Removal of sleepers.

[hexed remnant]

I can't tell you how stressful it is making a new account and having to play 24/7 to be somewhat important in the early game sleepers just come and ruin your experience in the game. This honestly needs to go because many new players can't even have a chance at playing without being pushed around like a doll.

[crisp parrot]

Sleepers can’t be removed without removing the passport functionality from the early game (pre-KVK1) entirely. Perhaps they’ll fix it with their comprehensive redesign of the early game experience

[south oracle]

so basically if your kingdom is bad then sorry you can only leave it after KvK1

[crisp parrot]

Basically lol

[full jetty]

I do think sleepers can cause power imbalances but really they also at the same time help kingdoms

If anything maybe some restrictions can be placed for migrations but they had gotten rid of jumper. I think jumping helped natives and sleepers a lot. Yes it did cause imbalance but projects thrived

What really needs to be done is that early game there needs to be a way for f2p players to be able to keep up in power rankings early on against spenders. We know this isn’t an issue later on in the game but only early game

Is also why I like what the devs are doing with there pioneering route

[hexed remnant]

They could remove the 10 day starting migration from starting kingdom so it's possible to remove the imbalance of power is extreme. Most players won't last a week after sleepers come due to imbalance power and sleepers wanting everything

Sleepers will hate this post nothing more needs to be said. They will continue to ruin the game for new players like myself

That's why alot of newer players quit these days

[crisp parrot]

I’m not sure i understand they already removed the begginer’s migration? Sleepers use normal passports

[hexed remnant]

Moving ten days forward from starting kingdom

[crisp parrot]

Yes a maximum of ten days forward

[hexed remnant]

Which should be removed

[crisp parrot]

And how exactly would they remove that?

[hexed remnant]

To balance out new players

Wouldn't be difficult

[crisp parrot]

So how would it be done?

[hexed remnant]

They remove the moving forward ten days and wait for prep season in kvk

Which would balance out new kingdoms giving new players a fair chance

[crisp parrot]

So no migration until season 1?

Because sleepers already move between two “preparation season” KDs

[hexed remnant]

Migration still possible to go backwards ofc but not forwards

[crisp parrot]

So how exactly would that work?

[hexed remnant]

Like I said

[crisp parrot]

If I’m in KD 4001 I can only go to KDs 4002 and up?

I couldn’t go to 4000 or 3999?

[hexed remnant]

You just hating and that's exactly my point

[crisp parrot]

Nah I’m actually confused at this point lol

You haven’t articulated the exact change that you want

“Removing sleepers” is too vague as it’s a fan term

[south oracle]

unlike Jump, sleeper is practically something normal (migration with passport), you can't take it away without harming practically anyone who wants to leave a bad kingdom

[crisp parrot]

^^

[tame kiln]

Well all the people before you had to deal with it too, what makes you so special to avoid what we all went through? It’s not fair to the rest of the community

[south oracle]

It's more about how to do it, jump was just removing an item, sleeper you would have to kill normal migration

[crisp parrot]

Yeah exactly. You’d basically have to kill migration up to the start of Season 1, and that’s just going to lower player retention

[stark rune]

This is a dumb idea

[lyric grotto]

Yeah, the early game experience is horrible !

[tame kiln]

That is incredibly true

[crisp parrot]

It is true, unfortunately the suggested fix that spawned this conversation will likely make things worse not better

[agile sky]

well big rip looks like they deleted sleepers

[crisp parrot]

Yep, it’s unfortunate but they seemingly don’t want new players to migrate out of bad situations. Sad 😢