#Matchmaking Suggestion - lower A and below.

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devout thicket
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Seems like lately every KVK we enter some kingdoms are doing a farming KVK. I understand the need for a recovery KVK every now and again. Not all kingdoms have tons of high spenders. BUT, this is ruining the matchmaking for majority of people WANTING TO FIGHT.

Why not just allow 1 story for recovery in a running 365 period. If KD does it July, they can’t do it again till the following July.
Each KD can decide when they do it.
Make an HA type map. 0 rewards are given to those doing this story. No pass rewards, no zig, no monument/chronicles, no structures except maybe the 25% farming buff (with no rewards when capturing). RCF sure.

If that same kingdom that did the recovery ALREADY does ANOTHER recovery KVK that year, they will automatically have to go into a merging situation next. How does Lilith know if that kingdom did another recovery? EASY!

3 options -

Option 1 - They do the recovery kvk and then next get voted that they did recovery by several/majority of kings.

Option 2 - They do the new recovery kvk. Then Lilith checks at the end of each kvk if less than x percentage of people participated from that KD.

Option 3 - they get voted twice by 2 different sets of kings from 2 different KVK’s. (in case they just decide to skip that type of KVK to not get marked and/or miss out on rewards)

Lilith will already have the data that xx KD did a recovery. Then, similar to how we can vote to cancel a kvk, give the kings the right to report these 💩 KD’s that do recoveries ALL the time. If you can have the majority of kings vote from the kvk that a KD is doing recovery, then the next step will be to automatically force them to be a part of the merge KD deal. It would benefit all KD’s to report them.

If you like, you can even have an appeal process for why 18 of 20 kingdoms voted for that kd to be in recovery. Just in case they really are just a bad KD and weren’t necessarily doing recovery.

sick bison
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2 a year would be better, 1 is kind of low, unless lilith decides to up rss/speedup returns

hoary comet
sick bison
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you want less farmer kds in kvk, give them more opportunities to farm 🤣

viral rapids
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Honestly a recovery kvk story with like 200% gathering speed to incentivize and benefit them and take it happily would be neat

Probably shouldnt even have a fight in it, just a honor based kvk with small rewards and make it last 28 days or something

lofty tusk
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The fact kingdoms can't recover in the maximum allowed time says all it needs to say on it's face.

KvK and it's week of fighting +/- depending on KvK matchup and somehow two months plus a short time prior to zone opening and they STILL need the whole KvK and the off-season to catch back up.

Why is it that we can't recover in the time they give us? No we don't need a Farmville mode. We need what Farmville time that does exist to match the expense.

devout thicket
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At least this way, we can put those 💩 KD’s in their own useless KVK with giving everyone else the opportunity to play without one of these useless KD’s

hearty cliff
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you simply cannot 'force' kds to fight.
there's a lot of KDs where their normal kvk effort looks like a recovery kvk effort for another kd, there's no way to actually enforce/police this.

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ultimately kds that dont fight do get put into kvks with other kds that dont fight, that's already part of the matchmaking system.

lofty tusk
devout thicket
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No one would force a KD to fight, but having some effort is better than 0 effort. Which in turn, no one would vote for them if they have some effort. @hearty cliff

Imagine having 2 KD’s in your camp. 1 being a 15b power KD doing 4b? kps in your kvk and 1 12b power alliance doing 3b kps. You consider that best effort? lol.

devout thicket
lofty tusk
devout thicket
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Yep, but then they would just never register for KVK and Lilith would host a server costing them money just to host.

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So then why should that server even exist?

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I mean, tbh, more kingdoms should just start zeroing all these kds doing recovery every time and kds will think twice about doing recovery

lofty tusk
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I don't care about Lilith's bottom line but forcing players into things and bashing them as a community doesn't do them any good either.

tulip spindle
# viral rapids Honestly a recovery kvk story with like 200% gathering speed to incentivize and ...

Not half bad idea. Make it the length of a pop cycle. Limit of 1 per calendar year and automatically registers your kingdom for the next cycle, no exceptions.
-Super increased gathering speed (200% or more).
-Highly increased barb and barb fort rewards. (You can even cap quantity)
-Make it an all HP for a basic reward which is bonus items to assist with recovery only. No autarch except line march.
-No fights

This would increase kingdom activity which is included in part of matchmaking, so it should only help.

viral rapids
lofty tusk
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But there's still nothing stopping them from still farming that KvK. Forcing a queue won't magically make them the biggest baddest fighters.