#Please Fix Combo Talent tree

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desert depot
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6% dmg reduction the whole time is a little too good.

vocal wren
obsidian cave
# vocal wren ye cav is the tankiest unit in the game huh

Cavalry isn't more of a tank than infantry, far from it.
In the combo tree itself, there are passives that increase the damage you take, and this is the only passive that reduces the damage taken. Cav meta commanders have the "Skill" tree, with a passive that reduces 6% skill damage reduction of all types.
So 6% dmg reduction in combo tree is nothing too far from the current gameplay so I consider it a reasonable adjustment.

sleek hare
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This is complaining for the sake of complaining.

Combo as a mechanic is insanely broken, by far the most broken damage type, and the combo tree is good.

desert depot
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Combo is already stupid good

vocal wren
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cav is the least spoiled ever now

desert depot
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and historically?

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Anyways, they don't need 6% dmg reduction off the rip

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nor do they need a buff to iron and steel

vocal wren
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historical unbalance do not justify another, balancing meta with releases is what Lilith does

desert depot
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I find it really funny when ppl cry about how cavs are trash

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how do you think archers felt for years?

vocal wren
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Maybe its because their cav march does worst reports maybe

desert depot
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Take away qsh and cavs are good again

vocal wren
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and got QSH

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so why complaining we get buffs

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like

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?

desert depot
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because you don't need buffs

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you're getting new commanders

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hopefully that'll fix it

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you can't even compare the brokenness of delta vs wedge

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or pincer vs wedge

vocal wren
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right now they do, everyone running full marchs knowns what the worst march right now, its the lil cav one

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Some even don't send it out

desert depot
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yeah, because there is no combo pair rn

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but once there is it should change

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so stop crying for another 2 months

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think how archer players felt for 2 literal years trading at barely even

vocal wren
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Well if combo releases turn out to be broken Id totally agree with you
Of course until next Infa release becomes a monster

desert depot
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with any luck it'll be a ww type release

vocal wren
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its the cycle bud, things gotta balance thats it

vocal wren
desert depot
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hope so

vocal wren
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honestly Id like all types to be as close in power as possible

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that's where it gets more fun

desert depot
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you'd have to buff wedge for that to be true

vocal wren
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I've read they doing another skilldmg formation in their QA

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Im saving conversion stones

obsidian cave
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all you've done so far is "Blah Blah Blah" you haven't shown a single number for your claim.

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Just by you saying that cavalry is more tanky than infantry already shows that you must not be an experienced player. 😅

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If infantry is precisely the preferred choice for garrison precisely because of its greater ability to withstand damage and retaliate.

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I base myself on numbers and data, and both show that combo is shit.
Show me something that justifies your criticism, otherwise I won't waste my time arguing.

obsidian cave
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@desert depotFor you I don't even need to say many things but you are so stupid that you contradict yourself over and over again
"combo is stupidly strong" "combo is not strong because it has no commanders" 🤓
"Combo doesn't need buff because archer was bad for 2 years so cavalry has to be bad too" 🤓

warped stone
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kinda nice getting 3 stacks on the armaments on turn 1, a horn proc, and 81 rage extra rage from talents

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obsidian cave
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Perfect now show me that same march performing better than any other cavalry march

warped stone
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turn 2 had a second horn proc and a ring proc FrogeTea

warped stone
obsidian cave
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can i have horn and ring proc with huo/arthur in the same way

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I didn't know the ring only activated for combo commanders

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thanks for the teaching

warped stone
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I don't think anyone thinks cavs have to be fixed by buffing combo tree to compensate for not having a proper combo commander. They need a new commander

obsidian cave
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So for you it's fair 10 seconds of combo cooldown for combo-focused commanders while Liu has 1 second

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and more than twice the chance of triggering

warped stone
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Liu has fewer synergies with in armaments, gear, skills etc

obsidian cave
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So you're telling me that Liu's combo doesn't activate the ring and horn too?

warped stone
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Do people build Hilt for Liu Che? No

obsidian cave
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Horn?

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Ring?

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horn being active turn 1

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and again on turn 2 🤓

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This is more common than it seems, besides not needing a combo for this, huo/arthu has an infinitely superior performance to any combo combination you can present

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show me a combo combination that performs better than Huo and I'll delete this post now

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but damn you guys are absolutely right 6% damage reduction would be very OP I'm sure it's completely far from reality... right?? 🤓

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combo is too op omg 🤮

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warped stone
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As Amthala said, mostly a complaining thread. The strength of commanders is entirely up to what damage factors the devs choose on commanders and probabilities don't need to match or surpass random inf commanders from 2 years ago. Arthur primary is clearly viable, otherwise I wouldn't be seeing him constantly in lineups. No, cavs are not in an acceptable state as a whole. The talent could be a lazy safeguard for future commander design, I don't know, ask the devs.

obsidian cave
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"Complaint thread" obviously after hearing that "cavalry is more tank than infantry" I was already having a heart attack at that point I didn't imagine hearing such nonsense

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try opening a serious suggestion to hear a Random Guy saying that cavalry is more tank than infantry

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I don't care about the future, I'm playing in the present and in the present combo is not viable,
yes there are a lot of idiots using Arthur as primary and all of them performing worse than Huo/Arthur

warped stone
obsidian cave
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but you're right, I just edited the original post from 6% reduction to 3% reduction which is already the current reduction, but without the need to lose 50% of the troops

elfin kraken
obsidian cave
elfin kraken
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And about your point on Arthur performing worse than Huo, obviously, because Huo/Arthur is the best cavalry march right now, but people run Arthur primary because Huo is a terrible investment nowadays.

elfin kraken
obsidian cave
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When Beli was released, I made the same topic and you all came to insult me ​​saying that he was the future of the cavalry and that in the future you would release a commander to pair with him.

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This "it will be better in the future" doesn't work for me, I live in the present

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I know the RoK community,
it's always the same thing for years, it never changes.

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Especially when it comes to commanders, the community defends them until the end of the world, no matter how bad the commander is.

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I swear to you that if I make a topic asking for a buff to a commander like Artemisia, some idiot will appear saying that she is super broken OP and with him, a bunch of other people will come along saying the same thing.

warped stone
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I'd say they screwed up the transition to combo damage. Moreso than smite.

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Whatever though I'm seeing Shapur Nevsky rallies in my KvK and Arthur/LC field pairs

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And I'm seeing whales use 3 cav

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And Nevsky wont go away

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Is that because he's too good or because other cavs are too bad? FrogeHmmm

obsidian cave
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Idk I have 4 cavalry duos now, but I'll dismantle the equipment and just keep Huo/Arthur

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insisting on this unit is a waste of time and resources when obviously infantry and arc have a much more promising future

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At least now it will return 100% of the materials since almost everything has spec

obsidian cave