td2-descent

[humble halo]

yup

I crashed like 3 times in 15 minutes

few days ago

[abstract trail]

No secret. Here.... idc...

I always run shottie and smg. Leadership to the door for double bonus.

Red - surgical, critical, vigilance, versatile, gunslinger, allegro

Blue- leadership, clutch, adrenaline rush, perservation, insulated, entrench

Yellow - skilled, oppotunistic, trauma, vindictive, optimized, lucky shot

My entire build when crashed at loop 47

Exotic - bullet hell, lady death, plague

[humble halo]

ok thnx

you are on ps that is why you don't experience crashes

it's real bad on pc

people with i9 and 4090 crashes

[abstract trail]

Yeah if i crashed that much id stop playing the mode

Already hesitant to try a real session after 47 delta

[humble halo]

you get used to it

[abstract trail]

Just pretty much killing time by testing things

[humble halo]

after some time

[abstract trail]

Took 11 hours to reach 47. Id be pissed if crashes were as frequent as you say

[humble halo]

it's normal now pretty used to it

[abstract trail]

Thats called stockholm🤣

[humble halo]

sometime I just quit Playing the game for the day

[abstract trail]

But no i remember first year bluescreens were bad when raiding

[hidden idol]

I would probably have to quit midway if it took that long

[humble halo]

yup 11 hrs session continues is way too long Max I can do is 5-6 hrs

[hidden idol]

I would have to quit due to the fact that I don't have that much freetime without having to do small things in the meantime or sleep before going to work

[raven lagoon]

Highest I've gone is loop 17 and that was with using an afk macro to take breaks to walk dogs, stretch, grab food, etc.

[desert pond]

youre on ps, thats not an issue

rubber band on both sticks and boom, problem gone

[obtuse flint]

Maybe this is the time for me to build a twitch presence and sell them rubber bands™️

[desert pond]

lmao

[hidden idol]

If I were to play in a group*

Solo there is no problem

[desert pond]

yea groups would really suck

[candid mirage]

👀

Need 1 descent

[balmy finch]

go to the lfg channel for this

[wheat thistle]

So can we talk about the reward structure in Descent here or is that not allowed?

[abstract trail]

What about it?

[wheat thistle]

It's mainly about Named item blueprint drops and how grindy it is to get them.

[raven lagoon]

we know, all we can say is suggest an alternate to Ubi and see what they say. feedback from players to them stating it's too grindy shrug

but ya, it's a bit grindy, but also not made to be a fast completion thing (wanna drag it out for a bit)

[balmy finch]

It's supposed to be grindy lol

[ionic plover]

Wonder why they don't have a leaderboard for nemesis clears?

And there is a difference between grindy and not worth it. I have over 20 nemesis clears and have gotten 1 reconstructed cache. I know a guy who has around 50 clears and hasn't seen 1 yet. The mode is new and fun now, but not seeing anything from 50 clears doesn't scream, "Keep playing me!"

Especially when none of the blueprints are really worth it.

[raven lagoon]

just bad luck with rng

[storm abyss]

it is a bad roguelite, they need to admit that

just getting to nemesis will take fair amount of your time (not counting pc crashes)

[balmy finch]

Half an hour ain't that bad

[balmy finch]

The dz exclusive bps are enticing

[ionic plover]

I just want because I don't like showing missing blueprints - There is no content any of them are needed for. Maybe I hit a run of caches, but right now - only reason I play it is for the comms and the exotic pieces I get when I deconstruct.

I see people keep saying it is fun, but no one can say what is fun about it. I get it is new and there is comms, but after the new runs out and after the 12 comms are obtained, what will drive people to the mode?

[hidden idol]

tbh I'm a fan of experimenting things out, so the "fun" aspect most probably come from the experience of getting to use a lot of different things together, or just for the sake of actually getting to see the transformation from a pea shooter(start) to a killing machine (somewhere between loop 5-20, I think)

But if they don't add anything else to it (new talents or whatever), it will become just another activity

[balmy finch]

Blueprints aren't supposed to be required? None are? Lol

[ionic plover]

I don't even understand this reply. Part of the draw are the blueprints. If you have 100 nemesis clears and you only get 1 - who will still play it? Over 4k hours in and I still think the game is fun. 25 clears of descent and 1 blueprint - not fun enough after 12 weeks to keep playing. Again, the question is what will keep driving people to the mode, when the newness runs out and blueprints don't drop enough?

[balmy finch]

I don't think it was designed for infinite replayability

Nothing in this game is

[desert pond]

that only depends on your dedication

[wise granite]

aight i say uhhh....apparently there's a hidden patch for killing nemesucc on higher loops

same for completing certain amoiunts of loops

[rustic bough]

You get a patch whenever you kill Nemesis for the first time

And there are 4 tier-based patches; tier 4 for beating loop 10, tier 3 for beating loop 20 and so on

[wise granite]

you do? I've killed him 3 times already and only now I got the patch

[balmy finch]

No you don't

[desert pond]

im pretty sure loop 8 is the absolute max you can go without nemesis

[wise granite]

I got nemesis on loop 9

[desert pond]

and i kinda have a feeling you need some random boss rooms for that to happen

[desert pond]

that still sounds fair to me

but getting a patch for killing nemesis at higher floors when the absolute maximum is probably around 11?

i dunno man

[wise granite]

Yeah. Had to stretch it out as much as possible because preservation just wasnt showing up

[desert pond]

lmfao

[wise granite]

Like. No preservation? No nemesucc

[desert pond]

that is a pain indeed

but then again, preservation is beyond useless on nemesis

[wise granite]

Not really. If he hacks your skills, it still counts as a "kill"

[desert pond]

wait wot

[wise granite]

Pair it with clutch and you can regen most of your armor

[wise granite]

Preservation always procs, even for proxy kills like drones and stuff

Works on normal game too

[desert pond]

im ngl i usually just rush his ass with a shotty and trauma

so ion really see those details lmao

thanks for the info tho

[wise granite]

Np

[desert pond]

im really tempted to do a skill run

just get preservation and leadership and dump the rest into skills

could be interesting with drone/sting hive

if any of yall crazy people tried this out already let me know the strats before i start to bang my head against the wall lol

[obtuse flint]

I mean what are the rules? Can you still get reds or do you have to kill nemesis with only skill damage?

[twin geyser]

all skills are against you in Nemesis fight, aren't they?

[obtuse flint]

I’m thinking non-hackables like explosive sticky

Plus, if you CC before skill deploy, they can’t hack 💪🏾

But I bet if you played with the sniper turret you could do it too. Deploy, one snipe, pick up, cover to cover, and repeat

[twin geyser]

nemesis loves healing( Once I got a fight and he healed himself 5 times 💀

[obtuse flint]

Hmm that’s true

Well I suppose for the challenge of it you gotta do it. This is why I just special ammo 😂 I’m not trying to have the fight to even be longer than 1 minute

[humble halo]

except foam and reviver hive

[twin geyser]

imagine reviver turns stinger and downs you 👌 🙂 🔪

[humble halo]

yeah would be funny lmao😂 😂

[humble halo]

or even worse if the reviever hive became downer hive that down agent when in proximity of nemisis 💀 💀 alongside your group 1 charge. = 1 agent downed

[desert pond]

nah i think you got me wrong

after nemesis just go full yellow skills

and ofc you can take red cored or whatever, the point is seeing how far skills can carry you if you build around them

because i can already smell the turtling with a sniper turret and stinger hive lmfao

surely thatd tickle your fancy

[twin geyser]

I see myself using overwatch from red skills to boost skill damage, but nothing else comes to my mind yet

[cyan fox]

Sniper turret did some good damage for me once

You could probably go with a turret and drone

[wheat thistle]

Dont even bother. All you will get is people defending it because they think everyone has all the time in the world to grind a single game mode for potentially literal weeks or even months to get what we want out of it. I love it when people in a LOOTER SHOOTER say the loot doesn't matter, especially in this case as it's blueprints for all the named items in the game.

It takes on average about 40-45 min to reach Nemesis for 12% chance drop, which is a pathetic drop %. But nevermind that. To get higher chance you MUST reach loop 31 and higher, only then you have 49% each loop boss to drop a blueprint. Lmao it takes well over 4 hours to reach loop 31 and we only get 49% only. This mode's reward structure would be considered bad and unfair even in F2P games.

Now imagine you've reached loop 30 and half way through it BAM game crash...no checkpoint, no save state, nothing. 4 hours (half a day if you work full time job) down the drain.

How is that supposed to be fun and rewarding? How about just make all named blueprints have 10% drop chance from heroic control points? Much more fun on repeat plays and a game crash would only cost us tge few minutes we lost taking over the CP4.

If you have all time to play and grind for rewards, don't assume everyone else does and tell them it's totally fine.

[pine siren]

I dunno, personally I've made it this far without those blueprints and enjoyed the game, so I guess I'll continue to enjoy the game without them as time goes on.

[desert pond]

you know whats even funnier?

that 12% dropchance is just for the crate

and a crate might not contain a blueprint at all

[wheat thistle]

I honestly didn't even think about the reconstructed cache being also RNG based to either have a blueprint in it or not...I know for a fact I've done every weekly Descent project on 3 agents I have and so far my bench has been at a static 377 blueprints from before Descent release.

So yeah this looks even worse when accounting for RNG on top of RNG. Dear god this reminds me of a space ninja looter shooter and its relic system with its prime version of its existing normal models.

[desert pond]

i think ive gotten like 5 ish crates so far (in around 50h of runs)

and got nothing but named items

not even bps

but then again, i wasnt speedrunning nemesis nor did i go above 30

[wheat thistle]

So you just got named items, not their blueprints? My understanding was that we will be getting the actual blueprints for the missing named gear/weapons in our crafting bench.

[timid mauve]

Couple of mine are gears too, I just enjoy the game mode so won't complain about it.

[wheat thistle]

Good for you

[twin geyser]

Sometimes it's named item + random named blueprint or just named item 💀

[wheat thistle]

You know what, despite the my BIG issue about the drop % for reconstructed caches, I was still somewhat willing to grind it out eventually, but man RNG on top of RNG is just too tiring. I really want some of those named items like The Setup, Kingbreaker and that one with perfect headhunter and White Death, but I guess I'm not gonna get them.

[twin geyser]

I'm totally with you on this point. Why not CP 3-4 as usual? Or at least a GUARANTEED BP after beating nemesis

[wheat thistle]

I'd be totally fine if they made it 51% drop chance for the reconstructed cache but make it 100% for a random blueprint inside the cache once you get it.

Obviously from Nemesis, because no way in hell am I sitting down for 4+ hours to reach Loop 31 for a mere 49% chance for a cache that may or may NOT contain a blueprint. I don't have that kind of free time anymore once I start my 2-year IT course starting next week.

[slim rain]

Anyone want to run the descent?

[abstract trail]

How much time do you have? Amd long do you plan to run?

[storm abyss]

When people talk about the time required to play a roguelite, you know it will not catch on.

Gogogo vampire survivers

[abstract trail]

I love the mode. Just hate the fact of going long and getting a delta

[slim rain]

I’m on now mate I dont mind running a long run

[raven lagoon]

just keep going until you die \o/

[abstract trail]

What's long to you? 🤣

[slim rain]

I’m in til 4pm uk time

[storm abyss]

Long run, provided you don't mind going for coffee break now and then...and if the game is crash resilient...

[abstract trail]

What's that 2 hours?

[humble halo]

no problem for ps players

[abstract trail]

Yeah. I just turn controller upside down to take breaks.

[humble halo]

lmao🤣

[balmy finch]

It doesn't tell you what BP you get you just have to check the table

[abstract trail]

Are all the named BP in the loot pool?

[balmy finch]

No

Only backpacks/chests/guns

[abstract trail]

Wtf. Are they only in descent?

[balmy finch]

Wait my bad

Also all legacy season blueprints

[balmy finch]

There's a select pool for descent

[abstract trail]

I just want the liquid engineer.

[balmy finch]

Yes that is in the descent BP pool

[abstract trail]

No i meant eveeyday carrier

Sorry

[balmy finch]

Idk if that one is or not but I think so

[abstract trail]

Bellstone chest... hmmm

[raven lagoon]

it's in there

[abstract trail]

Ugh... another grind. Are they not in CPs?

[raven lagoon]

pretty sure the BPs from descent are their own pool, and not shared with any other source. shrug

there's 29 blueprints from what I can tell

[abstract trail]

And theyre not guaranteed though? Lol

[raven lagoon]

that I can't confirm or deny, every reconst caches I've gotten has given me a blueprint

though some folks have said they have not gotten a blueprint from them before (but since it wasn't my experience, cannot comment accurately)

[balmy finch]

The caches aren't guaranteed but the bps in them are

[balmy finch]

They say that cuz they don't actually go and check the table

[raven lagoon]

that's what I figured, but didn't wanna say anything, lol

[abstract trail]

Welp.... loop 50 here i come....

[raven lagoon]

eh, just keep recycling nemesis runs

[abstract trail]

Oh. Is the nemesis best chance?

[raven lagoon]

no, not best chance, just fastest

12% chance on nem clears. on loop 31+ it's a 49% chance for each completed loop....

but you gotta get there first....and if u die, ur back to square one....

[abstract trail]

I just need an excuse to go for a long run🤣🤣🤣

Havent really tried since the delta at 47

[raven lagoon]

nothing wrong with that, just didn't want to get your hopes up is all.

[abstract trail]

👍🏽

[cyan fox]

When they buff the chances of getting these reconstructed caches and actual BPS come out of them I'll touch descent again

I'm not doing a long ass run just to get pissed off I didn't get one at the end of it all

[raven lagoon]

that's why I'm just accepting it's a long grind like expertise and just doing nem runs.

[balmy finch]

I hope they don't buff it

[cyan fox]

Maybe ill just do solo nemesis runs all easy rooms every week for the comms

[balmy finch]

That's what I do

[cyan fox]

Once a week then only touch it again next week

Also can't even get the apparel event done playing descent rn as it doesn't drop event caches

[balmy finch]

I do it more often for the caches

[raven lagoon]

supposedly they addressed that descent not giving keys is an unintended bug. shrug not sure if they'll fix it soon or leave it but eh....

but since I don't have a twitter account, can't confirm and the person didn't post a screenshot of the tweet....

[cyan fox]

It's in their Trello I saw the notification
Maybe next Tuesday

[raven lagoon]

awesome, thanks for clarification. someone said Morten posted it but hadn't checked trello yet

[balmy finch]

It has been added to trello

[raven lagoon]

I'm still waiting for them to fix the double icons in castle for crafting table, stash, and recal table....lol. cause once I saw that I can't unsee it and now it bothers me. hahaha

[young raven]

For me descent is giving the keys. Last tuesday did Descent and gave me 5 keys.

[humble halo]

really?

[raven lagoon]

well, that was last tuesday....unless you mean 2 days ago (after update) and event keys, not just regular apparel keys.

cause descent still grants regular apparel keys and levels, just not the event keys, afaik (haven't done descent since the event started)

[balmy finch]

Apparel event keys not regular apparel keys lol

[ionic plover]

I suggested a BP for Nemesis clear, but was told shouldn't be that easy

[balmy finch]

it shouldnt lol

[twin geyser]

This is mobile casino lvl of randomness and it's not a compliment at all

[obtuse flint]

I’m gonna check again now that I am playing descent again but I’m pretty sure a blueprint is not guaranteed when you get a cache. My last run I got two, checked table and had no exclamation points

And I just went through my crafting table multiple times and I have no blueprints for any DZ exclusives and I’ve opened 6-8 of those caches

[wheat thistle]

Now, It's not that I wish anyone to miss blueprints, but I sure damn hope everyone RARELY gets a blueprint and they start giving their frustration a voice to get the attention of whoever deiced RNG for getting a cache and then ANOTHER RNG on top to either get blueprint or not. This is just absolutely a waste of time for those who are looking to complete their crafting bench blueprints.

This IS a LOOTER SHOOTER, after all. It only makes sense that majority will be wanting to get rewarded for their time, and the way the rewards are structured right now, it's a complete waste of time.

I'm missing 18 blueprints myself. Now account for the 12% chance from Nemesis to drop reconstructed cache, then only 15% of that cache to contain a blueprint and you see how low the chances are of getting a blueprint.

[raven lagoon]

that's some bad rng there

so far I've gotten a blueprint from every cache earned (roughly 5 so far)

[wheat thistle]

What's even more frustrating, is that you will find more than enough people actually defending these abysmal drop rates.

[humble halo]

haven't even gotten one my rng is always bad

[desert pond]

the rng is pretty decent above 30 but it just so happens that it'll probably take 6h to reach lmfao

[north turtle]

Is there a known bug with talking to Wally?
Cause I went "oooh, descent" dived in. Then did the project and tried taking to her

[obtuse flint]

I’m not too salty about it since I already have every gun and gear piece (except for murakami knees) with the stats that I want. But yeah, I don’t actually think it’s a guaranteed blueprint OR my game is broke 😂

[untold surge]

i believe Exotic caches added to Descent Vendor (like those from Countdown) would be nice to have for everyone to farm, for now the named blueprints keep some people going but afterwards the mode isn't that much worth playing (i know myself after getting all those blueprints that will never touch the mode ever again)

[twin geyser]

There are 3 things, keeping me playing:

• Blueprints
• Loop 40 Tier 1 Arm Patch
• Hope, that devs will actually improve this gamemode, not leaving it abandoned (Kenly College 💀 )

[humble halo]

never did it and don't know why it exists

[twin geyser]

Diamondback. I not only did it, but I got GOLD medal in every location on EVERY difficulty 🥳

[humble halo]

someone dropped it for me so never bothered

[raven lagoon]

next season they'll put blueprints behind Kenly Mastery challenges.... 🤣

[twin geyser]

Stoip giving them ideas 🔫 👀

[raven lagoon]

🫠 lol

[pine siren]

I finally gave in and did the kenly mastery challenges last week (just on Challenging, couldn't be bothered with the lower difficulties) just to clear them from my Progression tab - really wasn't too bad once you learn the routes, none took more than 2 attempts to get gold

[raven lagoon]

I still haven't done all of mine yet

[grizzled briar]

is there gonna be a use of NSA credit? or ..

[twilit whale]

nothing atm

[raven lagoon]

shrug nobody knows if there will be anything else after the current upgrades are all bought. maybe they'll chime in on that issue soon enough

[grizzled briar]

if they add something to descent shop like countdown vender, or add BP cache with high price or something can be good

[raven lagoon]

yup, even at a high price it still makes use of the credits that'd otherwise go unused so that'd be fine for sure

[wheat thistle]

So only now do I notice they didn't even have the decency to put reconstructed caches in the WEEKLY projects. Just at least guarantee 1 per week.

If they won't change the currently very bad drop % for caches and blueprints, at least make caches drop with weekly project and have it 100% have a named blueprint in it. That would still take me 4 months and 3 weeks, but at least I'd be making some progress slowly.

I just did weekly project on 3 agents and not a single reconstructed cache.

[desert pond]

i just got a notification in descent

"sorry for the experience with descent, heres some gifts in stash for you"

and i got a single weapon crafting crate

[raven lagoon]

lol

[twilit whale]

If we get nemesis kill every 5 loops (you can get nemesis at loop 4 with easy rooms always available all the time but it's quite rare in my experience) at around 40 minutes each run, 12% drop rate means 5-6 hours/blueprint excluding failed runs

[upper smelt]

The earliest you can reach the nemesis is at the end of 5. There's 4 rooms per level, so all east rooms by the end of 4 puts you at (6% x 16) 96%

[raven lagoon]

I mean, it's a higher drop rate than EB still. 🫠

[twilit whale]

the area gives you 1% each

so perfect run = 4 loops

arena*

[upper smelt]

The boss rooms/arenas don't give you any progress

[twilit whale]

I think I misremembered then

[abstract trail]

They need to change the leaderboard to "who had the most consecutive time to play"...Im certain I could make to loop 100. Just not about sit there for 30 hours. And the drop rate is too low...

Ugh

[obtuse flint]

Mood. I said that when I hit the leaderboard and it really was just the game of who can keep playing the longest 😂

[desert pond]

them 14 year olds on speing break have an unfair advantage

[obtuse flint]

Adulthood with no real responsibilities is even better. Don’t have worry about parents getting mad about not doing chores or having a shower lol

[ionic plover]

I would like to see how many nemesis clears people have...you get a comm and an exotic cache for the first clear per character in a week...if there are only 1000 people clearing it weekly - is dropping a reconstructed cache that easy?

The Descent Vendor would be a good touch as well - unlock the upgrades and then you can use the credits to buy different caches

[desert pond]

or let us buy permanent miniscule buffs

adds x% damage/armor

adds x% damage/armor

[ionic plover]

Only issue I see with that would be making lower loops and nemesis too easy - I think that would be good to have at the end of loops or supply stations after nemesis - plus it would maybe help speed up the higher loops

[storm abyss]

they are gatekeeping the loop, kinda dangling the carrot behind spikes. these days nobody will run up the no man land's with spikes all over the place with just 'promises', unless they can 'ease' it with $$$.

reminds me of Kelso and the "Masochist" comparison

[wise granite]

you can, technically. basically anything that isnt base stats

so....pretty much the same

[pastel kiln]

Is descent still bugged and not giving event keys?

[raven lagoon]

yes, known issue tho, they're investigating supposedly

[pastel kiln]

Hopefully it's at least fixed before the event is over. :,^)

[silver junco]

yeah they will fix it in 2024

[wheat thistle]

That's assuming we even get a blueprint in the reconstructed cache in the first place lmao.

[storm abyss]

That's assuming you don't crash

[timid mauve]

I had more than 1 time that enemy spawn at door and turn invisible in couple seconds, they can shoot me but I can't shoot back coz they had no hit box, is anyone else have same experience?

[grizzled briar]

try nade

i had same thing

[peak tinsel]

Twice today I reached Nemesis, once in group of 2 once 3, both times we got a message 'Wait for everyone to enter 0.7 km' and Nemesis wouldn't spawn? Is this a known issue? Has it happened to anyone else? Both times we entered form the same arena which doesn't register that all players are in the room.

[raven lagoon]

so according to some folks who did some digging (but not too deep) it is a 100% chance to receive a blueprint from a reconst cache....BUT, they can't confirm if there's a "dupe prevention" situation or not where the cache wont try to award you a dupe blueprint and thus you get a big ol goose egg in return if it's trying to give you one you already have.

[grizzled briar]

is it like they add something and they dont know what they did ?or they just want us to understand in hard way?

[raven lagoon]

i'd be more inclined with the first part honestly. they may not know they didn't add a dupe prevention (if that is indeed the case, cannot confirm that's it's not just bugging out, only they know honestly)

[desert pond]

Nah they probably dont know either lmao

[quartz zodiac]

Has a "general" consesus been made on whether or not it's better to do Descent solo or with a group?

basically left the mode alone since it's launch

[quartz zodiac]

WHAT. That was my whole point to even playing Descent this week...

[hidden idol]

group is more fun (preferably with friends or clanmates, randoms seems to be a 90% chance of horrible).
Solo is easier (lower hp for enemies and it takes longer to get more waves), but boring

Atleast this is my conclusion from what I saw.
Group is easier in the long-term, I think, since there is more people for mobs do divert attention

[quartz zodiac]

Which is considered more efficient to beat the Nemesis?

[hidden idol]

Solo seems to be better, since it is the same amount of players

So 4 players = 4 nems

[quartz zodiac]

Hmm, ok. Thanks!

[grizzled briar]

for me not much point to play this mode when i have everything i need

[wheat thistle]

So today i hot extremely lucky and got my very first reconstructed csche, which dropped "door kicker" gear and i checked my bench and saw that i got a Sacrifice blueprint.

If i ever get lucky again with a cache, ill get back here to tell if i got another blueprint or not

[terse cairn]

You don’t get notified of the blueprint you receive. I got a new reliable out of my constructed cache and when I checked my crafting table I had a dark winter blueprint. I’m pretty sure you only can get guns, chest, and backpack blueprints. Which means no hollow man or emporers guard knee pads.

[grizzled briar]

i got glory daze and everyday carrier , i killed nemi like more than 30 time

[ionic plover]

Yep happened to my brother and I the other day

[mighty tartan]

Do disconnects and crashes still reset your run?

[humble halo]

yup throw you out of the run

deltas crashes🥲

[frank zephyr]

Ive never done descent, do u think its possible to reach nemesis or nah

[humble halo]

yup it is possible

[raven lagoon]

ofcourse

[balmy finch]

Takes 45 min at most on solo

[upper smelt]

Don't underestimate how slow people can be lol

[humble halo]

don't underestimate game can dump you like your gf does 👀 with deltas and crashes 👀

[balmy finch]

i coulda said 30

[balmy finch]

Glass Cannon
Adaptive Instinct
Sandman

bruh

[raven lagoon]

oof

[obtuse flint]

return to DC

[balmy finch]

im hoping to nail down what skills nemesis copies

i have this so far

Blinder > Blinder
Oxidizer > Oxidizer
Riot Foam > Riot Foam
Reviver > Restorer
Restorer > Restorer
Crusader > Sniper

i think they might one-to-one firestarter as well but cant confirm

[obtuse flint]

Decoy > Decoy

Also I’m 90% sure they do. When I’ve run with randoms with fire starter, they have deployed a firestarter on us

[balmy finch]

some dumbass picked hard mode then left 💀

[humble halo]

lmao wish of you heal them for x amount they heal you for 10x amount💀

lile the dmg you do

[balmy finch]

Blinder > Blinder
Oxidizer > Oxidizer
Riot Foam > Riot Foam
Reviver > Restorer
Restorer > Restorer
Crusader > Sniper
Firestarter > Firestarter
Decoy > Decoy

[obtuse flint]

To go for a long run or not to go for a long run 🤔

[raven lagoon]

go slap a muscular mfer and their reaction will answer the question if you should go for a long run or not

no jk, srsly tho....go for it....loop 60! \o/

get your bucket ready and go until the game decides to kick you

[mighty tartan]

What’s the reason to go past nemesis

Just ranking?

[raven lagoon]

ranking, higher chance at reconstruction caches after loop 30 (lol, don't do it for this reason) and that's about it

pretty much just personal challenge to see how far you can go

[desert pond]

its really not

[raven lagoon]

and there's the few arm patches you can get if u really care about those, after loop 10, 20, 30, and 40

[desert pond]

its just a "who has the most time and luck" challenge

[raven lagoon]

but the patches are pretty ugly so...nah

[obtuse flint]

I worry tho that if I get that L40 patch, I’m probably permanently done with the division.

[desert pond]

lmfao

[raven lagoon]

i can believe it, that's a long run, lol

I did a run over the weekend (took a few breaks between loops) but it was only to loop 17 or so and even after that I was like nope, need a long break, Im done.

[twin geyser]

We'll try again this Sunday (duo group) to reach loop 40. Last time we got rekt at loop 35 💀

[obtuse flint]

💪🏾 35 gang

I tried a duo nemesis run and really liked it. I think Duo might really be the best way to move ahead because of the extra door coverage with limited scaling issues

[mighty tartan]

What are reconstruction caches

[rustic bough]

I made it to loop 31 for the first time last night. It is like what you said - enemies hit really hard

[twin geyser]

What was the purpose of mine to lie about damn stupid enemy dmg?)
I need a new anti-flammable armchair, cuz this one is done for sure 🔥

[rustic bough]

It's just I take stuff with a grain of salt when someone says "it's hard"
It had to be a BT loop. Dogs everywhere, drones everywhere, and then I'm dead

[twin geyser]

Dogs aren't that scary as elite grenade launchers. 0.01 sec preparation, then insanely accurate and super fast nade and you're left with 0.1 HP, and it's only his first shot from three 💀

[raven lagoon]

Cache from descent that contains a named item and a named blueprint

[twin geyser]

Named item and a chance for a named blueprint 👍

[raven lagoon]

100% chance for blueprint, uncomfirmed if dupe protection exists or overlooked.

If overlooked then I could understand folks saying they didn't get a bp.

[mighty tartan]

Named blueprint from the entire named loot pool in the game that includes DZ gear?

[raven lagoon]

It's a smallish pool of like 27? 29? Blueprints. And some are dz exclusive, yes.

[mighty tartan]

Goody

[balmy finch]

its only weapons/chests/backpacks tho

6,206 nsa tech i cant spend

[balmy finch]

my luck today has been abysmal

[grim narwhal]

anyone figure out what happens if you miss a collectible from the weekly? can you no longer get it?

[balmy finch]

i doubt it

[indigo lichen]

am i cant recieve apparel cache after descent? I got 11 level in my last run, and 0 cache. When i level up 1 more in open world, game said need 2 more level for the cache..

[balmy finch]

You don't get them from descent

[indigo lichen]

oh.. sad, but ty. i did not know this

[twin geyser]

But it's on their trello board 👀

[humble halo]

more like troll board👀

[twin geyser]

200% agree. Where is their incapable fix for Summit Combat Merit Commendation?

2.5 years of "investigating" with no result

[humble halo]

don't forget the skin issues with gear from will not be fixed to later 💀

[twin geyser]

• apparel event backpack skins
• impossible to equip because of the bug
  💀💀💀

[humble halo]

i got deltad while logging into game 💀 💀

[cyan fox]

I have the dunne BP on all my loadouts now so it doesn't matter

[untold elm]

the point is once u crash, u f..., once ur power outage, u f..., spend 6+ hours to reach loop 31. low% to get what you want. So What the point?

[balmy finch]

Doesn't change that they don't drop

[twin geyser]

Fact, but it should

[cyan fox]

I hate to spoil ur hopes but that says its only coming in tu19 💀💀
So next season

[humble halo]

Lmao Troll Board 💀 💀

[twin geyser]

already farmed apparel event, so ... 🙂

[humble halo]

80 lvls to go

[cyan fox]

I only have 3 pieces to go

Doing 4 keys a day

[twin geyser]

Glad to see that gangs are happy to execute hostages 24/7 in DC 💀

[humble halo]

yeah i let one hostage to die 💀

[twin geyser]

so you shouldn't talk to another one. Smart

[humble halo]

feels like they both should die 💀 but i show one mercy

for the xp

[pine siren]

assuming you're referring to the descent comms: you earn them in order up to the current week, so if you haven't beaten nemesis yet you could run 4 times now and you'd get the first 4 comms

[grim anchor]

anyone here knows how the nemesis is determined? because my first run, i pretty much only chose med/easy to be quicker (time wise) and i deleted that nemesis because he basically only used a sniper turret. however, when i wanted to kill him again the next week, he had a healer hive, sniper turret, a drone and blinding firefly and was popping armour kits like it's candy..

I was told by some guy who ran descent a lot that it copies YOUR skills, but i don't think thats necessarily the case, right? since i didnt have any healing skills or a sniper turret etc.

[hexed dome]

Some skills are the same, as are just the same type of skill but a different mod

So, say you have a heal hive, he'll have a stinger

And some skills have a random other skill as its pair

Someone here made a list of what he copies

[half quiver]

Is there a list of meta stuff in the descent?

[untold surge]

anyone know a fast method to farm reconstructed caches?

beside Nemesis runs and go as much as u can

[raven lagoon]

those are the only two ways shrug

[ionic plover]

Damn - Loop 31 - 6.5 hours - probably never going to try for 40 unless they implement some weekly checkpoint or something

[snow holly]

is the Descent game mode even worth it? What do I get from nemesis kills?

[shrewd flame]

lore

plus xp and caches

[mighty tartan]

What’s at 40

[balmy finch]

The last descent patch

[mighty tartan]

What’s there? New content?

[teal crag]

Is Nemesis doable if you go hard stages only?

I got my ass beaten with a medium/easy run

[half quiver]

Is there a list of meta stuff in the descent?

[mighty tartan]

Yeah I just want to get to the first nemesis as easy as possible too

12 times

[pine siren]

nah, the nemesis scales with you so if anything they're easier if you just stick to easy rooms and get them at the end of loop 5

they're a tough enemy regardless though and you need to play carefully when fighting them, staying out of cover a second too long will get you killed

[ionic plover]

Yeah - some do the harder rooms early to make more loops before getting to nemesis - gives you more currency to upgrade - we usually try and get there the fastest though

[teal crag]

I died within 5 secs during easy/medium only

[pine siren]

playstyle issue

doing hard won't help that

[teal crag]

I was cornered tbh

and I couldn't see crap lol

[pine siren]

focus on movement and cover first and foremost, once you've got the hang of staying safe then you can find good openings to wear them down (eg when they're moving, or if you've got some kind of CC like trauma or foam)

they can kill you in 5 seconds regardless of your choices up to that point so play smart

[half quiver]

taking that as a no

[pine siren]

there's a variety of approaches so you have to find the one that suits the drops you get

eg chatterbox works great with large-mag lmgs while breathe free works best with slow-firing weapons like shotguns

[half quiver]

gotcha

is there possibly a list of stuff to avoid?

[twin geyser]

there is a google doc spreadsheet with all descent talents, you can take a look and decide for yourself what is good and what is not 🙂

[half quiver]

guessing the SS in #td2-build-advice?

[mighty tartan]

Are the talents and exotic abilities values different from the normal ones from the main game?

[twin geyser]

Yes, because you can stack them 10 times to inscrease their effectiveness and slap 3 exotic talents at the same time. But the main principle, how talents work is the same

[mighty tartan]

Ok that’s fine

[mighty tartan]

I can still transfer some gameplay experience from the main game to this mode then

[ionic plover]

For those who have hit loop 31 and higher - maybe it was bad luck, but felt like difficulty made a big jump - 300% armor and 100% WD and got smoked - should I have went more of one than the other?

[fiery marsh]

I used to stack full armor, highest was 360%, but on both my 40 runs I just stacked to 195% and put the rest towards WD. After 30, pretty much anything will 1 or 2 shot you. Better off not getting hit or use bonus armor as a buffer.

[twilit whale]

Like Kettle said, trauma (blind) and foam are good options. At tier 3 foam, I soloed 2 nemesis after my buddy went down. A pistol loaded with shock or burn ammo is also good (shoot with pistol then swithc to main damage gun). Plague of the outcast also make most nemesis fight trivial (shoot to get stack then switch to pistol). Entrench is also pretty good as you can heal with nemesis headshot if medkit is limited.

[balmy finch]

Oxidizer and thats kind of it

[ionic plover]

You sir, should get 2 patches for doing it twice

[half quiver]

is there a way to skip the end screen?

i prefer not having to wait 20 seconds to jump back in

[fiery marsh]

Did it once as a solo and then another as a 3 man. We did it for the patches really.

[balmy finch]

In a group no

[half quiver]

thankfully im solo

[balmy finch]

Solo there's no timer

Wait

Which end screen are you referring to

[mighty tartan]

How long did it take you to get to loop 40

[balmy finch]

My longest run was 33 and took uh

Shit who did I run with

Whatever it was something around 6:30-7

[mighty tartan]

Oh only 30 minutes

[half quiver]

for stats

• the start

[balmy finch]

33 loops

And it took 6 and a half to seven hours

[mighty tartan]

Oh oops

[balmy finch]

Like the one after nemesis or the one on wipes

[half quiver]

wipes

if i was killing nem, i wouldnt care about the screen

if i can skip the intro, that'll be enough for me

[balmy finch]

Yeah wipe ain't skippable in group

[half quiver]

is the intro skippable for start a run?

for solo

im fully solo

[balmy finch]

No

[half quiver]

shit

[wheat thistle]

So I just got my 2nd ever reconstructed cache and it also gave me a named blueprint. The cache drop was Glory Daze assault rifle, but the blueprint was CARNAGE LMG.

So far 2/2 have given me blueprints. Can anyone else confirm if they've always gotten a blueprint out of reconstructed cache?

[fiery marsh]

4/4 so far for me and I’ve heard the same from friends I play with.

[wheat thistle]

So it seems that 15% was not for blueprint drop chance, it's just for typical proficiency caches.

Good to know whenever I get a cache every year or so, I'd at least have a guaranteed blueprint. But man out of like 30 Nemesis runs = 2 blueprints is just a huge pain

That's 11 hours and 15 minutes on average for 1 blueprint to drop, considering each run takes an average of 45 minutes. Still a big pain.

Would love it if they up the % to 25% or even 35% for Nemesis, and 25% starting at Loop 15, instead of 49% starting Loop 31.

[fiery marsh]

Yeah, the odds ain’t good. I wouldn’t mind if the higher loops had more chances of them dropping. In its current state, nemesis farms are the best way.

[half quiver]

what should i upgrade first with boss coins?

[half quiver]

fml, i was at 98% then 4 suicide bombers rushed me

[wheat vortex]

Does anyone else try and build your ideal descent build around like a level 30 style build curious to know

When selecting talents and what core balance to use

[raven lagoon]

all red! \o/

[desert pond]

all the damage perks

but tbh it doesnt matter all that much since all the buffs are rather miniscule

the currency one is really good early on but is absolutely worthless at higher loops

[pine siren]

Extra talent choice is very useful early on

[ionic plover]

The time sink for the rewards is junk

[gloomy pulsar]

Debate; which marksman rifle is the best in Descent?

Personally I'm liking the m44 and the srs

[keen jungle]

Anybody good at descent on ps5 need 2

[grim narwhal]

@pine siren and I'm guessing its not time limited as it doesn't make sense to get rid of a weekly project no?

[rustic bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1117648821137190995/1127464250630217748/image.png
great game

really, really, really polished game mode with totally no bugs at all.

[humble halo]

lmao

[stiff rain]

💀

[pine siren]

I'm not sure what you're referring to. All descent nsa tech purchases are permanent.

[rotund pagoda]

M44>M700>SRS

[grim narwhal]

descent comms, im pretty busy atm but wanna get them all so im just hoping they wont be locked eventually

[hoary laurel]

Can someone explain this thing to me
I understand the rooms and such but what are the rewards

[desert pond]

a fun time is the reward

[timid mauve]

Weekly project / some armbands / gears including exotic / materials / named blueprint, and yeah, the fun time

[twin geyser]

So there is none, eh?

[hoary laurel]

Is it a good way to get memento?

[near schooner]

if you mean memento the backpack exotic I’d just run countdown on backpack targeted loot and buy exotic caches from the CD vendor

[hoary laurel]

I c thanks

[near schooner]

np

[humble halo]

if the game let's you have fun without crash and delta than sure 💀

[timid mauve]

@hoary laurel Defeat nemesis would grants you exotic cache, considered countdown always bugged & no global event undertaking recently, 45-60 min work per 1 exotic actually quite efficient for farming, getting memento still rely on RNG though.

[cedar topaz]

Why do people say to do heroic rooms for having a better chance at defeating nemesis?

[upper smelt]

It takes longer to get there so you'll have more time to build up talents.

[pine siren]

More money for shop bonuses too. However, most people who farm nemesis go the other way now: stick to easy rooms and you'll reach him faster (end of loop 5) and that doesn't seem to have a major effect on the difficulty of beating him

[rotund pagoda]

Exaclty what @upper smelt said...BUT....
Better going for red and Easy rooms than hard.
Red and Easy rooms for me made the trick Always. Solo,2 3 4 stacks.

Then Just pesti + Fire/High velocity ammos and get ready to cheese the Nemesis

30/40 minutes a run. Smooth

[twin geyser]

We did it. Loop 40 - 5 hours and a half. Duo

[desert pond]

congrats

did you kill the run or keep going for the last time?

[twin geyser]

We stopped and left from loop 41 lobby

That was mentally tiring as hell. All we wanted, was the armpatch. We got it. Now I'm not touching it besides weekly comm from Nemesis (6/12)

[humble halo]

real agents the pride of DC 💀

[timid mauve]

Tier 1️⃣agent

[uncut gate]

Care to share talents combo/comp, which made you both reach 40th loop? Congratz agent and peace! 💪

[cedar topaz]

Why don't level ups obtained from descent help with the apparel event?

[raven lagoon]

because ubi (srsly tho, bug, they know about it, nothing we can do for now)

just gotta wait til they fix it which is scheduled for TU19 according to trello

[twin geyser]

DM and I'll share there)

[ionic plover]

Congrats!!!

[kind bone]

I need a good talent and gun load out for descent for killing the nemesis made it to loop 10 but couldn't kill him😭😭

[balmy finch]

dont go all hard rooms

[kind bone]

I don't I did easy all the way

[balmy finch]

then you should meet nemesis at loop 5

[kind bone]

Welp that didn't happen

[balmy finch]

then you didnt pick all easy

[kind bone]

Dang maybe I didn't 😅

Lol

That would be sad

[balmy finch]

if you pick all easy youll be there by loop 5

if it was literally all easy, rather than the easiest it gives you, itll be loop 4 (which i dont think is possible)

[kind bone]

Fr welp that helps now all I need is good skills and guns let's hope I have good luck 🤣

[half quiver]

wah

oh wait, this isnt build adivice

[kind bone]

Ik need was joking 🤣🤣🤣

I was joking**

[tired lotus]

anyone trying to do descent, it would be my first time doing it.

[mighty python]

Does anyone know what blueprints are giving as rewards in Descent? Do you have a diagram of named weapons and equipment from the Dark Zone or just the open world?

[balmy finch]

There's no chart of what's given but all the names weapons and stuff are in the spreadsheet

[mighty python]

what sheet would that be? I haven't seen this yet, I only found out about this drop from the blueprints because my clan's people commented during a game...

[balmy finch]

pinned in #td2-build-advice

[blazing turtle]

In descent with 2 people and the doors closed on my friend and I can’t start

Is this a soft lock??

[timid mauve]

6 blueprints so far including matador.

[balmy finch]

yes

[blazing turtle]

Shit game

[balmy finch]

then dont play it

[blazing turtle]

It won’t even let me play it

[balmy finch]

i can assure you the softlock did not prevent you from playing the entire game from here on out

[blazing turtle]

Yeah not the entire game thankfully. Just the bit of it that I’ve been spending 3+ hours on.

[balmy finch]

at least youre not getting locked out of any items

[blazing turtle]

Yeah I’m not even looking for anything

Min maxed with this build at the moment

After I got that 6% CC mod. Great moment for me. Great game.

[mighty python]

I didn't find it, but thanks anyway

[mighty python]

Too good then, I wanted to see the Law Agent blueprint that was a pre-order bonus and almost nobody has it, and it doesn't drop anywhere currently (well, at least not that I know of)

[odd nexus]

Likely won't ever be added into general loot

[twin geyser]

What is the Law Agent blueprint? I pre-ordered the game, but don't remember what is it)

[summer dune]

How do I get the Descent arm badge? We completed the Descent quest, but I didn't get it. What else do I need to do? Bug?

[rustic bough]

What loop did you reach?

[rustic bough]

Enforcer. Most likely lost in translation

[twin geyser]

Oh, yeah I have that 🙂

[pine siren]

Pretty sure you can still get the enforcer from a paid addon pack or similar

[rustic bough]

uh loop 29: Black tusks. I instantly got shredded.

this loop is gonna be a pain

[humble halo]

yeah

enforcer is available

for wony ultimate edition owners

i have one

[summer dune]

8 loop

[rustic bough]

you get a Nemesis patch for defeating the Nemesis (probably bugged if you didn't receive it), and then tier 4-1 patches after defeating loop 10, 20, 30 and 40

[summer dune]

thx, i love Ubisoft 😦

[gloomy pulsar]

Black tusk are a challenge, rogue agents are a kick in the head if you're not prepared for them ...I wasn't

[rustic bough]

rogue agents are easy as bosses

[gloomy pulsar]

Not a fan of encountering 3 of them at once for a regular wave

...and then 3 more directly after

[rustic bough]

they're quick tho

[gloomy pulsar]

Yeah I refuse to believe that, especially since I got the worst room upon encountering them

[rustic bough]

depends on your exo talents I guess

I had IC, PotO and Bloodsucker, was a breeze

[gloomy pulsar]

Bunker complex, fucking sucks

[rustic bough]

I don't remember room names

[raven lagoon]

i remember the ones I hate with a passion, lol

[gloomy pulsar]

Hate the communications one, fuck that one in particular, everything else including the arena? Awesome

[raven lagoon]

can't remember which that one is....

I hate the workshop, and the electricity room I think it's called?

hmmm, wonder if anyone has made an album yet with multiple images/shots of all the rooms with all the possible spawn doors highlighted (just for new players to get a quick glimpse of the rooms)

[balmy finch]

If there's a door they'll spawn there. Problem solved

[raven lagoon]

lol, pretty much

[balmy finch]

Also it's literally glowing red and you're reminded of that WAY too muxh

Much

[raven lagoon]

I've had some phase through the doors, or not be visible until they're on my face (that was fun) and then the few randoms that ran back into the doors after leaving them. XD

like scaredy cat, get back here!

[balmy finch]

``Hostiles spawn from highlighted

Doors``

[humble halo]

no some door do not spawn

just for show

[raven lagoon]

still weird that for a battle simulator (just a joke but just saying) it still spawns them in through a door....like, you're a simulation, but we're still gonna spawn you behind a door.

[balmy finch]

It's supposed to be a combat simulation. For training lol

Cuz elsewhere in the game they spawn from doors

Except the nemesis, which is based off hunters, and just spawn from thin air

[raven lagoon]

yeah i know, just saying as a joke....it's like really? doors? don't wanna just randomly teleport them in via highlighted areas on the ground (imagine a outcast rusher just poofing up near you). XD

[balmy finch]

I think the devs will play off of this

[balmy finch]

What concerned me the most was the setup for the nemesis room, how there was two mounted guns set up for apparently no reason

[balmy finch]

what if it was the hunter training ground

[stable crane]

These comms are very interesting

I like when NGN explains thar maybe a betrayal is coming within the enemy ranks

[rustic bough]

This is what my speculations arrived at, too.

[gloomy pulsar]

That would make a lot of sense

[cosmic stream]

Did anyone maxed out their NSA tech?

[gloomy pulsar]

Does allegro do anything for the m16?

[rustic bough]

yes. and 11k to spare

[gloomy pulsar]

Is there a level cap to how much xp you can earn in descent? Likely trying to do this for the event caches

[timid mauve]

@gloomy pulsar no limited as far as you go, and unfortunately, descent XP won't involve seasonal progress (including apparel event) until they fix it on TU19

[gloomy pulsar]

Is this a new thing that's occured? I remember using descent to max out the season in like 2 weeks

[humble wave]

Is there a lfg for Descent ?

[hexed dome]

#lfg-pc

[cosmic stream]

Then you must have bought everything in the store

[cosmic stream]

Was kinda thinking the same thing

If descent was used to become a hunter ourselves

[twilit whale]

does overwatch stack with many agents running it?

[weary pumice]

i don't believe so

[twilit whale]

vindicative too?

[weary pumice]

i don't know honestly, i don't run those nor do i know if they stack from multiple players running it

my guess is test it out and see

if you get double the amount it usually gives for a single person running it then it probably stacks

[balmy finch]

No

Same with opportunistic

And leadership

[pastel kiln]

Is descent still not giving event keys?

[raven lagoon]

nope

scheduled to be fixed in TU19 according to trello board

[pastel kiln]

Isn't this the last week for the event though?

[raven lagoon]

afaik, yup (to be able to EARN keys atleast, yes)

[pastel kiln]

:,^)

That fucking sucks

[raven lagoon]

maybe it'll be fixed by the time the next event rolls around 🥹 🤞

[pastel kiln]

Blows my mind

An event that awards the descent uniform doesn't let you play descent

[rustic bough]

What

You can still play Descent

[cosmic widget]

Is it normal to be at loop 11 and still only have one exotic talent or am I just unlucky?

[rustic bough]

Very unlucky

But props to you for defeating the Nemesis with only 1 exo talent

[cosmic widget]

Thx

[twin geyser]

I remember skipping first exotic talent because the choice was Glass Cannon, the one with pistol and weak points and Adaptive Instincts (I had M1A and Magnum 💀)

[rustic bough]

Glass Cannon would have been the preferred choice

I have beaten Nemesis several times while having picked GC. It's definitely doable.

[desert pond]

adaptive instincts os cracked early game aswell

you can pretty much keep the buffs forever if you clear the rooms fast enough

[timid mauve]

@desert pond I thought it's ended in every room so never pick it

[random pulsar]

has anyone encountered a bug with lucky shot where it just stops working during a run?

[rustic bough]

For some reason, having talents that increase your mag size also increases your ammo capacity

[gloomy pulsar]

Anyone got a rough estimate on how much xp you earn in descent?

Per encounter, per difficulty, per nemesis?

[sturdy copper]

5 loops nemesis will get you 7-8 lvls.

[pine siren]

Depends on your open world settings too, you'll get more xp on heroic 5 directives than lower difficulties

[humble halo]

so descent xp scales with open world difficulty?

[pine siren]

I'm not sure if difficulty affects it but directives do

[humble halo]

ok

[pine siren]

I think it probably does though - did a loop 5 nemesis run a couple of days ago on challenging +4 and got 6 levels

[desert pond]

it ends after 45s

which is more than enough time to clear the room at low loops

[sturdy copper]

yeah, that's on heroic 5 directives

[cosmic stream]

So far I maxed out armor regeneration

But now it’s getting harder to kill more HVT cuss the RNG on solo can scrutinized me fast

[rustic bough]

There's no armor regeneration?

You mean preservation?

[raven lagoon]

maybe they meant AOK from vendor?

[wise granite]

Mfs trying to kill nemesis WITHOUT preservation is the equivalent of making a burger with no patty

[rustic bough]

Honestly you don't really need a whole lot of defensive talents in the Nemesis fight

[twin geyser]

The only thing you need is fire ammo and something, what doesn't spit all of it in 1 sec (M1A or shotty)

[flint breach]

Preservation is based on kills though entrench is better option if you need armor in the fight. Should be able to kill even without any real damage talents

[atomic agate]

Man, I got over 20 levels in descent yesterday and only now I find out reading here it doesn't give event keys. 🤬

I thought it was just a lag and they would be added eventually but today still nothing.

In positive news though I beat Nemesis for the first time yesterday so 'yay' for that. Was in a bunch of crappy teams but eventually got a trio together and we just cruised well passed Nemesis.

[raven lagoon]

\o/ yay for nemesis defeat tho

[atomic agate]

Thanks, man!

[raven lagoon]

ofcourse, always a good feeling to beat nemesis the first time (or every time when you get that "oh crap imma die" feeling and u turn around and kick it's butt)

[pine siren]

I lost to nemesis for the first time yesterday, shrapnel trap one shotted me 😦

Only barely brushed the edge of the red area too

[raven lagoon]

I got two shocks traps thrown at me by the same nemesis back to back....I see that's still a thing....

[atomic agate]

One came in close and we managed to burn it down rapido. Then things started to look doable. I had a frankly crazy amount of allegro and vigilance on an LMG so that was great ha ha.

But now I gotta make up for these event keys, man. I missed last week so I'm already behind.

[cosmic stream]

Well

It’s basically armor on kill

[cosmic stream]

Yeah that one

[twilit whale]

am I hallucinating or HVT can spawn from unmarked (not red) doors? I was sure to put my back to an unmarked door but somehow the mini boss was blasting me from the back.

[stable crane]

Teleport hacks

[ionic plover]

is there someone playing descent? i get no one at matchmaking

[raven lagoon]

prob not alotplaying it right now but folks in other activities due to descent not giving apparel keys so they're farming the things that do.

[ionic plover]

i wanted to try it out and hoping get the project done

[raven lagoon]

keep trying

[twilit whale]

how long can you afk before you get kicked?

[gloomy pulsar]

...I'm having Warzone DMZ flashbacks. Why do I keep crashing mid run losing everything in the process? Most Recently, EAC of all things sent me to desktop.

[twilit whale]

made it to 31 loops in 6 hours....

Imma stop trying to get loop 40

[rustic bough]

15 mins afaik

[twin geyser]

5:23, duo, loop 40 beaten

[raven lagoon]

crazy, did u take a shower after that? lol. I only got as high as loop 17 coming and going through-out the day taking breaks (labelled as like 7hrs in game but was probably like 3 hours of actual playing)

[rustic bough]

you need to be super juiced up to play for 7 hours straight

it's like doing a 24H Le Mans racing but on the spot

[raven lagoon]

poop bucket! \o/

[twin geyser]

We took 10 min breaks total (5 mins 2 times) to go to the toilet and take some snacks. But the headache after that was pretty terrible(

[raven lagoon]

yeah, I feel ya. that's just too much time in front of a pc. all the power to those that can do it but urgh. I do it work all day long but in a game, voluntarily....oof.

[twin geyser]

Was lucky enough to have some spare time on Sunday with my mate being free as well) that was our 10th try in total

[raven lagoon]

oh nice, yeah...mostly been solo myself

[humble halo]

i did try descent yesterday again i got extoic talent of chameleon,sweet dreams and an 500% amp after shooting weakpoint all were so bad i quit and weapons were a trash rifle

[raven lagoon]

there's been a few times I quit before even starting the first run because the game threw trash weapons at me....

[humble halo]

yeah i got all the indication in descent

trash weapon trash talent and 1 delta all that remained was crash

[gloomy pulsar]

Doesn't seem much are asking in LFG for descent, yet interest is drummed up, is there a group someone can refer me to, to play multiple rounds of descent in one sitting?

[raven lagoon]

the lack of LFG for descent is probably just due to the GE and apparel event currently going on since you can't get apparel event keys via descent.

[gloomy pulsar]

What's GE? I'm familiar with the apparel event keys not working ...they gonna do what they did last time and give the keys owed in the new hotfix?

...oh global event, right?

[rustic bough]

10 tries? That's some serious dedication. Took us only 1 try to get to loop 31

[gloomy pulsar]

Sometimes you get a lucky break

That occured for me after like 8 runs

Pretty much threw caution to the wind till we got up to loop 23, and got kicked in the head by our first rogue agent encounter

...literally, fuck skill build rogues.

[rustic bough]

Damn so lucky, I got mine at loop 10. Way too early to face them

[gloomy pulsar]

Damn

[rustic bough]

Literally after Nemesis

[gloomy pulsar]

Reminds me of my buddy completing WONY and getting 4 rogues spawned as soon as we left liberty island

"Oh congrats on completing the expansion, now die."

Rogues need better loot I reckon

[rustic bough]

But other than that, Rogue Agents and boss rooms are a blessing since it allows you to skip the normal way of facing 2-3 waves of enemies which can take ages depending on faction

[gloomy pulsar]

Yeah, I do like the HVT rooms

On our big break we did like 20 of them and nearly maxed out the perm upgrades

[twin geyser]

Sadly, I even remember last 5 loops' progress we were making on our way
27 - 32 - 36 - 38 - 40
Tried trio, squad, duo, solo

[obtuse flint]

Congratulations!

[twin geyser]

🙂 👍

[obtuse flint]

Kinda funny I was just scrolling through this thread to see if you’d managed to do it, and you did!

[pine siren]

well, descent levels may not contribute to the apparel event, but they DO earn you stars towards hollywood for some reason

[vernal shore]

What kind of weapon is best for descent

[raven lagoon]

yeah, that's still a nice feature, atleast able to buy some caches if you play descent enough.

[raven lagoon]

I personally enjoy a Police M4, or Famas, but when I get something like chatterbox talent and some allegro stacked....a 100 round LMG is just the dmn icing on the cake....lol. u just never stop firing.

[pine siren]

given hollywood is my least favourite ge by a country mile, it's the only way I'm likely to get any stars for it

[raven lagoon]

same, I refuse to play hollywood normally and already finished the reward track years ago so no backpack trophy there. so might as well play descent for free stars

[pine siren]

yup

[twilit whale]

in my run, I love rogue agents because it's so much easier and faster than the other rooms. Blind with headshot, dps down, run away, wait for blind CD then do it again. M870 can 5 shot a rogue agent.

[twin geyser]

don't tell me you like Polarity 💀

[pine siren]

sure, polarity is a decent damage buff for a relatively minor mental overhead

[twin geyser]

I'm waiting for TU19 with some MAJOR additions to descent permanent upgrades or after picking comms it'll be dead for me(

[raven lagoon]

who knows what'll happen, it could be abandoned like Kenly shrug or they could add to it and make it great....

I'd still kinda laugh if the nsa upgrade reset each season and you gotta rebuy them every season. lol (not a suggestion, just saying)

since it seems (or one would assume) the patches are different each season for the tiers in descent (why else would they slap "broken wings" over the descent patches?)

[vernal shore]

Do you need to spawn in dc every time you die

[raven lagoon]

ya

it'll end and only choice is to leave/respawn in dc

still not sure why they can't just respawn you (or the group) back at the starting room for a fresh run

[past fog]

I don't think this would be much of an issue. People who still actively play Descent will have enough NSA credits to max all upgrades right away multiple times over and everyone else who tried it this season and didn't like it probably won't go back to it the next season anyway.

[twin geyser]

They were mentioning something about seasonal patches, but I'm not sure that without any improvements / tweaks / additions etc. I'll come back for another run(

[vernal shore]

Are all skills able to be picked or did they lock up some

[pastel kiln]

I don't think I've ever seen banshee pulse.

[raven lagoon]

I agree, if they don't reset the credits as well. Def need something to spend credits on though.

[pastel kiln]

Caches.

Easy solution.

[raven lagoon]

Indeed

[pastel kiln]

I am incredibly surprised it didn't launch like that.

Like every other roguelite I can think of that has some sort of long term progression lets you spend that currency on something.

Usually it's to reroll or some sort of gamble mechanic inside a run but since division has the whole rest of the game attached I don't know why we don't get to buy caches with the leftovers.

[vernal shore]

That’s it? There’s gotta be more you haven’t seen

[pastel kiln]

I also haven't seen the faye drone.

I feel like I haven't seen any of the specialist restricted skills.

[past fog]

I mean, considering they originally planned for Descent to be a solo-only mode and eventually tacked on matchmaking last minute, it's kinda obvious they didn't fully think all the details through.

[pastel kiln]

But I also hardly pay attention because trying to build for skills in descent isn't my thing.

[vernal shore]

I mean that would make sense but I haven’t once seen the deflector shield or turret drone, do they exist or do you only get them after a certain number of loops

[pastel kiln]

I can't say for certain. I swear I remember having the option of the deflector but I skipped it because it didn't seem worth it.

[pine siren]

deflector shield and striker drone definitely both exist in descent

agree that I've never seen any of the specialisation ones though, and only some of the season skills (heal trap and emp sticky but not achilles pulse, not sure about frag trap)

[vernal shore]

Do they come in on the first loop or no

[pine siren]

it's random afaik

[meager frigate]

anyone for descent

[pastel kiln]

yeah sure

[pastel kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446171049164275732/1129544148010152047/image.png

I don't know why this server is weird about copy pasting images and embedding them. But here's a deflector. loop 3

[vernal shore]

Interesting

Dunno why you’d take it over any other skill though

[pastel kiln]

Oh yeah.

I usually go for LMG with chatter anyways.

God I wish chatterbox was an lmg. So much.

[balmy finch]

That would actually fit pretty nicely

[undone bolt]

boolet not big enough

and you know the barrel isn’t long enough, no ability to mount a bipod, 50 round capacity limits the support/suppression role
quite a few factors stopping a P90 from being an LMG

[pastel kiln]

I don't mean I wish Chatterbox was an LMG in the same way that chameleon is an assault rifle.

I want like an m60 or some other 100 round mag LMG to have chatterbox's perk.

A dream...

[wise granite]

I wish Perfect Unbreakable was available as an exotic talent

Cuz god damn, getting blind justic, doctor home and sandman is always the worst

[cyan ferry]

are nsa tech upgrades permanent? like keeners watch?

also if my friend is currently in wony campaign but only wants to come back for descent can he make a new char and be able to play descent if he joins me?

[twilit whale]

yes, it's permanent

[cyan ferry]

are those upgrades and surgical the only way to get chc? or does keeners watch upgrades apply to descent or smth?

[twilit whale]

vindicative and chamelon talents give crit chance as well

[cyan ferry]

ah ok but no watch?

[twilit whale]

I think it doesn't?

supposed to be a fresh start

[cyan ferry]

thats what i figured too but with the number of talents that do smth with crits i thought thered be more ways to get it

i guess theres a ton of shield talents too but i havent seen a shield yet

[twilit whale]

there are 3 shields excluding the firewall one

I really wish there's a stat page in descent to see total crit chance and haz pro and what not

[timid mauve]

There's many rather uncommon exotic talents in live game that would be fun in descent, like NMB kneepad/Dread Edict/merciless, but I guess it maybe too powerful which also breaking the balance.

[balmy finch]

NBM not nmb sorry had to point that out lmao

[balmy finch]

Merciless wouldn't work because it's reliant on the binary trigger concept

[pastel kiln]

Give regulus perk

I wanna blast a clown car of descent enemies with an m870

[rustic bough]

Pummel and Headhunter when

Ngl Pummel will probably be an exotic talent

[wise granite]

Intimidate would actually kinda slap. Pre nerf intimidate tho

[topaz citrus]

Hey does anyone know if the group talents like overwatch and composure stack when more than one person in a group has it?

[twin geyser]

They don't. 1 talent activation for the whole group without stacking (vanguard, overwatch etc.)

[topaz citrus]

Allright thank you

[twin geyser]

👍

[cedar topaz]

Lol glass cannon and shock modifier is an immediate death

[tidal rain]

Wrong place ignore that

[blazing lance]

Anyone up for decent?

[ornate silo]

Is any skill tier build viable option ?

[short orbit]

Do you have a special place when using Rubber Band in descent? Heard that there are good and Bad locations

[pine siren]

the game forces choices on you at certain points if you don't select yourself (talent options expire, room selections get picked at random). You can safely leave it at the end of a boss arena after picking your stats upgrade (but before continuing to the next loop) I believe

[twilit whale]

in a group vs nemesis I always use foam with high tier skill, it makes the fight much easier even vs 4 nemesis with random group (unless someone in the team uses oxidizer then it's always team kill)

[blazing lance]

How do you even reach nemesis, all random groups die at loop 5. They choose hard and dies. Not get why people can't just choose easy...

[raven lagoon]

the nemesis heat just has to reach 100% easy rooms makes it go by faster, but gets u less prepared.

sometimes people/groups iffy about doing easy as they think they'll be underprepared

[blazing lance]

@raven lagoon issue is they do hard when they can't handle it which i hate. I tried 10 times and can't reach nemesis

[raven lagoon]

even solo all easy rooms?

[blazing lance]

Too hard to solo...

[raven lagoon]

just takes some getting used to, keep at it

[vapid sable]

The descent sucks

[raven lagoon]

well everyone has an opinion so...noted, lol.

[vapid sable]

Love having to leave the entire game to get out of the descent

[raven lagoon]

yeah, i've heard of some folks having that issue before

[rustic bough]

Short answer, yes and no.
No because if you are using offensive skills up until the Nemesis fight you are giving yourself a very hard time because the Nemesis can use the same skills against you.
It can be viable in post-Nemesis loops but the higher loop you go, the less effective they will be, since skill damage doesn't really scale that much. So really it's a niche build in Descent .

[static parrot]

The Nemesis also uses skills that you don't have, I keep getting told that the nemesis is supposed to be a mirror of my agent...except I had a shield and cluster seeker, and my last run Nemesis was throwing blinder fireflies at me

[twin geyser]

That's a lie. He was spamming so many skill variations, that the fight was more like escape simulator

[gloomy pulsar]

If he DID mimic us ...good. I don't really ever use skills

Heaven forbid they allow them to use reviver hives

[grizzled briar]

even u go no skill to nemisis , he will have skills and spam them

[balmy finch]

Some skills are copied some aren't

If you have a foam he will use a foam. If you have a blinder he will use a blinder.

But if you have a reviver he will have a restorer

[static parrot]

But he also just uses skills that I dont have

[balmy finch]

I know

That's what I just said lmao

[balmy finch]

^

The point is, the skills they can't copy they pick something else

Shields they can't copy

[humble halo]

what happen if they copy reviver hive 💀 👀

[balmy finch]

they cant

[humble halo]

nice otherwise it would be a problem 👀

[short orbit]

Wtf is this reason behind that random Server restart during Descent? I mean Yeah youre on Loop 20 and getting the message Server restart in 4 Hours, and yep I got kicked from the game.
Serious?
And why the heck there is no reconnection Option?
Players got DC on loop 32 and cant rejoin.. Crap codings

[meager frigate]

why is so hard to find someone to play this mode

[open cape]

tired of playing it for crazy amounts of time and getting crap in return

[meager frigate]

got you...im looking to play just for the fun

[open cape]

yeah it is kinda fun. nice change of pace

[rustic bough]

I've hit a brick wall now. Reached loop 31 and unalived. Twice. I don't know how to get past it

They could at least be more consistent with the rate at which rogue agents and bosses spawn. From loops 29-30 5 out of the 8 rooms were rogue agents

[twin geyser]

Rogues and boss rooms make high loops a bit easier and faster

[uncut gate]

☝️Thats soo true.

[steady sierra]

what happens if I get Chatterbox first and get Bullet hell after?

[balmy finch]

afaik the buff gets locked

[raven lagoon]

ya, confirm the same. so if you're ending a arena try to get the RPM speed buff or w/e before ending the room.

I missed out on that once, was sooo pissed about it.

[balmy finch]

but thats not if you replace incessant chatter with bullet hell. you still need both

[twin geyser]

Ideally, you get infinite x5 RPM boost with infinite ammo and no need to reload

[raven lagoon]

hehe, chatter, bullethell, and plague was best combo ever. XD

[balmy finch]

i prefer agonizing bite

[raven lagoon]

that was so much damn fun to run with for a bit

[twin geyser]

Actually, there is a better combo 🙂

[raven lagoon]

tho plague is a bit wonky on actually tranferring the ticks to another target

[balmy finch]

cuz they need to be within range

[raven lagoon]

sometimes they can be right next to each other and it wont bump over

[balmy finch]

never had that happen

[raven lagoon]

I have it happen every so often but meh....nothing to complain to ubi about, shit happens.

[balmy finch]

i personally use incessant chatter / agonizing bite / bloodsucker

[twin geyser]

Dropped bloodsucker, because they one-slap you anyway, so why bothering?)

[steady sierra]

currently running Incessant chatter/Adaptive Instincts rn.

[raven lagoon]

chatter is the one talent that if I get it, I usually stop using my AR and go to an LMG the next time I'm offered it (100 rng mag ofcourse)

[balmy finch]

theres not any worth replacements tbh

i use an lmg with max steady handed and max unhinged so

bullet hell literally would do nothing

especially when paired with lucky shot

[raven lagoon]

i've never done many blue talents (outside preservation) mostly because I only do nem runs mainly (only went to 17 once) so armor wasn't really a big deal up to that point. after that I can def see armor talents and stuff being very useful

[balmy finch]

there are no health talents wdym

omg what if they added bonus health to this game

[raven lagoon]

i mean armor but too lazy to fix....

u know what I meant

i haven't even bought the HOK thing from vendor cause meh, useless IMHO.

[balmy finch]

no i didnt because you changed from calling it health to armour in the same message

[balmy finch]

i bought out the vendor and now have 7000 spare credits

[raven lagoon]

there, so nobody else gets confused. fixed

[balmy finch]

7,178 to be precise

[raven lagoon]

I mainly roll all red (with some yellow for handling and trauma), only blue is ever preservation and no armor based exotic talents unless absolutely forced into it really.

[balmy finch]

only blue is ever preservation
waste

[twin geyser]

Chatter, Lady Death and Plague. That's the best one (for now)

[balmy finch]

lady death is still shit to me because of the god awful uptime

[raven lagoon]

only a waste if you die shrug lol

[balmy finch]

i mean like, not rolling anything else

[twin geyser]

Lmg will not carry you on 30+ loops, not worth it

[steady sierra]

I use clutch

[balmy finch]

nothing does, whats your point

clutch is good only with agonizing bite

[raven lagoon]

i know, everything else is a waste I mean....armor is pretty much not needed for up to nem runs is what I was saying (my scenario)

[twin geyser]

Shotty carries everything. Except long distances, surely

[raven lagoon]

the one for headshots granting armor can be nice too I guess (don't use it myself but can be good especially in a group if ur not guaranteed the kill)

[balmy finch]

shotties wont really help in 30+ lol

entrenched

[raven lagoon]

ya, i can see that one being good when grouped or if going for longer runs

[balmy finch]

its bad until over 5

[twin geyser]

I reached loop 41, one shotting everything except dogs, rogues and big elite boiz with shotty, so I know what I'm talking about lol

[balmy finch]

whatever helps ya sleep at night ig

[twin geyser]

Yeap. Full red until nemesis 👍

[balmy finch]

i go 4 red 1 yellow

[twin geyser]

For foam?

[balmy finch]

ye

[raven lagoon]

i always pick up trauma when I can, and if I have unhinged I'll start taking some handling (if needed) since u can usually stack a few unhinged before needing extra handling

[balmy finch]

for unhinged that depends on the weapon ofc

[raven lagoon]

very much so

i did that with a famas once and regretted it instantly. XD

[twin geyser]

Satellite dropping incoming

👀

[raven lagoon]

had the police m4 equipped at the time with multiple unhinged and it handled fine, but swapped to a famas cause I thought "this be nice" NOPE, WRONG

[steady sierra]

ever tried maxed Incessant chatter with Allegro?

[raven lagoon]

i mean, was workable (barely), but definitely picked up handling quickly after.

[raven lagoon]

yes, it's hilarious

[twin geyser]

Yeap, bullets glitch and you can't shoot on high RPM weapons 👌

[steady sierra]

still lvl 1 allegro, not enough

mine that is

[balmy finch]

allegro is bad imo

[raven lagoon]

allegro can be great depending on what you're going for. I know it's amazing with plague talent, that's always fun

always hilarious to see the nemesis (same with most bosses) drop from across the room in under 10 seconds from the start of the fight, haha.

[rustic bough]

Need to test the Plague tick damage potential for max stacks, then switch to Carbine M44 and proccing Opportunistic, Gunslinger and Optimist

Also I hate the Combustion room. Good for boss encounters but bad for everything else including Rogue Agents

[twilit whale]

I have seen 1 mil a tic with optimist 1 bullet M44 on a stream

[hidden idol]

For me the worst one is the 3d printing lab iirc, the one where there is cover only in the middle that could be considered "safe"

sorry for the ping too

[rustic bough]

Amazing

[rustic bough]

I don't remember that one. Is it the one with a warhounds display on one side of the room?

[hidden idol]

I believe it is

I can't really recall which one, but I'm sure it has lab on it

[raven lagoon]

ill take 3d printing lab over workshop

i hate workshop

[rustic bough]

Which one is workshop again?

[raven lagoon]

workshop is the one with a circular table at both ends with a warhound on top. a little swuared wall off area in middle with only an entrance on each side....small little room, mostly some boxes and table only....

[rustic bough]

Ok so I got it mixed up. Workshop instead of 3D printing. Now, which one is the 3D printing lab?

And yeah workshop is somewhat okay except when it's BT or Cleaners

[raven lagoon]

3d printing labs is same themed area, but has two semi walled off rooms sorta, then an area without walls with a small table with warhound on top of it. and other corner of room has a small lwoer pit area with a little walkway around edge of that area

[rustic bough]

Mostly because the spawn doors are perfectly symmetrical on each end

[rustic bough]

Is it dimly lit with a green tinge near one of the entrances?

[raven lagoon]

nah, pretty bright actually

[rustic bough]

Mm can't remember that room

[raven lagoon]

Still debating on making a lil catalog of each roomwith photos from different angles.

[fading swift]

22 nemesis runs this. Zero reconstructed caches. I am sad.

*week

[timid mauve]

RNG is crucial thing, my reconstructed drop rate is slightly better than 12%

[uncut gate]

I completed many +30 loop runs and got only 2 reconctructed caches as a whole. 🤷

[rustic bough]

I don't remember ever getting one, but I noticed a blueprint for Carnage in my bench

[whole helm]

Yes, i had the pp19 and a full Red build, random boss and i got the mob spawn door on loop 30, basically the enemies got melted with a brrrr

[steady sierra]

I used MG5 with MP5 in my last run, satisfying. With bullet hell so I don't need to reload

had to change my MPX with MP5 cause it bugged.

maxed Incessant Chatter and lvl 3 Allegro were enough for me, just to avoid bugging out.

[whole helm]

3 reconstructed for me, i've Lost count of the Nemesis runs, some over loop20 runs

[steady sierra]

btw, what's reconstructed caches?

[whole helm]

I've tried a mp7 with allegro and chatterbox, it's something to try, reconstructed caches Is something that drops in descent eich gives a named item and a Blueprint for some DZ exclusive item

I got the matador, the manic and another backpack

[twilit whale]

blueprint for named items

[steady sierra]

So, it's just named cache with extra stuffs. How come I never got one?

[twilit whale]

12% chance at nemesis or roughly 6 hours a cache if you kill nemesis every single run at loop 5

[prisma knot]

You have every run 12% chance. Don't forget that

[raven lagoon]

can't wait to go home and run some descent, grab another comm. \o/

[undone bolt]

MG3⁉️

[steady sierra]

MG5, typo

[atomic agate]

Anyone know if they fixed the apparel keys not awarding in Descent for this week?

[raven lagoon]

nope, no maintenance was done afaik. still on trello to be fixed in TU19.

(means probably next season)

[atomic agate]

Ah man, that's what I thought but was hoping I was wrong. I guess I'll have to stick with open world stuff for now. Only ten keys to go but it's annoying not to be able to do this on the new hotness

Grinding keys and NSA currency together was my whole plan. ☹️

[raven lagoon]

yeah, sad to not be able to get keys while enjoying it

[ionic plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1tAih9Owio

[rustic bough]

I know what room it is now. Yeah that room is terrible with few spots viable for cover

[raven lagoon]

yeah, once i learned its named i kinda avoid if if I have a choice

[rustic bough]

Yeah I think I'm gonna go with that Strat from loop 25 onwards

[brisk sequoia]

How many intels y’all got in descent so far ?

Out of the 12 available

[open gorge]

Who wants to do a descent

[twin geyser]

7 \ 12 will be this week

[brisk sequoia]

Thank you for reply ok it’s correct then, same for me 7/12

[raven lagoon]

thought u were missing one?

[timid mauve]

7/12, and the recent one is the most interesting

[raven lagoon]

I'm still in love with the third? fourth? one? "THAT....is a briefcase..."

[brisk sequoia]

Ye , actually I remember until 10 days ago the total number of intel’s was like 16 ? So I got confused now only 12

[raven lagoon]

yeah, still not sure why it got lowered shrugs

[brisk sequoia]

Lol the narrative guy being on holiday prolly made it shorter

[twin geyser]

I like how 12 intel match 12 weeks of the season 👌

[raven lagoon]

that's true, just seemed weird to have it originally say 16....maybe that was just an ooops tho

[pine siren]

Maybe they were just assuming the season would run over by 4 weeks

[balmy finch]

Or maybe they plan to add more next season

[raven lagoon]

maybe that's it, maybe they just accidentally added some too early that weren't supposed to be there

[humble halo]

maybe they just f*d up as always

[wise granite]

3. Decided not to go for any more of em until you can get apparel keys on descent/the apparel event ends

[balmy finch]

There was 4 or 5 prior to the apparel event tho

[wise granite]

Yeah. I got most of those I think. Fumbled the nemesis thing many times too

[balmy finch]

You can only get one comm per week

Right now the max to have is 8

[pastel kiln]

What causes the no nemesis spawn glitch?

[timid mauve]

Incompetent of Dev team

[balmy finch]

That's a stretch

[mighty tartan]

What should be the first things to buy with the NSA credits?

[rustic bough]

Armor on kill

[coral fox]

I went AoK then Haz Protection

[rustic bough]

I am so pissed. I died at loop 31 again

I don't know which is worse: BT on loop 6 or Outcast heavy on loop 31

guy just beelines for you and is annoying as fuck

[undone bolt]

just like in the trailer

working as intended