❓〡questions

[woven pike]

I just used gems and didnt get them

After restart also

[rose narwhal]

Cooked lol yeah should throw it in bugs

[woven pike]

I will reeinstall maybe

[woven pike]

I reinstalled and IT works 🙂

[rugged turtle]

How do I switch my purchasing method from Lilith store to the other option? My bank won’t allow world wide transactions automatically and I can’t text them to allow since it’s Sunday

[naive valve]

Is the 10 day sleeper strat removed can we really not migrate anymore?

[mighty viper]

Not yet, but it might be

[zealous coyote]

is this the best placement for a flag? would it be better if the flag were constructed a bit more south so we get more land?

[mighty viper]

Best is subjective and dependent on many different factors

[warped heart]

Flag is flag

[zealous coyote]

i see....but the overlap is not a huge deal then?

[mighty viper]

It depends

[high linden]

is it possible to play on two account on the same gmail? cuz rn i have 3 devices, computer, phone, and tablet. the computer loads onto my main account, but whenever i try to log into my farm via tablet and/or phone, it disconnects the other one

[mighty viper]

Not without using a third party emulator

[rose narwhal]

If you log in on your main in PC and on your farm in phone it should be fine

[high linden]

so cant log in with tablet as well?

cuz the phone and tablet seem to be linked by some force 😭

[onyx raptor]

Which is better BQ+LC or Sun Tzu Prime+BQ?

[rose narwhal]

yeah u cant log in both of them in diff accounts for sm reason

but pc and phone/tablet are separate i guess

u know what u can do even tho its tedious af

log in the pc and in the tablet, switch to the only character thats not online and at the same time u log into the other account u log in normall with your phone

your pc will be in 1 character, tablet on another one and phone omn another one

[high linden]

i tried to do that but the tablet and phone seem to be connected, i change from one character to another and the other device follows suit

[high linden]

stp bq

[rugged turtle]

Is there an equipment guide for kvk1? I’ve been looking on YouTube for one and can’t find one.

Just need best set for inf to put on my sun

[high linden]

check pins in #🌟〡gear

[rose narwhal]

u have to log in and switch at the same time on both devices

[high linden]

before i get to the switch page it kicks me out of the other device 💔

[cunning oar]

i think there is just '2 vers' the mob and the pc one
cell and tablet use the same one, so sont think you can use they at same time
atleast i never could(even tho trying harf)

[little cobalt]

What's the difference between an A seed kingdom and a D seed kingdom?

[mighty viper]

Power and activity mostly, but there’s no official way to measure or check a kingdom’s seed

[foggy silo]

Best city garrison against swarm? I have Eleonora, Zizka, hera and martel

[high linden]

martel and hera ig, they're the only ones who can somewhat do okayish against a swarm

[wooden patrol]

So until the last moment I should wait

[cedar terrace]

Guys I’m pretty new to the game, my alliance is in victoria but I’m placed in a different kingdom, how do I change so I can be close to them?

[winged bough]

Like a positive diff or negative ?

[cunning oar]

Baibars aoe should be better overall

[winged bough]

Well yeah in murderball it should be better

[mighty viper]

You use a teleport

[mental walrus]

On paper baibars should be better but fourth skill for Mina is better for field and hes less likely to be targeted, though this doesn’t matter nearly as much

[cunning oar]

purple plage is real

find his 4th be better on support side, and baibars aoe on kp side

[mental walrus]

Whale see purple = target tbh

[winged bough]

Thing is im running thut/ysg as 1st march, but I think I could get a 2nd march, but idk which one tbh

[cedar terrace]

What kind cuz it tells me that I gotta occupy all passes along the way

[mental walrus]

Mina sun shouldbe fine assuming Mina is expert

[mighty viper]

Alliance teleport, you need to teleport to your alliance territory

[winged bough]

I dont really wanna spend another 150 for expertise tbh

For another 5 bucks I can have 5511 mina

[mental walrus]

Try that or baibars and see who’s better

[radiant perch]

baibars has no damage decrease across each target in aoe

[mental walrus]

Uhm

[abstract hazel]

Anyone have the time each HDV take ?

[winged bough]

neither does sun

[radiant perch]

woah i did not know that

i say baibars still if its up too a vote

[mental walrus]

Yeah no

[glass turtle]

ANYONE THERE

I have those two

Should i focus accessories legendary or finish set for qsh first

I mean gloves and boots

[radiant perch]

idk

i have a question what is the difference between arch and pincer

ik p[incer is better but how much betetr

[high linden]

very much better

[radiant perch]

like 4% stats

[high linden]

get qsh glove and boots then work on accessories i believe but if ur kvk u can just go for arthur accessories first if u can get the bp

[high linden]

no

if used on a smite commander its much more better than using arch

[radiant perch]

ok but its 5% stats for the active skill and 5% less for base attack i get active skill is more important but it cant be more than 5% better

im so confused

[glass turtle]

But i am in soc and i dont have any gold accessory made yet

I am c seed

[radiant perch]

thx

[high linden]

no need to go into allat just think pincer > arch

[high linden]

do u have the bp?

[glass turtle]

What is bp

[radiant perch]

blueprint

[glass turtle]

I do have blueprint for accessories

Ring and horn

But not for gloves and boots

[glass turtle]

[high linden]

then accessories first ig

[glass turtle]

Okay

[worn mango]

is belisarius a good peacekeeper for my farm accs that dont have lohar

[glass turtle]

Sure

[bold oak]

Anyone knows how many sculptures each rank in mge gets? I know for top 3 its 180,90,60 i think but what is it after that?

[mighty viper]

@bold oak ^

[bold oak]

Ty

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[fickle glen]

Can you report someone for using script to control 50 some account in kvk

[mighty viper]

Contact support in game

[fickle glen]

No response

[mighty viper]

That in itself is a response

[fickle glen]

It requires id from each account

That is so unbalanced

[mighty viper]

Yeah i agree but it’s not like there’s anyone here who can do anything

[arctic saffron]

I think the more i spend the better i am

[mighty viper]

To an extent yes, this game is P2W

[bold oak]

When i apply to an inactive alliance (offline r5) will i get auto accept and get alliance ownership after some time?

[small spade]

im ftp and new do I get sun tzu to lvl 60 and then level up more commanders to lvl 30 and above
or do i stop sooner
i have lvl 42 sun 30 lohar 25 double c n lvl 25 joan

[mighty viper]

Sun to 60 gathering commanders to 37

[small spade]

why specifically 37
also thanks

[white tapir]

That's all you need to max gathering tree

[small spade]

ah ty

[mighty viper]

The minimum number to get the full gathering tree

[dreamy seal]

Hi, I would like to ask if I can fight with this in KVK?

[mighty viper]

No, you are restricted to Z4

[minor obsidian]

What happens if you migrate with a full hospital with kvk buffs into a kingdom in off season?

Do the troops die or?

[mighty viper]

Troops die if the number of wounded exceeds the hospital capacity

[minor obsidian]

Alr

[dreamy seal]

And how can i get it off?

[mighty viper]

You can’t, not until after KVK

[dreamy seal]

Okay, Thank you

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[mossy arrow]

The new migration rule applies for all kingdoms or just new kingdoms(the preparation season part)?

[azure pagoda]

My phone get hot and accidently bought ap for all my gems. Will support refund it or im done?

[small spade]

as a ftp what wheels should I go for (im new second week)

[velvet hedge]

can i send like 1 troop to eid tent and will it affect the rewards i get because im in war rn

[rose narwhal]

How on earth does this even fucking happen 😭

I guess u could ask but I do not think they will be of much help

[rose narwhal]

Non for now maybe Richard but depends

[rose narwhal]

I guess so

[sharp marsh]

Richard, is he any good past kvk 1?

I’m low spender for the most part

[rose narwhal]

Only for chaining

[tranquil scaffold]

MTG when?

[white tapir]

this weekend

[warped heart]

Son🥀

[dawn isle]

Any tips on how to get faster materials, other than chaining

[dawn isle]

💀

Damn

[small spade]

like if i have enough gems
also YSG is instant yes right

[fickle ore]

Nothing rly

[dawn isle]

And is better to craft a second march gears or crit my entire main set

[fervent trout]

hello, how many different kinds of map layouts for home kingdom exist?

[torn egret]

second march

[mighty viper]

4

[fervent trout]

okii thx

[fringe sable]

It's only applies before kvk 1 for now

[rose narwhal]

should be new KDs only according to vip support, already spwaned ones remain unchanged apparently

[fringe sable]

Yeah they said KDs will be selected for the feature

[rose narwhal]

we'll see how that goes

[fringe sable]

for sure

Maybe they just want to test this feature in new kingdoms and then implement to the whole game

[rose narwhal]

i hope not

bro how silly would it be if they killed migration altogether lol

[fringe sable]

Yeah it will be lol 😂

[dawn otter]

should i roll the one with the inscription or keep the other one??

[obsidian zephyr]

should i spam all of my gem until vip 14? or save for event

[tawny drift]

imo you can get to vip 10 asap to get the free gh then slowly progress to vip 12 and 14 through mtg events

[torn egret]

9% defense or 5% health better

[obsidian zephyr]

chat my sun tzu is currently 4.5*, should i make it all the way to 5 or upgrade other purple commander

[mighty viper]

Max him out lol

[obsidian zephyr]

ok

[obsidian zephyr]

chat is pyrrhus > CM for infantry?

newbie

[hardy osprey]

What the best bundle I can buy with my limit of spending is $15 per month

[mighty viper]

Yes but also no, depends on how you use them

[white tapir]

Pyrrhus and CM are both good options, Pyrrhus has more use in kvk2, CM more use in KVK1. You'll swap either in the "commander swap" event

[obsidian zephyr]

if my sun tzu is lvl 40~, i should set him main instead of pyrr(30)?

[white tapir]

yes, always set a higher level commander to the primary

the level of the secondary doesn't matter also, as long as you have all skills unlocked

[obsidian zephyr]

oh

[white tapir]

the only thing from the secondary commander that does anything is the skills. The talents, equipment, level of secondary don't matter

[obsidian zephyr]

so should i lvl up him high

pyrr

or just enough for 4 skills to be unlocked

🤔

[white tapir]

just enough for the 4 skills for now, can level him higher later

trust me, in the long run you can easily get all commanders to 60. It's the skills which are hard to obtain

[obsidian zephyr]

oh ok

[fringe sable]

Collect 14000 until next week MTG coming

[obsidian zephyr]

whats mtg

bro i spent it all for vip

[fringe sable]

More than gems

What's gone is gone just remember to save them next time

[obsidian zephyr]

gg well done

🥹

[fringe sable]

More than gems event comes every 21 days

You get Gold heads for spending gems during that event

[fringe sable]

You have to spend those gems to VIP anyways but if you spend them during MTG it's more profitable

[obsidian zephyr]

ah

[white tapir]

it is an event coming this weekend which rewards you for spending gems

does artisan's forge come in kvk2

[fringe sable]

No, It's a SOC event

[white tapir]

I thought so

so there is no way to get iconic crystals other than achievements and lost canyon?

i really wanna complete the iconics

[terse mason]

Yes there is, sometimes events drop em

[white tapir]

ooh okay, I can be a hopeful hoper

[terse mason]

The best way to get em is still time tho

[white tapir]

tell that to the extra dead troops my kingdom mates get when joining my rallies

[terse mason]

[white tapir]

i need to be stronger! raaaaa

[terse mason]

Kraken

[white tapir]

not a kraken yet, just a whale for now

[terse mason]

[azure pagoda]

My game settings get resetted and somehow all my diamons are spent to action points... Will support help with it or i can stop playing?

[fringe sable]

You can try asking them about this but maybe they wouldn't be able to help much

Also try posting this in bug section

[azure pagoda]

Nvm. Ive checked answers now

Copy paste shit

[fringe sable]

Then you will have to restart

[azure pagoda]

Im just going to quit

[fringe sable]

Your choice 👍

[white tapir]

you can quit, but you're not very far in and can definitely restart with a new account if you wish

[azure pagoda]

I spent cash.

[white tapir]

oh that's pretty unfortunate, the support wasn't very helpful either

perhaps try again, and emphasize it was a glitch and not your actions

[azure pagoda]

Fuck that support and game. Thats copypaste shit

If they cant take 5minutes and do something Im not willimg soend my cash either.

They refunding speed ups other stuff but there no automatic refund for ap

[white tapir]

yeah that was not a good response from them, fair enough to quit

[mighty viper]

It’s literally just a computer program not a human lol. But go off queen

[azure pagoda]

So any chance I can refund it?

[mighty viper]

You might be able to refund your purchases, but according to the screenshot you can’t refund the gems used

[azure pagoda]

You can check refund options. You can refund basically everything. Im sure they got it in logs and can redo it

3 times per month u can refund speedup etc

[mighty viper]

🤷‍♂️

I don’t refund things like at all lol.

[azure pagoda]

Me 2. But imagine you logvto game. All setting are resetband u got no diamonds :/

[white tapir]

I didn't know you could refund speedups lol, why would you ever do that? if you spent universal speeds on siege training IG?

[plain gyro]

rip diamonds

[fringe sable]

Then the sieges will be vanished

But let's say you train sieges from zero with gems and then send them to gather if you refund in between what will happen

[white tapir]

that is a good question

[main pecan]

When does formations unlocks?

[white tapir]

kvk2

[fringe sable]

After kvk 1

[main pecan]

who is correct?

[fringe sable]

Both are same lol

After kvk 1 it's kvk 2

[white tapir]

kvk2 is after kvk1

[main pecan]

xD

[stable flame]

What's the official website to sell accs

For Asia

[warped heart]

There's none

Only available in US for the meantime

[stable flame]

I see

If I used my country digital paying app can I still request a refund from Google?

[terse mason]

No

[warped heart]

Gei

[warped heart]

Idk ask @terse mason

[terse mason]

How would ik

[cunning oar]

maybe reach on my region on next 10y

[terse mason]

[cunning oar]

being patient ig

[stable flame]

Would chatgpt know

[terse mason]

No

Chatgpt would tell yu to use mina cc field as f2p

[warped heart]

The only heklpful thing chatgpt said abt rok is using Richard ysg as an optimal pair to use in kvk2

[novel blaze]

[stable flame]

Then me n chatgpt have to be long lost siblings

[obsidian zephyr]

should i use caocao(main)-suntzu or suntzu(main)=caocao for barbarian rally

[terse mason]

None

If anything tho use cc primary

[obsidian zephyr]

whats cc

[cunning oar]

Cao Cao

[obsidian zephyr]

ok

[small spade]

should i save my keys (except gear ones)

[stable flame]

It doesn't really do anything

[crisp arrow]

I usually save my gold keys until last week of lucern if there or certain events like in kvk where you need to open 30keys or AM when i don't have a lot time

[stable flame]

unless we talking about sovereign keys so u can quickly fish the lucrene quest

[stuck parcel]

My Farm should run Forts, so what's better? Huo (5551) + Cao (5553) or Arthur (5111) ?

[stable flame]

huo cc

[fast niche]

will the accessory i create have a 100% chance critical, or will i need to create it twice for it to have a 100% chance?

[native sable]

Best barb fort for f2p early would be boudica CC

[stable flame]

If I'm in kvk 2 and I wanna enter a kingdom that just ended kvk 1 and about to enter kvk 2 is that possible?

[warped heart]

Your 5th horn will have a 100% chance to crit

[warped heart]

I think it's possible if your mid kvk2

[fast niche]

if i craft 1 now, will it become the 5? i didn't understand that

[warped heart]

Idk depends how many horns you crafted till now

[fast niche]

i dont remember

[warped heart]

In your image, when you craft the horn it'll be the 4th crafted horn, so in the next forge your horn will be crit

[fast niche]

are you sure? i only crafted this weapon 1, but it appears to be level 1, if what you're saying were true, wouldnt it be level 2?

[hasty sail]

which gear should get aethel for fort ?

[obsidian zephyr]

boudica, how much lvl do i need

[stable flame]

max

[stable flame]

anything tbh I don't even have gear for her myself

Also aeth is a terrible option for forts

forts deal increased damage as the fight goes on , U need nukes like caocao , mina , boudica

had egg 2days ago can I expect dig to happen 2 weeks later?

also if I wanna buy fluxes cheaper cant I use a VPN and connect to a country that has a weak exchange rate against us(me)

[obsidian zephyr]

boudica + CC still usable till mid game and later on for forts?

[restive nacelle]

Any restart project starting today?

[night dock]

any good restart projects starting soon

[dense lichen]

Can I turn on auto peacekeep after I moved the Troop from peacekeeping?

[dense lichen]

Empire of Flame is starting in June with whales and krakens

[wooden patrol]

Why boudica

I use lohar cc is that bad?

[night dock]

could u send me link pls

[fringe sable]

Cuz you can exp boudica but not cc

As a f2p

[wooden patrol]

What about lohar?

[fringe sable]

Best 👍 for chaining not forts lol

[native sable]

25% barb damage.
Lohar has 2 dead skill (+his expertise) in a fort rally scenario

[wooden patrol]

Oh Okok

[dense lichen]

Just say Empireofflames

Or check restart projects and check empire of flame

[wooden patrol]

If I have lvl 40 lohar and 30 boudica who should I use?

[native sable]

Boudica + whoever but not lohar

[manic chasm]

not the best times in rok to restart

[fringe sable]

The update will be only in selected continents

For now that is

[stuck parcel]

I'm also aiming for Barb-Chaining (on a small scale), so I'd like to choose a suitable AoE commander. Would Cao/Arthur be a good choice?

(Chaining with AOE on Forts)

[serene creek]

Boudica + cc do u think i can use inf gear and use infantry units for the forts

Lvl 7 on a farm

[lean matrix]

What’s the best event to spend tavern keys on?

Is that one event where you select multiple commanders better than the normal tavern?

[warped heart]

Ah am stupid, then your next horn would crit then

[rugged turtle]

How do I switch from buying in Lilith store to just an in game purchase?

[errant copper]

if a person leaves mid kvk, will that kvk count on their record?

[glass turtle]

Yo

Does this shi give me legendary inscription if i get assertive one day

?

[native sable]

Your sentence is unclear.
This thing allows you to slap "assertive" on any flag armament of the legendary rarity

[native sable]

In kvk4 with cristal tech, the regular tavern is better as it occurs day1, allowing you to rush lv5 of cristal quests day1

[mighty viper]

Perhaps but also the rewards you get are entirely random, you could use sov keys and just get resources or irrelevant commanders that have no real use to you

[lean matrix]

I’m in normal soc

[native sable]

Tbh heart desire only have Zhuge and LC as relevant commanders.

[mighty viper]

So therefore it’s better to just test your luck and collect random sculptures?

[native sable]

The 10 guaranted makes up for it imo.
But both are garbage if we look at it seriously. Whereas a big cristal intake early kvk will matter

[glass turtle]

How to do that

This means thah i will swap vitality for assertive?

Oh shit if thats true its useless

[rugged turtle]

Does anyone know how do I switch from buying in Lilith store to just an in game purchase?

[ripe frost]

Hello

So recently I was given a 85m account in soc in one of my friend's home kds to fight in their kvk for fun

I have no idea what I'm looking at, I don't know half of these guys

I don't need any help or have a question

I just wanted to state that I got a headache

And those beerbelly asian commanders slap

[rose narwhal]

[manic chasm]

power doesn’t matter, send equipment and commanders

[lean matrix]

😭

[fringe sable]

If this account we given to you for fun then have fun

[ripe frost]

.

Oh they got deleted

Ughhh I can't send them all

I can take this in dm

[clear moss]

Should I craft kvk weapon or horn first for my cav march, I have full legendary apart from the weapon and accessories

[manic chasm]

should i put 5% health/10% defense/10% attack city?

[manic chasm]

i need a tome

[manic chasm]

sure

[ripe frost]

Dmed ya

[glass turtle]

Btw

Tonight we get new gen of skill damage right?

[little cobalt]

Why my city won't show the Peerless Scholars when my City Hall is level 13? I'm in Kingdom 4056.

[manic chasm]

not available yet

[little cobalt]

what?

how do i get it?

[manic chasm]

simple, wait

[manic chasm]

@mighty viper

[mighty viper]

No clue

You aren’t giving much in the way of context

[manic chasm]

what should i give

[mighty viper]

What you’re using the march for, pairings, etc

[manic chasm]

qsh ysg

and what if i use for garrison (choe hera)? which one would be better

[mighty viper]

Better for what?

[manic chasm]

for playing

for better reports

[mighty viper]

I’m still not understanding what you are wanting

[manic chasm]

which city buff would be better

[glass turtle]

You mean which city theme?

For archers?

[mighty viper]

Why are you using city buffs?

[manic chasm]

yes

[manic chasm]

to get better reports

[glass turtle]

Defence one i think

Are you in soc?

[mighty viper]

Those are skins… and the way you worded your inquiry makes it seem like you want a city garrison

[manic chasm]

my health is the lowest, attack is the highest, if I use attack skin 10% ill get much more stats but ill lack health

[glass turtle]

Defence for sure

[manic chasm]

okay

also needs zmans opinion

[glass turtle]

@mighty viper

[mighty viper]

Defense is good, it depends on what you have

[glass turtle]

Yep

[manic chasm]

ok ty

[stiff raven]

Any restart projects?

[mighty viper]

#1250017171145359381

[edgy stratus]

Hello, ive heard that from kd 64 onwards, sleeper strategies are removed. Is that true?

[glass turtle]

TONIIIIGHT we get new gen of skill damageeeeee

[stiff raven]

Aight

[fringe sable]

Only some selected ones I think for now they testing

[mighty viper]

Most likely, you will be unable to migrate to/from a kingdom till after KVK1

[edgy stratus]

Can I somehow find out for which ones/would i know it on the creation of the account or is that something they would change(and invalidate my account) while im 19 days into it?

[mighty viper]

Well they’d have to probably block off entire KVK2 or KVK3 matchmaking blocks to have things be fair

[manic chasm]

might be able to migrate in his region

[fringe sable]

They have not mentioned that which one but this is what they said in the VIP support and the yt video

[fringe sable]

Idk 😐 what they thinking to do like in start you need to migrate kingdom to kingdom to find a stable one and if they blocking it it's already not fair

[mighty viper]

It’s what imperium kingdoms want apparently

Because let’s be honest the devs only get consistent feedback from the biggest kingdoms

[fringe sable]

Yeah the SOC sleepers are the main issue we wanted to get fixed but they just deleting other sleepers

[mighty viper]

SOC players have a long and storied history of telling the devs that they know best what non-SOC kingdoms want

[fringe sable]

Idk why they ruining new players experience instead of improving that

[mighty viper]

It’s supposedly part of a major “early game revamp” that they’re going to announce once they’ve completed it

[fringe sable]

Yeah I think that too but in between this testing players will most likely be annoyed by this or maybe most of the new players don't care cuz they don't even knew that something like this existed in past

[manic chasm]

it’s not fair compared to players who started earlier

also we all know if you’re f2p after entering soc youre cooked, you have 3 choices: buy an acc/delete the game/restart

[mighty viper]

The entire logic seems to be “new people won’t know better so what’s the harm in making unannounced changes”

[fringe sable]

I wanna make a account in their testing kingdoms i will see how they going to introduce a new migration before kvk 1

[mighty viper]

Supposedly it’ll look like this

[fringe sable]

Haha lol fr this was the first time they announced something

[cunning oar]

i went the worst one, to suffer forever

[fringe sable]

I have that too

[mighty viper]

Thanks for verifying that

[fringe sable]

Also how are f2p going to collect that many conversion stone btw

[mighty viper]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[fringe sable]

they surely just wanna say we don't know what F2P is

Maybe Forced to play

[mighty viper]

The devs unfortunately tend to have an attitude of “if a player doesn’t spend their needs don’t matter”. Even if they don’t internally believe that their actions make it appear that they do

[fringe sable]

Now even hardcore can save them now

[cunning oar]

hoard forever, and maybe u get

[signal spindle]

Bring back jumpers

[cunning oar]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1345010805388869632

[mighty viper]

It’s never going to happen lol, but feel free to make a suggestion post

[fringe sable]

You have to spend like 80 in that event that's coming for formation exchange it's even hard for high spenders to have that many

[cunning oar]

for now we just get 10 per kvk, so 1 legendary per kvk if u look that way

[fringe sable]

My friend has only 2 i just feel sad for him

[cunning oar]

by next kvk i need convert 2 legendaries and 1 rare

[fringe sable]

New archers will be there until then still waiting for them

[cunning oar]

my kk endend today, so either way i will have plenty of time to see tests on both Wedge II and new comm

to see what worth to do

[zealous coyote]

when you go dine at the tent, does it matter how many units or what commander you send?

[faint pasture]

when is the new kingdom gonna come out

[fringe sable]

Nope

[mighty viper]

A random time

[fringe sable]

Most likely there will be 2 commanders one open field and a rally or garrison

[cunning oar]

yes, following the cycle

just gona do fied if he op, else consider skip

[fringe sable]

A garrison maybe cuz when Bilegt was comparing the inspirations there are inscriptions that are mostly of the use for garrison when they get swarmed

Like needing the 600 rage to activate the effects etc. ect.

[fringe sable]

Maybe ZL will be still good so yeah if you have that it's still fine

[cunning oar]

alternating between qsh/zl and qsh/ysg
It depends on the ball.

i prefer qsh/zl tho

[fringe sable]

But can't deny the formation though it's good

[cunning oar]

ye, just curious about how the 'rage one' will work
but ig ppl will alr test on reset

[fringe sable]

Yeah so we can wait for sometime until they test it all out

Rage ones are mostly not for QSH btw

[manic chasm]

why

[cunning oar]

ye, and like i said, my kvk is over, so is not like i on rush or anything

[cunning oar]

idk, just find 'bit better', but diff is too small

i just prefer some debuff around

[manic chasm]

do you have ysg full monument buffed

[fringe sable]

Yeah it's wiser to be patient especially in rok

[cunning oar]

yes, all 3

i used qsh/ysg all kvk long, on last one

this one prefered qsh/zl

I think it's just a matter of personal taste.

[fringe sable]

Just like STP/BQ and STP/Lc

[cunning oar]

i finishing my 5th setz and gona start awaken my qsh gear, so he will be happy on next kvk

[manic chasm]

the difference between them is visible

unlike qsh ysg zl

[cunning oar]

for that is if u prefer dps(ysg) or bit more sustain and debuff(zl)

[fringe sable]

Nah there are personal choices what you prefer

It's STP/Lc for me

[cunning oar]

proc those combo attacks🤓

[fringe sable]

It's better and Lc has more age than BQ

[cunning oar]

Lc have more 'ise' with his exp, who can do so much stuff

[manic chasm]

i don’t understand anything i just play with the most popular commanders

because I dont wanna learn every type of attacks and etc

[fringe sable]

That's what fascinate me learning the game

[cunning oar]

learn how to break stuff

[muted river]

Do I need 1 conquest coin to get autarch?

[velvet hedge]

am i cooked

[crude walrus]

No do barbs full AP

Why can’t I spend materials

[manic chasm]

according to your ap bar, yes, you are

[potent vale]

Sooo
When do I get this exactly?

[lethal jacinth]

Feel free to look at the bottom of your second image

Jk im stealing your autarch

[glass turtle]

3hours till new formatioooonnn

[rose raft]

where do i find the commander talent trees?

[mighty viper]

By using a bot like Zoe in a different server

[worn mango]

is charles sun tzu better then sunt zu aethel?

[mighty viper]

No

[rose raft]

what server?

[glass turtle]

2 hours till neww formatiooonn

[mighty viper]

There’s multiple lol

[undone shoal]

Hello friends. Where can we make alliance boards, or do anyone have ready templates?

[small pebble]

when will the first alex wheel apear in my KD?

[wooden patrol]

How? Martel is broken for spenders

Do we know anything about the events that are coming?

[small pebble]

when will the first alex wheel apear in my KD? is it like before kvk2 in kvk2?

[onyx raptor]

How many levels are in path of vengeance? Is it 200+ or 200 exactly and will we be able to get all the mats we spent on the commanders in path of vengeance to use for diff commanders and or expedition?

[stable flame]

U can use it until U found a suitable replacement but it can definitely last U until late game

[mighty viper]

Yes he’s good for spenders, not F2P.

[undone shoal]

???

[mighty viper]

Closer to 500+ lol

[mighty viper]

Google “alliance mail maker ROK” should find something lol. It’s all HTML coding

[undone shoal]

Do u have ready templates?

[high linden]

does anyone know when ysg wheel and dailies come around?

and also is it worth putting gh into ysg?

[wooden patrol]

Is it worth unlocking Richard?

[mighty viper]

Yes

But don’t spin after unlock

[wooden patrol]

Ok

[humble dagger]

Where new formation ?!!

[frail merlin]

The first ysg wheel is a couple weeks before kvk starts

Dailies are near the end of kvk 1 iirc

And he's definitely worth experticing

[frail merlin]

It's not coming out until after the game updates

[humble dagger]

When is that ?

[frail merlin]

9 utc prob

Maintenance starts at 6

And lasts around 3 hours

[main gulch]

Is YSG that good for f2p?

[main gulch]

came out today for 3993

[high linden]

how old is 3993?

[high linden]

exp yes

[main gulch]

82

[high linden]

oh alr

[main gulch]

we have a 170 mill kraken

[high linden]

oh damn alr

[white tapir]

dayum

[trim valley]

when is the formation coming out alreadyyy

[paper fiber]

Anyone knows why I cannot migrate?

[mental walrus]

no beginners migration

that server is pretty new so no one can migrate to that kd yet

[paper fiber]

I do have beginners teleport,does that not count or

Ohh

[mental walrus]

teleport is for kingdom, passport is used to go to a different kingdom

[paper fiber]

So it changed?

[mental walrus]

no they are just differnt items

regardless that kingdom is really new and you can't migrate there until later

[paper fiber]

Okay I see,thanks

Wait so I just played for 5 days on brand new account for nothing?

I cannot move it to a new kingdom?

[potent nest]

should i expertise YSG kvk 1 as a f2p

[mental walrus]

kvk1 most f2p can't expertise in time

so for k2 yes

not k1

[dark mason]

its my first ysg wheel today, i have like 186 gh and 60k gems, should i spin him?

like can ysg be viable even not expertise?

[latent bear]

should I run arthur phillip or arthur hector?

[mental walrus]

10 spin each wheel, and he's not really viable outside of expertise

[mental walrus]

i like philip better but if others say hector i wouldn't be opposed to either

[dark mason]

so i should just save

[mental walrus]

well you can expertise him before k2 fights

so i'd just 10 spin and save gold heads for until you can expertise him, and then swap him after k2

[dark mason]

how tho

[mental walrus]

by being active

doing all the free gh events

[dark mason]

oh so just 10 spins for now

[mental walrus]

yes

[latent bear]

mh yeaa idk what to run lol

i have 3 cav marches, without gg or achilles

[mental walrus]

and what are they

how can you have three without gg or achilles

you're better off probbaly running 1, maybe two

[latent bear]

huo william, arthur phillip/hector, nevsky joan

its a garri account so i focused on david and hector before gg/achilles

[mental walrus]

scuffed combo

you're better off benching nevsky and william, running huo/joan

if you want to run three you definitely need both gg and achilles

[latent bear]

mh

maybe, need to save ghs until then

[dark mason]

i just did 25 spin lol

so i just save my gh not spend on ysg right?

[onyx raptor]

Is it worth it to get minimoto as an inf main at the start? Also how does flux work is it lik a coupon, if I get a $5 flux then I can exchange it for something worth of $5 while avoiding all the other pop-ups?

[latent bear]

exactly, and for mina probably not

[onyx raptor]

What should I spend for instead, starting kd, the 30 day gem pack or sm?

[latent bear]

30 days gem supply is great, it really depends on your spending level tbh

but gem supply is like 100% a priority

[onyx raptor]

Low spender

[spare socket]

Is there anyone with an alliance that has vip points in their shop?

[latent bear]

ok another question. Do I run ragnar scipio, scipio lc, or lc alex

[mental walrus]

Scip Lc

[latent bear]

thanks

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </recruit:1374685173886619669>

[torn egret]

better off running sun tsu + WW and Bq + LC or sun tsu + BQ and WW + LC for a 2 inf?

[fickle ore]

Should i craft 5 sets even tho i cant maintain 5 marches?

[rose narwhal]

Nope

[stable flame]

I'm in K2 rn and I'm planning to repeat it was thinking Saladin + aeth and mina + ysg

should I invest in saladin

[mental walrus]

Don’t repeat is the easy answer

[mental walrus]

Like second better

Try both and see what’s better for u

[mental walrus]

What would your answer be for that question

[obsidian zephyr]

does forts drop coin for this event

barbarian

[tawny drift]

how can you get legendary inscription for emblem and instrument? cuz the scroll can get from autarch and the flag from the esme shop

[rose narwhal]

Pity I guess

[sharp marsh]

Should a infantry player get YSG

Everyone is hyping him up but figured I’d ask here

[manic chasm]

which season

[mighty viper]

Depends what n spend level and if you can max him

[sharp marsh]

Kvk 1 just started

[sharp marsh]

I’m not low spending but I’m also not a whale

I got 93k gems

[mighty viper]

If you plan to get him to 5555 he’s good

[sharp marsh]

I don’t think I wanna invest that much money into a archer commander, especiallly if it’s 5555 when I could just wait a lil for a infcommander that’s better 5511

If that’s even a thing

[rose narwhal]

Not quite no it's a matter of how many GHs u have by the time u get YSG

Well I mean it will be a thing in a year from now when you reach SOC, if u can't expertise YSG though you don't usually even spend in him, u rather save your gold heads for season of conquest commanders

[high linden]

if u defeat barbs, u get coins to donate to the bar yes. maximum of 50 iirc

[indigo raven]

@rose narwhal hey i have a question i lied to my friend i said im going to sleep but i didnt

Is it ok ?

[rose narwhal]

no

[obsidian zephyr]

are there any event that give us reward by spending gold key 💔💔💔

[primal ore]

is adding random people from the server allowed? i’ve had SEVERAL people i don’t know add me and not say anything.

[rose narwhal]

Bots probably, one generally doesn't accept friend requests from people they know absolutely nothing about

I personally have friend requests for this server disabled

Lots of bots

[primal ore]

how do you do that

[dense sorrel]

Im getting Sun Tzu P and Bai qi as my primary match in kvk 3 but im planning to open a second march

[dense sorrel]

Which march should i get

Liu che-Alex or qsh-Ysg ?

[stable flame]

why not? Doesn't repeating make the inscription worth?

[stable flame]

Ofc qsh ysg

[dense sorrel]

I mean when i open a new march

I already have some spare

[dense sorrel]

Legend equipment

For my infantry one

But like opening a new archer march is like a complete new start

[mental walrus]

Not worth the redo u have to do

[glass turtle]

Where is new formation event tf

[warped heart]

Ya gotta wait for maintenance

[glass turtle]

What that means

[halcyon flame]

hi guys so I'm new to the game and I have these commanders and idk who I should focus on leveling up

oh wait this is the wrong channel

[white tapir]

Focus on sun tzu my friend

Use either Baibars-Sun if you would like to play cavalry, or Sun-Aetheflaed(you'll get her later) for infantry

If you plan to be more of a spender, you can invest more into minamoto and run him in kvk1, he's also good for barbarian forts

[halcyon flame]

okay, thanks!

[obsidian zephyr]

hey should i be using sun ae or sun pyrrhus for infantry

[fringe sable]

Sun Aeth

[obsidian zephyr]

what abt pyrr

[fringe sable]

Spender

[tepid path]

do they give you a shield after the shutdown? im lowk in the middle of a battlefield rn

[mighty viper]

Yes you get a system shield for a few hours or until you log in again

[tepid path]

how many hours

cuz im goinmg to beed rn lol

[mighty viper]

It’s either 3 or 6, I wouldn’t say it’s long enough to sleep on

[tepid path]

so im cooked

i mean im on territory so i might just wing it but like damn

[mighty viper]

Have better time management next time

It’s not like the game has banner announcements for this sort of thing

[tepid path]

u think i read?

how bold

[mighty viper]

If you can have this conversation I would assume so

[tepid path]

nah im prob fione then

ik wake up in 7 hours

and we already won the zone technically

[faint pasture]

hello I just want to ask something because I'm new, howmuch power u can gain in 1 day usually?

[rugged turtle]

Idk

[native sable]

Its 24 since a few patches

[native sable]

24 until you log in

[bleak quartz]

What should I choose for new wedge wishlist

[solid surge]

As an active f2p I did around 80k per day in my first month

But it depends on how much money you spend

[potent vale]

That's when it opens...
So you don't get it until it opens I guess 🤪

[stable flame]

50k in the start maybe perday if low activity

200k is also very possible

[upper forge]

are sleepers being removed?

[native sable]

Why would you think that ?

[upper forge]

everyones saying it and big youtuber making videos abt it

[native sable]

You likely are beeing clickbaited by BS

Sleeping is same-season immigration so .... Nothing changed ?

Unless the wording is wrong or i am beeing insanely stopid

[upper forge]

it says restricted from same season immigration until k1 no?

[native sable]

Which is already the case

[upper forge]

but doesnt that mean you cant migrate to a 10 day yr kd anymore

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[upper forge]

from 20 days for example

[native sable]

Your starting kingdom will 100% still be in season1 at 20days old .... So again .... Nothing changed

But tbh the wording of my screen is weird:
"Currently Blahblah
This will be tested in new kingdoms, blah"

So is it current or is it new ?

[warped heart]

Sleeping meta is fucked

[native sable]

How so ?

[warped heart]

They removed the ability to migrate throughout season 1 or kvk1

[native sable]

Ok so thats absolutely NOT what they wrote in the patch note

[warped heart]

The only way to migrate is after kvk1 or season 2

[warped heart]

They said that in the latest official video

[native sable]

Ok i did not pay much attention to that part as i legit dont care

[warped heart]

I paid closer attention so that I wanna know the reason why Leo got replaced

It's basically a bad news video

Leo was hinting at us ever since he was gone

[native sable]

Hinting what ?
Is he really gone from lilith ?

Or is that rumor bs

[warped heart]

He's gone from the latest official video

My boy

He will provide good news the moment he appears

Trust

[native sable]

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Leo ?

[warped heart]

I already praise him as a higher being before you, even see him as a body pillow before

Anyways sleeping meta is fucked unless they changed it

[fast robin]

**Support has confirmed my gem logs, but they don’t reconcile.
My balance went from 56,526 to 55,626 (−900) after completing the recent Spring event and claiming all rewards.

They’ve restated the transactions multiple times but haven’t explained the 900-gem shortfall.

Could someone from the team review this at a ledger level?**

[warped heart]

I think this restriction is only applied to certain regions or continents who the fuck knows

[warped heart]

Ask your Caesar customer support and also no one in here can help you beside ingame support

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[warped heart]

You could try messaging official Facebook

[solid surge]

It says immigration will be restricted during season 1 so rip sleepers

[native sable]

Restricted to same season. So not rip. But it appeears the patch note is innacurate so rip sleeperd

[solid surge]

Not to, from

[torn egret]

does it just swap the progress from my wedge 1 to wedge 2?

[fast niche]

should i add archer attack to the one on the left and use it, or should i replace the other one with the transformation stone?

[fast robin]

Thank you. Sadly Caesar Support confirmed the shortfall but refuse to address it.

[fringe turret]

For those currently in KvK, will we be able to select the wedge 2 gold inscription armament from the autarch shopb

?

[native sable]

No

[native sable]

Just use the one on the right and keep it mike this. Save for other ones

[fringe turret]

Damn

[jolly nova]

Why does my wishlist progress is different here after swapping?,can I get explanation?

[white tapir]

Is it worth it to use conversion stones on things with common inscription only, for the event quests?

[native sable]

Depend on the inscription, but im sceptical on the fact that you dont have any rare one to transmute

[ripe frost]

What are these lmao

[jolly nova]

After swapping,I tried to continue my progress on wishlist,but it doesn't change,or am I missing something here?

[white tapir]

No rare ones since kvk2 just started so we only just got armaments

[native sable]

Are you sure you pulled the right one ?

[jolly nova]

Yes

[warped heart]

Barbarian update

They finally give a fuck about barbarians

[native sable]

Well, 100 transmo stones for 1 convo stone is defo worth it

But wait as long as possible so you dont transmo sht

[white tapir]

Will do!

[jolly nova]

Should contact CS?

[white tapir]

Don't have 100 transmo stones lol

Maybe I shouldn't do it then, I only got 70

[native sable]

How long is the event ? They pile up fairly quick

Be sure to recycle non inscribed purple and blue for coins and buy from esmeralda

[white tapir]

9 days, and you get decent amounts from just obtaining legendary armaments

I only got my state forum at 21 tho, so my armament gain is a lil slower

But I am just starting kvk and there are heaps of quests with transmutation stones coming

[stable flame]

Barbs just with diff skill animations

[ripe frost]

Thanks Lol

Thought it was a visul bug like usually

[stable flame]

Looks cooler imo

[cunning oar]

when i get the third, i can alr use on this KvK, or only on the next one?

[ripe frost]

They should drop diff rewards

Still same boring crap

[verbal lintel]

Im in kvk 2 should i get cheok or alex

[warped heart]

You automatically use the autarch this kvk

[warped heart]

Nah they Want to enrich the diversity and add something new to the eyes, which is still the same

[ripe frost]

Hmm I guess

Now we wait for them to update forts Lmao

[cunning oar]

get the barb one ig

[warped heart]

Add spikes that does nothing but visual effect

[ripe frost]

Sure 😂 I'll take anything atp

[cunning oar]

the barbs have a nicer death anim now

[stable flame]

depends on what U have

[cunning oar]

atleast they dont just disapear

[ripe frost]

Yeah atleast

[verbal lintel]

Should i get both 😂

[stable flame]

If Ur phyrr has good skills then check if U have ysg exp then Alex ig

[stable flame]

cheok skill doesn't scale off skill damage so if U want U gotta be careful

[mental walrus]

depends on your spend

[green venture]

after I click 1 coin. Means All Wedge Formation will change to Wedge Formation II for all my commanders under Wedge Formation?

[warped heart]

You still need to convert your armaments to wedge 2

[cunning oar]

just change your current pity

[warped heart]

It'll cost alot of conversions stones which people don't have the luxury to have

[cunning oar]

1 kvk=1 legendary

[green venture]

I have changed some to Wedge II using conversion stones and gain that coin.

[rose narwhal]

My pity is at 6/10 for wedge but I don't think I'll get the coin 😭

[stable flame]

will the game auto convert after some period of time or will wedge 1 just stay in the game forever

[cunning oar]

i think will stay

[warped heart]

Wedge 1 still stays

[rose narwhal]

There is no way Lilith would auto convert lol

[green venture]

Then what is that gold coin for ?

[warped heart]

They even prepared generations for it

[stable flame]

True that be too nice of em

[rose narwhal]

Swaps your pity

[cunning oar]

pity

[warped heart]

Swaps your wishlist and pity and whatever you feel inside of you

[rose narwhal]

[stable flame]

Let's say my progress bar shows 6 instead of 0 it swaps the 6 from wedge 1 and transfers it to wedge 2 but Ur wedge 1 pity will for most players be zero

[late ledge]

Which country should i use for infantry?

[fringe sable]

Just new looks and different basic skills

[green venture]

Ok noted

[wanton venture]

yo, when does smithy come?

[hardy osprey]

Is that true that sleeper are no longer allowed in ROK?

[rose narwhal]

Correct yessir

[high linden]

early game always china

[rose narwhal]

Migration for preparation season seems to have been removed

[late ledge]

Not early budd

[high linden]

use the picture in pins then

[hardy osprey]

Ah I see thanks

[late ledge]

I want overall

[high linden]

look in pins

[ripe frost]

Aoe rip my 5th Trash march

[late ledge]

There is no overall

[high linden]

because you cant have one that is good at everything

[fast robin]

There's a pattern of monetisation design that nudges players into repeated spend to stay competitive.

Across Rise of Kingdoms we're seeing:

1. Planned obsolescence of systems
   • New formations (e.g. “Wedge II”) introduced
   • Existing formations become suboptimal or redundant
   • Conversion requires rare items (e.g. 10 conversion stones)
   → effectively forcing spend to maintain parity

⸻

2. Power creep via commanders
   • Continuous release of new commanders
   • Each iteration is incrementally stronger
   • Older investments lose competitive value

→ prior spend is depreciated by design

⸻

3. Pay-to-compete escalation
   • Not just pay-to-win
   • Increasingly: pay-to-keep-up
   • Cost of staying relevant rises over time

⸻

4. Friction + monetisation coupling
   • High conversion costs
   • Scarce resources
   • Time-gating

→ all engineered to:

convert frustration into spending

⸻

The game introduces systems that devalue prior player investment and then monetises the ability to recover competitiveness.

That’s a design pattern, not an accident.

⸻

These mechanics are not clearly disclosed as part of a recurring cycle of obsolescence and re-monetisation, and create ongoing pressure to spend beyond initial purchases.

⸻

Can anyone clarify how this is intended to be fair or transparent?

[high linden]

catch up bro

[ripe frost]

What?

[rose narwhal]

Yup

[high linden]

it makes lilith money

[ripe frost]

Elaborate please

[high linden]

it isnt supposed to be fair or transparent

[fast robin]

💯

[fringe sable]

Migration is not allowed in newer kingdoms before kvk 1

[rose narwhal]

Well, u can't migrate during preparation season anymore

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[rose narwhal]

I do not know if this applies to off season tho

[ripe frost]

Not even in other prep seasons?

[rose narwhal]

Sorry?

[late ledge]

Best country for kvk 1

[high linden]

[late ledge]

[rose narwhal]

Idk I just did Vikings w France for kvk 1

[ripe frost]

During prep season you can't migrate in other prep season kds?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[rose narwhal]

Or well not really Kvk 1

[high linden]

this genuinely is ragebait or r u actually slow like this

check pins

[rose narwhal]

In my current account I'm doing china + France 😂

[fringe sable]

Yeah

[late ledge]

Why u r mad i haven’t asked u

[rose narwhal]

No sir

[high linden]

because ive answered u

and you cant seem to get my point

[ripe frost]

I'm talking pre kvk 1

[rose narwhal]

Still no

[late ledge]

Your answer isn’t direct

[high linden]

and instead repeat the same "overall"

IT IS DIRECT

[late ledge]

Nope

[high linden]

[late ledge]

Idk what is even special units is

Its not real war

[meager badge]

jst use france for the healing

[high linden]

so you ARE early game

so shush and listen

[rose narwhal]

[high linden]

LOOK in pins

[late ledge]

City hall 21 isn’t early

[late ledge]

NO

[rose narwhal]

It is

[high linden]

and PICK the civilization based on your troop type

[meager badge]

thats early game

[high linden]

it is

[rose narwhal]

Soc is late game

[high linden]

[late ledge]

I don’t need china anymore

[rose narwhal]

Ur not CH 25 so you do

[high linden]

you still do

so shush and keep building

🙏

[late ledge]

Idc about this 5% there is alot of wars

[high linden]

skill issue

keep china

[rose narwhal]

Are u in kvk already or through a civil war?

[late ledge]

[high linden]

if its a civil migrate

[rose narwhal]

And If it's kvk restart

[late ledge]

Civil

[high linden]

migrate

[rose narwhal]

Yeah I see

[late ledge]

K

[high linden]

dont waste ur time fighting

[late ledge]

alr

[rose narwhal]

I'd keep China until CH 25 regardless and just not get myself involved, and as holes says, try and migrate out

[late ledge]

[ripe frost]

@rose narwhal I can go just fine

[rose narwhal]

Your kingdom spawned before the update came live

[late ledge]

Well whats the best units type for early game

[ripe frost]

Ohhhhhhh

[rose narwhal]

I would assume the change will be in effect from today onwards

[nimble spade]

What can i use for chaning as F2P without spending to much resourses (it would be best if i can hit kvk 4 barbs and bothe commanders are 1111)

[ripe frost]

So new kingdoms cannot recruit migrants?

[warped heart]

Why did questions channel turn to general

[late ledge]

Btw how to be the king? U have to own the top 1 alliance?

[warped heart]

They cant yeah

[ripe frost]

Why would they do that lmao

[rose narwhal]

I dunno, I just slapped vikings and France buff for inf

[green venture]

What is Rare Inscription guarantee progress ? Where and how to find out its progress?

[late ledge]

K

[late ledge]

Wait how and?

[warped heart]

You find it out through your commanders> your formation > info icon on the top right > scroll down

[rose narwhal]

U can have one civilizations unit and another civs buff

[warped heart]

Idk, they're gonna implement this change in selected potential unlucky continents or kingdoms though

[rose narwhal]

They're bored ig 💔

[warped heart]

So pray that your not one of them

[late ledge]

Got it

[late ledge]

Btw how to be the king? U have to own the top 1 alliance?

[rose narwhal]

I mean 1111 is eh, I guess you can slap any damage dealing commander in front of CY, or if u have QSH u can do QSH Shajar and that'll do

[fringe sable]

You have to be leader of the alliance that occupy lost temple

[cunning oar]

when Tomes are off

[nimble spade]

Right now i usr richard(5111) QSH a 2. Marsh would be god

[late ledge]

Oh okay thanks

[late ledge]

Don’t u think japan inf units are better ?

[warped heart]

U have to capture the zigg then your the king who is the leader of the alliance who captured the zigg
Or just become a leader of the strongest alliance and potentially have king

[rose narwhal]

I'd get CY or Shajar then and you'll be fine, u can do QSH Shajar and somebody else Richard

[late ledge]

Alr thanks

[rose narwhal]

Both will do at 1111

[warped heart]

Richard, shajar, CY or caocao are your goto healing chaining commanders to use

[rose narwhal]

I dunno, I didn't stop to look at them, thus I don't actually know which ones are better

[fringe sable]

That's not zigg

[warped heart]

Visually, but practically no

[warped heart]

Shit I forgot, was it the lost temple

[rose narwhal]

They want them to work at 1111 tho CC won't work that low

[sharp marsh]

Yeah I didn’t know GH were supposed to be saved so I dumped my ghs into Charles Martel I have 10 heads currently but I’m vip 11

[late ledge]

Sure? They have more dmg

[warped heart]

Japan sucks, having more health is the meta

[late ledge]

Japan units with vikings buff

[late ledge]

ok

[rose narwhal]

If you can't expertise I wouldn't go for him

[fringe sable]

And what your CM skill level rn ?

[sharp marsh]

5524

[rose narwhal]

U probably want France buff if you're a low spender, 20% healing speedup reduction goes insane

[late ledge]

F2p

[warped heart]

I use this guide

[sharp marsh]

But I was told CM after kvk 1 is buns

So seems I wasted

[late ledge]

There is no viking at all

[fringe sable]

Use him in kvk 1 and kvk 2 then what done is done

[warped heart]

He's still good, I mean good as in he's good for swap event

[cunning oar]

me using Korea/France

[sharp marsh]

O there’s a swap event?

[rose narwhal]

I'd stick w France buff then

After u switch ofc

[late ledge]

Alr thanks sir

[fringe sable]

It's miss

[warped heart]

Vikings is defense oriented while infantry has alot of defense in general so we don't need too much defense

[late ledge]

Wha

[rose narwhal]

No no it's not

[late ledge]

Kk

[warped heart]

Yes, in season 3 off-season you get a swap event that swaps your selected commander (example a 5555) to a new soc commander (1111)
In turn it swaps 1111 - 5555

[fringe sable]

Even then it's not sir

[native sable]

No theyre not, legionaire are the one defense oriented

[stable flame]

Can U explain I didn't get enough time to watch the vids but I saw the thumbnails

[native sable]

And i did the math long ago for an inf main with a 15% zenith defense skin and full ico5 meta gear: france was still better

I mean axemen

[rose narwhal]

From now on, u can't migrate before kvk 1 by the looks of it

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[stable flame]

U could get banned for Ur name fyi

[stable flame]

So migration unlocks at pre kvk 2?

[rose narwhal]

I would assume so

We don't really know I don't think

Maybe it allows to migrate during K1 off season

[ripe frost]

Accidentally clear my nick lol mb

[warped heart]

I'm gonna make a complaint on dom

[fringe sable]

For inf it's France (tanky), Greece (best trades) and Vikings (in middle) Bilegt did calculate this when they introduced new civilization selection method

[wooden patrol]

Is it even worth it to switch civilisation for the special unit

[native sable]

No

[warped heart]

Never paid too much attention on bilegt calculation cause too long

[native sable]

I have doubt about that.
Greece is atk/health
Viking is atk/def
Japan is full atk
Rome is full def
France is full health

Gut tells me france unit are superior

[fringe sable]

They are tanky one

[wooden patrol]

So why having a guide for that?

[warped heart]

Nah, unless you have an extra civ change

[warped heart]

To minmax

[fringe sable]

He's saying not to spend 10000 gems on it if you have civilization change you sure should go ahead

[wooden patrol]

What is minmax?

[warped heart]

To efficiently use the best buffs while having a minimum and to maximize its buffs in a specific scenario

[native sable]

Gamer slang for "optimizing"

[warped heart]

Yeah that, I just forgot

[native sable]

Derivate from the facts that in a lot of games, its better to minimise some stats and maximize others, creating a very focused character/unit.
While jack of all trades / balanced unit tend to suck

[foggy silo]

Does farms under 10m and non ch25 take up spots in kvk4 migration?

[small pebble]

is it possible for f2p to hit stage 3 gathering of heroes for stp?

[mental walrus]

No

[small pebble]

really ? cause i did some math i would need to use like 90k gems and 103 days of speeds i think

is that rly not possible

[mental walrus]

Check the pins about the event

[native sable]

Probably is, but also probably inneficient as those gems and speed were not invested earlier

[mental walrus]

^

[foggy silo]

cheaper to get from keys

[small pebble]

you can get stp from keys?

[warped heart]

No

[small pebble]

when commander swap event is on