you guys 👍

[merry drift]

where?

i couldn't find them

[glass whale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNJNujP878

is this build from 2 years ago still viable?

[hexed steppe]

message is probably a bug, i got same message and nothing .. stash > mailbox though

[strange flame]

Are we to assume that you checked your stash? If so, it's possible that they were directly applied, depending on the 'items'. Else, @hexed steppe could also be correct WRT a false positive.

[patent fossil]

Is that V4MPIRE from the old forums? Ye of the expansive vocabulary and meticulous phrasing?

[merry drift]

nothing

[strange flame]

Yes sir. Was just about to advise everyone to trust your judgment... veterans since D1 👍

[glossy scarab]

Couple of OGs here

[patent fossil]

Good to see an old face! Your unusually precise exercise of the English language always drew my attention

[flint wave]

old men meeting

[strange flame]

Sadly unusual, indeed. 🥲 lol

[hollow pasture]

Usually happens after a maintenance /patch

[strange flame]

I'm out, ladies and gentlemen. Have a nice time-zone specific time of day.

[hollow pasture]

That sure is some vocabulary usage

[glossy scarab]

Fare well and godspeed

[urban latch]

This is an updated version

[solid ermine]

https://zippyimage.com/image/image.iOigvJ does anyone know what the backpack is in this and the talent on it?

[vestal ibex]

Belstone/blood sucker.

[brisk barn]

How do you know it’s the named version

[solid ermine]

thank you!

[vestal ibex]

You don't know if it's the named one. It could be either really.

[hollow pasture]

Sure game I'll take it

[woeful swift]

holy shit

[urban latch]

Right rolls >>> max rolls

[lean sedge]

any advice on this build i have, feel like my dps is low and im squishy

[urban latch]

Hard to tell, but I think that's a chill out mask?

[brisk barn]

Solokovs

[lean sedge]

yeah slokovs

[woeful swift]

what would be better? like which parts

[urban latch]

Ok. Ideally you'll want to swap that out for a high end backpack or memento and HF mask. I'd really recommend running a crusader shield for one of your skills, the difference in survivability is massive. A full red core build with a crusader shield has more survivability than a 6 blue core build with no shield. If your running the memento that will give 2 shield tiers alone, which will give you more than enough survivability to play up close with HF

And your likely low on crit chance, so if you can at least run 1p ceska, either the chest or backpack, that will help your dps

[lean sedge]

have 60% crit chance right now

[flint wave]

not running a shield on a cqc build is insane

[urban latch]

So you can recalibrate one thing. You've got crit damage and optimist. Both are ok, but not really what your looking for. Also I'm not sure which lmg type it is, but that matters a lot as well. Steady handed, fast hands, and strained are all good talents for lmgs. On the third attribute you'll ideally want crit chance for most builds

[flint wave]

only survivability is unbreakable which is not the best imo

[urban latch]

And iKia is the guy to give you lmg advice

Not me, I hate them lol

[vestal atlas]

this message is for the free keys you get for the apparel event, it pops up every apparel event, it is poorly worded as the keys automatically go into your inventory and will never be visible in your stash.

[lean sedge]

i do have momento ill swap that in and put ina set face mask

[flint wave]

if ur running memento invest in blue cores to make the trophies worthwhile

easy to convert some HF pieces to blues

[urban latch]

Memento alone should really be enough survivability alone, but it's ultimately personal preference

[hazy steeple]

Yeah with Memento defaulting any shield to 2 cores, it's honestly fine to just go for all reds on the rest of the pieces.

[lean sedge]

swapped to to blue core and momento up to tad under 1 mil armor

[flint wave]

my preference is I like bonus armor that doesn't go away in 1 bullet

[hazy steeple]

The fascination some people seem to have with hitting 1 million armour is very odd.

[flint wave]

also buffs the shield

[hazy steeple]

It's like, do you know how hard a single no-core shot hits?

[slate nest]

5.0s reload time 😭

[woeful swift]

LOL

@hazy steeple i found a burn out with pretty much max rolls in my stash lol. just have to swap on dttoc

[wide owl]

My bag and stash are almost at cap, are there any brand sets or weapons totally not worth keeping at all?

[dreamy valve]

You can create a mule character

Fellow hoarder

[wide owl]

I'm too lazy to reclear the story to unlock the stash 💀

[rich lotus]

Hello, i have an issue, i recently bought a new computer i installed the game i did a benchmark resulting in this how can i manage to use way more CPU & have 120 FPS ? this computer can EAZLY do it

[hexed steppe]

You can level 30 boost a new agent and have 150 spots in their bag in the time it takes to load in.... they dont have to be maxed out to hold gear, js

[patent fossil]

Many of them, yes

[wide owl]

But don't we need to clear the story to a certain point to get to HQ for stash?

[hexed steppe]

No

[patent fossil]

Better to read up on a few meta build guides then chuck most of what you don't need (especially if you can easily farm it again)

[hexed steppe]

You 30 boost right to wony and have a stash in haven

Just pull junk that's stored and not used much into the alt bag

[wide owl]

Aight, I'll give it a shot, thx

[urban latch]

511, any gearsets your not actively using since they are so easy to farm if/when you do actually want to use them. And in general just anything that is more than 1 recalibration away from being the correct rolls for a build you might put together. A max rolled piece a skill tier, health and weapon handling, or guns without dtooc or a good weapon talent are useless even if all stats are maxed. I'd really recommend just going through and clearing out things you'll never use anyways instead of just making it easier to hoard more junk you'll never use.

[wide owl]

just anything that is more than 1 recalibration away from being the correct rolls for a build you might put together.

This line is probably the best advice I can get for inventory management, thanks

[tawdry flare]

Dude 5.11 are god pcs you should always save them a 5.11 skill build does more DMG than rigger

BTW I am pretty sure the PR I do for 5.11 is more than Ubisoft did for entire game what do you think honest answer not memeing this time

[onyx sage]

it's uncalled-for

[tawdry flare]

At least you are honest I am going to retire from 5.11 after 5.11 incursion

[hexed steppe]

until 5.11 gets buffed*

[hollow pasture]

Move on to being a sys corruption enjoyer I think they need influencers

[hazy steeple]

Pfft.

[hazy steeple]

Every time I see your username, I do have the urge to logon and farm+delete another piece of 5.11
does that count?

[tawdry flare]

😂😂

[hollow pasture]

You'd be like the one dude here
ChameleonDeconstructer

[hazy steeple]

I did at one point change my username weekly, but I think it's on the endpoint at this stage.
It just doesn't get more fitting.

[hexed steppe]

you should get in contact with them and get a sponsorship. 15k to daily driver a 6pc 5.11 set

[hazy steeple]

Although I was briefly the Loresbian.

[hollow pasture]

They need a 5.11 branded skin and weapon tbh

Maybe a 5.11 spec

Along with 5.11 grenades?

[hazy steeple]

5.11 is an actual real life, paid for as a brand deal, brand.,

So more promo material feels a little...odd.

[hollow pasture]

Yea ik it's also in ghost recon

[flint wave]

we already have 982 5.11 appearance mods

[round zinc]

they have a div2 promotion video where they have dudes just shoot a bunch of spec weapons

it was pretty cool

[hazy steeple]

I hope they hired that one not-russian guy who went to jail for it.
FPSrussia?

[hollow pasture]

Why is 5.11 the only actual irl gear in the game
Bet ubisoft has some sort of deal with them

[flint wave]

when the only irl gear is the worst brand in the game

[hexed steppe]

im sure its just coincidence /s

[hazy steeple]

Yep, it's in quite a few games.
It's like that one song in the Wall Street mission, Ubisoft licenced it out since it's also in Siege.

[flint wave]

They gotta have beef with 5.11

[hazy steeple]

I like to think it's MSV having a laugh since they made it the objectively worse brandset.

[round zinc]

https://youtu.be/GGrZkErD1V8?si=oY6-D8MgDiItT7u0 i wonder

[hollow pasture]

Maybe ubisoft made them include 5.11 and they just made it the worst thing ever on purpose

[hollow pasture]

Yea I saw that
Pretty cool tbh

[round zinc]

making 5.11 meta would be pretty good PR for 5.11 idk

[hollow pasture]

Wait didn't division 1 have a gear piece that I swore had a TM or Copyright symbol in its name

[hazy steeple]

Maybe it's based on what they paid for the deal.
If they'd given them more, it would be Providence.

[hollow pasture]

I forget the actual name

[hazy steeple]

Mechanix

[hollow pasture]

Yea that

[round zinc]

in their defense
shooting 50 cals,a bunch of mortars and a HGL for a video game ad is not cheap

[hollow pasture]

On the tip of my tongue

[hollow pasture]

They had fun doing it it's fine

[round zinc]

i do miss these irl video game ad campaigns/trailers tho,like how cod used to do them all the time

[hazy steeple]

I honestly thought those were like that fancy lego, I forget what it's called.
I guess it's a real tacti-cool brand.

real game trailers were a lot of fun. There's playlists for them on youtube.

[flint wave]

If only strikers was a real thing

They'd be making bank

[round zinc]

div3 striker,presented by 5.11

[hollow pasture]

It's strikers but how it was originally in div 2
So meh

[round zinc]

honestly the only thing old striker was bad at was the damage increase

[hollow pasture]

Nah people also didn't use it cuz it needed pretty crazy accuracy

[round zinc]

if it was like 65% amp damage at 100 stacks then it would be mote reasonable

even with chest+bag it used to be ~100% at max stacks

maybe make the stack loss a bit more forgiving

[brisk barn]

Technic?

[hollow pasture]

Shd 162 attempting the incursion

[vestal ibex]

You carried them yeah?

[hollow pasture]

I told him to get a strikers build going and dipped since he was the only one other in the group

[glass whale]

thank you!

[woeful swift]

AAAAAAAAA

[glossy scarab]

nice grab. luckily theyre changing the C7 to roll with random talents instead of overflowing every time

[woeful swift]

that's good. this one's got dttoc and that's all i cared about lol

i can optimize the hell out of it idc

[woeful swift]

so i'm trying to test c7 vs elmo for dps in the shooting range. at 20m elmo is beating c7 by about a million damage per second, is that what it should be?

part of it is definitely my c7 not being maxed out on its stats, but i don't feel like the extra 1.3% ar damage and 2% dttoc would add up to a million extra dps

[onyx sage]

don't use shooting range dps tracker, use the quick dps calc pinned here, just needs the single numbers and some stats from your gun to calculate the actual dps

[woeful swift]

yeah i just plugged the numbers in, it still seems like elmo beats my c7 by about a million dps for sustained dps

[vestal ibex]

No surprise there. You will also have trouble factoring in a damage talent like optimist or stained, flatline is pretty easy tho.

[woeful swift]

i'm trying to take the highest numbers i can see when i'm using striker, obliterate, and strained on c7

using striker and obliterate on both though. so those numbers should be consistent

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but that's unfair cause stained doesn't work like that.

[woeful swift]

well, right, it means my c7 damage should be a bit inflated

is a bit inflated, i mean

[vestal ibex]

Also not sure if you're changing your CHC to compensate for the loss swapping weapons.

[woeful swift]

no, i'm comparing on the same gear build right now. my chc on c7 is only 48% though, i'll try bumping that up. it's 10% lower than elmo

[vestal ibex]

Should be 5%

[woeful swift]

my chc with elmo was at 57.9

[vestal ibex]

I'm saying Elmo is 20 and HE AR can mod 15 CHC

[woeful swift]

i've got chc on the underbarrel and muzzle, i dont think i have the right mod for the last 5%. i'm using a +10 rounds for the mag. i could switch that to +10% chd instead, but i was told higher mag size is more important

[onyx sage]

yep higher mag size gives the most dps

[woeful swift]

so i'll leave it on that then. where is the last 5% chc supposed to come from? mag?

[vestal ibex]

Optics, look up the secret side missions and you'll get one from those.

[woeful swift]

is it the one that gives bonus damage to elites?

[onyx sage]

that's pre-wony yeah before they removed dte. now it gives 5% chc

[woeful swift]

okay cool ill grab that

[vestal ibex]

Also 2% DTTOOC is pretty much exactly that in damage if you've got no other sources of it.

[woeful swift]

2% damage?

[vestal ibex]

You said you were missing 2 DTTOOC right?

[woeful swift]

2% on my c7

need to optimize it

[velvet axle]

What kind of builds do you all suggest for the raid? I’ve got a decent striker build a pretty good healer build and a full on Bulwark shield build.

[cursive gull]

@hexed steppe ive finally found the hunter disrupt threshold, its 97.4 or 97.6%

[hexed steppe]

Nice, yeah it's a bit higher than a couple of stated sources. 95 and 95.8 if for regular emp, and hunter jams @ 97.6. I wonder if it's just countdown hunters at that level or others like masks or f100

Immunity is really nice feeling 💯

[woeful swift]

alright i've got the right scope now. should be able to keep my striker build at around 53% chc without getting rid of all my chd mods

at least my version of it without the chest. with the chest it's lower since i don't have a ceska piece on

my shd watch is still really low level but once i can at least get to like 500 i should consistently have good chc and chd

[hexed steppe]

Chc more important.
Once maxed all dps builds will be a lot easier to setup

[flint wave]

Yeah Prioritize crit chance its probably the most important Stat in the game

[woeful swift]

lmfao i just got another carbine 7 with every stat better. ezpz

[random sigil]

is there a build for the ballistic deflector shield to get the kills for the global event?

[junior surge]

That's pretty good. You can cover pretty much all the roles in raids with that

[wraith spire]

Hey, since coming back to the game in December I've been wondering if there are any decent firewall builds. I've mostly been playing technician or Gunner and haven't really bothered with the burny boy spec

I was thinking of doing a shield build with catharsis, foundry and the improved striker shield

Are there any stranger setups though I might not know about?

I also have an okay setup for the Ortiz flame turret gear set but I haven't used it yet so I don't know how effective it actually is

[junior surge]

Is this for pvp or pve?

[wraith spire]

Either

[gentle lichen]

Firewall is almost always your go to spec for pvp unless you pulse (tech) or wanna share medkit with teammates (survivalist)

[cursive gull]

I finally got a ravenous, what is the best use case for it in a build?

[frosty owl]

as far as i know getting a tank build is good for the ravenous im working one one myself rn

[random sigil]

pls help, how do i make the deflector shield actually kill enemies and i dont die, otherwise im gonna abandon the challenge

[vivid idol]

any guide best healer build?

[cursive gull]

look in the pinned comments for the spreadsheet of builds and look for "FI Healer Build"

[urban latch]

Here's a list that has some explanations of where different builds are used.

[hazy steeple]

I was thinking of the other one, but Technic is close enough.

[tawdry flare]

I am having Deja Vu seeing this message

[shy willow]

Its used in one shot strategies afaik

And staggering morozova on iron horse

[tired ravine]

why can't i put a weapon damage core on my picaro's holster

[glossy scarab]

not allowed. they decided it would be too strong ..

[gentle lichen]

They couldn't program it

Probably for the best

[glossy scarab]

it was originally gonna be like this

but it was going to be so good it wouldnt make any sense not to use it

[hollow pasture]

The game would combust into flames when it saw the 2 red cores in the same gear piece let's be real

[gentle lichen]

Perform magic. If picaro has a red core. Make the weapon damage 30%

Or have it give you every type of weapon damage lmao

15% pistol damage 15% shotgun damage and so on

[glossy scarab]

weapon efficiency

[hollow pasture]

Isn't that just handling minus the damage

[hazy steeple]

Handling gives accuracy/stability/reload/swap speed.

[hollow pasture]

Yea thats basically skill efficiency but for weapons

[glossy scarab]

they said nothing about handling. it was about weapon dmg for all weapon types in one attribute

[hazy steeple]

Kinda, Skill Efficiency is actually a little different, as it gives 5(or6?) stats instead of 4, IIRC.

[hollow pasture]

I was talking about weapon efficiency

[hazy steeple]

But yeah, this convo was about it giving a 15% boost to each of the weapon types, for some reason.

[gentle lichen]

A workaround to put a red core on picaro

[glossy scarab]

there ya go

[hazy steeple]

Anything to make Picaro's less awful I suppose.

[gentle lichen]

I mean there already exists a holster that has pistol damage that you can put weapon damage on

Sounds plausible

[glossy scarab]

maybe having more than one red core (effectively) on one gear piece is reserved for memento. which at full stacks gives 30% wpn dmg, so effectively two red cores on top of the regular red core on it.

[hazy steeple]

Well, you do need to actually do something to reach that full bonus on Memento, which is a fairly hefty difference as opposed to just equipping it.

[glossy scarab]

yea absolutely

[hazy steeple]

That's always been a thing with div2, to be fair. Needing to do a thing to get a reward, but there's less effort required to get something weaker.

[glossy scarab]

not the same. bad comparison. on my part just to be clear

[gentle lichen]

Make it have a talent that gives 15% weapon damage with just 1 minor attribute

[glossy scarab]

that would be a reasonable middle ground

[hazy steeple]

Nah it's actually a good explanation of why Picaro's can't just magically have 2 reds.
if accidentally :p

[glossy scarab]

i dont know why they didnt do that

[gentle lichen]

Picaro is mostly used in pvp because you want blues on everything so it is perfect as it is now. It's only the pve part

[glossy scarab]

anything i say that isnt misguided, stupid or batsht crazy is accidental

[hazy steeple]

That is 100% fair

[glossy scarab]

Try the lfg section for PS

[round zinc]

tbf i dont see it being used for striker and all

due to lack of crit
sure you can use elmo but even back then it wasn't the highest dps weapon

[flint wave]

double red core picaro is a noob trap more then anything

glad it's not possible

[round zinc]

its the same story as something like perfect unstoppable force lengmo vs literally any other brand with unstoppable

well red related brands

its definitely gonna beat a 5.11 unstoppable bag

[glossy scarab]

Yeah I was testing that yesterday and a ceska unstoppable force allowed for 24% more chd. Which was definitely stronger than the lengmo named one

Using ouroboros might be different since everything is already rolled and modded to chd

[round zinc]

ok but i can always roll for more damage

[quiet sparrow]

should I inlclude some blue cores to my striker build for better survivability?

[tawdry flare]

Nope go all red use cover you can if you want add like 1 or 2 cores maybe but not more than that

[glossy scarab]

Ouroboros is so strong that you can use 2 blues and still have a really fast time to kill

[flint wave]

yes

if ur solo blues are stronger

[flint wave]

You can use 2 blues and still have the same time to kill on majority of enemies regardless

[hollow pasture]

Pretty good tbh

[royal raft]

After getting to Lv 40 I'm making my first DPS build (Strikers). I have the 4p Strikers now should I continue farming Strikers gear until I have all pieces with the right attributes (and at max rolls?) or do I continue down the list of things go get first (i.e. 1p Ceska, Coyote's Mask, Lefty etc.)?

[flint wave]

Not max rolled, deconstruct 🥱

[glossy scarab]

Yeah I guess it's not a whole lot of difference across the board

[tawdry flare]

5.11 bag with clutch nice

Max rolled too

[hollow pasture]

I didn't even notice the fucking 5.11 😭

[vestal ibex]

Good. You never should.

[hollow pasture]

I don't ever

It's deconstruct every time

[tawdry flare]

Incoming gift for you A 5.11 pcs

[tepid trout]

I'm gonna drop you so much 5.11

[hollow pasture]

If we could crouch and teabag
I'd teabag the 5.11 loot on the floor

[shy willow]

There's de facto teabagging

[hollow pasture]

I've been dreading this day

It's time for me to get the sacrum imperium proficient

[shy willow]

Eurgh

[onyx sage]

those printer filaments are starting to look more and more shiny

[hollow pasture]

Only resuming wony runs after season 3 launches
After I've wasted a shit ton of mats to reroll the exotics

[onyx sage]

i haven't run a single wony since the first patch with expertise came out, it's just been levelling

[gentle lichen]

3 wony runs in and i'm at 24

I am NOT playing with rainbow build and play countdown for eternity

[hollow pasture]

Doing that rn

Find it more enjoyable than over and over wony runs

[vestal ibex]

I should just pop some wony runs and finish it up cause the new update making expertise upgrades cheaper will be super nice.

[hollow pasture]

Merciless /ruthless done
Iron lung time

[quiet sparrow]

is Heartbreaker with chest and backpack optimal? Also can I run HB with Catharsis exotic?

[onyx sage]

HB with chest is usually what people run, backpack is if you feel comfy having more bonus armor

and yes you can run with catharsis, preferably if you have 5-6 blues for max benefit

but "optimal" in terms of damage, not really

[carmine compass]

Coyote and a Ceska Vigilance bag is what you'd want for the best dmg output

[onyx sage]

welcome back

[quiet sparrow]

how catharsis benefits more from 5-6blue cores?

[onyx sage]

because more armor means you take more hits, and catharsis requires you to take at least 30 hits to function, and the healing also scales with your armor. so for max benefit you would run all armor, but of course that comes with the clear drawback of losing damage

[quiet sparrow]

understood, thanks

[patent fossil]

Plus the WD you get from it helps compensate for your lack of red cores (and the more red cores you have, the more its value is diminished)

[quiet sparrow]

WD?

[onyx sage]

weapon damage

[dreamy valve]

I’m thinking about playing around with a deflector shield again, maybe after project resolve drops to see if there’s any way to make this skill work

[patent fossil]

I don't think Resolve is adjusting it at all

(also, many people before you have tried and failed to make it worthwhile)
My main tip for deflector is try to angle the deflected bullets against a different enemy than the one who is shooting you, they tend to stop firing when hit by their own bullets

[vestal ibex]

I know deflector will consume HH stacks and deal damage but does it also proc determined?

[flint wave]

Striker drone and other skills used to proc determined but they fixed that

my guess is no

[vestal ibex]

Maybe I'll test it today.

[glossy scarab]

I just watched a few seconds of some amateur youtuber's hybrid skill build. ninja bike with all skill tier/skill DMG rolls on 3pc negoshe and 2 PC strikers. 6 skill tiers and the striker drone was only doing 28k DMG somehow

I feel like that's around what my striker drone does on an all red build while holding the kard custom and not even firing it to proc in sync

[flint wave]

Just another case of people reinventing all gearset noobtrapbike backpack builds

[glossy scarab]

with an AK as the primary running preservation

well at least its not the same builds that they make videos about over and over

[round zinc]

watch the narrative being shifted to "red builds are elitism and we should encourage build diversity!"

[onyx sage]

6 red builds require too much skill

[vestal ibex]

I want skill builds to do the same dps as strikers ouro so I can cuddle my cats and clear content at the same pace.

[glossy scarab]

wow a potentially useful non picaros brazos piece. thats a rare find

[hollow pasture]

I tried testing deflector in countdown for proficiency and one use of it and was like fuck this garbage

And just used printer filament on it

[hollow pasture]

Feel like we saw the same video

[flint wave]

As a toilet gamer I want to perform at the same effectiveness as someone holding their controller with both hands

[hollow pasture]

Pooping out 5.11 pieces while deconstructing them in game

[flint wave]

You guys are both bad build hunters

[hollow pasture]

Nah it was randomly recommended to me on Yt
I do not search for builds on Yt I know better

Or else I'll end up thinking rigger is the new skill meta or that oxy skill builds are the new meta for lovebirds

[glossy scarab]

yeah it popped up on my feed its not someone ive ever seen before

[hollow pasture]

Hmmm

[flint wave]

[vestal ibex]

You watched one crappy build video. Here have another.

[remote shadow]

What’s a better dmg set up

[hollow pasture]

Shd 85 with a amazing striker build already
We need more like you

[remote shadow]

Had it in 2 days 😂

[hollow pasture]

Although for general content you want a obliterate ceska chest instead of striker chest

But this good to get you started

[flint wave]

You'd be surprised the amount of shd 40-90 having BIS striker builds lately in countdown

[remote shadow]

You get more 100 more stacks

[flint wave]

Only difference is they don't always have coyotes

[remote shadow]

Took me the full 2 days for it

[hollow pasture]

Is this build for you to run the incursion?

[remote shadow]

Na it’s the only build I have

Need a build for this

[hollow pasture]

Eclipse protocol

[remote shadow]

What stats do you need on the gear

[flint wave]

fire eclipse is the popular pick

[hollow pasture]

Status effect and haste all over

[remote shadow]

Time to run countdowns 😂

[hollow pasture]

It's pretty easy to set up
Also need a eletrique piece
4 piece eclipse
Chest and backpack
One piece eletrique with status
And vile

[onyx sage]

you can't keep that many in practice

unless you're against very tanky enemies which only holds in incursion, raids or sometimes legendary

in open world or just casual activities enemies die too quick for you to even reach 100 stacks let alone 200

[cursive gull]

basically what happens 75% of the time we boot up the game

[glossy scarab]

damn the 20% pistol dmg makes a big difference with this build. the douglas and harding bag makes it hit about a million more damage per bullet than the prov bag

[onyx sage]

of course it does

you get 200% hsd already equipping the pistol that you're not gonna notice prov's bonus

[tulip charm]

hh scales with wep damage

[round zinc]

.03

[onyx sage]

math?

[vapid latch]

how can i go about making a lmg tank build?

[hexed steppe]

maybe heartbreaker.. build bonus armor and damage at the same time. the more blue cores you run the less effective it will be for pve though

[shy willow]

Unfortunately tanks and lmgs even separately aren't particularly good

[brisk barn]

some people become informed very quickly

I had my strikers at SHD 30 and Healer at 60

if you're willing to inform yourself you will go places quickly

[hexed steppe]

doesnt hurt that we get to stand on the shoulders of giants

[gentle lichen]

I feel that being misinformed or not informed at all can strip the enjoyment out of the game

[pearl carbon]

I don't be getting catharsis I swear so it takes 30 hits to proc is there a cool down I swear I barely get any healing circles

[tawdry flare]

Cause you move out of area of heal

Which is invisible

[dreamy valve]

Hmm might use Cathy for deflect shield

[pearl carbon]

Explains alot tbh 🤣

[gentle lichen]

An idea is brewing

[slate wedge]

need to farm a purple set too

[glossy scarab]

this has to be a joke. what. the. fig

[abstract raft]

Welcome to RNGesus

[violet smelt]

For a 1 shot rifle/pistol build (determined & headhunter)
Which one is better?
4 pcs hunter's fury or all high end yellow gear with contractor's glove & fox's prayer

[hexed steppe]

Colorblind mode should outline the radius in white

[tulip charm]

It depends, HF has more utility but HE has access to stuff like dch so pick your poison.

[shy willow]

There's very specific builds that utilise both dch and hf but it's pretty delicate

[red flame]

and dodge city exotic holster

with contractor and fox's prayer and punch drunk

works like a charm

[tulip charm]

Also it depends if you’re aggressive enough to fully use hf stacks

cant really go wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet smelt]

This is my loadout rn
I'm lucky I'm not farming those just getting all of those pieces lol
All maxed out and rolled into headshot dmg ofc

I'm thinking hunter's fury is better because it can confusing enemies?

[red flame]

max dmg you got with this...?

[hexed steppe]

I use this . Hunters fury is handy though with the crowd control and close range amp

[tulip charm]

What local said cc, close range amp, also the aok is very handy. Also Pummel M870 is cool.

I like HE better since I got a decent claws out 😊

[violet smelt]

Oh you're right
I have claws out too that i never use
I was wondering what I'll use for holster so i use picaro

[violet smelt]

That SHD lvl tho
Wow

Another question:
What does dmg to armor mean?
Extra dmg to white bars above enemy's health or actual armor plates like in robot dogs & fat minigunner?

[red flame]

afaik it's that white bar
the armor plates you mentioned needs health dmg (if you belive it)

for both chunga and warhounds

[hexed steppe]

Yeah 👆

Sledgehammer talent will increase damage to regular armor and the plates though

[tulip charm]

Keep it a secret so it doesn’t get nerfed into the ground

[glossy scarab]

it wont. it requires throwing a grenade and landing the hit. that knocks it down a peg

[red flame]

there's also a thing for that....

but i'm afraid it's official server sooo..... :)

[glossy scarab]

ok

good one

i mean if we're nit picking. a talent is part of a build but whatevs.

[gentle lichen]

Incendiary grenade:

[glossy scarab]

works great in certani situations. im just saying you can't have it procced all that much in regular pve (but in raids and incursion you get lots of opportunities to use it)

[gentle lichen]

Pvp quite literally meta to have a kard with sledge

[glossy scarab]

yea i know this

[gentle lichen]

Things die too fast. Why waste time to throw nade and wait for it to explode. Unless facing hunters or legendary

[glossy scarab]

nono thats not what i was saying. i just meant was its a talent thats not always on and that is the only downside. but of course its so strong that having it on all the time would be crazy. just realizing that now.

it was an offhand comment. i wasnt fkin filing a federal case against sledgehammer

[hexed steppe]

Anytime you have a spawn you can predict sledge can be easily procced.
And yeah survivalist nade.
I use sledge on Cc eclipse so everything is stuck when its procced 😎

[glossy scarab]

yeah i use lefty all the time in paradise lost

i havent tried it with the firewall grenade. it has a good aoe

[gentle lichen]

Imagine if sledge is considered status

Sledge spread

[glossy scarab]

that would be nuts

it would give me a reson to use firm handshake

[red flame]

nah that's just explosion.....

[glossy scarab]

ah

[red flame]

but fire remains for a bit

[hexed steppe]

That would be so broken 🤣
Devs, let's make this happen 💯

[glossy scarab]

whats with the extra periods sir or madam? are you trying to imply something i dont know what thats meant to mean

plus, the aoe consists of the area affected by that explosion so i dont know what the beginning of the post is saying either

[red flame]

like i said - fire of the fire grenade also applies sledgehammer

even if you didn't equipped the gun at the time of explosion

[glossy scarab]

yea and its better. did i say firewall nade was better? no i said i havent even tried it with sledge

[red flame]

suit yourself mate

[glossy scarab]

thank you

[red flame]

np

[glossy scarab]

i dont mind being heckled a bit. its a good check yourself moment if the person has a point and isnt just antogonizing you

[tawdry flare]

Eclipse spreads sledgehammer too which is nice same with creeping death

[hexed steppe]

I havent noticed this happen.

[tawdry flare]

It does if you have weapon with sledgehammer on

The moment it spreads

I am talking about cc from grenade

[hexed steppe]

90% of the time I'm hitting a spawn and everything in the aoe. I'll test it in the range later tho

[tawdry flare]

BTW

[placid cove]

Just got Lady Death, would that be worth running as main weapon on a striker build? Or is the famas still better?

[hushed gorge]

Just got The Regulas

Can anybody Suggest me a Regulas Build
Tanky build would be much appreciated

[quiet sparrow]

is there a reason why my HB stack stacking so slow? I have technician laser attachment. But it looks like some of my shots are not stacking. Even if I stand in front of enemy I cant get 50% stacks.

[hexed steppe]

Check out the regulus headhunter build in the spreadsheet.
And congrats 🍻

[wheat anchor]

It would work better with a hunters fury + banshee pulse build

For now stick to your AR with striker

[tawdry flare]

If you want tankiness and survivability go memento + 4pcs Hunters fury + D&H chest with headhunter and firewall spec

[hushed gorge]

Thnx

[tawdry flare]

Go all red though you have enough survivability people have cleared legendary solo with the build it should serve you good

[hushed gorge]

They got skills man
Me noob💀

I ll give it a try tho

[tawdry flare]

Everyone is a noob in the beginning no one is born learning everything

[brisk barn]

tell that to my ass who can't hit enemy heads while they standing still

[tawdry flare]

As the local 🦊 would have said SkillIssue™ get gud

[vestal atlas]

HB has always been pretty inconsistent with its stacking, especially when compared to striker, seems to not count all the hits even when it should, havent really seen anyone have a great idea of what is causing it.
but that there is a issue there and not always stacking as much as it should is clear, especially when you rewatch stacking side by side with striker

and that is on top of the pulse laser not always wanting to pulse, but that is a seperate issue

[quiet sparrow]

iteresting, because I was trying the stacks on shooting range and it looked fine, in open world I wasnt able to get to at least 40%

[tawdry flare]

I honestly feel HB waste of time imo due to the inconsistency I have on my alt but rarely use it

With striker dmg is always there

[gentle lichen]

Stacking HB without acs is completely not an option

Even ouro

[tawdry flare]

Ouro is trash on HB IMO it's wasted an M4 will outperform it after like 30-40 stacks I assume

[quiet sparrow]

for sure there must be an issue with registering the stacks, I am spamming the enemy in countdown and I am hardly getting any stacks...

on practice range it works fine

[glossy scarab]

maybe you're missing more shots that you realize or you're only pelting enemies with bullets in fairly short burts because they die a lot faster with a handful of other players shooting them with you

are you using an ACS automatic shotty to stack, or are you just letting your primary weapon do it, (its much slower and hard to maintain that way)

[quiet sparrow]

its weird, sometimes that technician pulse attachment doesnt pulse at all

[glossy scarab]

yeah its a little unreliable

[quiet sparrow]

shame, I think I will try different build

[glossy scarab]

which is why i always aim for the head especially with HB

[hushed gorge]

Tf is this man?

[glossy scarab]

new game mode called incursion

[hushed gorge]

Me (who Has all the Raid exclusive weapons) watching this website
🔥this is fine💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥

St Elmos PvE build for 170$
Seems reasonable

[glossy scarab]

what in the world i just realized that these are so pricey

[quiet sparrow]

and what about striker build, is it okay to run it with blue cores or is it not worth and everything should be put to red? Also what I dont get is when you are all RED cores with striker you must be melted instantly by AI no?

[hushed gorge]

I run strikers 4pcs with 2 blue cores

And 4 reds

Its doing pretty well

[glossy scarab]

you survive by eliminating enemires faster than they can kill you. and also tactics

[quiet sparrow]

yeah but even from behind cover something you just peek for a sec and get hit

[glossy scarab]

tactics is the key. like standing in places that have a barrier like a bus in between you and the enemies so that the guys you arent focusing on cant kill you while you get in position to take them out one at a time

[brisk barn]

Unfortunate gaming

I blame my gaming chair

[tawdry flare]

At least you are not blaming 5.11

[quiet sparrow]

maybe at start I will start striker with more blue cores and when I think its ok I will switch to red one by one

[glossy scarab]

i actually got a whole bunch better when i got a new mouse to replace my old one which was 15 yrs old

[azure torrent]

When health damage is optimised, is this the correct setup for AR builds? I have strained on.

[glossy scarab]

yup

[fallen comet]

whats the talent?

[quiet sparrow]

what skill are you running? what do you think about banshee from gunner spec?

[flint wave]

Blue cores are perfectly fine just know which kind of content stacking damage is noticeably more effective then the added survivability

like countdown

or 4 player stuff

[azure torrent]

Strained

[tepid trout]

I prefer optimist on famas since it's burst dps I'd prefer strained on a carbine or m4

[urban latch]

Strained will slightly beat out optimist on a FAMAS. They are both burst anyways

[hushed gorge]

Banshee is good
But I run Riot Foam and Sheild

[hushed gorge]

Strained is kinda useless on High RPM weapons imo

Like Famas,Vector

Strained on Carbine,M4 or P416 is good

[glossy scarab]

yea they say its worth it anyway but i dont use it on 850-900+ rpm guns.. carb7 is the fastest rpm i use strained on

[magic pilot]

Strained will outperform optimist on a vector

[hushed gorge]

If u say so👍

[hushed gorge]

Did u try it?
Can you send me some dmg outputs?

[glossy scarab]

spreadsheet or it didnt happen

[hushed gorge]

Yes

[glossy scarab]

im kidding tho i dont care

[hushed gorge]

This seems kinda questionable

You need to fire continuously
And per 0.5 secs,you ll get 10% CHD

Vector has like 1200 RPM if i am not wrong

Optimist scales on Weapon dmg

[blissful rampart]

this is correct FYI, even on vector strained out dps optimist (though its close).

and even on famas, strained out dps optimist. strained is a ~9% dps boost vs optimist ~6% (on famas on a red build)

[hexed steppe]

@blissful rampart binging the receipts

[onyx sage]

strained my beloved

[flint wave]

actum est my beloved

[slate nest]

1.0s ouroboros my beloved

[hexed steppe]

didnt seem to spread with the cc , just affected what was in aoe of grenade. that 5.11 probably unlocked god level cc for you as well 😆

[tulip charm]

Why would you even try it when Sledgehammer is a debuff?

[tawdry flare]

Its a grenade debuff so if you Kil something with fire grenade it should spread sledgehammer @urban latch @blissful rampart

[tawdry flare]

Bonus question does the scanner pulse and deployable pulse stacks with each other during oc

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense seal]

No in order from Sledge to activate it needs to be from the actual Nade, not the spread.

[tawdry flare]

What about my second question of you know?

[onyx sage]

gogogamer spreading misinformation like a champ

[rich cosmos]

Does incoming repairs not work on the fixer drone?

[onyx sage]

it should

[dense seal]

Honestly, no clue.
Mostly just because I have never seen anyone use the Remote Scanner Pulse.

[rich cosmos]

It doesn’t feel like it is at all

[onyx sage]

it should work the same way as with repair skills

[tawdry flare]

Who is gogamer

[dense seal]

It does. However, Fixer drone is "buggy"
Essentially you need to sit still for ages to get the full benefit of healing.

[rich cosmos]

I see

I finally see, its really shit healing, debating if I want to lose out on even more damage for another incoming repair mod

Probably not

[flint wave]

5

[tawdry flare]

You can use repair chems

[tawdry flare]

11

[dense seal]

I use the Repair Chem.

[rich cosmos]

I wanted to incorporate self healing into a basic striker build, I feel like the chems would take too long

[tawdry flare]

Use preservation and gunner

20-30% aok

[dense seal]

Strikers does not exactly NEED more damage so have you though about putting Preservation as your weapon Talent?

[onyx sage]

chem would also heal your shield more if you do use a shield so there's extra incentive

[rich cosmos]

Whats preservation

[onyx sage]

weapon talent, healing on kill

[tawdry flare]

A talent that gives 10-20% armour back over 5 sec

[dense seal]

Enemy kills restor 10% Armour, Head Shot kills give another 10%,

[tawdry flare]

Gunner spec gives straight up 10% aok

[rich cosmos]

Ill check it out I guess

[tawdry flare]

Combine those for the heals

[flint wave]

use deathgrips screw preservation

[onyx sage]

aok is different from preservation, preservation is more powerful too. frankly it's the best place (weapon talent) to sacrifice some damage for some sustain because power balancing for weapon talents makes them not that impactful

[tawdry flare]

And you have to do the most striker thing kill NPCs

[flint wave]

[rich cosmos]

Oh so the talent is literally just armor on kill but over a few seconds?

[onyx sage]

preservation procs from killing basically anything while aok only procs from killing humans

[tawdry flare]

Yeah

[flint wave]

I cant believe you wouldn't recommend deathgrips

[tawdry flare]

He need to farm a lot

[flint wave]

only good 5.11 piece

[rich cosmos]

I have it on an alright famas atm, just need to change a couple stats on it and I’ll try it out

[onyx sage]

i'm a preservation salesman so i'd take preservation over aok anyday

[tawdry flare]

Binoculars will chew you down with his aim if you speak more 5.11

[dense seal]

We should be friends

[onyx sage]

if i have to make a choice

i'm roaming here every day dod 🤣

[dense seal]

I sometimes forget here exists.
I spend my days in a perpectually sleepy state lately.

I miss poking Azurmen though. Not spoken to him in a while.

[tawdry flare]

Use the word focus and he will appear

[onyx sage]

i'm on a project these days figuring out legendary enemies' effective HP, and then i see fog posting the video about enemy HP. not trying to join the ongoing debate but it's something i've already been working on and seeing it being brought up is interesting

[dense seal]

You guys keep me humble too.
Not been in here and a while and I then end up making a mess.

[tawdry flare]

Why don't you kill one and force the stats screen

[onyx sage]

i'm stuck on chunga and dog armor plates, and those do not show up in mission end screen

the actual chunga and dog health can be captured with it tho

[flint wave]

this is the true endgame of div2

finding chunga health

[rich cosmos]

Whoever suggested preservation I think its pretty neat, I’ll try it out more

[dense seal]

Yeah that is the mess.
He is 100% correct. If you only play DC and Solo.
Rikers by themselves mess with all of it. As does multiplayer and he is doing this for some sort of "Average NPC"
Problem is with taking an average, you need to take everything into account.
Solo, Duo, 3 player, 4 player, Raids, Incursion, Rikers, and finally, as well as have fun with this, Descent.

[tawdry flare]

Yeah armour plating can be ifdy but what about survivalist bow it just blasts through plating

[flint wave]

Incursion is already calculated in another vid

[dense seal]

There are also many spots where you can just bypass it, on Warhounds we one shot them anyway.

[dense seal]

But it is not taken into account of this "average npc"

[tawdry flare]

Yeah ik but don't have one for the guy with the machine gun except for leg crit or hh

[dense seal]

The hinge holding the weapon. It cannot be aiming at you though.

[onyx sage]

i'm for sure only going to do legendary values at this point, and for sure not going to do descent. i'm only interested in legendary TCing haha

[tawdry flare]

Tc?

[onyx sage]

theorycrafting

[tawdry flare]

Are you sure about that one ?

[tawdry flare]

I thought Transfer certificate

[onyx sage]

i can hit that spot while it's aiming at me, but it is quite hard

just because it aiming sideways makes the surface area a lot bigger

[dense seal]

70%. I have seen people do it, but cannot be 100% where tehy were aiming.
@onyx sage Yeah, we only seemed to be able to do it in Group Speeds on DUA legendary. Someone had to EPM and get the initial agro, another moved in and hit the leg or hinge of the weapon

[tawdry flare]

The red joint is the weirdest one

[onyx sage]

i completely agree with that, in groups it's just best to EMP it

[dense seal]

If you get the agro and EMP, despite the fact that the warhound is down, the gun still follows you. So you need someone else to do it.

[tawdry flare]

It pauses him for a second or two

[onyx sage]

iirc when grenade dog is EMP'd, the grenade turret along with the hinge is reset to the default position

[flint wave]

I hate it when grenade dog faces his ass toward me

[onyx sage]

but i might be wrong on that, need to revisit my clips. i do run solo quite often

[tawdry flare]

I hate it when he shoots with 511% accuracy out of nowhere

[dense seal]

@visual acorn knows them quite well. Perhaps he can actually enlighten us.
All the weakpoints on the Warhounds aside from the legs.
I recall one of them being the Hinge that holds the weapon?

[onyx sage]

it's for grenade dogs yeah

[tawdry flare]

Yeah ik that

[onyx sage]

there's a doc linked on azur's sheet with them too

[tawdry flare]

It's difficult to shoot though sometimes when he is facing you

[dense seal]

This is why we just got for the legs.

[tawdry flare]

Sniper dog doesn't show you his ass but shoots you in your ass

[flint wave]

Grenade dog gun and sniper dog butt

[tawdry flare]

Or just HH

[flint wave]

and then for all dogs stuff ur gun past their armor

[onyx sage]

that's what i have to do for minigun dogs yeah

[tawdry flare]

You can always use demo firefly if you wanna one shot them

[flint wave]

Fire dog has no armor

[tawdry flare]

Does he has any weakness?

[onyx sage]

not for direct damage

[tawdry flare]

If you have it oc

[dense seal]

You mean Sparkle?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[tawdry flare]

It does direct damage

Afaik

[onyx sage]

talking about minigun dog boss

lol

[tawdry flare]

I meant with demo firefly lol 😂

[onyx sage]

you said "weakness" which i guessed meant you were asking weakness for direct damage

demo firefly doesn't count because it's a big exception

[dense seal]

Technically, everything is weak to bullets.

[tawdry flare]

My bad for confusing you but yeah

[flint wave]

Yeah

My favorite Fire dog

[tawdry flare]

HotDog

[flint wave]

[dense seal]

We found a way to one shot it. Was annoying though

[flint wave]

I saw it get one shot with rav and negotiator

[tawdry flare]

Need yahl 🦄

[onyx sage]

there's heller's video on speedrunning killing it named "hot dog speed kill". the title is funny but it's basically striker 200 mowing it down

[tawdry flare]

Yeah 😂

[flint wave]

Too bad he didn't use bloody knuckles

[tawdry flare]

I remember switching to regulus for final room for first time

[dense seal]

Heller is a beast.
Taught me how to do Legendary DUA CC.

[tawdry flare]

He should have used sleigher

[flint wave]

👴

Snow vs fire

[onyx sage]

i look up to his team for strategies too, adapting them for solo strats where applicable because i mostly do solo runs

[flint wave]

Except that one outcast boss in kenly

[tawdry flare]

I finally did capitol took me 46 mins

[onyx sage]

doing all 5 strongholds with 6 red is an achievement that i'm glad i've been able to do before next patch

[flint wave]

Red builds dieing next update😭

[tawdry flare]

Shiled peeking is RIP so regulus or HF SCORPIO intimidate

[flint wave]

I mean red dps builds

[tawdry flare]

Regulus is 6 red