❓〡questions

[small spade]

how do passports work and what are the phases (like i think you can’t switch to pre kvk1 after you are in kvk1)

[abstract hazel]

What the best for olympe in season 1 ?

[kindred kelp]

How much kp is good kp kvk 1

[short oasis]

depends on your power

[kindred kelp]

like 11-15m and a low spender.

[short oasis]

try to get 20-30m

[kindred kelp]

alrighty

[stable flame]

that's not good at all imo

aim for 70+

Might seem hardcore but if U want to get into a good alliance or stay in Ur current one U gotta have a ton of contribution

[icy reef]

dont play the game f2p

Not worth it

[rose narwhal]

Lmfao 💔

[short oasis]

real

[mental nest]

😔😔 So no one knows the answer

[tepid oracle]

in this game, how do i set up that inactive alliance members get auto kicked?

[thorny falcon]

is this game still the same old p2w spam it was or can we take breaks while staying in a kd for irl stuff? Do players still get zeroed for being inactive in 1 kvk?

[tepid oracle]

Hmm cannot find an option to auto kick inactive players

[stable flame]

3rd party bot I think

game doesn't support that feature

[stable flame]

The game literally just got wayyy more p2w

[tepid oracle]

Oh, any ideas where to get that bit

[stable flame]

Now it's very hard to sustain and keep up with the meta since the introduction of 2.0+ formations

[stable flame]

nope no idea

[stable flame]

if Ur talking about kvk 2 off season then it's 1 and a half months

or 4 weeks

[mighty viper]

No it’s against TOS to use that sort of thing

[stable flame]

[tepid oracle]

So how do you figure out who was not logged in the most? Like most of the games have this feature

[mighty viper]

The game sends a daily list of players inactive for more than 4 days

[stable flame]

Like 4 days later U will get a mail saying who's been inactive

[tepid oracle]

Oh ok

Thanks

[stable flame]

but no auto kick feature

[tepid oracle]

It's np, keeping trac6who is inactive is hardest part

[mental nest]

Thanks for answering but someone already answered me.

[wintry eagle]

When I do a rally for gathering ressources, does my second hero skills applies too ? (in the same rally)

[fringe sable]

Only the rally captian's commander stats matter

[wintry eagle]

Even for the skills ? Sound dumb for gathering heros D:

[fringe sable]

Btw can you explain what you're talking about cuz you can't rally for gathering resources

Are you taking about the resource pit ?

[wintry eagle]

Simpliest collect on the map

ressource point ? (google trad)

[fringe sable]

You can't rally resources points only one person can gather at a time

[twilit python]

I have a question. The game was previously updated, and the update stated that migration in the original kingdom would be limited. Has that update been implemented, or is it, as stated, a new special continent? I have an alliance in 4062, and will migration be possible in future kingdoms?

[fringe sable]

Yeah it will implemented from new continents kd upto 4064 are allowed for migration but after that maybe not

[twilit python]

Ok

[ornate mantle]

When can you extinish flags in KvK? I attacked a flag, burned it (no garrison) and 4 minutes later, it was healing

[cosmic dock]

When kd 4065 opened?

[warped heart]

When Fruitdealer uploads a video

[stark dew]

Dude made the game popular for 4 videos and left

Saaad

How does jumping and before kvk1 migration work now btw?

Is it any kingdom after 10 days that i can migrate to

and get like 20 days of advantage or are there rules

[radiant perch]

would CC Choe yeong work for chaining

cav gear and mid circle armaments

CY 5111 CC Exp

[limber scroll]

Yes, its a good march for chaining

[radiant perch]

ok thanks : )

[ocean estuary]

guys , i want to start a project today in 4065, someone in for that? write me in dm

[ripe oriole]

hi, is there any excel or something that listing every building and what it need,time, rss, and power per level?

[radiant perch]

go on rok calculator

on google it is great

dont forget to input helps and building speed %

[ripe oriole]

cool thanks!

[ocean estuary]

guys , i want to start a project today in 4065, someone in for that? write me in dm

[paper aspen]

anyone has any tip to do better in kvk1

[manic chasm]

migrate to the worst kd and chill

[paper aspen]

jajaaj

okay gracias

[warped heart]

Read guides in YouTube

[thorny falcon]

when will the new kd start

[ocean estuary]

fr

[red oracle]

Why when I opened chests from haunting barb fortresses the chests aren't giving free ap anymore after new updates

[ocean estuary]

come in dm fam i asked u somethinf

[rose narwhal]

There's a limit per week

[ebon vessel]

19 UTC

[upper forge]

Around what day in the kingdom does the first mtg appear?

[neon furnace]

Hello, any idea how to fix this on both android and pc version? Been like it since latest update

[rose narwhal]

Same time as for everyone else as long as the KD is 21+ days old

[high linden]

post in #🐞〡bugs . its a known bug

[iron frost]

hey i havent played in 3+ years and i only have this (casual player), can i cook any marches with this ? for archers? 🙏

[manic chasm]

qsh zhuge

[iron frost]

thanks is there a talent tree somewhere i can copy for qsh?

[iron frost]

Tyvmm

[stable flame]

Until now which is kvk 2 I havent gotten a single legendary BP from keys is that normal?

[fringe sable]

You're cursed

[crimson mural]

Does anybody know when the barbs and resources start to disappear in Lost Kingdom?

[fallen fractal]

can i write to someone in private, I have a few questions about kvk 1 ?

[cunning oar]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1250004070094340126

[ocean estuary]

i cant put it there

[cunning oar]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1249996419243442186
check the rules

[manic chasm]

me

[lean matrix]

30 mins ago

[lone matrix]

Are these good inscriptions to convert to wedge 2.0?
Also I have to reset both of them to get archer stats

[high linden]

whats the most efficient way to grind marauders besides chaining?

[ornate mantle]

When does a marker like this appear?

[mighty viper]

Chaining or 5 marching

[high linden]

when a major war starts (e.g. pass 4, kingsland .etc)

[high linden]

i've been 5 marching constantly only seem to have 1m first day

some people have way more than me is there another way other than those 2

[mighty viper]

Not really any that would be more effective

[high linden]

dang alright then thanks

[ornate mantle]

I thought the same, but we dont have a marker above our fight. But i recon there are more deaths/wounded then in the picture

[high linden]

click battle list at the top left

your marker may have been unlisted in the map (sometimes happens)

[ornate mantle]

Ahh, i see, thanks

[thorny falcon]

Hello again , my main is in 1xxx series kd, its zeroed and a bit drained atm, im hoarding dailies and monthly gems in it atm - started a new acc today to build a t5 farm, so the question is can i bring my main to 4k series kd when it touches SOC?

by hoarding im planning to get dailies for ~9 months straight and build like 500k ish gems in it before reviving it, that way i can hoard like 600 day uni speeds too

havent played in a year

looks like this atm and have 57k gems atm (3 marches) and the reason im doing it is giving myself a cushion, crystal tech and fights are mandatory anywhere includind d seeds and ill be stuck in a loop as im a low spender

[lone matrix]

?

[mighty viper]

For that kingdom’s KVK5 yes it should be possible

[thorny falcon]

hey there, been a long time ! how are you doing

and do you think what im doing is a good idea lol

[mighty viper]

Hard to say, probably not, but depends on the kingdom you end up going to

[thorny falcon]

could you please explain the downsides? id be going in with 500k gems, 700 day speeds with credit in the bank cuz i fought 4 kvks for the kd i would be in by then and am bringing in a strong acc?

then id take a vacation permit , up my main slowly and convert the younger acc to a farm...

[mighty viper]

The kingdom you end up going to may not be very stable or active long term. You would also need to get approval from the leadership of that KD or you will have problems

[thorny falcon]

yeah thats something ill handle slowly, i mean its hard to say whether id stay in the same kd anyway

[mighty viper]

Also something to not is “T5 farms” are often expected to be full contributors to the kingdom they are in. The power and matchmaking weight will demand as much

[thorny falcon]

ideally i wanted to restart on my main , but it doesnt have speeds and comms are a generation old - and yeah thats the biggest downside, idk if kds would accept t5 farms , probably d seeds would - atleast they used to a year ago

[pine panther]

Is there an original server age limit for kvk s1? Like, is there a limit to how long i could stay in kvk1 if i keep jumping forward?

[thorny falcon]

1 kvk 1 per acc iirc

[mighty viper]

D seeds as they existed several years ago no longer exist

[thorny falcon]

wdym??

[mighty viper]

You can only move backwards or forwards 10d if the kingdom you’re in was created before this most recent update

[pine panther]

What if my city doesnt go to the lost kingdom?

[pine panther]

I thought this was only during the initial prep phase?

[mighty viper]

That doesn’t matter whatsoever

[mighty viper]

Yes if you’re talking about within season 1 itself then you can only migrate to the 4KDs within your KVK1 bracket

[pine panther]

Ok, thanks

And it's 10 forward days during the off-season? Sorry, having trouble finding info

[glass turtle]

Any leaks about archers yet

[mental walrus]

No

[ornate mantle]

When will they be annouced?

[ornate mantle]

Yes; you cant migrate to a kingdon in KvK/pre-KvK

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[mental walrus]

🤷‍♂️

[glass turtle]

Damn it

[cunning oar]

maybe next week

[glass turtle]

[iron frost]

returning player, current best open field archer march ? SOC

[manic chasm]

qsh zl

some people prefer qsh ysg instead

[iron frost]

nice, there are new archers coming out soon too is what i hear, should i wait? or qsh zl should still be solid?

[manic chasm]

you can get qsh but not zl, wait for new archers

[iron frost]

thanks 🙏

[pseudo ore]

If I spend $10k 5 minutes into the kd, how much power am I getting at day 1?

[stark dew]

t4+

[pseudo ore]

Only T4?

😭

[stark dew]

t5 takes alot more

[pseudo ore]

How much pow tho

[stark dew]

good question

probably like 10-20m or so if i had a guess

[pseudo ore]

T4 possible 800$ d1?

[stark dew]

im too uneducated for this

xd

[pseudo ore]

Lll

Lol

[short oasis]

You can get t5 before kvk 1 if you spread it out

Need like 40m power

[pseudo ore]

How much pow would I have at day 1 if I spend 800$?

And how much pow at day 1 if I spend 500$

@short oasis

[short oasis]

Idk

[manic chasm]

just spend and see

[pseudo ore]

Alr haha

[lethal jacinth]

Worth resetting?

[iron crater]

I would like to share with my kingdom a tier list of commanders/commander pairs for barb forts, to help getting less sev woundeds during offseason. Is there one?

[raven zephyr]

What’s the mge cycle

[raven zephyr]

Yes

[lucid tiger]

New player here any guide or some sort of a doc so I could understand the terms of the game

[fringe sable]

In pins

[lucid tiger]

I read it didn’t understand some of the game slang tbh

[fringe sable]

Try google them

[lucid tiger]

No

O

Auto correct

Meant to say ok lol

Ty

[fringe sable]

You're welcome

[fringe sable]

Inf Arc Lead Cav

[raven zephyr]

Fuk

So 2 more months until infantry again

[glass turtle]

[small pebble]

174m kp as f2p end of k1 good? its my first time playing i do invest a lot of time tho

[mental walrus]

yeah

[short oasis]

well done

[fringe sable]

Your power is amazing too as of a f2p after kvk 1

[foggy silo]

Is Soar on wedge II value?

[manic chasm]

looks like a scam

or you watched a few beginner guides before starting

[stable flame]

Do U think it's worth reporting to Lilith?

Istg I onced opened 50 keys and all I got was purple arch helm

[cunning tangle]

Hello, I am about 64 days into my kingdom, i was wondering what would be the most efficient way to spend my gems because i am kinda in a bit of a situation, i have 46k gems, i haven't spent on mtg today yet. I am gonna get another 40k gems from the growth fund with ch 25, issue is, egg event is around the corner apparently and also I'd like to max out YSG wheel since i have 350 GHs.
I am gathering about 600-1k gems a day, if I spend 25k gems on MTG i'd be very close to vip 11 (few k) but then i would have 0 to spend on egg event and i would have to save everything for YSG wheel which is in 2 weeks from what I have been told, what would be the best course of action here?

[leaden musk]

Need a advice, should i spend gems on books? never bought a book because i was focusing in VIP 15, now that i am already there and there is no event to spend on equippment. What should i do? still need 12k500 books . I dont care playing t4, but, i am losing 39% status because of that, so idk if i should just spend gems on books or just getting from barbs.

[radiant perch]

how many coins can i get per kvk and where from

[silk ether]

How can I increase my alliance contribution or is it only donations?

[heavy bolt]

Egg event won’t show up

[pale verge]

Who are the best infantry comanders for preparation season?

[radiant perch]

sun tzu ysg

[pale verge]

Thanks

Wait ysg for infantry?

[lean matrix]

Reveal thyself any value?

[limber scroll]

For mid-high spenders yes. exception for f2p and low spenders is if you are close to pulling a rare/special inscription from the pity

[lean matrix]

is there a way to go about it? or just open them all for every stage?

[limber scroll]

Well, opening the epic ones is a bit of a gamble because of the low percentage to pull a legendary out of an epic one

Its good that it allows you clear the floor and not spend gems to refresh but first few floors are free to refresh

So I would pick the 20-25 ticket legendary ones in the free floors and once it starts to cost a lot of gems to refresh the floor, open everything because at that point it becomes better to spend tickets on low epic ones than spending 500 gems to refresh the floor - from a gem cost perspective

[pale verge]

How would ysg help for infantry?

[lean matrix]

makes sense thank you

[limber scroll]

YSG skill damage bonus is universal and not tied up to troop type, so epic sun tzu/ysg boosts your damage a lot

[high linden]

in a kvk 1-2 sense, although YSG is archer, you can mostly treat him as a leadership

because of his versatile 4th skill

[near prawn]

how many regist can we skip?

[white tapir]

what do people do in SOC 1 alliance kingdoms, cause alliance capacity in kvk is higher so do they have alliance not at full capacity, or do they have people sitting in other alliances in offseason

[faint pasture]

I'm at kingdom 4062 can I migrate to 4065?

[latent bear]

whats the best city garrison ?

[dreamy plinth]

Peace shield

[latent bear]

lol

[mighty viper]

One

[halcyon flame]

how do I get more marches in sunset canyon mine is locked at 3 rn

[near prawn]

okay thanks man

[rose narwhal]

Higher CH level

[wintry lintel]

Does anyone have a screenshot of all the available time slots there is to register for AOO.

[wary hawk]

So are sleepers not a thing no more

[mighty viper]

They aren’t

[white tapir]

where is Liu Che on gathering of heroes event?

[rose narwhal]

I believe tier 1 so the very first stage

[fringe sable]

I don't think you can report things like this cuz it's a luck thing

[lost matrix]

i just started, about these gold keys i get for each level of barbarian do i use them right away?

[fringe sable]

I personally used to do 10 spins it's your personal choice nothing really changes

[mighty viper]

Save them

Until Cao is not the only commander available. (Should be like 1-2 weeks)

[short oasis]

we fill main alliance with farms and mains

[fringe sable]

I think using them for CC is more valuable. You get a strong barb fort commander and ofc the commander swap

[mighty viper]

It’s smarter for most F2P and low spenders (most people) who aren’t buying the full bundle to have 2 separate commanders to swap. If they put everything into Cao they only get one swap

[short oasis]

@white tapir also in soc we usually have far from enough mains to fill the alliance

Like for example I'm in a Low A seed kingdom with 50-60 mains

[white tapir]

dayum I wouldn't have though an A seed could have that few

we are currently high A in kvk2, but we want to aim for B seed in SOC

maybe low A is more realistic

[short oasis]

Seeding is based off kp more not power

You can have 400 mains like 1001 but if that adds up to very little kp then you are like 1001 😅

[mighty viper]

Tbh everyone’s perception of seed is so warped that discussion of what a kingdom’s seed actually is is near impossible

[short oasis]

@white tapir What I base off is
120b or lower is D
less than 200b is C
less than 300b is B
less than 600b is Low A
less than 1t is Mid A
1t+ is high A

in kp

[mighty viper]

But it’s not only KP, nor is it only KP and power. Development (progress through the personal technologies) also factors into the equation

There’s not a good way to quantify that specific metric lol

[short oasis]

The majority of players mingling past D seed will have their academy maxed 😬

[mighty viper]

Refer to this post https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1428351604716732497 for questions about matchmaking @white tapir

[short oasis]

@mighty viper Wasn't referring to seeding applied to mm but how I see kingdoms in term of kp

[mighty viper]

Here’s the actual relevant passage there’s multiple points that are very difficult for the public to quantify

[short oasis]

Lots of clarification needed but I think overall progression of active players would apply to this

[mighty viper]

Your personal opinion on seeding is irrelevant. Leon was asking about matchmaking because he’s in a newer kingdom that will be entering SOC soon.

[short oasis]

I'll tell you this, but kp is still a major factor in mm. There is reason why the system matches the kp of the camps similarly somewhat consistently.

If you're telling me kp in general means little to nothing then I have nothing to say to you

[fringe sable]

I have noticed one thing that once "only CC" is over in golden chests CC become very very rare to get by which you can only get him to like 5111 at most until swap if you go the other way around you can get him 5511 and pyh or CM 5511 too until that time

But maybe it's solely on luck

Can't be sure about that

[mighty viper]

It’s Luck/RNG

Keys are literally a “gotcha” mechanic

[fringe sable]

Yeah that's why I'm not sure to spend those keys early or later

It can go either way

[short oasis]

CC isnt good anyway

wouldnt worry about it

[mighty viper]

The common wisdom since they introduced the spotlight mechanism is just to save till other commanders are available

[rose narwhal]

I had the same doubt and I think it's zman that said a f2p wouldn't generate enough keys to get CC to a swappable level (or 5511 at least ig) so it really has little effect on most people who choose not to save

[fringe sable]

Yeah but can be used for forts early game

[fringe sable]

Need to be a lucky one

I have even seen people get him to 5311 on just day three

But as zman said it's pure RNG

[manic chasm]

spend

you should get cc for swap

[white tapir]

I mean most people spend some, not just f2p

and if people get CC to a decent level from the keys in the first week

and can get some dailies to improve him some more, he's pretty swappable

[short oasis]

It's a shame it couldnt be martel or thut

[manic chasm]

you want too much

[white tapir]

if it was thut I would go crazy mode

[short oasis]

same

archer on top

[white tapir]

thut finally opened on the dailies yesterday in my kd and I randomly got 26 across the 2 days to finish off expertise

[rose narwhal]

What day is it of the KD?

[fringe sable]

Why expertise now lol 😂 it's kvk 2 for you

[white tapir]

180

[fringe sable]

Or are you a archer main on this account

[white tapir]

he still cooks in kvk2

and yeh I'm archer rally in this kvk

[fringe sable]

If you get YSG behind him

[white tapir]

CJ with thutmose??????

you mean YSG? got him expertise

[rose narwhal]

😂

[fringe sable]

Oh damnn lol yeah YSG

[white tapir]

yeah got Thut-YSG cooking as my rally, 3 crit full legendary iconic gear

[fringe sable]

It will cook

[short oasis]

edward so shi his 2500 single cant even make him useful for rallies

[white tapir]

Screw that banana hat man

Thutmose anti swarm is so good

I just need better armaments

don't even have a rare inscription yet

or a double

[fringe sable]

What if there was no upper rage cap

[short oasis]

*d!ldo hat

[short oasis]

all i know is that his damage output is akin to a 1111 legendary

[stable flame]

I feel like it's too coincidental my luck is not this bad( I hope)

[coarse bobcat]

I have a question. I have a pasport to transfer out of an server, but i dont know how to use it to go to another server.

[mighty viper]

You have to be ch 16 and your target kingdom has to be eligible for migration

[coarse bobcat]

I am lvl 17

And i have found it.

[mighty viper]

Ok so you figured it out?

[coarse bobcat]

Yes, i figured out.

[green venture]

I have below Inscription
Bluster + Alert
Bluster + Fit

Which Commanders is best equipped? Can recommend?

[fringe sable]

You can try reporting it but I don't think there will be a solution to this

I never seen one

[warped heart]

What does bluster, fit and alert do?

[serene creek]

Is alex good as a secondary barb fort commander

Want to pair with boudica on my second acc

[green venture]

I check

[real gulch]

Where can I find a place with all the talent tree of every commanders ?

[native sable]

No, just use a commander with barb damage like aethel lol

[fringe sable]

You can use discord bots

[serene creek]

Im using max boudica and liu 5513 secondary and getting 3.5k wounds even though im filling up with 2 t5 marches - idk why

The wounds are so high

[glad beacon]

When and what will the next zenith be?

[native sable]

Get rid of liu. Be sure to link gear to presets

And check talents

[native sable]

Every 3 month. Lost track sorry

I THINK its cav inf arch leadership. So next could be arch

[shut sapphire]

anyone know how to setup bluestacks so i can have multiple instances of the game opened

[umbral whale]

Which gathering commander is best to get from the selection chests?

[stable flame]

seodok

[crisp sonnet]

Where should i spend gems? To richard I or vip point? (As F2P player, in the very beginning game)

[manic chasm]

no

[manic chasm]

cleo

[lost matrix]

i started my acc today, can i still jump when 4069 opens?

[fringe sable]

Only 10 spin the wheels rest goes to VIP during MTG event

[thorny falcon]

i think ill jump too 65 has a fk ton of whales bruh

[lost matrix]

how to know

[lost lark]

can anyone please help me with my question in linup.help pls

[crisp sonnet]

Will those events release at the same time?

[fringe sable]

Mostly no cuz both have different cycles

I recommend watching a video regarding gem spending for f2p so that you can understand all this better

[lost matrix]

i started my acc today, can i still jump when 4069 opens?

[manic chasm]

no

[native sable]

Seondeok and pepin as their expertise give bonus rss, which is better than bonus chests

[urban dune]

Since the new updates, does anyone know how many kvk skips we get now ?

[mental walrus]

?

[manic chasm]

1

[mental walrus]

stop trolling

[manic chasm]

idk i thought cleo expertise gave gathering speed

[stable flame]

seondok gives bonus 30% load and 10% extra resource from the finished node

Cleo gives extra resource items

This is resource items

And the amount she gives barely has an impact

[manic chasm]

yeah i already checked them

cleo gives 90 lvl 1 rss packs

90k rss basically

[royal yoke]

how to post kd ad

[cunning oar]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1249996419243442186
check the rules

[main knoll]

Someone got the cave positions for maps?

Just ping

[zealous lava]

Why is no one doing the realm mode

[fringe sable]

You usually have to wait for like 6-7 minutes

[zealous lava]

U can only do it once for reward?

[fringe sable]

If you complete it till the end yeah

[zealous lava]

I see i already did all 3 chieftain i redid it

Try to get chest and got nothing at end

[fringe sable]

Yeah you don't get it again

[zealous lava]

Okay good to know i dont gotta do it more than once

[tepid oracle]

I'm on a new server. Is it worth to use all gold keys now while only one legendary commander is available or save for later when others are unlocked

[mighty viper]

It’s better to save

[manic chasm]

open all to upgrade cao and swap before kvk 3

[mighty viper]

That’s not ideal for F2P and low spenders

[lethal jacinth]

Why not

Might as well get some more heads for swap than spread out on comms we won’t use

[mighty viper]

You get two swaps, if you put too much into CC and you aren’t buying the bundle you won’t get a second swap

[ripe frost]

Hey does anyone have an event calendar with the smaller events Included like game of power etc, I found many but only contain AOO , hammer and GH events.

Or even a discord server that contains it

[fringe sable]

King codex or fleisch both do have calanders

[ripe frost]

Yup 👍🏻 just got sent it

Ty

[fringe sable]

And the events like game of power etc. are just early game and only depends on when that kingdoms was created so no one will have that on their calander

[manic chasm]

72 tickets for cc swap and 48 for second commander swap is ideal

[tardy garnet]

How long would it +- take for a low spender to hoard 10years of speedups ?

[manic chasm]

3.5 years i think

[tardy garnet]

More than I thought

[manic chasm]

it's the fucking dumbest thing to do

saving speedups as a f2p

just play the game

saving that all to push zenith and then get bored and quit the game

[tardy garnet]

How many kvk coins can you get each Kvk (if you win and if you lose)

[split heath]

Hey can a soc account migrate and play with my friends in kvk4?

[mighty viper]

No

[rose narwhal]

Through team migration maybe

[manic chasm]

with your friends?

[mighty viper]

Perhaps, but isn’t the target KD somewhat random? Also it’s one account joining a KD where the other accounts already are

[rose narwhal]

Not for team migration no

Team migration u pick through every SOC KD out there

Except imperium's and KDs in kvk

[manic chasm]

yes if the account is less than 150d older than the target kingdom

[iron frost]

my friend hasnt played in years and just came back is this a value swap? she mains cav and her most latest cav march she has is nevsky joan

[junior oyster]

Should i use gear on aether paired with sun or no? kvk 1

[rose narwhal]

What commanders does she have expertised and can she get achiles?

For one cav march Arthur achiles it's best, although since she has Joan, she can do Joan Arthur if she can't get Achilles

[iron frost]

she has nevsky joan both expertised aside from khan, and she might be able to unlock achilles as well

[subtle beacon]

guys i js downlaoded the game, which civilisation should i pick?

[rose narwhal]

Okay so if she can get Achilles swap khan for Achilles and Nev for Arthur if she can as well

How many GH?

Does your friend have

[rose narwhal]

China

[mighty viper]

Always start with China

[subtle beacon]

why china

[rose narwhal]

5% building buff

• best epic commander for f2p

[mighty viper]

Building buff and you get Sun Tzu

[subtle beacon]

il take yalls word for it

[rose narwhal]

Why would we lie

[subtle beacon]

i have no clue 😭

[rose narwhal]

😂

[subtle beacon]

for the love of the game ig

[iron frost]

0 rn 😔

[mighty viper]

I mean a lot of people just troll new players so I understand their apprehension

[subtle beacon]

im only playin this game to get 20 million power so ppl respect and like me more 😼

[rose narwhal]

U think she could max the bundle for swap?

It's 50$ max

[mighty viper]

The ads are wrong lol, nobody cares tbh

[iron frost]

what bundle?

[subtle beacon]

NOOOOOO

💔

[rose narwhal]

Swap comes with a bundle that gives tickets

So you can swap another commander

[subtle beacon]

ima go to u and sparkzy every time i need help now

[iron frost]

ah i see

cant she spend gems for the tickets?

[mighty viper]

[rose narwhal]

You'd have to do the math but I believe you need to max the bundle in order to swap 2 commanders

[rose narwhal]

They're limited though

[mighty viper]

Yes but only half of the tickets are available via gems

[rose narwhal]

120 tickets and iirc that's a whole commander

[iron frost]

ah ok, i forgot to say but her arthur rn has some investment , so shes only needing 36 tickets to expertise with khan swap

does that change stuff?

[rose narwhal]

How much is Arthur at?

Skill level wise

[iron frost]

5211

[rose narwhal]

Hmm

[subtle beacon]

does this game require much skill?

[rose narwhal]

Do the math beforehand, I think she only needs to spend 20€ to swap a max commander if she also swaps Arthur

See how many tickets u need and whether she's willing to spend that money

Keep in mind the swap bundle doesn't escalate, it's 5$ every time, doesn't go up

[iron frost]

okay, and so she would be swapping nevsky for achilles?

[rose narwhal]

Requires time and/or money

[subtle beacon]

oh dang-

[iron frost]

and keeping joan?

[rose narwhal]

Sure yeah

She's the most useful one out of the 3 she currently has

[iron frost]

if she also has a 5551 william does that change anything ?

[rose narwhal]

A bit

Well not really Actually

Thing is you can do Arthur/William or Joan Arthur if Achilles is paired with GG and you desperately need a pair for Arthur

But for one single combo march it doesn't no

[iron frost]

ah okay

yeah i think she'd only be able to do 1 single march , no gg rn either

[rose narwhal]

Then do Arthur Achilles, if she can spend then swap Khan for Arthur, spend for the tickets and swap Nevsky for Achilles and keep Joan for the future just in case

If she's not willing to spend that complicates things more

So I hope she is

It's the most value she'll get out of anything in a while tbh

[iron frost]

ahh okay ty

[subtle beacon]

whats the first thing i shud do with my chinese civilisation

[iron frost]

also last question 🥺 sorry, but what would be the 2 best cav marches out rn? like that everyone runs?

[rose narwhal]

Hmmm

GG Achilles for sure but I'm torn for the second

Assuming u wanna work on delta you'd do Arthur William for 2 delta

Or Arthur Philip assuming Philip isn't elsewhere

That's why I said William changed things a bit but not really for one single march, pretty sure William is there for stats mostly

[iron frost]

ooo

[short oasis]

hello sporkz

[rose narwhal]

Watching a starting guide cause it's much easier than writing the fundamental things of the game and YouTubers usually mash everything up finely enough

[rose narwhal]

[short oasis]

new status just dropped check it

[rose narwhal]

🥀

[subtle beacon]

any recommendations for the video or do are msot videos good?

[rose narwhal]

I believe 12inch is the most recommended one

[short oasis]

had a salami sandwich today

nice inspiration

[rose narwhal]

[crimson mural]

What is the difference between the battle phase ending and kvk ending? one is 2 days, other is 4 days remaining

[mental walrus]

Timer uptop signals when you stop getting progress towards path of greatness, and at some point rss nodes and barbs and forts will stop spawning. Date down below signals when you will be sent back to home kingdom if you haven’t done it already

[crimson mural]

I see, so for getting the achievements I only have 2 days left, right?

[mental walrus]

Theoretically the losing team of the LK can still fight back to capture temple until top timer ends

[mental walrus]

Yes

[crimson mural]

perfect, that helped a lot. Thank you!

[iron frost]

i quit the game at the same time(2023) as my friend & coming back, they have the commander swap event but it doesnt show up for me, only for my farm account, ? did i do something wrong?

[mental walrus]

Means you logged on to your account before already, showed up and is now gone

[iron frost]

damn

[mental walrus]

Maybe you can ask support but it’s not a guarantee

[iron frost]

like in 2024?

i dont remember logging on recently at all

[mental walrus]

I don’t remember when we first got it

[iron frost]

ahh

[mental walrus]

Try asking support

Not much else to do other than that

[iron frost]

thats what i figured, dang, thank you 🙏

[indigo raven]

@rose narwhal hey i have a question

[thick silo]

How do I join an alliance in a certain area

[mighty viper]

Contact the R4s/R5

[rose narwhal]

[indigo raven]

i have a crush on someone

but i dont know how to tell him

[rose narwhal]

[rose narwhal]

silly beba come DM

[high linden]

retired?

didnt u just buy an account

[rose narwhal]

No?

[high linden]

what

[rose narwhal]

What what

[high linden]

i might be misremembering

[rose narwhal]

Probably

[high linden]

ur the wrong spark

mb

[rose narwhal]

[thorny falcon]

is greatest glory of anyuse for cava march?

[ocean coral]

I am once again asking when smithy sirs

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[twin current]

Question I have 4 gold inscriptions for wedge 1, the march is archer (QSG/Zhuge) now I have 30 conversations stones. Now should I swap to wedge 2 and if so which of the 4 inscriptions should I switch to. I can switch up to 3.

[warped heart]

Around april

[crystal sandal]

Does Normal Damage (Skill Tree) have an impact on QSH?

[karmic harbor]

Hi, I’m in prep phase, wondering when tickets will be unlocked for wheel of fortune ( bundles to spin the wheel) rn we can only spin with gems

[lost matrix]

my research building is showing research even though im upgrading it, does this mean i can research while upgrading the building? idk where to research during upgrade at all

[mighty viper]

I believe that’s only in SOC (KVK4+)

[karmic harbor]

Ok thanks

[lost matrix]

@mighty viperhello, is this right

[mighty viper]

You can’t do two things with a building at one time

[lost matrix]

ohh ok

[karmic harbor]

Because I heard people saying tickets will be available once we leave prep phase so basically at the beginning of S1 , just wanted to fact check that

[mighty viper]

I’m not sure exactly it’s been over a year since I’ve done KVK1

[karmic harbor]

And like 7 years in my case so I’m lost with all the new features lol

[mighty viper]

Yeah lol I get it. It doesn’t help that many of these changes where shadow drops

[dreamy plinth]

Kvk 1 doesn’t have tickets on wheels

I’ve heard kvk 2 has it but we haven’t gotten to that quite yet

[tepid oracle]

This game. Even when not open is draining my battery so much. Any fix?

Maybe disable notification?

[lost matrix]

does siege troops increase fortress build time? or infantry better?

[warped heart]

Idk disable app background?

[warped heart]

All troop types are equal

When building a flag

[lost matrix]

ohh same with fortress?

[warped heart]

Yes

[stable flame]

Does ap rune mean U regenerate ap faster or recover a portion of Ur spent ap

[manic chasm]

faster

[mighty viper]

There’s not much of a difference but it’s better to put fighting troops

[wanton venture]

yoyo

what is the window for same season migration kvk 2

how many days

cross is 80

[delicate lion]

Is it possible to check the server's operating hours?

[fringe sable]

A new kingdom launch time isn't fixed

[delicate lion]

Oh okay, thanks

[lost matrix]

should i spend all these on sun tzu?

[fringe sable]

Yeah it's sun>baibars(if doing cav)>matilda>joan>etc.

[crystal sandal]

Does Normal Damage (Skill Tree) have an impact on QSH?

[fringe sable]

On his skill damage ?

[tiny shadow]

I have qeustion I recently returned to the game and for cav march I have Nevsky expertise Joan 5515 and Arthur 5551 and what can I do with that?

No acces to Achilles

Why?

[fringe sable]

You can run Arthur/joan until you get your hands on Achilles

Sry joan/arthur

[tiny shadow]

Who is primary?

Oh okay and also is Achilles a mge or wheel?

[fringe sable]

Joan

[tiny shadow]

Should I expertise Joan or leave her 5515?

[fringe sable]

He is only in Tavern rn

[fringe sable]

Leave her

[tiny shadow]

Tavern?

What’s that

[fringe sable]

Where you open chests

[tiny shadow]

Oh so it’s just pure luck

To get him

[fringe sable]

@tiny shadow I don't remember what keys were they

You can get Achilles from legendary tavern

He's only available there for now

[lost matrix]

what is best for f2p

[fringe sable]

All this is the sequence you should follow

[lost matrix]

baibars is 2nd i should aim after sun tzu?

[fringe sable]

If you are a cav main

[lost matrix]

oh is cav f2p friendly

[fringe sable]

Yeah inf or cav your choice

[lost matrix]

oh i already started sun tzu at lvl 3111 atm

[fringe sable]

Sun is the best epic in the game

So you can go with it

Also you will get sun sculptures from main quests and path of vengeance if you have choosen china as your civilization

[lost matrix]

who best pair?

[fringe sable]

See the commander guide in pins

Also read the starter guide too

[crystal sandal]

well on his impact in a fight

[fringe sable]

Normal damage bonus obviously will increase his normal damage but if you asking about the impact on the skill damage it don't have any direct effect

Skill damage is only affected by skill damage bonuses and boosts

[heavy bolt]

How much advantage does countering a troop type give

[fringe sable]

5%

Troop advantage

[crystal sandal]

Well my question is very simple, does Normal Damage increase QSH Performance / Impact / Anything Posetive about him? If he only does Skill Damage (no white numbers) it clearly does not have any effect on him?

[fringe sable]

He does normal damage (white damage) so yeah it will have impact on him

[cunning oar]

affects his counter attack

[fringe sable]

Normal damage = basic attack damage + counterattack damage

[cunning oar]

he dont get much use on basic attack part, since he convert the basic dmg factor

[lost matrix]

is spending all gems to get vip 6 top priority?

[weary flame]

Is it a bad idea to switch troop types from k2 to k3

[weary flame]

Yes

[weary flame]

(Like inf to archer)

[stable flame]

if ur gear is mainly on inf and u wanna switch to archer

i would say

yes

[lost matrix]

should i use my rss to buy all these corn (rrs)?

[stable flame]

its a bad idera

[weary flame]

Not rn

[weary flame]

But qsh is so broken

[lost matrix]

ohh just buy all when its few hours left?

[stable flame]

yea but u have no gear

[weary flame]

Wait until you’re rss is more stable

[stable flame]

max out the mats

[weary flame]

But if i just don’t get a lot of epic inf stuff

I’m pre war k1 lol

Theoretical planning

[stable flame]

[fringe sable]

That's too much time lol play normally rn

[weary flame]

But is it like realistic to do 🤔

[terse mason]

Stick to one troop type lmao

It's not realistic at all

[weary flame]

Okok

[terse mason]

Also eventually you'll get all troop types anyways

[weary flame]

But inf suck to play against qsh

[terse mason]

Qin will get powercrept eventually

[torn egret]

do dream tickets expire?

[weary flame]

I don’t believe you

[terse mason]

So js stick to one troop type and call it a day

[terse mason]

There was a time when nevsky joan was the qin

[weary flame]

[fringe sable]

You are in kvk 1 bro it's like a year of time to get to QSH and until then meta will flip a thousand more times

[terse mason]

Yep

Ppls who only go archer early game cuz qin is gud rn are kinda dumb tbh

[weary flame]

Yes im so excited for the new archer and leadership to powercreep qsh

[fringe sable]

Maybe or maybe not

[weary flame]

(The point is: inf isn’t going to feel any better)

[terse mason]

Meh when yu reach soc there will likely be new infs

[weary flame]

Swap event tho

[terse mason]

Don't jump on the qin hype train lmao

Tas the point

[fringe sable]

For now I can just say enjoy your kvk 1 and kvk 2

Maybe you will eventually leave the game because of power creep until then

[weary flame]

I’m kinda just hoping next cavs make qsh unplayable

[lost matrix]

whats that

[fringe sable]

Cavs

They are 90% hopeless

[weary flame]

Let me cope

[tardy garnet]

How many conquest coins do you gain if you lose/win kvk

[terse mason]

Depends on wat yu get as a camp

And wat yu manage to do

[tardy garnet]

What the minimum and what's the maximum

Cuz I'm still in kvk3 but I'm curious for upcoming soc

[stable flame]

if i cant 5511 thutmose is does el cid work?

heard hes very squishy but deals tons of damage

[vestal wigeon]

Ready

[weary flame]

Wrong chat ?

[bronze otter]

Best marches in game rn?

[stable flame]

qsh zl

[bronze otter]

Okay

And what’s a second march maybe

[stable flame]

stp baiqi

or arthur achilles

why dont people do gear like this

also whens equipment reset and can i trade it for another legendary equipment?

[icy reef]

do pre soc even get the event?

[fringe sable]

El Cid nah not at all he's a whale option first of all he's all single target and second yeah he's squishy

[fringe sable]

It's a SOC exclusive event

[fringe sable]

And both are the meta set here what's the problem?

[crystal sandal]

Would you say the 1.5% Normal Damage in talent tree is not worth it for QSH?

[stable flame]

Should I make the switch to inf majority of my mats is meant for cav(70+ legendary leather)

but people say cav is very weak rn

[fringe sable]

Yeah 1.5% don't make much difference

[lost matrix]

is it good to spend speedups on my townhall while day 3-5 is still locked?

[fringe sable]

No it's not worth it

70+ legendary is not a small amount

[stable flame]

Yea def

but cuz I've been debating for a long time and since how many players have been saying cav is ass rn i was tempted

[fringe sable]

The problem with cav is only they are squishy and have high march speed which usually make them go further into the ball and get vanished

But if you have one march it's not a problem

Just be attentive while playing

[stable flame]

Is the 4 legendary mats bundle worth buying

I feel like it's more worth than the 10 gh ones

[fringe sable]

Yeah it is

Vanquisher right ?

[stable flame]

I have a bad memory of names

[native dust]

I'm planning to give this game a try, but I have a full time job and other commitments.. I would probably buy some packs like daily benefit packs etc usually present in other games as well but not heavy p2w.. how many hours of daily grind does this game require for a new player? Wanna understand if I can actually do it

I also read that alliances kick you and noone takes you in their alliance if you're not playin this game as a job cz I cant put in endless hours

[warped heart]

Alliance kicks you if your low power or didn't met the power requirement and they can be very strict with their actions as they want to be the best

[native dust]

that being said how much hours do you think a new player will have to grind in this game to be relevant?

[thorny falcon]

can anyone help me - please name the best 3 cav marches? im working on this gangchan atm, returning after 1 year

[warped heart]

Usually depends, I'd say on average 6 - 8 hours

[native dust]

per day?

[fringe sable]

What commanders you have

[native dust]

damn yea that's a 2nd job right there

[thorny falcon]

Also is it a wise idea to work with 2nd combo march?

[warped heart]

Gg Achilles, Arthur Philip, huo joan

Best to worst

[thorny falcon]

i have 3 marches, arhtur-will, gg (working)- no achilles and huo-joan

[warped heart]

Depends on your alliance

[warped heart]

Arthur will can work

[thorny falcon]

is it a wise idea to work on a second combo march?

i mean shift a hunter to thrasher?

i saw there was some wedge two formation

[fringe sable]

It's for skill damage btw

[warped heart]

Yes

Combo is the meta for Cavs

Them lilith devs will eventually abandon skill damage for Cavs

[fringe sable]

If you have other meta marches too so yeah

Which I don't think will be the case

[native dust]

what if all I can do is 1-2 hours a day max.. I guess my progress would be extremely slow

[warped heart]

Unless lilith pull a big middle finger and fuck us over and reveal a big skill damage factor in new Cav

[fringe sable]

[fringe sable]

You can play your game peacefully like that

Just won't be better for long term

[warped heart]

Usually I'd do 6 - 8 hours in first week to immediately upgrade buildings and research through alliance helps then 2nd week depends much around 3 - 6hours for farming for buildings

[thorny falcon]

So i can use 10 stones right?

[warped heart]

Yes

[native dust]

yea but then alliances kick me out cz I cant put in the time and then I'm just a solo in a server with alliances who'll keep attacking me draining me out ig

[thorny falcon]

im converting a hunter then, sorry for so many questions but i saw people raging in yt that 800 $ are needed for wedge 2 and that it gives a whopping 25% boost on wedge 1

[warped heart]

Well part of it is true

Like 70% of it

[native dust]

any other game in this category which is not that heavy on being in an alliance, like just be in a clan but mostly solo play

[thorny falcon]

whats the false part?

please dont tell me combo 2 is coming

[fringe sable]

Join a lower alliance cuz that's not the problem there but as cat said you can give extra time in the start to get yourself at good place and then just reduce it week by week

[warped heart]

You can get more conversion stones from kvk which is actually less than 800$ and there's an option to spend 10k gems for stones too but that I can't confirm if it's worth it during mtg or not

[native dust]

also I created one account today but i noticed a new kingdom opens tomorrow... how many characters can I have in like my main accuont?

[fringe sable]

But you need more money in games like that

[warped heart]

2 characters per kingdom

[warped heart]

Idk, rok?

[warped heart]

Right combo 2 and delta 2 are in the works

[thorny falcon]

WHAT

bruh

[fringe sable]

Lilith

[native dust]

ok.. and you guys playing this from quite some time might also have like multiple farming accounts right? so farming accounts are mandatory in the game to progress?

[thorny falcon]

i dont wanna waste 10 stones then?

wait it out?

[fringe sable]

If you spending less than $500 a month then yeah

[native dust]

okay so lets say kingdom starts tomorrow then I need to have 2 characters created in that kingdom from day 1 and like keep switching and progressing

[warped heart]

Mandatory for early game cause buildings cost alot of rss
But this also takes a huge chunk of your part trying to maintain a farm account as you need to put out your gathering march now and then, while also need to level up gatherers to a minimum level to gather efficiently

Also mandatory for late game for T5

[warped heart]

Idk, combo 2 will come out next year ig

[fringe sable]

It was the case before that you can migrate one city to another kingdom by migration but now it's removed (before kvk1) so if you need more farms you will need multiple accounts

[thorny falcon]

combo and delta are the same right?

[warped heart]

Yeah

Delta 2 and pincer 2 are coming I mean

[thorny falcon]

Thats in 027 right? Not in 2026

ill just change the armament then?

[warped heart]

Yeah, there's no specific date but they explicitly said they're gonna release new generation of skill damage, combo and smite formations for every 18 months after release

[stoic anvil]

Why is there no daily objective that has to do with the state forum? It makes most sense it's something you have to do daily anyways perhaps a good QoL update in future with this could happen

[austere drum]

why? because it’s not needed

[bitter osprey]

What are the best chaning comanders

[split heath]

hello , does this inscription have like terrible uptime on qsh or a great one? i cant really tell how often he cast skills

[tiny shadow]

Talent tree for Arthur? As secondary to Joan?

Also a talen tree for Joan?

[indigo raven]

You dont need talent tree for secondary

[tiny shadow]

Oh

Maybe one for Joan then? Idk haven’t played in long time

[cunning oar]

maybe this

[glass turtle]

Damn i see

[ebon vessel]

is the lilith rise of kingdoms forum, where you could get the city layouts, down?

:(

[iron frost]

what skills should i prioritize for qsh? or expertise?

[small pebble]

yeah idk if i can keep such good pace up XD taking waay to much time

how much better will my trades be if i go for alex 5/5/5/1 ysg pair instead of sun tzu ysg ? because if they are not that much better i will spend the gems in vip since vip 14 15 is rly important from what i heard

[mental walrus]

Don’t

[stable flame]

Not much better

In fact its worse than st

[stable flame]

js get VIP 14/15

[small pebble]

oke i just go for vip thanks

[remote mauve]

Question guys! About migration thing, for example i migrated from 44 to 49 . then after the 30 day cooldown i decide to migrate to 54. is it still possible? Thanks for the replies 🥰

[rose narwhal]

Depends on whether 44 and 54 are within 10 days or not

[tiny shadow]

Question is equipment for secondary very important?

[rose narwhal]

Equipment for secondary commander as well as talents have no effects

[remote mauve]

Yes its within 10 days

[rose narwhal]

In said case you should be fine

The migration requirement for pre kvk 1 before the last update is that both kingdoms (starting and target kingdoms) can't be more than 10 days apart

[remote mauve]

so?

should be fine?

[rose narwhal]

If both kingdoms aren't more than 10 days apart sure

Y said they're not so I'll take your word for it and say you should be fine

[remote mauve]

oh wait. 44 and 54 are more than 10 days apart

[terse mason]

Then rip

[rose narwhal]

Then nope

[remote mauve]

Oh.. thats sad them.. when will i be able to migrate there then? after pre kvk?

[rose narwhal]

After kvk 1

[remote mauve]

ohh. i see. Got it ! thanks for the replies 😁😁

[rose narwhal]

[green cloud]

does leveling secondary commanders past 30 (4 stars) matter?7

Also should I be farming altars with multiple marches at once

[lean matrix]

No, not if they’re going to stay secondary

[sinful fox]

hello! Does Rok have any public or paid API?

[fringe sable]

No if you can get the secondary to 4 stars on just lvl 10

And about altars by more marches you will get extra exp for your marches but not mandatory if you just focus on your main march that's fine too

[green cloud]

how is that possible? i wasted so much xp getting them to lvl 30

[fringe sable]

Omniarch has a short on this one check it out

You do 4 stars one be one until you get second star 80% then you use 4 big and 2 mid stars if you get lucky you get 4 stars

[green cloud]

ok i remember now, I did not get lucky 💀

[fringe sable]

Then go to lvl 30 lol

At least can get 3 stars btw

[sterile coral]

What do I do when I dont have enough space for new building?

[fringe sable]

Deforestation

[mighty viper]

Remove some trees

[sterile coral]

How do I do that? Sorry, first day 🙂

[fringe sable]

Click on tree there will be a stash button

[sterile coral]

got it thanks

[unique canopy]

Hi, is equipment on the secondary commander of a march useful, or is there no need to equip it?

[mighty viper]

Only primary commanders use gear

[unique canopy]

Ok thanks

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[humble knoll]

Are there still working codes for new kingdom?

[mighty viper]

See #💻〡redeem․codes

[split heath]

Does any1 knows when soc commanders come to wheel after kvk 2 ends?

[mighty viper]

In season 3, like after LK opens

[split heath]

thx

And who is ''better'' in open field
arthur achilles
gg achilles?

[fringe sable]

Arthur Achilles there are some who favour gg Achilles but gg is a bit old and will be out of meta when new cavs comes

[clear moss]

I need some advice, would it be more beneficial for me to repeat kvk 4 but in an A seed or to migrate to an older kingdom but it’s a D seed?

[fringe sable]

Depends on your spendings, marches and no. of farms

[clear moss]

I have one full cav set with arthur Achilles and one mix purple/legendary for qin ysg so realistically only 1 working march against them, I just have no idea on how D seed soc kvk are like

4 farms rn

[heavy bolt]

i need an opinion. I currently have 100 gh, 100k gems and ysg wheel is soon. My thutmose is 5535. Should i just expert thutmose and max spin ysg or should i 100 spin ysg, put my gh there and save 40k gems for something else

[fringe sable]

D is a bit dull if you looking to have some fighting fun in game

Repeating is upto you if you wish you can do it

[mighty viper]

Both YSG and Thut are really only good if they’re expertise

[clear moss]

What would u do if u were in my situation

[fringe sable]

But if want to countinue go to B or C that's much better option here

[clear moss]

The only available kds for my window are A and a few B

[fringe sable]

Honestly I'm not a fan of repeating

If i were you I would've gone to SOC in a low B seed seeing the condition of your marches

Just need a bit more farms there

[clear moss]

I gotcha so u think soc D seed would be better than repeat kvk 4 in a B?

[manic chasm]

[heavy bolt]

so go for exp thutmose?

[mighty viper]

Tbh most kingdoms claiming to be D seed just aren’t

[fringe sable]

Also here your archer is considered working cuz QSH works really good even with epics and legendary

[mighty viper]

Probably not. You’d have no pair for him

[fringe sable]

D seeds fights are too much short you will not get much opportunities to gain kp

[glass turtle]

Yea mine beaten sun tzu prime

But i was in alliance opponent wasnt

[glass turtle]

C seed is best bro

[heavy bolt]

would 5xx5 ysg be enough? or 5511 cid?

[fringe sable]

Depends on his armaments and equipment too

[glass turtle]

Yes

[mighty viper]

No and no

[heavy bolt]

uh what about sun

[mighty viper]

You’d be better off using a commander that’s not Thut

[heavy bolt]

so bench my only march

[glass turtle]

[fringe sable]

Barca

[mighty viper]

Yes because you didn’t actually build a march

[glass turtle]

[heavy bolt]

thut sun not viable or sum

thut ksuo

[glass turtle]

Nope

[mighty viper]

That’s even worse

[heavy bolt]

thut aeth

[mighty viper]

Get the idea of an archer march out of your head

[fringe sable]

[glass turtle]

[heavy bolt]

so what am i supposed to do

[mighty viper]

Probably restart

[glass turtle]

Screenshot commanders

Let me see

[fringe sable]

Are you spending $1000 a month ?

[glass turtle]

Screenshot what commanders you have ans equipment

[fringe sable]

If no so leave thut

[glass turtle]

[heavy bolt]

no

[fringe sable]

Damnnn thut is well fed

[mighty viper]

Then (Pre-SOC) archers are not for you

[glass turtle]

I mean

Thut is good

Other is crap

[heavy bolt]

ok im in prekvk rn if that helps

[glass turtle]

Spend money and get proper duo for thut

[fringe sable]

I'm thinking where he got these many stars to 6 star 3 legendary

[glass turtle]

Fr

[heavy bolt]

i buy all wot

[heavy bolt]

even if i do i cant exp ysg tho

[glass turtle]

Then buy proper duo for thut

[heavy bolt]

and plus what is a proper duo other than ysg

[glass turtle]

Nothing

[mighty viper]

There is none

[fringe sable]

If you can then it's fine cuz now you have done it

[glass turtle]

Thut and ysg are only good duo for archer

Before soc

[manic chasm]

before kvk 3

[glass turtle]

Yea i meant that

[heavy bolt]

is non exp ysg really that bad

maybe my tech can make up for it

[glass turtle]

Exp him

U have nothing to lose

Then by the time you will get commander swap you can swap to meta archers probably

Cause new archer release in april-may

[mighty viper]

Yes because only his exp skill has circle AOE

[fringe sable]

Exp YSG has increase damage factor and a circular AOE if not exp atleast get him to 5515 before kvk 1

[glass turtle]

Wait wait

Which kvk is he in

[fringe sable]

Prep

[mighty viper]

Pre-KVK1

[glass turtle]

Ohhh

I see now

[heavy bolt]

no way my stuff is that bad😭

[fringe sable]

He's spend much I can see too

[glass turtle]

Dude exp ysg

You got money

And stop crying

[fringe sable]

You could've got much better value for that money that's the thing

[mighty viper]

Spend the money to max them both out

[heavy bolt]

ok im not even a whale

im 18 mil power

[glass turtle]

Okay then become one

[fringe sable]

Spendings?

[mighty viper]

So become one

[heavy bolt]

like $500

total

[glass turtle]

[fringe sable]

Spend that in a month only that can you keep up

From now on

[glass turtle]

[heavy bolt]

why you guys acting like im some rich dude

[glass turtle]

Become one

Overcome your fear

[rancid rivet]

Which commander should I get from gathering of commanders? I already got Arthur and will get Huo stage 2 but I need another commander from stage 1

[glass turtle]

[mighty viper]

Because you decided to pick commanders like some rich dude?

[fringe sable]

$500 spending without any consultation that's why

[glass turtle]

Is achilless in it?

[rancid rivet]

Yah stage 3 but I don’t have the ressources to reach stage 3

[glass turtle]

Get achilless and keep huo out of your brain

[heavy bolt]

i cant be restart territory can i

[glass turtle]

Huo is dead

[mighty viper]

Most people aren’t familiar enough with what commanders are in what stages. It would help if you shared who is available

[glass turtle]

Yea exactly

[mighty viper]

You are

[glass turtle]

Ganggcham should be ok i think too

[rancid rivet]

Can I get Achilles later from wheel of fortune or something? I definitely can’t reach level 3

[glass turtle]

Since he is combo

[mighty viper]

Look at other troop types for level 1, like an inf or archer commander

[fringe sable]

Legendary tavern

Only

[crimson mural]

How many times can you skip a Soc matchmaking?

[mighty viper]

1

[glass turtle]

Yea archers especially now

[rancid rivet]

So Huo for stage 2 is like a bad option or he is alright?

[glass turtle]

But tho idk if he has equip for it

[crimson mural]

that means, about 3-4 months break from kvk?

[mighty viper]

Bad

[fringe sable]

Huo overall is bad option

[glass turtle]

He is kinda dead so bad

[rancid rivet]

My archer march is extremely bad though I was thinking of getting infantery from stage 1

[glass turtle]

Get gangcham

[mighty viper]

Take that to #☕〡general

[rancid rivet]

So should I get another cavalery from stage 2?

[glass turtle]

No

Get gamgcham

[mighty viper]

No

[fringe sable]

He's old bro 😭 he will be dead after new cav release

[glass turtle]

Old?

[rancid rivet]

Ooh ok

[glass turtle]

Wasnt he released like achilless?

[rancid rivet]

So no one from stage 2?

[mighty viper]

Not for cav