❓〡questions

[rose narwhal]

I'm not really an expert so take it w a grain of salt

[slate saddle]

So reseting caocao is good move?

[weary flame]

And honestly keep cc bc he’s not that bad for forts and stuff

[native sable]

depends on your kingdom activity, how many multiples of 8 rallies can you realistcly sustain

[weary flame]

Reset him is fine tho

Well cc level under 30 doesn’t matter does it ?

[half timber]

I see, thank you

[native sable]

cav gear: chest is terrible.
archer gear: boots are terrible.
Arthur/Nev doesnt work, do Nevski Arthur

issue is you went and leveled legendaries. they cost more xp per level, and levels is the best "stat"

[slate saddle]

it increase my power

[native sable]

isnt it city keeper ?

[hoary inlet]

Vengeance not canyon

[native sable]

lower rarity = more level for same quantity of XP

[slate saddle]

so do i reset mina too

[native sable]

isnt it the very same ? level > everything

cause it's troop capacity

[slate saddle]

what talent do i put in lancelot

[hoary inlet]

Vengeance is only commander

[native sable]

god that's retardid

[hoary inlet]

Meh

Its easy asf

[native sable]

#❓〡questions message
.

[hoary inlet]

And the current meta is to stop at 199 anyway

And push last day

If i remember correctly

[slate saddle]

do i put all in cavalry

[native sable]

yes cause versatility os bordeline useless, and mobility has very few usefull things

[hoary inlet]

Skill tree does not matter for vengeance

[slate saddle]

ohh ok

do i keep using their sculpture

does that increase my power

even if i dont use them

[visual sedge]

It is here

[native sable]

you ask a question, i answer, then you ask the same question again, what is wrong with you

[visual sedge]

Ah i mean

How much rss i need

[native sable]

how the F could i know

[visual sedge]

to heal my troops to get that Kp

[native sable]

it's skill based

[visual sedge]

Idk ur smart unc

[native sable]

smart aint god

[visual sedge]

Shakespeer is alive

🥹

[rose narwhal]

[steady tinsel]

CM/Sun or Sun/YSG for Kvk1 ?

[mighty viper]

Sun/YSG, but only if YSG is expertise

[visual sedge]

Kraken activity

I dont have ysg expert in kvk 8

[mighty viper]

Nah this is mid spender activity

[steady tinsel]

easy to Expe YSG Kvk1 as F2P 0$ ?

[visual sedge]

No

0%

[steady tinsel]

[mighty viper]

Not really, no

[steady tinsel]

possible ?

is it easier to exp CM for kvk1 ?

[mighty viper]

Possible? Yes. Easy? No

[mighty viper]

No

[steady tinsel]

I need a guide tbh

[mighty viper]

Use Sun/Aeth then lol

[steady tinsel]

Never, Is was awful Kvk1

[mighty viper]

No it’s not

It’s the meta F2P march for KVK1 and KVK2

[steady tinsel]

EVEN KV2 ???

[rose narwhal]

Meh falls off then but still does well

[visual sedge]

@native sable can i max infantry tech crytal?

If i buy season pack and chain daily

[hoary inlet]

What skills do i get for sun tzu in canyon?

Its lvl 37 rn

[iron apex]

Im a returning player, will there be an event to unlock Achilles ?

[icy reef]

when will I be able to start using vacation permit for migration? Is that kvk4 and beyond only?

[rose narwhal]

I believe so

[icy reef]

this is robbery

[rose narwhal]

😂

[icy reef]

15 passports to migrate sucks 😭

[rose narwhal]

Wait until you need 40 or 50

Gonna have a lot of fun

[icy reef]

that looks so cooked ngl

[novel crescent]

Unfortunately no I’m in the same case than you lol

Unless you missed swap event

[upper rivet]

is it possible to get assistance building up Army in #3987 Kingdom of Norlton, trying to help Graddaughter get a little Boost

[mighty viper]

Join the strongest alliance possible

[heavy bolt]

I ran it kvk2 and traded 1:1 every time

[icy reef]

Im running sun as well probably lol

sun ysg, dunno if I want to run pure T5 or a mix of T4/T5 for this kvk

[lean matrix]

If you had to make two epic accessories to throw on while you wait for legendarys what would you make.

[weary flame]

How good is Keira in k1 k2 compared to the other options?

[elfin valley]

there’s only 2 to make

silent and delanes

the book isn’t really accessible early game if you’re soc i’d use delanes and book. silent trial kinda bad

[fringe turret]

Has anyone done the calculations? Is it worth it to buy the 10 levels of exp at Jeweler's Jaunt if I'm at lvl 50 already? Is value for material good compared to egg?

[lunar musk]

Pure commander comparisons? Probably one of the best epic commanders and would probably be very strong with sun tzu or ysg as an archer option for kvk1/2

HOWEVER
Maxxing her is a waste since youd be sacrificing materials and other actual progression just to slowly progress keira. In the end that makes her more harm than benefit

The logical option if you really wanna stick to archers is to get thut/ysg or beg for mges to have a usable el cid for free with ysg behind

Only recommended for spenders. A shame keira cant be the thing that makes archers f2p/lowspender viable

[lean matrix]

Thanks!

Second question for anyone. I heard news a while ago about an equipment reset or refunded something like that? I’m assuming similar to the commander reset. Anyone heard anything about that?

[late ledge]

Can i by any chance reset the commander level to level up another commander?

[rose narwhal]

If you're in a kingdom less than 7D old yes

Otherwise not really until swap

[late ledge]

Swap?

[rose narwhal]

At the end of kvk 2 you / start of KvK 3 off season you can swap the skill level and XP levels of 2 legendary commanders at most, with a few exceptions (Aeth, mina Barca and legendary gatherers)

[late ledge]

Im at Preparation season

Im so far away from that right ? :-:

[cunning oar]

still think her is a lost potential

[rose narwhal]

Indeed

[cunning oar]

Just changing that, I think it would make Archer F2P okay.

[rose narwhal]

So the answer would be no u can't reset a commanders level past 7 days of a kingdom

[late ledge]

So im cooked

[rose narwhal]

Depends

Who did u spend your exp on

And how old is your kingodkn

[late ledge]

Cao cao

[rose narwhal]

🥀

If your kingdom isn't too old it's still salvageable dw

[late ledge]

15 days

[rose narwhal]

You're good yeah

Get sun tzu to 60 and aeth to 30 with 4th skill unlocked and you'll be fine for kvk 1 and 2

[late ledge]

Okay ty sir

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[dusk crypt]

Hi, I'm new player. Any guide and tips to have a good start?

[rose narwhal]

Pins on this channel the starter guide by nickname and watch logic bank

[late ledge]

Sry but who is aeth

;-;

[rose narwhal]

Aethlefald

You get her off expedition

[late ledge]

Oh yh yh i have it

Ty again

[rose narwhal]

[late ledge]

Aeth skill tree plz

[mental walrus]

Peacekeeping

[late ledge]

Sure? Isn’t this only good for barb?

[mental walrus]

Yes

[late ledge]

I want for kvk

[mental walrus]

You don’t use her primary for field

[late ledge]

And fights

[mental walrus]

She’s a secondary

[late ledge]

Hmm okay thanks

[white tapir]

When does alliance mobilization come around next

[elfin valley]

You should say that to the kingdom i saw rallying a flag with Aeth/El Cid in kvk 2

[coarse star]

any tips on how to commit to the game? i genuinely want to commit but every time i unlock t2 in the span of 1 hour of playing i get bored

[rose narwhal]

Whenever it is lost inconvenient as usual

[rose narwhal]

Commit because of the community honestly

And then meh yeah it may be a bit boring at times but u won't fully burn out and quit

[coarse star]

true

[coarse star]

hopefully

[rose narwhal]

This game is built on the community after all, it's one of the bigger factors for a lot of people

[coral scarab]

how do i play on pc

[rose narwhal]

Downloading the launcher from the official website

[elfin valley]

get into a good alliance asap after making an account

best bet is to get involved with a project

[icy reef]

Game is chat box with game play attached

[rose narwhal]

[mental walrus]

W rally

[coral scarab]

another question, I have auto peacekeeping levels 1 - 12 on but it only fights level 12s for some reason. does someone know why?

[mighty viper]

That may be a bug so you can try posting in #🐞〡bugs, or perhaps you only have level 12 barbs in range

[lunar wind]

would it be possible to revive my current account
-SOC
-9.5m post zero
-Was very weak and a joke account
-I dont care if it takes a couple months
-Able to properly play on any kd seed possible
-T4
-No good commanders

[rose narwhal]

Better off restarting

[mighty viper]

No it’s not, not without a good deal of money to spend. You need to restart

[lunar wind]

i dont have time

i really have 0 time i just had to quit my project i was r5 of

idrk what to do

[mighty viper]

Then frankly i kinda doubt you have the time needed to play this game

[lunar wind]

idk bro

[lunar wind]

do u think i can make a farm killer

[mighty viper]

No

[lunar wind]

so wtf u think i can do with an account ill play like 1-2 hrs a day

[rose narwhal]

Tbh nothing

[icy reef]

i think you can get by with 2 hours if you're like super efficiet with your time

like you never chat just chain or do 1+1 forts on non fighting days

[rose narwhal]

Yeah but not w a 9M account in SOC tho

[icy reef]

thats cooked

[rose narwhal]

Once your account is already built yeah you can get away with that

[lunar wind]

what is built

elaborate when you think built is

[mighty viper]

Has most tech/T5 and meta commanders

[lunar wind]

fuck

[rose narwhal]

Yeah that's pretty much it

[lunar wind]

lowkey

im going to make the goat farm account

im just gonna play casually and get as many rss nodes as i can

and just migrate it to whenever i think i have time to restart in like kvk2

[icy reef]

you can just buy a built account from wontrade and play with like 2 hours a day

[rose narwhal]

Migration rules will likely prevent that tbh

[icy reef]

i looked but a lot of them r just bad

[rose narwhal]

🙏

[lunar wind]

im broke

[white tapir]

That's actually intended, because lvl 12 barbs can spawn around the city so it just always spawns the highest level ones in range

[junior oyster]

i had to spend 4500 gems to get lucerne last minute to lvl 50

worth or i fked up?

i fell asleep before finishing it

[white tapir]

I also have a pretty strange question, currently in between kvk1 and kvk2 and I have archer chest and gloves built, and leadership legs. Have enough mats for 2 legendary crafts and not sure where to go. I should've made archer legs instead of leadership but do I keep going and make leadership boots, or make archer set stuff and put the leadership pants on an inf march

Cause I'm planning to do inf as second march

[rose narwhal]

U can do 2/2/2, 2 DB 2 leadership and 2 KvK, although I believe 2/4 (2 KvK 4 DB) is slightly better so ehh depends tbh, you can put it in your inf if you don't plan on using Karuak, and you don't wanna dismantle it tbh

[cold sonnet]

Is the next Zenith inf?

[rose narwhal]

Yuh

[cold sonnet]

Cool thanks

[last vortex]

at 9m power is it still 1 passport page to migrate?

[cold sonnet]

Looks like yes

[mighty viper]

Yes

[last vortex]

ty!

[white tapir]

So both options of going for 2-2-2 and moving it to inf and going 2-4 on archers are good. Is it kvk4 when I get access to kvk gear? Feels like so long away

[cold sonnet]

Just reminded me that I need 55 now to migrate 🥲

[mighty viper]

L

[cold sonnet]

Not migrating anyways

[rose narwhal]

Yes it is when you gain access

[cold sonnet]

Not even Sparkz can convince me

[rose narwhal]

I would personally go for 2/4 because of the +3% skill damage and slap the leadership waist on infantry since you don't have the piece done anyways as long as you can craft the archer gear fine

[white tapir]

TY!

[rose narwhal]

[rose narwhal]

Although tbh karuaks is basically the same as the waist so I guess that's an option just if u don't wanna dismantle it yk

[white tapir]

Well it's definitely a waste to dismantle right? And it has iconic which karuaks doesn't

[rose narwhal]

I mean if you have already iconized then it's even more of a waste imo, I've come to the point in which I've ran out of iconic crystals so yeah definitely don't recommend dismantling iconized stuff

But, are you gonna be able to do 2/4 for your archers before moving on to infantry?

[white tapir]

Definitely not since I'd have to wait until kvk4 to make the kvk weapon and helm

I was probably going to get 4 archer pieces, then work on inf stuff until kvk4

[rose narwhal]

By 4 archer pieces I assume u mean just 4 normal ones mhm

[white tapir]

Well, either 4 or 2-2

But leave weapon and helmet empty

[rose narwhal]

Hmmmmm empty as in an epic piece or

Literally empty

[white tapir]

Yeah epic haha

[rose narwhal]

Are u taking into account accessories either?

Also*

[white tapir]

I currently have silent trial crit, and delane's on my thutmose, and flag on sun

[rose narwhal]

I mean soc accessories

[white tapir]

Haven't taken that into account, should I make ring and horn before other stuff?

[rose narwhal]

You should finish your first march fully before moving onto a second tbh

Accessories are expensive but they're also important

Finish off your first march completely before moving onto the next one or you'll end up doing mistakes like me having to dismantle a whole march because it's just ass

[white tapir]

When do they arrive? I don't rly wanna sit there with a bunch of materials not doing much until SOC

[rose narwhal]

They arrive in kvk 4 😂

[rose narwhal]

Tbf it's better to save than to be missing them when you need them

[white tapir]

Dayum, so do I just hoard mats like a MF until kvk4? And just be rly weak for kvk3

[rose narwhal]

I wouldn't say that

But finish your main gear first and then save for accessories

It's 40 of each legendary mat

Don't do a second march until your first is fully done tbh

[white tapir]

The problem is I can't finish the main gear until SOC tho, so I'll have only 4 legendary pieces on the main march until then

[rose narwhal]

Like really, trying to spread your gear like that won't always work well so it's not really advisable either yk

[rose narwhal]

Yeah then that's fine, get kvk stuff after kvk 4 and accessories and then you'll be aight

Tbh I did forget you don't have access to them yet even tho you've said that 3 times that's my bad

[white tapir]

maybe I'll just have to whale and get more materials so I can do it all

[icy reef]

This depends on spend level too if you can have 2 gold march or more before kvk4 (minus accessory) then you can do whatever you want and be ok

[rose narwhal]

That's also a very fair point yeah

If you already have 2 or more actual marches before K4 it doesn't matter that much but assuming he wants to do infantry after kvk 4 as a second march I don't think it's the case

[white tapir]

I'm pretty sure I can get somewhat close, given that if I use my mats RN then I'll have enough to have 6 legendary pieces total and kvk1 is still technically not over

[rose narwhal]

I'm confused tho, u wanna do infa before K4 then?

[white tapir]

Commander plan was to try do QSH-YSG and STP-LC in kvk3

I'll definitely have enough heads for all of them expertise, I've done the calcs

[icy reef]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-meme-buzz-year-copy-meme-gif-4668439001950303425

[rose narwhal]

Mhm I see

Are u gonna repeat any kvk?

[white tapir]

Perfect reaction gif

[white tapir]

Wasn't planning to, cause I like my kd and wanted to stay with them

[rose narwhal]

Fair enough

Alright well, do 4 pieces DB and fill the 2 slots with epics as you said, and we'll see for infantry later on I guess, although I don't think materials are ever gonna be your biggest problem anyway

[white tapir]

You think blueprints will be more of a problem?

[rose narwhal]

No I don't think you're ever gonna have an issue if you're in this situation and KvK 1 isn't over

[white tapir]

Ahh I see hahaha

[elfin valley]

Especially if the new archer commander will be good

[rose narwhal]

As long as you don't spread yourself too thin with the marches gear-wise you will absolutely be fine

[white tapir]

I am usually in top 5 of lost canyon which is nice for gear and I try spend gems on gear events when possible

[rose narwhal]

I would say for a 2 march target you'll likely be fine fs, accessories may take a bit longer if anything but at this rhythm you're already way ahead of most

Tbh accessories may not even be a struggle for you, if you keep this up by K2 u may even have enough for an inf march and you'd have all of K3 to save or whatever

[white tapir]

That would be a great position to be in yeah

[rose narwhal]

We will see as time goes on but you're on the right path fs

[smoky zodiac]

I just invested all my gems/ stuff to sun tzu prime and im hearing he is about to get nerfed is this true?

[warped heart]

Nerfed by criticisms of cav people who aré whining, yes

[smoky zodiac]

so is he not even worth it anymore?

[spark moat]

all is compared whom you fight

[smoky zodiac]

bro I wasted all the gems that coulda went to my casle 😢

[spark moat]

made same mistake i waste too my gem khan wheel insteand vip or castle upgarde hahaha

[smoky zodiac]

broo

is it even worth using my gold heald scrupltures?

im at 5 1 1 1

prolly take me another 5 months to expertise

[spark moat]

into sun

[smoky zodiac]

yeah

[spark moat]

get vip 14 urgent

[warped heart]

Idk, probably cause your not ch25 and literally not 40m power with full T4 and decent legendary gear then it's not possible

[smoky zodiac]

thats an insnae amount of gems will take me alot of time

[spark moat]

vip12

[smoky zodiac]

Im VIP 13 rn

[smoky zodiac]

I gotta be grinding the events for them

[warped heart]

It's easy if your dedicated to grinding gems, then it can be used to buy bps and mats in certain events

If your not dedicated then use 💳

[white tapir]

Bro Sun Prime barely got nerfed, they just made it so effects which reduce skill damage now reduce skill/smite/combo

[spark moat]

5551 first i see

[white tapir]

And his talent tree got a buff for one of the smite talents

[smoky zodiac]

fr?

ok so its not to bad

[spark moat]

lilith adjusting some stuff in updates soon?

[white tapir]

Yeah you're fine, he'll still be the #2 comm behind Qin

[smoky zodiac]

but bro i feel like by the time i Expertise hes gonna be garbage

[spark moat]

just read it quickly

[spark moat]

5551

[abstract kayak]

does anyone know when the spring events start? I got told it will start around a week after the update. Is this true?

[spark moat]

380 gh

or so

[white tapir]

Main thing is making things which reduce skill damage effect smite and combo too

[smoky zodiac]

fr? I feel like I need expertise cause I already get killed in seconds in battle feild

[spark moat]

for first

[smoky zodiac]

Being F2P is a horrendous expereince

[spark moat]

yes i feel you

100%

[white tapir]

Expertise is pretty important

[warped heart]

It's most likely because you didn't try it, and if it does still feel garbage then the factors that affect that garbageness is gear, VIP, technology and iconic level

[smoky zodiac]

How do I get good gear I only have 1 legendary peice for infantry

[white tapir]

And yeah f2p is rly hard, gotta gather gems non stop and chain all the time to be competitive

[white tapir]

Oh that's why, you 100% need better gear before running him in the field

[smoky zodiac]

yeah and with a very old account I cant even migrate to more balanced kingdoms

[warped heart]

Mine gems

[spark moat]

but peple is mostly comparing small margins...... all about field control , activity , organization and well leaded leadship can be give better trades !

[warped heart]

Idk, probably cause you have low power and kp

[smoky zodiac]

So my priorites for spending gems would be VIP/Castle/Equipment

[warped heart]

Better to restart honestly

[smoky zodiac]

its impossible to get KP when I have no troops that can do anything

[smoky zodiac]

Bro I thought about this but I put in so much time idk how to even do this

[spark moat]

@smoky zodiac

stay solid in battle field

helps

[warped heart]

Search up firefly rok on YouTube, serve that as a guide

[smoky zodiac]

i mean yeha its hard ot get good trades when people have maxxed crystal tech to

[white tapir]

Restart would give you the experience of being competitive quicker than trying to work on your own account, but if you rly don't want to then you'll prolly have to be a semi-deadweight for a bit while farming gems and chaining

[spark moat]

yes ik that better to run away if you seen those

[white tapir]

And don't focus on gems for castle, very unimportant since you'll get enough books from forts long term

[spark moat]

450k marches trades goes terrible

[smoky zodiac]

so I just basicly gotta handle being weak until I get like T5?

[warped heart]

Depends how dedicated you are in getting T5

[smoky zodiac]

yeah Im thinking of just commiting to grinding forts in off season

[white tapir]

T5 won't help since it takes a crap ton of rss and speeds to heal, focus on equipment and vip

[warped heart]

Most f2p I know quit being f2p after pulling their 💳

[white tapir]

There is a mtg this weekend

[smoky zodiac]

Do high level forts not even give books because its not on their rewards thing

[spark moat]

yes T5 drives bankrupty hahahaha

whit bad coms

[white tapir]

They do

[spark moat]

thats why stay solid and follow team plan

[smoky zodiac]

I mean to unlock T5 you would also have to unlock alot of previus techs so I mean ill be weak until the time I have like T5

[warped heart]

Wym it helps? I sure it takes a cfap ton fo rss and speeds but it does lessen the burden of not investing much on tech

[white tapir]

It won't help if your gear isn't strong enough and comms not expertise

[spark moat]

T4 and T5 diffrence not that big but technology makes sense

[smoky zodiac]

Bro are any of you guys spenders with extra flux that might lowk help me with VIP alot 😭

[spark moat]

• fkn crystal tech

[smoky zodiac]

yeah exactly

[spark moat]

not problem lately

[warped heart]

No

[smoky zodiac]

WE are all broke on gems

I extremely regret my Sun Tzu prime invesment now lowk

those gems coulda went to VIP

[warped heart]

Vip actually helped me due to daily 3 ghs

[smoky zodiac]

yeah im still stuck at 2

makes a big diffrence to have that one extra

[dense sorrel]

Why are u still vip 14 as a t5 bro

💀

[icy reef]

f2p gang

[warped heart]

What can I do about it when I used most of my gems on gear and commander recruiting

Mostly gear

[dense sorrel]

🥀

U can jst stick with one march

Until kvk 5 or some

[warped heart]

Then I can't get alot of kp

[dense sorrel]

Create 10 farms - go do some selings

[warped heart]

I already have like 2 sets done, my 1 set is still on progress

[icy reef]

thats not f2p anymore

[dense sorrel]

✌️ 🥀

[icy reef]

you're selling your time at that point

[dense sorrel]

Im a full f2p

But people give me fluxs

Im like 25m pow and somehow at vip 14 in kvk 2 rn

[spark moat]

was aboutn to ask does guiness book or lilith stats know zone3 gem farming will hit 5k gem in day

or 6k

not today XD

[elfin valley]

@warped heart you need vip 16 tho

-10% heal cost

[warped heart]

I'm kinda broke 💀

[spark moat]

vip 16 took here too own time as f2p or very lil spender

some way to go 17

[elfin valley]

I’m close-ish to 18

[spark moat]

not spent gem for it a while .....

sweet

[elfin valley]

230k away

yeah i don’t spend gems on it

and my alliance isn’t spending really except me gc wise

[icy reef]

do kds fall off a cliff spending wise in soc?

compared to early game

[elfin valley]

yes

[icy reef]

im gonna miss the gcs from the krakens 😔

[elfin valley]

theres less incentive to buy

[icy reef]

this one dude has been dropping like the entire store every day

[spark moat]

T5 and vip15

[elfin valley]

if they’re actually krakens

they’ll continue

but if they just want max tech they’ll stop

[icy reef]

lets goo

[dense sorrel]

There arent much of a gap between a casual player and a whale in kvk 3

[elfin valley]

there is

[icy reef]

wdym

[dense sorrel]

The only thing different is crystal tech and their vip gap

[elfin valley]

crystal tech is huge gap

in kvk 4

[icy reef]

there are players in kvk4 with 30b kp with max crystal tech 5+ marches

[dense sorrel]

Thats why u gotta go to a lowseed if ur a f2p

[elfin valley]

you can’t get to max troop capacity as f2p generally

[icy reef]

😭

wdym theres no gap

[spark moat]

you guys still comparing margins but im tired to reply myself

[elfin valley]

with new tech as f2p you can get tech to have 400,000 march easily

so it’s a little better

stats’ll be rough still though!

[spark moat]

ye can get solid tech as f2p

no prob

[dense sorrel]

Imma just gotta migrate to a high C seed in kvk 4

[spark moat]

stay active thats all

[warped heart]

There is

[dense sorrel]

When i get there

[dense sorrel]

I mean in kvk 3

[warped heart]

Imagine you have same gear with gg and achilles both expertise, which is better f2p who is barely touching hp tech or p2w who spends and just recently maxes hp tech

Of course the p2w wins

[dense sorrel]

Bro ofc

I said not much of a gap

[elfin valley]

In the ball

There’s 0 gap

Between 1 whale and 1 f2p player

[dense sorrel]

True

[elfin valley]

You can’t get the same report

But

You can get the same trade ratio

[dense sorrel]

Especially its kvk 3 the farming kvk

[elfin valley]

Just fight good lol

[dense sorrel]

The whales cant just pull 5 marches on u in ruins

[elfin valley]

Not hard

[warped heart]

Just he cowardly

[elfin valley]

I used Alex YSG in kvk before the whole swap thing happened

kvk 3

[icy reef]

imma be a full time farmer in kvk3

[elfin valley]

And traded 5:1 always lol

[icy reef]

cant wait to unlock more chaining marches

[elfin valley]

Now my gear was all crit, but it’s alex vs soc commanders, this was back when soc to kvk 2 migration existed

[spark moat]

alex was pretty solid here

and quite fast too

[warped heart]

Nah he melted too fast

[spark moat]

yes legendary pair

[warped heart]

Sure he's fast, but stat wise he's worst

[spark moat]

i used alex cm

Edward woodstock bigger bad ass here

but no skills longer

[dense sorrel]

They swarmed u ?

Or u was a key ?

[spark moat]

yes and field control

uptime and start pushing them back

raised morale nicley too so perfectly timing

3v5 kvk wasnt easy z5

[coarse knoll]

Guys are dead troops return a few days after kvk ends

Or when

[elfin valley]

he’d be great if his skill cost 1000

lmao

health+ march speed

[elfin valley]

in kvk 2

[elfin valley]

i wonder can vip support help me get r5 of inactive alliances where every single member is inactive but the door is locked 🤔

[slate saddle]

what should i buy in campaign shop

is there a recommended one to buy

[rose narwhal]

Aeth heads

[slate saddle]

what should i change

[slate saddle]

is thst good

[rose narwhal]

The aeth heads? Sure

[timber trail]

yo so my kd 4043 opened about 24 hrs ago

would we get mtg thats on the 28th?

[rose narwhal]

Nope

[timber trail]

its every 26 days right?

should i get vip 10 rn and do mtg later or wait for it

[rose narwhal]

Not necessarily, it's once a month roughly but it can be delayed

[rose narwhal]

The sooner the better if u can rn go for it and start saving GHs

MTG shouldn't show up for KDs below 21 days old so if you wait you'd have to wait for next

[timber trail]

Alr

I can get vip 10 rn

And it would take atleast 30 days for mtg to pop for us

[rose narwhal]

Pretty much

[timber trail]

Meaning id gain value of 4 ghs from vip 10 ig

[rose narwhal]

It can always get delayed tho that's the thing with MTG

But I mean for such a small difference your call really

[timber trail]

Every gh counts so

Alr thanks for the advice

[rose narwhal]

Tbh wait for someone else to answer to be fully sure, it's 6 AM and I've not slept so I'm doubting myself

[timber trail]

Ive gotten the same answer from someone else so i trust that your correct

And i dont think it would come the day the kd is eligible

[rose narwhal]

I mean as a rule of thumb global events don't come to KDs below certain age

[rose narwhal]

No definitely not

[timber trail]

Alr

Ty

[rose narwhal]

That much I can tell you fs

[rose narwhal]

[timber trail]

👍

[dark mason]

statistically, what pair is better sun + aethel or bjorn+ sun?

[rose narwhal]

Sun Aethel, Aeths debuff is way more significant, hits more targets and also deals aoe damage while at that

[dark mason]

then if im going sun aethel whos better pair with my bjorn i just expertised him yesterday and im thinking i wanna use him aswell

[rose narwhal]

Not really anyone, he's only usable with Sun Tzu other than that he's pretty bad, and Bjorn Sun is a fairly mid march

You're better off not using him

[dark mason]

oof

[dark mason]

what other epic commander i can use

im inf main so if none im just gonna stick with sun aeth

[rose narwhal]

For the better

[dark mason]

what about cm 5511?

[rose narwhal]

You could use him to that naturally with golden keys yeah

[dark mason]

who do i pair him with

[lean matrix]

Is this one any good? Seems buns I’m gonna be honest

[dark mason]

also my cm is currently 5111

[rose narwhal]

Sun Tzu 😂 or YSG if u expertise

[dark mason]

damn sun also

[rose narwhal]

He's very good aye

What can I say

[dark mason]

welp just gonna stick with sun aeth

thanks tho

[lean matrix]

^

[void snow]

Please, why can't I teleport to my alliance territory?

Hello?

[rose narwhal]

It's not built

[void snow]

You mean?

[rose narwhal]

And as such you don't own the passes which is what it's saying

[rose narwhal]

You need the alliance territory to build in order to TP

[void snow]

That is my alliance territory

[rose narwhal]

It's not built tho

The fortress or the flag isn't built

So if they're not built you need to at least own the passes, which you don't, so you can't teleport until the territory is built

[void snow]

What is meant by "access point"?

[rose narwhal]

A pass I guess

[void snow]

Does that mean I have to ask the alliance leader for permission?

[warped heart]

If you don't have hunter, sure
Then you need to reconfigure your talent tree to a more damage focused one instead of rage gain cause you got crazed

[rose narwhal]

No, just let the territory build and you'll be able to teleport

[void snow]

What level should I reach?

[rose narwhal]

Wdym

[icy reef]

are drums bad ?

I have a blueprint from last egg for it but my friend is telling me not to make it

I have 1 march inf golden minus accessories + 140 leg mats waiting for my next march pre kvk2 rn

am i about to cook my account

[unborn helm]

Depends on context, most people do just fine on just horn ring pairs

But you can justify 3 drums in the lineup

[elfin valley]

the 1 march game is meta right now

upgrade your main set

only once it’s at a high level start another set

everything iconic 2 prolly fine

save for ring / horn

drums is for much later when you have multiple good marches

[native sable]

Gold stars and legendary commander heads, always have 5k ish on hand. Then Constance heads until skill 4 and 2 are max. Then Aethelflaed heads

[native sable]

What you can do is CM Sun and Baibars Aethel. But i would stick to a single march (SunAethel) if very low spend/ftp

[native sable]

Very good as it procs every other turn for QSH

Coooldown states 2sec but it counts on the turn it procs, so in reality its 1sec somehow

[native sable]

Drums need 3 to be better than horn. This is a huge requirement for lowspends that i wouldnt advice for.

[dawn otter]

can i do auto peacekeeping 24/7 as long as i have ap??

[native sable]

And if you let the game open. Yes. Also i think there is a cap to how much AP/Barb one can kill in a single session

[dawn otter]

Is that decent for marauders, or should I do it manually so all my marches land at the same time?

[native sable]

The autopeacekeeping feature make faster marches wait for slower marches

Then regarding marauder, im kinda a hater and prefer LK barbs

[dense sorrel]

Should i get qinshihoan and hera for barb chaining in kvk 3

I mean im a infantry main tho

[dawn otter]

I ve got around 250k ap so i dont think i will have the time to spend them on barbs saddly

[tiny citrus]

important question
if i have let's say 2 characters in 4040
make 1 in 4046
and immigrate 2 accounts from 4040
to 4046
will i have 3 accounts or will it make me delete 1

[icy reef]

Keep 3

You can do a lot of farms in 1 kd 1 email this way

Guys should I abandon my native account and get an account from wontrade? Im getting tempted by the freaks who keep mentioning it 😭

[native sable]

The only limit is at creation. But by migrating, there is no limit to how many character one account can have in a single kingdom

[native sable]

Everyone should get QSH.
As for chaining, he is not the best as his AOE tends to drop off. It works, but its tedious

[native sable]

Season + vip and number of viable (full legi gear) march ?

[icy reef]

Pre kvk2 1 infantry gold march minus accessories + 140 leg mats/600 gh, vip 15 really close to 16

Account age feels unsurmountable atm, im only playing since if I bought a soc account I wouldnt have any farms for it

[native sable]

Why the fck would you want to ditch such a good account ?

[icy reef]

meh

Account age mostly

I cant catch up to ppl with years on account and ik theres always a bigger fish

[native sable]

You can check wontrade if there is some good account within your budget. But i bet they all have some flaws that need work to fix.

Aka doesnt hurt to look

[icy reef]

They look terrible 😭

Im still waiting for a good one, either have no speeds terrible comms or bad gear

[native sable]

Thats to be expected, people with good account tend to be dedicated to the game, unlikely they would ever sell their account.

[tiny citrus]

alright thanks

[covert quest]

Is the ottoman wmpire strong

[native sable]

Fell off since addition of smite/combo damage.
But even then, France was still better for low spends that runs farms

[split epoch]

Should i do it ? Or should i continue expertising bq i got bq on 5443

[native sable]

BQ is usable at 5511. Who are you pairing him with ?

[split epoch]

I want to pair bq with p sun tzu

Thats why im asking

[native sable]

You did not answer my question, who is the current pair ?

[split epoch]

Bq with liu

[native sable]

Is Liu expertised ? If not, how is he ?

[split epoch]

Uhmm well i didn’t use much goldheads on liu i got him on 2111 i was only concentrating on bq to expertise him

[native sable]

Ok so you are NOT pairing BQ with LC lol.
In that case yes investing on Sun is a good choice. You want to target 5515. Before using the march

And youll have to max BQ's second skill eventually

[split epoch]

Alr i will use my gold heads for sun

Thanks

[covert quest]

Are the jannisarries good

[native sable]

Mariannu (egypt) would be the best special unit. But tbh the difference is inexistant. Just pick which skin you prefer

[covert quest]

Is arabia a good empire

[native sable]

Cav rally meta

But again, non rally/garri player should stick to France (arguably germany)

[novel crescent]

When should I use transmutation stone ?

[split epoch]

Hey another question is there any trick to reach 5515 because i don’t have that much luck to reach 5515

[native sable]

Picking a god and praying

[fathom basalt]

which kingdom?

[native sable]

Arguably the youngest one. But you probably should contact kings

[fathom basalt]

eh doesn’t matter i just joined the alliance to get a few rewards

[native sable]

On rare+ inscription

[fathom basalt]

but alright thanks.

[novel crescent]

Which inscription should I have as a cav main?

For arthur

[visual sedge]

I have 7 resets

Good?

[covert quest]

How often are new commanders added

[unborn egret]

What's better for field : Sun Tzu + LC or Sun Tzu + BQ?

[visual sedge]

Bq

If i do zun and bq what do i do with my lc? Or u said in dms matt mattah

[rocky rock]

Anyone know which bundles to buy to get t4 day1 for early game

[unborn egret]

I mean need best march with these 3 commanders,haven't set for second pair.

[visual sedge]

What

If the civ base stats unit changes are very minor,

Do the iconic level of eq matter? The one with base stat

Cos it give even less base stat that the civ unit xd

[native sable]

Arguably BQ/LC

[warped heart]

Could do lc Philip if you want, bq Philip is much better though

[native sable]

~70 days

[covert quest]

Damn

I’m stufk with cao cao and minamoto

[visual sedge]

Bq is for sun

[cunning oar]

on new kd, they appears after kd reache 7 days or so

Other golden keys appear

[novel crescent]

Is the cristal tech saved for the next kvk?

[native sable]

No, resets at the end of the kvk

[native sable]

This doesnt apply to new kingdom. Your question was unclear i think.

[small pebble]

is 100M kp a lot for a f2p in kvk 1? my first time playing the game so idk

i got 14M kp from the first 2 ruins fights

but the enemy did leave early on the 2nd fight

[warped heart]

Sun lc and BQ Philip if you want better performance and both marches have balanced performance

[warped heart]

Yes

[warped heart]

Your in early game ig, if your not and your in soc then it's better to restart

[small pebble]

these are some of my reports are they good trades?

some guys in alliance chat were talking abt like 1:10 and thats craaazy

[marble stratus]

how can i repeat kvk 2

[warped heart]

Yeah it's insanely crazy, overall a 500% report

[small pebble]

also 2nd ruins i used a diff march instead of sun tzu aeth 5/5 i used sun tzu ysg 5/5/3/5 he is still better even tho he isn't exp right?

[warped heart]

He's better than sun aeth due to his 1st active skill(higher than aeth) and 4th skill (50% skill damage) so it's expected to perform better but it would've been better to have it expertise for more effectiveness (circular aoe)

I'd say it's worth it

[small pebble]

i will try to get him exp by kingsland

[novel crescent]

Be afk for a very long time they will allow you to join migration team

[warped heart]

Nice good luck on your journey ♥️

[mental walrus]

Not really

[marble stratus]

Guys i have exp ysg and have 300 heads im inf main what can i do in kvk 2

[novel crescent]

Don’t use them

[marble stratus]

should i invest alex ?

[novel crescent]

Keep them for Bai qi in soc

[mental walrus]

Saves

[warped heart]

Why

[small pebble]

Thanks bro <3 having lots of fun in this game

[mental walrus]

Because Lc has a better kit and has better synergy with him

[warped heart]

BQ Philip with whatever thingy buff aoe go brrr

[warped heart]

Awh

[mental walrus]

No

[marble stratus]

so i will play with sun tzu ysg in kvk 2

[warped heart]

Which 2 inf march does better
BQ Philip + sun p lc
Or
LC Philip + sun P bq

[marble stratus]

or 5 5 cm

[mental walrus]

Sure

[mental walrus]

Second

[mental walrus]

Your choice of more damage or more Tanky

[warped heart]

Your contradicting dom's meta list

[mental walrus]

Ok

[marble stratus]

thanks guys

So im going to save my gh's for soc comms right ?

[warped heart]

Bro doesn't care 🥀✌️

[mental walrus]

Yes

[marble stratus]

is it good to swap ysg with liu che and use my gh s to BQ

[novel crescent]

Absolutely

[covert quest]

Wdym

[marble stratus]

okey bro thanks

[visual sedge]

Okay

[tame acorn]

Hey guys how much is left for the egg event

[visual sedge]

Bcs i wanna run only infantry before i get the best archer in game ( first sun tzu cos only 5515 needed )

till that im gonna use inf only

[warped heart]

I retract my statement
Try to use sun BQ and lc Philip, if it works performance wise then use ir

[visual sedge]

okay

[tame acorn]

❓

[native sable]

YSG s active skill alone is weaker than Aethel due to target drop off. Thats why you want YSG s 4th maxed before considering swapping them.

[native sable]

Who is dom ?

[native sable]

Commander release != Getting access to existing commanders

[rigid stratus]

When i will unlock all the leg units ?

[covert quest]

Thak you

[errant copper]

Can you utilise achillies that's not expertised ?

I currently have an almost expertised Joan prime & nevsky.

Expertised Huo, Arthur

I was wondering if I could pair Arthur with achillies and maybe huo Joan

I feel like i'm losing out on damage on huo Arthur because i'm running wedge formation when Arthur is combo

[celest apex]

К кому можно в королевство залететь? В игру вернулся хочу поиграть

[native sable]

Legendary commanders ? Inbetween kvk2 and 3. You will have a commander swap event alongside gathering of heroes

[native sable]

Achilles usable at 5551 but his expertise his very transformative

[rigid stratus]

What is kvk2 and commander swap ?

[native sable]

Kvk = kingdom vs kingdom.
Wait, how old is your kingdom ?
Cause new kingdom get access to the full "gold key commander" pool after 7ish days.

[warped heart]

For aeth, 800 x 5 = 4000 total damage dished out if 5 units are hit
For ysg, (1400 x (.15 x 5)) x 5 = 5250 total damage dished out IF 5 units are hit
This is without 50% skill damage
The reason most people suggest that to expertise ysg is to effectively hit 5 targets, in a scenario where you constantly hit 5 targets is a win

[rigid stratus]

I think its my 7th day today so i can summon for leg commender in chest rn ?

[warped heart]

5551 is decent to use if your running out of heads

[warped heart]

The gap between aeth and ysg is like 30% ish, in terms of total damage in skill

[native sable]

Yeah but you failed your math sir.
1400 x .5 (reduction) x 5 (target) = 700x5 = 3500

[warped heart]

@mental walrus help me 🙏

[native sable]

You know the max reduction per target is 50% right ?

[warped heart]

Think so idk

Well that sounds correct

[rigid stratus]

I think its my 7th day today so i can summon for leg commender in chest rn ?

[warped heart]

I guess that's one variable I missed

Now it make sense

[native sable]

Anyway you did one big mistake:
Its not x (.15 x 5)
Its x ( 1- (.15 x5))

But its capped at 50% so x (1-.5)

[native sable]

Just check the tavern and see what in the pool

[mental walrus]

Ur wrong bud

[rigid stratus]

There are only cao cao so i can t anything else ?

[lunar musk]

Youre missing one thing

That assumes you hit 5 target all the time no?

[native sable]

Then wait

[lunar musk]

At 1-3 targets for example ysg more than outdoes aeth

[rigid stratus]

Ok thx

[lunar musk]

You wont hit 5 targets 100% of the time

Just to add 2 cents to the convo

[native sable]

"more than outdoes" is a bit extreme dont you think ?
Also 90% stat reduction pal

[lunar musk]

For 2 secs

And it doesnt lineup with ur active skills

[native sable]

But yes, the calculation is favor Aethel the more target obviously has she has no target drop off

[native sable]

It does with your teamates and you line up with theirs

[lunar musk]

I mean we are comparing the single best kvk1, one of the best kvk2 and still soc meta commander to fking aeth

But yeah

[native sable]

Peep needs to stop thinking gaslighted by youtubers.

Thing will never like up perfectly nor never line up

[lunar musk]

Im not being gaslit by anything lol

[native sable]

Marches desync with each other

Teamates

Etc.

[lunar musk]

Thats an argument against aeth

Ysg is consistant, aeth is not

[native sable]

Tons of Aethel is

[lunar musk]

Besides 5535 ysg if im getting the original convo correctly also buffs sun tzu a lot

[native sable]

Yes 5535 completely trumps Aethel

[lunar musk]

Whats the argument then

[native sable]

And following my own logic, 1 or 2 less aethel doesnt matter, the debuff will be there

[lunar musk]

That at 5111 who is better?

[native sable]

Thats was my point yes

[lunar musk]

Still say ysg since you get a flat 20% skill damage bonus and some decent rage engine

But ur comparing garbage to trash

So tbh doesnt matter

[fringe turret]

Is it worth buying the 10 levels in the event Jeweler's Jaunt?

[native sable]

Deep down, aethel simps are crying

[lunar musk]

Aeth still carries low spenfers and f2ps

[native sable]

5111 aethel is near 90% power

[lunar musk]

People need to start realizing the value of commanders in their own roles, not outside their roles

[lunar musk]

Eh the 2nd skill is underrated

Same w expertise

[native sable]

Hence i said 90% not 95

5% for each

[lunar musk]

Still doesnt matter anyway shes 5511 for free before u know it lol

[junior oyster]

what are pre kvk events?

its kvk 1 soon and this is what i saved

and like 70k ap

[native sable]

Marauder killing, troop training and marauder fort killing.

[junior oyster]

if i use 70k ap there or possibly more what can i get?

and should i use universal speedups for troop training?

[native sable]

No cause 9days of healing means you will have max one full hospital worth of healing lol

[junior oyster]

i never used healing speedup tho

[elfin valley]

bro

he’s saying save your speedups for healing

because you can’t just use all your universals on training and have none to heal with

[elfin valley]

lots of 3,8,15,24 and some 3 day speedups

on marauders

[native sable]

"lots" is subjective tbh

Better value chaining in LostKingdom

[lean matrix]

What is crazed?

[native sable]

A decent rare inscription for wedge scrolls

@tacit mist turns out next seasonnal event is 7k gems event

Im all for 7k gems - esme prayer, 2event cycle

[lean matrix]

Lmao yeah just realized it was the name of the armament I was asking about😭

Do you think I need to change talent tree like he said

Would I be generating to much rage

[native sable]

Been there, done a fool of myself that

[native sable]

Whats the pair and gear of your QSH ?

[lean matrix]

QSH ZL

[native sable]

Well, QSH ZL generate so much rage that you donc even need rejuvenate

I have a 30min video uncovering the hidden rage mechanic of QSH

[lean matrix]

Ring on someone else rn

[native sable]

Thats what ive been running

But with the nerf to naked rage ill probably make adjustment

[lean matrix]

Oh wow okay, so I’m assuming I probably don’t even need the armament than?

[native sable]

This build really thin on rage tho, if you get target too much, you do will starve as QSH will consume to protect himself.

Nah, its nice to have a tiny bit more rage tbh

Just to feed that defens mechanic of QSH

Il thinking this post patch:

Less damage, more MS

[lean matrix]

I’m going to be honest understanding QSH mechanics is beyond me 😭 I’ll run whatever you tell me

[native sable]

But for my specific case ( iconic5 boots), it might not be the play as my ball is very close from each other (except dumb cavs)

[lean matrix]

Cavs always running away 😂

[wanton python]

Anyone know where I can find out why I am muted on the game

[tacit mist]

They listened to my wishes. My only hope is that it doesn't come for new kds since I joined a restart recently so I can focus more on the event

[native sable]

Kingdoms below 21ish days age are uneligible for events

[tacit mist]

Awesome

[native sable]

In game support (as stated in #☕〡general )

[tacit mist]

I was about to spend gems on stp wheel

Thanks lilith

[native sable]

Wheel .... I wonder if i will ever use those 60+ ticket ive been slowly accumulating by buying 50% discounted ones lol

[tacit mist]

I have been thinking ten times before spending gems anywhere

All for the egg event

[native sable]

Egg is the moove tbh (after vip and seasonnal events)

[tacit mist]

25k gems should get me one bp

Yeahhh

[marble stratus]

If I repeat KVK 2, can I do it when the trade event comes out?

[elfin valley]

yes

but you won’t get a second swap

and if you repeat kvk 2 without commanders to use what’s the point just play kvk 3 then go to kvk 2

[native sable]

Might be impossible with the new rules lilith is about to enforce

[granite raven]

Could I use exp barca to commander swap or no

[mighty viper]

I don’t believe so, but getting that commander is kinda dumb in the first place

[limber scroll]

Yeah, VIP commanders & Aethelflaed cannot be swapped

[heavy bolt]

How good are the expedition expert $100 bundles

[granite raven]

Dont have him exped was asking just incase so I would max him if it would work

[mighty viper]

It would not, and tbh doing so would waste money

[high linden]

they're pretty decent

[visual sedge]

@native sable

What do i spend money on

[mighty viper]

That’s not a question with a singular answer

[lunar musk]

Gem supply

Lucerne scrolls

Id say growth fund but chances are old owner bought it already

[cunning oar]

great chances

[visual sedge]

😂

[visual sedge]

Whats that

So i dont buy ghs?

[molten thicket]

do we have the exact date of zenith?

[mighty viper]

No

[molten thicket]

when it should be out then

mid march?

[lunar musk]

Depends on spend level

[visual sedge]

Low spender

If a whale wants to sponsor me i agree tho

[minor fable]

Yo

What’s the Ramadan code?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </codes:1374685187602120775>

[minor fable]

It’s not there

[high linden]

rokrmdan26

[elfin valley]

his only purpose is a tank march in canyon kvk 1-2

[elfin valley]

maybe it’s a st patrick’s zenith

[minor fable]

Thanks

[slate saddle]

Whats the best civilization to start

[visual sedge]

China ig?

[mighty viper]

China, always China

[marble stratus]

Hello these are my commanders rn i play as a inf main i have 300 gh should i invest alex or save my gh's for soc comms

[native sable]

Save

[mighty viper]

Save, Alex is kinda trash ngl

[keen crater]

@modest vigil

[mighty viper]

That’s a bot, it won’t react to you pinging it

[eager fern]

Is it worth getting Minamoto? I'm free-to-play.

[mighty viper]

He is impossible to get as a F2P

[rose narwhal]

I guess he's asking whether it's worth to get him as a one time thing

[eager fern]

But I mean, if I buy it, is it worth having without spending more money?

[rose narwhal]

And the answer to that is no anyway

[eager fern]

thanks

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[late ledge]

I can migrate whenever i want or when exactly?

[rose narwhal]

Which season?

[late ledge]

Preparation

[rose narwhal]

As long as your kingdom is 10 days old and your target kingdom isn't more than 10 days younger than your starting kingdom u can migrate

[mighty viper]

It costs about $200 for it to be worth it

[rose narwhal]

Not really 5511 is 36$ roughly? but still not something someone who doesn't spend should be focusing on

[mighty viper]

Yeah

[late ledge]

What if my kingdom is 20 days old and want to do smth like sleeping but idh the migrate card

I can migrate whenever i get it to kingdom 10 days younger in anytime?

[native sable]

No passport = no migrating, period

[rose narwhal]

Doesn't change the requirement, you would he able to migrate to a kingdom within a 10 day window from your starting kingdom

Which means, no u can't go to a brand new KD reaching 10 days old if your starting kingdom is on day 30

[late ledge]

Even if my kingdom 20 days old?

[rose narwhal]

In that case yes as long as there's no more than 10 days difference between your starting and your target kingdom

So, let's say your kingdom is 20 days old now

[late ledge]

Oh okay i got it

[rose narwhal]

In 10 days it will be 30 days old, which means you can go back to a KD that's 20 days old instead of 10

[late ledge]

Do u suggest me to migrate? There is alot of people migrated to my kingdom and im weakest now

[rose narwhal]

Yeah if you can do a sleeper that's probably for the best, specially if you're very behind in your kingdoms power

Will give u a nice advantage over natives accounts

[late ledge]

Ig im bad

Im 900k power

In 18 days

F2p

That’s really bad isn’t it?

[rose narwhal]

I would say it's below average, salvageable but you're starting to be very behind

You might wanna consider trying again

It's not too bad but if you don't step it up it will call for a restart later on tbh

[mighty viper]

Probably below average but “good” and “bad” are both relative and a bit subjective as well

[late ledge]

Hmm

[late ledge]

So better choice is to start new character

[mighty viper]

Probably

[late ledge]

Okay start new character with china and i will focus on son tzu and aeth and some gathering commanders?

[rose narwhal]

You're in a situation in which you either step it up or else in the near future you will have wasted time unnecessarily, I would advise to restart in a project if you can find one

[late ledge]

Im lost

[rose narwhal]

There's one in 4069 now if you wanna wait for it, starting as a sleeper in a project will be much better than going solo

[late ledge]

I will restart as i see

[late ledge]

Okay i will wait for it

[late ledge]

Any advices to rework what have i done?

[rose narwhal]

Can you show us your account overall, with commanders, power spread, tech and such?

[lean matrix]

Equipment refund event?

Any news

[rose narwhal]

Nope not that I'm aware of

[lean matrix]

Dang, I really thought I heard about it like two months ago

[rose narwhal]

We all did but nothing about it yet though I don't think

[rose narwhal]

Aight do you have farms? And are u fully f2p?

[lean matrix]

Ah so at least I’m not making it up

[late ledge]

Yes

[lean matrix]

I need it 😭

[rose narwhal]

Nah you're not

[late ledge]

1 farm in the same kingdom

[rose narwhal]

Yes to both?

[late ledge]

Yes to both

[rose narwhal]

Aight so

What's your vengeance level?

[late ledge]

377

[native sable]

Few peacekeepers, then gatherer, THEN sun and Aethel

[late ledge]

[rose narwhal]

Alright so let's begin there, when you join a restart project and first start as a sleeper don't go past level 200, stay at level 199, push CH 11, if you wanna do expedition, enter through the sunset canyon daily quest

Obviously, push CH 16 ASAP, and make farms, in the same KD and if you need do them on a new email, make your main and one farm on your starting KD and farm credits, spend your daily AP on barbs for necklaces and at the end of the event spend all your AP on blue Lohar rallies, with enough luck this puts you on CH 16 and 800ish thousand power on day 6?

[late ledge]

Ngl i have to translate this

[rose narwhal]

Clear fog within 2 or 3 days if you can and all high and medium caves

[rose narwhal]

Aight one second lol

[late ledge]

I don’t know what is Ap and ch

Sry

[rose narwhal]

Action points and city hall

[late ledge]

Okay okay

[rose narwhal]

AP = the green bar under your pfp and the bottles that give it

[late ledge]

Ik what is action points

Continue

[rose narwhal]

Back to vengeance, rewards drop heavily after level 200, so you'd wanna stay on it for as long as you can and push forward the very last day in order to maximize rewards

Stay on it as in stay on level 199

[late ledge]

That’s why it gives me dry rewards

[rose narwhal]

After you do at least one farm on your sleeper KD alongside your main, do 2 more farms in the target kingdom and migrate the one on the starting KD later on so you have at least 3 farms

That should be enough to get u by, of course the more the better but don't overextend too much either or you'll get brunt out

Burnt,

[late ledge]

Okay

And i have to find good alliance

[rose narwhal]

Tech wise I don't really see anything that could be fixed easy, you wanna research engineering and mathematics asap and definitely have it maxed before u research T4, it saves A LOT of time

[late ledge]

Or i can make my ownV

?

[late ledge]

Okay

[rose narwhal]

The point of the sleeper project is that you're asiganted in an alliance, they will probably do slow builds and what not so you don't have to pay for the passport

[rose narwhal]

Nah, since you're joining a project you join whichever alliance they put you in, you should get holy site rewards in the best of the cases as well so they should help you a lot too

[late ledge]

Okay

What about the commanders again

[rose narwhal]

Gem wise, push for vip 6 for that second permanent building qeue, you can later do level 8 if you wish before you save gems and push for vip 10

[rose narwhal]

Sun Aeth as your main march, get Sun to 60 and aeth to 30 with 4 skill unlocked

[late ledge]

Fahd sense said smth like i have to upgrade only during an event or smth

?

[rose narwhal]

It's important that you get lohar and you use him for barbs when you do the rallies for him

[rose narwhal]

Sorry?

[late ledge]

The event name is more with gems or smth

Idk

More of gems

[rose narwhal]

You can slap a gatherer behind lohar and level them up a bit like that, start with green ones, then blue and epic ones, and leave them at level 37 since that's all they need for the maxed gathering tree

[rose narwhal]

Yeah, if you're asking about the event I'm referring to more than gems

[late ledge]

Yh yh this

[late ledge]

Isn’t blue and green lohar are hard ?

And need more than one to start

[rose narwhal]

U wanna do blue only tbh, green one is very meh, but no they're very very easy

[rose narwhal]

Yes they're rallies, but since you're gonna be on an alliance, everyone will do it too, or well, most will

[late ledge]

Okay

[rose narwhal]

Blue Lohar rewards are very gud early on to pass on them 🤷

[late ledge]

What is your power

[rose narwhal]

78M

[late ledge]

Huh that’s why u know alot of info

Thats alot

I will start bew character now

I will see what can i do

Stay on china right?

[rose narwhal]

I mean if you wanna use it as a test sure, but you should really look into joining a project, it's gonna help u a lot and it's a lot more organized

[rose narwhal]

Yep

[rose narwhal]

Not really

[late ledge]

[late ledge]

How do know its an project or normal kingdom

[rose narwhal]

You look for it in #1250017171145359381, it's basically a group of people that gather and get ready before they start tho, you wanna join one that hasn't started

But projects usually share name and tags

[late ledge]

Which should i join u said?

[rose narwhal]

I mean i cant recommend any since that would be advertising and that's breaking the rules but there is one in 4069, that's the closest one I know

[late ledge]

Where is the other experts i have more questions and i feel u got tired

[rose narwhal]

Nah not tired but I don't want another warning, I already have 2 ehm

[late ledge]

Like

Who host this projects and why

[rose narwhal]

Well it's people who wanna start over for X or Y reason, some want to be kings, some want to have a new account because they don't consider their last one good enough, some are just returning and don't have old accounts so they join one

[late ledge]

Mm