td2-pvp-discussions

[simple wasp]

how much xp is junk worth

the same?

[dire ferry]

Depends on what the item is

If it’s a named item or an exotic 20 of the is enough to max it out, if it’s a normal brand or weapon it’s more, don’t know the exact number

[simple wasp]

ok ty

[calm plinth]

if you want to grind expertise go into countdown and donate all the loot you get

don’t waste your mats

countdown will still take forever though it’s a really terrible grind

[simple wasp]

ah ok ty

[calm plinth]

i think you should focus on getting your shd to at least 500(?) or whatever you need to get for max crit chance

and make a perfect spotter, umbra, and smg build

[simple wasp]

hmmm

ok

[calm plinth]

i just say that bc you’d have a top build for every scenario, replace picaro with grupo on the spotter and maybe contractor for fenris or walker since you’re low shd idk

[simple wasp]

just 1v3ed a team with two exotics

[craggy trench]

True

[simple wasp]

they left the server

[craggy trench]

Who?

[simple wasp]

idk some 3 man clan

[craggy trench]

Ahh

[simple wasp]

farming landmarks i go to them

they go rogue shoot me in the back

[calm plinth]

put this man in a server with exe and nmc immediately

[simple wasp]

i come back when they are putting their loot in the copter

and wipe em all

take the loot and extract myself xD

free coyotes and some ar

[calm plinth]

if you’re on later tn i’m down to play

[simple wasp]

sure i may get rinsed in high shd lobbies

[calm plinth]

do you know how to corner peek

[novel osprey]

Heads up. The modifier that halves you ammo will go with you to the DZ

[simple wasp]

Yes

[wet badger]

I wouldn't be so sure right now

Isn't there 3x xp? Just get on with it and get 1k already, you already have a good build for ur level, pass the minimum bar and you'll be fine.

[wet badger]

NMC tried it couple nights ago, one of them on the funny sauce so I went skills, they never got another kill. Even with a menu.. hhh funny team

[boreal jewel]

All you need is just the build shd means nothing in raids.

I did my raids around ~300 shd level back then.

[simple wasp]

at 842 now

working on expertise

[inland tusk]

Ppl just don't take dmg today, 😒

[calm plinth]

p sure even the non flagged ones purchased new chairs recently

[simple wasp]

think ive cooked

[dire ferry]

I’m not the level 230 lmao I was talking to him

[simple wasp]

it was me, im now 842 though so quite a step up

[calm plinth]

go for a double barrel with optimist and a m870 mcs with brazen

[last quarry]

Guys take a closer look at this build at the weapons and how much dmg I've got from him

[tawdry pier]

eyyyy my boy

must've hit you cleean with a nice sticky

[last quarry]

I died instantly

Nope I've been shot be him

In open field

[tawdry pier]

clip it

maybe he got one of them chairs too

[last quarry]

I believe is a fake build,my opinion

[calm plinth]

get stickied noob

[craggy trench]

I don't understand peoples fascination with posting who killed them

[tawdry pier]

they look up to them. figuratively and literally

[wet badger]

if u want a proper explanation to what happened then its better u provide a clip from beginning to end

thats a pretty mehh status build anyway

[last quarry]

@calm plinth maybe I am a noob but u r a bot if u can't read my post ! Well the difference between a noob and a bot is big!

[craggy trench]

I doubt he's a bot or noob lol

[boreal jewel]

Maybe he’s both or neither

Quite the dilemma

[tawdry pier]

Schrödinger's mae

[neat musk]

idek what that message is suppose to mean

I swear console players shit talk would make more sense if it was written in latin

[neat musk]

inspect is almost always behind

takes like 3 minutes to actually show changed build

[tawdry pier]

if they are in nearby it's consistent as far as i know

[neat musk]

ive tried to check prodigies build while being directly besides him and it took like 5 mins to actually change

or just never changed

[craggy trench]

True ^

[tawdry pier]

weird because i know if player for example is in white house and you are in dz checkpoint it'll not show exact build but if next to eachother it always did for me

[craggy trench]

It was an issue last patch 100% same thing happened when me and Raucey were playing conflict

[calm plinth]

the damage stuff is pretty consistently inaccurate for me

most of the time it shows i took damage from no one or like 10k from someone

so i would never go off of that to determine if someone is cheating or using a glitch

[last quarry]

In this context of my post he should answer politely like other guys from here. I didn't accused nobody of cheating, just asking for an opinion. I didn't report nobody. I know that in division 2 are many display errors . Anyway in to the leader board it is only one place for the best one player so my question is that all the players should consider them self's noobs or bots? Another thing is that I didn't saw @calm plinth on the 1th place in the leader board! I'm out peace to everyone and wish you all a beautiful weekend!

[tawdry pier]

Mae isn't on leaderboard because he doesn't play ps...

[amber ice]

Is this more trying to call out cheaters?

I'm going to assume that no one is breaking Rule 12, as it's going to be heavily enforced in this channel.

[wet badger]

Even then it can be delayed, also, he says he got 1 shot, maybe he was on fire but a sniper killed him and we all know 1 shot kill high damage shots can prevent them showing up on the death screen.

[wet badger]

Maybe he wasn't sure and came here for advice, the issue I have is we needed more context which a clip would have provided.

It's better for a player to ask for advice rather than assuming he is cheating, sometimes this game is funny to those who don't quite get it and all they need is an explanation.

Most cases of hackusating are due to a lack of game knowledge.

[icy dove]

Yeah you got 1 tapped by a skilled build. Nothing new or suspicious about it

[inland tusk]

I am 1th place on the leaderboard

[inland tusk]

Proof or didn't happen

[marble dove]

Ran through dark zone got 3 airdrops 0 players is this game dead dead?

[neat musk]

nuh uh, im 1rd place

[tawdry pier]

what's up when they come out like that? no door animation

[wet badger]

im sure a lot of people are still farming season... you know... the ones who didnt spam missions for season xp

[craggy trench]

probably out of render

[limber cedar]

Only from the player perspective the animation is present, for others, the agent 3D model just spawns in the front of the door.

[wet badger]

No idea but I want it

[calm plinth]

desync

[simple wasp]

what we think of this

[craggy trench]

Super mid

[simple wasp]

o_0

[calm plinth]

if you want to use hsd get reg

[simple wasp]

im trying to make a bighorn hs build that isnt regen

ive got a regen current

but i just get destroyed by dps

[calm plinth]

you can maybe get away with striker or HB big horn

[simple wasp]

so i either need to switch build or use unbreakable instead of everyday carrier

[neat musk]

Use everyday

[simple wasp]

dz is just full red umbra pesti

[simple wasp]

iam

but i dont even get time to use it

[calm plinth]

use reg it beats everything

[neat musk]

Skull issue

[calm plinth]

even after nerf

[neat musk]

Don’t tempt him

[simple wasp]

not really if anyone stands still and meds its insta die

[neat musk]

Keep him from the dark side

[neat musk]

Use cover

[simple wasp]

i dont have time xD

[calm plinth]

they’ll die to 3 bullets of your reg

[simple wasp]

may have to dabble

[calm plinth]

it’s a headshot based gun

[simple wasp]

looks fun

[calm plinth]

my go to for server fights even after nerf

[neat musk]

You and everyone else

Hate pistol builds

[calm plinth]

headshot version and crit version (replace headhunter with ub)

a decent tank one

since you’re new you could prob throw that one together fast

[tawdry pier]

Catharsis way more beneficial

Especially after buff

Additional setups if you want to run around and proc bonus armor with chem holding

Not sure if anything post patch can change those builds.
Maybe just double barrel because reload speed on that is actually downright horrendous

[calm plinth]

ur builds are def better but ik its hard for him to get matador and hazpro guards so early

is reg good on console?

[tawdry pier]

Very

The good part is that either the players do not expect it and or not know how to deal with it

[calm plinth]

have you played any of the sweaty 'comp' players with it

[tawdry pier]

Imo i wouldn't fight a pistol player because it's scary as hell.
Getting 2 tapped while holding a corner is crazy

[tawdry pier]

Meta 1v1s guys?

[calm plinth]

yeah'

[tawdry pier]

The dps one eats them for breakfast

Tanks just make it embarrassing

With tank you really just fish for any corner and shoot back or hold chem and run around them

Worst guys to deal with are intimidate shotgunner

[tacit pond]

real ones got the 5r/1b split ☝️

[calm plinth]

u can run 2 blues and still 2-3 tap the same builds

[tacit pond]

shhhh

dont tell them that

[calm plinth]

sometimes i run 3 on that one in server fights

[craggy trench]

@calm plinth NB is probably one of the best reg console players I've seen

[calm plinth]

im surprised reg works there honestly

[craggy trench]

There's a couple

[tacit pond]

everytime i play reg i realize how shit i am but thats ok

[calm plinth]

a lot of it is reading peoples movement

at least for me

i aim in the direction their going or i think their gonna go and it just works

[tacit pond]

i play too close up i think...

[calm plinth]

well if ur super in someones face its reading + flicking

[craggy trench]

You should see Oni play reg on console

It's infuriating

Oni

He runs something like this basically all the time, at least the last time I ran into him. Probably almost a year ago

[calm plinth]

i could see people putting on a ton of armor and just abusing aim assist with it

[craggy trench]

He "charges" intimidate with foam

So it's hard to push, plays super close quarters and he's got great movement

[dire ferry]

lol i keep the same build in my back pocket

i normally use contractors but when i first made it i used yaahl

but otherwise same lol, stole it from someone in dz

[inland tusk]

Oni runs technician for to proc bonus armor when holding foam,he has 3 4 variations of the same build,all blue hzp armor regen,the same build but with 3p yaahl,hs hzp one

[dire ferry]

ye i saw the technician but i mean the same exact build barring specialisation

[calm plinth]

now that i’ve had more experience with reg it might not beat everything anymore

the nerf was brutal

[quick oasis]

Does anyone know if cavalier set work in pvp with hazpro to team mate?

[tacit pond]

it does

[quick oasis]

Ty

[wet badger]

isnt that guy just abusing the dodgecity holster for bodyshot damage?

[craggy trench]

Not that I know of

[inland tusk]

He did have one such build

[tacit pond]

very lazily patched!

[limber cedar]

lol

[wet badger]

It seems the update didn't really bring anyone back, too little too late. DZs are dead most of the time and the remaining players dodge, cry cheats or are cheating...

[calm plinth]

what made you think this update would bring people back?

[nocturne vale]

Anyone got a decent PVP build for the darkzone!

They can share just want something else ive been running the same build for too long and just wanted some variations of builds to try play with something versatile, as I keep running into people with big horn regen builds 🤷🏽🙄

[calm plinth]

what type of guns do you want to use

[inland tusk]

Nothing new,on console its always Cronus etc..

[calm plinth]

ah yes anti recoil on a game with no recoil

truly ruining the dz

[inland tusk]

N-N-NNNO the Eagle Bearer has recoil!!!1!!1!11 Please buff it’s hard to handle 🥺

PTS chat recap btw ^

PC players struggling to pull their mouse down while shooting

[lavish basin]

I don't think it was the recoil people were complaining about, but the damage nerf. I still use it in solo play, works great against requital.

[inland tusk]

Fair, the damage was also mentioned…

[craggy trench]

Never had that issue tbh

[neat musk]

@rain anchor you have explaining to do

[inland tusk]

I mean I’m not sure how hard recoil control is on console so I won’t comment on it— but PC players saying it’s hard to handle is just wild to me

[gloomy goblet]

Console player here. Recoil in division is not noticeable. You hardly have to pull down.

I would say skill issue but that seems mean so perhaps it’s a learning curve

[calm plinth]

y’all are gonna get our image perms removed doing all that

[craggy trench]

Whaet knows better lol

[tacit pond]

yea right

[neat musk]

I mean in this case it doesnt matter

those were said in this server

a message link or a screenshot is the exact same thing lol

[weak kernel]

Is pestilence regen still viable with y6

[neat musk]

uhh

was it ever

[calm plinth]

it’s a meme build that works in 1v1s

my friend farmed me with it a few days ago so idk

[neat musk]

it sounds funny

[tawdry pier]

they buffed rpm by like 200 in console its pretty popular

i remember only using it long ago in conflict because if you afflict downed player or the one reviving idk they'll basically not be able to revive/be revived

[rain anchor]

What explaining? (Srry late response)

[tacit pond]

.

[wet badger]

EB feels noticeably worse, I'm a big user or ex user of EB even in strong servers where everyone else is crutching on more competitive weapons, now I won't even think of using it, the Bighorn is too strong, you won't ever win a gunfight against it. The damage nerf means less damage in the mag, I've had multiple situations where I needed a few extra shots to get a kill, and that kill would have been tenacity and tenacity means at least an extra kill or 2...

[inland tusk]

Yup BH didn't need the last buff

[wet badger]

Actually, I did think it needed an extra tune to compete better against the more skill less weapons but the extra headshot damage per stack probably should be reverted.

There is now 0 chance u will win a gunfight with any other AR bar the Capacitor

[calm plinth]

so BH is actually good for server fights now?

[wet badger]

yes, so good that even mediocre players are running around with it and succeeding

[tacit pond]

like compton

[calm plinth]

what build

[wet badger]

any lol

[amber ice]

@inland tusk No more of whatever that is.

[inland tusk]

??

I can’t say the name of the gearset ok

[inland tusk]

Everyone n their mom is a dedicated HS player now,but only with BH 😂😂

[golden ermine]

No

[calm plinth]

well it’s all fun and games until you get in a server full of them i think i developed cpt

[wet badger]

Cpt? Gotta get them skriptzz yo

[calm plinth]

seems like the new trend

[half plaza]

DZ South on xbox is going off right now

Normally only maybe 1-2 people, there's 13. Actually fun to run around for once lol

[gloomy goblet]

The one time I’m on a business trip holy shit

I must test my new memento DZ build

[limber cedar]

that's false, servers can only have a maximum of 12 players

[half plaza]

Yeah my b, one left and another guy came in, and my recently played with didn't update the time

Full squads actually fighting

[hollow mural]

thoughts on this for a more pve basted dz build? You think it would survive a pvp encounter?

take it back it is mid as hell in pve

[tacit pond]

could use some work

[hollow mural]

more than some 💀

[tawdry pier]

kinetic on a 1 skill tier + no skills to benefit from? on kill bag talent?

[hollow mural]

the drone does benefit from kinetic. but the bag is uhh... I ran out of crafting mats.

[tawdry pier]

that's a fixer drone? it gives enemies wallhacks btw

they can see the green line from the drone to you from any range

[hollow mural]

.....

[tawdry pier]

and behind walls

[hollow mural]

.-. the more you know

[tawdry pier]

welcome to division pvp

[hollow mural]

id asume the same for the repair roller?

[tawdry pier]

if you mark someone with it you can know exactly where they are

i had a bug in conflict where i marked someone with seeker and they died and when they respawned i was able to see them at all times via seeker

[hollow mural]

lamo

honstly sad about that fact since I enjoy using repair drone for pve

ill switch over to chem when in the DZ now. Thanks!

[dire wedge]

I got a question for ya’ll. How does the EB feel to you guys? Cuz honestly it doesn’t feel as good as the last update . It feels like they changed the recoil pattern tbh.

I also feel like the base damage is way too low

[dire wedge]

I thought I was the only one🥺 it’s literally not good & it my favorite weapon in the game . Even running it w vigilance or concussion doesn’t fix it.

[ripe root]

it still good in pvp if you trigger the talent

[wet badger]

Take off the fenris and ceska

[dire ferry]

which is much harder now due to more recoil and much less damage per mag

EB now feels much different, which is upsetting coz it was my far and away go to for pvp, butnow it just feels kinda weak

i've just replaced EB with capacitor and shoehorned 3pc brazos into my build so i could get 61 rounds in it

[wet badger]

What more recoil?

[dire ferry]

faster rpm plus same recoil pattern means slightly more recoil

[wet badger]

oh right yeah but 50 rpm... i play with higher vertical DPI anyway so recoil is irrelevant to me

[dire ferry]

dont get me wrong its not drastic but when you have the feel for it's old rpm it throws you off a little

[dire wedge]

It definitely feels different especially coming from a person that uses it everyday it feels off.

[dire wedge]

It takes forever now .

[dire wedge]

I play controller on Xbox

[dire wedge]

I’m going back to an old build for the EB
3Pc Providence
1Pc Fenris
1Pc Grupo
Fox Prayer w Crit Damage
Unbreakable/Concussion
199% CritDamage 60% CritChance
1.5 Mil Armor

[dire ferry]

providence and grupo both been nerfed

[distant tinsel]

i know its not there yet but what are your thoughts on my build ?

[ripe root]

As shd 118 it's good

[inland tusk]

For PvP no,for pve dunno

[fleet breach]

Chameleon is fun

I was using it earlier in pvp

But pestilence more my type of fun

[distant tinsel]

pvp yeah done 2v1

but tbh i need to understand abit more with builds i think

anyone done to help lemme know

[swift cargo]

https://youtu.be/bjbpC34LE9s?si=U3rXYlUVzYoo8dTQ

[distant tinsel]

build ?

[swift cargo]

@distant tinsel 2.1m unbreakable matador AR build famas and 2ndary FAL for the distance fellas

Crit damage / crit chance no multiplicatives

[distant tinsel]

you got a ss

my stats

[swift cargo]

@distant tinsel i had some but xbox wiped them, ill post for u when i logg in

Ill send u stat tio

Too*

[distant tinsel]

yee man

i dunno if my stats any good

[swift cargo]

The stats are nice just ur shd lvl is holdib u bak

U gotta be atleast 750

[fleet breach]

1000

[distant tinsel]

how tf can i get there fast lol hahahhahahaha

bc ye i know mine is looking crazy but

[fleet breach]

Clearing landmarks

[distant tinsel]

im just getting back to the game tbh

[swift cargo]

1000 optimal but atleast 750 to get the core stats

[distant tinsel]

soo i dunno whats meta or anything so many new things lol

[fleet breach]

I mean I got 120 levels in 2 days

[distant tinsel]

i got all the time in the world lol

[fleet breach]

I’m only shd 317

When next event comes I’m getting to 600

[distant tinsel]

well all my land marks are over taken

legit all of them

[fleet breach]

I talkin dz

[distant tinsel]

dz bro

[fleet breach]

Yeah

[distant tinsel]

i gotta go into dz

to get shd

[fleet breach]

It’s fun if you enjoy pain

[distant tinsel]

i know its fun

got dps for the people out there lol

done a 2v1 got happy

[fleet breach]

Man went from 300 to 317 today from clearing landmarks

[distant tinsel]

okay i wanna go do dz now lol

[fleet breach]

And murdering people with tick damage

[distant tinsel]

i need a team tho its crazy solo

everyone holds hands like there married

[fleet breach]

Yeah

Especially when farming

[distant tinsel]

bro its like i use a famas rpm so crazy to

[fleet breach]

Pestiborous

[distant tinsel]

rare asf i want

[fleet breach]

That the name of a build

[distant tinsel]

oh really

[fleet breach]

Pestilence with 1400 rpm or more

[distant tinsel]

i know theres a exotic called like borous somthing

[distant tinsel]

i got that

[fleet breach]

Umbra 4 peice plus 3 pice strikers

[distant tinsel]

My build is more up on the chat

There’s a screenshot

[fleet breach]

Ur using bullet king

[distant tinsel]

I also playing on challenging

[fleet breach]

I do to

[inland tusk]

Just because u killed 2 randoms while shooting them in the back once doesn't means the build is good for PvP 😂

[distant tinsel]

Who said anything about shooting them in the back

🤨

[inland tusk]

I do,that build is not good enough for PvP,sry no sry 😗

[distant tinsel]

bro at times its good like it can be really good until you get third partied i understand what your saying lol

[inland tusk]

No 👎

[distant tinsel]

👀

[craggy trench]

Check the pinned guide in #td2-build-advice there's a pvp section

[vital yacht]

Is there a way to make them spawn? Or do I need to spend a certain amount of time here

[tacit pond]

what

[amber ice]

@karmic turtle You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[karmic turtle]

[karmic turtle]

a good way if you like pvp alot is to run conflict in my opinion because you get tons of xp and you can do well at any lvl as you expertise and watch lvl dont do anything for conflict buy its a factor in for dz

[limber cedar]

Bro it was so funny when there were 3 rogues following me, I just stayed hidden in a corner for 4 seconds while activating SC (hiding nameplate) and then went to the same way they came in. they had no idea where I went

[inland tusk]

Congrats on fooling 3 carebears 😂

[wet badger]

You're not even in the big boy bracket yet, when u get there it's even more hand holding and multi grouping etc, if u manage a 1v3 they'll call u a cheater then play alongside a real one to kill you with no problem. Enjoy the sub-1000 bracket for now.

[inland tusk]

Is shieldsplinter still viable? 🤔

[wet badger]

Invisible Hand better IMO

[inland tusk]

Oh rly? 😮

I must test this weekend then 🤔

[wet badger]

I have to test properly, but it has a 43 base mag and a baked in always on talent, u can go x4 CHD mods on it for 45%

[inland tusk]

What is the rpm? 700+

[wet badger]

680 base, the talent gives it +15% baked in

The shield splinter might be better if u reach end of mag but realistically u don't always fire 50 rounds in a row

[inland tusk]

762 i think if my math is correct

[inland tusk]

Was nice with 61 bullets thou

[wet badger]

It's good for a secondary on a non spotter build, but high end ARs won't beat a Bighorn, no chance

[inland tusk]

Nothing can beat bighorn anymore, especially on striker 😒

Maybe capacitor umbra 😂

[buoyant oracle]

Do you need to stack HSD for Big Horn to make it super good, or does it still work with like a generic crit build? Vs say Elmo’s or Ouro

[distant tinsel]

is it worth doing a burst smg build for dz

[dire ferry]

It kinda can work, I’ve tested with a couple crit builds and even just going for body shots it just falls a little short of most other ARs, but if you’re hitting a fair amount headshots in between the body shots it’ll probably outperform most other ARs, except maybe like capacitor

I hate this bighorn meta, the 1 regen hazpro build is just so dominating, it was already super strong before update, in a 1v1 the only way to compete is to use the same build

[calm plinth]

in 1v1s it’s very strong (which it always was one of the best) but i haven’t been convinced in server fights

it’s strong in some scenarios but just not versatile enough

[dire ferry]

Idk man I’d seen people use it in server fights even before the update and do well

[calm plinth]

it can work but in server fights theres builds that would get way more value

[dire ferry]

I’d argue it’s quite versatile, not especially but enough

[calm plinth]

like mantis or nem are top tier rn imo

[dire ferry]

That’s cheesy tho

[calm plinth]

you need a build that can either burst the snipers fast like smgs or reg or snipe them with mantis or nem

ig bh would be good if there’s no snipes or regs or smgs or shotgun builds in the server

[craggy trench]

782

[dire ferry]

But against any of em individually would probably win

[craggy trench]

You can run invisible hand with +15 round and it still has 58 rounds

[calm plinth]

yeah for 1v1s it’s prob the best

maybe even 1v2s

[dire ferry]

That’s what I’m saying, it’s no contest for 1v1s and though it does fall off the more players in the fight it’s still relatively competitive worst case scenarios

Yeah I’ve seen it run for 1vX pretty often

[calm plinth]

it’s always been one of the best 1v1 builds tho more ppl are just using it now

i honestly prefer a bh meta over the last 3 years of metas i’ve seen

requires more skill

[dire ferry]

That’s why I liked ouroboros meta I’m all movement no aim

That’s why I hate bh meta

[calm plinth]

i get it i suck ass with hsd builds too

[dire ferry]

I’m not terrible at hitting heads, but when it comes to only hitting heads I start to fall off. EB was my main before this update, now it sucks

I’m just gonna have to get used to bh coz 99% of the fights on my servers are 1v1s, there’s rarely enough people in 1 DZ at once for even a 4v4

[calm plinth]

you can try crit reg

crit them for 800k while they try to regen

crit reg and mantis are my go to solo builds but i’m also not as good as some ppl here

[dire ferry]

Yeah might, got a couple hs reg builds but hardly touch em

[craggy trench]

Hs reg has the highest skill gap but the highest "reward"

Especially since you can run almost 100% haz and still 2-3 tap

[dire ferry]

Always has

[calm plinth]

hs reg is pretty unreliable vs intimidate bh which is most ppl

if you’re running hazpro reg it’s gonna take like 5-6 headshots

[dire ferry]

What’s the intimidate bh build

[craggy trench]

Yea just because bh build has so much regen

Bighorn scope is also bugged atm

[calm plinth]

just the normal build with intimidate

lemme find a ss

[dire ferry]

Oh instead of everyday carrier?

[tacit pond]

yea

[craggy trench]

You just shift around the brands basically

Same setup

[dire ferry]

Hunter killer with golan or just intimidate rolled on gila/belstone chest

[wet badger]

It will work with crit but theres no point really in wasting attributes ur better off full speccing headshot because when u do land some shots you will just delete people

[craggy trench]

Hunter killer ideally

Since you use Golan anyway

On a non regen build hunter killer is shit though

[wet badger]

That's not true, there are builds that deal with it, u just need to know which ones.

[dire ferry]

Do you? Thought hazpro regen bh was catharsis 3pc gila belstone emperors

[buoyant oracle]

Cool. I’m curious to see what a good BH build looks like if anyone has one handy. Haven’t played in the DZ too much lately except for the season priority objectives

[buoyant oracle]

Duh nm one is right there lol

[dire ferry]

lol ye that’s a pretty meta build rn

[buoyant oracle]

I will have to pop in and see myself hehe

[dire ferry]

Belstone is named everyday carrier chest and backpack talent is adrenaline rush

[tacit pond]

i’ve always ran it with 2pc golan belstone/emp + matador

[craggy trench]

Wait no

Yea that's what it was matador

[wet badger]

so its time to practise

[buoyant oracle]

And prioritize hsd/haz pro yeah?

[dire ferry]

I’ve thought about running it like this before coz took me ages to get gila with adrenaline rush but didn’t know if it would be competitive

[dire ferry]

Yep already said that thanks champion 👍

[wet badger]

Im not sure i agree, people just siut behind a wall and 2 tap, hardly skill, tank pistol? sure but that build is dogshit now

[wet badger]

This one is more 1v1 focused, you probably just want perfect efficient for server but still works as the damage is insane, 350k common number, drop the shield unless you know what you're doing

[calm plinth]

that was the exact one i was gonna send damn

@wet badger is matador worth it?

[wet badger]

yes, i'd drop the 3rd golan for that in server, or the murakami

[calm plinth]

makes sense

[wet badger]

3 gila, matador, efficient is probably more versatile in server with haz rolls

[craggy trench]

Matador is way stronger than any regen bonus

[wet badger]

it you get consistent 3 stacks yes, in 1v1 with only 1 proc no

[calm plinth]

maybe it’s a genuine skill issue but i don’t see how bh is worth running in server fights since most of the time it’s just playing off of long range picks then pushing or pushing a choke all at once and in both cases aiming for the head can be hard since you’re most likely switching targets a lot or having to reposition constantly

[wet badger]

That's why i run this

[calm plinth]

the expertise on everything is insane

[dire ferry]

Bighorn and capacitor are 2 big meta ARs in DZ rn yes?

I feel like bighorn is kinda stronger atm tho

Playing with both even on a crit build as long as I’m hitting a few heads here and there bighorn just feels like it outperforms

[buoyant oracle]

Thank you. Looks good.

[craggy trench]

True

[craggy trench]

@wet badger you notice that bighorn scope is bugged?

[buoyant oracle]

What’s the blue attribute roll here? Haz pro?

[tacit pond]

yea

[golden ermine]

I'd go full blue on that tbh

[wet badger]

nah, its tanky enough, i want to deal damage when i put that on

[craggy trench]

He's at 1.8 with expertise still

[fleet breach]

Pestilence is fun to use in dz

[inland tusk]

Everyone n their mom is now hs player,but only with bighorn 😂

[fiery jewel]

What's the best way to counter Pesti in the dz? And what increases Pesti tick damage?

[boreal jewel]

Killed them before you die

[ripe root]

1. kill them/regen/healer

2. weapon damage, dta, ooc, amp

[golden ermine]

Any level of regen or heals, even a t1 heal hive counters a tanky pest player. Or just kill them fast

[fiery jewel]

What are the current meta chest talents?

[limber cedar]

Unbreakable

[calm plinth]

depends on your build

[simple wasp]

Anyone know if dark winter or lady death could be viable on a momento hunters fury build?

[calm plinth]

you can try LD but chatterbox and ouro outclass it massively

[simple wasp]

Ok Ty

[calm plinth]

you can also try HF with ridgeway and solkov backpack but striker is just better for smgs

[buoyant oracle]

I have been flipping between Ouro and Dark Winter on HF lately. It’s very strong

[neat musk]

Chatter really?

[calm plinth]

i think its a bit underrated in some areas

like if youre fighitng on dz south stairs and the landmark is up im p sure thats max stacks

if 4+ ppl are around its better than ouro too

[neat musk]

Interesting

[inland tusk]

Always Check the pvp modifier on the talent

[calm plinth]

can you send it?

[inland tusk]

Afk

[last quarry]

Guys it is there a possibility to recover the leadership from a clan member that become leader accidentally and does not want to give it back to the real owner?

[arctic glacier]

Nope you're sol

[fiery jewel]

Is Incoming Repairs still busted?

[calm plinth]

what do you mean by that

[fiery jewel]

It used to be op broken with certain things like Catharsis

[calm plinth]

nah it’s not good anymore

[fiery jewel]

What's a better alternative?

[calm plinth]

what are you wanting to do?

[fiery jewel]

Dust off heartbreaker

[calm plinth]

depends how good your aim is

headshot damage is optimal but hard on console

[fiery jewel]

All blue, catharsis, regen, technician llp kingbreaker and aa12 flatline

[calm plinth]

nah that wouldn’t work

[craggy trench]

Not enough dmg

[fiery jewel]

It used to. But I've not played in 6 months or more

[calm plinth]

i can’t even remember the hb build

carth and something else

[fiery jewel]

Picaro

[calm plinth]

idk the console meta but you’d prob want crit but you’d lose a lot of damage

[fiery jewel]

I'm mostly antimeta. Not a fan of jumping on the bandwagon

[calm plinth]

if you want to try it out full hsd with big horn is prob the most common way it’s ran

[fiery jewel]

Bet!

[calm plinth]

i want to say perfectly efficient chest but i could be wrong

[fiery jewel]

I like bighorn in pvp, I just gotta figure out how to control the recoil

[craggy trench]

Ye with catharsis

[calm plinth]

try focusing on the recoil in pve for 10 mins a day and you might see some improvement in a week or so

[tawdry pier]

The first shot is the one that throws off players. After that it's pretty stable

Has a sudden jump and that's it

[wet badger]

It never worked with Catharsis, it was nuked in TU9, 4 years ago.

[craggy trench]

It worked with catharsis in pts when it was first released, it never worked with catharsis on full launch

[simple wasp]

bh with full hs unbreakable adrenaline rush and two improvised i saw worked

run bleed hive and something else cant remember (hasburg and providence for hs)

[calm plinth]

he was prob thinking ab the foundry build

[calm plinth]

bro what

don’t ever run that

[simple wasp]

you get 400% hs with 4mil armour

[calm plinth]

you’re losing damage by using improvised

just bc you get more hsd on paper doesn’t mean you’re actually doing more

[simple wasp]

could run contracters and fox prayer

[craggy trench]

Way better

[simple wasp]

its just what i saw on yt

obvs there is other variations

[tawdry pier]

youtube isn't a very viable place to grab builds from

espesially pvp builds

[calm plinth]

i think the pve builds are worse ngl lol

[tacit pond]

yup

very fun to see what people are fooled into using every season

[tawdry pier]

with the passive modfiers too

watch the one that gives reload speed and rpm but half mag then they make 3 brazos

[wet badger]

hasburg and prov are bad, can i see a ss of this build? also improvised??

[simple wasp]

ill try find it

[wet badger]

so when it comes to making builds obsessing over singular stat sheet numbers is a mistake many often make, i can make a 500% CHD build but it doesnt make it optimal

[simple wasp]

true but there is video of him using it and it looks strong

he wipes out bh regen builds as he does alot more dmg

[wet badger]

correct, youtube videos contain good moments, but if the object is to do more damage then thre are other better ways of doing it

[simple wasp]

agreed, i have yet to try it so ill lyk if i do

[wet badger]

i wont be trying that

[wet badger]

@simple wasp this will do more damage

You dont need hazard rolls but since everyone has gonew back to foam i prefer to survive foam and do a littl less damage

[calm plinth]

that dude is a huge bot

and all his builds are clickbait trash

[simple wasp]

O_o

[calm plinth]

people that clickbait bad builds are part of the problem

tricking people into making bad builds and thus making them not enjoy pvp and quitting is a contributing factor to it being dead

[neat musk]

Interesting

Works well in practice?

[wet badger]

its the same as bad players crying cheats, someone in server types "cheater" then everyone else falls for it then swap to cancer builds/playstyles, RIP server.

[calm plinth]

i feel like it’s cheaters that spread the rumors too 😭

[gloomy goblet]

wdym, of course my booster hive lady death claws out full blue regen build is a good pvp build!

[tawdry pier]

Is that husam lmao

[craggy trench]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwVgtAzAnG4EyTARjsMAGDXM+9gXMJmpghGFABx6602EwlhnJLh0f3BLJpoKdB9FGCYCaEwflTJy-SQo74eaCADZeAdl4wkwamylDj+Y4vybTigmZxA

This would be a good setup

[craggy trench]

scrapped 5 double crit matador, hurts my soul

[boreal jewel]

Good.

[grand moon]

Is the umbra pvp set a powerful set? When I play Conflict, I constantly encounter people with umbra sets.

[golden ermine]

Talents are decent for ranged gameplay

Dps when you leave cover is nice and regen when you enter cover is nice too

[neat musk]

Yes

Its basically the best set rn

Ninja bike and umbra with capacitor is very strong

[dire ferry]

yes, the go to for conflict for me

used to run yellow core on knees but i like the extra armour

not as great in dz, only use it when im in a group, but for conflict it's amazing

[inland tusk]

Wtf is that 😂

[inland tusk]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[calm plinth]

oh no

umbra without sticky is a sin

it does like 500k it’s so good

[dire ferry]

mainly use seeker to find people but also coz i still need it proficient, stickies ive done

[wet badger]

Have u not seen this build before?

[inland tusk]

Nope

[wet badger]

Top 3 meta last patch lol

[inland tusk]

Damn why ppl delete my stuff

[wet badger]

Not exactly like this mind you but the template yes

[dire ferry]

i think he meant the imporvised gear lol

[dire ferry]

build was too OP

[wet badger]

Personally I'd go gila no walker, drone and some kind of sticky

[dire ferry]

yeah i see about 50/50 walker gila with this build, i just used walker coz thats what i had when i made it

if i had gila id add the extra yellow core

[calm plinth]

i personally use walker but gila is prob better for solo

[inland tusk]

Wdym 😂

[dire ferry]

The one u posted that got deleted

[inland tusk]

Yy i saw , it's okay

[broken relic]

@fiery jewel catharsis and fox's prayer Kneepads highest DMG your gonna get, I run Honey badger and ACS-12 with flatline on both. Bighorn is also a great choice and I go for crit chance and dmg

50 crit chance and 81 crit dmg

You can swap to headshot but my acs kills on it's own with these stats. Since you start with your acs-12 I wouldn't run headshot DMG so you can have more DMG on your shotgun

Run bighorn against anti-pulse tho for sure

HEARTBREAKER OT

[tacit pond]

run a ceska if you are gonna go crit

pretty please 🥹

[ancient acorn]

I’d really run something with extra crit mods too over a Honey badger

[gloomy goblet]

Foxes prayer is worse than what a chc and chd rolled ceska piece will do for you

Dtooc is nice but you’ve got a crit build, not a dtooc build. Play into crits as much as possible

Dtooc is not something you’re basing your build on, and the only reason it’s considered best in slot is because it’s the best for when you already have as much crit buffs as possible

It’s especially apparent when you’re using a gear set: you have only one attribute slot per gear item

[calm plinth]

so were running honey badger

[tacit pond]

ikia said it was good

duhh

[calm plinth]

my favorite streamer 😍

[gloomy goblet]

Who tf is ikea lmao

[tacit pond]

i freaking love numbers

[ancient acorn]

Numbers rock

[ancient acorn]

he’s a content creator who does a lot of calculations. #oneofthegoodones

[ancient acorn]

I mean, it lowkey kinda fye. Some places

[gloomy goblet]

Oh, I’ll put them on my list then. Anyone who crunches numbers is a godsend

[ancient acorn]

FR FR

[gloomy goblet]

I kind of have a bitter taste that Kamikaze videos are literally the first thing that appears for division content.

Like, respect the grind, but…

Man.🧍‍♂️

[ancient acorn]

Yeah… this game has some of the worst content creators

It’s just so easy to make bad content because people dont understand or don’t care enough.

[gloomy goblet]

Honestly I just need videos that explain hidden mechanics or raw numbers

I’ll check them out

[tacit pond]

i just post stuff and let the division scholars correct me

i think that’s a good strat

[ancient acorn]

Literally his content

[gloomy goblet]

I am glad I asked who ikia was

[boreal jewel]

God I love it when division scholars play excel gaming

[amber ice]

This game was tailor made for math nerds.

[gloomy goblet]

Gives me a reason to use college level PSTATS

College tuition was not a waste! I get to play video games at their full potential!

[wet badger]

You mean the guy that bans every PvP player/streamer? I was gonna raid this guy one time but I was randomly banned 🚫, I had never engaged with the guy, not even once... I find that crazy

[naive terrace]

Tuxedo Bandido is one of my go-tos. He shows his testing of different gear/builds and talks through it. They are long videos though.

[mortal badge]

Tux is awful...

[calm plinth]

brave for admitting that here

[hollow mural]

any tips on cyclying the dz? trying to find people to heal them for the dz medic

[calm plinth]

the most reliable way for me is to go to summit then leave but i’m p sure just relogging or going to base of operations will do it

[hollow mural]

thanks. Its funny how hard it is to even find people in the dz

[hollow mural]

ok now im sad

why is that the badge

[amber ice]

"doctor and harmacist"

[golden ermine]

Dude, I know, he isn't even a pvper, not exaggerating when I say he is the worst player I've ever fought

[gloomy goblet]

Tux is not better than Kami. Just because the two of them “explain” the build does not make their suboptimal and clickbait builds any better-

All that these “new meta oh my god awesome new build” videos do is get new or inexperienced players to waste time on a build that underperforms

The best type of information is pure numbers and mechanics, and maybe some general pointers like the setups that the gear spreadsheet has.

[simple wasp]

Would a true patriot build with catharsis and matador be viable? (Pestilence included)

Like what would be the best face tank pestilence build

[inland tusk]

Hell nah 😂

[calm plinth]

your bh build but with pesti

[simple wasp]

regen?

[wet badger]

TP chest is worthless, I suppose u go Unbreakable if u want the best facetank ability, but u can main efficient and spam meds like the good ol' days

[tawdry pier]

Bonus points if survivalist to kit for team.
Though matador can impede self damaging yourself with oxi to kit for your team at will

[simple wasp]

another question, how can i improve this?

[tawdry pier]

Drop mask for contractors is a start

[craggy trench]

Mainly shotgun?

[simple wasp]

pesti used the badger for perfectly unbreakable

[craggy trench]

If you are mainly using pesti go 3 lengmo

[wet badger]

My eyes 😭

[simple wasp]

xD

i tried ok -_-

[wet badger]

Go contractor, 3x Lengmo, then choose another named item maybe and coyote/catharsis

[craggy trench]

Contractor, ceska, 3 lengmo with coyotes or catharsis the move

Also zero Fs not worth using unless you are mainly using shotgun

[boreal jewel]

Probably one of the easiest build to make

since all you need is one crit roll on lengmo pieces

[limber cedar]

I hate how the brand patches have nothing to do with the challenge itself, like, revive players in DZ and get this patch from the D&H

[hollow mural]

I was really hoping for a cool looking rouge/dz medical thingy

I cant even find a reccord of what most patches even look like

[naive terrace]

I never said that he was better, or even the best. I've used several builds from both of them and kept a couple of the solid ones around.

I concur about the click bait, but will still watch/listen to some of them just to see if there's anything worth gleaning out of them.

More often then not, I just test different combinations to see how stuff works together.

In the end, if a player can't hit the target, the numbers don't mean much.

[gloomy goblet]

Oh, for sure, it’s just at the end of the day goofy ideas behind 10-30 minute videos and with the label of being something that’s “meta” isn’t something done in good faith

Like, I could post a video of my ToTs flamethrower build and go “oh my god this demolishes legendary” and spiel the same shit, when in reality it’s just a funny idea that is serviceable at best

[craggy trench]

30 minutes? That's a new record

[gloomy goblet]

Pffft

Honestly it’s wild just seeing the runtime of a build idea video

[craggy trench]

Fastest KvD video yet

Most are 1h 10m of rambling

[gloomy goblet]

Like how do you even make a video that long for a build guide

[craggy trench]

No idea tbh

[tacit pond]

he speaks slower than usual

if you speed up the video he talks at a normal pace

it’s weird

[craggy trench]

Delete this

Mods won't like that since it has their names

[inland tusk]

can you help me privately please

[calm plinth]

i’m curious what made you want to use pesti when you said you only wanted to use skillful builds

[simple wasp]

i just want a build i can run and gun or facetank - using a skillful build is fun but not all the time

[wet badger]

he knows his audience

[amber ice]

Rule 12 covers people who aren't here. Criticise a specific person, don't belittle.

[neat musk]

Wait, only people who arent here?

Or do you mean in addition to people who are here

[amber ice]

Odder, shut up.

[neat musk]

Uhh thats not very nice and a violation of rule 1 and 11 🤓 ☝️

[naive terrace]

Well, in my haste looking through, I failed to realize this channel is devoted to PvP. I leave that tomfoolery to others.

I try to be a ghost if I'm in the DZ.

[amber ice]

The joke they're trying to make is less about that specific channel, and more "every div2 channel, except for like 3".

[calm plinth]

run and gun? ouro or shotgun

it’s so situational tho, like a ton of ppl are running bh now and the only way to beat that is bh

[fiery jewel]

Is 10% AR damage better than 12% CHD?

[craggy trench]

Depends on the build

[fiery jewel]

I should be more specific... when a PvP build utilizes 5-6 blue cores, would it be wiser to increase Weapon damage or CHD?

[craggy trench]

It depends on exactly what it is

Brands, rolls, talents etc

[dire ferry]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/

put the build in here with ar damage and then crit hit damage and see what one gives you better numbers

[wet badger]

More often than not fenris will edge out on a tanky build, but it isn't much, consider if u want to use another weapon type, universal damage can be better overall.

[grand moon]

What are the hours when the dark zones are occupied? I want some pvp and it is very boring to spend time with the wind blowing in the dark zone.

[wet badger]

Just cycle DZs until you find the one with action, game is so dead you have to go on an expedition to find action sometimes.

[golden ermine]

Post school/ work times. Like 3 pm + usually

[last quarry]

Hi guys,I have a problem in all dz areas [E,S,W] and would be, every time when my team mates are picking a look in the dz boxes after the rogue status is activated, I am kicked out from the team. Taking rogue status normally is not an issue. Is there a glich error in the game or what? I need to mention this problem is happening since 2-3 days after the last maintenance

[icy dove]

Does your controller have issues with the up or down d pad? Whatever direction it is to leave group when your team is rogue in the beginning. Does that have any issues?

[last quarry]

@icy dove I am running brand new ps5. Should not be problems. Just started 2-3 days ago. Otherwise I am playing mostly pvp and there was no problem till after the last maintenance in div 2

Well I am playing with this controller since few months and I han no problems till now

[icy dove]

Damn that sucks, I haven’t came across that problem. Hopefully you’re not the only one so there can be a mass reporting of it

[last quarry]

I hope so,otherwise it will difficult for to aquire ex components in a team while picking a look inside the dz boxes

[craggy trench]

I'm assuming it's something to do with the controller setting like speed said, I haven't heard of others having this issue

[inland tusk]

Record it,if you see a circle going full when your team is going rogue its definitely controller,also you can plug in a ps5 controller into a testing app on PC

[inland tusk]

Hello hello everyone 😉

[inland tusk]

Sup

[mortal dock]

why my DZ it so quiet

nobody player on there 😦

[dire ferry]

what's the time in your region

[mortal dock]

Asian

[amber ice]

Doesn't that cover about half the globe?

[dire ferry]

late at night DZs are often dead

especially on a weeknight

if it was friday or saturday, or even better target loot, you might see more people

some late nights ill play in the DZ for hours and hours and not see a soul

[mortal dock]

im feel free when i play on there, just att npc enemy, loot and exctract

[amber ice]

Enjoy it whilst it lasts.

[mortal dock]

okey thanks

[calm plinth]

check all 3 dark zones, server transfer by going to summit and leaving

close game and use vpn to change to new server such as NA

[wet badger]

Get a VPN and travel to regions where it's prime time, we are used to seeing many other Asians in our servers, EU, or my friends on NA, personally I couldn't care less about ur lag, sometimes its annoying to die around the corner but whatever, Asians actually tend to stay and fight as opposed to our usual lot.

I remember during the early patches we used to fight Chinese 4 mans for hours on end, non stop action, back n forth, it was a lot of fun, plenty of action and trash talk

[inland tusk]

There are multiple servers ,just because one is empty don't mean all are empty

[buoyant oracle]

When I fast travel to a checkpoint and the game reloads right away, is it switching DZ servers?

[calm plinth]

personally i’ve seen it do both

staying in the same server and transferring out

[buoyant oracle]

Yeah I think so. Like same landmark is active

Another possible dumb question because I’m curious. Is it one dz server for all three dz’s combined or one for each individually?

[hidden charm]

So i'm not the only one rarely finding players in dz then

[dire ferry]

I know?…… did you even ready anything else I said?

[wet badger]

They can be connected like this but also not.

I think it depends if players from the same group occupy different DZs.

Sometimes we make players leave server then find them in the next DZ, it's likely that they entered an empty DZ and one of us followed also getting put in there.

If you're looking for a totally new server best bet is to do it solo, matchmake random activities, go to NY/Summit, wait a minute then come back, usually your previous DZ will fill slots with others and you'll be forced into a new session.

[ripe root]

because as are pretty dead, most pvp clan are vpn travel to eu, you still able find people with matching conflict

[inland tusk]

No because i went to bed 😂 💤

[inland tusk]

Quick question what expertise do you get 1.5 armor with three blues ? Cus i have 1.4 with three blue armor cores but i seen a few with 1.5 ?

I thought it was 20 but i was wrong 😂💀😔

[limber cedar]

Gear expertise only increases the base armor and doesn't stack with armor attribute, so if the chest has 151k, ex 27 gives you less than 41k of HP.
My point: is useless
And the game always round those armor numbers, if you have like 1.551.000 of armor, the game is gonna show 1.6M while inspecting the build.

[inland tusk]

But how does a player get to 1.5 with 3 armor blue cores and 3 reds ? Cus i seen it

On a player ?

[golden ermine]

Rounds up

[inland tusk]

So at what expertise do i need to be to round up ?

[golden ermine]

Max expert I think gives .2 m,I may be wrong, could also be armor brandsets

[limber cedar]

Was there any + total armor bonus from that player?

[inland tusk]

well with thee blues and 3 red cored im seating at 1.4 with expertise 18

?

so even at max expertise ill stay at 1.4 ?

[buoyant oracle]

Maybe a Gila piece in there?

[inland tusk]

no. I didnt see a gila piece

👀

[limber cedar]

Ok, lvl 40 gear in total without blues is 726K. And 3 blues are 510K. So 1,236 + 10% (SHD total armor bonus) is Roughly 1,359 of armor, the rest is probably round and with a total armor bonus gear brand.

[inland tusk]

But i was seating at 1.3

But expertise on my gear i went up 1.4

can i go 1.5 after expertise ? 20

[golden ermine]

Anna pulled out his calculator for it, sheesh

[limber cedar]

And btw, you are not giving full details of his build like expertise level of each gear (not like if that matters) or the brands/sets he was using.

[inland tusk]

im just saying thsts all

If its possible ?

With expertise ?

[limber cedar]

To be honest idk, but I think that's not gonna help you.

[inland tusk]

K

🤔

[calm plinth]

yes

but largely useless

max expertise on gear can make a 1.3 build turn into 1.5 but it’s better spent on guns

or universal pieces you use in more than 1 build like ninjabike or coyotes

[limber cedar]

Bro, imagine spending 384 exotic components just to have more 200k of HP instead of making 6 weapons have permanent 27% WP 💀

[inland tusk]

So max expertise ?

It will be 26 ?

[calm plinth]

yeah i think it’s largely useless but you kinda reach a point where you have nothing else to spend components on

i don’t do it myself tho

[calm plinth]

idk just level your gear until the number hits 1.5

[limber cedar]

He is SHD 2100. I doubt he would spend hours of his life to have 9999 components.

[dire ferry]

probably not

also even it it shows as 1.5, would likely be like 1.4 something rounded up

it's not worth obsessing about seeing 1.5m armour as a stat

[low valve]

DPS builds are cool and all, but I can’t emphasize enough about having a healer. In DZ idk, but I’ve been able to keep people alive for long enough in Conflict, especially since it helps save an armor kit.

[limber cedar]

I have seen a lot of "cloud droppers" on DZ while his team is using full Regen with carthasis. They just strafe around his teammates dropping the healer chem launcher.

[inland tusk]

A lot of ppl look down on a group that have a healer,i have no idea why

[ripe root]

Because it depends on team structure
The ttk of game faster, then usage of healer lower, it's fact
Most people just using pve healer then go pvp, meanwhile his teammate go like 2 blue 3 blue, healer being meaningless

[inland tusk]

Is there pvp healer?

[ripe root]

Every healer in strong team, you see they run like efficiency, and his teammates all running like 5, 6 blue then rush on your face

[calm plinth]

the fact of the matter is you can’t beat a good 4 man group that has a healer unless you have one too

[calm plinth]

low armor builds make healing even better because you get high sustain + damage buffs with stuff like FI

[craggy trench]

Yes and no

[fiery jewel]

Can the Burster Firefly be effective in PvP?

[ripe root]

I do have a build focusing burster and I can tell you, depends where you fight and your team

[fiery jewel]

@ripe root do you have advice on how to use it effectively?

[ripe root]

Fight at spacious place, if you fight at indoor or lane, Burster have extremely high chance hit cover and disappear

Second, feel free to lock enemy skill but not just people, if you locked a skill or people even far away, once they destroyed of die, other locked target (need to be same sequence) would also detonated

For example, if a people running away then dropped a decoy, i will lock him and his decoy then turn to decoy immediately, since my damage are able to one shot, once his decoy destroyed or over, he being dead, even he is far away

[fiery jewel]

😆 thank you!

This is gonna be fun!

[ripe root]

here my buster, as a reference for you, but most important is how good of your game sence to use it well, you need many practice

[calm plinth]

what’s the sys corrupt for?

[limber cedar]

the SC ability has a 20% damage amplification, so it applies to ANY damage, explosive, melee, status, you got the idea.

[ripe root]

Buster damage

[calm plinth]

sounds fun

don’t think i’ve ever seen someone use that skill honestly

[limber cedar]

Double tap armor kit and op Regen stats weren't a thing back in the day, no wonder this gear set isn't being used in pvp.

[calm plinth]

i just meant the skill

sys corrupt isn’t even bad sadly there’s just op things rn that do it better

[limber cedar]

Oh, yeah, skills not being used also isn't a surprise, like remote pulse, firefly, deflector shield

[fleet wasp]

Can anyone tell me a DPS PvP build pls on dv1 I play most predator and nomad
Appreciate the help ❤️

[wet badger]

Not really, just play high burst and kill the healer in 5 shots lol, or 1 tap

[calm plinth]

depends where you’re playing in that case

on dz south stairs or dz east safe house they can just sit in cover

dz south safe house there isn’t really anywhere great tho

[ripe root]

If you fight at South stair with these crispy healer, you thought you avoid consume by healer, in fact you are dying by seeker since your team and you stick together

[calm plinth]

are you the one throwing hardwired seekers at me for an hour straight 😔

[ripe root]

No but if someone throwing you oxid then 99% is me

[calm plinth]

i’ll medkit push turrets just to kill skill builds IDC

nothing is as bad as traps tho that was the worst meta

[tight pewter]

is PVP dead on PC West coast?

can i join any pvp clans?

[amber ice]

#td2-clan-recruitment Is your one-stop shop.

[inland tusk]

This is div2 section

[heady ivy]

Join TRI

[calm plinth]

there’s no active pvp clans other than conflict (and many of those players cheat)

best bet is to server hop and use a vpn to try EU servers

[heady ivy]

@tight pewter aren’t u on Xbox and in TRN

[wet badger]

Mostly yes, head on over to US East.

[inland tusk]

Tell em we got cookies

[heady ivy]

GUYS WE GOT COOKIES PLZ JOIN TRI HEALERS MAINS GET 2 🤭

Seioursly DM me if u wanna join we really just do PVP

[inland tusk]

And pve sometimes ;D

[heady ivy]

Any way FREE COOKIES IF U JOIN

🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[inland tusk]

And burgers on fridays

Omg today is friday imma go get my free burger :3

[heady ivy]

Who’s paying for this

Nvm doesn’t matter join up

[craggy trench]

That's definitely getting deleted lol

[heady ivy]

What is

JOIN TRIGGERZ

[limber cedar]

They are safe if the rainbow skull decides to not show up

[craggy trench]

True lol

[calm plinth]

can we get a video farming ovg?

[heady ivy]

OVG glaze is crazy

[tawdry pier]

Nuh uh

[calm plinth]

how is that glazing

they lasted ab a week on pc then never came back 😭

[buoyant oracle]

Those guys have Ov in their names yeah?

[tawdry pier]

Man they need to take a step into ps

[calm plinth]

iirc they tried

didn’t go well either

[heady ivy]

And they gonna stomp u

[heady ivy]

Come to console then

[craggy trench]

He was on console

[heady ivy]

Read

He said they went to pc

[craggy trench]

Mae was console...

[heady ivy]

Did he get farmed on console

[craggy trench]

Idfk

Ask him

[heady ivy]

@calm plinth u get farmed by ovg on console ?

[calm plinth]

are u in ovg or something 💀

i used to play div 1 console never div 2

[heady ivy]

Maybe 🤫

So did u get beat up or no

[calm plinth]

i only did comp and ovg quit doing comp

[heady ivy]

Yes or no

[calm plinth]

no bruh

[heady ivy]

U should come play ovg on console

[calm plinth]

why

[heady ivy]

To see how it goes

4v4 scramble

[calm plinth]

i won’t claim to be good at div 2 console

but they claimed to be the best when they came to pc

big difference

[heady ivy]

Prolly bc they allready beat up everyone on console

[calm plinth]

i believe in tri

they got it

[heady ivy]

I do to

But I’m friends with lots of ppl In OVG so don’t talk crazy unless u wanna get farmed

[calm plinth]

i’m friends with some too

[heady ivy]

Who

[calm plinth]

actually idk if they are ovg

prob not

idk who’s in clans

[heady ivy]

Exactly

Remy ov gods

Vein was v gods

[calm plinth]

like they did on pc ig

[heady ivy]

They had to come to ur platform to beat u up

Son ov gods made a video

[calm plinth]

you realize son pulled cheaters in to rpm good players

[heady ivy]

Proof

[calm plinth]

https://youtu.be/l4qloBQjclQ?si=dQnGQeEH3snRuGOF

[heady ivy]

Now come to console

[calm plinth]

why

he’s the one that got humbled i don’t claim to be good at console lol

[neat musk]

whats the over under on this dude being 16

[craggy trench]

I've played on controller for 15 years, and I absolutely suck at it after playing pc for 6 months

I would not go back to console after playing pc

Not to mention the fps difference

[neat musk]

having the same motor ability as steve hawking doesnt appeal to me

[craggy trench]

Bro💀

[heady ivy]

Odds of this guy being trash

[neat musk]

pretty high

[craggy trench]

Come to pc and find out lol

I'll make the popcorn

[calm plinth]

we’re gonna get this channel deleted man

[gloomy goblet]

I want popcorn

[craggy trench]

Nothing too bad so far lol @calm plinth

[neat musk]

blud thinks div 2 is competitive

[calm plinth]

what do you mean it’s comp

[craggy trench]

Hot take: the clans are responsible for 99% of the reason people say pvp players are toxic

[calm plinth]

you gotta make the comp build and scramble

[neat musk]

equivalent of making play ground hide and seek competitive

[gloomy goblet]

Ngl who actively plays conflict or goes into DZ for pvp

[neat musk]

1%er gang

[calm plinth]

i actually wish pc div had something similar like that

no one on pc cares ab the game

console players care enough to have tournaments and stuff

p cool

[neat musk]

ill run tournaments

[calm plinth]

i’ve tried

[neat musk]

100$ buy in
date: its a rugpull scheme

[calm plinth]

i managed to host a div 1 pc tournament but couldn’t get anyone to do div 2

[neat musk]

cuz making div 2 competitive is laughable

hate to say it

[calm plinth]

just for fun

doesn’t have to be an esport

[neat musk]

heartland had a chance

[calm plinth]

i think div 2 hsd 1v1s take more skill than div 1 at least

it’s just the culture

[neat musk]

omg

[heady ivy]

Agreed

[neat musk]

"its the culture" has to be the dumbest thing we invented in 2024

[heady ivy]

Then get out of div 2 bc PvP is competitive

[neat musk]

Im not in div2

[heady ivy]

Good

[calm plinth]

wym

[neat musk]

they didnt include me, woulda costed too much

[calm plinth]

i’m js div 2 on pc and console have different cultures

[neat musk]

im that much of a star

[neat musk]

people basically say "for the culture" to refer to anything that makes no sense

[heady ivy]

Ur a random

[neat musk]

you just dont know, its fine.

[neat musk]

maybe im bias cuz of the car commmunity

people do random dumb shit and say "its the culture"

[neat musk]

yea. more poors on console

[heady ivy]

Blud plays a 8 year old game and thinks he’s somebody

[neat musk]

its alright if you arent aware. no need to be upset

[heady ivy]

Why r u even talking

[neat musk]

true, I usually dont speak for free. Most people have to pay to hear me speak so consider yourself lucky

[heady ivy]

Random

[neat musk]

only known as a random to randoms

[heady ivy]

Proof ur not a random

[neat musk]

one day youll understand and apologize to me

[heady ivy]

I don’t apologize over video games

[buoyant oracle]

Nah I don’t go in there too much usually just solo I’d just leave if it’s 4 man lol

[heady ivy]

U need a team

[neat musk]

I am walking proof

[heady ivy]

How

Ur talking crazy over console beef and ur in pc

[neat musk]

I am not in a PC.

I live in a home.

[heady ivy]

Bro ur weird u know what I meant

[neat musk]

I clearly did not given my response

[heady ivy]

Random language ig

[neat musk]

youd think given a player of your claimed status youd be able to infer, but clearly not

[heady ivy]

Bro who are u

[neat musk]

youll answer that yourself some day.

[craggy trench]

He doesn't gaf idk why you act like he cares

He likes messing with overly serious people

[neat musk]

ssssh im having fun

[heady ivy]

Can I farm all of u plz

[neat musk]

I am not a plant

[craggy trench]

Farm dez nuts

[heady ivy]

Most immature and unfunny thing I’ve seen in a while plz delete it

Making urself look like more of a clown

[calm plinth]

i heard odder 10-0d son in scramble

[neat musk]

thou shant challenge I man of my stature to a duel without the corresponding paper work

present me the prophecy

[calm plinth]

and his perfect companion piece was a yellow

[heady ivy]

Clip ?

[heady ivy]

Come to console and scramble

[neat musk]

I shall not cometh to console nor to hasten, lest thou dost provideth me the prophecy that declareth thy victory in the fray.

[heady ivy]

Formally Ducking

[neat musk]

"I will have you know odder is the greatest pound for pound div 2 player in the world"-Dana white

[heady ivy]

And will still get farmed by OVG

[craggy trench]

I literally don't care about anything you talked about in the last 50 messages

[heady ivy]

So shut up

Random

[amber ice]

@heady ivy @craggy trench Take it to another server.

[neat musk]

as my deputy Prodigy is immune to authority.

[heady ivy]

Cry

[amber ice]

Odder, you aren't even immune. I think we've proven that by now, yeah?

[neat musk]

sacrifices must be made in order to defeat the opposition. My deputy's are immune even If I am not. Recognize this or I will commence the mass stoning.

[amber ice]

Hey as long as it's legal in your state, I say go for it.

[neat musk]

the law is not my concern, I am what the youngins call a hoodlum

a real gangster

a trouble maker

[amber ice]

a meanie-pants.

[neat musk]

in fact I am in possession of a dual set of mobile devices wherein one is exclusively allocated for the procurement of Contraband substances while the other is dedicated to the meticulous management of pecuniary transactions moreover I possess an additional pair of mobile devices with one specifically designated for for engaging in communication with the female gender.

I get into bad things. dont mess with me

[boreal jewel]

Odder is one of them

[craggy trench]

I didn't say anything bad 🤷‍♂️

I stand on what I said

[tawdry pier]

.

[tawdry pier]

.