❓〡questions

[nova sand]

Cav4life

If David ever gets into the meta field he would be 5515

Doubt ofc

But I feel he is better than joanne

Atilla would be 5155

[vast ruin]

Best bq talent tree pls

Also got another question

Does hera work with smite commanders?

Like I put hera first and a smith commander secondary

Does his skill damge bonus still apply simce is smite damage

[daring laurel]

no.

[winged totem]

can the zenith coin can be stack to another zenith in new update?

[cunning oar]

they shared on Instagram

[river geyser]

Hey guys I’m new here, what’s the fastest way to get a lot of power in a new kingdom?

[austere nest]

upgrade...

your credit card

[rose narwhal]

How many medals is a zenith frame in the shop?

[earnest sable]

Any codes right now?

[tall moat]

at what point is it worth spending ap bottles on forts?

[rose narwhal]

I don't think it is at any given point to be honest

[tall moat]

gosh darnnit, so ap bottle is only worth it for mauraders?

or what else D:

[rose narwhal]

Kvk barbs

[tall moat]

chaining or 5 marching

[rose narwhal]

Both I suppose

[tall moat]

which level barbs and how much ap?

i gotta start locking in

tell me exactly what to do and like a machine ill do it

[rose narwhal]

Dawg idk I honestly js chain and when I don't hit the kvk honour max req I just 5 march till I got it if it's close enough

Other than that 30-50K every marauders and save

I don't really spend AP on forts, maybe w the filler to help w alliance chests but that's about it

Oh well I do spend AP on 7K events to finish them on day 1 but u don't have to do that I'm just inpatient

Just don't fully drain your AP specially if you're pre SOC and you'll be fine

[tall moat]

yes sir

[novel blaze]

how long max can a king bestow a title

[cunning cave]

10 days

[rain ravine]

I'm in BW75, Fabian189 is my name

[ripe summit]

How do I change the lilith email bound to an account

[gloomy peak]

Is the 7k gem event doable without spending action points and without chaining?

[rain ravine]

if you Spend money maybe

[somber skiff]

Yes if you are active and get a lot from the resource buildings inside of your city

[nocturne sandal]

How to get parrot pfp

[bleak rock]

its prekvk and the speedup event for 20 gh started. im f2p and i got 80 days of speedups (110k mins) i could get top 3 right now. is it worth it?

or should i wait for power event

7.6m

[earnest sable]

You could save to get top 1 next time

[humble quiver]

What would be considered a good amount of power for a F2P player on day 57 of the account? I’m currently at 6.1M power

[bleak rock]

idk when the next one is gonna be though

its day 40

also I was planning to get into top 1

alliance

[earnest sable]

Then i think the sooner you get power the better

[bleak rock]

im top 2 in a star kd and top 2 has like no whales

[earnest sable]

Its worth it ig

You can get better rewards in top 1ally

[bleak rock]

do you think i should wait until gate 3 opens and then join top 1

bc top 2 still hasnt claimed lvl 3 altars

[graceful panther]

What time does the Kingdom 3985 [Zephyra] open? please

[bleak rock]

prob 16 hrs or so

depends

[digital socket]

what do I do if customer support keeps on sending this to my bug reports?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[fast niche]

When calculating the seed, do only the first 300 or all 25city halls take into?

[quick juniper]

yes

[fast niche]

which one first 300 or all 25ch?

[somber skiff]

For which kvk?

[warm herald]

How do I claim codes?

[nova skiff]

Go to your settings in game and click “redeem”

[warm herald]

Ok thanks!

[nova skiff]

Happy to help

[fast niche]

soc

[somber skiff]

All CH 25 then unless you have domains

[regal topaz]

Hey guys, when using Sun Tzu +Aethel, should I use infantry only?

[fast niche]

what is domains

[crisp arrow]

You wait

[mighty viper]

Yes

[narrow vine]

Guys what's the point of playing Rise of Kingdoms if while you have T2 and the fucking immigrants and full P2W players have T4

Kingdom have 7 days btw

[regal topaz]

You either become immigrant or become P2W

[mighty viper]

You don’t have any migration at 7d into a kingdom…

[spark elk]

they didnt migrate you smartie

[quick juniper]

Credit Card Crusaders still going strong in new kingdoms I see

[random dagger]

Whats the sovereign key used for?

[quick juniper]

Who knows

[random dagger]

So for opening chests but guaranteed a legendary comm?

[quick juniper]

Lilith would never add anything into the game that guaranteed you get exactly what you want.

[random dagger]

Eh?

[limber scroll]

It works like golden chests but you have Season of Conquest commanders instead with chances to get from 1-10 sculptures

This is for Season of Conquest kingdoms, if you are in a young kingdom, it will be changed to gold key soon

[mighty viper]

Yes the legendary tavern has only legendary commanders, but it’s better to use them on the “Hearts desire” event

[quick juniper]

debatable

[true sorrel]

not debatable at all actually

[random dagger]

Im in a new one

So thanks

[mighty viper]

Not really

[quick juniper]

yes really

[mighty viper]

I’m n addition to this i should add that there’s been a bug going around that gives sovereign keys to young kingdoms

[quick juniper]

Hearts desire doesn't have the newest commanders that you want, like BQ or Achilles. Only the tavern has them right now, not including the Daily Special Offer eventually

[limber scroll]

Yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't a hot fix for this already

[quick juniper]

well, BQ is on the wheel, but w/e

[true sorrel]

then if it doesnt show up just open normally

even still for his case it might get added since he probably just unlocked the legendary tavern

by the time the event shows up

[quick juniper]

I have Hearts Desire in my kvk right now, it doesn't even have Ragnar, and he's been out for more than a year now

but please by all means, keep telling people to use their sov keys on fuckin Guan or w/e people are pulling for from this ass event

[vast ruin]

Does it have bq?

[quick juniper]

That is the entirety of the Inf pulls you can select. It does not.

[vast ruin]

[mighty viper]

There’s also a chance it could be adjusted the the future

To say that the event is never worth it is disingenuous

It depends entirely on what commanders one wants to get

[quick juniper]

I did not say it was never worth it. I said it is NOT worth it.
Telling people to pull for previous meta is a pretty shitty thing to do

[mighty viper]

And at the very least hearts desire allows people to pick their commanders. The tavern does not

[quick juniper]

That does not matter when there are NO COMMANDERS worth getting from Hearts Desire!

[mighty viper]

LC is not worth getting?

[quick juniper]

meh, he's pretty close to "previous meta"

[mighty viper]

No he’s not

[quick juniper]

we'll se what the new inf fielder looks like

[mighty viper]

The chances of him getting outright replaced are slim

New inf is likely going to be a single target if things go how people believe they will

[brisk gale]

i didnt even know that existed

[mighty viper]

Get T5 and that should solve the problem

[pure fulcrum]

ı dont have t5

[brisk gale]

even with a t4 march with kvk tech thats easy

[pure fulcrum]

yea with kvk tech

Whiich ı dontr have

[mighty viper]

Yeah then wait for KVK tech

[pure fulcrum]

Enough crystals

[brisk gale]

actually nvm easy in home kd too

just use comms with increased cap

[pure fulcrum]

I dont want to waste myy xp books for gather commanders thats why ı asked

[brisk gale]

wym waste you should have all gatheres 4 stars

[mighty viper]

What else are you using them for?

[pure fulcrum]

Oher commanders,ım currently focuswing on bai qu

[mighty viper]

Do guardians?

[pure fulcrum]

wdym

[brisk gale]

a lvl 30 sarka doesnt take many xp books

[mighty viper]

Do guardians to level up your commanders

[pure fulcrum]

What is guardians

[mighty viper]

Ok it’s time to restart

[brisk gale]

the things that spawn at holy sites

[rose narwhal]

How do u not know what a guardian is but u have Bai Qi

[mighty viper]

The things that guard holy sites

[pure fulcrum]

Oh that guardians

[pure fulcrum]

I dont use rok in english thats why ı was confused

I turned english to send the achievemenst

[rose narwhal]

Okay ykw that's fair my apologies

[dapper ivy]

If i upgrade t1/t2 to t3, do i gain more power than training brand new t3?

[unborn helm]

More power per speedup spent as far as I'm aware

[pure fulcrum]

nw

[dapper ivy]

Alr ty

[gloomy peak]

Hey guys, is there still a 12-hour announcement phase in pre-KVK for stage 3(which should be the training stage)? Would be good to know since that affects when we gotta do our training buffs since you can't gain any more points during announcement phase, right?

[placid harbor]

Hi, my kd have commander swap event atm. I have ok inf and decent archer eq. Can i go for bq+lc? Or should i take archer commanders and wait for new inf?

[mighty viper]

I’d take LC and QSH or BQ and QSH if you can’t unlock LC in enough time

[digital socket]

what is heart's desire

[mighty viper]

An event in SOC for recruiting commanders

[earnest sable]

Are there any tricks for killing them? I only get 1 or 2 of these things but i am 4 marching one barb?

[austere drum]

No tricks, just kill them with all your marches

[earnest sable]

Then i am just unlucky ig

[pure fulcrum]

Hey u have zenobios expertise

is she good?

[terse mason]

Not anymore

[errant copper]

Can we talk about Zhuge, is he trash or am I trash. Because why is my ragnar scipio trading better 😂

[terse mason]

She's dawg now

[terse mason]

You using him with qin?

Give context

[errant copper]

Nah, I went Zhuge hermann GSH YSG

[terse mason]

Bruh that makes lwk sense then

[errant copper]

zhuge traded only got 2m kp, and my ragnar even, lemme show you

[errant copper]

does it? because of hermann is it?

[terse mason]

Ye

[errant copper]

crazy, who do I pair zhuge with then? philip or something?

cause my qsh already does great with ysg

[terse mason]

Oh ye

Man idk

Archers have always been weird

[errant copper]

nahh, I cant lie. Imma have to bench him. lmao

[errant copper]

right

Also, what do you think of wallace. Because I keep getting told i'm trolling for running wallace on the field. But then why is he trading as good, in fact. Slightly better than QSH/ ysg

[errant copper]

Is Zhuge with QSH stronger than QSH YSG? I was looking at how ysg still has that crazy increased skill damage

[terse mason]

Uhh ppls may be dumb who tell you that

[errant copper]

hahahaha, soo many people man

[terse mason]

If you do lc/alex and bq/ww it gonn trade pretty well

[terse mason]

Yes

[errant copper]

ohh okay, noted.

[terse mason]

Many ppls run that cuz the skill dmg meta for inf kinda sucks

[errant copper]

Cool, now i'm not even sure what to run. I've only really got old commanders expertised. I don't even know what to run anymore.

Tbh, I only 3 marched in my last zone fight: WW/Liu that did insane trades QSH YSG did insane aswell. Ragnar Scipio did well. better than zhuge/hermann.

[rose narwhal]

I wonder how Guan Philip performs

[errant copper]

and let's not talk about joan, author. Because that did soo bad

[errant copper]

I'll let you know tomorrow

[terse mason]

Uhh first replace joan

With achilles

[errant copper]

i benched joan after 2 open field fights 😭

Guan Liu was trading better

something was going wrong

i mean

guan alex

sorry

sounds good

[terse mason]

And where bq

[errant copper]

I kind of used my final heads on willam when he got released and I've been broke ever since 😭 . I think I started working on philip then I heard a new infantry commander was being released

[terse mason]

You really want bq for the best 3 inf settup

[errant copper]

hmm, okay. I mainly use an infantry zenith aswell

[terse mason]

Bq/ww, lc/alex and ragnar/scipio

Yee

[errant copper]

I went infantry for tech aswell. I've only had my first zone fight so i'm still early kvk

[errant copper]

cool, wait. Does that mean i'd need like two pincer armament sets?

dayum

[terse mason]

Yep

[errant copper]

I think my account is cooked

[terse mason]

So get your conversion stones ready

[errant copper]

I don't even have many conversion stones. I just swapped a wedge legendary to pincer recently

[terse mason]

So bricked

[errant copper]

😂

What're you running for your marches?

[terse mason]

Me? Well I'm still running last gen stuff but planning to upgrade my marches very soon

[errant copper]

ahh okay, sounds good

[terse mason]

I have 2.8k gh

[errant copper]

brooo, slide some 😭

want to have a look at what I have expertised 😂

[terse mason]

Like rn I run bq/lc, ragnar/scipio, nev/joan, huo/arthur and qin/zl

Cavs need sm desperate improvements

[terse mason]

😭😭😭

[errant copper]

I want my heads back 😂

[errant copper]

ohh okay, that looks good. I had a farm that was T4 with expertised Huo author and it was trading pretty well when i 1 marched.

Does he still trade well?

[terse mason]

I can't really judge since my last kvk was a diddy seed kvk

[errant copper]

diddy seed💀 ?

[terse mason]

And the imp kvk before that (846, 3379, 2359) was before achilles release

So yea

[errant copper]

ohh okay

[terse mason]

Basically low seed

[errant copper]

ahh

[terse mason]

Everything trades well there

Cuz ppls genuinely use dumb shit there

[errant copper]

that's probably why mine are trading well aswell. I'm in a diddy seed 😂

[terse mason]

I saw sala, xy, martel...

😭😭😭

[errant copper]

💀

that's crazy

[rose narwhal]

He likes getting touched it's a habit forgive him

[errant copper]

zesty festy 😂

[unique ruin]

Could someone with experience give me some advice about my account? I recently restarted an account and I feel like I'm falling behind in my kingdom, and it's driving me crazy

[pure fulcrum]

What does commander trade means?

[mighty viper]

Get into one of the top three alliances, if you can do that then you’re doing fine

[mighty viper]

?

[pure fulcrum]

This for example

[rose narwhal]

That's how good they trade in a fight

[mighty viper]

The number of kill points generated in a fight

[pure fulcrum]

Ohh

[mighty viper]

And how well each side did comparatively

[errant copper]

chat gpt response 😂

[rose narwhal]

Yeah I realized late ngl

[mighty viper]

Bro is still doing Tome work

[pure fulcrum]

Btw how muxh differance does it make when fighting against stronger unit like inf vs arch

[mighty viper]

It’s really only prevalent in rally vs garrison fights

[rose narwhal]

I like helping people aye, I just felt like tome was a responsability so I got rid of it now I'm free, no weekly rewards but

[mighty viper]

[unique ruin]

and if i can’t ? 🧌

[mighty viper]

Then it’s best to restart, probably with a group

[pure fulcrum]

Whar about in duels

1v1

[mighty viper]

One shouldn’t really be doing duels

[rose narwhal]

Anyway it will only be a tiny bit of damage more

If gear is equal then most likely the one with the highest rage cycle will win

[mighty viper]

Yeah even if one did a duel the influence is minimal

[pure fulcrum]

Are u ur kds king

[unique ruin]

maybe i can reach the top 4 but i need a little bit more power.

[rose narwhal]

I'm co king yes why?

[mighty viper]

Yeah it’s best to restart. See #1250017171145359381

[pure fulcrum]

I wanted to knos if people who has overlord role is king

[mighty viper]

No, they are entirely separate things with no influence on one another

[errant copper]

Can I get special permission to join. I'm currently running 7 meta marches. Including Sargon/ Leo/ Harald with sieges.

[rose narwhal]

Nah

Overlord u get by yapping

[pure fulcrum]

Wjat does thqt means

[limber scroll]

[rose narwhal]

And then u buy it on #🤖〡bot․commands doing ./shop

[pure fulcrum]

Oj

[limber scroll]

I need to yap more

[rose narwhal]

Accepted please be GL with Leonidas Sargon

[rose narwhal]

That it's not related

At all

[errant copper]

what if you get in an academy or something but you still get shrines and stuff? That's my situation, restarting for fun as a f2p in a project. And the academy i'm in ensures that we get all the sanctums and stuff because they're in diff zones.

also, he should definitely do sleeper.

[errant copper]

sounds good 🥹

[mighty viper]

You need to get into an alliance that will participate in KVK

That’s really all that matters in the end

[rose narwhal]

Yeah but he has kind of a point though, usually the academies end up merging for the most part into main alliances before KvK starts or when it does

[pure fulcrum]

Shop is too expensive

100 gems for 10k points

[errant copper]

Ahh okay, true that makes sense.

[errant copper]

yeah, true.

[pure fulcrum]

Do i get credits in all channrl or just in #☕〡general

[mighty viper]

Sure, but often new players make the mistake of trying to stay in their original alliance despite the fact that it’s dead

[rose narwhal]

This one definitely at least, others I'd suppose as well

[rose narwhal]

That is true yeah

I guess w a good leadership that explains to them how it works that could be avoided

[mighty viper]

True, but that’s like finding a needle in a haystack

[rose narwhal]

Also true

[pure fulcrum]

Do u guys know the game mafia in discord btw

[mighty viper]

??

[errant copper]

I always made sure to stay in alliances affiliated with the top alliance. But I kind of messed up, I joined a project really late and I started in the kd they will land in as they're doing sleepers. I might just play 20 days and migrate out into the latest day 10 kingdom I find. But then at the same time, I will farm passports and tp and try to tp back before kvk. or is that dumb

[pure fulcrum]

"Mafia bot" or "mafia remastered" this 2 bot can run a game called mafia its so good

Its multiplayer

[mighty viper]

How is that relevant to this chat?

[pure fulcrum]

Idk

[errant copper]

😂

[mighty viper]

Please keep random conversations to #☕〡general

[pure fulcrum]

Got it

[unique ruin]

@mighty viper I'm in the academy of the future second alliance of the kingdom. It's third for now, but that's going to change. Is it that bad ?

[mighty viper]

You could do better

[hybrid edge]

What’s the best Civ for archer mains and commander combos for KvK 1? Last time I played Imhotep was pretty good along with YSG and Hermann, is that still the case?

[rose narwhal]

Thutmose 5511 (at least) and expertise ysg or isn't really worth it

[hybrid edge]

So save every bit of gems I get for ysg

Pretty much

What abt Civ?

[mighty viper]

Yeah pretty much and honestly 5511 Thut will work but kinda suck

Archers pre-SOC are for whales

[true sorrel]

you can't sit here and tell me you didn't get use out of guan

he was meta for a long ass time

[rancid rivet]

Should I burn through my ressources to have a power jump? King’s land opens in 3 days I have about 14.5 million power city hall 25. Since city hall 25 I have been really conservative with my ressources mostly saving them. I currently have over 20 days of universal speed up and 20 days of tech speed up. I have over 50 million of each rss and another nearly 150 million stored in chests. I saved everything so I won’t run out of rss during fighting but I also always get beat in open field fighting, like I cannot ever face an ennemie march alone. I might have to improve équipement and commanders which I am working on, but I could use some ressource to upgrade a few tech and building and troop, maybe jump to be close to 16 million power? Is it worth it or should I save up

[true sorrel]

never go into resourse bag

save for fighting

[true sorrel]

and you aren't meant to face an enemy alone you play in a ball

[narrow vine]

Hi, I have a question, how do other players manage to reach power of several million and t3/t4 in new kingdoms that have existed for 7 days, while others have over 500,000 and t2?

[errant nest]

Can anyone help me change the alliance welcome message?

[hybrid edge]

Money

[narrow vine]

How much

[nova skiff]

Whatcha need

[hexed ether]

I just logged into my account after a long break. Am I supposed to see a commander swap?

[mighty viper]

No

[hexed ether]

Was it only a limited time event ?

[mighty viper]

It occurs once at the start of the KVK3 offseason

[spark elk]

circled highlighted joan who btw is still okayish and didnt highlight that exp richard

[hard karma]

If I migrate during 7k event do I loose progress

And/or is their acctually going to be a Christmas 7k event

[rancid rivet]

Yeah I know like I can’t face ennemies alone but I do wish I could be stronger and at least face a couple ennemies maybe alone, bc right now even when we are multiple against an ennemie I take more damage and since I’m weaker I often get targeted

[storm shale]

is it worth bringing a farm up to ch 25 if it already has 23m troop power

[true sorrel]

only way that was happen if you spend money or fight noobs with alot less power then you

even whales can fuck you up with city keeper and dragon lancer combo lol

[fickle ore]

Whats the usual requirements for cross season migration on k2 imperium kds?

[rose narwhal]

Whatever power cap is locked at and 120 days back if u mean that

[fickle ore]

Nah

Like kp gear power

Ik its always t5s but dunno about gear kp and stuff

[warm herald]

I’m not able to tp near my alliance, I have all the land to get there, (yes there’s room) how do I get it to tp?

[rose narwhal]

Do u have the correct one?

[warm herald]

Wdym?

[rose narwhal]

If u own the passes and your alliance has territory u need a purple one

[warm herald]

Yeah I have 3

[rose narwhal]

If it doesn't own the passes too really

[warm herald]

I tried that it didn’t work

[rose narwhal]

Can u show me what it says please?

[warm herald]

Yep! Let me check rq

[rose narwhal]

I don't think there's a set one between K2 imperium's, I suppose they all have their own

[fickle ore]

On average?

[rose narwhal]

[fickle ore]

R they using all 20 spots for big whales/rally garrison leads?

[rose narwhal]

That is probable

[fickle ore]

😭

[rose narwhal]

Most likely being reserved for the 20 biggest whales they can get

[fickle ore]

Yeah im definitely not the biggest whales theu can get💔

I'll still wait for kds to come to k2 and ask around ig

[warm herald]

It says: “please occupy all passes along the way or use a teleport to reach alliance territory directly”

[rose narwhal]

Right yeah

So u either need to take the passes or u need to TP inside your alliance territory which u already said didn't work?

[warm herald]

Ye

[rose narwhal]

100% sure it's your alliance territory?

[warm herald]

Yep

[rose narwhal]

Cause that's odd asf

And you're using either this one or one with purple arrows?

[warm herald]

Yea I tried both

[small pier]

Guys i just returned what is this and what should i do with it

[rose narwhal]

Can u screen record trying to tp?

[warm herald]

Yea I already have a recording let me send it

[rose narwhal]

This is swap, u can exchange a commander u own for one u get on gathering of heroes (or other means) and the XP and skill levels will exchange themselves

[rose narwhal]

There is no territory there

Territory as in flags and alliance fortress

[small pier]

What should i swap then

[warm herald]

I tried to tp right next to them but it was full, that’s the closest thing to it

[rose narwhal]

Yes but there's no alliance structures built

U need to wait for them to build

[warm herald]

Ohh ok

[rancid rivet]

I have 20 days worth of technology speed up should I use them all to increase military tech? Cuz I am kinda getting beat up right now in kvk 1, and I am nowhere close to reach t5 anyways

[rose narwhal]

Go into gathering of heroes and see who u can get

What troop type do u main tho?

[small pier]

I don't know i just returned

[rose narwhal]

How old is your account?

@warm herald u need one of these

Which then u use to expand territory and build more flags

The ratio inside of those flags and CF is what's considered alliance territory

[rose narwhal]

Show your tech tree please both eco and war

[small pier]

How do i check that...

[true sorrel]

you should restart

[rancid rivet]

King’s land opens in like 3 days

[rose narwhal]

Go to your markswoman and check but as thrifty said it's likely restarting worthy

[small pier]

Awh

[rose narwhal]

I would wait for a KD buff and a rune and then push

Realistically you're gonna get beaten up regardless

[small pier]

Will i still have the returning reward thingy

[rose narwhal]

Which thingy?

[true sorrel]

yeah its a canon event dw

game punishes inactivity

[rancid rivet]

So should I burn through the 20 day accelerations though?

[small pier]

NAURURURUR

[rose narwhal]

Restart yeah

[rose narwhal]

Nah

[small pier]

Damn.

[rose narwhal]

Join a #1250017171145359381 and you'll be at that power back in 40-50 days if everything goes well

[small pier]

I just did I'm dumb to understand everything waititi

[true sorrel]

restarting if you commit you would reach rougly 30m-40m in a year if things go well

[small pier]

Okay what's a good civilisation

[rose narwhal]

China for starters

[rancid rivet]

So save the tech speed up for t5? I won’t spend on this account so I don’t think it’ll happen for probably at the very least a couple months, I was hoping other tech would at least give me better chances against others in kvk

[small pier]

Alright

[rose narwhal]

But I'd strongly recommend a restart project

Going solo is risky

[rose narwhal]

I'd wait till your KD has a buff for research and u get a rune so u push

And then push

[small pier]

I have no idea what that is

[rancid rivet]

Okay thanks

[small pier]

I'm overwhelmed

[rose narwhal]

A bunch of people organize and restart together

[rose narwhal]

Alright well then relax, we got all the time in the world to explain u whatever u need

Tho u can find most of it in a new player guide even tho they're outdated

[rose narwhal]

You're welcome brochacho

[true sorrel]

game is mind numbingly easy once you understand its mainly just game knowledge

[small pier]

I think i like using discord better so i can go back and forth with people and ask stuff

[true sorrel]

watch 12inchpvpness rok beginner guide it will help

[rose narwhal]

Yeah that's fair but the information is easier on YouTube, just the foundation of the game, everything else beyond that then it's fairs

As thrift says 12inchpvp is probably the best one to watch for this

[small pier]

Eugug fineee

[rose narwhal]

After that come ask about any doubt u may have but it's easier for u to watch it than for someone to type it out, you know

[prime sage]

worth getting ?

[elfin drum]

anyone know if the new christmas event vanishes if i migrate once it has started?

[vast ruin]

Wait until you kill 50 of them to not even get 1 or judt 5

[vast ruin]

?

[thorn cedar]

Is this event worth playing for f2p and i only have 18k gems

[tame cedar]

no

egg better for you

[coarse shale]

Anyone know why RoK PC wont load? I was able to get on it twice 5 months and I've never been able to get back on since

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </rokpc:1374685281210335244>

[thorn cedar]

oh okay

[true sorrel]

that might be a you specific issue

you cant launch rok from taskbar that might be an issue

[coarse shale]

Been launching from a shortcut. But it'll just load to 16% and stop responding

[true sorrel]

launch from windows search

try that

in administrator if that doesnt work

if not just go to the bugs channel

[spark elk]

Yeah good mats

[ocean coral]

Next reset is Christmas event and that includes 7k gems right?

[rose narwhal]

Yuh

Or whatever format we may get

But I think this one is 7K

[spark elk]

Should be 7k

Unless they do some Elysian treasures crap

[pearl monolith]

Which dragon peice set should I aim for? The bow main hand?

I’m planning to use this gear for QSH

[pine flax]

Should I use universals for training if my march isn’t 300k yet? Im roughly 10 days short, lost kingdom opens in a few days

[hazy whale]

no create card does not work for me i did ensure i'm logged in to the site aswell

[pearl monolith]

I, save universals for research or healing speed ups when healing speed ups run out

[pine flax]

Bro ive been saving for like a month now when do i even use them 🤣

Every time theres a 20 gh event its taken by a whale pushing t5

Or soneone gemming troopd with like 3 million gems

[pearl monolith]

I’m confused, you have 59 training days and you don’t have enough for 300k?

For your first march?

[pine flax]

Yes

I need 10 more universals for it

[finite steppe]

Call of ancients pack good value ?

[pine flax]

Its all relative tbh

Look up the bundle and see if it has what you need, there are sites that have all the relevant info

[abstract hazel]

Best march KVK 1 for F2P

Please

[spark elk]

Sun aethel

[mighty viper]

Sun/Aeth

[abstract hazel]

Thx boy

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[abstract hazel]

Do you have the list of every building needed for each level ?

[fringe turret]

Is gem for material value higher in Esmeralda's than Egg event?

[graceful panther]

Do you know when Zephyra 3985 Opens , please ?

[mighty viper]

Kingdoms open at random

[austere nest]

anyone know how far i can migrate? like if i create new character in 3985 what are the limit kd i can migrate back

[spark elk]

10 days back

[mighty viper]

10 days in age difference (in either direction)

[austere nest]

oooo

[long wyvern]

Commander swap/reset confirmed ?

[quasi jay]

what's a good commander in early aside from sun

i mean civilization

i don't want china anymore 😂

[terse mason]

There's really no better option unless you're like a whale

Whales like to switch to korea for research and t5 push

And once you hit ch25 go france

[quasi jay]

i want china but i don't want sun tzu anymore 😂

[terse mason]

Ah

Well

There's either sun/aethel or baibars/sun

Or you're a goated player who can expt ysg before kvk 2

[austere drum]

#1306509587825823744

commander reset is confirmed

[drowsy trellis]

Pendant better for qsh than crit horn?

[unborn helm]

Depends on pair but generally not

[drowsy trellis]

Qsh/zl both expertised if it matters

[rain ravine]

Even if you switch civilisation the starting commander you get from events will be the same

[rose narwhal]

Artemisa is a very important and needed detail ❤️‍🩹

[vast edge]

When will zenith come?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </zenith:1374685240726917193>

[lunar musk]

25 dec

[vast edge]

Thankss

[small pier]

Is this cocao pod guy worh using the gold star on?

[lunar musk]

uh no

[small pier]

But there's only 2 legendary commander rn I'm very new

[lunar musk]

exactly, no

[fringe turret]

Is QSH / Zhuge a much better march than QSH / YSG? Is it worth swapping in January for him?

[lunar musk]

youre gonna have no use out of caocao prob

[lunar musk]

nah

not a big improvement

keep qsh/ysg

[small pier]

But can't i just reset them or it won't give me stars back?

[lunar musk]

idk how all that works early game, they revamped early game since i played and ik theres a reset but idk what it does

but again u have 0 use for caocao unless ur a whale

[small pier]

💔

[fringe turret]

thanks

[small pier]

I tried the reset button if I'm not wrong
It gave me back exp from a blue rarity commander i don't remember if it also gives back the stars

Lemme check

Mhm it did give the stars back i think

The blue rarity commander got back to 1 star

From 2 star

I THINK

Omg I'm getting unsure

Bruh i could've just checked it like this

So they do give stars back

Even the statue thingy too

And i can do it once a day on a commander?

So it wouldn't hurt if i invest in cao cao early game right?

I could just reset him later RIGHT???

[somber skiff]

Nobody knows if this event will appear for you when you enter SoC. It's different to the swap event

[small pier]

Wait this reset thing is an event? NOT PERMANENT???? man😔

[rose narwhal]

The event is limited to 1 week only

On day 7 poof

Bye bye

[small pier]

So i shouldn't invest in caocao cuz if it's gone it'll bite me in the as💔

Okay

Got it😔

[rose narwhal]

Pretty much correct

[uncut dagger]

is it worth it to spend gems to buy speedups on the weekly vip store?

[lunar musk]

Depends

but only if you can do gear events vip shop mats etc. first

[uncut dagger]

im talking about the 8h ones @lunar musk

[lunar musk]

24 hour ones are higher prio

if you dont have the 24 hour ones unlocked as an option you definitely have more important stuff to buy from vip shop

if youre not even vip16 speedups from shop are far from your priorty list

[uncut dagger]

where do i get speedups with gems then?

[lunar musk]

nowhere

you dont

highest priority is vip/mats/gear

[uncut dagger]

alright then thanks

[hard karma]

If I migrate during 7k event do I loose progress

And/or is their acctually going to be a Christmas 7k event

[proven path]

Only Uni sculptures will go to your inventory? Not the actual heads ?

[rose narwhal]

Apparently if u invest 100 mge heads and 590 universals ones u get the 100 and the 590 back separately from what I've seen on a ss of vip support

[proven path]

[ripe chasm]

For real fuck!! I wanted to get rid of Flav 😂

[crystal sandal]

The Limit to migrate to a imperium kingdom is maximum 10M (season 0-1) does that change in season 2 ?

can i as a 30M player migrate to an imperium kingdom in season 2-3?

[small pier]

Do i save the golden keys?

[hard karma]

If I migrate during 7k event do I loose progress And/or is their acctually going to be a Christmas 7k event

[true sorrel]

I’m in k3 rn should I just invest in gg or something since we get a reset

Or too risky

[cunning oar]

i would wait more 'info' before relying on reset

[true sorrel]

You think Lilith would clarify further 😂

Since when

They said soc I’ve seen a few people say kvk3 offseason is included

[limber scroll]

do you have achilles and arthur?

[cunning oar]

they will before release

i just said that

we dont even known the cost, could be a arm and a leg

[true sorrel]

Why would I reset Achilles.

Since we get a reset I could risk investing in anything

[limber scroll]

I’m asking you if you have them, not to reset them lol

[true sorrel]

Read the original question then I’m not asking for investment help

[cunning oar]

this is a yes or no?

[limber scroll]

Dude, I’m literally asking you a question

[true sorrel]

I have Arthur exp if I had Achilles I would’ve exp by now

No achilles

[limber scroll]

Thank you, lol
My point was to just go for 1 combo march, and 2 if you wanna run 5 marches on the field
Regardless of resetting and what not

You don’t have to take my word for it but I would like to always ask before I give an answer

[true sorrel]

I asked if swap still applied to me that was the question

I don’t need further advice

But thanks

[crystal sandal]

Are we going to get chrismas event with city themes

Saint Halo ?

[vast ruin]

When it says the lost kingdom closing soon and we have 7 hrs left, if we are still here will it teleport us back home instantly?

[limber scroll]

48 hours after the end rewards are distributed is when you tp to home kingdom automatically

And get troops back

[vast ruin]

Oh okay

[small pier]

My alliance told me to use gems for vip rank(level 10)
Is it worth it?

[limber scroll]

At vip level 10, you start getting gold head from the daily logins, which is very important

However I would recommend using your gems during “More Than Gems” Event

To get speedups and gold heads as rewards for spending gems extra value)

[small pier]

OHHHH THAT'S WHY

[small pier]

Mhm I'll wait

Thanks

[limber scroll]

You’re welcome my friend

[crystal sandal]

How to obtain Saint Halo City Skin?

[limber scroll]

I believe this is an exclusive city skin for Zenith of Power

[earnest sable]

Is it worth fighting with siege in kvk 2?

[somber skiff]

It is likely to be available during the zenith event in March/April 2026

[hard karma]

If I migrate during 7k event do I loose progress And/or is their acctually going to be a Christmas 7k event

[limber scroll]

There is definitely a 7k gem event since it was announced in the patch notes

As for progress - in most cases universal events do not reset your progress but I would check with in-game support yo verify that and be safe

[worthy karma]

I’m about to enter kvk 1, when building in kvk, does the flag count continue from home kd or does it start from zero in kvk map?

[mighty viper]

It starts from zero

[true sorrel]

Do you know if lilith groups kvk3 and soc together not sure if I get a swap or not

in the middle of a k3

rn

[mighty viper]

?

[true sorrel]

commander reset

does k3 get a swap or nah

I was told yesterday in gen we do

[mighty viper]

How are we supposed to know?

[true sorrel]

idk

probably from the previous swap

maybe commander reset works the same

[mighty viper]

They are completely separate things

[true sorrel]

are there any events lilith said would be in soc that happened in k3 if you know

if not thats tuff

[mighty viper]

That’s too overly broad to make a statement on

[true sorrel]

its not broad if you take example from previous mails

[mighty viper]

KVK3 players shouldn’t need a reset

[cunning oar]

we dont have many events who state, so hard to be sure

[true sorrel]

idk there are alots of people here still investing in oudated ass commanders

for some reason

[cunning oar]

i think are separated tho

[true sorrel]

alr thx

[mild sapphire]

Anyone know when is the event that we can get discounted cost for training, research and building cost?

[mighty viper]

Around the start of Pre-KVK

[mild sapphire]

Wait, that event is kvk related? I thought it was like once per two month or something

[sonic sigil]

this is my best set

[terse mason]

Holy bad

[sonic sigil]

aight

[mighty viper]

[mighty viper]

This attitude is why people won’t ask for help

[terse mason]

[sonic sigil]

damn

[austere nest]

[shy citrus]

Excuse me

What i have to do to get almost full rewards in kvk 1? And strong kd better?

[true sorrel]

literally just being in top alliance and strong kd IF you can make it top alliance

just have to hit DKP goals

[whole bobcat]

Can a king run multiple kingdom buffs at the same time?

[austere nest]

anyone in 3978??

[mighty viper]

See #1250017171145359381

[mighty viper]

No

[austere nest]

nobody post

[mighty viper]

🤷‍♂️

[paper patrol]

i want to know how many commander i can reset

[mighty viper]

We don’t know

[hazy haven]

What marches should I be running for open feild/lost canyon?

[mighty viper]

See the pinned commander spreadsheet

[hazy haven]

Thank you. Where is it?

[mighty viper]

In the pinned messages for this channel

[hazy haven]

Sent by @mental walrus ?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[austere nest]

shinny ah comms

[frosty swallow]

@sour raft

[mighty viper]

Take it to #☕〡general

[sour raft]

[mental walrus]

[vast ruin]

Athel and Richard

[unborn helm]

Zman is a little nerd behind a little screen

[mighty viper]

Nerdy and proud

Now please take random chatter to #☕〡general

[kindred kelp]

Is Arthur better than Gam Gamchan

In swap event

[fluid obsidian]

Hi Guys,
I’m a new player looking for an active alliances and someone who can explain me what alliances and kvk are

[mental walrus]

No

[cold bear]

Hey does anyone know when is Zenith? It was said to be on the 25th but it doesn’t show on the schedules and calendars in the game?

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </zenith:1374685240726917193>

[crisp arrow]

It's still expected 25th-26th, lets just wait 🤷🏼‍♀️ if you plan pushing you can start reserves regardless of whether it's a day sooner or later

[limber scroll]

Arthur is an AoE commander and has more impact on the field- GG is more tanky but deals less damage

You should consider Arthur over GG for 1 combo march with Achilles

[mental walrus]

Yes* misread question

[rancid rivet]

Could you guys give me advice on how to improve the équipement? I often get beat up in open field and figure it might be bad esuipement but I can’t figure out how to improve, because any that I can forge has its ups and downs compared to this

[limber scroll]

Slowly transitioning to cavalry epic equipment until you start building your legendary equipment.

Focus on pieces that give you health and defense over attack.

These blue and epic equipment will serve a temporary purpose for now until you start crafting end-game equipment

This is best in slot “non-legendary”

[rancid rivet]

Ok thanks! Do you know which équipement I should try replacing first? Cuz the axe gives me 8% attack 2 of the blue are windswept so them together gives a bonus 2% attack and the green gives me 5.5% attack and 1.5% health

So like it’s kinda hard to choose which is less good

[peak valve]

pants

[limber scroll]

In order, Legs > Weapon > Chest > Shoes

[rancid rivet]

Ok tysm!

[limber scroll]

You’re most welcome

[cold bear]

It doesn’t show on the event calendar in ROK tho. Are you sure?

[crisp arrow]

#📱〡official․media message
Second 30

Zenith of power will be running from december 25th until december 28th it says

So i am relying on their own information

[covert marten]

How do you off Locking on to Building?

[analog anvil]

Why Polish Language don't exist?

[mental walrus]

#1345010881490059314

[crisp arrow]

It can be because there is no polish speaking mod that could monitor the chat, but suggestions doesn't hurt

[humble quiver]

Where’s melon market event?

[stiff fractal]

Will someone message me when a new server opens

[rose narwhal]

25th should come w zenith most likely

[pearl monolith]

when I do a commander swap from 5521 to another commander, does the other commander end up as a 5521 commander as well?

[mighty viper]

No it ends up as whatever skill the second commander has

[white tapir]

Mtg is likely this weekend right? Just wondering whether to wait to spend the 7k gems

[mighty viper]

They literally just swap their levels and skills

[mighty viper]

See this event calendar https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1452543798960717875

[pearl monolith]

so the tickets are just cheaper to swap? like it's better to swap a 5511 commander than swapping a 5411 commander?

[mighty viper]

Will probably be the first weekend of January

[mighty viper]

Cheaper yes, better is debatable

[pearl monolith]

sorry could you elaborate on the better is debatable part, what do you mean?

[mighty viper]

To get the skills higher one would typically have to spend the GH needed to upgrade the skills

[pearl monolith]

i want to be effecient as much as possible during the commander swap lol

[mighty viper]

Just buy the $50 bundle and you’ll get two full swaps

That’s how to be efficient

[pearl monolith]

Interesting answer

Thanks

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[pearl monolith]

I think the youtube videos will provide better info, thanks though

[mighty viper]

Yeah probably, you also aren’t giving much info for us to work with

[whole shore]

Returning player from 3+ years ago, restarting entirely (F2P). Nowadays (I don't know how much has changed), how many farms would be recommended for a F2P account aiming to be semi-competitive/casual?

[mighty viper]

As many as you can reasonably manage

[whole shore]

Alright, maybe 4 then, cool cool

[mighty viper]

You’ll probably want more, but if that’s what you think you can manage then you’ll probably be ok

[rose narwhal]

realistically he will be fine w 4 unless he's some next level tryhard tbf

[mighty viper]

All F2Ps that are semi-competitive are try hards tbh

[whole shore]

I'm not into trying to be that kinda player, in uni and I don't want to spend hours covering farms on a daily basis. Just wanna be casual/ish and be able to help others eventually

[rose narwhal]

u will have to spend certain amounts of time early on

js to upgrade them

later on its just logging in

[mighty viper]

ROK is honestly kinda an ani-casual game tbh

[spark elk]

Am I tripping or isn't Arthur 3 target

[rose narwhal]

once your account is built its short bursts of time u gonna have to spend 'grinding'

[whole shore]

I don't mind the early initial phase of grinding stuff out. But I'll try to keep it more on the low with the number of farms so it won't take me as long as people planning on 20 farms

[rose narwhal]

mostly fighting but

[rose narwhal]

u said u were gonbna be f2p yh?

[whole shore]

Yep

[rose narwhal]

hmmm fairs

tbh it looks like autopeacekeeping can send a big part of the grinding part out the window

so if u were to buy it u would be saving time but i understand spending isnt always suitable

[limber scroll]

You're not tripping, it is 3 target lmao

[mighty viper]

Basically in this game one either invests time or money. Yes the time needed to maintain an account does decrease over time, but early on you should be expecting to play the game a good 5+ hours a day

[limber scroll]

I was thinking of Achilles, my bad

[whole shore]

Hmm, I'm fine with it, it's an commitment which gets less demanding over time like you said.

I just hope I do it right when making those farms lol

[mighty viper]

Yeah like a year in it really starts tapering off, but the first few months are very grindy

[whole shore]

Yeahhh, I remember playing for 6 months on my old account, no farms ever made since I didn't even know people did it lol

Then my guild asked me to make some, at least this way they can all start at the same time relatively

[rose narwhal]

tbh if he's in a good alliance after kvk 1 it starts lowering at that point

sure he needs to keep his spot n what not but if hes in a GOOD kingdom which we hope itll start being less n less time needed past kvk 1 if his KD survives

[whole shore]

I will say, I forgot most things so all I know about is China is a good starting Civ, make the first farm in the same kingdom, then transfer the rest eventually.

[mighty viper]

Basically, yes

[whole shore]

Now I just gotta freshen up with the pins on this server, one thing I'm unsure of though, what are the big changes made in this game since 3 years ago? If there have been any

[mighty viper]

Jumpers no longer exist, the devs have added several new events that have very little known about them

[rose narwhal]

and cross migration from soc to kvk 2 doesnt exist either

[regal topaz]

If I am using SunTZU+Aethel, I should give infantry% gear to suntzu, what about aethel, should I do the same?

[limber scroll]

Secondary commanders do not require equipment or armaments to be put on

[frosty swallow]

[limber scroll]

Equipment applies on primary commander only

Only skills will take effect from secondary commander - and later on, museum buffs when you unlock that in kvk 3

[regal topaz]

Why people recommend using aethel + sun tzu?

[limber scroll]

2 AoE commanders with high damage compared to other available commanders in the early stage of the game

Sun Tzu also increases skill damage dealt which makes the AoE damage from both commanders even better

[orchid vector]

Anyone had lohar skill order? For the arms training 👀

[covert marten]

What’s the best archer garrison

[faint grove]

Do you have to be online for auto-peacekeeping to work?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[cunning sluice]

??

[spark elk]

pins

[errant nest]

Anyone know how to change the alliance welcome message?

[dapper ivy]

Go on alliance, settings then like at the top left I believe there is a button

Touch it and you can modify the welcome message

[dapper ivy]

They updated it?

[errant nest]

I dunno

[dapper ivy]

Sheesh lemme try brb

@errant nest

Maybe kd too young idk

[covert marten]

How much more speedup before I can attempt zenith?

[rose narwhal]

does any1 have the minimal points/power or what not for reward for every type of 20 GH event?

[mighty viper]

Depends entirely on your bracket and how much those around you can expend

[rose narwhal]

if we wanna be sure thats around 40M pow for the skin so

[green hornet]

how does vengeance work??

[warm herald]

When changing kingdoms, do you go back to 0 power or do you keep your current power?

[rose narwhal]

You keep your current power

Only thing u lose is Lucerne and the resources over your storage cap

[warm herald]

Ok

[rose narwhal]

U put 5 commanders against 5 others and y watch em fight, then u get afk rewards based on God knows what and at level 200 u unlock expedition

Other than that, more books more gold keys sometimes more epic heads sometimes none

[green hornet]

yeah but why is it saying my lvl 30 sarka is better than my lvl 35 lohar

and my 41 baibars

[mighty viper]

We don’t know

[green hornet]

oh alr

[mighty viper]

The algorithms that go into such things are completely unknown to the public

[rose narwhal]

It might be her skills since it's taken into account as well but as zman says it's unknown

[mighty viper]

Yeah if I had an educated guess I’d say it’s something to do with skills, but we can’t say definitively

[green hornet]

maybe ur right actually

sarka 5555 baibars 5533

[rose narwhal]

I would suppose rarity also matters since it's easier to get heads for them but that's going too deep into it which I won't do cause well, there's no base

[rose narwhal]

Then it's likely that, the more u upgrade the skills the more power u get, and the higher your skills the higher vengeance power u get so the gap may just be that

[green hornet]

alr thanks

[rose narwhal]

Im convinced rarity has something to see but I can't flipping prove it

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[green hornet]

prob because i have 5555 blues and greens but they dont have more power than my 5544 epics

[rose narwhal]

I mean u can check in the skills of both which one has the higher vengeance power no?

[green hornet]

wdym

ohh yes u can

didnt even know

[rose narwhal]

Which one has the higher stats?

[green hornet]

bro my sarka has more than my mina

my baibars and sun tzu

wth

[rose narwhal]

🤣🤣

[green hornet]

is it her unit capacity or sum 😂

[rose narwhal]

The skill power difference was huuuuge I'm telling ya

At some point it started going over 20K per small upgrade for me

[green hornet]

shii

damnn

[rose narwhal]

Its looking like it's got to see with the skills but I still can't give an ultimatum so take it with a grain of salt regardless please

[green hornet]

yeah def

thanks

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[green hornet]

if theres an alliance mobilization and my alliance signs me up for it

and i go to another alliance

which alliances rewards

will i get

[rose narwhal]

U have to come back and do quests on it and claim the rewards of that alliance

So for the rewards you'd need to go back if you're signed up in another alliance

[green hornet]

how many quests?

[green hornet]

not signed up tho

just like in it

[rose narwhal]

I wouldn't be able to tell you, they recently revamped the whole design of AM, initially u could do 11 quests total, now u can do way more, tho idk if this new mode applies to pre soc

[rose narwhal]

Now I'm lost

[green hornet]

like my old alliance signed me up for it

then i left mid way

to go to another alliance

that already started

their own am

without me

[rose narwhal]

Then, when u go back to your first alliance, u will be able to claim them regards

Rewards

[green hornet]

alr

[rancid rivet]

What are the things I should buy first in the fisherman’s market

[limber scroll]

Legendary Armament Chests > Legendary Material Chests

[rancid rivet]

There aren’t these stuff in the market

[limber scroll]

Could you please share a screenshot of your market?

[dull valve]

Anyone know what's the newest kingdom?

[spark elk]

3985

[dull valve]

Thank youuu

[spark elk]

You're Welcome

[pearl monolith]

Which dragon breath set peice I should go for first? This is what I have for now, planning to use this on qsh

[lone matrix]

Anyone has the skills of arms training event picture?

[limber scroll]

• If you want to go for full DB set: Chest > Gloves > Helmet > Legs > Weapon > Shoes
• If you want to go for KvK Helmet & Weapon + 2 leadership set + 2 DB Set pieces then do it in this order: DB Chest > Leadership Legs > Leadership Shoes > DB Gloves > KvK Weapon > KvK Helmet

[mighty viper]

Check pins

[pearl monolith]

Thanks where do you get this kvk equipment you mentioned?

[limber scroll]

This will be available in end game - once your kingdom enters SoC (Season of Conquest)

[limber scroll]

You can't go wrong with speedups for your account in case you don't have a maxed account yet. on a lesser priority, gold and crystal keys

[rancid rivet]

Got it thanks

[tranquil pier]

How come my march will march 300m away for a lvl21 barb but I set the auto peacekeeping to attack all barbs between 1 and 21?

It ignores all other barbs and only attacks level 21s

[digital socket]

how big is a single march usually?

[digital socket]

isn't autopeacekeeping an exploit, or is that a feature of the game

[grim storm]

Anyone got that arms training skill activation order pic ?

[mighty viper]

It’s a part of the gem supply bundle

[digital socket]

ohhh ok

btw

im cooking up a better version of the forest suggestion

with actual formulas

[mighty viper]

Ok, this really isn’t a place for that conversation though

[digital socket]

k

[digital socket]

what's the max rally size?

[mighty viper]

Based on?

[digital socket]

wdym

just

absolute maximum

btw

[mighty viper]

I can’t recall, because that includes crystal tech and some math

[digital socket]

if you were to punish a march's movement that's travelling through some terrain based on their size, what percentage debuff would you cap it out at?

(that's a question)

right now i have it at 66000

[digital socket]

ok what's the average rally size

ykw

screw it

wait

[mighty viper]

There’s not enough stable data to formulate an average

[digital socket]

like, what do you see normally

[mighty viper]

Define “normally”

[pine flax]

its not worth buying fish bait right? for the event

[digital socket]

in your rok playing experience

in wars

eetc

[mighty viper]

That still doesn’t really give me a way to answer lol

[digital socket]

jghghjgjhgiuyiu

uh

just

what is "normal" to you

for example

[mighty viper]

How big of a spender? Are we talking in KVK or in home kingdom?

[digital socket]

rallying 20k during a city raid/burn is suicidal

but rallying 30m is impossible

we're talking about KvK

[digital socket]

the average range, f2p to mid-spender (dolphins)

[mighty viper]

F2P use the base level 25 cap with little to no upgrades in rally cap

[digital socket]

well like

rally leaders

mid-spender to kraken

anywhere in the middle too

[mighty viper]

[mighty viper]

That’s still pretty vague tbh

[digital socket]

just rally leaders

gng

[mighty viper]

Why do you need to know?

What will knowing this number help you achieve?

[digital socket]

creating a balanced formula for the decrease in speed when a rally is marching through a forest

for my forest suggestion

[mighty viper]

I can tell you right now that terrain like forests making thins slower will likely never get added to the game

If they do it will be one specific KVK story and everyone will probably avoid it

[digital socket]

it's a formula, it only punishes HEAVY HEAVY marches

and also it's not just a handicap

i made it do cool stuff too

or like

suggested it to do cool stuf

[mighty viper]

In the original it punishes everyone and decreases visibility… this would make ball fighting (a key game mechanic) near impossible to do

[digital socket]

wdym ball fighting

what is that

explain

i can't understand SoC

i speak KvK2

[mighty viper]

The main way you fight in a KVK

[digital socket]

uh

is it

when like

you uh

wave attack

?

[mighty viper]

You’re in KVK2 and don’t understand a ball fight?

[green hornet]

mina baibars both expertised kvk1 or mina cao cao both expertised kvk1

[mighty viper]

When a group of marches form a tight formation and move as a unit against their opponents

[mighty viper]

Mina Bai

[digital socket]

that's just called a charge

💀

[green hornet]

hahaha Zman dont fall for the ragebait

[digital socket]

it's not ragebait...

😭

[mighty viper]

No, you form a tight circular pattern or a “ball” then you draw your opponents into the ball

[digital socket]

so a surround?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[digital socket]

that's called an encirclement 💀

not "ball fighting"

and also

[mighty viper]

Often two balls will fight one another

Ball fighting

[green hornet]

u mean stacked on eachother?

the marches

[digital socket]

it's physically impossible for a ball to effectively attack a forest encampment either way

it introduces a new style of fighting without making old ones irreleveant

you'll still need to ball fight in open-field

[digital socket]

ye i got explaine

explained to*

uhhh

either it's tha tthe barbarian levels are actually just searching for 2 different levels

or it's a range and the feature is broken

prolly a range

go to #🐞〡bugs