td2-build-advice

[hushed gorge]

😭

[onyx sage]

sadist maybe in pvp with ridgeway or in OD

optimist also in pvp

since you have some blue cores now it's also good but not really beating out strained at 2 blues

[flint wave]

Run 2 blues to get max optimist value

[hushed gorge]

i also have red core extra gears

but i have skill issue,so added 2 blue just to be alive

[onyx sage]

you don't have to run all red if you don't want to

just go with 2 blues if you like it

[hushed gorge]

I dont use coyote in group play as at least one teammate will use it anyways

[onyx sage]

i mean, one teammate proccing it isn't why you don't use it

[hushed gorge]

hmm

[onyx sage]

it's when you have all 3 buffs active so your coyote is useless

so 3+ teammates

[hushed gorge]

almost everyone uses coyote

in countdown

[onyx sage]

well sure in countdown and raid yes

[hushed gorge]

so i dont use that

[onyx sage]

but 4 man groups exist

[flint wave]

In 4 player I can barely get one other guy to run coyote

[hushed gorge]

Last time i played on a 4man team was Incursion

[onyx sage]

you haven't played much legendary then

[hushed gorge]

summit solo legendary

[onyx sage]

in solo you run coyote lol

[hushed gorge]

yes

with ouroboros

[onyx sage]

with any dps

but anyway in legendary you have from 1-3 dps with coyote, then FI or EP

[hushed gorge]

If I use coyote on AR build
i will need the Strained Talent

[flint wave]

no you won't

[onyx sage]

you don't need it

those 2 don't have to be run together, but those 2 together are optimal

[hushed gorge]

43 CHC

[flint wave]

how

[hushed gorge]

.

[flint wave]

strained gives chd

[hushed gorge]

oh

[flint wave]

[onyx sage]

the coyote buff you use most often is 10% chc 10% chd

so you want 50% chc

[hushed gorge]

yes
50+ will do

[tawdry flare]

Perfect optimist coming in clutch

[tidal valve]

I myself can agree to this as to my DPS build is striker comp with ceska and grupo with famas 2010 strained talent

75+ stack can guarantee 600k damage crit 👍

[hushed gorge]

coz of Busy Little Bee, i can do 1M dmg easily

a nice buff from Busy Little Bee

[tidal valve]

True true, it's a good pistol after all

[marsh nebula]

Kind of a dumb question but how can I build up my Striker stacks? I just got the build recently and so far I've been getting the stacks with the ACS-12 up close. But in some missions all the enemies are far away and I tend to push too far in with the shotgun to get my stacks and I end up getting surrounded and dying. Would it be fine to just build up the stacks with the AR in those circumstances or is there a more effective way?

[gentle lichen]

If you can stack from a chunga turret true son heavy go for it

If you can't don't risk it

Slowly stack with an ar

[tidal valve]

Me building my striker stacks with famas 2010

It's not that slow, but it's not that fast 🤣

[gentle lichen]

It's easy

I use famas as secondary to ouro

[tidal valve]

Good choice, sadly I don't have ouro

[marsh nebula]

So building the stacks with the famas would be fine?

[gentle lichen]

Very much so

[tidal valve]

If you have sturdy extended mag 5.56, and fast reload

[gentle lichen]

It's 17 bullets per second so not very hard if you keep your scope on the enemy

[tidal valve]

You guys use C79 scope? 🤔

[gentle lichen]

By that i meant crosshair

But on that topic i use an 8x for focus striker's build

Absolute beamer

[marsh nebula]

Aight thank you guys

[tidal valve]

WHA-

[gentle lichen]

Never heard of it?

[tidal valve]

Never, I suprised you use it like that

[gentle lichen]

It's coupled with the shield peek method

Creds to @onyx sage

[hazy steeple]

Might as well use it whilst you can.

[tidal valve]

My Lord... What is that scope... I've seen so many cursed attachment on a gun, but this one is probably top 10 in my list (although seeing it was useful)

[gentle lichen]

My baby 😿

It was my crutch to solo leggies

[gentle lichen]

Look for solo legendary clears. Most if not all use this tactic

[tidal valve]

Make sense

[slate nest]

brrrrrrrrr

[tidal valve]

Now i'm jealous

[hazy steeple]

It's just a fast vector. You can get one yourself via the Incursion with some luck.

[hollow pasture]

In time for golden bullet

[tidal valve]

"Some luck" : me never get any exclusive exotic item

[hollow pasture]

Even more brrrrrrrrrr

[tulip charm]

Just download more luck

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow pasture]

Me having to use my 3 characters to get my first oreo

[gentle lichen]

Download RAMs while you're at that

[tidal valve]

When I get eagle bearer : The time for ouroboros to come home has come

[tulip charm]

thats quite lucky

[hollow pasture]

Perfect time to get eb
It's also getting buffed

[gentle lichen]

My 2nd try with netted me the ouro

[hollow pasture]

What's lucky is getting it dropped from a boss

[tidal valve]

Yep, also, does anyone remember what the ravenous talent is?

[hollow pasture]

Swap shoulders bonus armor
More damage smth smth damage to armor plating

Used in niche situations

[tidal valve]

Yesterday I did raid with my clan, instead of getting eagle bearer, I got sweet dreams 😭

[gentle lichen]

Right shoulder boom boom left shoulder bonus armor and armor plating amplified damage

[tulip charm]

in a raid?

[hollow pasture]

That's sweet hope you slept well

[tidal valve]

Dark hours yes

[tulip charm]

Hahah you poor soul

[tidal valve]

No I did not

[hollow pasture]

But sweet dreams 😦

[tidal valve]

Also I catch the joke quite late lol

[tidal valve]

But it doesn't give me sweet dreams 😭 it instead gives me nightmare

[tulip charm]

wdym nightmares? those are sweet components

[hushed gorge]

was lazy but did it anyways

[hollow pasture]

Chatter will be pretty good once you can roll dttooc on it next season

[gentle lichen]

The utility with chatter may actually make it a better choice over ouro

[tulip charm]

utility?

[hushed gorge]

yes
but now its a Budget Ourroboros

[gentle lichen]

Kills refill 50% of mag

[tulip charm]

Oh

[hollow pasture]

Yep
Much more fun talent

[gentle lichen]

It doesn't take bullets

[hollow pasture]

Actually a cool talent unlike oreo lmao

[tulip charm]

Last time I used chatter was for floor 10

[hollow pasture]

Oxy?

[tulip charm]

yeah

[hollow pasture]

Lol

[tulip charm]

basically the first and last time I touched it

[rich lotus]

One question guys, I already have an ouroboros, can I get another one in an Exotic Cache/drop or just from the raid?

[tulip charm]

Only raid

[gentle lichen]

Just incursion

[rich lotus]

Ok, thanks

[hushed gorge]

man

it might be a cool weapon next season

coz u will be able to chng 3rd attribute

[tulip charm]

You know whats not gonna be cool? My components!

gonna have to reroll everything...

[tidal valve]

speaking of oykkyo's luck, i just got a third BLB today

[hushed gorge]

i got 3 bighorn yesterday instead of blb
Gave @elder fractal 2x Bighorn

but got blb anyways

[tidal valve]

your luck and my luck is like earth and sky lmao

[hushed gorge]

3 more days and i can get the regulas

Chatterbox is good actually

[hollow pasture]

Without dttooc rn it falls off in heroic and group scaling tbh

[hushed gorge]

played some heroic content with chatterbox, i can say its good kinda

not the best but ok

Chatterbox with Dttooc will be good

[merry drift]

how to get this scop

[tawdry flare]

Sharpshooter specialization need to invest point in either MMR or Rifle category in specialization tree

[hushed gorge]

is bullet king worth it?

where does it drop?

[tawdry flare]

Definitely not worth it in live game but it drops from lmg tl in countdown

[hushed gorge]

live game means pvp?

[hollow pasture]

That and increased chance on rikers missions

[hollow pasture]

Current game
As in not pts changes

[hushed gorge]

Theo Parnell mission?
that NYC expansion Manhunt one?

[hollow pasture]

That and wall street
But ur best bet is countdown

[hushed gorge]

thnx

[merry drift]

is this bad build for oneshot sniper?

i have already try it not one shot some named npcs

[hollow pasture]

This is what I run
Don't pay attention to the weapons just imagine there's a white death there

[hushed gorge]

i am thinking to make a sniper build

tried many different builds but never tried any sniper build

[hollow pasture]

4 piece or 3 piece hotshot
Chain killer named chest araldi BP with vigilance or hotshot backpack

[acoustic flame]

Anyone made a build with the new seasonal lmg yet? Was playing around with it last night.... It's pretty good...

[tame crane]

if you want to run sniper build I would say a 3pc Hotshot is MINIMUM, that 30% hs dmg extra for the third piece is big

this is what I run, so good

just the standard build from the spreedsheat

[tame crane]

you should, wasnt really my playstyle i thought, but man it is so fun using in freeroam activities

[hushed gorge]

alright
Now busy with Ridgeway Pride component

[devout iris]

any good ar bleed builds for pve?

[hexed steppe]

Ongoing directive, but it's more of a support /team buff build

Gives team bleed ammo that amps damage 20% iirc

Nothing like the og predators mark from d1

[devout iris]

so how many pieces of OD i need to be with red core and blue core here

[hexed steppe]

For pve probably 6red with crit stats (only 4 od).

There are better dps builds that do more damage without the bleed mechanic though.
Nego and striker both very strong.
Check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel 📌

[sullen sun]

Anyone have a good stinger hive build?

For PvP

[cinder gazelle]

3pc empress 2pc wyvern 1 electriuqe. All skill dmg and status effects glass cannon and creeping death. Fire sticky with stinger hive.

[sullen sun]

Perfect gc?

[cinder gazelle]

No regular because you have 6pcs already and perfect glass won't make a difference in dmg

[sullen sun]

Mind sending an example of the build?

I’m assuming Electrique on the chest?

[blissful inlet]

Anyone have a AR build for dz ?

[round hound]

hey im looking for good builds for legendary content i'd like to farm good mods but countdown isnt giving me good stuff

somebody have a good build to share plz ?

[urban latch]

Check the Google doc that's pinned

Bunch of guides in there. Main legendary builds to start with would be striker and nego

[hushed gorge]

tomorrow gonna get the ridgeway

[heavy hinge]

any good lmg dps builds out there?

[tulip charm]

You just pick your favorite lmg and run it in a red dps

[heavy hinge]

ahhh ok

[final marlin]

just rolled this, any decent lmg build to pair this with?

[hushed gorge]

Bruh
All LMGs☠️☠️

[final marlin]

i collect leave me alone

[hushed gorge]

I didn't even say any bad to you😅

Whatever

[final marlin]

i know, i was sayin it jokingly

[wise swallow]

4 pc striker with backpack

oblit/unbreakable

max out crit with whatever brands you need

EB

can use elmo if you wanna be gay but EB will be stronger most of the time

[flint wave]

or you don't have eb

[wise swallow]

famas

Ouro

uhhh thats about it lol

just get EB

[sullen sun]

What mods do you use for stinger build?

Duration?

[hushed gorge]

eh?

didnt even craft it and got it on Exotic Cache

💀 ☠️

now it wont let me craft it
Summit grind was nothing but waste then

[vestal ibex]

lol once you have the blueprint it can drop from the general pool. Try putting it on an alt character and going back to your other one and crafting it.

[hushed gorge]

oh,thats y it dropped on exotic cache

man
all those 100 flr grind ☠️
didnt enjoy the ending
gonna try the blueprint on alt

[cursive gull]

wanted TDI Kard but got this instead....

[tawdry flare]

That is nice NGL

[cursive gull]

Don't really know what to use it for though

[vestal ibex]

HSD PVP build?

[cursive gull]

Maybe, who knows

[lime marsh]

What's the best third attribute for iron lungs?mine got god roll with max CC

[flint wave]

critical hit chance

[lime marsh]

People suggest me to go DTA or CC,i dont know the difference

[tawdry flare]

DTA is damage to armour it is the DMG you deal to enemy white bars while CC is Crit Chance an RNG attribute in the game that affects DMG it is capped at 60% it is calculated in conjunction with CHD Crit Damage : CHC X CHD the higher the ratio the better it is

[lime marsh]

So better get cc for iron lungs?

[dense seal]

LMG should be Crit Chance or ROF.

[wary vortex]

apart from coyote mask, what other exotic gear can boost weapon damage?

i remember theres one more?

[gentle lichen]

Bloody knuckles

Memento

[wary vortex]

ty

[gentle lichen]

DCH

[wary vortex]

if theres only 3 exotics that can contribute to this

[gentle lichen]

Sawyer's

[wary vortex]

or 4, i will go for striker

but man 1-5% RNG is like gacha to me lmao

[harsh kelp]

Hey i try doing sniper (marksman) builds but i rarely see ppl like this is coop. Is it viable in any pve mode?

[hexed steppe]

Mostly. Not as much in countdown or incursion where you need solid dps.
Open world/missions and sniper 1 shot build are pretty good tho.
Pretty easy to build as well

[harsh kelp]

Ah tx any place to find uptodate builds?

[hazy steeple]

All the builds listed in the spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel are up to date.

it's also full of other useful info, very much worth a skim through and keeping around for future reference.

[hexed steppe]

Pins have it all

[harsh kelp]

Hmm i see 3yr old reddit posts but at home i have saved an xls as i remember

[hazy steeple]

This is the good one.

[hexed steppe]

The spreadsheet is pinned in this channel. Its updated for every season.

[harsh kelp]

Ah ye ok so content is good. I seen it has raid builds but not rly pve ones or am i wrong? Or i should just check those?

(On hub/builds tab)

[hazy steeple]

All builds are PvE except for the "PvP" link.

[sullen sun]

What mods do you use for stinger build?

[harsh kelp]

Ah ok ima check those at home tx. Generally i should try to stash interesting stats and every talent once at least in yellows right? (Fresh 40)

[hazy steeple]

Your best bet right now is to find a build that looks like fun and just work on making that a reality for you.
A great starter is Umbra, it gets you used to staying on cover and playing smart, something that's very important with most "red" builds.

My preferred order for loot when I was a newbie was:
Keep if needed > Recalibration Library > Expertise > Break down > Sell.

[hexed steppe]

Range/damge/haste/+4 stinger
It's also pretty good with btsu gloves 😉

[sullen sun]

Wdym range, dmg? Also +4 stinger?

[hexed steppe]

Stinger hive.. unless I'm misinterpreting your meaning of stinger

Correct me if so

[sullen sun]

No, I just didn’t understand the +4 part

[hexed steppe]

There are mods for +4 charges for the different hives

[sullen sun]

Good to know, I’ve been playing since May and I didn’t know that

[hexed steppe]

I been maining this lately. Hive will work well on regular skill build as well

[harsh kelp]

Recalib - u need to decide u grab a stat or a talent right?
Expertise - can u detail this? We donate stuff to raise smthg as i know but i can donate random yellows or need higher rank items?

[sullen sun]

The one I was using

[hexed steppe]

Items gain proficiency from use and donations.
Proficiency on multiple items raises your expertise.
Expertise determines how many upgrades you can put on a proficient item

[hexed steppe]

That's solid

Try tech support /combined arms/shock and awe bag talents if you want a bit more damage

[gentle lichen]

Pvp

[hexed steppe]

Oic

[harsh kelp]

So overall i ll need to use lots of different ARs if i wanna do an AR build? + donate ARs to be prof + expertise to have?

That way i ll have more options + dmg if im right?

[hexed steppe]

Well you'll proficient the stuff you use a lot naturally. If you run countdown and target weapon types you can donate all those that arent needed. Each weapon will be 20 donations or a mix of donations/usage

If you have a lot of excess materials you can donate some of those as well to individual items

But anything you proficient will raise overall expertise level so if you main an ar you dont necessarily need to focus leveling ar.
Weapons and skills are the hardest to get the most proficient and is a better focus than brand/gearsets

[harsh kelp]

Does it matter what rank the to be donated item is?

[hexed steppe]

At rank 10 an item is proficient and wont take donations

At rank 10 they are able to take expertise upgrades though

[harsh kelp]

Ok tx a lot, saving these and checking need to try 😉

[hexed steppe]

There is a donate junk button as well so if you mark anything not needed as junk you can auto donate all that and anything left can be broke down for mats 👍

[sullen sun]

What attributes do you use?

[hexed steppe]

I use all skill damage/some haste and pfe mods. But its pve setup, if using for pvp the pfe would be useless to you

[sullen sun]

What’s your PvP setup?

[hexed steppe]

I dont use one, dont really pvp

[harsh kelp]

Just to clarify all junk will go to the appropriate cat / type of weapon this way. I cant level a xy called ar with a pistol right?

[hexed steppe]

Correct

[harsh kelp]

I need the exact ar or any ar?

[sullen sun]

Would your setup be ok you think?

[hexed steppe]

Items will donate to the specific model they are.
If you break items to materials, those materials can be donated wherever you want 👍

[harsh kelp]

Clear tx 🙂 lot to learn .. :p

[hexed steppe]

Idk, tbh. They are similar but creeping probably has more use in pvp than I would find in pve

[sullen sun]

Think the Vile mask would work with my build?

[tulip charm]

No

[simple vapor]

Is it worth running Flatline talent on a Ar with the Heartbreaker gearset? Or is it redundant?

[slate wedge]

definietly worth it

[iron hill]

hi guys im back on division 2 and no idea what to do anymore, been gone for tooo long xD is there anyone that wants to help me a bit with builds and stuff? would be great and nice. Thanks 🙂

[cosmic ferry]

What does red mean?

[cosmic ferry]

Check pins

[hexed steppe]

Red builds are dps, red core builds

Sniper fits as well as a red build

[cosmic ferry]

What are some popular solo PvE builds?

[hexed steppe]

Striker dps
Eclipse status fire
Nego dps
Hotshot headshot

There are a bunch listed in the pinned spreadsheet

[slate wedge]

good luck surviving

[hexed steppe]

where is the part of the video with the 4x reload/bleeds leading up to those 200 backfire stacks?

[tulip charm]

Thats the thing people dont realize

Good luck maintaining 200 stacks on both backfire and striker without dying

[gentle lichen]

This is impossible to attempt in open world

[vital isle]

Any builds / advice for a player mainly looking to do PVE materials? solo/group/raids, esp learning the legendary weekly projects.

[hexed steppe]

look into striker on the pinned spreadsheet, its highest single target damage and solid against harder content

pinned in this channel*

[hollow pasture]

Nobody said Hunters fury with memento as a good solo PVE build
That too

[main heath]

Does Heartbreaker work better with memento or catharsis?

[edgy flare]

Hi guys, I’m a returning player and wondering where to find a dps build to get me back into the new content.

Where do I find the pinned builds?

[hushed gorge]

I ll be back in this game after a month or two
Work stonks
Man life is so boring☠️☠️🗿

I am only SHD lvl 850
One day I'll touch level 1000🙂

[junior surge]

Are you on pc or mobile

[edgy flare]

Mobile

[junior surge]

click on the channel name at the top

Then navigate to the pins tab

[onyx sage]

either is fine, depends on your use case

[tawdry flare]

Make sure to run a ceska pcs with both of them both are fine

[cursive gull]

tempted to do a full armor regen build with this lol

[thick wren]

guys i have a question about chest talent called perfeclty efficient - u have 75% chance not to consume armor kit while using it, also i have survivalist specialization active, it still happens to use my armor kit, what am i doing wrong ? ty for ur answers

[urban latch]

25% of the time it will still use one?

[flint wave]

big luck issue

[tawdry flare]

Bad RNG

[thick wren]

can u axplaint it pls

[flint wave]

Bad rng(25% chance) is opposite to good rng(75% chance)

[abstract raft]

Is killer the best weapon perk for smg dps builds?

[vestal ibex]

Does it use up a med kit every single time?

[fickle light]

Whenever you use an armor kit, you are rolling a dice. If you roll well, the armor kit isnt used. If you roll badly, you still use that armor kit. Survivalist doesnt do anything to add to that chance to use/not use the armor kit.

[thick wren]

not really, but sometimes it dies, the talent says that if u have specialization ( dunno whis 1 tho ) u have 100 % possibilities not to use it

[thick wren]

ok ty so much for ur time and answering 🙂

[thick wren]

ty man 🙂

[flint wave]

[fickle light]

It actually says "Specialization armor kit bonuses are increased by 100%". This doesn't include efficient's own chance to not use armor kits.

[thick wren]

yea, i was thinking it wont decrease number of it, ty :

[runic sphinx]

What is the hardest hitting mortar build possible for pvp?

[slate wedge]

sacrifice, 2 pieces grupo, china light, contractors, force multiplier

[runic sphinx]

like this?

[slate wedge]

yes

[runic sphinx]

alright cool had the same thing but was using vile mask

guess technically a gun with in sync would also increase the dmg if i can proc it

[slate wedge]

yeah, or the capacitor

vile mask is also good for pvp, not as hard hitting but more annpying because you deal more damage over time

but then make sure you have skill damage and status effects on the pieces

[slate wedge]

actually for pvp the strategic allignment + vile mask would be better if i think about it

[runic sphinx]

Ima skip the vile mask half my pieces are kinda mismatched cause I never farmed the pieces so some are Skill DMG + Skill Haste and shit

That's what I had before

[slate wedge]

then keep that, sorry if you already changed something

[runic sphinx]

But if I use test subject and the hana-u bag it would be higher dmg on the explosion

[slate wedge]

cause you won't be able to proc the force multiplier in pvp

didn't read the "pvp" at first

[runic sphinx]

Ill try both out I didn't have to reroll anything just swapped the pieces and I'm only making it to use against people that use it against me

I guess strategic allignment will be easier to proc in pvp since im using a stinger hive

[slate wedge]

i defo wouldn't go for the force multiplier in pvp

[slate wedge]

yeah, also your mortar and explosive seeker will proc

[runic sphinx]

deffo the hive seeker can be dodged hive goes thru fkn walls xD

[long wadi]

THEY DIDNT BELIEVE IN US

GOD DID

[dreamy valve]

I hope we can recalibrate exotic gear too down the line

[magic pilot]

Red core catharsis

[crimson niche]

Any tips for an manhunt build?

[latent bough]

I'm following the spreadsheet for negotiator's build, but i'm playing st elmo, what talent do i put on chest ?

[patent fossil]

Obliterate probably, glass cannon maybe

[dreamy valve]

You can use Obliterator

[dreamy valve]

Bruiser is enough to tackle any manhunt comfortable while watching Netflix on the side

[crimson niche]

Bruiser?

@dreamy valve what is bruiser?
Ah, im on console

[dreamy valve]

https://youtu.be/NTqNSgOkXK4?si=marz7jaXEho0_w8X

[crimson niche]

For dark zone

[dreamy valve]

I don’t play pvp sorry!

[vestal ibex]

For the final mission in the manhunt? Heart breakers and memento would do nicely for it, just use pulse and listen to what they tell you objective wise. For the targets and such idk use whatever imo.

[crimson niche]

I mean pvp

[vestal ibex]

Oh well @magic pilot you got any build advice you could impart on this poor soul?

[tight cradle]

Catharsis mask, matador bag (all red), Ferris chest with unbreakable (all red), contractor gloves (armour rolled and rest red), Cyeska knee pads (rolled armour and rest red) and Picaro’s holster (rolled armour and rest red) then use St. Elmo @crimson niche

[crimson niche]

The samw build who evryone using for group...

[tight cradle]

You asked for build lol it’s a OG DZ build

I run Catharsis, matador, Fenris chest, cyeska gloves, foxes prayer’s and walker holster also

But run a Famas with it cuz st.Elmo is boring in DZ

If you got Oreo give the 4 piece striker with Soko chest with unbreakable and a picaro’s holster a run 🤷🏼‍♂️ 4 blues, ran into it yesterday

[spring moat]

So I just started playing after taking a 4 year break, what gear sets/exotics should I try to farm for? I have a full striker set already. I want to do pretty much all types of content

[gentle lichen]

Top tier no matter how "generic" it may be

[tight cradle]

Coyotes mask, Catharsis mask, memento bag and ninja bike bag to start for exotics then pretty much all gear sets but striker and heartbreaker were my first go to’s when I came back

[spring moat]

dope, thank you!

[tight cradle]

That’s what I mean, it’s the OG from even back before I left 😂 I just came back and it still works like a charm

[tight cradle]

No problem. I used countdown and focused masks and bags and hope RNG drops are in your favour. Also farm St.Elmo too

[tight cradle]

Ayyyy a fellow famas user instead of Elmo lol respect! I’m trying to farm catharsis on my PS account now 😂

[gentle lichen]

Yeah nah ain't using elmo no more

It's collecting dust

[spring moat]

elmo can drop from any auto rifle focused activities right?

[tight cradle]

I run it for PVE and that’s all. I haven’t got Oreo yet which sucks cuz no one runs it

[tight cradle]

Yessir

[tight cradle]

I run countdown as the hunters at the end have higher chances of dropping exotics plus each boss

[vestal ibex]

In the pinned messages of this channel there is a spreadsheet, go to the Hub(builds) tab and on the right side of the build description there is a link to a build guide. If you wanna do legendary missions you'll want EP CC, Strikers, FI healer, and maybe a MMR. If you wanna do DH raid strikers is fine, IH the standard HE red is better. Best and most used exotics in the game Regulus, Ouro, Scorpio, capacitor, elmo, nemesis, coyotes mask, bloody knucles, vile, memento, BTSU gloves, there are probably more that you could use but those are the better ones.

[spring moat]

awesome, thanks!

[steep ore]

how can i change or improve this? im pretty noob so i dont know what to go for xD , enlighten me please

[junior surge]

You can change the chestpiece to ceska. You're not running any shotguns, so you're not really profiting from badger tuff. If you want to keep running unbreakable, the difference between regular and perfect is tiny

[vestal ibex]

This a PVP build?

[junior surge]

I'd recommend obliterate though

[steep ore]

pve. in pvp im most likely getting fucked

[steep ore]

mmmm yeah badger tuff i was using it mostly to think as if i had 2.6M armor instead of the 1.3M i have

but i guess youre right

[runic sphinx]

What's better for burst DPS optimist or strained?

[steep ore]

ill try to farm ceska now and find something good, ty

[tulip charm]

strained if all red

[runic sphinx]

Yeah full red glass cannon in pvp

[onyx sage]

pvp is where optimist is arguably better

because strained requires continuous firing and doesn't give you max benefit unless you do so for a full mag

[gentle lichen]

Also weapon damage gained from anything but red cores is valuable since you run all blues or 5 usually

Brands, picaro, talents,

[onyx sage]

ye

[regal tangle]

im trying to build around a bulwark shield

it used to be a deflector build but im having more fun with the bulwark

here it is currently, im looking for some feedback on making this more effecient

[patent fossil]

Hunters fury, Chainkiller, memento, headshot damage on everything. If possible, Regulus as your main weapon.

[urban latch]

Pure tank builds are pretty useless outside specific roles in the raids

[regal tangle]

Should I be speccing into damage or armour?

[regal tangle]

but its fun!

[patent fossil]

Find a balance that suits you, with memento and technician you have a tier 3 shield, you could use artificer hive to help heal it too, so it should be solid enough without any more blue cores

Oh, a d&h chest with headhunter would be preferable to Chainkiller but it's a bit harder to farm

[clever merlin]

anyone with an lmg build? thinking of making one again for golden bullet

[tulip charm]

Just pick your favorite lmg and just throw it on a dps build

[clever merlin]

guessing the ones with higher base damage

[vivid idol]

what kind of build that you just give billions extra armor to your whole team while being tanky too?

[junior surge]

Vanguard and Glavanize, combined with Scorpio and a shield. Rest of the build is up to you, can be foundry bulwark, tp, high end...

What kind of content are you going for?

[vivid idol]

a support that just give billion extra armor to whole team

[flint wave]

galvanize and anything more defensive(like foundry and high end) then od or true patriot is overkill in 99.9% of content

the red rolls are crit mods which gives the tank more damage then a wet noodle

Also helps that threat in this game is also determined by damage dealing capability

[round zinc]

You’re not killing anything with that 6 blue brotha

Use a different set idk,not OD

[flint wave]

I've landed the killing blow indicated by the full hollow point ammo refill on heroic countdown enemies more often then you think

Trust me I've done every tank build

[round zinc]

Ok but how bout in teamplay or countdown

[flint wave]

Bis for countdown easily

it's the most often place I'll play support let alone tank builds

[dreamy valve]

6 blue enjoyers unite!

[onyx sage]

blue FI with doctor home where

[flint wave]

forgor

[flint wave]

Does doctor home scale with blue cores?

[onyx sage]

yes

[flint wave]

doesn't look like it from talent description

[tawdry flare]

Also it is bugged with fi

[onyx sage]

nothing looks like anything from talent description kek

[surreal depot]

That's why chameleon is so good

[flint wave]

Chameleon does everything in its talent description accurately

[vivid idol]

does it works better with survivalist?

[flint wave]

I cant decide. I like survivalist grenade and the extra pfe but I also like firewall shield and the firewall close range team buff

[tawdry flare]

That is the only good thing in pts chameleon is a bit stronger due to dttoc though

[flint wave]

Dtoc is not gonna be much stronger then chc on Chameleon

But improvement is improvement

[tawdry flare]

Suprise suprise yes it is

[round zinc]

it would

you're choosing between 9.5% chc and 10% ooc i dont see how chc is winning

[flint wave]

9.5 chc opens up room for crit mods to be slotted in without reducing crit

2 crit mods(24% crit damage) actually makes it a much closer battle

[round zinc]

i can run all chd and still have space for chc on my striker build while using foxes and grupo

the idea is to run 40% chc so that the head buff gives you the other 20% chc

[flint wave]

chameleon has 15% crit chance so the crit chance attribute does help alot

[round zinc]

ok but you are essentially running just 1 extra chc attribute on every possible slot in your build from using ooc over chc

[stiff jasper]

Not really "scale",the amount increase just because your armor increase, it still heal %

[onyx sage]

no yeah that's what i mean, it scales with total armor

it doesn't scale with blue cores yes

[flint wave]

is this assuming you have head buff procced?

[round zinc]

correct

[stiff jasper]

Then armor kit also "scale" with total armor

[flint wave]

that buff is the hardest buff to get on chameleon imo

[onyx sage]

i was meaning the person using doctor home will heal based on their total armor

it's not % of the person being healed, but the person holding doctor home

[flint wave]

I was assuming no head buff in which case chc doesn't fall very far behind

[onyx sage]

that's why i said blue FI with doctor home, the person holding doctor home would run 6 blue

[round zinc]

here's cham with ooc @flint wave

oh god what is that cropping

[flint wave]

I ran ceska and got 47% crit chance

[round zinc]

i think this is better

just ignore the massive gray zone there

[flint wave]

That looks like less then 40% crit chance

is that even 30?

[round zinc]

anyway you're about 3% from max chc cap

[slate wedge]

wouldn't WH knees be better?

[round zinc]

losing 3% chc and 12% chd for 10% ooc is a good deal

[flint wave]

oh yeah there's no way you're using chameleon without survivability

maybe 2pc walker and Harris or a fenris in place of grupo will be better since less reds

[stiff jasper]

I don't against 6 blue fi because similar concepts in pvp, but you need to consider your heal resources

[round zinc]

yes way

[flint wave]

death sentence

[round zinc]

tell that to ouroboros

[onyx sage]

yeah no i don't mean pvp specifically, but it is a fun build in pve as well. and i give mainly pve advice in this discord

[flint wave]

Very risky playstyle

[onyx sage]

running 6 blue means you run 0 st so you don't heal as much

[round zinc]

but high risk is high reward,no?

[onyx sage]

with something like chem

[surreal depot]

Chameleon misinfo is going on in this discord

[magic pilot]

Not really

[round zinc]

elaborate

[slate wedge]

lemme calc

what's the chc and chd on the famas

[flint wave]

There's a certain point where the rewards don't get much better

Then just building it safer

especially solo stuff

[magic pilot]

Not on rn I can check

[round zinc]

yea but think of it this way:the buff lasts for 45 seconds,so you need to squeeze out every possible damage to reduce ttk to save time

[slate wedge]

ah okay, just tell me when you can

[magic pilot]

Loading rn

[round zinc]

if its like ouroboros level of stupid then yea go 6 blue striker or something

ouro doesn't have a 45 second timer on its dps tho

[flint wave]

But you need the frequency offered by simple survivability modifications in order to reliably get the buffs in the first place. And since they're both smgs they are strongest at close range which survivability also helps obtain

[round zinc]

i mean there's gunner

[magic pilot]

59/156

[slate wedge]

ok thanks

[round zinc]

in a group setting you should not care bout it cuz someone will cover that for you
in solo play,nothing too much that you cant handle with like 1.6 mil damage per shot(obliterate setup) and 1035 RPM

[flint wave]

Fair but it's not like every scenario is like capitol building hallways

[round zinc]

i dont think you should use full red striker for solo legendary

[flint wave]

True

[round zinc]

especially next season when shield peek fuckin dies

[flint wave]

I think solo anything having survivability is the overall winner

[round zinc]

thats true for solo legendary which is 10% of the content in the game

[surreal depot]

DPS = survivability

[round zinc]

arguably for manhunt finales but not that extreme

[flint wave]

overkill exists

[surreal depot]

Nah

[round zinc]

there's no such thing as overkill

infact more than 10% aok is overkill tbh

[flint wave]

Yes there is and it's in more areas then red dps

[surreal depot]

Nah

[round zinc]

unless you're looking forward to soloing lovebirds or something

[flint wave]

There's a certain point where having more damage doesn't make you kill the enemies more efficiently

especially solo

[surreal depot]

And what is that point

[flint wave]

Diminishing returns too

[flint wave]

As early as 2-3 red cores

[round zinc]

i think you're talking from a solo perspective

[surreal depot]

?

[round zinc]

which is fine

[flint wave]

I am but I run blues in group 4 player too sometimes

[round zinc]

i meant @flint wave

[round zinc]

i mean true some groups just has awful damage

[slate wedge]

calculated it and WH is 0.8% better on bodyand 1.9% better on headshots

[surreal depot]

Which you do not make up with blues

[flint wave]

Having Frequency means you can output more damage

[surreal depot]

?

[flint wave]

Aka not being suppressed from a small amount of elite return fire

that all red shield breaks before you can react in legendary

[regal tangle]

sorry, what talent was on the chainkiller?

[surreal depot]

enemy dies before you get suppressed sorry

[round zinc]

you underestimated how bad random matchmaking can be
example:

that was blue striker with chameleon,2nd highest was a red striker st elmo

[surreal depot]

Still carriable

Without blues

[flint wave]

the thing is you aren't actually losing a significant amount of damage. If you do it right you're killing enemies just as efficiently if not more with the added survivability

[round zinc]

i was running 3 or so pfe mods iirc

cuz these guys keep dying out of the open with all those drones

[surreal depot]

You are

[round zinc]

if you're minmaxing then yea but minmaxing is not necessary 100% of the time

[surreal depot]

1hp is significant when blues and no blues have no difference in survivability

[round zinc]

like i said what i said,red striker cham is better but its not like blue is unusable

[flint wave]

And this is on a named that's standing still.

[round zinc]

there are situations where shit just happens,skill becomes a wall,your group runs HE striker drone+turret in legendary

[flint wave]

imagine real game where enemies move and shoot back and avoiding other threats

If the blues made that small of a difference in the shooting range

then how much difference is it making elsewhere

[surreal depot]

No difference

[round zinc]

you are shooting an immobile target in the range

[flint wave]

Exactly

[surreal depot]

Because nothing shoots you when it's dead

[round zinc]

1 blue isn't going to save you

[flint wave]

I put 3 blues on

[round zinc]

honestly just slap on like 2 pfe mods

[flint wave]

pfe mods do offer much more then blue cores if there's majority elites

[round zinc]

red and purple poses virtually no threat most of the time even on legendary

[flint wave]

I never tried slapping pfe mods outside of recent manhunt and incursion and countdown I just felt like there weren't enough elites

[round zinc]

elite can be negated with pfe without sacrificing too much damage

[flint wave]

Accidently cut out the part where I shot with full red first

smh

[cursive gull]

seems like everyone spams that in the DZ right now

[tawdry flare]

Tha you don't need chameleon buff

[surreal depot]

The hidden talent is always active

[tawdry flare]

You should use it with 5.11 for insane survivability especially the +10% health

[surreal depot]

That's getting nerfed next season. Instead opt for improvised to slot in AOK mods for the whopping 16k armor on kill

[tawdry flare]

More like it is getting buffed more health is more survivability especially since they are capping the health

[surreal depot]

For my 3.6M health it's a nerf 😩

[patent fossil]

Perfect headhunter (which is why the d&h chest with regular headhunter is better, 15% more weapon damage is more use than the perfect version of the talent)

If you don't have a Regulus, run a D50 with Determined instead, it'll save you from having to aim for the head all the time.

[tepid trout]

I need to make another character for regular pve

I don't own a singular regular dps build

[patent fossil]

They do come in handy now and again

[regal tangle]

Im still rocking the liberty. The heals i get for the shield are just too good to pass up for me. I have been using this on heroic invaded missions and facetanking chungas with ease

[round zinc]

Whats the hidden talent

@tawdry flare sorry wrong tag

[tawdry flare]

NW I would have said 5.11 gives extra survivability

[round zinc]

I remember when some dude on youtube did a satire full red 6 piece 5.11 “metah” build and he soloed DUA with it

[tawdry flare]

Ronon_lul

[patent fossil]

That's fair enough, but I'd suggest giving the determined d50 a test run to see how it works, you might find you don't need the extra shield healing when you can quickly one shot all the adds

[latent bough]

Hello, i'm near the first base of the negaotiator build, but my ceska chest is like this, do i change the talent or headshot damages ?

This is the current statswith st elmo

[flint wave]

You'll still have well enough crit even with crit damage everywhere you could assuming elmos is the primary. Weapon handling would've been a better Stat but you should be fine

Reroll the talent but this chest piece is pretty much only exclusive to negotiator or high end

[latent bough]

For now, this is the build, some stats aren't maxed

[tawdry flare]

Change the talent to like obliterate or glass cannon

[latent bough]

Gonna do that, so what damages numbers should i be getting in heroic ?

[latent bough]

I seem to be looking at 450k damages in the chest

[vestal ibex]

Yeah sounds about right. Diff doesn't change damage output tho. You've just gotta mark all your targets and keep up with marking and dumping damage in cycles.

Also I notice your stats say 60 flat which means you are probably over the CHC cap, if it'a a percent or two it's not a big deal but if you are min maxing I'd figure out how much and make sure you aren't loosing too much there.

[latent bough]

It's 1.2%

[vestal ibex]

Noice.

[latent bough]

I wanted to make a build that does damages and not annoying to play with stacks, i had a full red build but it wasn't good against rogue agents en higher content, hope this one helps

[tawdry flare]

Also put some other talent in that m1a

[tawdry flare]

The thing is it will do less than a full red on single target but DMG is shared so you have to Target multiple NPCs to reap the benefit

[latent bough]

The goal is to be able to do legendary, i think it will help

[vestal ibex]

Yeah nego is good for legendary, you've gotta be on top of target priority and keeping marks up is all.

[hexed steppe]

Nego is my goto for dps. Nego bag, grupo chest, coyote. Nego is super easy to maintain. Just spray it all and let shit die fast

[latent bough]

I always died at some random thing like a grenade dog getting behind me, or a technician rushing for no reason

[flint wave]

If you're doing solo legendary full red is going to be the hardest experience

Almost no room for error

[gentle lichen]

Shield peek:

[flint wave]

And the reds barely survive congrats

what will you do when it gets removed this incoming update

[gentle lichen]

Matchmake

[latent bough]

Some room are impossible with shield peek, just the second room of district union arena with lots of medic and 2 big guys is not possible

[flint wave]

[flint wave]

If you're running a full red build yes it's very difficult

[vestal ibex]

Just HH HF them.

[gentle lichen]

I did solo it with shield peek trust my scrub ass it's possible

[latent bough]

There is no full cover in that room, you need to fire through the plastic near the entrance door

[flint wave]

Yeah that's why you need survivability

[vestal ibex]

Up on the left. The go to peeker spot.

[gentle lichen]

Sounds like enough

[latent bough]

Tried it, they spawn really close and got killed buy their hive on their back before i could shoot them down

[gentle lichen]

Take off belt

Will slow them down

[flint wave]

That's a good spot

[vestal ibex]

Try behind these boxes to the left.

[latent bough]

Just what i was talking about

[flint wave]

oh I go all the way up

where that white barricade is

[gentle lichen]

I'm way back

[vestal ibex]

I go with either.

[latent bough]

I tried there, got rushed by 10 guys and died

[flint wave]

10 is alot what are you shooting at the whole time?

[vestal ibex]

The front one exposes you to more as you peek but the wood boxes gives them less line of sight so you typically take even less damage.

[latent bough]

The 2 big ones that spawn at the same time

[vestal ibex]

3 chunga here....

[flint wave]

The closest target should usually be your priority

[vestal ibex]

You should also have a skill down a bit in front of you to take stinger hive hits for you.

[surreal depot]

Skill issues ngl

[vestal ibex]

You even play anymore?

[surreal depot]

Not really

[vestal ibex]

WOW

[surreal depot]

But "shield peek is not possible" is a statement

[vestal ibex]

They just need some practice tho. Couple of hints and a couple hours in the lego missions. Most people think that solo lego is easy but it's not for the average player.

[gentle lichen]

Easiest by far is DUA

challenging ones like tidal or manning are the real leggies

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but a SHD 700-800 is still probably pretty green around the edges ya know.

[gentle lichen]

Matchmaking is your best friend

[surreal depot]

Na

Matchmaking just builds bad habits

[vestal ibex]

Yeah compensating for bad skill builds or tank wanna bes isn't the answer.

[latent bough]

Got further without matchmaking then with matchmaking

[gentle lichen]

Eh then play with players that know what they're doing and hopefully can teach you a thing or two

[surreal depot]

You're basically trying to solo the mission with 4 man scaling instead of solo scaling

[gentle lichen]

Ion know man kinda sounds like it builds strong people

4 man brutal

[surreal depot]

Well

[vestal ibex]

Perfect solo then move on to carry more.

[surreal depot]

This tbh

[round zinc]

If you run red builds you definitely can carry while not being good enough to solo it

[latent bough]

Just died again, got cornered and grenades to death

[round zinc]

Mostly cuz there’s no real “dead weight” in a group

A bad player even at their lowest is still a target

[gentle lichen]

Striker thrives off of more HP on enemies so there's that

[round zinc]

And when they’re shooting at the headless chicken,they wont shoot at you

[round zinc]

Your shield peek might be off

[flint wave]

if ur goal is to solo legendary my best advice would not to commit to a full red build

[latent bough]

I was just after the room with the gatling gun

[round zinc]

Ideally the grenadiers would never use airburst unless they see you or you’re in full cover

[flint wave]

it has no room for error and unless you are an actual expert on the level ur doing it is going to be the hardest experience for you

And it will definitely be when "shield peek" is gone

[round zinc]

Yea i second this too

Run hybrid builds

Also solo legendary is going to be a whole different thing once shield peek explodes

[vestal ibex]

Most people aren't using the unhittable shield peek tho.

Most people don't even know how to do it.

[round zinc]

True but most people who solo legendary do so

[gentle lichen]

Can't shield peek from the left that's 1

[round zinc]

People dont do it cuz not a lot of people actually attempt solo legendary

[gentle lichen]

Make sure your crosshair is next to the wall on your left

Means you aren't exposing yourself

[flint wave]

And I highly doubt those are the ones ""easily"" soloing legendary with all red 200 stack strikers

[round zinc]

Solo people either use HE red or hybrids

You can definitely get away with blue striker,just slap on some pfe

[latent bough]

Couldn't position myself fast enough, Made ennemies spawn and couln't get back so had to get behind cover on the left

[round zinc]

You should try a decoy

[vestal ibex]

Turret is typically better cause it pulls agrro, deals a tiny bit of damage, and has more HP than decoy.

[flint wave]

Yeah run blue cores, pfe mods, memento backpack whatever you think you need to ensure a balance between consistent survival and efficient damage

[latent bough]

I tried strikers and really don't like the gameplay, too annoying

[flint wave]

Just shoot enemies and have the highest dps baseline in the game. Easy to do in legendary

[latent bough]

The annoying part is the stacks

[tawdry flare]

The only problem dua room is the garage

[vestal ibex]

At some point you've gotta just swallow the fact that you need time and practice. Just git good. Most people make cheese skill builds to solo lego and if that's your only goal just go that route. Being good at it will take time tho.

[flint wave]

Its not like skill builds can do anything if you get flanked. I think it could be equally as risky as full red since it makes the experience so much longer

[latent bough]

I don't mind training, but resources for this game are scarce at best

When you look up a build you see 10 different builds and no one is agreeing

[flint wave]

there is a division in the build diversity

[tawdry flare]

Bruh the most used build for solo legendary is perfect focus striker or negotiators we have them in pinned spreadsheet

[vestal ibex]

It really is preference and depending on your personal skill.

[tawdry flare]

If you ask any player soloing legendary it is the build they would recommend

Also you should watch hutchler's dua guide

For legendary solo really nice

[flint wave]

Bottom line the games "meta" isn't that simple

[latent bough]

I Saw builds with memento, other with completely différent weapons or specialists

[vestal ibex]

Don't forget the fastest clears of DUA are with HH HF regulus.

[flint wave]

Still Don't have regulus

[vestal ibex]

I mean your on console so you can't hit heads anyway /s

[flint wave]

Me trying to use oh Carol after being a st elmos "no brain" for the majority of my div2 life

[vestal ibex]

The fireworks do be fun tho.

[timber wave]

hi hi! Just got to the endgame stuff, tryin to go for a turret/drone build. Anyone have any advice?

[flint wave]

I'll hit the head eventually

[tawdry flare]

Bruh they have aimbots as a in game feature

[flint wave]

wrong game

[vestal ibex]

Drone Turret Skill Damage Build

This build guide comes from the spreadsheet that's pinned in this channel. You'd open it and go to the Hub(Builds) tab and then on the right side of the description you can find links to build guides.

There are also TONS of resources and other guides within this spreadsheet.

[latent bough]

Did my first legendary, but was with other players and played drone turret for support, doesn't feel like i deserve it XD

[gentle lichen]

Correct one

[lime marsh]

This is my build that i created.it is headshot rifle build with 3p(chainkiller) wh, punch drunk, cezka with composure,fox pray all gear mod with hsd also all rolled with hsd too
1st weapon is the virginian
2nd weapon is baker dozen

Feel free giving me critiques and advices for my experiment

[flint wave]

The third walker piece is definitely useless

[vestal ibex]

What is the experiment?

[flint wave]

Headhunter with rifles over mmr in this build is also awkward but can work

[vestal ibex]

Work is a loose term here I guess.

[flint wave]

true

Determined 1886 is poor man hotshot + mmr

[urban latch]

Determined is likely bugged, and the non-perfect version is considerably stronger than the perfect version. Also because base damage is the main thing that's important with HH, a D50 will be better than the magnum regardless. So swap the prophet for a D50 with determined

[lime marsh]

Ok I'll take a note it

[tawdry flare]

I just played with 1000ms ping

[dreamy valve]

Oh carol, true Patriot, festive delivery?

[magic pilot]

are you sure?

im pretty sure thats been tested before

@gentle lichen

[slate wedge]

what's the best wicked ridgeways build for pvp?

[gentle lichen]

Can't test since I don't have ceska/fenris/W&H chest

[opal egret]

What is an „easy to farm“ PvP build to get into DZ? I feel like it’s unplayable with 3 stacks running named gear and all god rolls

[green pumice]

4 piece striker and Ouroboros 1.5-1.8m Armor.

[slate wedge]

wanna see the math?

[gentle lichen]

For sure

[runic sphinx]

Whats more damage FI chestpiece or empathic resolve

[urban latch]

FI chest + oppo backpack

[unkempt dune]

What is the meta pvp build? Most popular

[wise swallow]

probably striker

and fire

[strong crater]

yes, many people use that set (striker). including me too 🤭

[random sigil]

recommended easy solo build for low SHD levels to do heroic/legendaries(if possible)? I saw several in the spreadsheet, but nothing to indicate where to start

[onyx sage]

start with strikers

[random sigil]

thankfully i guessed right in making that lol. I made the other standard red build, and I got wrecked. not sure why strikers was easier to use. but I am using memento with it and cezka backpack with obliterate.

[gentle lichen]

This but W&H chest

[flint wave]

blue core matador

[slate wedge]

damn i want your build

[tulip charm]

Just farm it

[slate wedge]

i don't wanna farm that matador

everything else i have

[gentle lichen]

I got it from a 348 shd random trying to extract it

Forever in my memory

[slate wedge]

this is my most meta build

[gentle lichen]

Shiiii if it works

And you pop the peeps

[flint wave]

T xic

I can barely get a dz exclusive

[slate wedge]

this is my favourite build right now

works like a charm

[gentle lichen]

10 seconds of doing how much damage?

[slate wedge]

ALOT

25% amp

[gentle lichen]

Does dz south stairs have cover?

[slate wedge]

at the bottom and top yes

i do like 15% more damage than the normal umbra+ninjabike build

[gentle lichen]

No ad rush on stairs tho

Such a waste

[slate wedge]

i just down the enemies before they down me

this is obviously an ambush build so not that great for holding

[gentle lichen]

Man sometimes 2 to 3 push and i thrive off of ad rush

[slate wedge]

for holding i got my regulus crit build

[slate wedge]

adrush can be insane

[gentle lichen]

It literally makes me medkit so many times it's crazy

[slate wedge]

kit-push is literally the best tactic in pvp

[gentle lichen]

I also perform a rather cheap tactic

Beam them with famas until no armor is left but unbreakable is unprocced

Then just shotgun them

[slate wedge]

shotguns are so much fun

[gentle lichen]

My go to for dz south

[slate wedge]

is grupo actually better than contractors?

can you send me the crit vaklues for the spotter build?

[gentle lichen]

60% 168%

[slate wedge]

you think using catharsis would be better than coyotes

[hushed gorge]

Is this a PvP build?

[gentle lichen]

Yep

[hushed gorge]

Oh nvm
Saw ur msg later

[jaunty garden]

Hey guys! gonna start my Div 2 adventure today.. any tips for starters 😄

[hexed steppe]

Dont get attached to gear.
Keep using the best available until you hit 40.
If you dont have the dlc yet, keep an eye on sales and pick it up. It's a good percentage of the content.

[jaunty garden]

Gotcha... thx yea I got the Ultimate pack.

[abstract raft]

Does someone know which damage type are adaptive and which ones are multiplied? Which damage types are „better“ than others? Is there a sheet or something like that?

[junior surge]

So, each damage type is their own multiplier, but additive with their own damage type. So dta for example is multiplicative, but if you have multiple sources of it, they will be combined into one multiplier.

[patent fossil]

Yup, which means that using several different damage types is better then going all in on one.
Exceptions are chd is additive with hsd, and amplified damage is multiplicative with itself as well as everything else.

[opal egret]

So it’s basically choose headshot or grit and then try to look get several different damage buffs ?

[abstract raft]

What’s about crit dmg compared to weapon Dmg? What is more important or gives me more dmg if I am running a normal crit striker build?

[abstract raft]

So basically e.g. dta is a MUST for a good dps build right? Also the fox knee pad with dmg out of cover should be the way to go as well right?

[hexed steppe]

Only as long as you arent hurting crit chance. Dta and dttooc can also play a part in some skill builds.
Dta for explosive stuff
Dta and dttooc for oxidizer

You wont generally see contractors or fox's on a striker build as an example since it's a crit starved set.
You will basically always see the named pieces on a high end dps build though

[tawdry flare]

Not necessary for striker high chc chd combo is better cause you always have dttoc on weapons dta only affects white bar

[abstract raft]

Okey seems logical thank you. Let’s say I just got my first „good“ striker set now. But I wanna go and min max / build a good PvP build. Except weapons what is the meta rn?

1. the gloves with dta
2. knee with dttooc
   These 2 are very important is that correct? Which pieces is the way to go with them? I want to play ouroboros or the st elmos

[hexed steppe]

It's usually a high end mix, probably picaros as well with crit brands, I'm not generally a pvp player/builder but I'm sure a couple around here can fill in the details.
👍

[gentle lichen]

In smg yes

Ar it's usually 2pc W&H instead of contractor's (using catharsis)

Because you have many pieces taking away chc (picaro and catharsis)

[abstract raft]

What pieces also in SMG build?

[gentle lichen]

There's a difference between coyote smg and catharsis smg

Both are meta

[abstract raft]

Thank you for the advice btw as a returning / new player this is very overwhelming xD I need to look up ingame to fully understand what you are saying

[woeful swift]

@marble root this is my st. elmo's build

45% chc, which isn't amazing, but 150% chd

coyote's mask balances it out though, usually between 55 and 60% chc when that's active, plus an extra 10% chd sometimes

[fleet stump]

hi
what attributes should i choose for bulwark tank build?

[urban latch]

Just swap a mod or roll from CHD to CHC and get yourself at least above 50%

[urban latch]

Really just depends on what your using it for.

[woeful swift]

i'm not even close to max shd though. by the time i max out my chc on the watch i'll be around 50%

[fleet stump]

not for raids

[latent bough]

I see no one talking about heartbreaker anymore, why so ?

[vestal ibex]

It does less than strikers and it requires more conditions to create your stacks.

[fleet stump]

is it giving bonus armor to team?

[urban latch]

And at that point you can just swap the mod back to CHD.

[latent bough]

@fleet stump I wasn't answering your question sorry, just a thought that run through my mind

[latent bough]

Can't you just put the technician laser and call it a day ?

[onyx sage]

basically

• tech laser means -5% chc
• tech laser means not all guns can use it
• it stacks slower than striker
• it has less damage than striker
• you cannot stack on some enemies

[vestal ibex]

Like if you wanna use HB you should and I suggest it to players who have a hard time surviving. It's a fun set and the yellow/blues added to your shield allow you to be crazy aggressive.

[marble root]

honestly i gotta say, unless im blind, im surprised that strikers doesn't have the miss caviat anymore

[latent bough]

I didn't know it didn't work on some ennemies, that sucks

I'm looking at all the builds on the spreadsheet to find something that is 100% what i want to play

[onyx sage]

basically skill proxies (except warhounds which do let you stack on them)

[vestal ibex]

Try them all and if you do try out all the little variations. Solo play is super easy and allows a lot of freedom so have some fun.

[latent bough]

Farming this much builds is gonna take ages

[vestal ibex]

Most builds are easy to make in 1-2 hours you can have an almost perfect build.

[onyx sage]

nooooo my mortar unicorn build

jkjk

[latent bough]

1-2 hours is what i needed to farm 1 grupo backpack with good stats so i can change the talent

[vestal ibex]

Well the gearset items are super easy to grab up and tons of things are shared. Ceska/grupo items for chest/backpack and a minor part for mask and somewhere else are universal parts used in tons of DPS builds.

Once you have the "harder parts" you just make tons of builds.

[flint wave]

he was forced to farm for yellow pgc chest

😭

[tawdry flare]

Also limiting the spec to tech or sacrificing a skill sliy

[vestal ibex]

You don't have a skill haste/damage and a status effect/damage PGC chest?

[latent bough]

Yeah i get what you mean, but i just made my 3rd build which was nego, before that i had a full red and a skill one (not rigger)

[brisk barn]

I am still hunting for it

[flint wave]

I got mine from a vendor. And it only has skill damage

Waste of time

[brisk barn]

I only have skill damage as well, it has armor regen as the second attribute

[latent bough]

The skill build is good, but feels a bit slow

[flint wave]

Cuz it is

[brisk barn]

that's the entire skill thing

[vestal ibex]

Skill builds are dumb. When you compare skill builds to the damage you do with a capacitor you'll do more damage with your gun on the typical turret/drone skill build.

[brisk barn]

Mortar is only good if you know enemy spawns and don't have mortar more than 30m away from launch point 😭

[flint wave]

Just predict enemy path 4 head

[vestal ibex]

The hang time of the mortar is so funny to me.

[onyx sage]

you say that, but that's exactly why they're used

[brisk barn]

I will just pick my enemies off 1 by 1 when they all split

[flint wave]

I hate that most skill builds run gc too

I'm more vulnerable then full red dps build

[brisk barn]

and sometimes you don't even know if it will actually land sometimes it clips a pole

[flint wave]

Sometimes it kills you

[latent bough]

I really like nego, but feel like i'm playing it wrong

[brisk barn]

that's if you're not very smart and press E while opening a chest

[flint wave]

American history museum be like

Any low hanging ceiling be like

[brisk barn]

you're meant to take the talent that ignores the explosion once every 40 seconds obviously

[vestal ibex]

Just keep marks up and it's all good.

[flint wave]

switching from striker to nego is dangerous

[jade plover]

Hey i'm a newbie and i'm looking for a good dmg+survival build for heroic solo play. there's a lot to choose from nowadays. does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

[latent bough]

I just can't be asked to build the stacks on striker, i know i'm missing a lot by doing that

[brisk barn]

just run high end

no stacks no marks just clean damage

[orchid cloud]

heart breaker + perfect intimidate???

[flint wave]

As if that's hard to do

Get off hard mode

[latent bough]

It's just annoying to me, not the difficulty

[buoyant stratus]

What build should I run if I am looking for something similar to the Nomad build for TD1

[vestal ibex]

Diff does play into strikers. If you are doing lower diff everything just dies and you don't gain stacks, doing heroic solo is even hard to get and keep stacks with a good striker build sometimes.

[latent bough]

I play only heroic to be fair, i get kicked in the butt sometimes (stovepipe last mission for example)

[vestal ibex]

Just look down during the fight and see how many stacks you have. If you struggle to get past half sometimes cause the fight is already over you might wanna just do a highend AR build then.

[latent bough]

A build like this is what you mean by high end ?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[wary vortex]

is collector good for all red build?
i know meta is 4 striker + coyote + memento

[onyx sage]

no

[wary vortex]

aight then

[brisk barn]

coyote and memento isn't possible 🫠

[vestal ibex]

Strikers backpack is BIS tho...

Like if you run a striker build you should always wear the backpack, if you are doing hybrid stuffs nothing matters it's prefernece.

[wary vortex]

bruh what is bis

[buoyant stratus]

Bonus Instruction Presentation?

[vestal ibex]

Best in slot.

[wary vortex]

backpack is the only slot that gives striker talent?

[brisk barn]

no it buffs striker bonus damage from 0.65% to 1%

[wary vortex]

oh that one

[brisk barn]

over 100 stacks that's an extra 35% damage

[onyx sage]

it's a 21% equivalent multiplicative increase

very strong

[wary vortex]

yeah

sawyer and coyote then

[onyx sage]

sawyer is trash lol

you only get the bonus when you're stationary for 50 years

[brisk barn]

use PGC

[wary vortex]

let me get this clear , it takes only 10 seconds to charge up to 30%

but lets say i moved for 5 seconds, on the 6th seconds i get into a cover , at that time im still 30%, or 15%?

in other word , can it refresh?

i mean in heroic+ u always stay behind cover tho, if ur not a tank

[onyx sage]

you lose every second

[wary vortex]

thats bad

[onyx sage]

and no it doesn't refresh

and when you're losing, you don't gain

[wary vortex]

ok its bad lol

[onyx sage]

it's complete trash unless you hate explosions

[brisk barn]

if you want damage stacking use DCH

[urban latch]

It charges up, which takes 10 seconds to max. Then it's active at that amount for another 10 seconds.

@wary vortex

[wary vortex]

btw , i dont want any boost or synergy that requires melee hits

u dont rush onto an enemy on heroic

lol

[brisk barn]

but Sweet Dreams is so funny

[wary vortex]

not when u have other 5 goldies aiming at u at same time

[brisk barn]

if the veteran enemy dies and you die its worth

[wary vortex]

KAMIKAZEEEE

[onyx sage]

good thing you don't have to, the other pieces work better anyway

[tawdry flare]

Ahh Banana Tuber

[wary vortex]

thats how the outcast bomb guy think

glad i will make a liberty

so DCH is still usable

[latent bough]

Is there recommendations for the hunter in schaeffer hunt ?

[flint wave]

I don't believe u

[flint wave]

kill them

[latent bough]

Yeah, doesn't work, he heals too fast

[flint wave]

with cc stopping armor kits

[latent bough]

Oh yeah cc

So banshee pulse and foam ?

[flint wave]

Prepare for a long fight if you can't cc the armor kit fast enoigh

He only has 4 like every other full strength hunter

[warm arch]

omaygot

[flint wave]

If you died to the hunter you need to restart mission cuz ull fight rikers instead

[latent bough]

Yup, noticed that

[flint wave]

probably to minimize skill build toilet gamers from complaining the game has no build diversity

[latent bough]

I still have stovepipe and hunter in schaeffer to do, but they are hard

[flint wave]

Dps for the win on all of those

[latent bough]

Stovepipe i struggle for the quadcopters, the missiles hit randomly

[flint wave]

Stovepipe has the tankiest enemy in the game in the form of a boss besides raid bosses

[flint wave]

Super tall cover or roof cover is how you deal with them

There's a good amount of it

[sage matrix]

Would love some tips, haven’t played in well over a year, prob more. I’m rocking a chameleon true patriot set up. It’s fun, but I’m guessing dated. Don’t have any of the newer hot items. This going to do well enough until I catch up? Other go-tos are status build that spreads, focusing on fire and using pestilence. Also fun. Pure dps build is lullaby with smg, also fun.

[flint wave]

True patriot was outdated since forever

chameleon is painfully average

[sage matrix]

Yeep lol

But fireworks!

[flint wave]

Oh carol users:

[wary vortex]

thats sad to hear

[sage matrix]

I don’t play on heroic if I don’t have to, so average is my wheelhouse

Shield, bonus armor, let patriotic lizard to its thing

[flint wave]

then why u asking for build advice

[flint wave]

True patriot doesn't give bonus armor

[sage matrix]

Because it’s dated and I’m genuinely curious

[sage matrix]

No but my backpack does

[vestal ibex]

If you don't play heroic or anything above you can realistically use whatever.

[sage matrix]

Matador I think

So don’t take this to heroic lol

[flint wave]

Damn matador?

[vestal ibex]

Anything works on any difficulty it'll just be a question of how long and how good you are.

[flint wave]

Legendary👴

ur very dead if not minmaxing

[sage matrix]

Yeah, get in their face

I’m old and very average

[hoary atlas]

using Umbra Was bad idea Right ?

[marble root]

men

hypothetically, if i were to use the diamond back

would stacking headshot dmg or crit dmg be best

[urban latch]

Crit

[marble root]

ok

and for sets, typically hotshot would be best right?

[flint wave]

no

[hollow pasture]

Negotiators dilemma is the only set I feel I can somewhat use diamondback

[hazy steeple]

There was a high-end build a while back too, but that one's been lost to time.

[flint wave]

Thoughts?

found in top div 2 loadouts video

[hollow pasture]

Rogue gold video
I also facepalmed

I can get waveform but why are we using rigger

[flint wave]

rigger bag with turret drone is insane

idk where else u would run rigger bag tho

[hollow pasture]

Isn't rigger bad
Never see anyone recommending it