❓〡questions

[mental walrus]

Ok

[digital socket]

?

oh

[cunning oar]

Tome's responsibility

[warped heart]

*tome's suffering

[digital socket]

@mighty viper is this ok?

like does it work

[lucid bluff]

Whats the best troop type for lowspender to midspenders going into kvk1

[cunning oar]

The price to pay for being pink.

[mighty viper]

Do whatever you want lol

[mighty viper]

Infantry

[lucid bluff]

why inf?

[digital socket]

just give advice or criticism

[mighty viper]

I’ve already said all I want to say

[mighty viper]

Sun/Aeth is the best pair for F2P and low spenders

[digital socket]

give criticism on my plan

[mighty viper]

You have no clue what you’re doing and are trying to hold onto an account that isn’t even worth holding onto

[digital socket]

then give me some insight on what i'm supposed to do

[digital socket]

are you um

by any chance

able to read?

[mighty viper]

Restart and abandon your old account

[digital socket]

"my plan is:
Make a new account"

r we blind

[mighty viper]

Restart and retire your old account. best plan

[digital socket]

making a new account is just restarting

the only account that would take much effort is the new one

since it would be participating in preKvK and KvK1

the old account isn't the one that takes energy to run

[mighty viper]

It would be participating in all KVKs going forward

[mighty viper]

Then run it, but it shouldn’t be a primary focus

[digital socket]

yeah ik

so circling back

what's the problem with my plan?

[warped heart]

@sage fable

[digital socket]

like i'm genuinely curious, and i'm not suggesting that there isn't one

if you still know one

tell me

[mighty viper]

Your old account really isn’t worth saving tbh that’s the problem. You are too attached to it

[digital socket]

well tbh i am capable of running 2 accs at once

i have a laptop and a phone

[sage fable]

[digital socket]

like literally AT ONCE

[digital socket]

how were u able to see the messages if you were blind?

if your power is blindness, then what are you without it/

[sage fable]

instincts fr

[digital socket]

who here is in 3736 or is in 373X or 37XX

[sharp marsh]

Anyone got a good kd for restart recommendation unrelated to this guy above

[mighty viper]

See #1250017171145359381

[warped heart]

Yeah we do because

1. We have extensive years of experience in the game and @mighty viper is literally the best early game advice provider you currently have
2. We already gave you an answer toyour question earlier, the rest is up to your judgment and decision whether to proceed with it and move on
3. Play the game first before "planning things out" most plans don't go well
4. If you want general game information just watch YouTube guides like "rok firefly" "rok 12inchpvpness" or anyone really (not Omni), if not then ask here

[sharp marsh]

Yeah I’ve looked there but there’s a bunch and I’m new to this shit 🤣

[digital socket]

why not omni

[lucid bluff]

What other marches can you run for inf in the early game

[sharp marsh]

Cm pyhrus

[mighty viper]

There’s not really much for low spenders

[mental walrus]

A lot of options but that’s one for free to play

More for spenders

[mighty viper]

That’s not really something a F2P or low spender should do

[lucid bluff]

What abt cavs in the early game for kvk 1

[sharp marsh]

The new one asking just mentioned early game marches

[mighty viper]

Bai/Sun, Mina/Sun if Mina is 5511 or higher

[sharp marsh]

What’s considered “low spending” in game perspective

[mighty viper]

Less than $500 dollars a month

[sharp marsh]

Oh

I’m big ballin

[mental walrus]

I interpret it as less than 200

With 500 a month you can buy so much stuff

That’s like 4 gc

[sharp marsh]

I spend around 150-200 a week

[mental walrus]

So ur med to high spender

[digital socket]

he doesn't talk about f2ps alot?

[sharp marsh]

🤌🤌😎

[mighty viper]

Huh?

[sharp marsh]

I was thinking I was on the low end of spenders we have a few people in current kd that drop gc seemingly everyday it’s gross I wish I had money like that for this game

[digital socket]

you replayed to my message of "why can't i watch omni for advice" after someone else said don't watch omni for advice

[mental walrus]

Because including him there’s no good guide for early game

[mighty viper]

Was trying to reply to someone else, but yes there’s not much in the way of good guides or good guides for low spenders

[lucid bluff]

So basically i should run inf but csn i know some commander pairs for it aside from sun tzu n aeth

[digital socket]

i meant guide for getting zeroed

i mean i had to have been zeroed for being deadweight, right?

[mental walrus]

?

[rose narwhal]

Not really if you're not CH 25

[digital socket]

i'm ch 22 or 23 when i got banned

[rose narwhal]

Then you'll be fine

[digital socket]

why do they zero ch 25s but not lower chs?

[mighty viper]

Because only Ch25 accounts count for matchmaking

[warped heart]

Ask your kingdom's veteran about it

[digital socket]

ohhh ok, thank you

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[digital socket]

how would zeroing help that though

[mighty viper]

Lowers power, incentivizes those getting zeroed to leave the kingdom

[digital socket]

i see

wait

what if a kingdom forced natural selection in a kingdom, sort of like the culling games?

like, they force everyone into their own zones

and then there are no laws in them

[mighty viper]

No kingdom will do this

[digital socket]

yes i know

it's unrealistic

but my question is theoretically what could happen?

[rose narwhal]

I think that's called civil war

[mighty viper]

It’s not worth discussing impossible what ifs

[digital socket]

no no

it's controlled chaos

like

everyone is separated into a different z1 sector

[warped heart]

Yeah that's civil war

[digital socket]

no like

everyone's separated into a different z1 sector

and then by a certain deadline

they'll zero anyone who isn't top 25 power in each of their sectors or something like that

so what people will do is try zeroing other people

so their own rankings go up

[warped heart]

That's civil war

[rose narwhal]

Question is who the fuck would control this and HOW

That's what you don't understand

U just can't

[digital socket]

the king

the capitol gng

all the leadership

r5s r4s

[rose narwhal]

Why would they do that

And tbh if kings lose control that's it

[digital socket]

to weed out the weak?

[rose narwhal]

Kings aren't gods they can lose control any time

[rose narwhal]

... They will just 0 them themselves?

[digital socket]

no?

[digital socket]

^

[rose narwhal]

... What?

[digital socket]

^

those who don't survive

[rose narwhal]

U also need to realize one thing

[digital socket]

are those who were weak

[rose narwhal]

That's not how it fucking works either 😭

[digital socket]

how come

[warped heart]

Yeah that's why you do this

That's called migrating btw

[digital socket]

that just makes the process faster

[warped heart]

Yeah

So?

[rose narwhal]

I have a city garrison and if I catch my hospital I can't be zeroed, but somebody with a more field focused account and no city garrisons, which could bring more value, would be at disadvantage

[digital socket]

and that's a good thing

[digital socket]

wdym

[rose narwhal]

And most kingdoms have one alliance by the time they reach SOC anyway

[warped heart]

Ok cool

[digital socket]

so your point makes no sense

ok

[digital socket]

how come?

[rose narwhal]

That I have an advantage over someone who could he more valuable field fighting just because I invested in a city garrison at one point

[warped heart]

I mean one word
Migrating

Self explanatory

[digital socket]

someone without a city garrison is already pretty weak

[rose narwhal]

Not really

[digital socket]

if you have no specialized garrison

to protect yourself

[rose narwhal]

Thats not how the game works bro

[digital socket]

then even if you had a really strong field

you can get zeroed

[rose narwhal]

Yes

[digital socket]

if your marches r away

[rose narwhal]

That's why those people don't random tp in kvk

And stay in territory

[rose narwhal]

In kvk there's territory protection which means as long as you're in your alliance territory u cannot be zeroed, u can't put a more valuable field account in the line of getting zeroed like that, that's just dumb ash and hurts the kingdom a lot

Your whole idea is unrealistic and extremely flawed but if by Gods grace it just so happened to be a feasible scenario ONCE you need to realize why it doesn't work like that

[digital socket]

what happens in a civil war then?

[rose narwhal]

People get ass fucked

That's why civil wars aren't good

[digital socket]

exactly

which is why you need a garrison

[rose narwhal]

Although protection is now a HK thing

[rose narwhal]

You don't need a garrison if you're not on a kingdom w a civil war

Besides

A garrison will NOT save you if you're offline

[digital socket]

you're preventing future problems by making sure your kingdom members are mostly in possession of a brain

[rose narwhal]

A garrison only helps if you're online and u can catch the hospital and u can be fucked to

[rose narwhal]

Do you know how expensive it is to get a garrison tho?

[digital socket]

even if u can't catch the hospital

[digital socket]

just max out some garrison commanders gng

[thorn charm]

The best garrison is called "Peace shield"

[rose narwhal]

That's 1.2K gold heads which you won't get back for field commanders

[thorn charm]

100% protection rate

[rose narwhal]

And most accounts are too busy fielding to worry about a garrison

[mighty viper]

I already told him that hours ago

[warped heart]

This is why city keeper is my best wall garrison

[thorn charm]

Hahaha seems I am stealing your line

[digital socket]

even an epic garrison or a gold key garrison is good bro

like martel

he's good for garrison

he's also gold key

you don't need KvK commanders to have a good garrison gng

[rose narwhal]

Martel is expensive

[mighty viper]

In KVK1, sure

[rose narwhal]

And not useful without 4th skill

Not as useful

[digital socket]

i've seen him perform in kvk 2

[cunning oar]

maybe work vs farms

[digital socket]

attacking him without a solid rally is suicide

[rose narwhal]

Past KvK 2 that's GG

[warped heart]

So your telling me the city keeper himself is not good?

[rose narwhal]

That's why u mostly get rallied and not swarmed anyways

People only swarm if it's a low city with no garrison

Unless they're Mr hope

Nobody swarms a 100M city with Hera YSS or whatevs on the wall

[digital socket]

yeah

if you have to rally to defeat every city

with a good garrison

instead of swarming

i think that proves my point

[rose narwhal]

How 💀

[digital socket]

that weeding out those with weak garrisons and weak field

is useful

think about it

rally speed matters

[rose narwhal]

Mate

You didn't say weak field

Field value was my point

U just said those without garrison are inherently weak

As if sun tzu Richard 5111 was gonna save you from anything

[digital socket]

constantine

[rose narwhal]

Barely any difference still no

[digital socket]

gng

i think if ur garrison has 1m troops or so

and their rally has 1m

or maybe u have 2m and they have 2m

the likely outcome

is they take tons of losses

[short oasis]

@digital socket being right isnt always the answer

[digital socket]

?

[rose narwhal]

Well yeah if the rally is fucking garbage 😭

[digital socket]

gng even if the rally is strong

that doesn't mean they won't lose a ton of soldiers

[short oasis]

no need for a city garrison

[digital socket]

gng

[short oasis]

if u got yourself in the position to get zeroed then you're weak

[short oasis]

[digital socket]

we're talkin about civil wars

[rose narwhal]

Right bro but there's something called fillers if u want to get into that then

[short oasis]

sounds like its time to migrate

because kds are pretty stable now

[rose narwhal]

I can fill my rally with my own farms and u will take deaths on your city if your hospital overflows while no main accounts from my side will have a dent

[livid plover]

fillers peak

[short oasis]

No need, I just swarm

[young kestrel]

Do u even have enough troops to do that?

[short oasis]

This guys main is 12m power

I've swarmed 40m easily

[digital socket]

crazy

well uh

personally martel primary garrison is rlly good imo

[short oasis]

Tbh if you don't have t5 don't even bother touching the wall

[digital socket]

wdym the wall

[short oasis]

becuase any swarm is diddying no matter what

[short oasis]

garrison

[digital socket]

like, don't even siege a city or don't even defend a city?

[rose narwhal]

Honestly both

[short oasis]

Nah just bubble

[livid plover]

na

[digital socket]

what secondary commander should i put with martel as my garrison?

[livid plover]

even with t5

city garrison is for whale stuff

[short oasis]

tp to z4 and bubble

[livid plover]

or just be on your alliance territory

[rose narwhal]

YSG expertise

[livid plover]

how hard is that

[digital socket]

i don't have ysg

[rose narwhal]

A lot apparently

[short oasis]

he's 12m even if he had iconic 5 set and 8/8 inscriptions it wouldnt matter

swarm awayyyy

[livid plover]

unless you have more than 100m power, city garri not worht it

[rose narwhal]

Ofc but for the sake of it

[digital socket]

expertise wouldn't help if it was secondary

[livid plover]

stay on your alliance terri and use bubble ez

[livid plover]

WHAT

[short oasis]

...

[digital socket]

you just said your name

[rose narwhal]

[digital socket]

expertise helps if it's secondary??

shii

[livid plover]

hes rage baiting

na

for sure

[digital socket]

bro i'm sorry but i've been banned for 8 months gng

[rose narwhal]

Artemisa pillow, artemisa pillow

[digital socket]

i don't rembr

[livid plover]

follow these 3 steps

quit rok

leave rok discord

delete rok

ez you dont have to worry about being rallied then

[digital socket]

gng what

either way i don't have the resources to expertise ysg or get ysg

[livid plover]

if you dont play the game then you dont need to worry about being railed

[short oasis]

he does have a point though

[rose narwhal]

Fuck

That's the issue w garrisons

People don't have the resources for them

GG that's the solution to your own problem then

If u can't have a garrison then you're utterly useless to your kingdom according to your previous statements

[livid plover]

i mean i solved your problem so we good then

[short oasis]

this is why you dont join discord at 10 kids

[digital socket]

i see i see

[digital socket]

🔥

[livid plover]

jokens on you, im 6

[warped heart]

You should ask how do you become R4

[digital socket]

wdym

[warped heart]

Because being R4 is fun

[rose narwhal]

[livid plover]

if you have a kink for getting tortured yes

[halcyon atlas]

Is the maximum number of KVK registration skips now 1 time only? My kingdom skipped 1 time only and it was registered automatically for 2nd cycle

[livid plover]

yes 1

[digital socket]

no?

[warped heart]

Yes

[digital socket]

gng i might be 12m but it's not my first day on RoK

[warped heart]

Bro you think having all the authority, the right to kick anybody and the right to write mails of how bad your members are not fun?

[short oasis]

Ngl lol I get made r4 occasionally to build flags or do small tasks

Low effort and fun being one

[digital socket]

it's all fun until you're in charge of battles

[short oasis]

do you fight?'

[warped heart]

Nah you don't get in charge in battles if you say I only know how to write good mails

[digital socket]

no

[short oasis]

then you havent been in charge

[digital socket]

what's a good kvk2 tier garrison with no YSG

[warped heart]

Real

[short oasis]

8 hour peace shield

[warped heart]

A city keeper

[short oasis]

8 hour peaceshield makes all rally run away

[digital socket]

why does the #❓〡questions channel always have to be so useless

[short oasis]

most op garri 10/10 would rate

[wet imp]

it’s not

don’t take rallies and swarms if you aren’t a kraken

[warped heart]

Wym

[short oasis]

If we answered your questions they wouldnt be practical for you

[rose narwhal]

You're just asking a question that doesn't have an answer tbh

This game doesn't have 700 magical options so everyone can be happy

[digital socket]

"city keeper"

[short oasis]

I mean in the past people did constantine with something

[warped heart]

We have zman, apex and nickname to accommodate your questions

[rose narwhal]

If you don't meet certain criteria you're better off just not investing in garrisons at all

[warped heart]

It's the best?

[rose narwhal]

Yes but in his case it's clearly not useful

Gorgo garrison is something I still see in AoO these days but for this particular case if he's not gonna invest hard it's gonna be useless

[short oasis]

qin/zl is good for swarms

but ass for rally

[digital socket]

qin/zl is like

field

[short oasis]

who said I only had to use it for field?

[digital socket]

zl is good for fort reinforcement

[short oasis]

L ragebait

[digital socket]

this was swarm?

[short oasis]

yes

[digital socket]

learned that from omniarch go blame him i guess

[digital socket]

w

so 秦始皇 and 诸葛亮 are good for swarm but not rally

?

[warped heart]

This is why we collectively hate Omni in this server

[digital socket]

what about chisgule

[warped heart]

Passable

[cunning oar]

let bro cook
🗣️ 🔥

[mighty viper]

Good for basics bad for details

[digital socket]

what's a like

wait is sz garrison?

[short oasis]

taking swarm against 1-2 players sure

against atilla? hell no

But you needa be 85m power like me

[digital socket]

attila rally is lore accurate

just like the olden days frfr

iykyk

ok anyways

is SZ a passable garrison commander?

[warped heart]

Atilla is squishy

[short oasis]

idk what that is

[warped heart]

Just swarm him with stp with Bq 5x

[rose narwhal]

SZ can't be zizka right

[digital socket]

oh right

he's spelt as ST in english

ye is ST a passable garrison commander

[warped heart]

Kinda

[rose narwhal]

Don't 3 of his skills just not work while garrisoning though

Maybe for the DF but I wouldn't

[digital socket]

no?

Commander skill Art of War
Art of War
Active Skill

Rage Requirement: 1000
Deals direct damage to up to 3 targets in a fan-shaped area, and deals additional damage to the target(s) on the next turn. Sun Tzu gains additional rage for each target hit by this skill.

Upgrade Preview:
Direct Damage Factor: 150 / 210 / 270 / 360 / 450
Additional Damage Factor: 50 / 70 / 90 / 120 / 150
Rage Restored: 10 / 20 / 30 / 40 / 50

Commander skill Philosophy of War
Philosophy of War
Passive Skill

While this commander is leading the garrison of your own city, garrison troops take less damage.

Upgrade Preview:
All Garrison Troops Damage Reduction: 1% / 2% / 3% / 4% / 5%

Commander skill Master Strategist
Master Strategist
Passive Skill

Troops led by this commander take less damage, and infantry units gain increased health.

Upgrade Preview:
Damage Taken Reduced By: 4% / 5% / 6% / 8% / 10%
Infantry Health Bonus:4% / 5% / 6% / 8% / 10%

Commander skill Ever-changing Tactics
Ever-changing Tactics
Passive Skill

Troops led by this commander deal increased skill damage.

Upgrade Preview:
Skill Damage Bonus: 5% / 8% / 11% / 15% / 20%

Commander skill Book of Aeons
Book of Aeons
Enhanced: Art of War

Deals direct damage to up to 5 targets in a fan-shaped area (Damage Factor 800), and deals additional damage to the target(s) on the next turn (Damage Factor 200). Sun Tzu gains an additional 50 rage for each target hit by this skill.

and martel's skills r good

[warped heart]

His 3rd skill no worky because it only works on march scenario (leading troops) unless it saids garrisoning or I'm reading it wrong

[short oasis]

I'm still swarming and trading so positive

but I don't like t4 kp

[digital socket]

oh ok

[digital socket]

that's just 1 skill

either way

[cunning oar]

is not bro using the epic Sun tho?

[rose narwhal]

Tbh I thought we were on about STP

[cunning oar]

[digital socket]

is there a problem with regular Sun?

[short oasis]

idk what ur on tbh

ur trading so bad eitherway

[cunning oar]

I don't know, but ST is currently associated with Sun Tzu Prime.

so it creates confusion

[rose narwhal]

I mean it's associated now because he was talking about Attila 2 phrases up

[cunning oar]

It's brutal going from Attila to Epic Sun, I confess.

[digital socket]

how come

?

anyways

is uh

is martel sun a decent garrison?

like, should i invest in that?

[mighty viper]

No

[rose narwhal]

Zman thank God

[digital socket]

how come

elaborate

[short oasis]

tbh if you want to disregard our advice go ahead and use it

You can learn the hard way

[mighty viper]

Because it’s just not? There’s no reason to invest in that pairing for a garrison

[digital socket]

gng im not disregarding it

i swear to god vro

everytime i say

"how come"

or "elaborate"

ppl think i'm saying they're wrong

no bro

no

i'm genuinely curious

explain

[rose narwhal]

U gonna get muted for spam

Or warned

[urban agate]

4053

[rose narwhal]

Now

[digital socket]

it's not spam

[short oasis]

Zak 2.0 ggs

[digital socket]

i'm not repeating anything

[rose narwhal]

Martel ST isn't a good garrison because you'd likely need 4th skill of Martel's for it to work, so 5515 or expertise, and if you can afford to expertise Martel, you should instead invest in YSG, it'll bring more KP and changing value than Martel would

[digital socket]

like, is it because of their synergies not working? because i don't really have any better options unless you can tell me some

[rose narwhal]

Pretty sure it can trigger the bot though

[digital socket]

i can't get YSG, we're out of KvK1 and i'm a f2p

also Martel is good against getting swarmed (i think) because of one of his skills

[mighty viper]

They work fine together it just won’t make enough of a difference to matter in the long run

[rose narwhal]

If you're already in SOC you're rather invest in an actual SOC garrison anywayb

[digital socket]

What's a better alternative?

[digital socket]

oh alright

[rose narwhal]

Even if it's for your farm I guess

[digital socket]

what's a better SoC alternative

[digital socket]

not a farm but ok

[rose narwhal]

Get Mathias Lapu or something

[mighty viper]

Peace shield

[rose narwhal]

U said u were gonna turn it into a farm before though

[digital socket]

no that's what zman suggested

i'm still restarting <<<<<==================================

but i'm not abandoning this acc

[rose narwhal]

Well I agree with zman and I'd strongly encourage following his advice, but yeah anyway Mathias Lapu

Don't worry I can see it

[mighty viper]

If you’re needing to defend it from attacks you might as well abandon it

[digital socket]

not you, zman.

[digital socket]

that's the garrison?

[short oasis]

yes

[rose narwhal]

Yuh

[digital socket]

how do they synergize

[short oasis]

dont ask questions

[rose narwhal]

😂

[digital socket]

2/2026 KvK1-3 Field and SoC Garrison/Rally Pairings by Nickname
wow i struck gold frfr

[short oasis]

tbh chinese are taught to not ask questions

just do

[rose narwhal]

I mean they're both leadership commanders which mean both buff all units, both have circle AOE and if I'm not wrong Lapu has higher DF than Hera

Although I don't know what makes Lapu better than Hera tbh

[rose narwhal]

Interesting

[digital socket]

fahh

[digital socket]

ts is true btw

[short oasis]

too americanized

[digital socket]

bro what

imma slime u out for saying that

ok anyways

what troop type for garrison

infantry?

[rose narwhal]

All

It's leadership

Excuse me sov

[digital socket]

leadership?

[short oasis]

what

[rose narwhal]

Wat did I js witness

[rose narwhal]

Yeah that means it buffs all troop types

Besides siege

Because well fuck siege yk

[short oasis]

what

[rose narwhal]

Or well not necessarily tbh I assume Hera's exp works w siege too

[digital socket]

wait but

what kvk 2 commanders

are leadership and can garrison?

[short oasis]

none

[rose narwhal]

Wu Zetian maybe (not sure fully)

If not her yeah none

I'm not sure whether she was leadership or inf

[digital socket]

ok so inf for garrison?

[rose narwhal]

I mean it's your city you're gonna have all troop types

I don't think I understand

[short oasis]

well fck he didnt see it

😔

[rose narwhal]

😂

[high linden]

yeah wu is leadership garri

but why?

[digital socket]

where can i find a reliable wiki

with reliable info

[high linden]

i dont see any reason to choose her over martel lmfao

[rose narwhal]

I'm js answering questions man Idk

[high linden]

there is none

they're all outdated

[rose narwhal]

If only you were to scroll back up about an hour or so this would be the very least of your concerns ngl

[digital socket]

is Richard I a good garrison commander?

[high linden]

no

i mean for kvk1 suuuuure

[short oasis]

he needs that legendary role

[dawn otter]

should i upgrade gear more as low spender or focus on another march

[rose narwhal]

Are you in kvk 3?

[digital socket]

what about SoC (i'm broke)

[short oasis]

get horn

[dawn otter]

yes

[high linden]

accessories then move to next set

[rose narwhal]

Save for accesories

Craft accesories then u can move on

[high linden]

peace shield + stay in z1

[short oasis]

only horn needed

[high linden]

thats the best garrison anyone could have

[digital socket]

so there's no point of getting a garrison

?

[high linden]

yeah

[short oasis]

for you yes

[digital socket]

alright

[short oasis]

😘

[high linden]

cuz ur account is mega cooked anyways

[digital socket]

what about field

[dawn otter]

alr but which commanders should i expertise for my next march?? Rn i got 5 5 BQ expertise Liu che and i got 430 Gh's

[short oasis]

qsh/zl

[high linden]

why would u be fielding with ur acc

[digital socket]

events

[high linden]

arguably could try for 5515 bq but id say to move to qsh march

[high linden]

qsh/zl ig vro

[dawn otter]

I tried but he went 5 5 2 so i gave up

[high linden]

yeah just move on lol

[digital socket]

i said im broke 😭😭

only special commander i have is saladin

should i do saladin baibars or smth?

[dawn otter]

should i go 5 5 QSH and expertise YSG?

[rose narwhal]

U may wanna wait for new release and if your YSG isn't expertise, invest in ZL

Before investing tho

Wait for new archer commander

It's right around the corner

End of this month staet of the next one

[queen inlet]

on average how many stars does it take from 4 stars to 6 stars and how many from 0 to 6?

[digital socket]

2 stars??

and from 0 to 6 6 stars?

[dawn otter]

alr

[digital socket]

or do you mean exp

[queen inlet]

stars

like

0-6 stars

level

thing

star level

on average how many stars does it take from 4 star level to 6 star level and how many from 0 to 6?

[digital socket]

what does _ seed mean

A seed

B seed

C seed

D seed

[rose narwhal]

To explain it in some way it's the league of the kingdom, each seed has certain parameters, and based on your seed you meet other kingdoms of your same seed or at least close enough stat wise

[dawn otter]

btw whats the best way to spend these speed ups now that iam in kvk 3

[rose narwhal]

Keep saving cause SOC is a rough place

I mean the training speedups maybe a 20 GH event

Or a pre kvk

Orrrrr rather

Save for bastion quests

[dawn otter]

in kvk 3 we literally fought just 1 day and it was kinda sad , i was waiting 3 months just to fight for 1 day lol

[rose narwhal]

Average dead kvk experience

U going into KvK 4 then?

[dawn otter]

12d for kvk 3 to end but the think is my kp sucks i got only 63m kp, when we fought for 1 day i got 20m kp and i was focusing to reach at least 100m kp

so i guess they will zero me if i dont change kingdom

[rose narwhal]

I would save my training speedups then, do the quests for crystals during pre kvk and not spend anymore, save the rest and use them for bastion quests, they're heavy speedup wise but give the most crystals iirc

[rose narwhal]

Hmmm ye that's sucks

[dawn otter]

and its kinda impossible for me to find another kingdom ;

in my current state

[tiny glacier]

Is 200k power good for city 10

[dawn otter]

i think iam reaching at the end of my era lol

[rose narwhal]

Mehhh sure some kingdom out there will take you

Just gotta look well enough

[rose narwhal]

How many days in?

[tiny glacier]

I started today

But I live in Aus

So diff time zones

But rn it’s like 4pm

5

[rose narwhal]

200K it's gud for day 1

[tiny glacier]

I watched a one hour video explaining things beginners do that’s bad

I chose Egypt but changed to china

[dawn otter]

yea i will try but i hope that they wont be like my current kingdom and just fight for 1 day again

[tiny glacier]

F2P

[rose narwhal]

Hmmm I guess that does but this will be an issue later on

[rose narwhal]

I assume u know to focus on sun tzu aeth then

[tiny glacier]

Ye and the legendary guy

[rose narwhal]

We can only hope man, best of luck

[tiny glacier]

The girl I got like a hour ago I use her to make my crops grown quicker

[rose narwhal]

Cleopatra?

Or u mean aeth

[tiny glacier]

No

Uhh

[rose narwhal]

I mean I would assume aeth but the crop thing throws me off

[tiny glacier]

Constance

[dawn otter]

thx 🙏

[rose narwhal]

Oooooo

[tiny glacier]

Once I do more of the like

Compain

I’ll get AE

[rose narwhal]

Yuhhh

You're doing good so far

[tiny glacier]

Thanks

[rose narwhal]

U know about farms and such correct?

[tiny glacier]

I use to play clash of clans

Not really

So I’m making sure I get everything leveled up

[rose narwhal]

One thing to note this game is the opposite

Here u rush city hall

[tiny glacier]

Fr?

[rose narwhal]

Yuh

You'll be asked to upgrade things as u go anyway

[tiny glacier]

Damn

[rose narwhal]

It's day 1 so it's okie but from now on just push CH 25 as soon as you can

[tiny glacier]

Ok

[rose narwhal]

That's when the farms come in play and why I asked too, cause you'll need the RSS eventually

[tiny glacier]

How long will it take if I keep going at this rate?

[rose narwhal]

I dunnow depends on how many RSS u can get and whether you're in a top alliance for not

[tiny glacier]

What’s the RSS

[rose narwhal]

You should try and join be in the strongest alliance you can probably get in, as others spending will benefit you due to their chests

[rose narwhal]

Resources

It's gonna be a bottleneck

Which is why you need farms, aka more accounts that will gather RSS and send them to your main

[tiny glacier]

What things do I focus on leveling

[warped heart]

Here's your answer @digital socket

[rose narwhal]

CH 25 for structures, for commander, Sun Tzu to level 60, Aeth to 30 with fourth skill unlocked and then move on to gatherers

For tech, engineering and mathematics to level 10 and T3s

[tiny glacier]

I have nearly max the thing

Spell

That increases build speed

Mansory I think

Level 4 rn

[rose narwhal]

That's good that's good, eng and mathematics are the biggest buffs you'll get there though hence needing max

25% building speed buff and 15% research buff

[tiny glacier]

Ok

[rose narwhal]

35^

[tiny glacier]

Can I dm u

And when I need help I can ask?

Or any questions

[dawn otter]

i got this armament roll it 10 times and got nothing should i use transmutation crystal

[rose narwhal]

Rather not sorry, I'm already here when I can and I've already woken up to 40 DMs for 2 days in a row 😂

[tiny glacier]

Ah alg

[rose narwhal]

I have no issue w u pinging me though

[tiny glacier]

Alrigjt

[thorn charm]

Nope its trash

[tiny glacier]

Sparky

Idk why

But it won’t let me log into my account on my phone

Into my iPad

@rose narwhal

[rose narwhal]

Are u logging through the same method?

[tiny glacier]

Uh I think so

Email

[rose narwhal]

There's 2 ways though

Lilith email and actual Gmail

[tiny glacier]

I did Gmail

[rose narwhal]

100% sure and it's throwing you into a different account?

[tiny glacier]

A brand new one

[rose narwhal]

Hmmm one sec

Can u go to customer support - manage linking - linked something and show what it's linked to? Genuinely my only guess Is that you're getting confused, I don't think it has anything to see with the versions of the game

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[tiny glacier]

I’ll try link one more time

Through Apple play

Game Center

[rose narwhal]

Yeah I guess that would do

Although I'm not an iphone user so no idea

[tiny glacier]

I linked it through Apple Gmail and game centre

Yea alg

[digital socket]

slimed out

[tiny glacier]

@rose narwhal thanks I did it through Game Center

[rose narwhal]

Awesome

[tiny glacier]

Now I’ll just rush city 25

[rose narwhal]

Best of luck

[tiny glacier]

Thank you 🙏

[warped heart]

Good, now

[tiny glacier]

Yep

Does any1 know the best way to level up commanders/ get the books to level them up

[rose narwhal]

Expedition shop, doing barbs and doing guardians next tk holy sites

[tiny glacier]

Dyk why it won’t let me tp to where my alliencd is also

[rose narwhal]

I will assume you're in a different region in which they own no territory

[lucid tiger]

Seen some vids about people choosing troop type to focus people mainly talk about inf and arch as if cav dont exist, cav is that bad?

[tiny glacier]

Can I move to diff regions

[rose narwhal]

Yes but u need pass access or u need them to build territory

[rose narwhal]

Depends what we're talking about

Early game?

[lucid tiger]

Rn im in the early game but i wanna look into the future

[rose narwhal]

For early game meh depends on your budget tbh but cav does well

[lucid tiger]

Rn im in really early using cav cuz i have a good mina but I wanna know if its a mistakr and I should aim to rotate sometime

[rose narwhal]

As it stands right now in the late game they're lacking though

[rose narwhal]

I meaaaaan

As long as you make an archer set for QSH eventually you'll be fine

[lucid tiger]

When does late game start

[rose narwhal]

Season of conquest

[lucid tiger]

Oh

[rose narwhal]

In kvk 3 u already unlock the commanders so then, but a lot of people do Arthur Mina because they can't get Achilles for starters

[tiny glacier]

Do I use my bone necklace?

[rose narwhal]

Use them but start rallies w the rest of your alliance when the event ends

Do barbs with the daily AP with multiple marches for now

[tiny glacier]

Do I stay at spawn for early game and wait to teleport in late game

[rose narwhal]

Nahhhh you need to be next to your alliance members but for now u can't tp

[tiny glacier]

@rose narwhal how do I get these

[warped heart]

Certain specific events

Oh right for "kingdom select" you can unlock it naturally IF and ONLY IF you spend alot of money

[tiny glacier]

I’m f20/broke 😂

F2P

I like to say f2p but I’m just broke

[warped heart]

Yeah no way you can unlock those

Some skins are unlock able through events though

[honest perch]

I heard it’s a new way to like do a sleeper without a passport

Like a new journey type of thing because you log of for so long rok give you a chance to teleport your charrecter to a new kingdom

Is this true?

[short oasis]

what does that even mean

[thorny falcon]

Is wedge 2 good for archer? Do i convert hunter to wedge two?

[warped heart]

absolutely yes, currently lilith doesn't plan to change archer's unique current damage of skill damage to other types

[thorny falcon]

instead of horn and ring, can i go horn and pendant?

i mean its easy to craft pendant as it is not kvk dependent....

[warped heart]

Yes

[thorny falcon]

Please help with order of crafting equipment?

i want to go ians choice and milky way as its low spender friendly and i can get iconics on them quickly

[warped heart]

I guess do 2 leadership set first (pants boots)
ian and milky (done)
and 2 kvk helm and weapon
dismantle weapon

[thorny falcon]

that weapon cant be dismantled

it was the worst expensive mistake i made in rok

[indigo raven]

99.99$ on top

[warped heart]

whale trap

[thorny falcon]

i thought it had iconics , i dont spend a lot tbf

just the monthly gems and a few crystal packs for surviving d seed

[warped heart]

yikes anyways move on with that garbage after obtaining weapon, dont iconic that shitty weapon

[short oasis]

yhou deserve to be in a saw trap for that

[thorny falcon]

bruh i have to use mats for it, rather i though i can just put it on for 5% atk boost for timebeing than craft revival set

[short oasis]

only use of trial of the lost kingdom is for whales to get high stats quicker

for like kvk 1

[indigo raven]

ima use this for my third cav

[warped heart]

LucaMe with his crit trial of the lost kingdom sitting in nothingness

[short oasis]

free kp

for me

[thorny falcon]

3rd of anything is bad

[thorny falcon]

its a march waiting to be rekt

[indigo raven]

I know right

But it's more marche

[short oasis]

1st cavs are legit almost worse than 2nd troop types

[short oasis]

so ggs for cavs

[indigo raven]

I wont get enough archer bp

So i need to go on cav

dont play boots level 1-4

[warped heart]

cool so uh 2 archer 2 infs and 1 cav then

[short oasis]

Yes

dont do 2nd archer yet

new is around corner

[warped heart]

shit

Ialready did it to boudica

[indigo raven]

I invested on Henry

🙄

[short oasis]

I invested on ashurbanipal

[indigo raven]

So now

lets me do third cav with ico 1 level

as 6th marche

[short oasis]

real ones do 4 archer 3inf

[warped heart]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-baited-diemarchive-diemarchives-freaky-tongue-gif-5653651034614304721

[thorny falcon]

just use qin-ysg

[short oasis]

shouldnt investing in hermann rn

[thorny falcon]

and wait

[jagged spruce]

Guys I’m new to rok
Can anyone please help me out
My ch is 9 getting upgraded to 10 and power is 110k

[humble totem]

Can anyone help? I need to know what the KvK 3 shop will include.

[fringe sable]

Read the starter guide in pins

[jagged spruce]

In thus channel @fringe sable ??

[fringe sable]

Yeah

[jagged spruce]

Ok ty

[lost matrix]

bruh my vengeancea at 241 now lmao

[fringe sable]

This was for the older version it's fine now

You can go past it

Btw send the ss of afk rewards

[lost matrix]

ohh

[lost matrix]

during my max claim?

[warped heart]

Can you send it

[fringe sable]

Nah just the number per hour

[lost matrix]

that?

[fringe sable]

It's obviously more as it was around 1100/h for 199

And if i remember correctly it's 4500/h around 500

So if better now to go past it and as farther as possible

This is it for 224

@mental walrus time to update the guide bro

[lost matrix]

Ohh great

184 ig

[fringe sable]

So obviously a increase in rewards hence it's not a problem anymore

Before it was that after 200 the rewards got too much diminished

That's why it was better to stay at 199

[fringe sable]

It's the same as kvk 2 i think for you to be sure you can go and ask a player in kvk 3 in-game

[mighty viper]

Well also at the very start there was 200 levels total so there’s that too

[fringe sable]

It was only designed upto lvl 200 first then they added more and more now it's a unknown no.

[mighty viper]

Yep lol

[fringe sable]

You get golden keys gems and silver keys on every boss level so it's not worth it to stay at lvl 199 anymore lol

[mighty viper]

Apparently the upper levels get so difficult that even whales struggle to progress past a point

[fringe sable]

I tried upto 500 after that it's too much hard

At 500 the power difference was double

[mighty viper]

Yeah that seems to be the point most hit a wall

[fringe sable]

Still go as far as you can go

[mighty viper]

It’s impossible to say though because there’s only ever been one instance of vengeance getting a mention in the patch notes

[fringe sable]

That was just recently them adding a leaderboard and a auto battle like in sunset

I have checked it myself tho to confirm the fact it's a gradual increase now not a dip anywhere in between

[mighty viper]

4.2 here is literally the first recorded instance of vengeance in patch notes

#📜〡rok․news message

[warped heart]

that's why I love lilith

[lost matrix]

is bjorn weakest here to be paired?

[thorny falcon]

sun and aeth, use them

[lost matrix]

infantry? also about sun + baibars is this also infantry?

[thorny falcon]

infantry you can use sun and aeth

baibars is a cavalry commander

[mighty viper]

No Bai should never be used in an infantry pairing

[lost matrix]

oh i cant use baibars afterall im infa lol

[mighty viper]

Honestly whoever published this should be disregarded this advice is hot garbage

[lost matrix]

sun + aeth
is sun + bjorn 2nd best?

[thorny falcon]

depends on heads you have

aeth debuffs and is useful in kvk 2 too beyond which she is mid

sun is the same, kvk 3 and beyond you need legendry commanders

[mighty viper]

In KVK3 you get commander swaps so you should be using SOC pairs

[fringe sable]

Need to remove Bjorn from here and add boudica instead

[lost matrix]

for very low spender which commanders?

[thorny falcon]

sun and aeth, after that just use meta qsh-ysg, achilles-arthur etc

[mighty viper]

Honestly remove both

[thorny falcon]

im returning after 1 year , so not sure what the current meta atm is , dont go by me on it

[lost matrix]

is there time where bjorn was very good?

[fringe sable]

Just let them have fun using their remaining epic heads

[fringe sable]

Never it was just a myth

[mighty viper]

They should go to gathering commanders after sun.

[thorny falcon]

bro f2p and low spender are always kp fodder, all we can do is minimize damage we take by playing smart

use meta marches , use meta gear etc

[lost matrix]

does farmer hunting work?

[thorny falcon]

whales blow like 10-20 k usd per month on this

[fringe sable]

Until you exp Matilda using heads rest are mostly exp from the chests

[thorny falcon]

no , farming is bad

you wont get good kd if you just farm down the line

[mighty viper]

No just do all of them then move on to peacekeeping commanders

[mighty viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lordfibo-lordzfebz-gif-25361200

[thorny falcon]

all im saying is just dont make rok your life, understand the limitations of being f2p and low spender , your life is happy

[lost matrix]

i mean hunting their farmers on farm spots

[thorny falcon]

bro will get zeroed

follow kd rules bruh

[mighty viper]

f2P need to maintain multiple farms and be farming gems on their main constantly

[thorny falcon]

he is asking about killing farm troops bro

[mighty viper]

So no, farming is not “bad” that is too simplistic

[thorny falcon]

see this lol

either im confused or op is, based on what i understand bro wants to farm hunt which is farm kill in rok terms

[mighty viper]

That was said after you claimed farming was “bad”

[thorny falcon]

he mentioned farmer hunting, i typed farming, i meant farming kp

i actually came here to ask do i use ians choice or no?

still confused cuz youtubers saying its trash gear piece

[fringe sable]

You will be compromising march speed if you go for that

[thorny falcon]

i crafted milky way already cuz its cheap

i can get it from lucerne

[kindred kelp]

hi

is dark fortress event is pvp damage or barbarian bonus damage or both at the same time ?

[fringe sable]

You can use it but at the end the thing is that meta sets are crafted for the best optimization of your stats

We go for set piece just as we get march speed just for exchange of some attack and defense

[thorny falcon]

yeah i get it, isnt there a way to optimize march speed now?

with milky way?

[fringe sable]

It's counted as pvp i think

[kindred kelp]

ok, what about the level 1 pass are they infantry in there or barbarians

[fringe sable]

Barbs

[fringe sable]

Ohh my bad it's not march speed for archers it's attack and defense bonus

March speed is for inf

[thorny falcon]

ohh ok

[fringe sable]

Milky way is fine

But not the best

[quartz drum]

When I want to sleep from a 20d old kingdom into a a 10d old kingdom and I have a Charakter in that 10d kd can I mitgrate there?

[dusty kiln]

Is the "no migration pre kvk 1" already in effect or is it something that has still yet to come ? Can't really find infos about that beside the patchnote they sent 10 days ago

[thorny falcon]

last question, what are the chances we get new lvl 50 gear?

like kvk weapon and helmet? i hope not

that would destroy many players except whales

[fringe sable]

Kvk weapon and helmet are surely not easy to get that's why there are two meta sets made

The one with kvk weapon and helm surely trades better but is harder to get

Btw if you go with set piece instead of ian's choice and milky way you are getting 2.5% attack in exchange of 1% health

[fringe sable]

After 4062 it's applicable

[fringe sable]

Migration in early game is not available anymore you can't migrate before kvk 1

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[umbral hawk]

Hello, is this inscription effective on QSH? Theoretically it seems to work, but has it been proven in practice?

[dusty kiln]

Oh nice, it's not really mentionned anywhere in game, it feels like even in immigration description ig nothing mentions it

[fringe sable]

They said the new continents after the update and 4063 is the first kd there

[fringe sable]

Yeah it does

[dusty kiln]

They said something like "This will be first available through pioneer experience in some select new continents", wording seems kinda weird to just say "All kingdoms after this patch"

[fringe sable]

You can see the tier list at wardaddy chadski channel

[fringe sable]

You can migrate in a region but not outside of it and it is applicable to new continent kingdoms

[umbral hawk]

I haven’t noticed he uploaded one. Ty I’ll watch it now <3

[warped heart]

yes it works and proven, very good actually

[umbral hawk]

Is it really better than assertive ?

I mean it’s a 2% damage

[warped heart]

of course

skill damage is basically all damage for qsh

[manic chasm]

i have an important question

i bought 10$ flux and bought 2200 + 2200 clamyks but I didn’t get anything good from fountain of dreams event so I decided to try refunding the flux. There is a flux refunding option in customer support and I have submitted a ticket there, do you think they will return my flux and delete all the shitty tickets that I got from fountain event?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[terse mason]

Probs doesn't work that way lmao

Imagine yu go gambling and win a bubble gum instead of a car for 10 bucks, can yu refund the bubble gum for 10 bucks then?

[fringe sable]

Won't that be cheating they will probably not refund it like this

There should be refund terms and conditions somewhere

[terse mason]

Ye exactly

Make it make sense

[worldly chasm]

is 5551 gangam with expe achilles better than expe arthur achilles?

[fringe sable]

exp arthur/Achilles is better than exp gg/Achilles

[terse mason]

No

[quartz drum]

So pre kvk1 sleeper doesnt work anymore?

[vagrant plume]

According to this which R4 title can handle events management like summoning karuak bosses, registering for AOO, silk road etc?

[lost matrix]

should i use my gkeys now?

[fringe sable]

When there are other legendary commanders too then

[fringe sable]

Yeah

[fringe sable]

Yeah

[lost matrix]

Oh, when is other legendary coming?

[fringe sable]

In a week or two

[manic chasm]

yes you need to upgrade cc to swap him later

[wet imp]

either worth rerolling?

[fringe sable]

You will use this on ? QSH right ?

[wet imp]

that’s the plan. pre kvk 2 right now

[fringe sable]

Why invest this much early

[indigo raven]

that a good boi

keep going @wet imp

[fringe sable]

I just hope he now will have enough for pincer and wedge 2.0

[wet imp]

🤣 i just work here idk

[mental walrus]

Why?

[wet imp]

what the flip dude 🤓

[indigo raven]

[fringe sable]

I have all the ss and stuff up there in chat

[mental walrus]

Uh

[fringe sable]

There's no dip in afk rewards anymore

[mental walrus]

Is there not

[fringe sable]

They fixed it

[mental walrus]

Ok

[fringe sable]

See from here

[mental walrus]

But how can we compare that to someone else

That hasn’t passed level 200

You have pic?

[fringe sable]

We have for lvl 242 224 186

[fringe sable]

I just forgot to take ss exact at that

But if rewards at

224 is greater than 186

And rewards at 242 is greater than 224

[mental walrus]

What’s the 186 one

[fringe sable]

Then ofc there's no dip and it's increasing

[fringe sable]

This

[mental walrus]

Ok I see

[steady tinsel]

Is it better to Make T2 then Upgrade to T4 when event come ?

[fringe sable]

You are talking about the event where you have train t2+ troops right ? Then yes

[steady tinsel]

no like in general

Should I make only T2 and then when there's a big event I upgrade them all to T4 ?

[mental walrus]

Doesn’t really matter

Just upgrade until you can’t upgrade anymore and then train t4

[manic chasm]

only t4 -> t5 works like that

for example if you wanna push zenith you should save a lot of t4 and then upgrade

[steady tinsel]

what about kvk1 ?

[fast niche]

do you think its worth paying 7200 gems for this?

[lethal jacinth]

fml?

reset for this

[thorny falcon]

i would not

[manic chasm]

do you need it

[thorny falcon]

1 stone costs 9.99 usd or 10 k gems , but imo both are bad worth stuff - get it for free from kvk

[warped heart]

replace

then gamble again

[fringe sable]

If you don't need it then leave it

But if those 7200 are satisfying your needs then it's a right time to go for it

[rugged turtle]

If my alliance has migrated, already and they want to migrate back to a more powerful kingdom should I follow? I am a top 300 player in this kd but I’m not sure how many people get selected for KVK so I guess is it better to be in a more powerful kd or a less powerful but I’m higher up in it?

[toxic oasis]

To play rok on a laptop does it need to be a good laptop?

[thorn charm]

Nope

[rapid kernel]

What cav cammder should I unlock in cammder recharge event for cav

[fringe sable]

Huh you do need a good laptop

[fringe sable]

What are the options for you ?

[fringe sable]

You do need a good one it will lag a lot in kvk's when there will be many matches there on map

[tiny ingot]

I need help: I’m looking for a kingdom to migrate to.
I currently have around 60M power and 380M kill points after 4 KvKs. I know these stats aren’t great, but I’m willing to fight and improve.

The issue is that I don’t have a lot of time to play actively, so I’m looking for a kingdom that’s not too competitive but still participates seriously in KvK.

What kind of kingdoms should I be looking for?
Which seed would make the most sense, and are there any specific kingdoms that fit this playstyle, where I can gain more kill points without insane pressure or activity requirements?

[modest vigil]

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