❓〡questions

[fresh crescent]

plus

ive been lucky enough to get thutmose to 4

through gold chests

[gaunt mantle]

Yeah

dont run archers

sorry to say

For archers to be actually decent in kvk 1 you need both thutmose and YSG expertised

[fresh crescent]

so sun tzu + aet 2nd march

[gaunt mantle]

Theres a spreadsheet in the pinned messages

details all the marches

from kvk 1 - soc

[gaunt mantle]

pyrrhus/sun is decent

but if you cant afford pyrrhus

yes sun/aeth is good

[fresh crescent]

pyrrhus comes dailies right

[gaunt mantle]

ye

pyrrhus at 5511 is fine

[fresh crescent]

yh ill get him then

[gaunt mantle]

Run him primary

sun tzu as 2nd

[fresh crescent]

alr

[gaunt mantle]

I kinda screwed up

myself

levelled up sun instead of pyrrhus lmao

[fresh crescent]

lol

btw

would u say archer compared to other troop types is just better by a big gap

[gaunt mantle]

uhh

[fresh crescent]

is it like insane

[gaunt mantle]

I mean

idrk

[fresh crescent]

i have inf players telling me they wanna restart and do archers now

[gaunt mantle]

archers are expensive to keep sustained since you need YSG and Thutmose expertised

[silent current]

u dont need thut

just ysg

[gaunt mantle]

In my previous kd in kvk 1. We had a guy run pure archers. He rallied with them and suprisingly they were performing well

[silent current]

kvk1 will be shit kp either way so whatevs

[gaunt mantle]

Who would be 2nd commander tho

[silent current]

kvk2 will still be shit

[silent current]

idk like hermann

[gaunt mantle]

eww

hermann

[silent current]

idk man

u do archers at the start cause it means u can get qin ysg fast

[gaunt mantle]

Its kinda why I suggested he runs infantry and cavalry

[silent current]

and have half decent gear for it

[silent current]

and?? hell nah

just pick one lol

[gaunt mantle]

He wanted to run 2 marches

[silent current]

anyway inf and cav are kinda ehh

and dont have amazing 1 marches

[rancid holly]

I mean then you need phyruss and Martel expertised to play infantry too 😂

[gaunt mantle]

I even suggested to run 1 myself

[rancid holly]

people pretend there is no good epic archers

[silent current]

tell him no

[gaunt mantle]

Martel isnt needed unless your a whale

[silent current]

they arent

[gaunt mantle]

Pyrrhus sun is fine

[rancid holly]

I hope you know that kuso YSg slaps sun ysg by a long run

[rancid holly]

same with thut

[silent current]

theres commander swap

[warped heart]

Holy yippity yap

[rancid holly]

you don't need to be all gold commanders to play archers

[silent current]

just do cm sun

[gaunt mantle]

Hi cat

[rancid holly]

I played archers kvk 1 with kuso

[silent current]

or like sun cm

[rancid holly]

did amazing trades

[silent current]

and then swap the heads off cm

[gaunt mantle]

Yeah I aint spending gold heads on cm

[rancid holly]

that shi can be used a budget garrison too

[gaunt mantle]

hell no

I always stuck with cavalry myself

this time im doing infantry

[rancid holly]

hell yes

[silent current]

u both suck

anyway

[warped heart]

halo fury

[rancid holly]

people just hate for no reason "every single epic except of sun tzu is bad"

[gaunt mantle]

@fresh crescent talk to this guy. He will tell you

[rancid holly]

I mean look at this

fucking ridculous if anything

[silent current]

thats because all the other epics are shit

sun and baibars are pretty good

[gaunt mantle]

I mean sure. Positive trade but not that big of a difference

[rancid holly]

says who?

[silent current]

everyone else is shit

hermann is tolerable with ysg

[rancid holly]

you just follow what main stream youtubers say, do you own testing XD

I got Speackohs battle sim

[gaunt mantle]

Oh god I started something

[rancid holly]

tested bunch of epic marches

[gaunt mantle]

Im goine

[silent current]

but if im telling u to start with archers i couldnt give two fucks of your kp from kvk1 and 2

[gaunt mantle]

Ill let you two headbutt it out

<3

[rancid holly]

Kuso with a 5511 YSG cooked Sun Alex

[silent current]

real

[rancid holly]

in open field

[silent current]

bro

😭 im crine

[rancid holly]

doesn't help lmao

[gaunt mantle]

Holy shit I actually started an argument 😭

wtf

[rancid holly]

I can share tests with you

I have tested the marches

[silent current]

nah u didnt the other guy is just stupid

[silent current]

no one runs sun alex

[rancid holly]

says you

[silent current]

@warped heart cata dont run away bro

[rancid holly]

@gaunt mantle

what are you running K2?

[warped heart]

what

[rancid holly]

Cheok with?

[gaunt mantle]

Pyrrhus CJ

[silent current]

that actually makes sense

[rancid holly]

not bad I mean but Alex is still the most used commander in k2

[silent current]

normal damage buff onto smite aoe

[rancid holly]

"nobody uses Alex"

[warped heart]

it's ok

[gaunt mantle]

Pyrrhus sun kvk 1

[rancid holly]

alr dawg

[silent current]

not bad for kvk2

[rancid holly]

smacks

good march

[gaunt mantle]

Isnt it like the best inf march

[warped heart]

where did you get that data?

[gaunt mantle]

thats what nicks spreadsheet says

[rancid holly]

but to say that there are no good archer epics is just bs

[silent current]

no one runs alex sun they all used alex ysg

[warped heart]

yeah, I said it's ok cause it's expensive

[rancid holly]

By litterally playing kvk 2

[gaunt mantle]

Yeah but I gotta level pyrrhus up to 60 all the way from 41 LMAO

[silent current]

the kp in kvk2 is shit anyway

[rancid holly]

I mean you got time lol

[silent current]

you just earn slightly less abysmal numbers

[rancid holly]

you're not even in kvk 1 yet or are you? XD

[gaunt mantle]

Yeah shouldnt be a problem

[gaunt mantle]

We in stage 3 of pre kvk rn

[fresh crescent]

so at what point in my account do i run 2 marches

[silent current]

cause theyre shit bro 😭

[warped heart]

ask every kvk2 players there and tell me if they use Alex and tell me the percentage group of players

[gaunt mantle]

kvk 3

probably

[fresh crescent]

alr

[rancid holly]

sure

[silent current]

tbf i still use hella alex

[rancid holly]

if you say so

[silent current]

but i gotta play against bs back and fourth fights

[silent current]

i mean they factually do

idk what to tell you

[rancid holly]

prove it lol

[silent current]

you can just look bro

look at the kit

then compare the damage output to sun or baibars

just by not having no aoe reduction theyre worse

[gaunt mantle]

Okay so just rq. What do you guys suggest for kvk 2 for me then? Since im running pyrrhus Sun kvk 1.

[silent current]

run pyrrus cj

[warped heart]

it's fine, idk what your planning or goal your going for

[silent current]

worst you just swap the heads off cj

[warped heart]

if your a whale, go for cj

[silent current]

at end of kvk2

[silent current]

no? just do cj

[warped heart]

what skillset

[silent current]

then be prepared to swap the heads off it

[silent current]

idk just do like 5511 at the least

its not good kvk2

so it shouldnt overly matter

[gaunt mantle]

Well im sitting on 400 gheads rn

[warped heart]

I don't trust gathering of commanders, Hella expensive to swap

[silent current]

its getting swapped at end of kvk2 anyway

[silent current]

i mean u should be doing it anyway

[gaunt mantle]

So I will get 690 byu kvk 2 for sure

[silent current]

worst you just like

dont do gathering of heros

dont do cj

[rancid holly]

#☕〡general

[silent current]

and run pyrrus sun

[rancid holly]

look chat

[silent current]

which should still do good

[rancid holly]

i have a murder ball tester

litterally these avg ahh marches get melted by that shi

[warped heart]

try to calculate how much speeds or points you need for the commanders you need through this website I found
https://douk1ng.github.io/gathering-of-heroes-calculator/

[gaunt mantle]

Wtf is this tier sht

huh

Im confused by this

[warped heart]

locked tierlist, you need to spend some points, aka recruit comms, to proceed for the next tier to recruit better comms

[gaunt mantle]

bruh

holy whale event

[warped heart]

lord and behold stp is final tier, so expect to be expensive

[gaunt mantle]

Na bro id rather do gathering of commanders 😭

[warped heart]

this the reason why I highly advice and suggest to just save ghs for soc comms instead of swapping cause it'll be very very expensive for the commanders you want to get

[gaunt mantle]

So basically just run pyrrhus Sun kvk 2 aswell or?

[gaunt mantle]

isnt first swap cheap?

[warped heart]

yeah like 7.2k cheap

5555 - 2111

[gaunt mantle]

5555 to 5555 is 2 tickets right?

[warped heart]

yeah, but why

[gaunt mantle]

if Im swapping say for example expertised CC for uhh a expertised sun prime, its only 2 tickets right?

or is it more

[warped heart]

where the fck you get expertised stp

your swapping air

[gaunt mantle]

swapping is swapping level, stars and skills right?

Unless Im misunderstanding somethign

[fickle ore]

Why would u do that

🥀

[warped heart]

your swapping cause your other comm is low levelled?

[fickle ore]

[warped heart]

it's much more cheaper to just use stars than using up 690 ghs

most spenders I know have about 1k+ leg stars sitting

[gaunt mantle]

Im still confused ngl

its been a minute since ive done it

[warped heart]

optimal thing to do
if your doing one swap do 72 tickets or
5555 > 2111
if your doing 2 swaps do 36 tickets or
5555 > 5111

the point of the swap is the swap out your shitty kvk1 - kvk2 comms to good soc comms

[gaunt mantle]

let me check something

Yeah so in the swap on my old account. I think I swapped out a 5521 pyrrhus for 5521 QSH and then spent around 300 gh to expertise him

[warped heart]

this time it's different, they changed things 💀

[gaunt mantle]

Are we fucking fr

💀

Okay thats why I was confused

So whats actually changed

[warped heart]

get your comms from gathering of comms event > use ghs to 5111 or 2111 > swap shit to good soc comms you recruited

also 4 starring it too

[gaunt mantle]

where you recruit them right? and then use the swap event to swap the shit ones I recruited to good ones?

[warped heart]

both comm recruit event and swap event appeared at the same time and lasts the same duration
this is the website I mentioned #❓〡questions message, it can calculate how much points you have based on the amount you provide it
for swap, it's self explanatory

also both appear at the start of kvk3 offseason

or the start of kvk3

[gaunt mantle]

Okay I think for now, Ill come back ot it when its closer to the time

so that I dont forget

and are refreshed

So for now, just save gold heads until soc then?

and dont go for cj?

[warped heart]

depends how much of a whale you are, or how much resources your gonna invest on recruiting, test it out through the website I mentioned

[gaunt mantle]

Yeah ill come back to it when its closer to the time.

cos idk how much im gonna invest

and idk if my kvk 1 march will suffice for kvk 2

[fringe sable]

I mean stats, equipments formations and troop type matters too

[tawdry apex]

Hey guys.. Need some help

[fringe sable]

What ?

[tawdry apex]

One of our R4s rebelled and used up all of the main alliances credits. Who can I contact in order to get it refunded?

[gaunt mantle]

I dont think you can get them refunded

also

[fringe sable]

No one it's gone and is part of the game

[gaunt mantle]

Alliance credits are easy to get

[rancid holly]

VIP support.

[fringe sable]

[tawdry apex]

You think theres a chance?

[rancid holly]

A similar thing happened with us, basically an R4 of ours nuked our top 3 shells credits

[gaunt mantle]

same

[rancid holly]

top 2 and 3 were taken hostage, we paid a ransom for top 3

[gaunt mantle]

No lmao

you wont get them back

[rancid holly]

top 2 was taken back using deception

we contacted vip support

[gaunt mantle]

they are easy to get anyway

[rancid holly]

since our leadership had it

credits were back within 24 ish hours

[tawdry apex]

Oh thats lovely

Thanks!

[fringe sable]

Remeber not the customer support the WhatsApp VIP one

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[fringe sable]

Normal one is a bot anyways so won't help

[rancid holly]

Yeah

It's trash

[earnest vessel]

I am at around kingdom day 12 and around 1.1m power but am low on resources and spedups, I do all AP every day but don’t know what to do. Any tips?

[fringe sable]

for what ?

I mean what you want, resource tips AP tips etc.

[tawdry apex]

I see I see, thanks a ton bro

[warped heart]

no

try contacting martel for it

[rancid holly]

Well early game is pretty demanding and ruthless. You have to push to keep in top alliances, try your best to stay in top alliances and keep up with minimum power requirements. If you can't and get pushed to lower alliances, then, ideally, for the betterment of your account, migrate to another kingdom where you can be in top alliances to progress faster but later on when things calm down just simply hoard your resources and speed ups and save and push during events.

Pushing in the early game is pretty inefficient anyway due to not having access to holy sites and titles so just do the bare minimum and keep the rest for events and pre kvk.

Getting farm accounts for resources is highly recommended, otherwise you're just missing out.

so try to build and establish farms as soon as possible even if they are level 11 lol, something is better than nothing, and eventually get them to 17 - 22 - 24.

[swift bronze]

Are there any upcoming events before kvk1

Events that will be released with the new update

[whole bobcat]

Can people from different kingdoms be in the same Osiris league?

[jagged lily]

I’m in a new kingdom got Mina which is my main so should cao or sun tzube my second best?

[mighty viper]

Sun

[jagged lily]

May I ask why ?

[mighty viper]

Better skills and he’s cheaper to invest in

[warped heart]

mathematically better

[rose narwhal]

5 target aoe with no reduction, that alone will outdamage CC, making u get better reports, add to that 10% less damage taken because of his 3rd skill and the rage engine on his active skill + the skill damage boost from his 4th

[warped heart]

yeah whatever he said is true

[main knoll]

Lowkey mina baibars

dont forget about the sun for cavalry

Has good cav stat stick and nice skill dmg

Just doesnt boost mina dmg as much

sun can run on second march or so Or do sun on your wall

[rose narwhal]

20% skill damage is pretty decent

[main knoll]

Well and has no rage engine Baibars i mean

overall id prefer mina ysg tho

got that massive aoe with a skill dmg boost and a slight rage engine

[rose narwhal]

well yes naturally, everyone would prefer the BiS

[main knoll]

Hehe

I will run

Should be able to exp without maxing wheel

[rose narwhal]

go special connoctions 2 or continue spreading my tech?

[warped heart]

concoctions

[rose narwhal]

oki doki ty

[fossil axle]

Can i rally with scipioA mehmed?

Is it good

[mighty viper]

I wouldn’t

There’s a pined spreadsheet with a list of rally pairs

[fossil axle]

Where

Ahhh i see

[left dagger]

Anyone know if soc imp kingdoms let there big spenders get away with not completing their fort requirement?

[fringe sable]

what do you think lol

[left dagger]

Probably yes but I'd hope no

[fringe sable]

If the leadership is strict they won't let you off the hook

It's time to pay some fine

Or a apology

[cold bear]

Hey guys is using commanders like QSH/YSG better than using CM/YSG for garrison?

Even tho QSH isn’t a garrison commander does his buffs still outweigh CM’s garrison tree?

[inland dust]

What’s a good way to get gold Without the P2W and The Alliance mother load?

[abstract hill]

if my account is 415 days old is there any way to migrate back to kvk 4

[inland dust]

Also what are the best green rarity blueprints for Both archer and Inftanty boosts?

[cold bear]

Does anyone know???

[mighty viper]

You might be able to using term migration after your account has been inactive for 30+ days. But it’s unlikely

[mighty viper]

Check the pinned spreadsheet for garrison pairs

[cold bear]

Okay

By the way what commander is available on the daily bundles first. QSH or Achilles?

[fresh crescent]

wait mina is still usable past kvk 1_

had ppl saying he was only kvk 1 then never

[mighty viper]

He always has been usable, and some even use him for fort rallies in SOC

[fringe sable]

You can use him in kvk 3 too with arthur as a transition march

With museum buff

[mighty viper]

Although if someone is asking about garrison pairs they probably don’t have all that much use for a traditional march

[fringe sable]

It was another person who was asking for garrison pairs

[mighty viper]

Ah didn’t see that, it folded nicely into the previous conversation

[fringe sable]

Happens sometimes with me too saying LC instead of ZL and Phillip instead of william

When answering many people

[high linden]

what

[mighty viper]

That’s not a question for this server

[scenic bone]

Please help

[high linden]

no

its not rok related

therefore no

[scenic bone]

Okay

[mighty drift]

best tank march for kvk1 ?

[lethal jacinth]

cm ysg

wat tank

[fringe sable]

CM/Py

[lethal jacinth]

cm richard bahahhaha

[fringe sable]

No lol

[lethal jacinth]

best tank can’t argue

[mighty drift]

.. fr py

he is so ugly. ok i'll build ig

[fringe sable]

Do you that much spending to build it ?

[mighty drift]

huh

do i that much spending to build it?

[lethal jacinth]

are you capable to expertise it

[fringe sable]

You can't build it without money as it will be only 20% competed as a f2p

[lethal jacinth]

how much $$$$$$$$$ do u burn on this game

[mighty drift]

im not f2p

[fringe sable]

Then ?

[mighty drift]

then .. we have a good kvk

[lethal jacinth]

[fringe sable]

I'm asking how much spending lol

[mighty drift]

alot.

this game has never been cheap.

[lethal jacinth]

quantify it

[fringe sable]

And a tanky march is only for people who are willing to do things for thier kingdom more than themselves

To take negative reports

To protect the weak marches in ball

[mighty drift]

yeah, that's fine. i play siege for my kd usually. it doesn't bother me.

[lethal jacinth]

what

[fringe sable]

Kvk 1 siege ?

[mighty drift]

no no

this is much later.

[gaunt mantle]

what

[cold bear]

What is the best formation for Arthur/Achilles and QSH/YSG? So I know what to focus on in the state forums?

[fringe sable]

Idk if you want to do it you can just don't get stuck in between without expertise them both and have good golden gears, max tech, ch 25 and all stuff

[mighty drift]

i run gaja and cordoba in soc

[fringe sable]

You will need 690*2 golden heads

If you collect that much you can do it

[mighty drift]

sounds good! thanks for the help

[fringe sable]

You're welcome

[ornate mantle]

Where can i find the talent build for BQ?

[fringe sable]

For cavs, delta and for archers wedge

[ornate mantle]

And who is primary, BQ or LC

[fringe sable]

BQ/LC

[ornate mantle]

Thanjs

Thanks*

[fringe sable]

For where the discord link is there

[fresh crescent]

is it difficult to get saladin

kvk 2

[fringe sable]

He's a wheel commander just like YSG

[fresh crescent]

oh

[fresh crescent]

is mina + ysg still the best pairing kvk 2

for cav

if u arent going for saladin

[fringe sable]

Yeah

Saladin is only usable in kvk 2 anyways so not worth it

[fresh crescent]

damn so cav dont really got many options huh

[fringe sable]

Yeah they don't

In early game that is

[fresh crescent]

what should i am for kvk 3

like what should all my progress aim towards

whats the endgame march

[fringe sable]

You're a cav main so a arthur exp and QSH for archer march

You can then run Arthur/mina and QSH/YSG in kvk 3

[fresh crescent]

mina still works

jeez

[fringe sable]

Can swap mina later for Achilles

[fresh crescent]

was lied to

[fringe sable]

Yeah with the museum buff

[fresh crescent]

a lot of exaggerating in this game

[fringe sable]

Well when you learn the game right you will understand all this

How and what commanders works

[fresh crescent]

people was picturing mina past kvk 1 like pelagius

like it was some sin to use him past kvk 1

but thanks tho

[fringe sable]

Nah he's still usable even in soc, he's still the one of best for forts

[ornate mantle]

Thank you

[high flower]

hey i got some general questions about the game, can someone come in my dms and help

[fringe sable]

You can ask them here

[mighty viper]

No, ask your questions here

[rose narwhal]

Nobody's gonna slide into people's DMs to give advice and if they do is likely garbage and/or untrustworthy

Or a bot

[small pebble]

is 5-6 crystal chests a day good?

[rose narwhal]

It's insane lmao

[mighty viper]

So good as to be unbelievable

[small pebble]

well migration just happened so ig people are hyped and stuff

idk if it will keep up XD

also its way closer to 5 a day

than 6

[rose narwhal]

Still very good man

[high flower]

is this game still p2w

i saw something abt piloting getting banned

or somewhat lessened

just wondering what the environment is like in the game now

[mighty viper]

That update isn’t out yet, but generally speaking the game has gotten more P2W not less

[lethal jacinth]

As a 100m kraken what is the best way for me to find f2p’s and farms to zero

[high linden]

just don't

[fickle ore]

😭

[white tapir]

How's this armament set looking in k2

[sly crag]

If Guardian still alive but they will disappear at 23:00 UTC (1 hr before daily reset)? True or false?

[mighty viper]

False, there is no universal set time for guardian resets. Each guardian has a display timer that shows you how long until it despawns. It’s roughly 12hr total

[high flower]

so is it still worth playing

[sly crag]

Noted many thanks

[mighty viper]

That’s a personal opinion, not something that can be stated for certain

[high flower]

so what do u think

[mighty viper]

If you have the time and/or money to play, sure

[split heath]

Hi, how much of a dmg mitigation is the Azure thunderscape (kingdom select skin)? it is 2% dmg reduction

like compared to defense or health stats? (ik its hard to compare but roughly?)

[austere drum]

The buffs from the kingdom select skins are applied to your account regardless of which skin you have equipped

[split heath]

oh wowwie, thx

[mild gust]

I want around 1200 gh how long will that take

From 0

I’m vip 16

[high linden]

Well assuming u don't get any GH flow except vip

And vip 16 is 3 p day

You'd get this in 400 days

If you're factoring in AoO, 20gh events, seasonal events, it'd probably be closer to somewhere like 200-250 days

[mild gust]

I want to get around 1400 gh to invest in meta commanders

I have 300 current

[high linden]

300 GH right now?

[mild gust]

Yes

[high linden]

So maybe 125-200 days

[mild gust]

Will sun tzu prime be meta by then

[high linden]

Sure

[mild gust]

Or should I invest in qsh

Qsh or sun tzu prime

[high linden]

Qsh

Def qsh

[mild gust]

I’m inf main tho

[high linden]

Qsh is just goat

Qsh should be no. 1 prio

[mild gust]

Will he be meta in like 2 months

I can max him by then

[high linden]

Yes

[mild gust]

Ok

I’m still running ww/liu

I wanna run ww/sun tzu prime

[humble totem]

Has 'Holy Knight's Treasure' always been so limited? I switched to it because people say it's great. But not for Infantry, apparently! It only gives you the choice of Helm or Battle Skirt.

What's the point?

[rose narwhal]

its a rotation

next time the egg comes around it will have diff pieces of gear

unless im missunderstanding the question

[heavy bolt]

its the first egg for kvk 1

[turbid saffron]

should i work on legendry gathering commanders more than fighting commanders on my farm acc ?

[rose narwhal]

not rly legendaries

but farmers over fighters in ur farm yeh

[turbid saffron]

ill be focusing on gathering gold so I gotta go with legendary commanders

seondeok is the best right?

[stable flame]

why gold

[stable flame]

yeah

[mild gust]

Will moon melon market come to kd 4956

4056”

My restart account is in 4056 currently and I don’t know if melon market will come

[rose narwhal]

is ur kd over 21d old

[silk ether]

How many speeds up does city of hope give if maxxed for 185 or wtv

[mild gust]

It’s 47 days old

[rose narwhal]

should appear

[silk ether]

tyty

[fresh crescent]

there’s an event out rn that lets u purchase 100$ one without having to buy the cheaper ones first

do u think it’s worth it?

[clear moss]

If anyone knows a lot about PC specs please dm me I have a couple questions

[rose narwhal]

i have heard its not but can u calculate all it gives anyway?

i meannnn man tbh its most likely not thats js like 1 week and a half of speedups for 100$

[fresh crescent]

true

[rose narwhal]

i believe its the vip 16 bundle that gives 50 universals for the same price lol

[mild gust]

Is 300K season coins possible in one kvk

[rose narwhal]

yes

[mild gust]

Bro how I’m struggling with crystals

I came back to the game

[rose narwhal]

did u do popups and crystal lucerne and crystal mine?

[mild gust]

Not yet

[rose narwhal]

did u do karuak and max bastions favour tech and karuak crystal?

[mild gust]

I’m gonna unlock crystal lucerne crystal mine soon

[rose narwhal]

there's your answer, mine at the very least will make it a lot harder to get crystals

[mild gust]

I did do Karuak max bastions

My restart account is at 4.1 million and kvk is in 30 days

Can the account still be good in kvk 1

[rose narwhal]

not bad, depends on how much power it has when it enters kvk tho

[mild gust]

I’m about to push 7 million I think is 15 million good before any fighting

That’s how much I can get it to

[rose narwhal]

yep that'll do

[mild gust]

The main issue is rss

I have to work as a spy to earn extra rss that’s how broke I am

[rose narwhal]

remind me to never hire u if i ever need 1

[mild gust]

Bro I’m in kd 4056

I migrated from 4051 to 4057 to 4056

And what happened to socks

I haven’t seen him in forever

[rose narwhal]

quit the game3

[mild gust]

Bro coulda gave me his account

[cinder tree]

how many speed up do we use in a kvk full t5 4 marches ?

[rose narwhal]

depenmds on your trades and tech

[junior dust]

if i’m build inf and i have kauruaks humility pants should i go for the eternal helmet or just go pants still and get the kvk helm im going into kvk 1?

[rose narwhal]

u can keep karuak and get eternal empire helmety and do 4 EE

[junior dust]

preciate

[lethal jacinth]

hope cloak

[queen inlet]

Way does bundle reload do in customer support section?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[rose narwhal]

Trigger a popup u missed

[queen inlet]

Got it thanks

[fresh crescent]

is this worth competing over?>

20 gh

[warped heart]

Jesus christ 1 mil 💀

[lethal jacinth]

Nah

Man used up 2.5 years for ts

[fresh crescent]

damn

[main knoll]

Its building power
Not minutes used
so if you can power up like idk 3-4M why not

Od wait for last few hours and look at rankings again before you decide to push tho

[fresh crescent]

I can do ch 25 rn

but idk

1.4m

[main knoll]

hm

wait for now

[thorny falcon]

how many vip pts are needed from 18 to 19?

2 mill right?

[white lily]

1m i thinkj

[austere drum]

No its 2

[thorny falcon]

thanks got it

[thorny falcon]

bruh vip18 pack is inefficicent spending btw

[white lily]

I bought it when kvk2 started

[austere drum]

He's nearly vip 19 less than a year into the game, i dont think he's concerned about inefficiencies

[white lily]

I needed the weapon

[thorny falcon]

im at 4.94 mill, will dump another 60 k gems, then that final 1 mill ffs

[fresh crescent]

if i migrate now

WIll i lose divine bundle

this thing

or is that nota thing

[austere drum]

Lucerne? Yes

[fresh crescent]

damn bru

fuc

[austere drum]

It resets and you will get access to the next season your new kd has

[fresh crescent]

bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[austere drum]

By resets i mean you lose access

[fresh crescent]

4060 so buns

leader is a noob

[thorny falcon]

zero him and jump

[austere drum]

in other news water is wet

[fresh crescent]

BRO

no joke

he got zeroed like an hour ago

😭

then they jumped

[thorny falcon]

lmfao , wtf is that kd hahaaha

[fresh crescent]

one with an idiot in charge

bro i should like deadass zero him too

round 2

they all went back to sleep

[austere drum]

You can criticise actions but do not resort to personal attacks

[fresh crescent]

he zeroed someone for wanting to migrate away peacefully

its not wrong to zero him back

[austere drum]

By personal attacks i meant insults

[fresh crescent]

oh

[austere drum]

Idc what you do in game lol

[fresh crescent]

an idiot isnt really an insult

at least to me

theres plenty of idiots in rok

[tight oasis]

Hello guys, is there a way to do a multiple choices Alliance poll? I only have accept or decline vote here. Need to do Alliance vote for the event time

[white lily]

no

use discord

[austere drum]

If you absolutely need to do it in game send multiple alliance ready checks for different slots

[tight oasis]

Okay thanks

I remember only AOO can do time vote right?

[fresh crescent]

will i lose this bundle too

[white lily]

no

[fresh crescent]

100% sure

[white lily]

yes

[fresh crescent]

worth it?

[white lily]

ehh

what kvk

[fresh crescent]

1

[white lily]

show ur current stuff

[fresh crescent]

commander gear

its day 40 of kd

[white lily]

do u have egg event rn?

[fresh crescent]

nope

[white lily]

ig yeah then

if you already spent the 85

[fresh crescent]

btw

[white lily]

otherwise i would buy vip bundles for the books

[fresh crescent]

egg event

arent we supposed to spend a little

like 10 spins

[white lily]

how old is ur acc

[fresh crescent]

like 40 smth

it migrated to 4060

[white lily]

i'd say

egg event is good always

but esmereldas prayer soon

[fresh crescent]

but how many gems do we spend?

[white lily]

I always do 50

[fresh crescent]

alr

[white lily]

save gems for esmereldas prayer

[fresh crescent]

when does it come

[white lily]

next week

its a thing which usually comes with updates

[thorny falcon]

you seem to be a low-mid spender

your approach is wrong , buy dailies not these bundles

if you have any spare money always - 1200 gems and 750 vip + 500 ap + 14 hr speeds, this 500 ap again converts to speeds and gems during marauders

[wintry tinsel]

Hey guys i have a question
I want to convert my legendary inscription and I would like to know wich one should I convert first (wich one is the most important) in wedge2

[warped heart]

emblem >scroll>for flag, depends on your playstyle - if you tank or suck at combat, no and if your good at combat, yes

[thorny falcon]

99 usd = 33 dailies = 99 gh of a commander of your choice , 39600 gems + 24750 vip , 16500 ap and 33 gold keys which again give speeds etc

[wintry tinsel]

Okk thank you mate

[fresh crescent]

Wait I just realized that

I’m slow

Id only do it for the gems tho rn

[thorny falcon]

whatever feels best for you but speeds become a bottleneck quickly if you arent careful lol

[turbid saffron]

to make gears for commanders ?

[fresh crescent]

wym

[thorny falcon]

speeds needed to heal

and train

[fresh crescent]

oh ye

[thorny falcon]

and upgrade buldings

[fresh crescent]

is barb chaining the best way to gain these

[ripe frost]

So egg event came by but It doesn't have helm, only chest boots and gloves , is it worth going for it at all?

[white lily]

phyruss?

[ripe frost]

Yeah

Should I wait for hammer event?

[white lily]

show mats and bp please

[ripe frost]

Mb

8/30 shards for helm

[silent current]

just 10 spin it

[silent current]

i personally wouldnt go for sacred grips and shios tbh

[ripe frost]

I know

I want the helm but egg dont give it 😒

[silent current]

but anyway for egg you want to always 10 spin it

[ripe frost]

Yup

[silent current]

at the least tbh

[silent current]

yeah its on cycle

[ripe frost]

So next egg will have it?

[fresh crescent]

50
Or 10 @silent current

[white lily]

or 100

if u really really need

[fringe sable]

10 45 70 100

[stable flame]

u would get plenty just from melon market

[fringe sable]

Mostly you should do 70 or 100

[stable flame]

ever since the latest melon market i sitll havent used all my gold

[silent current]

just do 10 or 100

[stable flame]

and since ur early game ion think u need gold

[turbid saffron]

but still i gotta work on em cuz they are rhe fastest 4 gold

[silent current]

you should always do 10

but u should save gems to do a 100 spin every now and then

or even just like 70 ig

[fringe sable]

Yeah 10, 70 and 100 are the ones you should do

10 always

[burnt hill]

What are the 2 siege accessories?

[fringe sable]

Horn and ring same as others

[burnt hill]

Ty

[weary robin]

length wise RoK?

[stable flame]

Bearable

Auto screen rotate should work

[waxen panther]

😭

Is this better than boiling blood?

[fluid remnant]

yes

[mellow stump]

Should I invest all my purple heads into sun tzu pre kvk1?

[fluid remnant]

How much power account needs to have to disappear from map after 30 days instead of 3 days?

[fringe sable]

It isn't power dependent it's city hall dependent

[sacred timber]

#🎉〡event․news

[fringe sable]

Yeah you can

But remember that if you have choosen china as your first civ

[fluid remnant]

you know which CH level it needs to be?

[fringe sable]

You will get lot of heads of sun

[fringe sable]

23

After that it's 30 days

For 24 and 25 as well

[mellow stump]

so i should just save them for other commanders

[fringe sable]

Don't save them you get plenty of purple heads

Use them on sun

Then baibars (if doing cavs)

Gathering commanders (first of all Matilda)

Then rest

[fluid remnant]

you know how it works for lower levels? or it’s always 3 or 30

[mellow stump]

matilda first? dont people say to go from green to blue then purple for gatherers?

[fringe sable]

Purple heads can be used only on purple commanders

So how will green and blue enter there lol

[mellow stump]

yea i know but im just asking, is it a good idea to start with upgrading purple gatherers

[fringe sable]

No do blue and greens

First

Put your heads in sun for now

Will be fine as there will be a event to exchange those heads later so won't be issue even if you will have lots of sun heads

[mellow stump]

alright, thanks for the help!

[fringe sable]

To be safe login after 30 days

As this info can be different as game changes without much info sometimes

[thorny falcon]

how many gems do i need for esmeralda prayer to buy the store ?

[warped heart]

wat

[thorny falcon]

the currency

[proven spruce]

Wondering what my best options are for pairing commanders? Complete noob 😅

[thorny falcon]

how many gems needed to buy out the store

esmeralda coins

[warped heart]

the wheel or the usual event?

[thorny falcon]

wheel

i think its coming on 7th of may

[warped heart]

about 31.5k gems

[warped heart]

1 march
sun aeth
if your Mina is 5511 then
Mina suntzu

[soft pier]

What are the ways to get a passport?

[warped heart]

bundle or alliance shop

[pseudo ore]

What time do bundles reset? UTC

[warped heart]

dailies reset at 0:00 UTC

[pseudo ore]

Ty

[molten thicket]

as a f2p running 4 marches (2 infantry 2 archer) should you forge drums?

[weary robin]

why you running 4march as f2p? if you can sustain that, it's impressive

[thorny falcon]

2 drums

[warped heart]

3 minimum needed

[thorny falcon]

i think its 3 for 5 marches iirc

but drums is cheap and best for f2p

[somber skiff]

Do at least 3 drums

[static granite]

How can I get more bps

[thorny falcon]

whale up more, reach kracken tier

[warped heart]

Just needed 3, but you can slowly craft some

[thorny falcon]

are you a rally lead? im getting confused cuz everyone has rally lead and wwhen i ask ppl say they have it cuz they rally barb forts

[thorny falcon]

can i put drums on qsh instead of pendant?

drums-ring?

or drums-pendant?

[warped heart]

if you already crafted pendents, no
if not yes

[white tapir]

5511 mina? Surely baibars better if Mina isn't expertise

[sinful thistle]

Can you tell me when the next Lucerne Scrolls will be available?

The Kingdom is currently 23 days old

[thorny falcon]

its a monthly event tbf

[fringe sable]

It's a monthly thing and next comes there just after few days when one ends

It depends on kingdom

[warped heart]

I can't math that but if your even more broke, you can use baibars sun for Cavs

[main skiff]

Hey im Brand new and looking to start. Anyone have any advice which kingdom might have people willing to help? Im very active.

[fringe sable]

There isn't any specific kingdom just make a account in the lastest kingdom there is

Just read the guides in pins

[drifting inlet]

Question, quite a while ago I quit playing and left a decent account after kvk 1. Now is it possible for me to tp to a fresh kingdom after kvk 1 and start playing again like nothing happened?

[fringe sable]

All tips are there

[main skiff]

Ok thanks! I was watching some videos about jumping and stuff

[fringe sable]

Those things don't exist anymore so ....

[main skiff]

Ah ok cool 🙂

Appreciate the help!

[fringe sable]

Open the account and check what kingdom the return offers

[drifting inlet]

Oh so the game will offer me a free teleport to a kingdom?

[fringe sable]

Yeah the returning players gets it check it

[drifting inlet]

Okey thats a cool new feature. I'm assuming it will give a choice of the newest kingdoms out of kvk 1?

[keen island]

Our kingdom has no empire and has an immigrant with 180M power to come.

Does it consume special migration points?

[drifting inlet]

Because if so it might be beneficial to time it with a good kingdom coming out of kvk 1

[fringe sable]

Not always it sometimes gives kingdoms in kvk too. Idk what and how they offer kingdoms you will have to check it yourself

[drifting inlet]

Alrighty

Thanks!

[fringe sable]

No empire means ? No king ?

[keen island]

kvk2

If the kingdom becomes imperial, it cannot modify the immigration status.

[keen island]

That's why the question

[fringe sable]

Then the king can set the power limit to no cap if it's not a imperium and it's a same season migration with the account not being more than 60 days older than the kingdom

If it's a cross season the max power cap is 85M

If anything isn't within the requirements then it will cost immigration points for special migration

[short atlas]

Anyone from india here? Can anybody tell me how can i spend here from india?

[fringe sable]

You play in japnese version you can do it

[short atlas]

Yes but everyone here plays on international server

I still haven't restarted, i am waiting for NEET to pass

🥲

[fringe sable]

Good luck for your results 🤞

[fringe sable]

You will have to buy flux from the website

And don't use cards cuz maybe they don't work

[short atlas]

I am unable to buy on store.rok

[fringe sable]

Now after re-release maybe they will but idk

[short atlas]

Cards not working. how?

[fringe sable]

China

Use G-pay

[short atlas]

Yes cards are not working

[short atlas]

Usually i use gpay for daily things but this is asking me to add a card

[fringe sable]

You will only be able to buy with a payment app

[short atlas]

And the debit card i have works all well but when i try to add it it says, card not available

[fringe sable]

Try others maybe if gpay doens't work

[short atlas]

How do you buy?

[fringe sable]

Payment apps

[short atlas]

Which one?

[fringe sable]

G-pay

[short atlas]

Why my gpay not working 😪😪

[fringe sable]

Idk

[short atlas]

Are you on whatsapp?

[fringe sable]

I'm but no 🙂‍↔️

[short atlas]

😒

Help me

[fringe sable]

Sometimes try things by yourself too I can give advices regarding rok not payment apps cuz I'm not a hacker who can make it work lol

Maybe add debit card in G-pay directly

Not when rok asks you to

If not works ask G-Pay support

[short atlas]

Can you check your private msg?

[thorny falcon]

Use credit card

[short atlas]

I have a debit card

[thorny falcon]

Buy flux from Lilith store

[short atlas]

But they are not accepting my debit card on rok store

[fast niche]

hi guys, the z7 will open in a week. i currently have +7m crystals. how should i upgrade my technology? i play 2 archer, 2 cav, 1 inf. gg/achilles joan/arthur qsh/ysg zhuge/hermann sun/lc

[thorny falcon]

quit game bro lol kjk

[fringe sable]

Check the crystal guide in TKC discord

[fast niche]

where? can u send me link

[fringe sable]

You're already there that's why I told you

Lol

[lucid tiger]

On how many KD days does the first egg event start

[fast niche]

which channel

[fringe sable]

Kvk guides

And search crystal tech guides

[fringe sable]

After 21 days I guess

It's egg/hammer

[lucid tiger]

We are at 29 days and nethier started

[fringe sable]

So maybe it's more than that

It should be there next time

[lucid tiger]

and how many gems do I need to max it?

[fast niche]

kvk info?

[fringe sable]

Yup

[fringe sable]

46.8k 100 spins

[inland dust]

How often does da Commander swap event happen?

[rose narwhal]

Kvk 3 off season start and that's that

It never comes back again

Although in the LA meetup the devs talked about maybe making the commander reset yearly nothing's set in stone

[warped heart]

never, it's a one time event

[inland dust]

Oh Bruh

[short atlas]

No i will just play on japanese server... i am not getting any problems on payment there

[serene tinsel]

i was in bilget’s stream today and i asked if a f2p/low spender should go for 5 sets/marches and then accecoris iconic V boots etc or 3 he said 3 and two troop types but then i when is asked about crystal tech i think he didn’t rlly understand my wording so do max/ put as much as i can in the stats of the troop type i run two marches of and leave the other or split with like idk 2:1 ratio of crystals spent on the troop type i run two of to the other one i only run one of?

[high flower]

is this game still p2w or is f2p possible without spending too many hours

[warped heart]

depends, if you run 2 troop types then just invest only those 2 troop types

[warped heart]

f2p is not possible without spending too many hours

[rose narwhal]

I'd split, put some health on the other troop type when you get there or some, maybe some march speed if it's archers (which imo should be)

[high flower]

damn so if i’m in college i shouldn’t play the hame

[warped heart]

yes

[high flower]

do people buy accounts or is that not allowed

[warped heart]

in wontrade

[high flower]

wym

[warped heart]

in wontrade, you can buy accounts there

the only place lilith allowed so

[high flower]

would it be worth to buy an account and f2p it?

[serene tinsel]

Alr thx its inf the one march i feel like archers are in a great position rn for a two marches so i just put some health into inf when i get there

But u guys do agree with the whole three marches two troop type thing for f2p/low spender

[warped heart]

idk, never tried it

[mental walrus]

?

[warped heart]

no, I like mine 3 troop type to spread out my options

[serene tinsel]

What

[serene tinsel]

Bilget said that two troop types is best for f2p/low spender because of crystal tech

He tried to do his crystal tech as a f2p/low spender before so he prob has a decent idea

[mental walrus]

Nah you want three so that you get at least the three best marches in the game

[warped heart]

I know, but the problem is the fact that your gonna use 4th or 5th best marches , thus lowering the effectiveness your gonna have, I know that crystal tech is key but you just need some troop capacity and concoctions and your ready to go

[fringe sable]

That's on basis of crystal tech and that's right ut better to have two marches so that you can focus on two troop types. But the 3 meta marches will perform better than 2 troop types 3 marches as the fact that the second marches have significantly low output that the first ones

But there can be a exception if you going to do 2 inf and 1 archer

As inf has more good commanders that can be on field

[serene tinsel]

Idk why he said then xd

[fringe sable]

If you have one cav just go for 3 meta troop types marches

[serene tinsel]

I have one arch and on inf

[mental walrus]

Get one cav

[fringe sable]

And those are QSH/ZL or YSG and STP/LC or BQ I'm guessing

[warped heart]

he's fighting in field, he probably can't think deep into it

[serene tinsel]

No i am just in k3 so it’s qsh/ysg and stp/bq

[fringe sable]

Then go for cav march

[serene tinsel]

Yeah mabye, i asked him like do i run one cav/arch/inf he said nah go for only two troop types

[fringe sable]

If you have phillip things can be a bit flexible but if you don't go for 3

[mental walrus]

Like we said before you want at least one of each troop type so that you get the best three marches in the game. It doesn’t matter if you have to work tech on them or not

Almost all of the time the best of each troop type will be better than two of one troop type

[serene tinsel]

As of rn qsh/ysg new archer march and stp/bq would be the best three marches prob although this trend prob wont continue qsh was sort of a generation ahead/outlier

[mental walrus]

No it won’t

New archer doesn’t have aoe

[fringe sable]

New archer don't

[serene tinsel]

Ah

Alr thx guys

[mental walrus]

New archer would be interesting for high spenders, wouldn’t say so for lower spenders

Debuffs and all that look interesting

Won’t outperform Arthur Achilles though

[serene tinsel]

So for cav arthur achillies yeah?

[mental walrus]

I would yes

[fringe sable]

I can only think of one way for 2 troop types better ,i.e., STP/BQ, LC/Phillip and QSH/YSG

Otherwise cavs

If you already have phillip

[serene tinsel]

Prob just for cavs

[fringe sable]

Don't invest

[serene tinsel]

And then the tech would be split evenly i would assume

[warped heart]

Cavs are having a rough time, need an overpowered Chinese commander to save it

[serene tinsel]

Next cavs are a while away or no

[fringe sable]

Year end

[serene tinsel]

Yeah that’s farr

[fringe sable]

idk if it's better to have one troop tech or mixed

The only advice I can give is

That If you haven't spent in the game until now

It's the time to do it

Just spend $20 and you will have a good crystal tech

[serene tinsel]

Yeah

[fringe sable]

That's not much

[wicked shale]

if you accidentally gem a building, will customer support help refund it?

[fringe sable]

Yeah they will

File a report

Also turn on the gem spending reminder lol

[fresh crescent]

what does this switch thing do

[warped heart]

can switch what specific special troop type + what buff you want to use simultaneously

[wet imp]

does this mean no cj….

[fresh crescent]

wait what

i thought the civ u picked is what buffs u get

no change

[warped heart]

yeah, you pick a civ for buff then pick what special troop you want to use or have
example use case is France for hospital buff and German for troop type cavs

nah wait
you pick a civ for special troop type then switch what civ buff you wanna use

[fresh crescent]

isnt this the best

for minamoto

minas pure skill dmg no?

[warped heart]

check pins for best combination

[fast niche]

im getting a 100% +2.5% buff, which one should i choosei attack or defense?

[cold bear]

Is pyrusss/Alex (both expertised) still good for KvK3 or no?

[fringe sable]

You're seeing a old photo when CY didn't even existed

[fringe sable]

Kvk 3 nah not at all

I haven't even seen py/Alex march in kvk 2 ?

[fringe sable]

100% + 2.5 % ?

[cunning oar]

i think he mean the pity of 2,5% min stts

[fringe sable]

Ahh this one ok

Now I don't know which one defense and which one health in those stats

That's not my language

[cunning oar]

health is the 2.8% locked i believe

[wet imp]

i mean i took the photo today which is why im lost

[fringe sable]

Maybe a glitch on your side cuz there's no chance when i checked mine

Or can be below or above in the list

There's CY also not there while he exists

[wet imp]

alright sick. would suck to have maxed out cj for him to be gone 🤣

[fringe sable]

Refund

[wet imp]

cj better cook. sadly my luck sucked so no iconic 5 boots

[wicked shale]

i have it on but for some reason, the mouse bugs out and clicks something in random lol. hopefully i get it back coz its abit annoying

[fringe sable]

You will if you put in a request

[fringe sable]

Who does iconic 5 in kvk 2 ? Are you a kraken or something who has already made 3-4 sets

Or a rally garrison

[wet imp]

nah there is like 5 or more guys ahead of me

for rally and garrison

[fringe sable]

Then you absolutely shouldn't do iconic this early

First make all of your sets (3-4)

Then do their accessories

Then it's time to do iconic and crit

[wet imp]

thought iconic 5 boots was the way. oops. well i have almost 3 sets. one of each. just cavs needs work but… ew cavs

it’s kvk 2 so i got time for accessories right?

[fringe sable]

And it's iconic 4 first who does iconic 5 lol iconic 5 is the last thing you ever do

Use this for the order

[little jay]

I play KVK as f2p and getting a conquest coin seems very hard. I can probably only get the 1M acclaim coin from individual. Is that correct or is there another easy task.

[fringe sable]

And make more sets first before iconic and stuff

If you have 3 sets make one more

And then in kvk 3 do accessories

[fringe sable]

Join rallies and garrisons and get yourself on field more

[wet imp]

oh yeah that’s what i meant. i swear im not always dumb

[wicked shale]

i did, waiting for reply hehe

[lethal jacinth]

Is it best to place a common inscription on the top right bottom left or bottom right armament given they are all decent

[eternal axle]

What is the best strategy for golden kingdom? Should I attak elite guardians or avoid?

[fresh crescent]

which ones

[rose narwhal]

Tbh instead of the second speedups u could do crystal keys and see if you get any more value from it than 2 days and a half worth of speeds

For the first one it's 4 days so tbh up to you whether you prefer 4 days or 4 GHs or 4 legendary mats

[fresh crescent]

this is the hardest one

[rose narwhal]

Id say the speedups are the least value of the 3

In this case, I wouldn't consider the stars either

[fresh crescent]

u can get 4 gh in 4 days