td2-build-advice

[tame flax]

or shd 4000 where all they do just spamming level 100 summit awhile back

[rich lotus]

Crying rn

[tame flax]

why?

just enjoy the game, keep your own pace

[hazy steeple]

Luckily, you only get excess mats after SHD 1k, so having SHD 4000 is fairly redundant.

[rich lotus]

Isn't 114 shd like, months of playing?

[onyx sage]

nauur

[tame flax]

depends how many hours u put per day

[onyx sage]

you get into the groove far earlier than that and the grind isn't that much

[rich lotus]

Weeks then?

[hazy steeple]

Div2 is about to turn 5 years old, 4 years of those is the SHD level existing.
Game is meant to be played slow.

[bronze hound]

yes

[bronze hound]

you can get 114 in a week if you wanted to

[rich lotus]

Holy shit

[onyx sage]

for context, apparel events have around 30 caches to open which means 120 levels to grind. they only let you grind for 2 weeks. and it's definitely possible to grind 120 within 2 weeks to get all keys to open the caches

[rich lotus]

Damn...

[hazy steeple]

And to add on to what binoculars said, I did the entire last Apparel Event solo, by just running activities+CP's on the LZ map.

[onyx sage]

it depends on your experience and your build

[rich lotus]

I just hit shd 1 lol

[bronze hound]

like just a few minutes ago or

[rich lotus]

Yesterday, haven't played since

[bronze hound]

ah

[rich lotus]

Yep

[bronze hound]

meh if you wanna get there you can

nothin stoppin u

[rich lotus]

Gonna play it lots when I go back home, 300 ping in dorm sucks

[round zinc]

Been there before lol

I would shoot like 4 mags on the robo dog,nothing happens and BAM i died

[supple stump]

aw there is a lot builds 😄 kinda dont know which choose to dont get complicated one

[round zinc]

Even on full red builds,with the shield its like 5 shots til you’re down

[bronze hound]

striker

[supple stump]

one with elmo ?

[bronze hound]

you can always swap elmo for something else but yes

[round zinc]

Elmo just really saves you a lot of time farming gear and stuff

[supple stump]

im actualy got similar build but on heartbreaker but thing is im cant stack up the heartbreaker 😄

[bronze hound]

striker is better for damage than heartbreaker

[round zinc]

You need the technician pulse,or hit a headshot every 5 second

[supple stump]

then prob im pick it im kinda prefer gameplay like shot and hide with no rush

@round zinc for me is not that easy 😄

this is why im prob pick striker

[tame flax]

striker is not hiding

[supple stump]

kinda question why all ppl counter to elmo lf ouroboros and it only drop in this incursion mission ?

[onyx sage]

didn't get your question

[tame flax]

different playstyle different gears/weapon

[onyx sage]

ouro drops in the incursion only

[supple stump]

ok understand

[onyx sage]

and within range it's better than elmo

[supple stump]

if someone drop it there then you can target farm it in other place ?

[onyx sage]

no

[bronze hound]

no

[onyx sage]

incursion only

[supple stump]

then prob any for me it be hard to find ppl for this crazy mission

[onyx sage]

#lfg-td2incursion-pc

get a striker build and listen to instructions

[supple stump]

also im forgot to ask where im can drop striker if this set dont be on map ?

[onyx sage]

you can play either countdown or summit

[bronze hound]

you can set targeted loot in countdown and summit

[hexed steppe]

use the ep bag for better fire damage and go with an eletrique he piece somewheere else

the creeping is better for foam cc versions or EP tho.

[sullen sun]

Decent build?

[urban latch]

Yeah

[sullen sun]

Wouldn’t you want to put spotter on the chest?

[urban latch]

You could, but unbreakable is very good in pvp. Ultimately down to preference

Main change id personally make it swapping to M4 with flatline, King breakers accuracy is just trash for pvp

But again, preference

[sullen sun]

Wb putting comp on bag?

[urban latch]

Limits your skill choices or means you are always playing close to teammates. I know I keep saying it, but ultimately down to preference. Personally I'm big on vigilance, but basically all pvp I do is conflict, which is different than builds focused on say 1vXing in the dz for example.

[sullen sun]

Very insightful

Will 90% pulse res still keep you off the map?

[flint wave]

no

[tribal depot]

Are armor regen builds still something fun to run for general pve solo content?

[onyx sage]

they don't do much? they don't regen much and they don't deal any damage, unless you get most of your regen from just memento

for solo content a good build with a memento will make the game easy, but you need to get stacks

[tribal depot]

Ahh OK, unfortunately I don't have a memento

So it's better to just go for something that has a purpose other than living indefinitely with little damage

[onyx sage]

pve meta is damage, yes

[tribal depot]

Cool ty!

[wooden finch]

regen isnt enough to live indefinitely anyway. youll get bursted down with no way to retaliate

[gentle lichen]

I would personally go 1 less core since this build is all about sneaking up on someone and getting the first shot

But 4 still decent

[tawdry flare]

@onyx sage @vestal ibex @astral kraken @blissful rampart

[onyx sage]

get those gloves fixed asap

[tawdry flare]

roger

[flint wave]

[astral kraken]

now that’s commitment

[tawdry flare]

@onyx sage

10th roll

[onyx sage]

now solo DUA

[tawdry flare]

let me build dps one

[tawdry flare]

you up for the run

[gentle lichen]

Gc + vigi

[astral kraken]

I’m working on a red 5.11

[tawdry flare]

no binoculars + vigilance

[tawdry flare]

you can craft gloves holster and bag

[astral kraken]

Need the mats for improvised build. I have multiple ongoing projects 😂

[tawdry flare]

Kk

[onyx sage]

is that from a directive?

[tawdry flare]

I farmed this build in 5 hrs

[gentle lichen]

Casual

I get 5.11 every drop

[tawdry flare]

But the rolls matter

[onyx sage]

#sponsored

[gentle lichen]

Rolls matter more than brand? Disrespectful

[tawdry flare]

I am talking about rolls on 5.11 pcs 5.11 >> 5.11 with correct rolls >> Every Brand set and gear set

[gentle lichen]

Rainbow 5.11 strongest of all

2 blue 2 yellow 2 red. 4 of each as attribute

Must include deathgrips

[hexed steppe]

Try hunters fury , umbra, or heartbreaker.
All kinda damage/armor focused but in different ways

[flint wave]

trueism

[gentle lichen]

Shocks for 2 minutes and a half

[onyx sage]

where the bubble

[astral kraken]

LiKe CoMmEnT aNd SuBsCrIbE

[gentle lichen]

For more creative non-meta ninjabike builds!!1!11

[tawdry flare]

You used 2pcs hf

[flint wave]

For more survivability cuz of armor on kill

[tawdry flare]

should ve use 1pcs 5.11

[torn ore]

Would striker be more viable in dz if I was wearing all blue?

[west kiln]

only had to burn 6 exo mats & 1 optimise from 9->10 dtooc 😎

[slate wedge]

i feel like vigilance in pvp only really works when you surprise enemies

also since defender drone is strong in pvp companion works pretty well for me#

[flint wave]

it's not like people are constantly shooting into ur spot

but it's a pulse resistance build so surprise is going to happen

[slate wedge]

but once they shoot you you have 20% less damage

[flint wave]

for 4 seconds

[torn ore]

The fuck am I looking at

[flint wave]

the new ouro meta

[torn ore]

More like the new laughing stock meta

[onyx sage]

social area build

[rich lotus]

is bulwark shield worth using at all

crusader*

[torn ore]

Dz is so freaking stupid

[rich lotus]

so fun with a shotgun i hope it is usable a lot

[wise swallow]

whats the meta ATM?

last i played it was 1.5 unbreak with foxes and contract

or big horn

i can imagine st elmo is atrocious in the DZ

[urban latch]

Yeah that's why I specified conflict, but it also depends on how your playing as well. It's obviously doing nothing in face trading or if your farming checkpoints and being jumped, but in group play, or jumping someone else it's very strong because of how much natural lag division has

[slate wedge]

yeah thats fair, i just loved the feel of companion but maybe i just didn't realized how good vigilance was working

[slate wedge]

it is

[wise swallow]

what are the meta builds rn

i assume big horn and eb are still fairly strong

[slate wedge]

yeah, famas also really strong as always

for smgs ouroboros is the king

[wise swallow]

I always hated SMG's in division 1 and 2

[slate wedge]

meta rn is probably still 1.5 with unbreakable and adrush

[wise swallow]

oh so the norm lol

[slate wedge]

or pistol builds

[wise swallow]

hasnt changed in a whole ass year

[slate wedge]

nah, striker also pretty good with ouroboros

[wise swallow]

striker any good?

that answers that

[slate wedge]

hehe

[wise swallow]

saw a video from crypto recently using EB and striker

id imagine striker crit builds are strong in a group

[slate wedge]

yeah

also umbra pretty good for big burst

[wise swallow]

alone i dont see it being that great tbh

i think i remember umbra

[slate wedge]

but forces you into a certain playstyle

heartbreaker is the 1v1 king right now if you know how to use it

[wise swallow]

i have a whole heartbeaker build saved on my PVP character so i assume i liked it

might get back into div 2

but still seems kinda stale

[stiff jasper]

10% only if tier0
also,if your drone down, your companion down

[slate wedge]

what do you mean?

[stiff jasper]

defen drone are not strong, people use defen drone because shield are not usable

[wise swallow]

I assume most people are using 4pc with backpack + the dmg amp chest talent i forgor the name of it

• big horn

[stiff jasper]

anything you dont understand

?

[slate wedge]

i was talking about vigilance

once you get shot you have 20% less damage

[stiff jasper]

10%

[slate wedge]

the message was not related to the defender drone bro

it was related to vigilance

[flint wave]

vigilance is 25%

[slate wedge]

i know

[stiff jasper]

oh then i still don't understand why 20 but not 25

[flint wave]

misinterpret city

[onyx sage]

it's that 1/1.25 = 0.8 which is 20% decrease

[flint wave]

🛌

[onyx sage]

i gotchu

[slate wedge]

but considering with active vigilance you have 100% then you lose a fifth which is 20%

[onyx sage]

maffs

[flint wave]

number is number👎

[slate wedge]

binoculars obviously faster again

[stiff jasper]

ah then 0.2 is right

[patent fossil]

20% relative to buffed damage, 25% relative to unbuffed damage

[slate wedge]

nobody saw that

[wise swallow]

@slate wedge what are good weapon talents for PVP on famas

ik insync is shit now

[slate wedge]

optimist, sadist on a bleed build, flatline with the LLP

[magic pilot]

Flatline on police m4

[wise swallow]

👍 is hearrtbreaker PVP build in spreedsheet?

[magic pilot]

I wouldn't use it in pvp tbh

Way too easy to counter

[wise swallow]

I wanna play around with it

i have the meta builds, those are boring id rather fuck around with interesting stuff

[magic pilot]

HB chest and bp with coyotes and ceska piece for ar

[slate wedge]

it is fun if enemy doesnt use pulse res

[magic pilot]

Can swap HB bp for ceska/ ad rush

[slate wedge]

i use it with picaros and catharsis for a full blue build

[wise swallow]

alright

[slate wedge]

is a crit nemesis build good for pvp?

[wise swallow]

from my short time playing

nothing has changed. haz pro headshot is still the only way to play this game lol

any team with a competent fire build just wins

[sly pollen]

@mellow flint @hexed steppe

[hexed steppe]

ok save the striker chest for stuff like incursion.. but for regular stuff farm out a ceska obliterate chest and striker glove.

you may need a crit roll or mod for now but after your watch is maxed youll be able to hit 52% chc with elmo and just the highend/coyote chc rolls, then all else will be chd rolls. actually allows for around 9% higher chd compared to running a grupo chest.
also with obliterate that will start stacking damage the same time your 100 striker stacks start stacking so youll hit higher output much faster

[sly pollen]

It got very complicated. Can you simplify it more?

[dense seal]

No HB Backpack. The rest is correct,
We use Ceska as BP, and Coyotes Mask,

99.9% of the the HB back pack is Functionally useless.

[sly pollen]

For example, don't use this, use ''this'' instead.

[dense seal]

Striker Chest is bad outside of Legendary and Incursion, DO NOT USE!

[hexed steppe]

for now get the ceska chest with chc chd and striker glove with whatever you need to maintain around the same 50ish% chc

[slate wedge]

no backpack for pvp?

[dense seal]

If this is directly PvP, then I actually have no clue.
Otherise, what I said stands.

[shadow gorge]

what is the build for make 70 milions with regulus?

[sly pollen]

I didn't misunderstand, did I? You tell me to use ceska for chest and make the glove a striker

[wise swallow]

I was asking for PVP

[hexed steppe]

exactly

[merry drift]

how to get this one?

[sly pollen]

Will one of these work for me?

[hexed steppe]

countdown > farm ceska (hand/hammer icon)

[hexed steppe]

use what you have until you get the ceska chest with obliterate

worth farming asap

[dense seal]

Not just for this either. Ceska and Grupo with Obliterate are top tier items.

[merry drift]

i mean is ceska is the name of the chest

[sly pollen]

When I wake up tomorrow, the first thing I will do is go to countdown and drop Ceska Chest, along with obliterate of course.

thx for help

[hexed steppe]

yw, i got you bro 💯

[merry drift]

im new so no clue what u guys talk about

✅

[dense seal]

What would you like to know?

[hexed steppe]

just brand name. the brand give critical hit chance which is strong in dps builds

[sly pollen]

My advice to you is to put a notebook in front of you and write everything down. It seems incredibly complicated at first, but then you memorize it and make things easier.

All that matters to you is crit, shd level, expert level

From now on it's all up to your imagination

[dense seal]

Or . . . .type in Youtube - iKia Division 2

[merry drift]

this for my start

[sly pollen]

My advice to you is not to spend too much time on YouTube. Everyone has their own opinion on something and it gets confusing after a while.

[shadow gorge]

in youtube not find a 70 milion regulus unfortunately

[hexed steppe]

or youtube search > DodRegnbue 😎

[dense seal]

Contractors are good, but not on this style of build.
You also do not need strikers chest.
Same advise to you, Ceska Chest with Obliterate,

[merry drift]

how to get this chest

i mean where in map?

[sly pollen]

countdown

[hexed steppe]

look for this icon

[dense seal]

Open world or Countodown.

[dense seal]

shhhhhh

[sly pollen]

If you're looking for an item paradise, it's Countdown bro.

[merry drift]

any Countodown?

[hexed steppe]

yeah you can select target loot there. start with challenging

[sly pollen]

open the map and on the top right under summit

Press the h key and select the item group you want.

[merry drift]

thx

[dense seal]

Before people go on about the title, this buid can do Legendary, it just takes a lot more Optimisation and Recalibration that I did in the 30 minutes I did this in.

[hexed steppe]

they wont like since self.. its not mine tho so we should be good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLcW6eouVuY

[dense seal]

Thanks. And to you, Rivens. For being kind.

[blissful rampart]

Just saw the ping, yea don't allow self promo sadly. One of those things that a few people ruined for everyone (while back)

[hexed steppe]

it would be kindof cool to have a promotion friendly channel, with specific guidelines... like #td2-clan-recruitment has

[astral kraken]

I really don't understand this build, esp for new players.

The premise is 4pc striker and insert any other two things but the two things being inserted aren't helping with damage which is where new players struggle with the most.

In the example player almost dies on the second stage of a challenging mission. Now imagine that scaled up to 2-3-4 player scaling.

[hexed steppe]

author in chat if you want to get specific feedback

[astral kraken]

For context I'm helping a buddy through his first paces at level 40 so I'm sorta seeing what problems they're running into.

Throwing them into a CQB build is just a bad idea.

[hexed steppe]

was more a helpful repost

[astral kraken]

Belstone armor regen is pointless b/c armor will come back after each stage anyway. And the regen isn't going to prevent a death during positional mistakes.

Might as well just farm for memento?

[hexed steppe]

personally if i wanted more survivability i would just memento

[astral kraken]

there you have it 😄

I could see an argument for newer players not being able to get it yet. My buddy hasn't gotten a memento or elmo drop yet.

But I just had him throw on 4pc striker, ceska/oblit, etc, etc and he's doing fine.

[hexed steppe]

chances go up the more CD you can spam. i hit it hard for 1-2 weeks a couple months back on challenging and it didnt take long to get enough credits for 100 exo caches

[astral kraken]

He got lucky with a ceska vig backpack and his chest is oblit blue gila actually (till he gets a better one). He was quick to get coyote mask so he's running that too.

But having him all red with an AR and fighting at mid range cuts through content. We've been doing legendary and I only get 3x more kills which is really good all things considered.

If I put him in the above linked build he'd struggle through heroic for sure.

[shadow gorge]

and about regulus?

[hazy steeple]

Regulus isn't really recommended for newbies, since the only way you can get it is to run through Iron Horse a few times.
The mechanics can be incredibly daunting for new players.

[astral kraken]

BROKEN CUP ON A HOOK

[shadow gorge]

i mean for me i have 2002 shd 🙂

[onyx sage]

2 cups on a belt

[shadow gorge]

i search a build for high damage with 70 milions

[hexed steppe]

shd means resources, not experience tbf

[round zinc]

Alternatively you can use a d50 for roughly the same result.
Roughly

[shadow gorge]

well yes i have 16 expertise and 4 character and so multipled build

[hazy steeple]

That's a very generous definition of "roughly", but yeah d50 is a nice build.

[astral kraken]

the easiest way would be stacking headshot damage and using dodge city with overcharged achilles pulse

[shadow gorge]

yes i wantuse dodge city but other items i not know well except for 20% more damage on pistol

[hexed steppe]

not a dig. but ive seen plenty of builds on shd 8k-10k that are head scratchers

but you come to the best place for advice for sure

[shadow gorge]

well yes im not a champions for that i ask for a regulus build 🙂

i reach only on 20 milions tipically with that

[hazy steeple]

SHD level above 1k these days really is just an indicator of how bored you are.

this tea is delicious.

[shadow gorge]

🙂

rivens i like more your photo avatar 🙂

i mean with face 😄 you are cute 🙂

[onyx sage]

🤨

[shadow gorge]

:p

is only a compliment 😄

[hazy steeple]

I appreciate the compliment I guess.
anyway, builds.

[shadow gorge]

but is ture the regulus can reach 70 milions?

im interested on that 🙂

[astral kraken]

My first big one shot was 118 million on the legendary DUA boss solo. I was running Punch Drunk mask, The Gift backpack, Chainkiller chest (did not help with one shot), DCH, fox's, contractor's. Everything rolled HSD.

I used achilles pulse and got lucky with the mark being on the head. When the mark is on the head then the damage is doubled IIRC.

[shadow gorge]

we have a photo with that? because i have the game in another language is confusing for me

o also a link to a youtube build

[patent fossil]

you won't be hitting 70m on every shot, but with dodge city and achilles you can now and then

[shadow gorge]

yes yes with cooldown is enough for me 🙂

[patent fossil]

of course, you don't need to hit 70m on every shot when most enemies have less than 25m health

[shadow gorge]

is funny to wait and headshot it specially the boss

also yes 🙂 other is less than 25

[astral kraken]

here is a video. actually forgot i was blb stacking too.

but i dont think i had full blb stacks

[round zinc]

Also aim for warhound legs if you ever run into them

[hazy steeple]

Just a heads up, youtube builds for div2 are seen in a similar light as victims of the bubonic plague.

[round zinc]

They take direct damage

[shadow gorge]

i cannot see the video stuttering can screenshot it if you can or directly link 🙂

in any cases thx for the time 😉

about invectory for example if is possible

[hexed steppe]

hot garbage incoming

i wonder if i should make this type of sacrifice to get my amp back and double dip memento efficiency. im sure ill get raked for this 😂

[fleet ruin]

Me locking for a good PvP build

[onyx sage]

🤓 ummm achkyually, it's not "direct damage", it only takes 10% of your usual non-crit damage but around 60-70% of your usual crit damage so you don't really shoot it unless you have substantial crit investment

okay sorry now i leave

[astral kraken]

This is what I was wearing. Again, chest does not help - it was for clearing ads.

On the range I'm getting 66M with achilles headshot + DCH.

With BLB trick I'm getting 199M

[hexed steppe]

does blb >reg still work?

[astral kraken]

So I think in my video the BLB bar is bugged and I was 3/4 stacks

[astral kraken]

yea

[hexed steppe]

ok so just not in incursion because of damage caps

[astral kraken]

It's not needed for solo DUA boss though because he has only like 30-40M HP

[shadow gorge]

thx i i save with screenshot it 🙂

[astral kraken]

So for him you can just do what I did and run chainkiller for ads and hit him with achilles+regulus. I've done it lots of times since then without BLB stacking at all.

[shadow gorge]

all need a critical and headshot attributes right?

[astral kraken]

all you need is hsd

[shadow gorge]

anyways thx 🙂

yes head shot damage

i that mean 🙂

[astral kraken]

crit damage is not worth it b/c your crit chance will be so low

better to put secondary attribute to handling for easier aim

[shadow gorge]

ah ok thx i that asking 😄

i finish first to upgrade certain weapons and in future make this or i tryng 🙂

[merry drift]

can i know why fps decrease to 11 when i press win+tap

11 fps out side the game

when i back fps back normal

[onyx sage]

the game has a fps cap when it's not in focus

to not consume resources when you're not interacting with it

[merry drift]

can i turn it of ?

[onyx sage]

not really, but it's not unusual for a game to do this

[urban latch]

Didn't the rule specifically used to have an exception written into it for things relevant to the ongoing conversation?

[merry drift]

somehow something broke

maybe d12 made these problem

my windows is giga lagging

[onyx sage]

the fps cap doesn't have anything to do with it

[merry drift]

nah

i have high ebd pc realy strong

but huge problem happen to me when i play this game

[onyx sage]

you're missing the point

the fps cap isn't the problem

if you get low fps inside the game, something else is the problem

not the fps cap

[merry drift]

my fps in game 220 playing 2k

[onyx sage]

if you alt tab out and get 10 fps, that's expected

[merry drift]

with all settings ultra

[onyx sage]

you just don't need that when you tab out

so the game reduces it to 10

[blissful rampart]

Yes and no, but also yes. And kinda no 😂

[onyx sage]

that is annoying tbh. sometimes it's best to show one of my clips to illustrate a strategy and i have to describe it with very long text

[urban latch]

Starter pvp guide

[magic pilot]

I was mentioning specifically for pvp

[urban latch]

Imo since HB got balanced it hasn't been worth running in pvp. Only exception being in the dz and pre-stacking on ads.

[slate wedge]

it is kinda fun in conflict but only when you can use rock n roll on an isolated enemy

[rich lotus]

I use Close The Same build But I use füll red. Is there a better build ?

[round zinc]

Brother your st elmo has expertise level 23

[stiff jasper]

I remember you mention you play conflict, do you trust your team? Use HB to lead enemy player use pulse resistance, since enemy lost some damage, your team get some advantage on trading

[unkempt dune]

Can you recalibrate third attribute on exotic ouroroboro

[hazy steeple]

No, but on Ouro (and every Exotic after and including Sacrum Imperium) you can "reroll" the gun to randomise the 3rd attribute.

[onyx sage]

@hexed steppe first time trying out the shock trap aok strat you mentioned a long time ago and beat tidal boss duo with gogamer, we cleared after 3 attempts which is a lot easier than i thought lol

going to try solo next

[flint wave]

who's @gogamer

[onyx sage]

@tawdry flare this guy

[onyx sage]

3 13% pfe mods to flex

[tawdry flare]

i use catharsis flex with 2 pfe 13% and total 5 pfe mods

i was at 50% pfe

so 4 pfe let me check i forgot lol

[onyx sage]

consider this: damage

[tawdry flare]

my damage is way higher thn you for some reason

[onyx sage]

no i went above 0

[tawdry flare]

me too

[onyx sage]

i overflowed then went up positive again

[tawdry flare]

i think i went negative

after that

[onyx sage]

it was a fun run tho

[tawdry flare]

positvie negative positive negative

[onyx sage]

but you sir, you need to relearn strats smh

[tawdry flare]

yeah

[tawdry flare]

i haven't played for 20 days lol

[onyx sage]

okay understandable

[tawdry flare]

we can get 30-35 mins easily

[onyx sage]

and the build above, 200 stacks was pretty easy to maintain without acs. acs was just used at the beginning on the first turret box

[tawdry flare]

i used scorpio all the way with famas fast hands

but yeah last room striker chest is best thing

[onyx sage]

ye

[tawdry flare]

npcs are a sponge lol

[tawdry flare]

i had like npcs running few meters than getting confused from scorpio

it took me 6 shots of scorpio to see confuse lol

150ms ping is crazy

[onyx sage]

good night sir

[tawdry flare]

good night to you sir

[surreal depot]

@onyx sage who is nerfking tbh

[onyx sage]

friend

[flint wave]

not gogamer

[surreal depot]

name seems awfully familiar

[tawdry flare]

Yeah awfully familiar wonder who is he

[hexed steppe]

Very nice

[vivid idol]

what specialization good for striker build?

[shy willow]

Gunner is a nice fit

[forest forum]

Gunner indeed is

[untold hearth]

One Shot Sniper Build that doesn't involve nemesis 🙏🏻 anyone?

[flint wave]

the chest is chainkiller and use vigilance if in groups. Headshot dmg and/or weapon handling on every piece

nemesis is trash anyways

[untold hearth]

What if solo?

[flint wave]

that ss is the solo one

[untold hearth]

Ah 🤣

[untold hearth]

Remind me bloodsucker again? 🧐

Oh and is a Blue Core or 2 still make it slap, just curious??

[hexed steppe]

Have you tried is with memento solo? It works pretty good.
5r equivelant when charged and regen/bonus armor

[flint wave]

no need to run out and get ur trophies with bloodsucker

[vestal ibex]

No need for anything in solo heroic with a HH build tho.

[untold hearth]

But vigilance better?

[vestal ibex]

You could put a fully defensive backpack/talent on and it wouldn't make a difference in your killing power.

[onyx sage]

unless you're grouped

[untold hearth]

Mostly solo really

Just in my situation

[vestal ibex]

With how head hunters works you have tons of freedom. If you've got a mostly damage focused build for sniping you can trade the backpack off for full defense and it would make any difference in solo heroic.

[hexed steppe]

What's the top end damage with bloodsucker?

[flint wave]

enough to one shot everything on solo legendary except yellow minitanks and named

think It was 19-20 mil

[cyan drift]

love the sleigher just to one-shot that one red guy as a joke

[hexed steppe]

Probably be hitting 23-24ish with long buff (25-26 with both active). Long is a trophy pickup every 5 mins once charged, but if legendary its definitly not as easy to get trophy charge established.

[untold hearth]

Would a three-piece Hot shot still work lol

[vestal ibex]

You can use 2-3 pcs of hots.

[untold hearth]

Noted

[vestal ibex]

The build needs weapon damage and MMR damage and depending on your content and group size that can be scaled back and work exactly the same.

[untold hearth]

Mostly solo in my case

[vestal ibex]

Yeah you could be lazy and slap a chain killer on 4 pcs of hots and a random thing and it'll work.

With a determined white death it's just a broken no effort build. The only thing you'll have to learn is when to drop stacks and how to deal with helms and dogs.

[hexed steppe]

Elmo is a solid secondary for shtf. Stable enough where you focus heads and benefit from the hsd rolls

[vestal ibex]

I personally run WH on my MMR build. Everyone should try it, best damage QOL ever.

[tawdry flare]

i run 5.11 for the immense strength it provides

[gentle lichen]

Does EB when tanking too much damage immediately kills you or gives you OSP?

[shy willow]

The health bonus is truly one of the bonuses of all time

[rich lotus]

And the extra bonus of when an enemy kills you, they won't want to bother looting you

[tawdry flare]

no no no they can't kill me cause of the health it gives

[rich lotus]

10% right? Wars have been won and lost on smaller margins than that

[tawdry flare]

Also the amplified healing

[sterile scarab]

hi all does double companion still. Work?

[hexed steppe]

Works as intended.

It doesn't stack bugged double/triple procs like it did when broke

[sterile scarab]

So if I use bag and chest I'll get dmg from both?

[hexed steppe]

Yes listed damage for each as long as condition met

[sterile scarab]

@hexed steppe thanks

[tawdry flare]

@onyx sage

[slate nest]

should i change the sokolov?

[gentle lichen]

Ceska

Or contractor's

[hexed steppe]

Yeah use grupo. If you have chc rolls then ceska and make them chd rolls

[gentle lichen]

Is it for incursion?

Oh don't mind me didn't see memento

Yeah ceska or grupo accordingly

[flint wave]

put some blues if using memento

[gentle lichen]

Tbh if you can make the ceska or grupo be a chest with obliterate it would be better

[flint wave]

That bonus armor helps

[hexed steppe]

You were right 1st shot. Ceska. 3 rolls dedicated to chc atm.
With ceska max watch and oreo it will hit 51% secondary roll will have them at 57%chc and all else chd 👍

[quartz ledge]

I got the chameleon and managed to re-roll it for near maxed stats, is there a way I can actually get all 3 max stats or do I just need to grind exotic components for re-rolls

[shy willow]

Optimization

Third stat should always be damage to targets out of cover though

But don't dump everything into the chameleon

[gentle lichen]

Post sacrum only

Chameleon old asf

[shy willow]

Oh shit oops

[shy willow]

This^

But Elmo's/ouro are much better anyway so

[gentle lichen]

You also can't roll dttooc on iron lung since it's an lmg and has dttooc natively

[gentle lichen]

Pretty much

[quartz ledge]

I've got crit chance

[gentle lichen]

It's permanently like that

You can't change it so don't waste components

[shy willow]

Instead of wasting them on chameleon rerolls save them for expertise or something

[quartz ledge]

Dang, it's not that big a deal since I am using a crit based strikers build

[shy willow]

I'd recommend a high end c7/police m4/FAMAS or Elmo's/ouro instead of cham

[quartz ledge]

By the time I get a decent roll of Elmo's to drop I might as well get by with cham anyways

And can't get ouro since I don't have live gold or whatever they call it now

[shy willow]

Ahhh I see

If you're solo then chameleon will be good enough then yeah

[quartz ledge]

Yeah as solo as solo can be, the only time I ever see other players is in safe zones xd

[shy willow]

I know the feeling haha

[quartz ledge]

Currently abusing the hell out of coyote for that damned mask
One thing I hate about this mission is the servers in the ISAC node are covered by plastic and those things get hot

The fact the center is still standing is a miracle

[shy willow]

You could also run summit to get it while target masks

[quartz ledge]

I could but that would just be a pain

Plus this is a lot faster since I can mostly handle challenging now

[slate nest]

this is for farming materials and countdown

[slate nest]

[slate nest]

[lean viper]

guys i came back after years to div 2 and hadnt played it a lot , now im at 280 gear score and whatever i do i feel like i never get better gear or weapons .... any advice for a scrub ? thanks

[fallen comet]

Focus on invaded missions and strongholds to advance world tiers

Highers tiers give better loot

[lean viper]

thanks bud ! appreciate it

[gentle lichen]

Be mindful that gearscore is outdated so you won't find as many players as in shd

[lean viper]

what you mean by that ?

[shy willow]

After world tier 5 you go to new york and level up from 30-40

All gear is standardized to level 40 thereafter and world tiers are replaced by global difficulty

[lean viper]

and whats the best way of "leveling up" after that

or are you kind of capped

[urban latch]

If your not gear score 450-500 yet then it sounds like you've still got story missions left to complete

[shy willow]

After 40 the levelling is infinite

Incremental stat bonuses up to 1000 after that is just health bonuses and points to redeem materials and credits

[lean viper]

bro ive done all the campaign and still have terrible score i just dont know wtf im doingi guess

[shy willow]

What world tier are you

[lean viper]

i think 5 ?

ahh na

world tier my bad no idea

[urban latch]

Have you finished tidal basin?

[lean viper]

yes

[shy willow]

How do you have less than gs450 then😭

[urban latch]

Every drop your getting should be 450 and higher

[lean viper]

no ideo bro 😦

[tulip charm]

Dropping a picture would help but idk if you still want to stay in dc

[rich lotus]

Quick question about Rauceys' Hunters Fury build in the spreadsheet. Is a Wicked Sokolov BP really better than Memento? I'm no doubting it, I don't have the numbers but isn't this build pretty much tailor-made for Memento?

[magic pilot]

Memento falls off in group play, I believe most of the builds are made to fit as much content as possible

Not sure why ceska is on there though

It's over crit cap I think

[hazy steeple]

I always liked Ceska in there so I can stack more CHD, with the rest going to Weapon Handling, overall improving my build.

[rich lotus]

Fair enough. I don't feel like I have much trouble getting stacks of trophies in group play (Ouro go brrrr, etc) but I'll be sure to set up a variant that swaps it out for a Wicked Soko BP

[hexed steppe]

Wicked just more amp total weapon damage. Memento can work well in group play if you're used to using it, never stops me from from using it 🍻

[hazy steeple]

Plus Memento making your Shield be Tier 2 from it alone is worth it IMO.
6 reds and still having a Tier 2 shield. What's not to love?

[gentle lichen]

Holding the door moment

[rich lotus]

Memento is my favourite exotic in the whole game. It's just fantastic, the five-minute passive stuff is so useful

I'm surprised it's been allowed to keep going this long, it feels OP in comparison to anything else in that slot

[hazy steeple]

Well it's well balanced, because you need to be the one doing the killing.

If anything, other "lesser tier" Exotics should be raised up to its level.

[gentle lichen]

You mean ninjabike?

Maybe if it gave 3 pc bonuses instead of 2

[rich lotus]

Memento

[hazy steeple]

Ninjabike has the same "3 cores" as Memento. Ninjabike is terrible.

[gentle lichen]

"In comparison to anything else in that slot"

[hazy steeple]

There is pretty much no situation where Ninjabike is a better choice than something else in that slot.

[gentle lichen]

I like to imagine a world where ninjabike allows you to use 2 gearsets

[rich lotus]

That's become significantly easier with recent weapon additions

[rich lotus]

I'm surprised you didn't say Vigi Grupo or something like that. Ninjabike is too limiting

[hazy steeple]

That would require reworking how Gearsets function in div2 entirely.
Since one of the big downsides of using Ninjabike is that you are missing out on the 4pc Gearset talent, which is one of the few things that can replace a gold backpack slot.

[gentle lichen]

Thought you were talking exclusively about exotics

[gentle lichen]

Ninja objectively bad on anything then

[rich lotus]

Exotics in the BP slot? Oh no way, there's no comparison. The sheer uses Memento has, the immediate buffs as well as the ones that keep you ticking over with time, no chance

[gentle lichen]

" I don't like picking up trophies"

[rich lotus]

I'm not sure who you're quoting

[hazy steeple]

Yes very much so.
The talent it has was (IIRC) somewhat useful in div1, but in 2 it's just badly designed.

[gentle lichen]

Don't want to know. Preferred ninjabike over memento on a cqb build. Ironic

[gentle lichen]

Couldn't use classified on it which was probably the last nail in the coffin for it

I remember 3 pc nomad and 2 pc alpha bridge was a good combo

Was alpha the one that gave 100% health regen?

[rich lotus]

They just need education. Picking up trophies is the smallest price to pay ever, and if you're playing within proper CQC range then it's practically no effort to do it. That's a nuts take, hope they don't still think that

[hexed steppe]

doesnt need to be only close quarters builds tbh. anywhere you can get a kill outside playable area the trophy instantly drops on you instead of needing pickup. most dps will attempt to spawn trap, and anything behind those doors is instantly applied. same goes with eclipse and burning everything behind doors 😅

[unkempt dune]

Can you recalibrate ouroborus attribute to damage to target out of cover using crafting station?

[onyx sage]

yes

[unkempt dune]

@onyx sage you actually can? I thought you can only do reroll for chance to get damage to target out of cover like with elmos?

[hazy steeple]

That is correct, you can only reroll the entire thing. (not use the recalibration station)

although the first 2 attributes stay the same, as does the Talent. Just the %'s of the attributes will randomise.

[onyx sage]

i misread that as reconfigure, my bad, as rivens said you can't recalibrate, only reconfigure which is rerolling

there is a lot of word misuse on this discord so you can't blame me for folks using the wrong word for this instance

[unkempt dune]

Thanks binoculars and rivens

[hazy steeple]

Together our names make up the next cancelled netflix drama.

[unkempt dune]

Can you still reconfigure, reroll ourobos even if you had optimized its stats?

[magic pilot]

Yes

[unkempt dune]

I assume yes.

Ok. Ty.

I wish st elmos have damage, cc, dmg to target out of cover..

[hexed steppe]

tbh op mentioned crafting bench, so you were spot on

[hazy steeple]

Unfortunately, all AR's have the same first 2 stats. Same as the other gun families.

[onyx sage]

@hexed steppe @tawdry flare we did it bois. 6 red solo tidal in under an hour

1 wipe tho, so not a perfect run

[vestal ibex]

Naw I blame the blinders this man wears.

[onyx sage]

lmfao

in the future i might go for perfect runs of tidal and zoo but i think that's for 2024

[magic pilot]

What builds did you use?

[onyx sage]

only 2,

1. striker 39% pfe for hovercraft and boss

2. focus striker for anything before hovercraft and boss

[magic pilot]

Strained interesting

[onyx sage]

strained allowed me to finish off an elite before they get healed by a support station

[magic pilot]

Ahh

[merry drift]

striker need 4 iteam to work

no?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[merry drift]

then what's the point of playing 3 iteam

?

[onyx sage]

there are 4, look closer lol

[merry drift]

oh xd im blind

[onyx sage]

lmao

[merry drift]

kekw

[rich lotus]

Of course, 100%, I know that. I was thinking in the context of a Hunters build (which was the original question) but it was a lot higher up

[untold hearth]

For a 1 shot Sniper Build

I got
Chain killer Chest
The Gift
Was told to get 3-4 pieces of Hotshot
If 3 use Foxes Prayers
But anyone else have suggestions they've done?

[bronze hound]

3 hotshot 2 Habsburg 1 airaldi

That's how you get the highest DMG but it's hell to farm for

Looks like this

[untold hearth]

Ah I see what you mean, I'll keep it in mind. Cuz I don't got nemesis lol.

Was planning to use the Relic and White Death lol

[bronze hound]

Relic is bad I wouldn't use it

Alternative is Mantis

[untold hearth]

That I have

[bronze hound]

Yes yes use that until you can get nem

[untold hearth]

Perfect determine is a no no then

[bronze hound]

Yes

It's just not on good weapons

[untold hearth]

Ok just wondering lol

[bronze hound]

But I wouldn't suggest farming for 321

Personally for being new id suggest 4 hotshot with airaldi/vigi backpack and chainkiller

By new I mean not used to the play style lol

[untold hearth]

I get ya, cuz I got the gift with attributes WH and HD

[bronze hound]

I would ditch that for airaldi when you get one

Better to have MMR damage

But it's next best thing in the meantime

[untold hearth]

Ye

[bronze hound]

But seriously because habsburg rolls armour you need two unicorns in the build

Which hurts

Took me months of farming to get

[tawdry flare]

Same can be said about 5.11 you need unicorns which are difficult to farm 😂

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ifkEXmUVKooNSZHyO8ptDHdUpIuE4VDApw1LlS5RSrE/htmlview

Have you guys seen this yet

[onyx sage]

yes, i personally use it and love it

[craggy cloud]

Just farmed a drone turret skill build that was pretty easy to put together and beginner friendly, wondering what I should start doing next, I was told to keep farming summit for better rolls on my gear abut then also told to go farm countdown for exotics, not really sure what to do considering I have 0 exotics and most of my gear isn't maxed stats but decent ish. Kinda afraid of going into multiplayer activities especially countdown and ending up being a brick and useless to everyone else.

https://i.imgur.com/Dj2Nn5s.jpeg

[shy willow]

I suggest heading to countdown and farming for a strikers build

However please put on any other gear that isn't skill based

Some of the enemies will hack your skills

[slate nest]

👑

[pearl carbon]

What's a really good build for that ouroboros besides striker because striker with it makes it insane

Wanna try sum else

[gentle lichen]

HF with memento + ceska chest obliterate

Or grupo with bloodsucker if you're into having big amounts of bonus armor

[glossy scarab]

this build is so much fun. the damage is insane so you can use some blue cores if you wanted. 35% amp damage from versatile w smg+shotgun.

[limpid pelican]

Anyone have a screenshot of a countdown riot foam + hazard resistance build?

[gentle lichen]

By @hexed steppe

[limpid pelican]

Is that the named yaahl mask?

[gentle lichen]

No

[limpid pelican]

Kk cool ty

[hexed steppe]

Damn that's a sexy build 😍

[hexed steppe]

If you dont have a yaahl piece you can put eletrique and roll hazpro on all 6 pieces to get full immunity (100% all).
This is assuming full watch

[astral kraken]

vintage localdeck

[limpid pelican]

Been in the dark zone since trying to farm a mask haha. Will have to come back when its mask targeted loot, not having much luck. I'll run electrique for the time being

[hexed steppe]

Yeah fr. Keep an eye on the clan vendor. Recently regular yaahl pieces are on sale. 3 times in the last 2-3 months. Last time was a week or 2 ago. I used those to fill yaahl mats and craft because they are specific rolls.

Some people only roll a couple hazpro to 70% and use disrupt mod, but I personally prioritize haste in the mods and achieve the full immunity. Foam/fire/shock all present in CD sessions along with the hunter disrupts.

I've also used with perfect creeping but the opportunistic is way too good for your teamates.
Opp+sledge+survivalist 10%+scorpio all stack pretty nicely together 😎

[tawdry flare]

6 pcs 5.11 😎

[limpid pelican]

Currently what I'm going for as we speak. Trying to craft that ideal setup

-100 UG matts lol

[flint wave]

I swap off opportunistic after the hunters

[hexed steppe]

Why, it always helps with adds, heavies, different obj* points that need to be broke... always debuff with scorpio anyways so its basically passing up free damage for the team... the foam will spread regardless.

🤣 I'm a complete opportunistic convert

[flint wave]

as long as you don't proc creeping death off scorpio poison spawn camping has never been easier

[hexed steppe]

Nice thing is its blue rolled so the haz comes up often, just that damn haste/status needed so can be rolled yellow

[hexed steppe]

Creeping always gonna proc off random stuff. The only thing you can really guarantee about creeping is first out of combat foam, which is nice, but not really needed.
I been finding that spread is good regardless because dps usually does the job. I basically hit and run, either with just foam or foam and fire sticky and then off to whatever objective.
I was definitly a creeping user for a long while... it's just with opportunistic I can get some of my missing amp damage back while still helping the team. Ultimately more damage means encounters go faster.

[latent bough]

Hello, i've not been playing for a while now and wanted to know the best stuffs for solo pve ? maybe one for solo legendary too ?

[limpid pelican]

Man. I managed to get status and skill haste on the setup, so called it there and just swapped in disrupt mod. This build should be called the enabler lol

Your dps players shine with this

[hexed steppe]

Yeah fr. I only recently made the opp switch when the setup bp dropped and havent looked back.
It's actually helpful even when the status immune countermeasure is active. Opp+sledge just makes hunters melt

[limpid pelican]

Running countdown with a friend and he just goes "that was the easiest extract i think I've ever had" 😂

[hexed steppe]

A couple easy builds
Striker dps
Nego dps.
Both can use coyote mask and ceska oblit chest
Check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel for a solid list of builds

[latent bough]

My most recent one was full red with kingbreaker

[hexed steppe]

I've always found cc to be my favorite type of gameplay.

[hexed steppe]

Just highend? If so that's still viable. You'll want to farm out an exotic ar called elmo. Mods are amazing 20%chc 20%chd 20% handling

[latent bough]

Can i send screenshots in this chat ?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah just snip tool and direct paste if on a pc

[latent bough]

THis is what i was running

Mods are far from god roll

[hexed steppe]

What's the chc chd from stat tab. Hold g to swap weapons in there and send for both m1a and kb

[latent bough]

For m1a

For kb

[hexed steppe]

Ok cool so not going over chc too bad on kb.
But I would switch the kb out for elmo/famas/carbine7/police m4. Out of cover damage on 3rd attribute. Strained or fast hands talent on the highend.
You're currently tied to the pulse for damage because of flatline. It's more efficient if using tech spec with the pulse laser... you technically have room in the kb to remove a crit mod for the laser so it's not unusable.

[latent bough]

SO bestbet is to farm elmo and pray i drop it ?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah it's an easy farm.
Famas still top damage ar like before

I personally prefer elmo because good mods and really stable. The talent is meh but it's also 70rnd mag

[latent bough]

Still the same way to farm ? (ar focused mission on heroic ?)

[hexed steppe]

I would also look into getting you attributes maxed because you'll probably be able to swap the ceska piece for a grupo piece when everything else is lined up.

Yeah farm ar. Countdown is going to be best because it drops a lot of items and you get credits each complete round that can be used to buy named or exotic caches.
On challenging countdown this boils down to an exo cache roughly every ~30mins.
Quick 15min rounds

Countdown also has selectable target loot like summit

[latent bough]

Thanks a lot

[stiff tundra]

im playing on challenging atm do i need to bump up to heroic to get max rolls?

also does someone have an easy to farm striker build

[patent fossil]

Heroic will help, you can max rolls on challenging (or even Normal) but the chances are lower

Common striker build is coyotes mask, ceska chest with obliterate, and 4 pc striker. There are more details and variations in the pinned spreadsheet.

[sullen sun]

God bless you in the DZ

[glossy scarab]

aint nobody bringing that build into the DZ unless theyre a freaking superstar

[rich lotus]

No way. Or have heavy support from a team

[hexed steppe]

It's a pve build per the original msg

[glossy scarab]

of course it is. i think midas was joking and i was just responding to that and then suddenly it became real like we were all thinking about playing all red glass cannon in the dz

[hexed steppe]

Should do it 😅

[tame flax]

used to be back in 2019

[gentle lichen]

If you have the right team. You can bring a raid build into dz

Minus dch ofc

[torn ore]

What build

[torn ore]

You mine as well spread your ass thick like a PBJ or else the rogues gonna spread em thin like a 1930's flattened cartoon

[tough path]

which build best suits to kill rogue agents NPCs? (fast and with less effort)

[vestal ibex]

Scorpio.

Really just any DPS build and a Scorpio.

[tough path]

thanks

[silk elbow]

What is pure cc legendary build? Eclipse + electrique bp w creeping death + ?
What weapons?

I saw someone saying firm handshake

But that’s obsolete right

[vestal ibex]

Scorpio and lefty. Foam and the other talent can be room dependent.

[silk elbow]

What about armor

Im missing one pc

Im currently running vile + electrque + eclipse 4pc

Should I slot out the vile

Or it could stay and do more or less dmg

[vestal ibex]

Vile is good for the burn EP build. Cc doesn't need the backpack so creeping death, courier if you get one and electrique as a minor somewhere.

[silk elbow]

So ideally eclipse 4pc + courier + electrique 1pc

[vestal ibex]

Yurp. Farm the unicorn habs vigi bag in countdown and you'll get all the couriers you'll need.

[tawdry flare]

The Courier will get couriered to you

[hexed steppe]

Consider acosta go bag. @onyx sage uses it on his legendary cc iirc

[onyx sage]

yep

[vestal ibex]

Consider BTSU and booster.

All other variations depends on team and goals really.

[onyx sage]

yep, depends on the team greatly, btsu gloves overcharging the team makes them a lot more powerful and enables certain strats

[silk elbow]

Is it ok to use blue courier

Does skill level matter that much for pure cc

[magic pilot]

If you use tech it's fine

[silk elbow]

What do you mean

[hexed steppe]

Technician spec Gives a free skilltier. It can make up for a blue core courier and still have your skills tier 6.
You dont want to drop below max tbh

[silk elbow]

Ok so skill tier 6 is a must

[hexed steppe]

Yeah pretty much. At least for cc / burn /turret-drone/ mortar type skill builds.

[magic pilot]

For most "skill builds" you want skill tier 6

[hazy steeple]

How you get that tier 6 is up to you+depends on the build; whether it be actual 6 tiers, tier 5+technician, or even a held Kard+tier 5.

[flint wave]

tier 4 + brazos and tech

[hazy steeple]

Tier 3, brazos, tech, kard.

Now I wonder if that's as low as you can go to teir 6 without just flat-out having tiers.

Tier 6 shield: brazos, memento, kard, tech, 1 tier.

[magic pilot]

Future perfect

Yellow picaros, 2nd brazos (red core), memento, tech class, future perfect, kard custom

[hazy steeple]

And the best part is, you can drop the Kard on the tier 6 shield setup since its going to take 25 minutes to kill something anyway.

[magic pilot]

Lmao

Kard custom actually has good dps

[pearl carbon]

Is there any good pvp builds besides the strikers fir pvp

I'm level 250

[flint wave]

tier 0 future perfect full stack kard brazos and tech

[tawdry flare]

Full yellow 5.11 build

[lethal trellis]

once reach 300k SHD, the health equal to 6 blue, plus 6 skill tier, truly almighty build

[glossy scarab]

i got a second ouro and im trying to roll rof onto it, and the 2nd try gives me this. ugh, i already have one exactly like this though i dont need two. its gonna hurt to re roll this

[magic pilot]

@blissful rampart how times change lol

[magic pilot]

I wouldn't even recommend striker to new pvp players

[pearl carbon]

Yeah alright what build would you say

Like a blue dps

[flint wave]

I recommend not playing pvp to new pvp players

[magic pilot]

Catharsis, grupo, picaros, ceska, fenris, matador if you have it. If not use improvised piece on gloves or holster and move other brands accordingly

Famas with optimist as main weapon, shoot for 4 blue cores. Crit chance and dmg on everything, crit dmg mods on gear

[pearl carbon]

Perfect thanks bro

[pearl carbon]

Yeah fair enough I just wanna start early to be great when I'm aa hella high level because I used to be gifted at div 1 pvp with my exotic urban and full optimised lightweight m4

[sullen sun]

What do you guys think about this?

[onyx sage]

very poorly

[sullen sun]

Clan mate swears by it lol

[glossy scarab]

what

[sullen sun]

What would be the better alternative?

[glossy scarab]

use 3 pieces of striker at least so you can get the damage from that

ideally the chest

[sullen sun]

And this?

[glossy scarab]

very good except you're definitely over the chc cap. you dont need that ceska piece. grupo or sokolov would be better

Assuming that your outoborus has max chc

[sullen sun]

Could I bring that in the Dz?

Certain ppl are claiming Striker is king rn in DZ with the Oreo

[rich lotus]

It's a bit situational. You have to have your Striker stacks up to the maximum, which means insane timing involved with clearing a checkpoint then having Rogues roll up right afterwards. That won't always happen, someone'll catch you cold and you'll get bopped

Anyone can deal with the PvE aspect, there's nothing to it. I'd still recommend you have a pulse resist build regardless

[hexed steppe]

Ceska still good with oreo. You'll be in close buff coyotes so no extra chc from it.
31chc oreo, 10 ceska, 12 chc secondary rolls,
Watch maxed puts you at 62 and all other rolls chd.
Secondary will have better chc as well this way but will also benefit from mid buff

[rich lotus]

Plus, if you max out Ouro, have a maxed Coyote and a Ceska piece, you can put CHD on everything else and be just a tiny bit short of the cap. I think I'm 58-59/165 with pretty much that exact build

[hexed steppe]

It should hit 62 63 max so you should be pushing cap

Must have some unoptimized rolls

[rich lotus]

Not how I operate, no
Going to go in and check

[hexed steppe]

Max would have
31 chc oreo
12 chc highend/coyote secondary rolls
10chc ceska
10chc max watch

Anything less in that setup is because of the rolls or the watch*

[rich lotus]

Yeah, 63. Just short with a slightly different build
21 from Ouro
6 from Coyote
16 from Ceska
10 from watch

[hexed steppe]

Oreo has a chc mod too, correct?

Its only 10 from ceska

[rich lotus]

Underbarrel, that's where the last 10 is from

It's not 12, it's 16. The brand bonus plus the 6 secondary attribute

[hexed steppe]

Ok

[rich lotus]

I have a workflow issue in that case, there's about five or six variants of this one thing (one for solo, one for Sledging, one with Obliterate and one without) that I'm not optimum with this one. In this case, considering my build is 63/153, is it worth replacing that with a Grupo chest or a Sokolov one?

53/168, or 53/163 plus 10% SMG damage that won't always be in use (I use a FAMAS as a secondary for health damage specifically)

[hexed steppe]

If oreo no. You'll be close range and end up running lower chc . Coyotes close buff is 35chd only

[magic pilot]

Technically ceska is still highest dps even though it's overcap

[rich lotus]

It just feels wrong to be throwing that 3% away. Fair enough though, I'll stick with it

[hexed steppe]

You can take chc x chd for both setups to get a quick check. Make sure you count overcap as 60 for accurate read

The 3% wll apply to your famas

Check your stats screen and check chc/chd for famas too. Thatll be more mid range use so you'll want to hopfully be in 50 range

Should be a tooltip for button press to switch weapons

[rich lotus]

Ceska - 60x163 = 9780
Soko - 53x163 = 8639

This whole study is bullcrap though. 10% SMG damage may not be accurate, I've just swapped out the chests and I don't get an additional 10% on my primary (it's about roughly half that)

101.1k versus 97k. Unless that number is wrong on purpose and has other things applied to it

[hexed steppe]

10% is additive with your red cores and specific weapon damage on the oreo

[rich lotus]

And not on top of everything, I'm guessing

[hexed steppe]

Only time wd brands are beneficial is when you're running blue cores.

Or headhunter/pestilence

[rich lotus]

Yeah, getting that feeling. I would've thrown Picaros out a while ago otherwise
(not for the brand, but for the specific attr)

[hexed steppe]

Crit is best and then when that is maxed is when contractors dta and fox's dttooc come into play

That why high end dps always has those 2 pieces as you cap the chc with all the secondary rolls

[rich lotus]

Well, of course. I have been putting off reviving a pure red build for a while though, really want to try Iron Horse sometime

[burnt mesa]

Whats the pvp meta rn?

[dense seal]

I'd swear a lot too, if I was running that.

[sullen sun]

Optimist lol

[rich lotus]

Agent down

[magic pilot]

Check the pvp builds in the pinned sheet. Deco Raucey and me all have meta builds posted

[pearl carbon]

Anything higher dps and damage then strikers

[tawdry flare]

can you make a 5.11 variant too with chameleon?

[fallen comet]

how long is the 5.11 thing gonna go for

[magic pilot]

Does it have to be 6 pc @tawdry flare

[rich lotus]

Could you imagine how much worse it would be if 5.11 ever gets a buff at any point?

[fallen comet]

oh jeez

[rich lotus]

It going from a mid-tier gear set to OP would be ridiculous

[fallen comet]

mid? lmao that thing is ass

[glossy scarab]

that'd be fine. farming it wouldn't take that long. im definitely not keeping any 5.11 gear just in case tho

[rich lotus]

I was being nice I don't want to hurt their feelings

I think it's all a social experiment. They either work for 5.11, or they want us to think of them every time we get a 5.11 drop
Similar to binoculars every time I get a chest with Focus on it

[glossy scarab]

i might use deathgrips if they weren't kinda a waste of a perfectly good brand bonus slot

[pearl carbon]

Anyone know the best dps damage build besides the og strikers

Anything better then that

I know I don't have everything fully procd so I can't get Max damage anyway but o got strikers looking for another op set

That'll get me like 600k crits

[gentle lichen]

Striker's is highest single target dps

Other than that would be negotiator's

[patent fossil]

nego is great whenever you've got multiple targets to deal with

[untold hearth]

Hear me out, I'm working on a 1 shot Sniper Build. Currently this is what I got ATM.

The chest should I change that CHC to Weapon handling??? The backpack is perfect with Weapon handling on it and Headshot Damage.

Mask has CHD, Gloves has CHD, and Legs have full Headshot Damage

[glossy scarab]

Negotiators is a good distance build with something like st. Elmo and an M1A (CQB). Its a little less effective when you're close to your targets

[glossy scarab]

that reminds me. i finally got some good rolls on airaldi chest and backpack. my other versions have chc not weapon handling,

[untold hearth]

Lol

[glossy scarab]

gotta optimize the hell out of them

[untold hearth]

Should I change the attribute on my chest then to weapon handling?

[glossy scarab]

only if you're not attempting some kinda crit headshot build

[patent fossil]

yes, and swap to headshot damage on mask & gloves

[gentle lichen]

Don't bother with handling

[glossy scarab]

helps with reload speed too not just stability/accuracy

[patent fossil]

personally I'd run 4pc hotshot instead of foxes, the aok and free reload are rather nice if you don't miss too often

[gentle lichen]

Not gonna need to reload when hotshot

[glossy scarab]

oh yeah i love that

[untold hearth]

I would too but this is for now tho

I'm swapping the chest attribute to weapon handling

[glossy scarab]

the bonus armor and endless ammo are nice

[magic pilot]

I personally use handling because it reduces the time the reticle takes to "focus" when not using a scope

[glossy scarab]

target acquisition

[magic pilot]

Also at 100% you have no sway

[gentle lichen]

It helps with that? I assumed you reach maximum acquisition speed when stationary

[untold hearth]

Both chest and backpack now have Weapon handling and 2 Headshots damage 👌🏻

If I'm doing the Mask, what should the mod be? Headshot Damage too?

[patent fossil]

handling actually reduces the time to scope in too, although it's not very noticeable unless you have a big handling boost like golden bullet

[gentle lichen]

Hotshot bonus

[glossy scarab]

30% i think?

[gentle lichen]

Biggest diff i noticed when HE sniper vs Hotshot sniper

[gentle lichen]

Yeah

[magic pilot]

Headshot on everything for sniping, secondary attributes handling or crit chance

[glossy scarab]

high end build with handling on every piece gets you 48% handling while hotshot gets you 46 (not including shd watch)

[gentle lichen]

I use contractor's and foxes and punch drunk

[glossy scarab]

oh yeah

[gentle lichen]

So 18% lost

[glossy scarab]

forgot about that i use those too

[gentle lichen]

Oh nah I'm dumb lol

16%

You can roll on punch drunk

[glossy scarab]

yeah thats what i use on punch drunk

[magic pilot]

Should have 40% on high end

[lapis grove]

can someone send me a good build to do the incursion with

[patent fossil]

4pc striker including chest & backpack, coyotes, ceska

[magic pilot]

Chest no

[patent fossil]

decent AR (eg famas with fast hands)

[magic pilot]

Never forget.

[gentle lichen]

Damn

[patent fossil]

ideally chest only for 3rd & 4th encounters, for first two ceska obliterate chest

[glossy scarab]

those were not the good ol days

[magic pilot]

Lmao

Pre striker buff was a different time

[gentle lichen]

Is this when stacks are lost when missing?

[patent fossil]

yup

[magic pilot]

I'm not sure cause I wouldn't even touch striker lol

[gentle lichen]

I would still use it

[magic pilot]

It was horrendously bad

Max stack was 100 with chest. Bp increased the dmg to what it is now by default

[gentle lichen]

I remember that after damage buff the lost stacks when missing still existed

[magic pilot]

I think it's .65 now per stack?

It was .5 with a max of 50 stacks

[gentle lichen]

I remember when 150-200 stacks you lose 5 stacks lmfao

[patent fossil]

yeah, but stacks now are additive, they used to multiply with each other

[magic pilot]

Yea that was rough, during the intial buff and it was changed shortly after

[magic pilot]

True

[patent fossil]

like HB on release, 171% amp with just 100 stacks and you got all the bonus armor too

[lapis grove]

what spec?

[gentle lichen]

Wow so that's why i used to dominate dz when i was a scrub

[untold hearth]

Alright not all the attributes are completely full, but they're good enough. Chest and backpack are literally same rate lol.

If I get a knee hotshot, if I wanted to run 2 blue's. Would the gloves and knees be alright? That I still would do damage.

Or am I forced to use all reds lol

[gentle lichen]

Good riddance

[patent fossil]

not too important, gunner is probably easiest for general qol

increase rof helps with the striker stacks, aok & ammo regen is nice

[gentle lichen]

I'd argue firewall for dps shield

[lapis grove]

smth like this?

[rich lotus]

My demands for D3: 1) an API, and 2) some sort of variance in builds. It would be neat if we could use most things and be able to make them work

[gentle lichen]

And damage support on wright + lovebirds

[patent fossil]

yeah, but with all red cores ideally

[rich lotus]

Just Strikers all the time, I swear we all used M1A red builds for about a year non-stop. They've got to be more proactive about this

[lapis grove]

i have diganosed skill issue

[gentle lichen]

3 per miss 💀💀💀

[glossy scarab]

gonna have to forget about all that if you're gonna dps incursion

you need your reds

[rich lotus]

And you need to be able to survive Heroic-level stuff too

[patent fossil]

shoot 'em in the head and they won't shoot back as much

[magic pilot]

It was rough

[untold hearth]

Anyone?

[glossy scarab]

if anything use pfe mods and survivalist spec. it makes a big difference in how quickly you can die

[lapis grove]

k now what

[rich lotus]

In some pretty hectic environments if you're not used to it or are overwhelmed. That skill issue has gotta go, immediately

[magic pilot]

I'm watching old videos and all I see is players at almost 0 stacks lol

[glossy scarab]

now you're lookin good

i would change the scorpio to an ACS12 or lefty

[vestal ibex]

If you have a bloody knuckles they are extremely useful.

[gentle lichen]

Unless the target was a hyena shield or chunga you won't be at 10+ stacks lol

[lapis grove]

rock 'n roll?

[glossy scarab]

yup

[vestal ibex]

I'd have a lefty for wright fight so you can help sledge tho.

[rich lotus]

And if you could get a FAMAS with Fast Hands instead, that's pretty much as good as you can get without using an exotic slot

[untold hearth]

Can I get 1 last opinion before I sleep? 🙏🏻

[lapis grove]

k now how do i farm competent team components?

[vestal ibex]

Discord servers with VC

[rich lotus]

Screenshot is making it hard to help, there

[glossy scarab]

https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/1160945846100185098

[untold hearth]

.

[gentle lichen]

Looks good. I would recommend hotshot bonus instead of foxes

[untold hearth]

Oh ik I gotta get it, this is just for now

If I get a pair of extra gloves, knees, or hotshot holster. Is 2 blue cores OKAY? Just for survival sakes

[vestal ibex]

You can use foxes it's fine.

Unless you want the no reload from 4pc you don't need it.

[gentle lichen]

Totally but the utility behind hotshot especially when 5d is unmatched

[untold hearth]

I'll get the knees no worries, this just for now

[vestal ibex]

Eh it's preference and I just want them to know that.

[tawdry flare]

📌

[untold hearth]

But for future reference, are 2 blue Cores OKAY? If I wanted to

[gentle lichen]

So long as you can 1 shot and stack HH you're good

[vestal ibex]

Solo heroic yeah sure. You should still hit all the same enemey classes.

[glossy scarab]

you will get kills on most enemies once your buff is up but it will be harder to get the initial headshot kill

[gentle lichen]

Nemesis fixes that

[patent fossil]

fine for solo at least, for 4-player you probably won't quite hit the damage breakpoints to maintain 1-shots

[untold hearth]

Thank you everyone, this all helps for the future 🙏🏻👌🏻

[flint wave]

for solo 4 hotshot is bis

even on legendary

[untold hearth]

11 mill damage ATM, only cuz need to optimize a few left.

[untold hearth]

Them knees I'll get it soon 👍🏻

1 build all red, and the other 2 blue's difference

[shy willow]

It'll one shot on leg?

[flint wave]

yes

[shy willow]

Oh damn

[flint wave]

only minitanks don't get oneshot

[vestal ibex]

Just crank some expertise into WD and you'll be cracking WAY higher numbers.

I wish I had exos for days but I'm too lazy to farm them.

[flint wave]

I have 18k countdown credits

[vestal ibex]

that's like 80 exos rip. Better off running DZ hell.

[shy willow]

Ah so this is what I've been missingggg

Time to heavily invest into my white death

[vestal ibex]

Getting up to 10 is super easy and even 15 is pretty cheap on exos.

[tawdry flare]

With HH expertise is nice

For example if you are going to use hh memento than expertise like 15-18 is the threshold to one shot red on solo heroic

[shy willow]

I think I have like 80-100 exo components in reserve idk how far that'll get me

More worried about having enough dang steel

[flint wave]

Just takes one wony run

[shy willow]

Is shd 1000 enough

[flint wave]

50 x 200 steel

[shy willow]

Definitely enough

[vestal ibex]

You got all 4 characters made and leveled? Plenty of extra points there to use.

[shy willow]

Stuck to one so far

Probably time to change that

[flint wave]

you can also use the second and third char as mules

only so many named weapons my 300 inventory stash can contain

[rich lotus]

Need to go WONYing at some point. Just don't feel like it 😐

[sterile scarab]

Breaking what weapon/ gear gives titanium??

[vestal ibex]

Pretty sure it's just a small chance to get a tiny bit on deconstruction. Should be in the perks stuff at the quartermaster if you wanna see the details on it.

If you are asking what's the best way to farm it? Depends on your SHD level. Wony is by far the best time investment/payout you'll get once you are even at like 1200 SHD and the higher you are the better that ratio gets. Other wise outcast drop them and there are plenty of farming routes like the daily solar farm thing.

[sterile scarab]

Thanks I have to bother you one last time @vestal ibex say I'm going the deconstruction route is it smgs?

Damn I'm so sorry I meant carbon fiber

For expertise

[vestal ibex]

Printer filament?

[sterile scarab]

No carbon fiber . Sorry

[glossy scarab]

Gear set pieces give titanium

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but you are talking about for expertise right?

Like you wanna donate to get a higher level?

[broken crane]

@astral kraken I took ur advice for the crit chance chest but I still maxing out my specialization firewall so I don’t have the bonus 15 dmg

[sterile scarab]

@vestal ibex @vestal ibex no just to improve some striker I got at level 7 to 12

To 11*

[flint wave]

give this man a better st elmos third attribute

[vestal ibex]

Ahhh well lots of ways to get those mats tho. Double up and run countdown for a gear set you could use and decon it and buy the material caches with countdown tokens after.

[sterile scarab]

So deconstructing gearsets yields carbon fiber??

[broken crane]

Sadly I just started and I don’t have enough mats to reconfigure