❓〡questions

[willow pond]

who should i pair up with my sun tzu for kvk 1 ?

as a F2P

[warped heart]

aeth

[fickle ore]

Aethel

[willow pond]

what about second march?

[high linden]

don't

f2p dont run 2 march

[willow pond]

so just one 😭

[high linden]

yep

[willow pond]

alr

is charles martel worth it

[warped heart]

if you have like 2bil on food, wood and stone, sure ig

and 100+ days of speeds

[warped heart]

wouldn't put gold heads

[willow pond]

dang

i’m lowk useless

[warped heart]

that's mostly the state of f2ps actually

[willow pond]

so like

when do i become useful

[warped heart]

when you reach soc and get like 3 marches with good meta pairs

with billions of rss

and allata speeds

you can still be useful in kvk1 by being a field player and using 1 march to kill off enemy marches and outnumbering them if possible

[willow pond]

alr bet

still gotta wait like 60 days lol

[ripe timber]

if i play suntzu athefield i go athefield in support right?

[grand briar]

If sun is primary aethael talent tree doesn’t matter

And sun should be primary

[ripe timber]

what about cao minomoto

[grand briar]

Mina primary

[warped heart]

minamoto should be 5511 to be usable

bench caocao to the gallows

[true sorrel]

never

f2p are useful in numbers never alone

[ripe timber]

5411 mino
513 cao right now

i go to mino's talent skill tree

full of skill damage

[warped heart]

Just leave caocao

he's useless

[ripe timber]

dang

i spend everyday for his packs

[warped heart]

[warped heart]

what's your plan you tryna achieve?

[ripe timber]

Cavalary damage

[warped heart]

assuming your just using Cavs, then just use one march
Mina 5511 suntzu expertise

buy vip chests to get 5511 mina

[ripe timber]

not just cavs i use suntzu athe too

[warped heart]

then the marches your gonna use will be
Mina baibars
suntzu aeth

[ripe timber]

so im going to upgrade baybars not cao

[warped heart]

yes, dont upgrade caocao just buy coronation bundles or vanquisher

[dawn palm]

How do you get access to post in #1250017362741039206

[mighty viper]

Read #❓〡recruit․rules to the end

[rugged turtle]

What should I focus next for gear, I’m running inf in kvk 1 and probably kvk 2 aswell. I hear a lot good about archers but I think inf is good too I could be wrong?

[warped heart]

hope cloak

[rugged turtle]

Okay I’ll get that soon from the battle pass thing

[brisk finch]

When KVK3 ends, in the daily chest, can you already buy any commander?

[warped heart]

can't confirm

[lethal jacinth]

which

[ivory peak]

How long is the window to repeat kvk 2? Can you repeat it once the kvk 2 lk closes or do you have to do it before it ends?

[warped heart]

right

[lethal jacinth]

Am3n

[rose narwhal]

If you cross yes you can do it after it's over, if you don't then before

[ivory peak]

Oh okay thanks

[sour whale]

Guys which is better
Spending gems on the egg event and some later on the vip level during mtg or just all 50k on vip during mtg

[warped heart]

what's your VIP level?

[sour whale]

12

[warped heart]

go all in on VIP

[sour whale]

Bet

[warped heart]

need VIP14

[sour whale]

Alright thanks man

[potent vale]

Is there something I should be doing Here that I don't know about or just trying to get a bunch of commanders I don't need anyways lol

[pale trail]

use expertise commanders and one that you'd like to get

so you'd get reimbursed for recieving your expertised commanders which can be used to reinvest back into the one commander you want

[warped heart]

put expertised commanders and idk, put the rest what you want

[craggy spade]

Who wanna start w new account togther need someone to play with and help me out through my progression

[mighty viper]

See #1250017171145359381

[near bridge]

Guys, Does the "More than Gems" event depend on the server age? Like, if it starts, will it be available on all servers globally even if a server just started yesterday?
I play on 4098 which started Wednesday do i need to save gems from now?

[mighty viper]

It is dependent on server age. If a server is not above a certain age threshold (commonly believed to be 21 days) at the start of the event that server (kingdom) will not receive the event

[mighty viper]

Yes

[white tapir]

Don't GG's skills not work against neutral units like those in golden kingdom are considered?

[warped heart]

they're not barbarians

well I wouldn't put someone or categorized as neutral when a game is using commanders from soc as neutral

[tall moat]

egg has weapon and accessory, still no soc accessory(except drums). STP lc full gold (except pants) and full gold qsh ysg atm. only 300 gh so not that close to a third march... wtf do I roll for... better yet who do i progress to

[alpine ore]

Just 10 spin for whatever you need or need down the line, soc accessories won’t come in egg or dig event they will be in soc shop which will be accessible in the lost kingdom. For what comms to progress to is more situational but since ur low on gh most of the time best play is just wait for new releases

[main knoll]

can we stop the AI slop pictures on youtube rok videos

[warped heart]

no

[main knoll]

btw

how far does cave scout quest go

i am at 310 right now

[glad kettle]

I wish

literally no soul or creativity involved

[tall moat]

i mean i have the gems to burn, i prolly should max spin regardless, forgot that cav weapon isnt the egg weapon, and i didnt know horn and all were woc accesories... maybe i just go archer weapon and either iconic or build a new one for that new guy... eventually go archer third

[warped heart]

idk

[tall moat]

maybe i can run him and someone else 5551 or something and have them useable kvk4

🤩

god starting fresh in this game was not a smart financial choice 😭 , if only i listened

[glad kettle]

[warped heart]

but why

gems to burn? can you atleast save?

[tall moat]

i mean materials ig... and eventually ill need the bp

[warped heart]

or is it a kind of impulse spendnig you have?

[tall moat]

isnt egg best material event after prayers?

[warped heart]

no best for bp

[tall moat]

ah

[tall moat]

no i just waste my life gem farming, and realistically gems are of no use to me in my inventory except looking cool

[glad kettle]

when is egg event?

do you know

[tall moat]

what use are gems if they arent spent for progressing the account

[glad kettle]

you can spend them wisely

More then gems event

[warped heart]

now

[fringe sable]

Today

[glad kettle]

buying vip points

[warped heart]

Just buy mats from VIP

[glad kettle]

I have the mining one

tf

[warped heart]

if you just wants mats

[fringe sable]

It should be hammer or egg today for everyone

[glad kettle]

I got hammer

[warped heart]

assuming yours is dig event, the next egg event should be 2 weeks

[fringe sable]

Yeah next time it's egg for you then

[glad kettle]

Didnt realize it was randomized

[fringe sable]

14 days

[fringe sable]

Simultaneous

[warped heart]

kinda, there was a pattern

[glad kettle]

yeah

Differential with kingdoms I mean

thanks guys

[fringe sable]

Yeah

[warped heart]

I recommend joining TKC for the calendar

[glad kettle]

I left it a while ago due to a lot of them endorsing piloting

[warped heart]

no it was a discussion about pilot and how will it affect or when will it be gone

[glad kettle]

nahh this was a long time ago

[warped heart]

TKC doesn't fully endorse or support piloting

[warped heart]

ok

[main knoll]

êgg event comes on first aoo weekend in offseason before kvk 1

roughly around day 75

[fringe sable]

Thanks for the info bro

[tall moat]

i already did 😛

[fringe sable]

People are desperate to get gems don't spend them like that lol

You can always save them for future as no one can steal them from you

[glad kettle]

what's your vip?

[warped heart]

save for next week

[tall moat]

15

[main knoll]

i am low spend and vip 12 at day 60

bit more bcs i am js waiting for mtg next week

but coulda hit it day 50

[glad kettle]

mtg event VIP 16 is good

daily materials

[glad kettle]

pretty good

[main knoll]

sitting on over 1B open rss and 200 days of speeds and got 11M pwr rn

for kvk prolly gona be around chill 20M

[tall moat]

yeah but im like 150k or something off it

doubt thats worth it

[glad kettle]

I think half a purple material a day is pretty good lol

especially since you say you have gems to burn

[gusty bone]

I want to start the game I don't have lots of experience and I'm 20& budget a month with like 100$ starter and 4_6 hours daily play I like infantry and would you recommend me this game?

[gusty bone]

.

[warped heart]

what's the problem?

[glad kettle]

I would say the monthly gem supply is like the best thing

[gusty bone]

I'm asking I should play or pass 🙂

[warped heart]

I mean if you sink in 16 hours or less into the game maybe you will be relevent?

sink that amount of hours in like 3 months

[glad kettle]

only $10 a month and will significantly improve your progress

[warped heart]

cause early game needs that much attention

[gusty bone]

Nice

[gusty bone]

16 hours?

[glad kettle]

Not everyone is a super tryhard catacolt lmao

you can play D seeds

[glad kettle]

no bro

[warped heart]

wellll if he buys bundles that has gems and buy speeds to skip the amount of hours needed then sure

[glad kettle]

Early game you just need a good alliance tbh

plus monthly gem supply imo

get vip 6 with the monthly then buy the speedups in VIP shop

[gusty bone]

Not that many bundles I can't afford

[glad kettle]

especially the way the game is setup nowadays in early game

they made progressing way faster

[gusty bone]

With gems?

[glad kettle]

yeah

if you do play

the main goal

is to get VIP 10 as fast as possible

because it gives you a gold head every day

[gusty bone]

I may gather gems daily

[glad kettle]

this will require a lot of time

but it's possible to progress this way

[gusty bone]

But how many months I need to suffer?

[glad kettle]

to get where

[gusty bone]

In work I can do some clicking I think

[glad kettle]

It's what I do lol

[warped heart]

not a tryhard, just a guy who's in high C seed and requirements are not that needy and early game is different than soc, because the moment you get offline you get kicked instantly and you get accepted to some top 10 alliance which will be irrelevent later on the game

[gusty bone]

To require lesstime

[glad kettle]

I mean fair, but I think 16 hours is a bit much lol

[gusty bone]

I think I experienced this before 🙁

[glad kettle]

Unless you instantly get into barb chaining and want to maintain being top 10

[warped heart]

that would be impossible in the early game as you need the speeds to get the required tech to be able to mine but doing so there are also others doing the exact same thing as you do but most just blatantly bots it

[austere drum]

Please do not play for 16h a day

[glad kettle]

^

[warped heart]

well that's just the required thing for f2p, need to sink in much hours to not get kicked out of the alliance

in early game

[glad kettle]

yeah

That's why I said monthly

or actually I forgot

growth fund is really good too

[gusty bone]

I have 100$ for starter

[warped heart]

just play and see if you like it

upfront experience is the greatest teacher

[gusty bone]

Also I need farms I'm guessing

[glad kettle]

I would recommend at least one

[fresh crescent]

fake frogsworth 😭

[glad kettle]

aura

[warped heart]

early game you need alot of rss, even in soc for healing troops but it's definitely necessary to have atleast one or just buy rss

in the bazaar

[gusty bone]

Im thinking having 4 and making them good I think I can suffer 2 months or so

[glad kettle]

that would drive me crazy

i only have 2 farms

[gusty bone]

How about I wait and start with 300 $ iand monthly 20$ so I can skip some suffering xd?

[glad kettle]

dont sink that much money into the game straight away lol

[gusty bone]

Is that enough?

[glad kettle]

probably

I would just stick to one though at least for the start

[warped heart]

idk

[gusty bone]

Np

[gusty bone]

I have a PC and mobile I may play at the same time for saving time xd

[gusty bone]

Last question

[glad kettle]

sure

[gusty bone]

I saw ppl talking about chaing babrbs early game like it's infinite how they do it I saw late game is easy

[glad kettle]

you cant do the infinite barb chain anymore

[gusty bone]

Why? And I'm glad xd

[glad kettle]

they fixed it

[gusty bone]

What they changed

[gusty bone]

Nice

[glad kettle]

you had to summon barbarians in order for it to work

they increased the cooldown of summoning them

[gusty bone]

So we spend cp like anyone else right?

[glad kettle]

[glad kettle]

action points bro

[gusty bone]

This doesn't change late game chain

[glad kettle]

nope

late game you can still chain a lo

t

[gusty bone]

Nice

That's I need speeds that bad then

But do you recommend I spend all my AP early ?in lohar event

I mean those ap bottles

[glad kettle]

I mean it's not a terrible idea early game unless you're chaining a ton

[gusty bone]

Chaining is impossible in early right? Mobs die fast and aoe if that epic commander is not big enough

[glad kettle]

if you get richard+ athelflaed you can barb chain

then eventually YSG if you go the archer route

[gusty bone]

Ok I understand

[gusty bone]

What troops type you suggest?

I like inf ,archers I hate siege and cav

[glad kettle]

I personally think sun tzu aethel is good early game

Infantry is tanky

archer is slow but hella damage

I prefer archers at the moment

and YSG carries value into the late game

[gusty bone]

Nice

[glad kettle]

yes

[gusty bone]

Thanks bro

Give me your YouTube channel

I will follow you

[glad kettle]

It's Apostolos ROK

[main knoll]

cav all the way

sigma sigma on the wall whats the coolest troop type of them all

[glad kettle]

Atilla

[glad kettle]

SIEGE

[main knoll]

nah

[glad kettle]

siege siege siege

[main knoll]

i love my attila

[glad kettle]

atilla is lowkey goated

especially in artifact kvks

[gusty bone]

Ty

[glad kettle]

Thanks for the support bro

[main knoll]

cav all the way from kvk 1 to soc

ez

can add others along the way

its not optimal but its coolest

[glad kettle]

I feel like cav is underpowered early game unless you're whaling on minamoto

[main knoll]

id not call minamoto whaly tbh

[glad kettle]

fair

$200 USD

[main knoll]

compared to others cav is also underpowered in soc if you look in detail

but every troop type got its ups and downs

[glad kettle]

I personally think cav is pretty good

maybe it's because im on the recieving end of their punishment

[main knoll]

well comparing it to others

infs and archers do slighty better rn

but still cav is absolute sigma

i am and will always be cavmain

[glad kettle]

siege main

gangamchan is an insanely strong dueling march tho

[main knoll]

i like arthur ach ngl

for hopping attila ach and for rally too

ach is goat

[glad kettle]

achilles is insane

[main knoll]

he carrying my soc lineup like mina carries my restart lineup

[glad kettle]

achilles + sargon has almost the same dps as qsh + ysg btw

well sargon + achilles

in that order

[main knoll]

lmao

sounds wonky

[fallen tiger]

lol

[main knoll]

are you THE corka?

[tall moat]

nope, went to the account that popped it, i even left the alliance joined a farm alliance and tpd to the corner of the map (idk why just felt funky)

[fringe sable]

Well better it's like this just have to assume things when anyone haven't tried it before

[flat hemlock]

Hello, I had a question! After how many players of the Thutmose kingdom does it appear in the daily offers?

[tall moat]

this is becoming fun, i aska question, and respond to you a few days later after i finally try it 😂

[fallen tiger]

Yessirr

[main knoll]

danm

[noble bough]

About migration, why is it that a guy cant migrate from a season 3 kingdom to another season 3 kingdom? The game says that his account is older than 80 days, but they are in the same season though, is there a way around it ?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[glad kettle]

it's to prevent people with old powerful accounts from migrating to earlier kingdoms

[noble bough]

Understood. Just very confusing when it says same season kingdoms can migrate to same season kingdoms

[glad kettle]

rok is confusing in general

[torn egret]

how do you get these armament converters?

was it an old thing?

[vagrant rampart]

is there any pity system on the tavern chests for epic and legendary blueprints ?

[torn egret]

i don’t believe so

[fresh crescent]

someone bought 1k worth of gcs on fountain of dreams by accident

[thorny falcon]

Good

Take the gcs , hope you gots of good things there

[fresh crescent]

feel bad but 5d of speedups

is something

[thorny falcon]

Bro atleast got the extra 5pc gather boost lmfao

[fresh crescent]

yep

someone got 5k vip points

[flat hemlock]

Hello, I had a question! After how many day of Thutmose does it appear in the daily offers?

[vagrant rampart]

go to the season chat and select the language that you want on the top of the page besides the gear icon

[blazing condor]

Is today the egg event day? I saw some people have it and some don't

[glad kettle]

I have the dig event

I think it just depends on your kingdom

[blazing condor]

Interesting

I thought egg event is supposed to have the same date

[nova sand]

Leadership or archers

[main knoll]

depends on if you got a garrison

or planning on makin one

[nova sand]

I have qsh

But only Hera matthias

[white tapir]

Is go archer

What march were you building for?

[nova sand]

You see that's the issue

I have Hera matthias and a mix of pieces to be a somewhat trap city while also being able to field

But qsh was my original plan

[white tapir]

Is this for a farm?

Trying to make a trap city

Cause main is pretty risky to make trap city

[nova sand]

Main

[white tapir]

And you'll get more kp from Qin anyway

[nova sand]

Qin mehmed

[upper forge]

Does anyone know if there is an infantry city skin before kvk1 in lucerns?

[white tapir]

Mehmed my goat

I used Qin-purple sun tzu to test today

It cooked

[white tapir]

Pretty sure I accidentally got a 5% skin for all troop types before k1

[upper forge]

Yk which stat?

[nova sand]

This was my thrown up build for severe swarm

With full blue tercio

[main knoll]

lol

[nova sand]

Pain yes

My friends advised me on a few things to swap out as well on the road to 5 march

[main knoll]

fair fair

once you got a 5 march you can work on a city garrison

oe just awaken your stuff

[nova sand]

Mostly he suggested like hope cloak

Those inf and archer pieces that give a lot of stats

[main knoll]

i mean idk what your main troop type in city is

[nova sand]

Cav

But not by a huge margin since I run all types

Including siege. Yes siege

[white tapir]

Got multiple, attack and health

[main knoll]

its a fair troop type ngl

[nova sand]

Real

[white tapir]

If someone refunded a purchase and can't do anything with their account, does that go away soon?

Guy in my alliance did that, he contacted vip support but they sleepin

[thorny falcon]

Wdym

How much purchase refunded?

[onyx raptor]

Does anyone know when the first ever mtg starts? Kd age is 39d

[main knoll]

its not first ever

its a regular cycle near end of month every month when there is no other gem event

and once you pass 21 days you get into regular cycle

and next mtg should be 23rd of may

[onyx raptor]

So far ;-;

okay thx tho

[main knoll]

wym so far

its 1 week

[onyx raptor]

Ik lmao but I wasn’t expecting it to be that far but wtv

[main knoll]

how many gems you got?

[onyx raptor]

14k+ in bag and 5k on me

[main knoll]

poor ahh

whats your vip?

[onyx raptor]

once I get ch 25 I’ll but growth fund

[onyx raptor]

I’m saving my gems for that I’m vip 8 rn

[main knoll]

hm

[onyx raptor]

We’re not in kvk1 yet soo

[main knoll]

whats your pwr

[main knoll]

starts at day 85 or so so you still got double the time left

[onyx raptor]

3.8m

I have t4 tho

[main knoll]

oh

[onyx raptor]

and I plan to get my second t4 rn

[main knoll]

hm

how many days of speeds you got in your bag?

[onyx raptor]

Not much after my first t4 I’ll get more tho

From bf

[main knoll]

oh

are you in top alliance?

[white tapir]

Just A couple GC for the cosmetic event

[honest perch]

Is this no immigration thing only for these 4 kingdoms upcoming? Like to 4101

[stable flame]

how much did it took y'all to get the special chat UI from fountain of dreams

[thorny falcon]

they will refund it and take out all the rewards - its easy tbf

just ask for flux rather than the money - easier way to get stuff done

[inland dust]

Where do you get clomyks?

[white tapir]

It took $20 in clamyks

[white tapir]

No this person already refunded via bank I think, and then got limited by the game for refund abuse

[thorny falcon]

how many days?

[ripe frost]

$$$

[white tapir]

Not sure, they don't seem to know when they'll get it back

So tryna talk to vip support

[inland dust]

So pretty Much the event is just for P2W and No F2P then

[white tapir]

Yeah

[shell zenith]

Is upgrading from arch to pincer worth it for LC/Philip?

[vagrant vine]

Hi Guys, Im in KVK 1 now and main on infantry march. I heard in kvk 2 there is qsh which is the strongest march , should i invest on archer equipment for now instead of focusing gear for my infantry?

[unborn wasp]

Hi guys! Does anyone know anything about new servers with pioneer status? (4097, 4098,4099,4100) When this status subsides or something else

[warped heart]

depends on Lilith's mood

[unborn wasp]

I got you

[stable flame]

Hawt dayum

[crisp isle]

why my token from fountain of dream disappeir ?
anyone have same issue?

[fringe sable]

Well that's why this community is for lol

Make assumptions try it on paper by reading the lines and then someone tries it so things can be countered and made more perfect

[white tapir]

Should I use ysg-herman for garrison in OL

Swapped out my good comms

And can't use SOC comms even though we got them

So it's ysg-herman or ysg-cid(5231)

[stray hamlet]

Chatgpt says:

go with YSG–Hermann for garrison in OL.

[vagrant cedar]

How can i have more than 2 characters in the same kingdom in early game? Im at 4096, would like to start a few farm accounts to use them maybe in 20 days or so

[silk nacelle]

my kingdoms is 29d rn i have 80k gem,should i wait for MTG or just get it rn ( i can get vip10 by gc from my whale tho ).I just invested all my gh to CM 5211,should i try to get rc1111 to do barb chain and saving all my gh to get ysg in kvk1 or going all in CM ? ( I dont do barb chain a lot )

[stray hamlet]

gotta use a other account, with a other email

[vagrant cedar]

damm

Also, bluestacks isnt allowed right? or it is

Dont want my accounts to get banned

[warped heart]

you can't, they restrict migration until kvk2

[stray hamlet]

why use bluestacks tho

just use rok launcher

[vagrant cedar]

So gmail is the only option

[vagrant cedar]

for multi instance, i manage them manually but so i can have them all opened, but if its not allowed then ill do it on phone switching between them

[warped heart]

first off, why would you invest your gold heads on a gold key commander
second, I think you don't have enough to get ysg expertise so I wouldnt recommend

[stray hamlet]

ah, i have no clue if its allowed or not. but I wouldn´t see a reason why not

[warped heart]

it's allowed

[vagrant cedar]

U sure? I tried using it and the account got banned

idk why

[stray hamlet]

never invest gh into goldkey commanders

[vagrant cedar]

@warped heart

[warped heart]

can't tell, possibly because the ch level is too low

[timid lagoon]

Hey guys when the new server open?

[vagrant cedar]

Why ban for that? how am i supposed to do it if i get banned when im upgrading it xD

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </newserver:1374685106241011713>

[warped heart]

idk

[stray hamlet]

no one knows

[warped heart]

they're sensitive for bots

[vagrant cedar]

Ye but i was playing it manually, even without click sincronized on other instances

Just want to have them opened, i dont use bots and wont use sincronized click to not get banned, then idk why i got banned

[warped heart]

idk, you tell that to lilith not me

[vagrant cedar]

yeye i know

anyone here uses bluestacks for farms?

[silk nacelle]

civil war at first if i dont get him 5111 i wont have a chance to stand in 20+gc per day 😭 also i can do swap cmd in kvk2 tho.I just dont know what to do next,CM or Ysg ? Should i try to get rc too ?

so do i need to get vip10 rn or just get vip from gc and wait for mtg to get closer to v12 ?

[warped heart]

if you can't defeat them, join them

would rather join the winning side to incur less losses than use more resources in your disposal at the cost of delaying your progress

[warped heart]

go VIP10 then save

[warped crag]

Yo best clavs legendary boots?

[fringe sable]

The set boots

[alpine bane]

Hello,
does anyone know how i can write massages in the restart.projects discord? It says that i don´t have permition do write something?

[timid lagoon]

Any project in 4100?

[lone crystal]

Is it possible to get iconic crystals in offseason?

[mighty viper]

Read #❓〡recruit․rules to the end

[alpine bane]

thanks

[small pebble]

Lost kingdom map opens at reset im f2p running 1 march and i curently have 5 legendary equipment is that good?

i will also run a siege march

[split heath]

Hi, do you get ash of dawn in every lost canyon shop even in soc?

[thorny falcon]

yes

[plain gyro]

kvk 2?

[split heath]

Thx

[mental walrus]

What kvk

[small pebble]

k2

[small pebble]

yes k2

[mental walrus]

I mean yeah it’s good if you made the right pieces

[small pebble]

i just finished playing my first k1 in this game like 1 month ago

was rly fun

[small pebble]

let me share 1 second

this what i will run on my siege march

to many materials to craft purple

[mental walrus]

Oh ok nice

Good job not crafting the coveted shios

[mental walrus]

I would only run if you are winning a ball fight

[small pebble]

also how many iconic crystals will i get in k2?

[small pebble]

k

problem is that the armaments are dog shit on both 😭

10.8% health and artisan are nice

but yeah

[mental walrus]

I mean ur in k2

It’ll be bad for everyone

[mental walrus]

At least one, not sure how many are from achievements

[plain gyro]

so many ppl doin that for some reason

they have 3 pcs

[mental walrus]

They see first legendary
They decide to craft because they think it good

[plain gyro]

but ruins it by crafting shios

rip extra ms

[mental walrus]

They wouldn’t know how important it is

Or if that even was a thing

[plain gyro]

i swear ive seen hundreds of mfs doin that

especially young acc

[mental walrus]

🤷‍♂️

[mental walrus]

It’s called being inexperienced

[plain gyro]

btw

[plain gyro]

where would u go after u finish k4?

to what i know, redo k4 as much as possible

but idk wats after that

[thorny falcon]

its not a big deal - if people spend to the tune of ~100 to 200 usd a month it can be ignored tbf

they can quickly get iconic 5 on it

and crit ofc

it all comes down to how much they spend

[mental walrus]

Idk

[mental walrus]

Still not better than four piece

And you have to do that much just to not be on par

When you could’ve made the actual good piece

[thorny falcon]

bruh i did 5 bill kp without that 4 piece eternal march - didnt matter, wont matter now nor in the future . Its fine

[mental walrus]

Doesn’t matter?

Still disregards the fact that it’s not a good piece

You can slap all bad legendary gear and still get kp off of it

That’s not the problem

The problem is that there’s better pieces to craft which will allow you to get MORE kp than you would’ve gotten

[thorny falcon]

depends on what players want honestly - no set rules, i just get march speed from crystal tech, 4 piece iconic 1 eternal stuff simply gets overwhelmed anyway

i just do kp targets tbf - anything more is a waste of time and speeds - all im saying is, there are no absolute rules depending on spend level - cuz crystal tech makes a lot of diff

[plain gyro]

ms is a game changer

[thorny falcon]

well for you it is i guess

[fickle ore]

It is in general

[thorny falcon]

Ok whatever suits you bruh 👍

[fickle ore]

Ok bruh👍

[fickle ore]

From what i know after that u go into an older kd since first soc is usually rough for native kds

[plain gyro]

ok

[neon obsidian]

I just started, is 300k power good for level 8 city hall because I see a variety of different power in other players

And how do I know if my power is competitive or good for my city hall's level?

[fluid ember]

Fk bro I cant play for a while

[fluid ember]

What kingdom r u

[acoustic veldt]

Hey, anyone know this website ? I discover it today, seems usefull for prepare swap event : https://douk1ng.github.io/gathering-of-heroes-calculator/

[flat phoenix]

If i dont have a pair for qsh and im in soc is it bad if i make my zl from 5511 to 5551

Planning to skip cavs and i have 330 gh

[mental walrus]

already something similar in the pins here

[mental walrus]

zl is better expertised, that way you get his rage engine

and if you dont have ysg, zhuge is top pair for qin anyways

[flat phoenix]

Yeah but investing in him now ughhh nahhh

[mental walrus]

yeah, so you have to make a decision here

[flat phoenix]

Atleast should i make him 5551

[mental walrus]

i mean sure

[flat phoenix]

Thx for the answer 😊

[heavy sail]

can anyone dm me a discord server that gives tips and all about the game?

[mental walrus]

this server right here

check the pins for guidance

[half belfry]

can i still fix a acc in matchmaking for kvk3 but kvk1 commander so that its usable for fighting

[mighty viper]

Generally not

[half belfry]

rather use as a filler?

[mighty viper]

You can, but without KVK3 (SOC) commanders you will struggle

[rose narwhal]

Nah for filling it doesn't matter much tbh

[fluid ember]

Anything worth buying in vip shop

[rose narwhal]

everything that costs rss

[fluid ember]

Resources?

[high linden]

yep

grab all that costs rss

since ur early game i'd be wary of how much rss ur spending

and make sure u have enough rss for ch

[fluid ember]

Im ch 21 rn

Any reason to save these?

[high linden]

yep save those

they'll be useful later on for barbs

[cosmic wadi]

what to work on on my archer equipment? i can make soc weapon and the pants for the set

[thorny falcon]

make a second march tbf

[cosmic wadi]

i run 4 marches i dont want a 5th one

[thorny falcon]

ohhh ok, this set is nice - dont dismantle

you lose 50% mats

[fluid ember]

How much this cost to getM

[cosmic wadi]

i wanted to dismantle a little tbh 😭

[thorny falcon]

48k gems a month - that gives 15 mats and like 1 bp

[fluid ember]

Im tryna focus on gear but idk how it cost

[fluid ember]

From where?

I have the gems for that

[thorny falcon]

holy knights treasure event - 100 spins

[fluid ember]

I gave no legendary gear

[cosmic wadi]

welp i spend like 300$ and can almost make a soc weapon xD

[thorny falcon]

event comes after day 50 or something

[fluid ember]

Day 50....

[thorny falcon]

after that you get it every month

[cosmic wadi]

@thorny falcon or work on icons?

[fluid ember]

Bro thats in 46 days from me

[dawn solar]

99.99% of gamblers quit before they win big

[thorny falcon]

boots are they shios??

[cosmic wadi]

i have them too crit

[thorny falcon]

anyway icon 5 boots

for the march speed

[cosmic wadi]

tbh i wanna keep shios for main march

[thorny falcon]

well people say dont , but for me its easier to get those shio bps

[cosmic wadi]

yeah

i can make it V i got all bp

[thorny falcon]

your choice tbh 10% march speed is a lot, think through it since you have both eternal and shio crit

[thorny falcon]

yeah after that it comes every month

[cosmic wadi]

that's right

or i risk it and try crit archers weapon or cavs weapon/helmet

that's my cavs gear

[thorny falcon]

no dont crit, do iconics first

[cosmic wadi]

so u say focus on main march now?

[thorny falcon]

id work on boots of infa first - their iconics

[split heath]

Lf sugar mommy to invest in clamyks on my acc 👉👈

[thorny falcon]

sure i need one too lmfao

[cosmic wadi]

i dont think i have enough for V

[lone crystal]

Does anyone have a picture of a gold helmet eternal empire crit??

[lyric stone]

“Hola, soy jugador activo F2P. ¿Alguien tiene una farm o cuenta vieja que ya no use?”

[fringe sable]

Wdym

[lyric stone]

“Looking for an old unused farm account. Active F2P player.”

[lone crystal]

ok so like i literally just got crit but i got too excited and didn't take a ss. I was lowk gonna show my friends but its too late ;-;

[fringe sable]

Well I can't help with that lol

Better be patient next time

[lone crystal]

[tall moat]

realiustically how many marches can you run as a low spender and some grinding? (in terms of keeping up with speedup costs)

[lone crystal]

2 tops, unless you somehow have mad speeds or rss

maybe 3 if you are really active. archer, inf, cav meta

[neon obsidian]

4094

[lapis hearth]

Is there any recharge event soon?

[cosmic wadi]

how much i need to spend to hit vip 19 from vip 16?

[junior dust]

what should i do from here i have the eternal shield i can craft but my clan mate is recommending i just go for the hammer with i cant get till next kvk

[cosmic wadi]

go for hammer

[junior dust]

you think so too? damn i wasted gems getting the shield for nothing

should i still go for the set?

[cosmic wadi]

welp

with hammer u make more damage

i go for that

and put my shield i had on second gear

i mean u can get the shield if u really need it but i would wait for next kvk

[junior dust]

wait your bottom set is 3/4 on the eternal set bonus is there a reason your not switching

i’ve never felt so lost

[cosmic wadi]

haha because my main is 2/6

[junior dust]

oo just the luck you got

i get it

[cosmic wadi]

annyway im working on my iconics now

[junior dust]

so between now and next kvk i should craft the horn and get the blueprints for the set gloves ?

[cosmic wadi]

i mean u can go same like me

its actually good

[junior dust]

ye i like your top set you have the same 4 pieces i already have rn

[cosmic wadi]

i had those reports with the gear when it wasn't all crit

[junior dust]

damn hammer is tuff

[cosmic wadi]

when its crit its really nice

my first hammer was crit instant xD

[junior dust]

i just thought the shield would be good for tankiness cause i’m t4 rn

[cosmic wadi]

go for hammer trust

[junior dust]

i mean my helm and pants were crit but i’ve been unlucky since

[cosmic wadi]

its always better

[cosmic wadi]

still good

[junior dust]

thanks now i’m sitting on 120 legendary matt’s with nothing to craft and dismantled all my sunset gear🫩

[cosmic wadi]

not a single crit for my archer gear so 💀

[cosmic wadi]

hahaha my farm is sitting on so many too i got no bp XD

[junior dust]

i guess i’ll go redraft gatekeeper shield back💔

recraft*

[cosmic wadi]

[junior dust]

oof i’m guessing you’ve been making leather?

[cosmic wadi]

its my farm i just use it for garrison

but got no bp

[junior dust]

ok i was only able to get 1 coin this kvk cause kingsland ended early so im not getting the next coin till the end of next kvk

unless i some how spend 50 mil more crystals and duel a lot

[cosmic wadi]

u can trade

[serene creek]

How are people getting that lightning bird profile theme

[lapis hearth]

When is museum event? Should I just buy gem supply now or wait?

[trail thunder]

Can someone send me gems

[cosmic wadi]

no

[vagrant rampart]

no

[frail cobalt]

Guys have a question

If I have a vacation ticket and sleep my account whats the migration cost?

[subtle viper]

where can i find da project that i can join ?

[mild gust]

Bro should I get qin will he be meta in 3-5 months that’s when I can get him 5555

[mighty viper]

#1250017171145359381

[frail cobalt]

Does anyone know?

[mighty viper]

Here you go

[torn egret]

is it worth refilling march speed for attack?

[frail cobalt]

I know this but how does sleeping with vacation ticket change it?

[torn egret]

i’d have to use a transmutation crystal and the attack might be low tbh

but march speeds pretty buns

[mighty viper]

No

[frail cobalt]

Like does it reduce the cost more?

[mighty viper]

No

[frail cobalt]

It doesn't change?

[mighty viper]

No

[rose narwhal]

You may be able to trigger team migration but the vacation permit would eventually expire

[frail cobalt]

It says the vacation permit is permanent

[rose narwhal]

It goes away at the end of the season

It should anyways

[frail cobalt]

If I get a new vacation permit does it reduce the cost future?

[rose narwhal]

If you get a new one sure

As long as you migrate while it's active

But it doesn't stack w team migration

[frail cobalt]

Oh

And does anyone know what are the passport cost for team migration?

[rose narwhal]

Nah

For 90M was 55 or some iirc

It's a bigger cut that the vac permit

[neon obsidian]

Yo, is there Alexander the Great as a commander in the game?

[rose narwhal]

Iirc

Yes

[neon obsidian]

How can I get him?

[mighty viper]

Yes, but he’s not a worthwhile investment for most players

[rose narwhal]

Wheel of fortune but he's not truly useful anymore

[mighty viper]

Wheel of fortune event in KVK2

[neon obsidian]

I just want Alexander I don't care if he's not good

I'll try to get him

Thanks

[mighty viper]

It would be a waste of time and resources, but you do you

[neon obsidian]

I'm Greek

[frail cobalt]

Btw what is better moving to k4 or seed A?

[rose narwhal]

Can you keep up in an A seed?

[mighty viper]

Whatever you feel is going to be better for the growth of your account

[rose narwhal]

People go back to K4 for easier kills against natives for the most part tbh

To have more time for SOC as well

Before^

But you being vip 19 that 2nd point is pretty irrelevant

[frail cobalt]

I already have 5 marches with 2 full t5 marches not sure I should go to k4 with my restart or bring it with me

I mean 2 full icon 5

[rose narwhal]

I mean honestly do you like the kingdom your restart is on?

I'd do whatever makes you enjoy the game the most honestly, if you like your kingdoms restart and the speedup Regen allows you to fight properly and RSS are easily obtainable sure why not

If you want svip and hella speeds you may wanna go to an A seed but idk if they'd take a native account, assuming your restart isn't in an A seed in K4

[frail cobalt]

Tbh a big consideration is the restart have lot more people who speak english make the communication fun

[rose narwhal]

Do you know how speedup Regen looks on the restart?

[frail cobalt]

No my restart is a R4 on A seed

[rose narwhal]

And how easily obtainable rss are? In case you don't farm

[frail cobalt]

Non kvk it's better than my main like 6 alliance chest a day and we have 3 svip in k3

[rose narwhal]

Tbh that's insanely good

Knowing your fighting capabilities do you think going to the K4 kingdom would allow you to keep fighting normally?

You should do what you find most fun honestly but your account is probs big so you know, just make sure wherever you go you can keep up and it doesn't fuck you over because it's not enough

[frail cobalt]

I can fight anywhere but imperium as I am a garrison n rally with full icon 5

But a big reason I want to go to k4 is most people speak english and are active around same time

[rose narwhal]

So you'd enjoy K4 a lot more I guess?

[placid carbon]

Can i play aoo silver league if alliance is signed up for osiris league? I can sign up for aoo silver league

[fresh crescent]

After one Lucerne scroll is complete when does the next one come out

[rose narwhal]

Few days downtime then it comes

Like 4-5 days

[mighty viper]

Yes, silver league should be on an individual basis

[lapis hearth]

Can you do aoo if your in Osiris league?

[serene creek]

How do i get that lightning bird profile background ????

[mighty viper]

No, you get to pick one or the other

[unkempt lake]

Need to be SVIP

aka spend a lot of $$$

[lethal jacinth]

should i buy speeds with gems every week with farms

or vip

and stuff

[shell zenith]

If I have LC/Philip on Arch is it worth converting to pincer or just leaving as is?

[mental walrus]

better if pincer

[shell zenith]

Okay thank you ☺️

[humble totem]

What Skill pattern should QSH have? Also, what is the best Talent Tree for him with a QSH/YSG pairing?

[dawn isle]

Nope

[dawn isle]

Wedge 2

[humble totem]

No, skill numbers. Sorry, I meant 5551, 5515?

[dawn isle]

Ohh
Qsh is better at 5515

You need the last skill's rage advantage

[fickle ore]

No

1555

[humble totem]

How long have you played this game?

[humble totem]

How long have you played?

Because I need a definite answer. Not a guess.

[fickle ore]

Its 1555 bro

[dawn isle]

💀?

[fickle ore]

🥀

[dawn isle]

You skipping that 40%?

[dawn isle]

A year bruh
There's noway 1555 is better, literally the main skill 😭

[fickle ore]

Yes

[dawn isle]

@mental walrus sir we might need your help 🙏🏻 sorry on ping btw but I also wonder which is better 👀

[rose narwhal]

budget build is 1551 for qsh iirc

so 1555 might be a thing

[humble totem]

Why would 1555 be better? And have you played this game long, @fickle ore ?
Also, I've been told that Jesko is correct.

[heavy bolt]

the first skill kinda mid

[humble totem]

Listen, I have 298 gold heads so I need a definite answer.

[heavy bolt]

the rest of the skills is where the damage is coming from

[humble totem]

Okay, why is the first skill bad?

[fickle ore]

Gave u the answer bud

[heavy bolt]

if you read it you can see that it does literally nothing compared to the other skills

[fickle ore]

But u keep tripping about play time lol

[fickle ore]

Its not bad the other skills r better

[humble totem]

My feet are kinda clumsy, yes. Lol
So 1555, final answer? And what Talents are best?

[high linden]

1555 is theoretically better build but better to do 5551 cuz chances are you're not getting 1555

[heavy bolt]

i just unlocked everything and let it roll when i skilled him up

[fickle ore]

Who doesnt love gambling

[humble totem]

I have faith, so that counts. Besides, I once gained 5515 with YSG. Good things happen to me.

[high linden]

Just do 5551

[humble totem]

Of course, it took one skill reset but whatever.

[high linden]

It's not big difference anyways

[heavy bolt]

last skill is good

[humble totem]

I'm going for 1555. I like my odds! 😉

[heavy bolt]

go 4444

[fickle ore]

Thats bad luck in china

3333🙏

[heavy bolt]

lol

2345

[humble totem]

Sighs Talents?

[fickle ore]

Works

[heavy bolt]

here brah

[fickle ore]

Scroll up

sighs

[humble totem]

Same as my resource seller.

[heavy bolt]

still will outperform my ww

[humble totem]

He gave me the same talents. Interesting.

Anyway, thanks!

[heavy bolt]

man you must not trust him lol

[mental walrus]

1555

[humble totem]

See? Pokemon gamer genius right here.

[mental walrus]

Doesn’t matter tbh

[humble totem]

Aaaaaand my luck sucks.....

Need a skill reset. Damn.

[heavy bolt]

whats ur ysg

[mental walrus]

No you don’t just expertise him

[humble totem]

I got it. I'll try to get 1555.

[mighty viper]

Nah just max him lol

[humble totem]

Pikachu has spoken. I must obey. #PikachuClan

[rose narwhal]

#PikachuChan

[queen inlet]

[fresh crescent]

5555 aethelflaed is useless right

only 5511 needed?

for kvk

and also

for second commanders in general

they dont need lvl 60 ?

[heavy bolt]

yeah

5511 is fine

[fresh crescent]

i mean like

is 5555 needed?

for better performance

and do 2nd commanders have to be lvl 60?

[high linden]

it will perform better thats for sure

but 5511 is fine for kvk1

kvk2 should exp and it'll be good

[high linden]

nah

unless u plan to swap around your secondaries

but i normally just 4 star them

[torn egret]

worth transmuting for inf attack?

[fresh crescent]

alr

[potent jackal]

Does anyone know what has actually been implemented regarding migrating during the preparation season

I saw that some people were still able to do sleepers and that there will be some in my server, can I still do the sleeper process myself? Current KD is about 10 days old

[mighty viper]

The game has now made it clear what kingdoms are pioneering the new rules

[jaunty tide]

Guys a quick question, if i buy a flux script of 4,99 USD can i use it to purchase a bundle that costs 5,99€? It should cost 4,99$ but since i'm in EU that's the price

[high linden]

Flux scrips can only purchase bundles of their equivalent value

Eg. $5 flux can buy $5 bundle, not 5 $1 bundles

[jaunty tide]

I know but i don’t know if the bundle value is considered 4,99$

[jaunty tide]

Like these bundles, they are listed at 5,99€ but if my country had USD currency would they be priced at 4.99$? And does the game consider that?

[high linden]

Use a converter to check

Actually I've got zero idea

[jaunty tide]

I looked at some video online and these bundles are priced at 4,99$ so i think it should work, otherwise it would be a basically useles flux script

[jaunty tide]

It worked! :D

[uneven totem]

Is it good to save up gems for ysg (f2p, and only vip 8)

[thorny falcon]

no

save ghs for qin , not ysg

[uneven totem]

Isnt qin so long to arrived? I am at preperation season in 4079

[thorny falcon]

qin is a meta breaker march - just so op. You will have to wait till kvk 3 , but yeah its like this - "good things happen to people who wait"

and dont invest in ysg now, its just not needed - all your gems go into vip and gear , target vip12 followed by a good amount of gear pieces and then switch back to vip - move to 14

[rose narwhal]

Well YSG can be used for Chains and with QSH I mean

[mental walrus]

No. Only 10 spin his wheels and put your gems into vip during mtg

Check pins for a starter guide

[thorny falcon]

tjats a really really bad idea - you dont get enough ghs to exp him as a f2p and aeth does the same with semicirle aoe

[mighty viper]

People unfortunately still act like YSG is a god like must have commander

[thorny falcon]

ysg is decent as a place holder but thats about it imo

[rose narwhal]

Oh well if he's F2p it's borderline impossible then

I jumped in with no context tbh that's my bad

[mighty viper]

The most common reason people cite for getting YSG as a F2P/low spender is for chaining

That and people are so high on archers because of QSH they see any archer commander as necessary regardless of cost

[mental walrus]

you use ysg for k1 and k2 and then you swap during swap event

[mighty viper]

YSG isn’t a swap…

[mental walrus]

why not

[thorny falcon]

whats the point of using him when you cant exp lol, aeth does the same job

[mental walrus]

yeah only if you can exp

[mighty viper]

Most say to keep him for QSH secondary

[mental walrus]

not for f2p

or low spend

you swap for better commander

unless you're a chronic chainer

[thorny falcon]

by the time new players reach SOC, there will be a new archer which im sure will make qin secondary

[mental walrus]

then you keep

[mighty viper]

Sov says differently and he gets aggressive when I correct him

[mental walrus]

nah he wrong

not for f2p/low spender, maybe low spender but defo not f2p unless you chain a lot

[thorny falcon]

so no point in going for ysg like nickname said unless they are sure of getting vip 14 and still manage to exp - replace ysg

[mighty viper]

You feel free to tell him that. He’s a self proclaimed “archer main”

[mental walrus]

@short oasis noob

[thorny falcon]

which translates to mid and high spenders

[rose narwhal]

[mighty viper]

There’s plenty of lower and mid spenders who think it’s viable nowadays

[short oasis]

Uh huh

[thorny falcon]

bruh remove qin and archers are as good as cavs , unlike infas who have many comms going for them - lc,bq and stp prime archers are in a similar spot as cavs if you keep expanding marches

[thorny falcon]

they will end up quitting due to power creep sadly

[mental walrus]

uh no if you remove qin archers are worst troop type by far

[short oasis]

Don't believe a word he says about me bye

[thorny falcon]

and i actually agree with lilith doing this , cuz archer gear is the most p2w by far

[mental walrus]

are the allegations true or false

[stable flame]

why cant i use soc coms in coa

[rose narwhal]

Sov gathering

[rose narwhal]

Are u in kvk 3

[stable flame]

[stable flame]

nrn

[rose narwhal]

If u mean coo iirc u have to actually enter K3

[rose narwhal]

What

What the hell does that mean 😭

[short oasis]

I read it over and seems he's bullshitting, I got a zone fight to deal with rather than argue with a loser with a pathetic ego

[stable flame]

not right now

[mental walrus]

ok

[rose narwhal]

Oh

[stable flame]

im in pre kvk 3

[mental walrus]

that's probably why?

[rose narwhal]

Then ye if u meant Olympia I believe you need to actually enter kvk

[stable flame]

OH ALR

[mighty viper]

You need to be in KVK3 or beyond to access KVK3 (SOC) commanders

[stable flame]

thanks

[rose narwhal]

🗣️

[mighty viper]

I seem to remember you advocating for F2P getting YsG because he’s good, perhaps I was mistaken

Or just archers in general for F2P low spenders

[wooden patrol]

But how can you expertise him for kvk? It seems impossible

[stable flame]

has anyone ever tried buying fluxes on 3rd party websites?

[rose narwhal]

Buying all writers of history and getting vip 10-12 very early

[rose narwhal]

Not me nope

[thorny falcon]

whats this obsession with ysg, he is a mid commander

most kd councils are run by idiots - they dont know what they are doing , i see a lot them encouraging players to get ysg and thats downright terrible atp

remove the full circle aoe, now ysg has nothing going for him - and full circle aoe is already provided by qin from the moment you get him

[thorny falcon]

i dont cuz if they steal my cc or debit card details its curtains

[rose narwhal]

Well yes the argument of removing what makes a commander good making him useless is not really valid now is it

[mighty viper]

Circle AOE for chaining, and the fact that most players haven’t actually played non-SOC in years

[thorny falcon]

the thing is even with aoe ysg is mid

and i wouldnt recommend chaining in kvk 1 anyway with those weak commanders

in SOC there are way superior options - i run huo-hera, thats level above anything richard provides

so for mid / high spenders ysg is just trash

[mighty viper]

Most sweaty F2P claim that not chaining is basically like not playing the game

[fickle ore]

Son

[mighty viper]

[fickle ore]

He is literally the secondary to the best commander

😭✌️

[thorny falcon]

okay kiddo , now go touch some grass

thats a dumb ass way of validating a commander when archers are uttershite when qin is removed

You lot make new players invest in trash atp

[fickle ore]

Oh no a troop type is bad when u take away good stuff from them🥲

[mighty viper]

Cavs are too if you remove Arthur

[thorny falcon]

they arent atilla achilles is good - a lot depends on the gear quality

my point is in kvk 3 mid/high spenders should swap out ysg

[fickle ore]

[mighty viper]

Atilla in 2026

[fickle ore]

A high spender would keep ysg to focus on getting more marches

But ight

Whatever helps you sleep at night

[thorny falcon]

and low spenders / f2p should be nowhere near ysg

bruh i spend more than most people in the game, so yeah ik what im saying

[mighty viper]

High spenders have enough other gold key commanders to make swaps with

[fickle ore]

Money doesnt buy knowledge unfortunately

Since u seem to be fielding atilla

🥀

[thorny falcon]

and not having commanders doesnt make you knowledgable about them either

archer mains telling me this is a joke tbf

[fickle ore]

Yeah im not gonna invest in atilla in the big 26

[mighty viper]

But it sure does smash the F2Ps who claim to be smart

[fickle ore]

Sorry

[fickle ore]

[thorny falcon]

ngl i target all these meta spammers in kvk , love doing it tbf

[rose narwhal]

Cavs are bad regardless you mean

[mighty viper]

Uh yeah that’s right

[thorny falcon]

tell me something,whats the second best archer march? herman-zhuge , thats azz

[mighty viper]

Infantry reigns supreme

[rose narwhal]

Yes well lucky for me I am an infa main

So I can say fuck archers indeed

[thorny falcon]

atp infa > cavs > archer for people running multiple marches of the same type

[fickle ore]

Lets chill out ight?

[rose narwhal]

[thorny falcon]

2-2-2 setup - archers are the worst to field (2nd march) - id rather go seige atp

[fickle ore]

Go siege then

[thorny falcon]

dw i will do that

[lethal jacinth]

what in the world

is this

[uneven totem]

Uhhh okay i will not grab ysg

[ornate mantle]

What is better?

1. BQ(5511)/LC(5555)
2. STP(5515)/BQ(5511)

[fickle ore]

Stp lc