td2-descent

[obtuse flint]

And lemme tell you they are powerful. You can feel them

[vestal mist]

true, i havnet spent any yet. was saving up to knock them all out at once in chunks

[hallow fable]

is currency upgrade worth it?

its 25% more at max right?

its about 113 more on top of 455

[obtuse flint]

Eh I wouldn’t get that until right before stuff like status effects, but yes it was crazy. I was rolling in currency after I got that maxed out

Never had to worry about limited rerolls so I never skipped a room on my final run

[hallow fable]

i have accuracy at 0, skill damage at 0 and status effect at 8, i was guessing to go for currency after status, then damage and accuracy last

[ornate coral]

I've no problem with that its chalenging mode. I'd actualy love it as I love Survival in TD1 . I was hoping we could check our stats. But its only QoL so I will survive without it.

[obtuse flint]

Accuracy is fire.

[hallow fable]

good enough reason for me, i know sometimes spend like 2k for reroll then i skip choice so i can afford 250 for ammo 🤣

[obtuse flint]

But I do use rifle so a lil more of a priority for me

[hallow fable]

smg + ar, why do people uses LMG so much tho? i dont find it appealing somehow

and with bullet hell, even rifle and handgun with that tallent for RoF can be LMGs 🤣

[cedar topaz]

At what loop do rooms have 2+ waves

[obtuse flint]

I’m rifle + shotgun exclusively. If I don’t have them I will just use pistol

[obtuse flint]

Solo loop 6, and I believe group it’s loop 4

[cedar topaz]

Oh right

[vestal mist]

im pesti, so i use lmg more than ar. in descent i use the pistol a lot. but if i get bullet king, pesti, lady death as exotics, then im running m870, L86, revolver, fire dart & fire chem

and stacking alegro, crit

[obtuse flint]

No reviver hive is so daring

[hallow fable]

revolvers are so damn op

yep, i know about 3-4 loops no revive, just restart game xD

i did once restarted starting point 24 times until i got revive as first skill, in meantime in those 24 times, i saw only twice the shield

those two skills are magnificiently rare

[vestal mist]

agreed

[hallow fable]

shock traps are my new fave

big area and throwing it at boss does wonders

anyone did 6 skill cores before nemesis?

[obtuse flint]

I do all red. Also going to bed. Good luck on your runs when server goes back online!

[vestal mist]

cya

[grizzled briar]

bye

[hallow fable]

sleep well!

[vestal mist]

i go 10 reds then yellows to 5 before i look at blues. maybe ill try a status/skill run and see where i end up

[grizzled briar]

i did all blue and i was in loop 19 no problem

i just get bored and went to sleep

[fathom minnow]

fairly, Descent is a snooze

[hallow fable]

but forced the red talents for damage right?

[grizzled briar]

yes red talent

i had m870 , most of things was 1 shot

[shy vale]

Hi there. Active descent players please add me for daily runs aswell, psn: Wirindre

I like a good run or 2, a few hours daily on Descent with the same players/ team.

[rustic bough]

you had me until you said you're on PS

[topaz plover]

i wonder why on earth 1 player enemies are more aggressive than in 2 players?

[hidden idol]

yes, there are a few areas that have a "safe" cover area, but most (99% of the other cover) will kill you on hard doors

Until now Chemical Lab and Combustion Lab are my favorites to do hard/HVL, since you can pretty easily get into a cover that doesn't kill you

[topaz plover]

and for rewards for playing this, is utter garbage and making this more of a time waster than anything else. playing 2 hrs to maybe get 1 exotic cache isnt worth it. what we players needs, are loads of exotic components, and this game mode isnt helping.

[hidden idol]

3D Printing Room and Workshop are the worst imo tho

You just don't have any real cover, since you can be hit by any side and doors all around

[rustic bough]

sorry to say but if you went into Descent expecting it to be a new quickest way of farming Exotic caches then you're playing Descent wrong.

I hate that one room that has 3 doors in close proximity to each other

https://streamable.com/p4kq60
this room

[topaz plover]

2 players take less dmg to go down as well compared to 1 players as well.

[rustic bough]

ah it's called Security room. How appropriate, it makes me feel vulnerable.

[topaz plover]

game mode doesnt do anything for the rest of the game at all, really. just as useless as pvp

[rustic bough]

it will appeal to those who will find these gamemodes exciting

[topaz plover]

sure, no doubt about it. i'm just saying it is utterly disappointing

[hidden idol]

you can get on top of that table

let me send you a print on dm

safest area from what I experimented

and oh yeah, steady hands with a shotgun is funny af

thing becomes a sniper rifle

[fast dawn]

even with unhinged? Or do i need high tier of Steady Hands to compensate for high tier of Unhinged

[vestal mist]

youll want some weapon handling with unhinged after a few. LoL it gets crazy

[hidden idol]

yes

Because unhinged reduces a flat % while steady hands does the same, but up to 100-91 stacks with an increase from 1% per shot to 10% per shot

so if lets say, you have unhinged lvl 6 (should be a reduction of 66% or something, 60% to simplify), and steady hands level 6, you would need only 10 shots to negate the effects, the other 87 shots remaining would still increase your accuracy and precision

however keep in mind you will just miss everything the moment the buff resets to refill the mag, so a low RPM is better if you don't have any other weapon handling

[desert pond]

level 6 has a reduction above 150%

its really dangerous going above 4 if youre running a shotgun

because i promise you that you'll end up shooting the roof at the worst time possible

[raven lagoon]

NASA will hate you for downing their satellites u stack too much unhinged....🤣

[desert pond]

im honestly tempted as fuck to just run an smg and go for t10

see how bad it is

[raven lagoon]

u start at the toes, and work your way up, just slice em in half with the kickback and reduced handling....

[desert pond]

nah dude

im pretty sure it would instantly kick above their head

actually smgs aint too bad

anything else tho

oh boy

[raven lagoon]

i had like 3 unhinged stacked on a allegro police m4....wasn't bad. next loop i swapped to famas cause I mean, why not right? DUMB.....

instantly shot up in the air, XD

[desert pond]

3 is still manageable

4 is too

[raven lagoon]

next two rooms I was grabbing handling

[desert pond]

yea

[gilded blade]

Im glad there is no mechanic where you launch yourself backwards due to too many stacks of Unhinged

[hidden idol]

Didn't manage to go above tier 5, and we still don't have a list of all talents

[shy vale]

Are you PSN active descent player? Please add me Wirindre. Thanks.

[hidden idol]

I could try to do a simple one, but due to skill issue it would take a long time to get all the values

[hidden idol]

yeah, but I will be inactive for a few days

but will add you probably today

[uncut gate]

T10 is hella fun. But i went with t10 steady hand and with t10 braced. M249B was like a laser beam. With t10 allegro too. Refreshing experience.

[hidden idol]

Chatterbox or bullet hell to keep shooting non-stop?

And I think I'm gonna try to make a spreadsheet with the values from t1 to t10 of every talent

[desert pond]

its about time someone made one

[hidden idol]

however due to skill issue I won't be able to do it myself, I would probably need help on that lol

to get every talent that is available and each tier amount

[raven lagoon]

already done

it just happened to be on the community discord. XD but yeah, they're updating their sheet with that, most talents outside of exotics are all on the sheet already afaik.

[hidden idol]

is there a link to the sheet tho?

[raven lagoon]

oof, damn u bot

[hidden idol]

only mods have embed permits

[raven lagoon]

ugh, ur DMs open?

[hidden idol]

yeah

[raven lagoon]

sometimes I hate not being able to share useful resources here

[hidden idol]

thanks

[nova comet]

I'll work on an exception with the team. Just that link, or do you have others?

[hidden idol]

this link seems to have a lot of stuff, so my guess is that it is only 1

[raven lagoon]

that's the main gearsheet @nova comet most info is there

[uncut gate]

Yeah, Bullet Hell isnt mandatory for that, but its really nice if you set up your talents. 👍

[raven lagoon]

and i understand the reasoning behind the bot and removing links. hell it took some major whining to get this discord whitelisted again in the community discord when the bot went haywire (cause we sent a lot of folks over this way for the LFG for sure and posted the invite link alot)

[nova comet]

I've brought it up to the team. I'll update you if any updates happen.

[raven lagoon]

no worries, and thank you aspect. just enjoy helping folks find the needed info easier.

[nova comet]

Cool. I'm out, though. Too tired to type well.

[raven lagoon]

take it easy, later!

[desert pond]

LMAO THEY NERFED GLASS CANNON

now its 30/50

so still suicide but even less damage

[pine siren]

Is it still both an exotic talent and a regular talent?

[uncut gate]

Glass Cannon? I havent seen it as a normal talent... Only exotic.

[open cape]

It was not exotic in the Pts

[uncut gate]

Oh, that explains.

[fast dawn]

did they fix the/joinbug?

[open cape]

Should be dealt with. When this maintenance is done

[uncut gate]

If you remind that. Wasnt bloodsucker a normal blue talent in pts? Its exotic now, so how many perks were moved there?

[desert pond]

bloodsucker would be busted as a normal blue

[open cape]

It was

[uncut gate]

Thats right, i wont disagree.

[desert pond]

meanwhile glass cannon is exotic for whatever reason

[open cape]

They put at least 3 normal talents as exotics

[desert pond]

bloodsucker, glass and what?

[open cape]

I forgut

[desert pond]

i havent seen another exotic that isnt an actual exotic skill

either way, glass cannon should just be moved to red

30/50 just isnt good whatsoever, especially for an exotic

id rather have sandman on floor 30

[open cape]

Yeah it's just taking up space in the exotic talent choices. Getting in the way

[desert pond]

sandman & regulus & glass is my fav choice

bc theyre all beyond useless

[pine siren]

Regulus? You mean blind justice, the old liberty talent that doesn't actually work?

[desert pond]

the one with the weird 500% headshot damage or whatever

looks like a knockoff version of the regulus

im sure it'd be nice with a sniper but snipers are god awful in descent

[pine siren]

Iirc it was one of the talents on Liberty before the Gear 2.0 rework

Presumably it actually functioned in those days though

[desert pond]

wdym it doesnt work?

[pine siren]

Whenever I've tried it in descent it hasn't worked

[desert pond]

lol

id love to see some more exotics

theyre kinda the fun part about this mode

the "what if i had this talent on x weapon"

[pine siren]

Needs gearset talents as exotics

Or just as talents I guess

[desert pond]

imagine you could level exotics

oh boy

they all say "level 1" aswell so i imagine they had the idea alr

[fast dawn]

seems like they fix the /join /leave function for descent. My friends get booted offline to main screen when he joins

[raven lagoon]

nice lil added function there then

[hallow fable]

died at loop 2 arena, cleaner exploded behind me and another cleaner shot me LOL

[desert pond]

i died on loop 6 arena because i lagged for 5s

my revive did drop

but i was in the simulation over screen by the time it did

which means i got revived in the death screen lmao

couldn't even close the descent, had to close the game

[steady haven]

what kind of build for duo/solo descent?

[obtuse flint]

https://imgur.com/a/QZJpqHL

[raven lagoon]

murder build right there, lol

[obtuse flint]

With preference for all red before nemesis + opportunistic and L1 trauma then blue talents then yellow talents

I will acknowledge some people sprint all over the room. I don’t do that. I sit in cover two paces away from a door, spam shotgun kill all enemies out of door. Kill rushers with shotgun, then switch to rifle and headshot everything else, getting additional damage buffs from gunslinger, close and personal and Overwatch

[lime zephyr]

I just reached loop 20 yesterday, before I had to quit as it was taking too long.. I take all red cores mostly but stack up on Entrench, Preservation, Adrenaline rush and clutch whenever I can. My favorite exotic talents are bullet hell, plague of the outcasts and agonizing bite. In offensive talent, I choose Allegro, Overwatch, Surgical, Precise, Critical and Allegro mostly. I also try to get Lucky shot, steady handed and Braced.

[astral anchor]

I thought they fixed thing with leaving Descent with a group, but no

[astral anchor]

depends on your game style and what game give to you. You can try different options

when you will know all talents that exist currently, you can see what you want better

[grizzled briar]

do u want screenshot from my game?

[desert pond]

@obtuse flint how do i rubber band

gotta go do somethin

and im not keen on losing my 20 loop run lmao

[obtuse flint]

Just plug in your controller and then use rubber band to push the sticks next to each other

Your character should be spinning in a slow stable circle

[desert pond]

do both have to move?

[obtuse flint]

I found it to be safer for both to move next to each other, but I think only the right stick technically needs to move

[desert pond]

well im not gonna take any risks

im doing so well that 30 is guaranteed pretty much

loop 20 and im still two tapping arena bosses lmao

[obtuse flint]

Yessir. 10-25 is just about the time and not being sloppy

[desert pond]

30 isntt gonna be too bad either tbh

i went for the chatter shenanigans btw

and oh boy does it slap

[obtuse flint]

Yeah if I were to do it again, I would do chatter. I agree that long term it’s better than bullet hell

[desert pond]

woth fast hands reload times are non existent anyway

also i just swapped from diamondback to chameleon

mostly because it pissess me off that it targets turrets etc

[obtuse flint]

Agreed. I’m not a fan of diamondback mainly cause of reliability and it’s a distraction for me too lol

[desert pond]

cham just does its work

[obtuse flint]

I would try the LMG and shotgun route next time. I’m curious

[desert pond]

thats precisely what in doing

hold on, dms

no perms here

[obtuse flint]

Yeah it looks good. Just don’t let fatigue take you out.

Snipers are the greatest danger after 30.

[hidden idol]

Huh.
Chamaleon + Chatterbox + Plague of Outcasts
Use a LMG with Steady Hands + Allegro.

Probably would be nuts

[pine siren]

Chatterbox and lmg is a great combo if you can get that first reload in safely (while near 5 enemies), no need for allegro

[obtuse flint]

I read on Reddit that if you reload pistol in front of door, it transfers to your LMG as well. I haven’t tried it yet but I’m curious

[meager wolf]

someone up for descent?

[desert pond]

can confirm

chatter doesnt say that it drops if you swap weapons

and it actually doesnt

[ionic plover]

So does anybody know yet what loop drops the blueprints? Is it 20 or further?

[desert pond]

swap plague for bloodsucker n you got a build

[desert pond]

nah that'd be mean

takes like 5h to get there

[hidden idol]

Bloodsucker didn't appeal to me that much

Isnt it also just 8% armor?

[desert pond]

per stack

and they refresh

aka you just get 80% bonus armour at all times

[hidden idol]

Hm, gonna see this later

[raven lagoon]

IIRC, it's the reconst caches. and u have a small percentage to grab one on a nem clear, and a higher percentage much later in the loops, like 31+

[desert pond]

im so tempted to do another 6h run

just go n perfect my chatter shenanigans

[hidden idol]

I'm waiting my game to copy files and gonna run a descent, if you want to join.
However probably only 3h, since this gonna take a while and timezone

[desert pond]

nah ion do anything else than solo runs

[hidden idol]

Understandable. But any given reason for it?

[desert pond]

im aiming for the top solo spot

[hidden idol]

Good luck then. I'm doing it more for fun

[desert pond]

oh its fun for me

trying to find stupid builds

[hidden idol]

My next try will probably be trying Headshot damage

[desert pond]

dont

unless youre actually cracked

[hidden idol]

Seems that you can get up to 300% HSD

[hidden idol]

Skill tier 6 bait + foam + Steady hands

[desert pond]

yea thats a waste

[hidden idol]

Entrench and Preservation ofc. Exotic idk, probably diamondback or breathe free

[desert pond]

honestly i might just do a pistol only n see where it takes me

lmao

probably impossible past 25

[hidden idol]

Nemesis using pistol: "What"

[desert pond]

entrench is bad, swap it for clutch

[hidden idol]

Clutch does what?

[desert pond]

same thing but less requirement

[hidden idol]

(Different names due to different languages)

[desert pond]

entrench needs you to be in cover while below x% armour and hit a headshot

clutch needs you to be below x% armour and hit a crit

just a superior version

[hidden idol]

I can see that

[desert pond]

especially if youre running crit perks

/diamondback

which i cannot recommend anymore

[hidden idol]

Probably Headshot would be good with a team rather than solo

[desert pond]

it doesnt make a difference really

[hidden idol]

I could one tap enemies (hopefully) after a few talents

[desert pond]

if youre trying to onetap people just run a shotgun woth unhinged

lemme dm you the build i used last time

[hidden idol]

Already did that, but Chatterbox is necessary for maximum fun

[desert pond]

that one lets ya two tap arena bosses beyond loop 15

[desert pond]

just run both

[hidden idol]

Problem is getting Chatterbox lol

[desert pond]

it does seem quite rare

fun fact

you can have both bullet hell and chattee

[hidden idol]

Btw, I got a triple or quad exotic talent back to back yesterday

[desert pond]

and i kinda feel like theres some unintended cooperation with these two

[hidden idol]

Massive bonkers.
Then my team instantly died to nemesis

Idk if I used bonkers correctly, and gonna afk now. Good evening

[obtuse flint]

I wonder what’s the quickest time I could speed through to nemesis solo. I bet it could be sub 20 minutes if you really hauled ass

I feel like getting breathe free on the first loop would be critical

[desert pond]

breathe free & shotgun

youd also have to hope for rng to gove you easy rooms on every loop

[obtuse flint]

Tbh, if I’m solo, I don’t play unless I got a shotgun. I just restart

[fathom minnow]

one of the many flaws of Descent if i am being honest

[dense hemlock]

lf decent

[obtuse flint]

Can’t say I disagree. I kinda wish tho that in group you could at least choose a weapon type you want

On a side note: I cannot seem to figure out how to guide a bunch of randoms in a group of 4 to beat the nemesis fight. Cause like they die sooooo quick.

[full delta]

Reached the nems, Got sniped by him in 2 shots

god damn

[obtuse flint]

Special ammo is the key!

[nocturne laurel]

no hes just stupid op

[obtuse flint]

https://imgur.com/a/acS6APM

I’ve killed him the exact same way over 10 times now. Usually less than 1min and then over. And I swear I’m not that good at this game with pretty mid aim

[gloomy pulsar]

Cheating b*tch headshot me while she was blind, can this nemesis get anymore bullshit?

Also adaptive instinct seems to be bugged

Nothing seems to kill my mood for playing this game more then getting to the nemesis and dying from bs...

[shrewd flame]

Is it me or did they tweak the difficulty for solo?

I'm seeing medium rooms a lot more frequently

[obtuse flint]

I ran all easy except one to nemesis just now

[shrewd flame]

Wondering how hard it was

[obtuse flint]

Whatcha mean? Like the nemesis fight?

[shrewd flame]

Yeah

[obtuse flint]

Exactly the same as the first 20 seconds of this clip: https://imgur.com/a/acS6APM

Legit did the same thing in the same spot

[shrewd flame]

Yeah people told me to cheese with special ammo and all

I feel like the harder part for me is even getting there

I die stupid deaths all the time

[obtuse flint]

Reviver hive and decoy seems to mitigate that for me mostly. Armor on kill and haz pro NSA tech upgrades helps a ton with survivability

[long compass]

Someone had problem with the factions Rikers and black tusk? Because they are very difficult to defeat them

[open brook]

is there anyway to glitch through the doors?

I'm stuck behind the objective room

[gloomy pulsar]

I just seem to be getting the worst luck with nemesis enemies, they always find a way to piss on my run

Even abusing special ammo, I somehow get killed through a supposed stun lock

Blind? Headshots me, On fire? I don't care, Spawn? Oh lemme just bum you from behind, INVISIBLY

That last one was gold, because I had two stun locking skills, and two exotic talents

Overkill for this thing apparently, and yet

[ionic plover]

Say bye bye to your run
If you had team and one of them had made it through ( if they had a chance that is unless doors never open rarely )
They could have cleared the room and you would be teleported but other then that no

[ionic plover]

Happens
This mode requires patience which I lose Aswell sometimes

[open brook]

managed to clear entire room from behind the door but still locked out lmao. will just try again tomorrow

[ionic plover]

Nope have to reach the end of the loop

To load in next lobby

[orchid blade]

@ionic plover can you explain how this mode works? Is there a save point? Is there a point at which u can keep your build there if u don’t die and spawn to help another?

[ionic plover]

Nope once you log out , disconnect or anything happens you will restart the run

[orchid blade]

Okay then it’s best to max out those base stats at that vendor then

[ionic plover]

You could join in friend lobbies but not sure if it's patched or not

[orchid blade]

It’s cool I like it

[ionic plover]

Yes they will help in the long run
Get armor on kill first then expensive ones

[orchid blade]

Yeah usually my go to

This mode lowkey gave the game time for them to fix they issues tbh

As someone who had nothing left to look for or do I was stuck in this for hrs

[ionic plover]

I am not sure if you realized what happened yesterday
But they have zero clue on what they are doing
But I will end the convo here before a mods feelings get hurt

[orchid blade]

Well I left a few months ago i didn’t care for the updates but i tried this game mode and even tho I agree with u on how clueless mods are

This game mode blew me away

So I think they getting it together

It’s endgame PvE to me for div2. They should really take the time to work on the bugs for a bit tho

I get they wanna get content out but if the content has issues every time no one will care I didn’t but this game mode here aye it’s a clean slate for now

Dunno who did it but give them a raise after they add a few more diff spots and legendary down the line if possible?

@ionic plover one last question tho my friend I seen his loop is at 35

How do u actually get that far if it don’t save do y’all gotta pull a all nighter till y’all die or is each nemesis kill a save point till u die?

[obtuse flint]

Rubber band on a plugged in controller :)

[orchid blade]

Lmao

[obtuse flint]

I took a 2 hour break at one point, and just left my character spinning in a circle

[ionic plover]

Yup lol I usually just place something heavy on the stick of my controller
Does the trick

[obtuse flint]

Whatcha mean something heavy. I’m curious to have alternative methods

[ionic plover]

Just my phone or ps4 controller lol

[obtuse flint]

Hmm which stick? Left or right?

[shrewd flame]

I legitimately hop on more with the intention to play descent than the actual open world now lol

Even if I suck

[ionic plover]

Left incase it tries to mess with the controller
Atleast I can aim

[shrewd flame]

If they eventually update it with more maps to spice things up that'd be neat. 3 is a good start but not entirely varied enough to me

[orchid blade]

Descent beats majority of the content so easily simple

[obtuse flint]

I can relate to that fear lol. I have a scuf and I refused to use the rubber band on it. So I plugged in the default controller and just switched controllers every time I came back.

[shrewd flame]

Currently we have Potomac, NSA entrance and NSA maintenance. The whole AR thing can lend itself well to just some more out-there map design

[ionic plover]

Yup definitely don't try that with a scuff or if you own playstation edge controller lol

[orchid blade]

Man my Lunch break almost over 😥

Nice talking to y’all gtg

[obtuse flint]

I want something of a sandbox kind of descent where we can have silly gear set talents and just wreck. I don’t care if the XP and rewards are shit. I just want it to be for laughs.

[obsidian halo]

Hey i got stuck in the shop in loop 11 plz anyone have any idea how to fix it

[obtuse flint]

If you use controller, try turning it off

[obsidian halo]

No 😦

[hidden idol]

Black Tusk is pretty horrible, even more if you are at the start (few loops in).
Rikers are "easy" if you are on a map with safe spots, areas with cover that actually works

but yeah, until now they were the most problematic for me

[ionic plover]

Keep jammer riot foam or rev + jammer

[twin geyser]

Big riker shield boi ended my run at loop 32, so I hate rikers the most 💀

[hidden idol]

yeah, I still haven't found the big bois, but my guess is that they appear after loop 15 from what I see

[hidden idol]

Foam + Jammer is pretty nice
Reviver doesn't work too well for me, since it seems to revive only once (even if you have skill tier 6)

Unless you have to place the reviver, so it can revive you even post-death (when you drop dead, not down)

[ionic plover]

When you drop it it will still only revive you once
But I believe you only drop it when playing in a team so it can revive someone else and you

Atleast that's how I think it works when you have multiple revive hives

[hidden idol]

yeah, so reviver is pretty useless for me

because most of the time if I die it isn't due to a single enemy, but rather 3 guys running straight for me

[ionic plover]

It just gives you a last chance but yeah it can be bad if you are surrounded then you are dead no matter what lol

[twin geyser]

Have to disagree, this reviver helped me to get through multiple tricky rooms

[hidden idol]

It helped you, however for me it just is a lost skill slot

Sure, it helps, I won't say it doesn't. But my experience with reviver hive isn't much of a good one, and just removes me a skill slot I could use

so Skill issue by my part

[twin geyser]

It's not, just unluck with some enemies (cough-cough suicidal outcast rushers)

[hidden idol]

gonna be honest, I would pick reviver hive if it could revive post-death

btw, when does yellow enemies appear?

[raven lagoon]

i don't use skills that much in descent but I would pick it solely because if nem copies it, it just removes one harmful skill from their aresenal....

[grizzled briar]

u have to buy revive kit for next time

if u died

[hidden idol]

no, reviver just revived me once

I had 3 or 4 charges, but it revived me only when I got down instead of dead

[grizzled briar]

if u dont buy revive kit from shop it wont revive u second time

[hidden idol]

oh, you mean you spend a revive kit to get up, not to revive from dead?

[fast dawn]

the reviver hive works differently in Descent? I always thought it goes to CD after being revived once

[toxic cradle]

What is descent?? I’ve redownloaded the game

[grizzled briar]

those shop in middile loop u can buy ammo and other things

[toxic cradle]

No1 gonna explain niceee

[nova comet]

Descent is a roguelike mode introduces this season.

You also only waited a minute. Have some patience.

[fast dawn]

chill bro, its a new roguelike experience in Division 2

[toxic cradle]

How am I meant to know anything if I’ve just redownloaded n there was like 4 ppl speaking

[pine siren]

Google?

[nova comet]

Usually people ask and wait more than a single minute

[pine siren]

Or just try and find out for yourself

[toxic cradle]

Why would I Google if I’m in a server with ppl who will explain it

[grizzled briar]

by defult u have 1 revive kit , if u use it (dosent matter revive hive or use it for friend )u have to buy revive kit for next revive , if u revive from dead

[desert pond]

sorry for sounding like a prick but its called rougelite

[hidden idol]

alright, Descent is a rougelite

[desert pond]

one has permanent buffs carried across runs, the other foesnt

[nova comet]

Roguelikes are named after Rogue. Roguelites just introduce a progression system. I am not wrong for calling it a roguelike, as it is both- Roguelike as a genre, roguelite if you'd like to be pedantic.

[desert pond]

fair enough

[grizzled briar]

its like something survival and resistance in div 1

[toxic cradle]

I didn’t play div1

So no idea

[desert pond]

you lose all your hear, run through rooms you chose and pick upgrades/weapons along the way

[fast dawn]

oh yeah what are Incursions for the next season? Is it like another raid?

[nova comet]

start with nothing, go room to room and get talents or weapons, try to get as far as possible.

[toxic cradle]

Ahhh ok that makes more sense

[hidden idol]

Lose everything on death except NSA currency (or something), which you use it to buy minor upgrades

[toxic cradle]

So it’s just a endless loop until u all die?

[hidden idol]

pretty much

[toxic cradle]

It give good loot thou?

[nova comet]

Sounds worse than it is. I've heard it can be quite fun

[hidden idol]

You would have to play for yourself to have a opinion tho.

[grizzled briar]

not good for loot

[raven lagoon]

it can be enjoyable, wouldn't really suggest healthwise playing it for 12hrs striaght but hey....

[fast dawn]

did they ban the ppl that got to 100K SHD cus of the Descent exploit?

[toxic cradle]

So what’s good for grinding exotics now?

[hidden idol]

probably Countdown?

[gentle briar]

they're looking into it

[toxic cradle]

I used to do that n I’d barely get any drops

Was looking for cathrsis I think n the backpack what gives 1 to all the sets

[fast dawn]

use countdoown requistion points to buy exotic cache

[toxic cradle]

Ye it never gives me anything I need from them

[fast dawn]

ye RNG

[nova comet]

How many times did you run it

[toxic cradle]

Alot

[nova comet]

i somehow doubt that

[fast dawn]

how much is a lot, 10 can be "a lot" to some.

[toxic cradle]

Like I’d play with another guy n we would run it atleast 10times

Daily

[hidden idol]

Countdown gives a lot of loot, but I think I only got 2 or 3 exotics in about 6-8 runs

[toxic cradle]

For like 2 weeks

[hidden idol]

not sure, my memory is not great

[nova comet]

yeah you get a lot of drops, maybe not many you want but definitely some

[fast dawn]

ye youre still at the mercy of RNG

[toxic cradle]

Indeed rng on this game is ass for me

[fast dawn]

have you pray to Jesus about it? /s

[toxic cradle]

Wanted boomerang on a rifle I have n I couldn’t find it for two weeks

N I gurantee now that I’m back I won’t

[desert pond]

if youre trying to grind loot then dont play descent

its a really fun and different mode but its pretty ass with loot tbf

speaking of which, i shall start another 20+ run

[ionic plover]

Nope

[twin geyser]

So their "super powerful" cheaters tracker is another joke?

[pine siren]

Give them time, it'll be funnier if they get rolled back after putting another week or two of time in

[ionic plover]

And even funnier if nothing happens ... after those 2 weeks

[brittle blaze]

they will cuz they rolled back people that used the mini gun glitch

[fast dawn]

what's the minigun glitch?

[ionic plover]

Love your profile pic 🤣

[rain spruce]

An exploit from forever ago.

[river sapphire]

I play once a day just for the satisfying +20 SHD levels after every run when i come out 😂

[brittle blaze]

thanks i got others

[brittle blaze]

there was a glitch back in the day wer u could u use ur shield and get the damage of the mini gun

[cyan fox]

Every yter and their mother covered it

That and the shooting range farm

[brittle blaze]

and rolled back a lot of people even a few people i know

didnt take them like 3 weeks to roll everyone back on the last glitch

[blazing fractal]

Assuming they fixed it first (yesterday) and then will scrub out those that used it.

[pine siren]

Last time they had a large and competent dev team and weren't also competing with a bunch of other priorities (failed apparel roll out, missing apparel keys, bugged activities etc)

[desert pond]

and i play it once a day to see how far i can go

[brittle blaze]

your also right they had bigger team that wasnt cut by 3/4 to go work on a game that looks like another fail lol

[cyan fox]

I play it once a week for the comms for beating the nemesis lol

[runic path]

So what’s is decent excatly and what do i need to buy to play it

[jolly cave]

The name is on the channel and people still somehow misspell it.
Descent is a rogue-lite game mode where you die and restart in the mode, but you get upgrades over time.

[long compass]

Well we know that rikers and black tusk are not only, but the outcasts are annoying too with their heavy weapons, the rushers using kamikaze bomb and the controllers using kart with saws

[desert pond]

that quest is bugged rn and you get an exotic every time you kill the nemesis

lmao

[shrewd flame]

You can play it with just the base game

[twin geyser]

Any rumours \ leaks \ info about other permanent upgrades? What we have now is not enough 🙂

[river sapphire]

no clue why they wouldnt have made the addition of weekly gear that rotates and caches in the permanent descent vendor itself on release/conception

adding more collectibles and achievements per loop, appareal in the nemesis loot pool, patches, save points before nemesis completion, etc seemed like common sense to attract players to a new mode, maybe i should be on the PTS

[river sapphire]

I'd keep that feature, or at the very least make it to where after loop 7, one is 100% from nemesis encounter

making speedruns pointless

[jolly cave]

I'd keep an eye on official info sources, since anything else is just speculation.

[twin geyser]

[raven lagoon]

I'd be down for some descent themed apparel for sale, still say the suits remind me of div1 apparel sorta.

[river sapphire]

so much green/black/grey/white they can take advantage of

mostly green and black of course

just confused why they backtracked with this permanent vendor, and could've fleshed it out like the countdown one and made it the best gamemode

[raven lagoon]

I will be happy when they fix the arm patch in descent, it's been bugging the shit outta me since i noticed it....

WARNING: Once you see, you can't unsee. The armpatch on agents during descent isn't aligned correctly and is up and off to one side....completely cutting the patch in half. (texture issue)

[runic path]

Why the F did u just tell me this my whole life is ruined now

[raven lagoon]

lol

[runic path]

@raven lagoon wanna play tonight or when ever you’re free

[raven lagoon]

god knows when I'll be off work, but I'm always around. hit me up in like....5-6 hours, lol.

[runic path]

Got u

[rotund mountain]

anyone down for some decent been looking for online lobby for20 mins

never mind got into one hopefully its a good run

never mind glitched out

[balmy finch]

f

[ionic plover]

Yeah playstation been dead asf since last 3 days for descent lol

[desert pond]

probably because it keeps bugging out etc

[river sapphire]

Also solo is more enjoyable and faster for me, coming from someone who does duos and squads just as much

Duos is really cool too, scaling isnt bad

[obtuse flint]

I agree. I think it’s just that solo is more enjoyable. I’ve tried multiple 4 man groups and it’s not working. Just died loop 4

I’m someone who exclusively played division in a group prior to descent but I’m leaning to only playing that solo

[river sapphire]

with squads it sucks right now because if you dont kill as much enemies and or die instantly youre setting your team back

compared to solo you have the mindset of okay its me and me alone and several other factors, but eventually unless you have friends/clans/etc i think it'll be majority of players running it solo, after all its hard for 2+ people to dedicate 2+ hours each

[obtuse flint]

That last part. I’m always shook that people have managed to play 8 hours as a group of 4.

[river sapphire]

then you get into timezones and what time of day youre running it just a lot of factors

[obtuse flint]

I anxiety pee wayyyy too much for that

[river sapphire]

its more of a leaderboard to flex thing, or they were abusing the xp glitch, the only 2 reasons

one or the other 100%

[obtuse flint]

To be fair, I am also leaderboard flexing

[river sapphire]

After loops 15-20, there is literally 0 point, the game doesnt reward you anymore

[obtuse flint]

Just much easier to take breaks on your own

[river sapphire]

my 17 loop run was 3 hours and i thought i was big shit, so i can only imagine people that have better attention spands and more time

[obtuse flint]

I’m not sure what the equivalent is on pc, but with a rubber band on a controller, you can take breaks for 2 hours at a time and come back to it

[desert pond]

well they have macros

[river sapphire]

yeah can just W S A D around forever

[obtuse flint]

I sat outside, watched tv, cooked or washed dishes every 5 loops

[desert pond]

i wish i could sadge

[river sapphire]

of course, then if you have a mini fridge in your room, bathroom, no pets or family, etc

[obtuse flint]

Unlike @desert pond I don’t crash lol

[desert pond]

im on the top 25 tho which is quite sad tbh

[river sapphire]

if you have no life you are well equipped

[desert pond]

with 18 loops

well i currently dont

[obtuse flint]

I’m confused. Whatcha mean?

[desert pond]

but the game keeps DCing me around 15

[river sapphire]

If you had a mini fridge for example in your room, you wouldnt need to leave it for food/water, my room used to have a bathroom so its closer, no pets or family = no responsibility to look after, just more time commitment for the game is all im sayin

[desert pond]

i mean you have all the time in the world

you can go and do stuff for hours if you want

[obtuse flint]

For clarity, I’ve had two long runs, 29 and 35 and for both of them, I had time to cook and clean and take care of my dog

On the loop 35 run, I watched 3 episodes of SpongeBob in my bed and hung out with my friend on FaceTime lol

[river sapphire]

My laptop has facial recognition that doesnt turn off from the windows settings so it closes when i get up instantly, so even then that stuff wouldnt help me

[desert pond]

well thats a setting you can probably change

[obtuse flint]

But to be fair, I can no life as much as I want, because I remain without child, I’m a student and I live alone

[river sapphire]

nope i did some research, its with windows 11, pretty stupid actually, it disabled my finger print reader too

[desert pond]

lmao

just do the 8h run in one go ig

[obtuse flint]

Lol

[river sapphire]

how is a finger print reader available with windows 10 but windows 11 after what 3 years now still doesnt work?

[desert pond]

and hope the game doesnt die on you

[river sapphire]

some baby back bs

[obtuse flint]

I still think you just need to make a sacrifice to the RNG gods. Maybe if you put a controller in a bonfire 😂

[river sapphire]

thats what im thinking honestly though, like loop 35-40 in 8 hours

[desert pond]

my rng is cracked tho

[river sapphire]

i think i could peak at 9 hrs

[desert pond]

i literally had all the perks i wanted by loop 8

[obtuse flint]

Hm, I guess to your ISP then

[desert pond]

loop 14 and i was slayin

[desert pond]

cant be tho

everything works

hell, even the music on my ps keeps going

[obtuse flint]

Ps5 or 4?

[desert pond]

its just the game that randomly decides it doesnt have internet

5

[obtuse flint]

Well nvm I knew that cause of Warlander

[desert pond]

yuh

[obtuse flint]

I keep DC’ing from that game

Never division

[desert pond]

thats normal

lmao

or at least it was until the last update

seems to have stopped

[obtuse flint]

Ooo, I’ll continue the convo about that in DMs

Not trying to be reprimanded. I’m sensitive 🙈

😂

[ionic plover]

Are you on ps4 ?

[maiden canyon]

Why do armor kits not work when you use them?

[obtuse flint]

Bug in descent

[maiden canyon]

Wasn't fixed with the recent update?

[cyan fox]

Lol welcome to the division

[twin geyser]

There are plenty of them, not being fixed. But high priority for devs is DZ double chest opening, because players benefit from it

[sick hare]

Why oh why do we have to wait 10+ seconds at the end of Descent, and why oh why can't we, after that, just restart it, rather than having to travel to DC? ....or have I missed sth obvious?

[dusty hawk]

missing nothing, it's pretty annoying isn't it?

[sick hare]

Absolutely - it seems so pointless too.

[gloomy pulsar]

So...what exactly does doctor home do for descent?

[dusty hawk]

the same it does in normal, just all weapons does it

you kill something, if you have missing armor you get armor kit instantly applied to you and probably your allies you went in with

[gloomy pulsar]

Is it actually any good? I used it before and barely got any benefit from it

[dusty hawk]

no clue, think i tried it once when i was trying to figure descent out in general. anytime i see it i get other exotic choices that seems more enticing to me over getting doctor home

[twin geyser]

Is "Adaptive instinct" bugged in descent? The loop you picked it - it works. The next one - all visual indicators disappear and I don't see dmg numbers increase at all

[dusty hawk]

no clue, i don't think i ever get either of them filled up entirely to want to use it

[ionic plover]

Nothing after 5 hours run ubisoft was like
Add 15 seconds more just to top it off

[maiden canyon]

It does. I hit headshots and legshots and get the crit chance and damage and reload speed

Damage is so variable I'm not sure if i get the torso buff or not

But I assume you do since you get the leg and head buff

[twin geyser]

Which weapon is the best to cheese Plague ticks? MMR?

[maiden canyon]

M870 express has more base dmg than any mmr right?

[twin geyser]

Does tick dmg apply per pellet?

[maiden canyon]

Yes

Super 90 to proc it faster

[pine siren]

Plague seems based off pellet damage to me (but stacks per pellet)

[maiden canyon]

M870 to make use of the ticks

[pine siren]

I use pistol for higher base damage to save needing an mmr (weapon slot useful for something else)

[twin geyser]

The more you play - the more you learn 👍

[dusty hawk]

pretty much how i see it

anyone have a clue how to get more than 1 exotic talent?

[hexed dome]

You get them randomly

There's an upgrade at the NSA station for a higher chance

Like, the first is guaranteed, the rest is RNG

[pine siren]

There was in the pts, doesn't seem to be there any more now

[cyan fox]

It's a chance after the first one
Someone said here they got 3 straight exotic talents lol
Others went 6 loops without one

[twin geyser]

A week ago, we got 5 exotic talents in 5 loops in a row (loops 10-14). Of course, 4 times we had trash talents 🙂

[hexed dome]

I am pretty sure I bought it for myself

I remember there was some upgrade that mentioned exotics

[gloomy pulsar]

I'm pretty sure there was an upgrade that gave you another choice of a talent at the end of rounds, but I'm not sure if I read it wrong, or maybe that only at the round start, but it was a permanent upgrade

[cyan fox]

It's at the end of every room you get a random extra 4th talent to choose from

[dusty hawk]

there is a permanent perk for getting a random talent at the start and a 4th talent choice from each talent stations

[gloomy pulsar]

^

Got both, should probably get all the defensive perm upgrades before the others

[dusty hawk]

i went the dumb route and got them both plus 2 in decent currency gain

[gloomy pulsar]

It does seem like a no brainer though to go for the currency gains

In the end, I don't like being one shot by suiciders

[pine siren]

Funny, I consider the currency gains the last thing I'd go for: unless you're constantly rerolling talents you'll always end up with way more currency than you need

[twin geyser]

I'd like to stack + reroll exo talents just like normal ones

[gloomy pulsar]

Same, I feel that'd be a pretty fun thing to do, maybe it costs more currency to reroll them

[hexed dome]

Oh, you can't upgrade exo talents?

Never got the same ones to drop so far, I assumed you could tho

[grizzled briar]

exotic talent cant be upgrade
u can change with another exotic talent

[twin geyser]

Would be a shame, if they drop support for descent like College Kenly 💀

[raven lagoon]

into the void with yeee! yeets gamemodes support

[lunar vine]

Is there a working strategy to defeat the nemesis in a group of four? Solo it's doable, but with more players I had no luck so far.

[raven lagoon]

everyone grab fire ammo (preferably on pistol), foam launcher, etc., CC them, try to burst them down one by one.... (i've only been in a group of 3 max so far and it wasn't bad)

[hidden idol]

biggest problem is when teammates has turret or drone (or both), and no one has a jammer

[lunar vine]

I guess I start with two players first. We got pushed and died in seconds. But we also had the wrong skills with us.

[raven lagoon]

it just took coordination and not everyone just focusing on individual nemesis, but trying to eliminate them one by one.

yeah, your choice of skills can play a huge part if the nemesis clone your skills and u start getting turrets, drones, and oxidizers and shit thrown at you.

[lunar vine]

Yes, the oxi did almost one shot us. Yesterday solo with shock traps it was no problem.

[hidden idol]

I just hate the fact that the firefly sometimes just decides to not work

You throw it after deciding the targets, and it just explodes as if you didn't target anyone

[raven lagoon]

ya, that's pretty common with it honestly

[rich karma]

Do you guys also have the same weapons over and over again? I never saw like super 90, sig556 or other weapons

[desert pond]

i get all kinds of weapons

usually every single one besides the two i want lmao

[hexed dome]

Seen plenty of S90s

Used it on my best run, actually haha

[desert pond]

how far have yall gotten thus far?

whats your highest solo loop

[cyan fox]

Loop 20
Someone threw one of those grenades that detonates when you step on its radius
And it shocked me.... Right in front of a hyena heavy

[desert pond]

yikes

[cyan fox]

Wasn't that mad tbh
My goal was loop 20 and the run was at 5 hours already

[desert pond]

im trying my best to go past 30 but i cant

keep DCing around 12-15 and the one time i got to 18 i died by being stupid

[lucid lark]

Really love how nemesis just manages to do so much damage to you with skills

[hexed dome]

Damn, how'd it take so long?

I got to 16 in 2.5hrs

[cyan fox]

It was one of my first runs

In the mode itself

[shadow wigeon]

How do you even beat the Nemesis? They're like turbocharged hunters

[obtuse flint]

Cheese with special ammo

https://imgur.com/a/acS6APM

[shadow wigeon]

Oof. I always feel like if there's no way to beat it except cheese, the boss is overtuned

[obtuse flint]

Tbh, I imagine now with all the NSA tech upgrades, I could beat him just fine without the special ammo. The protection from elites that you get does really reduce how much he hits.

I might try later to humor myself. Gonna still run L1 trauma and clutch if I get pinched

[pine siren]

trauma definitely helps, I've killed him a couple of times without special ammo

[cyan fox]

Anything that stuns his ass changes things

[unique rapids]

Just beat nemisis and made it past loop 7 and no rewards from the project anyone else have this issue?

[raven lagoon]

u can confirm via your cache tab in inventory no rewards? or solely going off project not completing? (just curious, as sometimes the project just doesn't get ticked off as complete)

[unique rapids]

I checked toon inventory stash box mail box apperal inventory for patches I got nothing

even the project says I didnt complete it lol

[raven lagoon]

and obv no NEW audio comm under collectibles > comms > descent correct?

[unique rapids]

nothing

[raven lagoon]

oof 😢 ok, I got nothing to say to that then. sry

[grizzled briar]

i have 3 audio for decent

there is a bug at arena , we dident kill the boss but we was able to choose stats

[raven lagoon]

that would be correct number of audio comms atleast IIRC. pretty sure I got 3 as well and caught up on them....

[grizzled briar]

i played with 3 character i dont know how much in other character i have

[raven lagoon]

the audio isn't shared so shouldn't be an issue regardless. each character can complete the project and collect their own comm.

[grizzled briar]

it 3 in 2 character and 2 in last character

[raven lagoon]

got my main has 3 comms, but my HC I only got 2 so far (haven't completed this weeks run on HC)

[grizzled briar]

what if u crash with HC character?

[raven lagoon]

unless the code hiccups u don't (usually) die due to crashes on HC. most of the time people die due to crashing while in a fight, but I ahve heard of a few people coming back to dead characters after a crash while in a safe area....

i've crashed a few times on my HC dude before, still alive....

[grizzled briar]

i lost 3 HC character to crash

[raven lagoon]

OOF, definitely not good rng there. sorry to hear that

[grizzled briar]

i am not going to make it again

how many arms patch we can get from decent?

[raven lagoon]

should be 4 I think

1 basic nem patch, then a tier 1, 2, and 3 patch IIRC.

[grizzled briar]

i have 1 for nemisis , 1 for loop10 , 1 for loop 20

[cyan fox]

Tier 1 2 3 4

[raven lagoon]

I know it goes up to loop 40 IIRC. didn't think I had a loop 10 one but possible (would have to check, I know I've reached loop 10, not completed it tho) so maybe it didn't count

[grizzled briar]

it says for completing the loop

[raven lagoon]

yup, makes sense then

that's why I didn't think of the 5th patch then. didn't get it cause I never finished it. XD oof

[grizzled briar]

12 hours for 1 arm patch😧

[raven lagoon]

patch could've been better....

but assuming they're offering them each season otherwise they shouldn't have put the "broke wings" text on it

[jolly cave]

Arm Patches are the one thing in div2 that I don't mind taking 500 hours to get.
they're pure decoration and only for the most insane of us.

[raven lagoon]

so with that text i'm assuming it's a reward each season, slight variation maybe

[grizzled briar]

wow

[raven lagoon]

and yeah, definitely makes sense Rivens

[obtuse flint]

Classic M60 vs M249? Which one do you think is better?

[jolly cave]

@ocean ember You're looking for #lfg-xbox to LFG for Descent. GL Agent,

[obtuse flint]

Is allegro paired with incessant chatter overkill?

[hidden idol]

Probably. But it is fun

[desert pond]

yes

fun fact, chatter carries across loops

you can technically get max stacks once and never bother again

[obtuse flint]

Yeah I’m realizing so I got rid of allegro. Thanks

[obtuse flint]

Dear god, rogues are something else. Just ended my loop 26 run after 3 rooms back to back of rogues

[gloomy pulsar]

Did a run with the model 700, some rooms made it sound like an AWP

[desert pond]

well boys wish me luck

im on floor 23 so shit will soon hit the fan

[static parrot]

My last run I tried the M700, I thought the same thing

Also, that thing slaps

[gloomy pulsar]

It does, especially when you have unhinged on the low levels

Made that thing rise to 7 before I got braced or that stability stacking one

[rustic bough]

if only we had Backfire's talent

[static parrot]

If you had Backfire's talent you'd just die

[chrome briar]

Armor on kill preservation bloodsucker

Ez

[obtuse flint]

Don’t forget clutch!

[chrome briar]

I forgot that was a talent in descent

Yeah and clutch

[pine siren]

Combine with bullet hell for no reload, so no bleed

[nova comet]

backfire talent my beloved

[twin geyser]

Which are your favourite picks for exo talents?
I'm using chatter + bloodsucker + agonizing bite. Would like to hear your thoughts

[chrome briar]

Bullet hell breathe free and blood sucker

In general bullet hell just makes things fun imo but I would also go with agonizing bite

[static parrot]

bullet hell, plague of the outcasts are my 2 favs

breathe free as an addition

Havent been lucky enough to get all 3 yet

[hexed dome]

Plague of the Outcasts, Breathe Free, Agonizing Bite

Might start using Bloodsucker instead of Plague since Breathe Free with Rifle/Shotgun combo is OP so I'm not applying a lot of stacks for the DoT

[twin geyser]

I'm just thinking to swap into run'n'gun style and I understand that without Bullet Hell + Breathe Free + Bloodsucker I'm not gonna make it at all

[hexed dome]

Breathe Free, Preservation, shotgun

It is all you need

Allegro and Extra are super good to have

I had max Optimist, Allegro, Preservation and Extra on my best run

Literally turned Descent into easy modw

[twin geyser]

Leadership is so good before the fight, combined with Ad. rush

You're at 200%+ armor so enemies have some hard time, trying to put your blue armor down

[ionic plover]

Yup leadership is actually clutch
Recently started using it

[desert pond]

you should try chatter instead of bullet hell

its so much better its crazy

[twin geyser]

but not on rogues \ bosses

[desert pond]

bosses dissappear in 5s so it still works

and your reload speed will be instant anyway

[twin geyser]

after some loops - yes, on first - no 🙂

[desert pond]

thats fair enough

you should try it out sometime

toss fast hands t3 on it

[twin geyser]

I did, nice and fun, but with allegro x10 it's too fast xD

[desert pond]

yea dont use allegro woth chatter lmao

[pine siren]

get chatterbox, get max stacks, THEN get bullet hell - and you'll never lose those chatterbox stacks again (and still ge tthe ammo regen bonus)

[desert pond]

thats just unnecessary

[desert pond]

thats a late late game strat but yes

and it'll most likely get fixed lol

[twin geyser]

why should it? Power fantasies 🙂

[desert pond]

probably because its weird that you can have all the benefits from a perk without even having it equipped lmfao

[upper smelt]

You still have it equipped, you can have 3 exotic talents

[desert pond]

wait did they fix it already?

before the update you could literally replace chatter with bullet hell and youd keep the stacks

[pine siren]

didn't know that, I guess you don't keep the ammo regen though?

[desert pond]

there is no ammo regen on chatter

[pine siren]

...yeah there is

refill half your mag on kill

[desert pond]

ooooh you mean that

[pine siren]

in most cases it's enough to mean you never have to buy ammo

[desert pond]

well it was meaningless since bullet hell removes mags anyway

and it gives ya some ammo too

[pine siren]

you can still run out of ammo quite easily with bullet hell, it doesn't seem to give any ammo back as far as I can tell

(same with the steady handed talent)

[desert pond]

it does, just not a lot

[balmy finch]

i think it gives back your mag cap

so if you have +10 extra and +10 lucky shot then itll give a fair amoutn

[pine siren]

I guess I need to test with a large mag lmg then, if you have to hit 100 shots just to get your 8-round shotgun mag back then it's pretty pointless

[desert pond]

bullet hell doesnt give you much ammo eother

thats why chatter is just superior

[balmy finch]

BH is better for no reload

[desert pond]

you never have to reload with chatter aswell

[balmy finch]

thats only if you chain kills

[desert pond]

unless you get rogues

what else are you doing?

[balmy finch]

theres such a thing as not getting a kill with one mag

[pine siren]

m870 + breathe free and those situations are very few and far between

[desert pond]

dude how

[balmy finch]

lmao

[desert pond]

with an lmg

genuine question

how do you not kill something in one mag

again, excluding rogues

[balmy finch]

just about the first 10 floors

[desert pond]

nah you most definitely kill stuff in one mag there

[balmy finch]

lmao no

[desert pond]

so youre telling me a random basic cannot be killed in 100 shots???

[balmy finch]

you cant call every enemy a "random basic"

[desert pond]

for me a random basic is everything without a golden hp bar

[balmy finch]

so non-elite

[desert pond]

aka everything but elites

and they definitely die in one mag

[balmy finch]

also keep in mind missing shots is a thing

[desert pond]

oh and also, losing your stacks isnt too bad eother because of how easy it is to get em back

[desert pond]

dude

i understand that and all

but 100 shots and you cant kill something?

[balmy finch]

later on yes thats a thing

[desert pond]

when

[balmy finch]

when youre playing from behind cover at distance

whats the highest floor youve gotten to

[desert pond]

also later on you should have far more than 100 ammo

[desert pond]

25

[balmy finch]

once you get past there you really do have to play at range

[desert pond]

couldve gone farther but i fumbled

well i did play at range

its just that i laserbeam whatever diamondback marks from across the room

consistently mind you

[balmy finch]

with an lmg..?

[desert pond]

yea lmao

steady hands

[balmy finch]

ah

but steady hands runs out doesnt it

[desert pond]

i hit like 4 shots and it starts working again

[balmy finch]

?

[desert pond]

after 4 shots you get 40% accuracy which is good enough to start beaming again

[balmy finch]

ah ive never stacked multiple steady hands

[desert pond]

i really dont recommend it unless youre running unhinged

and dont bother leveling it past 3 until loop 20ish

it doesnt even need to give me the full 100% accuracy

20-40ish is more than enough to get a tight reticle

and since i can control the recoil well enough i get to snipe people across rooms

[balmy finch]

is unhinged twd because the description doesnt say it is

[desert pond]

whats twd

[balmy finch]

total weapon damage

[desert pond]

no idea

it does feel like ots doing way more than other perks tho

even at t4

[balmy finch]

it shouldnt be

[desert pond]

just grab a shotty, unhinged and see for yourself

at the beginning you arent going to onetap anything

[balmy finch]

i noticved nothing

[desert pond]

put unhinged on and all of the sudden you can

it might be placebo tbh

lmao

[balmy finch]

maybe

[desert pond]

i havent done a single run without it so idk

[ionic plover]

Yes unhinged works pretty well

[desert pond]

im just so used to it

[balmy finch]

ive done plenty

[balmy finch]

but isnt it only awd

[desert pond]

@balmy finch do you have any footage of your runs?

[balmy finch]

i dont record

[desert pond]

damn

id love to compare myself to others

[balmy finch]

tis a pain in the ass

[desert pond]

playstyle wise

[desert pond]

wym

[balmy finch]

to record

[desert pond]

just hit record n play

lmao

[balmy finch]

nah theres a lot of tinkering with settings

like bitrate and whatnot

[desert pond]

aaaah fair

i usually just start a stream on random floors

so i can watch it back later

[ionic plover]

Only playstation is record and play lol

[balmy finch]

pretty much

becase on pc you have various recorders and resolutions

not recorders uih

encoders

i like vindictive/trauma combo tho

[desert pond]

its crazy

but redundant if you run diamondback

[balmy finch]

Yeah but I don't like diamondback because it requires shooting a specific enemy

And only lasts 2 seconds

[desert pond]

"only"

thats enough to kill a couple enemies

[balmy finch]

Not at 30+ lol

[desert pond]

at 25 it worked

dunno about higher ones

the reason i chose it is bc chameleon is unreliable

[balmy finch]

I got to 33, diamondback because a crutch

[desert pond]

its a massive one ngl

helps to delete dogs aswell

[balmy finch]

became a crutch* my bad

well i misworded that

it became a handicap

[desert pond]

it depends tbh

[balmy finch]

no it did become a handicap

[desert pond]

if you run after the mark like a headless chicken sure

[balmy finch]

it got to the point i was doing fuck all damage without it

[desert pond]

oh yea definitely

i felt that at 25 alr

but whenever i swap to a doff perk it just does fuck all overall lmao

[balmy finch]

tbh im gonna try GC at later levels

[desert pond]

dont

its suicide

[balmy finch]

mate you literally get 1-shot by snipers

[desert pond]

i know

[balmy finch]

even with 500% bonus armour you only survive like 5 shots

hell even 1000%

[desert pond]

its only 30% tho

no shot its worth

[balmy finch]

its an amp tho

[desert pond]

whats that

im like very new to the game so idk what amy of those terms mean lmfao

also, are to drop your build?

i like to try new things

[short orbit]

Hey, do we know how to farm reconstructed Caches?

[raven lagoon]

yup, clear nem repetedly (low chance at earning one) or get passed loop 30 for an ok chance (each loop clear) at earning one really

[hallow fable]

isnt it loop 40?

[raven lagoon]

from what I've read/seen it's every loop clear on and after loop 31

but it's still a percentage chance tho

[hallow fable]

yep, actually still think its waste of time imo

[raven lagoon]

no guarantee for one

that's why I mostly just do nem clears for fun, if i get one yay, if I don't meh..

[hallow fable]

yyeah, nem clear yeah, but higher loops, man

[desert pond]

its past 30 aswell

takes hours to even get there

[naive glen]

anyone trying to duo or LFG for descent psn ?

[desert pond]

@naive glen how many hours are you willing to play for in one go

[naive glen]

all day today but with breakfast and dinner breaks and such

[crude jetty]

anyone up for some descent pc

[desert pond]

are you eu or na

[naive glen]

na

[desert pond]

aaaah rip

[ionic plover]

It doesn't lag much

I play on Asian but have played with na players aswell

[spark nexus]

Guys I have side mission in castle to talk to wally,but no wally on place, this is side mission regarding the descent

[balmy finch]

Are you level 30 or 40

[spark nexus]

40

[balmy finch]

Should be left side of the fast travel point

[spark nexus]

Yeah will restart the game

[pine siren]

woo, finished loop 16 and finally got my 3rd exotic talent

[obtuse flint]

That’s some rough RNG

[pine siren]

yeah it's been a weird run so far, I just stuck to easy rooms because I only really wanted to get to Nemesis quickly (didn't even get my 2nd exotic talent by then), but then kept on going because why not and somehow just haven't died yet. Still no sign of black tusk, and I only saw hyenas for the first time on loop 16

[obtuse flint]

Keep doing medium rooms! You can do that all the way to loop 25

Then the game will spam you with rogues 😂

[pine siren]

well, I still haven't done a single Hard room yet on this run, because why bother? Overflowing in credits, and knowing where the spawns are is really helpful

random bosses are the easiest, only one wave and the boss usually burns down in seconds once I get focused on him

[obtuse flint]

Yup! Random boss room is the wave

Kinda hilarious they made that accidentally easier than the regular rooms

[pine siren]

still waiting for 3 waves to start, this is further than I've got before (solo or not) and the scaling feels surprisingly easy so far

[obtuse flint]

Hmm I forgot when 3 waves started.

But it should remain this easy until 25. A recommendation:

Get leadership L10 before 25. It’s very helpful to fight rogues because you can be at double armor every 10 seconds just by cover to cover right next to you

[pine siren]

just got elites spawning now (including riker tanks) so that's the first difficulty spike in a while

[obtuse flint]

I died yesterday cause I got cocky and didn’t get around to getting leadership

[pine siren]

on lvl 6 leadership so far so not too bad

[obtuse flint]

Nice! Even L5 should be a big help

It’s always two rogue agents btw and often they come out the same door.

[pine siren]

noted, haven't encountered them yet

[obtuse flint]

So far it seems like they can only come out of hard rooms

[cyan fox]

Yea but you can't tell if it's a room with rogues
They'll just come out running

[obtuse flint]

Good point of clarification

[pine siren]

ah, so by conciously avoiding all hard rooms I'm also avoiding rogues? That might explain why I haven't encountered any yet

[mossy moon]

Guys i would need some help i don't know what i'm doing wrong i cant defeat the nemis tryed alone or in group always fail. Max loop i had is only 8

[obtuse flint]

Yes although there is rumor of rogues on medium

[cyan fox]

I got rogues on loop 13 once

I'm surprised they don't Spawn hunters at you the further you go tbh

Kinda like resistance in div 1

[balmy finch]

Who knows they might xD

[obtuse flint]

Loop 50

[balmy finch]

?

[obtuse flint]

Maybe 😂

[balmy finch]

After 25 you'll be forced into all hard iirc

[cyan fox]

I have not seen a single clip of anyone fighting hunters in descent

[balmy finch]

Loop 100 be like

[obtuse flint]

Ah right. I forgot PC is already crazy high in the leaderboard

41 is highest on PSN

[balmy finch]

I'm joking lol my highest is 33

[cyan fox]

That might be where they Spawn tbh

Just a waiting game

[balmy finch]

Lol

[pine siren]

ok yeah got ganked by BT on loop 17 in the end 😦

[cyan fox]

What's the highest rn loop on the leaderboard

[balmy finch]

At least 5

[cyan fox]

🤓

[pine siren]

solo: 130, group: 141

[obtuse flint]

Are the next highest close after that?

[pine siren]

(it's the same person in both cases)

next highest solo 113 group 77

[balmy finch]

Not bad

I feel bad for their sleep schedules though

[cyan fox]

OK so I doubt there's hunters unless they are one a stupid low chance
And 2 a high ass loop after 200

LOOP 500 HUNTERS

[balmy finch]

Loop 1000 when

[pine siren]

they've probably got the entire process automated by now

[balmy finch]

You can't automate it

I'd be super impressed if you could because that would involve some pretty intelligent ai

[obtuse flint]

I feel like I could get away with rubber banding my controller for a 6 hour sleep

[balmy finch]

Takes way more than that

[raven lagoon]

imagine being on console and actually being able to idle in game for 6 hours without possibility of a crash while sleeping. 🥹

[balmy finch]

Lol

[obtuse flint]

I know. When I do my loops, I take at least a 30 min break every 5 loops. I cooked a whole meal and did laundry yesterday between 20 and 21

Which is why I spent 13 hours on a loop 35 run

[raven lagoon]

if this was gta, i could sit there an idle for hours....no issues....but this Div. if I blink the wrong way, or game gets the hint that I'm walkin away it'll stab me in the back and crash (but u know it wouldn't crash if I was still at pc that entire time)

I'd be like, I gotta go bathroom break, and ISAC is all, "I can't let you do that Dave...."

[obtuse flint]

😂 yeah that’s rough

Excluding countdown, I think I crash once a month tops.

[balmy finch]

Including countdown I think I crash once every two months

[raven lagoon]

I crash out of base game once every few days....it's not bad.

[obtuse flint]

I remember the end of the season before last when you got guaranteed crash for hovering over countdown 😂

Exciting times

[pine siren]

or the marauder drones who would delta you constantly

[dusty hawk]

do you guys go the easy rooms to get to the nemesis as quickly as possible?

[raven lagoon]

if u want to get to Nem asap, yes, it'll add to the nem heat faster. just be aware you'll have less opportunity to gear up going that route.

[cyan fox]

In solo it's not that big of a deal selecting easy rooms cuz the difficulty is pretty easy

In groups you definitely wanna take more hard than easy rooms

[raven lagoon]

ya, it's usually not an issue. I tend to bounce between easy/med depending on the talent choice distribution but don't usually go hard solo unless it's a boss room....which is practically an easy room anyways.

[balmy finch]

i go all easy regardless of grtoup size

[novel flare]

Has the glitch been patched ?

Asking for a friend 👀

[raven lagoon]

the xp glitch? yes, should be all patched and gone, and last I heard had a fun little bonus for those that try to do it going forward.

[novel flare]

Dammmm was going to do it but okay

[obtuse flint]

Lol

[balmy finch]

did... did you expect to genuinely get away with it lmfao

[static parrot]

Not sure why you would want to openly just say you were planning on using an exploit, strange move

[balmy finch]

i mean, did you see lfg when it was around xD

[obtuse flint]

I got a boomstick out of a reconstructed cache 🙄

[balmy finch]

lol

better than my quiet roar

[ionic plover]

What was that bonus again ?

[jolly cave]

First offence is a 2 week ban, repeat offences are permanent account lockout.

[ionic plover]

Did the bans happen tho
Is the real question

[jolly cave]

At least some 2 week ones did, I assume most players stopped doing it after that.

[gloomy pulsar]

How do machine guns stack up in descent?