#❓〡questions
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Lmfao
Fr
me when i was 2m in kvk1
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i legit couldn't participate
RoK has different terms compared to IRL fighting
i got folded in 2 seconds
That's a different issue on its own
Good morning everyone
💀💀
Morning (night for me)
same
How i participate in giveaway events
Ok I also get slapped around in the field same way as how you describe it you just gotta know how to fight 
Click on the button below the giveaway to enter the giveaway
I try many times but useless
You've entered the giveaway. It's likely that you just didn't win the giveaway
Most likely
How i win
😭😭
Random
is bro of age
Thanks lol. Was loosing brain cells trying to simplify the explanation 
(no offense)
just call it an encirclement 
That’s not the term
so just call it a circle formation

It’s not a circle with a hole in the middle it’s more ball shaped
what
so
It's not about calling it the official IRL term. It's more about how the community refers to it now
So it would be inconvenient to switch a terms name just to allow it to correlate to the IRL term
You could say that
Yes, they try to pull each other into their formation to gain control of the field
It's just 2 balls that smash into each other and fight to the death
Exactly
so you're telling me the mainstream way of fighting in RoK is ineffective, unstrategical blob fighting???
That sounded way too sus
That's one of the ways to fight
it makes ppl need to use their brains
so you won't have brainless rich ppl winning every SoC
and you'll need ACTUAL commanders
that have ACTUAL plans when attacking a forest
Ball fighting requires brains. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who mindlessly wander out of formation 
it's just the basic intelligence needed to follow orders
The idea of forest combat doesn't sound that bad, but it just needs to be structured in a way in which it's balanced and brainless T5 whales can't exploit it to jump random armies
yes
im making a suggestion rn
cooking up formulas in desmos
Yeah there’s too much of that already

for the speed debuff formula rn

exactly
like
in the open field
Forest combat exists, but it's pve and it's called ceroli
there's little to no strategy
Maybe a mechanism to chop down forests? I don't know just something to balance it 
it's just
I don't want to get jumped more in altar battles
im making one rn
50 gem per tree chop?

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Yes help the whales make fighting even more miserable 
i cookde up a formula
ok so
rallies are usually
1.5 mil
when raiding cities
or forts
sooo
or passes
so
wait
do i have img perms?
k
this is what i have for the speed debuff formula for 1 normal march
its effect caps out around 100000 troops
rally is just 1 mil cap out
My brain is too foggy to calculate allat rn 
Same 
is ysg worth getting if I can only expertise him like 3 days after pass opening in kvk?
i could get him before but i kinda wanted to save some gems on his wheel and just use daily gh
Yes he has staying power into SOC
But the sooner the better obviously
meanwhile i can’t even calculate the amount of troops needed to take down a lvl 5 fort lol
Yk it tells you the recommend number? 
Nobody uses that 
@mighty viper i have 99 too many letters 😭
and this is after shortening my suggestion to
too*
Fair
And that’s my problem because? 
In what order should I open them? Please help
See the pinned messages
i fixed it
look at it
!
thanks
Cool
that downvote was personal
You’re welcome

No I still think the whole idea has serious conceptual flaws
just read it
trust me
it doesn't ruin how the game is played
i fixed the flaws of the previous idea
The flaw is that there’s a map feature that unnecessarily encumbers troops
Does this phase play by itself basically 🤔
no
read it
It’s only in home kingdoms? That would be hot garbage lol
it never said it's only in home kingdoms
Is gaining 25% attack but losing 10% defense worth it for Cao Cao?
just donn't use cao cao
Don’t use cao cao
they never did him justice 😔
if he was historically accurate he'd be too overpowered for RoK
you'd have to pay 500k and then 20k a year for him 🤤
I already have him build for secondary commander thought
5,2,5,4 I was thinking of using skill reset to try to change it to 5,1,5,5
Don’t use Cao Cao
If you invested universal sculptures they went to waste
Nah just a few early game cuz I didn’t know but I mostly bought a bunch of daily special offer
None of my other commanders are built thought I have him with Baybars
There’s better options lol
Bai/CaoCao is not a recommended pair
I already invested a lot in him though
I saw it on a bunch of tutorials baybars and Caocao
Tutorials?
But then they contradicted each other some said Baybar as primary some said Cao Cao as primary
Yeah
From who?
I was searching guides for Baybar and Cao Cao
One sec let me see
Chisgule but he recommends Cao Cao primary
I remember seeing someone else saying he recommends Baybar primary cuz it’s much cheaper
And someone else saying bc Baybar talent tree with skill is better
Chisgule primarily makes suggestions for whales
Ooh
Buy my Cao Cao skills are almost done
Expect for barbarian skill that’s level 2 it’s 5,2,5,4
I can’t afford Mina apparently it cost 280
Then you can’t afford Cao Cao
Isn’t he cheaper
So which commander should I use
Ok
Wait it’s kinda late into kvk 1 so I gotta keep using Caocao until after I can build others
You should probably restart tbh
lmao
I am joining a restart project but I’m not abandoning this one
Abandon it once you restart with the project
Well it really won’t be worth anything long term
Ik but I still wanna play with this account for awhile cuz I know a lot of people from my KD
It’s not too bad thought cuz I had a duel against someone with fully built Minamoto and Cao Cao march and it was pretty close
Duels don’t give one an accurate impression of an actual ball fight
Shouldn’t I have the upper hand for ball fights cuz Cao Cao and Baybar is fast af
How do I see that?
What skills have AOE?
Is that what u mean
Doesn’t show anything with AOE that’s the only non passive skill
Then there is none
So explain to me how this pair is better than Bai/Sun and the double AOE
Isn’t Sun for infantery I main cavalery
He has use in both, his AOE allows for that
Cao Cao also gives speed bonus I believe I need it to run away from the 50-200 million krakens in other KD
Are you sure this is KVK1?
Yeah ik lol
Another KD has multiple kraken at over 60 million so maybe they stand a chance
Yeah but I still wanna have some fun with this one while I can
That’s why I was asking if it would be worth it the +25% attack -10% defense for Cao Cao
Ok thanks
Just run with what you have and try to conserve resources
Ok
Guys , what do you think should be better for Arms training between Qsh/Zhuge Qsh/Shapur or Bq/liu ? I cab maybe use too caocao for heal or Hera for Shield ? (My archery set have some ico 5 and then he is better than my infantry gear)
Wait could I get commander advice for my restart account? I probably wanna main Cavalery again. Should I invest in legendary at all
Dont use healing commanders.
QSH boudica would actually be the best somehow. But not many players still have her. Qsh Zhuge is probably the best archers can bring ... But thats not the nest troop type ngl
I can’t afford Minamoto though 😭
Okay
Should I also build a legendary on the side that I can use once it’s built enough?
And what you think about bq/Hera for the shield ? Or bq/martel
Ok
I wanna buy minamoto and I dont know if I should use him for open field or barbs
If kvk1: both
If you rage load, yes
Buying minamoto won't do much for you, you gotta spend a couple hundred to expertise at which point he becomes excellent for barbs at any time and good for open field in the very early game
And im planning to stay in my kingdom
So both
If expertised
Keep in mind, he has a different talent build depending on what you want to do
Hold on ill check
You should use him secondary in openfield if paired with baibar anyway
I do mostly barbs so prob
How do I obtain skill reset item?
Usually lilith give access to one per year during seasonnal events (usually rok anniversary) or by spending a few buck during seasonal events
Tier 1 of spending event very often have one
So is there no way for me to just get one if I need it?
You can get it from recharge events
I believe there is one going on right now, check all the tiers at least one should include this as a reward
Ok thanks
When YSG wheel comes should you spin 240 times or 100?
do i need lvl 25 castle or watchtower for 25 academy?
You need all to 25 for academy 25 (one farm of each type is enough, no need for all 16)
4days
Does anyone have a arms Training guide of the order
Quoting myself:
New skills. Rule of thumb is healing last. Big damage amp as late as possible, small stat increases early
Does playing on pc or on mobile affect the gingerbread drop rate and showdown crit chance?
No
For arms training, it say units type countered is cav. So i should use inf or arch?
Inf has the best commander for lohar indeed. But archers are so bad you are still better off running cavs. At the end of the day it depend of where are your best gears
Best march is Wallace/LiuChe but if you have no gear (nor the commander) ....
Actually siege are the best sorry, but are epics strong enough ? Thats beyond my knowledge as im a siege hater
Cause you can kill lohar before he even touch you
not hating genuinely trying to understand why
Nothing beats that
Attack it from the other side of your city
I have huo art, bq lc
@mild sapphire bq lc
But bq only 5551
By the time lohar walks around you can easily kills the early levels
doesnt matter
its smart
a win for the siege players
especially if ur running gajah cordoba
instead of some skill dmg pair
u can use the cities to make him walk more. and take longer to hit you
cuz armsmaster lohars entire thing is skill dmg resistance
bruh
Ikr ... Im an archer main
thank god theres no siege players in my kingdom till i bring my filler in
well at least ur not countered
dont touched it
id love dearly to just use huo/arthur or smthn
Cavs so suited for it they re still better
Huo beli is probably the very best pair
speak of siege extremely weird question
what happens if a ranged march hits eleanor
does it proc eleanor active skill
yeah thats not someone i have
i have huo nevsky arthur
no blei
Let me check the trigger from eleanor, it might say melee basic attack
beli*
Juo nevski is nice.
if says 'basic attacks' does nothing
itd be hillarious if you were a siege march hitting randos and suddenly had a giant ass flower pop on your tower
says "hit by basic attack"
so does nothing at ranged
just stand there, taking arrows
says any type?
But the 3rd skill merely says she will activate her active, so she will fire it on her current target
lmao real?
i dont think it fires on current target
i think it fires on the source of basic
god we need to test it
It does cause thats how active skills works
u can compare the wording with lucky coin
not instaproc active skill
on eleanor
pretty sure it fires to whoever hits
Sun/Aethel good for sparring with lohar?
point being a little bit of antiswarm i guess
The on hit says "cast active skill" it doesnt say "cast active skill at target hitting you" or something
or Sun/Mina
For early game i guess, id run sun primary for better talents tho (unless sun is not lv60)
i swear i saw eleanor hitting to different targets with proc active skill when swarmed
First target likely died
Swarmers are small in comparison to a 100m city and active skills are uncapped
for this event
Sun mina better cause more active skill damage on mina
is on garrison, so u need hit melee anyway
appolo skill i think u dont fight garrison
yeah use skill sorry
def to current target
ranged is irrelevant for that
Ranged cant attack a garrison ? I hate range so much i ignored that XD
just have a skill on troy kvk, but i think that u just damage the durability, without 'fighting' the garri
text need be somethign like this to work to ranged attacks
Thats how it work indeed
We will have the melon market event in the next few days?
if i had to guess tomorrow or at the latest thursday
How much gingerbread do I need to finish all the way to lvl 25? (I have 470 right now)
sun tzu primary, 5-5 richard or 5-5-2-1 ysg secondary
what can I do with my 5-5 richard from recharge events🐦⬛
Anyone got a alliance I can join I'm from the UK with 840k power
what least army tech needed for f2p in kvk1 mine kinda bad cuz focues on getting 25ch first 🤧
Does anyone know when kd 4000 is coming out
Anyone got arms training skill order?
What is best way to get teleports since I used them all
is it worth?
commanders for shadow legion?
terrible
if u want do and be a whalle, maybe getting the bundles instead
Hello, can someone help me with creating a card from the ROK app please ? It doesn’t work
oh and what kp you end up with ?
Yeah you can only choose the difficulty before starting it
How much power should i aim for by kvk 2
can you gift a flux script that was gifted to you?
No
20-25M maybe a little lower
at which hour do servers usually start?
Random
thanks
How often is a zenith of power again?
4 times a year, march june september and december usually
and has there been a rework last time I played only the top 10 gets the skin
You now get a specific currency for powering up, which you can trade in the zenith shop for the skin. However it's very expensive. Last time you had to power up 60mil to get the guaranteed skin
U get a medal per 5M pushed, last time it was 60 since it was for all unit troop types, looks like specific unit city themes go for 8 medals so 40M power pushed
But yeah
Now also you'll have older skins reappearing which u can buy with another currency or something? I don't know clearly how it works but it's there
those are for 2026
The face to face with the developers also introduced zenith badges, however theyll be in 2026
this one will be like last
Oh really?
Oh well damn
Did u perchance understand how those worked? 
I hadn't seen that aight ty 
those 'old coins' carry over
But like how do u get those
Do u push 5M get a normal coin for this zenith and on top of that get a coin which will stay and u can purchase older skins with?
There will be zenith badge and legacy zenith badge
A zenith badge is for the shop of the current zenith(like now)
A legacy zenith badge has a seperate shop for older zenith skins
Every unused zenith badge becomes a legacy zenith badge
Ooookay this is what I didn't get alright
Now, instead of the coin 'disappearing', it also converts.
So if I push zenith and don't spend them they convert alright
I see I see alright alright
Thank u fellas appreciate it 
I see nice thanks for sharing also goat name lol
Hello everyone, I’m creating a new clan in the new kingdom 3986 which coming. I’m going to need whale and r4. We will be the most powerful.
Make a post there and recruit there
This isn't the channel for it
I can’t
whys there an aura on our cities
Peace shield most likely
System shield
Servers cooked
🤣🤣🤣🤣
we didnt even have kingsland yet
Just like in troy
xd
hope you're ready for a gold fate changer
not ma zone
All events related to armament are garbage right now. The best value for armament is to travel an extra time for 30gems daily.
Is it better to upgrade troops or just start from scratch?
ideally you should train t2 and upgrade them during troop training events
to maximise the use of your speedups
otherwise, if you don't want to push during troop training events:
just train from scratch because the total speedups used and resources consumed is the same for both
The only difference is "to t5" where the power gain per speed up jumps. If you care about power up events, it is advised to build t4 and upgrade them during such events.
If you are in season of conquest i recommand training t3 off season and upgrade them to t5 in kvk (thats a free troop training quest per day)
Hey guys
Can someone helpe I'm pre kvk 1
When pyrus or Martel appear in daily special offer And if I buy them like when cc is in there and don't open the chest and when we get new commander swap to that and open it will I get cc or new commander (from previous chests)
When you buy the daily special offer (thats what i understand) you get named chests related to the commander you picked at the moment of purchase. Those chest can't be exchanged for something else.
if you're given a vacation permit and you decline it, would that mean that you wasted a vacation permit or will the slot be reused for another?
should i spend my golden heads on cleopatra or cao cao
None of the above
Use Constance
You can get legendary gathering commanders from gold chests and events instead
Or any other blue or purple gathering commander
joans gathering is maxed out i stil ave constance and sarka but then who should i spend my gold heads on?
aethlfield?
No
Save them for KVK3
Impossible
my kingdom is young
ur right i forgot
Yes so just save your resources
Ysg maybe
Only if expertise 
i don’t really know where to go next with commanders
Well he would be good in kvk 1 and 2 isnt he
Get Sun/Aeth
Only if Expertise
sun is expertised
Yes that is good
Is there any chance i can get another kingdom reservation message after using one?
i run sun/cao cao but i’m trying to expertise bjorn
Run Sun/Aeth
Cao cao and Bjorn are trash
i need to get aeth sculptures tho
Yes
It gets easier over time
Sun Tzu is the best epic
to get aeth i’d need good commanders already
sun isn’t enough once you start getting high up that’s my point
should i keep leveling him higher than 44 or level up other commanders?
He needs to be level 60
now my next question is how do i do that
Get his star level to the max
Anyone else having issues when logging in an acct to a new device? Comes up with a new governor, but on old device it still works/pops up with the correct governors
Huo+philip
Joan+Arthur
Gamchan+Achilles
Qsh+Nevsky
David+Hector or attila/david
would this work for 5 cav pairs
Does suns skill tree work when secondary on garrison
Talent trees don’t work on secondary commanders
Check if you didn't Mix up Email login and Google account log in.
And check the characters the account has
Because I’m in k3
Should I invest in huo in this lovely time 😂
should i go 5-5-5-5 on aethfeild
Eventually yes. 5511 is needed to be useful in KVK1
Is it worth getting minamoto to 5511 to pair with cao cao for barb forts
No
... is there a way to view which and how many days 8 votes were cast for the GotY contest?
I don’t believe so
what+
I quit during kvk 1 and now my kingdom is in kvk 3. Is it possiblr to make a comeback or something? I can migrate to kvk 2
shame, because I feel like I missed voting on Monday, but forgot for certain
No you can’t
Start a new character and eventually migrate your old account as a farm.
@kindred kelp
is it worth it to grind ceroli crisis or just beat each chieftain once
You only get rewards once per event cycle, so doing every Boss once is enough
thank you
I don’t have any garrison commander built should I just use my main march’s commanders?
Actually would Baibars as primary then Sun Tzu as secondary for garrison work?
yes
Yes
Peace shield is your 2nd best garri behind staying on alliance territory
Got it thanks everyone
It’s for the legion invasion event
Ah that one? Ye js use watever your primary march is
we gona have pumpkin event with this 7k gem thingy ?
Somebody has lohar training progression picture? Which skills first?
What’s the point of swapping two maxed and expertised commanders if they are already maxed out?
It's for the sake of finishing the list i think
So the list is complete and they don’t get questions asking what a 5555 for 5555 swap is
“They don’t get questions asking what a 5555 for 5555 swap is” sorry I don’t know what you mean
its just for the sake of finishing the list, as Lena said
ah yes I understand that part, but I don't understand the they don't get questions part
what questions?
some people may be curious to find out what the cost of the 5555 -> 5555 swap is
its not useful, its more of a thing to put people at ease
Alright what’s meta right now? I main cav and haven’t touched the game since kvk3
oooh i see, i get it, thank you
Arthur and Achilles as a pair
What else should I know 😔
Is it worth spending gems on current events?
So like fisherman baits, card king and Esmeralda’s fortune
If you're a returning player, you should restart
And lastly did they re nerf Huo
You would have the best shot there
No, but Huo isn't a prime pick now if you're looking to run cav
FAHHH alright
Arthur is your number one priority
No
Can someone send me the best arch gear
All those events are total scams
Alrighty thank you
#🌟〡gear pins
You're welcome
Ur the goat
Ok ty
You're welcome
whale bait ass events
fr
If I were to make a new account in a new kingdom right now what troop type should I main if I am F2P?
Infantry
sun aeth
whale pairing best option charles ysg
ysg needs exp charles needs 5511 minimum
don't recommend unless you are a big spender
Sun/Aeth
Is ysg worth it still?
If you can expt him before kvk 2 then defo
I’ll probably be able to expt him kvk 1
personally he ain't really worth but you will still trade equal kvk2 if you are an average f2p player
What makes him usefull is circle aoe and as pair to qsh later on
zhuge is slightly better but if you already have ysg then it's better to just keep
Yes yes, absolutely agree.
I like ysg because he is useful in every season and has longterm value... other than some commanders that are only useful for kvk2 lol
whats the best march for arms training?
an inf or archer march since cav is countered
im using bq/lc rn, but i think for inf bq/ww is best and archer qsh/shajar works best
need more clarification on that though
ok ty
what should I use for arms training?
Should I 5511 5511 siege
?
Out of these 2 which do you think is better for my peacekeeping march? I usually use full cavalery but for rallies it’s not impossible that people put archery or infantery although usually it’s mostly cavalery
I could also use the green one for my main fighting match
This is the weapon for my main commander
Green peacekeeping gear is best
Ok so I use the green gear for peacekeeping and keep the blue axe on Baibars for now?
Yes
Ok thanks!
You’re welcome
does buying supply depot counted in recharge event this Christmas event?
When’s the new smite formation coming?
Does anyone know if bai qi is still worth expertising or should I do Achilles
I feel Achilles is not even that amazing
BQ is probably better, but they’re also different troop types
I am cav main but already have quo/arthur and nevsky/joan
@mighty viper I feel that huo/arthur is still very good and Achilles just not worth the investment yet
At the same time I don’t have great infantry gear so that is something I need to consider
next inf maybe come next month also, so need consider it
i heard you get all the mats returned when dismantling purple gear, but dismantling green and blue gear doesn't give all the mats back, is that treue?
Any project active started this week?
What’s a good f2p barb pairing
Chaining?
Aeth/Lohar
Pretty sure it's false u get everything back
Except for non crit gold's ofc
ahh youre correct, thanks
Yw
For zenith of power is there rewards you can get that aren’t from rankings? Like by just pushing to a certain number of power in your own
@rancid rivet 5gh for 1m power pushed
Ok thanks
Are these Gingerbread earned by per barb killed or can I use multi marches and farm them?
Can use multiple marches
does zenith give guaranteed building and research 15% runes?
k thx
You're welcome
I appreciate it!
kvk1 hasnt started yet but charles martel wheel is coming up soon. i plan to use mina/baibars as my march for kvk1 (both expertised) is there a point of me investing gems into martel for any reason?
Yes and no
I personally wouldn't go for Martel
Yes if you want expertised Martel before everyone else, but usually just wait
He's good but if you already have Mina Baibars then there isn't much use for Martel
There is enough opportunities to get Martel without the gems
better than richard/martel?
Richard himself isnt that great on field
Im using Mina/Cc for kvk1 but got Martel/Tzu on Garrison duty
Martel/YSG > Mina/Bai though
Don't use CC
Use Mina Sun
CC is a noob trap
Ahhh okay
so whats the best possible march for kvk1
That works out better to be honest, im 30 heads away from a Expertised Tzu
martel/ysg?
Imo Martel/YSG
And Mina is max
and for kvk2 pls
KvK2? Im pretty sure it's Alex/YSG or Saladin/YSG but Martel/YSG is still fine. Alex/Martel is good but basically 0 damage
Yano... 3961?
Saladin/Mina is also decent
You're welcome
Hi?
Hello
Wassup
How you doing
Im fine wbu
No it’s just you pinged so I was wondering if you had something to tell me
I think I clicked your name on accident and it pasted your name onto the text I was writing 
Sorry about that
It’s alright lol
Holes how u so active
If I participate in the Silver Battlefield can I not play in the Golden Battlefield?
Or do i have to choose which one I would play in?
And i cant play in the one that I didnt choose?
You have to pick one or the other
Ahhh damn thanks
You’re welcome
Any idea when the commander reset?
Awesome thx
You’re welcome
is it true a 15% training rune drops 100% of the time at the start of zenith
Likely a myth
ok
It’s a myth lol
I'm pretty sure it's not
It was either for zenith or for pre kvk
But one of them 2 it was
I'm 10000%
It was for Zenith, yeah
This was done to ensure fairness across kingdoms in continents
Ye I can't find where they said it but given that in pre kvk it didn't happen it has to be zenith
I believe it was either in a developer feedback or a gathering in one of the countries, not sure
Lilith actually being consistent? 
heheh
I mean it wouldn’t surprise me but at the same time unless I see it in writing i assume any 100% chance people ask about is a myth
That's understandable
Like kingdoms opening based on the monument
Yep
But this one's a good thing at least
so that means temple is dropping 15% training?
I would suppose it includes pre SOC
im in kvk 1 pre kvk
Would be fairly dumb otherwise honestly
Ye ye precisely
we got a 15% rune during training stage
im part of kd leadership and we are wondering if we wait with the kd buff
because we had planned to use it for last bit of training stage
but if we do that and a 15% buff spawns, we cant use kd buff cuz of cd
so I think its best to just cancel last buff
Is it worth burning through my accelerations for Zenith? I definitely won’t make it to the top but I can definitely get like 10 gold head by increasing my power by 2 million.
I don’t have too many research speed up or training or building I was thinking I use all these up then use like 15-20 of my 26 days of universal speed up?
I am not worried about ressources I have an unbalanced ratio of ressource to speed up idk how to fix it
It’s kvk 1 btw
No its not worth it
Got it. Btw do you know how I can try to balance my accelerators to rss? Cuz I am always sweating about accelerators but litteraly never about ressources because I don’t have enough accelerator to go through a third of my ressources
just don't use them 😭
also like do the standard stuff like spend your daily ap on forts, join active alliance, etc
and buy speed ups for rss from the courier
Wouldn’t u also use up a lot less rss if I didn’t use speed ups?
Besides the obvious elephant in the room which is spending, there is a few things you can consider
- Use your regularly generated activity points on forts within home kingdom, barb chaining during later zones (higher levelled barbs) within Lost kingdom (KVK)
- Balance the use between your city progression and your saving goals, having Speedups essentially come from saving them and tend to be required for healing during fights
- maximise events, do all of them
- aim for an alliance with a high activity and eventually spending. The game has shared benefits through activity (alliance gift chests) and spending (shared gacha chest) of which both contain speedups
Yeah I do these barbs forts and basically anything that costs rss from courier I buy
Make more farms or buy resources (via the official bundle ofc)
Yeah I do most of these apart from AP I didn’t start killing bars and doing forts until recently so that might be a reason
I meant like I have too many ressources vs accelerators
The alliance I’m in might not particularly be the best example for regular alliances, but to show what can be done it suffices. During our offseason you tend to get 10-15 days of speedups a day simply from the alliance chest that becomes available after a certain amount of gifts been opened.
this is a good thing tbh
Most alliances aim for 2-4 which is 2-6 days of speedups I guess
Buy more bundles or grind more barbs and forts
I wish I had that issue btw 😂
Not if you got 30 days but usually yes
Yeah none of the alliances in my KD is nowhere like that they have maybe 20 people but daily special offer and 5 people buy a 10 dollar bundle a day for the top alliance 😂
Ok I can’t spend more so I’ll just grind as many barbs as possible
We tend to get 5-7 of those a day simply through forts, the other half is spending
find a new kingdom bruh it matters so much
Just don’t use AP pots till KVK 
like im low spender but i have like 800 days of speed ups and its kvk 1 cause of gc and stuff
I can’t until the end of kvk
you're in kvk? joever
Keep in mind mau is in the strongest kingdom in the game, nobody's gonna come anywhere near them dw 😂
I haven’t been using all my AP I have like 55k AP worth of AP bottles lol I’ll never run out
That is genuinely a decent stash, I’d say kvk1 fighting typically runs you 100-200 days. What’s your power?
Yeah kvk 1
Tho as he said most alliances will get 2~ or more alliance chests a day
15m
it's pretty low ngl but I never had a chance at a 20gh event cause of whales
Mhm I see
Truth be told you'll start getting ACs past KvK 1 when everyone merges
Yeah but even for kvk 1 alliances we are kinda weak 😂
Oh but Mau believes he’s an average player so that must make him so 
He did point he's definitely not average I mean 
We know u wanted to say 6-7

Why do you think I said the first sentence
The alliance I’m in might not particularly be the best example for regular alliances, but to show what can be done it suffices. During our offseason you tend to get 10-15 days of speedups a day simply from the alliance chest that becomes available after a certain amount of gifts been opened.
So having more rss now is an advantage?
That is alright, after K1 you're likely to merge and end up getting more activity. In one alliance thus more chests
I suppose yeah
Ooh that’s nice I never went past kvk 1 before
It's always good to save
Try to save RSS where you can
Later on you'll run sooner of RSS than speeds
Ok that’s nice then thanks for the advices everyone 🙏
Just farm more 
At one point if your KD doesn't die you'll get a bunch of crystal chests and you'll just stack speeds upon speeds
I'll still say you're welcome even though I send one message to help 
Ofc ofc 
Still helpful 😅
No regular alliances don’t get 2-4 crystal chests a day.
What I said is wrong because I think I’m a regular player

Think zalman has never been in any alliance but a farm shell, so idk how he’d know anyway
Who?
If you’re gonna insult me at least get my name right 
Off topic now but one person doing 1K forts 1+1 a week can pretty comfortably do 1 alliance chest a day and a bit more so it just takes a bit of activity from everyone
Id say 400-500 forts a day is doable as an alliance which will get you 2-3 by default
Younger kingdoms even more so
Salsa?
Oh I thought we are talking about Salsa Fierce, a player
That's likely ye
Let’s assume you expect your kingdom members to join or launch 10 forts a day, at 120 members 1+1 so /2*10= 600
And 10 is a rly rly comfortable target
400-500 is a fairly pessimistic approach imo
We roughly expect 14.5 per day, 150/2*14.5=1087,5
Which is about 70% of daily AP you could theoretically use
I wish people did 1+1s 🤣 we have our brightest minds doing 1+9 for a lvl 5 fort
Whereas we typically use the remaining 5 spots with ap loaded farms to reinforce more, so members can launch instead
Might be helpful to someone in leadership idk
Iirc every fort above level 5 gave the same keys or close to the same so yeah it's enough for 2 CCs a day without spending any money
But wanted to say it
We hit 17-19 chests at peak, don’t think that much off of spending tbh
Think I did the math before to show forts alone are 10
Yeah that makes sense was it in some event tho?
We offer rewards every offseason for the top ranking forters yes
1-5 MW
6-10 pop ups

Oh so it was a competition then I see
Our peak is at like 8 in forts stage or smth like that but ye that makes sense
Forts this offseason were 1.55k average a day on I think 45 days ca.
We are f2p, I’m telling ya

how much power normally do U need for a zenith skin in a prekvk 1
Varies on region no average can be given
As stated by Sparky, we cant tell you.
But in brand new kingdom, you always have at least oke kingdom in your continent that is loaded with whales. So expect a lot
Some were saying about +40m power
how to reach this with the less money, most value?
gem supply and daily treasure
Ty, sadly i got the gem supply already when itgot half the price but havent got anything for it, only got these offers after
Is this a good pack?
not really imo
No unless ur a whale
Its half the value of a writers of history popup
Ok thanks guys
there will be no christmas event in new servers?
Is melon market not coming? It was mentioned somewhere in the update
probably at reset
nah its true @worthy karma
forgot where it was mentioned but it was added right before leadership zenith
mightve been a system mail
I see, thanks
Yes, every day of zenith with first round of guardians killed
This was added with the last zenith
kd need have more than 21/28 days before the event comes
Is there a day in mightiest governor where you should spend Sculptures?
no
Should I 5511 5511 smite siege
what
If I should
you shouldnt
What should I do then 🤔
is this your first field march
how old is your account
K4
374X?
siege is more a 5th or 6th march
3x
yeah especially with group army nowadays
oh
you either won or lost kvk already then
anyways just pair qsh with zl
But inf jsut dies instantly in open field
I can’t exp them tho
ur in 373X which means youre in the low seed kvk
so if your infs dying on open field instantly then maybe your gears behind
at least 3730-3736
😭
infs not great atm but doesnt die instantly if you have the gear
but not getting qsh would be a huge mistake
expertise qsh and get zl to like 5551 to start i guess
Ok
(We somehow have multiple top kvk kds in our seed ..)
inf now if u dont have alr, better wait also
So I can jsut wait ?
what your current march
Exp bp lc
i know
your kvks matchmaking is some of the worst matchmaking ive ever seen in rok

lilith really shat a big one when doing your matchmaking
i would work on qsh then
Or wait until new inf gets revealed and reset one ? 🤔 🤔
sound good
Cost or the event?
i just prefer dont rely too much on it
cost
with too low info
i always have min 50k gems so im genuinely not worried
better be safe
Swap was also 12k max
but i mean announcing such a big event only to lock it behind anything more than 20k gems would just cause too many complaints and issues for lilith
after egg i gona have 40k, so sbould be fine
so doubt theyll make it too expensive
Ye + bundle tho
True enough
@lunar musk which kd r u btw 👀
a bit, but diferent swap, the 'target ppl' is diferent
so idk
3727/3686
86 mentioned 
yeah but having such a crucial event that is probably meant to be used as a returning player incentive be locked behind a high cost would be terrible
goat kd
Fr
ye, but u known how the things works

Did yall win or lose again ?
It's better to have hope though.
We can only hope it's a reasonable price tbh
Might as well skip gear events and be safe myself
Nevsky needs to go
no idea how 'quantify' ghs to gems
Maybe they make it more expensive the more GHs u get back
That would make kinda sense
i did same kvk mig
But it can't be something way too out of reach for most either
who get 680 should not pay the same as who get 380

eh i see no reason to worry lilith will fuck up big time by screwing over lower spenders- oh wait
😂
Fair point
i fell we gona have the 'swap' problem
egg events weapon accessory i can skip it if i want if im that concerned about costs
with mtg being soon
Oh wait yall have queeny?
went to 3743
*Had 😭
It's most likely gonna be the case
i meed fir last drum
probably
Unless Lilith comes n say they won't do anything else like this again
i have 1 drums on my old acc and genuinely cant find anyway to integrate 2 more drums if i wanted to go that route
People will complain this doesn't help new accounts which is kinda true tbh
But I'll take my 660 GHs home on this one
heard we maybe get a gear seap, but just rumors
even the 1 drum i have would prob eventually be there on qsh just for support
i heard it was a blueprint swap
if its a proper gear swap then i have a dagger 😂
Same but I heard it was gonna be stupid expensive
like how expensive
being gems, can do
i need 2 ring bps and thats it when it comes to accessories

I HEARD 80K gems
i heard 80k gems for the legendary armament event
Obviously that's rumours tho
not the equipment bp swap
I might be messing it up
and if you ask me 80k gems for 1-2 legendary inscriptions on pity slots would be mighty worth
Sucks for me that I won't have the gems 😂
yeah id never spend 80k gems not even 40k gems on swapping say a coin blueprint to ring blueprint
if be true, i might need skip a egg
i literally dont have much else to buy from the kvk shop with coins anyway so id just wait and save coins
by that price, u expect the full equipment ngl
at that price i expect a full equipment and a medal of appreciation
and a full body massage and 2 days at a hotel
i find pity will become even worse later
imagine u have 6/10 on pincer, and they release the new smite formation wich is better
u finish pity on pincer or start new?

i think is the way
i cant stress enough just how much i hate the idea of new formations coming out regularly
180 for 1 pity is too much ngl
i wanna convert my cav wedge but i cant cuz of the stupid fucking new formation teasers with 0 actual information on what they will be
ye
i dont even want rally garrison exclusive new formations
why fuck over them for no reason
no idea if gona be 'just to archer' or generic all
niche ig
why power creep the one thing thats meant to stay consistant
good think 99% can ignore
it means rally garrison players cant field with their best formation set if needed
not a rl/gl but still dont like that lol
so many Ls lately
be r/g suck
at least give us the courtesy of letting us be ready for whats coming
theyre basically going "we're coming and giving you no lube"
If you weren't going to say anything, it would have been better not to reveal it at all.
IKR
i get this is an investment and saving game in practice but
hope my qsh finally get a good flag. balanced is meh
having to wait on new commander teasers before investing in X or Y is already enough
i dont wanna have to wait for over 6 months on my conversion stones
in fact i dont wanna have to wait on my conversion stones at all
they should be there to stack pity on one formation or convert from inf/cav wedge to delta/pincer
not a currency that i can barely keep up or not keep up at all with on powercreep formations
