MGE mark system - For SoC only!

[craggy dome]

MGE is the most heated topic in many kingdoms, civil wars break out, players are zeroed and fined because of that... so it is not the most positive aspect of the game.

So my suggestion is a mark system:

-Marked governors are not able to finish at a lower place than that of a non-marked governor's place
-The rankings between marked players function the same as regular (higher point=higher place)
-Only king (and maybe an appointed officer) may grant marks to governors

I am well-aware of how this may be toxic in tyrannic kingdoms and kills the "competiton" element of MGE but for most kingdoms this would come as an improvement.

[minor swan]

OR…just open up MGE and let everyone compete to the best of their ability. 🤷‍♂️

[craggy dome]

I really like the idea of a rouge taking the new garrison and rally commanders away from actual rally and garrison leaders😊

[tall turtle]

Fixing MGEs provides an inherent advantage though. It allows people who can best utilize the commanders available to get them. Often this “fixing” also provides a point maximum so that players are not pushing and wasting unnecessary resources on any given MGE

[minor swan]

No it doesn’t. All fixing MGE does is allow the same players to get max rewards over and over while stifling other players who want to get ahead, have the speed ups to do so during MGE but told they’ll be zeroed if they dare.

[minor swan]

Then those rally/garrison players should’ve tried harder.

[fast grail]

Fixed MGEs are so the kingdom as a whole doesn't waste resources and speed ups fighting each other for an unlock. MGEs should be for the rally and garrison leads for your kingdom.

[craggy dome]

@tall turtle @fast grail I agree.

[minor swan]

You will never convince me that fixing MGE is a good thing. I’ve played for 4 years and in every kingdom, it’s the same 5-6 players in the first slots for EVERY MGE.

[fast grail]

Maybe because the 5-6 players are your rally and garrison leads

[minor swan]

But they aren’t

Majority of the time, they leave garrison to go field battling while we end up with city keeper as our kvk garrison

[craggy dome]

Moving to a better kingdom is often an option.

[minor swan]

A better kingdom where they also fix MGE for the benefit of their small circle of buddies?

Sure, I’ll pay for passports to experience the same hoarding somewhere else

[fast grail]

But they were in the garrison? Hence a garrison leader leaving the garrison on accident happens

[olive spruce]

Either your in some newbie D seed kingdom or a tyrannical kingdom

[minor swan]

It’s not accidental in my experience

[olive spruce]

Either way I see this suggestion as a good change

[fast grail]

Maybe they were needed somewhere else more important

[craggy dome]

I don't care how and according to whose idea but MGE needs a positive change.

[minor swan]

My last kingdom we had change of leadership after a dismal kvk. The new king placed himself top of MGE for the 4 MGEs he was there for, then he migrated out

[fast grail]

That happens

[minor swan]

All the time. MGE isn’t a competition, it’s a boys club for little groups to hand each other loads of gold heads while pretending to be magnanimous.

We were fighting a solid kvk against reasonably matched opponents…we had advantage and were pressing…we were told to cancel rallies because our “rally lead” wasn’t online…our advance stalled…all because of this notion of a rally lead

[olive spruce]

Why didn't you migrate out when your new king is being tyrannical in the MGE then

[fast grail]

@craggy dome I forgot to read the original suggestion but was it

Allow the king to select who goes in certain rankings and the amount of points they can get?

[minor swan]

I did as soon as migration opened up

I had cooldown and had to gather passports

[craggy dome]

Yes, let's say there is a list and the players on the list cannot be lower than others, only their ranking between each other can change. (Hopefully according to the previously agreed upon list)

[fast grail]

To be a rally lead you need to have many things.

• Good equipment leveled up
• Max tech or have the highest tech in the kingdom
  And have the city theme for the troop type you are garrisoning

Not everyone can just rally and garrison so that's another reason why not everyone just gets the commanders - especially when it's new

[minor swan]

MGE does need a change but here’s my suggestion…remove the “kill enemies” part. Everything else in MGE is designed to boost the account…that one segment is where most players get their points…removing that limits the damage rogue players can do.

[olive spruce]

Thats not what he means but sure

[fast grail]

Shh

[fast grail]

And then what? Get your points from bloating your kingdoms stats?

[minor swan]

Is it bloating or is it making actual progress?

[fast grail]

Bloating

[minor swan]

Nah. We will disagree on that one. Troops trained are still troops trained. Too many coward kingdoms seek lower seeds in matchmaking to have easier kvks. Just take the fight as it comes without trying to manipulate the matchmaking.

Yes I know that’s how every kingdom does it, but why? Why not just take the tougher fights? Challenge yourselves instead of slipping into complacency.

[fast grail]

Go look at kingdom 1001 - 1004

[minor swan]

I’m in 1004

[fast grail]

I see

[minor swan]

I have accounts in a few kingdoms. And “go look at 1000-1004” doesn’t address the point I made.

[fast grail]

Those are all bloated kingdoms that can't keep up with the power of kvks they are in

They are dead weight

To every kingdom that allies or camps with them

I see people complain about them all the time

[minor swan]

Then those kingdoms fail on their own merit or lack thereof.

Once again you’re proving my point, no-one wants to rise to a challenge unless you’re in a kingdom like 1960. Everyone wants the easiest route

[tall turtle]

So you’d rather that the F2P players cook themselves on a bad MGE and not let a good rally or garrison lead get the commander they need?

[fast grail]

They are full of alt accounts trying to see new events a day early

[minor swan]

I’d rather every player had equal opportunity to get MGE rewards instead of feeling like the kingdoms are geared entirely towards the kings circle jerk buddies

[fast grail]

F2p really don't need the mge commanders

[tall turtle]

The only way to make the opportunity completely equal is to remove all spending mechanisms

[minor swan]

At least in my version, f2p have that opportunity. MGE fixing leaves the spots open to only the spenders.

[tall turtle]

The way that most (well run ) kingdoms have it set up is there’s a google form that one fills to apply for the fixed MGE

[fast grail]

F2P will not be rallying and garrisoning.

[minor swan]

Ah yes, the google form that gets ignored

[fast grail]

It doesn't get ignored. It goes to the people that need it most

Or deserve it most

[minor swan]

In my previous kingdom, our rally player failed to win the battle 80% of the time.

[fast grail]

For kvk contribution

[tall turtle]

If it’s getting ignored you should be leaving that kingdom

TLDR of this whole post: commenter is frustrated that he is in a poorly run kingdom and therefore believes that some universal but unofficial system should be completely abolished

[minor swan]

I’m not the OP. 😂😂

My current kingdom is actually run very well. My frustration comes from years of observation on who gets the MGE spots repeatedly and then those players fail to make equivalent difference to fighting in kvk

[tall turtle]

Bob my recommendation for you is to restart with an actually good leadership

[fast grail]

@minor swan what was your kvk contribution last kvk

[minor swan]

Considering we were zoned locked in zone 4 thanks to poor decisions at the top level and I only had one viable army…Alex/YSG….i hit 170m KP and negotiated far better deals with our enemies than our official kingdom leadership did

Rallied many flags successfully after our “rally lead” went AWOL

[tall turtle]

Sounds like poor leadership. You should restart

[fast grail]

I'm surprised there is leadership in KD 1001 - 1004

[minor swan]

This wasn’t in 1004. I have my original account there but not my current one

[fast grail]

Migrate out #1250017362741039206

[minor swan]

It was poor leadership but that brings me back to my point. That leadership who gave the MGE to their chosen “rally/garrison” lead…is the same leadership who disappeared mid kvk at the same time that our rally/garrison lead also disappeared…making all those MGE rewards wasted resources.

Experiences like this are why I will never agree that fixing MGE for a few players is a good idea. Those players disappear for whatever reason and the rest of us have to fight on with what we have instead of what we were told we could rely on

[rose plank]

The result of unfixed MGE would result in the same whales/rally/garrison leads winning every time also…. No low or mid spender could actually compete and everyone would waste more resources and speeds

[tall turtle]

^

[minor swan]

Perhaps. But it gives the average player the opportunity to try and manage their account as they see fit.

If it results in the rally/garrison leads winning anyway, why not try it?

[tall turtle]

Sure they win anyways but they waste resources in doing so thereby putting them at a disadvantage when they have to compete against others who had fixed MGEs

[fast grail]

Bob rn:

[minor swan]

Their accounts, their choice

[minor swan]

Ah of course, the personal jibes come out. Keep it on topic, not personal attacks

[tall turtle]

Actually you’re right bob. All the spenders would leave the kingdom and the low spenders would just get crushed in KVK

Their account their choice

[minor swan]

Spenders would leave the kingdom because they have to put effort into getting MGE rewards? Sounds like a problem amongst the spenders

[rose plank]

People can farm kill if that’s how they want to manage their account, but no good KD will allow that to go unpunished

[tall turtle]

Yes they would. Because they want to be as efficient as possible and exist in a kingdom with no internal conflict

[minor swan]

Hence my previous suggestion of removing the “kill enemies” portion of MGE

[rose plank]

That’s not my point

[tall turtle]

That honestly belongs in its own thread tbh

[fast grail]

This idea sucks

[rose plank]

Anyone does have the freedom to “manage their account” as they see fit. If that is farm killing or stealing MGE, not fight in kvk or anything else. But KD leadership will generally frown on players who manage their accounts like that

[minor swan]

In other words, they can’t rely on the king to give them rewards just for being in their inner circle and might actually have to put effort into deserving MGE spots.

Is it efficient to have one or two rally garrison leads to cover the entire kingdom? And have those few players get all MGE top spots just because they say they want to do those roles? Just for those players to realise they aren’t as good as they thought they were and leave half way during a kvk leaving the rest of us to pick up the meagre pieces left?

[minor swan]

Sucks because?

[fast grail]

I told you before

[tall turtle]

Topically you have a small number usually less than a dozen

[minor swan]

If it’s about “wasting resources” then you really don’t advocate for players to run their accounts how they wish

[rose plank]

Bro is traumatized from a whale migrating away mid-kvk and now wants to rework how every (successful) kingdom in the game functions

[tall turtle]

Fr

[minor swan]

The entire leadership team left, including our rally and garrison leads.

Not just one player

[rose plank]

Yeah that sucks I agree

[minor swan]

Everyone who got MGE spots for the entire life of that kingdom left in a single kvk after they got thrashed

[tall turtle]

Yeah it sucks but doesn’t mean that the entire system should be overhauled. If it’s even possible

Because if Lilith restricts communications of the event in game most leaders will just move to third party apps

[rose plank]

Also, I just realized that people can migrate away after an unfixed MGE too

[minor swan]

Just admit that you’re all one of the players who get the MGE spots regularly and you want to protect your gravy train.

How does opening up MGE really hurt anyone if you remove the kill portion? Players use speed ups to strengthen their accounts? Meaning they can be more effective in fights? 😱 the horror.

[rose plank]

I’m 35 mil power

[minor swan]

Even if they can’t beat out the whales, they can do what they want

[tall turtle]

I’m a F2P that’s never gotten (and probably never will get) a fixed MGE spot

[rose plank]

You can always do what you want, see previous comment

Anyone does have the freedom to “manage their account” as they see fit. If that is farm killing or stealing MGE, not fight in kvk or anything else. But KD leadership will generally frown on players who manage their accounts like that

[minor swan]

Just not in MGE where gold heads are concerned though, right? Not without having your account reset because the king didn’t deem you worthy of opportunity

[tall turtle]

Kings are basically dictators lol. They can do just about anything they want

[fast grail]

I don't. I don't even ask for them because I don't need them

[rose plank]

You can do what you want though, good leadership will reset you though

[minor swan]

Good leadership would understand that having a larger pool of players to rely upon is better for the kingdom than having 1-2 leads who shaft the entire kingdom if they ever disappear

[tall turtle]

Yes but that’s not the point lol

[minor swan]

It absolutely is.

[rose plank]

I see your point about players disappearing and I think we can agree on a sensible common solution

[minor swan]

You’re talking about funnelling the MGE rewards to the very limited number of leads. Those leads disappear and all those MGE spots might as well have no existed

[rose plank]

Lilith should update so a player who places top 10 in MGE should not be able to migrate for 1 year

[minor swan]

That’s not a bad idea but doesn’t prevent them going idle

[tall turtle]

Then they just quit and start again somewhere else

[rose plank]

To clarify I was being sarcastic

[tall turtle]

Or they decide screw this and spend their money elsewhere

[rose plank]

Because this whole thing is ridiculous at this point

[tall turtle]

Yeah lol

[minor swan]

It’s ridiculous to you because you don’t share my perspective. I understand where you are all coming from, my experience and values are different to yours.

[tall turtle]

Bro is seeing the equation 2+2 and believing the only reasonable answer is “fish”

[rose plank]

Your problem is with players getting MGE and then disappearing. But your solution is to un-fix MGE, which will not prevent players from dissappearing

[minor swan]

Again with the absurd comments about my mental ability

People who disagree with you are not stupid, they think differently to you

[rose plank]

People can migrate away, quit, or become DW all the same whether mge is fixed or unfixed.

[tall turtle]

I’m not questioning your mental abilities. I’m simply saying that you are convinced the answer is a complete misconception of the situation

[minor swan]

It’s not a misconception of the situation at all.

[tall turtle]

It is, but arguing about it is pointless lol

Fixed MGEs aren’t a thing as far as the devs are concerned

[minor swan]

And now you’re telling me that I don’t grasp the situation because you don’t agree with me?

[rose plank]

@Bob please help me understand this

[tall turtle]

It’s an “exploit” that they really can’t fix because it involves third party apps and websites

[minor swan]

Help you understand what?

[rose plank]

People can migrate away, quit, or become DW all the same whether mge is fixed or unfixed.

So how would unfixed MGE solve your problem

Fixing MGE with an application process at least allows the KD to try to give the GH to players that will contribute the most or have contributed in the past. Of course it is not perfect though

[half spruce]

Why not just migrate to a kingdom where mge is based off last kvk contribution,lol

[rose plank]

No bob wants it to be free for all

[minor swan]

Unfixed MGE, even if it goes to the strongest every time, gives every player in the kingdom the opportunity to compete. Having spenders v non-spenders doesn’t make it inherently unfair. We all know money rules the game. It’s like saying putting Caitlin Clark against Angel Reese is unfair…we know there’s a large gap in the ability to compete but having everyone in the competition gives players the idea that they could get the best rewards.

Because people can migrate out and almost always do, why does fixing MGE help? Can people who benefit from fixed MGE not migrate out? If they do migrate out, they take MGE rewards with them, making any MGE rewards they had, not benefit kingdom at all. So why not unfix? The only reason someone has given so far is so that weaker accounts don’t use their speed ups or resources to push during MGE..but why wouldn’t you want weaker accounts gaining strength?

[tall turtle]

How would one prevent MGEs from being fixed on third party apps?

[minor swan]

You can’t but this is where your disconnect comes in. If king says MGE is unfixed, and they zero players competing, it shows corrupt leadership and liars for who they really are

[rose plank]

Again your problem is with bad leadership not with fixed mge

[tall turtle]

^

[minor swan]

What you’re assuming is that the king tries to fix but players not on the list push anyway…that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying have kingdom leadership leave all MGE genuinely open for everyone to compete for

[tall turtle]

Ok and how would that be enforced by the devs?

[rose plank]

Just flipped my whole point about migration around on me….
I am saying that migration will happen either way, so unfixed does not solve the problem

[minor swan]

It doesn’t need to be enforced by the devs of the king opens up MGE

If*

[half spruce]

I kinda feel like this belongs to the "create kingdoms for deadweights only" suggestion,there should be open mge there

[tall turtle]

^

[minor swan]

MGE as an event is open for everyone. It’s the king that fixes it. Not the devs

[tall turtle]

But you’ve highjacked a post about a suggestion to the developers about changing MGE settings

[half spruce]

It's open for everyone who is a core member of the kingdom,a fierce fighter and a garrison/rally lead

[minor swan]

It’s open for the select few the king decides are worthy.

[rose plank]

It is not a coincidence that every KD does fixed. Any KD that does open MGE outside of fighting times was unsuccessful and got new leadership that fixes MGE. It is not an accident

[tall turtle]

^

[half spruce]

And that's pretty enough,f2ps don't need mge comms as they're not useful on field anyway,f2ps are weak so they can't garrasion or rally

[minor swan]

Of course every kingdom does fixed…butt buddies gotta stick together

[half spruce]

Maybe a few commanders are an exception but that's the main reason why f2ps don't care about mge

[rose plank]

If open MGE worked, then some king should start doing it and then get a huge advantage over the other KD that are fixing

[minor swan]

F2P very much do care, I see it all the time but leadership, like you, ignore them because they’re f2p

[tall turtle]

CM is one that I can think of now that the swap is a thing

[tall turtle]

As a F2P and member of leadership I don’t care

[half spruce]

lol might just keep cm,does decent job as a 2ndary with full museum buff,insane stat buff

[half spruce]

Same

[minor swan]

So because YOU don’t care, all f2p don’t care?

[tall turtle]

Yeah but museum takes a lot of resources when you can just swap for a nearly maxed LC instead

[half spruce]

Only get those commanders occasionally for collection,funnies and possibly coo matches

[rose plank]

Just find a KD that does open MGE and problem solved

[minor swan]

I’ve played for 4 years and countless f2p players say they’d love MGE spots but accept they won’t because they aren’t spenders

[half spruce]

True,gonna use cm as a 2ndary for as long as he isn't getting swapped out🥷

[rare sage]

It isnt a hot take that F2P wont get top 3 spots for MGE unless they do exceptionally in kvk….

[half spruce]

Basically yes but this guy disagrees

[rose plank]

^

[rare sage]

This guy obv isnt a rally or garrison lead

[minor swan]

I was waiting for this. I’m my current kingdoms best garrison lead. 😂😂

[rare sage]

I feel sorry for ur kd

[minor swan]

Don’t. I’m awesome

[rose plank]

So you have bad leadership if you aren’t getting MGE

[tall turtle]

They won’t get it anyway unless it’s fixed and the whales are told to not push

[half spruce]

Sum up
He says usually it's the same few players that get top spots
He says that those few players don't contribute to kvk,migrate out during kvk loss and aren't worth it
We told him it sounds like corrupt leadership and advised him to migrate,he claims the problem is universal

[minor swan]

I’ve been offered top MGE. I don’t want it if it’s fixed

[half spruce]

Beat me to it lol

[rose plank]

Aaaaaaaaaaaassaaaaaa

I don’t want it if it’s fixed

[half spruce]

Why?

[rose plank]

Guys we’ve been successfully rage-baited

[rare sage]

It os usually the same people… cuz usually they are ur rally and garrison leads… in my C seed kd we have 3 players per troop type who almost always get top 3 spot

[minor swan]

Why am I more deserving than someone who has worked their ass off but can’t spend as much as I can?

[rose plank]

Gg

[rare sage]

Cuz we only have 3 rally/garrisons per troop type…

[half spruce]

Because you are stronger
Can get better trades and help the kingdom win kvk
As an f2p, I'd rather my kd wins kvk than me winning mge

[half spruce]

Yeah we already said that,same thing for almost every kd

[tall turtle]

This lol

[rare sage]

2650 we also give highest ranks not to kvk performance but to our rally/garrison leads, and after them comes kvk contributions

[minor swan]

Exactly. I can’t be online at all times. I refuse to hand over password to a pilot. MGE rewards are wasted if I’m not online. So why not give someone else the chance?

[half spruce]

I did tell him to migrate to a kd that that gives mge based off kvk contribution instead of power

[half spruce]

That's why you have more than 1 rally/garrasion leader

[rose plank]

He has been told everything at this point

[half spruce]

Yeah skipping ts argument rn

[rose plank]

For sure rage bait

[minor swan]

I’m in a kingdom that works how you all say it should and leadership here is significantly better than old kingdom. But I still don’t agree MGE should be fixed

[half spruce]

"i don't want it if it's fixed"got me staring like 😐

[rare sage]

Bob aint cooking

[rose plank]

^^^

[minor swan]

😏

[half spruce]

Too bad almost everyone else does

[rose plank]

bob is the most principled man in the world

Better than all of us

[half spruce]

Absolutely

[rare sage]

Kingdoms that dont fix mge will always be at a disadvantage to kds that do

[tall turtle]

I made this argument like an hour ago lol

[half spruce]

Just see how noble he is"i don't want it fixed" he doesn't want to be GIVEN the mge,he wants himself to take it and deserve it,how manly🙏

[rare sage]

I aint backreading all tha

[minor swan]

Nothing wrong with believing in fair opportunity for all

[tall turtle]

Fair enough

[rare sage]

[rare sage]

“Fair”

It would still not be fair

[rose plank]

Wouldn’t it be more fair if everyone MGE?

[minor swan]

As fair as can be in a p2w game

[half spruce]

True

[rare sage]

Whales would just take it whenever they want if its always free

[tall turtle]

“Communism will work because my version hasn’t been tried yet”

[rare sage]

Fr fe

[minor swan]

Equal opportunity isn’t even close to communism. But nice try

[rare sage]

He means the saying

[tall turtle]

It’s not, it’s an analogy

[half spruce]

Ts ragebaiting 🙏

[rose plank]

But the analogy about it not working is very very accurate

[rare sage]

“Non fixed MGEs will work cuz it hasnt been tried yet”

[rose plank]

^^^^^

[tall turtle]

Yep lol

[half spruce]

Non fixed mges can be seen in pre kvks,you should see the amount of civil wars for mge spots

[minor swan]

“Only one way works because it’s the first one we tried that worked”

see how ridiculous that argument is?

[half spruce]

That's not as bad since it's pre kvk,do that in soc and your kd will get cooked

[rose plank]

Not the same and you know it

[rare sage]

Yes u are ridiculous

Glad u can see it 2

[minor swan]

Ah back to the personal attacks

[half spruce]

Back to the ragebaiting

[minor swan]

You guys are biting

[half spruce]

You still flipped around king lemon's pointing of migrating out

[tall turtle]

The JC MGEs at the start are always super chaotic and make people want fixed MGEs

[rose plank]

Lmao

[half spruce]

Well take your time and argue then🤷,been repeating yourself all over

[rare sage]

260 messages

[half spruce]

Exactly my point 🙏

[rare sage]

[minor swan]

At least I’m consistent

[rose plank]

It was impressive

[half spruce]

No you're not

Answer the argument first

[tall turtle]

Ik the four of us have been making the same point to bob for like two hours now

[minor swan]

I have. Over and over

[half spruce]

What was your answer?seems to be invisible to me

[rose plank]

Maybe if one more person joins and makes the points again it will help

[rare sage]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-food-no-food-no-food-cooking-cooking-invisible-food-gif-26221963

[minor swan]

Scroll up, I’m not rewriting

[rare sage]

[half spruce]

How do you counter people who migrate out,even if mge is unfixed?what prevents them from migrating out

[tall turtle]

I can always get a mod, this has gone on long enough

[minor swan]

Get a mod

[tall turtle]

Bet

[half spruce]

Already read everything, that's how i knew king lemon suggested that even tho I wasn't present,you just flipped the argument around

[minor swan]

“Guy disagrees with us so we will get a mod to close the thread or remove him” 😂😂😂

[half spruce]

Guy ragebaits*

[minor swan]

You’re raging, doesn’t mean I’m baiting

[half spruce]

You still aren't making a valid point tho

[rare sage]

“Bob hasnt cooked and now he burned his food”

[half spruce]

And think that we are hating on you

[tall turtle]

@trim musk sorry for the ping my guy but this has kinda gotten out of hand and the original conversation and point has been lost

[rare sage]

“Black on the outside raw on the inside”

[minor swan]

My point holds as much validity as yours

[half spruce]

No,just no🙏
Open mge= whales still win,just costs them more

[minor swan]

You don’t NEED to reply.

[minor swan]

So?

[half spruce]

"the soup is cold,the salad is hot, how's that even possible?"

[half spruce]

No point of opening it

[rare sage]

Lolllll

[half spruce]

Just a waste

[tall turtle]

I’m just doing as you asked lol

[minor swan]

When did i ask you to reply?

[rare sage]

U made this post

So people can discuss ur opinion

[minor swan]

Lmao no I didn’t

I commented on someone else’s post

[half spruce]

He didn'tcough cough he claims to make a point tho

[tall turtle]

He actually commented on it and he’s arguably highjacked this post

[rare sage]

Wait fr? @minor swan why are u even here

[half spruce]

True

[rare sage]

[half spruce]

He opens open mge 💀

[minor swan]

Why are you here?

[rare sage]

Cuz i got time on my hands

[half spruce]

It's not a free for all buffet bro

[rare sage]

He can do it in his kd

Would love to fight him in kvk

[minor swan]

Same. Glad we sorted that out 😁

[half spruce]

Well his kd has fixed and that triggers him,even tho they offered him top spots🤣

[rose plank]

Let’s get back on topic and discuss the MGE mark system

[rare sage]

🗿hes so sigma

[half spruce]

Ong lmao

So manly

[rare sage]

💯

[minor swan]

Some of us think of the poorer players who want to get some rewards. Can’t all be selfish

[rare sage]

Cant remove KE

[half spruce]

They have other events to compete in,mge is useless for f2p

[rare sage]

As it would just push people to fight less or have less extended fights

[half spruce]

Do the speed up usage event, powerup,just not mge

[rare sage]

Can i send u some of my poor players?

[minor swan]

So they can spend speed ups and rss in other events, just not your precious MGE?

Congrats, you’ve killed someone else’s point

[half spruce]

Yes

[half spruce]

What's that point?

Why do f2ps need mge commanders?you never answered 😭

[rare sage]

20gh is fixed in my kd as well…

Just as a giveaway with a bot

[half spruce]

Even better tbh

[rare sage]

So we dont have people over push

[half spruce]

🤣

[minor swan]

Why shouldn’t they have the opportunity to get them?

[half spruce]

Because they don't need them

Those commanders have like 1-3 skill useless

[rare sage]

Why should u have people compete about these events in HK

Will just create conflict

[half spruce]

Ask bob🤷

[rare sage]

And make everything expensive

[rose plank]

Bobs perspective is fundamentally idealistic. In an ideal world there can be a fair competition where everyone can compete as they see fit for the MGE gh.
Everyone else is realistic, kingdoms have learned that in order to successfully compete the MGE gh need to be distributed efficiently in order to win lvl fights.
Can we just leave it at that

[half spruce]

In bob's perspective that will make his kd preform better overall

[minor swan]

Not for the f2p it won’t 😏

[rare sage]

[rare sage]

It will if they tried to push

[half spruce]

How?how will a f2p win an open mge without spending a lot of rss and speedups?🤣

[minor swan]

But entore is telling me they should push in other events just not MGE

[rare sage]

They can get top 15 spots

[half spruce]

Better value for f2p

[rare sage]

Just not top 5

[half spruce]

Mge commanders are useless,other evens give gold head= useful

Events*

[rare sage]

Unlocks for if they really want the commander

Like hera for example

[half spruce]

Hera has chaining usages,i understand that

But subutai for example is just completely useless

[rare sage]

But only need like 5111 lol

[minor swan]

Surely it’s up to them as to what they consider most value for their resources

[half spruce]

Yeah still not much

[rare sage]

“Its FFA but we expect u to actually think before u act”

[minor swan]

What would be wrong about that?

[rare sage]

Everything

[half spruce]

Well if they DO consider mge better value then they'd objectively wrong

It's like saying toku/gorgo would win aginst bq/lc💀

[rare sage]

Rok players are inherently bad at deciding what they shouldnt do

[half spruce]

I agree and confirm

[tall turtle]

Guilty as charged

[rare sage]

“Let me push zenith”

[rose plank]

The reason that MGE isn’t open is the same reason people don’t run Pericles in open field.
You can do it, but it doesn’t work out well

[minor swan]

And leadership are notoriously bad for having little boys clubs comprised of only players they like or are close with

[half spruce]

Just change kingdom bro

[rare sage]

That little club is usually the top 5 players who are main priority players

[minor swan]

Played in upwards of 8 kingdoms and they’re all the same

[fast grail]

Y'all still at this

[rose plank]

Why are they the same?????????

Why

[half spruce]

It's your leadership's fault (if you were being truthful about being the best rally/garrasion leader though it's also your fault)

[rare sage]

I still feel sorry if hes the best they got

[half spruce]

Because he probably refused the spot too,Lmao

[rare sage]

[minor swan]

How’s it my fault? It’s only after swap event that I’m garrison lead because everyone else swapped out their garrison for LC and others..whereas I worked on Gorgo Hera

[half spruce]

Same😭, I'd be mad pissed if our top whale refused the spot

[rare sage]

Hes gonna be using gorgo hera in 2027

[half spruce]

How much power do you have?
It's YOUR fault because you said you refused the spot
If you are not lying then you done insane dmg to your kingdom

[half spruce]

🤣🤣

[minor swan]

I’ll use whatever I have that works

[rose plank]

Fr I don’t want to fill flags for garrison leads that refuse MGE

[rare sage]

Thats a problem lol

[minor swan]

Our infantry MGE has rolled around yet. King offered me top spot but I politely declined

Hasn’t rolled*

[half spruce]

You do that and then blame your leadership

No wonder your kingdom is losing

[rose plank]

And the poor people that fill your garrison will take more dead’s

[minor swan]

Bless your heart for not listening

[rose plank]

Because of your principles

[half spruce]

You aren't listening bro

[fast grail]

[minor swan]

I’ve already said my current leadership seems to be much better than previous kingdoms.

I haven’t blamed current leadership for anything. Only previous kingdoms and their leadership

[half spruce]

You legit
-kept on repeating yourself

• avoided arguing about the value, what's good for f2p and what not and guilt tripped us into thinking we are wrong
• avoided key arguments and didn't respond to them

[minor swan]

It’s only this kingdom that has offered me MGE

I’ve addressed everything you’ve all said. Not my fault you either skip over my response or don’t think it’s valid enough to constitute an answer in your opinion

[half spruce]

Okay so how can you judge so quickly and say it's all the same?

[rose plank]

Bob you should become king somewhere and implement your strategy

[half spruce]

Fr

Just so you find out it doesn't work out the hard way

[minor swan]

Hell no. I don’t need that stress

[rose plank]

Bro would be the first E seed

[minor swan]

And I certainly don’t have the temperament for it.

[half spruce]

But the poor f2ps do need such a mighty king!

[minor swan]

Maybe so but we would be the envy of all kingdoms as you all seem to try to lower your seed as much as possible every kvk

[half spruce]

I wouldn't envy your kd🤷

Enjoy your free mges,i enjoy my kvks

[minor swan]

😁 this was fun. We should reunion on another post somewhere. Have a good day folks 😉

[silent plover]

This should not be a topic of discussion ,let kd councils decide - kvk rewards are far higher and superior to mge commanders. I would take my kvk rewards , max my stuff and then make whales spend more than cry over not getting an mge, also you dont need to have 1 march each of infantry, cavalry and archers. Just invest in 2 troops maybe and save the rest for garrison or rally if you wanna have one - you cant always have everything tbh - thats life. And i get the point of these groups taking all mges. Be smart, just do exactly 100% dkp (or 25 mill kills for the rewards) and max your rewards, thats the thing i shamelessly do in every kvk i am in cuz i had the experience of getting an mge spot even though i deserved it on multiple occasions , i never bother going "above and beyond" the min requirements , once they are met go farm gems and barbs, enjoy the kvk farmville. Come back to hk, work on your garrison or rally pair whatever you might need as you have two free cycles in every commander drop - but yeah im a low to mid spender

Wanna use your R/G? ditch the kd for a loss of 10 ghs and play in the solo ark of osiris mode, you can do anything you like

[sand steeple]

MGE is designed to cause conflict, truth is mge commanders are usually short lived if your not at least fixing some positions your kingdom is always behind, my kingdom has a policy of all can apply if you fight any size any power if they turn up in kvk and they have heads/ commanders to pair. HOWEVER rank 1.2.3 during off season must go to key players, in kvk it will generally be the most committed who gain the free mges. Lone players will always be lone players and always think they are oppressed, what would be a better fix is to able to mark players who do not play kvks or have not been active and inactive that cannot gain score for a set time maybe 2/3 players an mge would be fine just to eliminate the rouge on new commanders, but as a king who believes in fairness giving more heads, more positions of note or more ability to give players to cover the problem players is better then restriction.

[celest lark]

ye because mge is only for rally garrison

why would a non rally garrison neeed a rally garrison commadner