#td2-descent

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raven lagoon
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then they can just rework how the xp is calculated, then re-enable invites if they really wanted to shrug

brave bridge
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heys guys any a solid team that can run and finish Nemesis? I really want to finish the weekly mission (our last try right before nemesis game crashed and we lost it and rage quit lol)

grizzled briar
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solo is easier than group

open cape
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i didnt have that experience solo

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but i just started playing it. im learning the ropes and the rooms

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all i want is a bunch of allegro, vigilance, incessant chatter, extra, lucky shot, bullet hell and a sasg shotty

grizzled briar
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i usually have 2 or 3 exotic talent before nemesis

open cape
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plague is good too

grizzled briar
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chatterbox talent help to save ammo

open cape
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yeah i had it with an mpx and it was really nice

grizzled briar
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i choose all armor for state and mostly red talent for dps some blue and yellow

open cape
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yeah that seems like a solid strategy

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i like preservation and clutch tho

grizzled briar
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i cant send screenshot here

open cape
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and the haz pro one is a big help eventually

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insulated

grizzled briar
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i will choose haz pro after nemesis

open cape
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and adrenaline rush.. rushers try to hug you and explode and it does no damage

grizzled briar
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diamondback talent with cluch is good also

open cape
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i havent tried the diamondback one yet

grizzled briar
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it let u keep clutch active

open cape
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oh sick

grizzled briar
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it saved me from nemesis he droped 2 sniper turret same time after i destroy that 2 he droped another one

open cape
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maybe an emp skill would be good for that. its just ya dont need it early on

grizzled briar
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i choose decoy or foam or fire chem with hive if i can get them

open cape
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fire chem is handy

obtuse flint
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One of the reasons solo is so much easier is because you can just keep restarting until you get a good starting weapon/skill

open cape
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yeah thats what i do. totally worth it

grizzled briar
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yeah i also have that random talent

open cape
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ive been getting famas, police m4, sasg, super 90 and m870 a bunch. pretty good luck streak

astral anchor
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I think the best option is combine roles in team, play as a team, its 60% of win

brave bridge
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Anyone wants to do nemesis?

astral anchor
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our teammate was looking for crit chance for about 12 loops 😄 cause he had many talents with crit damage 😄 like I was looking for a shield for about 10 loops cause I had venguard level 8 😄

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so I just advice to take what game propose 😄

open cape
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how much crit chance can you get from buying the 1 or 2% or whatever from the vendor

astral anchor
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nice question, I dont remember

open cape
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i stack surgical if possible but i havent had a loadout where my weapon crits hardly

grizzled briar
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10% from vender

open cape
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damn. not enough

shrewd flame
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should work to nearly 60 that way

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55

grizzled briar
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10 % from vender and 50 from talnet at lvl 10

shrewd flame
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if it isn't they'd say otherwise

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armor on kill isn't cumulative for example

grizzled briar
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it will i think

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20 from vender and some from talent
i was getting full armor by getting 2 kill

shrewd flame
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also glass cannon will get slightly nerfed

grizzled briar
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just 5 %

shrewd flame
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damage taken 50, damage increase 30

grizzled briar
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i dont anyone use that

open cape
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yea im not messing with glass cannon

grizzled briar
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its kinda reckless talent from div1

cyan fox
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U already get decimated by redbar snipers without glass Canon

heavy panther
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Can anyone carry me in Descent? 😂

open cape
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are you going to contribute or just hide

heavy panther
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Ofc I'll deal 'some' dmg 😗

open cape
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eh, unless you handle one of the spawn doors and clear most of them then were both gonna die lol

grizzled briar
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my back is fuked up ,i need some med bad

raven lagoon
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"I'll spew profanities at the enemy from afar" 🫠

open cape
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you gotta have major visible injury

astral anchor
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I just wonder, in usual game how much crit chance we can get? I thought only 60%, no?

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here with a talent its 100%

raven lagoon
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in regular play yeah, capped at 60% afaik

spiral haven
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Does decent give a lot of exp? I want to try because boring of doing control point every day

raven lagoon
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I usually get around 7 levels per nem clear (about 5-6 loops) and about an hour or less of time....it's not GREAT, but fair for free levels outside of regular gameplay.

full robin
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Surgical is just waste of space

raven lagoon
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agonizing bite or w.e

spiral haven
astral anchor
grizzled briar
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talent increase 5% every time

compact jewel
compact jewel
teal fiber
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Are they banning player that used exploit on descent ?

open cape
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probably eventually

compact jewel
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It's being patched tomorrow

astral anchor
hollow charm
astral anchor
raven lagoon
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indeed, I like that the NSA tech upgrades are account wide.

shrewd flame
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Ngl I quite like using the stinger hive in descent

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Either set it up in front of a spawn door

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Or my favorite method: run past the add dropping it like a proximity mine

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Thanks to Leon I can't help but say "present for you" whenever i yeet it towards the boss

obtuse flint
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I liked it until the nemesis instant killed me with it the first time I got to him 😭

shrewd flame
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ouch

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NGN makes a good point tho

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About building yourself up more to eventually face the nemesis and less for clearing rooms

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I wonder if building up composure will end up backfiring

obtuse flint
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Doesn’t

shrewd flame
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Once you stack it high enough it basically replaces the stat upgrades. Had an amazing run with the M1A until I choked. Sucks

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Tbh i feel like i'm playing descent more than the main game now lol. I guess it's mostly the drive of trying to get to the nemesis even once

obtuse flint
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Surprisingly, I liked the MK11 (or whatever it is) more than the M1A

shrewd flame
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Well, I did once but they never showed up

raven lagoon
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maybe they were scared, lol

obtuse flint
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All and all, if you are solo, just use special ammo. Put incendiary ammo on like your pistol and then just kill him

shrewd flame
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I really need to remember special ammo exists

raven lagoon
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indeed, makes it so easy it feels like a cheat

obtuse flint
shrewd flame
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I'm not quite sure how to use it yet tho

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Load it up into a pistol and stunlock every add you see?

obtuse flint
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No ads, only one nemesis

raven lagoon
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just save it for nem

shrewd flame
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Aye

raven lagoon
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u can always use trauma as well if u got an open skill talent slot, but isn't as effective and has a long CD. (but can help in a bind)

obtuse flint
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Agreed. Trauma L1 is a must have

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I’m thinking if I were to do another long run, which I won’t, I would go for incessant chatter over bullet hell after loop 30-32.

shrewd flame
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I still wonder what the priority list for NSA upgrades are

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Already maxed out aok and hsd

obtuse flint
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extra talent slot next easily

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Then crit chance

shrewd flame
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Alrighty

raven lagoon
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i did the extra talent selection, then AOK, HSD, then oddly enough I went with stability because I tend to grab unhinged alot of times....

shrewd flame
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Also should I leave Steady Handed at tier 1?

obtuse flint
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I was surprised by how much I liked having skill haste

obtuse flint
shrewd flame
raven lagoon
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so that lil bit of stability helps offset some stuff until i can grab a nice handling bonus during the run....I accidentally swapped my police m4 out for a famas when I has unhinged at like lvl3 or 4....LOL.

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NASA hates me, I was downing their satellites....

hard vine
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lol been trying the descent, definitely making me question my skill level

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either that or my patience

shrewd flame
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Tommy gun definitely feels like a solid early game choice. Pretty good damage for an smg

obtuse flint
hard vine
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how long did it take u to get to loop 35?

obtuse flint
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13 hours 😂

shrewd flame
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Entrench and Clutch definitely feel like must-haves

hard vine
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god bless 😂

obtuse flint
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I kid. I would say like 9 because I took a bunch of breaks and just left my controller plugged in with a rubber band on the sticks

hard vine
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yeah thatd definitely be the play

obtuse flint
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Hard to tell exactly but that’s my estimate

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Clutch and leadership are insanely powerful talents in descent

hard vine
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do you fight the nemesis several times after said amount of loops

obtuse flint
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No, just rogue agents bum rushing you every now and then after nemesis

hard vine
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ah ok i see

obtuse flint
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High key, if you are using a shotgun with bullet hell with clutch, as long as you are shooting, you can’t go down 😂

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I panicked yesterday and just did that for like 5 seconds until I got my bearings and figured out how to reposition

desert pond
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shotguns are so good

astral anchor
raven lagoon
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yeah, it gets better over time for sure

desert pond
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its still down bad

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90% of the time it does nothing bc you end up killing a random basic woth it

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but if you have a rogue pushing you it might just save you

raven lagoon
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tier 10 is kinda funny tho

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applies for 23 seconds, 12 second cooldown. lol

cyan fox
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23 second blind on a rogue would save ur ass for sure

raven lagoon
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forgot how it works, if CD starts from the second it's applied, or from when it fades off. but it seems like the application is higher then the cooldown starting at tier 8.

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so still a hefty bit of work opting it to it but in later rooms for things like rogues as you said, useful.

desert pond
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not just useful

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it saves your ass

raven lagoon
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yeah, I haven't had the time to go much farther than a loop or two past nem. so haven't seen too much difference so far, but I know trauma def helped even if low tier in arenas just to get NPCs to stand still or pop up out of cover, especially to get snipers out. was nice.

desert pond
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After loop 15 the fun begins

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thats where snipers start to hurt

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After 25 they tend to onetap lmao

obtuse flint
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Can’t one tap me if I’m always at double armor lol

desert pond
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what does leadership do again

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that cover to cover thing?

obtuse flint
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Cover to cover move gives 100% extra armor as bonus armor to you an all allies at level 10

desert pond
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also, dont ever put your cores on anything but blue

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red is a complete waste

obtuse flint
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I disagree

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If running bloodsucker, red cores are blue cores

desert pond
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yesnt

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all of my damage comes from unhinged

obtuse flint
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Tbh I think that after 6 blue cores, it’s a waste. You don’t need any more armor after that

desert pond
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so it genuinely doesnt matter

obtuse flint
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I don’t run unhinged. I did that twice and it wasn’t for me

desert pond
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yea youre kinda forced to run stability

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and the first kick hurts

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but god damn is it worth

cyan fox
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I ran classic m1a with unhinged level 8 😅

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Never again

obtuse flint
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LOL

desert pond
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oh god

cyan fox
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That shit sent me aiming to the ceiling

desert pond
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yea thats basically suicide once stability procs

obtuse flint
desert pond
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yep

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you gotta run an smg with it

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they dont kick that much

obtuse flint
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See I just don’t feel like it’s with it to stick yourself into only one possible play style with unhinged

desert pond
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its not one playstyle

obtuse flint
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Running red cores with bloodsucker and leadership let’s you use all weapon types

cyan fox
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And the problem is that I had the talent that gives you stability and accuracy
On hits
So my recoil control was all over the place as sometimes I didn't even have to control it and others I was fighting for my life

desert pond
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with stability you need 6ish hits and youre fine

cyan fox
desert pond
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kinda sorta

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the best way to play past 15 is to be aggressive

obtuse flint
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I haven’t tried because I don’t like the high risk

desert pond
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if you let them spread out youre fucked

desert pond
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ive onetapped the arena boss once

cyan fox
desert pond
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eeeeeeh

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that wont help tbf

obtuse flint
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I did skill tier 4 decoy

desert pond
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if youre trying to get far then defender and revive are your picks

obtuse flint
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It was a very crucial component of my run

desert pond
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defender for snipers and revive for a second chance

obtuse flint
desert pond
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nah

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because defender catches snipers

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decoy doesnt always

obtuse flint
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I think it’s all about how you use it. Decoy is key for allowing you to reposition well

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For example. With decoy I get to dictate where and when my rogue fight happens

cyan fox
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When was the earliest yall got rogues to Spawn I'm curious

obtuse flint
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Loop 12 or 14 for me personally

desert pond
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i got one on 8 lmao

obtuse flint
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Furthest I’ve gone without them is loop 26😂

cyan fox
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Yea I was on a 3 Man and rogues just showed up on 13

desert pond
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literally the room after nemesis

desert pond
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with skill T6 you can eat bullets all day

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and it makes sure a sniper doesnt randomly onetap you out of nowhere

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i got a question, whats your ideal exotic setup?

obtuse flint
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Eh, I’ll have to take your word for it. I never used defender in the real game so I don’t want to try learning in descent and die making a noob mistake with it

desert pond
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for me its diamondback, chameleon and bullet hell

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its nuts

obtuse flint
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Bloodsucker - bullet hell/incessant chatter (prefer bullet hell) - plague of the outcasts/breathe free (prefer plague)

cyan fox
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I had chameleon while using the m1a funny enough

desert pond
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damn plague?

obtuse flint
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I would never run anything besides those. I’ll just take my money

desert pond
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your playstyle is completely different from mine

cyan fox
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Plague is very dependant on the weapon ur using

desert pond
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its way too slow for me

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I'll have the room dead before it becomes useful lmao

cyan fox
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Plague has worked well for me in a group

obtuse flint
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I rather be safe than sorry

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I watch a lot of streamers die on descent solo because of impatience

desert pond
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plague doesnt provide any safety whatsoever

obtuse flint
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LOL

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yes tf it does

desert pond
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how

obtuse flint
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I can sit under cover firing one bullet every 5 seconds while my plague kills three dogs

desert pond
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it is nice against dogs I'll give ya that

obtuse flint
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Plague allows my bloodsucker to refresh better

desert pond
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my strat is to just kill everything before it has a chance to touch me

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and clutch & shotgun makes you immortal anyway

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especially with diamondback

obtuse flint
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High risk strat to me

desert pond
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theres no risk

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you run in, shoot the marked one and kill everything else

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if shit hits the fan you have clutch & preservation keeping you alive

obtuse flint
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How’d you die then?

desert pond
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onetapped

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i thought i killed everything but there was a pesky sniper in a corner

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didnt have defender up bc i didnt think id need it

obtuse flint
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No reviver hive?

desert pond
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on CD

obtuse flint
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See, if my reviver hive is on CD, I don’t move

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I’ll wait patiently lol

desert pond
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ngl

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im too lazy

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i lost it in a dumb way aswell

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thought i can 1v10 elites

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guess what, ya cant if you get hit with the slime thing

obtuse flint
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Yeah, without haz pro you get stuck in that over and over again

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I died that way one run :(

desert pond
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yep

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i rarely have haz because i dont have time to pick it up 10 times

obtuse flint
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It was one of the last talents I did

desert pond
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id much rather get clutch & surgical maxed etc

desert pond
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i absolutely need steady hands

obtuse flint
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Cause you run unhinged lol

desert pond
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without it I'll be shooting satellites

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yep lmao

obtuse flint
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Problem of your own creation lmao

desert pond
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thats not really a problem tho

obtuse flint
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What’s unhinged L10?

desert pond
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you need it t3

desert pond
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highest penalty ive seen so far was around 150

obtuse flint
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How much extra damage do you get?

desert pond
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no idea

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alot

obtuse flint
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LOL

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bro

desert pond
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i mean

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i dont pick up any red cores

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and im onetapping pretty much everything

pearl schooner
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Ah so you were shooting satellites

desert pond
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nah

hard vine
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what are the best exotic talents to get? rn i can choose breathe free sandman or bullet hell

desert pond
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bullet gell

pearl schooner
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Breathe free

obtuse flint
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I think you should just true red cores with bloodsucker and see how you feel about it

desert pond
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hands down the best exotic in descent

obtuse flint
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BREATHE FREE

hard vine
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is that locked to a specific weapon?

desert pond
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yall kidding

desert pond
obtuse flint
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damage talents are more important in the beginning

desert pond
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bullet hell is a must have

obtuse flint
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You have time to reload if everything is dead

desert pond
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later on you dont get that luxury

obtuse flint
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And you will get more exotic talents by then

pearl schooner
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Fast hands

hard vine
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this man volition is ranked on the leaderboards 😂 ima go with him on this one

pearl schooner
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Goes well with agonizing

hard vine
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appreciate the info tho im gonna go w bullet king next im only on loop 1

obtuse flint
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I just want to say I said breathe free LOL

hard vine
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yeah thats what i chose

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seems like the most ideal for the time being

obtuse flint
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if you flick back and forth under cover, you can keep building your stacks

desert pond
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breathe free is absolutely worthless later on so make sure ti replace it

pearl schooner
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I would only go for bk if i had boomstick there lol

obtuse flint
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You don’t actually have to run if you don’t want to

desert pond
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unless youre a shotgun/sniper fan

hard vine
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how good is sniping in here?

desert pond
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meh

obtuse flint
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I’ve been curious but that seems so dangerous

desert pond
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i havent gotten a sniper with a scope yet

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ion even think they exist

hard vine
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ahh i see u gotta make sure it has a scope

cyan fox
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On a group
If you grab opportunistic
It can be good

desert pond
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i dont think they can

obtuse flint
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Wtf

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The snipers don’t have a scope?!! Wut

desert pond
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i havent seen one with a scope yet

cyan fox
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I kinda like the without tbh

obtuse flint
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I’m shook

cyan fox
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Reminds me of sniping in div 1

desert pond
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theres no attachments in descent lmao

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famas with 30 bullets type of stuff

obtuse flint
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I guess I assumed snipers were exempt

desert pond
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i thought it was rng

cyan fox
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Nah its stock as it gets

desert pond
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but nah

pearl schooner
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I see some people sleep on lucky talent

obtuse flint
desert pond
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luxky does nothing once you have bullet hell lmao

obtuse flint
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I don’t use any talents that give mag capacity

desert pond
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^

cyan fox
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Because imagine a 20 plus round mag on an ar paired with lucky and extra 😂

desert pond
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its called bullet hell

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1k bullets

obtuse flint
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Lol

desert pond
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spray n pray

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especially with unhinged

pearl schooner
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Why would i run bk if i had agonizing,breathe,blood or chatter

cyan fox
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I don't get bullet hell like ever lol

desert pond
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you should

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best talent late game

obtuse flint
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I think I would run chatter instead of bullet hell after loop 30

desert pond
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maybe

obtuse flint
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But before that might as well just run bullet hell

pearl schooner
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Chatter gives me enough ammo to spam bullets

obtuse flint
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Hmm

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I didn’t start running out of ammo until loop 32

pearl schooner
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Plus lucky refunds some ammo sometimes

obtuse flint
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Don’t you get ammo back from bullet hell anyways?

pearl schooner
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You do, but does bk give absurd rof?

desert pond
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thats what allegro is for

obtuse flint
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Yup

desert pond
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also

desert pond
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oh boy

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pocket sniper

obtuse flint
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I haven’t tried but curious

desert pond
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it takes the only drawback away

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having to reload every 6 shots is hod awful

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with bullet hell you just dont

obtuse flint
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If I do another long run I’ll try that. My pistol was pretty useless after 25

desert pond
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revolvers with unhinged are never useless

obtuse flint
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Plus with plague revolver would probably be worth it

desert pond
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try diamondback too

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that 100% crit chance is disgusting with critical

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fuck it, im doin a run

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see yall tomorrow ig

obtuse flint
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LOL

desert pond
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whats top 1?

obtuse flint
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Good luck and don’t forget your rubber band!

desert pond
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i dont have one

obtuse flint
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Top 1?

desert pond
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and i dont plan on taking a break

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got 3 red bulls, we goin

desert pond
obtuse flint
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Smh

desert pond
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havent checked yet

cyan fox
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I'd advise taking breaks

obtuse flint
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On psn right now it’s 42 but he doesn’t count imo cause he was actually in a group

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36 is the next

desert pond
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but im not gonna need a rubber band for that

desert pond
obtuse flint
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Eating is important you know lol

desert pond
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i jist ate

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thats gonna be enough for 15h

obtuse flint
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LOL

meager wolf
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someone up for descent? could use somebody to play with and just ''grind'' it yk

desert pond
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akright boys

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wish me luck

meager wolf
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good luck

desert pond
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may RNJesus bless this run

obtuse flint
desert pond
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im gonna

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need to dump my 1k points first

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forgot i had em

obtuse flint
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Skill haste was a godsend

desert pond
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its cracked with defender

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you got it up pretty much 24/7

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oh

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my

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god

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i go in for the first run

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super 90 & defender

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rnjesus is with me

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ight, cya in 15h

obtuse flint
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Good luck!

desert pond
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got a DC on the first arena

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it wasnt meant to be

obtuse flint
compact jewel
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I got to 22 before my game glitched and I was tied for 14th in the world for solo

obtuse flint
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What happened how did it glitch?

desert pond
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i found an absolutely disgusting combo

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chameleon + bullet hell & bloodsucker

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if youre feeling brave swap lady deaths talent with bloodsucker

compact jewel
desert pond
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thats what im running rn and i nearly onetapped nemesis lmfao

compact jewel
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I used lady death, bullet king and diamond back

desert pond
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replace diamondback woth cham next time you run

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in early game it has a 100% uptime

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and in lategame you feel unstoppable

compact jewel
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Yea I'm good

desert pond
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and getting 70 hits in really isnt an issue with bullet hell

compact jewel
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Diamond back is so much better

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I use a shotgun late game

desert pond
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idk tbh

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im not sure which of the two i should stick with

compact jewel
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I use shotgun because of opportunistic

desert pond
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yea thats fair

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do you run lady death too?

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bc that one is almost a must have on shotguns

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75% dmg and a gap closer on top

compact jewel
desert pond
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yea thats cracked

compact jewel
obtuse flint
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Plague + bloodsucker + bullet hell

upper smelt
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Breath is far stronger than plague, and once your really setup bite can be very strong as well

hallow fable
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damn, so i got 20+ crates and exotic cache dropped on ground and dissapeared with rest of caches?

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thats great

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field proff caches have higher override to inventory than exotic, simulation and rest of caches

full robin
hallow fable
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well, they are dissapeared

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finished loop 17 run, leaved descent and in front of descent door, it shows on ground, reloads and nothing here

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still same session

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not even reconstructed saved

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to storage cache goes only optimization and simulation caches

full robin
#

Reloads what the gun or the game

hallow fable
#

neither, simple reload

#

like, it twice exited

#

im off this descent crap, 4h playing for profficient caches, no thanks

desert pond
#

lmfao it do be like that

hallow fable
#

it be like that no playing no more

#

i can get those levels in 4h with exotics for sure, now it seems like just a wasted time

#

and to die, by what? a damn bullet through wall yay 😄

desert pond
#

same lol

#

just got dropped on loop 15 bc i got shot through cover

raven lagoon
#

wasn't the room with the warhounds on a circular platform was it?

desert pond
#

nah arena

#

i was behind one of those random boxes and i got sniped by a random across the hallway

raven lagoon
#

haha, cause was gonna say screw that room. there's a stack of boxes that the enemies shoot right through every time.

desert pond
#

ive noticed

hallow fable
#

i experienced wallhack from NPC in almost every room

#

but always on low loops so it isnt one hit

lean kettle
#

So this is new, just got to loop 10 and two people in our group are afking at the lobby and trying to make me and another leave/kick us so they can invite other friends and do some sort of loop 10 exp glitch? Guy said he started a script to just wait us out until we give up and leave

#

Anything that can be done?

open cape
#

i would cut out of there asap

lean kettle
#

Would prefer to find a way to screw them and have them not steal our loop 10 run, but wondering if they're no lifers who have all night lol

open cape
#

yeah if theyre attempting any glitch its time to leave before you get caught up in some shit thats against the rules

lean kettle
#

They can't do it while we're here, it's why they're trying to kick us both so they can invite their friends to do it

open cape
#

oh cool

#

then ruin their perpetrations

hallow fable
#

if you got time to waste, just decline kick until they leave

#

they need all time they can get lmao

lean kettle
#

If myself and the other don't reply to them trying to kick us, can they kick us with just 2?

#

Or do we have to hit Y to not get kicked?

hallow fable
#

that i am not sure for real, sorry

lean kettle
#

All good, it's never something I've had to figure out or worry about until now lol

hallow fable
#

yeah, that

lean kettle
#

First time meeting people in this game -this- pathetic

hallow fable
#

yeah

compact jewel
#

Sometimes caches go to mailbox btw

obtuse flint
#

I don’t understand why those people just didn’t run just the two of them

hallow fable
#

yes, but only simulation and optimization ones

#

not exotics, not those with recipes

#

and inventory is mainly focusing on profficient caches to stash first

#

at least in my case

lean kettle
#

They have 4 people trying to take over our run, he already invited a 4th into our vacant 4th slot after we killed nemesis

#

And both of them keep trying to kick me and the other to invite two more friends, so they can exploit

obtuse flint
desert pond
#

^

obtuse flint
#

Tell them they are a-holes and then leave

desert pond
#

my wifi died 🫠

#

guess im not gonna run tonight sadge

obtuse flint
#

I think you need to make a sacrifice to rnjesus

desert pond
#

wait hold on

obtuse flint
#

Your pinky finger should do

desert pond
#

i do have wifi but my ps5 aint picking it up for whatever reason

hallow fable
#

ahhh..... imagine no bugs play

desert pond
#

which one got ya?

obtuse flint
#

Nice run! I loved that rifle

desert pond
#

descent is so fucked rn that getting anywhere past 25 should be considered a miracle

hallow fable
#

idk, got one shooted thru wall sadly

#

yep

#

and i did that run only for 20 prof caches and 3 optimization 3 simulation caches, rest is lost 😄

obtuse flint
desert pond
#

okay whaaaaaaaat

#

my ps5 isnt picking up wifi but it jist updated spotofy

#

tf

open cape
#

reboot the wifii router

desert pond
#

yea thats not happening

#

that one is downstairs n i got people sleeping there lmao

open cape
#

oh dang

desert pond
#

and im on an astronomical ammount of caffeine so sleeping isnt an option either

nova comet
#

damn that sucks

desert pond
#

i had perfect rng on my 5th loop aswell

nova comet
#

damn that sucks

desert pond
#

what i dont understand is how tf i got a spotofy update while not having WiFi

#

that one shall remain a mystery

nova comet
#

probably downloaded it when you still had wifi and applied the update when your wifi went out

desert pond
#

fair enough

#

but dude, im in the biggest mood for banging my head againsg a wall in descent rn

nova comet
#

...turn off your PS and turn it back on?

obtuse flint
#

What’s the solo leaderboard for descent looking like on PC? I’m curious

desert pond
#

did it twice alr

#

wait hold on

#

it might be back

#

aaaaaand im back indeed

#

lets hope i dont lose a 20 loop run to this later on lmao

open cape
#

i only made it to loop 4 before i'd had enough of descent for now

#

f this s

desert pond
#

lmso

odd nexus
#

Some of the deaths are annoying

open cape
#

very much so. especially once you have a really nice loadout going and you have plague of outcasts, bullet hell and the crazy rpm from incessant chatter. then one bad turn and poof its gone

obtuse flint
#

I’m confuzzled. How are y’all proc-ing incessant chatter? Do you let them come out of the door first?

open cape
#

i actualy didnt even have to try to proc it. it just happened naturally. i didnt even think of that til just now

#

but once you reload once when you got 3 or 4 guys near you and you have bullet hell. you dont have to reload so you dont lose the rpm buff

#

yeah, thats why i didnt notice. i only had to get the one reload with enemies near me and i was all set

#

yo i just saw a youtube video of a guy who did a run to loop 23 and opened all his caches to see if it was worth all that time playing descent. and the simulation caches are no longer god rolled items, its just regular caches like a field proficiency cache but named items can and/or might drop from them sometimes. overall he didnt save one piece of gear

#

none of it was worth while

#

except the exotics

polar ember
open cape
#

shit yea

obtuse flint
open cape
#

weak

obtuse flint
#

It was for the ✨experience✨

open cape
#

at least it breaks up the monotony of the rest of div 2

odd nexus
#

I wonder if there’s a way to get the descent outfit and the green watch and that

open cape
#

yeah the outfit is good

full robin
gray harness
#

I never did decent looks weird

hallow fable
#

well its good for sometimes, but hardcore grind 30+ loops, its not really worth

#

too much time consuming and no chance to pause

#

either disconnects or alphas ruins progress totally

obtuse flint
#

Ngl, I’m surprised they went with no checkpoints given the crashing problems y’all have on PC

#

I immediately thought of y’all when I heard about it

jolly cave
river sapphire
#

problem i had with going past loop 25 was the fact that i wouldnt really be getting caches, even if they were useless, just xp really

jolly cave
#

oh really, no one? boo this crowd.

river sapphire
#

not like you get better guns past blue either

odd nexus
desert pond
#

alright fuck this

#

got a DC on loop 12 again

#

ion get why it doesnt let me keep my progress either

cyan fox
desert pond
#

at least im in the top 25 ig

#

but god damn id be much higher than that

full robin
#

What loop

desert pond
#

nah not nice at all

#

got DCd at 12 and at 14 before

#

F

#

@jolly cave any clue why i keep getting DCd?

cyan fox
#

What in the hell happened lol

desert pond
#

maybe theres a way to prevent it or smrh

jolly cave
#

Honestly no idea, but every time I have a DC problem, it's due to my tin-can internet.

cyan fox
#

I don't think I've DCd once in descent

gloomy pulsar
#

Ah yeah...gotta love dcing at the nemesis fight, didn't just spend 2 hours oping myself just to quit.

odd nexus
#

I’ve had enemies just be invisible and shoot through walls and stuff for whatever reason

#

Then get hit with a delta

cyan fox
#

In the emp room

balmy finch
#

They should add gear set talents to the exo talent pool

gloomy pulsar
#

F*ck it, Pizza tower OST will guide me to killing my nemesis

cyan fox
balmy finch
#

Go to left corner

You'll understand if you've entered the room

balmy finch
#

Also idfk why unstoppable force isn't even in the pool

#

It should be there somewhere

cyan fox
#

Which is weird
You'd think it'd be a no brainer to just add more talents to descent as "update highlights"
Oh look at what we added

balmy finch
#

Hardwired in descent would be awesome

#

Or eclipse

cyan fox
#

Eclipse oh man 🤤

gloomy pulsar
#

Ok, cheating bastard doesn't want to get stuck.

balmy finch
#

?

gloomy pulsar
#

REAAALLY having fun with boss level AI...

balmy finch
#

Wait it took you two hours to get to nemesis?

#

Doesn't take me more than like 40 minutes usually

gloomy pulsar
#

Yeah it did on a fun run with others on all hard

#

Finally at the nemesis fight, then it fucking crashes.

balmy finch
#

F

#

I've done it solo, 2 man, and 4 man

balmy finch
gloomy pulsar
#

Well, this round I appear to have a vec-k47

balmy finch
#

Tbh it sucks cuz mag size

gloomy pulsar
#

Refills on kill

obtuse flint
balmy finch
#

Nothing refills on kill

gloomy pulsar
#

Incessant chatter

balmy finch
#

Ah

#

That's different

#

Without exo talent it sucks

wise granite
#

Imma say this: Preservation is the quintessential talent

gloomy pulsar
#

...I fucking hate the outcasts.

wise granite
#

Just shoot weak points

#

They are literally the easiest faction to deal with

gloomy pulsar
#

Not in this mode they're not, the flame units are tanky as fuck, same as the heavy gunners

cyan fox
#

The heavy gunners if they have special ammo are a pain

gloomy pulsar
#

Oh and the shotgunners

wise granite
#

Heavy gunners go down easy if you pop the belt or simply break LoS. Flamers are easy to deal with in general, since you just shoot the hips and the tank pops

#

Engies are an annoyance until you explode their RC, which causes them and everyone around the RC to gain abnormally long bleed and take explosion damage

gloomy pulsar
#

Nah they like to set me on fire while in cover

wise granite
#

Then just cover shoot them. Volatile, Composure and that one "extra damage as long as you dont take damage" talent should help

gloomy pulsar
#

Yeah not up to loop 8 it isn't viable, sometimes bullshit just happens

#

Cover shooting also has a chance to set you on fire and expose you from cover

wise granite
#

Yeah. But by that point, you usually have better armor, talents and damage, which means that you can move more freely and arent doing anything above medium

#

Hard is only viable until loop 6

#

Past that, guaranteed suicide

#

Not worth it

gloomy pulsar
#

I know, that's why I died on easy because of outcast bullshit

#

Any other faction? I'd be fine

wise granite
#

They spawned next to you?

gloomy pulsar
#

First wave I blitz'd away to get obliterate value, tagged a suicider on the second wave then practically got stun locked

wise granite
#

Dont use obliterate

desert pond
#

it do be like that

desert pond
wise granite
#

Not worth it. Needs you to basically have one extra talent and full crit chance upgrades at the NSA station

#

Use Volatile instead

#

Same damage, virtually no downside

desert pond
#

it most definitely is worth it lmao

gloomy pulsar
#

Especially with an smg

desert pond
#

theres an exotic called diamondback yknow

#

that one takes the obliterate value to the moon

gloomy pulsar
#

Yeah, my run got bad rng and I only got one exotic talent up to loop 8

#

Incessant chatter ftw

desert pond
#

thats not too bad

wise granite
#

Yeah but you're relying on crits without much flat damage, while Volatile is applied pretty much all the time

desert pond
#

i had bullet hell until 12th lmao

desert pond
#

you get more damage by critting

gloomy pulsar
#

Then there was that faithful run where i got 3 exotic talents, up until the nemesis bummed me by spawning in invisible

desert pond
#

and crits happen 24/7 with diamondback

gloomy pulsar
#

I was pissed.

wise granite
proven basin
#

LF1M - Decent

desert pond
#

you get 3% damage for every stack up to 30 stacks, lasts 7s at t3

#

it does a hell lot more lmao

#

or it was t4, cant remember

wise granite
desert pond
#

well thats t1

wise granite
#

Volatile is 18% extra damage t1

desert pond
#

how much does it scale

wise granite
#

T1 volatile is 18. T2 is 36

#

Doubles extra damage per tier

desert pond
#

whats the condition again

#

oh you mean unhinged

wise granite
#

18% extra damage. 25% less accuracy and 25% stability

desert pond
#

right?

#

yea you mean unhinged

wise granite
#

In spanish it is translated as volatile

#

I hate translation

desert pond
#

lmfao

wise granite
#

Ubi moment

desert pond
#

i mean it makes sense too

#

anyway

#

i run both

#

lmao

gloomy pulsar
#

Unhinged can make things handle like a mule at the worst times

desert pond
#

nah

wise granite
#

Just tap fire or get upclose and personal

desert pond
#

t5 steady hands and an smg makes the drawback disappear

#

or you can keep it at t3 where its still manageable

wise granite
#

Imma stack volatile as high as I can get it

gloomy pulsar
#

Reminds me of spice from enter the gungeon

desert pond
#

yea i wonder how god awful t10 is

#

probably -250 stability

wise granite
fathom minnow
#

if you like to shoot for the moon

desert pond
#

i usually keep it around t4

rapid rose
desert pond
#

because tou really dont need that damage

gloomy pulsar
#

favourite talent from the bunch though? Trauma

desert pond
#

once you hit some nasty chatter combo youre good

wise granite
#

The one talent I will say is underrated is gunslinger, the weapon swap extra damage one

#

It scales very nicely

gloomy pulsar
#

A shame its got such weak upgrades

desert pond
#

its ass tbf

#

way too much macro involved

wise granite
#

Nah. It doubles the damage and adds an extra second to the timer per tier

desert pond
#

again, too much macro

wise granite
#

Pair it with fast hands and boom

desert pond
#

how does fast hands help it?

wise granite
#

Faster reload means more time to use that extra damage

gloomy pulsar
#

So an extra second to have a weaker gun out, compared to your bread and butter?

desert pond
#

^

#

ion got any space for it either

wise granite
#

I ran it today and it worked pretty decent

gloomy pulsar
#

If I could have two of the same gun, sure

#

But there goes my ammo

desert pond
#

obliterate, close n personal, unhinged, concussion, vigilence and allegro

#

thats what i run

#

and im not gonna replace any of those for gunslinger lmao

gloomy pulsar
#

Really wish close and personal had a little bit more range

desert pond
#

has to be diff guns

desert pond
#

thats good enough, trust me

#

hell, 5+ is good enough aswell

gloomy pulsar
#

Ah, gotta upgrade it

desert pond
#

oh yea its basically useless until t4

gloomy pulsar
#

Ouch

#

At that point, I'd invest in surgical or some more of the common ones

desert pond
#

but if you walk up to someone and pop their head you get a healthy 100%ish damage bonus

#

even more if both are maxed

desert pond
#

bc you get guaranteed crits anyway

gloomy pulsar
#

Think we need better exotic talent rng, or guarantee it if someone does a hard only floor at the end

desert pond
#

you cant do a hard only floor

#

it'll always toss a no hard choice at you

#

also, exotics being rng is fine

#

having 3 to chose from isnt

#

bc you might end up getting glass cannon, doctor home and the regulus knockoff

gloomy pulsar
#

Does the talent choice upgrade give a 4th choice, you know, AS ADVERTISED?

desert pond
#

no

#

talent = ability

#

poor choice of words

#

unless you mean the permanent upgrade

#

but also no

gloomy pulsar
#

Yeah, I figured it'd give you a 4th exotic choice when it came to the end of rounds

desert pond
#

nop

obtuse flint
#

It would be nice if it did

desert pond
#

it would avoid me getting 3 useless talents

obtuse flint
#

I also wish that when you skipped exotic choice you got more currency

desert pond
#

yea

#

250 is just sad

#

especially since theyre rng

gloomy pulsar
#

Should scale better the more loops you go up too, 250 isn't gonna cut it for resupplying

obtuse flint
#

Tbh when you get up there you have unlimited currency really

desert pond
#

^

#

no need to reroll most the time

obtuse flint
#

I had about 35,000 currency at one point

desert pond
#

cant buy anything

#

i dont even buy special ammo at all

obtuse flint
#

Why wouldn’t you want free special ammo??

desert pond
#

ion see a need for it

gloomy pulsar
#

Special ammo just ends up getting wasted

obtuse flint
#

….you’re not using the money on anything else

desert pond
#

im usually rerolling 10 times

#

lmao

obtuse flint
#

Oh

desert pond
#

lets just say i really wanted that one perk

obtuse flint
#

I don’t really do that. Both of my long runs had really great RNG tho

desert pond
#

also

#

hear me out

#

chatter & both ammo perks at t10

obtuse flint
#

Wasted perk space imo

desert pond
#

surely that would be better than bullet hell after 25ish loops

gloomy pulsar
#

Would love to see that on a vector

#

Bullet hell might be an essential for running a vector

#

...can you get the negev?

desert pond
obtuse flint
#

In those slots, you could have had L10 leadership and L10 surge

desert pond
#

leadership?

#

my guy that ones blue

obtuse flint
#

Leadership is insanely OP

desert pond
#

lmao

gloomy pulsar
#

Spam cover to cover to get bonus armour ...while getting all your armour shredded for moving while the enemy is suppressing you

#

Sounds very op

desert pond
#

its good in a cover to cover playstyle

obtuse flint
#

Or…you could just move to the cover right next to you lol

#

I just always made sure I was positioned on a stretch of cover that could fit two people

desert pond
#

can we go back to your statement tho

gloomy pulsar
#

That's one second off an enemy that at that exact moment, could bum you

desert pond
#

leadership and the two ammo perks aint on the same colour

#

so you can just run both

gloomy pulsar
#

It's like running a dodge build with low dodge chance

obtuse flint
#

Wulf, if you move under cover when you’re not directly exposed to gunfire, you will not be hit

desert pond
#

also, i think im gonna try this chatter shenanigans

obtuse flint
gloomy pulsar
#

Tell that to the shotgunners

desert pond
#

im 99% my idea could work after 25-30

#

just get a stupid ammount of rpm

#

reload once when they spawn in and just go ham

obtuse flint
#

It’s all about positioning. I’ve never died to a shotgunner

desert pond
#

shotgunners suck, low hp on those guys

#

i usually end up killing them on accident lmao

#

also, start running defender @obtuse flint

#

it eats up gunner bullets

#

you can facetank em all

gloomy pulsar
#

...also why two shield skills when the shield skill is rarer than a reviver?

#

*talents

desert pond
#

wdym two

obtuse flint
#

Protector and vanguard

desert pond
#

nah you go defender n revive

#

at t6 the defender gets 50% dmg red

#

toss some skill talents into the mox and you get a great uptime on em aswell

obtuse flint
#

I still think you’re sleep on the decoy

desert pond
#

i tried it out

#

but it genuinely doesnt do shit in my playstyle

obtuse flint
#

But who knows maybe I’m sleep on defender. The world may never know

desert pond
#

i see its potential

#

but then again id rather be 100% safe from snipers

#

which decoy doesnt do

#

snipers are pretty much the only thing that can kill you later on so thats what i want to protect myself against

obtuse flint
#

I think it’s just that we have polar opposite play styles

desert pond
#

we do lol

obtuse flint
#

Cause leadership L10 is perfect protection from snipers

desert pond
#

i havent used cover in ages

#

lmao

obtuse flint
#

And I’m very curious to see how that goes for you after loop 30

desert pond
#

if im ever in a situation where i need to use cover ive fucked up already

desert pond
gloomy pulsar
#

Hm...what's glass like?

desert pond
#

well thats fair but i also got crazy shield regen

#

and anything i touch just dies

obtuse flint
desert pond
#

them being tankier wont change anything

obtuse flint
#

More Rikers who EXCEL at pinching you

gloomy pulsar
#

Think I'd rather breathe free then glass

desert pond
#

dont ever pick up glass

#

its literally suicide for laughable damage

obtuse flint
#

I wouldnt touch glass with a 2 foot pole

desert pond
#

its only 35% aswell

#

like

#

thats unhinged at t2

#

lmao

#

and it doesnt have anywhere near the risk

#

actually nvm unhinged has 36 so it has even more than glass lol

gloomy pulsar
#

Is pistol only viable?

#

I do wanna try that

desert pond
#

yesnt

#

if youre good at tapping heads woth revy & bullet hell you might do fine

fathom minnow
desert pond
#

getting to nemesis isnt too hard

#

but good luck getting past 15

fathom minnow
#

whats 15?

desert pond
#

thats probably where shit hits the fan

obtuse flint
#

I think you could pull it off until the much later loops. Tragically I did a couple rooms of loop 32 with pistol only and it was hell

desert pond
#

revolver?

#

because any other pistol is worthless

obtuse flint
#

No like a first wave.

#

It took me like 20 minutes to clear a close range room of hyenas with shields with a elite healer running around picking them back up

desert pond
#

lmao

#

anyway, i just noticed its almost 7am

#

i should probably hit the bed

obtuse flint
#

Lol

fathom minnow
#

that sounded...off

desert pond
#

it do be like that sometimes

fathom minnow
#

you a vamp

desert pond
#

nah

#

just have 4 red bulls in my bloodstream

fathom minnow
#

ah yes. redbull gives you wings.

desert pond
#

and i had a will to get WR on loops

#

but guess what

#

a DC on 14 and another one at 12

#

otherwise id be beyond 30 by now

#

like far beyond

obtuse flint
#

I believe in you and your drive

desert pond
#

i shall try again when i wake up, se yall

obtuse flint
#

Good luck!

gloomy pulsar
#

Well, vigi t6 this run, decoy is a must have

#

Ok that was very fair game. suicider literally martydom'd, I hs the bastard and he still detonated on me, and then I died by fire fuck the outcasts.

hallow fable
#

outcasts are imo most problematic

#

even rogues isnt that hard and annoying

#

no better feeling when you camp door to clear it, and then suicide runs out like maniac

obtuse flint
#

Tbh, I felt like on loop 34, outcasts was extremely preferable to Rikers or hyenas

#

I was actually praying for them and got my wish granted

gloomy pulsar
#

I hate them with a burning passion at the moment. Literally been the sole cause of ruining good runs.

#

vigi fucking 6, would have DOMINATED later on

obtuse flint
#

Door camp with shotgun with enough distance that if they come out you have enough time to shoot
Then, hold position turn around and shoot the others that will run up to you in under 8 seconds

gloomy pulsar
#

I tried to keep enough distance and used a flame turret to suppress a door, but those suicide fuckers didn't give two shits

#

Then one lucky molotov, sends me to death's door, afterburn is the nail

#

Like, I can't armour kit

#

Hottake, we need a free revive token, just a reviver that drops on the ground and gives us a continue in case of bullshit

#

No need to rely on a skill, if its a single use mulligan

obtuse flint
#

Have you bought the nsa tech upgrade for haz pro?

gloomy pulsar
#

Reviver as a skill is extra insurance, but not guaranteed

obtuse flint
gloomy pulsar
#

EMP, or some other related cancellation of skill

#

Also a very long cooldown for it to come back

#

A mulligan would be a fairer chance

obtuse flint
#

Not with full skill haste upgrade!

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Also, don’t ever do EMP rooms…ever

gloomy pulsar
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Shit happens, sometimes you have no choice

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Because ALL rooms are emp haz on that floor

obtuse flint
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That has happened to you?

gloomy pulsar
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Yep

obtuse flint
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I thought the game always gave you the option to avoid

gloomy pulsar
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Not always

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Same as it giving nothing but pistols for your choices

obtuse flint
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Guess I’m a lucky Lucy

gloomy pulsar
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...yeah, I'm gonna probably need to play this as a group to have fun

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Descent's really putting me through the ringer today on solo

obtuse flint
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🫂

gloomy pulsar
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...does anyone hit 'h' to matchmake?

fathom minnow
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no

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we go the long way round, via the UI

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or better yet, use the MM laptop in BoO

urban musk
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of course, thats the only way to matchmake no?

obtuse flint
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So what’s the meta strat for nemesis fight in group of 4?

fathom minnow
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run all the way to the fort at the west/left most area, buckle down, and DPS the heck out of them until you win. Don't forget you can get 120 incendiary ammo.

obtuse flint
fathom minnow
obtuse flint
fathom minnow
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👍

twin geyser
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We usually go right from spawn into a small pit and take them out one by one as they rush. We've never seen them rushing all at once ... yet 👀

twin geyser
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We never shoot until we stagger them with foam / fire bullets etc.

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I mean, if you're exposed without CC - you're dead 🙂

twin geyser
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We tried, but they spammed us with sniper-turrets / drones and stinger hives)

unique canyon
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Anyone else love Leadership?

obtuse flint
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Shit I was asleep until my most recent run when I was looking for something to upgrade

unique canyon
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I've only gotten it up to tier 9 and it's pretty strong if you choose blue cores and get your damage from red talents

obtuse flint
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I did a split of 6 blue cores and 6 red I believe and 4 yellow, and even then having double armor is just insane

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L10 I believe is 100% extra bonus armor

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Can’t be one tapped by snipers with double armor 💪🏾

unique canyon
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💯

obtuse flint
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Ngl such a cheese to do a cover to cover to cover that’s directly next to you

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I was having such a good time cheesing like that

unique canyon
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Have a shotgun, 6 red talents that are desirable and just cover to cover and pop shot lol

hallow fable
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about what loop tier you guys talk about?

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less than 10, higher than 10?

unique canyon
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I've only sold to ten when I beat my nemesis the first time

hallow fable
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up to 17, duo, we did camp one door, smash it and then just run around picking them one by one from each side flanks and thats it

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unless its cleaners, then far from door 🤣

obtuse flint
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For me higher than 10. I wouldnt start leveling leadership until like loop 15 at the earliest

hallow fable
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cover play have much npc spread

unique canyon
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What's your highest loop solo?

obtuse flint
hallow fable
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excatly

obtuse flint
unique canyon
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How long did that take?

hallow fable
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hopefully they'll fix shooting through cover and nemesis godmode bugs

obtuse flint
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My after action says 13 hours but I would say like 9ish. I took a lot of breaks to do chores and cook and eat and walk outside. I just left my controller plugged in with a rubber band on the sticks

unique canyon
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That's dedication 💪

hallow fable
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this is so wrong

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u cant tell me it isnt

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you Volition, did great thing with moving around, not sitting whole 9-13h, but imagine, peoples playing even more without stopping

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if you stop, Alpha hits and lets go again

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but crazy long hours

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loop 17, 4hours

obtuse flint
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Oh I agree, which is why I told myself after 35 I’m never doing another long run. Too unhealthy and unnecessary. I didn’t even get anything I wanted besides being high on the leaderboard which will only last a few weeks tops

fathom minnow
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got to loop 41 in a team of 4, 8 hours total.

hallow fable
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leaderboards are worthless, health is important

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they need to do some checkpoint system, either keep loops either keeps currency or something

fathom minnow
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you cant beat people on leaderboards, theres loop 141 guy

hallow fable
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thats probably glitched somehow

obtuse flint
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Oh, psn leaderboard doesn’t have that problem

hallow fable
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theres no way someone would sit 24+h playing this

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and even without crash, disconnect, freeze

obtuse flint
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I was #3 last night and #4 tonight

unique canyon
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Ive managed to get my nemesis defeat time to an hour and a half then I shut down lol

hallow fable
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its only xp wise to play, each loop gives about 1, 1and half level, but again

fathom minnow
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40 minutes gets you 23 levels on average.

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it's better than farming open world, it's consistent enough.

hallow fable
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yes, as well as you can relax in descent as its different playstyle, not just missions, strongholds and cps

obtuse flint
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I hadn’t played the regular game since I started playing descent only like 4 days ago. Went back to the regular game and felt like I forgot how to play. I wasn’t used to not using cover to cover moves anymore.

hallow fable
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lol

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im personally, daily on descent 2-4h, rest is LZ

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but until they fix cover shot and nemesis abuse, i guess i'll skip it for some time

obtuse flint
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Cover shot?

hallow fable
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bullets from npc goes through cover and kills you

obtuse flint
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Ah yeah

hallow fable
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it kills your mood when you die like that

obtuse flint
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Trust me I have many times

hallow fable
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and nemesis fights, you waiting to see where he will spawn, at the moment you see fog around you, dude spawns on top of you, rip

obtuse flint
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I think I am aware of most covers that will get you killed

hallow fable
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or throwing skills like hes damn magician, like rabbits jumping from black hat

obtuse flint
ornate coral
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Hi. Is there any info about stats tab in Descent? Any posibility to check my haz pro, chc, chd, etc.? I know we dont have it propably for a reason but its killing me every time I see chd or chc tallents. I dont know if its worth to invest or just stay with Cameleon egzo talent.

hallow fable
hallow fable
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armor and damage you can see % too somewhere

obtuse flint
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IMO an oversight that they didn’t add that

hallow fable
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and i think player starts with 0 or some static stats

vestal mist
obtuse flint
hallow fable
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yeah, you have some base damage %, armor % and thats it, everything else adds atop of that and calculates