#Commander priority
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are we playing the same game 😭
at least read the reports if ur gon spout bullshit
they literally did zero damage to me
because believe it or not
bai/sun is an aoe march
Idk bro no point in arguing with you it wouldnt make my top 5 f2p marches caues f2p can only make 1 march and it wouldnt make any of a p2w players marches for kvk 1
nobody using it in my kvk
dont really hear about it on youtube
go ahead and name 5 f2p marches better than baibars/sun
im just the noob bro this is your job no?
youtubers are 90% random ass soc whales who know fuck all about kvk1
nah youre the one making a statement
back it up.
name 5 kvk1 marches for a f2p that are better than bai/sun
I mean if they dont know anything than make better videos about kvk 1 and make "better" content
lol new ppl coming to the game everyday
and you can "help" them
name 5 marches
stop avoiding the question
and name 5 marches better than bai/sun for f2p
bro said all the youtubers making videos about kvk 1 are soc youtubers that dont know anything about kvk 1
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than make the content needed?
mate
answer the fucking question
name 5 f2p friendly marches better than bai/sun
why are you getting so mad bro calm down
and no, ysg is not very f2p friendly
cuz you talk shit and avoid questions lmao
expertising ysg for early kvk1? no, its not viable lol
would you believe me if I told you f2p ppl expertise ysg before kvk 1?
ysg has insane value for early game and a lot f2p restart after crystal tech...
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mate thats not relevant to the fact a lot of f2ps cant max ysg
and once again, please stop avoiding the question
name 5 viable marches that are better for f2p than bai/sun
@harsh root look whos avoiding questions again 😭
I mean you dont think a f2p can get ysg or something so it will be a little more difficult are gold key commanders also impossible to get to a decent lvl to use?
5511 aeth is also f2p viable, ig 5511 gold key comms to be nice, 5511 ysg as well
are gold key commanders p2w as well?
make 5 better marches with that
ill say 5511 legendaries are viable, with the obvious exception of mina
ok
sun tzu expertise ysg 5 5 1 1 is better than baibars
agree??
we are arguing in a discord about a mobile game
we have time
nah
due to the fact youll start tweaking if i say no, sure, i guess thats one
gl finding 4 more lol
ill name them 1 by 1 and see if you agree
I mean if you dont agree you dont agree? everyone wont see things the same way and there is nothing wrong with people playing the game differently
as long as its still effective
bai/sun is clearly effective but you disagree with that lol
anyways, 4 more marches please :D
and also
its just worse than a 5555 ysg in every single way
i would legitimately run thut/sun over thut/5511 ysg
4 more marches tho :D
thutmose ysg is a better march than sun baibars so I dont need another march
your comparing it to thut/sun
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well yes, sun/bai is a terrible march
where did baibars go?
not debating that one
ok than
you said youd find 5 marches
youve found a grand total of one
yeah I found 2 so far
bro we comparing marches to sun/bai not thut/sun
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or bai/sun my bad*
well... yea?
so what does thut/sun have to do with anything
i only brought up thut/sun to say its arguably better than 5511 ysg 
are you saying thut/sun is better sun baibars?
do you lack reading comprehension lol
I mean what I heard is thut/sun is better than thut/ysg so it has to be better than baib/sun correct?
cause thut/ysg is better no?
thut ysg isnt f2p viable
also btw
explain to me how mina/sun is actually meant to be better than bai/sun
i just dont see it lol
ok bro I already said mina is mid
you need aoe for kvk 1 bc you running 1 march most likely as f2p
and your gonna be in murder balls not duels
maybe top 10
but not top 5
bro
Gng why is your mina 5511. Mina is better than bai exp
tbh naw mina is not very good
aside from marches witht max ysg*
mina/cc gave me bad trades 😭 or like mid
barely trading positive
sometimes negative
no aoe = you missing out on big dmg
maybe a mina bai but like still idk
Hes the best comm in kvk1 besides ysg
I feel like when your runnin 1 march having 2 aoe commanders is nice
like this is mina/sun vs bai/sun at 5511 mina lol
yeah but as someone who just used him I dont recommend
and ts is why bai sun is good lol
If I could restart the game I would main infantry
this is max mina version, its truly not THAT much different
best overall idea tbh lol
tbh bro like I said
single hit skill dmg commanders kvk 1 are only viable for ppl running multiple marches but even than focus aoe if you want best trades
if you agree mina is mid
then bai/sun is the 3rd best kvk1 cav march
behind mina/ysg and bai/ysg
:D
I would give mina a rating of 4/10
cause hes only really good for forts
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and he was first commander I got to 60
:/
and if its the 3rd best cav marching including p2w options, i fail to understand how its not in the top 5 for overall f2p options

make it make sense
because
infantry has OP f2p marches tbh
you cant deny this
if you restarted the game
and you were completely f2p
inf has an entire singular "f2p" march i would actually rate over bai sun tbh
and that is sun/ysg
and this is what you would use?
personally i rate bai/sun over sun/aeth but thats js personal bias towards cavs
but at max, 2 inf f2p marches are better than bai/sun lol
at absolute worst bai/sun is the 4th best f2p option lol
and thats behind sun/aeth sun/ysg and bai/ysg
I couldnt fight much this kvk because the other kingdom has krakens that have pilots and they are online 24/7 smashing us
so we already lost all our territory in the new zone
feel like kingsland will go the same way
oof
I mean wtf can you do tbh
he literally has like 120m power
and he is always fighting smart
with his alliance backing him up
and his other whales
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ye thats js not really possible lol
straight smashing us ong
my kvk had like 80m as their biggest
we have whales but nothing like him
but he was kinda ahh, and their kd was mid
this guy is literally online
24/7
fighting
pilots
and his alliance feeding him resources to heal up his t5
part of why my reports are THAT good is due to the fact their kd was stronger but kinda ass at fighting lol
the only good trades I get is when their farm accounts come to make us wait rss
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oof
Im using mina ysg
cause mina cc was dog
and I have to use mina cause hes my only lvl 60
besides sun
but my research and troops are focused on cav 😭
are u fighting near flags n shit?
ye i hate those lil shitty 5s long fights near flags
I wont get zeroed
never trade hella good n shit
be getting jumped by 5 guys
but I just hit and run
cuz bai sun needs lots of aoe skill cycles, when its not skill cycling constantly its pretty mid... cuz yk... itrs really just an aoe stack march lol
take mina ysg out do aoe and than go back and city and slowly drain them cause they are far from city
and If I let them all do a skill cycle on me my mina will be like half health
ye
idk why bro but like im getting TERRIBLE normal dmg trades 😭
im like 20m power and ill attack someone with 15m power and they outrading me
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oof
thats kinda how id trade white dmg against whales
but then aoe be touching all the f2ps n shit
he did have 250k and I had 205k but still ehh
I feel like as f2p your just better off not going cav even as low spender
if your casual go infantry
if your a sweat go archer
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true
but more viable commander pairs no?
eh
sun/aeth is kinda it for casual
bjorn/sun is ass
sun/ysg isnt viaable for casual
n thats kinda it
just a straight up worse option than sun/aeth
absolutely zero reason to run bjorn
even if u doing some crazy weird 2 march f2p shit js run bai/ysg sun/aeth atp
yeah
aethelfled gets hate tbh
btw like lets say you can have 300k troops and your running infantry shouldnt you put 280k infantry and 10k archer and 10k cav
for the 3 different troop type buff
no
20% attack
hmm why not you think
or maybe like 290k infantry and 5k cav/archer
some of em inf talents reqire full inf n shi
and they wont benefit from gear n allat
mmm
im glad most ppl accept that sun/aeth > bjorn/sun these days
most forced debate ever tbh
I mean bro even if you dont realize it like me after first kvk you will see aoe is how you win fights
@valid thunder is one of those specimens who still glazes bjorn
hence why bai/sun and sun/aeth the goats
I still think ysg 5 5 1 1 goat
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good skill dmg and rage gen
Im lowkey cookeddd for kvk 2
no idea who to run
It’s truly not that good
Literally any configuration of ysg that isn’t expertised, will output less skill damage than a maxed sun
Even 5545 does less overall skill damage than sun
so mina sun is better than mina ysg?
If ysg ain’t maxed yea
Deserved glaze
Due to how aoe reduction works lol
Its the best f2p inf march
def not the best
Im not even infantry and I know this
Yh
Best for f2ps
Zak haven’t you gotten like 2 weeks worth of mutes for saying stupid shit about bjorn
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yes
Gonna use him in kvk1 cuz hes the goat
cooked acc
Bigger number is better
how old is your kingdom
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you will regret not going all in for aoe 🤣
never wouldve guessed
since when
Sure
Guaranteed i can beat your sun aeth
once again
nobody is debating its a better duel march
im about to be fighting in kingsland in few days if you dont have aoe your trades are goin to be cooked
bjorn is most certainly better at dueling
you think your single hit dmg or like whatever debuff matters when you get smacked by 15 aoes 15 seconds into the fight
its all about hitting as many people as you can with aoe before you get cooked as f2p
also do guardians everyday 5 marches
for the xp ❤️
ay I was noob I wasnt aware
and idk if you do kvk before you should know how good aoe is
every youtuber talking about it everyone using it if a infantry player isnt using aoe commanders he will use cm with phyrus
or like sun with cm
or like sun with richard for tanky
sun with aethel for double aoe
so many better options
Bjorn sun is the best option
no its not lol
but ok we all have our opinions
Double aoe is good but bjorns attack buff is insane dmg
Love that
Helps your team too
it might be your opinion that he is the best but if we are looking at numbers in a murder ball or a duel there is better commanders
he thinks 15% debuff > 90% debuff frfr
imma be fr
some of the stuff u said was hella stupid @craggy acorn
but zaks statements make u look like a genius
whats ur gear btw
Use your brain.
Bjorns 10% attack buff 10% defense buff 15% skill dmg buff just synergies better with sun
Aeth has -30% health which is meh
March speed red is decent ig
Aeth is only good exp for her 20% attack on 5 enemies
Man
U only use aeth 5511 if u didnt exp bjorn
Bjorn increases ysgs already high dmg ouput tho
Bro I need this guys plugs number
😭😂
Whatever he on I need some
And sun increases it even more..? 💀
And sun actually does skill damage himself 💀
Yall can hate but my bjorn/sun melts marches i already tried out in past kvk
I know you capping bro
You go into a murder ball with that and if the balls are even your getting smashed
The reports will be negative or mid
Not capping
Anyway
If me and someone that are arguing for like days
Agree on something finally
And it’s against you, you must think to yourself
Maybe they right
Mostly positive
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The problem with aeth is that her -90% activates secondary. So u cant even take advantage of it only your teammates can use it to deal dmg
With bjorn you deal dmg immediately
Aeth only benefits your teammates. Bjorn benefits yourself plus teammates
Which means hes good gng
Unless u make aeth primary which is bad idea
😂bro what is you talking about
Her debuff only activates after suns aoe so u cant use it, only teammates will. And only lasts 2 seconds so it wont last for your next aoe
Bjorns buff activates first and synergies with suns aoe. And helps teammates
But she’s doing aoe to multiple targets and her debuts help your team? Weren’t you talking about helping your team with debuffs earlier
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Your bjorn bringing no value to a ball
Your over here trying to compare boosting sun tzu dmg to having a 2nd commander also doing aoe
😂
Someone get this guy some milk
15% skill dmg for everybody
Nobody cares aethelfed brings more debuffs and she actually has aoe
Arguing with you is pointless
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Maybe i have kp mindset. Id rather play bjorn sun for more dmg for more kp. Aeths debuff doesnt give u kp only helps your team
Bjorn also helps teammates tho
So bjorn is just better option
Put that ong
You will get more kp by having 2 commanders doing aoe instead of just boosting 1 commander with debuffs genius
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Nobody agrees with you and the facts show other wise this is just your opinion buddy
Not in my experience. My bjorn consistently gets better trades than when i run aeth
Much better f2p infantry marches out there you just don’t know I guess 🥶
Bro going to be crying when he getting smacked by aoe
And he only procs aoe once every couple of seconds
Not boosting 1 comm. Your boosting the entire team bruv
but... bjorn does less damage? 😭
aetht also boosts literally everyone btw
?
????
Stop contradicting yourself bro
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You honestly starting to look like a clown
like bjorn/sun straight up does less damage, its an entire ass fact
do some basic ass math
Your math wack cuz i get better trades anyway
starting? nah bruv hes looked like one for a month
Yeah like I love arguing I live for it
But this guy is lost
Someone need to install Google maps for him to find his way back
Bjorn boosts your comm plus your entire team. Aeth just your team
Imo i rather have bjorns boost
That’s your opinion use whatever you want
how lol
bring ur math up that says bjorn does more damage per cycl
i would love to see it
I think he is legit rage baiting tbh
probably
.
sir
experience n math are violently different things
especially due to the fact literally all of your reports are pretty shit
you trade absolute ass with bjorn/sun as well lol?
No shit your not gonna trade positive 100% of the time
Nobody does
Not in my experience 😃
everybody knows if your f2p go for aoe
if you want to think otherwise play how you want
i do
im done responding to someone thats not open minded
Well i went with bjorn/sun on my restart and traded well. Sooo
ive sent literally every one of my kvk1 field reports here lol
not a singular one is worse than 400%
You trade positive every time? On all your marches? Capppp
I came into this chat saying baibars wasnt viable and now ive expertised him
Unless your kraken bullying noobs that cap
i run one march in kvk1...?
Not even baba trade positive every time
and im actually useful at fighting, so yea, i trade positive on literally every report lol\
hes a kraken 7 marching soc, and im a f2p 1 marching in kvk1
they are incredibly different roles
a kraken is literally supposed to go out and tank the enemy ball, so ofc he isnt trading positive...?
you think he cares about trades 😭
someone get this guy some milk
learn how to fucking fight before you say stupid shit.
Sorry man i just dont believe that u traded positive on 100% of your reports
Especially as f2p
you wont always get good trades because the fight wont always be in your favor lmfao
U capping
its not hard to achieve when you are focused on aoe commanders and fighting in balls genius
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Those were all your reports you ever got?
All of them
here we go
Or u just favorited your best reports?
there you go
proper ball fights in kvk1? yea lol
send your reports with bjorn sun
we will wait?
Nahh i dont believe that
i dont count lil poking fights near flags as proper fighting, so i dont save the reports lol
U saved your best reports. U 100% got bad trades u just didnt favorite them
he is just talking bro
i didnt lol
I believe that
i went out and ran the march purely for testing purposes to see if it was viable
so yea, i saved every single report i got
if im gonna be reccomending a march to new players, im gonna do good testing lol, i saved everything
Nah thats cap
I will try baibars with sun for kingsland
Physically impossible to NEVER get a bad report
Your march didnt get zeroed not even once?
Cappp
no lol
i return to my city before i sadface..?
so yea i never get shit reports lol
I dont think he has fought in kvk before he joined this disc in august
this guy is simply just talking
Left and rejoin when i decided to play rok again
He was here ages ago Tbf
Didn’t say intelligent shit back then either
I didn’t lol
My worst report in the whole kvk was ironically the one time I didn’t run bai/sun
(Was still 250%) 
I actually 100% do believe him
if you are fighting in a murder ball which is HOW YOU SHOULD be fighting in kvk
Well i think your gullible than
they are running how many marches
are you slow or are you slow?
focusing on 1 march isnt hard if you cant do that im sorry your not ready for soc
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bro cant even command 1 army
Man those are ppl running 5 marches
I’m running ONE
im guessing like me angel playing on pc and pretty good at pvp in balls
prob better than me actually
but im pretty good cant lie
I really dont think that matters. Its physically impossible to NEVER get a bad report
I play mobile most of the time actually
I dont think he is fighting organized
Dude
When I get targeted
that is impressive
I run my ass back into my own murderball
So I don’t ever take really bad trades lol
Only for a few seconds at a time do I actually trade negative d
idek what he on gang
Yeah i just dont believe it nuh uh
cope
this guy actually doesnt know why people fight in a ball
😭
and if your outputting 2 commanders worth of aoe while your enemies like him only using 1 commander with aoe
you will be doing more dmg than you take
if you dont get that
idk
Also i usually zero my marches thats why my reports r kinda shit
But i trade better with my bjorn
he sent the reports why you keep dodging?
Scroll up gng you’ll find it eventually
1500 messages u got it
what hes tryna say is he only has reports from sum youtuber n doesnt have his own
from 4 years ago?
Bro yall gotta shut up its been 1500 messages 😭 🙏
bro just wanted to know what his commander priorities where 
i convinced the first dude that bai sun is goated
thats one
now he gets to read a long debate
now its js zak being as stupid as usual
you actually convinced 2 people
pretty sure he just quit rok after this 😭
I just expertised him
nah the random ppl who ask the question make the thread and never come back lmao
now just get him to 60


ive never seen one of the thread ppl actually come back
zak being #1 bjorn simp
and than I will make a thread in the future no one will comment on 😭 just for me to come back to it everyday in disappointment 🤣 thats my life
and you might think I was noob for asking about shadow legion ret but I couldnt find any youtube videos about it and it was first legendary blueprint I got
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